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maybe from standard?
i got it on standard
yeah
i only had one 5* weapon before amos so thats why iām saying amos before iansan
Dw
I got c1r1 nefer before sucrose
iāve been playing for years (with breaks) but when it comes to teams and characters kits, i get so lost
omg thats actual horridā¦
Played one year to get Bennett
I mean that was pretty recent 
i donāt think iāve ever won a 50/50 tbh, C2 diluc, C1 keqing, C1 tighnari aswell as i think all the other standards
How does this part of Mavu ult work? So I can fully charge it, but then I can also overcharge it so it fully charges it twice? Does that make it more powerful?
yes
it directly scales on how much u charge it
@lyric cargo
I seee ty
it shows her fighting spirit, ideally you want a team that fully charges it
but you can use it once it reaches half-full
^ @shadow gazelle
I suppose that weapon makes it hard to use her other sets
Night of Sky's Unveiling give 30% CR, MH gives 36%..
well balanced crit ratio, just losing ~1 cr roll to overcap
is the buildcard assumption actually the team you're using?
personally i would go with more crit dmg even at the cost of crit rate i like around 80%cr
but i do love playing her so i wont mind resetting a lot XD
very true i have a Homa build with 79 and 229 so this is just rank
i do got homa its just that i am not getting a good CR circlet on SR
yes i tested the damage its a lot of diffrence
unless you rly care about akasha rank^^
but allas i dont use her much so i just kept it
nah ik half the times akasha ranks dont realy matter, like my skirk out damages my frineds when he has higher rank than me
its just artifact quality
but imma keep this for now cause honestly even tho i love to use her, witht he current hp scaling i just cant use her
and homa is kinda cracked for arle and escoffer
because of the constellation that gives cr for a short time?
normally you do so many hits in a stygian clear that you get pretty much the average every time
true
unless it's a char who deals most damage in a single hit
but a stygian run is ~2 minutes (when you're concened about being able to vs not being able to clear)
so even when most of your damage is in a single hit, it's like 4-6 rotations?
yh nah c6 doesnt help much is ass XD
welp i used my 4 gaurenteed for that circlet roll and its good for now, i just need to pray i get a good CR circlet i can use later
tbh c6 is mostly a sigle rotation buff only
10s uptime if it procs at the right time and 60s cooldown LMAO
if you cant kill in that rotation its over
and also you dont need CR for that as she gets 100% cr
ofc lets not forget she needs to die first to activate
yh no you can rely on the c6 XD
cant*
if it procs and you reset, do you have to wait 60s before you start your next run? 
yes but im talking about a single rotation with highesr CDMG you can get
yh not rly great with todays enemy hp pools
i also heard you can do hutao with the nod krai set from Creator expereance server with columbina
very true, which is why im just keeping her as a trophy
yh her best current team is with it n yelan, aino n ineffa as the teammates
unless they buff liyue charecters like they did with monstad, but i doubt it will happen
only if i had innefa
Does anyone play Genshin using Boosteroid, and if so how is your experience with it?
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idk what that is
but with current build open wold is confortable so im ok with that
does song of days past 4p effect only buff your damage after 6s of healing? and for 5 hits?
I guess this is enough for Columbina?
i think u need more cr for fav
I intend to equip p.amber
you have better artifacts than I do
crit circlet should be better I think
I put my pieces on Yelan, the event bow has the same stats as fav codex
not doing new set?
I think my serenade pieces are better for now at least
i see, well im just gonna yolo the new set and pray
i do got some good double crit unleveld peices tho
but i heard she hp based
well
if you're using Lauma, then the team's main damage source are her quills
some of them will be used by Nefer, some by Bina
unless Bina is the on-fielder, then she uses almost all of them
Lauma quills scale off the trigger unit's crit and Lauma's EM
they don't benefit from lunar reaction%
so I'm building ER to hopefully burst first rotation
crit for the Lauma quills Bina gets to trigger
and ideally hp% to hit 35k
idk if ER to burst first rotation is optimal
maybe you're supposed to max out on crit, get 35k hp, and just build ER to burst on future rotations
i see welp i dont got nefer so mine will be HB based, tho i wonder if i can do some weird bloom team
Can't someone help me in stygianš š
I've been asking since last year
That explains why I sometimes deal 700k and sometimes deal 300k
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if my columbina will be a support should she use serenade?
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do you guys use lootbar? im thinkingabt getting a welkin but im unsure if i should get it from genshin or lootbar
How do I quick start natlan I canāt find the option?
Iām currently at the quest where you trial shenhe
You cant anymore
Damn so I gotta skip all of Fontaine now?
Why
Can someone let me in their world so I can get Sethos materials? I am missing the ore he needs and the drop from that boss in Chenyu Vale! (My server is America and I am AR 41 almost 42!)
Can't someone help me in stygian?š š
I've been asking since last year anyone from the US serverš
lmao if u were being ignored that bad u prob shouldāve just headed to the official discord to ask but yeah sure i can hop on in a bit if you still need it
Thank youš
whatās ur uid i have to get ready to go out soon but we can prob do it rq in like 10 min
Just a sec sire
Let me your own so i can add you immediately
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for what it's worth, I don't think too many of the regular helpers here play on US server 
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Is columbina main dps possible for f2p whoās new
I have
and do
her special charged attack is only for lunar-bloom
lunar-bloom is heavily reliant on Lauma, so if you don't have her focus on off-field Bina instead (Lunar-Charged or Lunar-Crystallize)
Should I just pick up Lauma on her rerun?
Is Lauma rerunning soon? anyone have any idea?
we don't know, but the first rerun usually happens within the same region
maybe the version after Bina, or the version after that?
Lauma came out one patch after Ineffa I think, and Ineffa will have her rerun next patch
Possibly 6.8
arle benny columbina ineffa thoughts?
Do you want to vape once a century?
Cuz u can do that with that team
there wont even be that much lunar reactions
the point isnāt just the vapes itās that ineffa does a shit ton of damage lmao
itās probably a strong wheelchair if your arle is less invested
so hydro won't stick?
she should get some vapes since you donāt need super duper high app for arle itās just that her damage contribution prob isnāt gonna be majority of team damage and arle has never been the best at taking advantage of vape anyways
not a bad team at all just likely on the lower end in terms of arle personal dps
arlebina team though so big W
or pretend she's hutao and run double hydro over Bennett š„¹
(it frees Ben up for another team, so as you can see lowering Arle's damage will be worth it!)
(but that's why I'd prefer Arle Chev Fischl Durin)
(better yet, replace Arle with Varesa in that team)
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would if be worth it to go for zibai? - im pulling for columbina but not her signature. i want zibai and her weapon bc i LOVE her design but i also need lauma to perfect my nefer team. however im f2p... and i have no clue when lauma will rerun, i currently have 120 wishes saved for zibai and columbina with 60 pity. is it do-able 
afaik, Zibai's kit isn't officially released yet. not shown on the creator experience server either?
What the fandom wiki shows is this, no numbers yet
the general advice would be to just go for one lunar team, since the second won't have Columbina and will probably be weaker
so it would make more sense to just pull columbina and save for laumas rerun?
