#[America Server] Discussions

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gleaming parcel
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For Lyney

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No Fischl but a Lyney team

thorny oyster
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hmm

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theres like

gleaming parcel
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Could yae work instead??

thorny oyster
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bennett thunderbird lyney i guess?

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but i have no idea if its good

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it works tho

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i think

gleaming parcel
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What about cards to go with it though. What support cards

thorny oyster
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magic package

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yae will make the deck significantly worse tho

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methinks

gleaming parcel
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The quality makes it hard to read… is that your deck??

thorny oyster
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because no initial application

thorny oyster
gleaming parcel
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That doesn’t help me

thorny oyster
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lemme just send a link from genshincards then

gleaming parcel
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What would a rotation even look like, I don’t even know how his card works

thorny oyster
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should be easier to read

thorny oyster
gleaming parcel
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I regularly use Yae - Nahida - Tighnari and I have a orettt solid rotation down but Lyney obviously works differently than nari

thorny oyster
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you can even foschl e -> lyney prop arrow r1

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it depends on the matchup

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and stuff

gleaming parcel
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I told you I don’t want to use Fischl

thorny oyster
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other than... name

gleaming parcel
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By the picture???

thorny oyster
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lemme try hoyolab

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1s1s

gleaming parcel
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I also don’t understand why Fischl is better when Yae’s summon lasts for longer

thorny oyster
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which is huge

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and a lot more pressure

gleaming parcel
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Uhh they both only apply electro? Fischl doesn’t apply 2 elements

thorny oyster
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also nvm i cant access card plaza hoyolab on phone

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:sadge:

gleaming parcel
thorny oyster
gleaming parcel
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Game doesn’t end in 3 rounds??

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I’m also lot looking for the most meta deck ever… I don’t like being told I have to play a certain way and being forced into only using an exact set of cards. I want a good team but still have a say in what I play

thorny oyster
gleaming parcel
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screw off

thorny oyster
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duh

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this guy cant read

gleaming parcel
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no you didn’t actually give me another option

gleaming parcel
thorny oyster
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....

gleaming parcel
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ugh I can’t do this conversation again.
Cause it always ends up with people hating me.

thorny oyster
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i just want to help

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😔

gleaming parcel
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Well you’re not helping

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I mentioned trying Yae Lyney Nahida as an alternative to Fischl Lyney Nahida and I was shut down immediately

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I explained why I was looking at that deck and I was still shut down

pine heron
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Nomad help him

gleaming parcel
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I’m not a him.

thorny oyster
gleaming parcel
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im not a boy.

pine heron
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Oh sorry

gleaming parcel
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Don’t assume everyone here is a male.

polar barn
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ah man i forgot to ping again

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i blame creamlet for that

ancient spindle
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Creamlet GanyUh

polar barn
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hi
i remember u

gleaming parcel
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Last time I asked for help here about a specific deck I mentioned characters I wanted to use and people suggested a couple different decks to go with those characters.

Tha wasn’t what happened here at all

polar barn
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this u

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i presume

willow lion
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i used to be up there top 3 and then school hit

polar barn
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yeah

willow lion
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didnt play for the rest of the season and still got top 10

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some how

polar barn
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yeah bcz everyone else also slowed down

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it's dead nowdays

ancient spindle
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Hmm Natan

polar barn
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i don't know who this is

gleaming parcel
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guess I won’t get help then, have fun rekindling your admiration or whatever

polar barn
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hmm

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now that mirai ia also back

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i must play in NA

willow lion
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how do i know that ive succesfully registered

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is there a role

pine heron
# polar barn

Bad old days when I used to get farmed by this girl named lalisa

polar barn
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dw u still will

gleaming parcel
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that doesn’t make us feel better

pine heron
polar barn
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really bozo

pine heron
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Yup

polar barn
pine heron
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Be ready to get bullied

supple marsh
willow lion
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stream it i wanna watch

pine heron
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We have potato phones and I'm outside cri

willow lion
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wait theres spectate now right

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let me spec

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give a uid

pine heron
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I can't play nowAlhaithamNod

willow lion
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oh

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😔

polar barn
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gib ur uid

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ill add

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although my main region is asia tough

pine heron
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But for your kind information I'll let you know I can lose to a NPC but surely not against someone named nomadge

gleaming parcel
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Can I please have help building a deck or do I just not matter any more

willow lion
polar barn
willow lion
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:clueless:

polar barn
gleaming parcel
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But that’s a horrible mindset to even think that way

pine heron
gleaming parcel
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I was told I could come here for help, and you’re kicking me out the door

polar barn
gleaming parcel
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and you don’t even care

polar barn
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relax

gleaming parcel
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its hard to relax when I’m being ignored and refused help

polar barn
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he isn't someone to ask for help he just came back
on the contrary he is on the same page as u probably

gleaming parcel
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despite being told multiple times that this would always be a place to ask for help

gleaming parcel
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I was just asking for general help

polar barn
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im sure people will answer

gleaming parcel
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I did??

How specific do you want me to be

willow lion
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anyone wanna fight

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i wanna see how washed i am

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i cant tell the power level of opponent in random queue

polar barn
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fite me

willow lion
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609882669

polar barn
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giv me a bit to login

gleaming parcel
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how does Lyney’s card work

What would a rotation with Lyney Yae Miko and Nahida look like

What is a general idea for the kind of cards I should use as support

I compared the team to my Nahida Yae nari team and while I feel like I could do something similar with the deck it’s unlikely

How do I play the characters I want to play and still be successful without being in a specific box and not forced to only play with specific cards and not a specific deck where if you don’t play that deck you lose every single match and make a fool of yourself again

How do I not be someone that others look down on as a player with out succumbing to box that is meta

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How specific do you really want to be because I’ve asked these questions

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And I keep being dismissed

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I’m not a top player; I’m new to competitive play and last season was my first season. I got my asked kicked. Destroyed my mental health after losing 15 games in a row in a single day.

Im asking for help and I’m being kicked to the curb despite being told that this server would be otherwise for players that needed help.
I’m not asking for your pity or shame. I’m asking for help.

