📌gimshim-help

[rugged sparrow]

also overload Clor on top half isn't very fun on 1st chamber

cicin mage basically gets ragdolled so I have to watch my positioning

[opal surge]

I swear I was chatting between chamber 2 and chamber 3

[rugged sparrow]

clue

plungenette

based tbh

also funny how we got plunge shill abyss but DPS Xianyun can't clear it

cuz the mf robot on 3rd chamber

[opal surge]

u can break with furina ig

you only get one rotation anyway

[rugged sparrow]

ye that's what I did

I almost ran Faru/Venti/Mona/Xianyun

then remembered that shit ass boss have garbage plunge shield

or geo shield ig

[opal surge]

xianyun breaks weasel ward right

[rugged sparrow]

I'm actually not sure if it was my damage or the ward

I mean

like pure bruteforce or mech

[bright cape]

mavuika can somehow plunge for weasel

[rugged sparrow]

finally

[opal surge]

mods whale emote this man

[rugged sparrow]

u have no idea how many times I reset on 1st chamber

it was 7:00 clear too

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/this-man-whale-react-him-discord-whale-react-gif-26387281

[pearl marsh]

Which is the better build?

[bright cape]

12-1-1 was nightmare.

[rugged sparrow]

2nd should be better

[bright cape]

@rugged sparrow will xiangling be able to burgeon in above team?

i saw some

[rugged sparrow]

I mean she'll burgeon alright

[bright cape]

i was trying for almost half an hour with random builds. but later moved furina to key and xl to kuki's artifact and thoma's weaopon

after that it was very smooth

[neon zephyr]

Hello, is there anyone in America who can help me farm Viridescent Venerer, please? 💔

[rugged sparrow]

don't farm the VV domain, strongbox it instead

[cedar flint]

they do be putting anything in abyss now days 🥀

[bright cape]

how did the 1st half work?

does ineffa do most dps?

or the doctor

[cedar flint]

Ineffa obviously

[bright cape]

i am surprised hydro was enough with just aino

[cedar flint]

aino is goated

[bright cape]

does ifa have infusion?

[cedar flint]

and well lunar charge doesn’t need high hydro app

[bright cape]

if everything goes well, i will pull on ineffa

[cedar flint]

She is goated

Honestly she only gains value with time so far

[lyric cargo]

bit hard to evaluate her with the sheet right now

calcs are still from before nod-krai came out

I have SoSS, but this weapon comparison might be scuffed when it comes to team dmg
now that she's no longer the only nod-krai char on the team

[near prism]

why would it, its not like any other spear besides her sig has team buffs

[lyric cargo]

(why would it be scuffed?)
yeah, because the sig has team buffs and the calc is for a team that doesn't have nk teammates that benefit from it

that's exactly why the team dps comparison would be scuffed?

[near prism]

i dont get it, sig is already in first place, how would this affect the ranking for her weapons?

[forest venture]

ineffa im getting cold

[lyric cargo]

it's about the size of the gap: I'm not looking to pull sig if it's a 3k dps increase from the weapon I have

(I'm likely not pulling it regardless of the gap, unless it's with another weapon I want)

[near prism]

well then the answer is easy
have flins? get fractured halo
no flins? stick to soss

[lyric cargo]

basically I'm not sure if it'd be worth it with flins if you already have SoSS
since the sheet is from before nk, so it doesn't show what the increase would be

(it's kinda academical, I'm not getting Flins)

[viral mulch]

[dim hill]

uh, so i stopped playing genshin starting from luna 1 and only came back just now and saw some spoilers ||about columbina leaving or smth, idk the full details of it.|| if i rush the main quest till the latest, will i still be able to do the selenic chronicles or will i miss out on some cutscenes?

[quaint fern]

Bro what is this 12-1

[lyric cargo]

we have to wait until next patch
it got disabled the moment I logged in on day 1 of the patch, without even progressing any further in the archon quest
completing it does not re-enable it

[bright cape]

yah. u need a specific aoe

[lyric cargo]

the one banner a year where AoE suddenly matters

(well, it mattered for the first arcanum stage in theater so far)

[bright cape]

nilou bloom should work right?

doing 12-1 separately is the way

[quaint fern]

I might honestly have to try coming back but idk if niloom can do that many cryo mages

[bright cape]

i came back with better builds on 12-1. my half assed furina and xiangling was not cutting it

[quaint fern]

I'm just going to wait a day

[bright cape]

from the buffs looks like it was made for durin. u should be able to do it

[quaint fern]

I wont have enough mats to lvl 90 durin until tmrw (thanks 5 day quest)

[jagged juniper]

will level up the characters properly of course

[quaint fern]

no fischl?

[bright cape]

i doubt this is possible

[quaint fern]

with this abyss???

[bright cape]

abyss dps check has increased so much

[bright cape]

yah. on a fresh account

[quaint fern]

how much hp is this abyss anyways

[bright cape]

he grinds 6-8 hours everyday

[quaint fern]

no shot

that's probably not even enough time to catch up on the archon quest

[bright cape]

he speedruns that and exploration

it was possible way back

[quaint fern]

tbh I'm not even sure if my durin teams are fit for this abyss

[elder bluff]

only 6-8? it is like a normal streamer's length not a challenge

[quaint fern]

the OL knockback is actually pretty bad for 12-1-1

[bright cape]

may be he also plays offline.

[quaint fern]

2nd half seem brute forceable

[jagged juniper]

going to get fischl later, still need to do witch's homework

[quaint fern]

arle chevy bennett fischl
mav citlali bennett flex

those are most obvious

can also just swap arle into the melt team

but no real way of getting around both teams needing bennett, ig you can swap iansan for one of them\

[jagged juniper]

bleh. I guess I gotta pull for xilo when she re-runs, just so i can actually free up benny for father

[elder bluff]

replace bennett with durin in 1st team

[quaint fern]

do they have durin?

[jagged juniper]

Nope, saving for Columbina

[lyric cargo]

I tried Nefer Lauma Aino Bennett, and it was kinda cursed even with having a way to break the shields in theory 😅
she clears them well, but the moment one gets its shield up it gets awkward

I later saw this, though. maybe I'm just not playing well enough
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THfZZR4Cf6M

[bright cape]

so bennett was for the last boss?

i heard if u kill the flies the cryo shield becomes too weak

nefer's aoe is very good

[lyric cargo]

idea was to use burning and spam E + N1C with his c6

[bright cape]

i used xiangling with thoma weapon. it was very good

[lyric cargo]

I thought we had to get the full 120 pyro hits and then break the shield, though.
that's not the case, just get the bar to 50% and have some res shred

[viral mulch]

least unemployed player

[uncut herald]

My venti is on em build. Can i go hybrid or is it better just to pick 1 playstyle (em/dps)?

I dont have durin and im not sure if i want to go dps venti yet (altho this may change with the witches) which is why im considering going half and half em and crit but it’s maybe not worth it like that?

[full sonnet]

Does flins ultimate count as a plunging attack?

[viral mulch]

no

[violet cipher]

What should I do against plunge boss side?

[cedar flint]

Well if you can clear chamber one skirk will be able to 3* the rest

[violet cipher]

Yeah Arle can clear the 1st phase just fine (haven't tried ch3 though so dk for sure)

[sterile ruin]

Does Flins’ small ult count as plunge attack

[strange scarab]

You can literally scroll up someone just asked that

[sterile ruin]

I see

[maiden kayak]

which is better for faruzan? r5 fav bow or elegy of the end?

[lyric cargo]

with the buffs, it's best to go atk% anemo% crit

[cedar flint]

Venti dps in big 2025 wasn’t on my bingo card

[unique perch]

Hellooo everyone, I'm using a friends account and it's been a while since I played aswell. I wanna ask on what could be the best team comps to run for the abyss? I already have a comp in mind for Mavuika but I don't know what would be the best comp for the other half. Here are their characters!

[lyric cargo]

to be fair, he's not actually a good on-fielder in my eyes

70k c0 dps?
maybe better than Wanderer / Xiao, but not exactly meta levels

[lyric cargo]

plunge is shilled second half, so maybe Xiao?

[unique perch]

I'm thinking of the same thing but I never used Xiao before, what units should I run with him?

I already had Faruzan and Jean in mind, unfortunately my friend doesn't have Xianyun

[lyric cargo]

was going to say Xiao, Venti, c6 Faruzan, 2nd witch char

but seems Faru isn't leveled and maybe not c6?
and p-amber Mona healing might but be enough for chamber 3

so might as well run Bennett or Jean in the last slot over Faru

[unique perch]

Leveling Faruzan isn't a problem for me but unfotunately Faruzan is only C1

[lyric cargo]

Jean isn't c4, is she?

[unique perch]

Jean is C5

[lyric cargo]

oh, that sounds good then

have the witch's homework quests been done?

Venti and Mona's in particular

[unique perch]

Not yet, but we can do it

[lyric cargo]

to unlock their buffs

they're not that long

[unique perch]

If I'm going to use Benny for Xiao, should I run Iansan with Mavuika for the other half?

[lyric cargo]

I'd use the c5 Jean, since that frees up Benny for first side

Xiao, Venti, Jean, Mona/Fischl

is Fischl c6? if not, she's not a consuderation I think

[unique perch]

It's C6

Mona's C3

[lyric cargo]

the abyss buff, Mona, Venti all buff dmg%
and Xiao's kit as well iirc?

so it's stacking a lot of it, but iirc Xiao's set gives a bunch of atk?

theres Jean for res shred, so either way that's buffs to every stat

[unique perch]

Alrightyyy

Thank you soo muchh

[violet cipher]

did it, ty.

hp or hydro dmg on Mualani? Does it matter?

[rugged sparrow]

depends™
also depends™ too

depending on team buffs etc, the diff can matter a lot and not

[crude dirge]

do i reroll

@rugged sparrow

[rugged sparrow]

up to you

[crude dirge]

gambleee

[rugged sparrow]

all things considered it's only 1 missed roll

[crude dirge]

4 liner double crit em on set that wants em

[rugged sparrow]

with high cr rolls too

3.9 3.9 3.5

[crude dirge]

it just took cr roll and made it cd

[rugged sparrow]

lowest cdmg rolls too, rough

and low cr roll

so from the looks of it your inital cdmg roll was 5.4 and you landed on 7.0

cr was either 3.9 or 3.5 and you lowrolled 2.7 or 3.1

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/vro-pmo-ngl-gif-10268498521266426722

[kind raptor]

how do i quickly deal with the 12-3-1 robot with a team of:

c1 neuvillette - c4r1 furina - c0r1 mavuika (scroll) - lauma

?

my other side is:
c0r1 flins - ineffa - aino - zhongli

[opal surge]

you need to fill the pyro gauge circle to at least half before doing other damage

just by maintaining burning with mav and lauma

[kind raptor]

uy thanks

[stiff latch]

I am definately not ready for stygian onslaught but this event ends soon, should I try it anyway?

I don't know how it works tbh

[opal surge]

first three stages are trivial I dont see why you wouldnt do it

[crude dirge]

abyss but on an actual strict timer that makes u lose unlike abyss where u just get less rewards (if difficulty more than hard)

[bright cape]

only fearless is more difficult than abyss

[crude dirge]

and u still lose after 2 minutes in menacing

[thorn bay]

@opal surge
I think I’m bursting every 2/3 rotation

Maybe even every rot

[opal surge]

menacing is more difficult than abyss too

its actually not particularly close

but all primos are trivial to get so

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1338920719589048320/888612380634927176-96.gif

[sterile ruin]

should i use this team, im pulling Xilonen

[rugged sparrow]

unless you're speedrunning, no

[bright cape]

won't yelan be better?

[rugged sparrow]

ye

problem with the team is you're basically gimping Furina's fanfare generation because the nature of Arle's kit

[sterile ruin]

or this team

[rugged sparrow]

ye it's good as long as u can not get hit

[sterile ruin]

ig im doing good with that cus ive been running Arlecc without shield

[sterile ruin]

is it better than arlecc xiangling raiden chev

[rugged sparrow]

it frees up Bennett without compromising team DPS

what is Raiden doing

[sterile ruin]

electro applications cus i didnt build fischl

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

Xiangling basically needs bajillion ER here
Raiden has worse dmg than Fischl off-field

[sterile ruin]

ig putting them together lifts off at least one burden

i have fav on raiden

[rugged sparrow]

just play Durin Fischl variant

[opal surge]

lvl 50 fischl prolly does 4 times the damage raiden does

[rugged sparrow]

probs not due to level disparity

[pale spoke]

Should i get jahoda for nefer or just try to build yaoyao

[rugged sparrow]

but +45% atk buff through Hexerei

[sterile ruin]

hexerei needs 2 hexerei characters on the team right?

[rugged sparrow]

which Durin and Fischl are yes

[sterile ruin]

ig imma have to speedrun build both durin and fischl

my keyboard needs to stop autocorrect durin to during

[rugged sparrow]

the diff between Durin Fischl and Xiangling Raiden is not even close

[sterile ruin]

💔

i dont even like building xiangling so theres that

[opal surge]

no she definitely does

[sterile ruin]

ig her c1 pyro shred was nice while it lasted

[opal surge]

lvl 50 fischl 4/4/4 does almost 20k dps

[rugged sparrow]

the fuck

that doesn't sound right

[opal surge]

https://gcsim.app/sh/KnKDqzTcQ968

well i say almost its 17k but thats without durin

[sterile ruin]

why is her basic 4

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

just sim parameters

it doesn't change anything anw so

[sterile ruin]

buddy i dont have c6r5 fischl

[opal surge]

it doesnt matter

[sterile ruin]

wait why does chev have natlan set-

[rugged sparrow]

12% dmg

[opal surge]

its bis

[rugged sparrow]

roughly equal to Nob/TotM

which is goodge

[sterile ruin]

i thought that only triggers with nightsoul burst

[opal surge]

the 40% yeah

[sterile ruin]

oh oh

[opal surge]

it does 12% without nsb

either way the point is just fischl does damage and raiden does not, raiden can never substitute fischl as off field electro

because raiden effectively just doesnt do anything

if you dont field her

[rugged sparrow]

HYPERBLO-

[opal surge]

true caught

except for that

[sterile ruin]

so i put noblesse on durin and scroll on chev

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[sterile ruin]

is er weapon + hp sand or hp weapon + er sand better in maxing chev energy and passive

do i even need her burst

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

uh burst isn't necessary

[opal surge]

mine is atk pyro crit

[rugged sparrow]

u can make the argument of wanting to Q triple hE depending on teams but for the most part she's fine with just hE

[sterile ruin]

so no attention to hp atk passive?

[rugged sparrow]

I still run 40k HP

but if I go atk/pyro/crit I probs could fit more DPS

[sterile ruin]

i have 38

[rugged sparrow]

cuz Im running her with c1 Durin

[opal surge]

you should prolly generally max out hp

[sterile ruin]

yeah thats easiest

[opal surge]

i just have like a random 37 subs full crit set on sodp

so she has that

[sterile ruin]

ig im tossing out that er sand

[rugged sparrow]

what in the whel

[opal surge]

I farmed for navia

[rugged sparrow]

Im strongboxing her rn

220cv with fuckall other subs I think

[opal surge]

well!

Dehya stole her verdict I think

[rugged sparrow]

nvm

[opal surge]

my navia build is not great

yours is also not much better

[rugged sparrow]

why's my Navia full strongbox better

[opal surge]

the domain scammed me what can I say

I th ink my circlet might even be crafted

[rugged sparrow]

ye my circlet also craft

[opal surge]

honestly most of my non mare sets are kinda ass

my account was seeded only for the mare GT domain

[rugged sparrow]

Mare GT my beloved

do I wanna spend more days improving my Wrio

[opal surge]

prefarm DPC in case varka needs it

[lyric cargo]

up to stage 4 (menacing) can be done in co-op, but the for menacing the co-op teammate would need pretty good builds to solo it

[rugged sparrow]

u mean farm VV

[opal surge]

true...

[rugged sparrow]

we all know anemo units are all VV bots in disguise

[candid fable]

can someone reccommend me a clorinde - durin team?

[opal surge]

chev fischl

[true harbor]

my brain's not working rn can u guys help me clear 12-3 ? (there's also chevreuise built)(everyone you see here is fully built)

[opal surge]

@rugged sparrow playing my single target character as god intended

(I can now clear the chamber in a minute + some seconds )

[rugged sparrow]

Mizuki looking real good rn

[rugged sparrow]

just Arle on 1st half and Xiao 2nd half

Arle/Durin/Fischl/Chev
Xiao/Furi/Xianyun/Faru

[bright cape]

post full run

[true harbor]

wasnt using it because xiao and arlec were sharing pjws but now i learned arle can make do with white tassel as well xd

[bright cape]

it looks fun to look at

[true harbor]

which artifcats are best to feed to artifact transmuter ? +4 or +20

[sterile ruin]

me debating between using shitty artifacts for strongboxing, transmuting or feeding

i have not use strongboxing for months

[quaint fern]

oh no...

I dont even know what to box atp

[sterile ruin]

box all no-double-crit, thats my way

[quaint fern]

no I dont know what set to box

[sterile ruin]

who r u building

[quaint fern]

just skirk maxxing rn

[bright cape]

what does durin use?

[quaint fern]

I just have him on emblem rn

and I'm trying to upgrade xiao & gaming with lno rn

[bright cape]

didn't know u had xiao

[quaint fern]

chronicled wish

[bright cape]

do u have pjws from standard?

[quaint fern]

he's still not in usable shape imo

[bright cape]

while getting c6 ganyu?

[quaint fern]

I have a spare calamity

[bright cape]

hope u get pjws soon

i find it very versatile

[lyric cargo]

I'm at 2398 / 2400 now, having to find a few pieces to toss every day 😔

[quaint fern]

it's fine I have like 200-300 buffer room full of fodder

I just needed to roll some things

[buoyant cove]

anyone know how often weapon billets drop from weekly bosses?

im wondering if i should increase the rate at which i do weekly bosses

[quaint fern]

it's a 1/8 chance

it's not super resin efficient to be doing more than three runs per week, so unless you really need the billets I'd just wait to slowly accumulate them

there's also other sources of the billets like the regional offering sytems that usually have at least a one copy of each billet for the region

[maiden kayak]

what day is usually the lantern rite?

[lean tree]

talents nd level is wip but are the stats good?

[elder bluff]

lunar new year

[quaint fern]

Goblet and flower are okay, check with optimizer for your team bc atk goblet can be about the same as pyro

Rest can be improved

You typically won't need that much ER as well

[sterile ruin]

i have these 2 teams, the characters I need to build is Jahoda, Durin, and Fischl

I have time limit of 1mon and limited resources, which character should I prioritize finishing?

[rugged sparrow]

out of curiosity, is Jahoda c6

[sterile ruin]

Nah c0

[rugged sparrow]

though Fischl/Durin is the likeliest priority to build due to their dmg share
esp Fischl since she's the lowest-levelled

[rugged sparrow]

eh why not use Sucrose then

[sterile ruin]

Idk

Well my rotation sucks anyway and i cant swirl electro

[rugged sparrow]

it's really just Aino EQ > Kuki E(Q) > anemo unit > Flins

[sterile ruin]

Then my aino’s ult doesnt last as long

[rugged sparrow]

her ult doesn't need to last "long" though? it lasts long enough for Flins' rotation

which is around 8s anyway

[sterile ruin]

Cus her ult always ends before i get to finish Flins’ combo

[rugged sparrow]

the one thing you should be concerned is if there is no thundercloud

Aino's ult lasts long enough to supply the thundercloud until Flins' rot finishes

[sterile ruin]

Ig i’ll put jahoda aside for now

[rugged sparrow]

c0 Jahoda isn't too impressive for Flins unless you really need the heal (usually by having other electros like Fischl)

or other hydro other than Aino (not that there's plenty of options)

[sterile ruin]

How much err does durin need

[rugged sparrow]

depends on E level and team

[sterile ruin]

Overload, lets say i can get his E to 10

[rugged sparrow]

130-140 should be enough for double pyro team(s)
Im just eyeballing the numbers though, can double-check with ERC

[sterile ruin]

Erc?

[neon wave]

Energy Recharge Calculator

[bold kernel]

If I clear all the food in my inventory am I able to eat my emergency food(paimon)?

[keen willow]

We're in 2026

[bold kernel]

I think you skipped a few days

[true harbor]

is arleccino skill needed to level up ? isnt it enough to keep at 6-8? it doesnt have much impact on the damage from what i can see

[keen willow]

I have her triple crowned

[true harbor]

i got her by mistake so i dont want to send too mcuh on her

[rugged sparrow]

ye her E/Q is kinda w/e

NA >>>>>

[true harbor]

w e ?

[rugged sparrow]

whatever

[true harbor]

i see

[rugged sparrow]

if you like her feel free to spend resources on it but it won't make much diff

[true harbor]

rn busy with triple crowning itto but struggling with financial resources 😄

[rugged sparrow]

don't we all

[hazy lotus]

this guy has his priorities straight

[rugged sparrow]

prepping for that yokai faction buff or w/e

[hazy lotus]

mizuki buff 🔥 🔥

[rugged sparrow]

"HELP ME HOYO, THIS IS BASE SUCROSE WE'RE UP AGAINST"

[true harbor]

next up in order :
itto 2 skill/NA - durin Triple - Venti NA - Escoffier Burst - Flins Skill - Lauma Skill/Burst
so i need lots of money damn

[rugged sparrow]

what in the

[neon wave]

[neon harness]

woa

[lyric cargo]

next banner preview is out

[rugged sparrow]

both Varesa banners feature the same 4-stars

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-black-cat-cattok-cat-tiktok-gif-16975015739671408900

the weap banner is also good if u want to pull for Varesa's sig

Widsith, Alley Hunter, Favge Lance, Fav Sword isn't too bad either

then Fruitful Hook

[molten tendon]

What is better for Nefer C0R1, CD hat or EM hat?

[opal surge]

Crit

[rugged sparrow]

crit almost always better ye

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I might honestly wait the ~21 days until the banners after (including 4-stars) are announced
and then consider pulling on these

I do kinda want Varesa, I just wouldn't spend the full 75 - 150 it takes to guarantee her

[rugged sparrow]

the only "bad" pull u can get is genuinely Varesa's sig if u don't play Varesa
and Fruitful ig

if u don't play Varesa, odds of you playing any other plunge DPS is low

[lyric cargo]

I have r2 Fruitful on my Ga Ming, but idk if gettin it to r5 will really fix him
he's done little for me outside theater

[elder bluff]

depends on the weapon
sig -> EM is better
others -> crit is better

[lyric cargo]

I assume by r1 they mean sig

[rugged sparrow]

ig just depends on how willing you are to play Gaming

his sheet is high but practice is sometimes

[opal surge]

With Sig em circlet is almost never better

You have to have some crazy stats to get em circlet as optimal

For the vast majority of players it's just crit

[rugged sparrow]

just get 200cdmg subs true

[opal surge]

True ..

[rugged sparrow]

r5 Fruitful is what, 64cv?

and 32% plunge dmg

why is this weapon allowed to exist

[lyric cargo]

it depends on substats as well, it would seem. At least if Akasha's substat priority is right
I'll trust Sensi more than akasha, though ^^

for my build with CD circlet, the substat priority is pretty close. so CD circlet has to be better for me here 🤔

[opal surge]

Yeah but it's cuz U have a crit circlet

The substat distribution would look vastly different

[rugged sparrow]

Nefer sig [3]

[opal surge]

If U had an em circlet

[rugged sparrow]

where's Nefer sig [1] and [2]

[opal surge]

Yes EM is close to or better than crit on nefer

But this applies to substats after EM EM Crit

[rugged sparrow]

god u saying this reminds me of that guy from days back

[opal surge]

[lyric cargo]

the top 2 build on the c2 Nahida leaderboard uses EM circlet

[lyric cargo]

it's my third build on sig

[rugged sparrow]

well they have 200cv without a circlet

which is

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[rugged sparrow]

40cv avg on each piece

[lyric cargo]

flower is mostly EM

[opal surge]

31 crit subs 😌

[rugged sparrow]

bet if that flower highrolls into cdmg

it'll be better too

[lyric cargo]

yeah
the substat priority implies that?

[opal surge]

For reference crit circlet and em circlet are both just ~= 10 subs

So 10 subs skewer in either direction can sway it

But it's not normal to have 10 extra crit subs

[rugged sparrow]

wdym

[opal surge]

Over a "normal' build

[rugged sparrow]

just lucksack it duh

u telling me u can't hit 300cv builds???

[opal surge]

I don't even have a 250 I think

[lyric cargo]

it's somewhat skewed by sands and goblet only being able to have crit
so it only depends on flower and plume how many crit vs EM subs you have

[opal surge]

Is it over for me

[rugged sparrow]

yes...

[neon wave]

they're actually diabolical

[rugged sparrow]

they're gonna revoke your TC license

[rugged sparrow]

it's so tempting

both the char and weap banner

[lyric cargo]

well, and the quality of your sands / goblet. I'm assuming high roll value builds with a random mix of EM / crit subs

[rugged sparrow]

Varesa got a (semi) complete team from just pulling and getting moderately lucky

then if u pull weap banner u can get Widsith as consolation

Xilo is... Xilo

[neon wave]

I am probably going to build pity if next banner 4 stars are bad

cause wtf is this .....

I'm still iansanless

[opal surge]

I'm a fraud

[rugged sparrow]

doomge

[rugged sparrow]

the only thing that's holding me back is I don't need Varesa

and c1 Xilo is cringe

[opal surge]

Reject iansan save for

[viral mulch]

zybai 💔

[viral mulch]

build pity

[rugged sparrow]

sir

[viral mulch]

if u get varesa +1 theater

[lyric cargo]

if that's the standard then so am I
(the Heizou is holding possible Varesa 4pc codex artifacts, I'm not actually playing Heizou ^^)

[neon wave]

stop flexing I have half of those

😔

[viral mulch]

this akashasweat has multiple of the same char

[rugged sparrow]

I don't want

look the problem is
where I'd use Varesa, I'd rather use Clor cuz I like Clor more

I'd rather c1 Xilo cuz it's a stepping stone to c2

[viral mulch]

theater wont allow that

[neon wave]

oh wtf I didn't notice

[rugged sparrow]

I have plenty of electros

[viral mulch]

the iansan is calling u

[rugged sparrow]

my Iansan is c6

[neon wave]

then I don't have half

[rugged sparrow]

it's Chev that's c4

[viral mulch]

oh

yea chev is calling u

[rugged sparrow]

I pulled Iansan in 1 banner
c6

I pulled Chev on 3 separate banners
c4
?

[rugged sparrow]

noh

[viral mulch]

but 60% dmg bonus

🥺

[rugged sparrow]

do u want to buy me genesis pack if I get c1 Xilo/Varesa early

if I lose 50/50 (Early) then doesn't matter in a hindsight cuz guaranteed bina at least

[viral mulch]

sry i spent it on miliastra costume

[rugged sparrow]

smh

[viral mulch]

i dont even play it much but just cosmetic stuff is fun

[near prism]

@viral mulch @rugged sparrow this isnt even a joke anymore im going to cry

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

i got it down to that 8 FUCKING TIMES

[hushed idol]

I'm steadily grinding my Durin enough to do the hird AR rank up quest (that I always struggled with back when it had the freaking Hypostasis there and struggle even more now with the timed challenge) and I'm curious if Sucrose can work in place of Wanderer or Kazuha in a team with Durin-Mona-Bennett. Or if there's a better set-up? Those darn tornados in the first wave throw me off badly on top of the mobs scattering everywhere.

(my Wanderer and Kazuha are low level)

[lyric cargo]

anyone got a video of c0 Arle bruteforcing the weasels in 12-1-2? (without breaking shields)

I've seen this, but they use Xilo to climb and then plunge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dj5s_Iksis

so it's not a bruteforce

[rugged sparrow]

wdym without breaking shield

like just afk wait?

[lyric cargo]

I was told Skirk can just bruteforce them with raw damage

rather than needing plunges
so I was wondering if that's a thing for Arle as well

[opal surge]

I don't think the shield cares how much damage you do does kt

It just doesn't take damage from non plunges?

[rugged sparrow]

its 100% of its HP as shield

plunge does it faster

[opal surge]

Oh huh

[lyric cargo]

not sure if non-plunges do any damage at all, but it would take ages I imagined
people said it's possible to bruteforce, though

[opal surge]

I could've sworn I just did 0 damage to it

[lyric cargo]

White Shield equal to 100% Max HP. When hit by a Plunging Attack, will lose an extra 25% Shield.
When Shield is broken, loses HP equal to 15% non-Plunge DMG + 160% Plunge DMG taken by Shield, not exceeding 50% Max HP.

[opal surge]

If it's just 100% hp it should be trivial

For arle

[rugged sparrow]

I mean I broke it with Wrio solo (c6) but Arle with full team should be higher DPS

[opal surge]

I remember I fought it in IT and it gave me the impression that not plunging literally just doesn't do damage on it

So I ended up plunging off of Zhongli pillar

That being said don't all of Arles better teams have a character that can comfortably plunge

Citlali/Xilonen/iansan

Ig you probably don't play iansan in overload

[full sonnet]

hows my flins stats

[elder bluff]

too many cr, too many er, too little cd

[lyric cargo]

post an enka card for better feedback

[thorn bay]

Should I reroll this

[lyric cargo]

see, alice said CR is too high because they thought it was 79.5% + 30%

but it's 44.7 + 30% 🤔

you changed some pieces, right?

[thorn bay]

Atk is way off so probably

It’s lower in game

[full sonnet]

I had deathmatch on

[lyric cargo]

weapon is another reason to see the card, yeah

[full sonnet]

I was already at 80% crit rate so i had a double em set going

80/200 524em 2k attack if i leveled him to 90

155% er

[lyric cargo]

2pc 2pc?
yeah, that's not worth it

the 4pc effect is too good

[quaint fern]

freeze before they shield up and then skill them fast enough

that's what I did

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow @viral mulch RAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[rugged sparrow]

how the fuck did you go from not clearing

to 111

there has to be some massive adjustments that u made

[near prism]

not really, you either clear with leftover or you dont clear

the last 5-6s of the fight, the field isnt there, so your damage ceases to exist

[rugged sparrow]

so skill issue

[near prism]

especially since it lines up with my rot ending

[rugged sparrow]

but was it the ER sands Furina that made a diff

[near prism]

it helped a bit but it wasnt a huge push

the biggest difference was my execution getting slightly faster and faster to the point where i managed to fit more plunges in the dps windows

[noble niche]

Hey, so durin can give a 75% buff to melt, is he a good unit for melt wrio team?

[near prism]

and my VV refresh being faster

[near prism]

its 70% melt

and its only to durin himself

[rugged sparrow]

I think you need to re-read the passive again

that aside Durin does feel nice for melt Wrio just because his uptime is better than Mav

[noble niche]

Im just going with what i heard, which is why im asking more people bc idk if its right

Thank you

Any of you know wrios best team rn?

[rugged sparrow]

it's a toss up between freeze and melt, pretty sure they're roughly equal at the same investment

actually melt might be better with Durin now

[noble niche]

I need to find someone with c1 wrio and durin to test for me

[rugged sparrow]

does c6 Wrio count

[noble niche]

GIVE

[rugged sparrow]

honestly though I personally prefer freeze Wrio since it's easier and you don't have to adjust your NA string

braindead gameplay

[noble niche]

Lock up your man buddy, im on my way

Ive been using melt this whole times

[rugged sparrow]

melt is finege

but sometimes I just want to turn my brain off and just do n5c

instead of n3dnc

[noble niche]

Does d stand for dash

I dont actually know his rotation

[rugged sparrow]

ye

you can cancel his n4 and go straight to n5 after n3

by dashing

that way you don't mess up with pyro aura so you can melt his CA

which is especially important for c6 Wrio since his CA hits twice

[noble niche]

Running to the guy in inazuma rn

[near prism]

if your durin is c1 or above, yeah

[noble niche]

Im cooked

[rugged sparrow]

[noble niche]

Ill just have to save for durin his next rerun

Bc columbina has been a 3 year wait for me

[rugged sparrow]

I mean Durin is sidegrade to Mav otherwise

so just use Mav in the meantime unless u don't have her too then

or have her on mdps duty

[noble niche]

I have her and her sword

[rugged sparrow]

so mdps duty, got it

[noble niche]

I should go look at her support build

[rugged sparrow]

it's really just 4p Cinder

you can probs stick 4p Codex too and have her melt burst initial hit

[near prism]

which is so funny, i love our little dragon boy, he's so strong

[rugged sparrow]

which is probably the same/better if your Wrio is c0r0

[rugged sparrow]

what Mav could've been...

[near prism]

dark mode durin lowkey mogs mav as a dps too but yall not ready for that conversation /s

[noble niche]

We dont wanna be ready bc its just more spending 😔

[noble niche]

C2 R1

[rugged sparrow]

4p Cinder time

[rugged sparrow]

make Durin the new archon so my asinine teambuilding rule holds pls...

who gave the stage to this bum Mav

[near prism]

[noble niche]

Anyone know the Wrio, xiangling, bennett, and kazuha rotation

[rugged sparrow]

Kazuha won't be doing much there

[lyric cargo]

right, I forgot again

[lyric cargo]

many stygian bosses with weakness passes in a nutshell 🤔

[near prism]

well either way, im glad i finally cleared dire

[rugged sparrow]

you're better off with Sucrose instead of Kaz

[noble niche]

Oh i thought he was one of the good characters to put on his team so much conflicting information

[rugged sparrow]

problem with Kaz is that you can't swirl cryo reliably past 1st rot unless you extend rot

so he's basically there just to buff Xiangling

[noble niche]

Any other characters good for that slot?

[rugged sparrow]

Emilie, Nahida, Sucrose

[near prism]

xilo

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[near prism]

WAIT

[rugged sparrow]

there's also Furinage

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow wrio mona benny durin might be cooking

[rugged sparrow]

they dont have Durin

[lyric cargo]

is that for this abyss? (first side? second side?)

[rugged sparrow]

they're just asking a good Wrio team

[lyric cargo]

yeah, just wondering if they're playing it in context

[near prism]

oh i know, i just jumped to wrio teambuilding in general 😭 das my bad

[rugged sparrow]

though it should end up being good in 1st half, barring 1st chamber

41 mobs with Wrio can't be fun

[lyric cargo]

(asking for someone I know, who already has c5)
does c6 Wrio need more pyro app, in practice? Durin / Mav no longer enough?

[rugged sparrow]

not really no, both are still enough

but doing his dash cancel combo becomes more important

[noble niche]

I can get durin within the day if i did a little bit of grinding

[rugged sparrow]

look at what u did @near prism

u made Columbina simp ditch their savings for Wrio

I wouldn't do it cuz Wrio is mine alone

[near prism]

hey i just wanna add, if you'd pull c0 durin specifically for wrio, dont

he's nice for him but not an upgrade lol

[noble niche]

Any day

If i didnt just get sued and stolen from id spend more for him 👹

[rugged sparrow]

well I ain't letting you

go save for bina

[rugged sparrow]

also for context I'm doing burnmelt

regular melt with non-dendro 4th slot might not be enough/not comfy to play

[noble niche]

Guarenteed with 20 pity and 125 wishes

[rugged sparrow]

[shadow gazelle]

doesnt it apply 3x cryo in a row? N5 into CA 2x hit?

that wont delete pyro aura and apply cryo on the enemy?

HuTaoThink

[rugged sparrow]

it does yes, hence why I followed up with burnmelt note

[shadow gazelle]

oh mb XD

[rugged sparrow]

I've played burnmelt since forever cuz Emilie even prior to c6 Wrio so

[shadow gazelle]

i would personally run wrio, mav, bennet, xilo if xilo was ever free XD

[noble niche]

We need a second xilo

[shadow gazelle]

since she isnt i got emilie so my wrio doesnt get deleted by nahidas burning XD

[rugged sparrow]

need to wait a bit longer

[noble niche]

PLEASE

[shadow gazelle]

yh for context i have a c2 wrio XD

[noble niche]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-26344462

[rugged sparrow]

yeh just testing how it's like w/o burn

[shadow gazelle]

so the pyro is actually enough

[rugged sparrow]

one day they'll make a dendro unit dedicated for burnmelt

[noble niche]

Snezhnaya character for suree

[rugged sparrow]

amen

a dendro char that gains bonus if every member on the team is cryo + pyro excluding him/herself

[noble niche]

When cryo becomes the meta

[rugged sparrow]

at that point freeze will likely be more relevant again and u just pivot back to Escoff

[near prism]

just wrio durin chiori xilo

[rugged sparrow]

is this melt Durin propaganda

[near prism]

yes yes.... durin propaganda....surely...nothing else....

[noble niche]

But listen, hoyo clearly favors pyro 😔

[rugged sparrow]

oh that much is evident

we have hardly any content that counters pyro

[hazy lotus]

i though hydro was hoyos favorite child

[near prism]

i reckon its because pyro is made up almost entirely out of on fielders

countering pyro is bound to make player satisfaction plummet for a few days at least

[rugged sparrow]

hydro is basically just golden child in terms of support I feel like

[rugged sparrow]

mfw the only 5-star pyro off-fielder we get so far is Durin (And Dehya)

[hazy lotus]

true it’s kinda lacking in on fielders

[noble niche]

i agree

[near prism]

hey i know we slander mav and all but she CAN be a decent off fielder

[rugged sparrow]

why is hoyo so obsessed on making pyro on-fielders

[rugged sparrow]

shut

[noble niche]

Ayato, childe and neuv only right??

[rugged sparrow]

Kok can on-field but

only select teams nowadays

also forgetting the

🦈

[near prism]

id argue with how the meta around hydro off fielders developed, this is the role she plays if you play her

[near prism]

SigeWin

[hazy lotus]

maybe columbina will be able to on field if they keep with the harbinger trend

[rugged sparrow]

I'll cut off your fingers one by one

[hazy lotus]

but idk if they count her as a harbinger now anyways

[hazy lotus]

which one would you cut first

[near prism]

you can say what you want but i am a man of my word

[rugged sparrow]

pinky

[noble niche]

They count scara as a harbinger still, i THINK

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[near prism]

dawg she's c0r1 fym whale 😭

[hazy lotus]

having the luxury to drop pulls on sigewinne is whaling

[rugged sparrow]

^

[near prism]

i do not concern myself with pull value, if i like a character, i pull, if i get them, cool

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

hey you know its true

[noble niche]

I did that until yoimiya disappointed me 😔

[rugged sparrow]

void void telling lie?

[near prism]

what??

pull value means nothing for my account ngl 😔

there's only 1 thing i pulled that i wildly regret

[rugged sparrow]

yes, Scaradookie

I'll be the one who remind you everyday

[near prism]

fuckass weapon has been wielder-less for 4 years

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

nah i no (longer) regret wanderer

[rugged sparrow]

whatever copium you're on, pass some to me

[near prism]

i am kind of mad chronicled gave me key instead of his sig but alas

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

dude i dont have ANYONE to give mist to

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[near prism]

is no whale am f2p

[rugged sparrow]

????????

im telling con

[near prism]

tell him what? he knows am f2p dont u @wet plank

[rugged sparrow]

you really BELIEVE he'll side with u

[wet plank]

Bigfar whale

[near prism]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wet plank]

[rugged sparrow]

LMFAO get fke

[wet plank]

Imagine spending primos on resin refresh

[near prism]

tis is propaganda

[rugged sparrow]

con the true f2p

with c6 Furina cuz simp

[wet plank]

[rugged sparrow]

purely from HARDWORK and DEDICATION

[near prism]

LIES

i am f2p tho 😭

[rugged sparrow]

bro u bought packs and welkins

probs more than I do too

[near prism]

LOL, i mean yeah obv im not f2p, but i really dont think i could be considered a whale also fwiw i really dont topup that often

[rugged sparrow]

so whale

[near prism]

i think i topped up twice? once for like 80$ and once for 35$

[rugged sparrow]

@wet plank see

we got him to confess

[near prism]

FINE whatever anyways

@rugged sparrow have you tried wrio durin?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

Mav who

[near prism]

do you vibe with it or nah

[rugged sparrow]

it's a lot comfier than the fraud archon

Mavfraudika

[near prism]

fraudvuika is right there

[rugged sparrow]

nuh uh

[noble niche]

👀

[blazing hill]

Anyone in asia server up rn?
Needed help in stygian

[viral mulch]

yoo nice grats

[buoyant cove]

same omg
i don't have any inazuma characters to put it on

[delicate flare]

What would a decent team for Gaming be. I'm using him with Citlali, and Bennet and what would his third teammate be. Sucrose? How much ER for Citlali and Gaming should be minimum

Right now my Gaming has 46 CRIT rate and 181 CRIT damage. With 139 ER and 1568 atk with 152 em. My

Citlali had 932 EM and 131 ER with sacrificial fragment.

What is Gaming his best artifact set because right now I have him on Marechaussee which I think is Furina exclusive.

My Bennet is wel built and as third teammate I'm not sure

[thorn bay]

Gaming can activate mh by him self

But I don’t like mh as gaming only benefits from the 4pc

Also his best weapon gives 32% cr

20% from c6

[delicate flare]

Is it the fruitful hook weapon you're talking about or

How much ER would he need

[quaint fern]

with bennett 140 should be more than enough if c6

maybe try 150 if not c6ed

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

[meager pendant]

how important is crit on citlali?

[stark garnet]

Since akasha is down, is my stats good???

[viral mulch]

nowhere a priority over er

[crude dirge]

useless unless main dps

[frozen talon]

Idk who to Choose between zibai and neuvi im a beginner and i don't have any good dps and ik i should Choose neuvi cuz he has alot of f2p team comp but i like zibai sooooo bad but i only have enough pull for one 5 ⭐
Help me

[frozen talon]

What did i do

[quaint fern]

what do you know that I dont lil bro

[frozen talon]

Oh

[quaint fern]

anyways neuvi is fine I guess, he's just a wheelchair man now tho

dont expect his f2p teams to be super great if you dont have decent supports for him

we dont know anything about zibai so wait until stream

[frozen talon]

K

[near prism]

Thanks! I'm super satisfied with myself about it

[keen condor]

This abyss has been hell for the first time I can’t 36* (green line means sig yellow 2nd best option) help

Also everyone that’s lv80 is invested in pretty well (talents artifacts and stuff) courtesy to my 18 different emblem sets

[viral mulch]

bro can randomizer and still clear 🥀

[keen condor]

I’m genuinely trying I can’t

[thorn bay]

Bro can solo stuff to clear

[rugged sparrow]

on what chamber are you exactly struggling

[viral mulch]

kinich mavu bennett iansan or neuv furi kazuha xiangling/durin sucrose or arle bennett xiangling kazuha
then second half arle durin/bennett chev fischl or lauma xingqiu kuki(need lv90) flex or gaming citlali bennett xianyun or navia zhongli bennett furina/mavuika or mavuika citlali bennett iansan

[viral mulch]

btw childe is so fun this abyss holy

[rugged sparrow]

41 mobs moment

Riptide go kaboom

[viral mulch]

this cycle makes me appreciate using a normal teams in a game about team combat and not mald myself soloing

[rugged sparrow]

and then 3rd chamber u go womp womp

[viral mulch]

i have a top half run

[rugged sparrow]

u use Durin now right

[rugged sparrow]

does your ult even hit the mek

it's the other way round

[viral mulch]

yea number showed top left

[keen condor]

I am as stubborn as can be so I’m stuck in the first one can’t get 3 stars

[viral mulch]

i told u teams

and slight tip for weasels is geo mc is actually a valid strat

[keen condor]

Okii

[near prism]

KAZE DA
RIPTIDE
chamber ended

[near prism]

i kept waiting for the vape on childe burst on chamber 3 and it never came 😭

[viral mulch]

that was a vape the pyro got applied in the same frame or something

[near prism]

i will not believe you if you told me that was planned

[viral mulch]

just some buffs werent active for him cus mavu took so long

[viral mulch]

nah it defo wasnt

[glacial knoll]

Here I ask once again, last time I asked you guys said to make her "perfect" I need to swap the circlet do I still need to? if so what stats should I pick in the artifact transmuter?

[viral mulch]

perfect raiden of unequipped everything then bench

[hidden ravine]

heard dpsventi team got both bennett and durin, but I got them both on noblesse so are there any alt artifact(or char) that I could change?

[opal surge]

you need so much more crit rate

[glacial knoll]

can a new circlet fix it?

[opal surge]

it will help, your ER is absurdly high and your crit stats are quite low in general

[merry dragon]

Hi can someone help me to understand Crit rate and Crit dmg? What's my Yelan supposed to be hitting? (She hits like 70k-90k sometimes idk y, sorry if poopy build idk what im doing)

[crude dirge]

show an enka network card when talking about builds

[strange scarab]

crit rate is the odds of landing a critical hit, crit damage is how strong your critical hit deals

unless thats not what you were asking

[bright cape]

does razor really do more damage than raiden now?

[arctic apex]

Hey I need an advice, so pretty much those are my 5stars, and I have no clue what I should go for, like I definitely want Columbina in the future, but Idk If I should try go for Durin or Xilonen to "improve" my acc ( I was thinking about Varesa but this im not as up to as for others)

[strange scarab]

well the right answer is always pull whoever you like

[lyric cargo]

people don't usually memorize damage numbers, so most wouldn't be able to answer that

to actually tell if the build is good, you want an enka card (shows everything about the char in one place)

https://enka.network/

to evaluate artifacts, you count the number of useful rolls (or look at the roll value for more accuracy)

generally you pick the pieces with highest number of useful rolls, while trying to balance your crit ratio and having enough ER

your crit rate and crit dmg (...% chance of dealing +...% dmg) can be combined into one number, your "crit multiplier"

if you're comparing two crit ratios, the one with higher crit multiplier is better

a 1 : 2 crit ratio of will result in the highest possible multiplier

for example, 50% chance to deal +100% dmg means a crit multiplier of 1.5

it's 1 + cr * cd

[arctic apex]

I like bina, idrc about other 3 but supports are always good, and cant really decide which one would be better for my acc yk?

[strange scarab]

since bina is not actually out we dont have a say on how good she is for your acc. you'll know once people do have access to her kit

[arctic apex]

I know, but shes the one I'll take one way or another

[lyric cargo]

are there any on-fielders whose teams you want to improve, or who you're planning to get?

I see Nefer and Mavuika, as far as meta teams go. Nefer wants neither, Mavuika can use Xilonen but doesn't have to (Iansan or Sucrose or a second cryo unit are fine, Xilo can be nice for extra comfort. slightly more easily filling the nightsoul bar)

[lyric cargo]

imo this is wrong, it's not always the answer.. only when optimizing for meta and endgame content isn't their goal.

I'd say you can make most recent on-fielders very strong, but you'd want to get the right supports to really make them shine

[arctic apex]

If it comes to team-comps I kinda suck, maybe thats why a lot of 4 stars I have unbuilded yet
Rn if I can I play Mavuika a lot, especially in Abyss or Theatre, and just rn Im focusing on Nefer, which I got bc of Lauma (I dont really wanna play male characters just bc so even if I had Alhaitham.. so yk)

In nearlest future I rly wanna get some electro main dps, thats why I was considering Varesa, but idk.. atp I rather have Clorinde

And all Im focusing rn is mostly characters for end-game content since I have 60 ar and no quests

[lyric cargo]

Mavuika's default team would be:
Bennett, Citlali, Iansan/Sucrose/Xilonen

for Nefer:
Lauma, Aino, Kuki/Nahida/etc

[arctic apex]

Yeah this ik, and is what Im playing on my acc

[lyric cargo]

if you're going for meta, Varesa is probably more recommendable than Clorinde

Durin would have value for you there, as it would free up Mavuika to stay on her own team
Varesa, Durin, Chevreuse, Iansan/Fischl

without Durin, Varesa kinda wants Mavuika for her peak potential team.
But you can also just get him on a rerun if you end up getting Varesa

[arctic apex]

I wasnt thinking about 2 characters before Columbina, because im not a spender, rn I have weeklin for another 56 days +/- + Im guaranteed and around 55 pity

and only way I can get primos, are events, new content or last 2 places in natlan I didn't explore a lot

[lyric cargo]

Skirk showing first how to bypass the shield with freeze, then that it can be bruteforced
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uINMWrDIQJw

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

the dmg check isn't too high for modern DPSes

playing Mua on multiwave aoe is certainly a choice though

[lyric cargo]

plunging off zl pillar?

[rugged sparrow]

nope just straight hitting it

though now that u mention plunging I probs should've done that

[opal surge]

oh are u still looking for a video of arle bruteforcing it?

[rugged sparrow]

it took me like 1.5 Itto ult

[opal surge]

i can record one

[rugged sparrow]

does Klee count for bruteforce

[lyric cargo]

if you have one, then yeah 👍
one of my contacts is convinced they can't do it and have to settle for 34★

that said, I'm not sure I can change their mind even with a video

I should finally go do this theater
use the transient from it on stygian before the artifact farming there ends today

[merry dragon]

im so sorry im still confused i think i the crit multiplier thing down tho. I still have some questions. Can the Crit ratio be more than 1:2, does it HAVE to be exactly 1:2 for optimum dmg? I think my build is like 1: 1.5 (idk man... im bad at maths) cuz its like 80:227.

[rugged sparrow]

80:227 is closer to 1:3

but 1:2 is the most optimal for average DPS yes (until cr caps at 100%, then you pump other offensive stats)

[lyric cargo]

just make sure to take all buffs into account, like the 4pc effect on Sky's Unveiling / Codex / Marechaussee / etc

when in doubt, you can post an enka card here

there are also other things we can spot on it, like weapon choice or underleveled talents

[viral mulch]

this abyss is actually so fun to goof around with weird shit

[exotic nova]

hiii does anyone know the best artifacts for durin dps. I'm running vape with c6 furina

[viral mulch]

emblem

[rugged sparrow]

Albedo lowk goated for this aoe chambers lmao

I'm actually surprised

[lyric cargo]

what team is she on? might need more ER

[rugged sparrow]

scuffed Klee team to bruteforce weasel
Chev isn't even c6

[viral mulch]

this is my first time testing buffed albedo and i am actually shocked at his numbers
this aint albedo

[rugged sparrow]

it's Albedo not Albedon't

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

the dead skull iansan

[rugged sparrow]

intentionally gimping my own Klee team to see how difficult it is to break the shield

which funnily enough, Itto's team still breaks slower I think

someone buff my man

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

clueless

[shadow gazelle]

any idea if em sands is better if i have ineffa + sms giving ~240em

prolly not right?

[viral mulch]

wtf noel

[merry dragon]

Uh idk what im doing but i found my strongest team comp is apperantly baizu (for healing and dendro applicariob), nahida (idk just bc she gives me extra dmg when yelan is on cd, bc of her 1000 em), mauvika [shes not built properly either] (also for extra dmg pair when yelan is on cd).

Do u want me to show u their enko cards too?

Idk i just wanna know what my Yelan dmg is supposed to be hitting.

[rugged sparrow]

wheelchaired by c2 Furi

[viral mulch]

actually i also have a built noelle

doubt itll make into a clip tho cus shes a bum

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

scam with Furi Durin and let them do all the heavylifting

oh yeah I forgot chamber 2 are these

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

speeen

[viral mulch]

wait thats 17k

[rugged sparrow]

whiteblind + def gob

I'm lowk tempted to build Sethos too rn

but my resources are fucking thin and gonna use it for bina

[viral mulch]

sethos was not worth it

[rugged sparrow]

poor man's aggravate DPS

idk why hoyo don't want to make him a utility unit instead of another agg DPS

when we have Cyno Keqing Clor Lisa alrd

[opal surge]

okay i just tried it and like I can do it but not in a time where I would recommend others to do so

if theyre struggling to clear

[late pebble]

Who can use this bow?

[thorn bay]

Oreoron jahoda
Possibly diona
Any off field bow char that scale on atk (and needs er)

Oreoron sig

Faruzan?? But probably better go fav

I mean fav is just overall better I think

[lyric cargo]

you can post a screenshot of your char pool, if you want some team options
here's hoyo's official website for it:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html
(just make sure not to use their share button, just take a screenshot. it gives a 2-column view for some reason.)

[lyric cargo]

--
11 hours 8 minutes until stygian artifact farming ends

(11 + 8 / 60) * 7.5 = 83.5 resin generation

I'll be at I'll be at 115.5 / 120 when it ends. rough.

I guess I'll use 1 fragile and be at 55.5 / 120 instead

[dusky oxide]

how good is wolf fang for durin compared to his sig?

[zinc needle]

ohh thx so much😭 ill prob skip him for now since i can clear endgame contents wo arle im probs saving for bina and ineffa

[valid anchor]

A battle pass alternative.

Technically his 4-star BiS.

Black Sword doesn't fit him too much, but Wolfgang passive is petty good for Durin.

[sterile ruin]

In the spreadsheet, does the order of ≈ matter

That said, i just pulled jade spear, should I just put it on Ineffa or is it better to craft r5 prospector’s shovel, shes in Flins team

[lyric cargo]

I assume it could depend on whoever is inputting the info at the time
it means the damage is about the same, but if they think one is more practical for some reason they might put it first?
I'm just guessing here..

my experience with c6 Ga Ming in a nutshell
15s to do 90% of the enemy's hp, 15 to finish it off and start an awkward second rotation

I tried other cryos to avoid the Lawa jumping out of circle impact (Layla / Kaeya), but it didn't really feel any better

pyro aura ends up taking over at some point, and I can't see the enemy aura. it's bigger than the visible screen area

auto targeting the bokos three times in a row at the end didn't exactly help me, though 😅

[lyric cargo]

I'm stupid, Xianyun is on ttds
I was trying to swirl pyro, but that ends up passing it to Diona

alright, I was finally able to one-rotate the first enemy and clear in time
this was not enjoyable

all to make sure I don't use up units I'll need later and have to start over

[lyric cargo]

getting a full refill on the c5 Wrio I borrowed helped a lot.. the quality of my carries otherwise would've been a lot lower
Gaming would've had to clear another stage, and Fischl Chevreuse as well

[late pebble]

Can someone give me a top tier clorinde team? Furina is c2

[rugged sparrow]

either overload with Durin Fischl Chev or quickbloom with Furina Fischl Nahida

[viral mulch]

oh thanks albedo

hes actually good now gg

[near prism]

All it took was to have his damage more than doubled and to give him a team buff and make his construct unbreakable and make his cons good

[viral mulch]

[crude dirge]

what is event about
dragonspine?

[shell vale]

hii idk what channel i can ask for build but do 1.8k 111% crit rate and 210% crit dmg for clorinde are good also i kinda deal like 10k per hit i really don't know if it's bad or not mostly i saw on content creators deal like 20k

[strange scarab]

use enka.network to show your build

dont overcap on crit rate

[foggy phoenix]

which team is better alre xilonen kazuha bennet or alre bennet durin and xilonen

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/

(actually clickable link, idk why they'd make you type it in / copy it over)

[rugged sparrow]

gonna depends on how invested your Arle/Durin respectively

[lyric cargo]

melt or vape or overload are usually the go-tos. Is this for abyss first half?

[foggy phoenix]

alre is pretty invested

[lyric cargo]

do you own chevreuse?

[foggy phoenix]

i think top 10%

[foggy phoenix]

yes

[lyric cargo]

Arle Durin Fischl Chevreuse

I haven't seen calcs for monopyro, I assume it has to be worse

[foggy phoenix]

i been using that for a while but i just dont like overload

i prefer melt or monopyro

[lyric cargo]

I see

[neon wave]

Bennett should be better than Durin there

[rugged sparrow]

Isnt Kazuha the replacement

[foggy phoenix]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

on initial question

in any case u can just try both teams and see for urself ig

Durin doesnt provide buff and has less shred but makes up with personal DPS

which also gets amped by first half leyline

[foggy phoenix]

im not focused on doing the abyss

only when i have 2 teams viable

for both sides

[rugged sparrow]

what 2nd team do u have in mind

if your 2nd team also wants Bennett u might as well run overload Arle like Hidden suggested

[foggy phoenix]

idk

ik first half is gonna be alre overload but for the 2nd half idk what teams are viable

nor am i gonna pull for varesa

[neon wave]

Arle overload for 12-1 sounds like absolute pain

[rugged sparrow]

plunge is easy mode
otherwise just any team with good dps

[rugged sparrow]

very

[neon wave]

I did Arle Bennett Kazu Durin and it worked okay

[rugged sparrow]

but it's not the worst ig

[foggy phoenix]

idk i havent tried yet

[rugged sparrow]

Im addicted to double geo rn

Durin bedo Xilo

[foggy phoenix]

could these work

[rugged sparrow]

sure

[foggy phoenix]

nvm actually i dont have a weapon for flins

they both share primodial

ima craft the nod krai weapon

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I haven't seen those two teams (Arle Ben Chev Fischl vs Arle Durin Chev Fischl) calc'ed by the same source

I've seen Arle Durin Chev Fischl (99k dps) vs Arle Ben Fischl Mona c2 (95k dps), but that might be more about Chevreuse being good

and I've seen melt at around 103k dps, so I assumed 99k was near the peak of what her overload can do

[lyric cargo]

yeah, single target
I'd probably play Arle second side rather than first, that's why I asked if it's for abyss first half

it sounded like they're trying to make an AoE team

[rugged sparrow]

Arle's aoe isnt so bad though? it should be serviceable

esp how close the 12-1 mob spawns are

[lyric cargo]

hmm, the cryo mages do spawn pretty close together

[rugged sparrow]

overload is making it rough cuz cicin mage if anything

ragdolled to corner of map

[neon wave]

albedo merchants everywhere
you'll never have me

[rugged sparrow]

pull him

[neon wave]

I struggled in 12-1 ngl but arle ended up being better in first half for me
I didn't have many better options though

[foggy phoenix]

i got fucked

[rugged sparrow]

unlucky

[foggy phoenix]

yea right

[lyric cargo]

I don't own Arle and can't properly estimate her AoE performance

what I used was Neuv Furina Lauma Xiangling (with Neuv on p-amber for healing)
but Nahida won't work in multiwave, so that's probably not it for you
maybe Xiangling Durin? 🤔 I might be cooking up something bad here..

Collei could be possible

[foggy phoenix]

im not made of mora