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And I want to make sure I say this in a nicer way, but on some level if you don't have time to invest more time into TCG and you're not enjoying it is ok to accept that CTG isn't for you and not how you want to engage with TCG. Which sucks but if you have other commitments then in some level you have to accept that at some point.
It's that or invest more time to improve
What he's trying to say is, if you wanna win at competetive tcg, you'll have to improve instead of complaining about matchmaking and not accepting peoples answers to you
Have some cute klee
I mean I’ve spent some money on genshin but I’ve grinded genshin too just by game play
I’ve grinded plenty of other games too and when I get to bosses I can’t figure out how to beat, I practice and try different approaches and change my build/team/characters try to figure it out how to win
I’m capable of doing that, and I’ve done that
i can guarantee you that if you netdecked some top tournament decks and stuck and practiced with that deck for awhile you wouldnt be losing every game
you dont have to of course, but at a competitive level you definitely cant just bring whtaever, play like whatever and expect to be winning
That idea wasn't communicated in the best way, but in some sense that's what ppl are trying to say I think
And I’ve done that but every time I say that I’ve put in active and multiple efforts to improving, my words just fall on deaf ears and no one listens
like people refuse to believe that I actually DID put in effort to improve
Wdym nobody listened this whole chat is just about you since yesterday
Lieil offered you practicing partner. I would take up that offer later when you have time
where?
I have practice with Coryn before
ok so heres some timeline for everyone to clarify - coryn did badly in last season -> got helped on deckbuilding -> improved
ok time to not look at this convo again
workge
Yeah, everyone just said “you’re not doing enough,” or “give up your life if you wanna be good” “you didn’t actually put in effort”
Maybe I can do more than just sparring partner hmm
My points so far
- the more you practice the better youll become
- not everyone can achieve the same things (ex i cant be the fastest runner even if i trained to death)
- just play for fun (improving is my way of having fun so ill quit if i dont feel like im improving) everyone is different, you can just enjoy game, you can play to be the beat, you can play ti collect card, no right of wrong
- we are not trying to attack you, you dont have to keep bringing up that youre getting harassed and have low self esteem and 2 jobs. If we didnt care we would have left
- we know you have practiced, but others simply practiced more
It’s all just being dismissed despite me saying in detail what exactly I’ve done to try to improve
point is, you've made efforts to improve after your participation in the last season finished. so everyone saying you "havent exhausted all methods to improvement and that's why you did badly in tournament" is quite valid
Review games are usually good learning
Some of those were during season too though
so stop getting hung up on the fact that you did poorly last season. you've made improvements that will showcase themselves next season if you still wish to participate
iirc you said you could only play 1 day throughout the last season. and it was after that day that you received a lotta help from the ppl here
It’s hard not to get hung up when people have talked about raising the bar for the card back requirement and adding more rewards that are unattainable to players like me who are still learning.
It’s hard to not have zero confidence in myself that while I did make efforts to improve, I still might lose every single match. I played multiple practice matches after the changes and I still lost every single one
Thats is NOT what we said - your statement just shows our problem here, you are constantly saying that youre getting bullied, despite even content creators and tournament winners explaining things to you in the most simple way possible, jesus you even said that we harassed you. Just calm down if we hated you there wouldnt be so many people in this conversation. I am just saying: you put words in our mouths which we never said, relax a bit
Not everyone can attain every reward, such is life
If you want to refute our points at least have us agree with our own points yea?
Yesterday people here literally said I wasn’t doing enough to get better and that I should quit
on a side note could you stop generalizing the community negatively
most people here are chill and usually help each other a lot

looked into this chat for the first time in months and ooh boy not a good time
Exactly
Everyone has different ways of helping, you may not agree with us all but you cant refute that we are indeed trying to help
but the thing is, even the 3-win cardback is a reward for ppl who have put some kind of effort into the game. the fact that you didn't receive help from the good players here before the tournament, and ended up doing poorly just showcases this.
the 3-win cardback is not a participation reward
Maybe it wasn't said nicely, but it sound like you feel like you should deserve results based on time invested but that's not the case.
No matter how much you practiced if that didn't get the results you want, then yes it's perfectly reasonable that you need to do more to improve. If your are already doing the most you can then "just quit" may be a bit blunt to put it, but yes you need to reevaluate how you engage with TCG
Be it a comment etc is helpful or not, most ppl here do not have bad intention. Words are complicated, context required. If things doesn't click, move on
Yea blep thats a better way of saying it
I suck at sugar coating and getting words across and probably offended some people who didnt understand
Thanks
Seeing blep stating his point of view makes me so satisfied cuz its just beautyful 
did you mention the right person?

