📌gimshim-help

[lyric cargo]

for the combo, there's apparently another variation you can do
the intial part stays:

E → N4 N4 → e e → N1

If there's hydro aura, the N1 triggers a reaction and get your next e.
If not, then there's a backup plan.

And you can kinda do the same input regardless: Press e and Q at the same time.

If your e isn't ready, this will use Q. Then you e → N4 e.

If e is ready, apparently it prioritizes using that. Then you N1 Q e

it's probably easier in practice

--
E → N4 N4 → e e → N1 [eQ] → ??

[[did we just burst?]]
→ yes: e → N4 e
→ no: N1 Q e

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-lord-star-lord-did-we-just-lose-star-lord-did-we-just-true-star-lord-did-we-just-win-did-we-just-lose-gif-7704850861712378939

[opal surge]

Zibai combo doesn't really matter that much, it's not a mavuika situation where the gain is substantial, it's mostly just to make the character more comfy to play

But as far as I'm aware this is the best we came up with so far

Bina EQ > Illuga EQ > Gorou E > Zibai N4d N4E E Q N4E N1E > Bina E > Illuga EQ > Gorou EQ > Zibai 4N4E > repeat

[lyric cargo]

yh, it's just faster - same damage?

whether that's actually more dps depends on how much field time the other chars want to take?

if her cooldowns aren't ready for the next rotation, then a shorter rotation isn't a dps gain

[calm lagoon]

best neuvi team?

[lyric cargo]

I heard that instead of EQ on Gorou, you'd rather funnel the particles to Zibai
even if it means Gorou doesn't burst that rotation

I think that's assuming you use Zibai burst instead of N4 whenever possible, though

[calm lagoon]

nobody answered

[calm lagoon]

dude u just said sm help me out

[lyric cargo]

didn't see it before, was forcused on answering Sensi's message

it's rough, there's no Furina or Columbina
there's Ororon, Fischl, and then I guess a VV user like Sucrose / Lan Yan

[opal surge]

Gorou can't burst every rotation but his funnel is also not meaningful

[lyric cargo]

fav + skill particles both funnelled?

[opal surge]

It won't make zibai burst every

She too far from it

Outside of this dog shill boss giving her energy for it with Illuga funnel

[calm lagoon]

ororon fischl both offfield elec dps lan yan shield neuvi dps

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it's basically every 1.5 or 1.7 or whatever
more often than every other rotation but less than every rotation from what I heard

[lyric cargo]

Oro and Fischl are alternatives, yeah. not both

[calm lagoon]

just say the team

i have no idea who to pick

my current choice is neuvi aino fischl and lan yan

[calm lagoon]

good?

[hexed mango]

Is this fine guys?

[lyric cargo]

there isn't really a great option I think
maybe Venti, Ororon, Fischl
or Venti, Fischl, Kachina

[hexed mango]

Best f2p account

[lyric cargo]

thing is, this is assuming your off-field dps are built

Venti appears to be one of the chars you have built?

[calm lagoon]

so what im using is neuvi xingqiu fischl venti

[lyric cargo]

you could also use Sucrose for VV, if Venti is on the new hex set rather than holding VV

[calm lagoon]

ion wanna build my ororon

[lyric cargo]

is this for overworld? I'd use Sayu for movement

[hexed mango]

Yeah kinda?

[lyric cargo]

Iansan could be good for buffing Fischl (she'll snapshot the buff)

[hexed mango]

But i will wish for flins soon

[calm lagoon]

flins is long gone

[hexed mango]

Traveler will say byebye if i got hik

[lyric cargo]

Fischl, Lan Yan are decent
and lacking other hydro options, Aino should be reasonable
especially if you have the event claymore

[calm lagoon]

fr?

[hexed mango]

Yea

[calm lagoon]

i thought like in a year

he was just like 4 banners ago

[hexed mango]

O

[calm lagoon]

i gotta save up now waaaa

[hexed mango]

I googled and checked tiktok vids

[calm lagoon]

tiktok lol

[hexed mango]

I got 4,2k primo gems with 6 widh

I got 54 pity

[calm lagoon]

i got less than 100 and no pity

[hexed mango]

I kinda need 3k primo gems

Ty

[calm lagoon]

maybe ill get it on a 1 pull like neuvi

btw can u help

[hexed mango]

K

[calm lagoon]

i need lvl 70 mr neuvi

[hexed mango]

Btw i got diluc for my 1st ever wish

[lyric cargo]

the first rerun is usually before the region the char released in ends
unless they released late into the region

[calm lagoon]

but the boss takes hours

[hexed mango]

I need lvl 70 on fischl

[calm lagoon]

what ar are u

[hexed mango]

Ar34 europe

[calm lagoon]

i can help

id?

[hexed mango]

Not rn tho

786630102

[calm lagoon]

k ping me when u can

[hexed mango]

Send req

Ty

[calm lagoon]

ok

[hexed mango]

The real work here is aino tbh

[zinc gull]

Is Mona better with prototype Amber or Thrilling Tales for Skirk?

[hexed mango]

I need a healerr help

[young glen]

Barbara

Or qiqi

[quaint fern]

what are you even trying to do there

[balmy cove]

What supports should I invest in based on the 5* characters I own?

[lyric cargo]

Flins: Ineffa, Columbina, Durin
Mualani: Mona, Sucrose, Pyro Traveler

for the rest, I'd rather pull new teams than trying to make older on-fielders work

[lyric cargo]

Flins with Durin could maybe use Fischl over Ineffa if you want to save a 5-star pull 🤔
not sure

[neon harness]

u

[lyric cargo]

is this still for overworld? if so, sayu can cover healing and movement

[violet cipher]

So for Mualani team is c6 Mona/Sucrose. Normally I use Mavuika for 4th but I'm using her on the Stygian Onslaught boss who doesn't seem to want a pyro carry. I don't have Xilonen but I do have Kazuha and Citlali. What should I use as a 4th slot?

[young glen]

xiangling probably

[violet cipher]

I mean I can use Mavuika, it’s just that it seems like nobody uses a pyro character here. So idk what else to use

Like I can’t use Xilonen cause I don’t have her and it looks like Mavuika does nothing

[quaint fern]

No xilo?

Oh yeah probably just kazuha if he's free

[violet cipher]

I have sucrose already so I’m not sure that’s my best option. I do have his weapon though so maybe it’s my best bet?

[quaint fern]

Well who else do you have?

I don't really know mualani teams too much myself

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message I got all this (account hasn’t changed since then). Skirk/furina/escof/shenhe and Nefer/Lauma Columbia/Nahida are all in use

[quaint fern]

Is your Skirk not enough for the crab?

I'm sure you can mavuika the shocktrooper

[violet cipher]

Chev isn’t c6 and I haven’t practiced the Mavuika combos that well. I didn’t really try Skirk against the crab.

[quaint fern]

Yeah idk, maybe just scroll kachina

[lyric cargo]

pyro traveler is best afaik

oh, for crab

[quaint fern]

Yeah it's weird

You already have 2nd hydro and anemo

You really just want someone for scroll I think

Or someone who can proc instructors

[lyric cargo]

I used c6 Diona with instructor to buff Neuv in an Escoffier team

maybe someone like that, with EM buff, who can hold instructor on top of it?

or is someone already on inst

[violet cipher]

I could try that, ty

[violet cipher]

should this and c6 Mona get me through the crab boss along with Sucrose? Been trying but haven't quite figured out rotations

so dk if rotation is the issue or more

[quaint fern]

looks fine to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

you probably want to focus more on the routing and learn how to manipulate the crab AI

[pliant hemlock]

Any1 on Asia server can help me defeat the lone wolf after destroying the ancestral form only once

[uneven wing]

erm sos help with my childe brothers dmg sucks so bad im wondering if its cause of his atk

how i feel maining childe even tho meta is killing me and he keeps getting new bis

[uneven wing]

I JUST REALIZED HIS EM IS LEGIT 0???

