[America Server] Discussions

[rich wasp]

what proof right

[slow heart]

so what if you own house in 3 region

and just fly there

[rich wasp]

so the best you can say is its heavily discouraged

[slow heart]

like if I have prove of residence in na eu country and 1 asia country

[gleaming parcel]

That’s a lot of determination lol

[slow heart]

I mean if you make top 1 or 2 in all three region it shouldn't be a problem to buy a couple plane ticket with that money

[safe plaza]

they can't enforce the no alts rule, otherwise they would

that's my impression

[slow heart]

2 factor authentication gldge

[gleaming parcel]

It depends lol. Last minute international plane tickets are expensiveeeee

[pearl fern]

the current rationale is the events themselves are standalone with their own prizes, rather than pure 'qualifiers'

[rich wasp]

yeah

in any case

for the most part nobody plays in multiple regions now

[raven fiber]

gg's I should of put my ToTM on in the start

[rich wasp]

no helms

[safe plaza]

i saw that

[rich wasp]

thats fine i just dont want to leek deck to too many people

[safe plaza]

[ancient spindle]

oh no

SI has started playing

[lucid sable]

8/20 matches because I've been so bad at actually doing CTG instead of rmm

[pearl glade]

meow~

[safe plaza]

meow

[ancient spindle]

Meow

[gleaming parcel]

Finally got the card back

[gleaming parcel]

I’m 5/20

[tropic slate]

cardback secured! nice!

[gleaming parcel]

The new deck really helped

[lucid sable]

Going 5-5 which is good enough all things considered

my copium isn't the best but card back is secured indeed

[gleaming parcel]

The only deck I really struggled against with was stall decks, im still not sure how to beat those

[tropic slate]

the easiest way to beat stall decks is with something that can, over the course of a single turn, stockpile so many dice and so much damage that the stall deck can't survive it

[lucid sable]

bring out a 10+ dmg nuke out of nowhere

[tropic slate]

otherwise, you need to wait for them to make a mistake at a critical moment and take out their lynchpin

stall v some decks is a functionally impossible matchup if the stall player doesn't make any mistakes

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah that’s a little hard to do with my deck lol.

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah. I ran out of cards in a match for the first time ever today

But my new deck is really nice

[safe plaza]

nice job!!

[raven fiber]

Naah why am i getting matched with all Top people lol

[tropic slate]

i hate to tell you this bro but you may be a top player

[raven fiber]

im only 4-3 lool

[crystal tapir]

lost to raiden sucrose alhaithm

maybe its time to retire

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

[tropic slate]

oh i fought this person too

definitely caught me off guard

which deck did you fight with?

[crystal tapir]

i forgor

it was either noelle or benny

[thick charm]

hey so it seems that there's only 2 hours left in this queue and I'm questioning why did I even sign up for this season lmao

I'm not having time to play wish me luck guys

funniest part will be also being busy on the weekend lol

[raven fiber]

naah this CTG is rigged

1st i get SI, then Mizuki, Then Elizabeth wdf

[thick charm]

how to play aggro so I do or die and the games are over quicker than with Noelle

oh god so I DID miss a week wtf now I'm depressed

i'll never be complete ever again in my life 🥲

also, insane that 690k coins and we're still nowhere near close to clearing shop

[nocturne kestrel]

will serious showdown split players from their regions, or just servers

[tropic slate]

i don't think it's a week you missed; probably the coins from the Asia Invitational stream

over the first two days of the top 8 streams, they gave away 3000 coins each

[thick charm]

oh huh 🤔

there was a week I was super uncertain if I played or not

guess I have some copium that I didn't, just that I missed some giveaway apparently?

[rich wasp]

am tcg casual

[safe plaza]

[thick charm]

queue is dead, get into it for free win

[raven fiber]

Who is Kaori?

[cursive viper]

[nocturne kestrel]

[willow lion]

i almost threw the game cuz i miscaled 1 dice

holy shit

[raven fiber]

...how long do i need to wait for the other person to confirm?

[willow lion]

if its more than a few min its prob cuz bot lagged out

just requeue

[raven fiber]

dm getting it sorted now

[willow lion]

gl

[barren anchor]

you're playing on na this season? :yaethunk:

[raven fiber]

maybe

[hallow lance]

any other 3 win dippers here

id play more but i gotta catch up on hw

[pearl fern]

there's prob a lot of 3 win dippers but a lot of them probably aren't super active chatting if they dip

[rotund lichen]

3+dip complete

[thick charm]

I'm probably gonna 3 win dip this season

I've only played like 5 games total, I'm so far behind my quota lmao

but I got a couple ebic stall vs stall 10 turn massacres so I'm satisfied too that match length is totally part of the problem yes

[rotund lichen]

they should allow concede would be better to skip those matches

[thick charm]

indeed, all my wins would be turn 1 then

best balance change

[rotund lichen]

i don't mind it will reduce the time to get 3 wins

don't care how many losses

[solar aspen]

Why are they baning watchers? Are they using the feature to cheat?

[tropic slate]

the feature can be used to cheat, yes

that said, so can streaming your games the regular way, it's the honor system to an extent

[white cipher]

hello what are people playing this time?

[rotund lichen]

how do u cheat with it can u see the other persons cards

[tropic slate]

in spectator mode, yes

you can also switch perspectives in spectator mode

and the spectator can then feed back information to the player

[rotund lichen]

that's pretty funny

[tropic slate]

Even if you're streaming your games the regular way, getting advice from 'backseaters' is also cheating

because you're turning what should be a 1v1 into a many v 1

[rotund lichen]

yeah but banning in game spectators does nothing to prevent that

you can screen share trivially

[tropic slate]

you're right, but this is the best they can do

realistically

[south tiger]

you can't prevent backseating yeah

they're just trying to ban spectating directly in co-op mode

[sacred marten]

[south tiger]

but since there are no ways to differentate that with normal spectating

[rotund lichen]

backseating shouldn't matter it should just be seeing opponent cards

[south tiger]

so they just don't allow both

[rotund lichen]

i'm surprised the spectating shows either player cards

it would solve most of it if you can only see the cards of the person you joined through

because it would be pretty tricky to infiltrate friends list of people you're going to match against

[tropic slate]

the thing with backseating is that - for example, pretend that I was playing someone like Meteorites, who's at the top of the NA leaderboard right now

