📌gimshim-help

[thorn bay]

Wait nvm

[lyric cargo]

it was the last chamber, and the last enemy was at its last sliver of hp

[bright cape]

u just need one hold skill

[thorn bay]

That guy almost ded

[thorn bay]

Doesn’t it move with the red hp when party is ascendant gleam

Another reason to combine our acc

Lauma nefer

[lyric cargo]

you directly damage the gray hp bar (maxhp)

hoyolab has not updated yet

I went with the most braindead Mavuika team option available
triple cryo and fastest pyro app combo

in theory, Bennett Escoffier Citlali would be enough for CFD

[bright cape]

what's cfd?

overloaded mavuika also worked pretty well

[thorn bay]

When you do the new combo ahh mav team

[lyric cargo]

one charge attack hit, then let go for a finisher
start a new charge attack and dash cancel the finisher

[bright cape]

i just made donuts

[lyric cargo]

the result is the dash cancelling the finisher animation and the next charge attack coming out immediately
cancelling the dash

[bright cape]

until i get citlali, i am not learning anything with mavuika

[lyric cargo]

you can do it with hydro, in theory
idk how that compares to overload

[bright cape]

only thing i have changed is ororon going before chevy for the ball

[thorn bay]

https://youtu.be/SHYHLkfZlME?si=snOQxXfvpuv4uKsg

[bright cape]

even that is thrown out the window after 1st rotation

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265100961228128266/1427788877833437316/March_7thReal.gif

[lyric cargo]

for a really easy and brain dead version, just do a charge attack.
then let go of left mouse button for a finisher and do left and right click at the same time

[thorn bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103879797886689319/1411751260763455488/RDT_20250831_123454504399030700553516.gif

[lyric cargo]

you're supposed to do left click, then right click
but it still somewhat works if you do both at once

for the finisher version

[bright cape]

does it result in more number of hits?

compared to just donuts

[lyric cargo]

the finisher version is maybe the same number of hits
but finisher deals more damage

if you want to see my poorly executed version vs a moving target @bright cape

I'm supposed to put Lan Yan on instructor and change the rotation so Mav gets an EM buff, though

[thorn bay]

What about this combo on that boss

Op?

[bright cape]

i think i can do this

but here it's easier coz the enemy has perma cryo aura right?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, you need multiple cryo chars to maintain the aura otherwise

Esco + Citlali would be enough according to this, iirc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK1Q4LBVpws

should be the second combo

[lyric cargo]

you got c1 Lan Yan?
or crescent pike?

Herra is kinda the perfect enemy for you to test on, if you don't have Citlali / Escoffier / etc

[thorn bay]

Crescent spike won’t give cryo

[lyric cargo]

you'd use Chongyun with it

[bright cape]

i have lanyan

[thorn bay]

Doesn’t the weapon extra hit do physical no matter what? Hmmm

Ig that works

[lyric cargo]

I think one clear I saw used
Mav, Bennett, Xiangling, Chongyun

Xiangling was on Crescent pike, and both Mav + Xl got to melt their damage after absorbtion

[lyric cargo]

yeah, the extra hit is physical. The absorbtion cares about which element did the highest damage to it during the gauge phase, though

so as long as your cryo hits had more damage than your physical hits, you can still have the extra hits from Crescent

[thorn bay]

Crescent have physical dmg bonus

[stiff latch]

stringless or skyward harp?

[lyric cargo]

harp

unless you have someone else who also wants harp, then it can be a consideration

[stiff latch]

I don't have any bow characters I use anymore

I used to use yoimiya but she had thundering pulse anyway

unless yelan prefers harp over favonius

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1U4fNbmaEtDUN1ld3pA7xsprLCRZAw90q

[lyric cargo]

which team are you using? or looking for a generalist build?

tl;dr: harp is better than r5 stringless in general
in aggravate, they can be comparable

[stiff latch]

I think you might of been there but I got help making 2 teams, she is on this one

[lyric cargo]

ah, right

I don't usually connect the situation to the name, but I remember now

hmm, here is the comparison for chev overload

[maiden kayak]

do arle needs em or atk sands? if im using her with citali, xq, venti

[lyric cargo]

I don't think any of the 3 scenarios they have a detailed comparison for applies to this
it's not unbuffed, since Oz will snapshot the Bennett buff

[bright cape]

wow. didn't know song of stillness was that high

i have her on amos. and it's lower

[lyric cargo]

hmm, above it is alley hunter which I don't tend to think of as a strong weapon
it looks more like stringless is low?

oh, amos

[bright cape]

i somehow got that one from standard instead

the day i get harp, i will try to get her some good builds

rn she has all leftovers from furina

[stiff latch]

I do have 4 alley hunters, do you think it needs r5 to be above harp?

[bright cape]

r5 is below the harp

[lyric cargo]

it's not above harp, check fats l again here

[stiff latch]

are lol, for some reason I thought hunters path was alley hunter

[bright cape]

alley hunter is a nice bow. i would build it

if i had more at least r3

[stiff latch]

bow users are extinct on my account though

[lyric cargo]

on mine, I think there's.. Fischl, Tighnari, Ororon

[stiff latch]

Just fischl, yelan. Only yelan is even built

and yoimiya I guess, haven't used her in months though

[unkempt willow]

does bennett's c6 override noelle's sweeping time and ayaka's kamisato art: senho ?

[crude dirge]

pretty sure doesnt override noelle's but overrides with ayaka infusion

[unkempt willow]

which one do yall recommend for marachausee noelle ?

[crude dirge]

why use bennet with ayaka anyway

[unkempt willow]

theyre just my main built dps's so i wanted to make sure

[crude dirge]

show fulls stats or an enka network card when asking for stuff with artifacts

[crude dirge]

c4 noelle😭

mine is c3

[unkempt willow]

SHE KEEPS ELLUDING ME AND I WHENEVER I TAKE BREAKS THATS WHEN SHE DECIDES TO BE ON BANNER

[crude dirge]

crit rate circlet

how do u have so little crit rate

oh those sands..

[unkempt willow]

:(

im trying i swear 🥀

[crude dirge]

u have c4r1 noelle and sands like that

[lyric cargo]

Ayaka prefers Escoffier teams, so afaik Bennett isn't really a viable option for her in comparison

running 4-star on-fielders is kinda rough, with stygian being the main endgame content

maybe when geo is in theater?

[serene sandal]

heres my roster, what second team can i run alongside neuvi furina kazu inefa

[strange scarab]

[serene sandal]

what 😭

[stiff latch]

zhongklee

[lyric cargo]

Mualani, Sucrose, Candace, [off-field pyro]

Mua seems to be your only other built on-fielder?

[serene sandal]

built is a strong word

[lyric cargo]

even though she's not lvl90

[serene sandal]

i woudl barely call any of my units built

[lyric cargo]

and an hp scaler

[lyric cargo]

let's say "most built"?

[serene sandal]

my neuvi team is my most built chars that luckily work together well enough

i rlly wanna get arle too but primos are low and icba to do the aq 😭

[lyric cargo]

hmm, you don't have a good Bennett team yet so in theory you could

it's definitely more of a "this could work if you really want it to" thing, though. there are better Bennett teams than Arle now

[serene sandal]

yeah, tbh the main deterrent from wanting a new char is that farming takes so long before even thinking of artis, that it feels not worth it

[lyric cargo]

for your existing carries, I think Xilonen for Mualani might be one of the better options

otherwise, pretty much all Mua teams are healerless I believe

[lyric cargo]

pulling constellations can make your teams stronger without that farming to level a new char or weapon

but it's still more recommendable to get a wide char pool first

both for stygian team options and for theater

[serene sandal]

tbh im nowhere near ready for endgame, my acc is 2 years old and yet i have managed to max a total of zero characters out

is there any team i could make for tighnari or freminet? theyre my fav chars and pribs the only ones i could be bothered to acc build an entire team for 😭

[serene sandal]

tbh cons have never been considered bc i am way too broke for the primos needed.