You’re all just trying to prove me wrong and not offer any actual help 
Here we go again
But I have put effort in to the game, I was rank 10 with playing… it’s not like I just picked up tcg the day before the competition
experience of playing against npc literally does not matter when you are facing real players
I played coop games before the tournament as well, I played extra even because I knew I was going to be facing people
copy paste my hot take from another server
Thought wanderer is strong day 1 too. Then after 2 days I retracted that assessment..
simply logging playing hours is not enough to improve at a competitive level. you've received help from this server already so you know what actually makes someone get better
but I didn’t even know this existed until last season
Advertisement for this has been poor
deck building, understanding synergy, optimizing value, etc
If you wanna win at competetive tcg, you'll have to improve. Thats it.
There's no need to prove anything. You are entitled to your frustration at your performance - theres no right or wrong about that.
But objectively speaking most of your comments have been more complaining about the situation than asking for help which is why you're getting the kinds of responses.
If you want actual help then you need to start asking for actual advice and not just want ppl to tell you the system isn't fair
And I’ve been trying to. But you’re telling me my improvement isn’t enough.
You'll need to improve more, yes
Cuz you wanna win competively
ya i think mhy still wants things to be casual friendly
Do you think my improvement will ever be enough?
unfortunately this really is a problem
I don’t wanna win 1st place, but I’d like to win primos and a card back
AoC makes things even worse
Honestly I agree with this.. competitive TCG is tough. Idk when's the last time I got less than 15 losses in CTG 
Yes, how did SI win so much tournaments? He became good at the game

I literally just said my goal isn’t to win a tournament though
if you want 3-win in a tournament, having beaten npc's isnt enough
Most ppl who think they are good.....
How you look to improve matters just as much as how much raw time you sink into it. I'll say honestly there's some issues I see with mentality that'll make it difficult to get results in a competitve setting yes. You'll need to work on some stuff and not just putting more hours into TCG
having some pvp experience in random mm or even aoc isnt enough
It's broken in literal sense aka it sucks #hater
I literally also said I’ve played people in coop
again, logging playing hours isnt enough
And even did extra coop matches before the tournament to practice
Thats not f- enough, ok?
That is not enough. This is competition. Ppl here have experience
I feel like there is 2 way of improving:
1 you play a large amount of games and review all your mistake and what you need to improve on by yourself or with other people (take longer)
2 Get a meta deck, ask what you are suppose to do with it, play (short term improvement that can get you wins, but doesn't really improve your player skill)
So practicing, getting more comfortable with my cards and decks, and understanding other i cards and comps I may face isn’t enough?
Appearently not, if it was, you'd be winning
If that isn’t enough then what is?
I recommened choice 2 if you don't have a lot of time
Omg
And that’s my point.
I can do everything “right” but apparently I’m still failing and I don’t know why
There is no way you can understand 100% what is happening in pvp everytime. Esp with closed Decklist format here
I send my sister a "meta deck" and give her what she need to do for the first 3 rounds and she got more than 5 wins out of 10
there are other ways, but these are the most obvious and probably where people should really start
She only play npc and match with friends that are all pve player

Yeah people can just bring whatever 
I’ve been using Yae - Nahida - Tighnari
Most of my cards are doubles… I just I don’t know
If I ask sth like stonehide lotus Totm geores proc order, half of the competitive player here won't be able to answer me either
QC is a not a high tier meta deck either
sound like you need to abooze some meta in deck
I love the deck don't get me wrong cuz it is fun
did you use this deck in last season's tournament and lost all games with it though?
Abooze?
Shenhe SC 
No
meta deck abusing
exactly ._.
But playing QC last season is kinda hell
i meant that
The easy deck I recommended to my sister was Wanderer mona eula 
I used Cyno - Tighnari - kokomi last season
And I was advised that it wasn’t a very good deck
and people told you why last season already
Oh no that is gotta be as hellish as it sounds
I was thinking about giving shenhe sc to my sister but it prove to be too complicated for her
yup just abooze it
So people gave me advice and I switched to Yae - Nahida and Tighnari and gave me advice with orders and cards to use

