📌gimshim-help

[rugged sparrow]

still kinda bad

[viral flare]

alrr ty

[rugged sparrow]

new AQ is like 4-6h? give or take

and gives 500 primos for the end reward

100 primo per hour when u probs get more from doing exploration that u haven't done

[viral mulch]

hey ig its still limited 500 primo so if ur desperate enough

[hazy lotus]

i mean it is a time limited reward tho so u might as well do it

[viral flare]

yh hum thats not worth it...

[hazy lotus]

cause exploration u can do whenever

[rugged sparrow]

yeah it's time-limited so u still do it anw

[viral mulch]

i still have to do chess boss through handbook

[viral flare]

yh but Flins migh be limited too, if he come as i thought

[rugged sparrow]

I mean again, worst case scenario he's 7 weeks

[viral flare]

sooo idk whats more worth it, ill see, but tysm for all the help!

[rugged sparrow]

almost 2 months

[viral flare]

i'll try to get them

[viral mulch]

i think it depends on your determination now
gl

[rugged sparrow]

take me for example
I could waste my guarantee on Ineffa but Varka

waiting 5 years for Varka but have fuckall primos for him I'm sorry

[viral mulch]

varka should pin the enemies between the 2 claymores to make it take fall dmg

[rugged sparrow]

hot

Varka should pin me between his two thi-

[near prism]

jean putting varka in solitary confinement after realizing he spent half the time in his expedition drunk

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

half?

you're being generous here

[near prism]

the other half was hangover getting ready to drink the next night

[rugged sparrow]

[cedar flint]

When was he not drunk is the real question

[viral mulch]

he was also prob drawing random doodles like nerd emoji mika on the journey map

[near prism]

also sidenote i fucking LOVE the song that the KoF in Nod Krai sing

[rugged sparrow]

fr

[near prism]

i love the part where it goes like ''as the children of the wind we were born free'' 🔥 ✍️

[foggy phoenix]

should i replace kazuha for xilonen or no

[rugged sparrow]

it's an option sure

Xilo also has healing so it can be taken into consideration

Kaz can give potentially more dmg due to his ults triggering aggravates

[viral flare]

how do i use the interactive map efficiently? please

[lyric cargo]

I use the compass to explore

Anything I collect, I mark off on the interactive map

in the end, when I select "hide found markers, the map will show only what I didn't find

[viral flare]

how do i get natlan compass please?

and tysm

[lyric cargo]

it's tied to tribe reputation

I think you need to max out reputation with 3 tribes

so it'll take a while

[crude snow]

You can view in-game pins in the hoyolab official map. Anything I find is pinned, and I mark the corrosponding item in the hoyolab map after I log off to see what I missed.

[viral flare]

holy shi

[viral flare]

wait sorry i'm confused, wdym? '^^

[crude snow]

In-game pins can be viewed on official map

It's a pain to switch back and forth between the map and game, so just find what you can in game then use map after

[lyric cargo]

there's an official and an unofficial map,
the unofficial one is mostly better because it has many comments on each map item

but it's true that ingame pins can be shown on the official one if you log in. I don't use that very much, I just alt tab to mark things off

if you only have one device and are playing on mobile, it might be more relevant

[viral flare]

hummm alright!!

tysm!

wait maybe im an idiot, but does that mean (on the official one) that when i get an item it get marked on the map? '^^ im so freacking confused

[crude snow]

Pins are a function of the in-game map. When you tap on an empty space on the map you can make a pin

Those pins can be viewed on the official map hosted by hoyo

It doesn't auto make a pin when you claim a chest or anything

But you can make a pin manually on your game map after

[viral flare]

holy... thats a pain what...

[crude snow]

It takes like 2 secs to do it

[lyric cargo]

no, it only displays your custom markers

so you'd then have to go and mark the chests as found where you placed a custom marker

you can name them, so you'll have some idea what marker corresponds to what chest

I probably wouldn't, unless you're playing on mobile and can't access the map while you play

[lyric cargo]

also, afaik you can't remove the custom markers from inside the interactive map I think? you'd have to do that ingame?

[viral flare]

yh no im not doing this, but that mean that i will have to repin every single one of the chest already opened 🥀

[lyric cargo]

my main takeaway if I started over would be to use the interactive map from the beginning

starting to use it after partially exploring without it makes it much less useful
it won't just show what you're missing then, you'll have to re-check those in the end

[viral flare]

yh ik... but without compass its a hell... nod krai was sooooo much better to explore and much much more fun

[crude snow]

If you find it painful, there are chest route available for older regions which players make for maximum efficiency

When on the route, if there is a chest already claimed, simply move onto the next

No need to really keep track

[weak wolf]

how do i build columbina in a nefer lauma team

[bright cape]

on sms

[true oar]

I got plans to get more constellations for Mavuika. Maybe up to C2. At what constellation where she can deal extra dmg?

[viral mulch]

all constellation is technically extra dmg

[strange scarab]

xiao

[tiny heron]

is a c0 Gaming good
should I get him

also does the EM increase only apply to the equipping character on this?

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

including constellations, if possible

like from hoyo's website:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html

[quaint fern]

gaming

he's a spreadsheet warrior for sure

[lyric cargo]

I still think his name should've been Ga Ming

"genshin gaming" is so awful to google

[lyric cargo]

c2r1 is a good stopping point
you can also just learn her advanced combos, it's a damage increase comparable to constellations

a wide char pool is generally more important than going deep
do you have 3 good teams yet?

[true oar]

I know but I meant the one where you can see a shadow for Mavuika going on her bike more round to deal damage

[viral mulch]

the wat

[true oar]

Tbh I got a decent team for her with Citlali, Benny and Xilonen. Currently, she is in my Varesa team in the open world

[rugged sparrow]

probs the c6 procs idk

[viral mulch]

idk either what shadow

with this treasure i summon rat from the sky

[lyric cargo]

and do you have 3 good teams?

[rugged sparrow]

the c6 procs summon her bike right

[lyric cargo]

point the sun in the direction

[rugged sparrow]

probs that's what they call the "shadow"

[true oar]

Ah yeah, the C6. My bad.

[rugged sparrow]

yeah figured

[viral mulch]

oh

[true oar]

Old player with a few decent teams alr. It doesn't have to be Mavuika

My Varesa overload team is good too

[rugged sparrow]

in any case c2r1 is a good stopping point nowadays for most modern DPS/supps

[viral mulch]

c2 ineffa trur

[true oar]

Still gotta wait for that chef to save my C6 Ayaka. Used to be such a brilliant DPS. It's all MHY fault

[lyric cargo]

hmm, a lot of older chars have kinda fallen off
what are your three best?

[rugged sparrow]

esp certain chars that can brute force through Stygian with that amount of vertical

[rugged sparrow]

hence why I said most

[viral mulch]

[true oar]

Varesa overload, Columbina Ineffa team, Nahida Nilou team?

[rugged sparrow]

Niloom
best
uhh

[viral mulch]

hey its an old account

[true oar]

idk which are decent alr at this point. Too many old teams that I refuse to give up

[rugged sparrow]

I guess they have bina

do they llama though

[true oar]

dun even ask me to go get Skirk. My respond will be 🖕

[rugged sparrow]

the most important puzzle piece for modern Niloom

[true oar]

you meant this? 🦙

[viral mulch]

yes

[true oar]

jokes aside, not yet

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[viral mulch]

or maybe alpaka

[hazy lotus]

this 97 year old genshin player still clears abyss the old fashioned way

[rugged sparrow]

doomed already

[viral mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mad-skeleton-gif-10886506202898815019

[true oar]

I was waiting for Columbina...well, I wasn't interested in Nod Krai before experiencing the story

I felt that Nod Krai is mid, just like the characters

tbh I still feel that most of them are mid but again, I changed my mind for some

[rugged sparrow]

want to improve ur old teams but are hesitant to pull newer chars to improve said teams

pick a struggle

[viral mulch]

ayaka mains when no one else in the game wears wet socks

[lyric cargo]

should be good, if you replace the third with a Mavuika team
I assume Varesa uses Durin?