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anaaaannmddd you’re gone again

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Fine. Forget it. What’s the point.

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If you don’t care just say so.
Enjoy your power.

pearl glade
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@willow lion i am down to spar sometimes if you want

willow lion
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wow this is so joever

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i misplayed badly

pine heron
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Still need to grind cards for NADespairge

pearl glade
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are u gonna grind all three regions?

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for ctg

pine heron
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Probably yes

polar barn
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u see im old now

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and i don't have the same energy

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as before

gleaming parcel
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Yeah will no one has answered period.
No one cares. Period. And that’s been proven

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Idk why people assume I was only asking you

polar barn
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ok ill try

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but I don't know much myself

gleaming parcel
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If it was a single question to a single person I would have dmed you or pinged you

pale blaze
polar barn
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prop arrow which is his NA other than standard physical

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deals 2 pyro

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summons a hat

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which deals 1 damage end phase

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reduces 1 hp

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gives one stack

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when u do E his E does 3 + no of stacks

gleaming parcel
# pale blaze wdym by power, just curious

They said that helping someone was bad because it’s helping the enemy. That helping others hurts them.
They were also busy marveling over someone who ranked high almost a year ago.
I meant literal power.

polar barn
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and heals no of stacks

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his burst deals 3 and summons the same stuff as his NA and gives one stack

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so if u do NA amd bhrst than his E will deal 5 damage and heal for 2

gleaming parcel
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What do you mean by NA and E

polar barn
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E is elemental skill

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NA is well Normal attack

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prop arrow

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other than physical standard NA

gleaming parcel
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Ok. Sorry I don’t use pc

pale blaze
polar barn
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u see not many people are as active as they use to before

gleaming parcel
polar barn
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morning for AS

gleaming parcel
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But this isn’t the Asia discussion channel.

polar barn
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wel this is not asia thread nvm

gleaming parcel
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🌝

pale blaze
gleaming parcel
polar barn
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pretty sure that was not meant to be taken literally but whatever

gleaming parcel
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I was told that this was a helpful server, but pretty much everyone that is active here right now at this has ignored me and shut me out.

polar barn
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let's do the qna thing

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don't mind the distractions

gleaming parcel
polar barn
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why does this vibe remind me of andrew

gleaming parcel
# pale blaze hm thanks

That’s why I got defensive… the competitive players here are too competitive.
This isn’t the first time either.

gleaming parcel
polar barn
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my old friend

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anyhow

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lyney has kind of similar role as mona

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but u trade fast swap for more damage

gleaming parcel
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I don’t really use Mona so I wouldn’t know how she works

polar barn
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more personal damage

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as overload is inferior to eltrocharge early phase of the game

gleaming parcel
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Okay….

polar barn
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mona

gleaming parcel
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Sorry I’m just a bit lost

polar barn
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combined with summons deal efficient damage

gleaming parcel
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I don’t think I’ve ever used Mona

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I don’t even think I have her card

pine heron
polar barn
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instead of this

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would u mind answering questions

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smh

gleaming parcel
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I guess yeah

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I probably would understand Lyney better once I use him tbh

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I’d

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Idk

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I just really like Lyney and I wanna use him

polar barn
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there is this deck which is getting bit popular consist of lyney fischl and nahida

pine heron
polar barn
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predecessor of mnec ig

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mona nahida fischl

gleaming parcel
polar barn
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hmm

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u can use yae tbh

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both are vaible

gleaming parcel
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someone said it would be a bad choice and I’d suck though

polar barn
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it's about preference

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yae goes good into stall

gleaming parcel
polar barn
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and Fish better against aggro

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ig

gleaming parcel
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yeah I just don’t like Fischl

pale blaze
polar barn
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im not nice GanyUh

pale blaze
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oh !

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well

polar barn
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i got my friend banned

pale blaze
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pls ?

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uh

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well there’s definitely more people willing to help then unwilling to help !

gleaming parcel
polar barn
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ye

pale blaze
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probably cause this channel is inactive

polar barn
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since i saw no one

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i was forced to help

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im anything but nice

pale blaze
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um

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ok

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good to know ?

gleaming parcel
polar barn
gleaming parcel
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Idk.
I’ll probably build him and try a few different decks and just end up failing tighnarisplat

pine heron
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For a moment there I thought you bought nitro again GanyUh

polar barn
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whenever u build a deck keep in mind other decks that are popular

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and how will it fair against them

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what are it's advantages

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over others

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otherwise the deck will not work

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in competitive scene

gleaming parcel
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I don’t know much about that other than people loving summons and raiden

polar barn
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i would more worry about stall decks

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as people generally don't know how to play against them

gleaming parcel
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I don’t know what a stall deck is

polar barn
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they drain ur resources by absorbing ur initial damage

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while accumulatimg value overtime

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u run out of resources and they are flowing in it

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but they loose to otk decks
which just overwhelm them with insane damage in a single round

gleaming parcel
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Ok

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I feel like I play stall decks

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Based on your description

polar barn
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stall decks are difficult to play tough

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and takes time to learn

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since every move u have to think and come up with plans

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since

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stalls generally dosent have a standard line or path to follow

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mostly intuitive and situationaly adaptive

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if u want to build a stall deck

  1. u need good drawing power and ramp
  2. high value overtime units and equipment cards
  3. any kind of disruption or cleanse like forced anemo swap/barb cleanse/freez
  4. counter play cards like send off , judgment etc
gleaming parcel
polar barn
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some decks have standard lines which are obvious

gleaming parcel
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Okaaayyy

polar barn
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so u don't always have to think every move

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like fischl E into mona E opening

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is pretty standard

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u do have to think otherthings or if u want to change ur opening

gleaming parcel
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Yeah

twilit lodge
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yaethunk what transpired here

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i prob shldnt get involve pitaleaves

proud yarrow
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How does matchmaking system work?

supple marsh
# proud yarrow How does matchmaking system work?

You will be matched with a player having similar performance of the same server.
This is from S5 (2023) and is confirmed to not be changed this season. As for what "similar performance" means, I don't really remember if it was similar records (e.g. 6-0 would probably be matched with 6-1, 5-0 or 5-1) or similar winrate.

