[America Server] Discussions

[tropic slate]

i'm 26

which i realize is basically 50 but

[wet bluff]

50 years old..... time flies....

cuz ur a birb

[gleaming parcel]

There are a lot of cards I don’t have and don’t have an interest in getting

[wet bluff]

[gleaming parcel]

You’re only a year older than me

[tropic slate]

for me it was the completionist thing, just did all the weeklies from the start and bought cards until i had them all

and then on to the skins

[safe plaza]

is there a reason why you're not interested in getting them?

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah I’m like that sometimes, I’m a completionist when I’m in the right mood

[tropic slate]

as of now I have all character card dynamic skins, all support card dynamic skins, and after next week's 6000 coins, all event card dynamic skins too

but I've only missed like 3000 coins since the tcg released in the first place

and idek where

[gleaming parcel]

Cause they aren’t characters i like? They aren’t teams I like playing in game or characters I don’t have in game or don’t want in game
Heck I had to get over my moral dilemma of even using Nahida cause I don’t have any archons in game and almost never pull for them Cause there is always a character I want more

[safe plaza]

hmmm

i see

[gleaming parcel]

and in terms of support cards, there are ccaeds I don’t have either because I don’t understand their game play or don’t feel it could be useful to my decks

[safe plaza]

would you be okay with picking one character you really want to build a deck around, and then using two characters you might not like as much?

[gleaming parcel]

I did that with Tighnari so I’d say yes, but it depends on the other characters

[wet bluff]

I have all event card dynamics, all but 1 support card dynamic, and i'm missing 18 equip dynamics, and 22 character dynamics

[tropic slate]

it's because i'm such a completionist that I'll always be eternally salty that I didnt make the first prince cup

it's not about the money, don't care about the money

[wet bluff]

f

[tropic slate]

it's about the cardback that I will never have

[gleaming parcel]

like I refuse to let Fischl or raiden or zhongli anywhere near my decks

[wet bluff]

based and cardback pilled

[tropic slate]

unless they give it to the next prince cup partciipant

which is why I'm so driven to get there

[wet bluff]

BIRDIE YOU AND ME BOTH

i also really want the cardback lmao

[tropic slate]

copium

[livid thunder]

mah card back

where did it go

[safe plaza]

yae and sara are decent substitutes for fischl

[livid thunder]

[wet bluff]

i'll have to be the underdogcat af to get there though

[gleaming parcel]

I like using Yae, but a lot of people frown on using her and just swear by Fischl

[safe plaza]

it's because fischl has electro application when she casts her Oz

and yae doesn't

in that case, you could use Sara

[gleaming parcel]

Yeahnflsksjshsns

[livid thunder]

yae is still good though

[wet bluff]

yee, Sara does the funny as well

[gleaming parcel]

ehhhhhh

[safe plaza]

yes, it just depends on the deck itself

[gleaming parcel]

her shirt doesn’t make sense to me

[wet bluff]

people say alhaitham is bad but i got my butt kicked by one earlier

[gleaming parcel]

People kinda hate on any dendro team now

[safe plaza]

do you have a list of characters you're interested in playing?

[wet bluff]

one of my og decks is a dendro team with cube lmao

[safe plaza]

beidou al-haitham is pretty good atm

not the best, but it's OK

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah I don’t have beidou

[summer epoch]

I'm not sure if someone answered this already but was last season's card backing send out?

[gleaming parcel]

More or less yeah

[wet bluff]

not yet

[gleaming parcel]

The primos were, but the card back hasn’t been sent yet

[wet bluff]

card back gaming

[safe plaza]

what are they?

[gleaming parcel]

There are a couple characters I’d be interested in playing but haven’t played yet / don’t have yet

[safe plaza]

or maybe a couple of them?

[wet bluff]

honestly yeah though i'm of the opinion that if ur goal is the card back just grab that then don't stress too much

[safe plaza]

i do think it's important to separate your wish to win with your wish for your TCG decks fitting certain aesthetics, yeah

[wet bluff]

mmhmm

[gleaming parcel]

Tighnari, Ayato, Thoma, Kazuha, Yae, Nahida, childe, diluc, baizhu, Lyney, Cyno, xiao, itto, alhaitham
To name a few
And some supports like Xingqiu and xiangling of course

[summer epoch]

Oh okay thank you

[safe plaza]

hmmm

what are your thoughts on barbara and layla?

there is a deck floating around this patch that is Childe Freeze Stall

[gleaming parcel]

Ehhhh don’t love it, don’t hate it
I think I struggled to beat Barbara and don’t have her card though
And I don’t have Layla either

[safe plaza]

stall decks might be difficult to start out with

but it should beat decks like FiNaLy

[pearl fern]

honestly yae nahida lyney as a finaly variant is probably fine enough

[safe plaza]

you think?

i feel like it would be sara, not yae

[pearl fern]

it's definitely not as good but it's serviceable

[gleaming parcel]

I tried that but really struggled with it

[safe plaza]

it's because fischl is really important in that deck

fischl is a very strong card

overall

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah she can get yeeted into the sea

[gleaming parcel]

I’m still open to playing with you btw

[safe plaza]

i can play a couple games now, but i have to get to work really soon

[gleaming parcel]

Okay! Just let me know

my uid is 635932231

[safe plaza]

i'm AR 50

full friends list but you can req to join my world!

615379182

[gleaming parcel]

I’m ar 60 lol

[night token]

Function over Beauty

[safe plaza]

#1073554428474437743

best QOL update ever

[tropic slate]

wait they actually did it?

no way

[pearl fern]

I guess edits don't ping so that works

[twilit steppe]

Omg that is amazing

[slow mason]

oh damn

nice

[terse drum]

Lmfaooo

[tropic slate]

rip lol

typical morning queue

[terse drum]

well I lost lol

gonna try again

[willow lion]

wtf no one is 10-0

[supple marsh]

i love sbmm

[willow lion]

what's sbmm

[supple marsh]

skill-based matchmaking

[willow lion]

still

it used to be a few 10-0 on day 2

[tropic slate]

AS has a 10-0

[willow lion]

a bunch of them too

wait nvm its just 1

im halucinating

[terse drum]

how many matches a person can play maximum?

[slow mason]

35 technically

If you play no games until sunday

[teal crag]

go for it than

[willow lion]

i cant cuz i already lost

[ancient spindle]

I can

[teal crag]

surely i xan

[ancient spindle]

But ya guys need to give 10 free wins

[terse drum]

so if someone loses for one time, they cannot play again right?