[lyric cargo]

it'd be the goal I'd be working towards, if it was my account
maybe not yours, though

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I'd recommend getting a wider char pool rather than cons

[lyric cargo]

it's rough, they're not really viable enough by my standards

4-star carries in general are hard to make work in the content I aim for

Tighnari is more viable than Freminet

he works with Fischl, but the kind of teammate he wants is hard to find

he likes short rotations and needs some field time, but there's some time left over

so chars that can fill that field time while also wanting short rotations themselves

like Yae, but she's not all that viable herself by today's standard

Nahida or Kazuha are also options

[serene sandal]

ah okay np, js wondered since i adore their design and character. icl i tried to build mualani before playing her, then played her and realised her playstyle is not my taste by far 😭 is there any other teams you would recommend? could national still work on my acc?

[stiff latch]

do you have homa? Not sure but maybe a hu tao vape team?

[serene sandal]

nah i only got 3 5* weapons, pjws, aquila, and freedomsworn

[lyric cargo]

I'd look towards newer chars and build around them

Huato Yelan Aino Ineffa is a thing
otherwise, any Hutao team will want Furina

I think that Hutao team in particular is recommendable, if you want to keep using Furina with Neuv

you'd just need to replace Ineffa on Neuv's team

[stiff latch]

fischl?

[lyric cargo]

it's an option

I was thinking someone who can give 40 dmg% with scroll, maybe

Lauma is also an option

but that team also uses Ineffa, so nevermind

[lyric cargo]

so Xilonen or pyro traveler or Ororon

[stiff latch]

iansan maybe? Or is she too onfield

[lyric cargo]

Iansan is an atk buffer, so not for Neuv

[stiff latch]

ah yeah forgot he is hp%

[lyric cargo]

something like
Iansan, Bennett, Chevreuse, Fischl
could be a third team

but requires those chars to be actually built

and Bennett would need to be built as dps I believe
so it's actually kinda niche

[bright cape]

@lyric cargo i got a new feather.

now only need a good goblet

[hazy lotus]

the flower

[bright cape]

the flower is good no?

i think it's high cr is what's allowing me to go cdmg circlet

[hazy lotus]

the cr is nice but it’s kinda weak as a whole for a flower imo

[bright cape]

i will try to change that too

sadly glad pieces farming is tough

[hazy lotus]

yeah and whimsy sucks too i’ve been strongboxing to no avail lmao

[bright cape]

try glad. it's not that bad

if u r long time player, u already might have cracked build ready in no time

[hazy lotus]

i have a whimsy build i’m just gambling for small improvements atp

hurting for em pretty bad

[lyric cargo]

3 chances every week
unless you strongbox it, but idk about that

I thought her sig set was decently ahead, but from what Sensi said not so much

[hazy lotus]

it’s a little more if you have c2+ but below that if u already have a good glad build i dont think its that recommendable to farm whimsy yeah

on average it’s well below a 10% increase

[rugged sparrow]

meanwhile Xiao mains having to switch sets every new major patch

for 5% increase or smth

[lyric cargo]

10% would be a lot, tbh

[hazy lotus]

no i meant it’s significantly below

like 5-8% at best probably

[rugged sparrow]

that's still quite a decent amount to reconsider farming no

but ig you can argue that Mav > Arle nowadays in majority of their team archetypes so

[hazy lotus]

yeah but the higher end is assuming like identical stats so if ur glad is cracked good luck

[bright cape]

yoo. i did not have strongbox in mind

[rugged sparrow]

wdym u cant get 300cv whimsy with 40 useful subs

[bright cape]

that's really nice

[viral mulch]

whimsy domain kinda valid for me cus burning set has actual use for me

but i be doing the new shit

[rugged sparrow]

I'm still trying to get a circlet on Whimsy for my Clor

[bright cape]

use elixir

[viral mulch]

if i do farm whimsy itd be moreso for clorinde than arle as well

[rugged sparrow]

already crafted her circlet like 2x

none satisfy me

it's also like Clor can have 4 useful subs (or 3)

and I'm kinda greedy

[viral mulch]

maybe if my nefer gear rerolls good next patch ill farm whimsy domain from then

[bright cape]

how many in ur friend list have cleared dire stygian?

[viral mulch]

i got flamed by a malder last time cus i dont have burning set for malding 💔

[bright cape]

i have one and i don't remember when i added

[viral mulch]

i have like 6 or smth

[hazy lotus]

i don’t do dire because i have performance anxiety

[bright cape]

i think u totally can.

[viral mulch]

do u do stygian in front of an audience

[hazy lotus]

yes and my wife laughs at me when i have to reset

they tell me skill issue and step on me

[viral mulch]

damn

[rugged sparrow]

that's oddly specific

the last part

[bright cape]

that's a win-win

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1403911720535195769.webp?size=48&animated=true

[rugged sparrow]

wdym u dont wanna get stepped on by your wife

[hazy lotus]

not in front of the homies…

[viral mulch]

ive been doing stygian decently well so far

prob gonna need like pps or esco fork refines if i wanna push further

[bright cape]

as f2p, i am happy i have been able to clear fearless

it is very anxious however

[vocal sierra]

what is happening...?

[viral mulch]

the world is ending

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

Meltyu getting a grand total of zero new sets (reverie is a fraud)

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

new set but its actually not and its also not meltyu and its just esco

[quaint fern]

ATP I think melt ganyu is a lost cause

They can't buff ganyu without buffing mavuika

[foggy phoenix]

can someone give me 2 teams for this abyss (floor 12 not 10 obv)

[foggy phoenix]

whoops

[quaint fern]

I would probably arle OL/melt 2nd half then you can hyperbloom 1st half or brute force with flins if yours is strong enough

This abyss 12 was actually pretty easy

[rugged sparrow]

what treez said ye

Arle basically free for 2nd half due to shill too

[quaint fern]

^

[viral mulch]

thats f10

[quaint fern]

Oh I actually didn't look at the blessings

[viral mulch]

but even then yea team recs fine

[rugged sparrow]

it's like 200% bloom + LB dmg 1st half

and 75% pyro NA dmg 2nd half

[quaint fern]

Oh fr? I should have just used my niloom instead of Skirk then

[bright cape]

i dunno whether to farm navia's domain or tenacity

[quaint fern]

I just remembered the boss lineup being very good for arle

[viral mulch]

neither cus song of whatever sucks and pale flame also sucks

[bright cape]

with tenacity, i might end up getting eula build too

[rugged sparrow]

why pale flame

[bright cape]

i lost to eula 😭

[quaint fern]

Put the MH in the bag

[viral mulch]

just farm gtmh 🥀

[rugged sparrow]

unluck

[quaint fern]

The last time I used Eula I had her on MH

[rugged sparrow]

also @viral mulch ts pmo why they gotta give us this notif every new week even after we finished it

[bright cape]

i got tired of that domain and started using my dust and elixirs

[viral mulch]

idk

i also just leyline farm nowadays

[bright cape]

that's actually not bad idea. i think i should do the same

[foggy phoenix]

maybe not

[quaint fern]

I still haven't finished my 800 leyline ach

[rugged sparrow]

same

[bright cape]

ER might be the issue

[viral mulch]

im just gonna save some mats til next stygian drop

[bright cape]

farming artifacts during stygian window is nice.

