#[America Server] Discussions
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Could yae work instead??
bennett thunderbird lyney i guess?
but i have no idea if its good
it works tho
i think
What about cards to go with it though. What support cards
The quality makes it hard to read… is that your deck??
because no initial application
no.... its a deck from cn
That doesn’t help me
lemme just send a link from genshincards then
its fischl e -> nahida e round 1
I regularly use Yae - Nahida - Tighnari and I have a orettt solid rotation down but Lyney obviously works differently than nari
you can even foschl e -> lyney prop arrow r1
it depends on the matchup
and stuff
Yeah I don’t know half of these cards by name alone
I told you I don’t want to use Fischl
uh then how would you know it?
other than... name
By the picture???
I also don’t understand why Fischl is better when Yae’s summon lasts for longer
because fischl apply 2 elements round 1, while yae apply it only once
which is huge
and a lot more pressure
Uhh they both only apply electro? Fischl doesn’t apply 2 elements
she applies once on cast, and oz applies another one end of turn
also nvm i cant access card plaza hoyolab on phone
:sadge:
okay???
I mean Yae can apply for up to 4 turns consecutively
game ends in round 3, and yae doesnt have electro application on demand except normal attack 👍
Game doesn’t end in 3 rounds??
I’m also lot looking for the most meta deck ever… I don’t like being told I have to play a certain way and being forced into only using an exact set of cards. I want a good team but still have a say in what I play
most games nowaday ends in round 3 and round 4....
screw off
i didnt force you to play it, i even tell you another option
duh
this guy cant read
no you didn’t actually give me another option
Not really
i give you this option but you keep asking about the first deck, so i keep talking about the first deck
....
ugh I can’t do this conversation again.
Cause it always ends up with people hating me.
Well you’re not helping
I mentioned trying Yae Lyney Nahida as an alternative to Fischl Lyney Nahida and I was shut down immediately
I explained why I was looking at that deck and I was still shut down
I can ping one of my friends and he'll help you properly
Nomad help him
I’m not a him.
you can still play that if you want, im just telling you from my view, which is what i stand because i cant spread misinformation, that why fischl is better, you can still play yae if you want i noone forcing you not to, im just telling why will it be worse than fischl 😔
im not a boy.
Oh sorry
Don’t assume everyone here is a male.
Creamlet 
hi
i remember u
Yeah your view is that I’ll suck unless I play the exact meta deck
And I can’t stand when people have that mindset.
What works for one player doesn’t work for everyone. Heck, what even works for most doesn’t work for everyone.
I do like to at least have fun while I’m playing.
Last time I asked for help here about a specific deck I mentioned characters I wanted to use and people suggested a couple different decks to go with those characters.
Tha wasn’t what happened here at all
yeah
i don't know who this is
guess I won’t get help then, have fun rekindling your admiration or whatever
Bad old days when I used to get farmed by this girl named lalisa
that doesn’t make us feel better
Try me
really bozo
Yup

Be ready to get bullied
if you hit register again and you see your info already on there then you should be all set
stream it i wanna watch
so ig i should be set
We have potato phones and I'm outside 
I can't play now
But for your kind information I'll let you know I can lose to a NPC but surely not against someone named nomadge
Can I please have help building a deck or do I just not matter any more
mercy to opponenet is cruelty to self
bro u lost to me twice in tournaments
and i only lost u once go figure
:clueless:
Please, I lost every game last season . It’s hardly gonna hurt you.
But that’s a horrible mindset to even think that way
Oh really
I don't recall it
I was told I could come here for help, and you’re kicking me out the door

and you don’t even care
relax
its hard to relax when I’m being ignored and refused help
he isn't someone to ask for help he just came back
on the contrary he is on the same page as u probably
despite being told multiple times that this would always be a place to ask for help
aks specific questions
I was just asking for general help
im sure people will answer
I did??
How specific do you want me to be
anyone wanna fight
i wanna see how washed i am
i cant tell the power level of opponent in random queue
fite me
609882669
deck building even I have trouble
i resort to netdecking at this point
giv me a bit to login
how does Lyney’s card work
What would a rotation with Lyney Yae Miko and Nahida look like
What is a general idea for the kind of cards I should use as support
I compared the team to my Nahida Yae nari team and while I feel like I could do something similar with the deck it’s unlikely
How do I play the characters I want to play and still be successful without being in a specific box and not forced to only play with specific cards and not a specific deck where if you don’t play that deck you lose every single match and make a fool of yourself again
How do I not be someone that others look down on as a player with out succumbing to box that is meta
How specific do you really want to be because I’ve asked these questions
And I keep being dismissed
I’m not a top player; I’m new to competitive play and last season was my first season. I got my asked kicked. Destroyed my mental health after losing 15 games in a row in a single day.
Im asking for help and I’m being kicked to the curb despite being told that this server would be otherwise for players that needed help.
