[America Server] Discussions

[twilit steppe]

I won against this deck this morning

[slate roost]

can i join the last one

[livid thunder]

[slate roost]

ryssa

you didn't

[pine heron]

We should join gsg

[twilit steppe]

Yes I did but it was kind of painful match ngl

[slate roost]

[livid thunder]

wheres my gsg

[slate roost]

gsg can't be revealed to the world

[livid thunder]

but i used to be a part of it

[slate roost]

ask t*ng

easy on bad words

[grizzled spindle]

uhhhh, why did it say I used bad words?

[slate roost]

by any chance

did you send a genshincards link?

i heard that doesn't work here

[grizzled spindle]

Yes.

[timid marsh]

oh u sent a link

[slate roost]

send a screenshot

[timid marsh]

send a screenshot instead

[prime scroll]

you can use the code from the "export" button

[grizzled spindle]

From where? I don't know how to generate a screenshot like is used on KeqingMains...

[slate roost]

[grizzled spindle]

!!43060F.2K5U.363I3K3L212Z.6237.3J4029.2I2L.2N2T2Y.3G3S6D1K6B=

[slate roost]

i'll do it for you

[slate roost]

oh it's klee mona

[livid thunder]

this is the deck?

its

cooking?

[prime scroll]

almost highlander kleemona

[slate roost]

this is the genshincards ss, probably easier to read

idk if it's legal to send though

pe

[prime scroll]

highlanders do tend to be unexpected due to their innate nature so I can see that

[slate roost]

wait a second...

it's a highlander deck

[livid thunder]

this is the correct ss?

its

cooking?

[raven wyvern]

there's so many single copies lol

[prime scroll]

some of the cards are doubles so it's semi

highlanders are decks where each card is presented with one copy only

if you're unfamiliar with the terminology

[raven wyvern]

but the doubles aren't even the good cards

[prime scroll]

woven not good?

[raven wyvern]

alot of the good cards are only singles

[livid thunder]

tubby tian liu su egg cwof jade chamber wharf winery and cathedral all in monklee

its a salad

[raven wyvern]

wait, there's two harbors, two seelies, and two strategize?

that's alot of cards

[livid thunder]

its

quite unoptimal

[slate roost]

well woven seelie and wharf are good

not sure about wharf in mona klee specifically because i think it fits awkwardly in the rotation

[muted cairn]

card draw fiesta new meta

[slate roost]

i like the cwof sauce though

[muted cairn]

[slate roost]

[twilit steppe]

Wharf in Mona & Klee..?

[slate roost]

but in general i would avoid having so many one-offs

[raven wyvern]

but wharf + other card draw? when wharf already draws 4?

[slate roost]

in general you can think of deckbuilding as like

picking the top 15 of a tierlist of the best to worst cards

[raven wyvern]

yeah true, the goal is to make your deck consistent. and having only one copy of alot of cards makes it less consistent.

[slate roost]

and so generally if you run so many one-offs the deck tends to lean towards being unoptimal

[raven wyvern]

cuse then in alot of games you just won't draw it straight up

[slate roost]

doesn't mean that one-offs are bad and should be avoided at all costs

[grizzled spindle]

The goal is to get either Strategize or Wharf in hand at the start, along with a Jade Chamber. Any other cards will do other than that, but optimal hand would be 2 strategize, 2 chamber, and and either Tian or Liu Su, with Strategizes drawing at least either Mondstadt Hash Brown or Favonius Cathedral, as well as the other of Liu Su or Tian. This will maximize early Energy, which maximizes damage output early-mid game. The deck is supposed to be 'quick setup, quick finish'.

[slate roost]

just that having too many is generally a bad sign

[slate roost]

what's your line of play when you draw wharf?

[raven wyvern]

you're already wrong from the start. you're not supposed to look for card draw in your opening hand. your openeing hand itself is already 10 card draw. you're supposed to look for hte cards you want, and then if you don't get them. then you have to rely on card draw.

[slate roost]

well i personally like looking for draw in the opening hand

tbh

but depends on the deck

generally I love draw in stall

even if i already have double totm or something in my opening

[prime scroll]

monklee in average conditions can output 12 dmg in the first round
and most aggro decks lean towards the finish within 3 rounds
drawing cards gives nice advantage but it's not applicable everywhere

[slate roost]

having restricted options feels awful in a reactive deck

[raven wyvern]

well stall is looking to set up. in other decks where you're just looking to win fast, you'd rather have cards that let you win, rather than card draw

[slate roost]

but in a proactive deck draw definitely falls in importance

[grizzled spindle]

Play it immediately. Even if I already have Strategize as well. The draw power early on will maximize support cards being available. You want all needed pieces in-hand by the end of the second turn. If you don't have them, you'll need to hope the opponent bricks.

[twilit steppe]

Hm personally the card I'm looking for the opening in the Klee Mona Agent deck is stuff like Heavy Strike, Elemental Resonance, Woven, Tandoori Roast Chicken, Changing Shifts, Toss Up, Bestest I want my opening to hurt haha.. Idk if I am doing it wrong or not though sorry

[prime scroll]

if you studied the meta you may have good ideas, but you'll need practice for sure to learn optimal cards and usages

[thick charm]

draw in the initial hand is not the worst thing… but it's more of a bandaid on a scraped knee

[raven wyvern]

yeah, having alot of cards over your opponent is good. but against people who just make due with whatever they draw. you'll be a step behind. and the support cards in this game aren't good enough to make up for that.

[slate roost]

but how do you play it without floating dice?

let me check the list again

[grizzled spindle]

Vanarana is in.

[raven wyvern]

one singular vanarana

[slate roost]

so do you mona skill swap klee play two 2-cost cards or something?

[thick charm]

also lol deck viewer is a bit outdated, Crimson Witch of Flames is now 2 aligned dice rather than 3 unaligned

[arctic valve]

Its curious that, with that many accelerators, and he doesnt use sumeru city

[slate roost]

oh wait

you're right

i'll ask the person involved to fix that i guess

[prime scroll]

that's why we need more GITCG content
so people can easily access standard openers and their strengths :gldge:

[grizzled spindle]

well, if you have one in play, then draw a second one, it's basically just sitting in your hand until you need tuning, which isn't ideal. It's just unnecessary deck space used.

[thick charm]

oh if you're gonna tell someone about it ig it goes without saying but all the standard +15% elemental damage artifact sets received the buff so there's that

[livid thunder]

yeah but

you have a higher chance of drawing it

if you run 2

instead of 1

[thick charm]

ok but what if you never draw it because you only have one copy

or draw it too late because you relied on drawing to get your singular copy

you complained about bad dice rolls too, it's not the worst thing to have tuning fodder honestly

[grizzled spindle]

With my setup, I most of the time have enough dice to attack once with mona and klee, and then end my round. I rarely have leftover dice. It's just there for insurance, mainly.