[viral mulch]

and also cope that surely next patch my nefer gob will reroll like a god

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

i used to feed the 3-liners for sanctifying elixir.
i dunno what to feed these days.

[viral mulch]

just fodders ig

[quaint fern]

I was main doing SMS during last SO

[rugged sparrow]

I just feed arti exp cuz I cba to scan my arti again

[quaint fern]

Now idk what to farm

[bright cape]

i heard it was not that efficient

if it's around 90%, i can do the same

[viral mulch]

i need a lot of different sets but ill see which one i go for in the end

i should also fix my varesa build but im fine with my skirk build so idk

but first weekly boss time

[quaint fern]

Surely sandrone is a geo subdps

I got a good reroll target on SMS geo goblet

[bright cape]

i am hoping.
make navia great again

[quaint fern]

Ive been considering chiori

[bright cape]

what team?

[viral mulch]

who r u to tell me

[nova swift]

what if she dies

[viral mulch]

respawn her

[rugged sparrow]

bend over instead

[viral mulch]

[serene sandal]

does anyone know a good place for coop help i cant find someone to help me farm boss mats

[rugged sparrow]

just Genshin Impact Offi

[serene sandal]

cant, dont have verified number

[rugged sparrow]

[serene sandal]

for some reason disc dont wanna let me verify the number 😭

[bright cape]

i can help

what boss?

[serene sandal]

suanni, im NA tho

[bright cape]

i am na too

uid?

[serene sandal]

ok great

[rugged sparrow]

Suanni my beloved

[serene sandal]

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[nova swift]

okay

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

i realized i have very bad teams for suanni

if I want to do it with 2 chars only

once again not having citlali moment

[lyric cargo]

to be fair, if it was the right call twice and just bad luck you might craft a third
but how many useful subs does she have on circlet? just 2, making crafting optimal?

[rugged sparrow]

3-4

atk cr em er

[lyric cargo]

oh, is it aggravate?

I was thinking overload
but also wasn't aware ER is useful

[rugged sparrow]

can argue EM isn't too useful on her but I don't play overload only

ER is always useful for her if u wanna burst every rot though she doesn't need a lot if u run Fischl

[lyric cargo]

oh, I should've read on 😅

[bright cape]

i am surprised how much the teams buff him up

[tulip plaza]

how do I defeat the blazing brilliance fire boss in abyss? I read somewhere that attacking him with fire would do something, but as per my experiences they just get crazier when hit with the same type of attacks

[rugged sparrow]

is this like floor 10 or smth

[tulip plaza]

floor 9

I blazed thru the rest of them in like 5 seconds

this boss had a lot of elemental resistance

I was trying ganyu on him did like 3k-5k normally does 20-30k

[rugged sparrow]

10% standard res by default

for his Gloomveiled state, it just says you hit him with pyro

so the bar fills quickly

so just Bennett E spam

[tulip plaza]

if the bar fills quickly the res goes away or smth? sry I don't understand this

[rugged sparrow]

no idea I've never fought it

[lyric cargo]

Abyss Version: Enters Enhanced State immediately. The number of DMG hits required to exit is increased. Corresponding RES becomes 170% and other RES 130%.

doesn't state what the number of hits required is now, though

[rugged sparrow]

it's here

[tulip plaza]

Ill take xl with ganyu then ig, she can apply pyro quick

[lyric cargo]

Ben Xl and on-field Bennett?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean Bennett fills 40 bar per E and Q

[lyric cargo]

I wonder if c1 Lan Yan would work. But her many hits probably don't apply the element

so likely not good

[rugged sparrow]

so u can just EQEE
c6 Bennett u just NA spam

[rugged sparrow]

it does with an ICD I believe

[lyric cargo]

do you have Bennett? If not, screenshot your char pool?

[tulip plaza]

I have benny but have him in the other team with arle, but the pyro advice was good and it worked, Thankyou

[viral mulch]

cant wait for this to be in abyss and make the cycle unsoloable

[rugged sparrow]

inb4 just phys Mav

until it Gloomveils then one shot it

just 170% res surely bruteforceable

[viral mulch]

abyss version starts with it

[rugged sparrow]

ok so just one shot it

[viral mulch]

solo oneshot

[small oyster]

Sup fellas
Need help with Stygan US server Over and Out

[small oyster]

We?

[fiery wigeon]

How do beat frostnight herra with a bloom team?

I tried using lauma bloom as the bonus is there but I am tickling the boss

See this right here is why we need to be able to select a different team for each floor, I wanna try a different team but then I won't 3 star 12-1

[hazy lotus]

if u 3 starred one chamber already u can do the others with other teams

[hazy lotus]

have u tried hyperbloom regular bloom as an archetype is pretty weak without nilou

[fiery wigeon]

There in lies the issue of not being able to bloom on 12-1 so k get insta killed

[viral mulch]

skillissue

[fiery wigeon]

I have nilou, lauma, kokomi and nahida

[fiery wigeon]

Real helpful

[hazy lotus]

don’t u just infuse horse with hydro and go to bloom town on it then

[fiery wigeon]

Right so when he goes on his like circle is that when I just use dendro only?

Like lowkey this right here is why I dont like abyss dude just random mechanics remove all your damage

I likes the previous one because I wasnt restricted byt what the boss does

[bright cape]

what's the team?

i tried giving herra hydro aura

[fiery wigeon]

Lauma,nahida, kokomi, nolou

[bright cape]

xingqiu can fill up pretty quickly

with that team, i dunno

[fiery wigeon]

Do i run hyper bloom

Instead

[bright cape]

i run this

the ascendant gleam is very helpful for chamber 3

[fiery wigeon]

I havnt got to chamber 3 yet because I'm tryna figure out thos boss

Second half is covered as its just mavuika slam

Alright bet imma try hyper bloom

[royal storm]

weapon recommendations for varesa?

[bright cape]

try to add lauma and aino

it will be easier going all the way

[fiery wigeon]

Hm I dont have another built

[bright cape]

aino?

[fiery wigeon]

Aino*

[bright cape]

u don't need to build her

she just exists there

[fiery wigeon]

Oh

[bright cape]

to increase moonsign level

otherwise chamber 3 will be impossible

[fiery wigeon]

So do I just go lauma, aino,nahida koko or replace someone with kuki ?

[bright cape]

i just saw ur message in gimshim-chat

2nd boss gets the aura of the element it receives the most damage from

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah i have never fought this boss because we were never forced to until abyss dropped it

[bright cape]

since u were doing lots of dendro damage, it got dendro immune aura

[fiery wigeon]

Right , I cpuld just run a different team but I have a feeling because all of my teams are reaction teams it probably won't make a difference

[bright cape]

while filling the bar in the beginning. don't do dendro damage

that's all

[fiery wigeon]

Alright I'll run ut

It*

[viral mulch]

the scheming stygian herra

[fiery wigeon]

Okay still cant clear it , I'll have to come back to it when ainos built

With kuki its just too slow

[young sphinx]

guys i'm actually stupid whT do i do with that green thing in the sky i quit during sumeru

[royal storm]

for kuki, which artifact is great? Night of the Sky's Unveiling or Flower of Paradise Lost?

[bright cape]

what team?

[royal storm]

flins

[bright cape]

for that team, u can go tenacity

[royal storm]

thanks

[royal storm]

stat prio? elemental mastery or hp?