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Though, I think that if it was actually similar winrate then that could be concerning

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(e.g. a "25% winrate" player whose record is 1-3 but just to happen to have lost to 3 players of a higher skill tier, vs a 25% winrate player whose record is 3-9)

tropic slate
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it will try to match you as close to the same number of wins as it can in a reasonable amount of time

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in my experience

proud yarrow
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I mean how do I play a match

supple marsh
# proud yarrow I mean how do I play a match

There are specific times when the queue is open. At those times, click "Start" in #preliminary-queue and you'll be put in a queue for up to 10 minutes. If there's an opponent, you will have 60 seconds to confirm your match.

Once both of you have confirmed the match, you'll get a thread to discuss co-op joining, agree on using Heated Battle Mode (if applicable), and report match results.

ancient spindle
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Try playing 35 games in the last day

supple marsh
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do not

pine heron
polar barn
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and against dp

summer thicket
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Omgosh similar performance matchups means i have a chance at getting the card back KeqingWow

thick charm
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yea if you play every game and don't give up

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a 9% winrate gets you the card back

summer thicket
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Yoooo lets go danceparty
9% winrate is plenty enough for meeee

supple marsh
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no reason not to try

thick charm
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note: 9% winrate will be depressing

supple marsh
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also if you play all your 35 matches then you'll get one complimentary circuit point

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depends on the queue to be honest

thick charm
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it'll be better if you're on gigacope and mentalize yourself that you'll help someone also get their 9% kokopium

supple marsh
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I mean if you're new and playing at the same time as new players then that 9% does become more doable

thick charm
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that is to say

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don't play all your games on Sunday

supple marsh
thick charm
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the people that play on Sunday

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are the gigachad sweatlords that crunched 105 games because they already play 100 games before breakfast as their morning routine

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wish I had that energy

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but alas, 5 games a day against actual people is exhausting for me

supple marsh
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I mean if you're exhausted you can just try to be more relaxed after the cardback threshold

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(don't be too relaxed though, or you'll break competitive integrity)

thick charm
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True but my ocd demands I fill my quota

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also I always do my utmost, any less would be an insult to my opponent

||unfortunately i'm bad||

cursive gazelle
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are the queue windows the same as last patch or we dont know yet?

thick charm
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maybe if we happen to rematch and I won I'll pick a different deck I do worse with but that doesn't mean I'm gonna sandbag

supple marsh
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(not talking about multi-queue players though, they don't care one bit about the queue windows)

summer thicket
supple marsh
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how did that happen

summer thicket
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PaimonThink prolly bc i was using a deck that hadnt been updated since the first patch or two of gitcg...?
and also im a casual tcg player BennettSorry_DalasQuil

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i just wanna make decks that i think have an interesting strategy or have my favorite characters hahaha PaimonUh

supple marsh
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I don't have the time to research but if I do I'd 100% try to break the meta (not that when I do it it becomes the new meta anyway)

summer thicket
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yeeee break the meta is good stuff
i can only pull that off in the non tcg genshin hahaha

cursive gazelle
summer thicket
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perhaps
when i woke up this morning i was like 'what if qiqi dori sayu' bc qiqi and yuegui are two of my favorites
but my brain an hour later is thinking thats a rly bad idea

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i needa update that old deck from forever ago anyway..

polar barn
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sayu isn't added in the game yet

summer thicket
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oh i meant yaoyao

ancient spindle
gleaming parcel
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gleaming parcel
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@thick charm are you still there :0

thick charm
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yea I'm gonna participate

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but I haven't touched any of the new cards

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so I have no idea how they even work

gleaming parcel
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Oh I was gonna ask for deck advice actually

I’ve gotten very proficient with my nari Nahida Yae deck

But I wanna try a new one

But if you don’t know the new characters then nevermind (though one deck isn’t as new)

thick charm
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the only one I remotely know is Yelan because I have a friend who's into her and im constantly pestering to participate in tctg

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and even still I haven't even unlocked her card

gleaming parcel
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I was looking at a Ayato - Kazuha - Yae deck but idk if that actually works

I also want to try to find a deck that works with Lyney but I’m ????

thick charm
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yea no idea about Lyney

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I'd just go to the gitcg discord and steal something from there HeheSmile

slow mason
gleaming parcel
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I didn’t know there was a gitcg discord… and idk
The one people threw at me had Fischl in it and I really don’t like using her

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So I just don’t know

thick charm
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well you're already using Yae as a substitute Fischl in your deck with Nahida, and from quickly skimming the convo earlier to catch up with chat, you were told about the tradeoffs between them

gleaming parcel
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Yeahhh I just don’t like Fischl

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Not even in tcg but in game too

thick charm
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I have brain too smol to close games quickly so I can't in good faith tell you how important it is/it isn't that she applies electro on cast vs only at the end of the turn

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but it is a big difference that keeps her relevant even after so many cards with Electro summons have released

gleaming parcel
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yeah I suppose

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I’m just not a meta slave I guess lol

thick charm
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other than that tiny detail with a huge impact yeah Yae is kinda better in most ways so

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it's okay to run her as a substitute

gleaming parcel
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Yeah they kinda made it sound like it wasn’t though

thick charm
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Well, I quickly skimmed and don't even remember the deck I only remember there was Yae vs Fischl discussion so I wouldn't know

Plus the whole elephant in the room that I have no idea wtf a Lyney is HeheSmile

slow mason
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I honestly don't have time to look at the full conversation but if you don't like fish yae is a fine substitute here

gleaming parcel
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Ok lol

thick charm
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I think Yae vs Fischl boils down to Fischl applying more immediate pressure and threatening an Overload during the turn is a lot harder to play around than an end-turn Overload

gleaming parcel
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I’m also not sure what deck to build around him; my instinct is to do something similar to my nari Nahida Yae deck

thick charm
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doesn't Lyney have a summon or something 🤔 ok I should stop beating around the bush and just read his card HeheSmile

gleaming parcel
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Yee he does

thick charm
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ooh I see

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so he also applies pyro and summons a pet to do pyro at the end of the turn

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yea I can see why people insisted on Fischl then

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that's basically two Overloads vs only 1 + possibly pyro application

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his talent does buff damage to opponents affected with Pyro by 2 so maybe you could toy around with that? It's the same damage increase from Overload but without the forward switch and only once per round and without the ability to buff it with Fervent Flames

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maybe not super worth it but could be ok

cursive gazelle
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theres a bennett lyney thunder manifestation deck you could try too

thick charm
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I've heard the m i s t a k e is everywhere (because it gud) so you could do that if you want red with purple

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and I still don't know what it really does other than single out bully the hell out of a character HeheSmile

cursive gazelle
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4 dmg skill that attacks backline

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its crazy

thick charm
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ah so it's just as much of a m i s t a k e as in irl ingame got it

summer thicket
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if u need someone who applies electro immediately and does a summon, dori might be an option...?