[young glen]

I will get varka...

[crude dirge]

how much damage does flins lose without ineffa if i use bina

[feral reef]

i think it works so that you can have aino ineffa and flins bina and those are 2 viable cores

so bina must be good

i think shes about the same but dont quote me on that

[thin current]

guys does chest unopened get updated in tevyats interactive map?

[crude dirge]

u have to manually mark everything

[thin current]

i am at 98% , followed a tutorial 2 times , wasted literally 3-4 hours and can't find those chests 🫡

[crude dirge]

thats why u dont pick up anything before opening interactive map

[thin current]

if i mark it in the map and reopen the map later will it still be marked?

[crude dirge]

yeah

[thin current]

can i know few chest locations that might have been missed because it's too hard to find in starfell valley?, if you remember , i will checkout those first

[crude dirge]

look into every mark on the map if u seek 100%

are u using the official one

[thin current]

yes

[crude dirge]

use unofficial

[thin current]

link please

[young glen]

Now that varkas kit got released what is best arti set

[thin current]

the exploration percentage is only based on collection of these 3 right....? i am using the unofficial map genie one

[neon wave]

kit isn't released

[neon wave]

No it includes seelies, puzzles, sigils, oculi and similar collectibles, etc.

[crude dirge]

probably hexerei?

[thin current]

so the chests from seelies are not marked when selecting the chests option? i have to click on seelies as well?

[neon wave]

indeed

[thin current]

i think that the last few percentage is because of something other than chests then, like the shrines of depths etc

[young glen]

Didnt the program cover everything

[thin current]

oh man

[crude dirge]

maybe oculi? not sure if they count

[crude dirge]

program never covers every detail of kit

[young glen]

True ig

[neon wave]

Livestream has 0 numbers

surely we can math out the kit from that

[crude dirge]

i know how much damage he does

-# ||enough||

[drowsy shuttle]

What are the current best durin teams?

[valid anchor]

oculi does count for exploration progress.

[thin current]

it counts!?!?

ok i got it then , i did not collect oculi

🥀

[valid anchor]

yah, you can't reach 100% exploration by just collecting chest, especially in areas like Dragonspine.

well, in Dragonspine, you only need to collect 80 crimson agate (the rest are given by quests)

[thin current]

What about starfell valley

I am at 97%

Just checked

[neon wave]

Didn't I send a full list of what counts above

[thin current]

Didn't read properly

[valid anchor]

Areas which doesn't depend of oculi (like Enkanomiya) you need to clear chests, time trials, and some hidden items.

Areas which depends of oculi (most of the open world) you need oculi as a secodary priority. And yes, @neon wave sent a full list of what is counted above. Sadly, you can't click them

Most of us are perma-banned (or with a legal caution) from maincord

[neon wave]

well you can still see the message I assume

[valid anchor]

yeah, just can't click it, because it throws me the you're perma-banned warning.

[thin current]

nvm i can't find any oculi

[lyric cargo]

is lvl8 statue + 0 Oculi left over the max right now?

[thin current]

and yeah i found one oculi here

found 2 oculi and it increased by 2% 🫡 🔥

@neon wave @valid anchor yayyy, maybe 1 more oculi left

[neon wave]

yis

[valid anchor]

current cap, yes. 2 levels + 1 extra lunoculus to be available in future patches.

[thin current]

100% let's gooo

it was the oculi

[winged bluff]

yo anyway i can build traveller as a solid dps or support cuz i lowkey wanna have her on my team cuz of that new skin

[crude dirge]

pyro traveler can be dps(c6, obsidian codex), support/sub dps(scroll)

[winged bluff]

any team comp ideas?

[crude dirge]

pmc bennet yelan xilonen?

[winged bluff]

sounds good any replacement for xilonen?

got the other 2

[crude dirge]

kazuha

[winged bluff]

maybe furina?

oh

[crude dirge]

or furina idk

res shred is good

[finite parrot]

Have anyone tried beniffa wheelchair with Pyro or Cryo characters? How is it?

[lyric cargo]

note that 100% usually isn't actually everything

it's scaled so players don't go insane trying to find the last chests, I guess

this is mondstadt exploration?

common chests in most Mond areas don't actually give primogems

so grinding for actually everything is maybe not the best

[lyric cargo]

as dps, it's not really viable

as support, it's viable precisely in Mualani teams afaik

maybe Varesa teams? But we have Durin there now, which should be strictly better

[lyric cargo]

Hutao can use it

but nothing performs as well as Flins Ineffa Bina Surcrose

[winged bluff]

lowkey i m js hopping cryo mc will have some potential

[safe spruce]

is 40 cr enough on zibai with hod

gonna run zibai illuga xinque zongli

[calm lagoon]

no u need 100%

[safe spruce]

i mean on nights set and harbinger weapon

[calm lagoon]

exactly

[alpine marten]

which is better on arlecchino? here's the stats while using the current equipment

[lyric cargo]

make sure to include all the buffs when you calculate your crit ratio

30% from sky's unveiling
28% from Harbinger of Dawn
10% from c6 Illuga, if you have

[safe spruce]

42 crits base + 30(nights set) + 28(with zhongli shield and harbinger)

[lyric cargo]

pre c6, he gives 5% cr and 10% cd I believe?
c6 increases that to 10% and 30%

[safe spruce]

thinking for running zibai with c2 aino c2 illuga and zongli

[lyric cargo]

so no Illuga at all?

[safe spruce]

or is gorou better?

[lyric cargo]

I think he still gives 5%?

[safe spruce]

ohh that adds 5%

ho 105%

[lyric cargo]

compared to Zhongli? afaik, yes. But it would give you less uptime on HoD? So probably not

[lyric cargo]

at least from what I can see by looking at his passive

[safe spruce]

i already have 242 cd on lvl 40

[lyric cargo]

for cd, you kinda just want as much as possible

it doesn't really matter how much you have

unless you're in the rare situation where def% is better

[safe spruce]

if she gets 38 rate on ascension then i get 280 cd total

[lyric cargo]

(obviously still go for the pieces with the highest number of useful subs. one roll of crit dmg isn't better than two other useful rolls)

[safe spruce]

i missed cr rolls a lot

other than er and em i got only flat stat rolls

[sour abyss]

Switch to the crit rate one.

[drowsy shuttle]

@lyric cargo what does C1 flins do? im a bit confused

[lyric cargo]

afaik it's cooldown reduction for his main damage source

but maybe ask someone else how that actually works, I didn't spend much time looking at Flins

[drowsy shuttle]

Yh i checked now

It allows him to do 3 mini bursts in one rotation which translates to more dps

I was wondering if i should attempt pulling for flins c1 after getting his weapon

Especially if the banner is good

[young glen]

Pssstt

Pull for varka

[lyric cargo]

generally it's better to get a wider char pool before investing deeply

[lyric cargo]

I'd wait until the full kit is known before deciding something like that

[young glen]

Varka looks too cool to skip

[drowsy shuttle]

Im f2p.. unlikely

I was even lucky enough to get ineffa columbina and their sigs in one ptch

[lyric cargo]

especially if f2p, a wider char pool is better

you need 2 teams for abyss and 3 teams for stygian
that will increase your primogem income

also 28 chars of every 3 elements for theater, but that's likely further off

[drowsy shuttle]

Oh-

[drowsy shuttle]

Omgg

[lyric cargo]

actually getting to 28 will take a long time, my account is over 3 years old and just roughly at that point

but the more you get, the higher the theater stage you can enter

[lyric cargo]

the chars also need to be at least lvl70 for theater, which has cost me a lot of char exp books

I suppose one upside to pulling constellations is they don't cost resources
but it's still not a great idea until you have 3 good teams imo

[drowsy shuttle]

My account is 3 years old too but i took like a 1yr break

Hence why most of my characters are underdeveloped

[drowsy shuttle]

How do i do this?

