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eternal musk
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some people are actually able to consistently do things that are normally humanly unfeasible in some niches

pearl fern
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And I want to make sure I say this in a nicer way, but on some level if you don't have time to invest more time into TCG and you're not enjoying it is ok to accept that CTG isn't for you and not how you want to engage with TCG. Which sucks but if you have other commitments then in some level you have to accept that at some point.

It's that or invest more time to improve

thick widget
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What he's trying to say is, if you wanna win at competetive tcg, you'll have to improve instead of complaining about matchmaking and not accepting peoples answers to you

muted cairn
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Have some cute klee

gleaming parcel
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I mean I’ve spent some money on genshin but I’ve grinded genshin too just by game play

I’ve grinded plenty of other games too and when I get to bosses I can’t figure out how to beat, I practice and try different approaches and change my build/team/characters try to figure it out how to win

I’m capable of doing that, and I’ve done that

rich wasp
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i can guarantee you that if you netdecked some top tournament decks and stuck and practiced with that deck for awhile you wouldnt be losing every game

you dont have to of course, but at a competitive level you definitely cant just bring whtaever, play like whatever and expect to be winning

pearl fern
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That idea wasn't communicated in the best way, but in some sense that's what ppl are trying to say I think

gleaming parcel
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like people refuse to believe that I actually DID put in effort to improve

thick widget
muted cairn
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Lieil offered you practicing partner. I would take up that offer later when you have time

gleaming parcel
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where?

slow heart
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I have practice with Coryn before

cursive gazelle
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ok so heres some timeline for everyone to clarify - coryn did badly in last season -> got helped on deckbuilding -> improved

rich wasp
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ok time to not look at this convo again Deadge workge

gleaming parcel
slow heart
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Maybe I can do more than just sparring partner hmm

crystal tapir
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My points so far

  • the more you practice the better youll become
  • not everyone can achieve the same things (ex i cant be the fastest runner even if i trained to death)
  • just play for fun (improving is my way of having fun so ill quit if i dont feel like im improving) everyone is different, you can just enjoy game, you can play to be the beat, you can play ti collect card, no right of wrong
  • we are not trying to attack you, you dont have to keep bringing up that youre getting harassed and have low self esteem and 2 jobs. If we didnt care we would have left
  • we know you have practiced, but others simply practiced more
gleaming parcel
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It’s all just being dismissed despite me saying in detail what exactly I’ve done to try to improve

cursive gazelle
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point is, you've made efforts to improve after your participation in the last season finished. so everyone saying you "havent exhausted all methods to improvement and that's why you did badly in tournament" is quite valid

muted cairn
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Review games are usually good learning

gleaming parcel
cursive gazelle
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so stop getting hung up on the fact that you did poorly last season. you've made improvements that will showcase themselves next season if you still wish to participate

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
# cursive gazelle so stop getting hung up on the fact that you did poorly last season. you've made...

It’s hard not to get hung up when people have talked about raising the bar for the card back requirement and adding more rewards that are unattainable to players like me who are still learning.

It’s hard to not have zero confidence in myself that while I did make efforts to improve, I still might lose every single match. I played multiple practice matches after the changes and I still lost every single one

thick widget
# gleaming parcel Yeah, everyone just said “you’re not doing enough,” or “give up your life if you...

Thats is NOT what we said - your statement just shows our problem here, you are constantly saying that youre getting bullied, despite even content creators and tournament winners explaining things to you in the most simple way possible, jesus you even said that we harassed you. Just calm down if we hated you there wouldnt be so many people in this conversation. I am just saying: you put words in our mouths which we never said, relax a bit

crystal tapir
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Not everyone can attain every reward, such is life

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If you want to refute our points at least have us agree with our own points yea?

gleaming parcel
eternal musk
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on a side note could you stop generalizing the community negatively
most people here are chill and usually help each other a lot

brisk wolf
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looked into this chat for the first time in months and ooh boy not a good time

crystal tapir
cursive gazelle
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but the thing is, even the 3-win cardback is a reward for ppl who have put some kind of effort into the game. the fact that you didn't receive help from the good players here before the tournament, and ended up doing poorly just showcases this.
the 3-win cardback is not a participation reward

pearl fern
# gleaming parcel Yesterday people here literally said I wasn’t doing enough to get better and tha...

Maybe it wasn't said nicely, but it sound like you feel like you should deserve results based on time invested but that's not the case.

No matter how much you practiced if that didn't get the results you want, then yes it's perfectly reasonable that you need to do more to improve. If your are already doing the most you can then "just quit" may be a bit blunt to put it, but yes you need to reevaluate how you engage with TCG

muted cairn
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Be it a comment etc is helpful or not, most ppl here do not have bad intention. Words are complicated, context required. If things doesn't click, move on

crystal tapir
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Yea blep thats a better way of saying it
I suck at sugar coating and getting words across and probably offended some people who didnt understand

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Thanks

thick widget
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Seeing blep stating his point of view makes me so satisfied cuz its just beautyful Ayayaka

eternal musk
gleaming parcel
gleaming parcel
thick widget
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That is not enough

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Its just not enough

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
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I played coop games before the tournament as well, I played extra even because I knew I was going to be facing people

rich wasp
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copy paste my hot take from another server

muted cairn
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Thought wanderer is strong day 1 too. Then after 2 days I retracted that assessment..

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
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but I didn’t even know this existed until last season
Advertisement for this has been poor

cursive gazelle
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deck building, understanding synergy, optimizing value, etc

thick widget
pearl fern
# gleaming parcel You’re all just trying to prove me wrong and not offer any actual help <a:CRINGE...

There's no need to prove anything. You are entitled to your frustration at your performance - theres no right or wrong about that.

But objectively speaking most of your comments have been more complaining about the situation than asking for help which is why you're getting the kinds of responses.