I’m not asking for your pity or shame. I’m asking for help.
anaaaannmddd you’re gone again
Fine. Forget it. What’s the point.
If you don’t care just say so.
Enjoy your power.
NA server welcomes you with open arms 
@willow lion i am down to spar sometimes if you want
See you in tavern
Still need to grind cards for NA
Probably yes
i said others will answer
not me
u see im old now
and i don't have the same energy
as before
Yeah will no one has answered period.
No one cares. Period. And that’s been proven
Idk why people assume I was only asking you
If it was a single question to a single person I would have dmed you or pinged you
he has 3 intresting skills
wdym by power, just curious
prop arrow which is his NA other than standard physical
deals 2 pyro
summons a hat
which deals 1 damage end phase
reduces 1 hp
gives one stack
when u do E his E does 3 + no of stacks
They said that helping someone was bad because it’s helping the enemy. That helping others hurts them.
They were also busy marveling over someone who ranked high almost a year ago.
I meant literal power.
and heals no of stacks
his burst deals 3 and summons the same stuff as his NA and gives one stack
so if u do NA amd bhrst than his E will deal 5 damage and heal for 2
What do you mean by NA and E
E is elemental skill
NA is well Normal attack
prop arrow
other than physical standard NA
Ok. Sorry I don’t use pc
idk who who said that or where, but most people are willing to help others people improve !! hopefully no one’s that competitive to the point where they think that “helping people is helping their enemy”
u see not many people are as active as they use to before
It’s also the middle of the night. Most people are asleep.
morning for AS
But this isn’t the Asia discussion channel.
wel this is not asia thread nvm
🌝
oh hm idk what they mean by that 😭
That helping someone is hurtful to themself.
Helping someone is showing them mercy.
Which to them is hurting themself and hurting their chances of winning.
pretty sure that was not meant to be taken literally but whatever
I was told that this was a helpful server, but pretty much everyone that is active here right now at this has ignored me and shut me out.
hm thanks
Well it was.
If it was a joke then it wasn’t a very good one.
why does this vibe remind me of andrew
That’s why I got defensive… the competitive players here are too competitive.
This isn’t the first time either.
Who is Andrew
my old friend
anyhow
lyney has kind of similar role as mona
but u trade fast swap for more damage
I don’t really use Mona so I wouldn’t know how she works
Okay….
mona
Sorry I’m just a bit lost
combined with summons deal efficient damage
Missing your old friend 
I guess yeah
I probably would understand Lyney better once I use him tbh
I’d
Idk
I just really like Lyney and I wanna use him
there is this deck which is getting bit popular consist of lyney fischl and nahida
Nah, I don't want to escalate the situation in a bad way
Yeah that was mentioned, I don’t really like using Fischl though
So I asked about using Yae Miko instead
im sure they’d be willing to help
someone said it would be a bad choice and I’d suck though
You’d be suprised.
It’s pretty 50/50
yeah I just don’t like Fischl
nomad is helping u !! there’s definitely more nice people than people unwilling to help
im not nice 
pls ?
uh
well there’s definitely more people willing to help then unwilling to help !
Yeah, after over an hour of begging and being ignored
ye
probably cause this channel is inactive
I mean no one forced you
Idk.
I’ll probably build him and try a few different decks and just end up failing 
For a moment there I thought you bought nitro again 
whenever u build a deck keep in mind other decks that are popular
and how will it fair against them
what are it's advantages
over others
otherwise the deck will not work
in competitive scene
I don’t know much about that other than people loving summons and raiden
i would more worry about stall decks
as people generally don't know how to play against them
I don’t know what a stall deck is
they drain ur resources by absorbing ur initial damage
while accumulatimg value overtime
u run out of resources and they are flowing in it
but they loose to otk decks
which just overwhelm them with insane damage in a single round
stall decks are difficult to play tough
and takes time to learn
since every move u have to think and come up with plans
since
stalls generally dosent have a standard line or path to follow
mostly intuitive and situationaly adaptive
if u want to build a stall deck
- u need good drawing power and ramp
- high value overtime units and equipment cards
- any kind of disruption or cleanse like forced anemo swap/barb cleanse/freez
- counter play cards like send off , judgment etc
Is that not normal playing?
some decks have standard lines which are obvious
Okaaayyy
so u don't always have to think every move
like fischl E into mona E opening
is pretty standard
u do have to think otherthings or if u want to change ur opening
Yeah
How does matchmaking system work?
You will be matched with a player having similar performance of the same server.
This is from S5 (2023) and is confirmed to not be changed this season. As for what "similar performance" means, I don't really remember if it was similar records (e.g. 6-0 would probably be matched with 6-1, 5-0 or 5-1) or similar winrate.