Should i prioritize columbina or Ineffa if i have flins
Lauma or another char, having some savings isn't the worst
Bina + Ineffa is also defensible since she can slot into quite a few teams (can be the 4th char on Nefer teams even)
but it might not give you that many more team options, might depend on the account
idk how useful that is compared to actual calcs, but here's a test someone did on creator experience server
it'd be team 3 vs team 5 you're considering?
it's probably not that good a comparison, because the investment will be different for you
they assume Flins sig, and they assume Bina/Ineffa sig
(surely someone who has to skip one of the supports won't have gotten sigs)
they also assume Fischl and Aino c6
I see ty. Ik columbina will def have a rerun within 2 or more patch but i just wanna get her firstš
their conclusion was pretty much that lacking either support is a similar loss
ideally you can grind out enough wishes to get both
but that depends on putting time into the game you might not have 
I can def get both tho (if i dont lose the 50/50) im just not gonna expect that to happenš
i feel like hoyo just says 'u can only make content about unreleased character n days before release'
with this roster am i better off trying to get xilonen in the time i have left (50 ish pity) or get columbina for lunar charged stuff
Nothing do to abt this right?
just make sure to get the remaining ones
there's a sheet you can use to find a world with any package you want
but it's 1 per day yeah
you didn't play genshin for a while?
hello
No I had a little emergency going on the past weeks
i havent used any of the lunar reactions yet and dont have any lunar characters but i want columbina, does she go well with raiden?
Oh well sucks to be me
Raiden Columbina teams exist, yeah. It's largely carried by the fact Ineffa + Bina is a strong core, though
so Raiden, Bina, Ineffa
ineffa is the robot girl yes?
yes
taking advantage of having lower ER reqs than usual on that team
I guess that part depends on your artifacts
any help?
would ineffa be better without columbina or would columbina be better without ineffa because im gonna try for both but gotta get lucky for that
better off getting Bina imo
This is so niche and I love it. Like in what scenario would my own world not be good enough
I haven't seen calcs or gameplay for that
would navia zl bina baizhu work?
for Raiden specifically?
well for someone who has no lunar characters(last 5 star i got was nahida before i quit)
For raiden both bina and ineffa are uninteresting if you dont have both
still bineffa raiden is not really a raiden team anymore
Baizhu doesn't really fit, the dendro aura would prevent geo reactions
who would work best then?
maybe a second hydro, or Ineffa
or Zibai over Navia
no not just raiden, these are my chars
two 5*s in one month would kill me
I dont have any "new" characters since i quit a while back
xq or maybe i build aino?
Wait and then get illuga 
is it only aoe lmao
Ineffa works because:
lunar-charged consumes 0.5u hydro and electro right away
then the geo app will trigger both electro-crystallize and lunar-crystallize
someone like Fischl probably wouldn't work, since electro aura will get refreshed and be too strong to react through
geo will react with electro before it reacts with hydro
Bigger circle
any help here?
seems that way, yeah
I think neither is particularly crazy for you right of the bat before you get both
ineffa is maybe a little better but 
I think you should think about pulling a modern DPS
any reccomendations?
and base support pull choices around that
or pull both ineffa and bina at the same time if you have the funds that works too
Hu Tao and pull Citlali??
Hutao, Bina, Ineffa, [hydro] works
but honestly you should be looking towards some completely new teams soon
the power level has increased quite a bit
still, getting supports first is always a good idea and they'll fit with your existing units
any new dps is good
but yeah, if you can get both bina and ineffa that willl give you a strong core
that would work with older dps too
i thought bina was a lunar buffer? how does she help hu tao? also i have no idea what ineffa does š
bina applies hydro and does damage
ineffa also does damage
hutao can then still just play vape because uhave the hydro app for it witgh a second hydro
so now hutao does damage, bina does damage, ineffa does damage
the most important part is obviously getting the primos, yeah
but this event is giving me 42 purple books, which is like 1/8 of a lvl90 char?
and you end up in a pretty good spot
the Bina + Ineffa core is good off-field dmg, yeah
it also gives Hutao a bunch of EM and lets her vape
gonna be hard to get both
but attempts shall be made
the idea is not that bina + ineffa are inherently synergistic with ht or raiden, but rather that tehy are synergistic with each other to form a core tghat jusit does a lot of damage
but yeah, you are sidelining buffs for your main dps to get this core
Raiden does ~12% of her teams damage in her new best team
getting even one of them should be a positive for my account no? even if for the future
thats what I mean with its not really a raiden team anymore
does her new team have that emo guy in it
flins
i see him in every team i want nowadays
Is comeubisnas kit out
yes
Is she good
yes, she made lunar reaction teams perform better
Yay another lunar shill
i can also use it on wheelchair lunar quickbloom tighnari
got any nod-krai chars so far?
Only nefer
How i love playing nefer without lauma
ah. Lauma is still very much needed, yeah
I think it'll be much more comfotable to play with Bina, no more Aino circle impact and not short on verdant dew anymore
but hopefully Lauma gets a rerun soon
she came out the patch after Ineffa, right? Ineffa is getting hers next patch
I doubt lauma is getting a rerun after her
I guess without Lauma hold skill you can do some Bina charge attacks in rotation downtime (if there's any)
but the extra verdant dews won't be of that much benefit
she might not, yeah
but likely soon?
Yeah i hate how they made lauma powercreep nahida for no reason
thankfully it looks like you can just use both, on Bina teams as well
I wouldn't use nahida if i had lauma, nahida probably isn't any better than yaoyao there
Anyways im planning to lauma anyways so im team lauma
afaik she's a contender for the best 4th slot in Nefer, Lauma, Bina
comparable to Ineffa
better than Kuki / Sucrose
I'll use her when p-amber Bina is enough sustain
but my Nahida is c2, so she does more for the team than at c0
If im on my phone I'll take yaoyao
is ineffa still worth getting or should i just get columbina?
my team is flins, columbina, fischl (assuming i dont get ineffa) and sucrose what artifcat should columbinq use since im using r5 prototype amber
How many wishes do you have rn before I give my opinion
200+
Guaranteed or need to win 50/50?
i have guranteed rn, but im prioritizing columbina
I would personally say go for columbina only (if you already have lauma and nefer) or test your luck on both columbina and ineffa if you have flins and want a āpremiumā team. Both ineffa and flins can benefit from columbinaās lunar buffs and ineffa also provides some buffs as well as shielding for a bit of sustain. She is also a very strong sub dps due to her talent scaling making her a viable option for this team comp
If youāre looking for a dps columbina, id suggest goong for her and he r weapons
sadly i dont have any nod krai unit atm, i wanted to use ineffa for neuvilette and there are also suggestions of using columbina + ineffa with other strong main dps characters. i might go for flins eventually during his rerun if i get lucky in my pulls
Which pieces shoudl I aim to replace?
columbina is getting her own set which requiers moonsign level to be at least at ascendants gleam to be at full potnetial so i think thats your best bet as it increasdes lunar reactionds
I heard it only increases her personal lunar reaction and doesnāt benefit the team. This isnāt a bad thing but i have been thinking if serenade set would be better idk tho
Perhaps the plume
Just got this, which is much better. But still no crit rate I guess
if thats the case then id say maybe prefarm serande set and if the new set proves to be bettter then farm the new one instead, either way you get an extra set incase its needed :)
This isnāt too bad of a sacrifice considering the fact that her artifact already gives her a crit vufd
Buff*
She's at 91.8% so yeah
Also, you see how you can craft artifacts, will we be able to craft the serenade set in the next ptch?
oh that i dont know they havent updated the craftible artifacts in a while
guys if i get xilonen, should i build mavuika or varesa?
I mean true!!
got a screenshot of your char pool?
getting Xilonen doesn't really impact Varesa teams
Mavuika can use Xilonen, but it's also possible to use Iansan or Sucrose or a second cryo unit in that slot (Escoffier?)
if your Iansan is with Varesa, that somewhat increases the value of Xilonen for your Mavuika
In general I'd assume saving for Columbina would be more impactful than getting Xilonen
this banner does have very good 4ā s though, especially if you have Varesa
so you can definitely risk getting one of the 5ā s and if you get to soft pity without you can reconsider saving and just guarantee Columbina
is columbina that worth it
constellations on Iansan and Chevreuse?
what's your current pity, wishes, starglitter?
she is, but specifically for lunar reaction teams
both c1 and im at 69 pity, 35 starglitter T-T
so either Lauma teams, Ineffa teams, or potentially Zibai teams
dang i dont have a single lunar reac character
you'd want Citlali for Mavuika, Durin for Varesa, and then one of the lunar teams imo
any wishes / primogems left?
