#[America Server] Discussions
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Yeah, there's definitely something fishy about this whole situation! 
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Can I ask if anyone has any thoughts on a Neuvillette card deck??
Like building a strong deck around him??
Can I also ask if someone can help me build a meta deck with the magic engine?? We talked a little last time but I know we have new cards now
i think ppl have been pairing him with charlotte/layla for stall freeze, or benett for a combo-like deck
magic engine hasnt changed much
but ppl mostly prefer to use hypermagic with jeht now, since the gilded nerf makes aggro less viable
neuvillette magic? i gotchu
Interesting
Cn you tell me why Bennett and az??
I’m also really not familiar with using jeht
And I’m still new to magic engine …
I haven’t used a magic deck with anyone before…. So I’m just not sure exactly how to use it
I ideally want the best deck for Neuv… I don’t know if he’s “meta” in terms of deck…
neuv is pree good
I’m not opposed to using him in a freeze / staff deck either, but I’m also not sure who to use him with
too hard to useso i gave up on playing
you can do charlotte/layla
His deck to get him was with baizhu and Yae Miko which didn’t feel like a bad combo honestly
I just feel like if I stand any chance of doing decently next season I need to play a meta deck…. I tend to prefer making decks around cards and characters I like but
Idk.
Neuv might still be too new to know if he’s good
ya need to wait a bit more meta to settle down
Idk.
I asked about building a meta deck at the end of last patch and I was kinda told to wait until the new patch
Since we were getting new cards
I waited, but i don’t know if I waited long enough 
well we are only a week into this patch
tournaments are starting but not too many yet
maybe give another week
I just want a deck now so I can start practicing with it and getting good at it
I’m mostly familiar with aggro decks… never played Magic engine or jeht.
At this point I worry I’m too far behind.
I just want to do well 
unfortunately meta now just consists of magic/jeht/stall, thats probably just what it will be like for this patch
aggro decks can use magic but gilded got nerfed, so its more difficult to play now
But if we don’t know yet or no one has any ideas I’ll just wait I guess
you can probably start with magic for practice to understand what the cards do and how to combo them together
I literally said I don’t know how to though
I’m a baby, I don’t know what to play it with
i was looking for a deck for you. something like mona/signora/tm deck here
you should familiarize yourself with the action cards first. the idea is to generate dice by 1) discounting gilded cost using yayoi when multiple characters have other cheap equips on like sand king/khva, 2) overriding artifact and get dice back with boar princess, 3) use lyresong to unequip an arti then equip gilded to get +1 dice
Only deck I made was Neuv - seahorse - baizhu but 
Idk
I’ll play around with a deck and just wait and see I guess
neuv and seahorse sounds like a not bad combo for jeht engine
maybe not baizhu as third though. the dmg is lacking
if you wanna learn about hypermagic, theres a great doc here https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1TUgEGQ7rW6Ytz9rfDeCer20bnBN4bFL_nlrsEmxaYqw/edit#slide=id.gc6fa3c898_0_0
I don’t know who else would be the 3rd though
hmm cryo will help you enable freeze. maybe signora?
Meropide is really redundant
It only destroys 1card per round at max
Other permanent supports might be worth more value
Meropide is op asf
I do think two meropide are redundant tho
furfur dropping the hottest takes
Meropide in stall decks are annoying in my experience
I can't even use a pizza without burning a card
Fresh out of the oven 
Meropide so op please make cost 2 dice
It’s good against all decks. And it’s always guaranteed to trade good value against your opponent. Especially in the meta where the space for decklist will be tight.
If you can get your opponent to waste one card its already worth. If you can get them to waste two, its good trade. Three, and you are very advantaged.
Magic decks end games by r3; if they hadn’t, they’re most likely losing already
And magic has enough to brute force through 2 cards
Judgement is much more efficient for the same dice cost
It may see play in long games, but it’s stall vs stall at that point, and stall is winning by gaining long-term advantage
But with tenshukaku, vanarana, extra permanent ramp I am sure you’ll get more advantage
If you have judgement + meropide you are asking them to waste 4 cards.
Opponent wasting four cards and it becomes likely you will survive r2/r3
It’s a viable card but you can do without it just fine
With four cards against hyper magic (i know you said magic but i think you were trying to say hypermagic) it means sacrificing two litm, either two lyresong or boar
My guess is Can’t sacrifice food idt; mmr too valuable and lotus eats away at dice.
Every hypermagic is magic, but not every magic is hypermagic
Yee
And with 1-2 burned cards you’re giving them, most likely, one action fewer
Which can be done with other options
there's more benefit than cost to putting 1x meropide in a stall deck
your matchup against hypermagic is still bad, but less bad because it means if they don't draw enough event cards to burn (and they're not actually running many - lyresong, boar princess, sunyata, and their arcane are pretty much it) it can really stifle their turn
Judgement is enough imo, and it’s been used for this purpose for quite some time
