[America Server] Discussions

[cursive viper]

time to ask lia for a battle then

[polar barn]

ull play from suc side right

[cursive viper]

do you see any tag on my name?

[slow mason]

binzu isnt tft?

[cursive viper]

didnt get accepted

not on the leaderbord

[fair pewter]

idk what that means babes but im british so probably not

[pine heron]

Well atleast you are suc, so from our side

[polar barn]

bro capping

[safe plaza]

Aren't you the leader of TFT

He refuses to put the tag on smh

ok who's setting up the tournament

i'll cast

@dark lark

GITCG host clan battle when

[dark lark]

It can happen if we have enough people to help run it

[safe plaza]

define enough people

[polar barn]

@errant stream bro surly ull unbussy yourself soon

[safe plaza]

@errant stream cast with me

@pearl fern has to play for TFT

[dark lark]

They beating their ass with pings

[safe plaza]

ya

[polar barn]

ping is meant to raise them from the dead

[errant stream]

[errant stream]

yeah sure why not

but when tho

[safe plaza]

good question

[errant stream]

surely...

[safe plaza]

maybe patch 4.2

[errant stream]

actually good timing for me

also hold on

i literally have no idea what's gonna happen but

im down for it

[pine heron]

Surely ark

[safe plaza]

@errant stream

[pine heron]

I'll be probably dead till then

[pine heron]

#1120745632295039078 message

[errant stream]

oh casting bans and picks will be fun

[ancient spindle]

Lia first time casting draft

gsg gaming lets gooo

[rich wasp]

[pine heron]

Yaay one more clan war

[errant stream]

scheduling this one will be

first week of November will be great

[safe plaza]

let's go

[safe plaza]

1st week not good

[errant stream]

actually next weekend will be great as well considering timezones (+ Halloween surely)

[safe plaza]

blep's going to china

let's do patch 4.2

[errant stream]

aight sure

[gleaming parcel]

Im nervous

[pearl glade]

Hi nervous

Nice to meet you

[gleaming parcel]

Lol nice to meet you too

I didn’t realize the tournament started until last night so today is my first day playing…. If I get matched with anyone

[storm pier]

I have a silly question. How many games per opponent do we do in prelims? I see that knockout is a three game format, but I didn't see anything about prelims (might have read rigth past it without realizing ;; )

[storm pier]

same RIP

[gleaming parcel]

I have no idea. This is my first time participating and it’s hard to know how things work. If I get matched with someone, how do I play them?

It feel’s organized but not

[cyan zinc]

No one knows how it work

Just click start

[storm pier]

Fair enough lol

[tropic slate]

each match is best of one

you can encounter the same person in matchmaking at most twice

[gleaming parcel]

Yeahhh it just stresses me out.
Im probably gonna lose every round I play

[cyan zinc]

Don't stress, I almost lose every round too

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve never looked up recommended card decks or teams or anything. I just play the cards I like and a team I like

[pearl glade]

BASED

[cyan zinc]

That's how we all started

In 3.3

[gleaming parcel]

Some of it is in the luck of the rolls and the cards you get but still.
Idk.
I suck and I feel like there are probably some players in the tournament who never lose and who are meta about playing just as much as the game

But a lot of the meta players use characters I don’t care for

[rich wasp]

most chars are viable rn

[eternal musk]

there are people who haven't lost, but they haven't played enough yet

[gleaming parcel]

I mean like raiden and hutao for example

[rich wasp]

what about em

[pearl glade]

raiden is very much used

[cyan zinc]

Raiden is everywhere

[gleaming parcel]

I hate her

[pearl glade]

oh

[cyan zinc]

Oh

[pearl glade]

well hu tao isnt very used

[gleaming parcel]

I hate Raiden every where
In cards and in game

[rich wasp]

so what about raiden and hu tao

you dont have to use raiden to win

the 1 deck that uses raiden is falling off rn

not even good anymore

[gleaming parcel]

But I don’t have any reccomended deck, like I said, I’ve never looked up tcg decks

[pearl glade]

https://cards.keqingmains.com/

[rich wasp]

if

theres a character you like

theres probably a good deck with them

honestly theres no good online tcg resource

community is too small

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t like meta. It just makes me realize how terrible I am

[dim ginkgo]

Sadge too true

[rich wasp]

kqm guides are alright but they arent too in depth and always out of date

[pearl glade]

you could just be based and not play meta and overcome with skill

like for example

i play against this guy named splatoon

he always plays non meta deck and wins like 90% against me

[cyan zinc]

You don't need to play the meta

But you need to know the meta

[rich wasp]

^

[gleaming parcel]

I guess

[pearl glade]

although i guess to be fair you need to play bit of meta to know the meta

once i play meta deck i start to realise it's quirks and weakness more

[cyan zinc]

Yep

[gleaming parcel]

I mean I’m the type of person who can’t stand using Fischl and everyone worships her

[cyan zinc]

And soon you'll just join the meta

[gleaming parcel]

But have turned Thoma into a heavy hitter

No

[pearl glade]

thoma isnt released iirc

[cyan zinc]

I used to hate itto

But now he looks cute to me

[gleaming parcel]

I’m talking about ingame as an example

[rich wasp]

[gleaming parcel]

I hate raiden

I hate Fischl

[rich wasp]

side game examples

[gleaming parcel]

Anywhere

[rich wasp]

[pearl glade]

@gleaming parcel ok what if you listed your fav characters

and we tried to come up with a deck

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have a single archon in game or tcg

[rich wasp]

half the archons suck in tcg

[cyan zinc]

To be hair there are only 4 archons

[pearl glade]

i cant believe i forgot about venti when i said 1/3

[cursive viper]

wdym the best archon ITTO has a good deck

[rich wasp]

the real geo archon

but every char has a viable deck rn

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t like meta because it makes me realize I suck and it always tries to force me to use characters I don’t like

[cyan zinc]

Zhongli can't hold a candle to itto

[rich wasp]

ok if you dont like meta theres probably a viable off meta deck

[thick charm]

hello guys gonna queue for a while and then go back to F-Zero since I renewed my Nintendo Switch Online, gonna share this for now

genshrek made me whale outside of the game somehow

[pearl glade]

@thick charm

I saw this at costco few days ago

[thick charm]

ya I got one of those, planning to turn it into a quiz for my cousins

with each question awarding a pack, up to 10

[gleaming parcel]

You’re all gonna laugh at me when I explain my deck

[thick charm]

one of my cousins said she likes card games so I also plan to give her a big gift of pokémon cards on xmas, featuring Lechonk and Oinkologne because she likes pigs too

[pearl glade]

i do not recognise those pokemon... must be new

[thick charm]

laughing at newbs is rude, you'll get advice though

[thick charm]

https://tenor.com/view/lechonk-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-27506681

yea gen 9

[pearl glade]

gen 7 was like the last i played

:<

alola

[thick charm]

good

[pearl glade]

i hated gen 6

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah and I’ll get told how my team sucks and I’m doing everything wrong

[thick charm]

you'd have to legit pay me to play swosh/LPA/sv

alright fren that sounds like some persecution complex, at least I don't bite so

just show your deck and explain a bit what you wanna do

I'll queue now and sneak a game in before the F-Zero gp starts

[gleaming parcel]

It happens everytime I ask for help, like I said it just makes me feel like I suck at playing

[thick charm]

it's okay to be bad, everyone is at some point. It's up to you to take the advice and improve tho

and compromise with your playstyle

[gleaming parcel]

I just don’t like being forced to play a specific way

and if you don’t play that way then you’re dum or bad or whatever

[pearl glade]

:<

[rich wasp]

as long as ur open to people saying "maybe replace this card with this card which will help your game plan more"

[thick charm]

this, you don't have to play meta but you should take suggestions

[gleaming parcel]

Sometimes

Ive gotten recommendations before that everyone swears by is the best way to play and they just don’t work for me and I don’t understand how their way is the best way in game

And when I explain that they just say I’m bad

[cyan zinc]

It's simple

Do you win when you are playing your way?

