📌gimshim-help

[next flare]

BUT

[rugged sparrow]

they're functional but not good

[next flare]

alr better then i expected

[neon wave]

Well it's worse than aggravate
You can switch Xingqiu for Collei or DMC if you wanna play Xilo

[rugged sparrow]

^

[next flare]

which one is better yaoyao or collei?

thre both c1, lvl 40 and not built in ANYWAY

[rugged sparrow]

Yaoyao is mostly for healing which you lacked in the Sucrose setup

Collei is kinda ehhh for me personally, gets decent with const but if she's c1 I won't bother

[next flare]

well idh alot of options here-

wait i got 1 normal wish 😄 watch me pull a dendro dps rq

[rugged sparrow]

I'd just go for Yaoyao cuz she can 4p TotM
Collei needs c6 for that

[next flare]

if one exists

[next flare]

razor lang please

[neon wave]

Ngl they don't need much of a build to be functional
They're just there for dendro app
You can use Xilo Yaoyao too, Collei is a bit better but it's hardly much of a difference and you'll have a healer option if you wanna switch Xilo to another team in the future

[keen willow]

Is columbia good

[rugged sparrow]

Collei no c6 bad

[crude dirge]

no

[rugged sparrow]

she's as good as Varka

[keen willow]

What how

[next flare]

got it

[crude dirge]

cuz shes not good

[next flare]

how good is varka?....

[keen willow]

I bet varka is as good as diluc

[rugged sparrow]

we don't know

[next flare]

wait i get it now-

[crude dirge]

ehh id say as good as nicole

[next flare]

..

[rugged sparrow]

fr

[keen willow]

Nicole? From honkai impact?

[rugged sparrow]

Nicole from ZZZ 🗣️ 🔥

[keen willow]

Man do i need another hydro

[next flare]

nicole wallace

WAIT

THE ONE WISH

i got mona

[rugged sparrow]

[next flare]

shes pretty

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091441098829856949/1345364242001559582/togif.gif

[next flare]

wait is she not good or sum/..

[keen willow]

Shes incredible at c6 I've heard

[rugged sparrow]

no it's just u got a 5-star in one wish

[next flare]

...

[rugged sparrow]

and no Mona is very good now even baseline

[next flare]

lmao

[next flare]

yay

[crude dirge]

who

[keen willow]

Mona

[next flare]

alr so how do i FORCE her in my team :D.

[crude dirge]

skirk

[next flare]

even if her banner was on rn

[rugged sparrow]

u just run vape team rn with Mona Bennett Xiangling Sucrose
then you can run aggravate Keqing with Fischl Xilo Collei/Yaoyao

[next flare]

why would i want two fully built teams..

[rugged sparrow]

endgame unless u dont care ig

[next flare]

im lit stuck midgame

[rugged sparrow]

you can try like Keqing/Fischl/Yaoyao/Mona if you still insist on using Keqing

[neon wave]

Just build one
Then build the other

[next flare]

is there ANYWAY i could make my only 3 5 starts work

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-ryujinr-grey-cat-gif-13471549557469691566

[crude dirge]

so u dont get scared by hydro slime when running c6 neuvilette

[rugged sparrow]

balls

[neon wave]

Just because a char is good doesn't mean you stick them in a team they don't work in you'd just be nerfing yourself

[strange scarab]

Lady loki in rivals rahhh

[rugged sparrow]

depends on what you define as "work"
if for endgame content then no

[next flare]

its not im js tryna have fun

[rugged sparrow]

if you just want to clear daily domains / leylines then sure, whatever, the bar is set in hell

[next flare]

lmao

[rugged sparrow]

smash

wheres gokurakugai chapter this month btw

[neon wave]

tbf I wouldn't want to do domains with Keq Fischl Xilo Mona
but I suppose you could

[next flare]

[keen willow]

Just get arlecchino for domains

[next flare]

again my options are insanely limited

[neon wave]

You have functional teams

[next flare]

cant wait to see how my colombinas not gonno fit into my teams

[rugged sparrow]

it's not limited, you just choose not to use good teams
which is, fine, if you want to not care about endgame content

[neon wave]

same kek

[next flare]

i'll take that honestly

[keen willow]

I hope columbina works with my c6 chevruse that i just got

[next flare]

what should i focus on for mona?

[rugged sparrow]

a lot of ER

she wants to have her burst up everytime it's off cooldown

[next flare]

kk noted

[wind viper]

Wait what event do I get a free Xingqiu?

[crude dirge]

any free liyue character during lantern rite

[rugged sparrow]

^

[neon wave]

Which is next patch

well, 4 star character

[next flare]

is this the right set for mona?

[crude dirge]

more like for bennett or mona support

[next flare]

is that a yes...?

[rugged sparrow]

Noblesse is fine yeah
Tenacity of the Millelith (TotM) is also an option

[next flare]

which one suits my needs more?

[rugged sparrow]

usually used in conjunction since 2 Noblesse users don't stack

[next flare]

im gon run her with electro ;-;

[rugged sparrow]

it depends™ on what team you're running

like full team

if there's another Noblesse user already, she'll likely get relegated to TotM duty

[next flare]

alr prolly keqing, fischl or someone else, mona, and xilonen

[rugged sparrow]

just 4p Noblesse, then

[next flare]

kk

so noblesse artifacts with my main goal being er

[rugged sparrow]

pretty much yes

crit is also welcome too but not a huge focus in her support-oriented build

[next flare]

kk\

[lyric cargo]

I'd consider pulling on Varesa and trying to get Chevreuse + Iansan

if you get an early Varesa, I'd call that a win. Otherwise you can run Chevreuse Bennett Iansan Fischl for now

it's a very beginner-friendly banner

[crude dirge]

the snapshot team

with 40k per hit fischl

[lyric cargo]

there's Columbina coming up, but this'll give you a decent team immediately
and getting an early Varesa won't rule out getting Columbina
depending on how early you get her, and how many wishes you have

[viral mulch]

if they summon the flies i go to hell

sound warning cus its cicin mages

[rugged sparrow]

watch 1 randomly just tp to spite u and instant shield + flies anim

[viral mulch]

that happens if theyre left idle for like 0.025s

[delicate ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-skill-issue-diagnosis-skill-issue-draker-discord-gif-22231351

[pine magnet]

Are those ever worth?

[rugged sparrow]

if you need the mora yes

[lyric cargo]

the default would be no
mora is lower value resource compared to artifacts
it can be obtained entirely without spending resin

but that is time intensive, so depending on the player it.. might be?

look into the easiest ways to get mora without spending resin, though

the teapot shop has some amount every week

weekly city reputation quests in regions before Natlan give mora, but they capped that in 5.0:
We can no longer do them once city reputation reaches the max

exploration gives some mora

I'm sure there are other sources I'm forgetting

the last thing you can resort to are co-op elite runs
but that's a very sweaty activity
you can get like 250k mora in 1h 30m doing those, up to once a day

[crude dirge]

cant u get more from deleting stuff from inventory like low artifact scrap u get in the world?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, 1- to 4-star artifacts you don't need can be either destroyed (trashcan icon in artifact inventory) to convert them to mora
or "salvaged" to turn them into exp bottles

salvage is usually more worthwhile

I used to do a lot of destroying until they added salvage

(bad 5-stars are better used as fodder for the strongbox)

[cobalt sigil]

Why does the KeqingMains spreadsheet say "to the requirement" and then not say what the requirement is

What is Kaz's EM req?

c0

[haughty lotus]

EM or ER? He doesn’t have a requirement for EM. For ER it depends on the team, sometimes KQM guides have a table with common team options showing roughly how much a character needs, otherwise there’s an energy recharge calculator in the pins

[cobalt sigil]

ER

Also trying to find the same shit other chars and mixed them up

[haughty lotus]

His guide has an er table

[cobalt sigil]

It just says "priotize ER until you hit the requirements" in big black letters

[quaint fern]

https://keqingmains.com/kazuha/#Energy_Recharge

[opal surge]

ER requirement differs per team played and its impossible to say in general

there is a ER calculator in the pins

[fast python]

Heyy someone can help me find 6 Anemoculus?