I don’t like that meropide is taking extra support space (which for stall is tight now), and putting just one copy will not give you the card consistently in time, since draw has been spread out after Gouba nerf and people turning away from using wharf
judgment is much more effective as an offensive card to prevent your opponent from fighting back
than as a defensive card to prevent them from sweeping you
I think the idea that one copy of a card isn't consistent enough so you shouldn't run any is the wrong mindset. In the end having that one copy and knowing when you need to dig for it a bit to improve a matchup is better than not having it. It mostly depends on what card you're replacing for fortress
fortress is good agant Yelan OTK
And superbird
but hyper I think can always power through it anyway
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it definitely is a card that is going to 'feel' better than it actually is, because the times it's good are going to be when ppl draw it R1
and you won't see it usually if it was bad
That’s 3 cards burned in one round, consistently on hand, and always ready
How’s that different from meropide
I mean
Besides all context and purely by its effects
the effect is decent enough
it's prob better if you have freeze, since LITM is prob the big thing it can get in the way of
because in a stall deck you have to time judgment perfectly, while you can set meropide early and have it apply every round
So your point is judgement is worse coz you have to think to use it..? That’s an odd take idk
Wouldn’t have tcg if it wasn’t about thinking what and when you’re using
no, my point is judgement is limited to a single round and is hard to use
in fact meropide is much stronger than tenshukaku
meropide refreshes every round (assuming you fill the conditions, which a stall deck is able to do) and is good over the long term
Well against magic there’s little to no time to use tenshu that I agree with
it also performs better against stall
imagine your opponent has to burn a card every round to use food card
as a longrange deck, ideally you have both meropide and judgment
Has it been popular in cn
but judgment being restricted to only one turn is a significant weakness
better against combo decks where you know which turn they're popping off, yes, but against other archetypes it's much more limited and burning one card every round is important
every stall deck uses it
Hmm I see
I think at least 1 fortress makes sense in stall
I really disliked the effect of double meropide not stacking on each other
Ig I could revisit one copy next time I try stall again 
You never don’t want to see it and even just trading dice 1 for 1 is good
Which is basically what the first fortress proc does
But that cards have different value depending on the matchup is nothing new
You can’t get ready for absolutely everything Anw
Even for one card?
it's even then - 1 dice 1 card for 1 dice 1 card (although you do have to eat up a support slot)
I wouldn't call that good though
That is good
but the other thing is you don't always "see" the effect it has on the other side. Even if they don't trigger the effect
you might have stopped a play
they don't have to actually play into it for it to have done somehting
which is why it's hard to evaluate
If I could trade all my dice with opponent’s dice in stall I’d be happy
at least just by theorycrafting
And it’s not like meropide is a negative investment
It’s permanently sitting there getting value
Meropide is too good; its prob gonna get nerfed.
One of the main arguments I see against meropide is that games end on r3
But this is a pretty fake argument
Because if the game ends on r3 it means you lost
All your winning games should go r5 or longer
And here meropide def comes up
honestly I think it's always useless talking about individual cards like this. It's better to frame it as what you are taking out for fortress, or what would be better than fortress, against the matchups you're targeting
I think fortress is just good
I would definitely agree with liliba that meropide is more valuable than tenshu kaku
Hmm to me the argument is “does meropide gain value if you get it r3 or later” considering you’re running just one copy
If you were to compare it to something I feel like it’d be with tenshu
one copy is infinitely more than 0 copies 
Well yeah
it's pretty pointless talking about any card and saying what if you don't draw it
Absolutely
but if you're not running 2 copies
it means it's not good enough to ensure you get one on R1
or too situational to run 2 of
that and they don't stack
so you don't reaaaally want to draw 2
I still think the card is just fine
Nerfing it would make it bad
Like 2cost or one card per 5
But maybe there’re arguments against that too idk
A lot of cards are useless r3
drawing 2 and having a dead card, prob worse than sometimes not drawing it
Meropide isn’t the only card in the game that doesn’t provide value the round it’s played
I mean I think it's just fine too
but I don't play stall that much
I should practice stall
Yeah coz magic is too popular and it’s too hard for stall
Unless cn is ahead again not sure 
Meropide is actually quite fast acting compared to other cards
I think it pays itself off immediately the round afterwards
against hyper I don't think fortress will do all that much. Maybe it turns your matchup from like 10% to 15%
Which is def not true for the other permanent value cards in stall
Even something like helm
but unless there's another card that would improve that matchup more, then it doesn't matter how small the gain is
Yea that’s fair
I think fortress is pretty good against hyper
I think it's prob better than anything else you could be doing
instead of playing stall that plans to do damage
play do nothing stall
and out resource your opponent
this card is damn good at out resourcing your opponent