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idk abt the tcg meta or common strats tho

cursive gazelle
summer thicket
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oh okay
needs a longer duration ig

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idk what that deck is or what its gameplan is tbh BennettSorry_DalasQuil

cursive gazelle
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most of the time you go fischl -> nahida to spread seed and get aggravate

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another opening is fischl -> lyney if you need the overload

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lyney can trigger both burning and overloading which is nice. along with nahida seeds or even burst, the reactions can do a lot of dmg

dusk sky
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Ok stupid question but this is my first tournament and I can’t find anything to confirm this info - is it true we need to have more than 1 deck prepared? When do we switch decks if so

slow mason
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you only have to do that if you get to knockouts or in other words if you're in the top 16 of the region by the end of the week

dusk sky
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Also is there limitations on what we can have in our decks?

tropic slate
dusk sky
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ty sorry for all the questions i just don’t wanna do anything wrong

brittle finch
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how do i know if i have successfully register for prelimaries?

night token
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There's so many new cards that I have to try and understand their mechanics

night token
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Some I can understand while others are complex

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But it's fun to try new cards

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At least Wanderer has two monster friends that can attack standbys

inner dagger
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The new monsters are frustrating, I don't quite understand them

night token
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I'm trying to understand how la signora works

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I use npc to be my test subjects

inner dagger
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I just know that the signora should be eliminate in her second phase

tropic slate
# night token I'm trying to understand how la signora works

her normal attack does 1 of her current element
her skill does 2+1 of her current element (2 immediately, 1 on the opponent's end phase)
as cryo signora, her burst does 4 damage 2 healing, and turns her into pyro
as pyro signora, her burst does 6 damage

she will turn into pyro automatically if she starts the round at 4hp or less
if killed as cryo signora, she will revive with 1hp and turn into pyro

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she is actually less complicated than most of the new cards this patch

night token
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Time to master her mechanic w/ Childe and Fischl before the 7th

slow mason
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I am ready to go 5-30

night token
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Same

supple marsh
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beidoubting

night token
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I will definitely not be in the top 16, but if I can be ranked 69th, then I'm happy

rose perch
tropic slate
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  • Yelan starts with 1 stack, and can have up to 3. She passively gains 1 stack per round, on end phase.
  • Yelan's normal attack does 2 physical damage.
  • Yelan's skill does 3 damage and adds 2 stacks.
  • When Yelan has at least 2 stacks and uses a normal attack, she loses 2 stacks but the normal attack does hydro instead of physical, and you draw a card.
  • Yelan's burst does 1 hydro, and then for this round and the next round, every normal attack you do will be followed up by an extra attack of 2 hydro damage.

The most basic strategy with yelan is usually to start on her (1 stack), use skill (3 stacks, apply hydro), then normal attack (down to 1 stack, apply hydro again, draw a card), then ramp with your remaining dice. On end phase, you recover one stack, so you're now at 2. Next starting phase, use normal attack (down to 0 stacks, apply hydro, draw another card), and then you have enough energy to burst so you can go from there

rose perch
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you can also not start on her and just use normal on round 2 for a card draw right? Or do you need to use her for the passive to start being active

tropic slate
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for just card draw you can do that yet

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but yelan doesn't really have much power of her own - other than the utility of the card draw, she's mainly useful for setting up her burst for your teammates

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the longer you wait before starting to set that up, the more tools your opponent has to interrupt it

night token
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If the game doesn't have the oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale card, I will be sad

polar barn
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the what

supple marsh
sick blaze
safe plaza
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yelan OTK is fun

safe plaza
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@tropic slate

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i drew lotus

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AFTERWARDS

tropic slate
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Gg wp

safe plaza
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i forgot signora revived

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HAHAHA

safe plaza
pearl glade
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dang you guys are playing early in the morning

safe plaza
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so funny

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LMAOOOOO

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GG

livid thunder
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what an exciting bo3

frigid sundial
nocturne barn
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If i can see this is bc I'm registered, right? QiqiLurk

nocturne barn
#

ª

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The anxiety is killing me PepeHands

steep hound
#

How many decks do we need to register?

slow mason
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none

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for the preliminary phase you can play anything

steep hound
#

Oh cool

dusk sky
#

can i switch decks in between rounds in the prelims or do i have to choose one and stick to it

supple marsh
dusk sky
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👍 ty

safe plaza
#

i hope everyone reads them

ancient spindle
#

so in this CTG season we can still play 3 alt on 3 diff servers right ?

raven fiber
rose perch
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Not encouraging it cuz if you make it to the serious showdown on 2 servers you are dq.

violet rose
#

What is "serious showdown" supposed to be anyway? I can't find any information on it.

rich wasp
#

i’m pretty sure it’s the equivalent to the closed qualifiers from last time

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where top 24 from ctg and 8 from wild card qualify for it

pearl fern
#

by the sounds of it though serious showdown only qualifies you into the closed quali's alongside wild card and then you have to get through that to make it to top 16 PC

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so it seems like an extra step from before?

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where it was just CTG results directly leads to closed qualis

pearl glade
#

^ me when i win cats tail

night token
#

Ima speed run on mastering the new cards before the tourney

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Been slacking off a lot cause of Honkai Star Rail

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I'll probably win less this season

gleaming parcel
#

I’ll be lucky if I win at all.

ember river
#

Can someone tell me where is the rulebook for cats tailing plz?