[shadow gazelle]

black magic. i couldnt figure it out

HuTaoShrug

[lyric cargo]

it's a website I'm working on, not live yet

progress depends on my time and motivation

[shadow gazelle]

oh i thought it was what ever you were doing before XD

[lyric cargo]

using a userscript to group the chars like that on hoyo's own website? nah

[shadow gazelle]

yh thats what i thought that was

[lyric cargo]

https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html

I didn't remember they use a 6-column layout 🤔

it looks like this with my changes

[bright cape]

@lyric cargo how is Vortex vanquisher higher than pjws for escoffier?

[lyric cargo]

I'm not sure
the bottom list says they're similar at low ER reqs

but the choice between them wouldn't affect ER

[drowsy shuttle]

Omg u took my information

Jk

Most of my important 4* arent even C 6

[lyric cargo]

if you look at the detailed weapon calc sheets they link below that
the Low ER sheet shows them head to head (less than 2% difference)

the high ER sheet doesn't seem to have PJWS at all 🤔

[lyric cargo]

so I assume your teams are:

• Flins, Ineffa, Bina, Sucrose
• Arle, Durin, Chevreuse, Fischl
• Chasca, Mona, Bennett, ..

hmm, Arle using Fischl and Durin actually makes it tricky to find a Chasca team

[drowsy shuttle]

Its arle xq kazuha and bennett but ive been testing out arle durin chevreuse and fischl lately

[lyric cargo]

so I guess it's this instead:

• Flins, Ineffa, Bina, Sucrose
• Arle, Bennett, [Xilonen], [Citlali/Yelan]
• Chasca, Mona, Durin, Fischl

[lyric cargo]

yh, I guess Xq Kaz works
just longer cooldowns on Xq than you'd like

[drowsy shuttle]

Yh

[lyric cargo]

but idk if it's worth getting Yelan. I guess you'd rather consider Citlali

Cit is also a good option for Chasca

[drowsy shuttle]

Her rerun being

[hazy lotus]

i assume atk% is just that valuable in mono cryo/hydro teams assuming you can still keep a good ratio

[bright cape]

thanks. i can finally finish my skirk team. found out this team barely crosses 60k

[drowsy shuttle]

And what’s the purpose of mono element teams? They lowkey do no dmg

[hazy lotus]

they do no damage until hoyo decides to releases a support specifically to make them do damage without reactions

[drowsy shuttle]

😭

@hazy lotus whats a good f2p weapon for durin

[hazy lotus]

what do you have

if you have it lions roar for overload and fontaine craftable otherwise i would guess

[drowsy shuttle]

Is there any way to check online

[hazy lotus]

apparently this thing from a nodkrai quest is okay but generally a little worse too if you don’t wanna craft a sword

[hazy lotus]

i think they have a google doc for build recs pinned in here or something lol or u could check kqm and see if they have a guide for the char ur looking for

[lyric cargo]

yeah, mono teams aren't really viable at the moment

the closest thing we have to that is teams with 2 elements that don't really have a strong reaction
they use a strong support that's locked to that reaction
Escoffier (freeze)
Chevreuse (overload)

[lyric cargo]

this one?
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[drowsy shuttle]

Thanks because i have a lvl 80 lions road R3 just checkigg if it was good

Also my durin does like 2k in his burst im a bit concerned @lyric cargo @hazy lotus

[glacial knoll]

Can anyone help me decide what to pull on the upcoming banner (Flins/Skirk/Esco)?

[versed marsh]

flins needs nod krai units
skirk needs esco for best performance
flins would be better meta wise- even with aino he can dish out pretty well dmg n if u hab other nod krai 5 star units then da better

[lyric cargo]

post a screenshot of your char pool if possible

can't really give advice in a vaccum

[lyric cargo]

(they should get rid of the menu not showing levels)

[lyric cargo]

seems you don't have a nod-krai 5-star yet, so any of the three Columbina teams could be decent
(Zibai Illuga / Flins Ineffa / Nefer Lauma)

the Skirk + Esco banner is good if you have the wishes to get both
if you can only get one of them, it's less interesting

also note that Skirk will want Furina, Neuv would have to find another team

[glacial knoll]

So Flins?

[lyric cargo]

I'd say Zibai if you have the wishes now
Ineffa just had her rerun, so assembling the Flins team will take a while

you can choose any of the three, just a question of how long it'll take to get a full team

Bina will take a little in either case

[glacial knoll]

I was heavily considering Flins since he is very strong even without Columbina and I really like him in general, and he will provide me one nod-krai character in additional to lunar damage.

[rugged axle]

Is it better to run Illuga with Fav Lance or Dragon’s Bane?

[thorn bay]

I think fav

[rugged sparrow]

ideally dbane

Zibai teams dont generally need the Fav particles

wassup Yun

[neon harness]

how badly does zibai need illuga, i havent leveled columbina yet, and i dont feel like leveling another 2 characters other than zibai (gorou and illuga)

[neon harness]

[rugged sparrow]

depends on the team

you can run an Illuga-less team if you just bineffa wheelchair it

[neon harness]

idk goodge teams, i see zibai illuga columbina gorou suggested

[rugged sparrow]

which is around equal level to hypercarry Zibai teams

[neon harness]

so that was what i was going to level

[rugged sparrow]

and bineffa wheelchair uses Xilo last slot

[neon harness]

bina, ineffa? man i dont got the clanker

[rugged sparrow]

oof

[neon harness]

[rugged sparrow]

then Illuga tym

[neon harness]

this team gonna take another month to level up, i got 0 of the leveling mats leftjkdsfhsdjkhfjksdhfjkshk

[rugged sparrow]

[neon harness]

12-3 Suggestions plek

Got 3 stars on everything else

[rugged sparrow]

which side are u struggling

1st half or 2nd

[neon harness]

second half more so

i was able to clear top in 1 min 20 sec

[rugged sparrow]

what teams have u tried

[neon harness]

idk if thats good or nah, i was using neuvi furi xilo kaz top, and lauma bina yelan kuki

[rugged sparrow]

[neon harness]

columbina was 70 and 1-1-1 tho

[rugged sparrow]

idk how u do ur duckie rot

cuz if u mess up, it's instant bricked cuz Lauma

did u use Lauma E at all during the adds/shield phase

[neon harness]

prolly

i was spamming random shit

[rugged sparrow]

skip Llama E cuz dendro aura

then just EC the summons till they die first

I just bina E > Kuki E and pray

[neon harness]

should i switch yelan to aino?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[neon harness]

i have no idea what im doing

[rugged sparrow]

can slap Yelan EQ too

main point is just

don't use Llama E during ducky's shield phase

also applies to the cactus

cuz if it's dendro aura, say good bye to your EC/LC procs

[neon harness]

[neon harness]

its so over for me

[rugged sparrow]

failed?

can try standard EC team like Suc Fischl Yelan Xq

[neon harness]

took too long

u think something like mauvrika furina xilonen -idk for 4th slot- would be better first half

[rugged sparrow]

maybe Mua/Xilo/Mav/+1

so u can Neuvrina EC 2nd half

like Neuvrina Fischl Kaz

[neon harness]

4th slot first team, eh sucrose? idk who to put

[haughty lotus]

Why is this fucker always hypablooming 💔

[lyric cargo]

If Flins without Bina is better than Zibai without Bina, I'm not aware

[dim helm]

yo guys who shld i pull/save for i have arlecchino and mualani (my arles better tho and i like the playstyle better)

[young glen]

Zibai is similar to arle

Skirk too

[dim helm]

u mean i cld use as a support for arle?