[rotund lichen]

but i've never spectated so don't know how it works

[tropic slate]

and I had KevinZ, SI, and Kirano watching my game and giving me advice

that's not fair for my opponent

[rotund lichen]

yeah but it's not preventable by any means

it's beyond futile to even try

[tropic slate]

"Perfect is the enemy of Good"

they do what they can with the rules

[rotund lichen]

it's not good it's useless

[tropic slate]

and hope it will be enough

[slow mason]

2-3 twice in a row

https://tenor.com/view/diona-genshin-impact-diona-genshin-diona-genshin-impact-cry-gif-24037081

[rotund lichen]

what's 2-3

[slow mason]

2 wins 3 loses

[thick charm]

"do or do not there is no try" is the worst advice yoda could've given, just because it's not 100% effective doesn't mean you shouldn't wear protection

[frigid sundial]

[rotund lichen]

it's 0% effective for that purpose

[thick charm]

ah yes because backseating someone is just as equally powerful as having a friend sneak in and looking at the opponent's hand

[gleaming parcel]

Rikkkaaaatthhhh

[thick charm]

mm?

[willow lion]

thats honestly so cheat

[tropic slate]

to be clear that is an if

[willow lion]

just get the pros from other server to watch ur game and ggez

am aware

im sure you wont do such thing

[tropic slate]

they would not knowingly do so for a serious match because they have integrity

and i would not ask them to for a serious match because i have integrity

but it serves as an example

[thick charm]

if someone really wants to cheat, they'll find a way, they can't police you not streaming in vc to your friends

but it doesn't mean they shouldn't prevent you from doing something even more broken as having a friend to spectate in-game and snitch your opponent's hand

I spectated a friend once and I didn't think of switching perspective, but now that I'm aware that it reveals their opponent's hand that looks like a lack of foresight on mhy's part

in-game you can't really cheat it because you don't have the chat available during tcg, but odds are you have contact with your friend outside the game

[tropic slate]

The switching perspective only works if you're spectating in co-op mode from within their world, actually

if you're spectating random matchmaking you can't swap perspective

so technically it's easy enough to prevent by simply not letting anyone else in your world during your match

[thick charm]

🤔 interesting, so they kinda thought of it

[tropic slate]

but in order to do that you do need to have auto-join off

[thick charm]

I wasn't in her world when spectating so maybe I couldn't even swap perspective

[tropic slate]

or, failing that, turn off the spectator mode option

[willow lion]

2 days left for prelim right?

well idk if 2 day left but 2 day left for all 35 quotas

would 24-11 be enough for top 16 this season NA

🤔

[tropic slate]

three, technically

there are still 30 minutes left in morning queue for today

then there's evening queue today, and both queues on saturday and sunday

24-11 is probably too little, but might be enough

we can't know for sure until the scores are all tallied

[willow lion]

i see that last place is already at like 15-10

[gleaming parcel]

@thick charm did you see what I did :0

[eternal musk]

as usual I still have 25 games to play

[willow lion]

cuz worst case scenario i could go like 26-11

[eternal musk]

[thick charm]

I uh what

[willow lion]

which is not ideal but i might get shit on

[thick charm]

winning more?

[gleaming parcel]

People are saying this season is way more competitive than last season so it’s certainly possible

[willow lion]

its not that simple 😔

i wish i could just simply win more

[thick charm]

o no sorry I was asking Coryn what they did

[willow lion]

oh

[gleaming parcel]

I won the card back, yeah, I got more wins with the new Ayato Thoma deck

[thick charm]

wish I could win more

oh congrats

[gleaming parcel]

It’s actually really nice

[willow lion]

the one with mao dunkyar engine?

[thick charm]

see you can do it if you just open yourself to new ideas

[gleaming parcel]

I have to go to work tho, have funnn

[willow lion]

or did someone else cook something for u

[gleaming parcel]

It’s a little different, I’ll talk about it this evening

[thick charm]

I really haven't been able to play but I'd like to see how you pilot it

[gleaming parcel]

See yaaa

[tropic slate]

Mirai you're at 18-2

that's literally the best record anyone has at the moment

you don't need to worry

[willow lion]

every day i fear of getting shit on 😔

[eternal musk]

double 0-5 fear

[willow lion]

yesterday i had to literally play into 3 mirror match up and 2 stall it was pain as hell

[willow lion]

last season i thought that too cuz i was at ~#10 by 25 matches and then with the last 2 days i got shit on

[tropic slate]

well then you've gotten better since last season clearly

[willow lion]

the nyahida LS ptsd

[tropic slate]

lmao

[willow lion]

not really i just didnt queue into 4 different golden dragonspine this season💀

luck multiplier

[tropic slate]

its ok the golden dragonspine are mostly washed anyway

[willow lion]

although i did study how to fight stall for like 2 hours

[eternal musk]

true actually

[willow lion]

😔

[slow heart]

studying against stall

[willow lion]

id rather fight a regular player than a washed dragonspine

[slow heart]

played si yesterday

[willow lion]

howd u do

[slow heart]

i die

[willow lion]

gg

[slow heart]

close match tho

[willow lion]

mfs yesterday would literally see that im on leaderboard and then play stall

"pls go easy on me" and then pick the most annoying stall

[slow heart]

kek

I played a match and barb burst healed 12 hp and I still die

some people are playing some sus combo

[tropic slate]

layla/tartaglia/barbara is the new hot stall deck

[slow heart]

single carry stall I don't like it

[pine heron]

Does this run adeptus

[tropic slate]

some do, some don't

[slow heart]

some run amos some don't

[pine heron]

[slow heart]

I only know one person that really play that deck tho

[willow lion]

if i get into knockout and get top 8 i would be happy as shit already and take my winnings gladly

i dont expect myself to perform anybetter

not that im going to not try

but my goal is to reach top 8

[night token]

Luckily there's no spectators in my matches to see my hand and dice

[pearl glade]

Meow~

Gm leorocs

[sick blaze]

You did your best for sure, this ctg is just so hard

[willow lion]

u need at least 2 deck for knock out phase rn right

since previous char gets banned once u win with them

so 6 diff character

*at least

[tropic slate]

yes, you need at least two decks

[rotund lichen]

by that point we were only taking about back seating if you can't follow that sucks

[crystal tapir]

damn is this why i lost 🤔

[summer berry]

🦤

[gleaming parcel]

Dodo bird??