[lyric cargo]

if you didn't use an interactive map to keep track of which ones you're missing, it might just be "craft resonance stones or re-check all of them"

[fast python]

What is a craft resonance stone?

Sorry it was a while ago since I last played

[lyric cargo]

this one:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Anemoculus_Resonance_Stone

[fast python]

Thanks

[feral reef]

i got literally no idea what to do with durin what are some team ideas for him 🥀

[haughty lotus]

Ur mom

[soft socket]

is the tiger lady good with father? (i pulled her since i see her a lot on dmg flex vids)

[lethal tundra]

y'all does genshin pc have like delete past resource

[marsh adder]

xilonen?

yeah she goes really well with arlecchino

my current best party is Arlecchino, Xilonen, Bennet, Xingqiu

[cobalt sigil]

No, it does not. That was only rolled out for Mobile users

We're shit outta luck

[marsh adder]

maybe like

Varesa, Xilonen, Durin, iansan

some good buffs with overload

maybe kinich burn

[feral reef]

alice?

[maiden kayak]

who is the 4 stars in upcoming banner?

aside from illuga

[cedar flint]

We don’t know

[keen willow]

Who tf is illuga

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus son

[marsh adder]

the other lighthouse keeper i think

hes a commander or sum

[keen willow]

Other?? Who's the first one im so lost

[marsh adder]

yknow how flins was talkin bout illuga during luna 3?

thats the other lighthouse keeper

https://tenor.com/view/illuga-genshin-impact-please-upload-my-gif-dog-eyes-closed-gif-17014105958622104436

so we got

columbina, ineffa, illuga, zibai

and then neuvi

anddd i forgot

[winged heart]

Hey, anyone have Wanderer's bday mail?

I don't have it. His birthday is today, right?

[hazy lotus]

yeah i got it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400194977707069534/1456919401591865425/IMG_5141.png?ex=695ac62d&is=695974ad&hm=481080c09e09b471b5f089641c15a68b50299a7bea7681198cda218608150050&

[lyric cargo]

Xilo can slot into the vape and melt teams. It depends on your account a bit.

If you have Mavuika, I'd rather play the melt team with her and put Arle on an overload team (Durin, Fischl, Chevreuse)

If you have Varesa, I'd rather play the overload team with her and play Arle vape/melt

[lyric cargo]

res shredder for AGED and pyro. so:

• any anemo dps (Varka?)
• geo dps (who? Navia is kinda dated)
• electro/ pyro dps (chevreuse teams)
• electro/dendro dps (Kinich, or teams that maintain electro + quicken aura but that requires a ton of electro app)

[crude dirge]

kinich is obviously a spread dps

[lyric cargo]

want me to make a 5th category just for him, when he fits into dendro? 😅

the first is burning team (Kinich), the second is quicken + overload

I kinda wish Tighnari + Fischl + Durin worked there, but I haven't seen anyone use it (and I don't have Durin, so can't try)

[crude dirge]

overburn 🔥

[cobalt sigil]

Any tips on getting a floor 12 clear? I've never been able to do it

Not this one, I'm just giving up cuz I don't have a single plunge unit other than a 70'd gaming

[crude dirge]

look up guides and what general teams people use

[lyric cargo]

overburn is what you'd get if you don't have that very high electro app
losing spread on someone like Tighnari basically means you're better off benching the carry and playing a chevreuse team I think

[crude dirge]

or get a mavuika team

[lyric cargo]

maybe this can help (I have not fully watched it)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uRliOrkRpDU

[crude dirge]

mavuika and skirk premium teams can bruteforce close to anything

[cobalt sigil]

I have one, she's c1r1 💀

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071566383705509949/1390525011823169556/togif.gif

[cobalt sigil]

Those are my two teams and I can't force it

I have Mav c1r1 and Skirk but no Escoffier

and no Citlali but I've been using Mav with Furina

[crude dirge]

give skirk her furina back

for mavuika u can use rosaria

[cobalt sigil]

Gotta build Rosa then 💀

[crude dirge]

why build

her damage either way is small

[cobalt sigil]

Support, as well as extra crit rate so I can put more CDamage on my Mav

[lyric cargo]

Skirk should be able to do second half. You can freeze the weasels and hopefully bypass the shields

the shield doesn't make them unkillable without plunge, it just doubles their hp

[crude dirge]

just give her enough to burst for cryo application and maybe a support set like instructor

[cobalt sigil]

Literally have 2 instructor pieces

[crude dirge]

get more then

[cobalt sigil]

I know she can but I can't do it fast enough to clear it

[lyric cargo]

I cleared first half with c2r1 Mav like this. maybe c1r1 can do the same
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1455292025602834605/Mav-AoE-chamber.mp4?ex=695431d0&is=6952e050&hm=36bf0ba465c2ab183cdbd0d884a988a4d504504e375533b0265453ebfe5aacbd&

[cobalt sigil]

Damn, I should use Benentt again

[crude dirge]

'again'?

u should always use him

[cobalt sigil]

It's a long story of struggling for viable team comps

I switched him for Kaz a while back, then for Durin just recently

My other team needed him more

(Raiden Shogun Burst DPS 💀)

Last time I even attempted a Floor 12 clear was before I had Skirk

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091441098829856949/1345364242001559582/togif.gif

[cobalt sigil]

It was that bad

I literally only have Pyro units

*had

and a mid Raiden build that's still mid asf

[lyric cargo]

I haven't been able to usefully clear content with my c0 Raiden dps in a while

[cobalt sigil]

I have been a little bit but defo not floor 12

I also don't have a Furina driver on my Skirk team, I just remembered

XQ healing isn't enough

[lyric cargo]

no a Escoffier? that's rough

[cobalt sigil]

No Esco

I've been using Shenhe

[lyric cargo]

always try to get the signature support, it's more important than the on-fielder tbh

[cobalt sigil]

Escoffier came out first and I don't like her

[crude dirge]

i think we will get esco rerun soon

[lyric cargo]

I'd have skipped Skirk in that case

[cobalt sigil]

I was gonna

I got her at 10 pity

I threw my Tartaglia off of the highest building I could find and did a ten pull as a joke and won

[lyric cargo]

ah, what were the 4★s?
it's defensible to risk the 5★ if you'll get her full team later

[crude dirge]

havent gotten five star at under 75 pity in a while

[cobalt sigil]

Dahlia, something and something

I don't pull for 4*s though

After the incident

We don't talk about the incident

[crude dirge]

can the incident please happen to me some day

[lyric cargo]

another one I have not watched (but might help):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCxX2n7gobo

[cobalt sigil]

Was pulling for Freminet cons and I got c1 Arle at 40 pity after being the only person in my large friend group to not like her and not want her

I also got her weapon later trying to pull for Clorinde c1r1

I fucking hate her with a passion

[lyric cargo]

here's a Skirk clear without Esco:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uINMWrDIQJw

[cobalt sigil]

No Citlali and my Rosa is level 20 still

Also wtf is that Mualani team

Lunar-Burgeon????

[lyric cargo]

idk if Cit is important here

[cobalt sigil]

Also Rosa's being used on first half

cuz no Citlali for Mav

[lyric cargo]

it's likely burning
12-1-1 is multiwave, so Nahida doesn't work well

might be a hidden Mavuika carry team tbh

[cobalt sigil]

Lmaoooo

Just Mualani m1 and then Mav burst

I might just stick a Xianyun into my second half team and make a scuffed, not real plunge team at this point, I just wanna make it work

I don't have the primos or the spoons to build Varesa

[lyric cargo]

what I'd pay attention to is the freezing to prevent the shield

but it's likely going to be a bit rough, I expect their Skirk is very well built for being able to clear anything without Escoffier

[soft socket]

Im currently using Arle, benny, xingqiu, and Xilo. Is there any tips for rotation and things i have to note when using this team?