If you want actual help then you need to start asking for actual advice and not just want ppl to tell you the system isn't fair

gleaming parcel
thick widget
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Cuz you wanna win competively

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
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Do you think my improvement will ever be enough?

eternal musk
gleaming parcel
eternal musk
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AoC makes things even worse

twilit steppe
thick widget
rich wasp
gleaming parcel
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I literally just said my goal isn’t to win a tournament though

cursive gazelle
muted cairn
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Most ppl who think they are good.....

pearl fern
# gleaming parcel Do you think my improvement will ever be enough?

How you look to improve matters just as much as how much raw time you sink into it. I'll say honestly there's some issues I see with mentality that'll make it difficult to get results in a competitve setting yes. You'll need to work on some stuff and not just putting more hours into TCG

cursive gazelle
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having some pvp experience in random mm or even aoc isnt enough

twilit steppe
gleaming parcel
cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
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And even did extra coop matches before the tournament to practice

thick widget
muted cairn
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That is not enough. This is competition. Ppl here have experience

thick widget
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Why would you not understand

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It

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Is

slow heart
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I feel like there is 2 way of improving:
1 you play a large amount of games and review all your mistake and what you need to improve on by yourself or with other people (take longer)
2 Get a meta deck, ask what you are suppose to do with it, play (short term improvement that can get you wins, but doesn't really improve your player skill)

thick widget
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Not

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Enough

gleaming parcel
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So practicing, getting more comfortable with my cards and decks, and understanding other i cards and comps I may face isn’t enough?

thick widget
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Appearently not, if it was, you'd be winning

gleaming parcel
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If that isn’t enough then what is?

slow heart
thick widget
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Omg

gleaming parcel
muted cairn
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There is no way you can understand 100% what is happening in pvp everytime. Esp with closed Decklist format here

slow heart
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I send my sister a "meta deck" and give her what she need to do for the first 3 rounds and she got more than 5 wins out of 10

eternal musk
slow heart
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She only play npc and match with friends that are all pve player

eternal musk
twilit steppe
gleaming parcel
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I’ve been using Yae - Nahida - Tighnari
Most of my cards are doubles… I just I don’t know

muted cairn
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If I ask sth like stonehide lotus Totm geores proc order, half of the competitive player here won't be able to answer me either

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QC is a not a high tier meta deck either

ancient spindle
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sound like you need to abooze some meta in deck

muted cairn
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I love the deck don't get me wrong cuz it is fun

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
twilit steppe
ancient spindle
cursive gazelle
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exactly ._.

muted cairn
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But playing QC last season is kinda hell

ancient spindle
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i meant that

slow heart
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The easy deck I recommended to my sister was Wanderer mona eula HeheSmile

gleaming parcel
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I used Cyno - Tighnari - kokomi last season
And I was advised that it wasn’t a very good deck

cursive gazelle
muted cairn
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Oh no that is gotta be as hellish as it sounds

slow heart
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I was thinking about giving shenhe sc to my sister but it prove to be too complicated for her

ancient spindle
gleaming parcel
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So people gave me advice and I switched to Yae - Nahida and Tighnari and gave me advice with orders and cards to use

ancient spindle
muted cairn
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If you are not that good, play shenhe SC, it is not terrible on auto pilot

cursive gazelle
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so if you need more help on yae qc, or want an another meta deck to compete this tournament, ppl here are happy to assist

muted cairn
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Yae QC is better than cyno
kokomi surely, but with shenhe SC and DIN everywhere uhh

twilit steppe
cursive gazelle
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but if you just wanna complain about how poorly you performed, no one here should entertain you since you got the advice you needed already

pearl fern
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The most straightforward decks to pilot are probably combo. You can just try to force the combo line every game until it wins

cursive gazelle
rich wasp
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combo decks arent good though

muted cairn
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Combo has problems too

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Esp on the hand on newer player

cursive gazelle
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not if you just wanna catch nilou bloom kek

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but ya combo badge for new player

slow heart
# twilit steppe Oh yeah I recommended it to one of my friend and they seem to struggle with it.....

R1 keep these card in your hand(you want these cards): Paimon/liben+instructor/para/vana+Mond arcane
R1 action->Mona skill play paimon/liben and instructor on wanderer/para/vana end
R2 action-> swap wanderer if u draw any of these cards(chang/para/vennessa/instructor) play them and start bonking with wanderer
skill will swirl hydro and na swirl the next char
so if opp don't swap char, you to skill into na into skill into burst
if opp be smart and swap so your na doesn't swirl, you keep skilling instead(note:need a lot of anemo dice)
After Wanderer die opp should also have a char that die and the other 2 should have hydro on them
swap mona and end round, next round swap eula and start freeze shattering
I just give her this along with the decklist kek

gleaming parcel
# cursive gazelle but if you just wanna complain about how poorly you performed, no one here shoul...

I’m happy with my deck, i could maybe use a bit of fine tuning and practice (and luck) I just don’t want this tournament to become harder and rewards more unobtainable than it already is/feels
That’s the whole root of it and where this whole argument started last night

I use myself and my experiences as examples a lot, which does open me up to criticism and vulnerability a lot but I dont know how else to present evidence of what I’m saying without using myself as an example

rich wasp
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ayamiya was the most braindead deck

twilit steppe
pearl fern
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Raiden/Candace/Razor is pretty easy to play in most games

muted cairn
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It is relatively easy but playing against newer players, I realized they aren't aware of ftk lines or dice counting

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Which makes combo a 50/50 bad deck for the casuals

pearl fern
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yeah but, you don't reaaaally need to dice count

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you just... do it until it works KekDoggo

cursive gazelle
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i can definitely see someone putting down parametric and ending the turn before it procs

pearl fern
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at some point it'll just work