[pine heron]

You can match someone twice

[terse drum]

oh great

then I can play one more time

[lucid sable]

Why does nobody show any sportspamship anymore

Not even a glhf or a gg

Just in and out

[willow lion]

bro

i literally said gg in your world

😭

[lucid sable]

NOT YOU I SAW DW

But like

[willow lion]

oh

[lucid sable]

I did 4 matches today

and only you and one other said stuff

[terse drum]

maybe the guy had a rough day lol

[willow lion]

i always say gg

[lucid sable]

the others just came in beat my ass and left

[willow lion]

😭 😭 😭 😭

it be like that

[lucid sable]

as one should

sportsmanship = gud

even if I lose

[willow lion]

the only time i dont say gg is when i get fucked over by dice AND mulligan

cuz it aint gg

[lucid sable]

Mood

[willow lion]

😭

[lucid sable]

Then its just wp

better tahn

"XXXX has joined the world"
"XXXX has left the world"

nothing in between

no context

[teal crag]

i don't too

im tired of it

tons of games

just do it fast

[lucid sable]

Still just a courtesy

No effort just to “glhf” “ggwp”

[teal crag]

it takes effort

i can't be bothered

well i do say it if the opponent is familiar

[tropic slate]

for the record I play on console and it does take actual effort to type these using the onscreen keyboard

that said I do it anyway

[terse drum]

that's fair

[lucid sable]

No totally fair

I don’t speak in game lol

I do in the thread thing

[sick blaze]

Me still writing "you played so good" and similar stuff

[lucid sable]

My Silky

[sick blaze]

[terse drum]

@sick blaze I heard you lost too
so we can match one more time with each other

I will probably be worse

[sick blaze]

We can match if you play eu server

[terse drum]

that sucks-

I play on US servers and TW servers

[sick blaze]

Yeah, I play only EU in ctg, so we can't play agsinst each other

But good luck in your future games anyway ^^

[terse drum]

Thnx buddy

[night token]

I am ready to lose!

https://tenor.com/view/weesnaw-spongebob-seahorse-gif-27547923

[twilit steppe]

Me too

[shadow thorn]

is the match quota 15 for today?

I havent been paying attention 😔

[slow star]

@wet bluff mind confirming the result?

[pearl fern]

we're on second half day 2 so it's 10

[wet bluff]

oh fuck i am so sorry

i got to talk to my roomate and forgor so i was AFK for a sec

[slow star]

all good :)

[smoky solar]

We still only need 3 wins for the cardback right?

[gleaming parcel]

Yes

[inner dagger]

What should i do if My oponnent doesn't finish the Match?

[pearl fern]

The answer to most issues with matches is modmail

[inner dagger]

In contact qixing?

[pearl fern]

Yeah

[slow star]

take a screenshot of the duel replay, open modmail at #📨contact-qixing with reason 9, cat's tail gathering inquiry

[iron cairn]

is it just me or does mm take way longer than last tournament

[gleaming parcel]

Lost 4/5 games today.
Currently 1/10 in terms of wins.
Still no card back.
Still think 3 wins is too easy?

[rose perch]

probably since a 3/10 score right now is ranked like 100 something that means 100 people got the card back

[crystal tapir]

its easy in the sense that there is no known case of someone playing 35 games and not getting the cardback

so it really just depends on how much you want it ig

[twilit steppe]

I have exactly 50% winrate right now, 4 of my losses are purely from skill issue too not even from unluckiness at all uh hopefully I will do better tomorrow

[iron cairn]

finally beat that annoying ass fischl, nahida, lyney team!!

[pliant otter]

I was surprised nothing in that line up got touched in the 4.4 updates.

[safe plaza]

same

[crystal tapir]

yall are coping with finaly meanwhile i just queued a finaly counter 🤔

[pliant otter]

A deck having a bad match up or two doesn't change the fact that it has average strong match ups into a diverse field.

[crystal tapir]

its not actually as strong as you might think it is

just very easy to pilot compared to other decks making it appear extremely strong among most players

good? yes
op? no

[pliant otter]

It never fails to make me chuckle that no matter how many different card games I play the same discussion points get rehashed by countless different players.

[crystal tapir]

and also it did get nerfed this patch slightly though many other decks did as well

the removal of stove greatly decreased the possibility of 3 actions round 2 for finaly

[pearl fern]

yeah technically stove did turn it down but it also did the same for a lot of the other decks too

[crystal tapir]

most other decks dont depend on it as much

but yea stove is a overall nerf for almost everything technically

but we talk to scale here

[night token]

My luck in who I match w/ gets shittier and shittier

[pearl fern]

I mean the term OP gets thrown around too often/easily for my liking but it's almost undeniably the best deck. But there'll always be a best deck

[crystal tapir]

^^

[pliant otter]

Really wish the pairing system in this event wouldn't put you into the same opponent twice in the same day.

[pearl fern]

haha that might be nice bit of feedback

[stiff crypt]

What's finaly counter?

[crystal tapir]

the one that goes bonk bonk

[twilit steppe]

Ningguang Barbara Kokomi that is played well I think

[pearl fern]

yeah usually stall, but stall has the issue in CTG of making your 5 games a day take longer

[stiff crypt]

[pearl fern]

it's prob just barbara specifically that's the counter

cuz if finaly does the usual fischl into nahida, you can just like swap twice, barbara skill and ramp

and cleanse all the electro

[crystal tapir]

Stop leaking the sauce smh

[pearl fern]

hahaha

educator before competitor

[rose perch]

cleanse the dendro so they enemy can bomb you

[shadow thorn]

is mew not good anymore

i havent seen anyone play it

[pearl fern]

was it ever good

[safe plaza]

that's how i feel

[safe plaza]

it's fine, but people are taking joyous more often

and joyous is really good into mew

there's just better decks

[shadow thorn]

idk i just saw it used in that one asia tourney often and assumed it was meta

but that makes sense

[pearl fern]

it was kinda meta, but it also had like a 30% WR in that tourney or something atrocious

[misty harness]

is anyone running jeht engine or was it really copium after all? haven't seen anyone use it yet

[willow lion]

@tropic slate is that u

[tropic slate]

yes

[willow lion]

gl

[tropic slate]

u2

[safe plaza]

i just faced you

[willow lion]

u did

[safe plaza]

ggwp

[willow lion]

and i had a stroke by not using bennett talent

[safe plaza]

LMAO

i misplayed a couple times

i tuned WGS

LMAOOO

[willow lion]

as soon as i pressed bennett ult without using the card i just semi gave up

cuz its joever

@tropic slate gg

wait summon cant proc pyro resonance card right

[tropic slate]

gg wp

no, summon cannot proc pyro res

that said, the turn i floated four I could actually have ended the game if I wasn't an idiot

[willow lion]

ok good i thought i was tweaking

[tropic slate]

I thought I didn't have enough dice but forgot I had gambler's

wait wdym without using the card

you did use the card right?