If you are not that good, play shenhe SC, it is not terrible on auto pilot
so if you need more help on yae qc, or want an another meta deck to compete this tournament, ppl here are happy to assist
Yae QC is better than cyno
kokomi surely, but with shenhe SC and DIN everywhere uhh
Oh yeah I recommended it to one of my friend and they seem to struggle with it.. though my other friend was winning with it. Maybe it depends on each person 
but if you just wanna complain about how poorly you performed, no one here should entertain you since you got the advice you needed already
The most straightforward decks to pilot are probably combo. You can just try to force the combo line every game until it wins
im surprised.. i feel like the standard shenhe sc lines are as simple as MEW
combo decks arent good though
R1 keep these card in your hand(you want these cards): Paimon/liben+instructor/para/vana+Mond arcane
R1 action->Mona skill play paimon/liben and instructor on wanderer/para/vana end
R2 action-> swap wanderer if u draw any of these cards(chang/para/vennessa/instructor) play them and start bonking with wanderer
skill will swirl hydro and na swirl the next char
so if opp don't swap char, you to skill into na into skill into burst
if opp be smart and swap so your na doesn't swirl, you keep skilling instead(note:need a lot of anemo dice)
After Wanderer die opp should also have a char that die and the other 2 should have hydro on them
swap mona and end round, next round swap eula and start freeze shattering
I just give her this along with the decklist 
I’m happy with my deck, i could maybe use a bit of fine tuning and practice (and luck) I just don’t want this tournament to become harder and rewards more unobtainable than it already is/feels
That’s the whole root of it and where this whole argument started last night
I use myself and my experiences as examples a lot, which does open me up to criticism and vulnerability a lot but I dont know how else to present evidence of what I’m saying without using myself as an example
My friend is struggling with Ayamiya, probably it isn't that easy for newbies (?)
Raiden/Candace/Razor is pretty easy to play in most games
It is relatively easy but playing against newer players, I realized they aren't aware of ftk lines or dice counting
Which makes combo a 50/50 bad deck for the casuals
i can definitely see someone putting down parametric and ending the turn before it procs
at some point it'll just work
just don't run card sthat can mess up like para and stuff
Just that while yes, we try to improve and get better to reach the bar, that doesn’t mean the bar should be raised because there will always be players who can’t reach that bar despite how easy that bar may be reachable to some.
Thank you for the notes.. I could use this if my friends asked for decks recommendations 
That was the root of all of this, and I used my failure as an example
Idk how well this person here plays but.. I've seen wasted parametric, put on gamblers when they forgot they need 1 more dice, cov but forgot they ate hash so can't nsc
I dunno feels like it should be a pretty easy deck to play and explain because you kinda just go 123 burst
Idk I feel shenhe SC more braindead
These are problems you solve by playing a deck more
I mean Shenhe SC can be pretty easy to teach too if you just stick to the same opening
Aaanndd no one is listening to me any more
I'm allergic to nec so I can't talk about that
Nec is quite braindead indeed. I'm allergic to it tho
Well maybe I need to start playing this again 🤓
My qverage dice bad
I’ve actually calmed down but damn….
You are missing the fact that the conversation is actively about trying to find decks that are easy to teach to newer players and have them succeed with. No one is ignoring you, we are simply on a topic that is more productive to help
picking cards to tune is hard
Agree.. 