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just don't run card sthat can mess up like para and stuff

gleaming parcel
twilit steppe
gleaming parcel
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That was the root of all of this, and I used my failure as an example

muted cairn
pearl fern
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I dunno feels like it should be a pretty easy deck to play and explain because you kinda just go 123 burst

muted cairn
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Idk I feel shenhe SC more braindead

pearl fern
rich wasp
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we really not talking about nec

pearl fern
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I mean Shenhe SC can be pretty easy to teach too if you just stick to the same opening

gleaming parcel
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Aaanndd no one is listening to me any more

muted cairn
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I'm allergic to nec so I can't talk about that

rich wasp
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nec does the exact same thing every game Gladge

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and you force the lines no matter what

muted cairn
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Nec is quite braindead indeed. I'm allergic to it tho

twilit steppe
muted cairn
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My qverage dice bad

gleaming parcel
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I’ve actually calmed down but damn….

pearl fern
cursive gazelle
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picking cards to tune is hard

twilit steppe
rich wasp
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thats why you tune your entire hand

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so its easy to decide

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👍

frigid sundial
muted cairn
gleaming parcel
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And no one commented on my deck either omg

muted cairn
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I've commented on your deck

frigid sundial
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what was your deck again?

cursive gazelle
rich wasp
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yae tighnari nahida quicken

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its fine

frigid sundial
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its fine

rich wasp
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rogue tier 2-3

muted cairn
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I said it is bad matchup against all popular decks from past season

frigid sundial
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🤔 maybe you can post your whole list

muted cairn
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List is important too

gleaming parcel
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Yeah, I feel like my list is where I need fine tuning

muted cairn
cursive gazelle
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idk i think you'd rather play weapon qc than yae qc

frigid sundial
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we can give you feedback of your list

gleaming parcel
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I have good cards in there and cards to pull more cards but sometimes I just don’t get the cards I need

pearl fern
# gleaming parcel No one even acknowledged what I said though

There were plenty of comments on your deck. And this is a public chat you are not entitled to have your comments acknowledged.

At this point you should really take a step back as it does feel like you are just trying to actively push your own narrative

gleaming parcel
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I don’t know how to send a deck list easily

muted cairn
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Having draw power could mean you put in wharf or Seelie. That is very different

hybrid whale
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Can someone give me a rundown of how the meta’s changed since last version?

muted cairn
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In different decks it could be a huge terrible stuff

cursive gazelle
muted cairn
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Itto is nerfed to the ground

twilit steppe
cursive gazelle
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bennett decks like pyro keq should see more appearance as well

rich wasp
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itto is gone, everyone is coping with nilou, zhongli is back a bit bc itto is gone

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lots of stormterror experimentation

twilit steppe
hybrid whale
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Great, cause I didn’t like using or playing against BIN

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Glad to hear Shenhe SC is still usable

cursive gazelle
rich wasp
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and shenhe sc is still tier 1

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bedge

muted cairn
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I prefer playing against itto than shenhe SC, hot take

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But good thing he got nerfed. Altho I hoped the nerf was more still on playable side

gleaming parcel
# pearl fern There were plenty of comments on your deck. And this is a public chat you are no...

Maybe, I just really didn’t like the idea of raising the bar even higher when people can’t each it. I just wanted to be heard on that point.
I wanted acknowledgment that raising the bar and requirements to win any reward was a bad idea.

I wasn’t actively trying to push an agenda, but maybe I was unconsciously. When I spiral and get emotional, I say a lot of things without thinking.

And im sorry.

frigid sundial
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nilou cope kopium

gleaming parcel
cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
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I know a lot of people play PC skshdjsk

cursive gazelle
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it will just generate the code for that deck, and you can post ot here

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we can paste the code into our own game to view the deck

muted cairn
# hybrid whale Just use Noelle :p

The reason i like itto is cuz of the mind games and some stack and dice counting. Noelle is too linear in comparison altho I like playing her too

gleaming parcel
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Oh I know there are some ways to send an actual image of the deck with all the cards but idk how to do that

hybrid whale
muted cairn
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I'm mobile player

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It works

gleaming parcel
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But I’ll get the code

muted cairn
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There are PS players too

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Everything works

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You just need to tinker

cursive gazelle
muted cairn
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TCG feature tinker on non PC is much easier than teapot~~

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How jealous

hybrid whale
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Also I honestly don’t know why they made Nilou bloom a summon, she would be so much better if it was similar to Nahida seed but with Dendro app

pearl fern
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being weak to send off is annoying but prob better than having it another way

gleaming parcel
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AtAQvTEMAzAA3V0OBrDA620OB8DA7H0PCBAg8ZgPCkAQ9LIQC6EwDbMQC+FQD7sRCxAA

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Advice is appreciated ; playing it might also help understand it skrunklynariloaf

cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
frigid sundial
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late :0

cursive gazelle
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same brain 🧠

muted cairn
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well i think ting recently made a decklist on kqm that altho not my personal cuppa, should be better working than this

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one sec

rich wasp
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so many one ofs

muted cairn
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chicken version hmm

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i would cut all talents

gleaming parcel
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Why is it called quicken chicken kek

rich wasp
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bc it rhymes and it uses terrorshroom

muted cairn
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cut all artifacts, weapons, jade chamber, katheryne

rich wasp
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aka chicken

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good name

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👍

muted cairn
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very good name

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no one call jadeplume terrrorshroom

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everyone call him chicken

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even tho you run nahida, i would read that guy thoroughly.. ting has written quite some valid points in qc deck

frigid sundial
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chicken is more cute HuTaoPray

gleaming parcel
muted cairn
rich wasp
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jade is fine, but in most cases another card would be better

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toss up generally should perform better

muted cairn
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2 bestest 2 tossup.. problem with jade is the less flexibility where you end turn

cursive gazelle
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idk i would run something like this.. disclaimer i dont play yae quicken..

muted cairn
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that is why despite the buffs the card is given, no one play it still

slow heart
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Where is Oblivious's sheet on dice probability?