[true oar]

deal with it. I love my Ayaka

[true oar]

no

No males allowed

[rugged sparrow]

it's joever

[true oar]

I rather use pyro traveler, which a female for me

[lyric cargo]

I can't deal with this teambuilding restriction

[viral mulch]

nah its based fr

[true oar]

I would rather use XL even

[rugged sparrow]

imagine if Escoff/Llama are male

[true oar]

THANK YOU! 🤝

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

i hate male playables i say as i pull another durin cons

[lyric cargo]

not playing Durin means Mav is on Varesa's team imo
it's just -1 team, she could've been with Citlali

[true oar]

AGAIN, NO DURIN. PERIOD.

[viral mulch]

just so happens that i value meta more than my personal agenda when pulling

[lyric cargo]

so -1 team

[rugged sparrow]

my personal agenda is so asinine that Im literally shooting myself in the leg

[viral mulch]

i mean pmc isnt too bad

[viral mulch]

its ok u waited 5 years for it

[rugged sparrow]

my archon x triple crown pairing also pays off w/ Venti buff

[true oar]

Nowadays, I would rather keep my agenda than just pull for the male char

I'm playing Genshin to enjoy the girls, not the guys

[rugged sparrow]

(Mav x Klee is still fucked tho)

[viral mulch]

i also swapped my venti to dps build now albeit 2p2p cus yea
its fun to run once every while

[hazy lotus]

do not check this guys profile i think his hard drive is questionable

[rugged sparrow]

u made me check

[lyric cargo]

mmh, Iansan can already hold scroll so pmc is just a noblesse holder?

[viral mulch]

or vice versa

[rugged sparrow]

or totm

[lyric cargo]

I usually assume being able to hold scroll is the reason to include pmc

[rugged sparrow]

though idk how reliable PMC is at proccing totm

[true oar]

Anyway, I heard Nicole will be coming. I dunno whether I should go for her or not as I'm thinking of getting Sandrone. 😭

[lyric cargo]

like in a Mualani team
there pmc actually gives scroll compared to other options

[hazy lotus]

we don’t have a rats ass of an idea what they’re gonna do

[viral mulch]

anyway for that guy
assuming one of his team will be locked to ayaka cus well he established enough then like thatll be esco furina flex
so thats 2 teams left which u can keep varesa overload and the last team some bineffa wheelchair is fine or because nilou is already mentioned he can just get lauma nefer and get full nefer premium nilou included
absolutely 0 male chars needed too

[rugged sparrow]

how to play Mav team without male tho

Bennett is right there

[viral mulch]

2p2p em evenstar klee

[rugged sparrow]

I'll skin u alive

[viral mulch]

[true oar]

bineffa wheelchair with Fishcl and Sucrose so far has been good.

I wish I can have a healer in that team

[viral mulch]

or just run mualani/chasca 4th that also works

[true oar]

no chasca unfortunately

I got C2 Mualani btw. It was fun until I tried her in the abyss

[viral mulch]

was replying to him dw

[lyric cargo]

I think at that point you just actually put Mav on the Varesa team

[true oar]

Mualani, Citali, pyro and xilonen?

or XL?

[viral mulch]

nowadays its like what mav mona sucrose or some weird shit like that

[lyric cargo]

Mualani, Mona, Sucrose, Pyro Traveler
is better than her previous teams afaik

[viral mulch]

or can just run mav xilo sucrose like usual

[true oar]

tough call

anyway, I'm definitely getting esffo for my Ayaka

otherwise, I'm gonna cry

what artifacts for her?

[viral mulch]

i think this works alright
just add the possibility of mav cit team there and take away one of those ig depending on decision

[viral mulch]

who cus theres a lot of hers here

[rugged sparrow]

her

[true oar]

esffocier...that chef

I'm not worried about my Ayaka. My C6 Ayaka is strong

[viral mulch]

just go for gt here

[true oar]

GT?

[viral mulch]

golden troupe

[true oar]

ah. Thanks.

[rugged sparrow]

alternatively 4p Nob depending on dmg share ig

[viral mulch]

for skirk case scroll esco is a thing but i dont think that applies as well for ayaka

[true oar]

NO SKIRK. PERIOD. AYAKA ONLY. PERIOD.

[rugged sparrow]

are u just illiterate or what

[viral mulch]

cus esco cant fix ayaka dmg distribution being 5s of burst then 15s of goofing around so she actually has to subdps to fill the gap at least to a semi consistent level

[rugged sparrow]

no one telling u to get Skirk

[viral mulch]

hence golden troupe i think suits better for her

[true oar]

I see. Thanks.

[true oar]

I just dun wanna to hear her name

[rugged sparrow]

wdym c6 Ayaka CA goes crazy

[rugged sparrow]

ok

[viral mulch]

once per 10s

[rugged sparrow]

Inazuma buff makes all CA like that trust

no CD

[viral mulch]

mualani c1 vs c6 moment

[true oar]

Inazuma buf when? OH btw I'm waiting for Sandrone

[rugged sparrow]

🦈

[true oar]

gg. btw I went for C2

[rugged sparrow]

didn't learn from Signora I see

[viral mulch]

dam

[true oar]

btw I dun care about Signora

[viral mulch]

wdym shes playable
in tcg

[true oar]

who plays that?

[rugged sparrow]

theres Sandrone in TCG?

[viral mulch]

signora

[rugged sparrow]

gg

[viral mulch]

hey that the the

fatui operative thunder manifestation signora decks still kinda good

[rugged sparrow]

idk TCG meta anymore atp

[viral mulch]

skirk chasca and electro abyss lector

[true oar]

oh btw just get scoffier C0? because I'm waiting for Sandrone

[viral mulch]

yea thats fine

[rugged sparrow]

hey don't say Sk*rk

[true oar]

her constellation not worth it?

[viral mulch]

skunk

[rugged sparrow]

c1

[viral mulch]

c1 is fine but just having her at all is the most important part

[true oar]

only up to C1? what does it do? C0 enough for my AYAKA?

[rugged sparrow]

60% cdmg for cryo

[viral mulch]

speaking of esco i think esco lyney tulpa still the best deck

[rugged sparrow]

my chef cannot be this strong

u showed me that deck the other day right

[viral mulch]

yea

[true oar]

Better than stuck with Charlotte rn

rn my Ayaka is stuck with that reporter

[viral mulch]

tried using the skirk chasca deck a few times too but like tbh idk its a little clunky to my taste

[rugged sparrow]

another Sk*rk mention

[true oar]

u guys play tcg?

[rugged sparrow]

where's the meltdown

[true oar]

skirk digusting

[true oar]

u happy now?

[viral mulch]

only sometimes or for bp

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[true oar]

xD

[rugged sparrow]

no but I like to watch

[true oar]

I dun play that anymore. Never really a fan of card games

anyway, my plan will be getting C2 Mavuika, Escoffier and Sandrone.

should I get constellations for Citlali?

[rugged sparrow]

depends

[true oar]

I see. Mostly only EM buffs?

Anyway, what about her SIG weapon?

[viral mulch]

its fine to skip and just use ttds

[true oar]

ttds? Dragon Slayer?

[viral mulch]

ye

[true oar]

she currently is using Sac frag iirc

[zealous ledge]

So.. now that bina has been out for almost a month. Has she lived up to the "OMG she is op she will break the game!!" hype or not?

[lyric cargo]

she's about as strong as I expected

she doesn't make every team OP, just Nefer + Lauma or Flins + Ineffa teams

I assume Zibai teams as well, but that's a bit more out there as we haven't actually gotten to play her yet

[zealous ledge]

Okie, tysm!!