Picking cards to tune is easier than not having cards to tune at all by r3
No one even acknowledged what I said though
And no one commented on my deck either 
I've commented on your deck
what was your deck again?
only if you posted your deck..
its fine
rogue tier 2-3
I said it is bad matchup against all popular decks from past season
🤔 maybe you can post your whole list
List is important too
You did?
Yeah, I feel like my list is where I need fine tuning
^
idk i think you'd rather play weapon qc than yae qc
we can give you feedback of your list
I have good cards in there and cards to pull more cards but sometimes I just don’t get the cards I need
There were plenty of comments on your deck. And this is a public chat you are not entitled to have your comments acknowledged.
At this point you should really take a step back as it does feel like you are just trying to actively push your own narrative
That is not a decklist
I don’t know how to send a deck list easily
Having draw power could mean you put in wharf or Seelie. That is very different
Can someone give me a rundown of how the meta’s changed since last version?
In different decks it could be a huge terrible stuff
itto is gone, thats about what we know
Itto is nerfed to the ground
Itto got worse, Oceanid + Shenhe has a bit change
bennett decks like pyro keq should see more appearance as well
itto is gone, everyone is coping with nilou, zhongli is back a bit bc itto is gone
lots of stormterror experimentation
Yeah his talent + Sumeru City 2x + Stormterror Lair is so... 
Great, cause I didn’t like using or playing against BIN
Glad to hear Shenhe SC is still usable
Me too 
if you open your deck in game, there should be a share button of some sort top right
I prefer playing against itto than shenhe SC, hot take
But good thing he got nerfed. Altho I hoped the nerf was more still on playable side
Coping..? 😭🤓
Maybe, I just really didn’t like the idea of raising the bar even higher when people can’t each it. I just wanted to be heard on that point.
I wanted acknowledgment that raising the bar and requirements to win any reward was a bad idea.
I wasn’t actively trying to push an agenda, but maybe I was unconsciously. When I spiral and get emotional, I say a lot of things without thinking.
And im sorry.
Just use Noelle :p
nilou cope 
Is that doable in mobile??
I usually play on PlayStation but PlayStation sharing is iffy
yes theres a decklist code share now
I know a lot of people play PC skshdjsk
it will just generate the code for that deck, and you can post ot here
we can paste the code into our own game to view the deck
The reason i like itto is cuz of the mind games and some stack and dice counting. Noelle is too linear in comparison altho I like playing her too
Oh I know there are some ways to send an actual image of the deck with all the cards but idk how to do that
Or just screenshot…?
But I’ll get the code
you need multiple screenshots though, and i personally hating view the deck like that so 
Also I honestly don’t know why they made Nilou bloom a summon, she would be so much better if it was similar to Nahida seed but with Dendro app
being weak to send off is annoying but prob better than having it another way
Sorry my game had to download / update on mobile
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Advice is appreciated ; playing it might also help understand it 
OH THA K YOU
late :0
same brain 🧠
well i think ting recently made a decklist on kqm that altho not my personal cuppa, should be better working than this
one sec
chicken version hmm
i would cut all talents
Why is it called quicken chicken 
bc it rhymes and it uses terrorshroom
cut all artifacts, weapons, jade chamber, katheryne
very good name
no one call jadeplume terrrorshroom
everyone call him chicken

even tho you run nahida, i would read that guy thoroughly.. ting has written quite some valid points in qc deck
chicken is more cute 
I feel like I really need jade chamber though, I get HORRIBLE rolls sometimes, even after refilling
jade chamber is not the dice fixer you need
jade is fine, but in most cases another card would be better
toss up generally should perform better
2 bestest 2 tossup.. problem with jade is the less flexibility where you end turn
idk i would run something like this.. disclaimer i dont play yae quicken..
that is why despite the buffs the card is given, no one play it still
Where is Oblivious's sheet on dice probability?
i would add 2 kingsquire
run gamblers
best card in the game
and 2 kings squires
both are "dice fixers" effectively
kingsquire is a dice fixer and a buff in a card
i dont like ks on tigh 
And I have Katherine because of the legacy (?) card, i was advised that it’s best to used the legacy card when you can defeat 2 characters at ones, and Katherine’s quick swap makes that more achievable
better than the other weapons ur running
if you must run a weapon..
i mean
if there was ever a deck that wanted kath
it would be quicken or nilou
but kath is a really shit card
^
Why
which is
really shocking to me
bc every single casual video in existence promotes kath
idk how
you are always cursed into fast swapping
everyone thinks this shit is good
This looks so different
fast swap is not a strictly positive effect
no one in top 16 in all region play katheryne.. if htere is, prob one deck max

that says a bit already about how bad kath is
the value of a fast swap varies a lot
in fact
on average, a fast swap is worth negative value compared to a slow swap, probably
because it causes you to end your turn too quickly, and your opponent can play the rest of the turn unpressured
meownas deck looks more like what i ran back in 3.7 when i play QC
so being forced to do a fast swap every turn once you put kath down sucks
I just said I mainly only have that card because if the legacy to defeat 2 characters in one turn…
whats legacy
haha i havent played quicken since 4.0
and i only played weapon quicken
yeah but that is 1 slot/30 deckslot you wasted on katheryne
The special one use card, yeah
in any case, you should run leave it to me! instead
^
even in that scenario, its just strictly better
having a one time use fast swap on demand that costs 0 dice is just infinitely better
I don’t fully understand but ok
basically what SI is saying is that
i think you will understand more when a situation comes up in game
if you end your turn too fast
because you ran out of dice
your opponent has free reign to absolutely clobber you and you can't do anything about it
yeah genshincards is blocked 
me hate this server
and Katheryne forcing you to fast swap at least once every turn means you're taking less actions to spend your dice
me love genshincards
anyway post a pic of the deck instead
no I mean post a pic of the genshincards list
heres an example, albeit a bit extreme
BMEB7SIQBAER8oQQCREx9pgQClFx970QDGHB/soRDSKRA9oRDqKRDN4RD7KxD+wRD+EB
here is export code
i hope it works
you have 4 dice left, your oppoennt has 4 as well, they are on raiden and they have chong burst up, you have a kath on the field



wait keq didn't update yet
new feature
ok here
SI has been working so hard to adjust genshincards with in game
o yea I was wondering if he'd do it
im mostly working hard bc im an idiot 
comply with mhy's format
if i started from scratch i could do it in 20 min
you are mostly working on it cuz you are cool
glad to hear you're doing it, you're making a convenient and nice tool for discussion so keep at it
i have no idea how to rearrange a json so props to you
something you can put on resume
/gen
im just making a scuffed list, yep, arguably strategize, quicknit, or even 1 more sendoff somewhere