muted cairn
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i would add 2 kingsquire

rich wasp
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run gamblers

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best card in the game

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and 2 kings squires

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both are "dice fixers" effectively

muted cairn
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kingsquire is a dice fixer and a buff in a card

cursive gazelle
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i dont like ks on tigh cri

gleaming parcel
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And I have Katherine because of the legacy (?) card, i was advised that it’s best to used the legacy card when you can defeat 2 characters at ones, and Katherine’s quick swap makes that more achievable

rich wasp
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better than the other weapons ur running

muted cairn
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katheryne bad

cursive gazelle
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if you must run a weapon..

rich wasp
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i mean

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if there was ever a deck that wanted kath

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it would be quicken or nilou

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but kath is a really shit card

muted cairn
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^

gleaming parcel
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Why

rich wasp
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which is

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really shocking to me

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bc every single casual video in existence promotes kath

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idk how

muted cairn
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you are always cursed into fast swapping

rich wasp
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everyone thinks this shit is good

gleaming parcel
rich wasp
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fast swap is not a strictly positive effect

muted cairn
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no one in top 16 in all region play katheryne.. if htere is, prob one deck max

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that says a bit already about how bad kath is

rich wasp
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the value of a fast swap varies a lot

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in fact

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on average, a fast swap is worth negative value compared to a slow swap, probably

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because it causes you to end your turn too quickly, and your opponent can play the rest of the turn unpressured

muted cairn
rich wasp
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so being forced to do a fast swap every turn once you put kath down sucks

muted cairn
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but KS is a must imho if you wanna play it

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and heavy strike these days

gleaming parcel
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I just said I mainly only have that card because if the legacy to defeat 2 characters in one turn…

rich wasp
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whats legacy

cursive gazelle
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haha i havent played quicken since 4.0

rich wasp
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arcane?

cursive gazelle
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and i only played weapon quicken

muted cairn
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yeah but that is 1 slot/30 deckslot you wasted on katheryne

gleaming parcel
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The special one use card, yeah

rich wasp
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in any case, you should run leave it to me! instead

muted cairn
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^

rich wasp
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even in that scenario, its just strictly better

muted cairn
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litm my beloved

rich wasp
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having a one time use fast swap on demand that costs 0 dice is just infinitely better

thick charm
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Noelle keeps winning

gleaming parcel
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I don’t fully understand but ok

thick charm
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basically what SI is saying is that

cursive gazelle
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i think you will understand more when a situation comes up in game

thick charm
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if you end your turn too fast

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because you ran out of dice

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your opponent has free reign to absolutely clobber you and you can't do anything about it

muted cairn
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wahhhhtt

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i just wanted to share genshincards link

rich wasp
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yeah genshincards is blocked Deadge

muted cairn
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me hate this server

thick charm
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and Katheryne forcing you to fast swap at least once every turn means you're taking less actions to spend your dice

muted cairn
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me love genshincards

thick charm
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anyway post a pic of the deck instead

muted cairn
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i cant

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i wont login game just to make deck

thick charm
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no I mean post a pic of the genshincards list

rich wasp
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heres an example, albeit a bit extreme

muted cairn
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BMEB7SIQBAER8oQQCREx9pgQClFx970QDGHB/soRDSKRA9oRDqKRDN4RD7KxD+wRD+EB

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here is export code

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i hope it works

rich wasp
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you have 4 dice left, your oppoennt has 4 as well, they are on raiden and they have chong burst up, you have a kath on the field

thick charm
muted cairn
rich wasp
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use it on genshincards

muted cairn
thick charm
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wait keq didn't update yet

muted cairn
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new feature

thick charm
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ok here

muted cairn
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SI has been working so hard to adjust genshincards with in game

thick charm
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o yea I was wondering if he'd do it

rich wasp
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im mostly working hard bc im an idiot Deadge

thick charm
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comply with mhy's format

rich wasp
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if i started from scratch i could do it in 20 min

muted cairn
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you are mostly working on it cuz you are cool

thick charm
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glad to hear you're doing it, you're making a convenient and nice tool for discussion so keep at it

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i have no idea how to rearrange a json so props to you

rich wasp
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strat over sumeru res

cursive gazelle
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something you can put on resume catnod /gen

muted cairn
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im just making a scuffed list, yep, arguably strategize, quicknit, or even 1 more sendoff somewhere

gleaming parcel
muted cairn
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also, katheryne is easy to play around

gleaming parcel
muted cairn
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you have a card there declaring next time your opponent swap it is fast swap

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every round

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a good opponent will make that fast swap become a curse

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esp since last season it is itto everywhere and they swap stall alot

gleaming parcel
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I guessss

muted cairn
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playing against katheryne is actually making things easy

gleaming parcel
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Idk

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I havent experienced Katherine being used against me but I’ll take your word for it

muted cairn
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i played an itto mirror last season, the moment the opponent put down their kath (poor them), it was convenient for me to combo everything and one turn kill everything

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swap stalling is a legitimate strategy

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slow swap back and forth

gleaming parcel
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Ironically itto was the only team i was able to beat last season

muted cairn
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everyone was bringing itto cuz of the trend

gleaming parcel
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My single win was against an itto team

slow heart
gleaming parcel
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I had so many raiden and shenhe’s

gleaming parcel
muted cairn
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but i can see not even all of the top 16 are even great itto pilot

gleaming parcel
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Some cards just refuse to show up for me

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But I genuinely didn’t know she could be be abused to hurt me

cursive gazelle
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oh did you get to practice with lieil?

muted cairn
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your decklist is 30-40% consisting of cards that are grieving you

slow heart
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A while ago

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maybe month ago hmm

cursive gazelle
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nice!