[bright cape]

main can be HP HP HP/healing bonus

for substats, u can focus on ER, EM, HP

[royal storm]

thanks

[bright cape]

basically u r going for support build.

if u r using fav, CRIT is also useful

here's mine.

[violet cipher]

Nefer/lauma
Nilou with Sig or c1 Aino for the 3rd slot?

[royal storm]

can u give me this doc

[neon wave]

It's linked in pins

[quaint fern]

not even 400k

[neon harness]

tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds

[quaint fern]

it's funny that fruitful hook r5 is better than my verdict

it's like 11-12% better, roughly

[neon harness]

man i dont even remember where that weapon is from

[quaint fern]

gacha 🤣

[neon harness]

weapon banner exclusive..shouldve known

[hazy lotus]

i mean ye it’s like his best or second best weapon isn’t it

verdict is just high base atk and crit statstick

[tepid finch]

guys im confused on chamber 2 why is the frostnight herra immune to all my dmg? im using lauma, nahida, nilou and kokomi

[violet cipher]

can someone answer this please? at least if Nilou r1 < or > c1 Aino for Nefer?

[elder bluff]

it is immune to element that deals the most damage when breaking its shield unless it is lunar or physical

[tepid finch]

so should i just use lauma to break the shield

[elder bluff]

so you should break the shield with lunar being the highest damage

[rugged sparrow]

Lauma only deals like 1 instance of Lunar Bloom dmg per rotation unless c6 so

[elder bluff]

if dendro is the most damage it will be immune to dendro

[rugged sparrow]

I think it's same difference if Aino is not c6

[tepid finch]

so how the hell r u meant to beat the boss

its so confusing

[rugged sparrow]

use other teams or infuse hydro?

[violet cipher]

Ok, ty

[rugged sparrow]

use Nilou Kokomi and infuse hydro
then just Lauma Nahida to clean up

[tepid finch]

what does infuse hydro mean?

[rugged sparrow]

this

Herra infuses itself with the element it takes the most dmg

except Lunar/Physical

[tepid finch]

so if i destory shield with hydro can it just die from bloom cores

[rugged sparrow]

yes

because it won't be dendro infused

[tepid finch]

k cool thx

these new bosses r so confusing

[lyric cargo]

me, looking at my r2 hook that I pulled specifically for Ga Ming (risking Varesa/Xy sig) ^^

(I had to bail when my pity got too high to afford cashing in the fate point if I lost to a standard weapon)

[thorn bay]

Is Sturdy bone good

It increases dmg when it sprint

[lyric cargo]

you can search for it on the GenshinBuilds sheet
I assume no

I thought it might be a co-op elite run weapon at first, but skyrider sword is apparently better 😅

people run that on c2 jean

[small oyster]

Isn't anyone going to help withthe liyue domain?🥲

[half anchor]

why r ppl calling this abyss hard im confused

i have no lunar teams and still 36 starred

[rugged sparrow]

where did ppl even call it diff

as far as I can see, ppl are saying this one's easier than the last

[crude dirge]

is this worth keeping

[opal surge]

Yeah

[crude dirge]

finally reached decent-ish er on bennett

wait what

oh em circlet

[crude dirge]

@lyric cargo is this good for now

[half anchor]

idk iwtl vid said it

ig hes not very reliable

[rugged sparrow]

iwtl is full of horseshit

[half anchor]

💀

[rugged sparrow]

[half anchor]

surely hp% or healing% for bennett

unless u just dont have any other noblesse

[rugged sparrow]

it's nice to have HB% / HP on Bennett but ER on him is most important

[half anchor]

ye but for circlet main stat cus he has em

[rugged sparrow]

yeh that's kinda the point

ER has higher prio than the main stat for Bennett most of the time

[half anchor]

true

[crude dirge]

nah i gave up those stats for er sub

[half anchor]

makes sense

my bennett somehow has 300 ER without an ER weapon

[lyric cargo]

it's not showing his total ER

[crude dirge]

i think its 250 without er weapon

[lyric cargo]

I'd just give him whatever has the highest ER substat

[rugged sparrow]

[half anchor]

wait sry i do have sapwood im a bit stupid
still 273 tho

[rugged sparrow]

300 without ER weap would mean u have 30%+ ER sub on avg on 4 pieces

[half anchor]

lmao

avg is more like 20

[lyric cargo]

any on-set 30ER pieces?

[half anchor]

highest i have is 25.3% on my circlet

[lyric cargo]

I bet it's doable if you strongbox noblesse for your whole career

[rugged sparrow]

yeah but it's just insane

[lyric cargo]

Indeed

just make sure to never take him off Mavuika's team, so he can eat those 5 pyro particles

(he kinda needs them in stygian)

[crude dirge]

arle melt

he gets like 70% of his burst instantly or more

[lyric cargo]

how many particles does Arle give?

[crude dirge]

where does it say

kqm?

[rugged sparrow]

just genshin wiki

[crude dirge]

5 particles too

[lyric cargo]

it's probably out there somewhere, I expected you'd know if you play her regularly

maybe they're not on skill cast, though

[crude dirge]

it says on skill cast u get 5 particles

[half anchor]

Err

[lyric cargo]

they seem to like giving normal attackers particles on NA

[lyric cargo]

that's fine, then

[crude dirge]

i just do arle E + alt2 to instantly burst with bennett

[lyric cargo]

don't you want to burst later with Ben, for more uptime?

obviously Citlali comes last in the support rotation

[crude dirge]

i looked up some rotation guides and they do it first

[lyric cargo]

Arle, Ben, Cit, who?
Xilo?

[crude dirge]

kazuha

[lyric cargo]

normally you'd Xilo E N2 before Bennett burst

[lyric cargo]

oh. that's kinda awkward, VV also has short uptime

[crude dirge]

https://youtu.be/mJm6KJUyhp8?si=tlcxDGBf6hR0nMqb
https://youtube.com/shorts/4JDPIUgUcBg?si=PTdgysOVt4TfJIOV

[lyric cargo]

Xilo is probably better there

[crude dirge]

those teams are decent for abyss right
my xingqiu is built mid

[crude dirge]

sure

[lyric cargo]

if all 3 supports have short uptime, there's kinda no winning. someone will have short remaining uptime by the time you get back to Arle

[rugged sparrow]

better than nothing ig

Arle is somewhat frontloaded due to the nature of her BoL too, anyway

[opal surge]

If played well enough you can arle > bennett

Arle rotations are short and Bennett burst has linger

There's no real reason to do it in melt unless you're quite confident but you should always do it in overload

[lyric cargo]

ah, you want to carry over Bond of Life to the next rotation I see

so the rotation is preferably short

what combo do you do on Arle?