[lyric cargo]

Xy is good for weasels, yeah

I cleared second half with Nefer Lauma Aino Xianyun, but the chamber 3 boss was annoying

[cobalt sigil]

Just means I have to do that fuckass multiwave 80 times in lag

cuz my Venti isn't fully built yet

[lyric cargo]

this might be a question for other people, as I don't have Arle

[lyric cargo]

I didn't need Venti for first half, as they spawn grouped

[cobalt sigil]

Arle E, Xilonen E, XQ burst then E, Bennet Q then E, Arle Charged

Had a friend who used this exact team a while back

[crude dirge]

why bennet Q E and not E Q?

[cobalt sigil]

Use your energy before trying to get back energy

[crude dirge]

ur wasting time

waiting for particles to come

[soft socket]

@lyric cargo thanks a lot. Also @cobalt sigil this is noted, ill try this rotation

[crude dirge]

also thats not how it works

[cobalt sigil]

That's the definition on how that works

Literally in the tutorials

[crude dirge]

particles come fast enough for bennet to get the energy

[cobalt sigil]

But if your meter is full, then the energy goes to waste

[crude dirge]

bennet uses up his energy instantly

[crude dirge]

energy comes as particles and then not instantly comes to ur character, it takes like 1-2 seconds for energy to come

[soft socket]

@crude dirge in this case, do you have a suggestion regarding the rotation that tseru provided earlier?

[crude dirge]

just do bennet E Q instead of Q E

[lyric cargo]

Xilo needs to N2 after E to activate her buffs

Bennett can EQ rather than QE, and catch his particles during his burst animation

Xq EQ before Bennett, because of uptime

Arle likes short rotations, so Xq might want to be used early in first rotation and late in second rotation since his skill and burst cooldowns are long (?) not sure.

[cobalt sigil]

I need an adult

I don't have the time or the crayons to explain

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091441098829856949/1345364242001559582/togif.gif

[soft socket]

Dw, ill try to do ur suggestions both and ill let yall know which works for me the best (tom, i still have work)

[lyric cargo]

particles take a little while to get to you, so if you have burst up you can EQ

[crude dirge]

already said that

[soft socket]

Thanks for yalls insights (3 good fellow travelers)

[forest venture]

wandering waves

[lyric cargo]

I have you ignored because I don't like the images you keep posting. so I see messages when I get time to tap on them, after I'm done writing my own 😅

[forest venture]

is the house on fire

[crude dirge]

yes

[lyric cargo]

I still read every message, I just like the ability to hide the memes and not have them permanently on my screen

[cobalt sigil]

Based

Would Layla work over Rosaria?

[crude dirge]

no

rosaria is used for cryo application cuz she has the same as citlali

[cobalt sigil]

Is there a way to check that?

I usually just listen to what people say

[crude dirge]

check wiki for application timing/units

or wait was it rosaria with same application

[lyric cargo]

I mostly watch content creators and someone will mention app frequency now and then 🤷

Esco, Rosaria, Citlali should have the same application frequency

[cobalt sigil]

I can't tell

The wiki article is kinda buns

Also what artifacts do I put her on? Bennett's holding Noblesse, Xilonen's holding Scroll and I don't have enough Instructor pieces to make a four piece set or level them

[crude dirge]

the main things

[lyric cargo]

what's the team?

[cobalt sigil]

Mavuika, Bennett, Xilonen, Rosaria

[lyric cargo]

ah, first half I see

[cobalt sigil]

Yup

Gave my Skirk Furina with no driver

She's c1 so it's not so bad but it's still p bad

[lyric cargo]

emblem can work I guess

[cobalt sigil]

Back to the mines I go

[lyric cargo]

you might need xq's higher hydro app to maintain freeze on the weasels (not sure)

[lyric cargo]

nah, only if you got it

[cobalt sigil]

Not without stealing from other builds

[cobalt sigil]

and the team there is Furina, XQ, Shenhe, Skirk

[crude dirge]

maybe replace shenhe with ttds charlotte with song of days past?

[lyric cargo]

I'd do that, and make a note to return the artifacts later

kinda sucks we don't have loadouts, but it is what it is

it's not like Rosa's damage is important if you don't have her talents leveled, though
I assume this is just lvl70 for theater char count

[cobalt sigil]

Not enough Song of Days past pieces to make a 4 piece set and both Charlotte and Rosa are level 20

Shenhe's built fully

[crude dirge]

furina without healer is mehh

[lyric cargo]

Mav without Cit suffers a bit, it might not be better than overload or vape

though overload can degroup enemies, and vape doesn't have AoE application

[cobalt sigil]

It's that or nothing

My builds are so cope

[lyric cargo]

Shenhe < Charlotte / Mika, maybe, if you don't have a healer otherwise

[cobalt sigil]

Neither are built

[marble plume]

what would my best neuvillette team be?

[cobalt sigil]

I actually don't know

Gimme a sec

[marble plume]

i've been wanting to build him for ages but i just have NO clue what team to do lmao...

[cobalt sigil]

He wants to be in Mono-Hydro with Furina and Xilonen, as far as I know

I don't have him but I know about his premium teams

[crude dirge]

neuv kazuha kachina(scroll) and a healer with song of days past

maybe jean with song of days past

[cobalt sigil]

Yeah, I didn't see that at all

[marble plume]

thank you so much, i'll get to building them all then

[marble plume]

i need so many more five stars, i've missed so many banners since i've just got into genshin again

[cobalt sigil]

You could try for Xilonen with the week left on her banner, she's an excellent healer and buffer

[haughty lotus]

Jean isn’t good there, especially with kazuha already in the team. Someone like fischl is a good flex slot. Also don’t invest too much into kachina past getting her 4pc scroll

[cobalt sigil]

Give her 3 defense pieces on scroll, and the Natlan craftable and she's great

[marble plume]

thank you for that, do i wanna level her talents or just for the set?

[cobalt sigil]

Good for lots of teams and it's really easy to just slot her in cuz she doesn't mess with reactions

[haughty lotus]

Just the set

[marble plume]

oh i didn't even know that

[cobalt sigil]

Yep! She's Geo so she isn't going to steal a vape or a melt

Doesn't matter for Neuvi in Mono-Hydro but great for something like Varesa

[crude dirge]

hows jean not good here

what else do u use

[haughty lotus]

Losing a stack for Neuv and why do you need healing anyways

[crude dirge]

so she buffs

and the team doesnt die

[haughty lotus]

With just a mid artifact set

[crude dirge]

GIVE AN ALTERNATIVE THEN

[haughty lotus]

I did, fischl

[cobalt sigil]

They did

[crude dirge]

fischl doesnt buff neuv in any way and her damage there wouldnt be that good

[marble plume]

i'm building these teams for spiral abyss, i can only clear floor 10 (just btw)

[cobalt sigil]

Switch Jean for Sucrose and they would

[crude dirge]

then team dies

the only heal is neuvilette self heal

[cobalt sigil]

Prototype Amber Neuvillette 💀

[haughty lotus]

It’s neuvillette he heals himself, the others are barely onfield

[crude dirge]

why

[cobalt sigil]

Is that not the craftable that self-heals?

[crude dirge]

barely on field is enough to die

[marble plume]

these are my teams so far (three for more variety + idk if they're good or not)

[crude dirge]

there are better options i think

[cobalt sigil]

What?

[crude dirge]

maybe a widsith

[haughty lotus]

Cro stop

[haughty lotus]

Looks good. Focus on the 1st and 3rd mainly, the second one isn’t too good

[crude dirge]

why is there kazuha on xiao team

[cobalt sigil]

I didn't see that, why is there a Kaz there?