change cathedral to heal on play surely
Nor sure if im coping but willow in stall feels good
it needs a buff over MMR
Nah
Please give all the healing locations 3 usages
the buff is that it works with tubby engine
True

Id even agree with location healing three hp per round

we do already have a 2 dice location that adds 1 when played, for the record
grand narukami shrine
tubby nullifies the cost
yes when played, though
Locations
True ig
It’s one when played not two but ngl I am being too pedantic
Blep was just joking about gilded as a location
Not that it matters since tubby only discounts 2
Tubby sadge
you can give tubby the dun treatment but thats not a change i want to see
nerf dun pls
Maybe healing locations being 3 usages isn’t so bad
We already have that uhhh forgot the name, pizza+hash xd
But sangonomiya is def fine at 2
9 heal for 2 dice is too much
But it occupies your ramp space
3 usage doesnt change the fact that youll just die by spending 2 dice to place it down
Well yes but meropide too 
I mean
Don’t see why this can justify such high value
You can place totm for 3 tho 
Or are these
Jokes
realistically you cant really any more
And I’m being too serious
Yeah I still remember 12 rounds fighting against someone who has that card, and I had to burn multiple cards just to use healing food 😒 I still won the match but that Meropide card is definitely annoying for me 
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It’s another dayyy
Hey @pearl fern do you have any thoughts for a Neuvillette deck??
Or anyone who is here
well tubby is in the model of Xudong and dun is in the model of Chef mao
mm there's a few running around. Charlotte + Neuvi can be decent if you want to play around freeze
raiden-bennett-neuv is also a popular combo deck
Who else would be wit Charlotte and Neuv?
I was thinking of trying Neuv with seahorse but I’m not sure if that’s workable
it seems not real to buff Tubby bc the game has to change a lot to keep symmetry and Tubby is powerful value engine if u have location card per round to play
but u can include new card, like the dun in location version
You could play Seahorse in that last slot if you wanted - there's no great synergy but it's not bad. Otherwise you can add a 3rd Hydro since Charlotte can apply plenty of Cryo
If you wanted to focus mostly on Neuv then probably a Hydro for more healing. You can go barbara or even like kokomi?
it also lets you play all catalysts which is fun
btw my fav neuvi deck
yeah that list would be a fine starting point
I was definitely thinking Barbara too
Would you reccomend a deck similar to this??
I did want to try playing magic but I just want a good deck 🙈
wdym, neuvi hypermagic?
Idk lol
if you wanted to play rainbow last slot can probably be some electro of your choice
I just want a strong deck; ideally I’d like to do well next tournament
seahorse and neuv are fine together i think
If that’s not hypermagic that’s okay too
in hypermagic
well CTG should be skipping this patch
and things could shake up again next patch with how rampant Jeht is
Yeah… idk. It’s just hard to not want to get a head start
I’m tired of doing poorly
And I feel like a lot of the reason I struggle is because of the cards I use
rather than practicing any specific deck or changing decks too often, it's probably more efficient for improvement to focus on fundamentals
deck could be part of it - but for that you should just copy a deck and play with the cards a bit to understand how and why they work together and are good
I guess, idk.
My current deck isn’t “bad”
It just isn’t meta and doesn’t really excel in comps
Oh it’s dunrezard and jeht again
maybe u can try this if u wanna play neuvi and catch the jeht fashion
ya signora last slot 
Yeah, I just haven’t really used jeht and dune before
I’ve seen people play them but idk
well everyone starts somewhere
2 fruit 
fruit is the sauce
What order would you play this deck??
keep lumenstone, liben, fruit and other draw cards as ur mulligans. Try to fully ramp in r1 at seahorse, if cannot start nevui skill then swap to seahorse and ramp.
for r2 let neuvi soloplay, swap to signora skill if in danger
Oh I was asking about the freeze team
oh
I feel like the combo of freezing and healing would make it more of a stall deck
neuvi starts, attaching hydro app to opponents, then swap charlotte to freeze
ohh ok
???
Also I absolutely loathe Dori, but would she work in a Neuv team bc healing and electro
See I told you people were using multiple accounts in 1 region no one believed me
it's believable, if people are willing to use multiple region accounts then there are probably some cheesing in one region as well
So... the thing I said since S1 is happening... what a surprise
I didn't realize people did that since the start tbh.. I mean like doing about 90 matches in one account is extremely tiring already to me 
Add id and cam requirement when?
If there's cam requirement I will never participate in CTG ever again haha 
My device would not survive this 
i think ID req is pretty valid to keep the integrity of the competition environment
id check in the prelims would remove all of the casual playerbase and idt anyone would want that
id check in ss is reasonable tho
Like theres nothing from stopping
- wintrade
- alt
- backseat
- queue dodge
Maybe some security is good
Even in ss there is nothing stopping someone else from playing for you
At least some security is needed for ko and ss imo
Even if its not ctg prelims
Cuz like you wouldnt want to deter too much of the casual playerbase
But competitive prized events
Nah