[rich wasp]

dont listen to them when you dont want to

👍

simple solution

[gleaming parcel]

Sometimes

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah that’s easier said than done with my brain

[cyan zinc]

Having an open mind is good in general

Regardless of tcg

[rich wasp]

[gleaming parcel]

And i usually do

And it’s not that I don’t try to do things their way, they just never really work when I do

[cyan zinc]

This is equivalent to I sometimes dont

[gleaming parcel]

well yeah, everyone tries to tell me to get zhongli and raiden for in game and I tell them no

[cyan zinc]

Oh

[rich wasp]

sure

[cyan zinc]

I don't have zhongli either

I don't even have kazuha

[pearl glade]

i havent unlocked half the charcters

[cyan zinc]

And I play this game since 1.0

[gleaming parcel]

Everyone tells me to use Fischl, no

Or get hu Tao

No

[rich wasp]

good on you

[gleaming parcel]

Swears by ayaka

My ayaka sucks

[cyan zinc]

👍 good

[rich wasp]

but if someone said

[cyan zinc]

Don't listen to them

[gleaming parcel]

But everyone says I have to f I want to be good

[cyan zinc]

Good in what?

[rich wasp]

"it might be better to put blizzard on ayaka instead of eosf bc it will do more damage"

[cyan zinc]

Abyss?

[gleaming parcel]

In general

[cyan zinc]

That's too vague

[gleaming parcel]

I get through abyss using teams no one uses

[thick charm]

this game is easier than pissing in the shower, if you need to follow meta suggestions for the overworld you're talking with like gigasweats

[cyan zinc]

Abyss is easy

Who cares?

Just play whoever you like

[rich wasp]

you dont have to follow meta if you dont want to

but right now whats the goal

[gleaming parcel]

Lol no it isn’t

[rich wasp]

you want to win more games in this tournament? or something? i forgot the premise

[cyan zinc]

It soon will be

[thick charm]

yea didn't you want us to review your deck or smth

[cyan zinc]

Oh yeah right

[pearl glade]

lets see em

[thick charm]

or is this just a pity party

[pearl glade]

(we wont laugh)

[swift light]

What characters do you like?

[gleaming parcel]

LolI doubt it, I only got to 36 star abyss for the first time in months because they keep making it harder

[gleaming parcel]

How do I even share my deck? Im scared of showing it

[pearl glade]

well since this is just regarding characters you can just take a screenshot

we can delve into items later

[gleaming parcel]

But that doesn’t showybwhole deck

[thick charm]

preview deck!

then you can produce a long screenshot

[dim ginkgo]

in preview deck there's a screenshot button

[gleaming parcel]

On console?

[dim ginkgo]

are you playing on pc?

[thick charm]

should be more conv--

[pearl glade]

1984

[gleaming parcel]

No

[thick charm]

did paimon mute me for posting genshincards link

[pearl glade]

yes

[thick charm]

lmao

[pearl glade]

literally

1984

[thick charm]

well genshincards dot com

has a deck builder if getting the screenshot would be inconvenient

[pearl glade]

cocogoat milk

[thick charm]

F-Zero grandprix starting soon see you guys in like half an hour

[gleaming parcel]

Is it like enka or paimon.moe cause I can’t use paimon.moe

[pearl glade]

ok im queuing now

[thick charm]

no is just a site you can click around

also paimoe has a method for console but it's probably a lot more complicated

but that's neither here nor there

[gleaming parcel]

Im sorry

Im just depressed

[eternal musk]

he actually plays several meta decks, it's just that lately he's been having fun with his own cope decks.

[gleaming parcel]

Idk. There is a genshin builder thing and I can’t figure out how to use it / it doesn’t work on console

[pearl glade]

and they absolutely work

[gleaming parcel]

But I use kokomi Tighnari and Cyno
It’s the deck I’ve had the most success with other than you know losing every game I’ve played in this tournament

[timber crow]

yeah you have a good character combo
it might just be the other cards you need to look at

[gleaming parcel]

At this point I don’t even know

I just suck

[rich wasp]

hmmmmmmmmm

the deck will work if you swap 1 char out of it

basically a meta deck if you do

is there any 1 char you dont have a particular attachment to in that list of 3

like kokomi tighnari, tigharni cyno, and cyno kokomi should all work

kokomi sara tighnari, tighnari cyno yae/fischl/raiden/sara, cyno kokomi ... nvm maybe the lasto ne doesnt work

[gleaming parcel]

I like having a cynonari deck, but I use kokomi because it helps my characters die slower

[rich wasp]

id suggest giving yae/fischl/raiden/sara as the last slot

[gleaming parcel]

Im not using raiden

[rich wasp]

i ordered them in order of viability

raiden is second worst

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have any of the other cards except Fischl

[rich wasp]

tighnari + a character with electro summon rotation is really solid

[gleaming parcel]

At this point I’m just throwing my cards away in this match

[rich wasp]

and then the last char is a dendro / electro flex

[gleaming parcel]

I guess

[rich wasp]

normally the rotation is

[gleaming parcel]

I came into this tournament expecting to lose anyways

[rich wasp]

r1: electro summoner ele skill -> swap tighnari -> tighnari skill -> figure out some way to float 1 (with yae and sara, quick knit is a funnily viable option, the rest would prefer something like liben, seelie, strategize, liben etc)
r2: you have quicken aura now, so you tighnari CA -> burst -> figure out some way to float 2 (second half of the liben you floated r1, adeptus, etc)

[thick charm]

Coryn if you can't use genshincards for whatever reason you can dm me your list of cards and I'll produce the graphic for you

[gleaming parcel]

I figured “hey I’ll lose every match and get zero primos but at least others will will primos off beating me”

[thick charm]

also this is how it is for most players, don't get discouraged, you can get the card back if you put in the effort!

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah but it’s not fun losing every single game you play

[thick charm]

true, the competition is steep and I suck too lol

and I'm played a very hated meta deck and still lose

[gleaming parcel]

but you’ve at least won a match

[thick charm]

oh shit right I figured I'd try din during the weekend

anyway yea Coryn write down your cards and send them to me in a dm

I don't have a PS so I wouldn't know how to send a screenshot to social media so you can grab it with your phone and send here

[gleaming parcel]

it’s not gonna matter though

[thick charm]

aight don't be a defeatist, a losing streak is depressing but when you give up is when you truly lose

maybe you don't have lucky coins to purchase the cards you'll be suggested rn to use during the prelims, but that's something to work towards

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve lost more games than I’ve won ever since tcg came@ojt

[thick charm]

me too, I just think it's fun

[gleaming parcel]

If I win it’s again an Npc

I think I’ve only ever beaten like 4 coop games ever in all the time playing

[thick charm]

but like being a meta slave for the overworld or the abyss is ridiculous because it's single player content and the only benchmark that matters is you clearing it

but I think you'll need to be a bit more flexible when it comes to the pvp gamemode

[hybrid whale]

What is up with so many people only at 1 loss all of a sudden

[rich wasp]

151 is 14-11

[gleaming parcel]