[marble plume]

i'm honestly not sure, he just seemed to work well for crowding and getting them together for me to kill them

[cobalt sigil]

Faruzan does that too

[marble plume]

i'm not very good at building teams

[cobalt sigil]

You're good! That's why we're here

[marble plume]

hense why i'm here

[lyric cargo]

hmm, no Furina 🤔
also no Lauma / Ineffa / Xilonen
you do have Kazuha

options after limited, maybe Aino for hydro particles + fav or Mona + Fischl for hexerei buffs (but Fischl's buff will only benefit herself in that team)

[haughty lotus]

You can put a crit Kazuha there and it makes some sense

But yeah I just wouldn’t play xiao if you don’t have the supports like xianyun and Furina as well

[cobalt sigil]

Maybe not play Xiao until Xianyun reruns

Also, what con is your Faruzan

[marble plume]

alright then! i had him C1 so i just really wanted to use him lmao

uh let me see

only C2

[crude dirge]

mine is c0

[cobalt sigil]

I got lucky in my Venti pulls and have the c6, it's so worth

[marble plume]

damn thats crazy...

i'm so confused about how some of my characters do good damage with bad builds (mainly my varesa)

[cobalt sigil]

Power creep

[marble plume]

ohh true that

[cobalt sigil]

Speaking of Venti, any artifact recommendations? I have him on 4pcs Desert Pavilion but it feels kinda cope to have to charged attack in the middle of my rotation

[neon wave]

Build guide in pins has options
You don't need to fully charge the shot to activate DPC btw

[cobalt sigil]

Deadass?

[neon wave]

Yeah, just need to enter aiming mode briefly for the hit to count as a charged attack, then you can move on to the normal combo

[haughty lotus]

There’s a new artifact set for hexerei characters coming next version so probably that. There’s also vv if he’s not the main carry

[cobalt sigil]

He is, did that get announced?

[haughty lotus]

This is from the livestream. Idk if we know the effect of it tho

[neon wave]

yeah, CN showed

[haughty lotus]

[cobalt sigil]

More Razor buffs

This is absurd

[strange scarab]

Is so that

[quaint fern]

wait that's crazy

the crit rate is sustained even when off field

[forest venture]

lunar blooming

[cobalt sigil]

What do people recommend for Mualani teams?

I'm fucking with Pyro application, PMC's lasts for about 5.5 seconds, Durin doesn't buff until c2, I fucking hate solo-pyro xiangling

[lyric cargo]

Mua, Mona, Sucrose, PMC

there's Mavuika, but Mav main dps could be your second team
her contribution in Mua teams isn't that much better than PMC that it's worth locking away Mav main dps, afaik

[lyric cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RNe_qdtX-q4

[lyric cargo]

also, it seems it doesn't require witch resonance?
that's a major win for theater, having your char not suck even more when you can't assemble the right team

compare that to the lunar sets
I had trouble getting a loaned c3 Flins to clear, when I didn't have a second NK char left to use with him

[cobalt sigil]

I can't wait to build Mona and jump into VV

(this is a lie)

[lyric cargo]

afaik, Mona + Sucrose is just the default for Mua now

it's ahead of other options by enough

though I don't know how mona constellations affect that

I might've seen calcs for Mona c2 rather than c0

[cobalt sigil]

And yeah, Mav is on other teams and it on a DPS set but I hate how short PMC's skill lasts

[lyric cargo]

afaik, Mua's damage window is not that long either?

bite, bite, bite or bite, bite, burst?

you don't even use 3 bites when you use burst? 🤔
I think I heard that mentioned, I might be hallucinating

[cobalt sigil]

Yeah, no

You right

So I have so much to farm 😭

I gotta farm the Oceanid and the Cryo Regisvine and Noblesse and Emblem

To even start getting two abyss teams

and I'm still prefarming 😭

[crude dirge]

why are u in such rush for abyss teams

[cobalt sigil]

cuz I've been playing this game for 4/5 years and I don't have a floor 12 clear

[crude dirge]

im ar 60 i still cant do 36 stars

[forest venture]

reset's on next week friday so you should have ample amount of time
but if i were you i recommend very good aoe dps with fast pyro application and a plunger for this abyss rotation

[rugged sparrow]

Mua isn't even that good for this abyss

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?
also note which are built?

[cobalt sigil]

I can

I have every 4* but most aren't built/built well

cuz I have zero fodder atm

Gimme a bit cuz I'm farming the wrong boss like an idiot

Cursed but it works

If I have a limited 5*, it usually means that they're built to some degree

[rugged sparrow]

Durin Venti is basically pretty chill for 1st half

[cobalt sigil]

My Venti is still being worked on

Just need to level his artifacts and get his normals up but I have no fodder

[rugged sparrow]

honestly can just run 4p VV and run an on-fielder

smth like Durin Venti Bennett Arle

it'll probably clear just fine with ample time for 2nd half

[cobalt sigil]

Venti is the on fielder

He's c0r1

and I'm not using Arle

[rugged sparrow]

ok

[cobalt sigil]

Hate her guts

[rugged sparrow]

c1

interesting

[cobalt sigil]

I don't like her and didn't want her, it's why I don't pull for 4*s

I wanted Freminet and I got a double at 40

[rugged sparrow]

I mean if u dont like someone u wouldn't have them in ur acc, much less a c1 but maybe that's just me

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pA5b-3ukKw
https://qiqis-notebook.com/route/68ef6a14316ee797d311a5f3

10 minute daily route with ~20k mora

[cobalt sigil]

It's not like I can just return her

[hazy lotus]

wish i had that kind of luck when i was pulling for her c6

[cobalt sigil]

I didn't want any of her!

I wanted nothing!

Same with Tartaglia

[neon wave]

then why pull in the first place

she'd definitely help with the clear

[cobalt sigil]

I wanted Freminet cons

This is the reason I don't pull for 4*s anymore

[neon wave]

ic
I'll take her off your hands

[cobalt sigil]

Please

I'd pay to get her and Tartaglia off of my account

[ruby canopy]

How is my navia? I need recommendations on her

[rugged sparrow]

artifact can definitely be improved (all of them)

goblet is a-ok ig but only 6 useful subs for an off-set is kinda w/e

[ruby canopy]

Ok thanks for the tip

[rugged sparrow]

talent also needs some work if you on-field her, NA is high priority

[crude dirge]

definetely reroll the sands

4 liner double crit er

[elder bluff]

gacha every e with 62% rate

[limpid lily]

i need help with boss 727128672

[cedar flint]

Low crit rate

[lyric cargo]

the circlet just having ER and nothing else hurts

your akasha seems to be set to display cv instead of roll value? I think that might lead to underestimating other stats

[cedar flint]

Didn’t even noticed how bad the circlet was yikes

[lyric cargo]

if you were otherwise done, I'd say consider crafting a circlet with cr + atk% substats
you could consider rerolling the sands, although you'd rather roll cr/cd than er

but maybe continue strongboxing for a better flower and plume before crafting / rerolling

current flower / plume have 5 useful substat rolls each
I'd aim for 7 or more, maybe

here's mine, the 1000 suns build is kinda fake (Mavuika would never give it away unless it's for a theater without pyro

I don't use her much at all, tbh. Kinda regret pulling her
I imagined she'd be meta relevant for a while when I got her, but she wasn't really by the time I got to strongbox her set

[cedar flint]

she just never was relevant

should’ve went harder with her multipliers

or proper support

Or geo rework cough cough

[lyric cargo]

I heard a decent amount of endorsement
about how she can frontload her damage and steal skill charges from future rotations
but I guess that needs to be put into context

maybe it makes her stronger than she'd otherwise be, but not that strong

I also don't like giving her Bennett and Mav's sig when Mav could use both of them better

[cedar flint]

