📌gimshim-help

[hallow willow]

guys how much time does it take for items to respawn?

i farmed all of the silk flowers from my map 2 days ago and they still havent respawned

[strange scarab]

https://upload-os-bbs.hoyolab.com/upload/2024/07/22/19422722/fe54bf4643dd73e0771f581d5ce04192_1112762770522956759.png?x-oss-process=image%2Fresize%2Cs_1000%2Fauto-orient%2C0%2Finterlace%2C1%2Fformat%2Cwebp%2Fquality%2Cq_70

[hallow willow]

got it. thanks

[elder bluff]

48 hours

[neon wave]

46

It's on the image

[feral reef]

does esco want 90?

[young glen]

Healing scales off hp no ?

She also gets cr on acsencion

[feral reef]

atk

[bright cape]

nope 80/90 is fine

[young glen]

Ohh i nean she syill gets atk i dont thi k it would be that major tho

[zealous ledge]

What to do here?

[young glen]

Look around for the light activated glasses and wtuff

[zealous ledge]

Tysm

[lyric cargo]

an interactive map should help here (for next time)

[zealous ledge]

I'm doing interactive map, but the instruction was unclear. That's why I came here to ask

For reference, this is what's on the interactive map

Did not realize the arrow marked two locations

[lyric cargo]

try the unofficial one, it has many posts for each

I don't use the official one, since if the one post they give doesn't help you're kinda stuck

[zealous ledge]

Oki

[elder bluff]

use a better map

[young glen]

is this good for varka (lunar chickens domain)

[warm sphinx]

Hello, can you give me teams for floor 12?

[lyric cargo]

better to use the test dummy if you want to compare how much damage he deals

but greater than 30s clear time isn't something I'd personally be excited about
that said, I've been playing for longer and my teams are more invested

[young glen]

its varka against lunar chickens 😭

[lyric cargo]

cryo second half is a must, because of chamber 3
chamber 1 you can bring whatever is strong. slight advantage to teams with pyro swirl in chamber 3

[lyric cargo]

I don't own him, so can't compare
it doesn't sound like a favourable matchup

which I suppose is the point

[young glen]

il test it on a test dummy then

[young glen]

yeah they pretty much have 2x the hp

[lyric cargo]

losing a party member comes with extra awkwardness, though
needing to exit and tp to a statue

[balmy cove]

Is Skyward Pride good on Aino as Flins support?

[lyric cargo]

no, use fav greatsword if you have

you can also use the event weapon if you want to make Aino easy to build
but it should provide less for the team

[balmy cove]

And for Ineffa, I have her sig weapon, should I give her Totm or Silken Moon 4pc set?

[young glen]

@lyric cargo OK HE MIGHT BE AL ILTTLE WEAK

[opal surge]

I also think the lunar chickens don't actually take more lunar damage

Unless they're different than the onslaught ones

[hazy lotus]

we're clearing abyss floor 11 with this one

[bright cape]

i finally got good tenacity pieces
which one do u recommend?

[desert monolith]

id say left one i think

[bright cape]

that one is universal. works with any team

for mona skirk escoffier team, the right one is enough too

[desert monolith]

better to go for generalist build imo

[hollow cape]

Should I get all Lunar Reactions characters? Since I don’t have Columbina and only Aino & Flins.. I thought I’d have to go for Linnea, Lauma & probs Ineffa for lacking other Moonsign characters

I’d do Lunar-crystallize with Itto, Linnea, Furina & Aino and Lunar bloom with… Lauma and what’s left (I doubt I can save enough primos and win 50/50s on 3 banners in 1 patch)

[hazy lotus]

you really don’t need to have a team for every single lunar damage type just get bina and ineffa on rerun for your flins

[valid anchor]

no need. Try to save for a future Rerun for Columbina, she's the main reaction-enaber - at the point you can focus on DPS characters from Lunar-reactive elements (Geo/Electro/Dendro). Ineffa is also a go, she's pretty good on her own.

[digital berry]

Hi, does anyone happen to know where I can ask for some coop help? Need to do some bosses for achievement. I'm on the NA server.

[strange scarab]

This one but this server is kinda dead so you can try genshin unofficial if youre banned from official

[quaint fern]

oh i can

I'm waiting for bread to bake right now anyways 🤣

[digital berry]

Thanks! Last time I tried to join the official one, it's full. Let me try again this time.

[quaint fern]

i'm literally right here

[digital berry]

Thanks! My uid is 605403412

[quaint fern]

wait which ones do you need anyways?

[digital berry]

Sorry not used to discord. It took me a while to figure out how to do reply

[quaint fern]

oh all good

[strange scarab]

Big servers can hold up to 200 millions nowadays

[digital berry]

thanks didnt know that at all

[zenith thicket]

Hey guys c0 kazuha or c1 iansan better for mavuika c0r1? I have citlali c0r1 and c6 benny

[dusky oxide]

Iansan

[zenith thicket]

What artifacts? Since citlali has scroll

[lyric cargo]

its this for current abyss first side, or current Stygian first side?

those are situations where you might run Kazuha

but there's also Sucrose

[zenith thicket]

My sucrose is only c2 or c1 😢

[lyric cargo]

for a general team, her buffers are better

[lyric cargo]

her cons don't matter for this

[zenith thicket]

Wouldnt kazuhas 40 dmg% be better than sucrose em buffs?

I think it was 40 right

Also i cant lie sucrose’s ult is so inconsistent when it comes to actually absorbing the element half the time im not fighting the boss im fighting sucrose 😭

[violet cipher]

what crit stats should skirk have with sig?

[lyric cargo]

you don't usually absorb an element with it

her EM makes her want to play in reaction teams, but absorbtion can mess up the aura

[zenith thicket]

Alr, so sucrose is better than both kazuha AND iansan right?

Do i just na after bennet to proc vv?

Or is she just better than kazuha bc i alr finished abyss so idc abt that

[lyric cargo]

the EM buff can be better afaik

Mavuika's melt team is:
Mav,
Bennett,
Citlali,
Iansan / Xilonen / Sucrose

I haven't seen Kazuha there, by default. But whenever there's content that wants grouping, he tends to be played with her

[zenith thicket]

Wait actually im getting fried on the boss that splits into like multiple things in stygian who should i play

[lyric cargo]

Iansan is better, at least with c2. if you mean in general

like I said, it's specifically for first half of this abyss or the first boss this stygian that I'd consider Kaz / Sucrose

[zenith thicket]

Alr tyvm

[lyric cargo]

maybe this has some team ideas you could use

if so, you can watch the video and see how they play it
https://m.youtube.com/@chetevii/videos

they use some underpowered supports to show it's doable, you can upgrade Jean to Kazuha for example

[drowsy shuttle]

lol i literally had to use a melt skirk to get 8 stars

[young glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1484612877619958021/Genshin_Impact_2026-03-20_18-59-54.mp4?ex=69bf85bc&is=69be343c&hm=6aec70b09ea67953441c8851366ec052332925400eb2930b277e7abe95e877e4& how dovi make him stronger

[humble gazelle]

asia

[nova swift]

Okay I'm on America sorry

[opal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/megumi-fushiguro-megumi-fushiguro-fushiguro-megumi-mahoraga-gif-12780118274624718890

@neon wave

do you happen to have the little one final quest document again

with like the prerequisites

[rugged sparrow]

oh yeah @opal surge

[opal surge]

Whats up

[rugged sparrow]

guess what happened

to my Escoff pull

[opal surge]

you dont have escoffier?