[torpid torrent]

Hello

How do you guys complete this quest?

The robot is here missing for me

[tardy jetty]

oh boi someone else also had that bug but it hasn't fixed for them too

[torpid torrent]

Is there any way?

[tardy jetty]

i'm not sure except resetting the game or find that specific bug

[torpid torrent]

Ohh

Ok

I guess I can't complete this quest

[tardy jetty]

apparently you can still do the puzzle even without the robot

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpact/comments/1nfm3i2/team_rigorintuition_quest_bug/

[torpid torrent]

How??

[maiden elbow]

C6 yao yao or c6 lanyan

[lyric cargo]

lanyan

yao cons don't do much afaik

lan yan c6 was actually impactful against enemies where you're trying to fill an elemental bar, recently

sac fragments c6 lan yan can use her skill 3x and fill Herra's bar almost instantly

they might make more bosses like it in the future
the pyro mech also had a bar you needed to fill, and so did Lava Dragon Statue

[sacred patrol]

How much primos do lantern rite quests usually give?

[opal surge]

1280 for the full event

[maiden elbow]

GET C1 colum or get the new geo chick in few days?

[thorn bay]

Prob zibai

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't go for Bina's vertical investment, there are better places to invest for all her teams

what nod-krai chars do you have so far?

[bright cape]

i keep seeing overloaded mavuika runs more than melt one for stygian

so i am considering not pulling citlali. thoughts?

[opal surge]

its just worse

[bright cape]

but more versatile right?

[torpid torrent]

Yeah I just did it tyyy

[bright cape]

who should i choose?

[thorn bay]

[opal surge]

the only boss it has an advantage on is trooper on dire because it can cheese it

[bright cape]

i heard she becomes a good shielder

[opal surge]

but its incredibly difficult

[thorn bay]

Oh yeah at c4 right

[bright cape]

n lava dragon statue too

[opal surge]

okay yeah sure, and melt was mandatory for tulpa, turtle, herra and drake from the top off my head

so i dont get how overload is possibly more versatile

[bright cape]

yah. versatile is wrong.

i was trying to say. if a player just does donuts, is overloaded better?

say for very average player

[opal surge]

its the same thing as melt

mav overload gains 40% damage from combos

[rugged sparrow]

CDCDCCFDCDCCFDCD 🗣️ 🔥

[thorn bay]

Why not 2(CD) 3(CCFDCD)CF

[lyric cargo]

stygian enemies often have "white" shields, which prevent you from triggering vape / melt

not sure what the first boss this stygian has, it's a new kind of shield? does it prevent melt?

[bright cape]

lunar shields

[lyric cargo]

I'd get her, but use the team appropriate to the occasion

what's your char pool right now?

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1463559876583096320/character_overview.png?ex=697d7a9a&is=697c291a&hm=32931452fc9ea456c92dd41e26982dd707e4a9b97fe0d7a4ac58b1aec8d258a7&

rn my plan is to get escoffier then save

[brave meteor]

Is anyone on the EU server willing to let me come grab some Columbina flowers?

[bright cape]

i reach 70k dps with my current skirk

expecting somewhere around 90 with escoffier

mavuika is around 70-75k right now with donuts

[lyric cargo]

what's your ar?

[brave meteor]

AR60

[lyric cargo]

just wanted to make sure you can actually join my world before starting up genshin

[brave meteor]

Changed my nick to help

[lyric cargo]

if you need a second world, that's possibe as well

[brave meteor]

Thank you so much

I whaled on her banner because I was guaranteed, and then realized I'd been collecting the wrong flowers

[lyric cargo]

thankfully that's quite fixable ^^
compared to farming the wrong boss

[brave meteor]

Yeah, at least I didn't do that lol

[lyric cargo]

I farmed too much of it, forgetting the quest will give some

80 resin lost, essentially

[brave meteor]

Are you okay with me taking all of them?

[lyric cargo]

ye

[brave meteor]

I only got my bina yesterday so she's stuck on level 60

Thank you

[serene sandal]

i got bina sig but not able to farm her mats till tmrw 😭

[lyric cargo]

so many people went for vertical investment on her, huh

especially weapon

[lyric cargo]

will you be on-fielding her? what team?

[brave meteor]

I really want her weapon but I'm going to run her with Sacrificial Jade instead. I need to save wishes for Varka

[foggy phoenix]

does the theatre reset every first of the month?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[lyric cargo]

not overcapping crit rate with jade can be rough in Lauma teams I think
prototype amber is fine though, lowers ER reqs

[lyric cargo]

you didn't need a second world of Bina flowers, right?

[bright cape]

@brave meteor there is one special chest that gives a bunch of bina flowers

and also u can purchase from one merchant

[woeful narwhal]

Do I have enough time to get the con or is it hopeless 😭

[lyric cargo]

should take 21 days to get +3 completion progress with the same weekly progress?

it says 23 days remaining, so should be fine?

[woeful narwhal]

Yeah I overreacted, for some reason I thought 3 weeks was 28 days 😂

[lyric cargo]

it happens 😅

[brave meteor]

Whoops sorry. I was 8 short but a friend was online so I grabbed them from him. Thank you 🙂

[brave meteor]

Itto fans represent!

[brave meteor]

Yup I found that one

[lyric cargo]

I'm only just starting to explore, waited for the interactive map to finalize its updates first

[brave meteor]

Well my friend hadn't even lit up the map yet so it was a long walk

[lyric cargo]

I'd like to finish before the banner ends, though. I like to keep track how many wishes I'm able to get by the end of each banner

[woeful narwhal]

Honestly for me with the new compass system from the meetup spots I can easily 100 percent every area with only the compass, it feels really convenient not having to rely on the interactive map anymore

[lyric cargo]

yeah, the map is only to get the couple things the compass doesn't cover really

like the knocked over deer statues on Lauma's island in the initial nod-krai update

[brave meteor]

Oh geez my Ineffa is hitting for over 100k with her skill with bina and Ineffa

And Bina just has Ring of Yaxche at level 41 while I work on the battlepass

[lyric cargo]

or the chests behind the quest for the floating balls near this leyline

[foggy phoenix]

is c4 xingqu worth it

or should i just go for a character i have arleady c6 so i get a wish

[brave meteor]

Get C4 Xinqiu because you want to get him to C6

[foggy phoenix]

i kinda dont

i use yelan over him 99% of the time

[ashen quest]

does anyone know ineffas bis artifacts?

[honest heart]

hows the nevui prebuild

[honest heart]

tbh i was to but there are sometimes where xq actualy outs yelan(unless she has like 270% er for 100% uptime(solo hydro)) but still getting c6 xq is better than a pull in my opinion

[lyric cargo]

at c6 he's the best hydro applicator in the game, so there will always be a use for him
when they put enemies with pyro shields

I think every account still wants c6 Xq, even if he's not part of any modern dps's best team anymore

it's a tool you can pull out when the enemy lineup calls for it

[lyric cargo]

usually Aubade.
usually artifacts for off-fielders depend on the team, but in Ineffa's case it's usually that

[lyric cargo]

his biggest problem is rotation length. modern on-fielders usually want rotations less than 20 seconds, and Xq skill / burst have 21s cooldown iirc

skill has 21s CD it seems, burst 20s
weird

[brave meteor]

I need 300 BP XP to get to level 30 for bina's weapon. Can I please buy junk from someone's teapot salesman?

Or rather, is Sacrificial Jade all that much better than Amber on her? Like does she want more HP or should I prioritise crit after a certain amount of HP?