Mavuika
Bennett
Citlali
Xilonen/Sucrose/2nd cryo
Varesa
Iansan
Chevreuse
Durin/pyro traveler
it's also possible to use Mav as the pyro for Varesa, but she can make a very good team of her own if you have Citlali
69 is very close to the next 5ā
35 starglitter can be 7 wishes
Best free to play columbina dps team?
And also, best dolphin team?
On my f2p alt I gotta get Lauma + columbina + ineffa and Iāll slay the meta
without lauma, I would not recommend attempting it
best dolphin is probably c2 lauma > Bina r1 > Bina c2
for teammates, probably Kuki and Aino
Yeah but for overworld shenanigans
basically almost all the damage in lunar bloom comes from Lauma quills
applies to both Nefer and Columbina
On my newer alt, should I get
Lauma, ineffa, columbina? Or skip one?
And should I get weapons for them or nah
getting all three is not bad
you can leave out Ineffa if you want, she's not necessary for Lauma teams. Just one possible last team slot
I heard sheās good for columbina driver/dps though
Cause columbina does lunar charge too
I've seen:
Bina, Lauma, Ineffa, Aino/Yelan/Nahida
Bina, Lauma, Nilou, Nahida/Baizhu
Bina, Lauma, Kuki, Aino
I haven't spent too much time looking at Bina on-field teams
is it possible to make a team with main dps klee and raiden?
Klee and Raiden both want the majority or the team's field time, unless you force one of them to be a support
either EM Raiden for overloads or c2 Klee for defense shred
I wouldn't recommend it
there are better options for the support slot
both probably want a Chevreuse overload team right now, I would guess?
Raiden with Durin, Klee with Fischl?
Raiden probably uses Fischl + Durin to get the hex buffs
Does milastra wonderland give you primos
there was an event that gave some, but otherwise no
How much?
it does indirectly give you 6 standard fates
by getting your wonderland level to 10, you can fully ascend the Manekin and Manekina chars
let me find it
Oh damnn
Ty
I finally got chevruse this morning. 2 dollars down lmao
whats the most premium nilou team
I don't really know their higher constellations, but I'd guess Lauma Bina Nahida
with Lauma c1 for healing
nilou c6 kazuha c6 xilonen c6 furina c6 i think
she gets huge crits at c6 that scale on hp
Durin vap nilou angle YEP
just bathe nefers cat
Do we know what 4 stars are on the Columbia banner
Hellohelloo which one is better for skirk?
That one
Hi
Does anyone have pyro box in asia server?
Help me plz eu server wl-8 fot some normal boss
nobody
so i shud keep her at lvl 20? š
if you like her u can build her
can also help for your IT char count if you level her up to 70
Depends on crit needs big smirk specifically doesnāt need er so Iād go right but
That 25.6 is very good seemingly
No she wants to be on field doing swirls with off field applicators
But yeah you could do 70 for theater
I get all chars to 6/6/6 and level 81 cause it makes me feel complete
left one is nice if you're overcapping crit rate otherwise
25.6 + 2 * 3.9 = 33.4 roll value
11.7 + 2* 9.7 = 31.1 roll value
the added atk% roll more than makes up for it, though
I'm not sure I'd have re-rolled an 8-liner for a char with 3 useful substats
I grinded for 9-liners with all 3 subs on Nefer before re-rolling, and it seemed manageable (didn't take unreasonably long. I didn't calculate the chance though)
each box has its own column, just look for the UIDs underneath the box you're looking for
should i get columbina and ineffa? i dont have any other nodkrai units atm but i do need supports, should i just get culbimuna and skip ineffa or get both and wait for more nodkrai units to release?
Should you
there are basically three options:
- Bina + Ineffa
- Bina + Lauma
- Bina + Zibai (likely)
(1) can be with Flins or other teams can use the core
(2) can be with Nefer or on-field Bina
(3) means you don't have to pull a 5-star support,
but are instead incentivized to go deep on Zibai so you can get Illuga constellations I would guess
this should be all we know about Zibai (screenshot from the fandom wiki)
not much, but it confirms lunar crystallize so likely Columbina teams
so i should get both if i plan on pulling lunar dmg dps?
Ineffa on Lunar-Charged teams is needed for best results
Ineffa on lunar-bloom is one option for a 4th slot
it gives you a shield without losing damage
Ineffa on lunar-crystallize probably works, but is not a most
do you think columbina could work with alhaitham as bloom, gets converted into lunar bloom + ineffa for extra dmg
Alhaitham is likely not good enough to keep up in today's meta
lunar-bloom as a reaction is just bloom that gives you "verdant dew"
verdant dew is used by:
- Nefer's charged attacks
- on-field Bina charged attacks
- Lauma's hold skill
lunar bloom damage only exists as direct damage, dealt by those three chars
it heavily relies on Lauma to make it good
aa so who do i get in that case
cause i mean ineffa could still be a good investment for future characters that might rely on reactions
got any preference for one of the three lunar reaction's chars?
they'll likely be similarly viable
honestly flins looks like a character thats fun to play and i do think i can save up enough after getting both if i chose to
another option is to look at your artifacts for Night of Sky's Unveiling and Silken Serenade
ill see if my opinion changes after the update releases but otherwise ill just get columbina
Flins wants NSU with cr, cd, atk%, er, (em)
Nefer wants NSU with cr, cd, em
Zibai probably wants NSU with cr, cd, ???
we don't know her scaling yet I think
then flins would be my best choice
Zibai needs night skyās def%, double crit. Perhaps
Her showcase in livestream has gorou who buff def%
one thing to note is that Flins is a char you'd grind the domain a lot for, to get really good artifacts
his max potential isn't something you can really reach by crafting (getting all 4 useful subs on flower / plume, 3 useful subs on sands / goblet / circlet)
Never sands / goblet / circlet only have 2 useful subs, so they're perfect crafting targets
and getting a flower / plume with em + cr + cd is easier than getting one with 4 useful subs for Flins
once you get a good flower / plume for Nefer, it can very realistically be re-rolled to avoid the final bad stat
(3/4)^5 ~= 25% chance to completely avoid rolling into the final stat
so like 4 rerolls on average
I want to get Bina. I have around 240 pulls saved up and 71 pity no guarantee. Check image.
My question is who I should pull to work with Bina since I don't have any NK characters (except Aino I guess).
Should I get Ineffa and then try for either signature weapon? Or get Bina, then wait for Zibai and get Illuga cons + perhaps Neuv/Zibai signature
Maybe even get Bina, then see my 50/50 for Ineffa. If win > go for either weapon. If loose > Wait for Zibai?
But then I kinda don't like Zibai's restrictiveness, but she's very cool otherwise and I don't think I'll use those geo characters otherwise?
Neuv has LPSW and is okay built, check image. So I don't think I NEED his sig per se...
But then if I get Ineffa and Bina, who do I put them in a team with? Neuv wheelchair?