[willow lion]

i didnt

[tropic slate]

I could have sworn you used the card

[willow lion]

i didnt

i had it and i was thinking if it does proc or not

and i went with nah it wont proc

im gonna be tweaking for the entire night if i find out it can so i had to make sure

[tropic slate]

is this the deck you've been playing so far

[willow lion]

no

i just made it like 20 min ago

adjusting it

im not good with it if u cant tell 💀

[tropic slate]

it

is a deck i'm scared of because idk what to do if it highrolls against me

so i'm trying to use it and see how i lose, if there are good strats

but i keep not losing except by lowroll

so it isnt helping

[willow lion]

im scared of this deck too thats why im picking it up to see how its played normally 💀

this and double hydro

[tropic slate]

double hydro is easy, you just pick combo and build up infinite dice to combo them down

or pick aggro and snipe their carry

basically just wait for them to make a mistake

usually happens around round 5-7, if you can hold out until then

[willow lion]

i got ptsd after i went finaly into nyahida's double hydro ning

it aint fun

i was held hostage for half an hour just to loose

[tropic slate]

we call that one 'life sentence'

[willow lion]

theres like no way to win finaly into hydro ning if hydro ning knows what theyre doiung

theres just no way

[tropic slate]

that is mostly true, you need to line up a perfect set of circumstances

thankfully they do give you time to do so

my solution ideally would be to build lyney up to three stacks, and then spend a while on nahida to spread dendro and/or get a bloom core

and then, as soon as they give you an opening, fast swap tandoori bloom-core lyney skill for 10 base damage, more if you're doing a reaction

which, if you've been keeping pressure up, should be enough to eat through ningguang

and then you pray that they don't have barbara burst -> egg ready

[pearl glade]

Not good for ctg

[night token]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-of-prey-bird-superhero-gif-15586302

[tropic slate]

no

[crystal tapir]

Everyone is coping that ls beats finaly

In reality its like a 40 60 matchup maybe

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805662532354048060/1192856149297471488/1096961646053826700.gif

[raven fiber]

Hmm its like 50:50 for me, they just don't switch up their gameplan

[polar barn]

ls is mid

[rose perch]

doesn't it literally depend on if you get tenacity or mini tenacity round 1 or 2

[polar barn]

it just depends on opponents highroll and if he
tricks u into unconventional lines which makes it harder to cleanse

but mostly finaly players are brian dead

[rose perch]

sometimes you also just dont have hydro dice and you end up doing nothing

[night token]

Seahorse is a nightmare for summons that attack

[polar barn]

yeah

[night token]

No use beating up the horse alive w/ summons

https://tenor.com/view/dungeong-gif-17752083463442020855

[twilit steppe]

Oh I didn't knew.. I must've been a bad Finaly pilot

Or the LS players I met are always good

[willow lion]

nyahida only saying that cuz nyahida plays LS and wants to make finaly player cope thinking there's hope

[twilit steppe]

Oh I see..

[pine heron]

This is Nth time I'm seeing nyahida change his opinion on this regard

[crystal tapir]

It was always between 40 60 and 50 50 wdym

Never thought it was a polarizing one

[crystal tapir]

i played more finaly than ls smh

[shadow thorn]

Whose in ls 😔

[pine heron]

Ning barb kok

[shadow thorn]

Oh

That team..

[arctic valve]

the only problem against LS, is to hope his player doesnt highroll, or youre up for 30+ mins of hopeless struggle

2x totm + agh r1 and you can go cry on a corner

[sick blaze]

If they not highroll you still lose anyway

With quite many decks that just can't break through stall

[arctic valve]

if he doesnt highroll, you have a decent chance if youre with finaly or yelan otk or a bennet magic deck

[arctic valve]

and thats why i have been so loud for a totm + agh nerf, or new cards for aggro decks

[thick charm]

man I've really been out of it, skipped two days so far

im gonna have to try really hard to catch up

or maybe just not, no harm in signing up and not showing up right it's a hectic week but I'll probably still try to get some games in

[pearl glade]

3 wins for a card back

[rose perch]

great another cheater with an alt account

[willow lion]

i got someone like that earlier too

[rose perch]

i am so sick of it. they just play fischl nahida if they get a few loses they move on to the next alt account so unfair bunch of brought accounts

[cursive viper]

i dont think they have more accounts on one server its just from another region that wants to play there

[rose perch]

no i know for a fact if they have a bad run day 1 or 2 they just start over

[cursive viper]

then you can just win against them since they dont seem to be that good then

[twilit steppe]

Yeah if these people get 2 or 3 loss in a day often, they probably are not super expert player (like me )

[rose perch]

you act like you never get a loss. if you go 5-0 on day 1 and 2 you are pretty much for sure going to be top 16. sometimes flukes happen or mix dice. There no reason for them to ruin the whole tournament run when they got unlucky with 2 loss on day 1

[pearl fern]

if you have proof you can take it to modmail - alting in the same region I think is against the rules. Otherwise if they're actually buying the accounts they're griefing themselves because the accounts prob cost more than what they're winning

[cursive viper]

i think 2 loss on day 1 are not as bad as you might think

[pearl fern]

I started 1-3 so demoralized

[willow lion]

NA is doing worse than ever this season it appears like

[pearl fern]

playing on tilt/autopilot not recommended

I don't hang out in the other chats so who knows. Honestly EU should have it the worst

[crystal tapir]

even the best na player started 1-3 😔

[willow lion]

just lost to some japanese guy 😔

[twilit steppe]

I agree, also farming for needed cards in TCG is not done in short time so they're also wasting a lot of their time if that is the case

[willow lion]

it was so close but ihly killed me

[crystal tapir]

mind if i ask who?

[willow lion]

theyre on the lb

[safe plaza]

LIA clan unite

[willow lion]

this guy

[safe plaza]

our professor is on the leaderboard @pearl fern

[willow lion]

10th

[slow heart]

Does Tavern require 2 factor authentication?

or a discord account with phone number link to it

[willow lion]

authenticating for what

oh

[slow heart]

idk

[willow lion]

nah it doesnt

[cursive viper]

wait since when did you join

[willow lion]

all u need is uid and u can register

💀

[slow heart]

to prevent people from creating ult

[safe plaza]

i want to be a learner of invokation academy

[cursive viper]

[crystal tapir]

some rando ruined my record i wonder who it might be 🤔

[wet bluff]

i am doing bad

but

i have the funniest stats

https://i.gyazo.com/a3ad336134817748f2b15962b1315d9b.png

[shadow thorn]

youre the real winner

[twilit steppe]

I think you did good against me or maybe I played that bad

[wet bluff]

naw i'm getting cooked and i swapped to my double cube cope deck to have fun and not just be FiNaLy player #536

[willow lion]

i'm doing pretty good this season

SO FAR

[wet bluff]

do i just go back to FiNaLy lmfao

[willow lion]

play yelan OTK instead

gg

[wet bluff]

i mean there's no shot i'm breaking even top 32 at this rate but

[willow lion]

hear me out

[wet bluff]

I am lmao

[willow lion]

just go from 6-9 to 26-9

[wet bluff]

lol

[crystal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/cooooot-coooooot-be-bop-beeeeeeeesbooobee-gif-24860505

[shadow thorn]

Genius

[wet bluff]

real

[shadow thorn]

I just need to lock in

[wet bluff]

either way

i accept i am not as good as top players
i just am not willing to play the meta decks augh

and that is an inherent flaw

i'll just be funny with my weird deck

[willow lion]

who beat u

[crystal tapir]

guess from username

[willow lion]

oh

[crystal tapir]

@willow lion want to play a few for fun

i bored

[willow lion]

i can't rn

i gotta eat and go to gym

[crystal tapir]

gimme uid we play tmrl

[willow lion]

[slow mason]

so if I beat blep and blep beat you then leoric > nyahida but you beat me so nyahida > blep

[crystal tapir]

:))

[willow lion]

609662669

[crystal tapir]

maybe its RPS game after all 🤔

[willow lion]

i gotta go talk to my prof tmr too so idk when i'll be on

[crystal tapir]

thats a ar 5

[willow lion]

wait

609882669

[crystal tapir]

:kleesis

[gleaming parcel]

Guess who is 3 days in and still no card back

[rose perch]

show us your deck

[gleaming parcel]

No, I’m not revealing myself. that’s cheating

[rose perch]

ok just say 1 character in that deck

[gleaming parcel]

Nahida

[rich wasp]

3.6 deck

[rose perch]

You are probably getting greedy and using the hold E. Try to apply more aura and build up ur burst

[pearl fern]

put in jade chamber, fav library, wangshu and cathedral. I lost to that on yelan otk, trust

cut all that chaff

[gleaming parcel]

Wdym by hold e?