[rugged sparrow]

pity 82

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

no Escoff for me for another half a year or longer ig

[opal surge]

Its fine tsaritsa will powercreep escoffier before her next rerun

its actually value to not get escoffier

[rugged sparrow]

strategic

I'm basically already Capturing Radiance range again

and last I proc it was Lauma in 6.0

[neon wave]

let me grab

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfTvCM5vKM_cHijmHEKh-aDgarbVMqVWipl6kGk9F4w/edit

[opal surge]

ive already procced CR thrice as well I know that feeling

twice on chasca (once per banner of hers) once on bina

[opal surge]

tyty

[rugged sparrow]

🫂

[opal surge]

those 6 dehyas I got in natlan didnt come out of nowhere

[halcyon shale]

I need c6 standards to level 100 my dearest varka

[zealous ledge]

How many am I missing? Do I have all of them?

[neon wave]

yis

[zealous ledge]

Yay

[valid anchor]

you're fine for now. current cap for Nod Krai.

[nova swift]

Not as fine as you

[nova swift]

Is Skirk/Dahlia/Xingqiu/Charlotte an okay team?

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't recommend going for Skirk if you can't also get Escoffier and Furina

[nova swift]

I'm not getting Escoffier or Furina ever

But I have skirk C6R5

[lyric cargo]

[lyric cargo]

then I have no frame of reference, sorry

it's both way higher investment than I'm used to seeing and lacking the supports I take for granted

[nova swift]

I'm going to test it out in the miliastra thing hold on

My Charlotte has level 1 talents I just realized but I got 110k dps, for reference my C6R5 Neuvilette team is 85k dps

[lost lake]

Hey I am saving for Shogun Raiden but I’ve heard her c3 r5 is better than c6 r1?

Which would you recommend for me to go for?

[desert monolith]

anyone other than raiden jk

ig after c3 she doesnt rlly get much more dmg, so prob better to invest in sig but idk raiden just isnt worth investing in at all, not even worth pulling imo but id say go for c3r1 if u REALLY wanna invest in her but not r5

[hazy lotus]

if you’re pulling purely out of love for the character which i assume you are otherwise why would you be considering r5 then idk why you wouldn’t just go c6 even if technically she maxes out most of her dps at c3

r5 is probably at best like 20% for an insane amount of pulls

[viral mulch]

im beginning to feel like a rap god rap god

[viral mulch]

20% more than c4 5 6 of raiden combined fr

[opal surge]

But C6 high-key more aura than r5

C3r5 kinda aura loss combination

[hazy lotus]

just c6 and r5

[opal surge]

True...

[viral mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/maki-zenin-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-gif-16559924381492561364

[opal surge]

Is c3r5 less aura or c6r0 @ guoballs

[viral mulch]

🥀

r0 for 0 aura

[rugged sparrow]

[next musk]

r0 is full aura

[drowsy shuttle]

build??

[drowsy shuttle]

Wait hows he doing no damage-

[young glen]

Idfk

[drowsy shuttle]

😭

[lyric cargo]

good plume, good sands
but why did you reroll that flower, it's an 8-liner with only 2 useful substats

[young glen]

I had a vision

A very bad one

[quaint fern]

Is that ttds VV sucrose? Also try pyro goblet

Also you're not getting tidal shadow buff bc no healing

[young glen]

yeah ttds vv

i have like no good sands or pyro gobs

[calm eagle]

Who should I pick for the free con
I'm currently making a Varka Team (Klee/Venti/Bennett) & Skirk (hopefully I get Escoffier tmrw I'm at 70 pity)

[vernal bane]

The kuni main in me wants to say wanderer but seems u don’t use him. Klee is the trigger option since you’ll be using her, but monas cons are also good and she is still a good pick in many teams. Diluc is also an option since it puts u closer to getting extra levels for others.

[calm eagle]

I would've used Wanderer if I hadn't been so lucky during Sumeru

But a Durin Rerun will prob come late 6.X so I'm not to sure it would be good to waste a free con on Klee atm

[young glen]

Pretty sure the event is inf and it will always come back

[calm eagle]

Ik but it's matter of who's actually worth the con for long term investment cus I suck at end game

[serene bloom]

can anyone help me and a friend do apep

we dont have it unlocked
server: NA

[next musk]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pf47wMEIzXUX0I3dOhty-uZkBxXVUpnA
besides obviously cooked escoffier's ER, does it mostly look fine? I had been experimenting a bit with different combos cuz I feel odd with both n5 spam and proper n2 combo(I think im not fast enough with either my cancels or cps? cuz I really dont have enough time for full n2 combo)

[neon harness]

You don’t have to have it unlocked to do it, go to domain tab and you should find apep domain

[serene bloom]

you cant do quick play in co op and my friend only likes doing domains with other people so that he can get carried lol
but its ok we found someone random in the co op tab and fought it :)

[violet cipher]

Is this flower good enough to keep? Team is Nefer/Lauma/Columbina/sucrose or nahida

[lyric cargo]

carry nice sands and goblet

I'd just use what you have for now, I wouldn't farm gilded

is Lauma's team your only Nod-Krai team?

if you have one that's not lunar-bloom, you could consider farming aubade

[violet cipher]

y

[lyric cargo]

aubade is a 2pc EM set as well

[violet cipher]

I mean yes

[lyric cargo]

ah, well

I still think aubade is better to farm than gilded, but neither is worth it then imo

you can also check your Wanderer's Troupe pieces I guess

[hollow cape]

Should I consider next patch Linnea or Lauma for Lunar reactions?

My only Lunar dps is Flins

[bright cape]

why 2pc 2pc is recommended on lauma?

i have seen this at multiple places

[lyric cargo]

I'd ask again when the chars are out, but Flins only really wants Ineffa and Columbina

getting multiple lunar teams is a bit rough, as only one of them can have Columbina

personally I still got Zibai, thinking I'll get some vertical investment and then run her with Aino

but I might just be benching my Nefer instead, if the current Stygian was any indication 😅

[young glen]

Not bina?

Isnt bina a better aino

[lyric cargo]

well, if I'm running two lunar teams one of them has to use Aino

yes, Bina is much better

[young glen]

Oh heah tru

[opal surge]

More em

[bright cape]

won't gilded give even more?

[opal surge]

Not with nahida no

[bright cape]

even with nahida i think it's 180 vs 160

[opal surge]

Gilded is 50 per off element

[drowsy shuttle]

i was wondering if escoffiers cryo application is the exact same as citlali and if it would be worth getting her
ik her passives don't rlly benefit arle but still

[opal surge]

It's not the exact same as citlali

But it's pretty close

[drowsy shuttle]

would you say it's "good enough"

[opal surge]

For arle? No

Not good enough to warrant pulling a 5*

[bright cape]

so 80 + 50 * 2 no?

[opal surge]

The 2 off elements being?

[drowsy shuttle]

thanks

[bright cape]

hydro and electro

[opal surge]

Electro

What

[bright cape]

does it not work if both are hydro?

[opal surge]

We are talking about Lauma yes?

[bright cape]

i do lauma, bina, kuki, xingqiu

[opal surge]

Nefer lauma nahida Bina is 3 dendro

[bright cape]

oh i see now

[opal surge]

That's why they play 2p2p

[bright cape]

yah. in that case, make sense

i don't have nefer. i usually do bina on-field

[opal surge]

Then sure yeah

[jaunty crypt]

guys where do i craft this

[young glen]

crafting station

[lyric cargo]

alchemy table

[vernal bane]

Y’all, how much dps should Zibai be doing u think?