why you repeating the convo we had already here
more security deters players from wanting to participate which is probably a far bigger concern than the very tiny amount of people who want to spend their life cheating in gitcg of all things
security should match the level of the tournament and i think most people would say cam is too much 
at the highest level we have LANs anyways
we're back at it again aren't we
if you want more people to join just increase the gem amount. Also encourage people to play the full 35 games. A reward for people that finish all their game. The people cheating are using alts so gems and welkin etc dont do anything for them.
adding more rewards doesn't reduce the number of cheaters, and since the number of players in knockouts/top32 are a fixed number and not something that scales with the number of participants it's not going to help with combatting against alts whatsoever
if you change the prize pool to gems i can ensure you there will be 0 cheaters
but then you also reduce the number of players in general
there are top players out there who would otherwise never play competitively if the prizes have no real-life value
and that would discourage more people from playing competitively at all because no benefits, why bother
it is a mini inside a gacha game why should it be so competitive. Should be a side way to earn more gems.
sorry if I'm going to be a little too harsh here, but
if you're actually building an esports scene this should not be the mindset
not to mention that from the get-go HoYo said that in-game PvP will not give out rewards, and I'm pretty sure they are sticking to that principle
there wont be an esports scene.
Okay Ive been playing a similar version of this deck and I really enjoy it 
they have literally never had the esports scene built in mind. If they did then there should be a ladder mode like in hearthstone that is part of the in-game ui
There isnt even a separate ui mode where people can do bans
Don't get me wrong they created a really good card game. It is easy to learn and get into. But until it is a separate client that is dedicated for it. It is just a joke to call it esports. The streams get less than 50 viewers. Hearthstone gets 20k viewers.
Im not an alt yet gems would do nothing for me 
Nahida is all i need and already got her
All welkin does is delay login by 3 seconds at this point

Getting primos are nice but what motivates me the most if I managed to get into top 16 are the chance to get $50 lol.. that is a lot of money for me personally
Would have much more viewers if it's streamed on the main genshin impact channel, I see there are still many players still don't know there's an official TCG tournament
You are right, sometimes I saw people on Twitter who don't know about various TCG tourmaments even though they would be interested with the tournaments
Though I feel like if TCG tournaments got put on the main channel, it would also get more hate comments from people who don't like TCG 
agreed
I mean, haters gonna hate, no?
(seriously can you guys see Genius Invokation as more than just a "minigame" for primos pls)
that asia invitational was on the offical genshin channel and it had those redeem codes for coins. I dont think it went over 100 viewers either
c6 r5?
Only promotion, not the stream
oh my bad then. I didn't watch the whole thing but I did remember seeing it on there.
I just search it, there's no tcg video/stream on genshin impact channel
it's on Twitch

now of course one could argue that "but- but there was a Primogems giveaway on the stream!"
and to that I say: hey if that's a good way to keep people's eyes peeled on the card game, so be it
Nah c0 r-1 (no weapon) shes just there for avatar decoration
the subject was about esports so I assumed we meant twitch numbers
go back to world lv 4 for archon quest
maybe they should add gacha system in char cards for constellation

they play side game bc of building and gacha chars so just apply the same thing in TCG surely it will work
Ew I will quit TCG if this happens
well thankfully it will never happen 
I’m just happy with my neuv deck lol
The only deck I’ve struggled against was another Neuv deck, but it was really really close
I’d honestly like some feedback on the deck if possible, but I’m still not sure how to send the full deck
just send the code
or the full deck img
both using the share deck button

Is it actual Nyahida? I don't ever recall him playing cope
That's Ting's specialty
probably? they played really smart so id assume its them

Surely it is a second nyahida alt in na 
I forgot to get my reward in Season 1, and the thread is unknown now,what can I do QAQ
you can use the Hotline
it should be Season 2
but yeah please contact the mod in #📨contact-qixing and use the Cat's Tail Gathering Inquiry line number
QAQ