[pearl fern]

they mean 5 cost

most nahida decks these days aren't using her 5 cost much

they'd much rather skill/skill/burst

[gleaming parcel]

okay

[pearl fern]

it kinda depends on the deck though

before in the era of Nahida Oceanid Fischl I think that deck went for 5 cost more, but because it leaned less on burst

I think decks these days go greedy on cutting fixing so getting 5 dendro is a challenge

and so they're built to make better use of 3cost/3cost/burst

[gleaming parcel]

I used this deck last season and I was fine…

Someone said “no one has ever played 35 games and never gotten the card back”
Yeah watch that be me.

I still don’t know what to do.

[pearl fern]

That's not how it works it's triangle, so nyahida > you makes sense

rock paper scissors

[pearl fern]

the competition feels even harder this time around. The other point here is that the meta hasn't shifted much since last version, which means more players are going to be "up to date" with the meta and a larger % are playing the 'best' decks in the format

last season not everyone was as up to date on the meta and you were probably more likely to run into some random decks using new chars that weren't optimized

[rose perch]

just more alt bots

[pearl fern]

so the deck may not be any worse, but the decks being played around you are no doubt better

[gleaming parcel]

I guess. Idk. I’m just upset and idk what to do.
I can’t even copy deck codes into my game if someone makes a deck for me

[pearl fern]

you need to figure out realistic goals. If you just want the card back then you can and should take an existing tournament decklist and play that until you get your wins

[rose perch]

dont play on ps4. it is slower and you have less time to think

[pearl fern]

but trying to play an off-meta deck when you yourself have said you don't have time to practice and get better and expect to do well doesn't feel realistic

[gleaming parcel]

Well I don’t have the ability to play on anything else

[pearl fern]

I talked about this a bit in a recent vid, but in a lot of other TCGs you can kinda get there on random decks just based on card RNG.

There aren't any cards in GITCG that wildly swing a matchup and win you the game on the spot. So it's a lot harder against savvy opponents to actually win, and it's closer to chess

[gleaming parcel]

my computer and phone can’t handle genshin so I play on console. And it’s kind of elitist of you to just casually dismiss that possibility for people

[rose perch]

not really. Just stating a fact that you might be at a disadvantage playing on it for tcg. You keep complaining these are probably some reasons.

[pearl fern]

that's such a weird optimization to look at though

[crystal tapir]

issok i can play ps4 and still cook blep all day :kleevil

[gleaming parcel]

So my option is to what, dish out 1000+ $for a new computer or phone to play genshin tcg?

[thick charm]

I mean I'd love if Coryn didn't take it as a personal attack or smth but let's be real, what do you actually gain for not playing the TCG on PS4

[crystal tapir]

maybe first step is changing your attitude and stop assuming every little comment is attacking you yea?

[wet bluff]

i think the ps4 thing is a minor issue tbh

[thick charm]

like for the side game of farming artifacts sure the PS4 is majorly annoying with load times but uhhh tcg?

[wet bluff]

like obviously if you have no phone or pc ps4 is workable

[thick charm]

hey guys remember when this game was coming to switch

[wet bluff]

[gleaming parcel]

It just feels kinda of dumb to say that my ps4 is the entire reason why I’m losing

[rose perch]

it is also kind dumb to constantly complain and then be defensive when people offer suggestions

[wet bluff]

I think the reason ur losing is lack of fundamentals and lack of wanting to share stuff that would help us help you

[pearl fern]

the ps4 thing was kinda out of left field

[thick charm]

PS4 genshrek is cheeks but honestly once it loads after you graduate from law school and humanity sets foot on mars it plays more or less just as well as every other version

[gleaming parcel]

Well it’s hard not to be defensive when the suggestion is to just buy a new computer or phone to play genshin on something besides a console

It’s extremely eletist and rich-privileged

[crystal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[rose perch]

not really i have experience with it. it is slower. Especially if i want to think for hard stall match up I might run out of time. The card selection is harder and when I want to use certain dice but not others like for cases with liben it is harder

[wet bluff]

also this feels weird to say, is that a rule?

if so i didn't know

i think the constant wanting to hide ur deck isn't good

[thick charm]

Coryn dear could you not take everything as an actual personal attack with the worst intention possible

[wet bluff]

EVERYONE knows meta and everyone plays meta

[thick charm]

ps4 comment was dumb but just brush it off the dude isn't saying that you're a hobo for not having a nasa computer

[wet bluff]

so us knowing whatever your home cooked deck is isn't gonna hurt at all

it's not like people are gonna run something to counter you specifically

[rose perch]

faced another fishcl nahida alt bot

[gleaming parcel]

but people generally say not to reveal your deck because then they know what you’re playing and what deck to use

[thick charm]

not a rule btw sure you're shooting yourself in the foot by revealing information but like, what are the odds I run exactly against you on queue
ApCwyRkNABCQ0YgNCVBw1ZcTCXDQ250PE2AB/TAQE4FBCDQQE/FhDzYRDAEgTcIUDNAA

[wet bluff]

there are 500+ people playing and most are running FiNaLy

[thick charm]

if you're having trouble you're actually better off sharing your deck and asking for advice

if you're at the bottom, nowhere to go but up

btw not (necessarily) asking for advice just saying it's not a big deal

plus everyone here that knows me knows I'll try to shove Noelle everywhere

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah I did met 9 Finaly players out of 15 matches

[gleaming parcel]

Im just bothered because I used this deck last season and did well,
but now it’s not
I thought I should be doing better this season compared to last but I’m doing worse

[thick charm]

well meta caught up like Blep said

[wet bluff]

reason is that everyone has caught up with the meta and know more about the decks being used

[tropic slate]

this is false, as someone who has played on ps4

tcg has absolutely no performance issues on ps4

[wet bluff]

also everyone knows the stronger decks so a lot of people aren't running homebrewed decks

[thick charm]

last season I was running deck from previous previous version so I did like ass because I wasn't enlightened to Gilded Dreams

now this season uhhhhhh

[rose perch]

not performance, control issues

[tropic slate]

control is better, in fact

since you can use buttons for stuff directly

[thick charm]

I haven't had much time to play and I'm already 0-2 to stall loss so yea, and I think I'm done for the night

[tropic slate]

none of this "I meant to tune and accidentally played" nonsense

[thick charm]

also yea I tried playing GITCG on mouse when I was having breakfast once and it was cring

[wet bluff]

this happened to me during one of my matches and i lost because of it lmfao

[gleaming parcel]

Well clearly not everyone

[thick charm]

you don't need to be frame perfect playing your cards lmao

[twilit steppe]

Omg really? I personally thought it is confusing.. maybe it is skill issue on my part