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Is it like the prince cup 3 different decks and BO3?

thorny oyster
ember river
white cipher
nocturne barn
#

Has some find a good use for the plunge/charge attack cards?

safe plaza
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Plunge attack card is SUPER situational because there are better things to play

night token
#

If a player has thundering manifestation, klee, and, bennett, is is preferred to have its talent card in the first round?

thorny oyster
night token
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When I said it, I mean the Thundering Manifestation since it has no pronouns

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and its talent card

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So Benny's talent card & TM's talent card in the first hand?

nocturne barn
#

i would say it depends more on the enemy characters if you keep TM talent card or not

pearl fern
#

TM talent card is almost never a bad keep. You're quite likely to redraw it into a new card right away

thorny oyster
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:despairge:

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after that game i never revealed the card early

pearl fern
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Yeah you pretty much play it when you activate it

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Same as all the draw effects

olive spire
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i'm new to the tournament thing but hi

slow mason
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hi hi

rich pecan
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welcome Ayayaka

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its my first time back in a while as well

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def not only here for the new card back

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and i finally found a deck i like

hallow lance
shadow wave
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do we know how many wins for the card back?

twilit lodge
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3

drowsy wharf
#

is the card back the same as the dragonspine one?

hallow lance
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similar, its for the chasm

pearl fern
#

it's pretty different looking as a side by side

rose perch
#

this is the only one that matters

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This is just participation back.

thorny oyster
rose perch
#

ya golden is this year's prince cup prize

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gated behind not only being good at tcg but you have to go to the live event and have your face revealed...

supple marsh
#

well that's the price of going pro, I guess

pearl fern
#

technically if I remember gold backs were for T16

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so if you didn't make T8 you got the back but didn't have to be at the live event

ember river
#

no it's for top 8

pearl fern
#

did they announce this one differently? Pretty sure last series of prince cups awarded them to T16

ember river
#

it was top 8 😦

pearl fern
#

oh weird I somehow remember it going to t16 oops

thorny locust
#

so what do u do after u win or lose a match ?, does it add to ur score or do u do it manualy

thorny oyster
#

but you need to state if you actually lose or win in the discord first

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and at the end of the season i think they have some kind of backend system to check for disputes

eternal musk
pearl glade
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definitely more than 8 golden cardbackers on na server rmm 🤔

thorny locust
#

when will the matches start

tropic slate
white cipher
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good luck everyone

rotund lichen
#

a card back only being available in one particular season is stressful

trail leaf
#

oh oops was already answered nvm

crystal tapir
#

how does azdaha absorbsion work

tropic slate
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if azhdaha uses his geo elemental skill, and it causes a crystallize reaction, then he absorbs that element.
If azhdaha uses his non-geo elemental skills, or his geo elemental skill without causing a crystallize reaction, or equips his talent, he gets a status. When he takes elemental damage he will then absorb that element (if it's not the one he curretly has absorbed)

pliant otter
#

Is the structure of the preliminary rounds outlined somewhere? Number you can play per day and such?

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Do we know how many people are in the event since registration closed this morning?

crystal tapir
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5 game/day for 7 days

pliant otter
#

Do you need to do them every day or can I do 4 on day 1 and 6 on day 2 for example

crystal tapir
#

it stacks

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you can play 35 games last day if games are fast enough

pliant otter
#

Is this structure laid out somewhere official? Appreciate the details.

gleaming parcel
#

You can do them on different days;
It stacks and it counts your games over the whole season.
Speaking from personal experience, I wouldn’t recommend doing as many as possible in a single day

pliant otter
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Yeah i won't let them all till the last minute, but I probably can't do five every day so it's nice I can stack a few between days at least.

gleaming parcel
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Yeah; I still personally hate the que times though. They don’t really fit in my schedule at all

pliant otter
#

Do we have a player count for the preliminary rounds?

gleaming parcel
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It’s generally a little over a thousand globally if I’m remembering last season.
Probably only a few hundred in the NA server.
You’re matched with people around the same win rate though, if that’s what you’re worried about.
You don’t have to beat all 1000 people to make it into the knock out round, you just have to have the most match points.

tropic slate
#

the match limit is 5 on the first day, 10 on the second, etc., going up by 5 each day

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until it hits 35 on the last day

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so you can't play more than 5 matches on day 1, but you can defer those matches until a later day if you want

pliant otter
pearl fern
pearl fern
#

Also did not expect to find a big name from mtg here in ctg chat RyoPeek

night token
#

Has anyone having issues with starting the preliminary rounds?

ancient spindle
#

so you just need to go sleep and wait for tmr morning then play

night token
#

Ohh

ember river
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1am eastern time.

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So 10pm tonight for pst

night token
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Sleep playing?

ember river
#

#KokoShock

tropic slate
# ember river 1am eastern time.

technically the preliminary phase begins at 1am, but the first queueing window begins at 8am eastern and ends at 12pm. Then, the second queueing window is from 7pm to 11pm eastern. This continues for the rest of the week.

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You can't queue for matches outside of those two 4-hour periods

ember river
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Oh

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Thank you for clarifying

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Didn’t know

tropic slate
#

please don't wake up at 1am to play cat's tail because it will not work

ancient spindle
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unless you play 3 servers

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smh

tropic slate
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even then, EU queue doesn't upen until an hour after

rotund lichen
#

i want a brain dead coin flip net deck i can use to get three wins

tropic slate
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dvalin + kenki + fischl

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cryo kenki summon -> anemo kenki summon -> either swap to fischl and cast her summon, or use the Abyssal Summons to get an electro hilichurl

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then either starsigns (if you stayed on kenki and got the abyssal summon) or fastswap -> calx (if you swapped into fischl) into kenki burst, on the character who has electro on them, and you do 7+3+3

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it's nearly impossible to come back from

steep pendant
#

Wow kenki's back in?