On console I can’t really copy the code
I could try screenshots though??
Or
Hmm
Is there a way to get it from hoyo lab??
IGOT IT
@willow lion
you lack support cards that can infinitely generate value
Like what??
also i dont think its worth using yayoi when u have 4 artifact in total
like tenshukaku, sumeru city
chinju forest
Really?? I almost always end up going second though, it actually gets me a lot of dice
then the 2 charlotte talent cards
That actually helps a lot too though, normal attacks give healing
For someone like Neuv that helps a lot, especially with his weapon and talent attatched lol
Hmmm
Ok
the arcane
I mean it is helpful with freeze and someone like Neuv though
But if I didn’t use it, what other arcane card would I use?
guoba card
judgement
or maybe even the new arcane
and you need food, and tenacity in your deck
ultimately you have a stall deck, you have to play to out resource opponent and not try to play aggressive
tbh i wouldnt carry any of the talent your carrying if i were u
maybe keep the barbara card
and play food engine to try to survive earlier rounds too
Hmmm ok
What I’ve been doing a lot with the deck is hit hard with Neuv first, then spend several turns just between Barbara and Charlotte, and then go in and finish with Neuv
you cant out dmg other aggressive decks with neuvi alone
if you are trying to do that, dont play stall
this is a popular neuvi stall deck
I’m not trying to out damage them, persay
Idk
It’s hard to explain how my deck works
Cause it isn’t a full agressive deck
But it’s not 100% stall either
then youre in a cross spot of cant out damage the enemy and cant tank enough hits to live
hmmmm
Ok
I do need to practice against better players
If someone is open to playing me
i can play a few rn
Ok, just let me know
i have https://act.hoyolab.com/ys/event/bbs-lineup-qskp/index.html#/pc/publish bookmarked, it's a godsend - web tool for converting between decklists and deck codes, so you just rebuild the deck here
Oh ok!
@subtle ibex do you know how i can check my ctg points? someone told me you get 1 point if you complete 35 matches in a season. idk how many i have done for that.
curious cus i heard ctg points is how you get qualified to be invited to the super serious showdown
u cant really check if ur not above the leaderboard 😔
ig u can try to open a staff ticket to ask them to check in the backend
yea I wouldn't be able to answer this question atm
def make a ticket with us so that we can forward this to peeps with more info 
unfortunately the serious showdown is already in progress - if you're not here you probably did not get enough points
I was last seed. I did 35 games both season. So i think I had at least 2 points or 7 points cuz I might have been in the top 32 as well.
i wonder how they decided seed with same points
iirc if people tie on points then it's higher S2 records first
really? cuz my S2 record was shit
the 9 loose streak hit hard
went from global #2 to i dont even know where
OK so the tiebreaker order is
S2 points > S1+S2 prelims (total) > S2 prelims
if ties still exist then there will be BO1 tiebreakers
are we talking about the same thing cuz im talking about like the order they pick people for SS
snake format
That’s the tiebreaker for who ranks higher on the leaderboard in case of same score
thx salad
will make ticket
probably you had 6? because i know i have exactly 5
and i didnt get invitation
there's also interest check
interest check goes in order of the pt leaderboard so

oh god don't tell me I have to fight you again if I lose.
issok you swept me 2-0 
good luck to both of u
i gotta worry about myself too
but surely that is a weird format going against the same person twice. Where is my fight with Hong.
hong is gone
lose in loser bracket = poof
boutta be me too fr
surely winning 2 secures the card back right. I dont want to fly to LA to get nothing
you mean in showdown?
ya
showdown doesn't give u anything
other than a spot at PC
and we don't really know how many ppl at PC yet
inb4 pc has online phase
u can expect at least 16?
i can see it happening
did previous NA PC have online phase?
the lcq was online
but idk if that counts as part of the pc
just like how wild card is online
what does lcq stand for again
but no one is calling that pc
something something qualified
last chance quali
you win the showdown you are in pc. Going to LA is 12 plus 4. Surely the 16 are getting the card back right not the 8? If they make it top 8 still that really sucks for the top 16
only the 8 is getting the card
they make you fly there and then you dont get the card back 
a week?
they probably gonna do online phase to trim PC participant down to 8 before going LAN
a weekend right?
i guess if it's only 16 player then all going lan wouldn't be that bad for them but if it's like 32 in this PC then that's a big budget
this is hoyo were talking about
imagine feeding 32 people for a week i can't even feed myself
i'm living off my scholarships rn
and we talking about LA prices...
yea but hoyo is a couple billion 👀
hoyo does but does hoyo allocate that much for the tcg department
but this whole qualifers are we really not getting any reward. Last year we got some primogems and I think some people got money even before going to LAN
imagine u go to PC, they feed u a week and spends like a thousand dollars on u, and then u loose and walk home with 1000 primo💀