I will try her again with durin when I get him

[lyric cargo]

same, I plan on getting Durin still

[cedar flint]

ye I want him for overload and stuff

[lyric cargo]

though my hopes for Navia are lower than for my c6 Tighnari tbh

unless lunar crystallize comes out of nowhere and revives her somehow 🤣

[cedar flint]

tighnari has higher chances to become good tbh

geo is just forgotten and the new lunar crystalize probably won’t help

[lyric cargo]

yeah, let's be real they'll find a way to only make it useful as a direct reaction

like lunar charged and lunar bloom

[cedar flint]

funniest option is if lunar crystalize won’t build Navia bullets

[lyric cargo]

I'll take any upgrade from making a geo shard, tbh

[cedar flint]

so can’t even use her as a meme with zibai and bina

[lyric cargo]

watch it not, and she becomes an off-field burst dps instead

using skill mostly for particle generation, because 0 charges

[cedar flint]

pulling c4 for geo shred off field support

eh I will try her with durin and call it a day

bina ineffa can carry mizuki instead

[lyric cargo]

if the Mizuki team ends up better than Navia, it's truly over

[cedar flint]

ngl probably running bina ineffa with navia would just still be better than running a normal navia team im afraid

ineffa is bonkers with aino so I’m afraid a archon level hydro character would actually make her go ballistic

[lyric cargo]

tbh, I don't foresee myself taking Bina off my Nefer team unless stygian has two unlar-shill bosses and I need to make two lunar teams

just based on likely being an upgrade over Aino

[cedar flint]

I’m pulling bina for ineffa pretty much

I have no other motives

[lyric cargo]

I'm still considering to get Ineffa, but not sure how useful she'll actually be

alternatively I could get Varesa

[cedar flint]

Mizuki can look pretty on field while the girls do the work

[lyric cargo]

or I could save in case the first skirk rerun has a good banner

downside is skirk would bench my Neuvilette by taking Furina

[cedar flint]

let the old man rest

he carried you long enough

besides you probably would still use him for hydro shill

[lyric cargo]

yeah, and AoE

if the banners were in another order, I might have considered getting his sig

[cedar flint]

I would prefer ineffa to be phase 2 but if I get lucky with bina and win 50/50 that weapon banner will go bonkers for me

I either get ineffa weapon or bina or standard

[lyric cargo]

or possibly both?

[cedar flint]

Preferably not the 3rd option

I would be actually upset

[lyric cargo]

Ineffa sig has lower value for me, I think
as I already have SoSS

[cedar flint]

well still gotta get bina first if I lose the 50/50 yikes I can forget about the weapon banner

[cedar flint]

We need the pizza cutter for our lil robot

how would she cook pizza otherwise

[lyric cargo]

Escoffier sig, obviously

isn't that the premier cooking weapon?

[cedar flint]

would be a waste on her

[lyric cargo]

it would

[cedar flint]

Wouldn’t mind getting like 4 forks ngl

[lyric cargo]

"how many favs forks does one collect before one starts refining them"

[cedar flint]

idk but 4-5 is a good starting point

[lyric cargo]

well, realistically 3? one per team?

[cedar flint]

3 is the cheap route

[lyric cargo]

unless you want to avoid swapping weapons enough that you pull extra 5-stars ^^

[cedar flint]

if you don’t want to swap you go for more

Fork would save my iansan build

[lyric cargo]

damn, that's a lot of crit rate

not atk% circlet?

[cedar flint]

I’m honestly only missing 22.5 attack or something

from her burst

and that’s only for the last 5 seconds of her burst cus weapon give for 10

so I don’t mind

I prefer the funny 77k burst dmg

[lyric cargo]

is that c0, btw?

[cedar flint]

no

[lyric cargo]

skills and cons both look faded, so I'm not sure

must be the custom image?

[cedar flint]

idk why they’re faded tho but they won’t be purple if I didn’t have them

[lyric cargo]

ah

[cedar flint]

maybe they make them fade now for custom images

I wonder if I can turn that off

[lyric cargo]

still working on my custom buildcards

(ignore the stat sum, it only includes base stats so far)

[cedar flint]

does it use the game info

or you have to build the artifacts yourself

[lyric cargo]

it's based on data exported with Irminsul

chev isn't really build, I should strongbox more noblesse

[cedar flint]

noblesse nice

[lyric cargo]

I avoided farming SoDP

maybe I'll yet have to do it

if it's a Varesa team.. Iansan scroll, Chev nob, and Durin likely runs the new set right?

[cedar flint]

ye I prefer songs of days past tho

[lyric cargo]

this ^

[cedar flint]

Oh they reveled the new sets

[cedar flint]

You can always strongbox it

[lyric cargo]

ngl, I expected sets like Noblesse / SoDP / Instructor to completely fall off when I saw scroll revealed in Natlan

I thought "this is the new standard for artifact sets, they'll stick to this power level from now on"

[cedar flint]

Well you can only use one scroll your other supports still need a set

[cedar flint]

oh in that sense lol

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I expected more sets with that power level to come out

and it was kinda true, silken moon's serenade is basically better instructor

but it replaced scroll instead

[cedar flint]

well instructor was a 4* set it badly needed a upgrade

[lyric cargo]

since lunar teams don't care about dmg%

[lyric cargo]

yeh
though it's on a level with noblesse and SoDP I think?
often it's even the better option

[cedar flint]

only downside is hell to farm and 4*

I will need to farm the new domain for Klee

they’re not adding varesa set to storngbox yet right?

[lyric cargo]

I haven't heard anything, but I didn't watch the livestream

[cedar flint]

I didn’t know it was earlier than the usual time so I missed some of it

[lyric cargo]

maybe I'd have to consider farming the domain instead, if I had Varesa and was considering to get skirk

[cedar flint]

that domain is great for me cus I got both

[lyric cargo]

I'd also have to farm this, though

[cedar flint]

tho farming for a varesa upgrade at my point is more of a cope

[lyric cargo]

my Codex is pretty good, if I can make use of the insane amount of ER the circlet gives me 😅

[cedar flint]

at this point I’m coping

[lyric cargo]

CR goal here is 40.8% I believe
as Varesa ascends with CR, so she should have +19.2% compared to Heizou
and then 40% crom 4pc codex

more options. just singled that one out because of the circlet

[cedar flint]

are you planning to pull her

[lyric cargo]

I'd have been happy with getting her early, going for Iansan c6

ended up not getting her, now I've got to decide

[cedar flint]

I have a crit rate circlet and just cus of sig im almost at the same crit dmg as u kind funny

[lyric cargo]

I'm waiting for the last bit of info (4-stars on the next banners)

I'm considering to pull on the weapon banner for copies of fav lance, fav sword, fruitful hook
if I get an early Varesa sig, I could maybe justify still getting her

[cedar flint]

Tho my varesa is totally over capping on crit rate

The 4 star lineup is juicy

[lyric cargo]

63 char pity
0 weapon pity
250? wishes

I could justify either Varesa or Ineffa, or just save it all after Bina

[cedar flint]

best I can say is follow your heart

I did and I couldn’t be happier

[lyric cargo]

my Mav has her own team, so it'd be with Durin
one concern I have is Varka might take him

[cedar flint]

pyro mc works too

[lyric cargo]

but that might still be fine, unless I run these exact teams:

• Mav melt
• Varka
• Varesa

[cedar flint]

I will replace Mav with durin tho

[lyric cargo]

only with those 3 teams would I not have Mav / Durin available

[cedar flint]

and pyro mc can hold like tenacity

[lyric cargo]

I have a tenacity pmc build with full EM and xiphos..
isn't their uptime kinda short?