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oh

muted cairn
#

well if lieil is kind enough to give practice and game review

cursive gazelle
#

i thought it was today lmao

muted cairn
#

that is really a quality practice

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altho prob also getting traumatized by DP

slow heart
#

Idk how to give review after the game

muted cairn
slow heart
muted cairn
#

you should, once or twice

gleaming parcel
muted cairn
#

i think the rite of tcg maso is to be DP traumatized once

pearl glade
#

Yo @crystal tapir is it okay if you could show me your aec deck?

slow heart
#

I brought 5 decks that I deem normal

gleaming parcel
#

I do kinda wanna practice with someone tho

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I changed the deck a little with your suggestions

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Let me do tavern plays real quick to get a feel

crystal tapir
muted cairn
#

ive played sth very similar to this before so it is not really scuffed list

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tho, i have to say

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quicken is in a complicated place in the meta game

gleaming parcel
#

Im not a meta slave tbh
I don’t like being forced to play characters I hate

muted cairn
#

well i still gave you a workable decklist

gleaming parcel
#

Lol I think it got buried

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I refuse to play Fischl and raiden

muted cairn
#

i just linked it there

gleaming parcel
#

I feel blind, I can’t find it

muted cairn
gleaming parcel
#

Also I do want to build a deck around Baizhu at some point I just don’t know who he would go with

muted cairn
#

baizhu nilou is sth ppl have been playing these days

gleaming parcel
#

Oh I thought you meant like lists of characters to build teams around

pearl glade
muted cairn
#

how do i even know what you wanna play

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esp if you said you refuse fischl

gleaming parcel
#

Idk, y’all were throwing around names earlier kek

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Sorry

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I do feel better tho

muted cairn
#

oceanid looks to be around a lot

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and cooking nilou talent, stormterrors lair

crystal tapir
#

If you need smt to build off

crystal tapir
rich wasp
#

ok so what you want to do

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is cut baizhu for nahida

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and then

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the secret

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you cut nilou for fischl

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and then you have a great deck

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👍

thick charm
# gleaming parcel How does she force you to swap every turn?

ok yea could be clearer so
she doesn't force you to swap, but when you want to swap, she forces you to fast swap. That's the part that can be a liability, sometimes you actually want to swap and pass your turn and I learned that the hard way against an Itto player HeheSmile
And of course, not swapping at all just because you'd have a poorly timed fast swap would be worse (there's a reason why you wanted to swap in the first place, after all) so all in all is just better to play Noelle NoelleWOW_Erizebett

crystal tapir
#

Isnt that just… nec

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Despairge

rich wasp
#

🙂

thick charm
crystal tapir
#

Is nilou actually that bad

muted cairn
#

idt she is bad but the bloom is tad awkward to me

crystal tapir
#

Ive only been play random mm so…

rich wasp
#

kath good in nilou decks

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trust

crystal tapir
#

Maybe its time to dm 20 top players to fite again…

rich wasp
#

idk every time i watch nilou deck gameplay

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i see the opponent still having most of their health on round 3

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if you win, its always at the end of round 4

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that is really not a good enough pace for a meta midrange deck

crystal tapir
#

Yea its a bit stall

muted cairn
#

triggering the bloom is kinda slow, and it indeed is very back ended dmg

crystal tapir
#

But after shenhe nerf and itto nerf

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Less things can punish for the long setup

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Also sustain is high with deck

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George bai heal shield hydro res

gleaming parcel
#

Can I practice with someone skrunklynariloaf

rich wasp
#

my main issue is that

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almost every game i see

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the first time a bloom core actually does dmg is end phase r3

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wtf

muted cairn
#

i dont have NA acc so not me

crystal tapir
#

No way

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Hmm yea

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Kath maby

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But dendro + hydro summon you cant dodge

muted cairn
#

the send off hard punish is real

rich wasp
#

yeah baizhu good

crystal tapir
#

R1 bai skill + ramp or nilou siill

rich wasp
#

idk why kevin is on nahida cope

crystal tapir
#

I mean nilou HAS to be with baizhu

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The question is just 2nd hydro

rich wasp
#

imo the rotation should be

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baizhu skill nilou skill r1, nilou skill burst swap baizhu skill r2

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then the third is just supposed to be an anchor

crystal tapir
#

Skill burst too much

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Waste too much aura

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Yea ive tried ayato 3rd too

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Its not bad

rich wasp
#

so rn the options would just be

crystal tapir
#

What about childe actually

rich wasp
#

candace childe

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ayato a bit cope

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idk

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actually

#

mona is fine too

crystal tapir
#

Mona i tried

rich wasp
#

mona gets slotted in the rotation and you anchor nilou

crystal tapir
#

But all the turns become very akward

rich wasp
#

baizhu skill swap nilou nilou skill r1, swap baizhu skill swap mona skill r2

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or mona skill first actually

crystal tapir
#

Mona skill first bad

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Bloom dont turn into bountiful

rich wasp
#

seems really slow though

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i meant like

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r2

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swap mona first

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then baizhu

crystal tapir
#

I tried bai skill mona ramp r1

rich wasp
#

r1 baizhu skill swap nilou skill, r2 mona skill baizhu skill... Deadge

#

this is just a skill skill deck

crystal tapir
#

I see cn start a lot with nilou skill

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But surely its bai start right

rich wasp
#

how does nilou skill start work

#

ive seen it but not with baizhu

crystal tapir
#

Nilou ramp

rich wasp
#

nilou skill into ramp

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ramp 5

#

?

crystal tapir
#

Take inf damage on anchor

rich wasp
#

ig

#

seems fine

crystal tapir
#

Yea gonna go spam some games later when theres motivation

#

Too lazy rn smh

gleaming parcel
#

Damn just got creamed by a shenhe Nahida scara team

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But is there no one here who wants to coop me

crystal tapir
#

Im down to do like 2 games

ancient spindle
gleaming parcel
#

Ehhh idk

#

Im not sure if I’m comfortable with that

prime scroll
#

:worrypat:

hybrid whale
#

Wasn’t there a place to look for games? Or was that the other TCG server I forgot I haven’t played in a while (aside from Nilou cope)

crystal tapir
#

AOC HeheSmile

muted cairn
#

aoc

frozen pike
#

wah, chat is very active

#

@gleaming parcel if you want any help diagnosing your matchmaking experience, feel free to reach out to #📨contact-qixing with line number 9 Blobblush

#

i looked a bit into your last few matches, they were all around your performance, given they were all below 35% win rate

night token
#

I'm still processing on how Nilou bloom works

thorny oyster
night token
#

It's from hydro & dendro

#

And it's another summon

ancient spindle
#

Ouch statistics

#

Oh nyo bot base on WR system

cursive gazelle
crystal tapir
#

did this thing recently get changed?