Honestly only care about the card back. Gimme that and it is enough
really?
i left tcg after the first two patch of it so i have no idea what happened in between
the school work got to me😔
me when the head = head.next
last year. Just being in top 32 got you 500 gems which is what I got
9oo6 the type of guy who wants the cardback more than a week of buffet
i mean i'd take the card back too since its really pretty
if you beat your group you got 700 and actually had to fill a tax form which was dumb cuz if they just made it 600 you didnt have to.
but damn i wouldn't mind a week of buffet either
I wont mind meet sir action slacks. I played him in dota a couple of times
i need to stop coping about buffets and focus on actually not losing my next bracket💀
what am i doing
oh really
did you win my son
It was just regular matchmaking games. He was in my bracket ancient to divine. Sometimes he was in my team sometimes others.
oh i didn't even see that mistake beat gbo
honestly i want to trade card back to 9oo6
for a week of foodge
too bad it isnt tradable
black market moment
maybe also a cosmetic 5* teapot for nahida
that ill never end up using
If they start doing tea pot furniture I will die. I can't stand not collecting something.
no like the weapon
What is the frequency of PC in NA or EU service?
oh thousand floating dreams. I would totally swap you that for the dragonspine golden card back.
once a year 😭
last one yea
Should just give the card back to everyone who qualifies
its just that back then there wasnt many good players so i got mixed in 
60 million people play this game surely a few more cards wont hurt
Envy those of you who can participate in SS and PC. If I want to participate, it will be this time next year
there will be another SS this year
toward winter
i mean the current SS literally says spring edition so
probably after 2 more season of CTG?
if they follow the pattern
🤔
or 3
pretty sure you got 12k earnings in TCG already. All I gotten were a few welkins haha most from surverys
The CN service’s CTG season has lengthened to 1 year per Dynamic cup(PC) and official finances from Mihoyo(Hoyoverse) are shrinking
the cn prince cup is like 250k yuan?
You need CN ID card since there are some policy restrictions
Impossible

Unless you born in that country or lend an account from your friend
Me need make some cn friends…
What’s that?
oh i didnt know that was a bad word my bad
Naughty naughty 

just to add: I asked miHoYo CN once and they insist that they are not going to open accounts for overseas users
I mean I'm mad but hey, that's how they do it I guess
they have too many players even had to change the starting id number
Honestly why even cn account
Just make tcg queue global 
Also fixed player base long wait times issue
There are anti-addiction laws in China to prevent minors from playing games, which may be the main reason of the restriction
it's pretty strict
Small children cant do video game?
Tcg not violent so it ok 
actually
They can, but 2 hours per week
Wah
i wonder how off the skill levels are for CN and other servers
do you know that on the flip side, CN people can definitely make Global accounts
Me play 80 hour a week when small child
yeah the policy been there for a while now
but they keep restricting it more and more
but i think it's a pretty valid policy tho
get these boomers off video games
You have to know that I’m about average in CN service.
Only top 150 in CN
You don’t know I’m CN?
You have english name
invader!!!
Maybe I will soon be an international student so I play in here
It can be concluded as chance
u can just play in the CTG without any id tho
that's where all the invaders come from
True
But I will be able to legitimately participate in CTG and SS by this time next year
I'm looking forward to that
Azdaha Lyney and the electric horse
Keep finding the cards. Find Jeht and you will win
That’s only because you are not lucky enough
the problem is using azdaha talent gives you mix dice wtf you suppose to do with that
Just na easy
You can play character(site) card by using reduced fee
@ebon copper do you want to play some games?
I’m still on campus so please wait me one hour
I'm the same for real 
cardback is forever. food you just poo it out again
LOL how did you have that image rdy
I've had this as a sticker for ages
dont kusa gasp me 
he won asia ctg once
and finalist in the recent one

play with me too
later somtime

idk how to not choke in important games

fake only results matter
a little late yea? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryVgbv1QLHI
Travelers, let's take a look at what's new in the Genius Invokation TCG for the 4.5 version update.
Thank Cat's Tail Gathering community for the great video!
#GenshinImpact
Its always late, at least its better than nothing 
Is it though
well your videos always drop earlier than theirs, and actually goes in-depth into the cards as well
if only you got accepted into the media server
you can always attend CTG-like competitions by just borrowing or buying a cn account, just won't be qualified for the cn prince cup

Heard slots for cn tourney gets filled in seconds
there's no identity check before cn pc, unless you violate the rules on fairness (like using multiple accounts)
no no i meant it violates the terms of service
yes but it only takes 2 seconds to register
that's true but doesn't really matter, lots of cn players are also using bought accounts
multiple accounts are definitely not allowed(
unless we have identity check in registration, but that's impossible
People can proc jeht on r2?