[cedar flint]

if you burst it’s fine

[lyric cargo]

someone was talking about that earlier

[cedar flint]

and well with cons ofc

[lyric cargo]

ah
tbh, I haven't read PMC's kit in a minute

[cedar flint]

I think it’s like 12 sec max

which is generally enough

[lyric cargo]

@cobalt sigil ^

[lyric cargo]

it seems we need to re-read PMC talents^

[cobalt sigil]

It's not written, that's the drain speed of their nightsoul, I counted

I activated it and I timed it

Rude

[opal surge]

skill gives 42 burst gives 28

c2 gives 14/28

[lyric cargo]

do you have c6?

well

[cobalt sigil]

Yes, the good c6

[lyric cargo]

I should rephrase that

they made it so you "start" with c6
but those cons only have effects against the weekly boss

until you actually unlock the real effects

[cobalt sigil]

Yup! I have the actual c6

[crude dirge]

doesnt 'the good c6' mean its real

[cobalt sigil]

The one that gives the pyro infusion during their skill

[crude dirge]

infustion

[cobalt sigil]

Fuq man, idfc

If you can read it, it doesn't matter

[half anchor]

how much of a dmg boost is c2 skirk from c0

[viral mulch]

this much

[narrow folio]

That's a pretty good amount

[lyric cargo]

the genshinbuilds sheet and kqm article don't link a constallation calc sheet
I'd look for a recent video on the char, from a good content creator (make sure the team hasn't changed since it came out)
or ask someone who does tc, like Sensi

the combo might've changed since then, but that only matters if you're actually doing the updated combo

there was this video on the new combo, but I don't think it had dmg calcs for it that take c2 into account
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50ARAuRb9h4

looking further back, this looks promising (might have constellation calcs)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YjE3QGWQiGo

[pine magnet]

Any reason to keep Acquant Fates and not roll in Standard Banner? (I stopped playing back in 2021 and came back a few days ago)

[lyric cargo]

sometimes, chars get added to the banner. the game version after they're released

the difference in odds is pretty tiny, as there are so many chars on the banner

but technically, if a char you want is getting added in a few days then I'd wait

this version added Jahoda, so she should be added when the next game version comes out

[lyric cargo]

but generally I use them immediately

and idk if Jahoda is that great of a char to wait for

[pine magnet]

I think I should do the same as my Acc is poor.

[drowsy shuttle]

who knows any flins and columbina team comps?

[lyric cargo]

Hmm, it's a bit early so I'd ask again once she's out (or when creator early access footage is available)

but for a general idea I'd take current Flins teams and replace Aino with Bina

[drowsy shuttle]

thanks

[lyric cargo]

three main one being:
Flins, Ineffa, Aino, Sucrose

[drowsy shuttle]

also, since im f2p and a bit restricted, do you suggest me going for the weapon or ineffa

curretnly hae 50 pulls

9 pity guaranteed

[lyric cargo]

Ineffa is likely more important than Flins

[drowsy shuttle]

wdym than flins?

[lyric cargo]

you can play a lunar bloom team with just Ineffa Aino, and it'll do decently

but Flins teams without Ineffa just aren't that good

[drowsy shuttle]

my bad , i forgot to say some things before

my current team is flins, aino, sucrose , fischl

i currently dont have ineffa

[lyric cargo]

it's a general trend, the signature support can be viable without the carry but the other way around is a bit rough

[drowsy shuttle]

wondering whether i should test my luck getting both columbina and ineffa

or just columbina and her weapon

[lyric cargo]

it's very likely better to get both chars

[drowsy shuttle]

ty

so would I just replace fischl and aino?

I really want columbina because shes cool and all

even with her lunar dmg buffs etc

and I feel like I need ineffa for her shield / good sub dps damage

and EM buff

[earnest gale]

i'm skipping columbina this time. my flins is ok with ineffa aino. I like zibai & illuga more

[lyric cargo]

yeah

if you don't end up getting Ineffa, I'd run Flins Bina Fischl Sucrose

[lyric cargo]

it's likely you'll have to pick between them
if both teams want Columbina, only one of them can have her

if I'd known about Zibai when Nefer came out, maybe I'd be going for her. but I'm committed to one route now

I used to wait for the first rerun when we have more information, but the lunar shill in stygian made me feel I need a lunar team right away

in hindsight, just getting the supports and leaving the dpses for later would've been good

[earnest gale]

No. My Flins is ok without columbina. He and ineffa carried me enough+any hydro.
And anchon rerun usually faster than random geo char.

I can use xinqiu in zibai team

[lyric cargo]

idk, I feel like it'll be pretty average rather than top meta

but all the power to you, I don't know what your goals are

(I'm just focused on building meta teams that don't have support overlap)

[valid anchor]

sometimes staff forgets to tell HoYoLAB related services will also be down for maintenance during patch downtime.

[ivory flint]

Can someone pls help me make my Barbara a dsp?

[cobalt sigil]

r5 widsith, 4pcs Marecchausse and pair her with Furina

She'd play like a funky Neuvillette on crack

[cobalt sigil]

Why Barbara in specific?

Neuvillette's around the corner, you could wait for him and have a 100% better Hydro DPS that's way more f2p friendly

[manic rune]

Could I join someone to collect lumitoile?

[safe loom]

guys pls help , should i put on deepwood memories if he is on a kinich team ( kinich, c3 bennet , c2 iansan , durin) he is right now on emblem but i think he would support kinich more with deepwood

[cedar flint]

deepwood is pretty much a must for dendro teams

[shut parrot]

Need help in zhongli quest

[cedar flint]

What exactly

[shut parrot]

No more stone it's a story quest i need to defeat a primo geovishap

[cedar flint]

Can you even co op during a story quest

[shut parrot]

Yea

[cedar flint]

Well are you eu

[shut parrot]

Asia

[cedar flint]

Welp can’t help ya

[thorn bay]

Can me help??

I suppose you already done

[shut parrot]

Nope still not done

[thorn bay]

Uid then?

[shut parrot]

880856624

[night sable]

looking for menacing carry in stygian, asia server, i have some decent supports and dps, not quite there tho. 878449508

[keen willow]

I did not enjoy this abyss

I don't think my gaming can do the last chamber

[lyric cargo]

the two banners a year where AoE suddenly matters and difficulty goes up

compared to that, abyss has been just a farming run compared to stygian lately

[keen willow]

Technically this abyss would be farming run for me too if i had varessa

Thing thats was hardest for me this abyss was the weasel chamber

[lyric cargo]

at first I let it really limit my team options, trying to force plunge

turned out it's still manageable without, once 12-1-1 is managed (the shield is just +100% hp)

I also struggled way more than was reasonable on 12-1-1, trying to build Venti teams

[keen willow]

I don't think venti is even that good for the first chamber

[lyric cargo]

turned out my default Mavuika team cleared it without issue
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1455292025602834605/Mav-AoE-chamber.mp4?ex=695431d0&is=6952e050&hm=36bf0ba465c2ab183cdbd0d884a988a4d504504e375533b0265453ebfe5aacbd&

granted, she is c2r1

[keen willow]

My arlecchino team cleared it in about 1 min 10 seconds

[lyric cargo]

but I tried way too many unviable teams before using my default

for the weasels, just a strong meta dps was able to clear the shield just fine:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1455289822787797188/Nefer-Weasel-shield.mp4?ex=695cc183&is=695b7003&hm=617e27d543e62d9a895f6e90e091d37d92230d5157a2b5c915d51edc30d8ece6&

this particular team did not do well in 12-3-2, though

[keen willow]

Oh yeah if i had lauma too i would play nefer on the second side

Without lauma its very cooked

[thorn bay]

Time to fodder with columbina

[keen willow]

I hope they survive until lauma rerun

[lyric cargo]

being made up of unshielded, somewhat frail chars
I think I died 6 times trying to do 12-3-1

then I decided "whatever, I've already 36★'d, I don't need to do this to myself"

sustainless really tends to hurt that much more in abyss than in stygian

particularly second side

[keen willow]

You could play xq for aino right

[lyric cargo]

but even with healing, that boss can easily oneshot a lvl70 Aino or lvl90 Nefer with no defensive stats

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[keen willow]

That would make u more tanky

[lyric cargo]

Aino being claymore breaks the 12-3-2 shield faster I guess

but Xq is definitely better for survivability, even if he forces you to weave in normal attacks

[keen willow]

12-3 first or second half?