[lyric cargo]

depends on the team and investment (r1? harbinger? craftable? c2 Illuga or c6?)

all the lunar dps are around 150k dps with their ideal c0 teams

[vernal bane]

150k dps?? Man I’m so cooked then

[lyric cargo]

you got Columbina and c6 Illuga?

[vernal bane]

I’m doing Zibai harbinger, bina proto amber, c2 illuga c6 gorou and only doing 85k

[vernal bane]

My rotation cooked u think?

srry for no sound lol

[lyric cargo]

I had r1 from the start, so can't really say from personal experience

[vernal bane]

How much dps do u think crowning illuga burst and gorou skill adds? They’re both 80/80 so only lvl 8 skills (11 with gorou because c6)

[lyric cargo]

you can fill the bar completely and get 3 pretty quick E in a row

but idk how much of a difference it makes

[lyric cargo]

I can't really say, but Illuga burst should be more important than Gorou skill

Gorou might also get replaced I think, so I'm not levelling mine at all anymore

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Linnea

[humble gazelle]

is anyone willing to let me fish in their world

(wl 5)

[sacred ember]

i pulled skirk and escoffier but i have no other good cryo/hydro units so im using ganyu c1 with them im wondering for hydro would xingqui or columbina would be better for the 4th spot ?

[lyric cargo]

so no Furina? hmm, that's slightly rough but I suppose you'll pull her next rerun?

I'm not sure how much hydro Skirk needs, for her void rifts

[sacred ember]

sadly no i'm pulling her when shes back

[hollow cape]

Tbh I either run Aino/Lauma or Aino/Linnea for the Moonsign buff

For Aino/Lauma I could use Nahida & Furina
For Aino/Linnea I’d run Itto & Albedo

[lyric cargo]

mmh, older carries aren't really to my standard
but I don't own most of them, so I don't really have to consider it
just Raiden, Venti, Tighnari, Navia
all four of them mostly benched outside theater

[hollow cape]

My plan is getting Lauma, Columbina, Ineffa, Kinich, Mavuika, Citlali, Navia & Neuvi

Although I’d get Linnea for Lunar-crystallize

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably drop Kinich, Navia, Neuvi as they're kinda last year's meta
but I suppose we're not pulling with the same goals

[hazy lotus]

telling a gay man not to pull for genshin men is like daring to tell a dreamer not to dream

[neon wave]

that's deep

[earnest gale]

I’m happy I built dps venti. He is my vip especially in Varka patch than his latest rerun

[delicate flare]

This is my new Skirk before this she had 2173 attack with 87 CRIT rate and 213 CRIT damage is 4 130 more attack worth 6-7 CRIT rate?

[delicate flare]

R/Im14andthisisdeep ahh message

[next musk]

[true spear]

Us anyone in North America server and has the teapot salesman

[crude snow]

632563539

My teapot is always open. Salesmen are only available to purchase from on weekends

[true spear]

It says player id not found

Mine is 673014823

[crude snow]

Friend req sent

[true spear]

I accepted

[crude snow]

My teapot is always open so just go in whenever

[true spear]

I'm inside and looking for your guy

[true spear]

I cannot find him

[true spear]

Do you need to do it for your bp

[crude snow]

Nah, mine's full

[true spear]

Oh alright

Thanks again

[maiden elbow]

Does Nido special dendro cores react with lunar?

[violet cipher]

I'm stuck on Fearless cause I don't have much good against Knuckle Duckle. Is there a different team I should try besides bruteforcing with Nefer?

[next musk]

am I cooked for mandragora? my arle is 00 and feels like she is not even remotely close to killing it
I easily beat automaton and I think ineffa will let my nefer handle knuckle duckle

[earnest gale]

I saw ppl use sacrifice sword on Kazuha to let him not miss any small mushroom.
Then after getting it down, use arle to kill it as fast as possible?

[next musk]

I am not missing any shrooms

I am considering using sac to group them twice though

arle staggers them all away way too fast

and its very hard to manage cryo aura on her in general, let alone on 10 different targets

a lot of missed melts

[neon wave]

avoid hitting them with her CA and her third NA of her na string, that knocks them away. Just stick to N2

[next musk]

I don't do either

[neon wave]

welp

[next musk]

yeah on first set I get to pre activate my bol on the boss before he splits

and you can cancel her ca so it collects but doesnt land

I think it might be investment diff but not sure

[neon wave]

I did it relatively comfortably with monopyro but I have R1 yeah

[next musk]

will have to see if anyone does clear it with 3 cost arle in the end

my xiangling is c3, cant use monopyro

[neon wave]

Bennett Xilo Kazu

[next musk]

don't 'ave it

[neon wave]

what difficulty is this again?

[lyric cargo]

afaik it leads to fall dmg, but I didn't look into it too much after getting my own clear

[next musk]

fearless

i dont think 00 arle has cleared dire ever?

maybe first edition

[hazy lotus]

probably against the fatui operative

[earnest gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w0gNRyTWzI

[next musk]

cheers geoff why is fucking kirara there tho

[earnest gale]

probably c0 Arle needs a shield and gives particles to team with fav?

[next musk]

is it not some bizarre burning thing with mandragora?

[earnest gale]

oh this is scroll set kirara

[next musk]

120 seconds😭

lemme try with sac kazuha tho

[earnest gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhAfMJwPdGM btw, c0r1 Arle & c0r1 xilonen

[lyric cargo]

burning does help, but you can already get it with just Bennett afaik
the boss can apply dendro to you, and Bennett applies pyro to you. so you get fast pyro hits from burning in a small AoE around you

well, during Bennett's uptime and if you let yourself get hit

[opal surge]

i think 00 arle can clear two bosses this dire

i just think no good arle player runs 00 arle

ssaod is definitely possible

[next musk]

Like, citlali escoffier melt?

Escoless skirk probably isnt beating mandragora either

[opal surge]

citlali layla

has a 01 clear at like 112s

arle also cleared plungeboss, fatui operative, and herra 00 with ease off the top of my head

maybe cactus I would have to check again

arle has a pretty exceptional SO record her kit just works well

[rugged sparrow]

fatui operative vs. Arle is criminal

white tassel dire clear

[next musk]

I know she has good record but I wouldnt think it would be 00 record besides indeed operative

She has best c1 and one of best r1 in the game as well as stall friendly kit

[opal surge]

she has like a 100s run on the plunge guy at 00 i think xd

[next musk]

I wouldn't have guessed it but it doesn't surprise me

[rugged sparrow]

doubt about her c1 being "the best"

[next musk]

That guy helps you kill itself

[opal surge]

she definitely doesnt have the best c1 in the game no

[next musk]

It is like 23-27% depending who you ask and gets better with sig

[rugged sparrow]

isn't Mua higher

[next musk]

Its just attached to a washed up bum

[opal surge]

but either way dire data at c0r1 is very bad

c0r0 i mean

because most good runners simply dont run 00

[rugged sparrow]

🦈

[next musk]

Mualani sig is a relative bum to compensate

Good shout tho

[rugged sparrow]

we don't talk about sac jade/widsith scamming

[next musk]

Wish there was polearm widsith

Arle would costbaaaaaat

[rugged sparrow]

hey there's Fjords

just play reaction

[next musk]

💳

[rugged sparrow]

wdym, it's 0 cost

everyone knows 0 cost = costs no money

[next musk]

Best runners are either cheapest runners or most expensive runners

So they would clear with tassel if they could for rep

[opal surge]

no a lot of exceptional runners run 01 even if they could clear 00

[next musk]

There isnt exactly a clout in 90s 01 as opposed to 00 115s, is there?

