[America Server] Discussions

[twilit steppe]

She won against me haha

[lethal spruce]

Yeh

I wanted to thank fr55

For beating me so many times

[mystic wharf]

I did mine a few hours ago and it hasn't updated yet, I just wanna make sure I'm not messing anything up

[lethal spruce]

With their aggravate deck

[twilit steppe]

Oh is that the chicken one... that one got 4-1 scores on a tournament I think🤓

[inner sail]

won't update until the end of the scheduled time

[lethal spruce]

The only reason I was able to play and win with that deck was cuz I watched and replicated what they did

[lethal spruce]

Yeh, that chicken deck

[inner sail]

I'm such a TCG noob that I don't even HAVE chicken

[lethal spruce]

I've literally never played it before, and was planning on playing it to get one loss out of the way, bc I predicted you were gonna use freeze.

[mystic wharf]

same XD

I just unlocked the challenge today after grinding for card coins

[lethal spruce]

So I was gonna intentionally use a crap deck so I wouldn't have to face freeze again

And I somehow won

[inner sail]

the funny part is you would have lost the round otherwise

[lethal spruce]

Yup.

[frozen pike]

what the

Pyr won?

[lethal spruce]

If I ran my main deck, I definitely would have lost

[twilit steppe]

Yeah your prediction is correct haha and yeah I used that Shenhe card on Xingqiu for some reason... sometimes I don't understand why I keep making these grave mistakes.......

[frozen pike]

i call hacks

[inner sail]

woah PonPon

I have infiltrated NA

[twilit steppe]

I misplayed so bad on two rounds lol esp. the first

[lethal spruce]

I did that too...in our last round, I wasted a perfectly good free geo die card for no reason

Too nervous

[lethal spruce]

Nop nop is a meanie

[inner sail]

in regions other than EU, #16 winning against #2 is more than plausible

it's just that EU has 2 extremely dominant players that would be competent in any other region, a bunch of decent players rounding off the top half, and some new players who squeaked their way in because almost no one else had positive score

with such a skill gap it's VERY unlikely for there to be an upset

[lethal spruce]

I only clung onto #16 of the leaderboard bc of sheer numbers

[raw root]

[lethal spruce]

Thank you for beating me so many times ily

[edgy orbit]

oo congrats to the people moving on i just checked the bracket now

[lethal spruce]

I forgot that was a thing

Okay so

The 8 people left play against each other, leaving 4, then 2, then we have our winner

Yeah I don't have a shot against SI

[edgy orbit]

i believe in u pyrrah

you can do it

[lethal spruce]

Thank you ven

You're one of the few who believe in me

No support man, especially not from NopNop

[faint flare]

oo chat alive

i woke up in the middle of night for no reason

[lethal spruce]

Hi potatoe

[faint flare]

haro pyrrah

[lethal spruce]

Go sleep

Get rest

[faint flare]

i did

[lethal spruce]

More sleep

[faint flare]

and i woke up

and now i dont feel sleepy

[lethal spruce]

Sleep is good for the brain

[faint flare]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-qiqi-genshin-qiqi-sad-gif-23361676

[lethal spruce]

Okay i sleep

[faint flare]

bold of you to assume i have one

[lethal spruce]

It's midnight, when means I should sleep now

[faint flare]

go bedge

nite

[edgy orbit]

what da hail ... i will support you on your journey to the top ??!

[onyx bison]

i believe u

[lethal spruce]

[faint flare]

in pyrrah we believe

[onyx bison]

pyrrah top 3 mark my words

[faint flare]

ngl me am contempt with top 8

if i win then noice, if i lose i still got some freedom sworn funds

[lethal spruce]

Me too tbh

I need money

Imma use to to buy ayato soap

[edgy orbit]

ayato soap???

[lethal spruce]

Yes, Ayato themed soap

[edgy orbit]

rethink your choices.

[lethal spruce]

For my friend's birthday in march

[edgy orbit]

i take it back.

[lethal spruce]

I'm doing this for the shits and giggles

It'll be hilarious

[edgy orbit]

[lethal spruce]

She simps for ayato, i might as well provide more ayato themed stuff

And now I can get funds to do so

[onyx bison]

i wonder if theres ayato perfume

[edgy orbit]

?// what would it smell like

???*

[onyx bison]

whatever the flower in the kamisato crest is

[lethal spruce]

Good idea, let me find some.

Or at least try to

[onyx bison]

i think there was an official zhongli perfume or i was dreaming

[lethal spruce]

Yup

As well as childe, diluc, and kaeya ones

[onyx bison]

i was not dreaming

wow women perfume when

[lethal spruce]

Exactly

[onyx bison]

kokomi would smell like cotton candy

[edgy orbit]

oh my god i thought those were the zhongli cndms for a second

[lethal spruce]

Give me ningguang perfume

[onyx bison]

THERES GANYU AND KEQING PERFUMES

[faint flare]

there are genshin perfumes? o_o

what the

til

[edgy orbit]

people will make genshin themed stuff out of anything

[lethal spruce]

Tru

[edgy orbit]

like theres probably genshin themed toilet paper somewhere

[onyx bison]

next genshin themed tv

[lethal spruce]

Wipe your butt with

[edgy orbit]

wipe ur butt with ayato

[faint flare]

o_o

[lethal spruce]

Just a while roll of toilet paper with on it

[twilit steppe]

Oh I want that haha He deserves (sorry Ajax fans)

[edgy orbit]

YOUR PROFILE PICTURE IS SO FUNNY IM SORRY

[twilit steppe]

Um thank you (?) I'm contemplating my skill issues right now because of the last match + the last GI TCG tournament (got 2-3)😭🙏

[edgy orbit]

noo i didnt mean it in a mean-spirited way im sorry </3 i just noticed it and thought it was a bit silly

you did really well and youll do even better next time!! i believe in you :D

[twilit steppe]

Oh I understand you mean it in funny way I'm sorry to make you misunderstand🙏🤓 and thank you so much for your kind words I genuinely appreciate it

[edgy orbit]

oh no ur good Its just my autism so I have a hard time reading tones

[mystic wharf]

I might actually try the gitcg tourney since playing here with yall was so fun, but it just seems so much more official

[edgy orbit]

no ur stuck with us cookie /j

[mystic wharf]

I would love to do another tourney here, the week long format is a little tiring tho XD

[faint flare]

i played a couple of tourneys in gitcg before. the thing is that the tourneys are mostly done within like 5hrs. and i dont have the brain capacity to play 5 games in a row ;-;

[twilit steppe]

You could try joining it next few weeks I think, it's easy to register + fun, good learning experience, and there's no hours long queue🙊I said few weeks because this current week is for top players only I think haha

[faint flare]

this one here is like the complete opposite

the prelims took a whole week, and the knockout rounds are one round each day

[bold blade]

there was also an announcement posted in the official genshin server about it as well

[mystic wharf]

I think it's nice for more casual/busy people, but I think a limit on daily matches would help with that too

[bold blade]

fsfs the burnout was real

[inner sail]

EU effectively had a match limit because after 20 it was borderline impossible to find anyone you hadn't already played 3 games with

[rich wasp]

seems like whoever wins the 1st round and 2nd round of 16 will match together in the quarters

and so forth for 3rd-4th, 5th-6th, 7th-8th

which means im going against duck or fat pigeon huh

[wary heron]

i swearrrrr

i forgot i had a school outing today

i missed the time period i arranged

[strange peak]

Ever tried Mona/Fischl/Ganyu? You lose Elec Res but get more def and mobility as well as taser and freeze options

[onyx bison]

I used to main this team!