#

it looks quite good maybe i overlooked it

rich wasp
#

its a new card

#

the 1 cost version is old

ancient spindle
#

its good

#

maybe with Yayoi sauce

crystal tapir
#

oh

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mao dunyazard yayoi engine? xD

#

omg that sounds so dumb i gotta try it

rich wasp
#

lyresong

crystal tapir
#

add rana into the mix

frozen pike
cursive gazelle
#

at least we know its somewhat win rate based catnod

night token
#

I may be Asian, but I'm not that good in math

ancient spindle
#

Then you r Bsian

night token
#

I have a a lot of savings but I swear I'm not a crazy rich asian

#

I'm just luckier in rolling for characters and their weapons than TCG

gleaming parcel
#

I do appreciate that people here have been helpful, and I’m sorry for overreacting as well. I get defensive and spiral and it’s hard to get out of. I still feel like my initial argument was lost, and maybe that’s my fault, but I do appreciate the help of those that genuinely have helped me and been patient with me and my crisis.

But I am sorry for being disruptive in the server.

#

If anyone is on right now I’m open to practicing again since I’m off work

twilit steppe
frozen pike
#

and yes, i read, just not all

gleaming parcel
cursive gazelle
gleaming parcel
#

Oof

#

I wanna coop someoneeee

night token
#

I'm kinda tempted

night token
#

Actually I take that back, there's a blackout

night token
#

And it's back

strange peak
#

If only I had time as before to participate in torneys... maybe I would be the one complaining about my winrate PissedChilde

prime scroll
#

Pon PaimonPeek

night token
#

If my area keeps having blackouts, I might as well play almost all of my matches on my phone

crystal tapir
#

anyone play?

slow mason
#

Got too much work to do

lethal spruce
#

same...

subtle ibex
#

tambien... QiqiLurk

hybrid whale
#

Is it just me or did the Shenhe nerf hit Wanderer harder than Raiden SC?

#

I didn’t feel that much of a difference from pre-patch using Raiden SC

hybrid whale
#

Thank god I don’t have to learn another deck yet

crystal tapir
#

Shenhe wanderer isnt even a thing tho

trail leaf
crystal tapir
trail leaf
#

check like any tcg video from after wanderer's release

#

every single one ive seen has a game against wanderer shenhe

crystal tapir
#

is it good tho?

trail leaf
#

i fought them all the time i remember i got four consecutive wanderer shenhe batyles and straight up just quit seeing the fourth 😭

#

yes

#

very

#

they mash through stall/combo decks like pie

#

idk about how it does against nilou bloom tho

crystal tapir
#

shenhe seems like worse eula

#

wanderer cant break stall

#

without eula

trail leaf
#

wanderer is pretty good against stall bc he can hit the off field unit before u finish making them into hypercarry

#

with shenhe buff he could deal like 9 damage with NA 💀

#

mona wanderer eula is more consistent but shenhe is really powerful fr

crystal tapir
#

yea... gotta see it to believe it...
sounds like an interesting idea tho

trail leaf
#

i wish i was you 😭

#

please take my terrible luck with finding matches

cursive gazelle
#

thats just shenemo 😭

eternal musk
#

the only minimally decent wanderer decks in the last patch didn't even use Shenhe.
I hope they're not talking about Wanderer Shenhe Nahida, which isn't even a real deck

summer berry
#

Smh no respect for the winning deck MadgeClap

eternal musk
#

you even decreased shenemo's winrate in the last patch, Kevin

thorny oyster
summer berry
#

These goons are lost

gleaming parcel
trail leaf
#

yeah those guys are crazy together

night token
#

It's sink or swim for Shenhe and Nahida if Wanderer is unalive

thick widget
#

Wanderer Shenhe Nahida

trail leaf
#

nahh not copium

#

there was like a deck overview of it and they kept winning by miles

slow mason
#

:dionatired:

prime scroll
#

when arena was introduced someone made 5-0 with a deck consisting of three monsters and filled with weapons only CynoSip

slow mason
#

it's a cope deck that people mistake for a good deck thanks to a few videos on youtube

prime scroll
#

casual and competitive sides are extremely different
competitive seeks for maximum efficiency
casual seeks random fun interactions, that are mostly not efficient

slow mason
prime scroll
#

so "copium" is about the point of reference

night token
#

Now I remember

#

That's the video I saw!

trail leaf
#

i believe that's the one i saw yeah

#

but it's been a while so idr

slow mason
trail leaf
slow mason
#

that video

#

was a struggle to watch

#

long story short it's just a meme deck

night token
#

I was kinda skeptical when I saw the video

slow mason
#

and if you dont know how to play around it it can seem like the most broken thing ever

trail leaf
#

yeah

#

what is good in today's meta then?

night token
slow mason
#

still kinda early to know but RXN is doing well

trail leaf
#

rxn?

slow mason
#

raiden xiangling nahida

trail leaf
#

ahh

slow mason
#

EU weekly results from today

#

in my opinion RXN and NEC are the best right now

trail leaf
#

nec... nahida electro conduct?

#

i've seen a few versions of that one it's pretty good too

slow mason
#

nahida electro charge

trail leaf
#

ice and electro?