[quaint fern]

idt that's open until weekend

[brave meteor]

It starts on friday

[quaint fern]

oh consider myself corrected

[brave meteor]

I just forget he exists most the time lol

[quaint fern]

well I cant really help ;-;

i play on na

[brave meteor]

That's okay

[opal surge]

Sac jade Vs pamber is a very nuanced question which depends on a lot of things

What Team do you play

[brave meteor]

Currently I'm running her with Ineffa, Flins, and Sucrose

But I'll probably run her with lunar bloom and luna crystallize too

[brave meteor]

Okay no, you're right! He's only available to friends from Saturday-Sunday

He's only available in single player mode on Fridays

[opal surge]

The main idea for sac jade Bina offfield is that in certain teams, when Bina is not naturally on SMS but on Aubade, it can be a DPS gain to build for 0 ER Bina with sac jade and bursting every other

But I think if you aren't very sure of what you're doing I'd say to stick to pamber

[brave meteor]

That's fair. I have her on Aubade at the moment because I have Ineffa and Lauma on SMS

And Aino

Maybe I need to try her with the R5 Jade I have on Neuvi and see what plays better

But also R5 Jade won't be accurate compared to R1

Jade would push her up to 80%+ CR, but her CDMG is 137% so idk if it's worth it. I can also go R5 Widsith but the one buff is useless on her with ATK

But maybe as a stat stick

[lyric cargo]

good builds would require you to swap some artifacts for that

Lauma gives 10% lunar bloom crit rate, so if your build is good for Flins teams it'll overcap crit rate with Lauma

[brave meteor]

I'm already at 40k HP so I think I need to try Widsith for the CDMG then

[lyric cargo]

in an extreme case, if you have c2 Nahida that's another 10% crit rate

[brave meteor]

No I wish. I have C0. I'm a collector more than an investor

[lyric cargo]

so my build here actually overcaps by 2% cr

[brave meteor]

I'd share mine but I've messed with it too recently for the stats to pull through

[quaint fern]

wait is stygian over for yall yet?

I literally cant wait for sunday to come bc I need bina books 🤣

[brave meteor]

Nope. Like 9 hours left here

[full sonnet]

Would a c4 jean be better than a c2 faruzan

Venti team

They do the same thing but then jean would give attack speed and healing

[brave meteor]

I prefer Jean for playstyle. Her res shred is 40% as well, where Faruzan's is 30%

Slowly winning with this build I think

[lyric cargo]

if you go to the paimon menu and select "exit to login screen" (or something like that), it should update enka immediately

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Stygian_Onslaught/2026-01-21

Disturbance Outbreak: 2026/01/21 10:00 - 2026/01/31 03:59

this much time is left for EU
https://seelie.me/planner

I calculated if I need to spend a fragile to reach the next 120, this morning:

18h 30m of resin generation left before stygian ends
18.5 * 7.5 resin per hour = 138 resin
172 resin
20/120 phase reward progress
⸺
138 + 172 + 20 = 330 = 120 + 120 + 90
I guess I'll spend one fragile to reach the next 120

[quaint fern]

Oh fair call

I should check that

[brave meteor]

Honestly I just use Hoyo's battle chronicle

[lyric cargo]

it has the upside of not having to update your profile

I think enka or akasha cards give a better overview, though

[brave meteor]

There we go

[hexed mango]

My Team is Diluc, Qiqi, Traveler and Lisa which Free 4 star should i pick

[lusty monolith]

Hey, so I've been struggling in floor 12 of the abyss especially against the chamber 1 PMA. Feels like my hu tao is doing no damage, any suggested improvements?

Current team is Hu tao, Xingqiu, Furina, Layla

[hexed mango]

Help meee please?

Im newwwww

[lusty monolith]

you're crossposting in general for help and then you're pinging someone who just joined to get some help themselves

[hexed mango]

I alr got lanyan

[lusty monolith]

not the play

[hexed mango]

I suck im sorry

[opal surge]

Layla is pretty bad here

She can wipe the hydro aura off the boss by triggering freeze, making Tao not vape, and you would like a healer for furina in her spot

Preferably Xilonen > Bennett ~= xianyun > jean, something along those lines

[lusty monolith]

noted

[lusty monolith]

Bennet REALLY helped me out in place of layla (i kinda forgot the boss can't be frozen), i was noticing i wasn't getting all my vapes, but i didn't think it was this bad. Thank you!!

[normal mist]

Guys im debating who to get for my free 4 star liyue char. Im f2p and already got xin and xiangling on c2 so would it be worth to even get c3 for either or go for lan yan (dont have her yet) as i just pulled columbina and using sucrose c2 atm

[young glen]

whjat do i do

[normal mist]

hit it

[young glen]

thanks

[sand kiln]

Columbina sig or Ineffa? Back from 4.0.

[lyric cargo]

what team is she on? I may have forgotten our earlier conversation

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?
i you haven't played since 4.0, the answer is likely neither

Bina's sig is a very small increase to team dps if she isn't on-field

and even if she's on-field for now;
if you plan to get Flins / Nefer / Zibai later, it'll retroactively become a small team dps increase

imo the only argument for the weapon banner is that it has two weapons for the Flins team
4-stars are bad though, so idk how worth it actually is

and a wide char pool is more important than vertical investment
do you have 3 very good teams already?

[lyric cargo]

oh dear god, hoyo's "share" layout
(I'd screenshot instead)

[viral mulch]

day 2 of lantern rite we get 9999x hp bar dendro crab woohoo

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I don't see enough good chars. I'd not go for weapons yet

most older chars have fallen off, unfortunately

[lyric cargo]

Yelan, Bina, Bennett, Fischl, Sucrose are still good
going for Zibai? Zhongli in 4th slot is decent there afaik

[lyric cargo]

Mona also good, with the recent buffs. though not in that many teams

[austere wolf]

Im playing her as a on-field dps, should i go for more cd or em, or is she good as she is rn?

[lyric cargo]

the sands is not very good (low substat count)

she gets 15% cr from her passive, 10% cr from lauma, 30% cr from the set
so 55% total I think

meaning she caps at 45% on the buildcard

[lyric cargo]

so overcapping by 6.4% cr

if you don't have Lauma, you wouldn't want to on-field Bina

lunar boom is only good with Lauma buffing her

[austere wolf]

That is the best and only hp% sands i got since i started farming that domain, and dont have lauma yet

And im playing either lunar-charged or lunar-crystalize

[lyric cargo]

oh, then she'd be off-field

on-fielding Bina is only for her special charged attack which is locked to lunar bloom

[austere wolf]

Oh..

so should i keep her on that set then or change it?

[lyric cargo]

do you have Ineffa?
lunar-charged with Fischl is likely your best team with her for now I think (?)
but maybe you'll go for Zibai, that'd be solid as well

or wait for lauma, but we don't know when she'll rerun

[austere wolf]

From Nod Krai i only have Columbina and aino

[lyric cargo]

off-field bina usually holds silken moon's serenade
sometimes aubade

[austere wolf]

I will try to get Zibai

[lyric cargo]

then likely Aubade

[austere wolf]

Alright, ty for the help!

[lyric cargo]

with silken moon on Illuga, assuming you get c2

[jaunty temple]

Who should i invest in here

[crude snow]

Get the free Xiangling from the abyss and invest in her. She will carry you

[jaunty temple]

ah i already have xiangling, im ar 60 i just feel like im lacking 4 star characters that are high level, which are the ones in the picture

Not sure if i should build aino tho since i have columbina and she doesnt have any cons

[crude snow]

Good units from above r:
Sucrose: heirei and grouping
Rosaria: raises crit rate and cryo app, you can raise her for Gaming for big dmg
Yaoyao: generally good healer and deepwood holder

But without data on ur other units, it's harder to tell about other units. Some specialized supports like Gorou and Koujo Sara can be really good for geo or electro units you have

[crude snow]

Aino without cons isn't that great, but she can hold a support set and the nod krai claymore so you can think about it

[jaunty temple]

Thank you, ill send here my other chars

Ill take note of sucrose and rhe others, i think im being limited bcs of imaginarium and abyss and its hard to slot other supports i have when they're not good with the current buffs

[crude snow]

Understandable. Looks like u have a good amount of electro and pyro dpses, so Cheveruse is also a viable unit for u since she buffs overload and heals

And like I said earlier, Kujou Sara is good for electro units, and u have Raiden and Chlorinde so she would be good as well

Also since u don't have Baizhu for Cyno, Yaoyao would be good to build since he is squishy

[jaunty temple]

Alright, thank you so much!