Yes I understand that part
also, katheryne is easy to play around
How does she force you to swap every turn?
you have a card there declaring next time your opponent swap it is fast swap
every round
a good opponent will make that fast swap become a curse
esp since last season it is itto everywhere and they swap stall alot
I guessss
playing against katheryne is actually making things easy
Idk
I havent experienced Katherine being used against me but I’ll take your word for it
i played an itto mirror last season, the moment the opponent put down their kath (poor them), it was convenient for me to combo everything and one turn kill everything
swap stalling is a legitimate strategy
slow swap back and forth
Ironically itto was the only team i was able to beat last season
everyone was bringing itto cuz of the trend
My single win was against an itto team
Pretty sure when we play kath wasn't helping you much 
I had so many raiden and shenhe’s
I actually didn’t get her that often
but i can see not even all of the top 16 are even great itto pilot
Some cards just refuse to show up for me
But I genuinely didn’t know she could be be abused to hurt me
oh did you get to practice with lieil?
your decklist is 30-40% consisting of cards that are grieving you
well if lieil is kind enough to give practice and game review
i thought it was today lmao
Idk how to give review after the game

I don't bring that to practice :clueless
Not today
i think the rite of tcg maso is to be DP traumatized once
Yo @crystal tapir is it okay if you could show me your aec deck?
I brought 5 decks that I deem normal
I do kinda wanna practice with someone tho
I changed the deck a little with your suggestions
Let me do tavern plays real quick to get a feel
Yea sure thing gimme sec
i suggest you try this with only 2-3 cards deviation,
ive played sth very similar to this before so it is not really scuffed list
tho, i have to say
quicken is in a complicated place in the meta game

Im not a meta slave tbh
I don’t like being forced to play characters I hate
well i still gave you a workable decklist
i just linked it there
I feel blind, I can’t find it

Also I do want to build a deck around Baizhu at some point I just don’t know who he would go with
baizhu nilou is sth ppl have been playing these days
Oh I thought you meant like lists of characters to build teams around
Tyty
either way this is sth ppl have been testing this new patch. the third hydro is still a question, and the decklist is a big question mark too
oceanid looks to be around a lot
and cooking nilou talent, stormterrors lair
If you need smt to build off
Looking to improve this deck still so lmk if there are suggestions as well
ok so what you want to do
is cut baizhu for nahida
and then
the secret
you cut nilou for fischl
and then you have a great deck
👍
ok yea could be clearer so
she doesn't force you to swap, but when you want to swap, she forces you to fast swap. That's the part that can be a liability, sometimes you actually want to swap and pass your turn and I learned that the hard way against an Itto player 
And of course, not swapping at all just because you'd have a poorly timed fast swap would be worse (there's a reason why you wanted to swap in the first place, after all) so all in all is just better to play Noelle 
🙂

Is nilou actually that bad
idt she is bad but the bloom is tad awkward to me
Ive only been play random mm so…
Maybe its time to dm 20 top players to fite again…
idk every time i watch nilou deck gameplay
i see the opponent still having most of their health on round 3
if you win, its always at the end of round 4
that is really not a good enough pace for a meta midrange deck
Yea its a bit stall
triggering the bloom is kinda slow, and it indeed is very back ended dmg
But after shenhe nerf and itto nerf
Less things can punish for the long setup
Also sustain is high with deck
George bai heal shield hydro res
Can I practice with someone 
my main issue is that
almost every game i see
the first time a bloom core actually does dmg is end phase r3

wtf
i dont have NA acc so not me
the send off hard punish is real
yeah baizhu good
R1 bai skill + ramp or nilou siill
imo the rotation should be
baizhu skill nilou skill r1, nilou skill burst swap baizhu skill r2
then the third is just supposed to be an anchor
Skill burst too much
Waste too much aura
Yea ive tried ayato 3rd too
Its not bad
so rn the options would just be
What about childe actually
Mona i tried
mona gets slotted in the rotation and you anchor nilou
But all the turns become very akward
baizhu skill swap nilou nilou skill r1, swap baizhu skill swap mona skill r2
or mona skill first actually
I tried bai skill mona ramp r1
r1 baizhu skill swap nilou skill, r2 mona skill baizhu skill... 
this is just a skill skill deck
Nilou ramp
Take inf damage on anchor
Damn just got creamed by a shenhe Nahida scara team
But is there no one here who wants to coop me
Im down to do like 2 games