I just hate meta

[thick charm]

and "more flexible" doesn't mean become a meta slave yourself

so don't get my words twisted here

[gleaming parcel]

But that’s what everyone says I have to be

[timber crow]

you don't have to play meta to do good

[thick charm]

I just got lucky that Noelle is featured in a meta deck, and I'm uncompromis--

[timber crow]

ppl who say that suck

[hybrid whale]

But you're at 1 loss right 👀

[thick charm]

my man have everyone's words come into your ear and out the other for the past hour

people aren't telling you to abandon literally your entire deck

[gleaming parcel]

I just get lucky that the characters I use and like using are meta

[thick charm]

people are asking for you to share (still waiting on that) so they can give suggestions and then it's up to you if you want/can take them

[twilit steppe]

My score is going to look like this soon

[gleaming parcel]

I said I use Tighnari Cyno and Kokomi

[thick charm]

yea but the rest of the deck too if possible

[gleaming parcel]

i don’t know the name of cards, it’s gonna take me an hour to write them all down

[timber crow]

tbh you could probably just take a pic

[thick charm]

right, at this point potatocam will do

none of that exporting or genshincards nonsense

just point your phone at the screen lol

[gleaming parcel]

But I told you it’s sucks

[thick charm]

well, that helps us help you. I'm in a match rn so I'll take a look at it in a couple minutes

[cursive gazelle]

well for starters you wanna use 2 copies of the same card most of the time, so you can draw them more consistently

[gleaming parcel]

That feels ineffective though depending on the card

[cursive gazelle]

thats actually more effective

having 2 copies means you can draw it more consistently

having too much variety in your deck means you have a low chance of drawing what you need, when you need it

[gleaming parcel]

I guess

Idk

I’ve given up

[slow mason]

have you heard about diona sc?

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t use diona so probably not

[thick charm]

alr lemme build your deck myself so I make the convenient screenie

[slow mason]

sad

I dont play meta

[frigid sundial]

[slow mason]

but I still do ok in tournaments

[gleaming parcel]

This is my first tournament but I never do well in anything

[thick charm]

alright here for your viewing pleasure

hey, your first tournament of anything, or even your first tournament of everything in general

you're bound to do REALLY badly

I can tell you from experience, and not just the TCG

[gleaming parcel]

Im just bad at life

[thick charm]

anyway, like Meowna said, it's better to have two copies of really useful cards than have single copies of potentially useful cards. You recognize this since you have two Strategize and Hash Browns

Second, I don't think you really need a talent, a weapon and an artifact for every character, but with artifacts you also have an opportunity to also clean up on the other way; recognize which artifact works on a couple of your characters and put two of those cards in your deck, and ditch the rest.
The most popular is Gambler's Earrings, but depending on what you want to accomplish with your deck you might find something else that's useful for you

you have a bunch of food, if you'd like to include more, double down on Chef Mao for sure he's good

[tropic slate]

gambler's earrings for aggressive decks, Tenacity of the Millileth for defensive decks

shimenawa's and the 2-black elemental artifacts for certain fun comps which use a lot of skills

[thick charm]

Timaeus and Wagner I don't know if they're super good? Even if you play a deck that's loaded with weapons or artifacts

I think that Inazuman lacquerware woman is like straight up better than Timaeus in 90% of situations if you really need artifact support

[tropic slate]

Games don't last long enough for Timaeus or Wagner to get all their value

[pearl glade]

Inazuman lacquerware woman

[tropic slate]

and that's assuming you draw them on turn 1 and have the equipment ready to go

[thick charm]

Vanarana is pretty useful, and although you usually only want/need to play one, still include two of them in your deck, to draw it more consistently

[zealous mural]

queue right now for free win

🔥 no refund

[pearl glade]

tim and wag might be viable with the new dunya

[thick charm]

I don't know what other advice I could give that's valuable, but I hope that leaves you with a lot to work with

[hybrid whale]

Hey I'm struggling through depression (3 years and counting) and still doing decent this time around, don't be so negative about yourself

[thick charm]

yea same if I don't take venlafaxin every day, I really notice it the next day :')
but if you need a headpat I can give you one

anyway the rest of the cards I think they're solid, is just that you need to pick half of them to keep and get a second copy, and ditch the other half, depending on what you want to achieve with your deck and which ones you feel that help you more; the ones that you like to use when you draw rather than sitting in your hand waiting to be elemental tuned

[gleaming parcel]

That doesn’t halp

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve been battling depression and anxiety since I was in 7th grade which is like 15 years

I can sufficiently say I’m bad at life

Idk

Sorry I’m so negative

[thick charm]

fun day

got matched with a lot of hispanic players

[slow mason]

am I blind or is there no dionas in there

[dim ginkgo]

[dim ginkgo]

where'd u get this list

[slow mason]

they made it

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t wanna play any more

[ancient spindle]

Arent we all said that b4

then here we are

still malding here in madness

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve lost every game I’ve played today

[ancient spindle]

ofc its weekend

[gleaming parcel]

It’s Friday?

[ancient spindle]

hardcore players always play in weekend to rush their game

[gleaming parcel]

……

[ancient spindle]

yeah im AS

so its Saturday for me so mb

[gleaming parcel]

I didn’t even know the event started y til last night

So I missed 4 days of play

[ancient spindle]

welp im sure that you can rush it

[gleaming parcel]

and you’re telling me all the lesser players play during the week?

like I could have maybe won a match if I had just played a different day?

[ancient spindle]

yeah when they r free

[gleaming parcel]

Asia and NA servers can’t okay eachother

[ancient spindle]

cuz they only want the card back

and some primo ofc

[gleaming parcel]

I mean I wouldn’t say I only want the card back

I want the primos more than the card backs

See this is why I feel stupid

[ancient spindle]

well i dont mean to hide but the duel here are all hard lv

[gleaming parcel]

At this rate I’ll be lucky if I walk away with 5 primos.

[ancient spindle]

if you r new its lucky that you could get 10 wins

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah and I didn’t realize I sucked as bad as I did

[ancient spindle]

for like 50 primo at most

[gleaming parcel]

50 primos is better than 0

[ancient spindle]

then good luck to you

[gleaming parcel]

Lol it’s not good luck any more, I just suck at this point

[thick charm]

you know, I should just straight up release my spreadsheet lul

but it's probably too late for that. Maybe?

well people gonna rush in the weekend so what the hell

might as well

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah and we talked about that earlier

It is a skill issue

[thick charm]

No, it absolutely is deck issue, but the ball is in your court now

[gleaming parcel]

Not really

[thick charm]

mate nobody is gonna win with a deck full of single copies

like give it to SI and I bet he loses to me. Me

jokes on you he'd win anyway

[dim ginkgo]

having a good deck really matters

[hybrid whale]

^

[gleaming parcel]

you’re just saying to double everything but that doesn’t help

[dim ginkgo]

it's like having a stick vsing a sword in a fight

[thick charm]

It absolutely does mate

it's a fundamental in every card game

[gleaming parcel]

It doesn’t help if I don’t know what cards to double

[dim ginkgo]

we can help you with that

[thick charm]

Right, but that depends on your playstyle, I didn't wanna be too overbearing with the advice more like giving you a nudge and food for thought

But if you need me to be more pushy, then I can do that too

[gleaming parcel]

because at that point teobthem I’m only having like 15 different cards in the deck at most

[thick charm]

That's correct

And that's good

[gleaming parcel]

and depending on my pulls that hurts me more than it helps me

[thick charm]

On the contrary?