And wb Bina's signature? I know it isn't that much of an upgrade but I still want it... What do ya'll think I should do?
yeah try getting bina + zibai i dont think u need anything else for zibai to work
Not even Illuga nor Zibai's weapon? We don't even know Zibai's kit rn tho?
illuga is on zibai's banner i think u will get him while pulling for zibai
for Ineffa vs Lauma vs Zibai teams, I'd probably choose based on the team you ultimately want
supports are safer pulls if you might pivot to another dps
geo or dendro is nice for theater char count (even though a lunar team might be awkward when hydro isn't available there)
all nod-krai teams should be able to use Ineffa, though she's probably more of a sidegrade for the non-flins ones
dendro requires waiting the longest for a rerun (the other two are already known to run next patch)
You can look at your artifacts, see who you have good pieces for already
Nefer is easiest to craft for, if you have the elixirs. (just 2 useful substats on sands, goblet, circlet. got a 9-liner flower/plume with cr + cd + em? good reroll target for Nefer.)
Flins requires more grinding to get a very good set for, as he has so many useful substats
Zibai's scaling is as of yet unknown
I'd maybe just get Bina for now and see if you can get by the lunar-shill content in stygian with a Fischl Bina team (?)
though that'll mean if you go for Ineffa you can't really level her until after the first 10 days of stygian are over
as you'll want to put your resin into artifacts until the farming phase ends
Zibai's full kit will be known before Bina's banner ends
You know I don't have any good artifacts atm haha
Nefer would require Lauma, both whom we don't know the rerun times for. I need a team I can run Bina on asap haha. And to clear Lunar Reaction shilled content easier.
I don't think getting ineffa would be a pull you really regret, regardless of what nod-krai dps you end up going for
though it might lead you to be short on pulls on another banner and have to wait for a rerun
I could try Bina, Fischl, Sucrose and someone (who?)
likely a nod-krai char to enable the 4pc effects on Serenade and Night of Sky's Unveiling?
you only have Aino so far, no Jahoda either?
No Jahoda, no
so, getting Ascendant Gleam here means not having an on-fielder š¤
I think a full lunar-charge team without Ineffa won't clear bosses in time, even if it has ascendant gleam to deal with the shill
I don't have many electro charged options. Neuv tazer barely holds up from my experience. And my Haitham team just doesn't perform nowadays...
and Neuv, Bina, Aino is kinda cursed because he won't get his draconic stacks
the best lunar-shill team here might just be Bina Aino Mav Bennett š
if you're skipping Ineffa and waiting for Zibai or Lauma
to be fair, Mav might actually work
because of your ascendant gleam options, if Bina + Aino is all you have
If I don't get Ineffa... How important is Ascendant Gleam?
Skirk Bina Aino is possible, but you lose the Furina Escoffier duo
Neuv struggles because of draconic stacks
Raiden / Alhaitham are likely just too old?
Arle is possible, but basically a worse version of Mav?
maybe it's better, depending on sig weapons / jad winged spear
I think that covers all non-Ineffa options until Zibai comes out or Lauma has a rerun?
Hmmm
it does 3 things:
- enable char kits (not relevant here, Bina just gets larger AoE on her hydro app and you don't have others)
- enable artifacts (not relevant here here, nobody triggers lunar reactions in that team and Mav has her own set š¤)
- disable some enemies in stygian, but for others you actually need lunar reaction damage. I kinda forgot about that
Disabling enemies sounds like a huge deal
And timesaver
yeah, it depends on the enemy
that's what I was thinking of when I suggested the team
but now that I think about it, that's just one of the shill bosses we had
Which one?
it was Sigurd (Battle-Hardened Lightkeeper: Mourning Echoes)
so, unless it's against Sigurd this team won't be good
maybe if Bennett is replaced by someone who can actually trigger lunar-charged or lunar-crystallize
Xilonen? probably not enough lunar-crystallizes
so yeah, your options without Ineffa or Zibai for next stygian might be a bit cooked
I just used Skirk on that guy iirc
š
So I need to get either of them. But I kinda don't feel like waiting 21 more days to complete her team...
And trying for Bina cons aren't worth it over actually getting a NK character, right?
yeah
I think Ineffa is pretty good, and she can likely be used on Zibai teams or Nefer teams if you don't go for Flins
I don't know if she adds that much over other options there, but she give a strong shield and will be a competitive option
And she appearently does a load of dmg as well
yh, I'd look at team dps for full teams though
not individual chars
Fair
But the Flins team dps she did almost the same as Flins
this is from creator experience, it's kinda promising? testing with sigs, though
I guess you need the lunar-charged teams for context (to compare the lunar-crystallize version against)
and it's not really a replacement for seeing a Zibai team
You've shown this before, yeah
is varesa okay on codex? i am playing her with mavuika chevreuse and iansan so should i keep farming codex more or just switch to oath
This is the right choice... right?
you're not too far into farming codex, so might as well get LNO tbh
I don't think it's on strongbox yet, though, and you might not have a use for the other set in that domain
plus you likely want to keep farming codex for Mavuika anyways?
I'd aim to give Mav her own team in the future:
Mav, Bennett, Citlali, Iansan/Xilonen/Sucrose
Varesa, Chevreuse, Iansan, Durin
im just missing citlali for her actually and codex domain is really better for my characters i think
Can some one give me luck
Ok i need some serious help man. I got 270 wishes. But i want columbina, ineffa, and neuvillette! But i got no nod krai characters.
I think these 3 you want can form a strong team already btw
and you can hv free aino
if we get LNO strongbox and your codex pieces for Varesa aren't godlike yet, maybe LNO strongbox is a consideration
But is that enough wishes for all 3?
if you're lucky to win all 5050. you still can farm primo in next patch (new map, lantern rite etc)
but columbina + ineffa are already strong. even lose Neuvi after got ineffa & columbina, you can put them with other DPS you have too
You have C4 Ayaya! I'm a bit jealous.
Ok ill go for it! Thank you for the advice everyone!
Jade spear and jade cutter aren't in standard banner right?
Spear is but not the cutter
I think spear is standard
Wow jade spear is in standard? Im just unexceptionally unlucky then
And i don't even have wolf gravestone... But apparently i needed 3 skyward blades
I got my second Skyward Harp the other day, both from standard
ended up deciding to level it rather than refine
now I have Venti and Fischl on Skyward,
Ororon uses the new event bow or fav,
and Tighnari doesn't have a weapon better than Amos if I'm using Venti and Fischl at the same time
so I guess even if I got like Venti sig on a future banner there's still some use for the extra Harp
Harp and lost prayer are like the only good ones anyways
plus the first aquila and skyward blade for Bennett
copies, not really
Is aquila over skyward even worth it
PJWS can be good for Arle or Flins havers
You lose like 50 er
depends on ER reqs, he doesn't really have other priorities besides ER
Yeah except that, jade spear is actually pretty good. I just just talked about the skyward stuff
skyward blade gives ER
with Mav or Arle he can get 5 pyro particles funnelled
Thats what im saying.. is aquila over skyward even worth it
I read or 
for me, I only have Aquila and no Skyward yet
so I'm using that, and not struggling with ER mostly
if I were to use him without Mav in stygian, I'd likely want Skyward
Imagine 710 base atk with er sub and effect
Who
same ^^
I don't exactly have a 100% rate of actually selecting weapons that'll benefit me, though 
Nefer sig and Mav sig were alright pull decisions
SoSS, Verity, Key were mistakes
Soss is very good tho
I got SoSS and Verity early on, when I didn't know better
then later Key for Furina which I barely use (she's on fav usually)
yh, I got it for Xiangling where it's barely an upgrade š
I just saw it was best in slot but not by how much it was actually better than "the catch"
if I had Flins or Ineffa or Hutao or even Arle, I'd get some use out of SoSS
it's currently on Escoffier as you can see (just need to somehow not overcap CR)
they kinda nerfed it a bit with every on-fielder getting a crit rate set
I always think character first.. weapons if i have some pulls left
yh
I go for weapons mostly when either both 5-stars are a big increase for me,
or one 5-star is, and the 4-stars are amazing
I really need a good sword and claymore now
for Zibai and.. Mav?