Though, I think that if it was actually similar winrate then that could be concerning
(e.g. a "25% winrate" player whose record is 1-3 but just to happen to have lost to 3 players of a higher skill tier, vs a 25% winrate player whose record is 3-9)
it's "number of wins", roughly
it will try to match you as close to the same number of wins as it can in a reasonable amount of time
in my experience
I mean how do I play a match
There are specific times when the queue is open. At those times, click "Start" in #preliminary-queue and you'll be put in a queue for up to 10 minutes. If there's an opponent, you will have 60 seconds to confirm your match.
Once both of you have confirmed the match, you'll get a thread to discuss co-op joining, agree on using Heated Battle Mode (if applicable), and report match results.
Try playing 35 games in the last day
do not
And on dp
and against dp
Omgosh similar performance matchups means i have a chance at getting the card back 
It's actually a big chance 
Yoooo lets go 
9% winrate is plenty enough for meeee
no reason not to try
note: 9% winrate will be depressing
also if you play all your 35 matches then you'll get one complimentary circuit point
depends on the queue to be honest
it'll be better if you're on gigacope and mentalize yourself that you'll help someone also get their 9% 
I mean if you're new and playing at the same time as new players then that 9% does become more doable
can't stress this enough, don't save all your games until the weekend
the people that play on Sunday
are the gigachad sweatlords that crunched 105 games because they already play 100 games before breakfast as their morning routine
wish I had that energy
but alas, 5 games a day against actual people is exhausting for me

I mean if you're exhausted you can just try to be more relaxed after the cardback threshold
(don't be too relaxed though, or you'll break competitive integrity)
True but my ocd demands I fill my quota
also I always do my utmost, any less would be an insult to my opponent
||unfortunately i'm bad||
are the queue windows the same as last patch or we dont know yet?
maybe if we happen to rematch and I won I'll pick a different deck I do worse with but that doesn't mean I'm gonna sandbag
not updated yet, but I'd assume they stay the same since it's pretty reasonable for most players
(not talking about multi-queue players though, they don't care one bit about the queue windows)
last tournament i was in i had a 0% winrate so technically 9% would be over a million times my previous winrate 
how did that happen
prolly bc i was using a deck that hadnt been updated since the first patch or two of gitcg...?
and also im a casual tcg player 
i just wanna make decks that i think have an interesting strategy or have my favorite characters hahaha 
I don't have the time to research but if I do I'd 100% try to break the meta (not that when I do it it becomes the new meta anyway)
yeeee break the meta is good stuff
i can only pull that off in the non tcg genshin hahaha
you can probably just update the action cards and stick with the same characters you like, that should be able to get you the 3 wins
perhaps
when i woke up this morning i was like 'what if qiqi dori sayu' bc qiqi and yuegui are two of my favorites
but my brain an hour later is thinking thats a rly bad idea
i needa update that old deck from forever ago anyway..
sayu isn't added in the game yet
oh i meant yaoyao

I struggled with this.
I played 15 games and on a single day and lost every single one.
It’s not always similar performance match ups though.
What about a 1% win rate 🌝
Lol rip people in bad time zones or who work evenings
That’s me, I also got demolished last season.
I prefer playing the characters I like than being a meta slave
@thick charm are you still there :0
yea I'm gonna participate
but I haven't touched any of the new cards
so I have no idea how they even work
Oh I was gonna ask for deck advice actually
I’ve gotten very proficient with my nari Nahida Yae deck
But I wanna try a new one
But if you don’t know the new characters then nevermind (though one deck isn’t as new)
the only one I remotely know is Yelan because I have a friend who's into her and im constantly pestering to participate in tctg
and even still I haven't even unlocked her card
I was looking at a Ayato - Kazuha - Yae deck but idk if that actually works
I also want to try to find a deck that works with Lyney but I’m ????
yea no idea about Lyney
I'd just go to the gitcg discord and steal something from there 
I didn’t know there was a gitcg discord… and idk
The one people threw at me had Fischl in it and I really don’t like using her
So I just don’t know
well you're already using Yae as a substitute Fischl in your deck with Nahida, and from quickly skimming the convo earlier to catch up with chat, you were told about the tradeoffs between them
I have brain too smol to close games quickly so I can't in good faith tell you how important it is/it isn't that she applies electro on cast vs only at the end of the turn
but it is a big difference that keeps her relevant even after so many cards with Electro summons have released
other than that tiny detail with a huge impact yeah Yae is kinda better in most ways so
it's okay to run her as a substitute
Yeah they kinda made it sound like it wasn’t though
Well, I quickly skimmed and don't even remember the deck I only remember there was Yae vs Fischl discussion so I wouldn't know
Plus the whole elephant in the room that I have no idea wtf a Lyney is 
I honestly don't have time to look at the full conversation but if you don't like fish yae is a fine substitute here
Ok lol
I think Yae vs Fischl boils down to Fischl applying more immediate pressure and threatening an Overload during the turn is a lot harder to play around than an end-turn Overload
I’m also not sure what deck to build around him; my instinct is to do something similar to my nari Nahida Yae deck
doesn't Lyney have a summon or something 🤔 ok I should stop beating around the bush and just read his card 
Yee he does
ooh I see
so he also applies pyro and summons a pet to do pyro at the end of the turn
yea I can see why people insisted on Fischl then
that's basically two Overloads vs only 1 + possibly pyro application
his talent does buff damage to opponents affected with Pyro by 2 so maybe you could toy around with that? It's the same damage increase from Overload but without the forward switch and only once per round and without the ability to buff it with Fervent Flames
maybe not super worth it but could be ok
theres a bennett lyney thunder manifestation deck you could try too
I've heard the m i s t a k e is everywhere (because it gud) so you could do that if you want red with purple
and I still don't know what it really does other than single out bully the hell out of a character 
ah so it's just as much of a m i s t a k e as in irl ingame got it
if u need someone who applies electro immediately and does a summon, dori might be an option...?