#

oh wait

slow mason
trail leaf
#

lol i mixed up the names

thick charm
#

every time you see shenhe wanderer nahida an aranara dies

hallow lance
#

two times ive tried to make a non-meta fun deck then realized its just a slightly altered version of a ~meta deck

tropic slate
#

That’s how we get meta decks in the first place

#

You start messing around with something fun, then keep tweaking it to work better, and end up with a meta deck

#

Most meta decks are just the local maxima of any vaguely related deck composition as you try improving it

strange peak
#

Gotta meta my anemo/dendro/geo deck HeheSmile

hallow lance
#

reactions r overrated anyway 😎

slow mason
#

surely AOC determines what is meta

hallow lance
#

is this

slow mason
#

sauce

night token
#

That's a really nice rock garden

sullen walrus
#

As much as I still want to play dendro itto. itto without weapon is so painful to play cuz break point

thorny oyster
#

run itto ec for breakpoint surely

#

:trust:

trail leaf
thorny oyster
#

you just charge itto burst and slap

#

while use the other 2 cards as tanks

rich wasp
#

yeah

#

this deck used to actually be half decent

#

after itto nerf it loses a bit more often, no more consistent 5-0s

#

couple 5-1s

#

nahida is core because nahida is almost useless if you can trigger reactions to get seed procs

#

and tighnari doesn’t have a 3 dmg ele skill so also core

thick charm
#

hey it just arrived

rose depot
#

170

gleaming parcel
pearl glade
#

I got like 200

#

Wished and got the neko girl

#

Kirara

safe plaza
#

Will there be an announcement for the Winter Invitational here?

night token
#

Im saving for the beauty, the brains, & the brawns, Navia

weak grail
#

The prince cup winter invitational

#

the first bit was streamed yesterday on youtube, genshin twitch, and astral carnival twitch

safe plaza
# thick widget Whats that?

Live event in LA for competitive Genius Invokation! Actually, five players from Season 5 of this server's tournaments were seeded in 👀

#

So that's why I thought it was strange there was no announcement here

#

1.5 hours until we go live for day two though~

subtle ibex
weak grail
twilit steppe
# weak grail

Otomcha destroyed me with that deck like 4 times lol kirby

night token
#

I'm watching the stall vs stall live

#

Birby vs SI

night token
#

That's ridiculously lucky

#

Noelle's playing whack a mole slowly

weak grail
#

its finally over...

frigid sundial
#

53 minutes

safe plaza
#

After casting

slow mason
safe plaza
slow mason
#

of course I am

safe plaza
#

It took everything in me to not shout you and Binzu out

slow mason
#

a win for diona is a win for me

safe plaza
#

There was point in time where I even said

#

There are some GITCG players who would be happy

slow mason
#

yeah I saw that

tropic slate
#

Leoric I shouted you out in one of my interview lines but they didn’t choose that one to show

slow mason
#

:dschl:

#

still I got the gboo shout out for Cattus so I'm happy with that

pearl glade
#

!

safe plaza
slow mason
#

are you allowed to?

slow mason
safe plaza
#

We can definitely shout out to past Prince Cup participants

#

Binzu won EU

slow mason
#

I see

#

so I need to go to a prince cup to get a shout out

safe plaza
#

Kevin got a shout out despite not going to PC

#

It's not something so clearcut

night token
#

The Itto nerf really made a huge difference

#

As soon as I saw SI facing against Barbara, Diona, and Xingqiu, I was like: wait... how did Birby know SI hates facing against cat girl & book boy?

tropic slate
#

When SI realized the matchup he was very vocal about not being excited

rich wasp
#

(you can probably tell why)

night token
#

I fell alseep for most of the livestream

night token
#

But over that match, SI's got "oh shit" written all over his face when he realized that he stand no chance against Birby after both had no cards left

#

Hydration won against Kidney Stones

#

^ This scene that I saw while playing GI while watching the last part of the livestream told me that Birby would win

thick charm
night token
#

It's a cute little detail that the GI devs made

#

Also I'm bias for Lumine

#

B/c she's the cuter twin

rose perch
#

Saw this today but where is the NA one?

supple marsh
#

Are you asking about the Winter Invitational or another one? The Winter Invitational had already concluded last week.

cursive viper
#

Surely all the invaders get invited too

rose perch
night token
#

Which country in Asia?

rose perch
#

I meant where was the actual tournament? Like all they did was play mini games with 2 teams.

pearl glade
#

it was just team games

#

but to qualify for the tournament they had to make it to the knockouts here

#

@rose perch

bold widget
rotund lichen
#

all i saw was some weird pictionary whiteboard thing

trail leaf
#

pictionary?

#

i watched the first hour or so of the tourney (had to stop to study for finals rip) and it was tcg (but they were fighting to win character cards and couldn't see when the opponent played)

tropic slate
#

the first day was minigames where we won character cards for deckbuilding

#

the second day was actual duels where we deckbuilt using the cards we won d1

trail leaf
#

mhm

misty harness
#

got another random welkin today. could it be from the survey? anyone knows?

night token
#

I got a welkin too!

#

I was freaking out cause I thought I was being hacked or may be a glitched happened

#

But then I forgot that the survey does give out free welkins

eternal musk
#

i received one yesterday too. i imagine it was from here

ancient spindle
#

where's mine GanyUh

pine heron
#

I didn't even fill any survey and I got a welkin GanyUh

#

Maybe it was for my loss in r1 in top 16

safe plaza
#

this past year with the dragonspine cardback prince cups, NA and EU were first

#

back during summer

#

it was the first live event i casted in person

#

so there's no announcements atm for future live tournaments, but since they announced the chasm card back i think it's safe to watch the astra carnival twitter for further news

indigo delta
#

how many tournament card backs are there? the dragonspine series and the chasm series, right?

thick charm
#

yea, so 5 in total.
3 for us mortal peasants who can't place well enough

#

only the Dragonspine ones has been released though, the Chasm ones haven't had a tournament where they're available as a prize yet

pine heron
pearl glade
#

@crystal tapir yo i just had an idea

#

what if we added gilded dreams in artifact aec

#

if you have yayoi on the ramp board it can fix your dice, generate dice, and draws card too (which can be triggered from summon.