[young glen]

Im pretty sure u can only use mualani to hold cinders which is not worth it at all

[dim helm]

huh i dont understand i didnt play in a long time

[rugged sparrow]

[young glen]

Mualani is like

Strictly main dps

[rugged sparrow]

what's your current Arle / Mua team

[young glen]

U cant reallt have both on ir team

[dim helm]

pretty sure it was arle mualani bennet and some wind element

[rugged sparrow]

wallahi

[dim helm]

i didnt play in half a year bro idk what i was doing

[rugged sparrow]

you want them on separate teams

Arle/Bennett/anemo/+1 is a start
what chars do you have, send your char pool

[young glen]

😭😭

[young glen]

Mua xiangling suc and flex?

Xiang or pyro traveler

[rugged sparrow]

Arle/Bennett/Xq/Lanyan
Mualani/Pyro MC (after you got them)/Sucrose/+1 should be your current best team

[dim helm]

my mualani build is bad bcs i focused on arle

[rugged sparrow]

you should consider pulling for Xilonen

she's great for both Arle and Mua

[dim helm]

whens her rerun

[rugged sparrow]

god knows

[thorn bay]

Nice char pool light

[rugged sparrow]

she just had it like last patch

so probs not in a while

[dim helm]

r u being sarcastic

[thorn bay]

No

[dim helm]

😭 💔

[young glen]

Prolly not tthjs version

Ur gonna have to wait like 4 months minimun

[thorn bay]

I’m leaving

[dim helm]

oh bruh is there no one else i can pull for

[rugged sparrow]

Citlali and Xilo are like your go-tos
Cit is upgrade for Arle if you want to play melt Arle team

[dim helm]

alr thx

[young glen]

Skirk esc if u have enough pulls

[thorn bay]

Nope

[young glen]

Then build them

[rugged sparrow]

next patch is Varka Flins Skirk Escoff, none are really upgrades for your current existing teams

[young glen]

I swear isnt skirk really ez to do big dmg on

Every skirk i see does a min of 1m per burst

[rugged sparrow]

stop watching c6r5 tiktok whale showcases

[dim helm]

😭 ok

[rugged sparrow]

it gives you brainrot

[young glen]

😔

Flins aino works tho

[thorn bay]

Esqpur dhcwsp spam

[dim helm]

😢

ts

[rugged sparrow]

just see if any of those new upcoming units fancy you
otherwise my recommendation is just pulling for Xilonen + Citlali as high prio since they're upgrades for either Arle / Mua

[young glen]

Thanks for fixing the one word i could understand already

[dim helm]

alr also arles rerun is probably months like months far right

[rugged sparrow]

uh

[dim helm]

cus if she comes idk if i wanna go for her c1 or her weapon

[young glen]

Fontaine cronichle

[dim helm]

?

[young glen]

Psure its

[dim helm]

whats that

[rugged sparrow]

Arle also just had her re-run recently

[rugged sparrow]

so yeah it should be months from now

[young glen]

She did?

[thorn bay]

I don’t think so

[dim helm]

whats fontaine chronicle

[young glen]

Banner with all fontaine chars

Pretty much all

[rugged sparrow]

astro can you like

[dim helm]

isnt furina good???

[rugged sparrow]

shut the fuck up

[young glen]

I swear i saw it in the special program

I might be geeked

[thorn bay]

[dim helm]

oh ok nvm then

[rugged sparrow]

Furina is good but neither for Arle/Mua

unless for certain match ups / setups

[dim helm]

alr

[thorn bay]

Qt pfp guy ruining their reputation 😭

[dim helm]

i wonder if i will ever run out of ways to get primos

[young glen]

😔

[young glen]

Just 200% genshin

[young glen]

Yeah i lwk came back in late december so i wouldnt know

[dim helm]

oh so her rerun probably at the end of this year

?

[rugged sparrow]

probably not that drastic

[thorn bay]

Probably in June or sth

[rugged sparrow]

but god only knows, guessing a re-run is like

[dim helm]

oh alr

if she ever reruns should i go for c1 or her weapon

[rugged sparrow]

Wrio didn't have his re-run until like a year+

[thorn bay]

Wrio is next year

[rugged sparrow]

depends on what weapon you're using

[dim helm]

white tassel

[young glen]

Eula

[thorn bay]

Rerunning now

[rugged sparrow]

her sig should be better but you should also consider the possiblity of the other featured weapon

[thorn bay]

Ig in a few days is correct

[young glen]

Cronicle banner dkesnt count

[dim helm]

?

[rugged sparrow]

you still remember how weap banner works right

[dim helm]

nop

[rugged sparrow]

weap banner has 2 featured weaps

[young glen]

Like a actual rerun took likr 4 kr 5 years

[thorn bay]

Then she’s never rerunning with that logic

[dim helm]

what yall think abt my exploration

[rugged sparrow]

so if you win you can either get Arle sig or the other featured one

[thorn bay]

As well as the whole Liyue inazuma sumeru cast

[dim helm]

oh

wait so when i wsh i should choose arles weapon right not the other one

[rugged sparrow]

if it's like, say
Arle sig + some stinky 5-star weapon that you will never use, for whatever reason
going vertical with her const should be wiser

[dim helm]

i dont remember i thought u had to pick the other one bcs u auto lose

[thorn bay]

Nice

[rugged sparrow]

ideally you don't vertical invest until later on but

[dim helm]

☠️

[dim helm]

wym vertical invest

[thorn bay]

Bcuz you have billion opertunity to get primos

[rugged sparrow]

vertical invest = going for constellations / signatures

[dim helm]

ye

[rugged sparrow]

horizontal = getting more chars/expanding roster

[thorn bay]

I don’t know how to spell opertunity

Oppertunity?