idk abt the tcg meta or common strats tho
i think u still need the summon at end of r2 though
oh okay
needs a longer duration ig
idk what that deck is or what its gameplan is tbh 
most of the time you go fischl -> nahida to spread seed and get aggravate
another opening is fischl -> lyney if you need the overload
lyney can trigger both burning and overloading which is nice. along with nahida seeds or even burst, the reactions can do a lot of dmg
Ok stupid question but this is my first tournament and I can’t find anything to confirm this info - is it true we need to have more than 1 deck prepared? When do we switch decks if so
you only have to do that if you get to knockouts or in other words if you're in the top 16 of the region by the end of the week
Also is there limitations on what we can have in our decks?
Ty
not in the preliminaries, no
ty sorry for all the questions i just don’t wanna do anything wrong
how do i know if i have successfully register for prelimaries?
There's so many new cards that I have to try and understand their mechanics
I really feel that
Some I can understand while others are complex
But it's fun to try new cards
At least Wanderer has two monster friends that can attack standbys
I just know that the signora should be eliminate in her second phase
her normal attack does 1 of her current element
her skill does 2+1 of her current element (2 immediately, 1 on the opponent's end phase)
as cryo signora, her burst does 4 damage 2 healing, and turns her into pyro
as pyro signora, her burst does 6 damage
she will turn into pyro automatically if she starts the round at 4hp or less
if killed as cryo signora, she will revive with 1hp and turn into pyro
she is actually less complicated than most of the new cards this patch
Time to master her mechanic w/ Childe and Fischl before the 7th
I am ready to go 5-30
Same
beidoubting
I will definitely not be in the top 16, but if I can be ranked 69th, then I'm happy
Can you explain yelan as well? Particular how does she draw cards
- Yelan starts with 1 stack, and can have up to 3. She passively gains 1 stack per round, on end phase.
- Yelan's normal attack does 2 physical damage.
- Yelan's skill does 3 damage and adds 2 stacks.
- When Yelan has at least 2 stacks and uses a normal attack, she loses 2 stacks but the normal attack does hydro instead of physical, and you draw a card.
- Yelan's burst does 1 hydro, and then for this round and the next round, every normal attack you do will be followed up by an extra attack of 2 hydro damage.
The most basic strategy with yelan is usually to start on her (1 stack), use skill (3 stacks, apply hydro), then normal attack (down to 1 stack, apply hydro again, draw a card), then ramp with your remaining dice. On end phase, you recover one stack, so you're now at 2. Next starting phase, use normal attack (down to 0 stacks, apply hydro, draw another card), and then you have enough energy to burst so you can go from there
you can also not start on her and just use normal on round 2 for a card draw right? Or do you need to use her for the passive to start being active
for just card draw you can do that yet
but yelan doesn't really have much power of her own - other than the utility of the card draw, she's mainly useful for setting up her burst for your teammates
the longer you wait before starting to set that up, the more tools your opponent has to interrupt it
If the game doesn't have the oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale card, I will be sad
inb4 TCG challenge where you have to do the OMdAC dance whenever that card's played
Rather 30-5? 
btw yelan's passive + artifact magic is so good
yelan OTK is fun
Gg wp
gg
dang you guys are playing early in the morning
we randomly matched into each other
so funny
LMAOOOOO
GG

If i can see this is bc I'm registered, right? 
no
i havent registered
How many decks do we need to register?
Oh cool
can i switch decks in between rounds in the prelims or do i have to choose one and stick to it
no restrictions apply in prelims, you can use one deck for one match and decide if you want to keep using it or swap it out for the next match
👍 ty
#tournament-updates probably the best updates CTG has ever seen
i hope everyone reads them
yeah you can, but i don't know why they say they are 'not encouraging it'
Not encouraging it cuz if you make it to the serious showdown on 2 servers you are dq.