nvm, you have Nefer. idk if you'd still go for Zibai
Nah im never getting mav.. its for clorinde and maybe skirk and gaming
I think it's mostly sig or bust these days, for most chars
not sure about Clorinde, she's kinda from before those days
Ga Ming can use fruitful hook at high refindement or Mav's sig I think
She's pretty great with that 4 star. It just locks her with a shield
yh
So its either thoma or bust
Skirk, Furina, Escoffier, [good hydro or cryo shielder they'll surely make in the future]
currently just Dahlia?
oh, for Clorinde I see. I thought Skirk
Do we need shielder for skirk
Oh i don't even have skirk
ah
I might risk getting her if the banner is good
I got Escoffier, but skipped Skirk at the time because I didn't want team overlap with Neuv
Its not a risk actually she'll be my only cryo dps. Rn its chasca
yh, I just think they won't make cryo shill bosses I can't handle until they make a new cryo char
Skirk is locked to hydro, so I was able to do the overseer with Neuv Furina Escoff
I also just like skirk she looks pretty cool
Chasca is a great cryo dps for elite runs, the only one they made who has good mobility š
I'd have gotten her, but I feel like I'd need c2r1 to make her good enough for general stygian bosses
idk, maybe you don't need that much investment. All I heard was that her c0 isn't that strong but her early investment is very good to make up for it
what are these currents called? I'd like to look up a map with them
just hit it with octopus bomb
they're eels, iirc?
check the unofficial interactive map
should be with the other Fontaine chest puzzles
They're not even int the interactive map tf
they are in the general puzzle
They fall under the mini puzzle category
oh
they are? I couldn't find them
I think that's it! thank you
Can geo traveler work with columbina
as well as any bad options go yh it would "work". but mainly lauma, ineffa or zibai id think so wont be a good pull without one of those 3
Yes
I mean any character can be run with ineffa bina and reach over 100k team dps
wait have any prerelease videos looked at teams without ineffa? I dont really want to have to pull two characters in the patch š
I donāt have vids but Iāve heard a NILOU bloom works for columbina
And ofc zibai
And f2p fischl columbina collei and flex(aino)
sheās a lot less versatile without ineffa
On my alt is it worth it to get the trio of Colum + ineffa + Lauma
ineffa and lauma are arguably the two best pulls of nodkrai so yeah probably
and as youāve heard ineffa+bina is a very strong duo rn
also means you basically have a full team for dps bina with those three
bye bye nahida ig
unless I want to go for c1 lauma 
but atp just go ineffa
I just want to save for varka D:
so you'll sort of want to have at least two teams that you can run. I'm assuming that your first team is just vape mavuika?
if you want to pull a duo you can consider columbina + ineffa
Yes
skirk will want to steal furina so you'd probably be forced to pull for citlali for mavuika
neuvi is okay but he will also want to steal furina
It'll just be easier for you to clear abyss with lower investment if you just invest in the current enemy shill mechanics
Its comparatively easier to pull Neuvillette since he is confirmed
But I cant manage Skirk and Escoffier if they come in consecutive patches or together
As a casual f2p player it will be hectic
what? bina and ineffa are confirmed right?
Im still on 50 50, and 47 pity with no primos...
Hoping that Lantern Rite will give some pulls
And I ll finish the story. Proceed with some Exploration
I'd go for Citlali no matter what, to make Mavuika's best team.
Vape doesn't really come close, so consider Furina available for other teams.
I'd get a lunar team of your choice. Columbina + either Ineffa, Zibai, or Lauma
I'd probably rather get Skirk than Neuv at this point, but it's two 5ā pulls compared to just one.
tbh I havent seen the prerelease videos on creator server so idk how much we know about columbina solo without any other nod krai supports but ineffa solo has been fine
tbh I think getting citlali is a lower priority than getting the second team up
bina without nodkrai is pretty unexceptional afaik
I have it on list for now
yeah, I meant eventually. As in, I wouldn't consider Furina to be her team
I have some good HDB goblets also. But Im not sure if I can get him.
wtf is hbd
Suppose, I am able to pull Neuvillette. What would my abyss teams look like?
Hydro Damage Bonus Goblet (HDB)
iirc neuvi hyper is like neuvi furina kazuha xilo?
but I'm pretty sure his ineffa teams are better
Well. With my current roster ofc friend
it's just Furina + Xilonen + Kazuha
unless you get some of the newer chars that can wheelchair him, like Ineffa / Lauma / Durin
but those aren't really Neuvillette teams, he's just a possible on-fielder but the core works with or without them
that sort of steals two characters from your mav team, you could go mav OL but you dont have chevy built
which is why I was just recommending you to pull ineffa + columbina
Suppose I go Mav Overload...what would the team look like?
mav iansan fischl chevy? frees your from circle impact
wait yeah it has to be that, cant swap out iansan for bennett
I really dont recommend pulling neuvi tho
he will feel much weaker compared to nod krai dpses and mavuika without higher levels of investment
Sounds fun doing a new reaction tbh
That is true. Maybe. But I m out of options
I cant stop you, but we would highly encourage not pulling neuvilette
Thanks man
Whatās columbinaās best 4* weapon?
If you start attemping world exploration at a higher adventure rank do you get better rewards from chests, puzzles etc?
Im 41 now, thinking of doing MQ until 45 etc
Donāt be :(
Even c1000 ayaya wouldnāt leave a dent in todayās abyss
it makes no difference
you'd probably want to do exploration at your own pace but it'll help you get to 45 faster if you do
doing the main quest is more worthwhile if you're not caught up though
probably something like
Bina, Fischl, Jahoda, Sucrose
maybe lunar-crystallize spam, since that doesn't seem to be limited in how often it can proc per second?
but honestly you each to go for either Ineffa, Zibai, or Lauma
fav or proto amber prob
Technically don't care at all. More like personal preference.
lets address the chef in the room
I thought fav was ahead at first, since p-amber doesn't give energy until burst the first time
for Stygian
but it seems at least as solo hydro you kinda have to give up on bursting first rotation anyways
so p-amber actually ends up the easier choice
need either p-amber or hp% sands to reach the 35k hp target, most likely
(I'm planning to run this on Bina, recurve bow represents p-amber here)
+15% cr (passive)
+10% cr (Lauma)
+10% cr (c2 Nahida)
so for lunar-bloom, I'm already overcapping on crit rate
if I'm not using Nahida, I can use this sands
or this, if ER reqs become much higher
but if bursting first rotation is not an option, reqs should be more manageable
Oh yeah bina is out this week
Ive been on holibob so totally forgot about the fraud
How good is bina based on ce?