:worrypat:
Wasn’t there a place to look for games? Or was that the other TCG server I forgot I haven’t played in a while (aside from Nilou cope)
AOC 
wah, chat is very active
@gleaming parcel if you want any help diagnosing your matchmaking experience, feel free to reach out to #📨contact-qixing with line number 9 
i looked a bit into your last few matches, they were all around your performance, given they were all below 35% win rate
I'm still processing on how Nilou bloom works
its similiar to burning
oo 35% win rate is the band 
add rana into the mix
there are more than just a fixed number, but leave the fine tuning to those in charge, numbers too hard for me 
at least we know its somewhat win rate based 
I may be Asian, but I'm not that good in math
I have a a lot of savings but I swear I'm not a crazy rich asian
I'm just luckier in rolling for characters and their weapons than TCG
I appreciate that I guess, idk, but a 5% win rate and 35% win rate is a big difference.
But I appreciate you looking.
I do appreciate that people here have been helpful, and I’m sorry for overreacting as well. I get defensive and spiral and it’s hard to get out of. I still feel like my initial argument was lost, and maybe that’s my fault, but I do appreciate the help of those that genuinely have helped me and been patient with me and my crisis.
But I am sorry for being disruptive in the server.
If anyone is on right now I’m open to practicing again since I’m off work
i can do 1 or 2 games 
Me too 
the keyword is below 
but i agree, practicing more would eventually yield better results, im glad you didn't give up 
and no, giving disastisfactory comments isn't disruptive as long as it's constructive in a sense
and yes, i read, just not all
Sorry I just saw this, im still down if you are
sorry i need to sleep now
maybe another time
I'm kinda tempted
Actually I take that back, there's a blackout
And it's back
If only I had time as before to participate in torneys... maybe I would be the one complaining about my winrate 
Pon 
If my area keeps having blackouts, I might as well play almost all of my matches on my phone
anyone play?
same...
tambien... 
Is it just me or did the Shenhe nerf hit Wanderer harder than Raiden SC?
I didn’t feel that much of a difference from pre-patch using Raiden SC
ofc
Thank god I don’t have to learn another deck yet
Shenhe wanderer isnt even a thing tho
what universe do you live in and can i inhabit it
wait is it actually real i havent seen it in matchamaking you gotta show me
check like any tcg video from after wanderer's release
every single one ive seen has a game against wanderer shenhe
is it good tho?
i fought them all the time i remember i got four consecutive wanderer shenhe batyles and straight up just quit seeing the fourth 😭
yes
very
they mash through stall/combo decks like pie
idk about how it does against nilou bloom tho
wanderer is pretty good against stall bc he can hit the off field unit before u finish making them into hypercarry
with shenhe buff he could deal like 9 damage with NA 💀
mona wanderer eula is more consistent but shenhe is really powerful fr
yea... gotta see it to believe it...
sounds like an interesting idea tho
thats just shenemo 😭
the only minimally decent wanderer decks in the last patch didn't even use Shenhe.
I hope they're not talking about Wanderer Shenhe Nahida, which isn't even a real deck

Smh no respect for the winning deck 
sadly it hasnt been doing pretty well in the competitive scene :gldge
I saw a Nahida shenhe scara team and it HURT
It felt so random but I was surprised how good it was
yeah those guys are crazy together
It's sink or swim for Shenhe and Nahida if Wanderer is unalive
when arena was introduced someone made 5-0 with a deck consisting of three monsters and filled with weapons only 
it's a cope deck that people mistake for a good deck thanks to a few videos on youtube
casual and competitive sides are extremely different
competitive seeks for maximum efficiency
casual seeks random fun interactions, that are mostly not efficient
did you happen to see this video?
so "copium" is about the point of reference