What is "serious showdown" supposed to be anyway? I can't find any information on it.
i’m pretty sure it’s the equivalent to the closed qualifiers from last time
where top 24 from ctg and 8 from wild card qualify for it
by the sounds of it though serious showdown only qualifies you into the closed quali's alongside wild card and then you have to get through that to make it to top 16 PC
so it seems like an extra step from before?
where it was just CTG results directly leads to closed qualis
We'll get more info later
Ima speed run on mastering the new cards before the tourney
Been slacking off a lot cause of Honkai Star Rail
I'll probably win less this season
I’ll be lucky if I win at all.
Can someone tell me where is the rulebook for cats tailing plz?
Is it like the prince cup 3 different decks and BO3?
for prelims its just bo1, no deck restriction
Thank you

Has some find a good use for the plunge/charge attack cards?
Heavy strike very good in normal attack focused decks
Plunge attack card is SUPER situational because there are better things to play
If a player has thundering manifestation, klee, and, bennett, is is preferred to have its talent card in the first round?
you want to have bennett talent when you burst with him yes
When I said it, I mean the Thundering Manifestation since it has no pronouns
and its talent card
So Benny's talent card & TM's talent card in the first hand?
i would say it depends more on the enemy characters if you keep TM talent card or not
TM talent card is almost never a bad keep. You're quite likely to redraw it into a new card right away
i once had a game against glass jp where they play around tm talent
:despairge:
after that game i never revealed the card early
i'm new to the tournament thing but hi
welcome 
its my first time back in a while as well
def not only here for the new card back
and i finally found a deck i like
shake on it 🤝
do we know how many wins for the card back?
3
is the card back the same as the dragonspine one?
similar, its for the chasm
it's pretty different looking as a side by side
this one is pc ?
ya golden is this year's prince cup prize
gated behind not only being good at tcg but you have to go to the live event and have your face revealed...
well that's the price of going pro, I guess
technically if I remember gold backs were for T16
so if you didn't make T8 you got the back but didn't have to be at the live event
no it's for top 8
did they announce this one differently? Pretty sure last series of prince cups awarded them to T16
oh weird I somehow remember it going to t16 oops
so what do u do after u win or lose a match ?, does it add to ur score or do u do it manualy
it auto adds
but you need to state if you actually lose or win in the discord first
and at the end of the season i think they have some kind of backend system to check for disputes
top16 in China
maybe you were thinking of south americans too
definitely more than 8 golden cardbackers on na server rmm 🤔
when will the matches start
gold card backs aren't for cats tail gathering at all, only for prince cup
good luck everyone
a card back only being available in one particular season is stressful
is this for knockout phase or for prince cup?
oh oops was already answered nvm
how does azdaha absorbsion work
if azhdaha uses his geo elemental skill, and it causes a crystallize reaction, then he absorbs that element.
If azhdaha uses his non-geo elemental skills, or his geo elemental skill without causing a crystallize reaction, or equips his talent, he gets a status. When he takes elemental damage he will then absorb that element (if it's not the one he curretly has absorbed)
Is the structure of the preliminary rounds outlined somewhere? Number you can play per day and such?
Do we know how many people are in the event since registration closed this morning?
5 game/day for 7 days
Do you need to do them every day or can I do 4 on day 1 and 6 on day 2 for example
Is this structure laid out somewhere official? Appreciate the details.
You can do them on different days;
It stacks and it counts your games over the whole season.
Speaking from personal experience, I wouldn’t recommend doing as many as possible in a single day
Yeah i won't let them all till the last minute, but I probably can't do five every day so it's nice I can stack a few between days at least.
Yeah; I still personally hate the que times though. They don’t really fit in my schedule at all
Do we have a player count for the preliminary rounds?
It’s generally a little over a thousand globally if I’m remembering last season.
Probably only a few hundred in the NA server.
You’re matched with people around the same win rate though, if that’s what you’re worried about.
You don’t have to beat all 1000 people to make it into the knock out round, you just have to have the most match points.
it's like windtrace and etc
the match limit is 5 on the first day, 10 on the second, etc., going up by 5 each day
until it hits 35 on the last day
so you can't play more than 5 matches on day 1, but you can defer those matches until a later day if you want
So still max 35 for the week though. Like the structure. Much better than a massive one day event with hundreds of players
Oh thanks that's why i remember t16, you're right! My bad in the error thanks for the corrections
Also did not expect to find a big name from mtg here in ctg chat 
Has anyone having issues with starting the preliminary rounds?
its next morning for NA
so you just need to go sleep and wait for tmr morning then play
Ohh
Sleep playing?
#
technically the preliminary phase begins at 1am, but the first queueing window begins at 8am eastern and ends at 12pm. Then, the second queueing window is from 7pm to 11pm eastern. This continues for the rest of the week.