you'll reach any given card faster

and of course you're gonna pick the best cards for your gameplan and ditch the ones that don't help you as much

[gleaming parcel]

but a lot of cards help me

[thick charm]

there's gonna be some that help more than others

[gleaming parcel]

I can’t play if my characters are dead

[thick charm]

in that case, double down on the food and healing cards

[dim ginkgo]

^

[thick charm]

(although I think the deck is better served being aggro but I'm not good at that)

[gleaming parcel]

and I do that, but it doesn’t help

People just hit me too hard to fast and then I’m dead

The end

if you don’t believe me then play me and see how bad I suck

[thick charm]

hence why I think you should go aggro, but if you're concerned about survival then let your playstyle gravitate towards that and give it a go

[hybrid whale]

Anybody can do decent with a given deck and gameplan

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve been trying and it doesn’t work

[hybrid whale]

Most decks have a set plan up to round 2-3 anyways

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah people say that about main game meta teams and they don’t work

[thick charm]

put two copies of each fav church, sango shrine, inn, hash brown, pizza, and maybe even sweet madame if desperate—it can help, with Chef Mao

pluck out the talent, weapons and artifacts for now because, while they're usually good, I feel like they're a huge noob trap when newbies put too much imporance on equips rather than just fighting

[hybrid whale]

Fine, just tell me if you like aggro, mid-range, or stall and I’ll give you a deck and gameplan, how’s that sound? Also main game involves action but card game is literally just clicking and dragging cards

[gleaming parcel]

you could give me the best deck in the game and I would still find a way to lose

[thick charm]

it happens

again, I'm using a meta deck and I have a perfectly mediocre winrate

[gleaming parcel]

it happens all the time to me.

[hybrid whale]

You might still lose but at least you won’t be getting demolished without any chance of winning

[gleaming parcel]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That’s funny you believe that

[thick charm]

Alright do you want to be helped or pitied?

'cause this is going about as fast as a dp vs dp match

[slow heart]

kek

[slow mason]

gitcg is a game that requieres a lot of practice to be good

[gleaming parcel]

I want to be able to win games but nothing is going to help because everything that has ever been tried to help me doesn’t help

[thick charm]

Stop whining and start acting

[slow mason]

it's your first tournament so it makes sense that your not going to do too well

[dim ginkgo]

^

[thick charm]

Seriously, I wanted to help but my patience can only go so far so y'kno, take it from here guys

[hybrid whale]

I’m just gonna say this is my 3rd or 4th tourney and I have never placed top 16 before

[gleaming parcel]

other people are doing great
I know plenty of people who enter tournament la for the first time and do great
I sucked before the tournament

[slow mason]

a tournament like this is the perfect place to practice so even if you lose, try to make the most of it

[hybrid whale]

Yeah I’m done trying to help too, this is taking too long for me to handle

[slow mason]

[dim ginkgo]

well everyone has different skill level at the beginning, rather than focusing on the attempts to win before just focus on trying to improve and doing better next time

we're all in this discord cause we enjoy playing tcg

everyone's willing to help you

[slow heart]

another way to learn is to post sc of a game u lost here and had other people walk you through other option you can do

[hybrid whale]

Yeah, all it takes is willingness and patience to learn

[gleaming parcel]

I want to learn but I’ve tried and nothing works

[dim ginkgo]

keep trying

[slow heart]

what kind of learning have u tried before

[hybrid whale]

If you don’t wanna put in the effort then fine keep whining

It’s not like everyone can become SI in a day

[slow heart]

not all learning style are good for the same person

[slow mason]

how long have you been playing for?

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve been playing tcg since it was released

[slow mason]

but this is your first attempt at playing competitive right

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve played the weekly in game coop tournament thing

always lose

i think my longest streak is 2 games

[slow heart]

the arena of champion?

[misty harness]

I keep throwing my matches

[slow mason]

hmm

[hybrid whale]

Wtf is in game coop tournament lol all I know is that’s prob not a competitive tournament

[misty harness]

I don't like the pressure of fighting for primo scraps, I think i'm gonna quit early on this one too

[gleaming parcel]

When you go to the board in cats tail and you can compete ?

“Arena of champions”

Or whatever

[dim ginkgo]

that's not competitive

[hybrid whale]

I won’t consider AoC to be a competitive tournament

[gleaming parcel]

You’re playing against other players

Even if it’s not for rewards

idk, I played it the past few weeks for practice

[slow heart]

In aoc it is either new player that doesn't know the game well, or good player playing cope deck in it

[slow mason]

aoc doesnt have a very high skill level (usually)

[gleaming parcel]

How am I supposed to know that

[dim ginkgo]

well now you know

[hybrid whale]

Well now you know

[slow heart]

it is better to play random match making

[slow mason]

I would say theres two things you can try

[slow heart]

since the more you play and win, the harder opponent the game will match you against

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah now I know I suck even more if I can’t beat the players everyone thinks has no skill level

[slow mason]

well 3

[hybrid whale]

You suck now, but you’re the one who decides whether you suck in the future

Everyone starts out sucking

[thick charm]

That's the takeaway

[twilit steppe]

They need to match me into people on my level omg.. what are even these last two match (and I somehow won the first one)

[thick charm]

and Noelle thinks it's good time to use more convincing debate methods

[zealous mural]

q now for free win

[gleaming parcel]

I keep saying I don’t want to suck and I want to win but whenever I’ve tried things it doesn’t happen

[thick charm]

you can't learn to swim without getting wet

[slow mason]

1 if you do want to improve going to the gitcg server is probably a good place to start
2 post your deck and ask for how it can be improved
3 play games, record them and share them in gitcg where someone will hopefully be able to explain what you could have done differently

also playing a lot is important

[gleaming parcel]

I can’t realistically record

Im on my console right now

[thick charm]

deck #1072075083025223770 message

[gleaming parcel]

I’d have to switch to my phone

[slow mason]

that's their deck?

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve posted my deck and the only feedback I’ve gotten is “figure out what you want and double up cards”

[slow mason]

well double cards is pretty important

[gleaming parcel]

Yes but recording them and being able to share said recording is an issue of itself

[slow mason]

and I also agree with figure out what you want

[night token]

Prince is not just a cat

He's a mini panther

[slow mason]

as in what style do you want to play

[gleaming parcel]

That’s so vague though

What am I supposed to do

[slow heart]

what do you like to do

[slow mason]

just like

[night token]

There's control, aggro, combo

[slow mason]

what do you want to do

[slow mason]

you dont even have to use terms at this point just a basic idea of how you like playing

[slow heart]

there is also midrange kind of deck

[dim ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/ossdRfY7TOA?si=u6xzHtzjnWM2BYdo this video describes the playstyles, it's pretty informative

[slow mason]

blep

[gleaming parcel]

Cause I feel like you all have a list somewhere of what’s a good team and what’s a bad team and who is good and who isn’t and if I say “I like a CynonAri deck” someone is gonna say it’s bad and stupid and “no wonder you lose every match” and I’m gonna be told
“If you want to win you HAVE to play these” specific characters doesnt mater if you hate them or don’t like their play style it’s what you have to do to win”

[thick charm]

imo if Tighnari and Cyno are a lock, then I think you should try to go balls to the walls crazy with Quicken. Then---

oh my fucking g-- yea I'm out jesus christ where did you get told to NOT play Cyno and Tighnari

[slow heart]

This describe the different deck archetype but the deck that is being showcase isn't that up to date good

[rich wasp]

cyno tighnari is good

ask @ lia

[hybrid whale]

