#[America Server] Discussions
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to a certain extent ofc
Still contemplating whether 2 Paimon or Ningguang is better for that tbh
For example, for NEC- redacted
What should I do if my opponent does not confirm the result and disappear
if the issue persists
depends on the team but you want a dice fixer and a ramp for most decks
I’ll try NEC if Keqing deck fails me, which I hope doesn’t happen…
so both
pyro keq is good 
Keqing deck is very flexible to play though it's prolly not the most beginer friendly
Thx bro
its not that kq is good, its just that pyro resonance is good. XD
its very stable though so it hasn't fallen out of favor

and bennett is broken
I started with beginner friendly Zhongli carry deck but I find it too luck-based
sure, its just not carried specifically by kq
yep
Yeah Bennett talent is ridiculous haha..
I need more flexibility
bennett nerf needs to happen, reduce healing by 1
Can we report result if the match started now and finished after 11pm
the thing about Geo carry decks is that even though they're slower you'll find that a lot of times ZL will be the only one standing
yes
if a match is started
Ok thx
so like even though it's defensive it does give me a bit of anxiety to solo lol, also slower decks means more space for misplays
I see
eh, slower decks are not as punished by mistakes as bad as fast decks
If played right Zhongli would have like dozen shields though thankfully haha
it's usually hard for the opponent to break the shields right
fast decks with limited ramp (think double anemo shenhe) are forced into situations vs something like pyro kq to not ramp
and if you miss step, you lose.
Yeah it's just funny how it translates in practice as everyone dead besides ZL, while in the main game no one takes damage due to ZL's shield
as a hardcore VV coper in the main game I'm glad its good in TCG at least
It only protects the person who activated the shield in co-op though, unless you have his constellations
Haha yeah it's kind of funny how different the main game vs TCG
Yeah.... 

yeah that is true, slower decks once set up have more breathing room, it's more about patience
Hehehehe cards go brrr
I did play a match that ended before the third round was over.
Depend on your deck
Otk decks usually prefer second
Is duck finally going to the dark side by abusing fischl oceanid
…fk
“nahida ec” was just a disguise all along?
and when you look at the big picture…
Yes, I meant the core team is still oceanid & fischl
I don't see it anywhere. But the "knockout stage" I assume is a single elimination bracket of the top 16? Or what?
There are other variants too like oceanid + fischl + any hydro/electro char
Yeah, but I think it's worth it to avoid scary Asia server

Yes. Typically mirror maiden. Sometimes raiden.
Oh. Sorry I thought it was worded as a question.
I hope i can wake up early enough to play tomoro
I got decks that are even more held together by scotch tape and post-it notes than last tournament 
Whats the weirdest deck any of youve seen
Functional strat or random cue?

Both ?

whatever the heck my classmate cooked up

guys a question, how is the score calculated?
10 points per win, 1 point per lose
thanks
it's~~ queueing~~ suffering time
gogogo!!
waiting for matches
they topdecked everything


Are you a top player?

hey duck, you were supposed to lose to me
what was the match up
Oh, you're the number one American player
Yknow what I'm here for the participation ribbon atp
I was using Jean, Mona, and Sucrose.

I was pretty lucky, admittedly.
I was trying out a new deck
Same 
I think yes?
gonna reread faq
Yes. It doesn't count either way.
thanks, because my opponent had something come up
It's like if they canceled when you guys matched in the queue
Parents, man.
I just noticed most of my opponents lately are the ones at the top. I probably should play in the next timeslot...

Or they're running away from you.

Think of it as a learning experience
Yeah
anyone dodge me?