You can't queue for matches outside of those two 4-hour periods
please don't wake up at 1am to play cat's tail because it will not work
even then, EU queue doesn't upen until an hour after
i want a brain dead coin flip net deck i can use to get three wins
dvalin + kenki + fischl
cryo kenki summon -> anemo kenki summon -> either swap to fischl and cast her summon, or use the Abyssal Summons to get an electro hilichurl
then either starsigns (if you stayed on kenki and got the abyssal summon) or fastswap -> calx (if you swapped into fischl) into kenki burst, on the character who has electro on them, and you do 7+3+3
it's nearly impossible to come back from
Wow kenki's back in?
Gotta get back into tcg before prelim, anyone up to practice?
the problem with this is that it requires you to super-highroll in order to work
so it's extremely inconsistent and not very common in the meta
but if you want a diceroll for an easy win, then that's the one for you
I don't wonder
it's guaranteed
just 'cuz you can only participate in serious showdown in one region, doesn't mean you can't still farm for that opportunity in multiple and take whichever goes best
true
lets see if kamisama can win na ctg again
wait kamisama isnt in invitational right
okay he isnt
CN players are a whole different level
does anyone know where I can find the rules for the preliminaries?
like are there any banned cards?
No
But if there is something specific you can ask
ah ok thank you
how many rounds total are there?
So how does this work? they have to message me a UID or what?
both players' UID will be in the dedicated match thread once it's created
During the specific queuing periods, you go to #preliminary-queue and press the start button at the bottom.
The instructions are also in the post.
You’ll then match with someone near your win rate.
Both of your uid will be shown, so one of you will join the other’s world (you have to go into coop to do so) and then play a coop match in the tavern 🙂
Thank you Coryn
protip: you might want to ask the other person if their WL is different from yours because that would decide who's joining whose world
and the other person might not speak the same language as yours so that's something to keep in mind
Awh, that will make things...difficult
Thanks for the help you two. Best of luck!
Sometimes you do get matched with people who do almost no talking too lol
their CTG display language will also be shown in the match thread alongside their UID to accommodate that, however, so less worries
Do I need to stream while playing?
for the preliminary round, not necessary
Do I need to use the same deck every time or can I change it up?
That’s only for the knock out round; most people don’t make it into that round
I almost won worlds at Yugioh, I'm kind of hoping those skills transfer. I need a new water heater.
I’ve never played yugioh, but the strategy of playing tcg games is generally the same competitively
It’s giving yourself the best deck and being familiar with other decks and cards
oh btw just to answer this: there are no deck restrictions in prelims, so you can use any deck for each match
Oh I stayed up late thinking NA was playing at 12
It depends on your timezone. I personally can’t play the morning que because it’s so early
it's 12am here at the moment and according to the queue the first time slot for NA is 7am
Oh you’re in central time
is the Queue time based on my time zone?
It’s the same “time” for everyone, but it will be adjusted for your timezone
7am your time is 6am my time, for example
5am PST
8am EST
but it’s all the same “time”
Gotcha~ Coryn do you want to duel? Might as well pratice a bit since I'm up.
I could use some practice, yes!!
607642329 That's me.
yep, it's a feature Discord introduced a while ago and it has been really helpful
Okie! Just give me a minute to log in
I haven't used discord since the dark ages of Among us.
No rush.
So suppose I make it to knock out stage, and I need to stream. Do I need to talk in said stream? My kids destroyed my mic... may it rest in pieces Q.Q
only the matches for first 3 places will be streamed, i dont believe voice is needed
@thorny compass you keep declining 💀
Oh I didn't see it, hold on
Try now!
Sooon
will it start in an hour?
I think so
Yup 56 mins from now
nice
Hello chat
Rules say we can agree to play Heated Battle right, if both players are okay with that.
But I'm guessing nobody in their right mind would do *this* Heated Battle since it's a draft format right 
nope lol
yes i assume you want to play it
if you encounter me, just ask, i'll play heated with you
Playing heated is better than playing against magic shenanigan tho 

WE CAN DODGE THE MAGIC META

Feels bad losing to an opponent with 0 dice while having 3 8hp characters
has anyone faced this issue? i changed my registered uid but my old uid still shows up
Maybe you didnt click submit, try messaging the mod bot
Maybe the bot was down at the time, regardless its best to tell them in modmail to resolve the issue
thank you

wait @burnt glen
?
Ah, I put myself as win
oh good
yep
Im so excited
imma gunna lose haha
There any way to cancel my queue
Right after i pressed i realized maybe i should get ready for work instead lol 
Just let it time out
Ok
What if i match against someone tho..?
You have to confirm anyway
i suppose
I dont wanna hafta queue dodge someone.. rip
Wdym it’s not queue dodging?
ok so as far as I can understand, not confirming a match does not count as a strike; however you will be timed out of the queue for a while (FAQ #19) (this should not matter if you really need to do something important and not just attempting to dodge players)
whats the point of choosing a language
So you can read what the bot says
oh
Everyone on the leaderboard is getting the card back 
Cant wait to go 2-33 this tournament!
Thank you !! It worked out in the end i think !