[dim helm]

opportunity

[thorn bay]

Opportunity

Nice

Thank you

[dim helm]

np

[dim helm]

and ok

[rugged sparrow]

in any case as a side note
astro did mention about currently running banner (Zibai + Neuv)
Zibai is especially good value pull if you don't have geo DPS. you can have her full team if you get moderately lucky

since her preferred 4-stars are also on the banner

[young glen]

I need a 2nd team for stygian/abyss my main team is mua xiangling kazuha and zhongli

[dim helm]

im good i only need arlecchino

[rugged sparrow]

Stygian requires 3 though

[young glen]

Then i need 3 💔💔

[thorn bay]

Furina at 40

[dim helm]

67

[thorn bay]

Qt pfp guy really ruining their reputation;(

[young glen]

I never had to use furina

[young glen]

😢

Also how do i improve my mualani

[lyric cargo]

Zibai should be a decent amount better than Arle

in optimal teams

[thorn bay]

Em

[young glen]

Wdym erm

[thorn bay]

Em boosts vape dmg

[young glen]

Ohh 😭😭😭

How am i supposed to get more em

[thorn bay]

I don’t know
Also reroll that goblet

[young glen]

No feather ☣️☣️☣️☣️☣️

[pallid flint]

Can i replace durin with a c2 mavuika on varka team?

its gonna be Varka, C2 Mav, Venti, Bennett. how much damage am i losing

[thorn bay]

Dmg calcs aren’t out
That would probably work pretty good tho

[young glen]

I pray that varka gets buffed

Ever since the special program i only see vids about him being terrible

[rugged sparrow]

what videos

[opal surge]

no leaks

I feel like we tell you every day

[young glen]

Thats form the special program

[opal surge]

no its not

[young glen]

Check the vid it literally is 😭

[opal surge]

it is not

it showcases the entire kit with numbers

none of this is officially known

[young glen]

Oh 😭😭😭

[dim helm]

whats the website where u check the 50/50s u won and lost

[maiden kayak]

why zibai isn’t on character build guide sheet

[near prism]

going for cons in general is wiser since you can get pjws from standard n stuff

if you have pjws already getting arle cons is the way up to c3 iirc

[rugged sparrow]

5 years without PJWS

(and I'm proud of it cuz it's X*ao's weapon)

[near prism]

[rugged sparrow]

no PJWS no WGS

am I truly losing

[near prism]

kinda yeah

[rugged sparrow]

I don't have a constant reminder of D*luc and X*ao in my acc

😌

[near prism]

WGS is literally varka's lore weapon bro

[rugged sparrow]

nuh uh

[near prism]

yuh uh

[rugged sparrow]

if it's his lore weapon, why does he get his own sig

checkmate, atheist

[near prism]

for the same reason amos isnt ganyu's lore weapon and she doesnt get a new sig either

[rugged sparrow]

counterargument

Ganyu is a 1.x unit

they've only made lore weapon starting from what, 4.x?

[near prism]

wha

[rugged sparrow]

lore as sig

[near prism]

they started all the way back in 1.x

[rugged sparrow]

nuh uh

[near prism]

it started with zl and vortex iirc

[rugged sparrow]

it's inconsistent as fuck

80% of 2.x and 3.x chars got nation series weapon

[near prism]

i mean sure ig but they did start making sigs from 1.x

[rugged sparrow]

genuine exceptions are like archons only I feel like

[near prism]

for example, staff of homa

[rugged sparrow]

nuh uh

u cant stop my agendaposting

[near prism]

xiao, tao, eula, itto

raiden, ayato, yelan, cyno

there's a bunch actually

[rugged sparrow]

Redhorn isn't Itto's lore weapon

[near prism]

i think the only one whose lore weapon isnt their sig in 3.x is like, alhaitham?

[rugged sparrow]

I'll crucify you

[near prism]

its the one he uses in all his official material???

[rugged sparrow]

is that what you meant by lore weapon

I thought like weapon with actual connection with the user themselves

[near prism]

yeah? like the one the character is seen using LORE WISE

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

if this is the definition you've been working under how the FUCK does wgs for varka not fit

[rugged sparrow]

? it's literally not his

I'll literally flay you open

[near prism]

''a longsword used by the wolf knight''

[rugged sparrow]

do you genuinely think the Wolf Knight referred there = Varka

please tell me u don't

[near prism]

obviously not, but varka fulfills the same role of the knight of boreas as the original wielder

[rugged sparrow]

IT'S STILL NOT HIS

[near prism]

yeah sure whatever 😭

[rugged sparrow]

it's not a sword that's passed down to any Knights of Boreas preceeding him

[near prism]

i mean, true enough, but its also a sword tied to the knight of boreas, and the first time he was revealed he was using WGS

[rugged sparrow]

no it's red

red = D*luc

end of argument

[near prism]

[rugged sparrow]

the audacity to call D*luc's sig Varka's...

[viral mulch]

sekaide ichiban ohimesama

[dim helm]

should i try to get neuvi even tho he wont be beneficial to arlecchino?

[rugged sparrow]

that's entirely up to you

if you like his playstyle/whatever = pull

then u just make separate teams for them

[dim helm]

dam

im on 60 pity too

[quaint fern]

it's really just a matter of having more team options for stuff like abyss and stgian if you care about that

[fiery wigeon]

For ineffa if I have a decent ER piece but no good atk% pieces could I run an ER sands thrn just focus crit stats on everything else?

[quaint fern]

he doesnt really keep up with the current meta as well as some of the more recently released characters so I would probably not recommend going for neuvi

[onyx pawn]

Bruv im banned from the official genshin server can someone help

[fiery wigeon]

Honestly thr official server isnt even worth it, someone got banned for "leaking" >content already in the games news tabloid kinda ickk

[neon wave]

If you know someone who's in the server and is willing to appeal for you, they can send a ban appeal to modmail. Otherwise there's nothing much to do

[gusty grove]

I am trying to be silly and make a team for a Zhongli DPS. I have Lithic Spear(image 1), Staff of Homa(image 2), and Black Tassal(image 3) that I can use on him. I was using Shenhe and Xianyun to do repeated plunging Zhongli with physical res shredding via Shenhe. I had xiao in the team for the quad Liyue.

[onyx pawn]

Thats exactly why i got vanned

I didnt even know i leaked smth

And its js the most active server wirh lots of players thats the only reason why i wanna be in it

[fiery wigeon]

Honestly

power trip competition

But my opponent is a discord or reddit mod

[hazy lotus]

use homa as it’s your strongest weapon and then if you want to keep playing plunge then go xianyun and bennett if ur bennett is c6 last slot hydro or cryo applicator so u can vape/melt to pretend ur doing damage

[gusty grove]

Yeah, I learned that c6 is a nerf for B-Man after I got him to c6

[hazy lotus]

it’s not it doesn’t negatively affect most relevant units and the 15% pyro is good for the pyro dps he supports

[dim helm]

i dont even rememb why i got banned but im banned

[hazy lotus]

most modern units have priority on their infusion so bennett doesn’t override it anyways. unlucky if you’re an ayaka main ig but even then she has other supports

[gusty grove]

It looked like Lithic was the strongest atk wise and has double the crit rate

[hazy lotus]

at the cost of being very team restrictive

[gusty grove]

Xiao is the only one that I am not using in my team actively, so i could just use another Liyue character. Would the new horse lady work?

[hazy lotus]

you would rather just buff your dps (who in this case you’re trying to have be zhongli) than stick random characters in there just to force lithic passive that is what i have been telling you

[dim helm]

does the statues blessing reset everyday

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Statue_of_The_Seven#Statue's_Blessing

Restorative Power regenerates itself at a rate of 1% of its maximum every 15 seconds, even while the game is paused, for a full recharge in 25 minutes.

The maximum Restorative Power is 5,000 multiplied by the number of Statues of The Seven and Statues of the New Moon currently unlocked by the player; as of Version "Luna III", the maximum possible Restorative Power is therefore 275,000 HP (5,000 x 49 Statues of The Seven and 5,000 x 6 Statues of the New Moon.)

[bright cape]

how long ago?

and how many infractions later?

[dim helm]

wow js lost my 50/50 to jean and i have no primos

[exotic nova]

i wanna main dps c6 furina my team is Citlali Xilonen and Durin. Which artifact set is best for dps furina?

[onyx pawn]

3 days got banned officially today muted 3 days ago

[placid hollow]

Hi. I have been saving for varka since 5.8 and I love his design, playstyle, and weapon but his dmg is so bad. I skiped eveery charactar in nod krai even the ones i wanted so badly just for him. I also skiped 2 of his BIS teammates vent and durin. So i have enough prioms to at minimum c2 r1 him but I feel like I dont know if I should go for him or go for the Good nod krai charactars I really wanted like neffer and columbina.