I was kinda skeptical when I saw the video
and if you dont know how to play around it it can seem like the most broken thing ever
outdated
still kinda early to know but RXN is doing well
rxn?
raiden xiangling nahida
ahh
nec... nahida electro conduct?
i've seen a few versions of that one it's pretty good too
nahida electro charge
:pitacheer: let's go elradoman
lol i mixed up the names
every time you see shenhe wanderer nahida an aranara dies
two times ive tried to make a non-meta fun deck then realized its just a slightly altered version of a ~meta deck
That’s how we get meta decks in the first place
You start messing around with something fun, then keep tweaking it to work better, and end up with a meta deck
Most meta decks are just the local maxima of any vaguely related deck composition as you try improving it
Gotta meta my anemo/dendro/geo deck 
reactions r overrated anyway 😎
surely AOC determines what is meta
what in the no reactions-
is this
As much as I still want to play dendro itto. itto without weapon is so painful to play cuz break point
can you record a game with this? i can't even begin to think of what a game plan would be lmao
yeah
this deck used to actually be half decent
after itto nerf it loses a bit more often, no more consistent 5-0s
couple 5-1s
nahida is core because nahida is almost useless if you can trigger reactions to get seed procs
and tighnari doesn’t have a 3 dmg ele skill so also core
hey it just arrived
I’ll have to check mine tomorrow, the idea of them sending me 5 primos via mail is just really silly to me
Will there be an announcement for the Winter Invitational here?
Im saving for the beauty, the brains, & the brawns, Navia
Whats that?
The prince cup winter invitational
the first bit was streamed yesterday on youtube, genshin twitch, and astral carnival twitch
Live event in LA for competitive Genius Invokation! Actually, five players from Season 5 of this server's tournaments were seeded in 👀
So that's why I thought it was strange there was no announcement here
1.5 hours until we go live for day two though~

Otomcha destroyed me with that deck like 4 times lol 
its finally over...
Are you happy to see DP win
of course I am
It took everything in me to not shout you and Binzu out
a win for diona is a win for me
There was point in time where I even said
There are some GITCG players who would be happy
yeah I saw that
Leoric I shouted you out in one of my interview lines but they didn’t choose that one to show
You should have
!
True
are you allowed to?
:kleesis:
To some extent
We can definitely shout out to past Prince Cup participants
Binzu won EU
The Itto nerf really made a huge difference
As soon as I saw SI facing against Barbara, Diona, and Xingqiu, I was like: wait... how did Birby know SI hates facing against cat girl & book boy?
This was actually coincidence, we didn’t know what decks or what order the other team was going until after submitting our own
When SI realized the matchup he was very vocal about not being excited
(you can probably tell why)
I fell alseep for most of the livestream
But over that match, SI's got "oh shit" written all over his face when he realized that he stand no chance against Birby after both had no cards left
Hydration won against Kidney Stones
^ This scene that I saw while playing GI while watching the last part of the livestream told me that Birby would win
wtf Rivals of Aether 2 footage
It's a cute little detail that the GI devs made
Also I'm bias for Lumine
B/c she's the cuter twin
Saw this today but where is the NA one?
Are you asking about the Winter Invitational or another one? The Winter Invitational had already concluded last week.
Surely all the invaders get invited too
wait that thing last week was the winter invitationals? Wasn't it team vs team like some kind of mini game. Where was the tournament
Which country in Asia?
in california
I meant where was the actual tournament? Like all they did was play mini games with 2 teams.
there was no actual tournament
it was just team games
but to qualify for the tournament they had to make it to the knockouts here
@rose perch
The second day they actually played games with decks they made
all i saw was some weird pictionary whiteboard thing

pictionary?
i watched the first hour or so of the tourney (had to stop to study for finals rip) and it was tcg (but they were fighting to win character cards and couldn't see when the opponent played)
the first day was minigames where we won character cards for deckbuilding
the second day was actual duels where we deckbuilt using the cards we won d1
mhm
got another random welkin today. could it be from the survey? anyone knows?
I got a welkin too!
I was freaking out cause I thought I was being hacked or may be a glitched happened
But then I forgot that the survey does give out free welkins
i received one yesterday too. i imagine it was from here
where's mine 
I didn't even fill any survey and I got a welkin 
Maybe it was for my loss in r1 in top 16
they normally rotate on a schedule
this past year with the dragonspine cardback prince cups, NA and EU were first
back during summer
it was the first live event i casted in person
so there's no announcements atm for future live tournaments, but since they announced the chasm card back i think it's safe to watch the astra carnival twitter for further news
how many tournament card backs are there? the dragonspine series and the chasm series, right?
yea, so 5 in total.
3 for us mortal peasants who can't place well enough
only the Dragonspine ones has been released though, the Chasm ones haven't had a tournament where they're available as a prize yet
You don't need to do us dirty like that
@crystal tapir yo i just had an idea
what if we added gilded dreams in artifact aec
if you have yayoi on the ramp board it can fix your dice, generate dice, and draws card too (which can be triggered from summon.
since aec is ranbow deck it can generate 2 dice per iteration
which can also work with lyresong btw
Yea the updated list is playing lyre
Anyways its 4.3 now and i know nothing about it ;-;
2 dice out of nowhere
:poggies:
you know nothing nyahida snow
:poggies:
do share it in ur tcg group 
no prizes 

would u like to sponsor?
👀
back again

@frozen pike 
i'm on the website reading the rules for the circuit points
the math is a bit confusing
35 matches + an additional point for completing all 35?
and then S1 doesn't affect S2?
so the scoreboard isn't for S1 + S2, but individual seasons?


