📌gimshim-help

[cinder pendant]

I have fontaine 10% explored too... i think my natlan has 20%

I'll try that 👁👁

[tulip plaza]

can flins nahida furina and Jean do the crab on floor 12 abyss?

like is there any Jean hack for it to cause all of the seeds to gather Or something

[rugged sparrow]

uh

do you not have any other chars built

[tulip plaza]

no other dendro chars are built

[rugged sparrow]

rough

how about the hydro chars

[tulip plaza]

nahida is just on the edge...trying her best

[rugged sparrow]

Furina kinda does nothing for Flins

[tulip plaza]

Have furina Barbara aino xq

[rugged sparrow]

use Aino yes

[tulip plaza]

ohh alright, I thought the furina damage would be good to count

[rugged sparrow]

at the cost of your Flins literally doing half of his dmg

[tulip plaza]

and about the seeds, do they gather with Jean skill?

[rugged sparrow]

no idea

[tulip plaza]

okay I'll try

[rugged sparrow]

just put Aino Q dead in the center or smth

ideally you run 2nd electro but

[tulip plaza]

ohh so flins get more particles or for hyperbloom?

[rugged sparrow]

former

[tulip plaza]

I have fischl but will have to build her cuz Jean doesn't work

[rugged sparrow]

you don't really want hyperbloom with Flins, mostly cuz dendro aura fucks up with hydro aura

no hydro aura = no lunar-charge thunderclouds
no thunderclouds = dont play Flins

[tulip plaza]

ahh alright, can aino help other cause lunar bloom or is that reaction locked with lauma?

[rugged sparrow]

it just sucks cuz crab demands dendro if you can't bruteforce through it

[rugged sparrow]

Aino activates the Nod-Krai resonance

also don't play Flins without 2nd Nod-Krai char

[tulip plaza]

F man everything is interlocked

so fischl flins nahida and aino might work?

[rugged sparrow]

no sustain though
Kuki might be the better fit

[tulip plaza]

yeah will have to build kuki in 9 hours🥲

[rugged sparrow]

well just stick with what you have to clear then

[tulip plaza]

back when I played genshin, Ganyu was good, now all these dendro and electro chars man

[rugged sparrow]

it's just they're being aggressive on shilled content

back then shill was kinda w/e

now it's literally "run this element/gimmick or die"

[tulip plaza]

or run mavuika c6 lmao

[rugged sparrow]

I mean ofc we don't include whaling

[tulip plaza]

true true

[rugged sparrow]

u can make the same case for any other c6 chars since they'll just bruteforce

[tulip plaza]

ohh, but about mavuika is she any good without her supports, I guess citlali plays a big role in those huge numbers

[rugged sparrow]

she has some teams outside premium Mav (Citlali and co.)

but her performance on those teams are nothing to write home about

[tulip plaza]

heard her optimal playstyle was quite weird to get onto

[rugged sparrow]

her strings are kinda fucky if you just want to play casually yea

[tulip plaza]

ahh, arle's better for casuals like me Ig

[rugged sparrow]

definitely ye

[tulip plaza]

nowhere near mavuika but ez af to play

[rugged sparrow]

with good investment/good match up, she can clear Dire Stygian just fine too

with less sweat than performing Mav optimal combo

[rain sierra]

Guys! What is Venti’s best DPS team if you don’t have Durin?

[rugged sparrow]

probs just Venti/Bennett/Faru/Mona

[rain sierra]

Really not Albedo or Fischl? And can Bennet be replaced

[rugged sparrow]

Fischl can replace Mona sure
Bennett cannot be replaced, not even if you have Durin I don't think

[rain sierra]

Ok but out of Albedo, Fischl and Mona who is the best?

[rugged sparrow]

I'd place my bet on Mona, esp if you have high consts on her

[rain sierra]

I have C4

[rugged sparrow]

yeah her c4 gives like 45cv

it's kinda busted

[rain sierra]

Oh right didn’t think of that lol

Fishl gives big ATK buff I think now and Albedo damage buff

[rugged sparrow]

well Mona gives both

just her personal DPS is basically almost non-existent if you build her purely for TTDS + Tenacity bot

[rain sierra]

But I presume her personal DPS doesn’t really matter

[rugged sparrow]

probs not when you consider the amount of buffs she provide

[rain sierra]

I have Amos Bow, Viridescent hunt and R5 rust. Which one do you think I should go with?

[rugged sparrow]

60% dmg (t10+ ult), 48% atk (TTDS), 20% atk (TotM), 45cv (c4) and some minor EM/reaction dmg buff that shouldn't matter too much

[rugged sparrow]

based on build doc, Rust note says it's better than Amos at r5

[rain sierra]

Righto - can’t seem to balance my crit without Viridescent hunt but I think Mona would fix that now

[rugged sparrow]

can probably write off TotM on Mona if you run TotM on Faru
or greed for more buffs with 4p Cinder Faruzan

[lyric cargo]

I'd post a screenshot of your char pool for team suggestions:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html#/ys/role/all

[rugged sparrow]

t1 NA + no TTDS / c4 Mona

also 4p Emblem so

[rain sierra]

Oh yes I have TOTM on Faruzan. Maybe Noblesse on Mona then?

[rugged sparrow]

Bennett already on Noblesse no

[rain sierra]

Oh yeah!

[rugged sparrow]

if you wanna greed for buffs it's 4p Cinder Faru, Noblesse Bennett, and TotM Mona

[rain sierra]

Righto

[rugged sparrow]

but the dmg diff is probably not gonna make/break your run

[rain sierra]

What artifacts on Venti?

[rugged sparrow]

4p Echoes / DPC are the best right now I believe

if you can't be bothered to farm just slap 2p2p atk/anemo dmg%

[rain sierra]

Yeah I have a DPC set but crit is standing at 57.1% crt and 157.2crd

Without Viridescnet

Hunt

[rugged sparrow]

well could be better ig but not the end of the world

[rain sierra]

Yeah I have a far better VV set

But with Mona I think I will hit 72 crit rate

[rugged sparrow]

still not enough all things considered

Faru and Mona also both gives cdmg buffs

[rain sierra]

Oh really

[rugged sparrow]

so your ratio is kinda skewed

[rain sierra]

So do you think I should stick with Viridescent Hunt then?

I will have 84 crit rate

[rugged sparrow]

or farm better pieces

[rain sierra]

😭

lol

[rugged sparrow]

yeah Albedo's not it
either Fischl or Mona
Mona should get better mileage the better invested your Venti is

[rain sierra]

Ok thank you!

Btw would you recommend C4 Mona to be level 90?

[rugged sparrow]

not necessarily, her buff doesn't scale with level other than her burst level, and it's capped at t10 iirc

and with c3 you already have t10 with t7 burst + 3 from const

[rain sierra]

Oh but I should ascend her at 80 so I can crown the burst right?

[rugged sparrow]

no you already have +3 burst level from c3

[rain sierra]

At the moment it’s at 11

[rugged sparrow]

her burst buff is capped at t10

[rain sierra]

Yeah but I can’t take it to 10 until at ascend her over 80 😐

[rugged sparrow]

? you said it yourself your burst is level 11

t8 +3 from const

why would you level it to 10 when it's already t11

[rain sierra]

LOL my bad!!

Burst caps at 10!!

😅😅😅

[rugged sparrow]

yes

90/90 with c3 allows you to level it to 13

due to crowning (t10) + 3 from const

but her burst buff caps at t10

[rain sierra]

Yeah understand now 😅

So out of the weapons I mentioned which weapon would you recommend I go with?

[rugged sparrow]

on whom

[rain sierra]

Venti

[rugged sparrow]

...

[rain sierra]

Rust R5, Amos R1 or Viridescent Hunt

[rugged sparrow]

just stick with VHunt until you have better ratio

[rain sierra]

Cool!

[rugged sparrow]

they're only 1 ranking apart (assuming Rust is r5) so I doubt the dmg diff is gonna matter a lot, eitherway

[rain sierra]

Oh ok fair enough - thanks for the help really appreciate it

[honest heart]

wassup long time

anyways @lyric cargo

[thorn bay]

Dang

[honest heart]

first is SSoS

[honest heart]

2nd is Homa, which one

[bright cape]

need a surfboard

[thorn bay]

1st one looks better

I don’t really know

[lyric cargo]

do you have enka cards?
in terms of crit ratio, 100 : 199.6 should handily beat 79.7 : 203.5

[honest heart]

yea hold on

i dont got the homa one yet

[rugged sparrow]

holy HP subs

[lyric cargo]

oh, it's shime

[bright cape]

is EM necessary for hu tao?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[lyric cargo]

she does vape her CA hits

[bright cape]

i mean as mainstat on sands

[rugged sparrow]

yes

she can vape all her CAs

[lyric cargo]

afaik, her hp% scaling is better than her atk% scaling, but I'm not sure how good it actually is

[honest heart]

yea the only thing left is to learn N2cd

[rugged sparrow]

it is better yes

[lyric cargo]

I seem to recall someone saying she doesn't scale as well with it as someone like Yelan

[rugged sparrow]

I mean she converts HP to atk

[lyric cargo]

so that should give EM sands a push

[rugged sparrow]

comparing it to pure HP scaler is kinda

[honest heart]

her Hp scaling caps at 30k

[lyric cargo]

yeah, question is how good the conversion rate actually is

[lyric cargo]

oh

[bright cape]

oh ok. otherwise ur hp sands on akasha is pretty good

i think u should use optimizer

[honest heart]

currently with em sands dual hydro gives me 32khp so its ight

[rugged sparrow]

where'd you get this number

[honest heart]

her skill info tells her maximum atk bonus is 500% base atk

so at 90/90 she caps taht 500% atk gain at 30k hp,

[rugged sparrow]

ok now break down the math for me

what

[honest heart]

400% mb

[rugged sparrow]

400% base atk cap, and she converts 6.26% (t10) of her max HP as atk

at 30k HP she gets 1878 atk

her base atk with SoSS is 648

in what world 1878 = 648 x 4

[honest heart]

i dont think its like that

[rugged sparrow]

how come

[honest heart]

i remember someone gaive me the proper calculation its just that its been a long time

[rugged sparrow]

well I'm helping you do the math now instead of whatever calc you "remembered" from long time ago

and the numbers don't match

[small blade]

[honest heart]

well my memory dog shit so maybe some changes hapaned over the time

and i found it the cap is 45k hp

[rugged sparrow]

there's no changelog about her numbers changing

[honest heart]

i ment my memory

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

with Homa yes
with SoSS it's 41k

[opal surge]

youre never hitting HP cap on hutao

its not something worth thinking about

[rugged sparrow]

ye im just wondering how'd they get 30k as cap

[opal surge]

just got misinfod at some point probably

my ht is 32k hp before hydro resonance im cooked

[rugged sparrow]

EM modcheck

[rugged sparrow]

did some math and t10 Tao gets around 450 atk with HP sands

though pretty sure the only scenario where you'd consider HP sands Tao is when you're using DBane

[bright cape]

we don't have 5 star polearm with em mainstat

[rugged sparrow]

for good reason ig

else Xiangling will claim another

[bright cape]

dragon's bane too op

[rugged sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[haughty lotus]

[shadow gazelle]

mind sending an enka card of the homa build?

[honest heart]

give me 3 mins

[honest heart]

bad circlet

[opal surge]

i think you use it on every EM weapon

fjords soss and dbane

if I remake my sands in optimizer and make it EM with 1 hp sub it gets washed even though I dont have that much EM

[honest heart]

wow

i also wanted a MH set for her

but sadlyall my double crit arnt giving me enough CR

and none of them have even base hp%

[crude dirge]

oh right i can use mh on hu tao

[bright cape]

x40?

[crude dirge]

but she will be better on my shim whenever i get her

i want hutao now

[rugged sparrow]

eh even SoSS?

also I totally forgot about Fjords

[honest heart]

alr guys i tested

uhh SSoS underperforms very badly compared to my homa build

i did the hydro local legend rotation is xilonen e, zhongli hold e (so i dont die)
SSoS gave 67.6k vape
Homa gave 89.9k vape

[rugged sparrow]

I was gonna say

[opal surge]

im not actually too sure maybe not soss

[rugged sparrow]

"perform badly and they're gonna see damage per vapes instead of avg"

[opal surge]

SoSS unfortunately is a bit bricked for any tao sheet i did

because i just do MH

[rugged sparrow]

and they indeed looked at individual vapes dmg instead of avg

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[honest heart]

alr then average it

[opal surge]

its technically like 41 but yeah we'll count it as 40

because atk and flat atk are both like half an hp substat

[honest heart]

theres a near 23k dmg gap for a loss from 103 cr to 79.4 cr

[rugged sparrow]

you have 1/5 chance of missing your crit on the 79.4 cr (if we round it up to 80)

[opal surge]

one day ill get a better sands on scroll so I can have a 45 sub set

[honest heart]

god who is this on 🙏

[opal surge]

citlali

[honest heart]

my citalai is in smucks

[bright cape]

dpslali

[crude dirge]

citlali built better than main dps

[shadow gazelle]

this is only slightly worse than the SoSS on average

if you had a better circlet it could definitely be better

[honest heart]

alr then lets assume a normal CA spam insted of N2cd, in her skill time you can do about 8~9 of them, lets take 9 here,
assuming the 1/5th is not crit ill take it as only 7 crits
therefore 89.9 k x 7 = 629.3k
and then ssos crits all 9 times
being 67.7k x 9 = 609.3k

but i didnt add the 2 non crits to Homa yet and its still higher hmm???

ofc this wont hold true all the time

[rugged sparrow]

[honest heart]

but average is higher

[shadow gazelle]

wait nvm this is slightly better on average

[honest heart]

with a dogshit circlet too 💀

i mean em is nice but no CD

[rugged sparrow]

have you considered that Homa ranks higher on Tao than SoSS so there's a clear advantage
let alone the fact that 609k vs 629k is less than 9% diff (using your example)
"massively underperforming" my ass

[honest heart]

i didnt take the 2 uncrit into account and i never said "massively underperforming" i just stated each damage

you just assumed i though like that

cmon man

[rugged sparrow]

that's not how u count the avg btw

[honest heart]

your arguement is useless i never complained i just stated each performance after testing

[rugged sparrow]

???

actually daft

[opal surge]

your SoSS build should be ahead

igore everything on this sheet except the final stat bracket top left

and the DPR number bottom right

wait no i forgot weapon passives lule

sec

[honest heart]

its ight i saw the numbers

319somthing for homa, 321somthing for ssos

[rugged sparrow]

Homa should still pull ahead by the virtue of it being a better weapon (for Tao)

[opal surge]

homa

sosss

your homa build is ahead by like 2,2%

but its her sig so

[honest heart]

i see

[rugged sparrow]

which is exactly my point
why are you saying it "massively underperforms"

[honest heart]

i mean my circlet has no CD tbh

[rugged sparrow]

I think you overvalue cdmg

esp. when u dont even have 100% cr

[honest heart]

alr then thats my mistake i didnt see i mentioned that there

[honest heart]

i didnt its only 4% more

even i know its not much

i was checking weapon

[honest heart]

i probably wont ever get 100% but ill try for 85% max for homa

its hard to replace my other artifacts

unles i get super lucky

[rugged sparrow]

EM over cdmg is roughly less than 0.5% diff in double hydro tao setup

[opal surge]

pull furina and play mare

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

trueing

[crude dirge]

by how much is lumidouce worse than homa

[shadow gazelle]

optimizer says a bit more unless i missed smth

[honest heart]

my MH set has soo many atk% but no hp% at all so its kinda hard to get hp for hutao (i do have c2 furina)

substats

literly i cant find any of them

[crude dirge]

I WISH I HAD THAT PROBLEM

[honest heart]

if they are, its wither atk goblet or def sands

[rugged sparrow]

something something elixir, something something dust of life

or just marinate yourself in MH/GT domain for good few months

[crude dirge]

my recent mh pieces all have 15% or 20% hp sub

[rugged sparrow]

Stygian is also on-going rn

[honest heart]

i did that for both shime and MH my arti luck is garbage

[crude dirge]

how many years were u in shim domain

[rugged sparrow]

well there's a way to circumvent bad arti RNG now

[honest heart]

200 days

[rugged sparrow]

somewhat

[honest heart]

aprox may be more

and i only gotten like2 em sands

[rugged sparrow]

atp just craft

[honest heart]

the one i have rn is crafted

[rugged sparrow]

EM main stats is ass to farm

[honest heart]

i did give up

[rugged sparrow]

so you chose to craft a Shime sands instead of MH

[shadow gazelle]

i missed passives + skill wasnt active. this should have everything correct tho

[honest heart]

imma keep her shime for the love of it

[rugged sparrow]

fair enough

[honest heart]

cause even if any hp MH comes its gonna be for neuvi

imma drop this here cause idk what else to do about this

other than talents and asention

[rugged sparrow]

atk gob

[honest heart]

ohh yea forgot about that

MH only gave me physical

[rugged sparrow]

that's really the only issue, everything else looks fine
idr how much cr Fruitfull Hook give

[shadow gazelle]

im personally farming the nodkrai dps set to run hu tao, ineffa, yelan, columbina/aino

[honest heart]

does that work tho?

[rugged sparrow]

in theory it works

[honest heart]

but wait what??

[crude dirge]

arent u overcapping

[honest heart]

i am over capping by a lot

[crude dirge]

lvl 80 fruitful hook

[honest heart]

iam getting 80cr normaly

[crude dirge]

just use cw

[opal surge]

it works like this

[shadow gazelle]

yh 2 nodkrai chars gives the set bonus of 30%cr and ineffa buffs hu tao with ~120em

[rugged sparrow]

they're not overcapping

well they overcap by 1.4%

[honest heart]

if r5 fruitfull its gonna be 96 cr

[rugged sparrow]

but that's not "a lot"

36 MH + 20% c6 Gaming + 24% r3 Fruitful

actually no that's 11.4%

[honest heart]

+31.4

[crude dirge]

just use cw

[rugged sparrow]

or LNO

[honest heart]

no artifacts at all

[rugged sparrow]

[crude dirge]

wait was fruitful hook giving so much

[rugged sparrow]

yes

it's a stupid weap for plong

[crude dirge]

he will still overcap on cr

[honest heart]

yes i know

[crude dirge]

and xianyun gives 4-10 cr

[honest heart]

currenly spending all resin to get a harmonic set so i can stop using glad on arle

[rugged sparrow]

light blue being Aino's dmg share true

[opal surge]

its true

this is also neuvilettes pie

[rugged sparrow]

Neuv gets smaller share

he's been Ayato'fied

"I sentence you to be a hydro on-field driver"

[opal surge]

Inser the "Neuvilette is balanced around his ability to apply hydro clip"

[rugged sparrow]

I'm actually curious what's the DPS diff between Ayato and Neuv on that NK wheelchair team

but ig Ayato forces 20s+ rots so numbers are kinda against him

[honest heart]

just play who you like

as long as they can clear, they can clear

[rugged sparrow]

"play who u like"
gets hit by dendro crab in abyss

[crude dirge]

ayato will just be battery for columbina

[rugged sparrow]

that or honse

[crude dirge]

unless she uses other energy

[honest heart]

that was painfull even with lauma idk why

[rugged sparrow]

Lauma should trivialize crab

[crude dirge]

how about geo wolf

[honest heart]

well i just straped EM to her and said bay bay

[crude dirge]

havent seen him in a while

[rugged sparrow]

wolf lord HP is ridiculously low for abyss standard

(at least when he was around)

the main concern is just bringing 1 geo

[crude dirge]

0 rotations one shoted by mavuika ecisting

[rugged sparrow]

ye not to mention it doesn't go to shield phase immediately

[crude dirge]

lvl 20 ningguang

[rugged sparrow]

most modern teams can one rotate it with good RNG (assuming HP stays the same)

[crude dirge]

they can make him do that

[honest heart]

bro i hate my delma with my mavuika, i got such a sands i cant replace it, and because of it im underperforming ;-;

[crude dirge]

dont give them ideas

[rugged sparrow]

that's what my friend did

TTDS Petra lv20 Ning

[crude dirge]

for some reason i have petra atk sands with 16 cr and one other roll (not double crit) and i dont remember how i got them

[rugged sparrow]

EM modcheck

[honest heart]

sands almost unreplacable i even crafted an EM sands too

it rolled shit

[crude dirge]

she will miss crit every hit

[rugged sparrow]

it's 99.4% cr effectively though

[honest heart]

tf??

bro forgot set bonus

[crude dirge]

xiao with 40 cr crits more often than mavuika with 99.8

[rugged sparrow]

if you're playing melt, I believe EM sands will still pull ahead despite being a couple subs behind

[crude dirge]

thats not how the game works

[rugged sparrow]

"if it's not 100% it's 50:50" ahh argument

[crude dirge]

if u have obsidian codex it shows u chance of missing crit

thats how the game coded

[honest heart]

thats what people said tbh i tried it idk let me put the em sands on first

[crude dirge]

i think mavuika needs 120 for her to crit consistently

[rugged sparrow]

don't get me started

[crude dirge]

emblem of severed fate nuke mavuika when

[honest heart]

i hate that set

never gave me anything usefull other than the use as offpeice circlet

[rugged sparrow]

@opal surge

[crude dirge]

for some reason i have amazing pyro goblets on both shim and emblem

but no good atk sands on shim or cr circlet on emblem

[rugged sparrow]

what the fuck is this @opal surge

4p Ins Cit

badly cropped

[honest heart]

dam you didnt know

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-jam-baby-clapping-yay-ugly-ass-baby-gif-8846854627430757659

[rugged sparrow]

tell me what I don't know

[opal surge]

Average mimee leaderboard

Theoretically ceiling

[rugged sparrow]

I was trying to see Mav lb to see how atk sands fare
then checked the rotation/team assumption

4p Ins Cit

[honest heart]

this is with that em sands

[rugged sparrow]

does Mimee just think everyone can magically conjure 230+ ER on Citlali with 4p Ins + TTDS

[honest heart]

day one player mentality

[rugged sparrow]

not even day one player mentality

it's just fucked because it's very improbable

[honest heart]

thats why i have ttds lanyan

ofc not for mav

[rugged sparrow]

230 ER Cit with 4p Ins would need all 4 instructor pieces to perfect ER roll everytime

give or take 1 low roll, I'm too lazy to count

310+ cv ahh assumption

[opal surge]

All this just to be only marginally ahead of ins Xilonen anyway

Which is trivial

[honest heart]

well akasha gave it that with my porevious atk sands i melt more than with my current em sands

[opal surge]

But knowing mimee he would've had ins Xilonen with 100% ins uptime on Mav uptime

If he had done ins Xilonen instead

[tardy creek]

Help, how do i beat the damn horse on 12-2?

[rugged sparrow]

considering how your cr also drops, it'll probably influence the result too

[honest heart]

hold up let me open my calculaetor and put em sands

[rugged sparrow]

I'd use Xq instead of Ororon
infuse electro on honse then just ram it down with hbloom

[honest heart]

ill know actual crit

[tardy creek]

ok i'll try it now

[rugged sparrow]

you can do Xq E to give hydro aura around your char > hug horse with Kuki E and just spam NA with her > proc EC occasionally to infuse electro on it

Yelan + Xq also works if you don't wanna handle Furina's HP drain
probs not worth the hassle if Furina is only c0
unless ofc Furina is c1+ or smth

[honest heart]

alr @rugged sparrow i used calculator and my current em sands does better average as well.

compared to the stacked atk sands

[rugged sparrow]

time to just re-roll that sands or wait till u get 4-starter ig

though that sands is 3 useful subs so

[near prism]

@viral mulch @rugged sparrow getting really close

[rugged sparrow]

what's that hydro aura doing there

are u doing Furi Varesa

[honest heart]

but its 4 upgrade points and my next reroll gaurentees 4 upgrads into selected

should i do it?

i pray it goes 4 into CR then i can swap circlet

welp

[rugged sparrow]

up to you ig? like how much you value each char

[near prism]

fur varesa xy ineffa yeh, is my best team out of my left options

[rugged sparrow]

OL somehow worse?

[honest heart]

i mean i value mav a lot so i probably will reroll it

[rugged sparrow]

wait you dont have c6 Chev

[honest heart]

cya anyways gonna selpp

[rugged sparrow]

sure means it'll be guaranteed to roll all crit

[near prism]

wee considering durin is busy, chev is c2, and iansan is also c2

im not surprised

[rugged sparrow]

fair enough

[near prism]

also i found something out @rugged sparrow

[rugged sparrow]

what did u find

oh btw did u see my ping yesterday

[near prism]

varesa plunes so much here that my xy can get burst without ever skilling, so i can use skill as a vv refresh, or just NA

[rugged sparrow]

?

[near prism]

which one?

[rugged sparrow]

HP particles moment

[near prism]

r2 xianyun sig be giving energy

[rugged sparrow]

oh that

[near prism]

nah is the sig

[rugged sparrow]

Lan Yan x c1 Durin

I'm just wondering how much DPR she does by just E-ing twice

[near prism]

ah yeah thats pretty strong, frontloads loads of durin c1 procs in a short time

[opal surge]

it spawned under me what the helly

[rugged sparrow]

atk/anemo/crit angle

one with the leyline

traveler has now assimilated with teyvat

@near prism trying to find a 4th slot for Emilie Klee Durin other than Bennettge

Layla unironically feels nice

[near prism]

shield+some buffs, i imagine

[near prism]

speaking of lanyan, she could unironically work very well here

[rugged sparrow]

ye the IR is nice so I can turn my brain off further

oh yeah she does

[near prism]

your durin c1 too right?