[rugged sparrow]

it's like 5n3d or 3n5d I believe

[opal surge]

Yeah

You can do 6n3d but your bol is so low that U don't do damage anyways

[rugged sparrow]

n3d provides more i-frame in case ure not running shielder

[opal surge]

So you just start next rotatio. Instead

[rugged sparrow]

3n5d for psychopaths who are too lazy

[lyric cargo]

should work
Furina isn't really pulling her weight in a team that doesn't scale off dmg%, so I'd use Xingqiu

if you have Lauma, you'd use her over Nahida

[opal surge]

Also doesn't help that in melt you have to wait for cryo aura on the 6th n3d

If played correctly

[rugged sparrow]

ah yes the (wait)

just run 2 cryo cores

Citlali Xilonen who

[forest venture]

felt bad to play arle melt without citlali so i ran esco ayaka

[rugged sparrow]

how so

oh wait

Arle melt without lali
just play other Arle team atp

overload is right there

[forest venture]

im bored with genshin endgame so i get a bit of goofy by just playing citlali-free arle melt and bring ayaka on 4pc emblem fav

[half anchor]

btw for arle is the optimal combo to just spam N3

[rugged sparrow]

n5 has higher ceiling if I'm not mistaken?

n3 is just for more iframes

[half anchor]

oh i see

[rugged sparrow]

cuz u dash cancel every time

though iirc the diff is minimal anyway so

as long as you're sticking with either string

[crude dirge]

nah bro my team cant even kill herra in 4 minutes

[opal surge]

nah its the other way around

n5d is easier to not mess up cryo aura

(its impossible to mess it up)

[rugged sparrow]

zamn

so n5d is for goobers

[opal surge]

the true combo is to play N2C with 0 stamina

to reach gcsim dps

[rugged sparrow]

"we have Hu Tao at home"

gotta get that frame perfect 120 fps 11n2c c1 Tao

[pastel zealot]

is white tassel good enuf for arle or sld i try to get sig

[rugged sparrow]

depends on where you set the bar

it's good enough to clear abyss/IT sure with good build and team

[pastel zealot]

hmm given that im f2p ig im good to go w four star or 3 star options?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean unless you have Deathmatch (BP option), pretty sure other 4-star options are just worse than White Tassel

or if u play vape/melt with Ballad of Fjords

[pastel zealot]

even if my wt is r1?

[rugged sparrow]

how's your White Tassel only r1...

[pastel zealot]

i js started farming for wts

like hours ago

[rugged sparrow]

well r5 it then

[little wolf]

Do i have hope of catching up and getting strong f2p at this point or not? played since flins not much during nefer or should i just stick to wuwa

[valid anchor]

technically no game is very F2P friendly, y'know.

however, new players has more options to pull something instead of olders. More resources to get.

But, the tradeback is, lack of access of some limited weapons which are needed (ex. Aino BIS is a limited 4-star weapon)

[little wolf]

Yeah but some are easier to play f2p friendly

Like i know i have a massive skill issue when it comes to games

[valid anchor]

in terms of what the game gives for F2P players, then, yes, Genshin gives a lot of resources. Even Eden Miliastra Composer (the sandbox composer) is free.

Genshin has the advantage of being a mature game.

and upcoming patches (or major versions; which are once per year), gives a lot of stuff.

technically they're giving a lot of stuff since Genshin went to Xbox (and got rid of the ||Sony|| slave collar)

[little wolf]

But very reliant on teams or weapons from what it sounds like teammates which i cant get and will have to wait who knows how long for

[royal storm]

I have mavuika, should i pull for arle?

[valid anchor]

up to you. different build composition. Mavuika is more friendly in some terms. Arlecchino is a beast in other teams (they rarely share members)

[valid anchor]

hmm... Genshin doesn't have a fixed cycle of limited character/weapon re-release. Everything is set to the current Archon and main quests.

usually archons gets a re-release once per yearly cycle, there's also the regional banner, and else.

[valid anchor]

Arlecchino... if I can remember well, she uses Bond of Life mechanic plus she can't be healed except by herself (something shared with Chlorinde).

[little wolf]

Yeah but thats what i mean haha i got arle but got no good team and it probably isnt the game's fault its mine im guessing cus like i said major skill issue

[valid anchor]

not exactly. Try to get all the primogem you can before going pull.

[rugged sparrow]

not much reason to pull Arle but if you like her go ahead

[royal storm]

I like her but i want to future proof my account

[dapper heron]

should i crown her? hehe, also what about her normal attack and burst, what level do i get it to?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean with vertical invest you can pretty much future proof
but yeah objectively speaking, Mav outclasses most, if not all Arle teams

[rugged sparrow]

up to you

[royal storm]

What is vertical invest?

[rugged sparrow]

constellations

[little wolf]

Sry what do you mean im a bit slow 😅 she isnt running with good teammates right

[dapper heron]

skill is the focus right? am still confused about leveling other attacks.

[viral mulch]

a man drank a lava lamp

[royal storm]

Ill have to pass to that xD. Im a casual player only

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[valid anchor]

if going casual, just relax and save primogems

[rugged sparrow]

NA completely unused
Burst optional

[rugged sparrow]

yum

[strange scarab]

deez natz

[viral mulch]

another man drank a snow globe

[royal storm]

Okay. I have flins with his sig and planning yo get a support for him on the unreleased characters

[dapper heron]

ooh so na is not needed huh, noted, burst maybe lvl 5-6 ?

[valid anchor]

open chests, clear all events and primogem sources as you can, including end-game mechanics (Abyss, Theatre, Stygian)

[rugged sparrow]

again, up to you

some people go for 6, some 8, some crown it

[dapper heron]

is burst even that good?

[rugged sparrow]

not really but it's still guaranteed dmg boost

[little wolf]

Yeah but i mean like teams are gonna be a problem for me right? I cant even clear my ascension quest let alone abyss/stygian haha (heard they are very difficult)

[rugged sparrow]

if you wanna allocate your resources elsewhere then by all means

[valid anchor]

explore elsewhere, try to level up your available characters as much as you can.

[dapper heron]

hehhehe ill use the resin to build furina now 😅 , after weopon of chasca, she uses that natlan craftabale bow

[valid anchor]

ascension quest is quite nice niche, a way to test your patience.

[little wolf]

Yeah idk maybe im just not cut out for gi 😂

[dapper heron]

oh no no dont quit, take your time

[little wolf]

With the time i spent and how bad i am in the game i dont know if that will help me anymore haha

[dapper heron]

what ar rank u at?

[little wolf]

45 😅

So yeah i just have a skill issue lol

[valid anchor]

not exactly. I remember it took me a lot of tries to clear that ascension quest.

so, Genshin adapts at your playstyle, just need to improve a bit.

[dapper heron]

same here

[valid anchor]

the final ascension quest, it also took me a couple tries.

[little wolf]

Yeah idk with how much i played i feel i should really be better just like in general in the game

[valid anchor]

Genshin is a game of patience. Most people plays for years. I'm a good example of that (Americas started in 1.4. Asia started in 1.3, but has less days played)

[little wolf]

Ive played since flins 😂

Not much during nefer though

[valid anchor]

just a patch ago. Why the rush?

you have a lot of things to do on genshin

[dapper heron]

ive been playing since 2021, idk the patch, am still learnign the game lol, maybe ur rushing too much, if the ascension is hard improve your characters a bit more, then try again

[little wolf]

I get annoyed at playing for hours to just get nowhere and yeah ik again my problem but im so impatient when it comes to the story

So i just run around fighting but get nowhere haha

[dapper heron]

wdym u get nowhere

[little wolf]

I dont get better at all is all 🤷‍♂️

The game is fun im probs just doing something to screw it up

[lyric cargo]

it's mostly just having the chars and them being decently invested
question is how to stay motivated while getting there
a domain run that takes 30 seconds with invested chars can take several minutes without

and getting the chars requires wishes, which requires playing

also requires waiting for banners

[neon wave]

Mid game can be a bit rough since enemies get tankier and you have virtually 0 equipment
Progress is time gated by resin but you very much do get better with time

It just takes a while

[dapper heron]

Genshin’s kinda like that tbh — it feels slow until your characters start getting stronger. It’s not that you’re doing anything wrong, it just takes time. Maybe try focusing on building 1–2 characters first instead of everything? It makes the game feel smoother ngl.

You’re not screwing anything up lol, early game/mid game just feels slow. Try focusing on 1–2 chars first, it’ll feel way better.

imo rushing wont get u anywhere

other than burnot and loosing that motivation to play

[little wolf]

I just dont want to waste time building a team that needs to be replaced is all 😅 like arle and flins i get building but the rest of my chars arent the best teams and need to be replaced if i want to be kinda strong which will take forever i dont want to repeat that i hate always feeling weak in the game lol

Maybe i should stick to wuwa haha

[half anchor]

for ar 58 i swr there wasnt a boss or anything

[dapper heron]

Totally understandable , but nothing you build now is ‘wasted’😅 . The game rewards slowly building up a few chars first, it’ll actually make the rest of your account easier to progress.

[lyric cargo]

I think one decent option is to get help farming artifacts
if it is taking long
but do so when stygian is within the first 10 days
then you can spend a ton of fragile resin

[dapper heron]

wait there ascention quest after ar 58

[neon wave]

Honestly the resources you spend now aren't gonna grief your progression or anything
You can also get Bennett from the shop if you have the starglitter, he's a solid teammate for Arle (and also a lot of others)
But if you're not having fun, that's up to you

[half anchor]

yes, for world level 9

[dapper heron]

daym, am at 56 only thats gonna a long while 😂

[half anchor]

what chars do u have

[dapper heron]

bennet should be 5 star ngl 😂

[lyric cargo]

55 is the soft cap, yeah
after that every level takes a lot longer

[little wolf]

Bennet is very important i heard but cant afford him haha

[dapper heron]

yeye i know

[half anchor]

petition to make Bennett circle follow you

[lyric cargo]

from 55 to 57, you should join a wl9 world when farming bosses for char ascension
get wl9 drops

[little wolf]

Give me a sec to send (the level arent accurate anymore though)

[dapper heron]

am world 8 now, how can i join lv 9 worlds

[neon wave]

You can

[half anchor]

u can

[neon wave]

There's no limitation between 8 and 9

[dapper heron]

but whenevetr i try it says unable to join

maybe ill try later lol

[half anchor]

does it let u request?

[thorn bay]

I think you just so unlucky

[dapper heron]

[valid anchor]

You can.

[dapper heron]

ill try later hehe

[little wolf]

like i said levels arent fully accurate anymore

[dapper heron]

thanks for the tip btw

[dapper heron]

xinque and xiangling are really good supports, aino is good for flins

[lyric cargo]

I'd mostly join players you actually know
join requests usually interrupt what I'm doing right now, so I'll ignore them in most cases

[half anchor]

for arle use xingqiu and u can also put vv on jean just for some extra damage
u can also use xiangling instead cus xingqiu cds are cancer

[dapper heron]

i dont really have much friends who still play genshin... the one who stil playes wiith me is lv 55, other guy is like 59, i tried joining him and it said unable to join, maybe it was some other thing like he was in a quest or something.

[dapper heron]

i used to be beidu main tilll i was ar lvl 48-50 , i had no 5 starts . my 1st 5 star was yoimiya

[little wolf]

i have no idea what vv is haha

[thorn bay]

Lynette better than Jean?

[little wolf]

dang

[thorn bay]

Viridescent

[dapper heron]

The Viridescent Venerer set

[half anchor]

viridescent venerer

[thorn bay]

It’s a artifact set

[dapper heron]

its an artifact set

[thorn bay]

I can’t believe I actually typed it right

[half anchor]

y

[thorn bay]

And I messed up a/an

[dapper heron]

i copied from google 😂

[thorn bay]

Lynette buffs atk with ult

[lyric cargo]

it's mostly online contacts for me
and yeah, quests are a possibility

I usually dm before requesting, either on discord or ingame

[dapper heron]

maomao effect? ive seen u use that term before 😅

[little wolf]

oh okay

[crude dirge]

what

[half anchor]

ic

[lyric cargo]

this is why everyone says VV and is unable to communicate what they mean to new players

[thorn bay]

It is miniature but still better than nothing

[little wolf]

i started playing after seeing edits about the lore and fight scenes haha

[lyric cargo]

(someone's going to pull 4 copies of Zhongli's sig instead, as that's also called VV)

[dapper heron]

wuwa is fast paced?

[thorn bay]

4pc vv??

[little wolf]

yeah and it was easier to catch up/get strong but i like both games started playing them one day apart haha focused on gi first,stopped,caught up with wuwa and now trying gi again

[dapper heron]

well imo genshin is nothing like that

maybe after ar 55?

[half anchor]

nothing like what

[lyric cargo]

getting to the point of fully clearing theater is going to take forever for someone starting now
28 char requirement

and stygian, three fully built teams

[dapper heron]

like i said imo . idk i played with quiet a lot of breaks in the middle so it felt kinda smooth for me

[half anchor]

i acc hate theater, ar 58 and i havent been able to even attempt the hard difficulty once cus of lack of characters

[little wolf]

Although wuwa i just got lucky compared to genshin i got a 5 star on first ten pulls and then the next path (apparently) her best support came out and i got him in like 50 pulls or so
But it is still relatively new so there isnt nearly as much content as gi

[dapper heron]

but i can never reach floor 12 of abyss or ever dream of clearin stagyian

[lyric cargo]

a lot depends on what your first banner is, I think
sometimes they give good 4-stars with a good 5-star and sometimes they don't

[half anchor]

nah i was genuinely asking what u were talking abt

[dapper heron]

oohh, i was saying how its not fast paced. englosh kinda bad sometimes

[thorn bay]

You can

[half anchor]

oh well it def gets slower here 🥀

[thorn bay]

Later

This abyss is easy

I think you can reach 12

[dapper heron]

i eman for the 1st time in my life i got 8 stars in floor 11 yesterday, loosing 1 star by like 2-3 seconds 😭 ,

[half anchor]

i feel so cool clearing the bloom requiring crab boss with skirk

[dapper heron]

floor 12 i tried but i could never beat the 2nd crab, i dont jave dendro units

[thorn bay]

Ye you can do it

[dapper heron]

well affer that no mater what i tried am getting like 3-5 stars

[thorn bay]

This is abyss is my best run yet

[half anchor]

just wait for it to fall down and pop its mini things

and hope u have enough dps to burst it down before it gets back up

[lyric cargo]

I'd say the main thing is actually having some kind of bloom team for the crab, and knowing Herra

[dapper heron]

my abbys team is (yoimiya yelan diona beidu) (chasca furina layla benny)

[thorn bay]

I think if I get gud ping and get higher er for Bennett I can do it

[half anchor]

or build ur first half team more 😭

[thorn bay]

Nah benny is just not ulting

I lose so much time on that

[half anchor]

whats ur er

[thorn bay]

280

[half anchor]

bruh

[thorn bay]

Chasca moment

[half anchor]

just E twice per rotation surely thats enough

[thorn bay]

Ye I’m literally doing that

That takes so much time

[half anchor]

what if u put fav on traveler or smth

[thorn bay]

He is

[half anchor]

does it get u ult or do u need more

[thorn bay]

I’m getting ult with 2 skills

[half anchor]

thats good then no?

[thorn bay]

At the end of rot my Benny got like 30-40 energy

[thorn bay]

It wastes so much time

[half anchor]

are u weaving ur Es in between ur orher supports

[dapper heron]

even though i started in 2021, i coudnlt play for like 1.8 years cause my acc was hacked and it took a lot of effort to get it back, i got it back in last maulani or chasca banner ig, so my units are weak af

[thorn bay]

I probably just should not chasca burst

[thorn bay]

Bennett e na na na na na e na na q
Citlali e (e) //sac
pmc e
Chasca e ca (q)

[half anchor]

bro just e with bennett do ur other supports then e again at the end

[thorn bay]

Pmc e ends so fast

[dapper heron]

🥴

[half anchor]

u can use the handbook trick to connect bennet particles quicker

[thorn bay]

I’ll try

[thorn bay]

Wait sensi taught me a combo

I think it’s 5ca or 4ca q

[dapper heron]

wait wow u can see days active in hoyolab? i havent played even for a year?