[lyric cargo]

Chevreuse

Sucrose (lvl70 for theater and give 4pc VV with full EM)
Ororon for theater / Mav overload
LanYan lvl70 + potentially c6 for bosses with elemental application bars that need filling

Faruzan (only if you play an anemo dps)

[thorn bay]

How much better is the new hexerei set than emblem

[fossil raven]

Here’s all my characters.
Which 4 star should I pick?
I have:
No Lanyan, No Gaming, C0 Xiangling, C0 Beidou, No Xinqiu, C0 Ningguang, No Chongyun, No Xinyan, No Yanfei, C0 Yunjin, C5 Yao Yao.

I wanna pull zibai but I’m on 50/50.

[thorn bay]

Gaming furina iansan Bennett can be great

[fossil raven]

Is yanfei bettter than him? Or is he still good at C0
Should I maybe get lanyan ir is it not worth since I’m already building mizuki?

[thorn bay]

Sadly is weaker

[thorn bay]

He’s pretty good at c0
You might want c1 for qol (extra heals)
He’s really good at c6
Mizuki is kinda 💩
You can go for lanyan she’s good

[fossil raven]

My mizuki is C1 so that’s something
So what’s my final pick you think?

[keen willow]

Xinqiu obviously

[thorn bay]

Also an option but can be obtained through shop

[random marten]

I just dropped $302 to get Bina, Ineffa and her weapon!
Unfortunately I got Binas weapon twice

[hazy lotus]

300 dollars aside why didn’t you set your path to ineffas weapon 😭

[random marten]

I did, I just got a double somehow

I got paid for overtime which I used it for myself!

[knotty sapphire]

I wonder what teams I can build out of my cast. I'm currently using and building an Arlecchino Wheelchair, but I'd like advice for a 2nd team so I can start attempting Abyss once they're built

[lyric cargo]

oh dear god, hoyo's 2-column "share" layout
(I'd screenshot instead)

[knotty sapphire]

I'm currently slowly building Columbina, Ineffa and Bennett for my Arle Wheelchair, so those 4 are out of the picture

[lyric cargo]

hmm, you seem to have skipped the 5★ supports for most of your units

the one premium team you can actually build would be:
Varesa, Iansan, Chevreuse, Mavuika

I could also see something like:
Chasca, Mona, Fischl, Bennett

my ideal teams if you had the supports would be these:

• Varesa, Iansan, Chevreuse, [Durin]
• Skirk, [Escoffier], [Furina]
• [Flins], Bina, Ineffa, Sucrose
• Mavuika, Bennett, [Citlali]

it's probably easiest to treat Mavuika as a support for now, given you have so many on-fielders and so few off-fielders

[quaint fern]

erm why are we wheelchairing arle

[knotty sapphire]

I do have Durin, so I could try that first one

[knotty sapphire]

It works, I like using Arle and Bina together and it's doing more damage than my old Arle team (old team did 13k dps, new one did 26k)

[quaint fern]

how is your arle only doing 13k dps 😭

[lyric cargo]

an alternative to the wheelchair team for Arle would be:
Bennett, Chevreuse, Fischl

I wonder what your best Bina Ineffa team is right now. from what @opal surge said, Chasca didn't perform too well with Bina+Ineffa

[knotty sapphire]

They're doing this while hella unbuilt, so I'm sure the damage will only go up as I level them, their weapons and talents up

[quaint fern]

erm why is arle doing 300k dps per rotation

i'm more concerned about your builds than anything else rn

[knotty sapphire]

Artifacts are absolute ass (it's my curse across all gachas), rest of the team isn't properly built

I'm used to running 4 DPS units together to fuck around in the Overworld, this is the first time I put any thought into an actual team comp

[lyric cargo]

oh, I missed him. Yeah, good to free up Mav then.

A good way to free up Bennett is also this:
Arle, Chev, Fischl, Durin

But I think I prefer Varesa overload over Arle overload, if the enemy isn't weak to pyro or something

[knotty sapphire]

I see.

[lyric cargo]

(dps per rotation?)

[quaint fern]

60 sec, I'm assuming 3 rot

oh wiat

[lyric cargo]

you mean dpr, right? typo?

[quaint fern]

damage not dps

yeah LOL my bad

[knotty sapphire]

I can clear Hard Stygian and up to Abyss 11 with little issue, but for 12 and for IT I need proper teams abd builds

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/
can you post buildcards for the chars you'd be using together?

[hazy lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/arlebina-arlecchino-columbina-gif-10955761069509388495

[knotty sapphire]

Ooooof, this might hurt, as they more or less only have the correct 4p bonus and only some.of the main stats

[hazy lotus]

sounds like you just need to do some more farming then

[knotty sapphire]

Here's the stats and builds of my Arle wheelchair (team I'm currently building and using)

[rugged sparrow]

holy

[knotty sapphire]

Probably. I'm currently farming for Mora and XP books. Once I have enough I'll go back to character mats

[hazy lotus]

r1 with defense goblet is diabolical

[rugged sparrow]

the artifacts are basically as good as non-existent

[quaint fern]

..... what is em/phys/atk

[rugged sparrow]

you need to use the correct main stats first

[quaint fern]

you need to stop overextending yourself

[hazy lotus]

u can stop leveling arle skill and ult now btw just focus na

[knotty sapphire]

Getting the right main stat is a pain in the ass in this game compared to HSR, so my artifacts here are kinda bad

[quaint fern]

this is the #1 piece of advice I give to newer players, but you need to just focus on a single team with an efficient domain to farm

[rugged sparrow]

did u unironically compare Genshin artifact farming

to HSR

[hazy lotus]

if ur teams aren’t even built yet i def wouldn’t be farming whimsy domain

that domain is ass i wouldn’t have touched it if i didn’t have c6

[rugged sparrow]

HSR is probably the worst in terms of "artifact" farming

[knotty sapphire]

Yeah? Relics and Artifacts are basically the same thing, the big difference is you can more easily craft Relics compared to Artifacts

[rugged sparrow]

but I digress, just farm more

[rugged sparrow]

agree to disagree

[knotty sapphire]

That's the plan. Once they're all at 90 with a 90 weapon and decent Talent levels I'll look at Artifacts again

[quaint fern]

also can we not do arle wheelchair

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

idk what chars they have

[hazy lotus]

it’s like a little over 100k dps isn’t it it’s not bad as far as arle teams go

[rugged sparrow]

it's still a functional Arle team fwiw

[quaint fern]

clorinde?

[rugged sparrow]

Clorinde in Arle team?

[quaint fern]

bineffa wheelchair 😭

[rugged sparrow]

or Clor wheelchair instead

[quaint fern]

yeah clor wheelchair

[rugged sparrow]

sure ig but then -2 team slots in Arle

which we don't know what they have

[quaint fern]

okay well ig they have a point.... arle wheelchair probably works

[quaint fern]

I mean they also have mavuika and varessa

which eat arle teammates alive OM

[rugged sparrow]

[knotty sapphire]

If I could just craft my Artifacts I would, being limited to 5 domain runs per day lowkey sucks

[rugged sparrow]

but you can...

you just don't have the currency

or don't know how, either or

[knotty sapphire]

You can only craft 2 per patch and the fuckass system only accepts already leveled artifacts as fuel

[rugged sparrow]

it also accepts the elixir bottles

[lyric cargo]

I haven't seen HSR, but we do have artifact crafting now

however I'd wait with using it. crafting attempts are limited, so best to use them when you're otherwise done with a domain and just need one last piece.
it's also best on chars who have few possible good substats.
Think a Varesa circlet, which only wants crit + atk% as useful substats

[knotty sapphire]

No clue what that is

[quaint fern]

you can get them from spending sigils in the newer regions

[knotty sapphire]

Sigils?