[prime scroll]

every card is a dice fixer if you think about it

[thick charm]

like even if you plan on only playing one copy of the card I think a lot of the time I'd take two copies anyway

[arctic valve]

ganyu mains can confirm it

[grizzled spindle]

I only use mona every other round anyway, so the more pyro dice the better, actually.

[prime scroll]

[livid thunder]

so uh

out of curiosity

what do you start on r1

[grizzled spindle]

You mean Ganyu + Keqing mains. Note I just said Keqing Mains.

[grizzled spindle]

This plus getting 3 Hydro and 3 Pyro dice, or the equivalent thereof, in my starting setup.

[livid thunder]

so your r1 is just mona e into klee e?

in the event that you draw wharf you cant do that line though

[slate roost]

by the way

[livid thunder]

unless youre also relying on woven for it?

[slate roost]

i just noticed

but no arcane cards?

[arctic valve]

uh no coven

[slate roost]

esp covenant of rock

[livid thunder]

covenant is a must have in monklee

[grizzled spindle]

Yes. 6 damage or more in the first round.

[long ledge]

By the way, where's the Suc in your name

[slate roost]

I am gsg

[long ledge]

Gsg?

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah Covenant of Rock is my favorite card in the Mona Klee deck

[grizzled spindle]

CoR is mainly used in conjunction with Liben, so not having it is okay.

[slate roost]

[livid thunder]

thats the basic line yes but you could also have klee ca or more damage in that same line

no but

you can use covenant to ca with klee

[long ledge]

Also, no . Suc

[livid thunder]

[slate roost]

k*temis

[long ledge]

You're a SUC member. Are you ashamed of it

[slate roost]

i'm gsg

why do you keep saying i'm suc

[grizzled spindle]

In theory, the deck should have a solid start 75% of the time. In practice, due to game RNG bias, it actually wins (so far) about 10% of the time, which is very bad.

[long ledge]

Maybe I should remove you then

[grizzled spindle]

Anyway, this whole message chain was to report matching with high-rank players with low win players like myself, not to talk about my deck.

[arctic valve]

we were just curious

[grizzled spindle]

I really wish it would be investigated, and allow a do-over if need be. As things stand, I'm very sure I'm not the only player negatively impacted by this issue.

As I said, my last opponent said it also happened to him as well on 2 occasions.

[arctic valve]

i have a question for you, as you are complaining about it, this mean you are serious in trying to get to top 16 and majors, right?

[grizzled spindle]

hang on.. I fought you 2 days ago. I believe you were the second player I was unfairly matched up against...

[arctic valve]

dude, even if i was on the top at that moment, i'm not even close to be a top player

[slate roost]

[slate roost]

did you calculate it?

[muted cairn]

[slate roost]

there is no such thing as game rng bias

no wait

actually

there is

[livid thunder]

he just lied?

[prime scroll]

3hydro+3pyro start from dice is about 50%, which was calculated by the community, so these hopes are optimistic

[livid thunder]

[slate roost]

and it's actually a bias against single ccard decks, though it's meant to improve your rng

[long ledge]

Hmmmmm?

[slate roost]

basically

[livid thunder]

not my j*slin

[slate roost]

if you toss a card in the mulligan

you won't see it again in the reroll (but you can still see it in future draws)

[long ledge]

[muted cairn]

everyone gonna be purged ... ayawah

[slate roost]

this is me

[slate roost]

why are you green?

[muted cairn]

i have dendro vision

[grizzled spindle]

Having those dice is not the only way to have a solid start. Actually, as long as you have all needed pieces by the end of r2, it is considered a solid start. 25% of the time the hand bricks, even with redraws.

[slate roost]

our dendro vision

[muted cairn]

pitashake

im blessed by nahida the best archon

[arctic valve]

the thing is, most games end on T3 - T4, so, getting 2 turns as start, is not a solid start

[slate roost]

if your deck fails to execute it's gameplan consistently in practice then there's probably something wrong with the decklist in my experience

[prime scroll]

well by the end of r2 some aggro decks will be ready to deal 20dmg in the next round

[slate roost]

i know because

i've made a ton of decks that seemed interesting in theory

[livid thunder]

[slate roost]

but didn't really work as well as expected in practice

in the end theory can only extend so far

[livid thunder]

my mono cryo kenki sauce

[slate roost]

that wasn't even interesting in theory

[slate roost]

[grizzled spindle]

As I said, quick setup, quick finish is the goal. You should have your opponent have 1 character left by the beginning of t5 in the best case, all opponents be low health in worst case.

[long ledge]

T5 is quite slow for monklee

If you're not winning or have an advantage by r2, you're probably losing

[grizzled spindle]

Just so you guys know, I copied the top MonKlee deck card for card at the start, and proceeded to lose the next 3 matches. All 3 times I ran out of steam by r3, even though I had an advantage healthwise.

[slate roost]

t5??

[slate roost]

by the way

I hope you didn't copy the one over on keqingmains?

[arctic valve]

How many games do you think it takes for you to know how to properly play a deck

[grizzled spindle]

No, I did not.

[slate roost]

okay good

that specific guide was the first to be released... so it's a little outdated

[long ledge]

What decks are you running against

[slate roost]

well that's just typical mona klee tbh

[long ledge]

Could be that you're just running against decks that naturally beat monklee

[slate roost]

especially if you're up against decks with any semblance of survival

if they can survive your initial onslaught the game is pretty much over

[grizzled spindle]

I practiced the heck out of it before the tournament. On the Serious Showdown Jadeplume Terrorshroom. I won 45% of the time, which I thought was good enough for most opponents in the tournament.

[arctic valve]

wait a minute

[grizzled spindle]

I played between 25 and 35 games.

[arctic valve]

where did you practice those decks

[grizzled spindle]

In Tavern Challenge.

Jadeplume. Serious Showdown. The one with 48HP.

[livid thunder]

thats

not the best place to practice

at all

[arctic valve]

why didnt you come here searching for practice partners

[long ledge]

Just play in aoc or random mm

[muted cairn]

aoc?

[grizzled spindle]

Because I didn't think it would matter much. I didn't start with Jadeplume, mind you. I also beat a few invitable characters in Serious Showdown about 5 times. Won easily in 3 rounds in most cases. So I escalated the difficulty for damage.