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Gotta get back into tcg before prelim, anyone up to practice?

tropic slate
#

the problem with this is that it requires you to super-highroll in order to work

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so it's extremely inconsistent and not very common in the meta

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but if you want a diceroll for an easy win, then that's the one for you

thorny oyster
#

i wonder if cn players will invade NA again

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:yaethunk:

tropic slate
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I don't wonder

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it's guaranteed

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just 'cuz you can only participate in serious showdown in one region, doesn't mean you can't still farm for that opportunity in multiple and take whichever goes best

thorny oyster
#

true

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lets see if kamisama can win na ctg again

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wait kamisama isnt in invitational right

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okay he isnt

night token
#

CN players are a whole different level

olive spire
#

does anyone know where I can find the rules for the preliminaries?

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like are there any banned cards?

gleaming parcel
gleaming parcel
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But if there is something specific you can ask

olive spire
#

how many rounds total are there?

thorny compass
#

So how does this work? they have to message me a UID or what?

supple marsh
gleaming parcel
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During the specific queuing periods, you go to #preliminary-queue and press the start button at the bottom.
The instructions are also in the post.
You’ll then match with someone near your win rate.
Both of your uid will be shown, so one of you will join the other’s world (you have to go into coop to do so) and then play a coop match in the tavern 🙂

thorny compass
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Thank you Coryn

supple marsh
#

protip: you might want to ask the other person if their WL is different from yours because that would decide who's joining whose world

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and the other person might not speak the same language as yours so that's something to keep in mind

thorny compass
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Awh, that will make things...difficult

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Thanks for the help you two. Best of luck!

gleaming parcel
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Sometimes you do get matched with people who do almost no talking too lol

supple marsh
thorny compass
#

Do I need to stream while playing?

supple marsh
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for the preliminary round, not necessary

thorny compass
#

Do I need to use the same deck every time or can I change it up?

gleaming parcel
thorny compass
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I almost won worlds at Yugioh, I'm kind of hoping those skills transfer. I need a new water heater.

gleaming parcel
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I’ve never played yugioh, but the strategy of playing tcg games is generally the same competitively
It’s giving yourself the best deck and being familiar with other decks and cards

supple marsh
thorny compass
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Oh I stayed up late thinking NA was playing at 12

gleaming parcel
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It depends on your timezone. I personally can’t play the morning que because it’s so early

thorny compass
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it's 12am here at the moment and according to the queue the first time slot for NA is 7am

gleaming parcel
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Oh you’re in central time

thorny compass
#

is the Queue time based on my time zone?

gleaming parcel
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It’s the same “time” for everyone, but it will be adjusted for your timezone

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7am your time is 6am my time, for example
5am PST
8am EST

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but it’s all the same “time”

thorny compass
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Gotcha~ Coryn do you want to duel? Might as well pratice a bit since I'm up.

gleaming parcel
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I could use some practice, yes!!

thorny compass
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607642329 That's me.

supple marsh
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yep, it's a feature Discord introduced a while ago and it has been really helpful

gleaming parcel
thorny compass
thorny compass
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So suppose I make it to knock out stage, and I need to stream. Do I need to talk in said stream? My kids destroyed my mic... may it rest in pieces Q.Q

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
#

@thorny compass you keep declining 💀

thorny compass
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Oh I didn't see it, hold on

thorny compass
lucid sable
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Sooon

thorny locust
#

will it start in an hour?

dawn knot
#

I think so

pine heron
thorny locust
#

nice

ancient spindle
#

Huh its now

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Oh

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Its 1 more hour

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Smh

thick charm
#

Hello chat

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Rules say we can agree to play Heated Battle right, if both players are okay with that.
But I'm guessing nobody in their right mind would do *this* Heated Battle since it's a draft format right HeheSmile

thorny locust
#

nope lol

fiery vault
#

if you encounter me, just ask, i'll play heated with you

thick charm
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Oh no absolutely not lmao

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I am, for the time being, in my right mind HeheSmile

slow heart
#

Playing heated is better than playing against magic shenanigan tho kek

fiery vault
crystal tapir
#

Feels bad losing to an opponent with 0 dice while having 3 8hp characters

white cipher
#

has anyone faced this issue? i changed my registered uid but my old uid still shows up

crystal tapir
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Maybe you didnt click submit, try messaging the mod bot

white cipher
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i did click submit

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i remember i resubmitted twice, still the old uid

crystal tapir
#

Maybe the bot was down at the time, regardless its best to tell them in modmail to resolve the issue

white cipher
#

thank you

fiery vault
trail leaf
#

wait @burnt glen

burnt glen
#

?

trail leaf
#

i accidentally clicked yes but didn't finish reading

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did you put yourself lose??

burnt glen
#

Ah, I put myself as win

trail leaf
#

oh good

burnt glen
#

yep

summer thicket
#

Im so excited aHamtaroBlissie imma gunna lose haha

summer thicket
#

There any way to cancel my queue
Right after i pressed i realized maybe i should get ready for work instead lol BennettSorry_DalasQuil

summer berry
#

Just let it time out

summer thicket
#

Ok
What if i match against someone tho..?

summer berry
#

You have to confirm anyway

summer thicket
#

i suppose
I dont wanna hafta queue dodge someone.. rip

summer berry
#

Wdym it’s not queue dodging?

supple marsh
# summer thicket Ok What if i match against someone tho..?

ok so as far as I can understand, not confirming a match does not count as a strike; however you will be timed out of the queue for a while (FAQ #19) (this should not matter if you really need to do something important and not just attempting to dodge players)

willow lion
#

whats the point of choosing a language

cursive viper
#

So you can read what the bot says

willow lion
bold widget
#

Everyone on the leaderboard is getting the card back Ayayaka

crystal tapir
#

Cant wait to go 2-33 this tournament!

summer thicket
summer thicket
lucid sable
#

1YatoDead queuing while in class and hoping I dont time out on accident

lucid sable
#

I couldn't squeeze one more match in cuz my opponent wanted to cancel but wouldnt use the cancel command so now Im blocked for 15 mins

night token
#

Is it b/c of the reasoning?