[crystal tapir]

kevin backseating superbird while watching my hand in spectate 💀

[summer berry]

Speaking hypothetically :ayahah:

[crystal tapir]

smh smh thought you was on my side

[tropic slate]

hey i offered you to do heated battle instead and you said no

i figured i was being generous

[pearl fern]

[willow lion]

everytime i fight gboo i get shit on by luck

while they high rolls

time to pray to them instead of rngesus next time

[tropic slate]

lol true

[pearl fern]

once there's some density of good players competing, then making top 16 can come down to some luck aspects heh

[willow lion]

i didnt get a single crisp, gilded, gambler, or danbouri chicken...

any one of these wouldve won me the game

but nah id loose

[thick charm]

Insert nah id win meme but opposite

[willow lion]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-nahida-jujutsu-kaisen-domain-expansion-gif-5960485711883258637

nah i'd loose

[safe plaza]

@cursive viper @hard vale @craggy cloak

Is this a good compromise for Lia

It's just my name

[cursive viper]

Wow can belive you left the clan

[gleaming parcel]

@pearl fern guess what

[safe plaza]

I'm in the clan

[pearl fern]

I heard you got the card back, congrats and kudos for sticking in there

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah… I still went 1-4today though.

[pearl fern]

days get harder as it goes and newer players drop

and honestly there's only so far you can get with non-meta decks. There's a reason the meta decks are the way they are

[gleaming parcel]

I also found out that I matched someone today who has like 3x more wins than me, and I feel like that shouldn’t happen??

The person I matched with had 15 wins, and I have 5

[pearl fern]

the matching is prob best effort, and so as more ppl drop it has to go wider and wider to find players

[tropic slate]

10 win diff is the farthest I've seen of it though

[pearl fern]

but it could also legitimately be some bug - we don't really have insight into how often that happens

mm so maybe it's just a rare outlier

[gleaming parcel]

Yeahh idk. I just feel better playing against players my level

[pearl fern]

Ideally something like that shouldn't happen though I'd agree

[gleaming parcel]

It is Friday night though, maybe people might be more out and about

Oh I have one more match

I thought I was done lol

[frigid sundial]

Good luck

[safe plaza]

Good luck!!

[gleaming parcel]

I do that like every day, I think I’ve hit my max and then I queue one more time to double check and I have one more

Yeah the person I queued with has had twice as many wins as me

[slow heart]

do they have around the same win/loss ratio as you tho hmm

[gleaming parcel]

They’re at 50%, I’m at 25%

[safe plaza]

I don't think the match making system is that tuned

I think it's a soft MMR system

Pon could probably explain how it works

[slow heart]

I match someone with 9-2 score with my copium 3-2s :gldge

[gleaming parcel]

:0

I mean mathematically that’s a similar win rate though

[slow heart]

as in I have 3-2 many times my score was 12-7 when I fought that person

surely a 80%ish win rate is similar to 60%ish win rate

[gleaming parcel]

It’s better than a 25% versus an 80%

[willow lion]

just bow to gboo for good luck

[slow heart]

I just beat gboo a moment ago

don't worship other people when you can worship youself

[barren anchor]

regarding the matchmaking, it feels like it was changed this season :yaethunk: previously it was possible to get a match in less than 5s, but now it's as if it forces you to wait at least a minute or so before matching

[willow lion]

i cant worship myself

everytime i go into gboo i get card cringed

[slow heart]

if you can't believe in youself hard enough that you will win, how will you win?

[willow lion]

this season, and last season

[slow heart]

you can also counter pick their deck

[willow lion]

why am i getting lectured

[willow lion]

i dont know what they play in the first place

[slow heart]

I believe I know what they are playing

[willow lion]

i mean i know now

[slow heart]

therefor I counter pick base on my feeling and they get screw over

[willow lion]

nyahida havent played today either

whos alt is this

[gleaming parcel]

I lost 4/5 games today, but I kinda wanna play someone else for practice / advice

[slow heart]

i can play some games with you if u want

[gleaming parcel]

Yes pls

[slow heart]

let me finish this genshin quest real quick

[gleaming parcel]

Uid is 635932231

[gleaming parcel]

Okie

[safe plaza]

Could just be the bot lagging

[willow lion]

can i backseat one of u

@gleaming parcel

[gleaming parcel]

Yee sure

[gleaming parcel]

You can join me

[willow lion]

are u able to stream

if not ill just join the world

[gleaming parcel]

Not on console unfortunately

[willow lion]

😔

[tropic slate]

it actually is technically possible, you just have to do it in multiple steps

[gleaming parcel]

yeah I don’t have that kind of patience / technology wiz

[tropic slate]

my setup is to use the built-in functionality to stream to my youtube account, and then open the youtube stream in fullscreen and share the window on discord

used to prefer twitch, but twitch has this nasty habit of pausing the playback when the screen isn't active

[willow lion]

oh i cant even not look at the other side

[gleaming parcel]

Wdym?

[willow lion]

it just shows me

[slow heart]

Coryn need to enable co-op watching

[willow lion]

i cant even choose to not look at it

no like i can see both sides hand

wheni only wanted to see coryn

[slow heart]

oh

yea

this is why it is illegal to spectate now

[willow lion]

id give coryn some deck suggestion if they want to show me their deck afterward

like changes

[gleaming parcel]

I’m open to it, yeah

[willow lion]

cool

sayu instead of eula freeze 🤔

[gleaming parcel]

I did a dumb thing lol

I should have played my food card

[willow lion]

gg

[slow heart]

I mull my fwof r1 and it is the last card of the deck lmao

[willow lion]

skull

couple misplays on coryn's side too

[gleaming parcel]

I had a food card and I should used it with Ayato’s burst

[willow lion]

and the deck composition is, bit inefficient

[slow heart]

vape sadge

[gleaming parcel]

I have cards I could have used but didn’t even pull lol

[willow lion]

dm me ur deck

[gleaming parcel]

idk how to

I don’t have an easy way to send my deck

[willow lion]

uhhh

or u can just take 2 pictures

[gleaming parcel]

console struggles lol

[willow lion]

of it

click share and then take picture with ur phone ig

[gleaming parcel]

I’m down to play one more game though

[slow heart]

sure

[gleaming parcel]

interesting, new card and new team for me

[slow heart]

time to test out mega magic

[willow lion]

whats the first thing that u notice about there team

[slow heart]

yes think about what my team can and will do

[willow lion]

the spectate is bugged out 💀

[gleaming parcel]

Uhh well first off I got bad rolls lol.