[rugged sparrow]

it's just I'm trying to somehow greed a char that can buff both Emilie + Durin + Klee at the same time

[near prism]

[rugged sparrow]

ye

Lan Yan only buffs Durin + Klee so sad
Layla buffs all 3 by the virtue of Tenacity but I want more

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-black-cat-cattok-cat-tiktok-gif-16975015739671408900

can they not make another char
"if enemies are burning, they die"

[near prism]

ughhhh so close

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

this is defo doable right?

is way too close to not be

[rugged sparrow]

reminds me of my Raiden during LDS SO

it was also that close but I just couldn't

actually what sets are you using on each of them @near prism

[near prism]

codex/gt/vv/sms

didnt change builds

[rugged sparrow]

how likely it is that u clear with Tenacity Furina

[near prism]

idk honestly

but i dont like changing builds uhuhuh

[rugged sparrow]

a fucked idea is just running 4p Nob Furina + 4p TotM Ineffa

or 4p Cinder on someone

[near prism]

hold the phone i got a codex set for ineffa maybe

not codex, scroll*

[rugged sparrow]

CODEX INEFFA

🗣️ 🔥

her true set tbh, she's Natlanese originally

[near prism]

hm, i do have scroll but its electro gob

ill give it a try

not like her buff is worth anything here

[rugged sparrow]

actually do u not have Ororon

[near prism]

i do but c5 uhuh

[rugged sparrow]

do u also have Elegy...

[opal surge]

tom furina on 600% atk buff boss

[rugged sparrow]

do they explicitly say 600% atk somewhere actually

I couldn't find it in-game

[opal surge]

well

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

I wouldnt know if it was stated in game

[rugged sparrow]

in any case

Ororon on Cinder angle

or well, Iansan should still be the play if not him

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow scroll ineffa defo an upgrade even w elec gob LOL

[rugged sparrow]

I actually dont know Ineffa's personal in that kind of team

[rugged sparrow]

do it for your first Dire clear...

[near prism]

yah im trying rn

[near prism]

is actually kinda similar still

[rugged sparrow]

try Ororon angle...

surely 28% more dmg is gonna cut it

[near prism]

surely

ill try ig

[rugged sparrow]

how fucked would it be if Kaz > Xianyun though

[near prism]

no shot

no healer

[rugged sparrow]

oh right you're running Furina

[opal surge]

xilo

[rugged sparrow]

pamber Varesa surely

isn't Xilo used for his top half

well *baptist

[opal surge]

I dont know

[sick quarry]

How do I unlock this chest?

[opal surge]

whats the location

[rugged sparrow]

new abyss reset in 53 mins

[near prism]

ororon got about as close

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

granted hes lvl 70 cuz i dont have his c6 :defsti:

[rugged sparrow]

I doubt him being 90 would make a huge diff

[near prism]

lemme see what i can do for totm neffa

not neffa, furi

[rugged sparrow]

I think totm is gonna be a lot worse

oh u mean on Furi

[near prism]

i can give her my layla stuff

[opal surge]

wait ororon got close

do u not just clear with fischl then

if u snapshot buff for oz always

[rugged sparrow]

I was thinking of Fischl too but the thought of Fischl with 4p Cinder makes me wanna hurl

[opal surge]

nah just normal fischl

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow hp/hp/hp, surely this is okayge

[rugged sparrow]

how the fuck are you getting triple HP with good ratio

[near prism]

LOL

[rugged sparrow]

also 167 ER

[near prism]

is favge

[rugged sparrow]

is that even enough

[near prism]

is fine yeah

[rugged sparrow]

I did 200 with Fav and still a bit short during my Xianyun shenanigans

[near prism]

hmmm

[rugged sparrow]

ig electro reso but I didn't expect it to be crazy good

[near prism]

well, we'll see i suppose

hm, totm furi+sms ineffa not doing it, might need both

ill try both

[rugged sparrow]

WHY DID U TRY ONE OR THE OTHER INSTEAD OF BOTH FIRST

[near prism]

dawg

[near prism]

ok this is the way to victory, its SO close

[rugged sparrow]

well worst comes to worst u run Fischl like Sensi suggested

and snap Oz

though that's like +1s or +2s rotation length

[near prism]

idk man... i dont see fischl here

[bright cape]

i see many getting dire clears this stygian

[opal surge]

well you only have to clear 2 and not 3 chambers this dire

and last one one too fwiw

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow oh my god i got it to half this

[rugged sparrow]

what the helly

[trail nymph]

Do I save for Columbina to go with Lauma and Nefer, or pull Durin for Mualani/other teams? I'm 77/90 pity and guaranteed after losing the last 50/50

[rugged sparrow]

Durin isn't exactly a stellar choice for Mua

[left horizon]

is this build alright? ignoring the talents

[rugged sparrow]

but depending on other teams, he's definitely a good pull
and we have 0 info on what Columbina does to recommend her, but considering it's for Lauma + Nefer, odds are she'll work well with them

[left horizon]

her hp goes over 40k in my team *

[rugged sparrow]

if you're strictly using her in monohydro team(s) or where she can burst every rotation reliably sure, crit ratio is a bit fucked but it is what it is

otherwise 50 ER is just

0 ER subs, purely just from main stats

[left horizon]

its my neuvi team with xilo neuvi furina and fischl

[rugged sparrow]

yeah on Neuv team her ER req is on the lower end, should be fine

[left horizon]

alright thanks

[rugged sparrow]

build can be better ofc but it should function just fine

[bright cape]

venti shilling.

is the new one tough?

[rugged sparrow]

felt easy but it could just be me kinda abusing the buffs too

no Herra at least

vile creature

[granite vector]

guys im seeing conflicting opinions online, which is better for klee, klee vape/kleerina with klee, albedo, furina and xilonen or is it overload with klee fischl chev bennet/durin or if its not either what is her best team

[viral mulch]

i learned that against mavu bobik will hit me before the attack even starts

[rugged sparrow]

[valid anchor]

you can go ahead and use witchy vape with Klee and Mona.

[rugged sparrow]

thats for ridiculing him the other day

[viral mulch]

i think i understood why

its saw attacks has pma logic where if the boss decides its gonna do those attack then the hitbox of the entire attack is created in its path first then the attack animation happens

so even if it didnt actually start sawing yet the hitbox is already there

and because mavu is a jank char her hitbox during ca has very high chance to intersect with it

[rugged sparrow]

makes sense

fucking PMA and its sword attack

[viral mulch]

the solution i found (just as jank) is to let her to the ca finisher when its doing the saw attack cus that actually locks her hitbox into mavu midair

get a no hit solo run with this one trick!

[rugged sparrow]

WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

[viral mulch]

i got it already

[rugged sparrow]

also how's the roadkill experience on first chamber

riveting 11 CA gameplay

[viral mulch]

isekaied some cicin mages with it

[rugged sparrow]

got rat'd

[viral mulch]

run can defo be better but its first day so i chill

[rugged sparrow]

Im gonna be stuck on MonHun later
update also drops today

cant really test other teams cuz Im curious how restrictive Bobik is

[viral mulch]

nice

[viral mulch]

i tried klee the gauge was filled in like 5s

[rugged sparrow]

the non crit on flying drake

painge

[viral mulch]

"man should i reset"
"nah imma just practice second half might as well"
clears

[rugged sparrow]

for being a plunge shield, that gravity clanker sure takes a while to get its shield broken

as fast as my Furi just plunge spamming

[viral mulch]

i shoulda just jump plunge spammed more lmao

[rugged sparrow]

kinda weird design choice considering it's supposed to shill Varesa

[viral mulch]

while goofing around i also did get a skirk solo so thats on the to do list

[rugged sparrow]

hE Q shenanigans

[viral mulch]

they already used the big boi on stygian so only option left fr

altho ngl i fully expected the peak local legend to be in for varesa shill

[rugged sparrow]

pls no lmao

I'm already kinda ??? by the random hydro phantasms

[viral mulch]

yea idk why those are there

[near prism]

oh about this....

good chance c0 durin is BiS or at the very least a sidegrade to mav

[rugged sparrow]

"ok we make a half for plunge shill"
"ok"
"add the volcano weasels"
"makes sense"
"now add hydro phantasms"
"???"

[rugged sparrow]

genuinely how

[viral mulch]

ig they just threw em in like throwing in fat fuck or pma

[near prism]

personal damage goes crazy 😭

[rugged sparrow]

fat fuck was at least on Arle shill

[near prism]

also with durin you can run hex mona and still have xilo

[viral mulch]

if u think abt it the natlan pillar robot is like the shill monster for second half banners but they didnt put it

[near prism]

hex mona is currently like the golden standard for mua teams, you either do mona+sucrose+mav or mona+durin+xilo

[rugged sparrow]

fair

[rugged sparrow]

tripod be damned

[viral mulch]

doesnt durin have issue like messing with second rot setup and shit

for mua

[lyric cargo]

promoting Durin Varesa teams over Furina Xianyun?
but it's not like you won't clear them with Furina on your team

[rugged sparrow]

1st half is supposedly Venti Durin shill

[viral mulch]

oh yea u know cool part

despite being plunge shill xianyun cant solo cus geo shield

[near prism]

in what sense?

[viral mulch]

so thanks bois

[rugged sparrow]

cinema

[viral mulch]

like hydro app before xilo
doesnt durin q last too long

[near prism]

if you mean removing hydro aura, i think thats why xilo is there?

[near prism]

applies every 2.5s and mona apps like thrice during her field time, i think you're fine

though i cant say i checked myself, but i imagine its fine

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

u can skip Mona E too and run an adjusted rot

funneling Mua E

[viral mulch]

idk i try my best to not use mua unless absolutely needed

[rugged sparrow]

(who the fuck makes Mua E like 6s CD)

[viral mulch]

natlan moment

[rugged sparrow]

while Kinich is like 20s

[viral mulch]

technically kinich only has like 7s after full combo

[near prism]

all i know is mona is goated for mua

but hex mona is kinda just goated everywhere

[rugged sparrow]

yeah but Mua is 6s after running out

regardless how long

NEED A SUR-

[viral mulch]

cant give kinich that good of a deal

[rugged sparrow]

bricking his Cinder setup with Iansan as solo dendro

🥀

[viral mulch]

they can cope with the 6e everytime scam sheet

[near prism]

emilie is the biggest qol upgrade ever to kinich tbh

[rugged sparrow]

wrong

[near prism]

6e is like barely doable even with full burn uptime no?

[rugged sparrow]

Emilie is the biggest qol upgrade for Klee

[viral mulch]

hence why its cope and scam

[near prism]

ah

[near prism]

btw i got super close to dire clear but i took a break for today

[viral mulch]

o

ur getting there trust

[near prism]

about half of this remaining hp 🥀

didnt get to screenshot cuz i was too locked in

[viral mulch]

oh wtf

ur actually almost there

[near prism]

yeh

[rugged sparrow]

he had to run totm rina and cinder Ineffa

bleak times

[near prism]

btw i checked the furi build

[viral mulch]

makes sense tbh

[near prism]

twas 215 cv on hp/hp/hp

[viral mulch]

i run full atk scroll esco lmao

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

dont give me that you know why that is

[rugged sparrow]

I know thats why

[viral mulch]

my furi only got 253 er

[rugged sparrow]

disgusting

[viral mulch]

at least like 95cr for favmaxxing

[rugged sparrow]

void's Furi at 160 ER

idk how he burst every rot on that team

[viral mulch]

how does that function in stygian

[rugged sparrow]

ask him??

[near prism]

btw @viral mulch i found something funny

because my xy sig is r2, i can just spam plunge and not have to do xy E for energy

the refund from her sig is enuf

[viral mulch]

[near prism]

tho i still use her E for vv refresh

[rugged sparrow]

dont u also need to refresh the sig buff too

if just VV u coulve just NA

[near prism]

yeh

[rugged sparrow]

or straight Q actually for heals

[near prism]

i E at the start of the chamber for initial energy

and then E again for vv refresh

[rugged sparrow]

how does ur Furi get energy though

[near prism]

favge

[rugged sparrow]

160 ER

thats 0 sub

or 1 idr ur exact numbers

but post your run

or im calling it fraud

[near prism]

fwiw it is a bit rough on the ER

its usually a bit rng reliant

[rugged sparrow]

get ER sands then u animal

it's prob your dealbreaker ngl

[near prism]

i dont think i afford the luxury of not forcing as much damage as i can

[viral mulch]

maybe thats the last puzzle piece towards victory
cast burst everytime without timeloss

[rugged sparrow]

^

[near prism]

[rugged sparrow]

I mean without actual run footage

[near prism]

maybe, idt i have a totm er sands though

[rugged sparrow]

cant really analyze what went wrong

[rugged sparrow]

whats ur off-piece

[near prism]

gob

though i do have a super cdmg heavy on set hp gob

[rugged sparrow]

no hp totm gob?

atp just run cr circ no

[near prism]

well either way ill try it again tomorrow

[rugged sparrow]

unless no on-set

[near prism]

btw @rugged sparrow im honestly just super satisfied chiori could clear baptist

[rugged sparrow]

wheres my Escoff...