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As in like if you choose specific reasons, there might be a penalty

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But if you choose to write out your reasoning that is understandable then you won't be penalized

barren belfry
#

First time competing here only lvl 5. Any meta decks I should look into? I just want the 3 wins for the card back

brisk shadow
#

||only issue is that if you're not familiar with meta decks in this patch and your opponent is familiar with your deck, you'll prob lose as well AbyssMageCringe ||

barren belfry
#

I just need 3 people to not be familiar then 🫡

shadow wave
#

oo matches already started?

#

praying for a clean 5-0 then quitting

brittle finch
#

can the electro hypostatis still use its talent when frozen or petrified?

tropic slate
#

...I've never checked, but I think probably

brittle finch
#

if lets say signora or a hypostatis dies frozen, if they respawn do they still have that effect?

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forzen/petrified effect

tropic slate
#

yes they are still frozen if they revive

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unless they are thawed by the blow that kills them

brittle finch
#

👍

pearl glade
#

cat

wet bluff
#

Oh this was answered, my b

brittle finch
#

👀

wet bluff
#

A re-revive + turn pass as well

thick charm
#

Was making my spreadsheet for this season and I noticed that the primogem prizes are miscalculated

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they forgor qiqifallen

slow mason
#

let them cook

thick charm
#

ok I feel a bit more comfy sharing my sheet now.
I was 👌 this close to sharing it last season but it bugged and I didn't know what to do about it

It's still bugged but at least I'm warning you of the bug so you don't break it HeheSmile

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If you use the sheet to track your games, make sure to keep at least one win in your results because it would try to divide by zero and go boom. If there's anyone smarter in excel that knows a workaround let me know
Also make a copy for yourself of course so you can edit

pliant otter
#

Is there a website that tracks decklists people used in the single elim rounds of previous events like this? Wondering if there is a better option than pulling them manually out of the youtube videos.

slow mason
#

the meta has changed a bit since the last ctg

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but to answer your question, I don't think there is such a site

cursive gazelle
#

a bit

slow mason
#

"a bit"

thick charm
#

I am not ready to cope with this meta I'm about to get btfo after making minimal changes to my deck to bring in a few new cards

pliant otter
#

Step one in building good decks is knowing what works / has worked in the past and figuring out why.

slow mason
#

I don't know I feel like you have to have the background of what was going on in the meta at the time to understand why something worked in the past

thick charm
#

that's all well and good but what leoric is getting at is like

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this new update was basically a paradigm shift lol

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rather than just big

slow mason
#

you're better off looking at more recent tournaments (though there arent many)

thick charm
#

at least that's my impression 'cause I legit haven't played a game but man I'm already scared of what's about to smack me

cursive gazelle
#

cn has had a lot of tournaments

pliant otter
#

I would also accept deck lists from recent events to make copying things easier. There just really isn't information for this game out there and I'd like a few starting points.

cursive gazelle
#

i guess no keqingmain guide for latest patch yet

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unfortunately most updated info and guides are all in chinese community

slow mason
pliant otter
#

Thanks. I'll dig through there when time permits. Even just having lists to look at would go a long way

sullen walrus
#

Weekly tournament in GITCG discord is the closest thing we have to update meta

thick charm
#

let me steal a post from there for you for convenience

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in the morning

slow mason
#

gitcg always post everyones deck lists so you can look through a lot of them there

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though I can tell you it's just going to be a lot of this

pliant otter
#

The make two dice when you KO someone is busted.

slow mason
#

gilded dreams is worse

slow heart
#

magic package GanyUh

thick charm
#

Yayoi engine scary

pearl glade
#

nanatsuke donya POGGIES

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
#

I’m not saying they don’t exist
I just meant more of “are they really the most popular”

cursive gazelle
#

they are popular in tournaments

gleaming parcel
#

Cause there is that one dude who keeps popping out “sales” charts for character banners but they have been proven false dozens of times because they’re estimates and based on a tiny portion of sales in a specific area

cursive gazelle
#

the image shown is a list of decks that did well in a recent small tournament, not about popularity of decks

gleaming parcel
#

Even most used abyss characters should also be taken with a grain of salt because it’s just a sample of a population and not the whole population

cursive gazelle
#

i thought abyss data were from official sources

gleaming parcel
#

It’s based on a small chuck of Asia server

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It doesn’t take into account Europe and NA

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it’s just a sample

cursive gazelle
#

regardless it's unrelated

gleaming parcel
#

Idk. I’m just saying take it with a grain of salt

cursive gazelle
#

well if you want more data samples, CN does a lot more tournaments and there are a lot of deck performance stats for them

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and they point to these decks being the most popular decks used in those tournaments

gleaming parcel
#

Okay and

cursive gazelle
#

ofc it depends on the tournament format, and thats why there are some variants

gleaming parcel
#

Okay

cursive gazelle
#

so ya to summarize, these are among the most popular decks used in competitive tournaments, with as much data samples to back up the stats as possible

gleaming parcel
#

Okay micheal

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I mean I’m not gonna play any of those decks so I don’t care lol

cursive gazelle
#

oh then why did you ask

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you sounded curious

pearl glade
#

me when i calculate breakpoints

thick charm
arctic valve
slow mason
#

queue now for free wins

pearl glade
#

then i Q

gleaming parcel
pearl glade
#

gonna buy hashbrown for good luck

#

might come clutch

crystal tapir
#

no one beats my leoric

cursive gazelle
pearl glade
#

youre right

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but where to buy fried egg?