@gleaming parcel Here it’s in Japanese but you get the gist, here’s the link if you’re interested https://youtu.be/IguHoiDmdeE?si=caqwvwYtSCZwvpXv

[rich wasp]

why are we recommending this deck

[slow heart]

not mnec

[rich wasp]

just play quicken

[slow mason]

I am a diona player who stubbornly plays her in the worst way possible for completive play possible

[rich wasp]

tighnari is like, one of the best chars while still being off meta

[slow mason]

how could I judge you on what you want to play

[rich wasp]

sounds perfect for what you want

[thick charm]

'cause I've been reading the whole conversation and not a single person has been telling you to yeet Cyno or Tighnari, just Kokomi at most and even then she can stay and provide some Hyperblooms

but your characters need a good main deck to back them up

[night token]

Kokomi also goes jellyfishing

[rich wasp]

tighnari is a super high quality char who happens to only work in quicken so its off meta, but hes crazy good

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve played a Cyno Tighnari Collei team before and it just didn’t work so I tried kokomi cause her healing at least let me survive longer

[pearl glade]

finished my games for today

[rich wasp]

you need a summon char 👍

[ancient spindle]

He's good bc of his talent and the sumeru bow

[rich wasp]

summon chars are very high value

[inner dagger]

I though that what she needs it's what to do if don't get good cards

[thick charm]

I'd think Collei would be more thematically appropriate and better for the team I think

[slow heart]

SI cook a cyno tig team

[rich wasp]

as a downside, summon characters arent that good in the late game

[slow heart]

I trust your cooking

[gleaming parcel]

I tried Nahida too and it didn’t work well either

[inner dagger]

Or she get Bad dice

[rich wasp]

which is why almost every single deck opens with a summon character

[pearl glade]

stretching after long gaming sesh

[rich wasp]

theres like

[gleaming parcel]

I really want a cynonari team to work but it just doesn’t

[rich wasp]

almost not a single deck that doesnt plan to make a summon r1

cynonari works

[thick charm]

imo, take out Kok and put someone green from Sumeru, and then to double down on your healing cards to supplant Kokomi's purpose

[night token]

Cynari sounds cuter

[rich wasp]

in fact with weapon package cyno might even be the best in slot third

[thick charm]

like, rely on healing cards rather than Kokomi's jellyfish

[rich wasp]

aight here lemme cook something up

[slow heart]

I really want to recommend dehya tig cyno but

[frigid sundial]

[gleaming parcel]

I can’t get it to work

[rich wasp]

are you willing to play fischl

[slow heart]

I like to play cope from time to time

[rich wasp]

or yae

or sara

all are fine

[night token]

Food is great 👍

[thick charm]

I agree I had a nice burger today

oh wait food cards

[slow heart]

Just queue into ayamiya

[night token]

I like hashbrowns & pizza

[hybrid whale]

lmao

[frigid sundial]

NSC

[hybrid whale]

I’m eating tandoori curry flavored chicken

[gleaming parcel]

I screwed myself over today anyways

[pearl glade]

omg curry

yum

[thick charm]

do you have coins for Yaoyao? she can heal and she does green

otherwise ig Collei is fine

[rich wasp]

oh

[night token]

Yaoyao is cutie. She summons wabbits

[rich wasp]

[gleaming parcel]

not really, I tried to play Yao Yao and I couldn’t defeat her

[pearl glade]

1984

[thick charm]

dang

[rich wasp]

here

i tried not to go too overboadr on makng it spicy

should be a standard enough list

[gleaming parcel]

I played 12 games and lost all of them so I’m probably screwed for this match anyways

[thick charm]

well lemm-- actually nevermind there's not a single thing I could come up with that's better than SI's

[slow heart]

unseen weapon I like it

[inner dagger]

Stop telling wich cards o wich decks teach she how to play

[night token]

Maybe it's your skills that may need improvement

[thick charm]

btw Coryn there's matchmaking

[gleaming parcel]

wdym match making

[thick charm]

so like eventually you'll find someone you can win against even if it's cope

[gleaming parcel]

isn’t there a maximum number of games I can play??

[thick charm]

35, but should be enough right

[night token]

It's great practice to have an idea on how to play your decks & get experience w/ human players

[thick charm]

anyway go with SI's deck I was gonna suggest something kinda similar

yeah forget about winning for now

[slow heart]

@slow mason spec my game

[gleaming parcel]

Idk, I’m at almost half the total and I’ve lost every game

[thick charm]

focus on learning and practicing

[gleaming parcel]

Like I said, I’ll get maybe 5 or 10 primos if I’m lucky and I won’t get the card back

[slow mason]

goin

[thick charm]

well, now you've got a bunch of advice for your main deck

[hybrid whale]

Yeah you’re gonna keep losing for a while but that doesn’t matter, what matters is experience and slow improvement

[night token]

You can watch YouTube videos as well

[gleaming parcel]

Not if I don’t have anything to show for it

[rich wasp]

adding some spice

[slow mason]

no observe button

[slow heart]

nvm

prob shouldn't spec tavern game

[frigid sundial]

You'll get better soon if you keep continue playing and practicing

[gleaming parcel]

I really don’t want to use Fischl

[rich wasp]

ah ok

[hybrid whale]

Not if you keep whining instead of using that time to listen to people’s advice and practice

[rich wasp]

yae work?

or cant get yae

[thick charm]

hey SI how about a bit more sugary food to give them a safety net

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have Yae

[thick charm]

like I like spice but maybe we need less spice

[night token]

But I don't want diabetes

[hybrid whale]

Sara works too right

[rich wasp]

sara should also work

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have Sara

[slow mason]

can you not unlock it?

[twilit steppe]

WHAT FREE WIN

[thick charm]

maybe no coins

[gleaming parcel]

Even if I have the coins I still would have to beat them

[rich wasp]

[thick charm]

for now, I think you should swallow your pride and use fischl for a bit and pretend she's yae or sara

[slow heart]

Dp vs ayamiya and I r2 kill yoi

[rich wasp]

nah

fischl bad

yae and sara lets you play quick knit spice

[hybrid whale]

If you don’t have characters unlocked that means you haven’t played enough to give up on improving in tcg

[frigid sundial]

[thick charm]

but I think I'd be better to focus on main deck

actually yea what's your player level

[gleaming parcel]

10

[thick charm]

this tournament is open to all, but it'd give an idea of how many coins you have around

ah I see so you've done a fair bit in-game

do you have some lucky coins around to buy dupes of certain cards?

[slow mason]

if you have 1000 coins you can unlock everyone

[ancient spindle]

how about sara tighnari Venti

ventiz 2.0

[slow mason]

or a single invitation

[thick charm]

the thing is that Tighnari and Cyno are a must here

[slow heart]

tig and cyno is a must right?

[thick charm]

yea

[slow heart]

let me try to cook something up

[gleaming parcel]

I do t have venti or Sara

[hybrid whale]

Only other chars I see working are dendro chars like Collei

[slow heart]

I have seen cyno nahida mona before

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have mOna

[night token]

So what character cards do you currently have?