if someone could explain, i would greatly appreciate some clarification!
is anyone else getting "this interaction failed" when trying to register for the tournament?
removed 
you can try again when it happens
yeah it keeps happening...

odd... it works fine for me on all registration channels

ponpon
how does the circuit system work?
i think the math on the website is wrong

where would we go to pass along this feedback?
either this needs more clarity, or the math is wrong
math is indeed hard
pro player ark! PC participant, soon to be in shanghai!!!!!
WOOOOOOAAAAAAAH


can i have your autograph

sent them this one, hopefully it's fixed soon™️
hi ponpon how are u doing?
tys pons ;>

tankyew pon
happy new years btw

stilll 1920x1080 vision here 
i thought it was old 
maybe i simply have not been exposed to it
the meth is corrected btw, ty Lia 
thank you for your speedy communication

So we all start with 0 pts ?
just checking on you about this, did you successfully register yet? 
i'm still unable to register
i take it back, seemed to be an issue exclusive to my laptop

ty! i'll note this down as a work-around for anyone who'd face this issue in the future 
are u the same ark who made a account in all three server for GITCG ranked
that's not too rare nowadays
I actually don't recall
the first ever season in gitcg server
when everyone spammed kenki
i vaguely recall a ark back then
ok now I remember... I did play GITCG ranked in 3 servers
but I don't recall if that's 3.4 or 3.5

do u remember me or coconut
i remember when coconut would coconutted us all over the face
I do remember
he's a menace

wait
ohh u did play ranked in NA
right?

it's been almost 1 year
sheesh
yeah
i only played 1 season
and then became a academic weapon
😔

i'm getting back into it cuz school died down
winter break
perfect timing for this tourney
oh yeah
I can tell a lot of ppl will play in this big tournament
but honestly this meta sucks 
i missed every season of 2023
rip dragonspine card back
tbf didn't know this was a thing until a month ago
why is every new monster card busted
well not every
so many random ass ways to pull cards and dice out of nowhere
😔
the great magician era
0 to 3? 0 to 13

well if ur playing full 35 games for this tournament
expect some stall decks here and there
it's getting popular lately
i've been practicing this shitter lynette equipment stall
mhmm tell me about it
it's lynette jean dehya
spam 3 cost equipments and chef mao
late game lynette shits on geo stall deck with talent
mf does so much dmg
man I haven't played TCG at all since the update
other than weeklies I still have all that content waiting for me
I'm still scrambling to get all the cards
Btw, is there a specific date mention of when the tourney will start this month?
Should say here #🎫register message
perfect
Next week Sunday on the 7th
made ctg prelim deck tierlist cus bored
stall is good this patch but i dont recommend playing for prelim for the sake of sanity, time, and respect for your opponents
ignore C tier, it was a joke for someone else
whats agent ec doing there :huh:
not popular but i think it can still beat the current decks
and no one runs send off
Is Lyney a playable card now??
yeah
Which region I have to register if I came from asia but plays on america server?
I think the first digit of the UID decides which server you're going to be matched with already so you can register your Asian region in the second part; that said, you should open a ticket with the @abstract briar because they know more than I do and can help you with that (given that it affects your participation in Showdown and Prince Cup later if you so happen to qualify for them)
ideally you should complete your registration first and open a ticket immediately so you can have time to change things later
you register with America I think
since it's determining which region you'll be playing against. If you register as asia and don't have an asia account, you kind of can't play
...wait, there are way more than just three regions listed here, hmm
@supple marsh how and what channel do i send the ticket to?
in #📨contact-qixing there should be a guide and a button for you to open a ticket
I’m so sleepy I keep seeing “Barb” and default to barbecue
Where is qiqi dehya kok
Are there any good teams or decks for him out yet??
theres a deck that performs pretty well with lyney
lyney fischl nahida
Ew is there a team that doesn’t use Fischl
in fact only 1 team uses fischl here
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