[willow lion]

rejoining

[willow lion]

everyone gets bad rolls once in a while

[gleaming parcel]

But probably lots of elemental damage, and attacking everyone on the team

[willow lion]

they have 3 diff elemetns, so theyre most likely running artifact engine

meaning with lyre, they can summon dice out of nowhere

yelan start means they want to get her burst out asap, so you want to try to pressure the yelan

with your hand, you could have given yelan a very big pressure round 1, and ultimately delaying their burst

or making them loose dice to try to get the burst out successfully

but since you start first, you automatic win the round 1 trade, and they are forced to swap off due to fear of litm

see, gilded magic, now theyre able to sneak out the yelan burst

all these things u have to try to predict and account for if u want to get a advantage over ur opponent

yessir

[gleaming parcel]

How???

[willow lion]

you had pyro resonance off the start

[gleaming parcel]

I could figure out that’s what they were trying to do though

[gleaming parcel]

But there wasn’t anything I could do with it

[willow lion]

no you could have done stuff

i would thoma E, swap ayato and then end turn

and then theyre forced to swap off yelan

their burst is more valuable than yours, you have to keep that in mind

[gleaming parcel]

but I need Thoma’s burst??

[willow lion]

so delaying your own burst to delay theirs, is a win for u

[gleaming parcel]

How do I know which burst is more valuable though

like how would I have known that????
I was just told with this deck to get thoma’s burst as fast as possible

[willow lion]

its a typical yelan OTK, that means they have to get yelan's burst out to actually be a threat

[willow lion]

yes but u cant do that everygame

ideally, you get thoma burst asap

[gleaming parcel]

that much I figured, yeah

[willow lion]

but in this situation, their burst threat is more harmful than yours

[gleaming parcel]

I can usually get it in 2 turns, sometimes I just have to sacrifice cards

[willow lion]

even if u dont have thoma burst up, he can still be a anchor and ur ayato and lyney can output good dmg on their own

[thick charm]

man I was out the whole day I'm starting to wonder if I'll get the cardback at all lmao

I'll be so busy tomorrow too lol

[willow lion]

but if they have no yelan burst, its very hard for them to play

[slow heart]

ayato dying is kinda bad

since you need him for vape and pyro res

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah, he usually dies when I play.

Best games I get his burst out then he dies

[willow lion]

thats usually good enough

but your deck lacks a lot of ramp

as a high threat deck without ramp is kinda bad

[gleaming parcel]

I guess, I’m not sure what to change in it

I just try to get the dice and cards I need and rely on those elemental reactions

I’m down for one more ??
Mirai do you wanna play and lieil watch?

[slow heart]

sure

i can do either

go for it

coryn do it

I was thinking about using card 2 but ok

[gleaming parcel]

lol when the deck does well it does really well

[willow lion]

insanely cucked dice and card

[slow heart]

player diff

[willow lion]

wheres my bennett talent card

its been like 3 rounds

[gleaming parcel]

sometimes it really comes down to card pulls and dice rolls

[slow heart]

I would have litm bennett na and rush his burst

[willow lion]

did i even carry bennett card

[slow heart]

with bennett burst up u just win against vape

since they don't do enough dmg

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah. I was a little scared of that Bennett burst lol

[willow lion]

i couldnt have done anything since u started first and had the pyro resonance card threat

[slow heart]

there are still one more test your deck need to go through

it has play against aggro and combo

it is time for stall

[willow lion]

ok time to whip out finaly>

[gleaming parcel]

Stall decks are evil

I hate them lol

[slow heart]

I played finaly before u join

[willow lion]

play me agian

oh

[gleaming parcel]

Ok

[willow lion]

let me do something diff then

[slow heart]

I will leave and finish my games or rest

[gleaming parcel]

I did learn though, I tried to keep in mind what you said

Barbara noelle/kokomi and ningguang deck kills me

Thoma or Ayato

[willow lion]

what

oh that

both games i didnt get bennett card

😔

[gleaming parcel]

lol I think I’m done tho

[willow lion]

ggs

[gleaming parcel]

But yeah. When I get the right cards it does really well

And right rolls

But if I don’t, i screw myself over

[willow lion]

not every game gives u perfect starts and when it doesnt thats where player skill comes in

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah, and I feel like that’s where I’m lacking a bit

Cause there was stuff you guys saw that I could have done that I didn’t even see

[willow lion]

yeah for example that thoma round 1 play

it was fine, but you have to consider the fact that im double pyro too

and i can come and 1 tap u

[gleaming parcel]

yeah, I didn’t even think of that

[misty harness]

I think my opponent just RQ on me. can't really blame them, they skipped a turn because of the timer, but I'm worried I may be stuck waiting for the bot to autoclose the match and unable to fill my daily match quota

[willow lion]

the more u die the more u know

[gleaming parcel]

lol that’s true I suppose, but having you guys watch and point out stuff I could have done really really helped too

[misty harness]

what happens if my opponent doesn't confirm the results, again?

[crystal tapir]

you /gicancel and report from there

[willow lion]

if they dont even respond to your ping, contact staff

[misty harness]

they responded eventually, said it was internet issues which I guess makes sense. nobody skips an entire round for no reason

[gleaming parcel]

But thank you @willow lion and @slow heart For helping me out :3

[slow heart]

[gleaming parcel]

[safe plaza]

I played

Two games on an airplane

Nice

[willow lion]

i guess u could say u were on a jeht engine

[safe plaza]

Lmao

I went 1-1

Ting took a game from me

[twilit steppe]

Omg me too.. like why did I got matched with a good player who has 5 wins above me at the time

Oh wait I also got matched with someone who only has 3 losses throughout the tournament when I have like 7-8 losses well skill issue on my part, I should've just played better tbh

[safe plaza]

It's okay Ryssa you'll win next time trust

[twilit steppe]

Thank you hopefully you too

[safe plaza]

[solar aspen]

Indeed, this would be the best way to prevent that

[solar aspen]

True

[supple marsh]

iirc it's the current behavior for spectator mode already, no?