[slow heart]

get her then

[slow mason]

surely there is some npc or challenge you can play to get 1000 coins so you can get a character

[frigid sundial]

Veryveryextremecope but maybe xq nari cyno

[slow heart]

she is a very versatile unit to have

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t like her

[rich wasp]

xq nari cyno

i actually lost to that one

awhiel ago

[hybrid whale]

Maybe you should focus on unlocking chars then, good place to practice new decks that people have cooked for you here

[frigid sundial]

[night token]

There's no deck that wins all

[slow heart]

If you avoid character because you don't like then, you won't know what they do and it will be difficult to play against them

[thick charm]

also that

this is a competitive game, it's fine to not want to play meta, but you need to know how the meta looks like, like someone else (freddy?) said

[night token]

The only way to improve is to play more and be open

[gleaming parcel]

I have
Diona
Xingqiu
Chongyun
Koko
Ayato
Diluc
Xiangling
Fischl
Keqing
Cyno
Sucrose
Jean
Kazuha
Collei
Tighnari
Cyno
Nahida
Oceanid
fatui agent (assassin?)
Terrorshroom chicken
And I do have Yao Yao, I don’t remember beating her

[night token]

Aww yass the vegan chicken

[thick charm]

I came up with this one, probably way worse than SI's but I think it's also simpler to pilot

[slow heart]

no barbara can't play dp

[rich wasp]

i see diona xq are the first 2 you listed

[gleaming parcel]

I went in the order they showed up in my build deck screen

It’s not that deep

[rich wasp]

no its just funny bc diona xq barbara is the deck i hate the most

[twilit steppe]

Diona Xingqiu Kokomi is a deck that works

[thick charm]

deck has plenty of healing so you don't feel like you miss Kokomi too much, plenty of food to get value out of Chef Mao

[gleaming parcel]

[rich wasp]

heres a way to think about it

[thick charm]

Gambler's Earrings and Fresh Wind of Freedom to push advantage, and Timmie and Strategize to draw cards

use Vanarana to have more flexibility when you're low on dice, but I think you should set up only one and keep the other as tuning fodder if needed

[rich wasp]

healing on characters and in general healing that happens outside of the turn where a character is going to die is not nearly as valuable as healing that you can control that gets you out of breakpoints

[thick charm]

shit that's right I should include a Bestest Travel Companion 'cause that's also an easy card

[rich wasp]

ok nvm that might not make any sense ignore me

[slow mason]

[thick charm]

it makes sense to me dw

[hybrid whale]

Okay I watched like the first minute of @smoky solar ‘s footage, please do not use normal attacks in early rounds unless you have a really really good reason to @gleaming parcel

[slow mason]

too many complicated terms

[hybrid whale]

Let’s start there

[sullen walrus]

healling is bad unless you mess up their break point

[night token]

I smell costco pizza in the bus

[gleaming parcel]

Really because most games I played, the first thing someone did was do a normal attack

[tropic slate]

ryssa I hate to tell you this but you're a top player

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve also gotten really bad rolls on dice and I just don’t have the dice to do a skill

[tropic slate]

...which isn't a thing I hate to tell you, actually, I'm happy to tell you

[hybrid whale]

If that’s the case you really have room for improvement and there’s no reason to think you can’t possibly improve more

[gleaming parcel]

I’ve also gotten really bad rolls on dice and I just don’t have the dice to do a skill

[thick charm]

you can use that as an excuse to invest into cards that will give you an advantage later

i.e set up

[gleaming parcel]

if I need 3 hydro dice and I only have one and no cards to sacrifice or use then what am I supposed to do

[hybrid whale]

That’s why you have cards that help you get the dice you want, and worst case you can tune a card to change a dice’s element

[thick charm]

this is also why having two of each card helps btw

[gleaming parcel]

I have cards that do that, but I can’t do anything if I don’t get them in my hand

[twilit steppe]

Thank you but I feel like I'm the worst among everyone else though, I mean I have like 12 losses now I think

[gleaming parcel]

Same

[thick charm]

if you see every card that's uniquely valuable and that you must absolutely play, then the decision to tune it is much heavier

[hybrid whale]

Hey it’s not just you who has to tune using cards you want to keep

[thick charm]

for now go try one of the decks that SI (or I) made for you

go practice a little bit against npcs and see how it feels

[hybrid whale]

Cards like Liben help you get omni dice later on but sometimes you just get unlucky

[sullen walrus]

You run cards to fix that. If you are playing a aggro deck and need to do skill in early turn, you mull for bestest or toss up. If you play stall or combo, figure out way to use those bad dice with ramp cards and use them later

[thick charm]

choose whichever deck you're the closest to being able to build with your current lucky coin budget

[gleaming parcel]

I just played tcg for 5 hours straight and lost every game, I don’t think I want to play any more

[thick charm]

that's fine, the idea is not to burn yourself out either

plus, queue is closed for tonight lol

take a break for now, and come back at it tomorrow with renewed energy

you've got the whole server rallying behind you

[slow heart]

which server are you in?

[hybrid whale]

Maybe you should have someone play your deck and watch that

[slow heart]

if you need practice people are there to help you test decks

[gleaming parcel]

I honestly can’t even think straight any more. Im depressed and I have a headache and I’m regretting being in this tournament at all

[gleaming parcel]

I probably won’t be able to play tomorrow

[hybrid whale]

Please rest then lol

Playing is not the only road to improving

[thick charm]

talking is good too

[gleaming parcel]

I can’t rest, I have to work on my drawing commissions

[thick charm]

you drew that banner on your profile btw?

[hybrid whale]

Next time don’t burn yourself out too much

[gleaming parcel]

No

well what am I supposed to do

Isn’t the point of the tournament to try to win

[thick charm]

not really, at least not for me

[hybrid whale]

Nobody should be playing a competitive video game for over 3 hours straight

[rich wasp]

cough

[thick charm]

I just came in wanting the card back, just 3 wins, but then I kept playing and here I am for my second season

[rich wasp]

yeah nobody would ever play a compettiive video game for more htan 3 hours at a time

[hybrid whale]

This is coming from experience as a competitive Smash player

Past like 2-3 hours I couldn’t focus at all lol

[thick charm]

and look at all the lovely people here how could I not want to come back for more

[gleaming parcel]

Heheheh yeah well I just threw 12 losses into the trash out of my 35 total Max games so I’m kinda screwed either way

[thick charm]

yea, but now you've got fresh ideas to try next

[gleaming parcel]

The queue times don’t fit very well into my schedule

[thick charm]

whether you practice them in tournament games, or casually against npcs

surely you got something out of this conversation, right?

[hybrid whale]

If someone with little tcg exp made top 16 first try I would be amazed tbh

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah, I’m a little b*tch

[pearl glade]

:<

[slow heart]

xq cyno tig might actually be cooking

[gleaming parcel]

I honestly don’t think I’ll be able to queue again

[slow heart]

weird but work somehow

[thick charm]

my naughty side wants to agree but look I ended up staying here to try and uplift you so hey

please tell me I didn't waste my time in vain :')

don't stress over too much over the remaining matches/queues, just take our advice and try it in pve

[gleaming parcel]

The 6-10am time, I’m asleep
The 4-9pm time I’m at work
so so realistic this was the only day I could play. And I lost every single match.

[twilit steppe]

The very first EU leadearboard is like this right

[thick charm]

hopefully you see yourself winning more and more confident next time

[night token]

No need to stress too much

[thick charm]

'cause again character cards are cute and all but they do need a nice deck to back themselves up

[night token]

It's not the end of the world

[gleaming parcel]

I am stressing because I shouldn’t have even competed

[thick charm]

no such thing dear

again you're kinda shitting on the people here that are trying to help

who you wouldn't have met if you hadn't signed up

[gleaming parcel]

I waisted 5 hours losing when I could have been working on commissions and drawing projects and not getting depressed and hating myself

[thick charm]

there's a silver lining to everything and trying to find it helps me cope with shit

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t know what that is here.

