📌gimshim-help

[lyric cargo]

So crit is still important, it's not just Nefer using them

should be 18 quills used by Nefer, 15 by Bina?
so half the team's Lauma damage uses Bina's crit multiplier

crit rate is +15% from her passive, +10% from Lauma, +10% from c2 Nahida. So overcapping by 2%

[neon harness]

F12 teams?

[fleet reef]

what is the best boss or Flins showcase?

[lyric cargo]

Can do Mavuika first half, Skirk second half (keeping weasels frozen to hopefully avoid the shield)

Venti first half could also be fine, but Mav actually worked better for me. Granted, I have her c2.
My original clear was with Neuv + Venti, but it was a lot harder

second half can also be almost anything. 4th member Xianyun or Zhongli lets you break the weasel shields, or you can just bruteforce it.

for 12-3-1, you need to get the enemy's pyro gauge half full before you can do damage. Its resistances drop after 50% gauge.
for 12-3-2, anyone can plunge using the boss's gravity field to break the shield. It actually deals good damage, so defensive utility is useful.

[lyric cargo]

any electro-charged shill boss in stygian, imo.
Fearless or dire, depending on how impressive you want it to be

[neon harness]

for first half, mono pyro or is vape with furina ok, never fought the boss on 12-3-1 even overworld before

[lyric cargo]

next stygian, starting January 21:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Stygian_Onslaught/2026-01-21
the shock trooper should be perfect for him

[lyric cargo]

any team with enough pyro app to halfway fill the bar is okay

Mav should be able to do it on her own

[neon harness]

lmao nvm forgot skirk wanted furina too

[fleet reef]

thank you! btw i just realised we are added as friends lol

[lyric cargo]

you can look at some teams used here:
https://m.youtube.com/@chetevii/videos

also to get an impression of what the fight is like and how close it was

[fleet reef]

i remember you tho i just wasn'T using discord for almost 1-15 years

[neon harness]

so current set up is mauvrika xiangling benny xilonen, skirk furina yelan diona

[lyric cargo]

here's what I used, it worked well for all three chambers
c2r1, but the gauge breaking part should still work (I don't have it recorded)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1455292025602834605/Mav-AoE-chamber.mp4?ex=695431d0&is=6952e050&hm=36bf0ba465c2ab183cdbd0d884a988a4d504504e375533b0265453ebfe5aacbd&

[serene sandal]

now i have columbina whats my best team after neuv furina ineffa kazu

[lyric cargo]

is this for this abyss, or in general?

or next stygian?

[serene sandal]

probs js general, def not stygian

[lyric cargo]

you can use Bina over Furina if you ever need her on another team
Navia, Bina, Ineffa, Zhongli maybe.
Hutao Bina Ineffa Yelan.
You'd have to figure out who to use in that slot in the Neuv team in that case

[serene sandal]

ah ok, alot of my neuvi dmg relies on the extra dmg that the lunar reaction gives (or wtv it is ineffa does w hydro), so im a bit reluctant to take her out

[fierce sparrow]

ayaka escoffier bina + one another is it good?

[lyric cargo]

Bina is mostly a lunar bloom char.
she can fit in the final slot on Furina Escoffier teams, but only because there isn't really a great last slot option

[lyric cargo]

for me it depends on what other teams I'd be using
stygian is always the target I build for, even if you don't have enough teams yet (you will eventually if you build with it in mind)
usually the same builds still work in abyss and theater and overworld without changes

the supports often limit what team combinations I can bring.
Let's say I bring a Citlali team, a Furina team, and a Bina team.

Neuv can use either Furina or Bina now, so it could be like
Neuv + Furina; Hutao + Bina + Ineffa
Neuv + Bina + Ineffa; Skirk + Escoffier + Furina

[sacred patrol]

Will we get the last mail before columbina's banner ends?

[opal surge]

I mean the dates are written there

But yes

[sinful mirage]

i have columbina - my only nodkrai char. im planning to get ineffa OR zibai, whos more worth it?

the thing with ineffa is shes flexible, while for zibai, i can have her "premium team".. BUT some are saying that you need C6 illuga to bring out zibai's dmg. (which in case that we cannot guarantee C6 illuga when pulling in zibai's banner.) HELP

[rugged sparrow]

1. we dont have Zibai / Illuga's numbers yet
2. ppl defaulting to c6 4-star to bring out "true potential" is sometimes being disingenuous unless it's like a c6 Sara case, at which there are probably better alternatives to them

in any case you're overthinking it. if your goal isn't clearing Dire Stygian, then just pull whoever

[lyric cargo]

my impression of Zibai is that it's a char that wants you to go deep on her banner.

No 5★ support to pull, like for Flins / Nefer, so they expect you to pull a Zibai constellation instead and get Illuga cons along the way.

For most 5★s, c2 is a bigger increase than c1. And that's what it'll likely take to get c6 on a 4★.

But yeah, don't know the full kit yet.

I see three options:

• get Ineffa now. Have a lunar team but stay flexible
• decide at the end of the Ineffa banner, when Zibai's full kit is known and you have full information
• get Zibai and likely go for cons

Ineffa will likely be a sidegrade + shield for Nefer / Zibai teams, not really an upgrade. But can still be used, so pulling her doesn't lock you into a Flins team.

[viral mulch]

zibau 🥀

[rugged sparrow]

should I craft a pyro goblet already for Klee on the new set @viral mulch

surely it won't be disappointing

[viral mulch]

why not

[rugged sparrow]

gonna need 1 more bottle though from the last part of the map

[lyric cargo]

can't off-piece it?
dmg% goblets have an extra possible useful sub compared to sands and circlets
so I'd tend to craft those instead, and off-piece the goblet

[rugged sparrow]

I mean I can ig but I'd rather have on-set

[lyric cargo]

well, depending on how good your best off-piece for each slot is

[rugged sparrow]

I have 0 usable piece rn anyway

[lyric cargo]

I'm still unsure whether to farm the domain

I'd get the witch set for Venti and Durin, but don't really have a use for the lunar reaction set while the Nefer team is my only lunar team

I farmed it yesterday, but doing Bina talents for now

getting them to 1 7 7 maybe, before stygian. I'm delaying theater until I have talents, as well

[rugged sparrow]

same, no use for the lunar set

tried pulling Ineffa so I can maybe use it on her but nah, got peeluc

and now I have unused Fractured Halo until her next re-run

[viral mulch]

what if i lowkey just afk on next abyss

[rugged sparrow]

splendid idea

[opal surge]

I'm farming the new sets but if Nicole doesn't use the hexen Set I will be suing hoyo

[rugged sparrow]

I mean she doesn't have moonwheel right

[viral mulch]

randomly scales off def

[rugged sparrow]

oh nvm u meant the Hexerei

[rugged sparrow]

Xinyan looking ahh

[rugged sparrow]

still dont get why Genshin devs is allergic on putting new sets immediately on strongbox

HSR/ZZZ can do it, why cant Genshin

[opal surge]

Be glad that you can craft new sets pre strongboy

[rugged sparrow]

can also do that in HSR/ZZZ

"yes please I'd like to play my brand new char on worse sets that are probably 10% behind their bis"

[crude dirge]

no lvl 100 furryna?

[opal surge]

Me looking at My level 70 Bina + ineffa with 2p2p on ineffa

Low-key if I wouldn't be coping that the hexen Set will be good on Nicole anyway I wouldn't be farming Aubade for ineffa

[rugged sparrow]

I need Hexerei for Klee

I don't want stinking 2p2p anymore after 5+ years

she finally gets a crit set (other than MH)

[viral mulch]

i was thinking about it cus i like furina but prioritized meta a lil more

but then i dont have the right to say that cus both lauma and nefer are lv100s despite getting literally nothing

[rugged sparrow]

are u even short on masterless stella fortuna

[viral mulch]

i have leftovers but i wanna save some in case i mald on stygian hard enough and crave that increase

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

slightly better survival, for those sustainless nefer teams

mine are also both lvl90
I had so many exp books

but now I leveled more chars for theater, and I've actually run out

[viral mulch]

my lauma heals theres more than plenty sustain

[thorn bay]

Kawaii over meta cuz kawaii never dies

[lyric cargo]

I'll see how p-amber Bina feels

maybe I get c2 Lauma, but the team is probably strong enough as it is.

(c0r1 Nefer, c0 Lauma, c0 Bina, c2 Nahida)

my only goal being to full-clear every fearless stygian, abyss, and theater

[feral reef]

can someone give me a durin team

[feral reef]

p amber bina is very good for er reqs so run it anyway

[lyric cargo]

without context, that's basically listing out all the possible options?

he's a versatile support and off-field dps, shreds enemy res to AGED and pyro

so like
Venti teams
Navia teams
Kinich teams
Varesa overload
Arlecchino overload

[feral reef]

i js lowkey dont know what to do with him

oh yeah memesicles told me about femboy team
might give that a shot

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

[feral reef]

can send

just realised my columbina cup is level 0 hahah

[lyric cargo]

that kind of thing happens to me every theater, when I move a bunch of equipment around 😅

[lyric cargo]

Varesa, Arlecchino, or Chasca teams would be the obvious option

Varesa now has a sidegrade option to Mavuika,

allowing you to go for something like Mavuika Citlali melt on a separate team

Same for Arle and Chasca, they now have a team option that doesn't necessarily want Bennett

[feral reef]

i wish i could go mav citlali 😔

[feral reef]

would the rin take away mavuika for those teams?

[lyric cargo]

Varesa, Durin, Chevreuse, Iansan/Fischl

Arlecchino, Durin, Chevreuse, Fischl

Chasca, Durin, Mona, Fischl
(any of the three can be replaced. Bennett/Furina/Iansan are options.)

any of them can be run alongside the Mav team now, without support overlap

[feral reef]

oh my fucking god finnally

now can do mavuika durin team lunar in so

[amber pebble]

hey need help ppl , is 4pc gt good on ineffa ? does her lunar damage scale off the 4pc effect?

[lyric cargo]

no, lunar reaction damage doesn't scale with dmg%

they made a set very similar to gt though, that works

Aubade of Morningstar and Moon

2pc: 80em

4pc: When the equipping character is off-field, Lunar Reaction DMG is increased by 20%. When the party's Moonsign Level is at least Ascendant Gleam, Lunar Reaction DMG will be further increased by 40%. This effect will disappear after the equipping character is active for 3s.

[amber pebble]

oh thanks a lot buddy !

[dusk needle]

I went into this banner phase hoping to get both Columbina and Ineffa with only about 150 pulls saved. I probably could’ve saved more, but I was busy for a big chunk of the last two patches and only logged in whenever I could lol. I pulled Bina first because I’ve wanted her ever since we first set foot in Nod-Krai and I because I really love her.

I ended up getting Bina after 126 pulls, then grinded the new region to hit pity on Ineffa only to lose the 50/50 to C4 Diluc. Now I’m basically scrounging for primos, and it’s not looking great since I’ve already 100%’d all regions and finished all available world quests, so I’m pretty much out of obvious primo sources.

Am I cooked here, or is there still a realistic way to get her? I’m currently sitting at 11 pity.

[feral reef]

lantern rite starts this half so that should help

[wide dirge]

Is this a good build on Columbina?

[rugged sparrow]

it's good amount of cv ig. build looks good in that regard
can't say about the ER since it depends™ on team

180 ER with pamber is hopefully enough for most teams (outside Stygian )

[wide dirge]

Yeah, I decided it was better safe than sorry

[wide dirge]

I'm out of the mines 🗣️ 🔥

[rugged sparrow]

HP is a bit short from her buff cap but it's w/e ig, not the end of the world

[wide dirge]

I could get her to lv 95, but I want to max Furina first

I keep losing 50/50s 🗣️ 🔥

[rugged sparrow]

that's... certainly one way to get her to 35k HP

[lyric cargo]

prioritize skill over burst.

NA talent is probably wasted, it scales with atk?
or does the lunar bloom hit scale with it
are you using her on-field?

[wide dirge]

I'm just gonna triple crown her

[rugged sparrow]

based

[shut parrot]

Anyone got tips im making new acc in genshin

[wide dirge]

Enjoy the game, no need to rush

[rugged sparrow]

also how the f are u getting lv9 talents

it needs 4 weekly mats no

or 3, I'm getting senile

[wide dirge]

I slaugthered dottore right after the quest finished. Then I claimed the first time defeat of the weekly boss (3 mats), then I converted everything

[lyric cargo]

this might be of some help

[wide dirge]

Man, those are some good memories. Finding how to optimize resin spending

And Ventis who kept ulting my artifacts off the map 😭

[thorn bay]

Is this good?

Or do I have to prototype amber with er sands

[lyric cargo]

can get 1 booss run + 1 first-time clear reward I think

can that give.. 6 mats with conversion and high-roll on the clear?

[wide dirge]

Yes

[rugged sparrow]

there's 1st team clear rewards?

[lyric cargo]

I'd rather give her p-amber

or fav

[thorn bay]

Okay so prototype amber with er sands it is

[lyric cargo]

or hp% sands, depending on the team

[thorn bay]

Can I use aino with her on nefer

I don’t like using sucrose

[lyric cargo]

ER req in Nefer team is like 150%, since you're giving up on bursting first rotation anyways in stygian (it's not possible to get enough ER for that)

[thorn bay]

Ig er sands is just enough

[thorn bay]

Ig I’ll just strongbox some artifacts for her

[wide dirge]

Silken is not bad on Columbina right?

[thorn bay]

It’s good

[keen willow]

Is columbia better at lvl70

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I don't know about double hydro. maybe it's possible to burst first rotation with that..

but the usual options would be like Nahida, Ineffa, Sucrose, etc

[thorn bay]

For dmg of her 90 is best

[lyric cargo]

she's an hp scaler, so wants 90

better, in what way?

[thorn bay]

If you could I think you can 100 her

[wide dirge]

Is Nilou C1 worth it, or should I get another masterless?

[lyric cargo]

lvl70 Bina better than Aino? likely

[keen willow]

No i meant like does the second ascension passive change much

[thorn bay]

Is it the bigger circle thing?

Ascendant gleam

[lyric cargo]

I haven't used her without it

it sounds like elevation? that would be a big deal

[keen willow]

Lvl70 passive

[thorn bay]

I just got her don’t expect anything from me

[keen willow]

I used her at lvl60 and she's eh

[rugged sparrow]

only if u go c2

[wide dirge]

I am too poor for that

[rugged sparrow]

her c1 kinda does nothing

[wide dirge]

I guess lv 100 Furina it is

Thanks

[half anchor]

Still haven’t started the archon quest lol

[valid anchor]

Slow down!

[young glen]

Is the Bottom team viable?

[polar galleon]

can anyone help me farm bosses - asia

[lyric cargo]

going for the inverse of what I did, I see 😅

(I'm avoiding exploration until interactive map updates finish. suffered my way through the archon quest for Bina lvl90.)

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't use that website for teambildung advice. their quest guides can be useful, but I'd stop there

[feral reef]

Do u even need interactive now
Got in game one now

[lyric cargo]

Mualani has a much stronger team now than before, from what I heard.

Mua, Mona, Sucrose, Pyro Traveler
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RNe_qdtX-q4

[feral reef]

Does mc buff mean anything

For anyone

[lyric cargo]

compass doesn't find everything. map is specifically to mark off everything I find and hide it, so I'm able to know that I'm missing at the end

[lyric cargo]

pyro application and 4pc scroll

[young glen]

Dont have mona 💔💔

[feral reef]

I mean the buff to their kit

[young glen]

Can i sub nahida for emilia

I mean the other way

[lyric cargo]

ah. you'll get her eventually. sadly the standard char selector is already gone and we just have the constellation selector now (only works if you already own the char)

[young glen]

Ig

[thorn bay]

C1 buff too

[thorn bay]

C1 and pyro app

Nvm I’m absolutely sincerely sorry

I misinterpreted your message

[lyric cargo]

who is emilia? you mean emilie?
I don't know much about Mualani teams besides which is now supposed to be optimal

[lyric cargo]

oh
I'm not really aware, but it's several different, small buffs? all active at the same time?

or is only the one for the current elment active

[young glen]

The girl with the green little hat

[lyric cargo]

girl? yaoyao?

[opal surge]

He means emilie

[lyric cargo]

yeah, probably emilie (but she's not a girl)
lost in translation, maybe

[opal surge]

She's on the screenshot so

[lyric cargo]

also, I thought they meant using Emilie instead of Nahida. Now that I look again, it's the other way around

[clear ginkgo]

Idk if I wanna grab ineffa, I don’t like the model & her atks seem eh, But I really want Varka. But Ik ineffa would buff my flins…

[lyric cargo]

my attitude is always that you don't see off-fielders for more than a second each rotation
I'd go for the chars you want, but get whatever teammates make their teams shine the most

[keen willow]

Skip the clanker

[clear ginkgo]

Yea…but my thought is…Varka would get a faster rerun than a 3rd banner run of ineffa…so I COULD grab him on his rerun…

[young glen]

Wtf

[clear ginkgo]

I really only have aino, Flins & jahoda for my nod krai characters.

[young glen]

So is it ok to switch emille to nahida

[lyric cargo]

sure. I'm not sure you need a dendro option, honestly

[young glen]

Prolly for burning

[lyric cargo]

but I'm not very informed on Mua teams pre-Mona

[young glen]

Or i can run furina mua dehy xiang

Idl tho

[lyric cargo]

well, it prevents hydro from taking over and gives you some additional pyro application
kinda what a second pyro unit would do?
I think it might not be needed, a single pyro unit should let you vape all your hits on Mua

but maybe Emilie's personal damage and Nahida's EM buff make up for it

[young glen]

Yeah i have no clue or i can also run xiang fur mua zhong

[lyric cargo]

Xiangling has very strong pyro application, both her skill and her burst apply it with every hit
I don't think you need that much pyro though, since apparently traveler is enough

and Xl has the downside of having to position yourself so her burst hits
probably not what Mua wants to do? Not sure.

zhongli should not be necessary in most content, unless enemies are very aggressive

[half anchor]

nod krai one shows everything no?

[lyric cargo]

mostly. except for a couple things.

[half anchor]

oh thats weird

[lyric cargo]

there are some knocked over deer statues on the west island for example, you can interact with them and put them back up for chests iirc

[bright cape]

@lyric cargo is this substat %gain over based on our current build?
i am surprised hp% has higher priority

[lyric cargo]

when I explored the first part of nod-krai, the compass didn't show the deer statues

[young glen]

It sucks that i dont have mave ir ANY new char

[bright cape]

or is it in general for any build?

[lyric cargo]

@young glen
Mua does have very few options to include a healer.
Xilonen is one, but it costs rotation time to use her burst
Mona with prototype amber is kinda perfect, in that it gives some healing that doesn't increase rotation time
as well as has buffing of her own

[young glen]

I have neither 😭

[lyric cargo]

based on the team printed on the buildcard

[bright cape]

oh ok.

i was thinking since my neuvi has tons of cdmg, it's giving hp% more priority now

[lyric cargo]

yeah, figured. 😐
options are either to run healerless in difficult content where you're up against a timer
and reset when you die
or to include Zl and lose some damage

[lyric cargo]

if the crit dmg isn't part of what's shown on the buildcard (weapon, supports, constellation level)
then it won't be active for that calculation

you can use genshin optimizer instead, where you can choose the assumptions
but it takes long to set up

something like Irminsul or a scanner (using optical text recognition on screenshots / video) can help
I wish they just added a data export button to the settings in the genshin client

[humble seal]

is arle with c2r1 columbina, c0r1 ineffa, and c2r1 durin better than the sucrose version

[serene sandal]

im worried i have nowhere near enough 5* supports for my account 😭 i have no natlan 5 star after mualani

[fossil raven]

I’m at like 15 pity 50/50 but I have lost 5050 twice before this so my capirturing radiance is higher maybe

Do you think I’ll get ineffa before the banner ends?
Plus I have welkin a lot so I’ll have it for this patch specifically

I still had a lot of archon quests to work through too

[strange scarab]

I dont know

[serene sandal]

could i put navia and bina tgt for a lunar crystallize team

[strange scarab]

Maybe

[shut parrot]

Can anyone explain me the artifact

[lyric cargo]

one of the new ones?
we'll need some context

[shut parrot]

Idk what artifact to put and what they do to my character

[lyric cargo]

you can have a look at this sheet, it will show you what sets are good on which char:
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[haughty lotus]

What do you know

[neon harness]

Ur mom

[haughty lotus]

Is that so

[tulip plaza]

columbina would require hp/hp/crit right? btw I 100% new regions by no lifing

[strange scarab]

I dont know

[median glade]

https://fxtwitter.com/mochi_upamo/status/2011810372110729374

うぱも (@mochi_upamo)

#GenshinImpact #Nilou

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[lyric cargo]

sands either hp% or ER (how much she needs depends on the team, what team are you running her in?)

circlet more likely CD than CR
she has cr ascension and gets 15% cr from her passive

also 10% cr from Lauma, if played in lunar bloom. and potentially another 10% from c2 Nahida, if you happen to have that

[trail nymph]

who's a better option for Bina, Nefer and Lauma; Kuki or Ineffa?

[lyric cargo]

if you have both, then Ineffa is better from what I've seen

[trail nymph]

thank you 🙂
just got Ineffa

[lyric cargo]

143k team dps with Ineffa
137k with Kuki

I don't know if those numbers are accurate

another calc says 141.5k with Kuki

[lyric cargo]

I'd say they're similar enough, but I'd rather run with a shield and have prototype amber on Bina for healing
than have only Kuki's healing

assuming you don't have another team that wants Ineffa
that you could run parallel

[opal surge]

you can just test it for your own case with your own investmen t

in miliastra

[viral flare]

hello!! i main Kinich and i had a question, does COlumbina do a great combo with him? i didnt saw any vid talking abt it and i feel like it might be really bad ;c

[rugged sparrow]

theyre basically incompatible yes

[viral flare]

NOOOOOOO fr? :c its so sad i had hope, i love her kit and design 😭

[rugged sparrow]

just make 2 different teams for them

if you dont care about endgame content then just run whoever, even

[viral flare]

i mean i do care abt it, but i aslo want to play for fun with the team i want to 🥲

[lyric cargo]

there are three lunar reactions:

• hydro + electro
• hydro + dendro
• hydro + geo

(1) and (3) would be impossible because dendro aura is dominant over hydro.
(2) doesn't work because lunar-bloom as a reaction is basically just bloom

it's only certain nod-krai chars who actually deal damage with lunar bloom

[cedar flint]

You can wheelchair kinich probably but that’s about it

[lyric cargo]

And the damage isn't actually good, it's just a way to enable Lauma's kit who adds a lot of damage to it.
Kinda like Nilou made bloom viable

[viral flare]

my dream is dead and i missed every single CHaracter i could team Columbina with + Durin and Venti just passed so i cant save for a great Varka team

im cooked lol, but ty all for the anwser

[lyric cargo]

there are three ways to make viable Columbina teams:

• Ineffa
• Lauma
• Zibai (probably)

you can either:

• go for Ineffa on the current banner
• wait until closer to the end, when we have more info on Zibai
• go for Zibai in second half

or wait longer until a Lauma rerun. (We don't know when)

[viral flare]

only those? then its not as bad as i though i really liked her, but i dont really like all the other character listed '^^

[lyric cargo]

it'll be a separate team from Kinich and Durin / Venti

[lyric cargo]

hmm, if you don't like all three then you can't make a viable Columbina team

but honestly, Ineffa and Lauma are both off-fielders. You'll see them for 1 second each rotation so I wouldn't really choose based on that

[viral flare]

i mean ineffa's cool, but not worth pulling the two out of the same banner with Varka comming in like a month

[viral flare]

wait im confused? then who would be on field?

[lyric cargo]

for Lauma, or for Ineffa?

[viral flare]

for both?

[lyric cargo]

Ineffa has a lot of teams, Bina + Ineffa is just a cery viable off-field dps duo

got a screenshot of your char pool?

[viral flare]

yh sure, i start my game and send

[lyric cargo]

Lauma is more limited, the main ways to play her teams would be:

• Nefer (on-field), Lauma, Bina, filler
• Bina (on-field), Lauma, Aino, Sucrose / Nahida / Ineffa / etc
• something like Neuvilette, Bina/Furina, Lauma, Ineffa / etc

[lyric cargo]

Chasca, Raiden, Navia could probably all make a Bina + Ineffa team

[viral flare]

oh i see, yh i thinks its either Columbina + Ineffa or i wait for Varka lol

[viral flare]

humm i see, thanks ill think abt it! tysm for the help

[trail nymph]

the only other dps I have is Mualani

rotation order for columbina, lauma, nefer and ineffa?

[lyric cargo]

oh, with Ineffa

I'm actually not sure

[drowsy shuttle]

who wants to do my link for the web event!

[brisk mural]

Fot lunar charge raiden with bina and ineffa do I put her on the nod kira dps set?

[late pebble]

If i have c6 tighnari, can i get him once during the To Temper Thyself and Journey Far?

[rugged sparrow]

you can get him yes, which will give you Masterless Stella

[late pebble]

Oh ty

[solid jewel]

is anyone able to join me and help me build characters and gain world exploration? WL7 646238154

[wet wasp]

can someone tell me what a meta character is coming from someone who hasn't played since sumeru was released and can't do damage

[sterile ruin]

i would say nodkrai teams

does aubade of morningstar stacks across different characters

[forest venture]

yes because it's an individual buff

[sterile ruin]

individual buff?

[forest venture]

it only buffs the holder

[sterile ruin]

translator gotta revise the description omg 🫩

hm, can Ineffa use it

[forest venture]

i think she can

[dusk mica]

how do you get the pyro infusion on traveler im not understanding

[hazy lotus]

basically just whatever characters do well in the current state of the game which is more often than not gonna be the more recently released dpses and supports

[lyric cargo]

I'd say meta teams are:

• Columbina + Nefer Lauma
  or
• Columbina + Flins Ineffa
• Mavuika Bennett Citlali
• Skirk Escoffier Furina
• Varesa Durin Iansan Chevreuse
• Mualani Mona Sucrose Pyro Traveler

[opal surge]

you need real c6

from offering the reputation rewards to capi in his cuckchair

[wet wasp]

thank u! I have none of these well i have mona, sucrose, chevreuse and furina but idk where to go from here

[lyric cargo]

from this patch's banners, Bina + Ineffa or Bina + Zibai are both reasonable options I think

you can get bina + ineffa now, or just get bina and wait until it's closer to the Zibai banner and we learn more about her

[neon harness]

That is so

[haughty lotus]

Oh, thanks

[neon harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1000234066324492368/1262981160150110219/cokebert.gif

[haughty lotus]

You shouldn’t do that

[delicate flare]

What's the most efficient way to get all the chests and oculus and what's best setup for Navia, Xilonen, Columbina and Ineffa

[valid anchor]

Nod Krai compass has a huge advantage on the oculi search, because no need to be crafted every time you need to find one. Just have enough level to use it on the corresponding area.

For the rest of the regions, you may need to be patient.

[half anchor]

muzan va as dottore is SO SICK

[valid anchor]

• Navia is a Geo DPS which depends on Crystallize.
• Xilonen is the most recent support mostly for Natlan units, but she can excels overall. Not at the level of Bennett, but still. Heavy user of the secondary Natlan artifact (hero of the cinder city).
• Ineffa, well, hope you like a DPS depending of Lunar-charged.
• Columbina? Ironically I have her, but haven't explored her playstyle further.

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/flowers-cry-genshin-impact-traveler-gif-23662083

[haughty lotus]

🪣

[neon harness]

Pookie….how hard was theather

[haughty lotus]

Went pretty smooth for me bbg

[neon harness]

whele

[haughty lotus]

Hydro and electro

[quaint fern]

Wait is it out?

Hydro and electro? I'm cooked dawg

[proud fjord]

Anyone have Columbina mats? Asia server

[worthy siren]

this or that for Ineffa

[pale spoke]

Is vortex vanquisher good for ineffa

[hollow folio]

2nd

[half anchor]

guys is it possible to pause the nod krai archon quest cus its kinda like in one go idk if i can leave until i finish it

[worthy siren]

Its time

TO RETURN TO WATCHING PEAK

[valid anchor]

there are some check points during the quest. You can see a small Saving Progress (or something similar) on the bottom-right side of the screen, close to your UID. Once done, you can exit (press start to close quest or force-close game) and you'll be back from that point.

Pretty much like Paralogism AQ.

Nod Krai last 2 Archon Quests are pretty long. Expect to play around 6-7 hours.

[half anchor]

im so glad i 100%ed the map before starting the AQ

[primal cypress]

I stopped playing for more than half a year and just came back

How bricked is my acc with the new gimmicks and meta?

[valid anchor]

Lunar reactions are team-wide based, so, you'll be fine as-is, but you'll need some characters from Nod Krai to use that. Right now, both Columbina and Ineffa are almost like a must pull.

You'll get Aino for free as long you progress on AQ, too.

[topaz inlet]

For arle ineffa bina bennett team, which artifact should be used on ineffa & bina?

[hazy lotus]

Probably both on the new lunar dmg set

[brisk mural]

how do we feel about

clorinde ineffa bina yelan

[bright cape]

so proto amber is columbina's best f2p weapon?

[forest venture]

yes

[bright cape]

tome is once again going to get benched 😔

i was surprised it being better than r1 tome and jade

[forest venture]

lunar reactions don't get benefits from typical dmg bonuses and bina doesn't produce enough particles to get her burst every rotation

amber in 6.3 has a lot of characters using it optimally in comparison to amber in release

[unreal prism]

lf columbina flowers on asia server 🙏

[fierce locust]

i have a question, if the regular max level is 10, and the constellation only adds 3 levels, how is the max upgrade level 15?

[elder bluff]

char buff, event buff

[crude dirge]

When all party members are either Hydro or Cryo, and if there is at least 1 Hydro and 1 Cryo character, your own party members' Elemental Skill Level is increased by 1.
Increases your own party members' Normal Attack Level by 1.

[thorn bay]

Skirk/childe has a passive that increases talent level by 1
So probably in the future that will be completed

[foggy phoenix]

which is better flins with columbina fishl and sucrose (hexrei buff) or flins with ineffa aino and sucrose

[lyric cargo]

I think they meant the team, not the individual units

[lyric cargo]

every 1st of a new month
I haven't played the most recent one yet, was waiting for Bina..

new abyss today as well?

[lyric cargo]

these calcs seem very questionable

her sig for off-field Bina isn't a 40.2% increase over p-amber, it's more like 5-8%

sac jade can easily overcap you on crit rate? she has cr ascension and a 15% cr passive

it's good if you don't overcap too much, but might make the ER situation more difficult

[lyric cargo]

(the 5 - 8% are looking at team dmg, which is the metric you should be looking at when pulling a weapon. I have not seen personal dps calcs because they are not relevant.)

fav codex is very similar to p-amber, not 30% behind

its energy restoring effect for the team is being ignored

[bright cape]

i saw it in iwtl video

i am assuming the hp% cap is not being reached with cdmg weapons to reach the er threshold

[lyric cargo]

the 35k hp?
depends on the team, maybe. if you need ER sands, you might only reach it with a hp% circlet (not sure if worth..)

[bright cape]

for tome, i was thinking to do the hp% circlet stuff

but i haven't been able to build her yet.

i also got ineffa on top of that

i think it should be competitive with pamber thing

[violet cipher]

does leveling up Columbina's basic attack do anything for that special charged attack for consuming verdent dew?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[violet cipher]

k

[rugged sparrow]

it increases the scaling (which is HP scaling)

[bright cape]

is it worth it?

[rugged sparrow]

if you play on-field bina yes

if not it's useless

[lyric cargo]

HP% weapon, HP% sands, HP% goblet: 42277 hp, 155er

HP% weapon, ER sands, HP% goblet: 37090 hp, 197.1er

[bright cape]

is there a way to play her onfield a bit more in flins team, so that the sucrose ttds lineup every rotation?

[lyric cargo]

if it's only competitive, it should be worse as you lose p-amber healing

would have to be actually better

[rugged sparrow]

wheres the lunar bloom in Flins' team

her CA uses verdant dew

[bright cape]

oh i thought it did bloom regardless

nvm then

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it does lunar bloom dmg
but just like Nefer's special CA, you need verdant dew which is obtainable from the default lunar bloom reaction

[bright cape]

yah. that's one thing i came to realize later on.
that team has no healer

with just ineffa. i think having a bit of healing every rotation would be a bit nice

[lyric cargo]

her NA and CA are atk scaling without verdant dew, so not worth considering

unless you extra need hydro app for a setup, I guess

[bright cape]

my plan is to fully build ineffa and bina before the stygian starts
and then go 100% on the new artifacts

we need a 4 star ttds or 5 star

[lyric cargo]

have any of y'all tried out the test dummy in miliastra yet?

[bright cape]

i have tried. can only reach 80k dps

with my neuvi team.

all other teams are very low

i think my mav was hovering around 55k

[rugged sparrow]

I've tried but idk if it's proper
wonder if there are others

[lyric cargo]

I haven't yet, but I saw it has a raw dmg log of all the hits

I wonder if it would be possible to copy it out and calculate the damage you would've done with different talent levels

let's say I test with 1 7 7 Bina talents and want to calculate what the team dps will be with 1 8 6 or 1 10 10

[quaint fern]

wait is this archon quest just continous 😭 😭

[rugged sparrow]

game did warn u

just not specific

[quaint fern]

it did indeed

[rugged sparrow]

you can stop whenever as long as it's been saved though ig

[quaint fern]

I just didn't think that it would jump from act 7 to 8

[lyric cargo]

I'm adding a suggestion next feedback form
add a "continue later" button next to the audio button they added
and save the exact text box the player was on, so no progress is lost

[lyric cargo]

me, when I had a co-op commitment. needing to get through 8h of archon quest

maybe I could've found a way to exit after a save, if I exited my game?

also awkward for resin / daily coms if you don't have 8h to play in one day

[neon wave]

You can just get out whenever you can walk

It'll save

[broken sierra]

is any1 able to help me with raskol local legend challenges?

[foggy phoenix]

is the new artifact set the bis for ineffa

[crude dirge]

if u care about her personal damage then yes

[tepid finch]

hey for the new abyss ive got a lauma and flins team. which one is better for each floor

[lyric cargo]

it depends on the team

In Nefer, Lauma, Nahida, Bina:
Lauma runs 2p2p EM
Nahida runs deepwood
Bina runs serenade (not the new set)

In Flins, Ineffa, Bina, Sucrose:
Ineffa runs the new set
Bina runs serenade
Sucrose runs VV

it could be that Bina runs the new set in Zibai teams.
There isn't a set like deepwood or VV to buff geo. But it's speculative I think, we don't know Zibai's full kit

In random other teams with Bina Ineffa core, like Hutao Bina Ineffa Yelan
I think Hauto runs sky's unveiling. Bina and Ineffa run the new set. Yelan runs serenade.

[dusk needle]

I'm still wrapping my head around how Capturing Radiance works.
So let's say like my current scenario right now.

Mizuki > Bina > Diluc > Ineffa (hopefully). So I have 2 points now?

Now if I keep pulling

Mizuki > Bina > Diluc > Ineffa > Standard

I will then have 3 points which will trigger CR, but what comes first, since I lost my 50/50 I'm still guaranteed, then after that my next 50/50 will automatically win? so probably something like this?

Mizuki > Bina > Diluc > Ineffa > Standard > Guaranteed > Capturing

[strange scarab]

I dont know

[thorn bay]

Yes

[split orbit]

Hello everyone. Does anyone has a list of hidden chests in Inazuma after Treasure compass rework? By that I mean actually hidden chests because before Treasure compass could not find Time trials and Seelies, so the list should not contain them

[fiery wigeon]

Would columbina work in a lunar bloom team that consists of

Bina,Lauma, Nahida, nilou with bina using the prototype for healing?

[dusky oxide]

In the new map are there any chests that can't be detected with the compass?

[cedar flint]

thoughts

weapon place holder

[viral mulch]

not even lunar pearl

[cedar flint]

I said weapon is a pace holder

[radiant stone]

Can sethos be better than raiden in terms of dps? If so, at what constellation?

[lyric cargo]

I suspect it won't be enough healing to sustain against self-bloom dmg
but if you have the char, you can jump into a miliastra training dummy stage and test it I think?
unless they didn't implement self-damage

[lyric cargo]

substat count looks good, though two ascensions left to go so crit rate will go higher
I assume weapon will be proto-amber once you get to crafting it?
team will be Nefer, Flins, Zibai, or something else? (asking because Lauma gives crit rate)

[vagrant geyser]

Guys i'm confused dose Columbina not buff the converted Lunar dmg of non-nod krai characters??!

[lyric cargo]

she does, but it's not that significant to begin with afaik

the thing about Nod-Krai chars is that they deal significant talent damage of the lunar reaction type

so for them, Bina amplifies that as well
for non-nodkrai it's only the reaction damage which is a little bit added on top?

[vagrant geyser]

Hmmm yeah but i was able to Clear abbys 12 with Lunar yae miko, did she really not buff her by much

[fiery wigeon]

Low key I was thinking of doing this template from a video I waa watching but put kuki there on instructors

[lyric cargo]

I haven't seen calcs. might be Bina's personal damage? Not sure.
abyss 12 is not that difficult tbh, the real challenge is stygian now

last abyss was more challenging than usual, this one is back to the previous level is my impression

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh I only hated the one before the previous abyss because of that deer that adored the most used element, considering I use so many duo element reaction teams or mono teams it really crippled me

[steady beacon]

is there any quest related to this thing?

[dusky oxide]

Not quest but exploration stuff, you do a lot of stuff and it gives you like 4 chests

[steady beacon]

how though?

[dusky oxide]

https://youtu.be/sO5sajJ8C0Q

[crude dirge]

nilou nahida kaveh yelan/xingqiu?

[steady beacon]

thanks 😄

[young glen]

Sounds interesting but idk how kaveh nor yelan work

[crude dirge]

yelan is basically xingqiu but scales off hp and kaveh can heal himself when hit by bloom and has dendro infusion on burst (can be driver)

[dusky oxide]

Wouldn’t kaveh lose out on his dps because there’s no seed to detonate?

[crude dirge]

kaveh has no dps in any screnario except hypercarry wheelchair

[young glen]

Ig that jts between kaveh collei or dendro traveler

Which 1 is tbe most fun

[cedar flint]

either zibai or ineffa and well ofc she is lvl 70 cus i dont have flowers and weapon i plan to get jade

[lyric cargo]

Herra?

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah!

I wanted to use mavuika onnthe other side but I caved in and switched her to the deers side to beat it

Lord have mercy i hate that boss

If I see it Im abyss again imma pretend abyss only goes up to 12-1

[lyric cargo]

for Mav it's pretty good?

having permanent pyro cryo aura lets you do some crazy combos and still melt every hit

[rugged sparrow]

cryo

[bleak moth]

my ineffa on gilded. i will be farming for the new set in the upcoming days. I want to know if I should change my weapon to r5 missive windspear or craft a new prospectors shovel and r5 it(is the damage increase worth it)?

[late pebble]

My columbina already has more than enough with one HP% artifact 😭 what do i give for her goblet

[cedar flint]

Hp%

her dmg scales with hp as well not just buffs

[lyric cargo]

err.. yeah, that. 😅

[opal surge]

Crit

Oh goblet no yeah still hp

[rugged sparrow]

crit goblet BAAAAT

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

300cv is finally possible

[cedar flint]

Crit sands goblet and circlet

[rugged sparrow]

help my bum Itto only doing 70k DPS in monogeo team

he might be able to clear Menacing

[opal surge]

🥀

What's ittos best non wheelchair team nowadays

Is it zl chiori gorou

[rugged sparrow]

define "wheelchair"

[cedar flint]

bina ineffa

[rugged sparrow]

BAAAAAT

[opal surge]

Best team that doesn't consist of a core that has no synergy with itto but out damages him from off field

[rugged sparrow]

it's just Chiori Albedo Durin I believe

[cedar flint]

He will trigger lunar crystalize

[rugged sparrow]

I almost hit 100k with it but my Chiori and Durin doesn't have enough ER to try more than 3 rots 🥀

[young glen]

How does kaveh work

[rugged sparrow]

Durin is c1r1 though so w/o it it's probably less

[lyric cargo]

he's too old now, just like a certain hydro dragon 😅

[opal surge]

Oh yeah albedo during makes sense

[lyric cargo]

literally half the dps of my Nefer and Mav team
where Bina is on 1-7-6 talents still and I don't think I'm playing Mav right. c2r1 should get more than 150k dps, right?

[rugged sparrow]

1st rot only cuz my Durin ER isn't setupped for this team

[opal surge]

thats pretty solid no

[rugged sparrow]

nor Chiori's

[rugged sparrow]

it is yeah but Klee is tied with Durin

[opal surge]

Bineffa has brought back my navia from the dead

[rugged sparrow]

[cedar flint]

but at what cost

[opal surge]

shes still doing half the teasms damage thats good enough for me

although tbf she did critg every E here and she does not have 100% crit rate so

[rugged sparrow]

critfishing

smh

do I shoot him dead and wait till Inazuma buffs...

[opal surge]

its not my fault navia doesnt get 30+ crit for free from her 4p like everyone else nowadays

[rugged sparrow]

she can use 4p NSU no

[opal surge]

yeah but my NSU pieces are...

[cedar flint]

You can give her 4 piece tho since you go 2 nod krai

Go back to the mines

[opal surge]

I dont own a NK dps so I dont have NSU pieces

[opal surge]

inazuma buffs soon surely

[lyric cargo]

I tried this and did not think it through 😅
Bennett burst every other rotation angle

[cedar flint]

So you don’t farm silken?

[opal surge]

no i dont farm silken

[opal surge]

[opal surge]

furina instead of bennett gave me alright results, but i havent tried bennett yet

[rugged sparrow]

my bina is on NSU pieces so I cant really test "wheelchair" teams

not that I have Ineffa

[cedar flint]

My bum is not ready either she will need a few more day

[lyric cargo]

I will try
I'm using stygian conditions btw, 2 minute timer and start with 0 energy

made sure to use up fighting sprit on Mav between attempts, and verdant dew on Nefer

[young glen]

Which one do i use

[cedar flint]

I wonder if durin will bring this to 300k

[lyric cargo]

better

[lyric cargo]

the one with more overall crit, that also has more crit rate
the only crit buff she gets is from the 4pc set, right? you want to hit 100% crit rate after buffs, since your crit dmg is over 200%

[young glen]

Wait im supposed to try and get 100% cr???

[lyric cargo]

you want a 1 : 2 crit ratio, yeah

more than 200% crit dmg means crit rate should be 100% after buffs

[old citrus]

what artifact set to use on ineffa if shes the only nod krai character in the team

[young glen]

So i need 20% more cr

[cedar flint]

Does the new set require 2 nod krai?

if not than ye new set otherwise you can use gilded

[opal surge]

yeah

[young glen]

I might have one of the worst nilous ever

[lyric cargo]

what's the team?

[lyric cargo]

wrong mainstat on goblet, so basically not built yet yeah

try a 2pc 2pc mix rather than using wrong mainstats, I think
it might be optimal either way, if you're not reaching her passive's cap without it

[old citrus]

clorinde, ineffa, furina, and kazuha. might use ineffa for neuvilette if i get him.

[lyric cargo]

and can't get Columbina yet I assume? hmm

I'd almost want to say put the Aino or Jahoda in the bag, get ascendant gleam

[old citrus]

yep.. im tryna get her rn but i most likely cant

[young glen]

Is yoimiya completely unuseable now

[opal surge]

ive cleared almost every f12 with her uin recent timers but i imasgine it would be hard to rfeplicate for newer or returning players

[young glen]

I have her c2 and im sad that its wasted

[hidden ravine]

hello, is there any reason on why sigurd unavailable to fight? I've completed his quest and even defeat him once but its locked now

[opal surge]

@rugged sparrow is this good teambuilding i heard thoser characters are meta

[rugged sparrow]

"if it works it works" ahh team

also funny how this abyss f12 leyline is less restrictive than the previous one

[lyric cargo]

trying to prove that abyss is too easy
(now do stygian with that Chasca team ^^)

[neon wave]

how long ago was this? You need to wait for him to respawn

[hidden ravine]

how long does it take for him to respawn? i never touch him since flins banner TT

[neon wave]

Well he should have respawned then kek
Are you interacting with the gravestone?

[young glen]

Who should be my last dendro

[opal surge]

Ive done worse :p

[hidden ravine]

nop and this also show up

i mean i cant interact with anything at his grave too

[neon wave]

maybe some quest or commission that's blocking him?
You have the achievement "Pro aris et focis" right?

[swift python]

I need help with team setup and I got columbina ,team . I need a bloom team because I got nefers weopen on her . Plsss help

[hidden ravine]

yep ig just gotta wait again

[neon wave]

it's not really about waiting, something must be blocking him
not sure what though

[hidden ravine]

well that's what i thought maybe the new area got some lore of him i gotta check that y its blocking me

but i check everywhere and none got this probs so idk anymore

[old citrus]

r1 black sword or r5 finale for clorinde

[lyric cargo]

check if you have focused experience on?

[hidden ravine]

dont think so and if i do i don't got any quest to check it

oomf said she unlock sigurd once we talk to the grave using flins so i hope illuga share that perk

[serene sandal]

does columbina need a dendro unit for her to proc that verdant dew thing

[serene sandal]

bruh i lost my weapon banner to ineffas sig instead of binas

[foggy phoenix]

best teams for this abyss neuvillete hypercarry first half flins ineffa 2nd half?

[lyric cargo]

not only that, she needs Lauma for it to be any good

think of Nefer and Bina as drivers for Lauma's quill dmg

it's not their lunar bloom talent damage that'd good really, it's Lauma's quills

[lyric cargo]

it's not the biggest increase, unless you're on-fielding her
and even for on-field Bina, I'd rather get c2 on Lauma that r1 on Bina I think
since if you ever get Nefer, it will retroactively become not a big increase

[serene sandal]

ah ok, i tried abyss with Neuvi/Furina/Kazu/Ineffa and Navia/ZL/XL/Bina and it went ok, did 9 and 10 but havent tried 11 yet. i dont understand lunar crystallise tho, the constructs appeared on the ground but idk how they worked

[lyric cargo]

hmm, the chars aren't built yet?

9/10/11 should be fast, not really a test

[serene sandal]

they dont all have full builds but all have levelled artis

gimme 5 mins will put it on my enka

https://enka.network/u/640578332/

[broken sierra]

can any1 help me nuke the local legend carb tsar?

[bright cape]

how are these?

[serene sandal]

im really struggling with my furina, her summons rlly help for damage but my chars end up with like no hp left

[thorn bay]

Introducing charlotte and other healers that can heal your party pretty nicely

[serene sandal]

god my account is bricked i needa build too many ppl 😭

[thorn bay]

Same

[lyric cargo]

what a unique piece
specifucally for a char who only cares about hp and nothing else

[serene sandal]

i never said the builds were gonna be good 😭

[lyric cargo]

oh, I really meant it was unique

like, the moment there actually is a char who only wants hp that's kinda.. good?
but it's a very specific situation

Ineffa wants the new set, rather than emblem

is that 5pc MH on Neuv?

[fossil raven]

Best main dps ineffa team?
C0R0 five stars and idk whatever 4 stars

[serene sandal]

ahhh ok igu

[serene sandal]

yeah tbh i havent really looked at her build much, im alr overwhelmed w how many chars i feel like i need to get into a useable state so ive just pushed her onto the backburner

[strange scarab]

Ineffa isnt a main dps

[lyric cargo]

It really is a lot of artifacts yet to farm

Neuv wants his NA talent leveled
Ineffa wants 4pc of the new set
Bina wants 4pc Serenade
Mualani wants 4pc Codex

and then Neuv and Mua would want a decent but of time put into their sets, since they're the on-fielders and their stats matter the most.
Ineffa after that, I guess. But it's hard to recommend grinding a lot of it when you have du much to farm and you only need 50% of that domain

do you have Mona? I forget.

[serene sandal]

no unfortunately not

my roster is this

[burnt drift]

Would c6 jahoda or c6 sucrose be better for flins? (my team is flins ineffa aino)

[bright cape]

is ineffa burst necessary?

[rugged sparrow]

depends on team. it gives party-wide EM

[rugged sparrow]

should be interchangeable, Jahoda's main problem is that her setup takes forever so her upside gets nulled with Sucrose who just E swap

[half anchor]

bro i keep dying on the last floor this abyss is actually ragebaiting me

cleared finally

fuck knuckle duckle

[opal surge]

He's just a lil ducky

Aino made ineffa and then also made a boss that shills ineffa maybe she really is a genius

A marketing genius

[half anchor]

i had to use varesa and furina it was not fun at all

had to keep switching modes with furina and sometimes im too slow and i just die

[rugged sparrow]

wheres your healer...

[half anchor]

furina lol

[rugged sparrow]

what team were you even running

[neon harness]

[rugged sparrow]

[half anchor]

varesa iansan furina durin lmao

[neon harness]

Furina healing mode 😭

[rugged sparrow]

bro's so greedy for buffs

[bright cape]

it's a flins team. then i think i should give her a bit more er

[half anchor]

i also had to survive lol

[rugged sparrow]

u just replace Durin and slot in a healer like Jean or anemo healer and you probs still have enough DPS, this abyss DPS req is abyssmally low

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[bright cape]

how much better is new set than gilded? @rugged sparrow

[rugged sparrow]

idk Im not numbers guy

[bright cape]

what is good amount of atk to have?

[rugged sparrow]

60% lunar is like 200-300 EM assuming u have 0 EM I'm guessing

[half anchor]

i could've used bennett but i wanted to use him for floor 1 lol

[rugged sparrow]

so it should be at most ~5% better than Gilded?

@opal surge pls verify

[rugged sparrow]

no Jean or Sayu or smth

[bright cape]

i gave her most alhaitham pieces

[half anchor]

nop

[rugged sparrow]

heck even Xilo

[half anchor]

floor 1

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

she's like this rn.

[half anchor]

💀 i was too lazy to build proper teams and floor 1 and 2 went smoothly so i didnt wanna switch

[rugged sparrow]

looks good, circlet could be better ig

[neon harness]

Not as good as u

[rugged sparrow]

[neon harness]

Columbina hp or hydro gob

[rugged sparrow]

she cant use hydro gob

[neon harness]

[half anchor]

guys i have no nod krai 5 stars should i get ineffa or columbina

[rugged sparrow]

Lunar Reactions are considered reactions so general dmg% don't work on them

[neon harness]

Er/hp, hp, crit

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[rugged sparrow]

both

[half anchor]

id assume columbina but i wanna make sure

[neon harness]

No hp circlet?

[opal surge]

At equal subs aubade is 14% above double atk and 8% ahead Gilded

[half anchor]

my primos are non existent

[rugged sparrow]

a 8%

ty Sensi Sensei

that sounds weird

[rugged sparrow]

it's an option if u have cracked artis ig

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

or if u have c2 and just wanna max her buffs

[bright cape]

then i will try to farm them this stygian

[rugged sparrow]

just get lucky

[opal surge]

If you have a genuinely good gilded set and no use for the hexenset I would consider not farming it

[rugged sparrow]

just need 2 pulls in theory to get both bina and Ineffa

[opal surge]

8% of ineffas DPS is not that much

[rugged sparrow]

I'm literally the polar opposite I'm so cooked

[opal surge]

It's like 3% teamdps for flins teams

[opal surge]

It's fine at least your Klee will have a shiny new set

[bright cape]

mine builds are like this rn. i will try to get a better sands and choose another circlet. #📌gimshim-help message

[rugged sparrow]

have to farm ts for Durin too 🥀

[bright cape]

i want to burst every rotation

[rugged sparrow]

AND I LITERALLY JUST GOT OUT FROM UR DOMAIN 🥀

"oh boy Klee Durin Emilie can just run UR set, this is so nice"

hexerei set

[opal surge]

DW I'm ramping for a crash out when I've farmed this new domain for months only for Nicole to not use it

Generational crash out

[rugged sparrow]

watch Nicole get her own dedicated set to support someone else

[half anchor]

nicole will prob be some universal buffer cus shes a seelie

[rugged sparrow]

"if the character is an angel and a hexenzirkel member"

[opal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

Nicole will be a DPS or she will be plunging on my account

[rugged sparrow]

[half anchor]

if shes a dps ill acc be shocked

[rugged sparrow]

flashbacks to plunge Navia

[rugged sparrow]

dw 90% pyro 5-star units are DPS

[half anchor]

true lol

[rugged sparrow]

10% being Dehya and that's just because she can't do dmg

until c6, that is

[bright cape]

nice to know she can at c6 🥹

[opal surge]

My C6 Dehya:

[rugged sparrow]

higher than my Itto

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

did I send my Itto DPS

in monogeo (ZL Gorou Chiori Itto)

god save this man

give him his rightful buffs including model buff

[bright cape]

2 gorou, 3 chiori?

[rugged sparrow]

yeah

[bright cape]

who is 1?

[rugged sparrow]

ZL

[bright cape]

oh i see

[rugged sparrow]

it's in order

[bright cape]

i saw neuvi hyperbloom reaching 100k today

and he wasn't even well invested

[rugged sparrow]

hyperbloom as in

bina Ineffa Lauma?

[bright cape]

lauma, raiden

[rugged sparrow]

a

[bright cape]

furina, neuvi

[opal surge]

I was gonna ask if 3 was itto

[rugged sparrow]

CHIORI-CHAN, SAVE ME
THIS IS SUMERU ABYSS WE'RE UP AGAINST

crazy how Chiori just pumps double (pre-buff) Albedo's DPS with no effort

[opal surge]

What was the DPS with albedo durin?

[rugged sparrow]

it's this

c1 Durin though so

Chiori eating those c1 Durin stacks well

[opal surge]

Fair enough

[rugged sparrow]

Albedo can only use like 3 quills

[opal surge]

I mean it'll prolly go up with multirotations even if you have to adjust stats for er

[rugged sparrow]

yeh but I don't wanna swap artis

[opal surge]

Because a lot of damage on that team bleeds into next

[rugged sparrow]

too lazy

[opal surge]

It's understandable

[rugged sparrow]

funnily enough I actually haven't tested Wrio's teams

I'm too focused on seeing how shit my teams are

[opal surge]

Miliastra restrictions on not being able to change gear and team within the stage has been a strain ngl

[rugged sparrow]

yeah

though still nice it's available now

after 5+ years

[opal surge]

Yeah it's amazing to have it

So nice to just test different variations and rotations

[rugged sparrow]

me realizing my Raikou aggravate team only tops at 60k DPS this whole time

[opal surge]

Especially because there's always some bullshit in 12-1-1 abyss nowadays

[rugged sparrow]

Yae EEEQEEE -10k DPS

[opal surge]

It's fine when Inazuma buffs come she will just plop out all 3 with one press and Q will extend

[rugged sparrow]

we're going 30s rot with this one 🗣️ 🔥

[opal surge]

Surely

[rugged sparrow]

surely

make E last for 30s too

so u just gotta pull an Emilie
just press Q every rot

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

is this correct?

[opal surge]

I really do hope other rounds of buffs roll out soon

[bright cape]

i added 2 skill for flins

[rugged sparrow]

2 Sucrose E

is it Sac angle

[bright cape]

no i got her c1

[rugged sparrow]

u cant fit 2 Sucrose every rot

[bright cape]

oh ok

[rugged sparrow]

only the first rot

[opal surge]

That's not how flins works is it

[rugged sparrow]

I have no idea on Flins ERC actually

[opal surge]

He only makes particles on his real skill which enters skillstate

Right?

[rugged sparrow]

idk how ERC optimizes this

[opal surge]

Yeah

[rugged sparrow]

Flins should get a unique prompt/category

[opal surge]

So he only gets a 1 for skill

Not 2

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

Because he makes 4 particles per skillstate

[opal surge]

And if you make it 2 then he makes 8

[bright cape]

where do i put that?

[opal surge]

It's fine the way you have it

You can put 1.25 like prompted If you want

[rugged sparrow]

166% ER doesn't sound right though, this is assuming the big burst I'm guessing

[opal surge]

This is big burst yeah

[rugged sparrow]

goddamn chars with special energy needs

[bright cape]

yah. this is looking a tad bit more accurate.
but now looks like i will need fav lance on ineffa

[bright cape]

yah. i never use his big burst

my columbina and ineffa both are lvl 81 with lvl 6 talents and they already feel so strong

[opal surge]

Ineffa is not meant to burst every rotation in flins teams

It's a DPS loss to build for it

[bright cape]

oh ok

[bright cape]

when i do burst every other rotation, it becomes 100%

[opal surge]

Yeah

[bright cape]

i see. then lemme not gimp her with small bit of ER from sands

i think ascension and weapon both being cr is making her overcap

should I go with prospectors drill instead? or vortex vanquisher?

[rugged sparrow]

definitely not Vortex

[bright cape]

is her atk threshold 2500?

[rugged sparrow]

she doesn't have atk cap

at least for her buff

[sour abyss]

Is Columbina signature weapon a buff for Neuvillette?

Cuz of that insane 148% crit dmg.

[lyric cargo]

I see 88.1% CD, 14 flat energy, 24 hp%

lunar reaction crit dmg doesn't apply to his main source of damage

[sour abyss]

Yeah, if u read the description on her weapon. It adds up to 148% crit dmg. Let me get the video.

Also after getting both Ineffa and Columbina

I got Ineffa weapon in 10 pulls and then 30 pulls later I did get Columbina weapon too.

Btw u remembered me ya? 😭

[lyric cargo]

I read it, it says crit dmg from lunar reaction dmg

[sour abyss]

I see. Then I can add Lauma to the team.

[rugged sparrow]

...

I think you're not understanding it

[sour abyss]

Yeah no cap

I'm behind on genshin terminology atm. In the other hand I need to clean surgical instruments. So....yah.

Is what I do for a living. 🙂

[lyric cargo]

only damage if the right type gets the additional 60q crit dmg

[sour abyss]

Yes

[lyric cargo]

88.2 + 60 = 148.2

but that's still 88.2 for Neuv's main source of damage (his charged attack)

and 148.2 for any Lunar-Charged or Lunar-Crystallize dmg he deals

he can't deal lunar-bloom damage

[rugged sparrow]

Lunar Reaction Crit Dmg means it only applies to the lunar reaction dmg
the only way Neuvillette does Lunar Reaction dmg is through Ineffa / Columbina and having a Lunar Charge

or Lunar Crystallize yeah

[sour abyss]

Is it shit for Neuvillette or do I use his main signature weapon?

[rugged sparrow]

just use his sig weap

[sour abyss]

Ty

[rugged sparrow]

the weapon is 100% worse than his sig

[sour abyss]

Okay, well that youtuber lost all credibility....

Is Ineffa weapon great for Flinns? Im running Flinns, Columbina, Sucrose, and Ineffa.

[rugged sparrow]

it's good on Flins yes

[sour abyss]

For Ineffa I'm using deathmatch

Wait is the skyward spine for ER

[rugged sparrow]

wdym

[rugged sparrow]

oh also if you're stealing Ineffa's Halo u might as well give it to her

Flins runs DM / Shovel

or something better that you might have but not mention

[drowsy shuttle]

What should I improve?

[rugged sparrow]

what's the goal here

[lyric cargo]

is that a crit dmg icon?

[drowsy shuttle]

Which

[drowsy shuttle]

Hmm to like balance things put with a bit more crit rate

Crit damage**

[rugged sparrow]

44:250

[drowsy shuttle]

Is that what I need?

[rugged sparrow]

no it's your stats

which is godawful if you plan to do dmg with her

[drowsy shuttle]

Yh

[drowsy shuttle]

Loll

My team rn is flins, fiscl, sucrose and her

[rugged sparrow]

just run a cr circlet

[drowsy shuttle]

I want her to obviously be a supporter but also do damage

[rugged sparrow]

also no sustain is kinda sus but if you can run it then

[drowsy shuttle]

I have one at the cost of more hp and less ER

[drowsy shuttle]

True. I hope to get ineffa thats why

I was able to get 7 strs on abyss floor 12 for the first time

@rugged sparrow what would you recommend

[rugged sparrow]

.

[drowsy shuttle]

I have a CR circlet with 28 crit damage hp etc

[rugged sparrow]

focus on fulfilling ER needs first

[drowsy shuttle]

That’s kind of why i havent switched as it has no ER

[rugged sparrow]

like none of your cr circlets have ER?

or you're just looking at the one with highest cdmg and ignore everything else

[drowsy shuttle]

Oh i recently got one, it has hp % er % and crit dmg

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

[rugged sparrow]

in any case just find cr circlet that has enough ER to help your bina burst every rot then worry about the other offensive subs (HP & cdmg)

[drowsy shuttle]

Serving

[fringe frigate]

I need c6 flins for imaginarium threter

[sour abyss]

Ty

[viral flare]

hellooo! will Ineffa be good in a team with Illuga / Zibai / Columbina???

[rugged sparrow]

I mean she doesn't make the team worse in any how and contributes to the team by giving her personal dmg

if that's your definition of good then yeah sure

[unkempt river]

best Bina team atm?

[rugged sparrow]

bineffa wheelchair angle ♿

[unkempt river]

Who're the other two characters?

Also what happned to the Blubberbeast pfp :c
I miss it haha

[rugged sparrow]

it's pretty flexible, you can probs make a functioning team with haitham +1

uh I haven't used blubberbeast pic since how long

[unkempt river]

wb Neuvi

[rugged sparrow]

works too

[unkempt river]

I'll try both teams in the dps calc

[rugged sparrow]

Neuv probs win by the virtue of having better scaling but I might be mistaken

[hazy lotus]

u could also wait for lauma rerun and do bina dps

[serene sandal]

heres my roster linked, can anyone give me a good replacement for furina since shes taking too much hp from my other units

[rugged sparrow]

just... use a healer

what team are you even running, anyway

[serene sandal]

neuvi furina kazu ineffa

[rugged sparrow]

...

Neuv alone should be enough to constantly proc Furina's passive healing and cap out Fanfare
you have Ineffa's shield as safety net too

[hazy lotus]

maybe they’re the type of person who gets anxiety seeing anyone on their team nearing half hp

[serene sandal]

whenever i use furinas e skill all my units end the fight with about 25% of their max hp, even in overworld

[rugged sparrow]

she can't even drain HP past 50%

[lyric cargo]

Skirk + Furina Escoffier
Mav + Bennett Citlali

that leaves Neuv or Arle. Maybe Raiden

last team member ideally a buffer that helps the whole team and isn't already taken

[rugged sparrow]

"best bina team?"

2 non-bina teams
que

[lyric cargo]

I was ticking off who's unavailable

you'd want teams you can play at the same time

[rugged sparrow]

ic

it's very unlikely for bina to be in Skirk / Mav team anyway so the approach is kinda

inb4 lunar freeze/vape

[unkempt river]

Please Lunar Freeze hoyo

[hazy lotus]

i heard bina is actually an option in skirk teams but that’s cause skirk 4th slots are kinda mid

[lyric cargo]

I mean, Mav Bina Ineffa probably outdamages the other options, but..

it's kinda worse than her alternatives since the synergy isn't as good as that with Citlali

[rugged sparrow]

I'm just wondering remotely how

TTDS TotM angle?

[hazy lotus]

probably tbh

[rugged sparrow]

impressive

E bot

atp almost every archon can be TotM bot

only exception is Venti

[late pebble]

I wanna build raiden for columbina by applying electro using her skill, i have no idea what set to give her and what artifact stats 😭 any ideas

[deft sandal]

guys whats better getting columbina weapon or ineffa's ?

[surreal birch]

guys is this a good comp for dps bina?

[lyric cargo]

what's the team?

[deft sandal]

idk tbh but i guess ill prob wish for lauma

[lyric cargo]

could it be a Nefer team eventually?

[deft sandal]

idk i only have ineffa and columbina now and isk what to do with them

[lyric cargo]

if you're certain it'll always stay on-field Bina, her sig has some value
but it loses that value when you don't on-field her

overall I'd say skip the weapon banner and get c2 Lauma instead if you want to vertically invest in a lunar bloom team

but the first priority on every account would be having a wide char pool before you invest deep

endgame content wants you to have at least 3 good teams

[surreal birch]

bump?

[lyric cargo]

no, on-field Bina is only viable with Lauma

think of chars who trigger lunar-bloom as drivers, the actual damage comes from Lauma's quills

[surreal birch]

ohh

so lunar charge is the only good team for her if f2p?

[lyric cargo]

you can either:

• get Lauma and play Bina on-field
• get Lauma and play Nefer on-field
• get Ineffa and play Bina + ineffa off-field
• get Zibai and play Bina off field

[surreal birch]

okok ill save for lauma

ty

[deft sandal]

i habe other characters is just that i want a good lunar bloom team

[lyric cargo]

upside to Ineffa is it's a flexible core (works with many on-fielders)
and gives you a team immediately

Zibai is kinda like that as well, she's running soon

a time for Lauma's first rerun has not been announced yet

[surreal birch]

u think zibai would be a good dps?

is she like noelle

[drowsy shuttle]

with the crit rate, i have 69.9% (along with her talent buff)
and with the crit dmg circlet i have 44% crit dmg

@lyric cargo

and ive noticed that with ttds , my flins does more dmg

[lyric cargo]

he does, but Bina's ER requirements get a lot higher
on paper, Fav Codex should be better
you increase Flins's damage by making him build less ER

[drowsy shuttle]

im ngl everyone says this but my bina at 166% ER always has burst uptime

[lyric cargo]

if you're not able to adjust the Flins build by running just enough ER, and you already have enough ER on him, this is kinda eliminated I guess

[drowsy shuttle]

my flins build is kinda bad 😭

but since im not pulling for neuvillette etc then i can focus on him later

[lyric cargo]

I can only say what I've seen by looking at many sources, I didn't do the calculations myself

[drowsy shuttle]

oh

whats the file limit on this server? i can send a recording

[lyric cargo]

Bina's good weapons should be either prototype amber of fav codex

[lyric cargo]

uhh, 50mb maybe

[drowsy shuttle]

ok lemme try wait

ill vs the new booss

[lyric cargo]

it might be higher, but it's the largest video i remember successfully uploading

[lyric cargo]

there's a miliastra wonderland stage you can now use

[drowsy shuttle]

should i do it there? or here

[lyric cargo]

it has an enemy that will basically never die, and calculates you dps for you

[drowsy shuttle]

lemme go there noiw

ok im in

lemme record

@lyric cargo what do i show? my rotation orr

[lyric cargo]

I'm not really sure if we need to see video
I'm not a Flins player myself, so I can't tell you what you're doing wrong

[drowsy shuttle]

lol

[lyric cargo]

an enka buildcard would help me the most

[lyric cargo]

ingame stats have very limited use for me

enka: https://enka.network/

[drowsy shuttle]

(ill be maxing her weapon tmr)

[lyric cargo]

no Ineffa as of yet, I assume?
running Fischl Sucrose?

[drowsy shuttle]

dont mind my flins weapon being R1 i feel like i have so much potential but i have no luck with the crafting thing

[drowsy shuttle]

yh

C6 both

[lyric cargo]

it's decent with c6 Fischl I heard, not sure how much it loses without that

since the hexerei buff doubles with her c6

[drowsy shuttle]

yh

[lyric cargo]

what con is Fischl? any chance you'll get her c6 while trying to get ineffa?

I'd personally have gone for ineffa over Bina's signature

[drowsy shuttle]

i actually went for ineffas weapon but forgot to put the pity thing for any of the weapons lol

this is what happened this morning

[lyric cargo]

mmh, going for the weapon and now can't get the char?

there's still a good bit of the banner left of course

[drowsy shuttle]

i can get the char lol

[lyric cargo]

oh

[drowsy shuttle]

the roation just to visualise

[high sable]

how much ER does bina need? pairing her with ineffa

[drowsy shuttle]

100 only.

[lyric cargo]

is your situation covered by this?

[lyric cargo]

100 is definitely too low, in most Ineffa teams

or do you mean 100 extra on top of the 100% every char starts with?

[drowsy shuttle]

oh

[drowsy shuttle]

yh

[thorn bay]

So many missed crits ;(

[old citrus]

should i use ballad of the forjs whatever its called or the nod krai craftable spear for ineffa?

[half anchor]

guys what assumptions do dps tier lists take cus i never see skirk's numbers above like 140k but my team in the dps test minigame gets 160k

[elder bluff]

gotta love the zibai one when she is not released

[feral reef]

Thats just a guess dw

Does ineffa count for gleam?

[feral reef]

Kqm standards i believe
If u look that up should find it

[feral reef]

Bandicam what a throwback

[errant parcel]

sum1 help i need a better team pls

[fossil raven]

Should I lowkeniubely spend 64 bucks to get the big pack using a certain website

[half anchor]

no

[thorn bay]

I think pyro trav is better than xiangling also easier

[hot cloud]

I cant beat this abyss bro

That cactus is the worst