Is this a website ur using?
something I'm working on, yeah. not online yet
Wow hidden 50 new site to put his builds at 1
no rankings, just char pool + buildcards + artifact inventory
lets you filter and sort artifacts, organize them with tags, and equip them to buildcards
buildcards will also function as presets, letting you know which chars aren't on a saved build right now
made possible by Irminsul, which can listen to network packages and give you a json file with what's on your account and where it is equipped
is overload with durin alre's best team atm
no
should still be citlali melt
durin overload is good if your arle isnāt really highly invested but the more investment you have in her the more melt outperforms
anyone here with an NA account whos not gonna pull bina '
i know someone but itās cause he loves men
ask him if i can take some of bina flowers when she drops
those will be mine i fear š«
how much gems does this approximately gives? including quests
Probably around a multi
I forgot that existed
Itās so isolated
im lazy doing it, I 100% nodkrai first since it shows everything lmao, im only doing it cuz i want to get columbnina, ineffa , bina/ineff weap , zibai , and try zibai weap

A little life hack harbinger of dawn is almost as good as her signature if you stay above 90% hp for zibai
And the white sword will fit her
If i actually get them, i will try thanks
so now you will need a lil less pulls
From what I've seen, the difference isn't large though and it frees up Bennett which is very valuable if you have Mavuika Citlali you could play
I just don't know whether to trust those calcs
also, from today on transient resin can be saved for Stygian which starts 2026-01-21
ill do my theater after getting bina š¤
preinstall is available
Is this the first time they give the info of second banner early
the 4-stars on the Bina weapon banner š
they just know some people will pull on that for the drip, even if it's a bad banner
Oh
Xiphos though š¤¤
Just get Neuvillette
wao one percent upgrade 
is this a question that cannot be answered by "pull for who you like"
surely Bina can use that now, and not overcap CR 
but yh, Neuv sig is barely an increase for battle pass buyers
for me it's actually considerable, but I'm not going for Zibai as of now
plus I might get Skirk if she gets a good banner
I'd probably use Neuv less then
navia got updated for lunar
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Wtf am i supposed to do here?
Use the barrier to save him from creepy ghostly monsters
He isnt in danger... he is just standing and when i put the barrier there nothing happens
Maybe remove the barrier and once he moves put it back?
he doesnt move
hello could anyone let me know how much i have left till i finish the nod-krai archon quests if i just came back from the fatui base and wild hunt fight
no spoilers please
expect around 8-10 hours of gameplay.
and other 6 more for the upcoming parts. 
so essentially no 500 primos for me
Hey guys, so I have a situation. I just came back for nod krai after a long time. The most recent units I just pulled for are varesa and durin but before that my strongest team was raiden hyperbloom
So I have essentially only aino and jahoda for nod krai characters. Who should I go for in this patch if I had resources to get only one character for the whole patch
it's a difficult question, which is probably why nobody has replied yet
there are basically three paths you can aim towards:
- Bina + Ineffa
- Bina + Zibai
- Bina + Lauma
I think the most important part is to know which of the teams you want to have in the end
Probably either Ineffa, Colombina or Zibai, but it depends on how much you can spend.
I think Ineffa can be a viable 4th char in any of the three teams
so it's not a "mistake" to pull her
but she's replaceable in any but the lunar-charged teams
you'll want Bina for all three, so the most flexible option is to just get her
even though your lunar reaction teams with just Bina are basically nil
there's maybe like
Bina + Aino/Jahoda + Fischl + Sucrose
but that's likely not that strong
Bumping this to see if I can get more opinions haha, specially now that we know the 4*s
Also, could I do any main dps teams? Are there calcs on how those perform?
New thought was that I could get Bina, then go for weapon
Get Ineffas sig > Get Ineffa
Get Bina's Sig > Got C0R1 Bina, now wait and spend everything on Zibai and hope for Illuga cons
bina main dps relies heavily on lauma and i would not recommend going for bina weapon before c2 rn
just go for bina + ineffa instead of bina + sig
or skip ineffa and go all in on zibai banner after getting bina
@lyric cargo what if I can only get one character rn
Not counting the 4 stars I can only get one 5 star what would I do in that situation
Also I find zibai interesting compared to ineffa and bina
that leaves two paths:
- either get Bina, then you have 21 days (Bina banner) + 21 days (Zibai) banner time to farm to get Zibai
- deliberately skip Bina to make sure you can guarantee Zibai
I don't think I'd recommend the second, especially if your world isn't grinded out you should be able to get both
two banners is a lot of time to grind
assuming ~3 wishes a day, 42 * 3 = 126 wishes
So I use my guarantee on bina then? I am on like 10 pity and I lost the last two 50-50s I might have lost three in a row back when I was playing a lot but I am not sure. I personally find zibai a whole lot more interesting than bina. So I am kinda trying to convince myself to just go for one
And my exploration is abysmall so I could grind it out. Just got to tough it out ig. I personally hate exploring.
But ig I will try this method
All for zibai
My inazuma exploration is basically non existent so I could try to max out the Sakura tree ig
Sumeru is also in a sorry state so I might have like a lot of primos
ah, that's unfortunate. It's my favourite part of the game personally, maybe you lack chars with good mobility for exploration?
having a Sayu on the team is a good way to start, if you have her
her roll lasts for quite a while
That might be a good reason actually
I mean I have f2p built varesa team with durin on it and I use that for overworld stuff now
I have her sig and everything
Itās pretty good the enemies die in seconds with that team
I didnāt have that before when I was a raiden main
ah. Varesa is very good for exploration
just need someone to go up slopes maybe?
Yep thatās it
Citlali/Ororon
Mavuika/Xilonen
(only if you have, I won't say get Xilonen to climb ^^)
I tried going for xilonen and lost the 50-50 while I have her sig weapon just sitting there
Because I wanted her tho
maybe someone else can use it. I'm not sure who š¤
someone who doesn't care about their own stats and can build defense
maybe Bennett? ER + def% + def% mainstats with ER subs
I do not have a lot of the natlan characters cause I left the game at the end of fontaine
That might work but do I use him with durin then?
Or maybe if I get zibai(I hope) been having terrible luck lately
I'd keep Durin with Varesa Chevreuse Iansan
Xilo sig would be more for stygian / theater / abyss, where you need more than one team
What are your go to for character calcs? For example I want to know how much of an increase it's for Skirk to go from C0 to C2.
what artifact could i replace for better crit dmg?
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
often there'll be a calc sheet linked for the rankings, but not always
sometimes they have a constellation sheet I think? not sure how often
you likely want a 4pc set before anything else
it's hard to give advice on Freminet though, there's nothing I could suggest for him that meets my standards
in general, you just want pieces with as many useful substats as possible
if his useful substats are cr, cd, atk%
then that's 1 roll on the flower, 2 rolls on the plume, 2 rolls on the sands
you'd want a lot more
thanks
no pale flame 4 set? if play physical Freminet
hard to recommend farming the set, but I guess it's the main option
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds lists blizzard strayer for freeze, but idk if that's a real option
I guess Escoffier means there's a much better support for freeze than for a superconduct team
might as well mention MH as well though, since Esco pretty much implies using Furina is optimal as well
Just get xianyun and play pyro plunge
is he still highest plunge multiplier sans diluc with extra talent levels
pale fame set is for physical Freminet team, with mika, xinqiu, fischl( now ineffa can be too)
i had him on it and then a friend said to change it
yeah, I know it's for physical.. just not sure that beats esco furina freeze
depends which Freminet you want to play. freeze or physical, he's flexible. I decided to play him as physical dps
hmm okay! I was having a hard time with crit so thats why hes not on 4 set. I have an idea of what to do not. Thanks!!
Hello
I have C0R1 Flins, Ineffa C0R0 and Sucrose C6 with evenstar
I am planning on pulling Columbina
Should I get Columbinaās weapon or Ineffaās weapon for this team? What would be better?
Ineffa weapon
It may not be the strongest but could I use
Columbina + Illuga/othergeo + Lauma + ineffa to get all three Luka reactions for fun?
Or does that not work?
You should focus on one reaction
Yeah but does this work for shenanigans?
Like overworld and bosses even if it takes slightly longer
Or will columbina not work well with this at all
her hydro application is not good enough for 2 lunar reactions at the same time
Do you mean three cause 2 seems to work fine
For actual teams
Like if I can get Lauma and ineffa Iāll run aino or idk some other support and be main dps columbina
With two lunar reactions
in that case you can use whatever teams on her
I only assume her being offfield applicator and burst support
If dendro ever takes over, the other elements will have a card time removing it. Kinda like pyro triggering melt.
bloom is a forward/reverse reaction like vape or melt. It has a dominant element.
hydro on dendro consumes 0.5 dendro to make a bloom core. dendro on hydro consumes 2 hydro to make a bloom core.
geo application weakens hydro but does nothing to dendro.
electro application weakens both hydro and electro aura as lunar-charged ticks.