[thick charm]

friends

[gleaming parcel]

Lol it seemed like everyone was fed up with me though so I don’t think I’d call them friends

[thick charm]

indeed, I was this close 👌 but at the end, deck suggestions were given

and I also can't speak for everyone else here

so if you don't value the people that tried to walk you through your deck, well

you got some deck suggestions to try out

[gleaming parcel]

I’m sorry to be so depressing,
I just
I didn’t expect to lose every match. Maybe not win all of them but I didn’t think I was THAT bad of a player. To lose every game.

And it’s hard to not be bothered by it,and scared of help. Because when I have asked for help with game play before, my experiences generally HAVENT been good.
I’ve been unfriended for defending baizhu. I’ve been told all the things I said I was scared of happening. I’ve been attacked and harassed for the teams I use and the characters I play; not just in tcg but in genshin as a whole too.
And when I try a meta team or a meta character, it just doesn’t work. People would swear by ayaka but I couldn’t get damage anywhere near where people said she could get. I regularly use Ayato and get through abyss, but I get so much hate for using him with Thoma and not Yun Jin or Fischl. I get told to use Fischl and Raiden and Nahida for pretty much every team I every have, but raiden and Fischl are two characters I can’t stand, and I don’t have Nahida.

My reactions were based on past experiences and the fact that they’ve never gone well. I don’t like meta because every experience I’ve had with a meta player has been horrible.

I am an anxious individual, but I really want to do well. But it’s hard when I just suck at everything and I can’t don”the right things.” Right.

I’ve accepted that I’m an unconventional player as a whole, but it’s still not fun to be harassed and pulled for that, because it’s left me traumatized. I’ve always put value on what people think of me and I do feel bad that I reacted this way and made you all hate me.

Im sorry. I just get stuck inside my head and I don’t know what to do. I battle so much with wanting to be myself but wanting to be good and I feel like I can’t be both. I have have to give up being myself and do exactly what others say if I want to be good. And if I want to be myself then I have to accept being hated and made fun of and sucking.

And I don’t like it.

I don’t like having to chose between being myself or being good.

Im not trying to make excuses, at thins point I can’t even think straight and i probably need to drink some water, I just.

I don’t know. I get in my head a lot. I regret having joined because it just made me feel bad about myself and I won’t have time to compete again to even try to do better.

and I didn’t make any friends.

Just forget I was even here.

[thick charm]

Look fren, again I can't speak for everyone here but while I will transparently admit that you were exasperating me, I can't possibly say that I hate you.
Also, hot take or rather take-of-unkown-temperature but genshrek players who care way too much about the single player meta to the point of policing how others want to play are simply dumb.
This might be speculation but maybe you also perceived negatively advice that really was just meant to be well-intentioned? Of course I don't know what really happened so if you really got flamed for playing the single player part of the game, in the way you want to play it, then these people suck shit and you're better off without them. I should know, I play all story quests with traveler only and without using TPs, I'm as unconventional as it gets.

I don't wanna make it seem like I'm trying to put pressure on you or anything, I genuinely don't like people beating themselves over so I, and many others (I hope) went with the idea of helping you get a second wind.
It's a shame you don't have more time to keep participating in the tournament, but I really don't think that's what you need right now, even if just from the perspective of improving in the game, let alone for your mental state.
But people gave you a bunch of suggestions, so if you're serious about improving, please consider them and play around with them, and make compromises with what you like using and playing with, and see how it feels and if they work for you or not. Again, it's okay if you can't keep practicing in the tournament, just try them out against the CPU or in your free time in random matchmaking or ping someone here to play when you're feeling better.

[hybrid whale]

So, does anyone want to play practice matches? I wanna try out my secondary decks

[thick charm]

Look I said to ping someone when you wanna play… but uhhh, I did mean someone else because it's late for me and I'm tired

[gleaming parcel]

All I wanted was some damn primos. And I won’t even get that.

[pearl glade]

I’m down

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t have the energy to draw any more with how drained I am

[thick charm]

fwiw unless you're a gigachad top player the payout is flatout not good

[gleaming parcel]

Rip Satan’s bday art

[thick charm]

your time is unironically better spent finding a common chest

[hybrid whale]

652608673

[gleaming parcel]

Like I said, I just didn’t realize I was that bad

But I should have known better, that always happens to me with every hobby or talent I am in.
That’s why I said I’m bad at life

[thick charm]

alright, but right here you have people behind you to give you a nudge, so please try again when you're feeling better later, okay?

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t know what to even do any more

[thick charm]

for now, rest

then come by and say hi tomorrow

[pearl glade]

Request sent

[gleaming parcel]

I shouldn’t though

[night token]

I know reality is harsh but when bad things happen the opposite has to happen

[gleaming parcel]

I shouldn’t rest

[thick charm]

indluge though, if you're in a bad mental state when you need to do something, you're gonna spiral down if you try to force yourself to do it

[gleaming parcel]

I barely made any progress on my comms this week because it was shark week and I was dying and I feel awful about it

[thick charm]

genuinely take a rest

I'm Chilean, we have a very important saying that goes "never do today what you could leave for tomorrow"

[gleaming parcel]

if I take a rest I’m going to end up falling asleep for 12 hours then waking up and having to get ready for work

[twilit steppe]

Omg sometimes I abide by this motto

[gleaming parcel]

throwing away precious time

[thick charm]

ok, and what if you don't rest?

you're gonna be feeling like shit later

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t know, I’ll probably suck

[thick charm]

well then, might as well suck but be rested then

[gleaming parcel]

If I rest I’m just gonna be depressed and hate myself more but I already hate myself

When I get into this mood I don’t know what to do because I feel like every option has a negative consequence

[slow heart]

When I feel depress I do something that will cheer me up

[thick charm]

that's just how it is

[slow heart]

Like watching cat video

[gleaming parcel]

yeah for me that’s playing genshin but I don’t wanna play genshin right now

[thick charm]

but I'm not your therapist and I can barely hold myself together, so try to find yourself and find something that works for you

oh

rip

[gleaming parcel]

Im sorry

I should stop talking

[slow heart]

Coryn can I ask you a question?

[thick charm]

but honestly, treat yourself to something

[gleaming parcel]

It’s also hard for me to think straight when I’m like this

[night token]

If you need therapy, it's best to do so irl (also keep in mind that the mods are watching)

[gleaming parcel]

My rational side of my brain just yeets itself out the window

[thick charm]

maybe you don't want to rest, but treat yourself to something

[slow heart]

Do you feel like the help people are providing you doesn’t really help you because there is a gap between their knowledge and what you know?

[subtle ibex]

hey coryn i totally get how much of a struggle it is to be constantly compared with and thus not helping the anxieties that already exist in your head- i've been there and i know how hollow it is to feel like you're stuck with where you're at, and basically be constantly bashing your head on something that you hope would turn out better, when in reality you haven't made much progress at all -- but i wanna say that as with everything, there's always is a path forward that you can march on; in fact, i choose to believe that you will despite the feelings telling you otherwise this isn't the end of the tournament either! we're always hosting a new season pretty much every month or so, so you always have time to learn or practice!
i will say however that if you were personally harassed/attacked about your playstyle or otherwise, then please immediately reach out to us. there's no tolerance of that in any place that we have some control over, and we will make sure that this tournament remains a safe, encouraging place for all to come in and join, no matter where their skill level lies.
you have the ability to be more than you can ever imagine, the only hurdle being realizing that yourself and if you need to, please def take some time off and come back any time you feel like you're ready to give this another shot. we'll be waiting, and we'll be here wishing you the best, always ^^

[gleaming parcel]

I can’t treat myself to any food because I’ve eaten my calories for today

[gleaming parcel]

Like I’m too dumb to see their help as help?