I thought people normally proc it on r3
I guess it's my skill issue

Yes I did it once but the Jeht only have 5 stacks each
I have fought someone who has max stacks and also proc it on R2 though 
You just gotta double liben turn 1 and not attack 🤣
Normally it is r3, proccing Jeht r2 imo is only possible if you use covenant arcane
And overally have very lucky rolls
If it's just once, then you're only lucky that round
I see
it is possible without this if you highroll every relevant magic engine card
Hm you are right... also I just watched some replays and another person also did it to me
the person I mentioned before was using Xingqiu Chongyun Razor & another from replay I just watched was using Lyney Azhdaha Seahorse
razor hyper popping off r2 is perfect roll territory
its more common on azhdaha hyper
Is it? I feel Az has more dice and draw built in and you're more likely to proc liben r1
Oh
Wait nvm read the wrong

i THINK a staff would join your world to spectate?
oh so the staff is recording not us?
I am free, Can go out and not worry about the weekend 🥳
Congrats, being last seeded person and winning the group must feel great 
Cats tail is hard cuz I always go day 1 like 1-4 and it is impossible to come back from. Mostly due to the invader alts.

maybe thats a skill issue

i always go 1-4 on the last day
funny enough I went 5-0 on the last day cuz I finally figure out the meta but it was too late
that usually happens if you play every day. Since you will be matching with other leaderboard every game cuz similar win rate

yeah i do that
i was like 22-3 by the end of day 5
and then got into a 9 loose streak
🥹
what's the highest score anyone has got in the last temper challenge? I missed 21k here
I think I only got 16k at best 
Uh I think there people who got close to 30k (?)
pleaseeeeee yall must know different challenges have different limits
the last, 4th, one
Already got 21k btw
Sorry I totally misread that😭🙏 personally I never see anyone higher than you if it's the fourth one
Though maybe that is because I am not up-to-date with the challenges 
Also what deck do you use for this if I may ask? I think I only got like... 10k or something 
follows a strict rotation so I had to concede a lot
but hutao doing one kill per action is awesome 
Thank you so much for this 
good luck if you wanna figure the rotation by yoursef!
Is the rotation that hard omg..
Well I will try my best, and I believe the deck would be better than the one I used anyways haha
not really hard if you think about it
but getting at least one decent run could be problematic
cannot remember what it was before though
you can look at her current usages
Omg...
that isn't edited right
Wow you have an amazing dedication.. 
Thanks 
Just my nature
@twilit steppe feast your eyes if you get tired of breaking the code xd
https://youtu.be/fSv93B7wKA8?si=rcrWy1z38C4cmE1N
Let’s pray I’ll find time to edit this later
Thanks for the video.. the execution looks perfect to me haha
those 2 dice I couldn't ramp were sad
and not getting the sixth dice of instructor
so could be 22k in theory..? but then you just add jeht from sunyata and it's 23k
too stupid luck required so I'm not going for that
TAKE YOUR PLACE: WILD CARD REGISTRATIONS ARE LIVE
Registration: https://go.weplay.tv/3t6srwn2
Format and information: https://act.hoyoverse.com/ys/event/astracarnival/index.html#/newsDetail/122982
@supple marsh the web page is blank
it's back right when you said that
the only thing that's matter
I wonder whether players quality to top 32 need to download the game again and any players who can't download it in time can't play (disqualified)

That's the case last year
tournament client is enforced but Ivan from WePlay said that they are considering hosting machines with the client installed for competitors to connect to via Internet if they can't install the client themselves
Like virtual devices?
like cloud gaming
That's good
Do we need to have fast internet speed?
probably should be decent enough for other cloud gaming services, but I really can't give an exact number
Do you think 1 mbps is enough?
is the B in capital or not
1 megabit/sec would suck
1 megabyte/sec? probably fine
1 Megabyte/sec
I see
I wonder why we can't use the game we have downloaded?

Like just make a patch or something
it would have been possible had it not been for the fact that America and Europe players are in the same bracket
and I'd assume they can't just make a patch to the main client for a small number of players
But downloading a game with 100 GB with internet speed 300 kbps on laptop is really really difficult
And within limited time
I agree that that sucks
and I really like how WePlay tries to mitigate the issue by providing cloud machines
I wonder how many players last year give up prince up because of interest speed issue

we Asia people don't get that though 
I hope it works well for players with slow internet speed
Get what? Cloud machine?
How about players how HK/TW/MO play on Asia, all of them have account on Asia
At least that's what I know from last year participants
I see
wait so theres gonna be another showdown before prince?
cuz current showdown only got 12 ppl
it's 12 from EU and 12 from NA = 24 ppl qualifying thru CTG
oh i see
NA and EU having prince together hmm
yeah it's going to be interesting
but wild card isnt cross region right?
check point 5 under notes https://act.hoyoverse.com/ys/event/astracarnival/index.html?lang=en-us#/newsDetail/122982
I'm so confused. Is this also online?
wild card is
prince first phase is as well
prince top 8 is LAN
Lieil Nyahida and SI in prince cup let's go
card
I’m excited for the new cards
it's already out
source? do we know what action cards are being added, or what the character cards do?
oh
i thought we're talking about the new card back

oh lol
No I meant the new character cards announced in stream
I wanna try one with Neuv
I’ve been having a lot of fun with the healing /stall Neuv deck I have
But if I have electro it goes brrrr