You mean the exploration wax thingies?

[hazy lotus]

if u go to ur inventory and hit salvage it turns ur 4 star and below artis into arti exp (elixirs)

[lyric cargo]

exp bottles

you might need your exp to level artifacts
but you can choose "salvage" in the artifact inventory to turn your 1/2/3/4★ artifacts into exp bottles which is more space efficient (doesn't lose any exp)

[knotty sapphire]

I don't currently have any, but I'll keep it in mind

[lyric cargo]

if you need a lot of exp, you can consider a quick daily investigation route

or just explore. chests give artifacts

[knotty sapphire]

Yeah I gotta explore more

[quaint fern]

on the topic of artifacts, why not just farm the nod krai domain

[knotty sapphire]

But ye, used all 4☆ and below artifacts to level up my current artifacts

[quaint fern]

get your sets for bineffa

quickly get a sms set for bina then move onto the newer domain where you can build out fischl, durin, ienffa, etc.

then run something like bineffa core + durin + sucrose or smth

[rugged sparrow]

they have Durin too?

[quaint fern]

they have a LOT

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

.

they are trying to build too many characters at once I suppose

[rugged sparrow]

so it's the case of like

someone who plays just to pull but not to farm kinda?

[knotty sapphire]

?
I thought Bina and Ineffa usrd the same set

[rugged sparrow]

bina uses SMS (Silken Moon), Ineffa uses Aubade (for the most part)

[knotty sapphire]

Guess game8 was wrong

[quaint fern]

oh lord game8

[rugged sparrow]

do NOT use game8

or any other "gaming journalist" website

fuckall accuracy in terms of char builds

https://tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds use this

[quaint fern]

it's complicated but if you're running the bineffa core you can basically just assume bina on silken moon serenade and ineffa on aubade

[knotty sapphire]

.... I nay have used game8 for all my builds across HSR, Genshin and ZZZ

[rugged sparrow]

[knotty sapphire]

More or less, I haven't interacted with the endgame much yet, so I mostly pull who I vibe with and play around in the overworld

[rugged sparrow]

ye just gotta farm/play more

no workaround

[knotty sapphire]

But ye I'll need to farm more since I stopped spending in Genshin, so I can't just pull for Cons like I do in HSR

[quaint fern]

I think your best course of action is to farm what I recommended, then you can later branch off and farm/strongbox sets for your varessa mavuika OL team

[forest venture]

game 8???

[quaint fern]

you can move durin to the varessa team once you get better teammates for bineffa

so overall decently efficient I think

you'll want to strongbox VV first for sucrose while farming the nod krai domains, just try to get all EM mainstats, that's all she needs

[knotty sapphire]

If I keep this up in a few weeks I'll have enough Mora and XP and will be able to go back to character mats, and once I have 2 teams of people at level 90/90 and at least level 6 talents I'll start looking at Artifacts

[quaint fern]

please dont just blindly lvl 90

for most atk scaling characters it's sort of useless

[knotty sapphire]

Huh
You mean to tell me getting the character to max level isn't the first priority?

[quaint fern]

usually 80/90, but you can 90 ineffa and bina

[hazy lotus]

it is extremely expensive for relatively low gain

[quaint fern]

sucrose level can be fuck all, and durin you can leave at 80/90

[hazy lotus]

though hp scalers and reaction based carries get more out of it

[knotty sapphire]

So what I'm hearing is that I could leave Bennett at 80 in my Arle team?

[quaint fern]

honestly you can do pretty much nothing to sucrose and she'll probably be fine

[quaint fern]

for now yes, it's really just a marginal increase

[knotty sapphire]

Well then in that case I'll get Ineffa and Bennett to 80 before I go for 90 on them or Bina (Arle's already 90 so she's fine)

[quaint fern]

I would not worry about arle

[quaint fern]

. I really think this is one of your better options for getting a usable team up and running in maybe a month or two

[knotty sapphire]

My biggest current issue is my lack of mora and xp books

[quaint fern]

there should be plenty if you do lantern rite event and do exploration

honestly, make ineffa your top priority to get leveled

[knotty sapphire]

I'll do the event. And I'll see what I can do with exploration, as I suck at it

[hazy lotus]

wdym you suck at it

[quaint fern]

tbh I would just leave bina where she is right now and focus on ineffa, leveling ineffa talents, and getting a usable set on her

you should be doing WAY more than 26k dps by the time you're able to level 90 characters

[knotty sapphire]

Been playing since Raiden's 1st banner and jusy got my 1st 100% yesterday

Even with Mavuika's bigger elemental sight I just miss shit

[quaint fern]

you just need to be a bit more tactical about investment avenues

[quaint fern]

ignore mondstadt

go nod krai first, natlan second then fontaine third

I would honestly just ignore exploration of the other regions for now, as it's not as rewarding nor as quick as newer regions

[hazy lotus]

tbf some of the earlier regions are a pain in the ass to 100% i left majority of sumeru at ~80/90% until i was desperate for a few spare pulls

[quaint fern]

ah hell naw

I dont talk about sumeru 💀

the forest remembers........

[hazy lotus]

legit never felt as burnt out as sumeru

3 deserts like you playing with me rn

[quaint fern]

it's a pain in the ass to get anywhere

dont get me started about desert before we got maps

[hazy lotus]

the underground lol

what were they thinking……

[quaint fern]

idk how they managed to make a region with worse exploration than inazuma

I'd take a week long quest chain any day of the week to not have another desert

[neon wave]

[rugged sparrow]

fuck sumeru desert

[neon wave]

isok you can have wrong opinions 💔

[hazy lotus]

this jit cracks deserts

[quaint fern]

you like that shit

[neon wave]

yeah I enjoyed desert

[quaint fern]

racist lamp ;-;

[knotty sapphire]

Oh, really? Allright

AR 56 yet I'm still a noob ass xd

[knotty sapphire]

Uhhh what's a strongbox

[rugged sparrow]

..

it's on alchemy table

you can convert 3 artifacts into 1 artifact of your choosing

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Artifact_Strongbox

[knotty sapphire]

Ah, only accepts 5☆ artifacts
Won't get much use out of it now, but I bet it'll come in handy once I reach a point where I can spend all my daily resin on Artifacts

[true oar]

Oh I almost forgotten

What weapon for Escoffier? Sig weapon?

[rugged sparrow]

depends on what u have / team

sig is obviously her bis but it's not like a must pull

[torpid torrent]

I can't find the last one

[forest venture]

you can max the meeting place to scan all oculi

[strange scarab]

are you having a trouble with the chest or what

[haughty lotus]

What’s she eating

[sand kiln]

Raiden no more an option? I want to use her, is she at least a viable dps with lunar charged ?

[sand kiln]

Probably the hili who’s meeting his maker

[sand kiln]

Kind sir, can you elaborate?

I have sumeru onwards no occuli collected. Maybe 30 something but not full.

[ruby schooner]

Where do i get more of these types of xiao lanterns? (⁠ ⁠；⁠∀⁠；⁠)

[earnest tapir]

I have a guaranteed and 85 wishes, but I can't decide whether to pull Ineffa or Zibai. I like both, but I'm undecided. What do you recommend me? The characters with stars are the ones I have built.

[knotty sapphire]

god this will take me forever

any tips?