[thorn bay]

I’m not sure if it’s gonna work I’ll keep that in mind

[dapper heron]

are these even good team comps?

[half anchor]

yoimiya is a bit ehh

[dapper heron]

heheh i dont have better build chars lol

other than those 8, most my builds are shit

@neon wave eyo is that u?

[neon wave]

Nope, it's not
I'm on EU

[dapper heron]

ngl this new event is fun

[half anchor]

everyone i match with is utterly garbage at it

[dapper heron]

which server u in?

[half anchor]

eu

[dapper heron]

i thought we could be friends in game

[valid anchor]

yeah, cross-server friend list is not possible (yet)

[dapper heron]

if they were in asian server*

any asian server player here wanna be friends ?

in game?

[quaint fern]

Yeah honestly I would probably pull this of they dropped this now

Well actually depends if I want to use xianyun long term but her ER reqs are soo high 😭

Cuz like I've been meaning to either fix my gaming, pull a new pyro DPS, or get c6 Chevy for xiangling OL

[lyric cargo]

my c6 Ga Ming has as of yet failed to impress me
so I think I'm a bit skeptical of him now

the last time I had hope he'd do something useful was when the turtle was in stygian

slow hitting elemental damage sounded like just his thing

I ended up clearing with this instead, Ga Ming failed completely

maybe I can justify rerolling his sands to have 0 missed rolls
9-liner with 3 useful subs for him

(Nefer confiscating it as an off-piece if it rolls crit, being the motivating thought )

[keen willow]

Next year

[lyric cargo]

when you c6 and his plunge damage stays the same

[bright cape]

i have been getting weird artifacts

[lyric cargo]

almost perfect, just missing ER

but a good piece regardless

at least if she's c6

[bright cape]

she's c6. but i got zero anemo dps

i dunno what to do with her

[lyric cargo]

I guess she's not that meta relevant at the moment, that getting c6 would be a priority
the likes of Xiao and Wanderer being left behind

Varka, save us
(I have a feeling they'll make it so he needs some new signature support rather than Faru, if recent chars are any indication)

[lyric cargo]

same situation on my account

[bright cape]

i have a feeling varka's team wouldn't even have her

[lyric cargo]

could be, yeah

she's a great support, but if they want him to not use her they'll find a way

[quaint fern]

Yeah I've tried him in the past but starting with zero ER really sucks with him

[lyric cargo]

he reminds me of Raiden

needs burst, fixed max rotation length

and regains energy over the burst duration

[lyric cargo]

against Herra in stygian, can Fav not proc until it's finished its initial landing animation?

I concluded Nahida and Lauma don't have enough ER to get their bursts from my initial shortened "gauge break" rotation
Nahida E
Aino EQ
Nefer E CD CD CD

so I gave Nahida fav, but it never procs unless I wait unreasonably long

trying to clear dire Herra with Nefer right now

4hp dodgeball

(any damage is permanent, since I moved Nahida from p-amber to fav)

[lyric cargo]

moved back to p-amber since it seems I need to do a slightly longer first rotation anyways

it's definitely doable, but I need to squeeze out damage without buffs at the end
if I used burst instead of waiting for verdant dew, I probably had it

[stiff latch]

Probably me just being bad but I hate fighting these things. Any tips that might make things easier for me?

[lyric cargo]

is that a single one, or two?

[stiff latch]

2

[lyric cargo]

I've seen people group them up by running to the edge of the arena

but that's in theater / abyss

maybe the arena size is different here

nothing else, really
they might have some pneuma / ousia machanic, but I'm not aware what it is

[rugged sparrow]

it's just if u hit them with arkhe, they instantly lose all their elemental shield

doesnt matter too much since u just brute force them

[viral mulch]

anime protagonist fight

[viral mulch]

just damage pretty much
the actual dendro attacks of those are close to impossible to fully dodge if youre in close range so better for ur sanity to just tank it with heals or smth

ig u can burn the shield too

[bright cape]

very close

[tender pawn]

whats arkhe

can i do it with furina?

[quaint fern]

Just normal attack them

Tho idk if you'll be able to hit both

[tender pawn]

thank you

[quaint fern]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Arkhe

[viral mulch]

irrelevant nightsoul

[lyric cargo]

0:35
one thing I don't like about Nefer
is when I try to swap to Nahida and use Nahida E
and it uses Nefer E instead, wasting a stack

basically if swapping doesn't work immediately
I have a habit of pressing the swap key and E over and over until it registers the swap

normally that works fine, as the active char's E will be on cooldown

[quaint fern]

Nightsoul without the shill

[small oyster]

Can anyone solo help with the liyue domain, US server?

[bright cape]

UID?

[bright cape]

it says player not found

[small oyster]

gimme a sec
656603220

[small oyster]

found u

[bright cape]

sorry i was away

[violet cipher]

how is this puzzle supposed to work?

[rugged sparrow]

it's not a puzzle, you need to finish a world quest to open it

[violet cipher]

oh, ok

[rugged sparrow]

I believe it's the one that you're currently doing too, related to that big crab-like robot

[elder bluff]

Bobik

[rugged sparrow]

🅱️o🅱️ik

[dire bridge]

Anyone plz help me with the thuderbird manifestation

890289842

[buoyant cove]

which server are you on

[thorn bay]

Asia

You can see it from the uid

[zealous ledge]

Can anyone explain how exactly Lauma helps clearing this boss? I have her on the team and it doesn't seem to go faster at all

[lyric cargo]

what's the full team? does it have 2 nod-krai units?

those enemies have a mechanic where you have to deplete their max hp bar
which only becomes vulnerable when their regular hp is depleted

so you have to go through multiple phases of depleting the current hp to then hit the max hp a bit

ascendant gleam enhanced abilities make it so the max hp is vulnerable from the start

[zealous ledge]

Only one Nodkrai unit

Lauma, Xq, Kuki and Nahida

I knew about needing a Nodkrai unit, but I didn't know about needing two of them

[crude dirge]

aino instead of xq mayhaps

[zealous ledge]

I was hoping not having to use her... She's level 1 still :(

[crude dirge]

she doesnt have to be leveled

u can just put her on any supportive set

level if u need her for IT or survivability

[lyric cargo]

you likely won't regret leveling her to 70 and giving her a basic artifact set like silken moon, deepwood, or instructor

for theater if nothing else
talents can remain at 1 1 1

[neon wave]

For moonsign you just need 20/40 but she might die on you

[crude dirge]

wait is moonsign A1 locked

[zealous ledge]

Ugh I can't believe I will have an easier time doing this with a bunch of unleveled characters than I'd hhave using my full on C6 raiden national team 😭😭

[lyric cargo]

I'm coming for you
how did it only require one more substat to catch up?

(not the same board I guess, but still. I thought I'd have to reroll multiple pieces)

[crude dirge]

hyperbloom driver

[valid anchor]

Oof. Painful

[neon wave]

No, but her A1 enhances her burst* via ascendant gleam (which is what causes the wild hunt grey bar to deplete)

Her being in the party enables ascendant gleam but it won't actually be applied to her burst* until she's 20/40

[zealous ledge]

I hate this sm

Time to level shitty Aino then ig

[zealous ledge]

So what exactly will she do in this team that makes me beat me so much faster?