[cursive viper]

bad list madge

[wet bluff]

in a general sense, you know what i mean

i don't mean literally everyone lmao

but a large majority

[thick charm]

you have more than enough time in a turn to think and play your cards, taking 0.000001 microseconds longer with mouse or controller or DK bongos isn't gonna make a difference

[wet bluff]

and you can see that again
so much FiNaLy

[nocturne kestrel]

good old days

[tropic slate]

once you are used to the buttons it's so much easier

tune is triangle, play is x

there is no ambiguity

end turn is just hold circle, perfectly simple

[thick charm]

it's nice that they're in the polar opposite of the diamond too, absolutely no way to fat finger it

[crystal tapir]

still works in rmm can confirm

win streaking rn

[twilit steppe]

Oh I see.. maybe I am really just not used to it then haha

[gleaming parcel]

I tried on phone once and it was incredibly confusing, and I didn’t know how to do the things I did on console and there wasn’t a way to access the information I needed to see how to play

[tropic slate]

d-pad to select cards, r1 to quickly jump to skills or l1 to jump to cards

[twilit steppe]

Is that AOC or

[cursive viper]

[thick charm]

you could use stick but dpad is really nice for the tcg

[crystal tapir]

rmm

[thick charm]

it just works well since the game is basically competitive menuing

[crystal tapir]

ah fk its binzu

maybe i lose this

[thick charm]

anyway I should play the side game a bit to spend resin and go sleep

[twilit steppe]

Oh wow maybe I should try it then

[sullen walrus]

I just looked at ld and thought Blep will retire from casting and play competitively

[gleaming parcel]

@thick charm the deck I’m using is the one I crafted last season, it hasn’t really changed

[crystal tapir]

wait real? @pearl fern

[thick charm]

try to adapt Gilded Dreams engine into it Coryn

[sullen walrus]

but it is you

[gleaming parcel]

I can’t.

[sullen walrus]

[thick charm]

you can if you try hard enough

[crystal tapir]

:pitawtf

[gleaming parcel]

not with the characters I’m using. Gilded dreams needs 3 different character types to be the best.

and I have 2 of the same type.

[thick charm]

correct, need to try harder

just grab one that works kinda the same but is different color

or whip out an old friend

[gleaming parcel]

but no one works the same as what I’m doing, changing the characters, even one of them means I’d have to change my deck entirely

[thick charm]

that's not a bad thing though?

if the deck isn't working then to the bin it goes

remind me, what characters are we talking about?

[misty harness]

I just got the luckiest draw ever. I'm afraid of going outside now, I think I may get hit by lightning now.

[thick charm]

roll gacha to neutralize your luck

[gleaming parcel]

I guess but… I like the deck im using. I like the characters and I know how to play the deck and I can do it well, and I put a lot of time into building the deck… i don’t like the idea of just throwing it into the trash
Because that’s throwing all my hard work to throw it in the trash

[misty harness]

... or worse, I may draw bricked cards and dice next duel. actually I may just go outside and get hit by the lightning.

[thick charm]

well that happens in competitive games that get updates

[gleaming parcel]

And even if I build a new deck from scratch, I have no idea where to start it who to use or anything like that

[thick charm]

there's a lot of characters with reasonable overlap so you don't actually need to start from scratch. Again, which characters were we talking about?

[gleaming parcel]

Ehhh idk if there are characters with reasonable overlap based on what people talk about

[thick charm]

hey isn't this bush beaten enough?

who do you use :)

[gleaming parcel]

I’m scared of sharing my deck here though

[thick charm]

ok that's just paranoid

[rose perch]

then stop responding to us sheesh so much spam

[thick charm]

also I'm literally just asking for the characters

[gleaming parcel]

Not for the cheating thing, I’m scared of being made fun of

[thick charm]

honestly not to sound like I'm trying to gaslight you or anything like that but a lot of the things you say about how people treat you are very much just in your head >_>

[shadow thorn]

Just watch a recent tourney or yt guide for newer cards, it’ll help you get a better understanding of the meta and what teams are good

[gleaming parcel]

Im just worried I’ll share my characaters and be told “oh yeah that’s why you suck so much”

[thick charm]

would you rather have people point and laugh (like that ever happens when someone is asking for genuine advice???) or keep losing because you have no idea what you're doing wrong/how the meta has changed tho

[stiff crypt]

I wish I could start over
I got 0-3 on the first day

[gleaming parcel]

It happens a lot in genshin, every time I share builds or teams or decks I get told why what I’m doing sucks and I get told all the reason what I’m doing is bad and it makes me feel really bad about myself
Even if it’s something I’m proud of, it’s never good enough according to meta or “game standards” based on what people say

[stiff crypt]

Still better than me

I start with 0-3
I already lost hope on the first day

Then, somehow I got 10-2

[thick charm]

ok but are they actively shitting on you as a person or trying to give advice

[gleaming parcel]

But not all advice is given the same way
You can give advice to people without telling them how they’re horrible

(Not saying you do that, but some people don’t give advice well)

[thick charm]

and as we've seen that happens super often here in the tavern, everyone treats people like garbage right

like I'm gonna be direct here, the genshrek community is very much ass overall but this place, even if just this forum thread, is alright

[rose perch]

I dunno coryn been passively aggressive insulting all of us here. Claiming we are certain types of people, calling us elitist and suggesting we are horrible

[thick charm]

sucks that you don't feel comfortable enough here to ask for advice, but when you come saying that you're not doing so hot in the season and have people willing to give advice and you being unwilling to help them help you it just drags on and drains everyone

[thick charm]

also that that's just how they are :P
Certainly helps as well

[gleaming parcel]

people haven’t really given much advice though, besides apparently buying a new gaming device and reading cards

[rose perch]

see he is indirectly insulting me again

when i literally did nothing but make suggestions

[gleaming parcel]

I’m not a male.

[stiff crypt]

Why?

[rose perch]

i cant see you this is the internet not being offended by everything

[gleaming parcel]

and spending thousands of dollars on a new gaming device isn’t really a suggestion

[thick charm]

again Coryn I'm not sure I can phrase it any softer but you really make the biggest mountains out of molehills and then everyone ends up bashing their head against the wall

[crystal tapir]

smh even the people who sugarcoats the most have finally came to reality

:worrypat

[gleaming parcel]

I know, and it’s an issue I only have here and I don’t know how to Undo it

I don’t know how to undo the trust issue I have or undo the feeling that asking for help means I’m being subject to criticism and being told I suck

[thick charm]

9o_o6 made a weird suggestion half an hour ago, just let it go and move forward with the convo and make it productive it's not that big a deal

[slow heart]

Coryn I got a question for you

[crystal tapir]

you cant undo it but you definitely can change for the better

the one who chooses is yourself

[rose perch]

All i said was maybe ps4 could be the problem. For me it was. When I use phone or pc I have a better tcg experience. It is 2024 if you dont have a phone. I think maybe getting a video game card back is the least of your problems.

[tropic slate]

i can guarantee, as a top player who uses playstation, ps4 is not a problem

[willow lion]

yes thats what improving feels like

you get criticized

[gleaming parcel]

I also never said I don’t have a phone, just that my phone doesn’t handle genshin well.