is there going to be a cats tail event in 4.6?
Gib tournament plz
@agile iron seems like you've won CTG:SS but you haven't joined the PC Atlantic Discord server and the tournament starts in 4 days

uhh I didn't know I had to log in to another server, please help me with that
and first of all, thank you very much for the warning, I would have missed it for sure.
thank you very much for the offer but it is my responsibility to give it my all
(although a bit distracted hehe).
😔
have you received forms and stuff that you're supposed to fill in?
that forms that asked you for identity and residence information? yes
so all the ID verification and stuff done?
you should expect to receive the role for competitors soon
oh and match schedule is out so please have a look at it to not miss it
thanks n.n
btw just realized that you haven't got your roles so idt you got the schedule just yet so I DM'd you that
will the cat tail point reset? or will the previous 2 season cumulate for wtv comes next too?
yes it is reset
we're ready for '25 it seems 👀
considering that our top-tier event series (The Prince Cup) takes 3 versions while CN's (Phantom Cup) takes only 1, I can see why things are being done this early
anyone know if this ctg is gonna be a qualifier for anything else?
Huh the card back is old
at least it's a rerun - heard that in China there was no rerun and 4.5-4.7 tournament peeps only get the blue one
What happens is we already have the card back 
Are you earning SS points for this one?
Whoaa we finally got extra days 
I've been putting that feedback in the last 3 surveys at least, good to see it happening. Thank you TOs 
im happy too; means more time to spread out to focus on the tourney and my college life w/o too much crunching in for both
use those extra two days well ~
I like the new changes for the tourney
wait what changed?
extra days 
I'm gonna invade NA
I wish I can meet you in tournaments
pls no invade
I mean I'd still main Asia; besides, aside from money there's not much to get from invading anyway
and I probably won't win any money
I’m going to invade NA
you did
I'll smash you all 

Hellooo
How do I know if I registered correctly? I'm new to this and think this sounds fun
Same question:)
If your UID & level etc is correct + recorded when you check #🎫register (when you click the 'register' button again that is) I think that is a sign you have registered
Will we get notified when the game officially starts? (I am still very confused about the specific participation process.)
Same
This is the time period for the tourney
So, basically from May 10th to 19th, we just need to click the button and match five times each day, right? And then after the 19th, they're going to rank us based on our scores, right?
Yup basically
You can skip in between days if you are busy
And have those left games carry over and play more games next day too
And only 35 games 2 extra days are just so that busy people have extra time to play
Get it.
By the way, I heard it's best not to use slow decks because there might not be enough time to play fully, is that right?
In past seasons yes, but now there are more days for you to play, so it's more reasonable. 35 matches is still a lot though!
Get it. I really prefer slow deck. But maybe it’s time for me to try something new
You’d have enough time for slow decks if you are strong
Will we have to screen record or anything?
Oki
Just one more question, can I play it on my iPad? 
where is register
the game is cross-platform so I don't see why not
Great
i found it
i wish it were in this category

ouu fair fair LOL
i have the channel actually Fav'd to the top so i have all the info needed to help ~ 
but yeh will agree it prob should be tied together, or at least closer together as categories 
btw is there a role to get pinged for tcg related stuff only?
had to mute role pings because the server kept pinging with like abyss events and stuff
i think the event pings is the only way to get notified of all the #tournament-updates, but ill see if i can pass this up to the TOs if they are able to accommodate this!

Why so much NA invasions
I went disgustingly hardcore stall for now and it's working and it's nice to stay at like 10 HP the whole match, but games are going to 6~12 rounds now
I mean, I also usually took like 6 rounds with Jeht while setting up but by that point it was joever
I'm running this absolute mess of a deck and it might very well be my worst one yet with how many one-offs I'm running
so I'm in dire need of guidance
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I'm not sure if I vibe with Taroumaru or the underwater treasure thingy
In a Neuvy, Layla, and Kokomi deck, should I switch Kokomi w/ Barbie?
I think Barbara is better in this deck
What are the good decks now
just yoink from prince cup streams surely
at least that's what i'll do 😭
The meta decks in the KQM site are pretty outdated
yeah... 
They haven't updated them since 4. something
Time to speed run to get all the new cards
make sure to grab lumenstone/pankration
they require chasm spelunkers and fortress quests respectively
(you buy lumen from regular shop. It just wont show up until after you finish the quest)
Which Chasm quest?
spelunkers
its one of the mainline quests for the chasm
Oh, I've already done all of them
I just gotta get the monster cards
Including crab
🦀

@subtle ibex does pineapple belong in a salad?
Fruit salad counts as salad
Yes
And yes
need I say any more 
Im too scared of eating salad now
They keep adding this one random giga bitter leaf that ruins my whole experience
Yea kinda looks like that
thats arugula haha. It's a common one. I dunno I like it now
bitter stuff is nice sometimes
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