Especially if she's at level 70 with shitty/no artifacts

[lyric cargo]

it enables ascendant gleam

which makes the enemies take damage to their max hp all the time

downside is you lose the crit buff to bloom reactions

Lauma will buff lunar bloom crit instead

which there isn't as much of, without Nefer
only Lauma's hold skill deals lunar bloom dmg

[zealous ledge]

So do I even need to have Aino on the field for this?

And what would the ideal team then be? Lauma, Aino, Xq, Kuki?

Or Nahida instead of Xq?

[crude dirge]

if u use a supportive set/fav then u can

[crude dirge]

nahida doesnt do much for lunar bloom except em so ig ye

[zealous ledge]

So Nahida instead of Xq?

[crude dirge]

if u think aino is enough hydro then go on

idk how much hydro she gives

[lyric cargo]

just use her skill and burst
she's an off-field hydro applier

only problem is, her application is circle impact

[zealous ledge]

Trying it rn

I can't believe it worked

Feels kind of... odd. Just putting Aino on the field 3 times in the entire fight, just pressing E + Q and swapping out. Doing nothing else besides that. And it completely outperforms other team that are fully C6R5

😐

Anyway tysm @lyric cargo @crude dirge

[lyric cargo]

that's the shill, yeah

she does provide hydro for blooms, but it's otherwise worse than Yelan of course

and on other chambers, it tanks your damage since you no longer have Lauma's bloom reaction crit passive

[viral mulch]

also most c6 are bad now cus they too old

[zealous ledge]

Yes and that pains me

Might as well never go for cons anymore atp

[lyric cargo]

I think there's mostly a divide between pre-natlan cons and post-natlan cons

pre-natlan, the best cons were:

• Raiden c2
  (had to go through a useless c1, and the char at c0 just isn't strong. so c2 Raiden isn't necessarily better than a c0 nowadays)
• Nahida c2
  (had to go through a useless c1)
• Neuv c1
• Furina c1, c2

maybe some higher cons were ok as well, but that's even more of the going through bad cons issue

[lyric cargo]

do you happen to know the timing for when the frost operative re-shields? is it a fixed interval after the last shield got broken?

[viral mulch]

think its 20s timer
usually its after 3 attacks unless its ai dies and just stares at u for a while

then its 2 attacks

[lyric cargo]

so basically if you can kill it in 2 shield phases
you need to kill each shield in like 50s 🤔

3 shield phases would leave you with 80s / 3 ~= 27s per shield phase

[zealous ledge]

:/

Hate

[lyric cargo]

basically I'd have never recommended getting most cons pre-natlan

I think it was a mistake, even at the time?

I somewhat regretted getting Nahida c2, even though that was somewhat defensible in comparison

and now with Nefer she actually has a meta team (for how long?)

a very expensive one, as it seems to want you to get Lauma c1 for sustain 😅

[zealous ledge]

I mean I guess you're right

My thought process back then was like

I can get "the new character" every patch and no cons that can barely deal with abyss, or I can build two insanely strong teams that can deal with anything

The reason I built teams was solely to deal with end game

Not knowing that, in the future, they'd release certain hateful mechanics which require "the new characters"

So now I'm stuck with even pre Inazuma characters with multiple cons that are now... useless... kind of

[viral mulch]

they kinda just want you to c0r1 everything instead of c6ing someone and skipping others

[lyric cargo]

that's somewhat similar to my reasoning behind c2 r1 Mavuika
she's supposed to be like a joker who can clear any of the 3 bosses on fearless

we'll see how long that holds true for her

[zealous ledge]

I will pray for you <3

[lyric cargo]

at lower investment, she could likely beat bosses she's meant to, but not others

at c2r1 I should get to choose where I use her
so when there's a boss I don't have the shilled char for, I get to put her there

[viral mulch]

i have seen whales with like 10 c6s malding they cant clear dire

[zealous ledge]

I might just start pulling every new character then

Like, I don't have Neuvi and I was trying to save for hsi rerun

But at that point he might even be outdated already

[lyric cargo]

I don't think it's sustainable, tbh

what I do is, go for teams that don't have support overlap
so I can actually use them at the same time

Mavuika needs Bennett, so I'd likely not go for another on-fielder that needs him

Mavuika Citlali Bennett [filler]
Skirk Furina Escoffier [filler]
Nefer Lauma [Nahida] [Columbina?]
Varesa Chevreuse Iansan [off-field pyro]

those would all have no overlap, for example
I only have team 1 and 3, but I could see going for all 4

I didn't go for Skirk because she'd take Furina from Neuv
but not sure how long he'll be able to clear one of the three bossess well enough to be that considerate to him ^^

besides specific teams with no overlap, I'd mostly go for supports
like Escoffier, Citlali, Furina, Ineffa, Lauma

all of those are reasonable pickups even if you don't have full teams for them

[zealous ledge]

I see

Thank you for the tips

No more pulling for cons ig

[lyric cargo]

I do think it's defensible when it's for a strong, recent team with no overlap

just, you also want to be able to go wide enough to have 3 teams

[zealous ledge]

But primos are so... valuable, you know

I hate knowing I have wasted it on something that is now useless

[lyric cargo]

it kinda seems to me like teams get maintained for 2 regions

the region they come out, and the region after

when the next region after that comes out, they'll quickly find themselves struggling

Fontaine teams are now in trouble
though Arle is still doing okay I think, even when not shilled?

only issue is Arle uses Bennett who another newer team might want?

[zealous ledge]

I love how benny and xq are just so staple

Even though they came out years ago

[lyric cargo]

to be fair, xq is mostly brought out when you really need strong hydro application

his rotation length is where most teams prefer other options

some newer teams can still use him, but would need to put him on sac and alternate using skill / burst
relying on his orbitals for hydro application rather than normal attacks

[lyric cargo]

for this stygian for example
it's kinda extreme in that there are two lunar-shill bosses
so having one lunar reaction team isn't enough

if you got Lauma and Ineffa, you're likely fine

I only got Lauma, so even though I got Nefer as well I don't technically have 2 shilled teams

[crude dirge]

abyss first half team?

i cant even kill herra in 4 minutes..

[rugged sparrow]

already gave u rec yesterday and didn't work?

[crude dirge]

not really

[rugged sparrow]

unluck

[crude dirge]

or im just messing up the infusion

https://tenor.com/view/dog-puppy-silly-silly-dog-eyes-gif-10708604210797057779

should i try nahida collei yelan kuki

yelan to infuse

[royal storm]

is there a way to retrieve ur username information? i forgot mine

[rugged sparrow]

I mean u can try

[royal storm]

where?

[rugged sparrow]

not replying to u

bad timing

[royal storm]

mb xD

[crude dirge]

the only problem is my collei lvl 60

[lyric cargo]

do you know the email you used to register? you can log in using that

[royal storm]

yes, but i want to know my username

[crude dirge]

hoyolab maybe

[lyric cargo]

wouldn't you see it once you log in?

or do you not mean your traveler's name

[royal storm]

not that. im talking about the one u can use to log in

[thorn bay]

Your mail

[royal storm]

where?

[thorn bay]

??

Its your mail

[royal storm]

ohh u mean email???

[thorn bay]

Ye

[royal storm]

but i set the username and i forgot it and wanted to know that coz i forgot

[thorn bay]

I don’t know

I think you can log in with your mail

[royal storm]

okay thanks