[muted cairn]

also, tavern challenges are not the place to practice. CTG is a difficult tourney where many good players that has earned prizes from other big tourneys still find it hard to qualify

[polar barn]

PVE

[muted cairn]

practicing a lot on pve doesnt help. last season there is someone who actually played in all 3 regions and play 105 matches in one week (outside of whatever he did off ctg). that is the amount of practice some ppl do

[grizzled spindle]

I wanted to try something that could blow the meta wide open. I think most current decks capitalize on 2-copy setups for every card too much, often unnecessarily.

1 copy can do just as well as 2 for most cards, and I found a way to prove it.

[jaunty python]

Hmm, what's the math behind that?

[grizzled spindle]

You guys say that most games don't get past r4, but I have been able to draw the game out to r8 or higher many times.

[jaunty python]

I would love to run more one off copies for flexibility but you sacrifice some consistency in card draws

[grizzled spindle]

In this tournament, actually.

[livid thunder]

on monklee?

something isnt right here

[prime scroll]

the players vary highly in their experience because this is an open tournament

[grizzled spindle]

Don't knock it until you try it. It is all about the setup. If you get the setup right, you can draw out the game quite a bit.

The goal was to never lose steam. That's this deck's purpose. I wasn't counting on RNG bias when making this deck, however.

[polar barn]

[livid thunder]

if you play monklee youre not supposed to sustain

[polar barn]

It's a gas deck

[livid thunder]

maybe you should consider playing a stall deck?

[grizzled spindle]

If you don't quick kill, the alternative is to stall it out and hope your opponent eventually bricks.

[polar barn]

||give him the Dp sauce||

He wants to convert

[grizzled spindle]

And on paper, one of these should be the outcome 75% of the time.

[arctic valve]

he is not ready for DP

[livid thunder]

but the point is your deck is inherently weaker if you dont play aggro

[polar barn]

Monklee stall

The new sauce

Mona with totm

Her E makes her tanky

Trust

[arctic valve]

totm on agent doesnt seem bad at all

[thick charm]

man what am I reading

[prime scroll]

ahem monklee cannot stall in high-level games
those are reserved for double hydro and double geo due to their resonances
people here have participated in many tourneys and they know what are they talking about from experience
if you won some games - that's nice, but you won't see much success with your deck (although we can see you did not already)
pursuing wrong ideals you have right now will lead you nowhere

[polar barn]

[thick charm]

[grizzled spindle]

You only play aggro with the optimal setup. Otherwise if you hand brick, stall is the alternative. This deck can indeed aggro. Liu Su and Tian together build Energy exceptionally quickly. You'll have a burst by r2 guaranteed, and another one the round after. That's this decks premise.

[long ledge]

Monklee with tubby . To be more efficient, maybe you replace klee with Fischl and Mona with Oceanid

[thick charm]

man and i thought my 39% winrate sucked

[grizzled spindle]

I did think about that, actually.

[jaunty python]

maybe a Tao double hydro deck would fit that playstyle better

[grizzled spindle]

But replacing Agent with either Fischl or Sucrose and Mona with Oceanid.

[livid thunder]

but if your deck is optimal then you should be able to play aggro all the time

[grizzled spindle]

Actually, the first match I played today was that exact matchup.

[arctic valve]

Its a pun, there is actually a top deck called Agent EC that uses oceanid, fischl and agent

[polar barn]

||according to CN||

[grizzled spindle]

Mona+Tao+Xingqiu

[jaunty python]

CN is cooking some really fun decks

[arctic valve]

cartoon network?

[jaunty python]

y'all ever tried Unseen Razor

[polar barn]

Yes

[arctic valve]

i approve

[polar barn]

Yes

[arctic valve]

Yes

[long ledge]

Only in quicken weapon decks, and honestly, those decks are tier 2 at best

[livid thunder]

but what about my lithic spear suace

sauce

[jaunty python]

They have no sustain but they are super fun to play

[polar barn]

Indeed

[long ledge]

Fun>efficiency

[grizzled spindle]

Why don't we get back to discussing the original purpose of this chat. lol I can always change my deck again if need be. I've only played 3 matches with the current deck I posted here. It's been through several iterations. This actually was the least successful so far.

[prime scroll]

there's no purpose

only chaos

[polar barn]

Why don't u duel with any one of us

[thick charm]

mate I lost my first 5 matches

[polar barn]

To prove your point

[long ledge]

Monklee is a go big or go home deck. In theory, trying to make it more adaptable is good, but in practice, with limited card draws and the nature of how the deck works, you're better off just increasing it's aggressiveness over adaptability

[arctic valve]

you didnt answer my question, are you serious on getting into top 16 and going to majors?

[grizzled spindle]

Oh, GAWD. A reference to 'there is no princess, Mario, only suffering', huh? smh

[thick charm]

why you getting discouraged after three losses, you still have 32 matches left to get your card back

take in the advice, improve your deck, and try again, matchmaking actually puts you with losers like me over time so you can pick a couple wins and get the fomo prize

[grizzled spindle]

No, only 25. I have played 10 matches. The problem isn't about me losing. It is the principle that matchmaking is broken that drove me to post here.

[arctic valve]

again, are you serious on getting into top 16?

[grizzled spindle]

Yes, I am serious. I only have 1 win right now, but mainly because I'm still experimenting.

[long ledge]

Goodluck

[thick charm]

uhm not to clown on you but did you consider practicing against other players in random matchmaking rather than jadeplume terrorshroom and serious showdown chars

'cause the AI is not super good

[arctic valve]

allright, top 16 almost always gets most of the best players from the server, why do you complain about playing against them

[thick charm]

and their decks are… kinda just okay. Not bad but not really good

[muted cairn]

[thick charm]

oh also that. I didn't even consider that perspective

[muted cairn]

and btw some of the NA top players havent done their quota

due to the bot broke down

[arctic valve]

thats true as well

[grizzled spindle]

The point is not about me wanting to win. I have had 1 win only since my 3rd match, and have since been matched with players with 6 or more wins several times. Matchmaking isn't pairing me with only low rank players, it's only doing that half the time.

[thick charm]

suppose you get into the top 16. What's the plan then.

You're gonna have to fight the top 16 players, not low rank players

[twilit steppe]

Yeah which is why I'm still around *26th with 10 losses

[thick charm]

so you're screwed either way

[arctic valve]

hey, they can blunder their games, we dont know

[twilit steppe]

I doubt they will blunder a lot like me though haha..

[arctic valve]

we are the blunder brothers, yeah

[grizzled spindle]

I don't intend to win the whole thing. That's a pipe dream. Making the top 16 is my goal, so that I get a prize no matter what.

[pine heron]

Do you feel that may be some sort of hacking is being used by your opponents

[eternal musk]

well you might have been better off if you had played the first few days. many people apparently only entered to get 3 wins and secure their cardbacks. Most of the remaining players are at least experienced.

[jaunty python]

TCG has gotten a lot sweatier and diversified since the days of MMEC so nothing is a given

[muted cairn]

well, if the bot match you only with low ranked players, you will have to wait 10 years to find any game at all. im pretty sure the bot can only do that if mm is very crowded

[thick charm]

mate you get a prize if you win 3 matches. Actually every match gives you a bit of primogems

my pipe dream was winning at least 3 and I managed to do that

[pine heron]

There are hundreds of people trying this who have been playing the game from when tcg came, and you want it just after practicing some games against chicken

[grizzled spindle]

And now, I am unlikely to even get that.

[jaunty python]

you'll match with some lower skilled players at some point

[thick charm]

yes that's how matchmaking works

you only really lose if you give up completely

[long ledge]

Harsh

[jaunty python]

But I do understand if the time commitment was more than you expected for the card back

"I just need to play 4 games and I'm out"

yea that didn't happen

[arctic valve]

just so you know, on my first cat tails i also went with my own cooked deck thinking it was really good, just to be trashed so hard that i needed to swap decks to get some wins

[thick charm]

Mind you, is not like I, the 40% scrub, haven't fought leaderboard players even after getting my w/l rate established as being bad. You will get matched against strong players anyway so I can understand if that annoys you

[eternal musk]

i have 28 games to play today due to internet issues this week

[arctic valve]

and i also got paired against top players

[eternal musk]

[pine heron]

Good luck

[arctic valve]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

[twilit steppe]

Me too.. I'm sure 7 of my losses are from leaderboard players

[thick charm]

speaking of I just need one more game to make up for yesterday's quota so I should get on to that. Fight me later if you want maq

[grizzled spindle]

I have only gotten into THIS TCG competitively recently. I have massive experience with the meta in Yu-Gi-Oh! and Pokemon, more Yu-Gi-Oh!, though. I am a very quick learner and adapt very quickly, so I thought I had a shot, although not great, at placing top 16 in this tournament. I thought matchmaking was ALWAYS supposed to match you with a similarly ranked player. That was the main reason why I thought I could rank top 16 in the first place. Now I'm finding that it isn't really based on anything even SLIGHTLY resembling ELO or other ranking/matchmaking systems. This is outrageous. At least advertise explicitly that it isn't actualluy like that all the time. I genuinely thought I had a chance.

[eternal musk]

Ty.

[jaunty python]

[wary heron]

And that's

A skill issue

[jaunty python]

Treat it as a learning experience

as niche as this TCG is there are still way more than 16 highly skilled players

[wary heron]

🙂

[grizzled spindle]

Not all of them will join every single tournament, though, so it still evens out.

[wary heron]

And there are people who just have less time to play and still have lots of quota left

Losing streaks are also a thing

[jaunty python]

Also keep in mind for the top players they do have way more match experience

[pine heron]

Some top tier players fail to qualify here who have won other tourneys and stuff and have been playing the game since launch, so loosing as you are new is not very bad

[eternal musk]

you will certainly realize sooner or later that this game differs a lot from the tcgs you are used to

[pine heron]

But you can't abuse the system for not being able to win games

[thick charm]

well I'm 63rd apparently and I still think I suck so yea, I knew I didn't have a shot at top 16

[muted cairn]

im pretty sure last season, at least 30+ great player failed to make .. and if MM always only make you match with bad players, it is unfair to the actual top 16 players

[wary heron]

35 games isnt enough to decide someones skill

[thick charm]

and yea again, once you make it to the top 16th you're just gonna get nuked out of the bracket

[wary heron]

gladge

[pine heron]

[wary heron]

Too rng dependent

[pine heron]

Well yeah it also depends a lot on other things

[arctic valve]

I'm very experiences on MTG standart meta as well, but that doesnt help for this game, because its very different

[wary heron]

You need like a series of a thousand plus games to truly determine skill

[pine heron]

Rng, matchups

[jaunty python]

Genshin TCG still feels more approachable for me bc Yugioh has too many cards for me to remember

[arctic valve]

try mtg

[muted cairn]

talking about 35 matches cant determine skill

[eternal musk]

In past seasons you could theoretically reach the top simply by getting lucky enough to play against 35 rookie players. The current mm is not perfect but it is certainly fairer for those who are taking CTG seriously.
unfortunately it will be much more difficult for a beginner.

[muted cairn]

asia winner from last season was almost not in the knockout

he is amazing player btw

RNG didnt favor his prelims

[long ledge]

Who

[muted cairn]

hayama

[long ledge]

Oh

I beat him

[grizzled spindle]

Like I said, I could care less if I win here. What matters is that the matchmaking method is made clear somewhere, as in, be more transparent regarding how your matchmaking works. The description on the event postings and server channels do not give enough info as they are. I assumed the method worked similarly to ELO, and that similar ranks to you are always guaranteed. The way it really is is just disappointing.

[arctic valve]

wasnt sherry the winner from past cats tails AS?

[polar barn]

Eu

[muted cairn]

sherry EU no?

[polar barn]

From EU

[pine heron]

He was in eu

[jaunty python]

I'm sure theres other factors, like how many players are in queue

[arctic valve]

oh

[jaunty python]

if you and a leaderboard player are the only ones there then ELO doesn't matter

[pine heron]

There aren't always players queueing with same score when you are in queue, so it matches with someone who is also in queue

[muted cairn]

👆

[polar barn]

Priority is getting Queued

[prime scroll]

top16 is an achievement that's hard to reach for anybody
and you do need luck to get there too
change your perspective and respect hundreds of others who're in the same boat as you and you'll meet your success
any top16 player from any server would smoke your deck, dead to the rights
so go out and climb your ladder from bottom to the top, like every other person did
and take your losses as something to learn not to mourn

[arctic valve]

Yeah, youre assuming the matchmaking is done with the full list of participants, when is done with the players that queue searching for match

[pine heron]

[grizzled spindle]

You could restart the tourney and disqualify me from entering it for that time, and I would be happy as long as the matchmaking method were made clear in return. Heck, you could not restart the tourney, and just disqualify me right now, and I would be happy as long as it is made clear. I feel I'm not the only one who assumed the way I did. I know my last opponent was one of them, at least.

This will prevent future disappointment.

[eternal musk]

elo is not a good method for defining mm with so few matches. you need at least 20 on most online platforms for calibration so i don't think that would be the method used here.
I say this as a chess player though.

[prime scroll]

well dude I'm sorry for being straightforward but I don't think anyone cares about this disqualification or disappointment so much that you can freely continue your journey here

we actually have "elo" in a few servers designed for competition

but lots of them are dying

sadge

[arctic valve]

I will be a bit blunt, youre blaming the fact that your deck is not as good as you think and that youre not as good to play this game, on to the matchmaking

[jaunty python]

I am curious tho if the bot will 'save' ELO from previous taverns

[prime scroll]

can I actually say that or does it count as advertisement though

[muted cairn]

that would be very unfair to the top players tho

[arctic valve]

i dont think so

[prime scroll]

depends on how one implements it
if end results are based on said ELO it's fine

[pearl fern]

If you have a formal conplaint about matchmaking you can forward it to the modmail bot

You're not gonna reach anyone relevant here

[arctic valve]

youre saying we all are irrelevant

[muted cairn]

well blep is right.. we are just normal citizen here

[pearl fern]

Though honestly in most systems your matchmaking rank and how it works is hidden anyway

So i doubt you'd get much traction

[pine heron]

Blep

[pearl fern]

[polar barn]

*pleb

[grizzled spindle]

Actually, as I said multiple times, I don't care if I win nothing at this point. This has nothing to do with my losses. It never has. I made this chat because I thought matchmaking was bugged because I made an apparently valid and common assumption that your matchmaking was based on ELO in some way. I am being told that this is not actually the case most of the time, and I am complaining about misleading advertising. That's what this is now about. Nothing else.

[prime scroll]

yeah problem is, the issue presented cannot be "fixed" simply because..there's too little info

[arctic valve]

i really dont get it, why do you complaint about the bot setting you against leaderboard players as if you were the only one

[grizzled spindle]

I actually think I am far from the only one, but am one of very few that caught on.

[polar barn]

U can contact modmail

U won't get anywhere

Here

[grizzled spindle]

Is there a way this chat can be forwarded to modmail, or at least kept here so I can invite a mod?

[prime scroll]

I think I remember an instance where players with 100 score difference played against each other
it is what it is

#📨contact-qixing and #1096770459892191284 are your best friends

[grizzled spindle]

Oh, wait, what? I thought this was the Modmail chat... This is the first place I initially posted my issue, and is public. I thought all of you guys were staff this whole time. Honestly I should've checked...

[thick charm]

lol

[polar barn]

[arctic valve]

[prime scroll]

[muted cairn]

[polar barn]

https://tenor.com/view/wasted-gta-gif-21874257

[jaunty python]

[thick charm]

also not to be toxic with the implication but https://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub
this (whole book) is a good read for anyone who wants to compete in any game or sport

[arctic valve]

well, this was a productive chat, time to sleep

[pine heron]

[prime scroll]

nighty night

[arctic valve]

take care guys, see you tonight

[polar barn]

Gn

[thick charm]

I'm done with my quota so I'll see you guys in uh 8 hours? Sleep well Aiden ♥

[violet garnet]

sheesh i manages to get 12 quota in just this morning

[crystal tapir]

How can i say this… it might be a skill issue 😓

Tho i will agree that matching being by skill and lb not ordered by skill and instead by wins is a bit weirdge

[ancient spindle]

[violet garnet]

tbh, its a slight improvemnt from last time. imo. but its not perfect.

how is your record so far?

oh, jk, the leaderboard doesnt alwasy show user names

but nice on the 15th

[raven wyvern]

you can use a discord id lookup to reveal the username

[rich wasp]

didn’t wake up in time for queue again

3 sessions to play out 25 games i suppose

[solar aspen]

It depends on the card and if it really fits the deck structure. For example, I have double skill talents for my characters because the cost is the same and getting them adds lot of quality of life, so getting them asap helps a lot. But I also have a fried egg, so if one ever dies, I can use the talent again or worse case scenario using it as tunning material since I'm playing with three different elements. I would take in consideration all the possibilities of that dupe.

[slate roost]

it doesn't really matter in the long run

if you want to qualify in top 16 you will need to fight good players eventually

apparently they fixed their matchmaking system for this ctg, but i can't deny that there is some element of luck still

but still, if you can't win against top players consistently, then it's very difficult to make it to top 16 even with the best matchmaking system in the world

[solar aspen]

Totally agree

[solar aspen]

Some can be refined after learning what it's lacking or finding new possibilities, tho :3

[slate roost]

most toxic staff ever

[slate roost]

yup

that's the whole point of testing out decks

[solar aspen]

You should open a ticket for your concern, here all of us can't change a thing.

[solar aspen]

I heard a theory about matchmaking being random at the beginning and then using your scores. However, I think it's really fun to play against top players too

[solar aspen]

I wouldn't talk about skill, but I played today against someone who just got with me their third victory, so I assume there's a lot of players who registered and have been stacking their matches :3

[muted cairn]

some ppl just dont have time to play earlier in the week

[cursive gazelle]

forced to stack because bot keeps breaking

[muted cairn]

that too..

[rich wasp]

yeah

what a pain wish they could extend it

[muted cairn]

i personally only register so i can practice a few games against serious players when i have time to queue. playing here and in random mm has different weight cuz ppl usually play best decks and their best ability

i dont have time to play half of the quota

[solar aspen]

Their cards effects and descriptions are fixed since the very beginning, tho. It might have ended in banned cards all over the place, but I really hope they stop changing cards effects and descriptions here T.T

[cursive gazelle]

un-nerfed kenki and yoi

[slow mason]

I usually play with the hope of getting to top 16 but by now I can only play to practice

[muted cairn]

i only managed to queue less than 5 games this week

but it is nice flexible time to find good opponent to play if you just queue when you have time.. most likely you get someone at least half decent

[slow mason]

I definitely got to play some good players this time

Kirano, Kevin and ark got some free points out of me

[grizzled spindle]

How's this deck? I think it'll stack up well.

The character ordering matters for 'When the Crane Returned'.

[muted cairn]

perhaps i should offer them free points too hmm

[slow mason]

My score is probably too low to find good players now though

[violet garnet]

i managed 13 in one. so you might be able to get them in

[rich wasp]

i can probably get them in but

i have an AS account too

and the queue times overlap

so i guess i’m giving up on the as acc

[rich wasp]

what’s the idea behind the deck
in general freeze decks just suck if you don’t use XQ bc it’s easy to play around

[cursive gazelle]

hydro summon doesnt work well for freeze

swirl freeze is also kinda hard to play

[rich wasp]

swirl freeze has been on the edge of viability for awhile but it always uses mona instead i think

take the 2nemo core and try to add freeze

[cursive gazelle]

its viable but i dont think its a good deck for a new player

[spiral schooner]

I use swirl freeze and Mona!😭😭😭

[crystal tapir]

Si you better not snipe me because i play ls

😈

[twilit steppe]

I just played against that deck and I honestly don't know what to do against the full health & fully equipped Ningguang ngl I think I made many misplays during that match

[crystal tapir]

Just kill ning easy game

[twilit steppe]

I wish it's that easy for me

[steep pendant]

Pov of Lyney main

Good morning everyone

[pearl glade]

hm

gm

[steep pendant]

How is doing?

[pearl glade]

woke up late

feeling hungy

prob need to cook up brekkie in a bit

[steep pendant]

I had toast

[slate roost]

depends on what deck you're playing

ls kind of does nothing for the first few rounds

even more than stall decks usually do

so if you can just use that 0 pressure to rush them down, ls can feel horribly weak

[twilit steppe]

...Qiqi Ei Chongyun yeah I think I definitely misplayed a lot, thanks for the tips though

[steep pendant]

For me, sometimes you can tell when someone's building to stall. So kill the one that seems the stalliest asap

When you see totm, kill who they equipped it to immediately

For example, barbara may seem like best choice to kill in BIN. But from my experience, Itto would be more useful

If you kill the main damage and leave healer, they can't do anything

They can desperately heal but it's far easier to finish off

[twilit steppe]

You are right, it's just.. the player keep protecting the Ningguang LOL but also looking back I made grave misplays

[crystal tapir]

Eww chongyun…

All my homies hate chongyun

😠

[pearl glade]

Big chongus

[violet garnet]

why am i killing it in master duel rn. kek

its like my tcg aptitude is coming back

[long ledge]

[steep pendant]

Anyone have some quick electro charge tips?

[crystal tapir]

Proc it a lot of times then the opponent will be sad

Hit them will the swirl and they cry extra hard

[steep pendant]

Proc? But swirl is mean ye

But I'm doing double electro + Kokomi

Inazuma res and ele dice + energy adding is good too

(I'm new to tournament so I don't know many terms)

[crystal tapir]

Like uh hit them with the electro charged lots of times

Usually with summons because they are guaranteed to hit

Spam it

[steep pendant]

Ohh, got it. Alright, I'll be more agressive

It is true that there isn't really a good way to "play safe". Damage really is what matters

But there is definitely stall

[crystal tapir]

Playing safe can also be attacking and killing off their threat

[steep pendant]

In my case I call that aggressive, but ye

I get a bit worried and slap on a bunch of healing but then I thought.. "You only need to heal if you're not being careful or doing enough damage".

So being assertive from the beginning is key

[crystal tapir]

Healing is goodge

Very dice efficient

Pizza 1 heal 3
Hydro res 1 heal 4
Barbara 3 heal 6

[steep pendant]

I like running healing building plus tubby, very annoying

One more question, how to get first round good damage?

Some decks are fast setup so it would be helpful to start punishing them first

[cursive gazelle]

it just depends on what characters/cards you play. some decks are aggro by nature, aka monklee

[steep pendant]

Elecharge isn't the fastest but I'm happy with it and use it well. Just needs more polishing, all of my losses were extremely close

[cursive gazelle]

you just gotta survive/sac while setting up your own thing

[steep pendant]

Right. I get really far, but some shields throw me off or damage is barely missing the mark

[cursive gazelle]

ya keep in mind that a lot of electro/hydro characters can't do a 3 dmg skill

[steep pendant]

I have two catalysts, but main dmg is burst and summon

Have kujou and adeptus, but the right time is hard to find to use other's bursts

[cursive gazelle]

summons do great chip dmg but you need high single target dmg against shielded characters

[steep pendant]

I have katherine, but she never comes in time. And I can't risk sending out burst ready just to die

[cursive gazelle]

kath

[steep pendant]

I switch a lot to utilize reactions, so she's very useful. But now that I think about it, maybe I should add leave it to me also

[cursive gazelle]

if you really like your fast swaps you can just try mona

[steep pendant]

I'm not very good at her

I've used her a long time and still don't use her well ;w;

One of the only ones I can't grasp

Plus I like kokomi's healing and summons. Good for team

[violet garnet]

so is monday morning the last window for meeting quota?

[rose depot]

yes

[violet garnet]

gotcha

ive done 18 so far

so i need to figure out when to do my last 17

[ancient spindle]

[violet garnet]

i did 13 this morning\

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-the-rock-gif-nijika-nijika-ijichi-gif-27263161

might see about doing 4 tonight, then 6 or so in the last 3 windows

will see how i play in the first few tonight

[thick charm]

I for one am ready to rumble, who wants ez wins in ladder

[steep pendant]

@pearl glade time to snipe

[mint juniper]

No way I'm catching up this time
I'll have to plan better for prelims next season :')
I need to study more haha

[ancient spindle]

im bored

entertain me guys

[slow mason]

I'm queuing if anyone wants free wins

[steep pendant]

Eh?? We're not a circus lmao

[thick charm]

could've fooled me with the convo a few hours earlier

[twilit steppe]

[slow mason]

already found bin, off to a good start

[ancient spindle]

bruh Kevinz sauce cant lose

[twilit steppe]

That deck you used against me before could defeat BIN I think probably

[mint juniper]

What does bin mean? I don't understand any of the lingo here ;;

[slow mason]

which one?

[steep pendant]

Barbara Itto Noelle

[slow mason]

the shenhe one?

[steep pendant]

It's a popular meta deck

[slow mason]

I cant keep up with the amount of decks I've tested

[twilit steppe]

That one you used to defeat my super cope deck

[steep pendant]

Been in que for a while, no match ;w;

[slow mason]

oh that one

we'll see how it goes

dice arent being favorable so I probably just lose

[mint juniper]

I doubt they'll extend cause of the bot breakdowns, right?

[mint juniper]

thx

[pearl glade]

Ok are you rdy?

[steep pendant]

In match hold up ><

[pearl glade]

Ok

[steep pendant]

You can do it tho, my matches are kinda slow

[pearl glade]

Bin?

[steep pendant]

I drag things out

Nope

My own glorious creation

I've never been meta

[pearl glade]

oooo

[pearl glade]

Same!

[steep pendant]

[twilit steppe]

2 Sara Mona what is this

[steep pendant]

Ready >:3

Lmk when

[pearl glade]

Ok rdy

[steep pendant]

Pressed

[pearl glade]

Pressed

[fathom fog]

[rich wasp]

ventiZ

[steep pendant]

Didn't match u

[pearl glade]

Same

Literally crying

[steep pendant]

It's ok, maybe next one

[slow mason]

the kevin propaganda actually worked

[steep pendant]

Eh?

[slow mason]

it acrtually did

[twilit steppe]

Omg yay

[slow mason]

ended up just freezing his itto until he lost

[crystal tapir]

Leoric playing qiqi diona?

[twilit steppe]

I wish it wasn't. I think I misplayed hard against the first Sara Mona though so that is completely my fault

[slow mason]

no

why dound I play qiqi

[crystal tapir]

Leoric playing mona diona?

[slow mason]

ok actually I have cooked something with diona qiqi but it's not ready yet

[slow mason]

also no

[crystal tapir]

Diona qiqi shenhe

[steep pendant]

Too much cryo

[rich wasp]

mono cryo with shenhe talent

[slow mason]

I just used the barbra summon to apply hydro on itto then e him into shatter

only itto was alive at that point

[steep pendant]

Hah gotta love freeze

[sullen walrus]

me waiting for 2 more loss, so I can stop quequeing

[steep pendant]

Ready Freddy?

@pearl glade

I'm que lmk when here ;w;

[pearl glade]

Yeah im rdy

Just came out

[steep pendant]

In match ;w;

[pearl glade]

Rippp

[steep pendant]

I matched tomo!!

[pearl glade]

Won the last hame thank

Who tomo

Your tomodchi?

[steep pendant]

Tomoki

Lmao

[pearl glade]

ooo

[steep pendant]

My "teacher". Helped me train

[pearl glade]

Naruhodo

[steep pendant]

Sad defeat...

Bad dice

[steep pendant]

Anyway, ready

[fathom fog]

@hybrid whale jeje

[pearl glade]

Ok im rdy

Pressed

[steep pendant]

Pressed

[pearl glade]

Ripppp

[steep pendant]

Didn't match w you again ;w;

[twilit steppe]

Lost 13 times.. at this point I am just competing for the lulz and for a little bit of primos

[steep pendant]

@pearl glade ready

[gaunt mica]

same tbh

[twilit steppe]

Aren't you on the leaderboard?🤓

[inner dagger]

I really feel that unu

[gaunt mica]

Uh, I am for now. But I'm at 9 losses and haven't had a 5-0 day yet

I can't imagine 9 gets me in let alone 10

[slow mason]

it could happen

[gaunt mica]

I'll likely drop off by the time the day is done

[slow mason]

since people's schedules have been screwed by the bot breaking

[twilit steppe]

I agree..🤓

[eternal musk]

i can still finish 34-1, but i don't have time for that

[steep pendant]

@pearl glade I'll wait this time, I think I only have one left

[eternal musk]

[pearl glade]

Just inv me to your world

[steep pendant]

Eh? The que won't work just cause we do that lol

[pearl glade]

Nah im saying I think queue doesn’t want to match us up

[steep pendant]

I'm try one more time ><

[pearl glade]

[pearl glade]

Ok

Imma press now

[steep pendant]

Pressed

[pearl glade]

Pressed

Dang the bot isnt matching us

I guess our mmr isnt within range

[steep pendant]

;w;

My opponent timed out

[fathom fog]

At least u don’t lost 4 in row Va mirror Jaja unlucky day and out 😭

[frigid sundial]

18 more to catch up

Hopefully bot wont broke tonight

[steep pendant]

I did awful today...

[cursive gazelle]

when you only have an hour to play everyday and you run into a stall

[crystal tapir]

when you only have an hour to play but the bot is down

[cursive gazelle]

that too

[pearl glade]

@steep pendant inv me

[steep pendant]

Oki

[pearl glade]

Oh hello

[steep pendant]

Lol

Editing, one sec

[cursive gazelle]

run into the same stall again

sadge

[steep pendant]

[pearl glade]

Me running into shenhe sc 3 times today

[cursive gazelle]

at least you die fast

[pearl glade]

Nah, i freeze them

[steep pendant]

Freeze go boom

[pearl glade]

So it takes them longer to finish me off

[steep pendant]

Oh

[pearl glade]

Take your time im bing chilling at mcd

[steep pendant]

starts right after

[pearl glade]

O

[steep pendant]

Lol some guy called beans trying to join

@hybrid whale if you have time tomorrow I'd like some feedback on my battles

Only if you don't mind and are free

[hybrid whale]

By feedback do you mean like watching your replays?

[steep pendant]

Mainly playing against and seeing how I can work on things

But you didn't sign up to be my teacher so it's purely if you're bored

[hybrid whale]

Prob tough considering how far behind I am on my matches

[steep pendant]

Np just do those

@pearl glade

Dang I suck today

[pearl glade]

gg

[steep pendant]

Ggs

I literally try to fix my deck everyday

Do I have to accept that this one just isn't good enough..?

[pearl glade]

If im being honest kinda

[steep pendant]

Sara seemed to be a good idea, but doesn't seem so

One last sad attempt to fix this

[pearl glade]

Cus kujou doesn’t seem to synergise since koko and yae dont really attack with E

[steep pendant]

She's burst support

[pearl glade]

Ah

[steep pendant]

But her summon doesn't stay long enough lmao

[pearl glade]

I mostly seem her used as E booster

[steep pendant]

Oh

I'll edit and change her out

Then I'd like if we could try one more

[pearl glade]

Ofc

[steep pendant]

Bye bye electro res ;w;

@pearl glade ready

[pearl glade]

Oki

[pearl glade]

Inv me pretty pls

Mobile is pain

;-;

[steep pendant]

How do you invite?? You just wait for others to come

Or am I missing a secret feature

[pearl glade]

You click the radio icon on top left side

And enter uid

[steep pendant]

That's go to lol

[steep pendant]

Ye that's join lol

[pearl glade]

o I usually use that

[steep pendant]

I didn't know what you meant by invite xD

[pearl glade]

Ah

Ok join my world

[steep pendant]

Says I cant

[pearl glade]

Try again

[steep pendant]

It declined lmao

There we go

I was wondering why I kept losing after I put Sara 💀

[solar aspen]

Just great

I got stuck in the queue because my oponent isn't confirming the results T.T

[steep pendant]

Oh noo

[solar aspen]

😦

Fml

[raven wyvern]

:deadge

will I ever make t16 in my life :deadge

[steep pendant]

@pearl glade dang, long match. This one's much better huh?

Ggs

[pearl glade]

Yesss much better

Yae ult with sdeptus temptations scarey

[steep pendant]

Yep

If it weren't for that darn shield would've killed everyone

[pearl glade]

I just run away

Skidabble

[steep pendant]

Never got my shield 💀

If I did, that would've been different I think

[pearl glade]

Yuh

[steep pendant]

puts more ways to pull cards

[pearl glade]

Im going to gym now

[steep pendant]

Oki

I'm do coms

[pearl glade]

I think im fone eith cards games for today

[steep pendant]

Me too

[pearl glade]

Vibes!

[steep pendant]

I still have to star rail grind

[pearl glade]

Omg

Two gacha games at once

[steep pendant]

Actually I have four

[pearl glade]

You’re crazy!

[steep pendant]

Thought that was obvious

[pearl glade]

[steep pendant]

Shoot I think I missed the live

Yep ;w;

[brisk wolf]

me with sekai genshin star rail arknights and multiple acouts

[solar aspen]

Matt_Mario, if you're here, sorry for keeping you waiting, I wasn't able to do a thing

[brisk wolf]

(i dont hav a problem)

[pearl glade]

[steep pendant]

Ah, there's my favorite furina simp

(Aka only one I know)

@brisk wolf oi

[rapid spruce]

Finally got 3 wins!

[lucid sable]

Ugh it’s not my day :(

0-4 so far today

This hurts

[rapid spruce]

Was using an experimental deck

So out of at least seven matches

[brisk wolf]

i was too busy getting my ass kicked int cg

[rapid spruce]

I only won 3

[brisk wolf]

i still have a lower winrate than you 💀

[rapid spruce]

Could be 8, 9, 10...

[steep pendant]

Oop... Well at least you can't tell me sKiLl iSsuE anymore :3

[brisk wolf]

show your ranking :3

[rapid spruce]

I don't remember how many I played on the days (including today) that I remembered to get on here to queue.

[steep pendant]

Heh, get enough rest this time? Back to being snarky like your old self again ^^

[brisk wolf]

im not seeing fairies dance in front of my eyes anymore so thats a good sign

[rapid spruce]

Lol

[steep pendant]

Lol

[misty harness]

I'm starting to think we have too many prelim matches

[steep pendant]

Was it Furina faires? Normally people see things they like when they're out of it

[misty harness]

trying to get them done in time is...

[steep pendant]

Hmm? Was it?

[brisk wolf]

no i was seeing sprites

[steep pendant]

Furina resembling sprites?

[brisk wolf]

no

[steep pendant]

Heh

[pearl glade]

I agree yeah

This is worse than when i competed in a starcraft tournament

[rapid spruce]

There's a game I used to play, left for a few years. When I returned, most of the whales left so I quit permanently this time.

Trying to get enough contribution to stay in a top 50 guild got too overwhelming back in the day when there were whales on that game.

[crystal tapir]

starcraft pro? 👀

[pearl glade]

Not even close

Although i did beat a gm a week sgo

Im a filthy diamond

[crystal tapir]

wah pro

i only know how to 4gate and dt drop people

[pearl glade]

Im a firm believer that mastery of 4gate can take you into gm

[crystal tapir]

ok yea but its lame

like it does take skill but playing the same way every game gets boring

[pearl glade]

You can mix it up

4gate isnt always pure stalker

[crystal tapir]

someone got to gm with just cannon rush

[pearl glade]

Im hoping the darkshrine guy is also a sc player

[crystal tapir]

@ancient spindle

[ancient spindle]

huh whats wrong ?

[crystal tapir]

glam wants to play sc with you

[ancient spindle]

bruh sure

but im tarverning rn

[pearl glade]

I knew darkshrine had to be sc2 reference

[ancient spindle]

oh you meant SC ?

i thought you meant SC deck

lmao

[pearl glade]

Yuh

[ancient spindle]

nah i quit a long time ago

[pearl glade]

The warcraft but in space game

[ancient spindle]

but still a fan

[pearl glade]

@crystal tapir

Feel the pain

[ancient spindle]

noice

[brisk wolf]

fighting the urge every 2 seconds to use this deck

[safe plaza]

lol

[misty harness]

man I'm so salty

I keep making silly mistakes because I'm trying to get my matches done in time 3 matches per day prelims for next season pls

[solar aspen]

Does it closes an hour early?

I thought I still had one hour left to play 🥲

[solemn thunder]

daylight saving perhaps?

though september is a little early for that

[solar aspen]

Haha

I think my country stopped doing that

Maybe that's the reason why I'm an hour behind

[solemn thunder]

lol

i've heard that my region is trying to have permanent daylight saving time

[rich wasp]

fdj

[solemn thunder]

suc

[rugged bluff]

[solar aspen]

When does the tournament ends? Tomorrow? 🤔 or how many duels can we play while it’s open?

[rich wasp]

should be 35 total

[rugged bluff]

aaa hopefully we get a makeup day at the end

i need to get my matches in

https://tenor.com/view/abyss-mage-abyssmage-genshin-gif-19896809

[wary heron]

me too

[solemn thunder]

so we have 2 time slots tomorrow

and 1 time slot monday morning

[solar aspen]

Thank you!

[long ledge]

How's your training arc coming along

[solar aspen]

Really fun, I played terribly today, tho 😦 haha. Lot of mistakes because I wasn't able to focus completely

I was around 90 before, haha

[long ledge]

Well, good luck on your remaining games

[solar aspen]

Thank you! What about you? How’s your tournament going so far? :3

[solar aspen]

Thanks for asking, btw! Good luck for you too :]

[long ledge]

Just wanted to see how you were doing. Also, can't play tavern this season

[arctic valve]

How is this possible, that a SUC member cant play

[long ledge]

Personal issues

I'd play if I could

[pearl glade]

[rugged bluff]

[fathom fog]

They change the window morning today? I can’t play since 4 hours ago cuz said to wait and now said window it’s close 😵

[cursive gazelle]

did u reach your quota already

[fathom fog]

Yep 30 :0 but today we can play 5 more no?

Or I missing something xd

[cursive gazelle]

so the daily reset happens after the morning window actually

means you can only play the next 5 games during tonight and tomorrow morning's window

[fathom fog]

Oki thanks

[solar aspen]

Thanks, how kind of you, hope you can play again soon!

[steep pendant]

No

[brisk wolf]

yes

[steep pendant]

No

Love how the first thing I do in the morning is argue with you 💀

I wonder if we can be nice for a whole day

The first person who is mean has to do a favor

@brisk wolf do you accept this daunting challenge?

[brisk wolf]

hold o n we'll discuss this later i need to make mao xue wang for lunch

[steep pendant]

Okay

[pearl glade]

yummy

[steep pendant]

Oh, do you know what that is?

[pearl glade]

yeah

[steep pendant]

Ooh

[steep pendant]

Whoah

[pearl glade]

strange that he is making for lunch

it takes alotta prep to be worth it

for lunch anyways

[steep pendant]

Huh

Maybe he's a chef??

Lol

[pearl glade]

maybe he has a ready made sauce packets

[steep pendant]

Probably

[pearl glade]

and coagulated blood cubes

just ready inside the fride

[steep pendant]

Who do you think would win the "don't be mean challenge?"

[pearl glade]

[steep pendant]

The what

[pearl glade]

you read correctly,

thats what the dish contains