[valid anchor]

welcome.

[valid anchor]

ah, rule 7. Leaks/Unreleased content and else, etc, etc. Don't worry about that.

[onyx pawn]

Id say go for columbina n stuff and if you alr have a good 5 star claymore weapon or serpent spine dont even r1 him just go for him c0 no more

[onyx pawn]

Wdym

[valid anchor]

well, Varka has some good stuff, not entering into his playstyle, but more as a character you wanna hear. About his kit, wait until more info is shown.

[valid anchor]

maincord (the nickname for official server) is quite sensitive regarding lots of things.

even sharing a gif can earn you a ban.

[onyx pawn]

Thats insane

[valid anchor]

I got banned for even more random reasons, I think I can comment, but not so-openly, in order to keep my lawyers happy.

[onyx pawn]

Seems like they banning more people than letting them in

[valid anchor]

I'm in the official Japanese Discord channel, which got invite-only after a huge influx (and some people asking JP VA doing some random stuff)

[onyx pawn]

Oh damn thats crazy

[valid anchor]

well, maincord has the ability for you to talk in your home language (if it's not english), but aside that, nothing major. Here is a more comfortable place.

[onyx pawn]

Yh i like it here more

[valid anchor]

If you need any help, post it here. Even technical, but don't go overboard with trying to run Genshin on ChromeOS/Linux using Proton or random shit
any link wanna share, go to #wonderland-link-sharing and the rest, check news/events section

[onyx pawn]

Thanks alot!!

[onyx pawn]

Anyone down to help me explore natlan

[full sonnet]

How do i run genshin on chrome os through a virtual machine running Linux

[somber frost]

is [e-mail] the same people as [e-mail]?

[neon wave]

the latter is specifically the email that handles hoyoverse accounts, the former is regular genshin support
I assume they're different teams

[torn ocean]

hey guys, i just got back to the game after taking a bit of break for about 2-3 years. any tips as a new comer for things that i should be doing on the daily and characters that i should prob acquire? i can send ss of my list of charcaters that i have rn

[somber frost]

so if im recovering a genshin account do i go the first one or the 2nd

[neon wave]

@somber frost ^

[somber frost]

well i lowk just want to get rid of an old email with a new email, would that work

[neon wave]

You can change your email at account.hoyoverse.com
I think you can only do it once though

[somber frost]

yeah lowk the problem is that i dont know the pass of an old email of mine

[neon wave]

then to support_os you go

You'll be asked for proof of ownership for your account

[calm lagoon]

can anyone help lvl up my neuvi

to lvl 80

i need unicorn guy only

[neon wave]

include in your server in co-op requests

[calm lagoon]

mb vro

[neon wave]

[young glen]

Is it worth it to build xiangling cuz rn i only use her as a pyro applicator

And she does like 10k dmg

In a mualani team

[opal surge]

its not worth building any unit if you dont have a good use for them

xl build in mualani teams is whatever

you might build her sooner or later for IT anyway

[bright cape]

how reliably can she proc fav for skirk team?

[young glen]

Rn my mualani can do 300k-400o

Its just that i have no other teams

[opal surge]

should b efine mine doesnt have more cr either

[lyric cargo]

afaik pyro traveler might be better (?)

[young glen]

Still dont have him 😭

[dusty cape]

[rugged sparrow]

literacy solves quite a lot

[viral mulch]

what did that say i cant read

[lyric cargo]

the piece I actually wanted to improve was the plume, though 😅
more crit rate to trigger fav would've been nice

[kind trout]

is building gorou for zibai worth it

[onyx pawn]

Nod krai craftable or staff of homa for flins?

[lyric cargo]

Homa.

Good link to bookmark:
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[onyx pawn]

Should i go for his sig or do i js give him homa

[lyric cargo]

do you have Ineffa and Columbina already?

[onyx pawn]

No but ill have enough on their rerun even if i go for his weapon

[lyric cargo]

and do you have two other very good teams already?

a wide char pool is more important than vertical investment

[onyx pawn]

Neuvi team, raiden team, she fell of, kinich team and itto team

[onyx pawn]

Alr i had to hear this thanks

[spiral mantle]

how to build ineffa and what r the reqs

[crude snow]

4pc aubade of morningstar and moon. Atk sands, atk goblet, crit circlet. Try to get enough er in ur substats so u can easily get her burst since it gives an em buff.

[spiral mantle]

okieee

2k atk rightttt

how are these statsss

using 4pc aubade

[hoary needle]

any tips on beating current abyss 12-1 (first half) without any lunar reactions, what other comps can beat it lol
-# its filled with 15 fisher of hidden depths :3

[drowsy shuttle]

the irony of me being able to get full stars on the 12th floor for the 1st and 3rd stages but not the 2nd

[quaint fern]

Chamber difficulty tends to be somewhat random lol

On plenty of occasions 12-1 has been the hardest chamber

[drowsy shuttle]

for me it was 12-2

the 2nd part specifically

[quaint fern]

Sorry I have no idea what the new abyss is right now, and I don't really have the capacity to help out currently

But send the enemy lineup, your team info, and your complete character roster

Someone will be able to help you out

[drowsy shuttle]

later xx

[bright cape]

looks like it's lunarcharged and lunar crystallized shill

https://x.com/Gensen_loser/status/2023168834128273727?s=20

[quaint fern]

Hold up my discord client is super old on mobile (my UI is still the ond one before they moved navigation to the middle

https://d.fxtwitter.com/Gensen_loser/status/2023168834128273727?s=20

AH HELL NAW

herra and dog is foul

[bright cape]

i am more annoyed with this one.

[quaint fern]

Wait what boss is in 1st half

[bright cape]

looks like stygian dog

[quaint fern]

Arle OL should be fine tho

Or mav OL

[feral reef]

w tf is this

new sprial?

[quaint fern]

Can mav melt do the legatus? Idt it can

[bright cape]

i always use navia with my neuvillette

but that trick wont work with herra

[quaint fern]

Oh that'll work ig

[quaint fern]

Just alternate DPSes depending on what it absorbs ig

Not the end of the world

[feral reef]

man hsr story and environments are so interesting that i forgot the gameplay is 🐳

[quaint fern]

I wonder if my zibai is up to snuff to take care of this lol

[bright cape]

absolutely

[quaint fern]

They're super underbuilt

[feral reef]

can i navia mavuika for second half

[bright cape]

lunar crystallize has abyss blessing too

[quaint fern]

Also like it just seems like we don't have enough supporting sets for zibai?

I'm just too lazy to swap my ZL off of tenacity

Might move to gorou once I actually have mora LOL

He can at least use exile...

Helps my Aino I guess

[feral reef]

5star instructor pls

idk why they cant just give us literal 5 star instructor

[bright cape]

4 star ttds pls

[quaint fern]

I guess the reason for this is bc I'm not running bina as I want to have the option to split bina into a carry team for stygian if needed

[feral reef]

100% atk

[bright cape]

for balance

[quaint fern]

Well the NK set sort of counts

[feral reef]

i mean the set bonus would still be the same i mean

[quaint fern]

If you have ascendant gleam

[feral reef]

just makes it easier to farm

[hazy lotus]

is new abyss good for lunar noelle

don’t have a zibai don’t want a zibai

[thorn bay]

Yeah I have been trying

Definitely doable

I just suck

[small pond]

i feel like my durin is lacking but idk if its cus my build isn't good or if im not using the right team? any tips would be great

[thorn bay]

Crit rate and talents

Just about like every thing is lacking tho

Sands kinda suck

Off piece goblet kinda disappointing

[formal sparrow]

Hello! Which characters constellation should I choose from the Lantern Rite - C2 LanYan, C6 YunJin or C2 Yaoyao?