[willow lion]

thats how life works

[slow heart]

Why do you feel like the advise people are giving you is criticizing you, and this might be me but isn't being criticize a good thing? since it help you improve

[thick charm]

dude I get it, being told that what you were doing isn't as great as you think it was kinda sucks

but it's better than being blissfully unaware of the succ and keep failing without any direction

[gleaming parcel]

I mentioned it earlier, but criticism is broad. People don’t always give criticism in a helpful or kind way.
If I say “this is what I’m using.”
And someone says “well no wonder you suck” it doesn’t help and it’s demoralizing

[crystal tapir]

who said that xD

[thick charm]

now whether you wanna ask for people on what you could change or whether you wanna face the results with dice and cardboards it's gonna come sooner or later

[crystal tapir]

you can just ignore them anyways

[willow lion]

youve never told anyone what u use

[gleaming parcel]

Because I’m scared of that happening again, of being made fun of for the cards I use

[slow heart]

hmm

[iron cairn]

you want us t fix a car we cant see or inspect

[slow heart]

i think it is important to know what you want to get out of this tournament

[rose perch]

I find it funny. that when I search suck. This comes up. But it is out of context she didn't mean it.

[slow heart]

like how important to you is getting 3 win compare to sticking to your original deck choice

[gleaming parcel]

Please don’t call me she.

[crystal tapir]

it feels to me like you are looking for internet therapy more than actual advice
and are just craving somoeone to talk with

[willow lion]

💀

[slow heart]

after figuring out what is the most important to you, you can then determine what you actually need help with to achieve that goal

[thick charm]

also that

if I'm gonna lose half my games for using Noelle

fucking so be it I'll still use Noelle lmao

[slow heart]

for me it is having fun and trolling around with other people

[thick charm]

everything else subject to change tho :P

[slow heart]

which is why i don't play meta

[slow heart]

play noelle with jeht surely

[thick charm]

Jeht real??

man i read Jeht and I'm like "mucho esfuerzo"

[gleaming parcel]

I want to win games using the characters I like, to get a card back and primos.

[thick charm]

those are all attainable btw coryn

surely you aren't as attached as the other 30 cards below your characters right

[gleaming parcel]

Wdym

[rose perch]

#1072075083025223770 message
???

[willow lion]

myth has it that if u just use the right engine u can win half the games

[thick charm]

just saiyan

[willow lion]

wait til bro finds out about the 12389051245 other pronouns that exist in 'murica

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah Noelle Bennett Ei is good I think

[thick charm]

oh god

you aren't gonna make me try that now are you

[rose perch]

ok i am blocking then

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah I forgot to change that.
I really don’t like being called she/her.

[slow heart]

So winning games need a couple component: A well build deck, luck, player skill, and opponent's skill level.
If you want to play a deck with characters you like but doesn't synergize that well, you can make up for it through player skill since that is the only other thing you can really control. And to improve player skill is hard

[thick charm]

'cause I'm totally looking at three 4-dice burst in a row and going "yeah that works"

coryn you aware people are looking at chat right

[gleaming parcel]

I’m open to making a new deck, but I don’t know where to start at all

[crystal tapir]

issok literally no one uses my pronouns anyways
i dont get very offended

[thick charm]

it really doesn't help for you to throw some jabs at 9o_o6 or Nyahida or whoever you hate at the moment and then immediately delete

[crystal tapir]

would be nice if someone does tho

[gleaming parcel]

Okay, sorry

[crystal tapir]

🤔

[slow mason]

ah sorry, I thought it was jokingly. I'll be sure to use your proper pronouns

[thick charm]

let's start by a bunch of characters you like

like throw out 4 or 5 peeps you like

[slow heart]

there are a lot of ways to build new decks. see the meta and try and build something similar to it, try playing 3 character that work well with each other and have 30 cards that support that game plan, or have a idea and character you want to play and let other people make the deck for you

[thick charm]

you still haven't reminded me what you're running atm btw

[willow lion]

they havent told anyone because they think itll get "used against them in the future"

[twilit steppe]

Kind of funny deck when used right I think

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t really want to use meta though. I don’t want to use the same deck that half the community is using right now…

[slow heart]

a example will be my sister: she want to get the card back and win some primos from ctg, but doesn't really care what she play. So I build her a deck that is easy to pilot and quick so she can get what she want and get out asapt

[willow lion]

you cant win games if u want to be special

[slow heart]

yes you can

[gleaming parcel]

I’m just someone who cares a lot about what I cards I use though.

[willow lion]

i mean u can

[thick charm]

tis a classic example of having the delicious cake and eating it too

[slow mason]

D:

[slow heart]

I will fight you with dp madge

[willow lion]

but u cant expect to win frequently

[thick charm]

leoric dps diano wiping the floor with me

[slow heart]

I will queue 35 games of it

[willow lion]

whoever queue 35 games of LS or similar stall deck needs physical therapy

i will literally pay for you to get you on a therapy

💀

[thick charm]

well I got two 10-turn games in a row, stall vs stall f u n

[shadow thorn]

For real. Just playing again LS once makes me want to get therapy myself

[thick charm]

so uh about that therapy

[slow heart]

then you can start with testing out the characters that you want to play with and see how well they work with each other

[willow lion]

💀

[slow heart]

if they don't work really well you can try other characters

[gleaming parcel]

I actually wanted to try an Ayato Thoma team, but I don’t know who to use for the 3rd card and what support cards to give them

I like Itto
Alhaitham
Kazuha
Tighnari
Cyno
There are still a lot of character cards I don’t have though

[slow heart]

playing stall is therapy for me

[slow mason]

I'm not really proud of that score because I've lost most games to stupidity

[thick charm]

ayato thomato probably works

[twilit steppe]

Wow DPS Diona is top 14 right now

[tropic slate]

progress is progress

[willow lion]

i havent seen anything outstanding from thoma yet

but maybe thats just me

[thick charm]

I have no idea how to play them so I'll pass the baton to everyone else

[twilit steppe]

I wonder if all of the LS players I keep meeting on Asia random matchmaking thinks like this

[tropic slate]

thoma ayato sounds like a good combo

nahida actually probably works good as a third

enables the magic engine, helps put pressure with seeds, activates burning

[gleaming parcel]

That’s the thing, no one really uses them together.
No one uses Thoma for anything. in game or otherwise

[willow lion]

hear me out: ayato thoma + another pyro

[slow heart]

so you want ayato with thoma right? this mean ayato will probably be normal attacking with thoma burst up, and since you want to normal attack you will want some card that support normal attack

[thick charm]

if I had to put more effort thinking I'd say some electro fi***l or yea Nahida

also yea Thoma kinda succ irl but hey look at that

[twilit steppe]

Well I have seen this kind of strange Cyno Thoma Barbara deck that kind of works against me (maybe another skill issue) Barbara for cleanse heal and then the two others for overload

[gleaming parcel]

I’d been trying Yae - Thoma - Ayato and it’s okay but it feels clunky

[thick charm]

the one thing he does well is triggering Burgeon

[tropic slate]

it's probably also a good jeht engine deck actually

[thick charm]

might as well do that in the tcg too right?