[opal surge]

00 is more of an english thing a lot of chinese runners simply assume 01 as baseline

if u dont have 01 on your dps in china ur just a bum

it is what it is

[rugged sparrow]

dont they just have two vids anyway

unless it's just straight up impossible for 00 clear

[next musk]

You can have it and not use it
Costbat>timer

[rugged sparrow]

e.g. KD

(genuinely what the fuck is this boss)

[next musk]

But I guess different strokes

[opal surge]

the best clorinde runner for example has never posted a 00 clear

despite it being possible on at least 4 of his clears

[next musk]

I have zero interest in intermediate timer runs and I dont know anyone else who does

[rugged sparrow]

I saw Clor run on Mandragora

I feel ashamed for playing the same game as he does

[next musk]

I only care for cheapest and fastest, dont see a point/achievement in like 6 cost 80s clear or whatever

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

well that guy has 8 dire clears on clorinde

he makes clorinde look like the best fontaine unit i fear

[rugged sparrow]

making Clor looks like a t0 unit

[next musk]

Did you see dis shit
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CzArzmERY/

[rugged sparrow]

ah yes

we're entering the era where each mains try to upscale each another

with fuckass adhd combo

[next musk]

This shit is bizarre though

[rugged sparrow]

ik

[next musk]

Tf you mean 232k 4 cost

Its almost as good as melt mav

[opal surge]

noone treats c1r1 the same as 2 c0 5*s btw

cost was strangely adapted into english

c1r1 arle is not the same compared to like c0r1 nefer + c0 bina

[next musk]

Its obviously cheaper cuz you dont have to spend resin om

[rugged sparrow]

isn't melt Mav genuinely lower at similar cost unless you're like

20 Mav 00 Cit

[next musk]

Also in that "tournament" Nefer is using C1R1 not columbina

Interestingly enough

And is as demonstrated on preview of this video, behind arle

It is because nefer vid uses american pop music and this one uses some dark arts tune

[next musk]

4 cost Mav is 310k in this competition

It is overload

[rugged sparrow]

[next musk]

I would assume Melt to be 250k+

[rugged sparrow]

we're costchesting with this one

[opal surge]

its just brainrot

its completely worthless data

[next musk]

Overload is costchest galore

[next musk]

Why?

[rugged sparrow]

also out of curiosity, do u happen to know Skork investment prio @opal surge

friend was asking if he should c2 Skork or c1 Escoff

[opal surge]

c0 >>>>> escoffier > r1 >c2 > c1 escoffier

[next musk]

Based c0 prio

[rugged sparrow]

r1 > c2?

[next musk]

I am so tired of escoffier>skirk copers

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

no escoffier is 100% better than skirk

but c0 skirk is the first point of SKIRKS investment prio

[rugged sparrow]

... I mean

[opal surge]

otherwise we woudlnt call it SKIRKS

[rugged sparrow]

Skork

[opal surge]

prio

[next musk]

Skirkless Escoffier is sucrose victim

[rugged sparrow]

is r1 > c2 because r1 is cheaper or

[opal surge]

generally yeah unless u have either an insane haran build or mistsplitter can add nuance

[rugged sparrow]

makes sense

[next musk]

Her r1 is just better than any early con team has

[opal surge]

I would also add PJC but im convinced noone in the word has an insane PJC build

[next musk]

Unless you already have one of good 5 stars

[rugged sparrow]

there probably is one demented person with insane PJC build

shouldn't discount some CN/JP gamers with builds out of these world

[opal surge]

true..

[rugged sparrow]

I still haven't recovered from that 40 subs Wrio

I wasl ike

"damn solo c6r1 Wrio is impossible for Dire SSAOD"

[next musk]

There appeared out of nowhere 2 months ago a CN guy on arlechino board with only 1 dead sub away from every roll being good

[rugged sparrow]

enter the humble 40 subs Wrio

[rugged sparrow]

1 dead sub u say

[next musk]

He appeared soon after top1 and top2 arlechinos posting arlechino slander in their profile handles on akasha

[rugged sparrow]

wheres your 44 sub Cit, Sensi

[next musk]

Legit hoyo employee got mad and painted himself a build

[opal surge]

shes about to be 45 sub next patch

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

I WILL craft a 4 liner next patch

[rugged sparrow]

my Varka still homeless as fuck

[opal surge]

look at this ugly yellow colour on my sands

[rugged sparrow]

not a single usable winds piece

[opal surge]

but hey I dont have a dead sub at least

Im just missing one

[rugged sparrow]

what in the

[opal surge]

i also have like nothing on winds and im just randomly farming in case nicole needs it

its kinda brainrot

[rugged sparrow]

my Varka on 4p Glad he's homeless af

my grandmaster can't be this broke

[opal surge]

That is truly unfortunate

[next musk]

42 rolls 3770 rv

[rugged sparrow]

I have no usable 4p Shim

so 4p Glad is my next best

[next musk]

He is top1 on vape leaderboard rn and top2 on melt

[rugged sparrow]

I'm literally doing 2n5e just to maximize Glad

end me alrd

[next musk]

The guy that is top2 and top1 respectively still has his build called "worse mavuika"😭

Even our finest have fallen to slander

[opal surge]

did u craft no usable 4p

[rugged sparrow]

I crafted 2 sands

u don't wanna know how those sands turn out

[next musk]

I crafted my arle an 8 sub goblet and my nefer a em 4 liner so I am pretty happy

[opal surge]

I mean I know him he farmed just to ragebait on arle sub and arle discord

[next musk]

Have 5 potions right now

[opal surge]

I dont think he actually has any interest in playing arle

[next musk]

Yeah I saw him in jstern discord too couple times

[rugged sparrow]

@viral mulch u should also do what this guy does

[next musk]

Level 95 though

[rugged sparrow]

go ragebait on Neuvcord

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

agendaposting against Neuv is strong rn

[opal surge]

next patch will be better

[rugged sparrow]

amen

[viral mulch]

some akashascammer got my top 1 spot

[next musk]

The cn guy has 810/810/730/800/620 rv on his pieces

[rugged sparrow]

gg

[next musk]

Even if I painted myself some pieces I wouldnt be so brazen

[rugged sparrow]

reclaim it then agenda post

[next musk]

That gotta be a year of resin refreshing

[viral mulch]

mh in 2026

[rugged sparrow]

or rename ur Neuv build

"glorified hydro driver"

see how many ppl tilt

[next musk]

Why glorified

Neuvilette is balanced around his ability to apply hydro

[viral mulch]

nah making an acc for akasha is cring

[rugged sparrow]

ssshhh

we're agenda posting here

[rugged sparrow]

actually better idea

rename Neuv build into "worse Ayato"

[viral mulch]

its ok hes a sheet warrior 101 easy to gaslight

[next musk]

On earlier topic though, I genuinely dont get an argument for c0 5 stars being better than c1/r1 in terms of "fake team strength" or whatever

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

mualani better tbh

[rugged sparrow]

NEED A SURFB-

[viral mulch]

actually thats a bit too factual hmm

[rugged sparrow]

yeah

[next musk]

Obviously flexibility is nice but that is argument against any vertical investment not just "low cost scamming"

[viral mulch]

aino better wait no thats also true atp

[rugged sparrow]

LMFAOOOO

[next musk]