[rugged sparrow]

c2 Lanyan is arguably the best pick there

Yaoyao consts are generally useless and Yun Jin is just a unit in general

[thorn bay]

Just use the transient and then do that 2 more times
Which is also time consuming but balance Ig

[lyric cargo]

the interface doesn't look like transient resin uses any 2x bonuses?

[thorn bay]

Use transient to get 60 original and then 1 more runs

[lyric cargo]

so imo using transient resin here is a trap?
if you don't consider regular leylines worth the rate of resin : exp books

[lyric cargo]

not sure why you repeat this

[thorn bay]

I’m not sure either

[neon wave]

I can try it out later today if you're curious but it seems evident from the interface that it won't work with the bonus

Though it doesn't really make sense but

[lyric cargo]

ah, Gorou is cheating since he has a mainstat
also, fav bow gives way more ER than fav lance

[violet cipher]

Is venti dps’s best set still vv or is it that new set?

[lyric cargo]

it's the new set if his team dmg share is high

VV would be if units of another element have the highest dmg share and there's no other anemo unit that can hold VV

if it's a Venti + Faruzan team, I'd just give VV to Faru

[violet cipher]

I don’t really have a good faruzan. The team is Bennet, Fischl, Yelan so I’m pretty sure he does most of the damage. I asked cause his substats on vv are way better than what he has atm

[sly shale]

Guys Does Skill Damage bonus help Zibai?

[quasi sage]

hii, why is there no moonsign thingies for zibai unlike nefer 🥲

[rugged sparrow]

those moonsigns are called Verdant Dew

which is strictly used in lunar bloom teams only

[quasi sage]

ohh, thank you!

[lyric cargo]

hmm, my Faruzan is c6 and I can't really clear Stygian with Venti I think

he's on VV, idk if the new set would change that

[lyric cargo]

I was farming it for a bit, but it's a bit rough to justify since I don't have a char who'd use Aubade

[fickle ore]

Should i get flins with bina?

[dim helm]

tighnari or jean tighnaris already c1

[zealous ledge]

What is this mechanic and how do I deal with it

[lyric cargo]

more context needed, are those the bird enemies in the northernmost part of nod-krai?

[rugged sparrow]

it's just extra HP bar
depletes easier with lunar dmg, otherwise just bruteforce

[bright cape]

i think it's because of fearless. but this abyss was not as bad as i thought

[zealous ledge]

Abyss

12-1

[bright cape]

do they also have wild hunt mechanics?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[bright cape]

oh that's awesome then

my choice of going neuvi on 1st half was pretty good

[bright cape]

crazy u got c6 illuga

[drowsy shuttle]

whats better? arlecchino overload team vs f2p vape team (xingqiu, kazuha and bennett)

[bright cape]

did u also go for c1 neuvi?

[lyric cargo]

took like 210 wishes on the Zibai banner

I think the average for a specific on-banner 4★ is like 35 wishes

[lyric cargo]

Mizuki → Zibai → Tighnari → 50-ish pity

if I'd been lucky with that number of 5★ pulls I could have c2 Zibai rather than c0 now

[bright cape]

i hope u pulled on neuvi after getting zibai

c1 neuvi is very comfy

[lyric cargo]

nah, I already had his c1

I started by pulling for Zibai's sig and got his along the way though

[bright cape]

oh didn't know that. does he feel strong after sig?

[thorn bay]

You deal big dmg with lunar dmg and I think it has like a multiplier for lunar dmg

[opal surge]

I don't think so or

[neon wave]

did not count

[lyric cargo]

stronger than before, certainly.
Probably not worth it if I had sac jade, or if I didn't have Zibai.

I haven't tried him against the dps dummy since then, can do that later

[bright cape]

i used him with this team today. it was a cake walk

[lyric cargo]

yh, abyss isn't really a challenge these days tbh

not if you're preparing your teams for stygian difficulty 5 (fearless)

[finite parrot]

How is the 2nd half clearable without Lunar crystallize?

[bright cape]

i dunno what to say. i think that team is just cracked

i killed the legatus golem without breaking his shield even once

[finite parrot]

Does your flins have any cons? His signature weapon?

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

I don't think my clear is a meaningful indication of which teams are good

Mav is c2r1, and all those chars are fully built

so I wouldn't expect to fail clearing

[bright cape]

surprised u didn't use zibai for 2nd half

[lyric cargo]

she wasn't finished, I needed the leyline overflow to lvl90 her and the primos to c6 Illuga

pretty sure c2r1 Mav is better as well

I might redo the clear with Zibai

[opal surge]

double lunar shill sides is funny

[lyric cargo]

one side gets Bina, the other gets a nod-krai on-fielder and Aino
two half-cursed teams, as it was meant to be

[opal surge]

killing the crab the way god intenderd it to be killed

[finite parrot]

I guess it's impossible for me to clear the 12th floor without spending some bucks

Btw is it better to get Signature weapon for Skirk or get Escoffier??
Do you think the weapon will compensate for the lack of sustain from Escoffier?

[lyric cargo]

Escoffier

even if they were comparable, a wider char pool will help you more

[opal surge]

To add to this they are not remotely comparable

[true harbor]

who can i use with zibai if i dont have illuga ?

[viral mulch]

asbestos removal memes

[lyric cargo]

^

I forgot to press the button to show the team breakdown

I can try Xilo Kaz later

[quaint fern]

Yeah I don't think I'll be able to clear abyss with ganyu and skirk

I'll probably swap one side out lol

The run routing on 12-2-2 is just too difficult to line up the vulnerable phase with Ganyu's rotations

[bright cape]

yah. it's so sad.

i found his highest dps to be with lauma and raiden

[lyric cargo]

the Esco team was better before sig

but sure about now

[bright cape]

can you share how lauma + em raiden does?

it was well over 100k for me

furina, dragon bane raiden and deepwood lauma

[lyric cargo]

I'll try to remember tomorrow

Lauma on Neuv's team was never a consideration on dps dummy for me since I have Nefer

she's on 2pc 2pc EM
I suppose I should swap her to deepwood

or give Furina deepwood

that sounds bad in AoE, which is where you'd most likely bring Neuv

[hazy lotus]

noelle the goat

[bright cape]

i honestly pulled lauma for alhaitham and neuvi

she reduced hydro res a bit

alhaitham could not be saved

[lyric cargo]

for me it was a fallback
"if I don't end up using her in Nod-Krai teams, I could always use her with Neuv"

don't think I'd even consider Alhaitham if I had him, at this point

idk how he'd compare to my c6 Tighnari I don't use much

[bright cape]

he was my first limited

[lyric cargo]

mine we Venti

[bright cape]

sadly nahida clears faster for most fights than him

[lyric cargo]

even Nahida is being pushed off dendro teams

clinging on to being one option for the 4th slot in Nefer's

[bright cape]

yah it really feels weird

i didn’t think it would get this bad

until fontaine and some parts of natlan, i was still using raiden national

[lyric cargo]

it seems to me that teams have around 2 game versions of service life

[bright cape]

it used to be a lot higher but yah

[lyric cargo]

ever since I started, in 3.X

[opal surge]

hyper neuv should out perform for you

this is full c0r0

for me

[lyric cargo]

lemme go try it in a sec

[bright cape]

i think hyperbloom will be a bit higher

with lauma in nascent gleam

[opal surge]