[near prism]

fuck biscoff she's a fraud
i used chiori mona durin xilonen

[rugged sparrow]

Wrio match up giga bricked without freeze on baptist

[near prism]

where furina, citlali and escoffier failed, mona prospered

the hierarchy is clear

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-mona-genshin-impact-mona-tcg-gif-18153830367074608318

it is as the stars foretold

[rugged sparrow]

dont make me try some fucked Wrio team on baptist

[near prism]

IT IS AS THE STARS FORETOLD

[rugged sparrow]

no

[viral mulch]

wrio solo on baptist

[rugged sparrow]

u barely clear Fearless

[viral mulch]

yea shit was hard

[rugged sparrow]

Escoff where....

[nimble scroll]

for plunge/vape barbara, is xiangling still the best pyro? saw some folks swapping xiangling for durin in other vape teams, anyone know how it would do in barbara plunge team?

[valid anchor]

Durin can be a safe bet sometimes.

[lyric cargo]

when applying pyro aura, the only thing Xiangling has going for her is application frequency
so you can try it, and if hydro aura doesn't take over then you're fine

hydro on pyro is a forward reaction, meaning it will remove all of the pyro aura on the enemy
if you apply hydro again before pyro is reapplied, then hydro takes over and it will be the pyro unit vaping

[near prism]

@viral mulch @rugged sparrow I got literally a pixel away 💔

But atleast this confirms to me it's possible

[viral mulch]

bro is 1 flat atk sub away 🥀

[near prism]

Half a flat atk sub honestly

BUT it can be done, I'm sure of it

I swapped furi to an er sands too, it helped slightly but not enough

[viral mulch]

now all u need is power of friendship and mald

[near prism]

Lend me your power people of natlan I have to clear dire

[viral mulch]

[keen willow]

??? Where tf did i hit 620k

[rugged sparrow]

probs on cryo slimes in f11

[keen willow]

Unlikely, i probably didn't get the citlali buff

Or kazuha tf

[honest heart]

using SSoS as a statstick good?

dont realy have any free 5 star weapons, pjws is on my escoffer

[hazy lotus]

it’s fine yeah pjws might be better as a general weapon esp if ur not playing her in reaction teams but your build with ssos is pretty good quality and more balanced than it would be with pjws unless you have a good cr circlet so

[violet cipher]

What's the strongest team I can use to fight the Iktomisaurus? Do any of them involve Venti?

[honest heart]

actualy vent is best agaisnt that thing XD

if you built him as dps with his new buff

tho i see you dont got durin, but as long as you can put hexeri buff with goodsubdps i think you should be fine

[hazy lotus]

u can also cheese it with jean as u can see from her being in the exalted lineup

[honest heart]

this too, i did this one

but c1 jean

[violet cipher]

I could ig. Unfortunately I don't have Durin-like you said and I don't think I have C6 Faruzan. I'll think about weird Jean team. Jean should be I think c4

[honest heart]

actualy

how can you not do with chasca

she should also be great against it

[violet cipher]

I honestly haven't tried that much
I've only been asking this to see if building Venti was worth it.

[honest heart]

to break sheild just mav skill swap to chasca and do normal CA

when it falls, offload you dmg on it

[hazy lotus]

worth it is probably up for debate since i doubt he’ll be getting a ton of play after this session of shilling is past

[honest heart]

with his new buff yest hes very good now but for this specificaly depends if you want to use him,

[hazy lotus]

maybe if/when varka comes out lol

[honest heart]

i dont think they gonna shun venti after his buff so soon tho tbh

[violet cipher]

I'm just kinda min-maxing dps atm so I wanted to check if it was worth it. And also some minor supports.

[hazy lotus]

i just don’t think his dps even after buffs is anything to write home about and even more so if ur not heavily investing in it

[violet cipher]

I got a lot of things to min-max and don't really know what takes priority atm

[honest heart]

tbh other than a few exceptions all dps need good investment to do damage.

especialy to clear endgame stuff

[hazy lotus]

yeah but venti starts at a much lower baseline than modern dps and i doubt without shill he’ll be clearing stygian easily at an average to low investment level

[honest heart]

he wont but the one posted is clearing level 90 stygarian boss aka hard mode which should not be a big deal

[hazy lotus]

i think they were just on that screen to snap a pic of their roster

[honest heart]

maybe

[hazy lotus]

i’d assume they’re asking for a fearless clear which venti should still be capable of for current stygian but idk abt future usage

[honest heart]

that i do agree, his future is only possible with durin atm

[violet cipher]

Yeah I was considering menacing/fearless difficulty or whatever is before Dire.
I have Chasca's sig so maybe I could also do Dire but either way I wanted to know the easiest way to clear feerless at least.

I'm not too interested in Durin atm but I might get him on rerun

do these stats need work?

[slender totem]

yall is Durin worth pulling for?

[rugged sparrow]

he's a pretty high value pull ye

[honest heart]

he is amazing support for many teams and works with almost anyone, one of the most flexible charecters they have released and also has a good personal damage

[lean tree]

how much er does durin need if i don't level his skill i only have the resources for burst rn

[rugged sparrow]

a lot

gonna depends on whatever your skill lv is

[lean tree]

1 💀

[rugged sparrow]

wont be surprised if ur ER req shoots up to 200+

[tropic thistle]

How to kill beeg wilderness guy, or is it just another hidden hp sponge lol...?!?!?!?

Bro was more tanky than chamber 1 and 2 first half bosses lol...

[fast rock]

Help with cutting time on first 2 chambers

Mauvika, citlali, Bennett and sucrose
Varesa,Iansen, chevreuse and Xiangling

[late pebble]

In the hexeri venti team, would it be better to use c2 furina or c6 faruzan

[lyric cargo]

c1 Xianyun was mostly there because she breaks the weasel shields a bit faster

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

grouping would be good

[honest heart]

how in the world are we suppose to do this abyss without venti\

[rugged sparrow]

just use chars with plenty of aoe, idk

it's not too bad since mobs die easily

[lyric cargo]

having so many enemies die helps with energy a decent amount

the cryo shields in 12-1-1 can be a bit annoying, if you let enemies shield up

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

[rugged sparrow]

tbf Bobik on 3rd chamber heavily incentivizes pyro anyway so cryo shield shouldn't be an issue

if u struggle on cryo cicins you won't kill Bobik

[rugged sparrow]

is Mav really struggling

[honest heart]

i think i should go mono pyro mav on first with kazuh xilonen

[honest heart]

yes bro idk why

[rugged sparrow]

it's an option ig

[honest heart]

since enemies keep respawning getting cryo first is gonna be hard

to melt

and non melt damage of mav with em sands is not great here

maybe ttds lanyan

[lyric cargo]

I'd bring a Xianyun team second half, for weasels

well, any plunge
but Xy seems like your easiest way to make one?