[lyric cargo]

second, sry

[keen willow]

Yeah that guy really pisses me off I just brought zhongli after a while

[lyric cargo]

I wonder if my c6 Diona would've been a good final team slot (over Nahida), if she was built

it's been on my list tbh, I kinda forgot I wanted to build her for that

idk if the shield / healing will be enough

I could also go for Ineffa, she's a viable 4th member I heard

even though there'd be no Lunar-Charged since dendro aura is dominant 🤔

[keen willow]

I think my best team for the bloom crab boss was with kuki

[lyric cargo]

in terms of damage, my Nahida is c2 so that gives 10cr 20cd to Nefer

but it's sustainless if course (just p-amber on Nahida)

maybe p-amber will be viable on Columbina in the Aino slot

in the context of stygian, I dislike how it doesn't restore energy until your first burst

so effectively ER reqs for Stygian are the same as they would be without it, if you want to burst first rotation

[keen willow]

Man they're also releasing a geo unit right

[lyric cargo]

yeah https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Zibai

[keen willow]

Im sick of geo bosses😔

[lyric cargo]

also a new geo 4★
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Illuga

I'll likely pull him just for theater and risk either Zibai c0 or Neuvillette c2

[lyric cargo]

12 anemo (10 standard / 4★ including Mizuki)
8 geo (6 standard / 4★)
12 electro (11 standard / 4★)
8 dendro (5 standard / 4★)
10 hydro (7 standard / 4★)
11 pyro (10 standard / 4★)
11 cryo (9 standard / 4★)

geo and dendro really got short-changed, very few free chars in those elements

hydro used to be short-changed, but got Dahlia and Aino recently

[vivid python]

wait guys i'm using neuvillete I have him, furina, xilonen, and kazuha should I pull for ineffa or save for his c1

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?
it's generally recommended to go wide before you invest deep into one team

you want at least 3 very good teams, for stygian

[crude dirge]

is this too much hp for neuv? feather isnt leveled fully and im planning to reroll either sands or goblet

[lyric cargo]

there isn't really such a thing as too much of a damage scaling stat
there are diminishing returns, but 2 rolls of hp% will rarely be worth less than 1 roll of another stat

so the build with the highest number of useful subs is usually still best

after omzimizing for useful sub count, you'd look at your crit ratio for your next optimization target

[crude dirge]

should i prioritize crit pieces over hp pieces

i have a few

[lyric cargo]

in terms of substats, I count:
7, 5, 7, 5, 5

plume is a bit weak, rest is okay

[crude dirge]

it doesnt have one last roll though

[lyric cargo]

at equal substat count, usually yes

[crude dirge]

i dont have enough scrap to level

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pA5b-3ukKw
https://qiqis-notebook.com/route/68ef6a14316ee797d311a5f3

[crude dirge]

that 'under 10 minutes' is such a lie fr
they use a lot of movement characters

[lyric cargo]

Neuv's ascesion stat is crit dmg, and 4pc MH gives 36% cr
so your crit ratio would be 96.6 : 226.7?
one more cr roll without losing total substats would be nice

[crude dirge]

that one cr roll could be on plume

only later it will be for sure

[lyric cargo]

do we have a liben box sharing channel yet? seems we don't right now

seems the desirable ones are electro (gives resin) or pyro > hydro

dendro is probably less desirable than electro, since we can usually claim weapon ascension mats from the sigil shop (once it unlocks)

[lyric cargo]

anyone on EU got one of those?

[neon wave]

gives resin...?

[neon wave]

anyway can use this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vQj1MUAs10wtXdHuc8Fmpdk-Ncwz1SmJbW8T--Yx0T7IzRu2lB38OhUQV5Y7OrTNwK83pZXacWOTnRj/pubhtml

[lyric cargo]

"gives something that would cost resin"

it's subjective I guess, but I wouldn't spend resin on books or mora or artifact exp
so those are worth less to me
(they can be obtained virtually without limit, without spending resin. the talent books are pretty limited)

[lyric cargo]

thank you for this, very useful

[neon wave]

I caught a glance before you deleted but yeah the layout is not intuitive at all

(in case anyone else is wondering in the doc there's a list right below each box with open worlds you can claim that box from)

[sinful mirage]

Which is safer/better for my account overall?
Columbina + Nod Krai DPS (Flins, Nefer)
or
Columbina + Nod Krai Supports (Lauma, Ineffa)

[crude dirge]

the dps

if u only have two nod krai supports then what are they gonna support?

[rugged sparrow]

pulling Nefer without Llama

play Eula atp

[crude dirge]

we dont know what columbina does still

she could be buffing the same way lauma does

[rugged sparrow]

[neon wave]

I mean Lauma and Ineffa are solid units on their own

[rugged sparrow]

no no u dont get it

pull the chopped DPS without their dedicated supp

because Columbina will surely carry

[neon wave]

Though really we won't know what's "safer" until we actually have Bina's kit so might as well wait before giving any advice

[neon wave]

idc I'm getting all of them

[rugged sparrow]

whale...

[neon wave]

Just to be safe

[crude dirge]

+60% cr to every lunar reaction damage and 200% cd

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[lyric cargo]

supports (Ineffa / Lauma) are the better pulls, if you're not getting the dps
ask again when Bina is actually out or previewed on creator experience server, though

[crude dirge]

it all comes to being a xiao support any way

they always buff xiao

[rugged sparrow]

so true bestie

I love my Lauma buffing Xiao's blooms

like mr socks said, "im blooming!"

[near prism]

whoa whoa whoa, why are we grouping ineffa and lauma together

[rugged sparrow]

true, Lauma should be higher

cuz she makes Nefer a functioning unit

Flins don't need a cl*nker's help

[neon wave]

i have to push the niloom agenda somehow

[near prism]

my point was that flins doesnt need ineffa as much as nefer needs lauma 😔

[neon wave]

oh true

prinzessin never misses after all

[rugged sparrow]

the Durin Fischl Flins propaganda is strong

[lyric cargo]

or Sucrose Fischl Flins? 🤔
I wonder how it will compare to Ineffa, Fischl, Durin/Sucrose though

(as in, is getting Flins without Ineffa actually better than Ineffa without Flins)

[neon wave]

are you just kicking Flins out

ah

[rugged sparrow]

gotta ask @near prism how it compares

I'm sure Durin > Sucrose though for Flins (assuming Fischl is present), mostly carried by his personal too

[lyric cargo]

was thinking about someone who can't get both right away and wonders who to get

it's largely academical though, as Flins isn't running right now

[near prism]

yeah durin is better than sucrose in flins aino fischl core

[near prism]

flins team is higher dps but he's an on fielder, ineffa is more flexible

[crude dirge]

is this better
leveled new sands cuz the plume rolled def
could use my 40 cv plume from lyney

[crude dirge]

do i reroll this flower or save for hp goblet

[turbid widget]

i hate genshin so much i despise it

[crude dirge]

we all do

[true oar]

Anyone have any idea on how to form a team with Columbina?

[opal surge]

just treat her preliminarily as aino until exact kit is out

[calm zodiac]

Anyone here got the pyro box

[lyric cargo]

@calm zodiac ^

[half anchor]

how gud is a 234s fearless clear as f2p

[rugged sparrow]

"f2p" is very loose and vague

stygian clear is mostly determined by the shill anyway

if you're f2p but have the shilled match ups, you can even clear Dire

[hazy lotus]

not even 233s?

[rugged sparrow]

conversely some ppl who have c6 of specific units but aren't shilled will get bricked due to garbo match up

so

[lyric cargo]

f2p kinda depends on how long you've been playing I think
also 50/50 luck, but that should average out a bit over a long enough time

[lyric cargo]

I'm at over 1100 days active now, with 22 limited 5-star pulls
300 - 340s clear time in the stygians so far
but I don't usually grind for a good time, I mostly stop when I have a clear

you could show the teams for context

boss 2 is a bit of a cheese, so maybe take that one out of the calculation if you want to measure account strength? idk

it's a bit of an unusual stygian this time

[half anchor]

i did use the cheese for that boss ye
my main time save was the first boss tho i got a 66s run with skirk c0

[half anchor]

skirk escoffier furina mona
jean amber 🥀
poorly built c2 varesa + durin + c5 chev + c4 iansan

it was like 256s with c1 arle for the last one instead of varesa

[rugged sparrow]

well u got very good match ups on this stygian (barring cheese), 234s is reasonable

with enough sweat you can probs also clear Dire

might or might not need c6 Chev + Iansan

[half anchor]

ye thats what i was gonna say lol

this banner gave me so many chevreuses but stopped at c5

[rugged sparrow]

if you scam 2nd chamber with a 20s run you can also get even faster clear

but it needs ZL I think? no idea if ZL-less is possible

[half anchor]

ye i dont have zonghli

[half anchor]

someone will find a way

somehow

[rugged sparrow]

them CN sweaters

[viral mulch]

geo mc amber duo clear is doable

[rugged sparrow]

in any case, with how stygian is modeled, it's just a matter of having good match up against shilled content

[viral mulch]

u just position mc so the q traps the owl

[rugged sparrow]

a

so 20s clear scam is possible

[half anchor]

is IT lunar mode acc hard or is it just character requiring

im 3 chars away but the stupid elixir is out of my reach cus of that

[rugged sparrow]

it's just character req

you can argue it's "harder" since it requires more proper chars to be built

some lunar stages are considerably difficult though if you just slap lv70 chars with fuckall artis

[half anchor]

realistically even getting the chars to like top 30% on akasha is enough, at least for the first 8 acts

[rugged sparrow]

I'm still traumatized by those 2 cons beast chamber when I don't have anyone usable

legit harder than boss chamber

[half anchor]

o

[half anchor]

the what now

[rugged sparrow]

consecrated beast

the Sumeru Desert elemental beasts

[half anchor]

oh that guy

[rugged sparrow]

ye there was a Tiger + Scorpion lunar chamber

needs like 60s clear? for a stella

[half anchor]

do they have elemental res?

[rugged sparrow]

ye

it's just atp my only usable "DPS" was a 4p Cinder Mav with Aquamarine

barely cleared

after like a lot of resets

[half anchor]

is mavuika better as a support in IT

[rugged sparrow]

on any other chamber I doubt I'll struggle

[rugged sparrow]

not really no
I just dont have her built as DPS

[viral mulch]

i miss cons beast at this point

at least their gimmick wasnt total bullshit

they were just really angry

[rugged sparrow]

u mean u miss anything pre-Natlan/NK

how did Genshin devolve into this

[half anchor]

how devs feel after making knuckle duckle have 99999999 resistance if you don't use lunar charged or electrocharged

[rugged sparrow]

how devs feel after making Wild Hunt mobs have 9999x EHP if u dont have lunar shill

[viral mulch]

hoyo carefully crafting the most frustrating and bullshit enemy gimmicks in gaming industry

[rugged sparrow]

"oh you don't have new lunar chars? lmao this mob has triple the HP btw"

[half anchor]

btw how are u even meant to clear that second stygian boss legitimately lmao
without like venti/chasca
like mualani aint happening if ur not a whale

[rugged sparrow]

Durin

he's not excluded

but I cleared it on Fearless (the legit way) with overload Klee + Durin

took like 80s but then again my Klee Durin have a bit of vertical (c1 Klee, c1r1 Durin)

[viral mulch]

its intended shit was venti durin double shill

[half anchor]

oh damn can klee reach it?

[rugged sparrow]

Klee's CA and E have weirdly high vertical hitbox

[viral mulch]

technically mavuika can do it

[near prism]

[rugged sparrow]

for no good reason

[near prism]

lyney is also good vs the bat

[half anchor]

its almost as if they were on the banner

[viral mulch]

hang on i didnt save the screenshot

[viral mulch]

no wayyyy

[rugged sparrow]

I'm still baffled my Klee's CA can just hit the bat when it's midair

the E too

[half anchor]

i just remembered arlecchino's charge attack works asw if you position yourself very well

but its way too slow for fearless obvs

[near prism]

net!! i got c2 xilo!! i can finally play 3 geo without brick

[rugged sparrow]

oh god oh fuck

[near prism]

uhhh

[viral mulch]

ok i cant find it fast enough

[viral mulch]

lol grats

[near prism]

probably dont bother with arle CAs, just bring along like fischl and someone that can actually hit it

regardless arle is probably better vs the plunge boss without durin

[earnest gale]

amber

[half anchor]

i did this for when i was doing the hard version for the first time cus i couldn't be bothered to read and ended up having to improvise

[viral mulch]

whatever i just gotta show in some way

[near prism]

oh? the CA windup hits?

thats nice

[viral mulch]

yea
only that part tho unless u pulled it down beforehand

[half anchor]

c6?

[near prism]

yeah

[half anchor]

crazy dmg

[viral mulch]

the shieldbreak is doable at c0 as well

[near prism]

yes but c6 doesnt shieldbreak

[viral mulch]

c6 procs dont apply pyro so doesnt matter

[half anchor]

ye ik i was moreso shocked at the amount u did solo

[half anchor]

idek what mavuikas cons are ngl

[viral mulch]

i try to do full solo runs on fearless for idk no reason
so far no dire cycle was fully soloable so gotta settle here

[rugged sparrow]

kill

[viral mulch]

it uh lets u do more damage
shocking fr

i found the vid but not the screenshot

[near prism]

mav and wrio fighting for their lives

varesa:

[viral mulch]

haha zutsukii

ikuyooo

[near prism]

clears faster than the average 12 cost varesa team that isnt c6r5 tbh

[viral mulch]

theres smth wrong with varesa solo in like a too good way

[near prism]

its mostly the no downtime

[viral mulch]

speaking of which @rugged sparrow ange still didnt c6 varesa 😔

my solo youtuber washed

[near prism]

because like in a full team varesa doesnt actually whale that insanely well right?

but in solo you get to abuse the hell out of her c6

[rugged sparrow]

if only Wrio doesn't get mogged in terms of mv compared to solo Varesa

[viral mulch]

its only if you view it as like hard speedrun timer comparison

shes good at everything but speedrun

[near prism]

oh yeah i know i was more so thinking about dps

[viral mulch]

and her full team performance recently got buffed because durin too

her dps window is now longer than 2 nanoseconds of vv uptime of xianyun

[near prism]

afaik she whales below most 4.x onward hypercarries in terms of total team dps when whaled out in a full team

[half anchor]

who's the best solo c6 in terms of speedruns

[near prism]

but its mostly because her teams arent optimized for her cons

[near prism]

varesa and its not really close

[viral mulch]

mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

IKUZOOO

[near prism]

oh wait

[viral mulch]

varesa is second

[near prism]

that said speedruns brain bricked

[viral mulch]

the difference is mavuika needs you to break your wrist doing those combos

while varesa is braindead ikuyoo

[rugged sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/varesa-genshin-genshin-impact-cow-cowgirl-gif-16312336725105131109

[near prism]

varesa requires you to break your E

[viral mulch]

and also mald once every while cus she autotargetted into some random place

[rugged sparrow]

Mav requires you to have a health insurance

[near prism]

so expensive

[rugged sparrow]

gonna be having that constant check up to the doctor after you break your wrist