[slow heart]

wait hold

[tropic slate]

if you can keep thoma alive until you trigger jeht

[willow lion]

nah fr bro run thoma ayato + another pyro like klee or lyney

trust

[slow heart]

jeht ayato

[willow lion]

its basically pyro keqing but hydro keqing but no more overload

[slow heart]

there is also this version from blep

[thick charm]

People actually playing Jeht? 🤔

[pearl fern]

did i play that

[slow heart]

wait it is kojo

[pearl fern]

I'm pretty sure if I did I told everyone it was a bad deck and not to play it

[slow heart]

mb

[willow lion]

unironically loosing with them too

[thick charm]

hey if nothing else it's a cute deck

[twilit steppe]

Yes I do

[willow lion]

😔

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t know what that means

[pearl fern]

that was one of my stream decks where I was messing around don't use it

[thick charm]

kamisato clan deck

Thoma carrying it for the siblings tho

[gleaming parcel]

I also don’t know what Jhets card even does

[thick charm]

err Jeht counts the number of supports you lose, up to 6

[slow heart]

jeht might be too complicated for some people hmm

[willow lion]

you rush burst on thoma -> use ayato to proc vapes (gets helped by double pyro resonance card) -> use third pyro to clean up

[thick charm]

and when you burst, she gives you 1 omni for each support, minus 2

[gleaming parcel]

Im lost

[twilit steppe]

See Jeht engine can beat Finaly (when lucky and/or used properly I guess)

[thick charm]

(i.e 6 supports = 4 omni)

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah when I first used it I actually get kind of confused I get slightly better with it though now

[slow heart]

with the requirement that u need to at least count 5 support

[gleaming parcel]

Im really lost now

[slow heart]

yea so no jeht

[willow lion]

recommending jeht is the most troll advice in tcg history ong

[thick charm]

she's weirdly complicated and I'm not sure she even pays off

[gleaming parcel]

No not even the jeht thing

You guys agreed that Thoma and Ayato could work together but that’s it

[tropic slate]

i'm legit stealing this

[gleaming parcel]

Im still lost

[thick charm]

yea

lemme cook something simple-ish but it's probably much copypasting my deck

[willow lion]

yes and the third character u can either opt in a different element to play artifact engine or you can add a pyro to play off double pyro resonance card

[dark lark]

[thick charm]

sidenote, is Godba arcane dead?

[slow heart]

the theory behind the combo is there, but how efficient is the combo compare to other decks

[slow heart]

:ayawah

[willow lion]

not dead just more balanced

[tropic slate]

no, it's just much worse than it was

so other arcanes are more valuable by comparison

Something like Danemo has so few options for other arcanes it still likes stove

[thick charm]

nice, I suck at using it

either gives me too little value so I don't use it, or too much value -> discard, so it sits there

[gleaming parcel]

But idk which to use, what would be better

[tropic slate]

but other decks can run judgment, fwof, covenant, or joyous instead

[twilit steppe]

Yeah personally I'd rather use artifacts + talents + Seelie for drawing cards (as for current patch)

[thick charm]

🧑‍🍳

[willow lion]

personally id tell u to use klee or lyney cuz double pyro is easier to pilot than artifact engine

i think

[thick charm]

a yea ease of use

well if you have more or less an idea how to gilded it isn't super bad

Dunyarzad into Yayoi and then equip Vorukasha or something

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have Klee, and as much as I love Lyney as a character his card stresses me out cause he cuts his own hp

[slow heart]

the thing I want to cook with thoma ayato is getting more and more burnt by the second

[thick charm]

well Klee cute so you should fix that

[slow heart]

I think I am delusional thinking that azhdaha or thundering is a good third character

[gleaming parcel]

I never understood the fascination with Klee lol

[thick charm]

I mean they are good so

go jamón?

[slow heart]

vape reaction just isn't as efficient as ec or sc

[thick charm]

if you have no idea what to do you might as well slap a generically good dude lul

[gleaming parcel]

Wdym

[pearl fern]

Klee's still one of the few chars that have a good 3+2. Honestly maybe it's time for klee vape to come back

[willow lion]

you think they'd know how to pilot azhdaha properly

[rich pecan]

Just checking, it's three wins to get the card back right

[thick charm]

yes three wins

anything else is just primogem greed

[rich pecan]

Ok cool

[gleaming parcel]

Idk. There are also just a lot of support cards I’m not familiar with / reading their description doesn’t seem like the cards are super useful

[rich pecan]

I'm done then

[thick charm]

for instance…?

[slow heart]

The thing is after you play at a certain level for a while you assume everyone is at your level of understanding when you make suggestion or criticism and don't realize that

[gleaming parcel]

Like dunyarzad, I don’t understand how she’s useful

[thick charm]

ah well

[crystal tapir]

dun goodge

[thick charm]

searching cards is always a good effect in tcgs

[crystal tapir]

search effect and -1 cost for each following supporter

[thick charm]

and she's basically as close as you get to card search in GITCG

so like, if you understand why Strategize is good, then you kinda understand why Dunya is good

[gleaming parcel]

I read her card, but I didn’t think she did that?

[thick charm]

yea, once per match (and per copy), after you play a support, she'll grab you another support

[pearl fern]

dunya's more of a ramp card than actual card draw. Strat is a weird comparison

[crystal tapir]

dunya is just value

[thick charm]

mm yea she ramps more than draws but that just makes it better yea

[pearl fern]

yeah it's just value

[crystal tapir]

strat is more about fishing nowadays

[thick charm]

thins out your deck and also makes your next play cheaper

[crystal tapir]

🐟

[thick charm]

like, you wanna play Yayoi anyway, might as well grab an extra support while you do

[gleaming parcel]

I feel like she’s only valuable if you have a lot of companions / need a specific companion

[thick charm]

downside is that now half your support side is full :v but that's not really a downside

yea but companions gud

that's a theme with a lot of those cards, play to the archetype you think is best for you

[willow lion]

i pulled this off my ass dont come at me if its dog shit

[pearl fern]

if you play Dunya you're usually playing at least 5-6 other companions yes

[thick charm]

like Chef Mao is useless if you just play a single pizza

[willow lion]

also why is hoyolab's card thing so shit

it doesnt even organize it for u

wait i didnt put smoked chicken

[willow lion]

she gives u -1 dice for another support card every turn

and only cost 1

so by that logic, from 2nd turn on u earn 1 dice for every support card u put down

[thick charm]

she pays for itself right away

drawing your two Dunyarzads is the dream lol

[willow lion]

dunyarzad meta

IS OVER BECAUSE SEED BOX IS BETTER

[safe plaza]

seed box >

[gleaming parcel]

Idk. I’m still just not sure what to do

[willow lion]

try this

[gleaming parcel]

What order do you play the cards tho

Or like skills and stuff

[willow lion]

u rush thoma burst

and then go to ayato to do his things

and then lastly go to lyney to kill whoever is left

[gleaming parcel]

which means what

[safe plaza]

if it's any consolation

i lost 3-1 today

[willow lion]

?? u rush to get thoma burst

[safe plaza]

won't even play my last match tbh

[gleaming parcel]

Simple terms

[willow lion]

simple terms u focus on getting thoma burst

[gleaming parcel]

Yeahhh let me know when you get to 2/15 in terms of wins

[twilit steppe]

You lost 3 times or 1 times? Sorry I am nosey🙈

[safe plaza]

3

i could have won 2 of those games

but i kept playing when i was tilted

[twilit steppe]

Oh okay.. hopefully in other days you will win more

[willow lion]

is it just me or does NA bracket feels overall lower score this season

like top 16 is already at 10-5

[safe plaza]

[willow lion]

isnt top 16 only supposed to loose 8

[gleaming parcel]

Okay but like do I do normal attack, his skill, what
I understand the goal is to get to his burst as fast as possible but like

[willow lion]

preferrably skill if u can?

since it does more dmg I THINK

and gives a shield

[safe plaza]

i'm sure i will

[twilit steppe]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I am number 20 something even though I lost six times

[safe plaza]

thank you ryssa

[safe plaza]

yeah i'm 8-6 atm

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah, I just know with my current deck I have a very set order on the skills I use and what order to do them in for my first few turns
So I need a plan

[willow lion]

the plan of this deck is just to get thoma burst fast, then use have ayato do good dmg with that burst

[twilit steppe]

Oh apparently I am still 18th now, and wow we have same score haha

[willow lion]

and then clean up the rest with lyney

[pearl glade]

b

[gleaming parcel]

Sorry, I’m just dumb, I understand but hnggg

I also don’t understand

[willow lion]

itll WORK but like it probably will get out classed by other decks

[gleaming parcel]

I mean, even if it’s slightly better than my current deck

[willow lion]

i dont know what your current deck is

[safe plaza]

if your current deck is the one i think it is

[willow lion]

so i couldnt tell u

[safe plaza]

i think your current deck is better

ngl

[gleaming parcel]

I what do you think my current deck is

[safe plaza]

the one i recommended

[gleaming parcel]

no it isn’t

[safe plaza]

ooo

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have a way to import the deck

Like the code you sent, I can’t copy and paste it into my game

I’m still using the deck I played you

[gleaming parcel]

I just don’t understand what you mean fhdjsjhs

I just don’t understand how to play the deck you gave me besides just trying to do vape damage

How do I play the support cards, what should I be trying to do, what order do I go in, what do I do if the cycle resets or the turns run out, I need plans like that

[willow lion]

thats a whole another lesson that you cant learn simply from text

that comes with experience

[slow heart]

this is the deck Coryn is trying out right?

[willow lion]

no idea

im happy to watch you play a game and tell you where you couldve done better

[gleaming parcel]

I likely won’t do exactly that deck but I might try something similar

But im still not sure how to play it

And I’m scared than even if I try a “better” deck than what I’m using, I’ll still lose every match

[willow lion]

what are u scared of you have nothing to loose

[gleaming parcel]

I could lose the matches and not get the card back

[willow lion]

the worst thing that can happen is u loose and u gain some experience for next time

[willow lion]

ur 2-13 no?? ur 1 win away from card back

and u have 20 games left

[slow heart]

So what I think after seeing that list is: vape list with rush thoma burst into swap ayato stuff with lyney as anchor.
What this mean is that your r1 will be something along the line of thoma skill/skill, skill/na, or na/na. This will leave you with 2 dice that can be use on support. The support that could be play with these 2 dice are opera for dice fixing, voru for more draw, and seelie

after getting thoma burst up r1, r2 will be thoma burst into swap ayato skill

[frigid sundial]

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah but I’ve lost almost half already.
My first season I couldn’t win the card back. I was 1/21. What if that happens again?

[slow heart]

the deck is pretty combo like so more dice ramp could be good

[willow lion]

if it happen again then it happen again 💀

if you dont even try then it 100% happen again

💀

[gleaming parcel]

But I don’t want it to happen again… I’m just saying my anxiety is that even a new deck won’t change anything

[slow heart]

Mirai I also just realized the deck u cook for Coryn is running 8 food with no mao or anything

truly trolling

[willow lion]

cuz i pulled it off my ass in 2 minutes of thinking time

or less

[slow heart]

opera with 4 1 cost art as well

this is even more burnt than my cooking

[willow lion]

dunkyar mao engine would probably be better

honestly

fuck seelie and seed box ig

[gleaming parcel]

I think that makes sense…

[slow heart]

what if we just run rainbow with standard magic package

[willow lion]

then they wont know how to pilot it

[slow heart]

even bad deck with magic do well right?

[willow lion]

youre assuming theyre your skill level again

[slow heart]

:gldge

how do I explain magic hmm

[gleaming parcel]

[slow heart]

I think it is faster to see it in action

[willow lion]

u dont

u have to play it to know how to play it

[slow heart]

and watch them go from 8 dice to 16 dices

[willow lion]

cooked

i was debating if i should get rid of opera since no more seed box but eh

opera is still +2 if chances are given

though deck like this almost never go to >4 rounds so 🤔

[gleaming parcel]

[slow heart]

ok so what if this

[gleaming parcel]

I’m still a little lost but ok, it’s given me ideas at least

But thank you guys, sorry I’m such a mess

[night token]

I only won 4/10 yesterday so I fucked up a lot

Misplays, skill issues, luck issue, and gotten a little lazy playing Genshin and TCG recently cause I got a little carried away w/ Honkai Star Rail

(cause of hot husbandos and beautiful babes)

I also played both Genshin and Honkai at the same time on different devices

[gleaming parcel]

I tried the Lyney Thoma Ayato deck and it works well

[jolly osprey]

whats the lucky coin count at?

[willow lion]

i skipped like 10 weeks of npc so i would probably have a lot less

[ancient spindle]

mine is max i guess

[wet bluff]

Yeah mine is a lot worse as well lol

[safe plaza]

Good luck in 20 mins

Oh wait

1 hour 20 mins

[subtle ibex]

[ancient spindle]

[wet bluff]

[night token]

[safe plaza]

[pearl glade]

[raven fiber]

[ancient spindle]

[shadow thorn]

[slow heart]

[pliant otter]

Do people play in more than one region in these events?

Is that allowed in the rules?

[slow heart]

It is not encourage but people do

[tropic slate]

some people do, it is explicitly discouraged but not banned

if you manage to make Serious Showdown in more than one region it's an instaban I think

though idk whether that's just from the serious showdown or from these events in general

[crystal tapir]

its a dq not a ban

[safe plaza]

Basically what Birdy

Said

[slow heart]

insta ban from future ctg?

[tropic slate]

hopefully not because that would be a bit harsh

but definitely from the serious showdown

[pliant otter]

Feels like a bad system.

[crystal tapir]

how so? its 3 distinct tournaments with the same name

[raven fiber]

..It's not an Insta-ban if you make multiple Serious showdowns, They will just Disqualify you from 1 of them as you cannot partake in two. Or you can ask to be DQ from one of them

[pliant otter]

If they don't let you play in multiple top cuts, you shouldn't get to take 3 shots at getting to one.

If they actually wanted it to happen, they'd let you play in every one.

Clearly they aren't seperate events.

[raven fiber]

They only said it was 'discouraged' as you cannot qualify for multiple so you do not waste your time

[crystal tapir]

no, serious showdown is a completely different thing than ctg

its not top cut

[rich wasp]

unless you live in 2 places at once theres only 1 regio nyo ucan qual for anyways

[pliant otter]

you shouldn't be able to play in qualifiers for events you can't play in

[rich wasp]

probably

its just hard to catch anyone