[honest heart]

ohh ye

alr mono mav performend the best on 1st half

[rugged sparrow]

dont rly need plunge for weasels if you have enough dmg

I'd reckon Skirk can just bruteforce through the shield

[honest heart]

does the wesel insantly go into that plunge state?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[lyric cargo]

pretty quickly

[honest heart]

FRICK

[rugged sparrow]

the dmg check isn't too bad esp for a Skirk team

you'll probs burn through half rots to break shield

[lyric cargo]

idk if I was just forcing myself to break the shield, assuming it wouldn't work otherwise

[honest heart]

YESS i DID IT

SKIRK brute FORCEd

i didnt allw it to go into that miode

froze it forever

[lyric cargo]

I had various c2r1 Mav teams second half, but often only like 40s left after first half

the Neuv vape team gave me more time for second half, like 1m 30s

[lyric cargo]

right, freeze can delay it I see

[honest heart]

dammit im missing the veteran enhancer mech by a few seconds

[rugged sparrow]

@viral mulch tried solo Wrio bottom half but my top half Clorinde team isn't cutting it

the only improvement I can make is having c6 Chev
fuckass char won't c6 even after I pull her on 3 diff banners

[stiff latch]

Is ER a dead stat on skirk?

[valid anchor]

Skirk doesn't need ER. Keep it at zero.

[bright cape]

what the helly. first time I am struggling with floor 12.

this guy needs pyro right?

or does burning work better?

[rugged sparrow]

either or

do you even have Emilie

[opal surge]

So, to my somewhat mild surprise it turns out that 3 Cicin mages at the same time having their summons up is actually the worst possible matchup chasca can have

[bright cape]

nope. but will try lauma

[rugged sparrow]

dont even bother play burning without Emilie

[bright cape]

does hydro hurt that boss?

[thorn bay]

def bringing my chasca pyro team

citlali teach that squirel

[tropic thistle]

How to keel wilderness big guy fast ?!?!?!?

[lyric cargo]

Neuv Lauma burning vape was ok imo
just wait with hydro app until it goes down

[rugged sparrow]

no

[bright cape]

oh ok. then i will see.

[lyric cargo]

hurt as in damaging it? or hurt like with lava dragon statue where you really want to avoid bringing hydro?

[bright cape]

there was one boss who lost his pyro meter if we even apply a bit of hydro

[rugged sparrow]

I'm guessing the latter but if former then yes

yeah that's Lava Dragon Statue

[bright cape]

yah. 2nd one

[lyric cargo]

am I tripping, or did this use to have clear times on it?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's LDS

[bright cape]

u can kind of guess with the times if the clear was without reset

[lyric cargo]

oh, right. there's the time the clear was recorded

[rugged sparrow]

that's been there since forever but exact clear time is never there ye

[sick quarry]

chat

[bright cape]

might need to tune a lot for 1st chamber

[sick quarry]

when the wish leaves my wishing history

do i lose that for the pity

or does the game still count it but doesnt show me

[rugged sparrow]

the latter

in-game only records the last 1 year of your pull history

ppl usually record their history on 3rd party website because of this (needs manual update though)

[sick quarry]

i see

thanks

[rugged sparrow]

I did it, I maintained Wriorinde agenda @viral mulch

now waiting hyl to update

[bright cape]

finally did it.

em xiangling went hard

[thorn bay]

looks like kuki artifacts

[bright cape]

yes they are

for burgeons

needed a bit more tuning than i had expected

[thorn bay]

what isit like

[honest heart]

@rugged sparrow @lyric cargo ok mono pyro mav and skirk

[bright cape]

it's a bit rougher than i had expected. venti shilling

[bright cape]

skirk for the pyro boss too?

[thorn bay]

60 enemies like last time on 11-3

??

[honest heart]

no mono pyro mav 1st phase, skirk 2nd phase

teams are
mav, durin,kazuha,xilonen
skirk,furina,yelan,escoffe

[bright cape]

oh ok. i forgot that

[bright cape]

yah. a bit tougher 41 enemies

[thorn bay]

?

[honest heart]

i got away thanks to skrik shredding those 2 squirils in 40 seconds, could have done it faster but one when into its mode

[thorn bay]

will c0 chasca w citlali durin bennet will do

[bright cape]

they spawn in the group of 5 and 3

[rugged sparrow]

nice

[bright cape]

chasca might not work

[honest heart]

if she can do like 100k per fully charged hit then yes

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca dies in aoe

[honest heart]

but i doubt

[rugged sparrow]

if u cant one shot the cryo cicin it gets even worse

[honest heart]

she does?

[thorn bay]

yea i can do 100k one bullet every shot

[bright cape]

wait does chasca's damage also get distributed among the flies?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

and yes Sensi ranted above

[honest heart]

huh ok

[bright cape]

cicin mages have flies all over them

[rugged sparrow]

his Chasca is c2 too and he's struggling

[thorn bay]

oh its those

[rugged sparrow]

did you even get avg clear time (1:30) with ur Chasca on top half @opal surge

[bright cape]

yah. there's 3 of them

[thorn bay]

i cant even killl them in the overworld

i have to speedrun then before they spawn bats

[bright cape]

i used em xiangling and burgeon. it was pretty good

took around 96 seconds

[thorn bay]

burgeon gaming

[bright cape]

@rugged sparrow i am more and more attracted to the idea of c1 lauma for heals

furina, c1 lauma, ineffa. perfect core

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/913018237783003136/1222581471173279914/Kokomi_Sip.gif

[rugged sparrow]

what in the whel

[bright cape]

what a roll.

[fast rock]

Nvm, I did it with same teams

[thorn bay]

columbine

[bright cape]

i was thinking the same

or yelan?

[bright cape]

wow. that's a really nice aino build

[crude dirge]

why so much em though

[thorn bay]

??

[opal surge]

First chamber no was like 1:45

[rugged sparrow]

doomge

truly a chamber of all time

[opal surge]

TBF I witnessed my chasca doing 5CA into 3 cicin mages

Without any of the 3 losing HP

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow this is a pain

[foggy phoenix]

my alre and flins share the primodial jade spear

if i need to use both of them on both sides of the abyss

[opal surge]

Give arle pjws craft shovel for flins

[rugged sparrow]

painge

[foggy phoenix]

do i uppgrade the white tassel and for alre and give prim for flins or craft the craftable nod krai for flins and give alre prim

[opal surge]

I premoved Ur question

[foggy phoenix]

oh

ty

[rugged sparrow]

premove dn

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

it's been HOURS since I cleared abyss can hoyolab update faster

I need to maintain Wriorinde agenda

[opal surge]

Mines updated already

[rugged sparrow]