Genuinely what are you yapping about, its like 5th time

[rugged sparrow]

my hydro dragon looking homeless

[viral mulch]

wont be the last either

[opal surge]

its just an inherently accepted flaw of the cost system that its agnostic to 4*s

and shifting cost onto a single 5* always comes with introducing 4*s

[viral mulch]

i saw u sheet batchesting everything including the u cost run standards while barely clearing menacing u are not escaping the allegations

[opal surge]

that are not obtained passively

[rugged sparrow]

I feel almost called out

KD has done an irreparable dmg to my mental

[opal surge]

people also genuinely just have 5* supports they dont go out of their way to obtain them and teambuilding should have more nuance than atteempting to see how many 5*s can be removed

[next musk]

??? Seriously what

I clear menacing just fine, the one time I didnt was because I didnt bother after failing fearless

[neon wave]

how does it differ

[next musk]

I cant clear fearless because I am not good enough arle player nor well invested enough, and I dont have any other third team

[viral mulch]

nah i remember a message that i forgor exactly but it was like sheet increase is super important factor for whaling cons for characters or something like that

[opal surge]

well technically cost =/= gold

[rugged sparrow]

honestly based

[next musk]

"Whaling" was legit your and other guy's hallucination

[opal surge]

cost is actually usually cup dependant, but because EN has nearly no competitions cost just h as beocme a concept that people arent completely sure of what it means

[next musk]

I just said % increases are relevant, which they are

[opal surge]

like if u asked a random person, hey, is a standard weapon refine a cost

[viral mulch]

we talking the realm with 0 experience with this one 🗣️

[opal surge]

the answer is technically

[next musk]

If anything kqms sheets consistently overestimate vertical influence, people get lesser % increases against dummy with best builds

[opal surge]

well it depends ont he cup

[viral mulch]

yea see him saying kqms for whale stuff thats how we know hes the real one

[next musk]

Again, whaling was never in conversation there or now...

[neon wave]

gold as in...?

[viral mulch]

cn equivalent of cost

[next musk]

You and the other idiot kensi literally brought it up yourself then started circlejerking around it

[neon wave]

a

I see

[next musk]

I had never cared nor disscussed c4-c6 shit

[opal surge]

gold is a more stable set of cost rules

[viral mulch]

they use like 4金 like how we use 4 cost

[opal surge]

cost just fluctuaqtes in its meaning

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

for example I think ( i might be wrong) GIU treats BP weapons as half cost?

regardless of refine?

[rugged sparrow]

I think I remember similar thing

Bennett being 0.5 cost too

[next musk]

I can count in single digits how many times I had seen gold brought up in english and at least half of those were by chinese players seemingly google translating

It hasnt passed over really

[viral mulch]

ok sheet warrior keep saying nefer c6 is equal to escoffier c6 because they both have like 250% ish increase from c0 to c6 in sheets in which u never said that but it fits as something you would say one day so im keeping it as a canon event

[rugged sparrow]

c6 Escoff is 250%?

[next musk]

I know you had been ragebaiting all along but like at least try to be funny

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

im not sure exactly but ive seen smth similar somewhere

[rugged sparrow]

c6 Dehya is what, around 250% too no

[viral mulch]

technically c6 alone is like what x1.75 the total mv of e so

[rugged sparrow]

[next musk]

C6 % increases arent relevant not because le sheets are le bad but because enemies die in less than one rotation most of the time

And its not like agenda posters dont deny dummy tests and actual run feats just as much as they do sheets

[rugged sparrow]

er

[viral mulch]

then that wouldnt be ragebaiting that would be joybaiting

[next musk]

Its just excuse to push agenda

[viral mulch]

also its true that ur a sheet warrior anyway

[next musk]

I had almost entirely switched to dummychesting since milliastra

Legit running off of months old memes

[viral mulch]

how ppl think theyre in a better place now after migrating from genshin main to hsr main

[next musk]

Hsr meta is vibechesting

People arguing for months which of the 4 units that do zero cycles at same investment is actually goat and which is fraud

[viral mulch]

ofc bro too bricked into only thinking about the meta and sheets to understand

[rugged sparrow]

meanwhile ZZZ meta

[feral reef]

the less clothes the more dmh

[rugged sparrow]

real

[opal surge]

mfw when hp inflation is faster than powercreep

[rugged sparrow]

goonmaxxing

[viral mulch]

"wdym i have to actually play the gameplay of combat instead of looking at cells"

[opal surge]

wthelly

[rugged sparrow]

ZZZ hp inflation literally gapping its two sister games need to be studied

[opal surge]

im just glad ssaod didnt come back to dire with 25 million hp instead this time

[viral mulch]

watch as yalls equivalent of constellation suddenly having like 4 effects each when 3.x rolls out

[rugged sparrow]

imagine ZZZ

[next musk]

HSR might be in its fraud era if silverbrick releases as she is

[rugged sparrow]

"oh hey this boss was 100m last it showed up haha"

170m on returning

?

[opal surge]

Oh hey I killed this guy last time

-> 35k score

[next musk]

Do we use er sands on fork escoffier

[rugged sparrow]

got fraudchecked

[opal surge]

oh okay

[next musk]

Er is so scuff

[rugged sparrow]

it's an option ye

esp in SO

the struggle of Escoff in fraud cryo DPS teams (Skirk and Wrio)

wdym they generate fuckall particles and eats all of them at the same time

is this time to promote Ayaka

[viral mulch]

reminds me i cant even stop at 67 this cycle anymore cus i accidentally got 66

[rugged sparrow]

bricked

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I personally would. what cost would they assume instead?

[viral mulch]

now im at 65 actually nvm

i had to one up the gigawhale i matched like 50 times in genshin pvp

[rugged sparrow]

the ego battle

never gets old

[next musk]

Nah id burst

[viral mulch]

i also hit the highest tier of elo for genshin pvp today cus might as well i had to match some games for bp anw

[rugged sparrow]

ure enjoying MW a little too much

also did u see my Escoff pull results

[viral mulch]

im barely like lv35 or smth
i matched a lv100 today

[next musk]

might start grooming kids atp

[lyric cargo]

I do think comparing different teams at same cost is kinda flawed, if you're only looking at that one cost
like 8 cost forces to choose between c6r1 carry with no 5-star supports which is very
or getting the supports but stopping just shy of c6
that's just not a good stopping point

[viral mulch]

no

[rugged sparrow]

I wanna die

[rugged sparrow]

2 times missing Escoff

[next musk]

I think its also interesting that it forces those choices but yeah 5 cost and 9 cost is far more flexible than 4 or 8

[rugged sparrow]

my Wrio will forever be fraud

[next musk]

I am surprised arle is performing so well in both though

I might learn adhd combo if that revives her too

Idk though

If I didnt have nefer I would certainly help my arle up and wait for new dps

But I have nefer and skirk doing good and with potential to do even better

If I invest into arle I will be very reluctant to pull/build the fourth new carry

[viral mulch]

atp just solomaxx

[rugged sparrow]

I got artifact diff'd

[next musk]

I am hoping we would get a forward melt dps in Snezh

[viral mulch]

wait u cant do this second half or smth

[next musk]

If I invest into arle she will also hog bennett and citlali

[rugged sparrow]

no idea actually, havent attempted

[next musk]

Citlali who should be for skirk and bennett who might be needed for new carry

[viral mulch]

think it should be fine even with r1

[rugged sparrow]

who are on 2nd half again

pls tell me no wild hunt elites

[viral mulch]

the uh

mon fly

[rugged sparrow]