#

also idk i dont wanna play at a diner

slow mason
cursive gazelle
#

make ur own

pearl glade
#

if i make my own no good luck

slow mason
cursive gazelle
pearl glade
#

also i cant play at home

gleaming parcel
cursive gazelle
#

csb

gleaming parcel
#

Csb?

pearl glade
#

cs🅱️

ember river
#

is queue up now?

slow mason
#

yes

ember river
#

Thank you

pearl glade
#

Thank you

desert grove
#

Perfect 0-5

gleaming parcel
crystal tapir
#

how is everyone doing rn

ember river
#

oh a hour ago I thought someone said it's another hour

slow mason
#

not awful

crystal tapir
#

q is rigged

slow mason
#

my only loss is to you

crystal tapir
#

keeps giving me good players

tropic slate
#

consider it a preview for tomorrow and onwards

gleaming parcel
crystal tapir
slow mason
#

4-1 is good if you can keep it up the whole week

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but I have a tendency not to

tropic slate
#

the thing it, first day is easiest because no one has many wins

gleaming parcel
#

I can still play 5 more games

crystal tapir
tropic slate
#

later days, if you have a lot of wins you get matched against people with similar wins, so harder matches ensue

crystal tapir
#

i get good opponents every early round

gleaming parcel
#

I’m already doing better than last season so I’m happy

crystal tapir
#

and then lose a few

tropic slate
#

that's because the game knows how great you are

crystal tapir
#

at the end everyone is easy

tropic slate
#

and needs to give you a challenge

crystal tapir
#

like the last 15 games is usually the easiest

#

with maybe 3-4 pros sprinkled in

tropic slate
#

that is not my experience

desert grove
#

So I'm hoping things get easier for me

crystal tapir
#

welp anyways im probably not aiming for top cut this time

gleaming parcel
#

Leave me alone

crystal tapir
#

started learning 4.3 3 days before tournament 💀

crystal tapir
#

half the cards give me a headache

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also magic dice go brrrr

gleaming parcel
pliant otter
#

Is there only one playable deck in this format? Played against the same thing 5 times

tropic slate
#

pretty much only one archetype

crystal tapir
tropic slate
#

which is three unique-element characters and a whole bunch of artifacts

crystal tapir
#

if you mean magic dice its quite popular

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however there are still decks that dont run it

arctic valve
crystal tapir
#

ex ning ls, 2nemo, dp

gleaming parcel
slow mason
pliant otter
#

I understand what a metadeck is. In TCGs that are well balanced you typically have a few.

gleaming parcel
#

I don’t fully understand your question then

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Also I thought I had more rounds I could play since I didn’t play yesterday?
I could only play 5

tropic slate
#

today was the first day

arctic valve
#

the tourney started today

patent ridge
#

any idea how many people in total are in this tournament across all regions?

arctic valve
gleaming parcel
tropic slate
#

oh wait no it was fleur who did

#

never mind

arctic valve
#

hahahaha

#

i was ria

crystal tapir
fathom fog
#

What’s the meta guys? Long time I’m not play the game 😰😰

cursive gazelle
#

quicken meta QiqiLurk

arctic valve
#

but, what type of quicken

#

weapon quicken, alhaitam otk

crystal tapir
#

anything with alhaitam

gleaming parcel
cursive gazelle
crystal tapir
#

under dp

#

do people call the deck dp?

slow mason
#

it's dp wannabe

crystal tapir
#

i dont actually know the name of layla version

#

but its literally the same thing

cursive gazelle
#

layla dp prob

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naw

#

you can still freeze after layla dies

crystal tapir
#

while thats true, if one of your char dies its kinda cooked

gleaming parcel
#

I like letting my characters haunt even after they die 🌝

crystal tapir
#

ahhhhhh

tropic slate
crystal tapir
#

4 good players in a row

#

early q sucks

arctic valve
tropic slate
cursive gazelle
tropic slate
#

morning queue is when the real tryhards, and also the AS invaders, play

arctic valve
#

no no, i won, i lost to birdy

gleaming parcel
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Bird I played you right?
You had the dvalin deck??

crystal tapir
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gonna throw this one tho

tropic slate
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pls don't leak deck sauce

gleaming parcel
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Why

slow mason
crystal tapir
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bruh imagine leaking someone elses deck

gleaming parcel
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I genuinely don’t remember who I played, it was kind of a blur

tropic slate
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i'm trying to catch people by surprise rather than using a perfect meta deck

gleaming parcel
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I mean I don’t use a perfect meta deck either

slow mason
crystal tapir
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you went 4-1

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and hit top 16 before

slow mason
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on day 1

arctic valve
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ill try to not leak leorics deck... BrightChilde

crystal tapir
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🤔

gleaming parcel
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Is there a way to go and see previous matches?

slow mason
thick charm
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then u realize ur deck is still itto kekL

slow mason
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my top 16 was before skilled match making

cursive gazelle
thick charm
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0-2 so far gonna continue now that I dumped my resin on the side game

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no billets btw! billet tax is theft!

slow mason
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I just feel average

arctic valve
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x2

rich pecan
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first match won 💪 just two more left

arctic valve
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gogogo

slow mason
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I can catch people off guard if they don't know me but I lose to most decent players with a meta deck

rich pecan
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whats currently meta

thick charm
rich pecan
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cool

ember river
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lol that's pretty accurate

arctic valve
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i cant find flaws in that logic

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Btw nyahida, welcome back, long time no see you online

slow mason
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yeah somewhat back from the grave

gleaming parcel
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@thick charm I’m current 3-2 which is already a better win rate than my 1-25 last season KEKW

slow mason
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would you teach me your ways?

pliant otter
ember river
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Ahh

crystal tapir
crystal tapir
thick charm
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hard work paying off, you got the card back secured

crystal tapir
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4-0 4-0 4-0 4-0 no way

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whos gonna be the final boss today

rotund lichen
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woohoo for netdecking 3-1 and done until next time card back secured

gleaming parcel
rotund lichen
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3 wins

thick charm
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nope 3

gleaming parcel
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Oh

thick charm
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time to kick back and relax then it's just primos from here

jolly osprey
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3-2, got my card back. im out!

tropic slate
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tcg goes real deep, this is the best time to practice and get into it

jolly osprey
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too many games, too little time

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i still have the tcg challenges and new tcg world fights to do

pearl glade
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fair enough

slow heart
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My sister got her 3 wins for the card back and she is donekek

jolly osprey
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literally a picture of Yayoi cooking up some cancer

thick charm
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2-3 let's go

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I still have like 5k coins locked behind the tavern bosses lol

crystal tapir
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100 primo ggs

tropic slate
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what are you even complaining about with hard matches when you're 5-0

crystal tapir
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because the matches were hard...

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highrolled like 4/5 games

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probably lose if i didnt top deck 2 lyres and a gilded dreams