I dont own lauma

but if neuv is c1r1 and gains like 40-50% damage over mine

this would be 126k dps

[lyric cargo]

c1 Widsith
buff likely not active for the single clear attempt I did

I can likely get better runs but don't want to reset for Widsith rng
he was just on it since that's the last thing I tried earlier

trying sig now

[lyric cargo]

A12 = Abyss floor 12
SoF = Stygian Onslaught Fearless

[bright cape]

even after all this time, neuvi feels the comfiest dps

[lyric cargo]

I wonder if @opal surge would say it is Chasca

requires higher investment maybe

but similar hold to charge attack playstyle

[opal surge]

I think comfort is pretty subjective

having combos to perform doesnt make a character less comfortable to me

[lyric cargo]

slowmode ate my image upload, when it finished more quickly than I expected
after a message I sent during the upload

[opal surge]

its definitely not alhaitham though

trying him again to see what his dps actually is for me after reading the convo above has made me realize how difficult he is for how little payoff

[lyric cargo]

which combo did you use, btw?
I can see if it makes a difference to my dps

[opal surge]

for neuvilette?

[lyric cargo]

yh, full team combo

[opal surge]

neuv e > furina e > xilonen en2 > kazuha teq > furina q > neuvilette CA E CA Q > xilo en2 > kazuha teP

and I xilo bursted after furina e second rotation onwards

neuv e > furina e > xilonen en2q > kazuha teq > furina q > neuvilette CA E CA Q > xilo en2 > kazuha teP

so this

[lyric cargo]

iirc I should do a long rotation and refresh Xilo + Kaz buffs
but it seems Furina burst is up as well by the time I finish 2 CA on Neuv

[lyric cargo]

kazuha teq > furina q

my gut feeling here is always to not waste VV uptime, so I Furina Q before going to Kaz
maybe that's a mistake

I skipped Xilo burst, since it takes so long

but faster Fanfare stacking I assume

[opal surge]

xilo burst is dps neutral

can be a gain or loss depending on some varying factors

can leave it out if you prefer not doing it

[lyric cargo]

Neuv is supposed to do 2 CA after this, right?

to use the droplets from his burst

[opal surge]

yeah sorry

[lyric cargo]

followed that this time. feels smoother at least

[opal surge]

why did my kazuha swirl twice as often as yours almost

[lyric cargo]

hmm
did you burst? (your rotation indicates no, I didn't either)

also, idk how many rotations we each did?

[opal surge]

Oh no, you are supposed to burst

kazuha burst is good

it comes at the start

I just wrote teq instead of tEPQ

[lyric cargo]

ah

I closed genshin for now, will redo

I remembered it's supposed to refresh the dmg% buff (though not VV res shred)

[opal surge]

https://streamable.com/p8xmv4 this character feels so odd to play

his rotation probably improves with lauma though

[lyric cargo]

distinctly one of those chars who,
if they're a starter in theater,
is very hard to play with zero knowledge

I roughly remembered his mirror mechanics, but couldn't assemble a rotation and didn't want to go too deep for a theater act..

someone like Varesa by contrast.. plug and play, the kit clicked immediately

[bright cape]

yah. he is not fun to play at all

having to manage kuki e in between his burst

[topaz shore]

im not sure if i can do floor 12 with my characters, but does anyone have any ideas?

also id like to know if anyone has any suggestions on whether i should pull for escoffier or skirk first next version
hoyo putting them right after varka is genuinely evil fml

[lyric cargo]

(stygian conditions)

[hazy lotus]

escoffier without skirk is probably more usable than skirk without escoffier for you

[topaz shore]

i thought so ty

[full sonnet]

my flins team is so buns but i need lunar reactions

[topaz shore]

this abyss is genuinely so buns needing lunar reactions for both halves

[full sonnet]

So is it impossible for me cause my flins is doing absolutely nothing without ineffa

Lunar nuvilette is a breeze

[topaz shore]

maybe swap the teams

try neuvi for first half

[full sonnet]

I did

[topaz shore]

darn

[full sonnet]

He rips through it in 30 seconds

Flins tickles the boss

[topaz shore]

and it still doesnt give u enough time?

[full sonnet]

Maybe less time im just guessing but it's really fast

Maybe i can cheat and use arlechino or something

[topaz shore]

perhaps

[sleek pebble]

Can someone suggest me a team for floor 12?

[topaz shore]

we're all struggling ngl

maybe add a hexerei character on the second half so albedo gets the buff

not sure how useful bennet is on that team

also another character on the flins team to trigger the moon sign scendant gleam like jahoda or aino

[thorn bay]

Disclaimer
This might not be very good lineup
Remove furina and put aino
Remove qiqi and put sucrose
Remove raiden and put fischl
(With all that 5 star I suppose you have sucrose and aino is free)
Remove Bennett and put venti?? (Nvm I think putting geo trav rather than venti is better decision)
//I might be wrong but I think geo trav is better than zhongli in that situation and then just dodge (this is just optional)

[topaz shore]

you could also use neuvilette instead of bennet

[sleek pebble]

Thanks that’s very nice of you i suppose I have fischl but aino and sucrose are not built on my account. Also resinless right now from trying ti farm good artifacts loll mayve I’ll try building them next

[thorn bay]

Top half is just flins normal f2p team

[thorn bay]

You don’t need to level them except sucrose you need lvl 70 and hex quest done

[sleek pebble]

Ohh cool

[sleek pebble]

She’s stuck on lvl 40 lol imma level her to 70 atleast

[topaz shore]

neuvi would be the main dps and albedo could work as a sub dps

[thorn bay]

Good idea but replace albedo with geo trav

Albedo useless without hex

[topaz shore]

true

[thorn bay]

I don’t have him but apparently his flower gets broken

[sleek pebble]

Oohh

[fading vortex]

guys is zibai good?

i havent played in a long time so thats why im asking

[hearty nexus]

Lunar Noelle

[fading vortex]

so is she good? idk if that just makes her unique or better

[sleek pebble]

Shes strong

[thorn bay]

Kinich but lunar crystallize

Best f2p is either Natlan craftable or harbingus of dawn

[tepid finch]

whats a lunar geo team without zibai? i have bina, itto, zhongli, albedo

[trail valve]

can someone please help me? i was running with varesa and glitched behind a wall in genshin, that elevator in the fontaine jail, turns out there's this whole ass wall behind it during the calamtius tread quest and i cant get out, it wont let me teleport, i tried killing a character using kuki and gaming but i wouldnt work, and i left and went back in like 2 minutes later but IM STILL IN THIS FUCKING WALL, what do i do

[thorn bay]

Can you move

[trail valve]

yes

[thorn bay]

If then go outside the border

[trail valve]

thats the thing, there is no border, just this wall

[thorn bay]

So you can only move in the wall??

[trail valve]

yes

[thorn bay]

Try placing the coach and sit

On the wall

[trail valve]

it says "cannot deploy here"

omg, im cooked

[thorn bay]

Try joining coop??

Maybe teapot?

[trail valve]

coop is disabled, its one of those fucking quests

i'll try teapot

yeah teapot wont work either, cause i have to teleport

ughh

[fading vortex]

guys who should i select? this is my current roster.
pls it would rly be appreciated if someone could tell me which character choice would be the best for my account currently. Ty

[hearty nexus]

Lunar reaction surely separates 5 stars and 4stars