[strange scarab]

Play the game

[young glen]

how do i get the last 17% theres no more chests and occuli

also i want to build a niche character any suggestions

[drowsy shuttle]

@lyric cargo would a char with 80% crit rate and 180% crit dmg do more than one with 60% crit rate and 180% crit dmg

[drowsy shuttle]

kirara

[cedar flint]

Well ye obviously

there is no stat decrease here only increase

[drowsy shuttle]

no but the crit dmg is the same

[cedar flint]

well I don’t get the question cus of it if you increase a stat and don’t decrease anything else ofc it would be better

[drowsy shuttle]

?

isnt rate just the chance of critting

[lyric cargo]

yeah, sure. 80% chance to deal +180% dmg is more average dmg than 60% chance to do the same

[cedar flint]

well yes and if you crit more you do more dmg

[drowsy shuttle]

but would the dmg increase ignoring crit rate

[lyric cargo]

genshin combat involves so many hits, you should just work with the average

[cedar flint]

wdym by that

[drowsy shuttle]

ohh ok

[drowsy shuttle]

idk

[cedar flint]

if you don’t build crit on your dps you’re cooked is the tldr

well for most characters that is

[drowsy shuttle]

is 62^% good

[cedar flint]

the closer to 100% the better

ofc without sacrificing too much of other stats

the ideal ratio is rate 1:2 crit dm

until you reach 100 crit rate that is

[drowsy shuttle]

is 62:223 good

[cedar flint]

below average

[drowsy shuttle]

oh-

[cedar flint]

70-80 is decent anything about it is good

And obviously 100 is ideal

[drowsy shuttle]

so my alrechhino still needs building 😭 😭

[young glen]

kirara kinda boring tho

[drowsy shuttle]

true

[cedar flint]

kirara cat gameplay is kinda cute tho

[young glen]

wbg lan yan

oprr heizo looks cool

[neon wave]

CR circlet is always an option

[drowsy shuttle]

Would it be that serious if i dacrifice some crit dmg

[neon wave]

Well trading CD for CR should be better in your case, assuming similar quality pieces

[finite parrot]

Is Columbina viable without flins, nefer or that deer woman ?

[drowsy shuttle]

Unfortunately not

[drowsy shuttle]

Ty

[finite parrot]

Sad. I wanted to pull her because she floats when she walks

[drowsy shuttle]

Shes good with ineffa wnd nruvillete

Assuming u have them

[finite parrot]

Nope.

But I do have nilou

If that matters

Nahida too

[young glen]

how bad is deheya

[rugged sparrow]

if you have Lauma (and bina), they're basically the new Niloom premium team
though might need c1 Lauma for sustain

[finite parrot]

I don't have lauma

Can it work?

[rugged sparrow]

well just giving a heads up in case you're interested to play Niloom premium

[rugged sparrow]

no Lauma is the one that's absolutely necessary

but if you pull bina into Lauma eventually it's an option

[finite parrot]

Shit. Can you recommend some team that doesn't require that robot girl, lauma, nefer or flins ?

[rugged sparrow]

with bina? it's probably just lunarcharge or lunar crystallize
something like bina/Fischl/Sucrose/+1
or Navia/bina/Zhongli/+1

[finite parrot]

I quit playing the game since the moon region launched so I don't have those characters

[rugged sparrow]

you can always pull on their re-runs

unless they don't interest you, which is another story

Zibai is also upcoming, and since she's a lunar crystallize DPS, you can safely assume that she'll want bina in her team

[finite parrot]

I was wondering if she can work with nilou or nahida

[rugged sparrow]

Nilou wants Lauma more than bina

[bright cape]

is zibai good?

my navia doesn't do much these days

[finite parrot]

Btw I don't know who is bina lol

[rugged sparrow]

Colum(bina)

[finite parrot]

Ohhh

[rugged sparrow]

can't really say how she performs since she's only in CC server

[finite parrot]

Columbina-raiden-fischl-sucrose
Will it work ?

[rugged sparrow]

it works sure, no sustain team though

[bright cape]

i am only worried for stygain shilled towards her

[rugged sparrow]

also Raiden EC isn't the most amazing

[bright cape]

i always struggle with navia

[finite parrot]

Sustain for ? ER ?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean current stygian doesn't have a specific shill towards her so that's a good thing ig?

[rugged sparrow]

sustain = heals/shields

[bright cape]

true. may be all lunar shills are same

[rugged sparrow]

Knuckle Duckle unfortunately exists

[finite parrot]

Oh yah damn. Can I replace sucrose with sayu ?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean you can, it being good is another story (like I said regarding EC Raiden above)

[viral mulch]

green crab red crab

crabs are evil in teyvat

[rugged sparrow]

o yeah dendro crab too

forgot about it cuz literally Lauma just trivializes it

[viral mulch]

lunarbloom is the strongest
lunarcharged is the most shilled
lunarcrystallize got copes and dreams

[bright cape]

then there will be one for her too

[viral mulch]

surely a 5* lcr support surely lcr shill boss in future

[rugged sparrow]

hopefully not

[bright cape]

i don't remember any local legends being shilled with lcr

[viral mulch]

there isnt one

[bright cape]

oh thank god then.

[rugged sparrow]

ig it makes sense cuz Zibai is 2nd half

having a local legend/stygian tailored for lunar crystallize for a unit in 2nd half is kinda

[viral mulch]

geo shill is just legatus golem or that plunge thing getting its regular draft notice

[rugged sparrow]

whispers wolf lord

[viral mulch]

sometimes wolflord if hoyo feels like trollin harder

[rugged sparrow]

though that thing only has like 5 HP

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rat-from-the-sky-mavuika-genshin-impact-gif-13902713010379164806

[viral mulch]

the one thing that shouldnt exist is stygian wolflord

imagine bro with 15m hp

[rugged sparrow]

stygian wolflord
instant shield

and 20 wolf heads

[bright cape]

break 6 heads instead of 3

[rugged sparrow]

default is 3

[viral mulch]

that aint a wolflord thats a wolf cult

[bright cape]

oh yah. my bad

[rugged sparrow]

why stop at 6

make it split into 9
breaking 9 doesn't fully break the shield, u still need geo app

cooking the most vile shit

only 10s stun duration and instant shield again

[viral mulch]

legatus golem has those difficult bossfight variant so surely theyll just use that

[rugged sparrow]

that annoying ahh construct

[bright cape]

now thing is how effective lunar crystallise damage for geo shield

[viral mulch]

carefully placed to not be able to zhongli hold e oneshot is vile

[rugged sparrow]

no clue

[viral mulch]

normal crystallize is pretty bad at least

[finite parrot]

In this set up, who could be a suitable replacement for Lauma??

[rugged sparrow]

watch ppl just speedrun legatus with rat

[rugged sparrow]

no one

[viral mulch]

me

[rugged sparrow]

Lauma is simply irreplaceable for bloom (and bloom-adjacent) teams

you can use some cope options like Baizhu

[finite parrot]

Who did people use before lauma came out?

[bright cape]

i think u would replace columbina here

[rugged sparrow]

on Niloom ppl used Yaoyao / Baizhu / Kaveh depending on the 2nd hydro slot

there's also Collei and DMC but

[finite parrot]

Kusoooooo. I should have got lauma when I had the chance

Fk this

I knew those mellons weren't only for show

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

"geo shill"

looks inside
"rat from the sky"

[bright cape]

May tomorrow be the day I get a good weapon

[rugged sparrow]

amen

[bright cape]

anything other than skyward atlas n i will be happy

[rugged sparrow]

amos

or the fabled

[bright cape]

fabled?

[rugged sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/skyward-pride-genshin-impact-wish-gif-24332351

[young glen]

should i reshape tis or is it fine

for yoimiya

[bright cape]

i wouldn't mind

[rugged sparrow]

is that even on-set

3-starter, 2 useful subs only, low rolls on the cr

[opal surge]

think I cant buy mont5ly pulls again tomorrow

[bright cape]

it's already very good. not worth it

[opal surge]

[young glen]

offset

[rugged sparrow]

I wouldn't

[full sonnet]

Baizu yaoyao and collei

[rugged sparrow]

I'd just keep it that way until I get a better + on-set for re-rolls

[young glen]

well i legit have not a single other goblet

[young glen]

aight

should i still run 4 pc shime or nah

[rugged sparrow]

I mean that's Yoi's bis barring things like 4p Mare

[bright cape]

i was thinking of skyward spine

but navia would love pride

[rugged sparrow]

do u not have anything else better

[bright cape]

i am using melusine claymore

zero ER% from her artifacts

[rugged sparrow]

Pride would be nice ig then yeah

[bright cape]

lemme show u. i recently finished her build

[full sonnet]

My favorite sword on navia is the ultimate mega magic sword

[young glen]

is 4p good?