I think you could do either geo or dendro, but not both
let's say you apply:
h ā e ā g ā d
Lunar-Charged is triggered and ticks. Both auras become a bit less than 0.5
Geo reacts first with electro and wants to consume 0.5 aura. There is less than 0.5 electro, so it reacts with the underlying hydro as well
I believe there is now no aura on the enemy, so dendro would take over. Unless it doesn't consume the full 0.5? š¤
hegd
better or worse than AGED? 
agenda
maybe against an enemy with innate aura š¤
Herra?
Ts why genshin peak
Got all these things
Is that for durin
anemo geo electro dendro, yeah. that + pyro are what he shreds res to
(AGED is not a team)
aged like age
after an hour, 60 minutes passed
What channel
this one
I wonder if Mendes can edit this out so no more misunderstanding
This is the co-op channel, but you might be better off asking in official, it's much more active
dont talk about official

well
Hey guys! I'm at AR56 but my characters don't work too well yet, I'm trying to improve, but I think I'm also missing something with the rotation. What do you think would be the best rotation with this team?
Mavuika (DPS/sub DPS), Ganyu (DPS/support), Bennett (support/healer), Alhaitham (DPS)
[it's like a burn-melt team]
got a screenshot of your char pool?
ideally you'd want to replace Alhaitham
it's a melt team if Ganyu can burst to provide off-field cryo application, but the dendro prevents that from working
maybe a second cryo unit like Rosaria would work
or someone like Iansan
is thoma considered part of monstadt or inazuma
Inazuma
im coping because i do not have durin

oop mb just saw it on reddit
team comp regarding a thing i read

What's a char pool? Sorry
Thank you for the insight
basically just your character list
what OXD said
a screenshot, either from ingame or from hoyo's website:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html
the website shows constellations, making it slightly better (just don't use the share button there, it gives a 2-column view)
Here! (I think there were more rows lower but those aren't even higher than level 1 so..)
I'll also be pulling for Columbina and, possibly, Ineffa so just putting that out there
its better to show all characters
All characters
Hiii, could Columbina possibly shine in a team with Nilou, Nahida, and Lauma?
Mavuika, Ganyu, Bennett
Kaeya, Layla, or maybe c6 Diona could be the final slot
no Iansan or Chevreuse, I see. Skipping the current banner?
it's pretty good in terms of 4-stars, if you at least somewhat want Varesa
You might need c1 Lauma for that one, I don't know if prototype amber will be enough healing
but that's the same investment as getting Nefer, so I'm not sure which is better from there
Okie
Thank you!
Yeah, as I said before I'm saving up for Columbina/Ineffa and I can't afford to spend my pulls on other banners as I already don't have a lot (I just came back to play Genshin after almost a year) 
I need a aoe damaging team any reccs
I heard mualani had sth on aoe does she work on first half?
Does kazuha skill count as plunge
Just wondering
floor 12?
It's a bit harder this time. You might have to enter twice, once to get the stars for chamber 3 and then with different teams to get the ones for chambers 1 and 2
12-1-1 and 12-2-1 want whatever your best AoE team is.
12-3-1 wants enough pyro application to fill the circle above it's head halfway to lower its res. Then just single targer damage.
second side wants a team that can plunge. Zhongli's pillar should be enough, or just enough damage to bruteforce the weasels.
it does
:o
well, it puts you in the air and then you click to plunge
it's not technically part of the skill, even though it buffs it a bit I think
I donāt have him so
Enhanced plunge like gaming and xianyun?
I donāt know about xianyun tho
Maybe just gaming
i just need 2 overall teams
for long-term team options, you want Mona and Lauma.
Mona + Sucrose + Pyro Traveler for Mualani
Lauma for Nilou.
Maybe Columbina as well, but that leaves you healerless so maybe it won't be a Nilou or not a Nahida team anymore
They are saying that if you want to go as high stars as possible you might have to do some scuffed techniques to do that by doing different teams abs reentering after you finish
idk who lauma is
i havent played since natlan release
Your pfp is cute tho
If you want to clear in one go, you'll need a team that does AoE for chamber 1 and 2, but also some pyro damage for chamber 3.
the pyro dmg requirement rules out Nilou, that's why I suggested entering twice
she's a bloom reaction support that adds even more damage than Nilou, basically
for all bloom reactions, including hyperbloom / burgeon and the new lunar bloom (which is just chars who deal direct "lunar bloom reaction" type damage with their talents)
wtf is lunar bloom š
they keep adding too much complicated shit its like inazuma but worse
literally this:
chars who deal direct "lunar bloom reaction" type damage with their talents
I'd watch some videos maybe
anways i cant get lauma since shes jnot even on banner
yeah, that part was for future teams (like I said)
dont have mona either
maybe you can run a Mualani team first half. I'm not sure if your chars are built enough.
Lauma here is mostly there because she works in multi wave, you might not need her.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uINMWrDIQJw
She also shreds some hydro res
~Chamber 1
Vetrom - Mualani Theme
https://youtu.be/Ypq-8n24x84
~Chamber 2
Vetrom - Citlali Theme
https://youtu.be/zZ3_CAIq7E0
~Chamber 3
Vetrom - Ifa Theme
https://youtu.be/zLxxow6jVSU
~Ending
č¶čć®ćć - last note
https://youtu.be/PDkz0-evHa8
Timestamp
00:00 Start
00:10 12-1-1
01:52 12-1-2
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yeah, that whole message was for future team options. the one before it was for this abyss
oh alr
I'm not sure who to recommend for second half. Who is well-built?
Raiden and Yoimiya have fallen off a lot.
I'd build Iansan and Chevreuse.
(not for this abyss, that'll be too late)
psure that only my mualani so somewhat decently built
this is such a tough abyss. even with that good play, it takes more than 90 seconds first half
also Yelan and Furina of course
if you end up pulling more on this Varesa banner before it ends, Varesa Iansan Chevreuse Durin would be a good team.
any additional constellations for Chevreuse and Iansan are good as well.
(another off-field pyro until Durin will work as well)
Anyone need help
What does iansans kit even do?
the tl;dr version is that she's Bennett
obviously she's electro, so no pyro resonance
Does she res shred or buff?
she gives a flat atk buff that requires the on-fielder to move to maintain it
Ah.
it can be snapshot, by someone like Fischl or Xiangling
so they will get the full buff even without movement
Is it worth it when you have people like kujou sara?
yeah, Sara is not great
Ik she does give attack off feild buff thp
before c6 she's basically just a short duration ttds
the movement eequirement means she's primarily made for Natlan dps like Varesa, Mavuika, Kinich, Chasca
but some other chars can make it work
Ah so like.