[slow heart]

No as in the good player can’t see your perspective

And offer help in a different way

There are things that good player that take for granted everyone playing tcg should know

And that can make it feel hostile when they offer you help

[thick charm]

True, like doubling down on cards and stuff

I'd be happy to try to come up with a better explanation if it wasn't clear why it's so beneficial

(and again this is an universal tcg concept, p much every tcg you play you'll want to bring as many copies of a good card as you can)

[polar barn]

[gleaming parcel]

Maybe, you guys talked about watching the video elephant posted but you can’t see my cards or dice

[thick charm]

also I saw SI deck and I know he's a godly player and I'm scratching my head a bit at a couple cards, he's just that out of my league lol

[gleaming parcel]

And something may have seemed like such a dramatic mistake to everyone else may have seemed like the only option I had based on what I was given

[thick charm]

well true sometimes you've gotta do the most with what you're given

and maybe there's a better thing to do (i.e switch stall or somethign) that isn't immediately obvious but you see, there's that clock in the left putting pressure on you

[night token]

Funny enough SI is literally the last player I've played against yesterday

[thick charm]

it's ok to make mistakes, you can still win eventually

improvement is gradual

[polar barn]

how consistent is it

[gleaming parcel]

I also have some cards that are just comfortable to use and what I’m using to having like artifacts and weapons and cards that make playing them easier but I feel like those aren’t need at all based on what I’m being shown and I don’t know what to do

[slow heart]

I think I want to make a basic guide for the newer player

[night token]

I was this close to defeating SI, but I've gotten the uno reversed card by him

[gleaming parcel]

There are also some cards that’s like “why use that card when you can use this one instead.”

And again, there are a lot of things I HAVE tried

[night token]

Welp, I still have a long way to go

[gleaming parcel]

But I felt like that wasn’t being listened to and I was just being told I was complaining

[thick charm]

I don't think having weapons or artifacts is bad in general, is just that they're an investment and you need to ensure it'll pay off

try the deck I put forward, I made it a point not to make it like, super good but to be approachable I hope (disclaimer: didn't try it myself)

[slow heart]

Coryn are you interested in a guide that can help guide you through deck building and playing?

[polar barn]

just brick his dice , like i always do

[gleaming parcel]

maybe, my brain just can’t do anything right now

I don’t want to open genshin

[slow heart]

The problem with giving deck to other player is that they don’t know what to do, how it work

[gleaming parcel]

I think I’m done with tcg

[slow heart]

It is better for them to gain a foundation first

[gleaming parcel]

I also think the decks you recommended got buried

[thick charm]

yea I gave a short explanation on what to expect from the deck I put

im still thinking about SI's

lemme find the decks for you

SI's standard deck
SI's spicier deck
my dumb deck

oh god vertical embeds let me remove a couple

[gleaming parcel]

I appreciate the help I just
I don’t know any more

[thick charm]

a little description for my deck is that it doesn't have many cards to play aggressive, but instead a lot of food and healing to ease you into playing without Kokomi. In that sense, Collei *existing* is the aggression from the deck.
You still have a couple cards that you can play to push an advantage, but most of the cards are to heal off and react to opponent's actions

a gameplan would be uh…

[night token]

I love how all of these decks remind me to touch grass

[thick charm]

well actually I don't know how to play any of those characters 🥲 so I guess what you'd want to do is try to get Culein Anbar while Cyno accumulates his morbin power for later, and then you go throw Electro normal attacks boosted by Quicken

[gleaming parcel]

Like I said I just can’t think right now. I don’t think my brain is processing any information you’re telling me

[thick charm]

Tighnari idk I genuinely haven't played him

that's okay, save a message's link you can come back later to

<#1072075083025223770 message> <-- put that link somewhere safe

[gleaming parcel]

You can make a message link?

I didn’t know discord could do that

[thick charm]

oh uh, convenient feature turned inconvenient rn how do I turn it back to a text link

ah that worked

[gleaming parcel]

Im sorry

Im really sorry

[thick charm]

save that and come back to it when you're feeling better alright?

[gleaming parcel]

I don’t know if I’ll come back

Im too depressed and I don’t like feeling this way

[thick charm]

I understand, I know how that feels

[tropic slate]

If it's making you feel worse, then do step away

I know I've done that with competitive games before

smash bros I just quit entirely when I realized that every play session just put me in a worse mood

[gleaming parcel]

I also don’t like that I can’t get notifs here

[tropic slate]

your mental and emotional health are more important

[gleaming parcel]

heh

[thick charm]

I don't want to be overbearing or anything so take a break and just forget about the tcg for a while if you need to

[gleaming parcel]

It hard because I don’t like giving up either so I just

Im unhappy about the whole thing

[tropic slate]

every choice you ever make is giving up on all but one of the outcomes. Don't think of it as giving up, though, think of it as prioritizing

there's never enough time for everything, so do whatever makes your life better

[thick charm]

Look I applaud you for that, I don't like when people give up, and fuck knows I get myself anxious trying to squeeze an extra second on the abyss lmao

But if you need a break, just take a break

[gleaming parcel]

But if I take a break then what was the poin in the first place

[thick charm]

Well you got to talk to people who felt like giving you some guidance

[gleaming parcel]

If I take a break and don’t play tcg again then it just reiterates that this was something I shouldn’t have done and I made a bad decision

[thick charm]

That's why it's a break and not quitting

[slow heart]

Take a break does not mean not coming back again

It is to clear your mind and come back with a different mentality

[polar barn]

i have a simple mindset

[slow heart]

Go take a break nomad

[polar barn]

i do something i like

why me

[gleaming parcel]

I guess

[polar barn]

me no break

[thick charm]

Like, it's a shame you can't keep participating in the prelims because messy timeslots, but you aren't walking out of this emptyhanded either.
Maybe you didn't get primogems but shiny rocks aren't a substitute for experience

[gleaming parcel]

Idk I feel like I’m walking in circles

[gleaming parcel]

But I participated specifically for some primos

[thick charm]

yea depression is a vicious circle, but feel you're building the willpower to break it

[gleaming parcel]

Like it kinda sucks if you don’t get SOMETHING for participating in this

“Hey, I ruined my mental health and self esteem participating in this tournament, can I at least get something*

[thick charm]

[gleaming parcel]

Even if it was just Mora and Xp and weapon leveling rocks or something

[polar barn]

worrypat

[thick charm]

the primogems per win are a recent addition I think

[polar barn]

if i could I would donate my primos and welkins

[thick charm]

like season 3 and earlier it was just "lol, lmao, get rekt sucker"

[polar barn]

there should be an option tbh

[night token]

You're not the only one going for the primos

[slow heart]

They host this tournament every month? So if you aren’t feeling well this time, take a break and come back more prepare next time

[gleaming parcel]

Yeah but if you never win a match it still sucks

[night token]

There are always way to get more primos

[gleaming parcel]

lol I’m still gonna suck next time and I still probably won’t be able to have it fit in my schedule

They need to open the window

the timeframe is too small

to participate

I know it’s multiple days but people have jobs and lives

[slow heart]

I will have the guide done by the time season 6 rolls around

[thick charm]

I agree, especially if sussy paimon can totally turn off her brain and fail to matchmake for like 3 matchmaking windows

[slow heart]

Hopefully

[thick charm]

never forgetti season 4

[polar barn]

DP guide