[rotund lichen]

i'm not sure i've never tried it

[sick blaze]

If you spectate match of your friend from "observe duel" option in friendlist, you only see their cards and dice. If you spectate from co-op mode (you are in the world together with players), then you see cards and dice of both sides.

[safe plaza]

Question: what's the point of making KOs conquest format if it's closed decklists no bans?

[eternal musk]

If you lose with a deck and can't use it again you may find yourself in a situation where you are forced to play a bad mu because of the order in which the decks were chosen.

Conquest still gives you the flexibility to choose to keep or change

[safe plaza]

You can use a deck if you lose with it

It's only if you win

But it's closed deck lists, and no bans. So I mean, someone can win with FiNaLy, and you won't see any of those characters anymore, but that doesn't mean you know what they will play next

And I don't think someone losing with a deck means they have to play it again

Because it's not pick 3 ban 1 play 2

[eternal musk]

Idk, chinese tournaments are all conquest.

[safe plaza]

As was Asia Inv, but KOs here aren't true conquest

Sadge

[willow lion]

first game of the day i get locked into LS

and they pull a totm first round and another totm second round

what do i even do

[tropic slate]

oh rip yeah

not much you can do to that

[gleaming parcel]

When is the last day of the tournament?

[ancient spindle]

at this time tmr is the last queue time

[gleaming parcel]

Damn.
I won’t be able to play tomorrow unless I pull an all nighter.

I close tomorrow for work

I’m still being matched with people who have double the win rate than I do

[ancient spindle]

its maybe due to lack of players

[night token]

I curse those who play finaly an infinate painful loss

[gleaming parcel]

It’s still not okay

[ancient spindle]

idk many of players i know tell me they r like this too

[gleaming parcel]

??

What do you mean

[ancient spindle]

matching into not equal skill level i believe

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah… idk. It’s just discouraging.

I really wanna at least win one more game, especially if this is my last day playing

Cause otherwise my record will be 5-25 and that’s embarrassing

[slow mason]

I think thats because a lot of people by now have already gotten their card back and dipped

[tropic slate]

yeah, it gets harder every dat for that reason

[desert grove]

I just had some pretty exciting matches against top players. I got defeated handily, but it was a good time!

[gleaming parcel]

Well.
I finished the season 6-24.
I’m pathetic

[safe plaza]

I'm also out now

11 losses and I'm currently playing on mobile bc I'm traveling

No point if I can't make leaderboard, ggwp everyone 🫡

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t even play to make leaderboard like most people, I just want to win as many primos as I can

[pearl glade]

ggwp

👍

[safe plaza]

Might play the rest for fun

[pearl glade]

i havent even started

[thick charm]

queue for free win

[gleaming parcel]

What does ggwp mean?

[gleaming parcel]

Why couldn’t you have been here an hour ago

[pearl glade]

queue for free win

[gleaming parcel]

Playing all your games in a single day is stressful

[pearl glade]

i shall play three games

no more

no less

3 wins for card back

[gleaming parcel]

What if you lose all 3?

[thick charm]

good game well played

[gleaming parcel]

But how do you know it’s a good game, or know that it’s well played

[gleaming parcel]

Ew, this is creepy

[safe plaza]

It's just something you say to be respectful to your opponent

Whether you mean it or not, it's good practice to say it

[gleaming parcel]

yeah, but being slaughtered isn’t a good game

Having the game end in 3 rounds isn’t a good game

Making mistakes, playing the wrong card, not getting the cards you need, not getting the dice you need… it’s not a good game or well played

[thick charm]

tell me about it

im not gonna show more im just gonna say it's probs ending now

also would you rather your opponent to be rude

than polite

[safe plaza]

3 rounds is when you can expect a game to end

Unless someone is playing stall

[gleaming parcel]

I mean, no, but false positivity isn’t really fun either

[pearl glade]

@thick charm are you in a game?

queue is taking longer than expected

ive been waiting 10 minutes now

[thick charm]

yea I'm in a game now

[pearl glade]

i see

[thick charm]

is not false positivity it's being polite

[safe plaza]

I wouldn't say it's false positivity. This is the convention in every competitive game, to wish your opponent well before and after a match, whether you win or lose

[pearl glade]

oh nyo

[safe plaza]

It's sportsmanship

[gleaming parcel]

I think most people have completed their matches for the day too

[pearl glade]

yeah that makes sense

it's getting quite late

[thick charm]

well I still don't have 3 wins so

[pearl glade]

ping me when you queue

[thick charm]

@pearl glade

[pearl glade]

omw!

[gleaming parcel]

There are still 2 hours left in the queue time though, but it’s also been 2 hours since it started

[gleaming parcel]

Ehhh idk.
It just kinda feels like salt being rubbed in the wound

[thick charm]

gonna dip as soon as I get my 3rd win I don't have time for like 30-something games tomorrow lmao

this wasn't a good week for me to participate and I was kiiiinda looking forward to it

[pearl glade]

same

life got busy

[safe plaza]

I feel you

[pearl glade]

@thick charm still in queue?

[thick charm]

nopoe I got matched with a fellow Noelle enjoyer

[gleaming parcel]

Sorry
I really don’t know why I take this kind of stuff so seriously

[safe plaza]

[gleaming parcel]

I feel like I always get my self worth tied up in things like this, even if it’s something that has no physical impact on my life

It’s hard to not want to do well at the things I enjoy, or do well at the prospect of rewards

[safe plaza]

That's the nature of competitive games

It makes sense to be upset when you lose when you invest so much of yourself into learning how to win

[gleaming parcel]

Idk I get the impression most people don’t care either way though. That losing doesn’t matter and they don’t get dejected over their losses, not the way I tend to

[safe plaza]

Players invested in GITCG competitively definitely suffer crushing losses and get upset

I think some people manage their reactions well even if they feel heightened emotions

Like I'm sad I didn't make LB, but it just means I need to do better next time

[willow lion]

if ur upset about loosing then just get better

or don't play

this goes for every competitive game

[crystal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-sugarcoat-it-gif-27259498

[willow lion]

are u playing LS again

[crystal tapir]

nah surely not...

[gleaming parcel]

It’s weird, because I wouldn’t consider myself highly invested in it the way others are?
I don’t watch tournaments or hyper analyze statistics or play meta decks just for the sake of winning

[crystal tapir]

[willow lion]

[willow lion]

wanna scrimmage practice later

[crystal tapir]

after i lose 2 more ctg games

[safe plaza]

I think some people might take losses better when they know the game well, bc they'll know when it's RNG vs. skill issue

[willow lion]

i have to loose mines today too

[willow lion]

what do u think the cutoff is for this season

10 loss?

[crystal tapir]

probably 9

idk

[willow lion]

scary

[slow heart]

last day match making should just be force mm the top 16 against each other

[gleaming parcel]

Maybe?
Idk.
I’m just doing some self reflecting and I really don’t know why I’m so emotional.
I’ve always been a heightened emotional person why feels my emotions way too intensely… Idk.

It’s just not fun to lose, but I really don’t know why losses affect me so much compared to just about everyone else

[slow heart]

might as well have knockout early :clueless

[crystal tapir]

fk i queued stall just for fun

got punished by hyper magic yelan

[slow heart]

I feel your pain

[crystal tapir]

closed list sucks

[slow heart]

I got run over by 2 jeht today as well

[crystal tapir]

always punished...

[safe plaza]

Tbh closed lists heighten the RNG factor

[crystal tapir]

the current meta is rng enough

[safe plaza]

Yeah

[crystal tapir]

i dont need more

[safe plaza]

I agree with you

Especially for KOs. I think it should be proper conquest

[slow heart]

closed deck list increase rng and these finaly yelan and hyper magic add even more rng deadge

[safe plaza]

Not closed deck no ban conquest

Because that's weird imo

[crystal tapir]

ban pls

yes

ban

open list

[willow lion]

ban fischl and gg half the playable decks gone

[crystal tapir]

issue is not fischl

[willow lion]

and then ban bennett gg the other half gone

[crystal tapir]

issue is not any character cards

issue is the magic engine

and jeht

all the power is in action cards rn not in character

[slow heart]

stall is always there

[willow lion]

fuck stall

[crystal tapir]

they roll double jeht

[gleaming parcel]

I’m too well known here now as the person who just complains here when I lose and “can’t take advice”
Even when I don’t see myself that way
(Because I can take advice when it’s given respectfully)
But My emotions get the better of me every time I lose and I get in my head

[crystal tapir]

is it over

so uhhh

can i top right ctg

[willow lion]

LOL

[gleaming parcel]

How even

[willow lion]

or mamere, but no one really carries mamere

[safe plaza]

I know what deck you're up against

And I felt the same way

LMAOOOOO

Didn't get triple jehtted though

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve seen quite a few of these actually

[willow lion]

😔

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve run into the companion repeat summons like crazy

[willow lion]

oh mirror

i think its over for me already

[safe plaza]

Good luck @hard vale

Kleesis

[willow lion]

what is this mulligan

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve seen a lot of magic engine too

[safe plaza]

It's very strong

Free dice

[crystal tapir]

the games just no fun when 1/4 of the time you are your opponent get free luck based win

[gleaming parcel]

I know.
I’m just.
Idk.
I’m contemplating if next tournament I want to completely throw out even playing characters I like just because I want to win, as much as I hate that

[crystal tapir]

some rng forces you to adapt

some rng just doesnt have counterplay

[willow lion]

r1 double totm

gg

[pearl fern]

Midrange surely the answer so you never lose so hard to triangle

[thick charm]

[rich wasp]

jeht shenhe sc

midrange is back

[gleaming parcel]

What does midrange even mean

[thick charm]

I didn't know Jeht copies other Jehts

maybe I need to make room for her

[crystal tapir]

even aggro and aggro down otk half the time

[pearl fern]

I think the other issue compared to like, an actual swiss open tourney is that you keep playing against the wide field

[thick charm]

in my bed

[pearl fern]

So the range of decks never shrink

Usually if you have a good read of the metagame and pick the right deck

[crystal tapir]

what makes you think midrange and kill otk fast enough

[gleaming parcel]

I’m so lost

[pearl fern]

Eventually you should win more based on %

But since it's just an open queue the ramge of decks you face never shrinks

Which makes it hard even if you correctly read the meta

Though on the last few days with less ppl the meta prob shrinks enough

[gleaming parcel]

Im what is mid range
Cause I just assumed it meant the decks that aren’t the best or aren’t the worst.
Decks that are in the middle range in terms of strength and win rate

[rich wasp]

no it means decks that have a mix of catalyst/bow and melee chars

[pearl fern]

I feel like midrange can leverage skill diff better because you van adapt your plan to MU whereas hard stall aggro are pretty polarized

[rich wasp]

long range is when the deck only have catalyst and bow chars

[safe plaza]

Lol

[rich wasp]

take finaly for example, its a long range deck

[pearl fern]

Midrange is between aggro and stall

In terms of speed and game plan

[thick charm]

im

so confused rn

[rich wasp]

just ignore me im trolling

[pearl fern]

So less aggro than aggro, but more aggro than stall

The decks tend to focus on value plays

[thick charm]

SI I would've literally believed you if you told me that midrange decks win if I yeet my cards out the window

[gleaming parcel]

I was gonna say, Don’t most decks have a mix of bow / catalyst and pole arm / sword characters

[thick charm]

[safe plaza]

The power SI holds

[slow heart]

misinformation

[gleaming parcel]

I still don’t even fully know what the difference is between aggro decks and combo decks

Because I thought aggro meant aggravate, like decks with dendro characters that focused on the elemental reaction of aggravate
But now that doesn’t seem true

[pearl fern]

If you want to pick up some basic stuff I can recommend my tcg101 vids - they're under 10 mins but can help if you really want to improve

[thick charm]

when your top player is called StupidIdiot and you heed his every word because he's a top player

eventually, you too can turn into a StupidIdiot

just not in the way you wanted

[rich wasp]

[willow lion]

its so over for me

[thick charm]

aggro is just short for aggressive

[willow lion]

ting got so much more tech

[gleaming parcel]

You’re fine mirai

[safe plaza]

Yeah I've recommended Blep's channel before, but I really think it's easier to learn with the resources he gives

[pearl fern]

If you have 10 mins I would recommend this https://youtu.be/ossdRfY7TOA

[willow lion]

im not fine

[pearl fern]

to explain archetypes

[slow heart]

Mirai you are at 5-6 lost u still in

[gleaming parcel]

But how does that differ from combo decks

[willow lion]

wdym

[gleaming parcel]

What makes a combo deck a combo deck

And not an aggro deck

[thick charm]

good question and I'd like the answer too

[slow heart]

will will probably make top 16

[gleaming parcel]

Because combos can be and are very aggressive in terms of game play

[willow lion]

hopefully

[thick charm]

but I guess that they squeeze extra dice out of tricky plays

when you're out of dice so they can do whatever they want to you 🤔

[safe plaza]

Top 16 been changing so much every day

[thick charm]

probably blep's vid explains it

[slow heart]

unless you lose all you match today and tommrow

[pearl fern]

just watch the vid

[safe plaza]

I wish I weren't traveling rn

[gleaming parcel]

Yes, you’ve reccomended that to me before

[pearl fern]

honestly I think the 101 series will help you improve faster than lurking here and having info thrown at you all the time

[safe plaza]

You are experiencing the same thing I do with lore

[crystal tapir]

@pearl fern are you gonna cast yourself in the finals this ctg?

[gleaming parcel]

I want to read the information

[pearl fern]

that's fair

[rich wasp]

well if he makes it he cant cast

[safe plaza]

Blep will have to move regions

Bye Blep

[pearl fern]

I wouldn't want to cast my own game anyway. They're still trying to make the broadcast feel 'live'

it would be really weird

[willow lion]

gg

i think i lost

[gleaming parcel]

Maybe, idk.
I don’t know what to do, but the more I lurk here and talk here the more I realize how much I don’t actually know about the game compared to everyone else here

[willow lion]

yeah i lost

[gleaming parcel]

You still have a high win rate though.

[safe plaza]

More vod review than casting at that point lol

[thick charm]

if it makes you feel better i know jack shit about the metagame

[crystal tapir]

sooooo whos gonna do the casting 🤔

[thick charm]

I just wanna play Noelle

[willow lion]

went from 18-2 to 21-6

[slow heart]

true why play meta when you can just play what you like

[thick charm]

I guess primogems are a good enough reason

[gleaming parcel]

Primos are the main reason I play this tournament

[twilit steppe]

What if meta decks is what I like

[thick charm]

my favorite pokemon is landorus therian

[slow heart]

i will play my deck against you

[night token]

I rank 69

[twilit steppe]

If it's DP then no thanks ❤️ 🙏

[night token]

I am happy

[safe plaza]

They might swap him with another region's caster

We haven't ran into that issue before

But it would be me and someone else probably

[gleaming parcel]

I prefer playing the decks and characters I like, but the more I play, the more I realize they aren’t really good.
So I have to not be myself and give up what I like if I stand any chance of winning

[thick charm]

that's just competitive games in a nutshell tho

[night token]

All hail the 69!

[thick charm]

also like play meta anyways

as a vehicle to understand why they're good

even if you don't really like them

and git gud enuf with them will probably make you gud at the game overall

so you can start having fun with more stuff

[gleaming parcel]

It’s not even competitive games, it’s anything that’s competitive.
I’m just tired of being in activities where you have to give up yourself and sacrifice yourself and be a cookie cutter in order to be the best at anything.

[thick charm]

there's a reason why cutting cookie dough with a knife isn't a really good idea vs using a cookie cutter

you might get a banger of a cookie if you cut it manually but it'll certainly take a lot more effort

or it might just suck

[willow lion]

botta go 0-4

getting omega high rolled on

[safe plaza]

You got this Mirai

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve just been a part of activities my whole life that just want you to be a shell. A robot. You “have” to be a certain way in order to be good or worth anything and I’m just tired of it

[willow lion]

ok 0-4 now

time to go 0-5?

[gleaming parcel]

Hey welcome to my life

[pearl glade]

queue now for free high roll (i play cope)

[pearl fern]

I know it's a joke but just keep in mind trying to coordinate queues and stuff is against the rules so best not to joke about it even

[pearl glade]

queue now for free donuts (who wants some??)

[pearl glade]

i havent had ctg queue this slow before

[pearl fern]

the leaderboard is scarily close though. No one is like, outright ahead of anyone else

[pearl glade]

this season is so weird

[pearl fern]

last hours of the day tend to be slow. Also if your record isn't super high, the majority of ppl queueing are prob leaderboard contender or close

so bot is prob trying NOT to match you into those lol

[pearl glade]

dang

[pearl fern]

asia/eu all have players at only 3 losses but NA is really packed

[wet bluff]

I reached 10 wins at least ahahaha

running my funny cube deck hee hee ho

[willow lion]

ok 5-0

i mean 0-5

[crystal tapir]

it just shows how highroll the game is rn...

unfortunately

[slow heart]

you are also 21-9

I thought i was doing better with the 5-0 yesterday but nah

[pearl glade]

i got my three wins !!

[pearl fern]

Congrats!

[gleaming parcel]

I think I just need someone to talk to about tcg FJDKSKSJD

Sorry I’m a mess FHDJSHD

[willow lion]

im on the edge of 16 now

nvm, out of 16 now

[frigid sundial]

Is it possible to speedrun 15 games tomorrow night

[slow mason]

yeah

probably not too hard

[pearl glade]

probably not

queue was slow today

prob same tomorrow

[frigid sundial]

I dont want to risk morning queue so hopefully it will be faster tomorrow

[twilit lodge]

na seems so chill

[gleaming parcel]

lol debatable

[twilit lodge]

would u like to experience asia? china?

[gleaming parcel]

Idk how it’s worse?
I think we have some over here

People who play in multiple servers

[pearl fern]

In theory cn players could be competing in any region, not just Asia

Since they have their own separate circuit anyway

[rich wasp]

really is

i enjoyed my 4 hour chill bullying session today

[pearl fern]

scary

[twilit lodge]

but theres so many in asia :ayawah:

[pearl fern]

prob the most there though yeah

[twilit lodge]

9 out of top 16 in asia is cn

[pearl fern]

CN can't qualify for the PC can it?

[gleaming parcel]

Eh??

[twilit lodge]

nope but they can for ctg top 16

[pearl glade]

Yeah na seems free asf

[supple marsh]

CN can't qualify for Showdown/Prince but what they can do is screwing up the points distribution

[pearl glade]

Oh interesting

[pearl fern]

mm yeah it prob leaves a lot of spots down to tiebreakers

[willow lion]

how do i come back from a 0-5

[crystal tapir]

huh?

fr?

[rotund lichen]

it's over

[safe plaza]

What happened to your LIA/TFT clan tag

[pearl fern]

I decided to advertise instead

[safe plaza]

I thought LIA was learners of invokation academy

[pearl fern]

it is, but everyone kept getting it confused with something else for some reason. Don't know why though, it's so obvious what it is

[safe plaza]

What could they possibly get it confused with smh

[pearl fern]

no idea

haven't a clue

[safe plaza]

Look I'm in the clan too

Tft and lia

[pearl fern]

some celebrity apparently

[safe plaza]

So pog

[safe plaza]

Celebrity?! Woah

[pearl fern]

I was never TFT either

[safe plaza]

Even SI has TFT tag

You and Ting are meanies

[raven fiber]

@pearl fern Your on the leaderboard, Time to switch to Pro gamer

[crystal tapir]

ting kleesis

[safe plaza]

I was 1 game off lb every day

Sadge

If only I didn't tilt day 2

[rich wasp]

thank you very cool

[pearl fern]

yeah really wish I had played seriously in the first day

2 very avoidable losses and that would have been a much safer securing of t16 than I am now

[safe plaza]

LMAO

[safe plaza]

I like how fast you switched into serious mode after day 2

[pearl fern]

I was just mad at myself

[safe plaza]

Glad you kept playing

Nah I feel that

[pearl fern]

and jade chamber

it was mostly jade chamber

[safe plaza]

Blep what are you gonna do if you make top 4

Am I gonna cast with someone else

[pearl fern]

i'll worry about it when it happens

[safe plaza]

I can't believe my co caster is going pro

[pearl fern]

it won't

[safe plaza]

I believe

[crystal tapir]

what if its lia vs blep in the finals

🤔

[subtle ibex]

can you delete like 2 or 3 lines of that at least so that our leaderboard doesn't look badge

[safe plaza]

Nah I'm 11 losses now so I give up

15-11

[crystal tapir]

ok fine

[safe plaza]

Actually 12 because I played one for fun and lost too LMAOOO

[subtle ibex]

lumine!

[crystal tapir]

how can i disguise myself 🤔

[subtle ibex]

maybe aether, since no one chooses him

[crystal tapir]

bro can you give me a hydro vision real quick 🙏

[subtle ibex]

sure https://canary.discord.com/channels/865768900662788107/971613875868954696

[crystal tapir]

:despairge

its joever

[twilit lodge]

beautiful

[supple marsh]

peak disguise imo

[twilit lodge]

u can change your name to glasse de fontaine

[crystal tapir]

youre too famous smh

[subtle ibex]

now you can be peak Gaming

[crystal tapir]

ah man its gonna take another 2 months to get hydro vision and another 3 to get dendro back

this was a mistake...

[twilit lodge]

flurrina de fontaine

[safe plaza]

Klee

[twilit lodge]

😭😭 im dying

[crystal tapir]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

[safe plaza]

Lmao

[crystal tapir]

ok i have no idea what this mora thing is in this server

but apparently i just spent 800 to reset and get the right vision

[pearl glade]

McFlurrina

[willow lion]

its over for me

[rose perch]

only takes 1 day of tilt to be over. yesterday I didnt use the talent card 2 times even though it was right there in my hand

[safe plaza]

Noooo Mirai

Man America leaderboard is really competitive this time

27-8 at the top is wild

[polar barn]

what happened to my nya

why are u furina main now

[polar barn]

woah

[rotund lichen]

should have been furinya

[night token]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-mcflurry-ice-cream-dessert-mcdonalds-mcflurry-gif-22575339

[safe plaza]

Good luck today everyone

[willow lion]

0-5 yesterday and 1-4 today

if i had went 2-3 i would have a slight chance

but everyone ive faced today are high up on the leaderboard and luck isnt on my side

[night token]

Yeah, my dice luck was very shit yesterday

[pearl glade]

I WILL HAVE ORDER !!! 🍔

I would like 1 @crystal tapir

And 2 @subtle ibex

[night token]

@pearl glade Here or to go?

[pearl glade]

To go please 🙏

[night token]

@pearl glade Here's your order!

[pearl glade]

Yay !!!

[safe plaza]

Dang 😦

[drowsy wharf]

time to try to win 3 games in 3.5 hours

college been screwing me in time OOF

[night token]

I defeated a gold player (yellow dragon spine card back)

[pearl glade]

Angela pro

[night token]

Nah bro, I just win for the primos

[drowsy wharf]

@ember heath saw u typing so sorry!

i clicked unconciouslu

[ember heath]

Don't worry haha

I was gonna say thanks also! Good game

[drowsy wharf]

yes yes! gg

one more to go and card back is all i want lolol

[ember heath]

I sent you a friend request, you were really nice to play against

[ember heath]

Go for it! I'm still missing 2

[drowsy wharf]

oh for sure ill accept it!

yep we got 2 more hours 🙂

[ember heath]

Yeah, it'll be a ride

But hopefully we both can get it c:

[drowsy wharf]

im sure will! next season im gonna need to get new cards tho haha

[ember heath]

Yeah, same haha

I have to get on the yeth train

Didn't have time to build a new deck for the tournament

[lunar ginkgo]

hello >< if the match in tournament is draw; how to report the result? ><

[ember heath]

What do you mean draw?

[lunar ginkgo]

we play reach round 15 and the game end its own ><

[tropic slate]

it's in the faq, hold n

on second thought no it isn't

The tournament rules vary, you can work it out with your opponent

[lunar ginkgo]

okie thank you @tropic slate

[tropic slate]

In some it's

1. if one player has more characters alive, that player wins
2. if both players have the same number of characters alive, then the player with the highest total combined HP across their characters wins

but also if your opponent doesn't agree to that you can /gicancel and go queue another game probably

or you could try playing a new game with different decks in a sudden death format, which is what some other tournaments do

if you and your opponent can't agree then the safest option is probably to just cancel the match and queue again

[desert grove]

Game-wise, I think it's considered a loss for both sides, but the tournament bot doesn't allow for that.

[tropic slate]

@sullen tapir do the qixing have a more definitive solution?