#

since aec is ranbow deck it can generate 2 dice per iteration

#

which can also work with lyresong btw

crystal tapir
#

Anyways its 4.3 now and i know nothing about it ;-;

thorny oyster
#

:poggies:

arctic valve
twilit lodge
#

hello, just advertising a bit

thorny oyster
#

:poggies:

twilit lodge
#

do share it in ur tcg group PinkCatNod

rose perch
#

no prizes ExpensiveKek

stiff crypt
twilit lodge
zenith wraith
#

👀

safe plaza
#

woah october 2023

#

retroactive cardbacks

lucid sable
#

back again

white cipher
subtle ibex
safe plaza
#

i'm on the website reading the rules for the circuit points

#

the math is a bit confusing

#

35 matches + an additional point for completing all 35?

#

and then S1 doesn't affect S2?

#

so the scoreboard isn't for S1 + S2, but individual seasons?

pearl glade
safe plaza
#

if someone could explain, i would greatly appreciate some clarification!

indigo delta
#

is anyone else getting "this interaction failed" when trying to register for the tournament?

frozen pike
frozen pike
indigo delta
errant stream
frozen pike
safe plaza
#

how does the circuit system work?

frozen pike
safe plaza
#

i think the math on the website is wrong

#

where would we go to pass along this feedback?

frozen pike
#

oh yeah

#

should've been 131

#

cant do meth

safe plaza
# safe plaza

either this needs more clarity, or the math is wrong

safe plaza
#

thank you

errant stream
#

math is indeed hard

safe plaza
#

how to count

errant stream
#

as a "pro" player can confirm

safe plaza
errant stream
#

WOOOOOOAAAAAAAH

safe plaza
errant stream
safe plaza
#

can i have your autograph

errant stream
frozen pike
errant stream
#

hi ponpon how are u doing?

subtle ibex
#

tys pons ;>

errant stream
#

man time flies

frozen pike
#

im still on my past year's resolution

#

2048 x 1080

errant stream
safe plaza
#

happy new years btw

errant stream
#

new year same cope

safe plaza
#

all year

subtle ibex
#

stilll 1920x1080 vision here AlhaithamNod

frozen pike
safe plaza
frozen pike
#

the meth is corrected btw, ty Lia angelblob

safe plaza
ancient spindle
#

So we all start with 0 pts ?

supple marsh
#

yep

#

points should last until the end of the 2024 season though

frozen pike
indigo delta
#

i take it back, seemed to be an issue exclusive to my laptop

frozen pike
#

ty! i'll note this down as a work-around for anyone who'd face this issue in the future Blobblush

willow lion
slow mason
#

that's not too rare nowadays

errant stream
willow lion
#

when everyone spammed kenki

errant stream
#

oh lol

#

I don't have alts in that early

willow lion
#

i vaguely recall a ark back then

errant stream
#

ok now I remember... I did play GITCG ranked in 3 servers

#

but I don't recall if that's 3.4 or 3.5

willow lion
#

do u remember me or coconut

#

i remember when coconut would coconutted us all over the face

errant stream
#

I do remember

#

he's a menace

#

wait

#

ohh u did play ranked in NA

#

right?

#

it's been almost 1 year

#

sheesh

willow lion
#

i only played 1 season

#

and then became a academic weapon

#

😔

errant stream
willow lion
#

i'm getting back into it cuz school died down

#

winter break

#

perfect timing for this tourney

errant stream
#

oh yeah

#

I can tell a lot of ppl will play in this big tournament

#

but honestly this meta sucks Deadge

willow lion
#

i missed every season of 2023

#

rip dragonspine card back

#

tbf didn't know this was a thing until a month ago

willow lion
#

well not every

#

so many random ass ways to pull cards and dice out of nowhere

#

😔

errant stream
#

true

#

magic dice 🪄

#

from 0 to 3

willow lion
#

the great magician era

errant stream
#

then sometimes 3 to 8

#

lmao

willow lion
errant stream
#

well if ur playing full 35 games for this tournament

#

expect some stall decks here and there

#

it's getting popular lately

willow lion
#

💀

errant stream
#

stall mirrors

willow lion
errant stream
#

mhmm tell me about it

willow lion
#

it's lynette jean dehya

#

spam 3 cost equipments and chef mao

#

late game lynette shits on geo stall deck with talent

#

mf does so much dmg

errant stream
#

yeah

#

its annoying

#

especially if they have 9 anemo dice

thick charm
#

man I haven't played TCG at all since the update

#

other than weeklies I still have all that content waiting for me

night token
#

I'm still scrambling to get all the cards

#

Btw, is there a specific date mention of when the tourney will start this month?

weak grail
night token
#

perfect

cobalt fossil
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when will the event start
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nvm

night token
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Next week Sunday on the 7th

pearl glade
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made ctg prelim deck tierlist cus bored

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stall is good this patch but i dont recommend playing for prelim for the sake of sanity, time, and respect for your opponents

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ignore C tier, it was a joke for someone else

thorny oyster
pearl glade
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and no one runs send off

gleaming parcel
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Is Lyney a playable card now??

weak grail
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yeah

proud yarrow
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Which region I have to register if I came from asia but plays on america server?

supple marsh
# proud yarrow Which region I have to register if I came from asia but plays on america server?

I think the first digit of the UID decides which server you're going to be matched with already so you can register your Asian region in the second part; that said, you should open a ticket with the @abstract briar because they know more than I do and can help you with that (given that it affects your participation in Showdown and Prince Cup later if you so happen to qualify for them)

ideally you should complete your registration first and open a ticket immediately so you can have time to change things later

tropic slate
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since it's determining which region you'll be playing against. If you register as asia and don't have an asia account, you kind of can't play

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...wait, there are way more than just three regions listed here, hmm

proud yarrow
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@supple marsh how and what channel do i send the ticket to?

supple marsh
lucid sable
pine heron
gleaming parcel
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Are there any good teams or decks for him out yet??

thorny oyster
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lyney fischl nahida

gleaming parcel
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Ew is there a team that doesn’t use Fischl

thorny oyster
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:ayawah: