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#[America Server] Discussions
let's just quit it
crystal tapir
you still have 20 matches?
deep plank
23
crystal tapir
are you going to play the remaining games
barren nacelle
19:6?
I'm at 9:6 rn 
I have to win without losing a single match if I want a shot at the collectible
rose depot
I am busy during the last time slot
you might be able to if you're fast.
run like raiden SC
benny ol
etc
deep plank
frigid sundial
I was able to do 14 game in 4hrs before so i think it is possible if you can get queues
one of the game was 45min so i think you should be able to do more
crystal tapir
If 1 guy queues stall youre cooked tho xD
frigid sundial
true lol
crystal tapir
Not sure if its possible because it takes time to queue and join world
Like at least 3-4 mins per match
frigid sundial
what a deck can posibble 4 hrs 14 game?
It was back in s1 and i used ganyu xq cyno
vivid monolith
So sad. Can’t use Liusu in NA tournaments. Have to do the PVE but he’s stuck in a long quest
jovial needle
Why is mm taking so long when everyone is on que
crystal tapir
did you not have liu at pc xD
vivid monolith
did you not have liu at pc xD
✅
arctic valve
no one queueing?
rose perch
i think they store up q like it doesnt pop unless 6 or 8 people are rdy and then they send it out at once
rose perch
5 raiden sc in a row too
rose perch
it is wierd there is so many of them they usually lose to klee mona. what happen
crystal tapir
mona klee is rng game
bad player on mona klee somehow gets a hs pyro res or smt they straight win the game
most the time you dont tho
so deck is kinda mid
slow mason
I didnt think a seven day tournament would be so stressful
rose perch
the people i beat didn't matter cuz their scores are so far away from me. But I lost all the important matches...
rose perch
ya it doesnt matter cuz your score is so far away
slow mason
I lost to pretty much any good player
rose perch
it doesn't change my ranking
Bad strat this season. I should just q at the last hour like everyone else
crystal tapir
yea... queueing fast gave me every single top player trying to play for tiebreak
the strat is proabably
play early if you need the tie break
if youre safe wait till everyone is done
cyan zinc
mona klee is rng game
i think monklee is the reason BIN is so good now
rich wasp
bin beats monklee
cyan zinc
bin does have many difficut matchups
hybrid whale
I hope they change the rules, I don’t want to be forced out of bed at 5 again ;-;
rich wasp
cyan zinc
but those are countered by monklee
rich wasp
triangle meta 
hybrid whale
Cube > Keqing?
rose perch
they need to change tiebreakers. it so dumb to force people to play this early. Pretty much an advantage only to asia players in na.
rich wasp
Cube > Keqing?
completely different decks
gaunt mica
I'm kind of surprised I only saw a single klee vape this entire time
rose perch
I'm kind of surprised I only saw a single klee vape this entire time
you played it all 35 games though
twilit steppe
I'm kind of surprised I only saw a single klee vape this entire time
Wow really? I met a lot of them, funnily they're not the one that gave me trouble, it's rather Shenhe SC & BIN 
gaunt mica
fair amount of BINS, aecs, necs, raiden sc, shenhe anemo
hybrid whale
and all have lose to me!!
That loss hurt, might be the deciding factor of whether I make it
cyan zinc
triangle meta <:Gladge:1133192655455649832>
meta is always triangluar since the begining of time
vivid monolith
The CN tournament today a player win the first two game and his last deck is Mona Klee. 2-2 tie now😨
crystal tapir
meta is always triangluar since the begining of time
what about mmec meta xD
rose perch
i think 80% of my games were some form of super conduct.
crystal tapir
mmec beats both ganyu and pyro keq
gaunt mica
you mean mmec, mmec and mmec
and the hope that the other decks could high roll and get a victory
vivid monolith
i think monklee is the reason BIN is so good now
✅
slow mason
ganyu could beat mmec but it wasnt exactly a triangle meta
rich wasp
i felt like pyro keq did fine into both if you ran agent and not klee
crystal tapir
youve been up the whole day
rich wasp
but nobody on CN side ran agent over klee
rose perch
guy is monitoring the chat to see when he can q
cyan zinc
but nobody on CN side ran agent over klee
agent too bad in mirror
rich wasp
yeah it’s worse in the mirror
crystal tapir
man said he was sleeping 4 hours ago
crystal tapir
can someone explain why bin beats agent ec btw
rich wasp
i really liked the agent version pre 3.7
cyan zinc
benny doesnt exist in mirror
rich wasp
yeah
cyan zinc
2 pyro res win
rich wasp
xq decks just don’t beat agent
cyan zinc
xq?
crystal tapir
water sword dude
cyan zinc
oh
rich wasp
wait was it ganyu fischl or ganyu xq? that you were talking about
rich wasp
ok yeah
arctic valve
That loss hurt, might be the deciding factor of whether I make it
sorry bro 😦
rich wasp
si why are you not asleep
what is sleep
arctic valve
funny thing, i never played against a mmec
rich wasp
mmec doesn’t exist rn
cyan zinc
agent ec
rich wasp
agent ec is the more popular control version and nahida ec is the more popular midrange option for oceanid fischl core
cyan zinc
more like midrange than control
rich wasp
and nahida ec also is getting replaced with nahida mona fischl which is aggro leaning
arctic valve
mmec doesn’t exist rn
i mean, when it was meta
cyan zinc
i mean, when it was meta
if you watch cn tournament in 3.5-3.6, 90% were mmec
arctic valve
ish
rich wasp
it runs a lot more stall tools than the average midrange deck
cyan zinc
the luckies mmec win
rich wasp
if you watch cn tournament in 3.5-3.6, 90% were mmec
and they nerfed xq instead deadge
arctic valve
well its something to be expected, if youre a pro wanting to win a torunament, you should use the best decks you can find
cyan zinc
it runs a lot more stall tools than the average midrange deck
still midrange, just to make up the lack of water res
vivid monolith
rich wasp
yeah i saw this
cyan zinc
yeah i saw this
what?
rich wasp
in my personal tier list i have ganyu moved down, the nec variants moved up a bit
this was also part of that video
brisk shadow
i'd take it with a grain of salt, especially given the current high rolly meta
rich wasp
which i disagree with, i think chong raiden shenhe does great into bin
brisk shadow
chong has kill threats on bin yeah, i'd say its an even MU
bin really needs the equips on itto
vivid monolith
The reason why ganyu is t1 is Amos ganyu counter BIN
cyan zinc
ok why is kokomi used in ning lf
it was mm before she got nerfed
vivid monolith
Because you need healing in that deck
brisk shadow
it was mm before she got nerfed
nah, i think mona was more common
rich wasp
no mona was bad
brisk shadow
fast swap crystallize
cyan zinc
definely not mona
rich wasp
mona was in atillas version
cyan zinc
holy
brisk shadow
wait
rich wasp
but didnt work out well
gaunt mica
same lol, no wonder I never liked life sentence
crystal tapir
this was also part of that video
ok can someone actually explain why bin is good against agent ec and shenhe sc
too small brain to understand
rich wasp
that deck is miserable to play against
rose depot
ok can someone actually explain why bin is good against agent ec and shenhe sc
t...
it isnt
crystal tapir
cn tourney data shows that it beats both quite convincingly
rose depot
shenhe SC stonks down
vivid monolith
Make sense
crystal tapir
no way you think ning is t1 when theres itto shenhe and nec crushing it
cyan zinc
that deck is miserable to play against
he does take stability into account
crystal tapir
just not consistant enough
south tiger
agent ec t1 madge
rich wasp
he does take stability into account
yeah i heard that part of the reason it was rated t2 was bc it was very hard to pilot
the ning deck
south tiger
I think it's consistent enough to be t0
rich wasp
i cant understant the videos myself deadge
cyan zinc
yeah i heard that part of the reason it was rated t2 was bc it was very hard to ...
sorry i dont mean to reply to that one
i am talking about the tier list
vivid monolith
BIN also depends on the player. Cuz it does not have formula at all.
brisk shadow
but piloted well it feels unstoppable imo
rich wasp
bin is a lot eas rto pilot than ning 2hydro
rich wasp
most itto decks feel relatively simple to pilot
cyan zinc
he didnt
rose depot
you evaluate it based on how well it can be played at top level
crystal tapir
you evaluate it based on how well it can be played at top level
but top level cant pilot it despairge
cyan zinc
its based on how many good/bad matchups and consistency
rose depot
rich wasp
oh
rich wasp
and the deck that absolutely destroys mona klee is ning
crystal tapir
no one plays mona klee in cn or at least not much
rose depot
rich wasp
well im evaluating this for our meta i guess?
cyan zinc
no one plays mona klee in cn or at least not much
cuz of bin and agent ec
rich wasp
yeah
crystal tapir
pyro keq literally has a higher usage
you dont need ning to specifically counter it
rich wasp
i think mona klee is not that good
crystal tapir
mona klee is rng game
rich wasp
id almsot rather play tartag agent klee right now
cyan zinc
not that good but it still defines the meta
rich wasp
yeah
cyan zinc
cant ignore monklee
rich wasp
itto nerf soon surely
crystal tapir
itto 4 cost burst
vivid monolith
and the deck that absolutely destroys mona klee is ning
✅pyro keqing also
Lol I shared this to Nyahida
arctic valve
and kazuha decks secretly stealing wins undercover...
gaunt mica
i saw this chart and liked it a lot
itto has t1 tempo?
rich wasp
itto has t1 tempo?
it means teh amount of tempo they have as the game goes on
so by round 6+, itto decks have infinite tempo
gaunt mica
yeah, was just wondering why itto spikes at t1
rose depot
he doesnt
cyan zinc
itto has t1 tempo?
he does
rose depot
he starts off very low
cyan zinc
with weapon
crystal tapir
also decks like mona klee or mnec does not dip that much
they still have decent pressure
rich wasp
oh yeah
vivid monolith
i saw this chart and liked it a lot
Credit to Tang
rich wasp
i honestly never thought the uh
the ayamiya vs itto matchup was that bad
bc itto can actually pressure yoi
but you defintely instantly lose if you dont kill the yoi
cyan zinc
itto with weapon can go 2+4+3+1
rich wasp
every time ive played itto against yoi ive won
eager mesa
this was also part of that video
I think ayamiya should be a bit lower
sure it clowns on BIN, but it kinda loses to most everything else
rich wasp
for the meta on the EN side i dont think the video is accurate
en side has relatively little agent EC and BIN tbh
and a lot lot lot of monklee
cyan zinc
monklee t0
no
eager mesa
and honestly I think nahida burning does the "beat AEC and BIN" game about as good without yknow just top righting vs monklee and similar FTK decks
south tiger
en side has relatively little agent EC and BIN tbh
I think we have a good amount of agent ec though 
mostly jp players
rich wasp
this was also part of that video
btw this isnt a tier list its just saying that the green teams, bin is good into, the red teams bin loses to, and the other ones are neutral into bin
cyan zinc
and honestly I think nahida burning does the "beat AEC and BIN" game about as go...
nahida in general is good against bin
eager mesa
bit worse at beating AEC
south tiger
oh and I saw this yesterday
vivid monolith
i use Mona klee 0-2 in CN tourney😠
south tiger
anyone can explain how zhongli beat bin 
crystal tapir
oh and I saw this yesterday
any lists for this?
eager mesa
anyone can explain how zhongli beat bin <:despairge:1120264921167446068>
cheese them with ihly meatball
thats your only hope
south tiger
rich wasp
4 equipment courtyard deck huh
south tiger
just play cyno version lol
rose depot
the more i play BIN, the more garbage courtyard seems lol
cyan zinc
4 equipment courtyard deck huh
highroll for the win
rose depot
but if you're a good player, then courtyard is good
vivid monolith
This graph has more
south tiger
4 equipment courtyard deck huh
isn't that most stall decks
rich wasp
This graph has more
i saw this and disagreed with too much
havent really loooked at it further
rose depot
isn't that most stall decks
4 equipment stall decks has huge consistency issues
crystal tapir
thanks!
south tiger
4 equipment stall decks has huge consistency issues
just don't keep it in mulligan then
rose depot
why does monklee lose to like everything
rose depot
just don't keep it in mulligan then
then what's the point then?
rich wasp
bc its overpopular
rose depot
if you're not going to use it most of the time lol
shouldn't just base things off highroll I'd imagine
rich wasp
but monklee beats all the decks that beat bin and agent ec
vivid monolith
It’s over popular so your opponent knows how to counter
south tiger
you're just aiming for highroll if you keep courtyard in mulli
south tiger
just mull it away and play normally
rich wasp
but monklee beats all the decks that beat bin and agent ec
unfortunately not many people are playing combo
rose depot
then why not just play wrath of the rock
you'd want something consistently good
rather than always aiming for high roll
rich wasp
shouldn't just base things off highroll I'd imagine
my opinion on courtyard has changed a lot but
my current stance is this
rose depot
it's amazing if you get it early
cyan zinc
you'd want something consistently good
agentec and bin is pretty consistent
rich wasp
the consistency you lose is worth the highroll bc highroll is how you beat the midrange and aggro lists with courtyard decks
i do like the 2 weapon 2 totm 1 gamblers ratio for bin
or 2 gamblers sometimes
rich wasp
makes sense
vivid monolith
oh and I saw this yesterday
All from the same video. Tang’s video is my bible
rose depot
bring back mmec meta
rich wasp
no
rich wasp
en meta is artifically faster than cn meta at all times
rich wasp
i see
rich wasp
yeah
thorny oyster
oh and I saw this yesterday
what channel is this
rich wasp
that honestly sounds like how en meta developed too
or i guess asia server meta
totm nerf please
itto nerf please
gaunt mica
totm probably needs a nerf
cyan zinc
how can totm even exist
rich wasp
4 cost idk
rich wasp
4 cost is reasonable i think
cyan zinc
or give a random dice
crystal tapir
or give a random dice
dont hate this one actually
but then it basically functions the same in itto decks while nerfing other decks
rose depot
that's fine?
south tiger
no it doesn't
crystal tapir
like it affects other decks way more than itto
south tiger
totm dice actually helps a lot
crystal tapir
even tho the main offender is itto with totm
south tiger
when you're running no fixers
crystal tapir
but you dont particularly want to nerf it too much outside of itto
the issue is itto + totm
thorny oyster
make ushi only +1 stack surely
eager mesa
ittto isnt nerf worth yet
but that's only because his teammates are cope
his teams are just itto + 22hp meatshield
crystal tapir
bbr nerf tho
rich wasp
i hope mihoyo nerfs the slow decks but
cyan zinc
they want the game to be faster
crystal tapir
honestly i pref a slower game
fast 2 round games are so rng
make fast decks slower and slow decks faster
cyan zinc
theyve always slowed down the game with nerfs
not with all the new cards
even slow deck gets faster
rose depot
have they ever buffed a char into relevancy
rose depot
o
rich wasp
kokomi became relevant the patch she was buffed but not bc of the buff
crystal tapir
kokomi got buffed?
crystal tapir
didnt play back then so dunno anything...
rich wasp
which did not do anything for her
but she got played in slower decks starting that patch i think?
ning decks
and some itto decks?
not sure
fiery vault
rich wasp
i mean the buff basically didnt do anything
fiery vault
Dont push me down guys
cyan zinc
1 heal is... good
dont rmb the last time i see kokomi ult
fiery vault
cyan zinc
i dont like to stall just to stall
crystal tapir
fake stall player
cyan zinc
i do need to kill them
rich wasp
better term for stall deck since itto release is just "long range deck"
crystal tapir
you kill them so they lose damage and stall for longer
catnod
what is a long range
ganyu?
cyan zinc
you kill them so they lose damage and stall for longer
hearthstone?
crystal tapir
hearthstone?
genshin
crystal tapir
genshin is the only tcg i play
rich wasp
hearthstone players gladge
rich wasp
got shut down in cn though
arctic valve
better term for stall deck since itto release is just "long range deck"
late game for magic the gathering
arctic valve
is incredibly dumb lol
for streaming, is understandable, for preliminaries is dumb
rose depot
it just further wastes time
hybrid whale
I mean, it’s prob to make confirming results easier so I don’t have a huge issue with it
hybrid whale
it just further wastes time
Not that much? If you decide you can’t win anymore just end your turn early and let them ko you
rose depot
it's okay
it isnt prince cup
only like $1k at most?
at worst a second welkins
unless Asia
fathom fog
Aaand there goes my hopes and dreams
😭😭
frigid sundial
arctic valve
Aaand there goes my hopes and dreams
sowi
gaunt mica
how do you even get that many off-element dice?
double vanarana plus vannessa or something?
cyan zinc
no idea
slow mason
What where you playing?
eager mesa
nahida burning
if I knew there would be so much shenhe SC I would have brought hash over send off in the flex slot
ancient spindle
ended 26-9
8 of my losses to shenhe SC
then whats the other 1
eager mesa
*send off over hash
eager mesa
then whats the other 1
NEC from SI
crystal tapir
Is it more common for people to only play 1 deck in all 35 games
slow mason
I would think so
crystal tapir
Do you guys get bored of the deck after like 5 wins
eager mesa
Is it more common for people to only play 1 deck in all 35 games
it's more common for people to be confident in their skills and matchup knowledge for only 1-2 decks
ancient spindle
crystal tapir
it's more common for people to be confident in their skills and matchup knowledg...
You have a point
slow mason
Do you guys get bored of the deck after like 5 wins
You think I can get 5 wins
crystal tapir
But playing multiple decks is a good learning opportunity
crystal tapir
You think I can get 5 wins
Bruh you lb player
slow mason
I usually go 4-1 or worst so I can't get tiered of winning
eager mesa
you go to random matchmaking or sparring for that
when there's not much on the line
slow mason
Is there a latin america tournament?
rich wasp
latin america prince cup qualifiers is through this season yes
crystal tapir
Tho i cant imagine wild card being that tough there
eager mesa
@stiff apex you gonna get in?
eager mesa
no
crystal tapir
Can people outside of latin america play in it?
No
ancient spindle
hmm when is Antarctica Prince cup
slow mason
Damn
crystal tapir
Just like the other pc
ancient spindle
crystal tapir
hmm when is Antarctica Prince cup
🤣
crystal tapir
Meanwhile cn:
slow mason
Are there any well known latin america players?
cyan zinc
But playing multiple decks is a good learning opportunity
No more learning
Study enough in school already
I'm braindead
crystal tapir
Issok im retiring tcg after tavern
wary heron
Wha
slow mason
What?
crystal tapir
And unretiring next tavern
slow mason
Ah ok
crystal tapir
Go cometa gl in pc!
slow mason
I'll be cheering for you then
fathom fog
Go cometa gl in pc!
Ty Ty I’ll try my best 🥰🥰
rose depot
Good luck!
fathom fog
Need to practice more I guess this patch play little to nothing 😭
crystal tapir
Btw is mexico both na and latin
sullen walrus
Yike, planning to play 2 game this morning. 2 loss thank to disconnection.
slow mason
Btw is mexico both na and latin
I think it's more latin but for prince cup I think it is both
sullen walrus
Ig I am not making to top 16
crystal tapir
I think it's more latin but for prince cup I think it is both
Ig mexico and wgc invited players are the only players that will get to play 2 majors
crystal tapir
is there a good ganyu freeze decklist
Ganyu xq ayaka is pree good i heard
faint arch
oh i mean like a full list
crystal tapir
Give me a sec ill log on comp
faint arch
interested to see which ramp. also have been thinking about totm xq lately, does it play totm?
vivid monolith
Issok im retiring tcg after tavern
？？？
crystal tapir
interested to see which ramp. also have been thinking about totm xq lately, does...
No it runs gamblers
faint arch
hmm.
crystal tapir
Only amos list works i think
Or any stallish decks will kill it
But with amos cryo res heavy strike
The brakepoints are insane
gaunt mica
it runs heavy strike too?
crystal tapir
@faint arch heres my list
sullen walrus
is there a good ganyu freeze decklist
I think It look something like this. Those are the cards that I have seen used when playing against some of the chinese Ganyu freeze
faint arch
ty both. hmmm.
faint arch
lol
crystal tapir
think drop a hs and ihly
gaunt mica
hm, no toss up needed anymore for ganyu?
rich wasp
no dice correctors deadge
sullen walrus
hm, no toss up needed anymore for ganyu?
Maybe drop amos for toss up?
sullen walrus
it is either drop amos or drop IHLY
crystal tapir
probably ihly
gaunt mica
also was wondering, why ayaka specifically? Is it just because of her cryo infusion
sullen walrus
also was wondering, why ayaka specifically? Is it just because of her cryo infus...
meat shield
crystal tapir
also was wondering, why ayaka specifically? Is it just because of her cryo infus...
yea, cryo dice is better on ganyu to ca so chong bad because eat too many cryo to apply aura
vivid monolith
cuz chongyun is in sc
crystal tapir
that too xD
slow heart
I queue into kirano’s last match and lost
vivid monolith
What does Kirano play
crystal tapir
bin and sc
rich wasp
mix of bin and shenhe sc
slow heart
He played all his match in na already
slow heart
Could have maybe won
crystal tapir
wym people like agent
slow heart
Need to look at replay
vivid monolith
Yay
rich wasp
less popular on NA for no reason
gaunt mica
i fought a decent amount of aec here
crystal tapir
na is not 80% sc
fathom fog
i fought a decent amount of aec here
Me too but beat it with NEC
rose perch
out of my 35 games i think 20 of them were raiden super conduct or some form of super conduct
gaunt mica
Me too but beat it with NEC <:QiqiLurk:906785116540522516>
I think I ended up close to 50/50 with klee vape
vivid monolith
well raiden super conduct beats it right?
Actually in reverse
Unless aec has really bad dice like me just now
And no Liben saving my world 😦
vivid monolith
✅
crystal tapir
its not even that tubby relient from what i see
vivid monolith
tubby is overly strong
rose perch
even when you draw tubby you also need to have 1 location to play with it. else you lose tempo too hard
crystal tapir
when playing against it i die
when playing it the deck turns into agent shield bot stall
slow heart
@meager solstice yeah you casually roll 6 Omni/geo on the last round so there is no way I could have won
cosmic lintel
That ranoki guy looks like very skilled 
crystal tapir
this noraki guy looks not bad either
crystal tapir
there’s also a nokira on asia server
its kira we found em
ocean gulch
That ranoki guy looks like very skilled <a:GanyuPopcorn_GM:990619808355729408>
Not as skilled as kinora
crystal tapir
slow heart
All I see on Asia is number so idk where nokira is on the leaderboard
ocean gulch
1
gaunt mica
1st place atm
ocean gulch
cosmic lintel
slow heart
Didn’t rank one on all three server?
twilit steppe
i think 0-1 or something in NA deadge
Omg only one loss?
rich wasp
surely one of me or gboo will boot kirano from rank 1 na
rich wasp
and totally not have both of us go 4-1 bc we beat each other
ocean gulch
Gotta give more room to the EU young talents
Asia invaders*
crystal tapir
the only ones who can stop ranoki is SI and gboo
ocean gulch
rich wasp
Gotta give more room to the EU young talents
my favorite eu player sherry
crystal tapir
@craggy cloak senpai you can do it!
slow heart
Where gboo I don’t see him in top 16
ocean gulch
What's gboo's deck
gaunt mica
he plays in the evening
slow heart
Did he not play his games yet
cosmic lintel
my favorite eu player sherry
Well the guy never queued against me
gaunt mica
think he's still at 1 loss though
rich wasp
hmmmge
craggy cloak
gaunt mica
oh wait, no. Gboo is currently 28-2
crystal tapir
Where gboo I don’t see him in top 16
hes like 28-2
rich wasp
hi gboo
crystal tapir
hi gboo
gaunt mica
hi gboo
ocean gulch
<:QiqiLurk:906785116540522516>
What hv u been running
crystal tapir
long time no play
rich wasp
one of us needs to go 5-0
craggy cloak
What hv u been running <:HeheSmile:961189501252804608>
it's a secret
ocean gulch
rich wasp
can’t let kirano get 1st
rich wasp
how does he know 
rose perch
please no you guys need to gate keep the bottom dont snipe each other
ocean gulch
Just play prelims with something that you'll never use in KO
U will never use bin ?!
cosmic lintel
I have the superior bin
ocean gulch
Chik lawa itto
rich wasp
LIC
ocean gulch
rich wasp
!!!
ocean gulch
Or is it something else
slow heart
The deck with 100% win rate against bin
rich wasp
based kirano using bin in the prelims and lic in kos
cosmic lintel
ocean gulch
Lic counter
cosmic lintel
No one expected the chicken inquisition
gaunt mica
I would appreciate if both si and gboo go 5-0 though
I think that helps me avoid kirano, kthx
gaunt mica
well, 2nd round. I'll drop to 7 at least
rich wasp
time to go 0-5
stiff apex
<@196295040459472896> you gonna get in?
Free money? 😄
rose perch
if you win the first place in tavern you get less than the 2nd place right? Cuz 2nd place doesnt pay tax where as first place does?
ancient spindle
crystal tapir
what do you guys think the cutoff will be?
ancient spindle
9 lost
slow mason
Hopefully 9
ancient spindle
For NA
fathom fog
if you win the first place in tavern you get less than the 2nd place right? Cuz ...
1st place pay tax? 
rose perch
ya you are over the 600 cut off
crystal tapir
oh ig 600 is not over 600
ocean gulch
its 9 even on eu and each match is tougher on avg
crystal tapir
they didnt ask me to fill tax form
ocean gulch
rose perch
they didnt ask me to fill tax form
did they send it straight to paypal or something? if so you pay the tax from paypal.
crystal tapir
did they send it straight to paypal or something? if so you pay the tax from pay...
yes but not deducted
rose perch
A new IRS rule will require anyone who earned over $600 on payment apps in 2023 to file a 1099-K form. maybe it isnt for your state
crystal tapir
im canada xD
ok paypal currency conversion is a scam
maybe thats where it eats money
vivid monolith
my favorite eu player sherry
I’ll tell him XD he would be happy
vivid monolith
what is lic
slow mason
Do I have to use more than one deck if I make it to the knockout phase?
crystal tapir
Do I have to use more than one deck if I make it to the knockout phase?
Yes
More specifically 3 decks
crystal tapir
what is lic
Only darkshrine knows
slow mason
I asume you can't use a deck once you win with it?
crystal tapir
I asume you can't use a deck once you win with it?
Not just win
You cant repeat deck
slow mason
Oh
elfin bay
I’ll tell him XD he would be happy
slow mason
So I can only ever use diona once
crystal tapir
Hi sherry thanks for teaching mnec
elfin bay
Hi sherry thanks for teaching mnec
You mean the video of me?
vivid monolith
Sherry sama🥰
elfin bay
Thank you for liking it. It's my pleasure, too！
elfin bay
Sherry sama🥰
Zhoujie sama
vivid monolith
？😠
elfin bay
等你美服登顶呢，别划水了。
vivid monolith
菜的要死 登不了一点了
eager mesa
cut tubby imo
you need to be able to pressure to beat things like chicken
who otherwise can solo your entire deck
cosmic lintel
Cut barbie and put in chicken
cyan zinc
I don't like tubby in bin
rose depot
Feels pretty good in the mirror and long drawn out games.
Though for faster games likely need more fast options
Ie courtyard and heavy strike
Maybe guoba?
vivid monolith
皮皮猪 puts tubby in bin➡️Im 皮皮猪big fan➡️I add tubby in bin
elfin bay
who is 皮皮猪？
vivid monolith
？
cyan zinc
Are you sherry?
vivid monolith
✅that eu god sherry sama desu
elfin bay
好好打牌！
cyan zinc
你看我名字不像吗
cyan zinc
差点就改成神里的狗了
vivid monolith
cant win sherry sama😢
cyan zinc
91he
vivid monolith
91shenhe✅
pearl fern
chat so alive. Also damn 2nemo nowhere near the tier lists 
figured as much though deck is not good into TOTM
vivid monolith
2nemo might be somewhere t2
elfin bay
2nemo是谁啊
vivid monolith
双风
elfin bay
0 0
fast frost
Is there a decklist for Monaklee?
vivid monolith
I used Monaklee 0-2 so I don’t think you want mine
rose depot
I went 1-0 with monklee
rose depot
Went like 18-7 with shenhe sc and like 6-2 with bin
Iirc
I feel bin I just play badly with
Will put back in courtyard for the high roll
hybrid whale
Uh, is this the China server? 汉字太多了。。
hybrid whale
Japanese
cyan zinc
Korean
cyan zinc
Yes
hybrid whale
Interesting, nice name btw
cyan zinc
Thank you
vivid monolith
I think bin is the hardest deck cuz you have to be very familiar with your opponent’s deck
gaunt mica
yeah, last slot
barren nacelle
when it said 4am july 31st, I thought it was 4pm 💀
ain't no way I can do 1 match per 10 minutes
slow mason
tell your opponent to play with a chess timer
barren nacelle
it's too much of a hassle to force on your opponent
(although I totally endorse it)
barren nacelle
I have 8 losses, so while I might be able to fill the quota, I'm not going to be top 16 :(
do you get anything for filling the quota?
tropic slate
don't think so
tropic slate
I have 8 losses, so while I might be able to fill the quota, I'm not going to be...
that said, 27-8 is likely to be top 16 if you win all your remaining matches
tropic slate
never feel bad for sticking with your boi
sticking to your principles gains you the moral high ground even if you don't win
barren nacelle
thanks
14 wins in a row is gonna be pretty interesting to try for :D
9 losses minimum to tie with a lotta people
has it ever happened where the last few people all end up tying?
slow mason
yes
barren nacelle
what happens
slow mason
whoever got the score first wins
barren nacelle
looks like I can't lose a single time
:monkas:
... and it's the end of the road. This month's tavern was pretty fun --
drowsy wharf
just to make sure you need a score of 30 plus points for card back ?
i have 37 so thats good?
ancient spindle
If you want welkin raffle then go for 2 more wins
strange peak
Oh today is the last day, right? How much time left?
ancient spindle
You have 2 hours
slow mason
for the card back
strange peak
You have 2 hours
Just came back from a 6 hour car trip... gathering strength for it
O wait... it says I'm not registered
ancient spindle
Hmm
strange peak
But I'm sure I did
ancient spindle
You havent played any games this week ? ?
thorny oyster
kirano top 3 in all region holy shit
ancient spindle
kirano top 3 in all region holy shit
It will be more awesome to beat him
strange peak
I think so
ancient spindle
Then did you press confirm ?
strange peak
Yeap, and it did say I was registered
strange peak
Was hoping for 3 just to win the back
strange peak
Nah it's ok... I'm drained today, and was working the whole week just coming home after midnight when queues were up in my timezone
It wasn't meant to be
stiff crypt
fair amount of BINS, aecs, necs, raiden sc, shenhe anemo
What's aec?
rich wasp
agent ec
stiff crypt
<:Its:1133416134293606440> <:Called:1133416153709035570> <:Barbie:11334161694544...
I see, I think I'll practice the deck
raven wyvern
I ec
stiff crypt
I see
Do people who use BIN deck use Barbara's burst?
From all BIN users I have faced so far, iirc none of them use Barbara's burst
ancient spindle
From all BIN users I have faced so far, iirc none of them use Barbara's burst
Yes
But you always want to nuke them as fast as possible
Thats why you rarely see them barb burst
cyan zinc
From all BIN users I have faced so far, iirc none of them use Barbara's burst
almost never
stiff crypt
I see
drowsy wharf
<:Its:1133416134293606440> <:Called:1133416153709035570> <:Barbie:11334161694544...
most annoying
LOL nub as i was, guy straight up had constant shields with the artifact and barbara heals
and itto just one shot each char of mine
fun learning experience
hybrid whale
Thank god I only faced BIN a couple times this tourney
Most of the teams I faced were either superconduct or vape
twilit steppe
Thank god I only faced BIN a couple times this tourney
I wish that were me haha 
sullen walrus
Next patch, I will make it to top 16. Have to try harder. smage.
hybrid whale
Yeah need to make sure I’m up to date on meta before next tourney starts, might’ve made it if I started with Raiden SC instead of using MonaKlee first few days
Need to improve before the next Prince Cup rolls around
stiff crypt
Yeah need to make sure I’m up to date on meta before next tourney starts, might’...
Me too
I have fallen so far this season
I didn't expect I went from top 8 on the last season to give up on just 2nd day of preliminary on this season (too many losses)
The meta this season is complicated (for me)
stiff crypt
Yeah need to make sure I’m up to date on meta before next tourney starts, might’...
Raiden SC is better than monaklee?
hybrid whale
Raiden SC is better than monaklee?
It’s more consisent for sure
stiff crypt
I see
hybrid whale
Though I do have to thank MonaKlee for letting me beat Nyahida and giving me some confidence that I can keep up with others
hybrid whale
Well, no but most people didn’t have send off in their deck
Things might change if Raiden SC becomes central to the meta tho
stiff crypt
hybrid whale
But as of now, BIN is strong and there’s nothing meaningful you can use send off against it
crystal tapir
Cough cough barb skill
hybrid whale
I guess? I thought it’s not as impactful as rhodeia summons or shenhe burst?
But I’m not a BIN expert so 
slow mason
please tell me no one is still playing their game
slow mason
how long have you been in queue?
lethal spruce
how long have you been in queue?
It just timed out, with no opponents found
I got in at the last minute
slow mason
I dont think I will be able to sleep until after an hour past queue time
hybrid whale
I dont think I will be able to sleep until after an hour past queue time
You should be fine right? It says results are updated every minute
slow mason
yes but if someone is already in a game and they win and that gets them to a score higher than mine then I'll be out of top 16
hybrid whale
How long can a game be?
slow mason
45 minutes with stall is possible
lethal spruce
I thought the threads are only kept open for 45 minutes
slow mason
I guess I only have to wait 25 more minutes
gaunt mica
No way there's a bin mirror going on right now that just happens to be 17th
slow mason
yeah I think I'm fine
gaunt mica
grats, diona qualifying top 16
slow mason
but it's been some really scarry 4 hours seeing me slowly get to the bottom of the leaderboard
slow mason
grats, diona qualifying top 16
thanks, though if I were just a bit better I could have won at least 4 of the games I lost
rugged sequoia
Devastated, I just realized I completely missed the tournament bc I've been sick and in no state to play a strategy game
slow mason
the lowest seed fights the highest seed right?
crystal tapir
Youre against si despairge
gaunt mica
it's okay, SI isn't ready for the diona tech
slow mason
this is fine
I knew there was a good possibility I would lose to the first person I fought because I have close to no experience with anything other than diona
so I'm glad I at least get to fight SI to end thios tournament
crystal tapir
Not too late to grind
crystal tapir
Leoric doesnt like diona stall despairge
slow mason
I will try my best to put up a good performance and hopefully beat him
yeah stall diona is not my thing
I can at least be happy that diona made it to top 16
even if I cant get money out of this I just want to get diona to do somewhat well on a competitive field
gaunt mica
we do have a week off
and you could also try bringing something else for the other weekly
just to practice it
if you don't mind breaking your diona streak
slow mason
thank god
slow mason
and you could also try bringing something else for the other weekly
I am so tempted to
polar barn
Daiona special
slow mason
but I'm too stubborn
I havent not used diona ever
and I havent missed a single weekly
it just feels wrong
gaunt mica
do klee vape with yanfei, that way at least you have your main in your deck
totally not breaking the streak
slow mason
I feel the need to 5-0 with diona before I can use other characters
gaunt mica
but nah, I get ya lol. I stuck with geo decks for a while until I eventually wanted to practice other stuff for things going on
had fun with geo raiden last patch at least
polar barn
I think what u need is to improve your skills and get lucky
5-0 with daiona is definitely possible
slow mason
yeah I'm sure it is
polar barn
U need to get out of comfort zone and even if it means to play stall
If u want 5-0 that is
polar barn
crystal tapir
Weeklies doesnt mean much
Roll 4 weak opponents someone drops out you dont fight a top player and you 5-0
If you get the 1-2 top players you rng the hell out of them and win
5-0 basically 2-0
polar barn
I kindda agree
slow mason
it should be simple but I've yet to achive it
crystal tapir
Also with no real prizes people dont actually care ti tryhard in the first place
polar barn
Just get lucky with Matchups
Cards and dice
polar barn
Also with no real prizes people dont actually care ti tryhard in the first place
Yeah
Cope wlekins
That's why Jp tournaments are the best
crystal tapir
5-0 basically 2-0
Genuine opinion and not even because of beef with gitcg
The weeklies and majors is just bad
slow mason
but 5-0ing a weekly is just the challenge I gave myself at the beginning of the tcg
slow mason
The weeklies and majors is just bad
I disagree at least for majors
crystal tapir
Like if you win majors youre a good player probably yes
But entry is easy and prize is non existant
No where near as prestigious as they are making it out to be
polar barn
$50 is decent
But in game rewards
@crystal tapir Invading GITCG to make a scene is more fun than actual ly playing weekly
slow mason
if you win you would probably be able to do pretty well on any other tournament, while prize may encourage people to try harder I dont think prize alone makes the game harder at least in the final rounds
polar barn