Oh, i thought queue dodging was anytime u cancel the queue after matching up with someone 
queuing while in class and hoping I dont time out on accident
I couldn't squeeze one more match in cuz my opponent wanted to cancel but wouldnt use the cancel command so now Im blocked for 15 mins
Is it b/c of the reasoning?
As in like if you choose specific reasons, there might be a penalty
But if you choose to write out your reasoning that is understandable then you won't be penalized
First time competing here only lvl 5. Any meta decks I should look into? I just want the 3 wins for the card back
||only issue is that if you're not familiar with meta decks in this patch and your opponent is familiar with your deck, you'll prob lose as well
||
can the electro hypostatis still use its talent when frozen or petrified?
...I've never checked, but I think probably
if lets say signora or a hypostatis dies frozen, if they respawn do they still have that effect?
forzen/petrified effect
yes they are still frozen if they revive
unless they are thawed by the blow that kills them
👍
cat
Yes, it's pretty good lol
I play cube a lot
Oh this was answered, my b
👀
A re-revive + turn pass as well
Was making my spreadsheet for this season and I noticed that the primogem prizes are miscalculated
they forgor 
let them cook
ok I feel a bit more comfy sharing my sheet now.
I was 👌 this close to sharing it last season but it bugged and I didn't know what to do about it
It's still bugged but at least I'm warning you of the bug so you don't break it 
If you use the sheet to track your games, make sure to keep at least one win in your results because it would try to divide by zero and go boom. If there's anyone smarter in excel that knows a workaround let me know
Also make a copy for yourself of course so you can edit
Is there a website that tracks decklists people used in the single elim rounds of previous events like this? Wondering if there is a better option than pulling them manually out of the youtube videos.
previous events wouldn't be great if you're trying to find a deck to play in this format
the meta has changed a bit since the last ctg
but to answer your question, I don't think there is such a site
a bit
"a bit"
I am not ready to cope with this meta I'm about to get btfo after making minimal changes to my deck to bring in a few new cards
Yeah, obviously balance passes aand new cards, but being able to look over choices better players made for events lets you build up heuristics for how decks are built in a more general theory perspective.
Step one in building good decks is knowing what works / has worked in the past and figuring out why.
I don't know I feel like you have to have the background of what was going on in the meta at the time to understand why something worked in the past
that's all well and good but what leoric is getting at is like
this new update was basically a paradigm shift lol
rather than just big
you're better off looking at more recent tournaments (though there arent many)
at least that's my impression 'cause I legit haven't played a game but man I'm already scared of what's about to smack me
cn has had a lot of tournaments
I would also accept deck lists from recent events to make copying things easier. There just really isn't information for this game out there and I'd like a few starting points.
i guess no keqingmain guide for latest patch yet
unfortunately most updated info and guides are all in chinese community
I'm somewhat blind to what happens in cn but you could look through the tournaments channel in the gitcg server #🤝partnered-servers message
Thanks. I'll dig through there when time permits. Even just having lists to look at would go a long way
Weekly tournament in GITCG discord is the closest thing we have to update meta
let me steal a post from there for you for convenience
https://fxtwitter.com/invokationtcg/status/1744331414060060807?s=20 oh hey this was just posted
in the morning
gitcg always post everyones deck lists so you can look through a lot of them there
though I can tell you it's just going to be a lot of this
The make two dice when you KO someone is busted.
gilded dreams is worse
magic package 
Yayoi engine scary
nanatsuke donya 
Thanks for sharing!
How true is this though??
these are all decks used in competitive tournaments, or variants of those decks
I’m not saying they don’t exist
I just meant more of “are they really the most popular”
they are popular in tournaments
Cause there is that one dude who keeps popping out “sales” charts for character banners but they have been proven false dozens of times because they’re estimates and based on a tiny portion of sales in a specific area
the image shown is a list of decks that did well in a recent small tournament, not about popularity of decks
Even most used abyss characters should also be taken with a grain of salt because it’s just a sample of a population and not the whole population
i thought abyss data were from official sources
It’s based on a small chuck of Asia server
It doesn’t take into account Europe and NA
it’s just a sample
regardless it's unrelated
Idk. I’m just saying take it with a grain of salt
well if you want more data samples, CN does a lot more tournaments and there are a lot of deck performance stats for them
and they point to these decks being the most popular decks used in those tournaments
Okay and
ofc it depends on the tournament format, and thats why there are some variants
Okay
so ya to summarize, these are among the most popular decks used in competitive tournaments, with as much data samples to back up the stats as possible
diona mathz
me when i calculate breakpoints
uh this isn't a popularity chart this is literally the players that won a tournament
nooooooooooooooo, youre the man, i trust you
queue now for free wins
Okay
That’s assuming we match with you.