[rugged sparrow]

4p what

[viral mulch]

yosho hai yoi yoi

[rugged sparrow]

Shime or Mare

[young glen]

mare

[rugged sparrow]

Mare strictly requires Furina

[young glen]

i got furina

[rugged sparrow]

then yeah 4p Mare is good on Yoi

[bright cape]

i am using that too

[young glen]

what team should i run then

yoi furina shield maybe?

[rugged sparrow]

smth like Yoi Furi Lan Yan Bennett

[young glen]

also would furina run gtroupe

[full sonnet]

It's got everything she wants 50% attack and er

[young glen]

what does lan yan do

[full sonnet]

It even matches

[hazy lotus]

does this team break 60k

[rugged sparrow]

4p VV + shield + TTDS

[rugged sparrow]

I'd be surprised if it breaks 50k

[full sonnet]

My aino has it now tho and she's got spine

[young glen]

does yoimiya ado like no dmg anymore 💔 😭

[rugged sparrow]

she has okay dmg but she's strictly single target

[bright cape]

sadly she wants crit rate out of all stats

@rugged sparrow i am done with this.

[viral mulch]

never did

[rugged sparrow]

26 subs only

[young glen]

i swear she was insane when inazuma released

[rugged sparrow]

time to strongbox more

[young glen]

💔

[rugged sparrow]

she never was, Tao was basically still at the top of her game

[full sonnet]

No food

[rugged sparrow]

the only good thing Yoi provides over Tao was range

[viral mulch]

hutao did more dmg even back then gg

[young glen]

ok would yoimiya or heizo do more dps

[rugged sparrow]

which is a reasonable advantage for certain match ups like Thunder Manif

[bright cape]

wow. u got a good build with melusine claymore

[viral mulch]

heizou cus he can vv drive bineffa wheelchair better fe

[bleak moth]

does rewinding in imaginarium theater reverse the vigor consumed by characters or not?

[bright cape]

i dunno if that's even possible

[rugged sparrow]

this with UOMMS?

[young glen]

what if i dont have bina or ineffa

[viral mulch]

also the game was primitive enough for lmb spam to be considered "comfy"

[rugged sparrow]

and then comes Neuv with hold LMB

[full sonnet]

Spine but i could try to get that

[viral mulch]

even ayato

[rugged sparrow]

Ayagoat

[viral mulch]

i will dispatch of you in 8 rotations

[rugged sparrow]

*11

shing shing shing

[young glen]

i just wanna build a cool character if yoimiya is boring ion wanna build her

[rugged sparrow]

I mean that's subjective if u want to build cool/boring chars

but if we're strictly talking about dmg then

[young glen]

i mean ion wanna spam lmb all dayu

[rugged sparrow]

u'd need 280cv build with UOMMS with that ratio

or closer to 270cv actually but yeah

[young glen]

what would heizos best team be

[hazy lotus]

i actually managed to hit this yesterday with my yelan build after rerolling goblet

[rugged sparrow]

show

[hazy lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865772611400368169/1466946965114847242/4c926a69-634f-4e23-9da3-b443193706b4.png?ex=697f4113&is=697def93&hm=3bdc5e2c6cee56a7fd5ea82252ceb4ed8096ea5637fc405e1c73e6be3930668c&

[full sonnet]

Cv?

[rugged sparrow]

holy

[rugged sparrow]

crit value

[full sonnet]

My blast does like 2 million damage on a furina team

[rugged sparrow]

okay?

[full sonnet]

Is that not good enough?

[viral mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-lying-wong-gif-5558347777370316415

[rugged sparrow]

damage showcases isn't a good metric for char builds
go 36* abyss / do fearless stygian at the bare minimum

[cedar flint]

pretty build

[cedar flint]

what set

[full sonnet]

That's the best crit ratio i can get with magic sword

[rugged sparrow]

Faruzan (c6) / Furina / Bennett / Heizou most likely but Heizou's dmg profile is kinda

[cedar flint]

Otherwise 60 crit rate for Navia is abysmal

[young glen]

dont have c6 faru

[full sonnet]

Why does my kinich feel bad with r4 earth Shaker

[rugged sparrow]

counter-post

[young glen]

ig faru c6 is a must have for anemo dps

[cedar flint]

cus he is a fairly bad character

[rugged sparrow]

for today's standards I'd say so

[viral mulch]

my 2p sms navia wins all

[rugged sparrow]

wot

[young glen]

wb rosaria

[cedar flint]

counter post

[rugged sparrow]

are we really "120k DPS or die"

[cedar flint]

Well he is on the lower end of Natlan dps and his gameplay is abysmal

[rugged sparrow]

so 120k DPS or die got it

[cedar flint]

chasca is at least fun to use

[rugged sparrow]

"fun"

looks inside
holds LMB

riveting gameplay

[cedar flint]

better than whatever kinich is doing

[viral mulch]

tbf his gameplay is kinda lol

[rugged sparrow]

it's just funny that the immediate "fun" comparison is a gameplay that's equal to a mental capacity of a toddler

[cedar flint]

all that to still be bottom 2 Natlan dps 🥀

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

theres like tiny bits of little inconveniences that somehow makes it so u have to spin for 3 waves instead of 2 waves and that fucks the combo up enough to be 4e instead of 5e per rot

[rugged sparrow]

6es or bad tbh

[young glen]

what character out of this list is the most fun for YOU guys

[viral mulch]

150 er kinich to q every rot fr

[rugged sparrow]

🗣️ 🔥

[cedar flint]

off field dendro kinich build

put the serenade into the bag

[viral mulch]

kinich q for cyno dendro app for full burst uptime

or multiwave i mean

[rugged sparrow]

wdym just c2 Baizhu

[cedar flint]

put cyno into the retirement home

[viral mulch]

c2 emilie hb

[rugged sparrow]

🗣️ 🔥

[cedar flint]

ig at least you can play bina ineffa wheelchair cyno

[rugged sparrow]

u mean bineffa everyone

[viral mulch]

he gets both bineffa wheelchair and lauma hb wheelchair
true greed

[cedar flint]

I wonder how would life look like if dehya mizuki cyno and the others would be good on release

[young glen]

is deheya good

should i say viable

[rugged sparrow]

viable* sure

[cedar flint]

useable sure

She is pretty

[rugged sparrow]

*(c6 for DPS, otherwise utility/defensive slot)

[cedar flint]

and she can hold tenacity

What else do you need in life

[young glen]

c6 is out of the question, on to the next character

yanfei dos 🤑

[cedar flint]

in some distant reality dehya burst is considered normal attacks and she triggers yelan burst

[bright cape]

nice

[rugged sparrow]

thinking of strongboxing more but I don't play her enough

[young glen]

wait whta about dps beidou

[opal surge]

im playing her again now

lcryst has a nice gradient

[young glen]

or dps noelle

[rugged sparrow]

they're ok

better than Heizou surely

[young glen]

what kind of invesment do i need for beidou

[hazy lotus]

i like noelle dps

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[opal surge]

beidou is unplayable

building 4* dps as a new account just doesnt work

[young glen]

i have c3 beidou and c0 noelle

[opal surge]

u dont have the artifacts to make bad dps workable

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

it just feels terrible

[young glen]

i have 0 c6 4 stars

except for fischl