LMFAOOO

[viral mulch]

easy on bad words!

and grandma

[rugged sparrow]

I'm too unc to react to grandma

and cryo aura is gonna fuck up my timings

[viral mulch]

isok cryo makes her slower

[lyric cargo]

I think cryo archon taking the 4th slot in the future is a fair assumption. no way to know ofc
they could be on the melt team ofc

[viral mulch]

i ahvent done shit this cycle after the first like 2 days tho cus i fell sick

im still sick i cant even talk

[next musk]

The skirk cope era will begin when she will be fighting with mona and citlali for that 4th slot for tsaritsa hypercarry

[winged arch]

this is the most speedrunnable cycle in a while

[viral mulch]

hey its fuz

[next musk]

I used to think when pulling skirk and planning nefer that having my bennett "free" would be good for future

But now I am feeling its likely he will be entirely rendered irrelevant for me

If new carry I go for later is some full new team bundle nonsense

[opal surge]

c2r1 Arle overload (random example) is the same cost as c0r1 nefer, c0 bina, c0 lauma, sucrose

Calling the first 4 cost omits 3 units, calling the second 4 cost omits one, but you are just as incentivized to pull for chev and iansan cons here as you are to pull for bina and lauma

they are the same cost, but they are intrinsically not the same

[next musk]

Yeah but we can't let this common sense get in the way of agenda

[winged arch]

tried doing a continuous run
cant one rotate grandma with c0 skirk

[opal surge]

speedrunners also simply tend to pull every unit thats good anyways, so its not adding cost in the actual literal meaning

[winged arch]

so i malded one chamber

[opal surge]

and non speedrunners shouldnt concern themselves with cost

because it doesnt matter to them

[next musk]

But also its disregarding that for many people those characters are indeed free

[viral mulch]

mon fly

[lyric cargo]

ah, it's about 4-stars I see
(I have all relevant 4-stars at c6 already I think, but maybe there's a world where I wouldn't yet even with the way I pull)

[next musk]

I am one banner away from getting chev c6 with 0 effort and have iansan c2 with same

[winged arch]

i still dont know how i got that run

[next musk]

And c6 bennett obviously

[winged arch]

i kept hovering around 15-16

[opal surge]

the bottom line is if youre not a speedrunner and you use cost unironically to bat youre kind of a clown, and if you are a speedrunner you probably pull every good 5* anyway

and going into vertical is additional cost

[winged arch]

could do overseer but its cringe now with the initial stall and 12-3-2 runs are just

[opal surge]

because you were going horizontal anyway

[viral mulch]

what if i do full f12 no reset but i also mald for pma minion bug this time

[winged arch]

[lyric cargo]

(I use cost only to decide which teams to go for
and I substract what I already own, it's all about how much I'd need to spend)

[next musk]

Well it depends on what you mean by bat, cuz I feel like again you are disregarding that for many f2p or low spending people it is an actual investment dillema that cost helps solve

[opal surge]

no it doesnt

if a speedrunner can clear X at Y minimal cost in 118-120s then there are very few people that can replicate it at equal investment

it genuinely is a hyperniche that doesnt matter

minimal cost runs are cool to see what the best players on that character can do

[viral mulch]

does sensi got da jjk modulo panda in pfp

[opal surge]

theyre not good info to base your pulls on

I am the modulo panda natch

[viral mulch]

dam

[opal surge]

🐼

[viral mulch]

u might be quite old

2080s unc status

[next musk]

Sure but im more talking about dps that is generally more applicable than exact 115-120s breakpoint for specific bosses. For me it is actively relevant that arles verticals are much better than much more commonly advertised c0 xilonen or whatnot

And its also that im kinda resentful for as newbie having pulled a ton of bad 00 5 stars that were only slightly better than 4 star options cuz everyone was using misleading advice based on kqms

[opal surge]

xilonen is better than arle vertical if ur not actively trying for dire every SO

that is just true

advice is given based around fearless or abyss clears and its a much different story than dire advice

and it is given that way because fearless is a lot more relevant than dire is

[next musk]

I dont see how pulling option that gives me much less dps and I cant use in any other team anyway is better for me

[next musk]

Generalist supports/sub dps are less relevant than ever after skirk and lunarslop I feel like. I dont think xilonen gets me any of fearless clears I missed out but I know for a fact c1 would give me at least 2 and c1r1 another 2

Cuz they all were within 10-30% hp

[viral mulch]

the lion has lunar mode theater clears

with pink medal

[next musk]

Its funny that lunar is actually the only hard-ish roster check with primos

[rugged sparrow]

how is it funny when lunar is arguably the shillest genshin can be rn

[next musk]

I guess ironic is more fitting

[viral mulch]

bro prob gets 0 elixir per theater cycle very often anyway

[opal surge]

I dont want to be that guy but I think if you are regularly missing fearless clears you just have to sit out the discussions on account building for fearless it kinda turns the discussion into brainrot because youre also potential crafting instead of having anecdotal experience

[next musk]

I forget to do theatre half the time its so boring

[viral mulch]

bro is worse than the sticker i sent

[neon wave]

relax

[rugged sparrow]

I almost missed this cycle fearless clear...

KD shillchecked me

my c6 Wrio almost didnt save me

[viral mulch]

the poor overseer device

[opal surge]

For a lot of people xilonen provides a stable 4th slot option in a variety of teams that are good enough to clear fearless trivially

[rugged sparrow]

u saw what I used to clear SSAOD right

[next musk]

I am regularly missing the clears because I had barely touched arle since pulling skirk and I have to touch her to do it

[viral mulch]

i forgor ngl

[opal surge]

and fearless teams can genuinely just be complete brainrot

[rugged sparrow]

@viral mulch

feast ur eyes

[viral mulch]

o yea that

[opal surge]

yeah KD genuinely sucks

[viral mulch]

now i rember

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

I think the mushroom is actually more frustrating than KD though

KD just is too tanky

the mushroom is just annoying to play

[viral mulch]

mandragora is automatically the worst one for me

[rugged sparrow]

I hate when it does the

unlimited bounce attack

[next musk]

KD would roster check me but I had accidentally pulled ineffa

So I just have to raise her up

[rugged sparrow]

shill ✅

[viral mulch]

wait i showed yall my clear right

[rugged sparrow]

I think so

[viral mulch]

ye

[next musk]

I cleared menacing kd in 90s, replaced nahida with naked ass ineffa and it took 40

[rugged sparrow]

I just rmb ur Mandragora taking 20 years

[next musk]

This entire mod is brainrot

[viral mulch]

yea fuck that shi

[rugged sparrow]

get 200% res'd idiot

[next musk]

I didnt even have deepwood for nefer

[viral mulch]

300

[rugged sparrow]

HAHAHAHAH

[next musk]

I will put her on deepwood actually and see if I can get through it just like this

Without any talents

[rugged sparrow]

fearless btw

[viral mulch]

hypothetically if i maldmaxx + start every run at full 2:00 timer i can get it to like 62~63s

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

but i dont wanna do that anymore

having sub 30s on mandragora is fine ill take it

[rugged sparrow]

is it a sign to build crit Llama

[viral mulch]

dps lauma lesgo better than zybau

[next musk]

Using free ayaka is crazywork

[rugged sparrow]

ar42 free Ayaka real

[next musk]

Wait how tf do I not have er sands on golden troupe

Bruh

Back to noblesse escoffier goes

why noblesse bruh

could at least have er instead of em would be perfect coffee peice

no er but muh cv

[lyric cargo]