[wary heron]

idk

i just play random teams

[strange peak]

https://tenor.com/view/party-animal-time-turn-up-dove-gif-5649207

[strange peak]

I played this deck a few times in prelims... it's fairly good if you can manage to get all reactions right to chip away the opponent's team and get Ganyu's Ult ou the fast as you can. People tend to focus on Ganyu since freeze is annoying... but the main point was always the Taser/SCond, and that's why I named my deck as "Look A Decoy!"

[onyx bison]

the team is rlly good bc of monas passive!!!

[strange peak]

The only downside is that HuTao cards can totally mess you if they shoo away Oz/Ganyu's Ult

Ah yes, the mobility and defense from Mona and Ganyu's lotus is superb

I should've used this team in the knockouts but I got cold feet

[onyx bison]

theres always next time!!!

[wary heron]

may the best birb win

[wary heron]

im starting to get worried

[wary heron]

...

[faint flare]

you and pigeon still haven’t played yet?

[summer thicket]

That gif is awesome

[echo oak]

who all are winning so far??

I cant tell cus the names are uh

not appearing

[clever rivet]

@onyx bison im sorry ive failed you

i got knocked out first round

o(-(

[twilit steppe]

StupidIdiot, Atilla the Pun, potatofarm777, Pyrrah, gbootoxide, fr55, mayoi I think

[lethal spruce]

I'm screwed

[safe plaza]

@neat parrot there's a feedback form for prelims in #tournament-updates

[faint flare]

yeah its kinda weird. i mostly see numbers rather than usernames

[mystic wharf]

whenever I look on my phone it's mostly numbers, but on computer it works fine most of the time

[wary heron]

what

...

[faint flare]

numbers

[wary heron]

numbers...

[faint flare]

like i only see my name but everyone else are numbers...

[wary heron]

;-;

im just gonna touch grass

but seriously what happened

[bold widget]

This used to be true for me, but I just looked on the computer today and it was numbers too

I'm out, lost to Atilla 2-1, but I'll take 8th place

[eager mesa]

[faint flare]

the brackets arent updated yet for some reason. i played my quarters like 5 hrs ago and won 2-1

idk if stupididiot vs fat pigeon and pyrrah vs gbootoxide are done yet

me am contempt with semifinalist

the rest shall depend on luck

[onyx bison]

You did great theres always next time

[eager mesa]

SI going on to semis
now to see whether gboot or pyrrha makes it

[lethal spruce]

We planned the matches for...

About 1 hour and 30 minutes from now.

I'm screwed.

I can barely keep my eyes open

But I hafta play

Ganyu SC won't fail me now

[safe plaza]

[faint flare]

what if you take a nap?

o im going against si o_o

[brisk bloom]

my condolences

[faint flare]

welp everyone in the semis/quarters are scary soooo

me ded either way XD

[brisk bloom]

yeah but SI in particular is like the final boss

[faint flare]

[lethal spruce]

I'm at work rn...

[lethal spruce]

I fear going up against SI...I'll just lose here

[faint flare]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/878118870202847309/1039724162098409502/frog_pat.gif

[lethal spruce]

[fast veldt]

avenge me

[neat parrot]

Done

[faint flare]

ill be joining you soon

[eager mesa]

so hows the gboot match going?

[lethal spruce]

I can't I lost

2-0

It was brutal

[eager mesa]

[lethal spruce]

For the first time since this event started, I can finally get a good night's sleep...

[faint flare]

Gud nite

[fast veldt]

[wary heron]

meanwhile me lost that first game while didnt even play anything:

[wary heron]

man

[eager mesa]

ok since I made it to the semis and I'm guaranteed a feature match
I'm cooking up something wild

[wary heron]

[marble osprey]

I agree with you

[lethal spruce]

All of that is true...

[strange peak]

I also chose to give +4 pts for winners and +1 for losers... ending up with negative points compared to some1 with 0 games played and 0 points is kinda silly

[twilit steppe]

These are good points especially the second paragraph🤓👍

[lethal spruce]

Why does everything have the red squiggles

[eager mesa]

tbf you only need a 25% WR to break even on points in the current setup

and having both results being + points makes it even more favored towards just spamming games

[strange peak]

because I'm using a different language and everything is english is kinda wrong for me

[strange peak]

But still... people who played more should have more points than people who barely played (or had 0 games)

[twilit steppe]

Oh that is surprising, I didn't knew that, I thought you need about 51% WR at minimum to get in top 16? Because once I counted it and the lowest participant has that WR
Idk though I fail at math haha🤓

[lethal spruce]

+3 for a win, +1 for a loss?

[lethal spruce]

You do?

I'm pretty sure my WR was the lowest

And I definitely loss more than half

I thinm

Lemme check

[strange peak]

nah... mine was the lowest of the leaderboard... 55 games and around 50 pts...

[lethal spruce]

So about 2 losses to every win

[twilit steppe]

Oh I meant the participant with the lowest WR has 51% WR at that time I was counting.. sorry for confusion🤓🙏

Also yeah the current system favoring people who play more matches is kind of weird (?) I say this as someone who played 93 matches🤓

[lethal spruce]

Yeh...

I was never worried about losing

Just about getting as many matches as possible

[eager mesa]

pyrrha had a 46% WR
tien was the next lowest at 47%

at least for america server

[lethal spruce]

Huh, not bad.

I'll take it

[strange peak]

I was having more fun testing experimental decks instead of trying to win... but not playing for 3 and a half days made me dive to the last 3 places

[eager mesa]

EU was worse
16th place was tyler at a whopping 28%

I didn't play at all in the last 3 days and was still 3rd

[strange peak]

some 1 with 2 games played that wasn't negative...

[twilit steppe]

Omg finally someone even worse than me🤓🤣😭☹️

[strange peak]

so, minimum matches to qualify would help us on queue

a lot of people just played like 1~2 times then quit

whoever scored from them in the 1st days benefits from that

[eager mesa]

easy way to do that
get more people involved like the asia server

[strange peak]

well... not something we could achieve, specially on EU

[eager mesa]

only EU really had the issue of people getting grandfathered in because they had a score that wasn't negative

[strange peak]

and somehow this tournament was badly disclosed... I only knew about it on the last day because of the ping

[eager mesa]

you had a 61% wr
that's pretty good tbh

yeah it was

[twilit steppe]

Oh really? Wow it isn't as bad as I thought then haha🤓👍 thanks for counting it I'm kind of bad at math

[eager mesa]

you can get losses by (xp*3-score)/4

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah I always used that because SI posted the formula in GI TCG I think... but I feel like I would miscount sometimes haha

[eager mesa]

and tbh I do kinda hate that a 25% WR will keep you even on score

would prefer +3/-2 or just +1/-1

+3/-2 would result in 40% wr being the breakpoint

[strange peak]

the thing about being negative... it discourages people to keep playing since that would make them feel they have no way to turn around

+3/+1 would still be good if they limited matches

even if some1 loses 5 matches... being at +5 for playing is still better than being below some1 who didn't play

[faint flare]

i put +1 win and -1 loss for the survey

bc i thought that it makes sense (to me) that an average players with 50% WR has 0 points

like if youre worse than average, youll have negative points. if youre better than average, youll have positive points

however, the ranking resulting from +1/-1 is the same as +3/+1

hmm actually wait no

+3/+1 gives two extra points for every game you play compared to +1/-1, so +3/+1 favors spammers

i cant math

[strange peak]

basically... play more = be/stay at the top

[fast veldt]

Just use mmr system from league 5head

[eager mesa]

not the worst idea

but that does fail at smaller queues

[strange peak]

how does that work?

not familiar with League

[eager mesa]

and we did have some pretty tiny queues

[lethal spruce]

Yeah, we definitely need a bit more advertising next time...there were lots of people asking about it after it started. The current partnership with the GITCG server will definitely help in that regard.

[eager mesa]

[fast veldt]

Idk the algorithm but it takes into consideration of both your winrate and opponent's

[lethal spruce]

Oohhh

That's interesting

[eager mesa]

for mmr to be effective you generally want at least a few hundred participants

[fast veldt]

Lets get a few hundred more peep

[lethal spruce]

Whether we have that many people or not next time remains to be seen...

I know people are saying that tcg is dying, but that really doesn't feel like the case.

[eager mesa]

It really doesn't

except in EU

[strange peak]

most we got was... "hmm, let's see who queued on this moment... just two guys... well, I'll make them wait 9 minutos before confirming... I hope they don't stop looking at the queue window or else..."

[eager mesa]

its not as omega hype as it was week 1 of 3.3

[lethal spruce]

[eager mesa]

but thats always how it is with shiny new content

also we shouldn't know who our opp is before confirming

just allows people to ghost vs people they know they have bad MUs against

[lethal spruce]

I try not to do that, although admittedly, I did do that once against fr55

Sorry bout that

But that should definitely be a new/added feature

I don't feel like there should be any type of card restrictions either

As far as I'm aware, there are no teams that are overly broken rn, although how the three new cards will work into the meta remains to be seen

[faint flare]

yeah its pretty easy to miss queues accidentally / dodge queues on purpose

hide the name and extend the confirmation period would be best

[lethal spruce]

To 15-20 seconds

There have been times where it was over before discord could fully load

[faint flare]

id honestly say even upwards to one minute

to have time to stop whatever youre doing and hop on discord

[lethal spruce]

That's a bit long tho, what if the other person was afk?

[brisk bloom]

A minute’s a bit much but 30-45 seconds seems alright to me

[eager mesa]

30-45s seems fine

[strange peak]

30... sometimes I would just look away or yawn, the moment I noticed... then to switch to the right channel and accept it... it was already gone (sometimes it would lag to me to switch channels in mobile)

[lethal spruce]

So the consensus seems to be about 30 seconds

[faint flare]

i have a potato device so my discord loads slow

[lethal spruce]

Same

[brisk bloom]

I would literally look away for a second to say something to someone and by the time I looked back it was too late, you needed to be laserfocused on it

[eager mesa]

then that adds 1 minute to the 10m wait time
whereas if they just couldnt click confirm fast enough, that adds 10 minutes of wait time

[brisk bloom]

I don’t feel like there’d be nearly as many people missing a minute long confirmation as there would be missing 30 seconds

[eager mesa]

it needs to be at least long enough that you can be confident that any missed pairs are due to AFK and not discord being slow

[strange peak]

well... 1 minute to confirm to avoid wasting 10 more minutes... I think it's valid

[lethal spruce]

I do know that even if there are available opponents, you're still forced to wait a bit, maybe a function where you could be readded to your prior place on the queue if the matchmaking failed?

[faint flare]

would that function slow down the queue even more?

[eager mesa]

that would be nice

[brisk bloom]

Wait nvm Ive been thinking about this like you have to wait the whole minute even if both players accept I just realized it doesn’t work like that

I like the sound of a minute

[lethal spruce]

No, so instead of waiting that time again, you can just match with the next available opponent

[faint flare]

also, what is the reason that youre forced to wait if there are people in the queue?

[lethal spruce]

To prevent trolling

[faint flare]

[strange peak]

I think the bot checks if you already matched with said person 3 times

and maybe they could shuffle a little bit in case both people queued again at the same time

[lethal spruce]

There may be people with malicious intent who just spam matches just to make it harder for others to play, and therefore aquire points

[faint flare]

also, maybe dont count missed queues as +1 for the 3 max matches between a pair of players

[strange peak]

you know... I don't discard people using alts next time for that purpose

and even giving free wins to your main account

[lethal spruce]

?

Ooohh

Huh.

[strange peak]

in EVERY ladder game I play... people uses alt accounts to give in free pts

[faint flare]

dats quite a bit of dedication o_o

[strange peak]

right now, we could just check if we matched with ourselves to accept it or decline people

or

people could simply use their alt accounts to increase their chances in winning

I know people who can play multiple accounts simultaneously

[strange peak]

asians tend to do that alot

[faint flare]

idk if sussy paimon can handle it. but could potentially not match accounts with the same ip address. if worried about alts

[eager mesa]

double queuing

[eager mesa]

doesn't really work bc I could just have one account on PC and one on phone

[strange peak]

I doubt the bot could identify ip in discord for safety issues

even IP banning in discord keeps it hidden

[faint flare]

welp there really isnt a way to completely get rid of alts

[strange peak]

but then... vpn exists too

[eager mesa]

the best way to do it is to just keep an eye on match history/chat and investigate anything suspicious

[faint flare]

gonna need quite a bit of mods to do that

[eager mesa]

any automated system just has too many loopholes

[strange peak]

hard to do it when people would recently join the server just for the tournment

[faint flare]

especially if the tourneys get bigger in the future

[strange peak]

and me... I just started talking in here because of it

I was a complete lurker before that

[faint flare]

i joined this server just because of this XD

[strange peak]

you could be some1's alt

[faint flare]

o_o

you caught me

[strange peak]

I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but things like this happens

[faint flare]

[strange peak]

Just making sure people won't take advantage of it...

[eager mesa]

there's quite a few red flags
a player rarely if ever talking in match chat, especially if the no talk is vs the exact same players
always having the exact same interactions in match chat as well
duplicate screenshots
idk if sussypaimon grabs timestamps off image data, but those mismatching is also a red flag

[strange peak]

(or at least, let the devs figure out a way to prevent this)

[faint flare]

hmm now that i think of it. maybe just add a phone number verification to joining the server. most ppl only have one phone number

if they are dedicated enough to open up a new phone line just to get an alt in

welp theres that

[strange peak]

would that be applied to every people in the server or just the contestants?

[faint flare]

idk

[strange peak]

anyway... there are ways to open different Genshin clients withing the same pc

that's how I know people can use different accounts at the same time

[faint flare]

but you need two discord accounts to register

[strange peak]

often to log on to one's world and complete dailies using their main account

[faint flare]

maybe make it so that only discord accounts with 2FA on to be eligible to join

[strange peak]

yes, easy to create a new one with different browsers or vpn

[faint flare]

well if you need to verify with phone number

[strange peak]

so you won't need to relogin on different accounts

[faint flare]

youll need two phone numbers

[eager mesa]

literally not an issue

[faint flare]

hence the verification level of the account need to be considered

[strange peak]

using 2 browsers also allows you to run both accounts at the same time

[faint flare]

i.e. phone number verification

[strange peak]

I have this one on chrome, another account I use for work on Edge

[faint flare]

like this kinda thing

and this is something that discord can check for

[strange peak]

but how can the staff confirm you are using one?

the authentication only gives you an extra security step

[faint flare]

i think channels can be made so that only 2FA accounts can access it

[strange peak]

that would affect all the server users iirc

[faint flare]

yes. you need a phone number for it. most ppl dont have multiple phone numbers

[strange peak]

and there's the catch that also could happen, when the person uses their family phone numbers

[faint flare]

nah. there is a server that im in. when i was selected to become a mod, i was required to get 2FA to access the mod channels.

but before then i can access the rest of the channels fine

[strange peak]

"hey mom, lend me your phone for a sec just to see a thing, k thx"

[eager mesa]

there is a separate setting in servers to require 2fa to use any mod actions

but that's not a role locked thing

[twilit steppe]

Tbh same haha🤓

[faint flare]

actually wait

why am i worried about this

[strange peak]

how did you guys heard about it outside the server?

[faint flare]

i should just let the organizers worry about it XD

[strange peak]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[twilit steppe]

I saw people on another server talking about the event haha..🤓

[faint flare]

i heard about it from someone else sharing about it, in another server

[strange peak]

I tried to share on the last day to register, but everyone who would be slightly interested declined

maybe if they had pinged it before time, they would have decided differently

but the times to play were the worst to all

where I live is around lunchtime till 4pm... if I didn't had free days, I wouldn't have time at all to play

then 9pm till 1 am would kill me in the next day at work

[eager mesa]

maybe 3 3hr sessions instead of 2 4hr would be better

idk if that messes with bot maintenance times tho

I did notice that there were 2 1hour periods every day that 0 regions were open

[twilit steppe]

This is what happened to me tbh.. one session was 10 PM to 2 AM😭 that's sleeping time..
Well thag is my fault for registering in the wrong server

[eager mesa]

and idk if that was intentional

[eager mesa]

time to make acc in right server and speedrun raiden story quest 2

[strange peak]

next time I'm playing in EU

[twilit steppe]

Omg I'm too lazy to do that haha

[faint flare]

watch everyone play in EU next time and NA/Asia is empty

[eager mesa]

then you'll have to face eldradoman kevinZ and kirano

[strange peak]

meanwhile... let me see how it went there

[twilit steppe]

...also I didn't knew that TCG requires Ei's character story😟😟

[faint flare]

ayaya and yoi are locked behind ei story quest

[eager mesa]

most of it doesn't
but you need to lift the sakoku decree in order to use chars from inazuma

[twilit steppe]

At least I didn't have to face Ark's Barbara - Mona - Ningguang deck in there🤓

And thank you for the info about Inazuma cards both of you🤓🙏

[eager mesa]

juslin ark and I are cooking something real good with the deck

[twilit steppe]

...you too? Oh no😟

[strange peak]

tbh, I probably gave good deck ideas for people I played with... often getting beaten by them later using the deck I used before

we'll see how the statistics of decks used will go

[faint flare]

i only know how to use one deck basically... had to whip up some random bs for the other two decks

[eager mesa]

deck came about by me asking them how to play death sentence
then trying out various 3rds because both diona and ganyu felt pretty cope in the deck

[strange peak]

I tried like 15 different decks for the whole prelims

[eager mesa]

and then just iterated it eventually replacing XQ with mona once ning was decided

[faint flare]

i used one deck for the whole prelims 😃

[eager mesa]

[twilit steppe]

Oh okay... tbh even if the gameplay was annoying and long (for me) that is a super unique + powerful deck IMHO🤓👍

[eager mesa]

unlike the previous iterations, this one doesn't feel tubby reliant

[strange peak]

If I used one I was saving for the knockouts for the whole prelims, I would've had a higher win rate... but I would be sooooo bored

but again... it was a freeze deck

and I tried not to use freeze for fun

[eager mesa]

you could use chicken

[strange peak]

I tried chicken

it has it's ups and downs

[strange peak]

also, dendro counters XingQiu decks

and I never matched with a single one while I used chicken decks... which was a pity

I'm still figuring a summon deck with Maguu... but with XiangLing as it's core

should make cryo swirls on pyro swirled targets a little more fun

I wished XiangLings's Ult could also have 3 stacks like XingQiu's

[twilit steppe]

Hm maybe they deliberately made it only 2 because they think 3 would be way too powerful? Still, I got defeated by someone who use Xiangling's burst in a tournament 😭☹️

[faint flare]

i feel like it makes sense that xianglings burst last shorter than xingqius

bc xianglings proc on any skill use so you can basically guarantee a reaction

xingqius proc on normal attacks

and youll need infusion/catalyst/frostflake to guarantee a reaction

[strange peak]

But XiangLing's Ult cost four! no fair!

[twilit steppe]

That's also probably them not wanting Xiangling to be super powerful haha..

[mystic wharf]

will we be able to watch the streamed matches or is just for mods?

[lethal spruce]

Iirc, there is an official twitch channel dedicated to streaming the tcg matches

[lethal spruce]

Go SI, go!

[neat parrot]

I think being below someone who is 0 game 0 point is fine cuz the according to what you want, 0 game person would never qualify due to minimum games played

Honestly I think fixed number of matches played is better than minimum or maximum and on limited days. Normal option is Swiss rounds followed by top cut. But if they want everyone to play each and everyone else (or at least a large number of people), they should be doing one or multiple groups of Round Robin, followed by top 1 or 2 of each round robin

But based on the vision they had for this style of tournament, I think Round Robin fits their vision the best.

[teal heath]

Attention, Duelists!
We're conducting this survey to know more about what you think about the Preliminary Phase of the Cat's Tail Gathering Tournament. Your feedbacks and suggestions really matter as they will help us improve the event for future tournaments~!
Link: https://forms.gle/vGp6dsnGKyuQkBCT9

[wary heron]

ok

[strange peak]

Why are you reposting what's in #tournament-updates ?

[teal heath]

Because not many ppl are filling it

[safe plaza]

The people who played the prelims might have become lurkers by now 👀

[frozen pike]

We try to take as many suggestions and feedback as possible to analyze them for improvement of the next tourneys

A lot of changes were made for the current tourney with feedbacks from players during the very first tourney

So we're taking your opinion seriously into consideration ~

[rugged crane]

low key i feel oddge cuz I suggested point system in 1st survey...
though this is not quite the kind of point system I had in mind

[strange peak]

how do you know that?

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-among-us-animated-just-some-plastic-gif-18581623

[strange peak]

That's kinda what I suggested with max matches (either per day or for the whole tournament). I don't know if playing all the max matches in one single day would be somehow advantageous or not, although it helps people with a tigh schedule. But then, playing all you can in the 1st day limits the available matches others might have later, so... max matches a day would also help on that.

[neat parrot]

Kinda but not really. I don't think we should have a min or max matches. A fixed number of matches would be prefered

[wary heron]

;-;

maybe just

max number of matches per day

[strange peak]

Assuming everyone could play all these fixed matches, how many matches would you consider to be ok?

[frozen pike]

[neat parrot]

Depends on the format and the number of participants. Swiss entirely also depends on how many rounds of swiss the hosts want before top cut and how many people they want for top cut. But it also requires the hosts to determine tiebreakers. For example 50 player with 8 player top cut and 5 rounds of swiss has 1.6 players eith a 5-0 record 7.8 players with 4-1. 6.4 4-1 playersmake top cut and 1.4 4-1 players will miss. But considering how technical the current prelim system is, that shouldn't be a problem.

The Pros of Swiss is that it makes it easier to determine top cut in the fewest matches. Downside is that you miss out on variety of play between skill levels because 3-0 players will always play 3-0 in round 4 for example.

[wary heron]

suggested format:

Same as this tournament's preliminaries but with a limit of for example 10 matches per day.
Top 16 players qualify for knockouts.

(While registering, send timezone so it is easy to organize match within time window if qualify for knockouts.)

[neat parrot]

I personnaly think Round Robin is the best format for this kind of preliminary

[safe plaza]

the problem with a round robin might be if we have more and more players joining

[neat parrot]

More players actually makes it easier

Because you can have multiple round robins per server. Then choose top 1, up to top 4, from each.

For example, say America server has 32 participants. You can create 4 Round Robins, each with 8 players. The 8 players only play in their respective round robin for prelims once or twice tbd by host (either 7 or 14 matches total). Take the top 2 from each round robin, you have your top 8

[safe plaza]

32 participants is a very low number compared to what we're already working with

& if we aim to grow our player pool, we would definitely need more tournament mods to execute it

[neat parrot]

That's just an example. The number of participants per round robin, how many round robins and how many matches between any 2 players is tbd by mods.

But irl examples of this in action is League of Legends Worlds, Baseball and American football

[safe plaza]

right, i'm just saying, the logistics have to be there, & round robins are set up manually

[faint flare]

the thing is that with round robin/swiss you have to play a specific player, and therefore have to organize a specific time. with a queue you just hop on whenever youre free

idk which most ppl prefer though

[neat parrot]

Yeah of course. But I also did suggest to limit the days for play. imo a lot less matches will be played. So you can limit the days and time frame.

[safe plaza]

but if we have like 200 players in a region for example (not sure the number we had this time, but it was a lot), the mods would have to coordinate with all players and choose who plays who and etc.

and we're just volunteers here hahaha

so i think logistics should be considered too!

[neat parrot]

Well the system you would use to automate would be similar to the one you guys used for Knockouts. As for determining who goes into each round robin, random is best but easy method is just do based off sign ups. for 200 players i think 13 player round robin for example with whoever signed up 1-13, 14-26 etc.

And not to say that the current system couldn't work either. But you realise what you have is a league and not a conventional prelimary format. And as far as leagues go, I can only think of one IRL example being Magic: the Gathering Leagues. But those were successful because you could only play a limited number of matches and only one 1-2 days per week. And the process was over weeks because it is obvious that most people can't participate every day.

At least at my LGS, Leagues were round robins over the course of 1 set, ran on Saturday from Opening to closing.

[neat parrot]

Honestly high-key would like the current system if it had a 3-5 max, only on Saturday from 5 PM EST- 1 AM EST over 5 weeks with top cut on week 6.

Each server getting their own "day" and could mix up which weekend day each week

And could "stockpile" your matches. So if I missed 1 weekend, I can still play those matches in future weeks

[strange peak]

That was the amount I was playing within the 4 hour window, and I had to take breaks because it was too much for me... and I had to take all my lunch break to play like 5 and any possible break from work to play extra 5... it was awful!

But if they could limit the amount so we won't fear getting off of the leaderboard because other could play 2x more than me (and even more on days where I'm truly busy)... that would be a given

[strange peak]

I think that anything that won't make us feel like we are in an endurance marathon would be appreciated

[neat parrot]

Yeah. Also you can create a pseudo round robin by making the max times played vs any 1 person 1 down from 3.

[marble osprey]

Imma be honest the negative numbers after losing discouraged me a lot so after what I lost 5 matches I stopped playing cause people were way ahead of me and I have no chance of catching up even if I played as much as possible till the time limit ended

Completely off topic

Why am I here

[neat parrot]

Nah I think this opinion is very valid point to make.

Honestly the point system could be changed to 3:0 or even 3:1 for W:L. But in order to do that, a fixed number of matches have to be played. Otherwise you end up with the same situation we have now where we have the top 16 averaging over 42 matches.

[outer crag]

Is there a winner yettt

[clever rivet]

today's the last day

one more match will decide first place

[bold widget]

Oh we're already down to the last match. Would have been nice to get notifications for when the matches were being streamed

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah I didn't knew when exactly the matches are streamed too haha

[summer thicket]

what if points were more lenient or more harsh depending on either placement or how many matches had been played
like people who are at 0 points or less dont get negative for losing but maybe once u go over 30 or so points its like the +2 -2 or something
with like other incremenets between or after or however as needed, im just throwing numbers around
im not usually in tournament so i have no idea if that would b good or worse tho lol

[bold widget]

this is interesting, it punishes you for grinding unless you're actually good

[faint flare]

maybe can make the numbers so that to be at a certain range of points (say, 10-19), you need a win rate of say, 20%, and then next range of points (20-29) you need a higher win rate like 40% to stay in there

[neat parrot]

What you are asking for is something like an ELO system

[lethal spruce]

Chess

looks at my score of 558 on chess.com

[neat parrot]

ngl playing online feels worse than playing irl

idk if it's me but it feels like I can't keep track of the pieces online

[wary heron]

oof

sadge

[wary heron]

nah online is worse not because of the pieces stuff its because stuff like lag and ping and server lag and mouseslips will influence the gameplay

yeah ive played 2 years of online chess in covid

for some reason

[lethal spruce]

Fair.

I've only played chess for a few months, picked it up around last Christmas bc boredom

So it's a bit easier for me online vs a real person

[neat parrot]

So it's just me. I feel like I play completely differently online vs in-person

[wary heron]

ive played chess for 7 years

and its just that

you play more irl games you get more used to chess pieces and when you play online its the same

you just gotta play a few games first to get the feel of the whole thing overall

then it will feel more natural and the pieces wont feel like they flying all over da place

[eager mesa]

I think I like this

[wary heron]

basically gitcg ranked

[faint flare]

when would the games be streamed?

[frozen pike]

[strange peak]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peeking-gif-8420673

[wary heron]

[lethal spruce]

YOOOO

Gboot got third in the GITCG tourney

[eager mesa]

Are we allowed to reveal place then?

[lethal spruce]

I dunno...

I just saw the results in the other server

[safe plaza]

I think Pyrrah's talking about our partnered server's tourney

[lethal spruce]

Yeh

[craggy cloak]

[bold blade]

slayyy much congrats

[fast veldt]

grats

[wary heron]

noice

[faint flare]

[lethal spruce]

[brisk bloom]

[misty harbor]

[fast veldt]

[strange peak]

[indigo onyx]

[safe plaza]

[lethal spruce]

Liaaa

[misty harbor]

uwu slay

[safe plaza]

pyrraaaaahhh

[safe plaza]

owo sway

[lethal spruce]

Hi liaaa how you

[safe plaza]

hiiii pyrraaaaahhhh i'm good just eating sandwich

how are you

[lethal spruce]

Sammich

I'm gud

[safe plaza]

good!

[lethal spruce]

I got some candy

From a random stranger

It's yummy

[indigo onyx]

[crystal sparrow]

[brisk bloom]

[strange peak]

Stay away from vans

[lethal spruce]

But this one wasn't white, it was red

[strange peak]

[lethal spruce]

[marble osprey]

[fast veldt]

[mystic wharf]

[mystic wharf]

[lethal spruce]

[indigo onyx]

Tiny person why are you like this?

[lethal spruce]

What do you mean?

[indigo onyx]

Tiny person why accept candy from strangers

[lethal spruce]

Me not tiny

Also, the candy was yummy

It's free food, after all.

A 100% discount, if you will

[indigo onyx]

You are literally the height of a 13 year old

[lethal spruce]

Shut.

[indigo onyx]

[lethal spruce]

It's not true

You made it up

[indigo onyx]

Why would i?

[lethal spruce]

Photoshop

[indigo onyx]

https://www.healthline.com/health/when-do-girls-stop-growing

The website

@lethal spruce

[lethal spruce]

No way

[indigo onyx]

[clever rivet]

you guys have my deepest condolences for your lack of height genes

[misty harbor]

Cope lmaoooo

[clever rivet]

barely 5 ft

[lethal spruce]

SHUT IT

[faint flare]

avg height person here

5’9

~175cm for non Americans XD

[misty harbor]

Pathetic

[faint flare]

[frozen pike]

Vertically challenged?

[lethal spruce]

Shut

I'm not

I can climb

[lethal spruce]

Itz okay, you're tall to me

[bold blade]

same

[marble osprey]

Is it done yet?

[marble osprey]

Bro you are not short at all

Cause if you think you’re short then I will be an ant with that logic

[faint flare]

Welp ser must be a skyscraper bc I have pathetic height

[marble osprey]

Don’t dis yourself

[faint flare]

ok me am tallllll

[marble osprey]

Good

[faint flare]

🧍

[marble osprey]

[outer crag]

WHO WON

[lethal spruce]

I donno

[onyx bison]

me (real)

[clever rivet]

I'm 5' 9"

its fun looking down at you guys

[bold blade]

NAUURR

[clever rivet]

[bold blade]

I’m standing at 4’11 is that says anything about me

[lethal spruce]

I'm taller

[onyx bison]

how tall are you

pyrrah

[neat parrot]

based off the person who said that pyrrah is the height of a 13 y/o I'm gonna guess 5'1" or 5'2"

[onyx bison]

woah im taller

[neat parrot]

Also how did this become a conversation about height?

[faint flare]

welp if we wanna bring the topic back

so what’s the plan on the live streams and stuff? it’s been like a week already

[indigo onyx]

Im actually taller than average

[lethal spruce]

[indigo onyx]

What is it? I dont wanna be too mean to you

[misty harbor]

shush

[lethal spruce]

You are mean

[indigo onyx]

I said too mean

While it does not look like it i care about you feelings to some point

[misty harbor]

Aww bonding

[lethal spruce]

[indigo onyx]

Is it?

[indigo onyx]

[lethal spruce]

[indigo onyx]

I see, no more head pats for pyr

[lethal spruce]

NO

[indigo onyx]

[misty harbor]

yes

[misty harbor]

Yes

[misty harbor]

[lethal spruce]

[eager mesa]

Regsitration for new event already?

When are we getting stream for last event

[wary heron]

idk man

when...

[frozen pike]

let's hopium for this week but im not the one to decide, so we're on the same boat

[outer crag]

Ponpon is there a winner yet?

[onyx bison]

me (real)

[outer crag]

Interesting

[fast veldt]

Is the new tourney format same as last one

[twilit steppe]

Idk but hopefully no for the 10 minutes queue part🙊

[tribal horizon]

Wait so
There's actually PvP for tcg?

[twilit steppe]

Well yes..🤓

[onyx bison]

If theres any changes it'll be announced

[fast veldt]

[edgy orbit]

oh damn another tourney already/

?

[clever rivet]

will the tourney have the exact same rules as the one before?

[eager mesa]

Knockout rounds have already changed

So probably not

[frozen pike]

Knockout requirements were "slightly" changed, it now requires all different character cards instead of 1 new per deck

[lethal spruce]

Sadge

[indigo onyx]

Oh god i cant use the best freeze deck on pyrrah multiple times

[lethal spruce]

[subtle ibex]

[strange peak]

What did they change?

[indigo onyx]

9 different characters minimum

No longer 5 minimum

[strange peak]

so same thing for prelims? I think I'll pass this one then

[twilit steppe]

From what I know (correct me if I'm wrong everyone) you could use whatever deck you want for preliminaries, but yes for knockout it need to be 9 different characters

[strange peak]

I mean... for the grindfest in prelims (more games played = more pts)

I won't be able to play through the whole week just to guarantee top 16

So, good luck for all of you

[lethal spruce]

Same....i am thoroughly burned out from the last tournament

I'm still registering, but I'm ot gonna worry too much about winning this time l

[twilit steppe]

Oh okay, sorry for misunderstanding your point😭🙏
Tbh I hope they do improve the preliminaries, at least make the queue better or something like that haha
As for me personally I don't get burned out but that's probably because there's something wrong with me😭 and I just like playing TCG

[lethal spruce]

I like it...it's just exhausting to spend 5+ hours a day playing

And still keep up with school, work, and my social life

[bold widget]

Make TCG your social life

Problem solved

[lethal spruce]

[neat parrot]

but I can't make it my work life >.>

[lethal spruce]

Exactly

[clever rivet]

yeah

its crazy but

i got friends to hang out too lol

i cant grind 4 hours per day on tcg sustainably

it kinda costed my work and sleep

it feels like quantity over quality

[lethal spruce]

Yeah, it definitely was

[fast veldt]

Ye took a good chonk of my time too

Didnt even get time to draw

I'll prob sit this one out

[wary heron]

im gonna really focus on winning

i couldnt get any money last time

but this time i can grind until my head hurts

[subtle ibex]

gllll

[twilit steppe]

Same

[frozen pike]

Update: A limit to the number of Preliminary Rounds playable per day will be present~

[lethal spruce]

YUS

[wary heron]

whats the limit dude

[onyx bison]

it'll be announced eventually

[wary heron]

[clever rivet]

ok nvm im playing LMAO

[faint flare]

i hope the limit is like 5 or something

[lethal spruce]

Or 4

[faint flare]

yeah somewhere around that

assuming games are about 15-20min each

i feel like playing around 1-2 hrs each day es doable

[lethal spruce]

Yup.

[eager mesa]

I hope its around 10 or so

at 4 you're just gonna end up with ridiculous queue times

[strange peak]

10 used to be my average for the 4 hour duration, which was exhausting enough even taking breaks in-between while squeezing some work too because it took all my lunch break, and well... not everyone has spare time to play for full 4 hours... which would give too much advantage for people with time available.

5 would be ok for me...

I hope they can reestructure the rules before the deadline so I can decide/organize if I'll be playing at all.

[strange peak]

I also hope they can add a minimum amount of matches for the whole tournament to qualify to help with that

[lethal spruce]

True. We don't know how many people are signing up. The partnerships are probably gonna mean more participants

[faint flare]

I played 34 games over the course of a week last time. Though i played more game at the beginning than the end. I might’ve played like 7 or 8 games at most a day? And on those days I felt like I spent all my free time on prelims

If it’s max 10 a day. Then dats max 70 a week. Only one person in the top 16 in NA had 70+ games last time. So overall it’ll still mostly feel as grindy as last time

In Asia there are 3/16 ppl with 70+ games in prelims

[neat parrot]

Well if we are still doing a "League" based system, I hope the cap is 3.

Especially since they are still having week day participation. Any more than that, and honestly, it's not worth it for me

Even more so since anyone working a 8-5 job in MST or PST can only realistically get 1 maybe 2 hours (if they eat a late dinner) with the old time format

[wary heron]

last version i played 24 games

but most of my games were only on 2 days

[subtle ibex]

since the game cap can stack now, you could perhaps wait some days and play them all in one/two sessions like before

[onyx bison]

average round takes 10-20 mins and only like an 8 hour time window a day.... that would be painful

[subtle ibex]

depends on the person

[clever rivet]

i think 5 is good

10 matches is alot for a day

[marble osprey]

So when is it starting?

[frozen pike]

check the times shown in your local time zone in #🎫register

[ionic whale]

i dont understand how does it work

[echo oak]

another one??

:D

[indigo onyx]

Im still making freeze decks with a “s” just for you

I hope i get matched with you trice so i can use 3 freeze decks

Which is going to be very annoying to make

[lethal spruce]

Dragoon

Wanna see my children?

[frozen pike]

if you want to participate in the tournament, register in #🎫register where the schedule of the event is also posted, as for participating in the preliminary phase, there'll be a dedicated channel to it with relevant info soon!

[fast veldt]

The welkin made me join

[indigo onyx]

[ionic whale]

how do i do preliminary phase

I have to play 5 times a day?

[onyx bison]

yes

[frozen pike]

it's flexible, check this out in #tournament-updates
and details of the Preliminary Phase are available in #preliminary-queue now~

this means if you missed a day, the next day you will have 10 matches to play to make up for it

[ionic whale]

so i have to play 30 matches

[frozen pike]

it should be 35 (5 * 7 days)

[bold widget]

Why do we all start with a score of 100 instead of just 0

Especially since it can't go negative this time

[subtle ibex]

where does it say that?

[bold widget]

#preliminary-queue at the bottom

Unrelated but I played exactly 35 games in the last prelims so guess I'm doing the same thing this time haha

[subtle ibex]

ahhhh okay, yea i seee
that is a good point ngl lol

[twilit steppe]

The maximum number of matches now is 58 matches less than the amount I played last tourney.. Hopefully my win rate is better this time🙏🤓 haha

[subtle ibex]

gl!!!!!

[twilit steppe]

Thank you... and good luck to you too if you're participating

[subtle ibex]

wellll, im unfortunately nowhere near unlocking the TCG mode since i am a new player ehe
buuuut i do have my eye on this nonetheless 👀

[lethal spruce]

Is that a yes?

[indigo onyx]

Sure…..

[lethal spruce]

Look

[indigo onyx]

Bottom one is fat

[lethal spruce]

That's so mean

You don't insult my kids and get away with it

[indigo onyx]

I like the top one

[lethal spruce]

Oh, that one's supposed to die.

[indigo onyx]

I will show blatant favoritism

[outer crag]

you also have axolotl kids??

[indigo onyx]

Is that supposed to make me sad?

[lethal spruce]

They're mine

[lethal spruce]

No, just letting you know that's how the story goes.

[outer crag]

Wha?

[indigo onyx]

[lethal spruce]

My children

[outer crag]

So u also have axolotl children!
Yayyyy
I'm not alone now

[indigo onyx]

How you draw them?

[lethal spruce]

I draw

(Mc btw)

[outer crag]

Hmm we have very different styles

[lethal spruce]

Yeh

The second one is for da book

Wait no

The first style

The second one is the character concepts I made

Then I hired a friend to draw the stuff for the book

[outer crag]

Niceee

[lethal spruce]

And maybe I can publish it

Maybe

[outer crag]

I would buy it if it gets sold over where I live

[indigo onyx]

[subtle ibex]

[lethal spruce]

[subtle ibex]

[fallen mountain]

indeed, sol is indeed an axolotl

[strange peak]

https://tenor.com/view/axalote-abrindo-boca-gif-26169274

[subtle ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ajolote-axolotl-cute-swimming-gif-16370272

[lethal spruce]

Yes yes

[lucid sable]

( -v-) Why do we start with 100 pts if we don't go in to the negatives by losing?

[safe plaza]

I'm playing this time

[lethal spruce]

Noooo

I'm screwed

[safe plaza]

Don't leak my trump cards Pyrrah

[devout verge]

How many preliminary battles do they expect you to do? 1 a day?

[lethal spruce]

How

[neat parrot]

35 matches is still a lot of matches

[frozen pike]

just a display issue, it's fixed now!

[lucid sable]

oh

[subtle ibex]

[bleak nimbus]

Hmm

[marble osprey]

Why does the leader board still have previous matches information?

[strange peak]

They keep records of everything we do... EVERYTHING!!!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-what-wut-crazy-gif-15043161

[marble osprey]

[wary heron]

basically we only have 35 games collectively

well i played only 24 last time so im safe

[lucid sable]

( 0u0) So max of 350 points and lowest of 35

[lethal spruce]

A 10 to 1....

Interesting.

[lucid sable]

Ok so I forgot to ask, but will the Heated Mode be allowed for the battles or not? I'm pretty sure the Heated Battles mode will still be active when the tourney starts. But I am not sure.

[ionic valley]

quick question, i have an account on the na server but i am currently in asia , so will i be able to use the na account?

[wary heron]

yes

be like me

an asian NA player

[ionic valley]

good to know i have company hehe

[twilit steppe]

That's me too🙋‍♀️

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah I'm wondering about the same thing actually haha.. maybe it's on the rules but I didn't catch it somehow😭☹️

[bold widget]

@twilit steppe hiiii I'm playing against you right now

[twilit steppe]

Oh hello.. are you the one who just defeated my Noelle team? haha

[bold widget]

Yeah hehe

[eager mesa]

Not here today but I'm gonna be farming tomorrow

[lethal spruce]

I thought it doesn't start til tomorrow...

[eager mesa]

Even better

[bold widget]

Oh, I just found Ryssa in a random match haha

[lethal spruce]

Woah what're the chances

[twilit steppe]

Well I do often get matched with people I know and I recognize haha.. 🤓

[timid helm]

this is the first tournament i’ve registered for, i’m really excited even though i’m not too good at competitive gitcg maybe i’ll give some people some easy wins LMAO

[subtle ibex]

You're gonna do great do your best!!

[timid helm]

let’s all do our best and have fun!

[fluid sentinel]

Hiii this is my first tournament too and I'm very confused

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do

Do I wait until 8 am tomorrow and then click "start" button in #preliminary-queue ?

[rugged crane]

yes
que schedule tells u when you could que up for your timezone
if unsure you can always just click the start button to check

[fluid sentinel]

Thanks so much!

[lethal spruce]

Nah, you'll do great! I thought I was screwed last time too, and I somehow beat Ryssa twice....

[faint flare]

ooo it starts tomorrow

[twilit steppe]

Oh yeah I made grave mistakes haha also your Noelle deck is strong too

[lethal spruce]

I wish, the next person wiped the floor with me

[twilit steppe]

Is it gbootoxide? Well he's a strong player, I don't think I can defeat his Klee + Mona + Agent team tbh haha🤓

[lethal spruce]

Me neither, I'm trying to copy it

But I dun remember how the team worked

[twilit steppe]

Good luck with that I'm rooting for you..🤓🙏 also maybe you could check the GITCG server tournament VODs, I think some of his matches got streamed there haha

[wary heron]

klee mona agent? snipe them back

like if you manage to snipe the mona turn 1 its pretty much over

i dunno how exactly to do that

but yes

[twilit steppe]

Idk how to do that sadly #skillissue

[wary heron]

if you cant

then go mm ec

[twilit steppe]

Well considering my performance in current tournament that just finished I doubt I could even defeat it with that team☹️😭

[lethal spruce]

Uh....i dunno, aggravate?

[wary heron]

literally just output as much damage as possible

[lethal spruce]

That's really only possible with double pyro....

[faint flare]

i feel like its really hard to snipe mona turn 1. since ppl usually start with her then fast swap to pyro for vape

[strange peak]

Some people just cast her skill then play paimon dice cards (and sometimes a lotus food) expecting to not get 1 shot with pyro res card in the 1st turn

[lucid sable]

( -v-) is the heated mode allowed during the tourney?

Also I've been working on new comps with the new cards

Since I wanted to prof 10 all of my cards but I don't think I'll be bringing any to the tourney

[twilit steppe]

I'm still wondering the same thing haha..

[lucid sable]

Yeah-

Cuz that's gonna be chaotic if it isn't sorted

Like it could be fun but if like one person expects normal and it isn't? Idrk

Since there is a 5 battle cap I'm debating on whether or not I should go for extra safe with like a double geo or double hydro deck or offensive

[frozen pike]

@twilit steppe @lucid sable Normal mode is the preferred way for preliminary, but it's not forbidden to play in heated battle mode. Just keep in mind that the Knockout will use normal mode

[wary heron]

heated prelims

[lethal spruce]

Yus

So we can decide when we match

[wary heron]

yeeess

i can torture you guys with ganyu

[twilit steppe]

Oh okay thanks for the answer!

[lucid sable]

^ Yeh ty!

[upbeat mantle]

There’s modes?

[marble osprey]

I soo wanna play right now but my class is gonna start

[upbeat mantle]

I’m nervous for starting haha. Never done anything like this before

[fluid sentinel]

Me too... I'm not really sure what to expect

[south plume]

shake the nerves

[wary heron]

not gonna lie im a bit scared

[fluid sentinel]

So we add them as friends.

?

[marble osprey]

No

[south plume]

dont have to you can search uid in coop

and direct join

[marble osprey]

Just go to your opponents world or let them join

They give you and your opponents uid when it starts

[twilit steppe]

Same🤓👍

[wary heron]