Ok i get it ty
she can also hold the artifact set "Scroll of the Hero of Cinder City"
which gives a massive teamwide dmg% buff (40% if held by a Natlan character)
her is correct
it kinda depends on what the current situation of your account is
(wishes, pity, how big of a problem it would be to get Columbina on her first rerun instead of tomorrow if you get an early Varesa)
the current banner 4ā
s are basically insanely good and give you an entire meta team in one 5ā
pull
Bina is very good if you have other Nod-Krai chars. If you don't have those yet, then her value will come later anyways
Yea but also if im pulling for a 4 star
I want bennet to be c6 cuz i want pyro infusion for mauvika
Ik dehya kinda does pyro infusion but not well enough
Guys should i get columbina
100% yes
Alr
Mavuika already has pyro infusion. he does give her 20 dmg% at c6, which is nice
Shell be good for any dendro electro or geo main team shell revive those elements main dps
Both electro and dendro aren't dead rn
Not at c0
What
you should only pull for a 4ā in a situation where you want the 5ā , but can't / won't invest the wishes to force it
basically if getting a discounted 5ā would be a good thing and the 4ā s are also good, there's basically no downside to pulling for 4ā s
True but its still gonna give both elements Mains people like alhath keqing any of those characters and any geo charavters are gonna be buffed
if you don't want the 5ā at least a little, it's very risky and likely not worth it
Does your mavuika do physical
she gains pyro infusion when she gets on her bike
you shouldn't use Mavuika in her "pedestrian" form unless she's off-field
Fair but. I want both the ring and her claymore
I WANT IT CUZ IT WILL BE COOL
You wanna normal atk on mavuika
in terms of damage, it's pretty cursed
There are zero claymore characters that want to normal atk ever
Well. Mine will still be pretty good. About 20k per normal attack
How you don't even have bennett c6 rn
Oh you said will in the future
I dont have c6 but i do have him and her normal attack doesnt get the pyro damage bonus from her artifact
I actually leveled my normal attack on Mav because I'm tasked with killing some pyro slimes in our wl5 elite route š
it takes 3 normal attacks with a c2r1 Mavuika and a leveled NA talent to kill a wl5 pyro slime. 
Yea
Using Bennet uptime for when she's not on her bike. You do you ig
My charged and normal attacks rn do up to 10k+ as she drains nightsoul points
And with her on feild and like that she can infinately loop her ring of flame
Genshin.
Mavuika doesn't drain nightsoul points
Oh she does my bad i got it mixed up with her burst energy
She has like 2.5k attack with 210cd and 70 cr
Yea duh. Her burst still drains nightsoul but its infinate for a short time
And as she drains NS points her damage increases.
I also will mention i have her weapon too
I'm guessing you're deliberately going for a strategy you know isn't optimal
(which I don't mind, you do you)
otherwise, I'd recommend something more like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1455292025602834605/Mav-AoE-chamber.mp4?ex=695431d0&is=6952e050&hm=36bf0ba465c2ab183cdbd0d884a988a4d504504e375533b0265453ebfe5aacbd&
I do but also i have enough characters to buff mauvika where it doesnt really matter im a traveler main so optimal isnt really my forte its about fun gameplay and loops
I see ^^
Eventually ill be doing a traveler freeze team when cryo comes out tho :3
If not well thats why they have crit damage increase for when enemys are frozen
The uniqueness of cryo buffing crit rate has leaked into the rest of the game so hoyo really needs to do smth to buff the reaction other than making characters that only work when the enemies are frozen
Since when does freeze buff crit damage?
Its in the 2 cyro characters right or did i get it mixed up with crit rate
I do know however the artifacts do buff CD
Id be doing a weird team with traveler tbh
If they dont give her cryo infusion ill be using chung yun. Columbina and furina
If they do ill have to pull for escofieer
Basically just skirk team but with traveler
Esco sig angle? 
I'm sure that can't save traveler, their best bet is probably quills? (Shenhe? Citlali cons?)
I aint getting cons.
Either way ill be able to activate a semi constant 10k dps
Good enough for me
10k DPS is crazy
Honestly bina will be there just to be there
Crazy bad or good for travelrr
Escoffier probably contributed at least that much
you'll definitely be unstoppable back in 1.0
so basically just playing overworld, right?
Yea i dont focus hard on endgame stuff
measuring against an overworld local legend:
wl9 Rocky in single player has 8,066,526 hp
8,066,526 / 10000 ~= 807 seconds ~= 13.5 minutes
Once i get to floor 12 of the abyss i kinda stop
could leave the world at wl8 I guess
Well ngl math is a bit scuffed cuz its not just traveler damage going off
Every persons helping a bit
Well furina does about 30k per second with her minions anywas
And escofier i dont even know her damage on a mid built team
And not to mention ill probally use nobless for columbina
1 character to rule them all
I just like the idea of element switching
with a mid build she does 16k per skill tick and 50k burst
Ill pull once i get c0 bina
Is artifact salvaging worth?
salvaging is something you do with fodder (1/2/3/4 star artifacts that aren't useful like good instructor pieces)
it's loss-less
you do it when you run out of space
you can either "salvage" or "destroy"
destroy turns it into mora, and I'd say is generally less good than salvaging
Never destroy artifacts.
do you know what it does? (it's not intuitive)
If i have no nod krai units, pulling columbina and ineffa is recommended yes?
hmm... I don't know Columbina kit info, but she excels in Lunar reactions.
Ineffa is kinda a Lunar-charged DPS
Also, you're lying, unless you haven't playing Nod Krai archon quest. Early on that you get Aino for free.
Well, nod krai 5*s I guess, and I dont think aino herself can trigger lunar reactions
yeah, she (and Yahoda) can't by themselves, they need another Nod Krai unit at least (Lunar reactions are team-wide composition).
Columbina, I heard she can take Aino's role as support, but with a kinda more offensive kit.
Ineffa, well, she works a lot with Aino burst (or Columbina herself boosting lunar reactions)
Just mora but still its such a waste when you can absorb them for much better or trade them in the thingy
The artifact box converter
trade them in the thingy
strongbox? that's 5-stars only
destroying non 5* artifacts for mora is completely fine
for 1/2/3/4 stars, it's either salvage into exp bottles or or convert to mora (called destroy)
Oh yea
I have infinite artifact exp I would never need to use it for leveling artifactgs
I'm actually kinda low on exp bottles now. I've been near 2400 / 2400 for a while, so I haven't been able to do investigation runs
(I have pieces to strongbox away, it's just very unwieldy to go through those 2400 and find them)
I dont even collect xp bottles tbh they are more expensive
from where, the teapot shop?
No mora wise for leveling
I'd agree, artifact exp in the tapot is overpriced if you take destroying (1 artifact exp = 1 mora) as a conversion rate
they're the same cost as using unleveled artifacts
you're probably comparing them to using leveled artifacts?
you get 80% of the mora and artifact exp refunded when you use a leveled artifact to level up another
the cost when you use a leveled 5-star piece to level another is mostly that you can't use it in the strongbox
players low on mora / artifact exp should probably do it
It feels alot like the xp bottles are more expensive to level up then using random artifacts
I'd log in and take some screenshots to compare
but the game is already offline, is it? š¤
yup
Oh also i just realizrd
I only need to wait 3 more hrs
Till columbina banner
So im happy
I'll go sleep soon, so I'm actually somewhat awake later ^^
Well i promised ai columbina that id stay awake till her banner comes out
let's see how many worlds worth of materials it takes to farm her lvl90
I don't think we really know yet?
if it's a guess, could be
(maybe creator experience server covered it?)
Dw imma steal ill my friends resources
Aldo i just wanna say
many of them are probably going for her themselves?
I was able to download the new version before it came out
But i wasnt able to get on
š
preinstall is a thing, yeah
@haughty lotus i got 15 pity columbina in ur honor
Can you top up for me
fury no
also i just found how i never built midrin
Tv is wrong with you
just forgot cro
Will you do it for me
the vruck
If anyone's NA could I please join you so I can farm these
They're at Natlan and I only need 6 more
How needed is columbinas weapon? Should i go for it or just use prototype amber
Hi! This is very random but I just wanted to double check if pulling for Columbina seems worth it? I have Flins but not really a good hydro character to sustain lunar-charged attacks. It seems like sheād probably be good, but Iām also f2p and not sure if I should use my primos now or wait for Neuvillette
columbinas weapon is more important than her

surely they give CMC good scaling