I try to hyperoptimize, delaying theater because it gives 1 transient resin which i want to use on stygian
this next time I'll only have to wait like 5 days after it comes out, but there might be times I'm waiting almost a month

I could well miss it because of that, some day ^^

[next musk]

I have odd depressive episodes and when they coincide badly I miss out on theatre on on stygian outbreak period

I missed like 2 theatres and 2 outbreaks that way

[lyric cargo]

theater is never very fun, tbh
playing it optimally means clearing every act with the weakest team that can arguably clear it

[next musk]

I generally delay theatre till last week so when it hits out of timing its gg

I think I missed this outbreak and last theatre and 3 months ago

[lyric cargo]

I think I used to delay theater before it started giving transient resin

[next musk]

what goblet stat does ineffa want

[lyric cargo]

now I have to do it before stygian farming ends, to use it

[lyric cargo]

atk%

I'm sure you know this site, but good link to bookmark (I usually check here):
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[next musk]

lets look at this

[next musk]

I had been there once

I generally look at various pretc of characters I will actually pull

ineffa is just one I didnt intend to have so idrc

lets see how this one goes

[next musk]

fucking widsith away hell naw

I got the hang of it I think

though there is probably some tech im missing to kill those stupid ducklings faster

and to do lauma hE

[lyric cargo]

my winning run happend to leave one of the mini ducklings alive while I sat up the next rotation, not sure if that made the difference

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1478720971727835317/Zibai_vs_fearless_Duck.mp4?ex=69a96db8&is=69a81c38&hm=98a260d4d1c5ad84ec122152dd4b341166f0b26aa40c2884507eadc51b5ab141&

it was c1r1 Zibai though, felt better than my c0r1 Nefer + c0 Lauma + c2 Nahida

[next musk]

I am currently doing Nefer E>Columbina E>Ineffa E>Columbina 2 CA (2nd fav proc) Q> Lauma N1> Columbina CA spam until next ult

columbina second ult comes right as ducks die

followed by lauma qhE>ineffa e>nefer shit

[lyric cargo]

maybe part of it is that c1 Zibai has more frontload

[lyric cargo]

so first rotation without Lauma E? interesting

[next musk]

aw

[next musk]

there is no point doing nefer rotation on ducklings i think?

dendro just stops lunarcharges and lunar charges kill ducklings faster than nefer does

[lyric cargo]

2 downs? breaking the shield twice?

[next musk]

ye

I get 2 nefer rotations in first break, I think I might get 2 and half

[lyric cargo]

I was able to do it in one and prevent it from re-shielding, not sure how far from that you are

I probably have higher vertical

[next musk]

I use lauma n1s to maintain dews as ineffa and columbina duo the ducks

I am definitely playing this wrong

this is probably doable without ineffa in the first place

[lyric cargo]

Ineffa probably breaks the shield faster?

[next musk]

if you can play nefer for 200k dps you probably bruteforce shields faster than lvl70 ineffa on deepwood set does

iirc ducklings are lunar charge damage, not app?

[lyric cargo]

can check how others played it, I guess?
I think I linked the one clear I saw already, though

[next musk]

you linked to me arle clear I believe that had some other team on second side but I am unable to check it rn

[lyric cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dVu2d1SIUqU
nvm that's not with Ineffa so different approach

[next musk]

is there a way to check notifications on pc

[lyric cargo]

this could also be a consideration?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QwiEtbf8SN4

[lyric cargo]

notification history? there should be

[next musk]

yeah im thinking thats waaaay too much damage for me on nefer

and its r1

I will try some more

[next musk]

he's driving it with sucrose so its not that helpful

[lyric cargo]

should be this? (red circle, top-right)

this is the browser version, I don't have the desktop client

[next musk]

damn I waffled rotation right in the end, I had it

I shuffled back and forth like 3 swaps

nefer would get third E out and burst and probably grab it

this time the dumbass ran away straight other side of arena right as rotation came off tikes

[next musk]

aaaaa

[winged arch]

you are onfielding nefer and lauma after killing the mini bots right

dendro aura messes up lc procs on the mini bots

[next musk]

Yes

[drowsy shuttle]

how do you even lose with this team-

[lyric cargo]

losing, or time running out?

genshin endgame content doesn't really kill you

the duck is pretty aggressive,

but if it gets a kill on you it's likely because you're under so much time pressure you're trying to dodge as little as possible

[quartz trellis]

Can someone help me explore sumeru

I need 175 sumeru sigils

[viral mulch]

skill issue

[next musk]

Ineffa isn't built

[vernal bane]

Is this dire?

[next musk]

This is Hard🤠

[vernal bane]

bro… really…?

[next musk]

Its fearless

[vernal bane]

oh phew

[vernal bane]

Definitely a build issue then lol

[next musk]

She's on deepwood and fav kek

My deepwood set has exactly zero er subs so I cannot put Lauma on it and give her 2p2p

[quaint fern]

Erm

[hazy lotus]

ineffa moral support

[neon harness]

[violet cipher]

I'm having trouble against this boss in fearless. Could it be a skill issue or damage issue?

[strange scarab]

hy girlypop did you pull anyone recently

[neon harness]

on arknights?

nah, i deleted it to make space for endfield

😭

any fun banners?

i might redownload or find some way to play it again

[strange scarab]

no not yet

mantra is on banner but shes not so meta but not so bad

[neon harness]

[strange scarab]

shes a nuker paired with tragodia

also theres gonna be pramanix alt and silverash alt

[neon harness]

lemme go check what she looks like

[strange scarab]

and then another sui sibling banner in 5 months

[neon harness]

ah shes standard, yea skip

[neon harness]

r they good at all

[strange scarab]

i heard they are. not sure what they do tho

[neon harness]

cant wait

[strange scarab]

yea we got 2 suiblings revealed recently

[neon harness]

ah hell nah

[strange scarab]

but only one of them is coming soon

[neon harness]

im so broke

[strange scarab]

the one coming is Wang

2nd brother i think

[neon harness]

the first sui sibling specialist

[neon harness]

time to start farming again

[neon harness]

did u buy any of the collab skins

[strange scarab]

no, they look good but theyre not rlly my favs

so far ive only bought skin for necrass, degen, wisadel, ines, ascalon

just those

[neon harness]

ooh the narantuya skin looks pretty, same for mitm

.

Did u buy this thing? I might

[strange scarab]

wait narantuya getting a skin??

[strange scarab]

HOOOLY SHIITT

How did i miss this???

[neon harness]

lololol

[strange scarab]

I HAVE ITTT

[neon harness]

Lowkey the one I wanted most anyways

[strange scarab]

HAHAHA

[neon harness]

forgot that ticket existed lowkey

[uneven merlin]

guys

should i just c6 bennet

i’m a 1.0 player idk bro i’m nervous

[neon harness]

C6

[violet cipher]

What's Nefer's best weapon here?

current stats if that helps

[lyric cargo]

the only real reason not to would be if you respect physical dpses to come back in a big way, and want him on their teams

most infusions they make now say "can't be overridden", so it only affects older chars like Chongyun / Keqing / etc

[uneven merlin]

bro idk the tsaritsa better not be hiding 50% puts buffs

phys*

[lyric cargo]

who knows! maybe physical has been bad so far because they were saving it for the cryo region 😆

they could also go with something like faction mechanics rather than specific reaction focus

[hollow cape]

Is it worth getting any of the blackcliff weapons?