I need the wins but I doubt I’ll match with you
no the true saviour is obviously egg

youre right
but where to buy fried egg?
also idk i dont wanna play at a diner
when did I become yours?
make ur own
you crack an egg and throw it into the frying pan

also i cant play at home
Raw eggs used to be given to women trying to become pregnant in renaissance times because it was believed it would increase their chances 
csb
Csb?
cs🅱️
is queue up now?
yes
Thank you
Thank you
Perfect 0-5
It’s been up for an hour
how is everyone doing rn
oh a hour ago I thought someone said it's another hour
q is rigged
my only loss is to you
keeps giving me good players
consider it a preview for tomorrow and onwards
4-1 is a wining rate
Heck 3-2 is a win rate
cardback secured!
the thing it, first day is easiest because no one has many wins
Dude today is my first day playing in the tournament
I can still play 5 more games
nah bro every tournament
later days, if you have a lot of wins you get matched against people with similar wins, so harder matches ensue
i get good opponents every early round
I’m already doing better than last season so I’m happy
and then lose a few
that's because the game knows how great you are
at the end everyone is easy
and needs to give you a challenge
that is not my experience
So I'm hoping things get easier for me
yea keep up the great work good improvement!
welp anyways im probably not aiming for top cut this time
Leave me alone
started learning 4.3 3 days before tournament 💀
At the very least you’ll be more familiar with decks and cards so it should feel easier
Best of luck to you!!
Is there only one playable deck in this format? Played against the same thing 5 times
pretty much only one archetype
no the meta isnt very centralized rn actually
which is three unique-element characters and a whole bunch of artifacts
if you mean magic dice its quite popular
however there are still decks that dont run it
4-1
ex ning ls, 2nemo, dp
A lot of people use meta decks
Ones people find online that they copy and paste
Some know how to use them and others don’t
On the plus side if you see it often enough you get good practice
Thank you!
there's a ton of decks but basically only one engine
I understand what a metadeck is. In TCGs that are well balanced you typically have a few.
I don’t fully understand your question then
Also I thought I had more rounds I could play since I didn’t play yesterday?
I could only play 5
today was the first day
the tourney started today
any idea how many people in total are in this tournament across all regions?
birdyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, you snatched my 5-0, why arent you on the 5-0 score
I thought it said it started 1/7
aidenweisssssss, you snatched my 5-0, why aren't you on the 5-0 score
oh wait no it was fleur who did
never mind
i would consider the following to be "meta"
nahida +2 summon chars
2nemo
death penalty
life sentence
MEW
yelan OTK signora station
yelan OTK freeze
pyroKeq (rare but quite good)
boss SC
quicken
What’s the meta guys? Long time I’m not play the game 😰😰
quicken meta 
anything with alhaitam
dps diona
It changes.
But you don’t have to oblige by it
wheres layla dhydro on this list
it's dp wannabe
while thats true, if one of your char dies its kinda cooked
I like letting my characters haunt even after they die 🌝
ahhhhhh
not necessarily, xingqiu can carry if you draw aquila
sht up, that deck almost got me, i wasnt prepared
oh there's your problem
sorry for your loss for running into the deck 
morning queue is when the real tryhards, and also the AS invaders, play
no no, i won, i lost to birdy
Bird I played you right?
You had the dvalin deck??
issok still 3-0 rn
gonna throw this one tho
that wasn't me, but we did play
pls don't leak deck sauce
Why
I genuinely don’t remember who I played, it was kind of a blur
i'm trying to catch people by surprise rather than using a perfect meta deck
I mean I don’t use a perfect meta deck either
don't count me as a good player
on day 1
ill try to not leak leorics deck... 
🤔
Is there a way to go and see previous matches?
and lost instantly
itto dead 
then u realize ur deck is still itto 
my top 16 was before skilled match making
you can go to prince and view last 3 matches
0-2 so far gonna continue now that I dumped my resin on the side game
no billets btw! billet tax is theft!
I just feel average
x2
first match won 💪 just two more left
gogogo
I can catch people off guard if they don't know me but I lose to most decent players with a meta deck
whats currently meta

cool
which deck did u encounter
lol that's pretty accurate
i cant find flaws in that logic
Btw nyahida, welcome back, long time no see you online
yeah somewhat back from the grave
@thick charm I’m current 3-2 which is already a better win rate than my 1-25 last season 
would you teach me your ways?
Dendro Electro Lenny 4x and then one just Quicken
Ahh
sounds about right maybe its time to play the anti meta deck xD
thanks! been mostly gonge since after prince cup xD
holy hell well done
hard work paying off, you got the card back secured
woohoo for netdecking 3-1 and done until next time card back secured
Didnt the card back require 5 wins?
3 wins
nope 3
Oh
time to kick back and relax then it's just primos from here
3-2, got my card back. im out!
consider playing the rest, just for fun
tcg goes real deep, this is the best time to practice and get into it
too many games, too little time
i still have the tcg challenges and new tcg world fights to do
fair enough
My sister got her 3 wins for the card back and she is done
100 primo ggs
what are you even complaining about with hard matches when you're 5-0


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