🧐
Wasn't me


I should migrate to asia to train


im at 2 losses
nah
Impossible
Can't be more true
my opponents keep not responding
Have fun
🥲
And good luck
I'm now unironically considering this.. like maybe Ayu made some points haha 



😝


I can teach u how overload keqing goes
it goes bam bam bam
It used to be my favorite deck
But I'd be joining the dark side...
Rn, overload Keqing is getting the Freeze treatment

I seem to have used up all my luck
Lost twice in a row and both matches were so close
Frozen deck is a very hard counter of overload
Again I lost
skill issue
forgive me
Okay, at least I won 2 matches out of 5.
Oh, I won 5 times overall. That means I qualify for the welkin moon thing.
Good luck
Just send somebody and beat me for 2 other rounds
and I'll give up queueing
So long...
It's been 2 hours and only 4 matches have been taken
im not playing any more for today
if i play on 3 hours of sleep
its not gonna be good
already falling off leaderboard

Wow yeah it's better for you to rest.. 3 hours of sleep isn't good 
Omg why do you have 2 strikes
is that for testing or something if I may ask?
dammit pon control your kids

No way pon with strikes
Very bad pon
I somehow got 5-0 today I can't believe this omg what 

congrats!!
Wish I could get 5 wins straight
Thank you 
I believe someday you can do it
maybe even tomorrow
I managed to get back in the leaderboard but I'm sure I'll be thrown out as soon as everyone finishes their matches
is anyone still matching...? 
at this time probably not
right after i sent the msg i got a match!!!! 

dw im right below you
if you go out ill go out before you
I'm doing much worse than I thought. I thought arena of champions was sweaty enough to prove my deck's strength, guess not 
I hope just half of the people in arena could move to match
so I should not wait a couple minutes for one match

arena is just cope


@rose perch I'm so sorry about the double send off 
i just dont understand how you have the dice to do that. it is 2 of the same element
I had it planned out. I burned a card to get two electro and the other two were Omni and hydro
@rose perch
just wondering if the opponent concedes it doesnt affect the bot right?
Happened to me once and I didn't experience any anomalies. @rose perch
kk thanks.
Still in this!!
Is the queue slowing down or is it just me ;-;
Yesterday and today were kinda slow compared to Monday, so I'm assuming most people just played 5 matches for welkin on Monday and dropped
Hmm
In that case not sure why
But the level of competition is def higher and the wait is longer
that deck is super spicy, didnt we play in the weekly last week too?
I wouldn't remember
Ah but yeah the deck that I'm using now got me 4-1 for the first time in weekly so we might have fought
;-; ahhh didn't think raiden would die
yeah, we played round 4
Yah I usually get 3-2 4-1
what is the point of 4-1 though? you get nothing for it.
You're doing great. We all have our good or bad days. @lucid sable
Thanks
( -n-) I just was hoping I'd do better
Last time I got about 1:1 split on wins and losses
I wanted to try 2:1 at least
Tourney is far from over. You can still catch up since we have 4 days left. Who knows?
Maybe we shall see
If the top players keep the borderline at 1 loss per day there’s almost no way I’ll get in…😅
if nothing else its really good practice.
I know when i started going to tournaments, my results were never all that good. but after i got the hang of it. i was way more comfortable and could do well. so keep it up!
#1096770459892191284 maybe?
Did you sign up already?
I belive last Sunday was the last chance for the current cue?
Wait you playin
i signed up

and as expected ive been completely pushed off leaderboard for skipping 2 of my games yesterday
I ran 10 day 2
Indeed

im probably not gonna play as much tcg in the earlier hours
because if i exhaust myself beforehand
i wont play as well when it actually matters
I am down for either. Just need to work around what I can in my schedule.
But you're still doing great
i probably wont even play right today
I’m going to wait until later to play so I don’t end up playing against the top players again
smh
yeah I cant find anyone in que either
2-3 today and at least 2 of those losses are definitely skill issue, this is so embarrassing for me omg 
im playing like trash again, time to 
same I'm 10-10 now
@wary heron wanna play a practice match, I'm running a cryo swirl deck

This is random but I wonder if many players in Asia server are quitting.. my win rate is getting worse and worse, but my global rank keep getting higher 
I would assume so, I feel like a lot of people are gonna quit once they know they aren't making the leaderboard.
Ah yeah, the leaderboard is extremely tough there.. 
Same....
Morning all, how is everyone doing?
@wary heron Throwing hard is an overstatement, I still luv u 
about that




sure
yay
651704496
I used a quickswap and changing shifts when I couldve used Stiletto, what am I doing 
at least you can tune the stiletto and get another one 
you cant card of cringe forever, eventually it'll turn around ;-;
there is no eventually
im already on 6 losses

i swear if i keep getting card of cringed
im gonna bang my head on a wall
and keep it there
in other words my head is never seeing the light of day again
if youre on a loss streak, that'll have to break eventually
just make sure your wall is comfortable
if you're already at rock bottom, can't go any lower
preferably made of foam, though that is unrealistic for a wall
Hello everyone
Helloo
Ye
Not sure when I can cue next. If tonight or tomorrow. Glad to see I'm still up there.
I will also que at night 
i'll queue at night as well, need to rush 10 games
Another day another roll of the dice. May your toss ups be in your favor

I can and I will to our lose you


You should probably do at least one of those, if not for your health, then to help your gameplay ;-;
Time to get my matches in before this top player comes back from their meal
^
And sleep
Pspspspsps @brisk bloom you should listen to Pyrrah-

I don’t think Autocannibalism is a good idea-
i feel like im fucking high
I just got out of a nap, Ive slept >.>
Does not feel like it-
Go to bed, you can do the matches tomorrow or another day
contradictory
You aint winning any matches like this >.>
are you sure about that
If you don’t get more eep- I will buy you a Welkin
What
Yes
??
????
I’ll burn Fyodor at the stake
i already have too much money 
I have some money I was given that I was gonna use on a trip but didn’t use
So I’m staying f2p but I am threatening to treat my friends
Share

Someone come out of left field and go 20-0 rn.

I don't believe that is going to happen
20-0 fake
Asia has mostly 20-0 no?
asia is asia
tbf Im pretty sure they also have a lot more players, hence more newer players
Lost again
And I thought I was doing good in the beginning
I should actually think through my next move rather than going on instinct
i swear i play better at night, why am i winning 
I literally got the worst possible roll round 1... 😢
also you didnt topdeck bennett talent, only drew it toward the end
I had it
But I had to burn it
but why no use
For Klee skill
Well, lesson learned then
At least you're still in the leaderboard and on the 9th at that too 
I was so close to winning again!
noooo Ryssa, did you get knocked out? D:
that'll happen, most matches really end up coming down to the wire
0-2 today so far losing to 2 people in top 16 what is this lol
Yes and that's my own fault because I lost 7 times 
Yeah, I'm only playing against people in the top 16 too
I hope you go positive tomorrow at least :(
Thank you 
I think a lot of the top 16 players just get on towards the start of the round, so you have a higher chance of fighting them if you queue like in the first hour
I started in the later timeslot to prevent that but I guess I need to play during the last hour then.
maybe not the last, dont think you can get five matches done in that time ;-;
try the last two maybe?
Can somebody lend me their brain
Nooo. Don't push me off!
;-; need some assistance
what do you mean by "lending our brain?"
Just idk get a knife and pry your head open then ship me your brain via UPS?
This is true when I used to be in top 16 in the last tournament I often did this🙊
and why exactly should anyone do that?
Matched with layercake twice in a row, I wanna just stop playing lmao
theres a match limit of 2 games per player, so you cant go against them again
and thank god for that
Because I’m your friend and you don’t need a brain to Simp on Fyodor-
If I gave you my brain you would probably just make grave misplays at crucial moments 
i still have one more possible match against si and i'm really hoping to avoid that
Im keeping the brain
I have yet to play against him and I simply hope I dont have to
Dw dw it’s the thought that counts-

every time I play against him, I just lose terribly and I dont think my psyche could handle that rn ;-;
Oh yay 
losing terribly 
Yeah🙊
i havent matched with si once during the entire tournament so far... i think its a skill issue
Really sucks when that happens
be thankful lol
0-4, good bye my slim chance of top 16
Wait who is 17-0?
Me
I see a 6-14 in my future
Think I'm 7-12 right now.
I have no chance of entering the top 16 unless they all suddenly get a losing streak and lose all their next games
2 layercake in a row -> 2 superbird in a row was torture but finally won 1 today
Dropped all the way from 9-6 to 10-10 today
I don't even know what deck to use anymore
Cause the only win I got today was with Nahida EC which I played for the first time this tourney
My deck that was decently good is getting throttled so I gave up on it
nahida ec scares me
I'll probably start with it tomorrow, hopefully it gets me out of the hole
what are you running now?
I think that's a bit too jank to rely on ;-;
I think you have a better chance with your summon deck
I'm just in a slight kerfuffle-
that's not how you use that word >.>
still not a real word
Oh come on! My opponent had the exact cards they needed to win at the end!
they might have been holding to those for a while waiting for when they needed them
Topdecked ad temp + lotus?
Ad and that Itto card
My last character would have survived their skill or normal attack because they were protected by lotus but they had the exact cards they needed to overpower it.
just a part of the game, IHLY is probably the most impactful card in the game when played
I never have a chance to use the itto card but my opponents always do.
That's unfortunate. Sometimes your opponent gets everything in their favor and not you.
you may be doing something wrong then, do you only die to summons?
It's either that or I draw the Itto card only when I have one character left
Me when dunyarzad doesn't appear or appears late 
ideally you want some stronger draw power so the latter doesn't happen
though 2x Seelie and 2x Liben should be enough
or or or or tune all 4 of those so you can skill and NA when you dice of cringe r1...
and for the summons, yeah it's unfortunate, but if you really have no other chance of winning, sometimes it's best to let someone else tank the summons to sacrifice someone the next round to IHLY
aaaaaah
or you can just ramp with Liben and Seelie and an NA if your dice are that bad >.>
ORRRRRR don't
what's the point of putting Liben in if you won't use him ;-;
^That explains why I'm still at 33rd lol
Dead queue 

queing
Finally done 
so many matches with bricked hands and dice 
It sucks
man if I didnt skill issue every other game I could make it
just get matched with one of them and beat them for the rest of the week's matches and hope the rest all get matched with each other. it's that easy
sussy paimon's kinda slow tonight. maybe I should play the rest of my matches tomorrow. 
I mean tmr you'll have to play 5 more
Also pretty sure the morning queue will have SI
welp
i mean i lost to insane card lowroll, twice
also im always just on 2 hours of sleep
Last time cut off for na was 9L so u can still make it

sure
i just need 4-1 everyday right? 
probably not queueuing much today
completely didnt eep at all last night
paimon has been doing that a lot
should we just wait then?
idk
what you shouldn't do is leave lol.
if we havent finished our games for the day, will we lose the potential points?
paimon is also slow for me and the cocogoat bot isnt working either
No you could do the leftover match quota you haven't done for the other days 
it's only gonna be an issue if you were already in a match, I think.
like me
bot broken? 
yep
it's thinking for me too, but for hte last 15 mins..
ah thx
i did that it even that bot isnt working
Any mod/admin here?

one responded in the room im stuck in at least
i dont see anyone who has the genius invokator role online
there is @zenith wraith whos been talking to me
the role itself i think isnt pingable by peeps like us
sorry if it seems like im annoying you with pings
Ah it’s ok just want to know if someone can still qualify for the prince cup! I’m new to the tournaments and I want to know more info 😅
oh wait i see the people with the role now
sussy paimon has officially went offline 🫡 rest in peace soldier
or
it just came back online
now is not the time paimon
i was able to click it but now my opponent wont come online 
The one day i can make the evening session and i forgot it existed until right now lol,, oof haha
Wow you’re new to tourneys and currently 20-0!? I guess I’ll root for you then since I’m already at 10 losses lol
I’m also new to tourneys
At least for TCG
Jeje yes I’m begin play the tcg like a month ago! I love tcgs and want the competitive escene jeje
Nice let’s try our best 🥰
this is my first for genshin, tho i have experience in tourneys in MTG and YGO
even if im not that great lol
i had a bad streak today
and now ill need to get like 6/6 wins tomorrow
I’m use to play semi professional MTG 🙂 play pro tours and all that
who is this cometa perosn and why are they 20-0 this is terrifying
ooo nice


i haven't matched duck either
yeep
im glad tho
all the birds are scary

Game dice told me that I’m not allowed to win against Duck so I’m praying I don’t match again
I get an idea of constructing a really abstract quicken deck
anybody wanna test it out
cuz you play in the mornings, right?
sure
thx, wait a few moments plz

Not even on leaderboard
exactly
What happens at the end of this tournament? I don't see another prince cup for NA in the schedule.
@wary heron Wait so you made an NA account to avoid Asia? 🤔
nahh i already had NA acc from the start 
im making an EU one rn
I doubt there is another prince anytime soon

Same
tbh
me too 
my current deck seems to work much better than expected
Eu will be scary next time

Yes please can all the top/high level players go to EU so I have a chance
lmao
More asia peeps will come here dw
Same 

im not a "high level player"
honestly ive only been playing up to 10% of my full potential
always just on 2 hours of eep
I never said you were (even though I think you are)

lmfao

play me and find out
what is the point of them coming? Barrier of entry is so high. They need an ar 30 account and then farm all the npc and earn all the cards. Then they cant even join the prince cup with their points.
uhh money

i wouldnt come if i had to farm an entirely new account
but i already made acc in 2.8

I mean why even play in a region you can't even get to top 16
when you can switch to a much easier region

and even now im having trouble getting top 16 due to sleep deprivation

Yeah in two former tournaments I'm actually aiming for the $50, I skill issued though haha 
My main account is indeed NA but I can see why Asia server people want to compete in here
i dont really think there is an easier region. Not like asia players are suddenly better than Na players.
In knockouts each region has almost equal level but in preliminary asia is nightmare 
Asia knockout player= other regions semi finalist imo
I don't think anyone here is saying Asia players are better, but it's undeniable that Asia has more players and it made the leaderboard tough
how so? they have 2 times the players the chance of them meeting a random is much higher than here. Here we mostly facing each other where as there they might never face each other
Idk. I think just play your local region. Thats my personal perspective though.
There are easily 16+ quality players in every region. So you are not gaining any advantage.
I didn't knew they just had Prince Cup too haha, I'm so out of loop 

i believe in you ryssa
:)
16 players from 2000 is a lot harder than 16 people from 50
those are not the actual numbers
gonna get destroyed ;-;
Nah. You gonna slay
no one in na plays ning stall and i have no idea how to play against it
The freeze variant?
they have like 5 cn copes
or like they are from cn so like
prince cup only for region asia?
you need a lot of dmg, A LOT
@crystal tapir 
👋

couldnt fucking go to prince cup even if i wanted to
im just tired of life at this point
gg
Still 6 lose, and it's not Asia, anyway
So, there's still a chance
i will need to rush a lot of games today
Huh did people get banned? How did I move up in leaderboard when I didn’t play any games
n oidea

No like at 6am the leaderboard had me at 16, then at 7am I was 14. I think 2 people got removed or something
hooray :D
n< now to ge t3-2 today and I'll keep the ratio
waaaaaaaaaah I was doing an arena thing cuz they reset and I wanted to get more star thingies but I was queued and I left the match
;-; but my opponent then said they need 5 minutes
coulda finished the match in that time
why did you queue up while doing an arena game >.>
Cuz I didn't realize it was already 7
;-; and I can only squeeze one in before I go
all the games I've played so far today have been fucking nahida ec
wah
I havent queued up into it once
so not that many people must be playing it
you'll run into non-Nahida players soon enough
Yeah, it sucks
idk Im not good with statistics >.>
you do them
;-; me just praying my summons do the damage I want
not "Ok so I have an electro summon first then a pyro and thats 5 dmg and then the next opponent already has hydro and then my cryo summons freezes and pyro does +2"
nah
better than the first tavern tourney you did-
You can buff your game luck by streaming it

I thought I was doing so good in this match
Yeah 
I think I'm at 13 losses

I'm probably going to use my Nahida deck just so I have a chance of winning.
Dang it! If only I did one more dmg, I would've won my recent match!
i was doing good in the beginning of the tournament and now im just losing 😦
It happens. Just have in mind that it could be due to bad luck. Luck is part of every victory. @loud meteor
thanks 🥺
In fact the target of deck building is to reduce the luck factor to its minimum
Yup ^
pray
pray to whatever you believe in and what you dont and hope he gets bad dice every turn
surprising to see ting play in the morning though
Rip
is it over?
guess I should avoid queue now
I have dodged ting so far and I dont want to stop yet
I wouldn't even wish T*ng on even my worst enemies
Just pray you never have to face them

I like dueling ting but preferably not while I'm trying to reach top 16
Yeh that

The fear is real...
you could have beaged for mercy
Can someone share their dice luck today? I'm having none today 😦
Pretty please
You can have mine but you might not want it because it could be already negative
What dice luck
I basically rolled one of every element in my fist round against t*ng...
Imagine one day we get a char has a skill with one of each element dice though, then you will be amazing
Traveler card
that would be too much text
somehow I'm back on the leader board
I have 10 losses total so far omg what in the skill issue is this 
I have 8 so I'm not very far behind
T*ng bought me to 9 losses...
Same one of my loss is from Ting haha 
Omg I hope your losses keep that way and doesn't increases everyday like me 
What was ting's deck 
I won against Ting once
granted it was using MMEC 
but treat it as a learning experience and play your best!

Which tng is this
Oh
I forgot tong only on asia...
pre nerf or post nerf?
This was in the previous CTG so pre nerf
How's the queue right now? Just want to avoid another day of matching with the same person 2 times in a row
not sure, only just got on. did one match so far
I would like not to be matched up against the top 16
Me too 
You're the top 16 in question 
I still dont want to 
Thank god I don't have to be matched with layercake again cause I already got the 2 matches in 🙂
anyone still queing evening?
ladder brutal matchups tonight
anyone specificaly that you matched with?
I'm out of the leaderboard again
Me except I've been out since like few days ago 
I would like to be in the top 16 at least once.
I would have to win every match from now on and the top 52 players above me lose every match
I just need all the good players to forget to play the last day
surely this is a sound strategy
well, i just buried my chances to get to top 16
bad streak?
we will all forget to play the last day
yes please do
Luck can definitely be a part of it but that's why we have to aim to play optimally with what we are given
yes, but when your opponent gets every single card he need each turn, even if top deck, thats just way beyond playing optimal
Some games are impossible to win due to luck but we have to try our best because sometimes even when it seems impossible you can pull of a win
Some decks are much less rng reliant than others
i know, still its a bit frustrating, knowing that you have one of those decks, but you dont get the things, and your opponent does
Yeah been there
and i'm not even complaining about the dices yet 
Had games where I rolled a single good die for 2 rounds 
happened to me, more than twice on this last 5 games, is just sad
brrrrrrrrrrrt
@lucid sable I'm a card noob but just a tip, you should generally play your ramp cards at the end of your round so you don't restrict yourself
Yeah that was unfortunate
Reason why I haven't been playing that deck too much these past few days
