[glad sable]

guys, can you help me with characters for SO radish boss?

[strange scarab]

dont ask to ask just send your roster

[lyric cargo]

is there a quick way to get a try-on cape that counts without investing much?

[rugged sparrow]

Try-On Cape apparently expires like few weeks into the patch

so rip

[lyric cargo]

as for the pass, I don't think I'm reaching level 8 before the 12d 15h end
I'm not using the test dummy often enough to progress far on the pass

I don't even know if the lvl8 pass reward would count

[crude dirge]

free horse counts as set pretty sure

[lyric cargo]

"from the current season", though?
I'll try it when I next log into genshin, if I remember

[crude dirge]

i didnt pay attention to recent events so idk

[rugged sparrow]

horse doesnt work

[lyric cargo]

so basically we get it for free but only near the start? I see

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[lyric cargo]

do the outfits from "standard" wishes count, or only the limited ones?

because I don't think f2p has any way of getting the limited fates, unlike in the main game

[opal surge]

Only limited I'm pretty sure

The try on was the way to get it as f2p I guess

Fwiw the dummy stage counted for this mission

[lyric cargo]

ye, I saw that. Just never bothered with the try-on stuff until now

well, time to give negative feedback on the next form

[opal surge]

I didn't know the try on doesn't last the entire patch cycle

Thats silly

[fiery harbor]

Can anyone help me level up tighnari? Hes currently level 70 and im ar 45

[safe spruce]

i like both kinich and mavuika who should i pull

i dont have any dendro characters other than dendro mc

i have durin and Father

or i can get escof for skirk

but id prefer kinich or mavuika

[lyric cargo]

from a meta perspective, Kinich is very skippable
Mavuika is meta, but if you already have Arle you kinda have pyro shill content covered
Escoffier would be the most recommendable, if you already have Skirk then you're kinda committed

if you care about overworld movement, I can recommend Mavuika

[safe spruce]

these are the characters i got

currently im building Charlotte and chevy

then iansan

[earnest gale]

Durin works with kinich as he can shred dendro resistance

[lyric cargo]

you're already kinda covered as far as on-fielders are concerned
your best pulls would be the supports
to actually make the good teams
(Ineffa for Flins, likely Linnea for Zibai, Escoffier for Skirk)

[safe spruce]

meta isnt a concern

i want to pull characters that i like but also usefull in other ways and looks cool

[lyric cargo]

that leaves the question of what is a concern?
because if it's just personal preference and how chars look, we can't exactly give advice on that

useful in other ways: overworld movement?

[safe spruce]

yeah

also like what if there is a dendro base boss that deff needs burgeon or some niech mechanic like that

like an example a nightsoul dps

i see some enemies take nightsoul mechanic to over come

should i try to get anyone for bloom reactions ?

if so who would you suggest

[lyric cargo]

that's meta, isn't it?

well, it's not about the boss being in stygian fearless I guess?

so abyss, theater, overworld?

[safe spruce]

yeah

[safe spruce]

yes

[lyric cargo]

idk, the optimal choices for that are still the same as for stygian
just requires more investment

[safe spruce]

aight

at this point my only option is to go pokemon mode

😭

[hollow cape]

From To Temper Thyself and Journey Far, should I get C1 Itto or C1 Albedo?

I wanted at first to get C1 Ganyu and somewhat use her as a support for Wrio

[lament folio]

Haiii can someone help me find the last lunoculus ? I cannot find it even with the lvl 3 compass (i also already did all the quests) :<

[lyric cargo]

I'd look up the unofficial interactive map (it has comments from many other users on each map item)
hide everything else besides lunoculi, and go through them one by one

I don't think there's any better method, if you haven't been using an interavtive map from the start
if the compass doesn't show it, and there's no resonance stone, the only way should be to get near it

[lament folio]

oww okeii tyyy

i found itt, it was behind this guy...

[opal surge]

[tough fiber]

Hello!! What stats should I be aiming for on C0R1 Zibai?

[fringe bear]

if you have illuga c6 aim for 60 crit rate, if not 70 crit rate max (with her set you will have 100)
and 200+ crit damage, or as high as you can get

[lyric cargo]

crit and def%

take all your buffs into account and don't overcap crit rate

1 : 2 crit ratio is always ideal, until crit rate caps at 100%

her artifact set gives 30% CR, so usually that'll mean 100% CR and > 200% CD

[lyric cargo]

seems c0 Illuga gives 5% CR and 10% CD? so 70% would overcap?

c6 gives 10% cr and 30% cd instead

[fringe bear]

my bad, I thought he does not provide any crit at c0) you are correct, 65 crit rate then*

[earnest gale]

thats his passive of giving 5% cr, 10% CD

[crude snow]

R there any genshin collabs going on irl? My mom's in china and I can probably convince her to go to macdonalds or something

[earnest gale]

genshin wonderland in beijing. I know there's KFC or mcdonald? collab with genshin in South Korea

[valid anchor]

Dunno about the collab in South Korea. You need to check Genshin South Korea official SNS.

About China, well, you know any code you get inside China will be for the Chinese Genshin, not for the international edition.

[tough fiber]

Tkx for the answers, but what about EM? I currently have 53:305 crit with 2.352 def and 206 EM(not counting buffs from her passive)

[fringe bear]

Don't worry about em, it's a secondary stat, if you are choosing between em and def persent - def % would be prefferable, and crits are the most important ofc

[lyric cargo]

EM is about as good as flat defense from what I've heard

[tough fiber]

Oh ok, tysm for all the input!!!

[earnest gale]

illuga's passive also gives teamwide's EM

[lyric cargo]

I believe that's part of why EM isn't as good. diminishing returns.

[opal surge]

illuga doesnt give em

wait no he gives 50

but em just isnt a good stat to begin with for zibai

its not like diluted

[lyric cargo]

you get:

• 80 from 2pc Sky set
• 120 from 4pc Silken Moon on a teammate
• 120 from 4pc Instructor on a teammate

am I forgetting anything? (I probably am)

oh, Zibai passive

Other Geo party members increase Zibai's DEF by 15% each. Hydro party members increase her Elemental Mastery by 60 each.

[tough fiber]

Tkx, this will surely help me upgrade my build!!

[earnest gale]

but DEF/ crit value is always first priority for my zibai. EM is extra

[fiery harbor]

Yo guys, i just returned form genshin, and im contemplwting whether who to main/build, yelan or tighnari? Right now they basically have the same stat

[fiery harbor]

Here is my characters

[lyric cargo]

for overworld, Hutao Yelan Sayu could be good.

(Sayu doubles as a taxi, her skill helps you get to places. Yelan's can be used while Sayu's is on cooldown, but it has shorter duration so Sayu's would be my default.)

[fiery harbor]

Is this for travel or also for bosses and monsters?

[lyric cargo]

for bosses and monsters, it would depend on which one

but in general you should be able to do combat with that yeah

you can pick the 4th unit based on what the puzzles in the area you're exploring require

or based on the enemies, I guess

[fiery harbor]

Ohh okay, thanks, im still gonna use my currect team while i grind for their recources, im currently using tighnari, nahida, fisch and kazuha(or others, depends on what im gonna fight)

[opal surge]

what does flins even do

[feral reef]

aura farm

[earnest gale]

invite you to his graveyard

[bright cape]

looks like others are more invested than flins

he is very replaceable in that team.

[balmy cove]

So I’m using Akasha to see how good my Durin build is, but his icon in the “Top %” bracket isn’t even coming up. Does anyone know why this is?