📌gimshim-help

[half anchor]

flower needs an upgrade and its the most accessible asw

[dapper heron]

asw?

[half anchor]

as well

[dapper heron]

hehe

WIP

omg..

[half anchor]

lmao

[dapper heron]

atleast its better than previos one right?

[half anchor]

yeah i'd say so

u lose 3 crit rate but u still have like 90 crit rate cus of obsidian

[dapper heron]

ya that makes sense a lot hehe

its 180 CD now

while fighting

does the build of chascas team mates affect her dmg output? current team is chasca furina benny furina

furina and layla is pretty weak also WIP

[half anchor]

furina and bennett give her big buffs

layla is there for less interruption ig

[dapper heron]

ya her shield is good

[dapper heron]

i mean other than there atk bonus buff, does factors like there atck or hp or anything affect chascas dmg?

[half anchor]

i mean bennett's attack buff is based off his base attack (meaning only his base atk+weapon atk and not artifact stats)

so level bennett's burst a bunch

for furina u just need to level her burst a lot asw
u need a lot of ER in this team asw

[dapper heron]

well ya i know that much

furina just need alot of hp right? with er? she and layla uses fav sword

[half anchor]

furina's hp doesn't affect her buff
if u want her to do a lot of sub dps then u can build hp on her, but u also need to make sure u have enough er at the same time

and her damage scaling off hp means she doesn't get the bennett buff so i wouldn't say its worth it

[bright cape]

is damage good?

[half anchor]

no it sucks u shud be doing 1 million

[bright cape]

after getting columbina. it will be possible

[uncut whale]

Hey guys whose constellation should I get objectively speaking?

[hazy lotus]

why does he tell you to observe and then to close your eyes is he stupid

[half anchor]

do u have any meta dpses
cus if so i'd just say mona

[dapper heron]

isnt this where the aranara that sells the sapwood blade blueprint should be? why cant i find him 🙁

[half anchor]

u probably have to do a quest

[dapper heron]

i completed the woodland something quest, or are there more quests

[bright cape]

https://tenor.com/view/flins-chibi-flins-genshin-flins-genshin-chibi-flins-genshin-impact-flins-gif-12469272969410365024

[uncut whale]

All of my current characters including , aino , lan yan ororon, chevaruse

[bright cape]

he is

[dapper heron]

nvm hes there now

[viral mulch]

flins
backwards
ineffa 🗣️

[dapper heron]

for benny is r1 sapwood enough?

[viral mulch]

yea

[dapper heron]

any other characters that use it? i can make 2

[rugged sparrow]

just focus one thing at a time

[dapper heron]

hehe

why is it better on him than favsword?

[rugged sparrow]

high base atk + ER sub

Fav has lowest base atk for 4-star weap

[dapper heron]

[viral mulch]

fav
backwards
aquila favonia

[rugged sparrow]

low base atk = Benny's buff is sad

[dapper heron]

yaa makes sense

what was his artifact stats again? all hp and er?

[rugged sparrow]

all ER

[dapper heron]

only er?

alr sir

worth reshaping? (chasca piece)

[rugged sparrow]

rather wait for 4-liners

that's only 3-liner starter

[dapper heron]

whats 3 liner and 4 liner

[rugged sparrow]

5-star artifacts can sometimes start with 4 subs already available

[rugged sparrow]

like your flower here is a 3-liner

and thus needing to be +4 to get the 4th sub

[dapper heron]

ooh so like its lvls substat 5 times

[rugged sparrow]

yep

3-liner only gets 4 total upgrades on the subs

[dapper heron]

hoow good is this?

copared to this

[rugged sparrow]

it's not bad

your previous flower is definitely worse

5 useful subs vs. 8 useful subs

EM is pretty okay on Chasca since she still vapes/melts (or god forbid you play some cursed Chasca team)

[dapper heron]

my team is chasca furina benny layla

[rugged sparrow]

yes ik

it's more to diss Sensi cuz he plays weird ass Chasca team just because

[dapper heron]

sometimes i do chasca yelan dioan baidue

[rugged sparrow]

[dapper heron]

or even more lol only when am exploring

[rugged sparrow]

seek therapy

[dapper heron]

overworld benefits 😄

[bright cape]

i didn't expect chasca to be that good

[dapper heron]

dude the way she just sweeps up steep hills is just

[rugged sparrow]

in what sense

for Natlan overworld exploration she's kinda unmatched I think

[bright cape]

her bullets getting distributed

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

ow mobs die super easy

ppl just optimize for mobility most of the time

[bright cape]

i am just mad people don't hate her gameplay as much as neuvillette

i think it's even drier

[dapper heron]

whats wrong with her, i like it alot

mainly how she infuses other elements in her bullets

[bright cape]

and i also like neuvillette.

[dapper heron]

which is better for chasca?

[dapper heron]

who said neuv is bad😂 , i plan on pulling for him, thats why i even got furina this time

o wait u said gameplay my bad

[bright cape]

he is good.

[dapper heron]

still he aint that bad

[haughty lotus]

chainbreaker. and dont use that website, there is a build guide in the pins

[dapper heron]

water canon 🌊 , op

[dapper heron]

oh, hehe thanks

[bright cape]

although i would hold if u r going for meta regions

new dps are much better than him

[dapper heron]

maybe mavuika? idk.. i like her as well, skirk too but dont they need there specific 5 star supports:? like xilonen and citlalo for mavuika, escofir for skirtk?

[quaint fern]

Welcome to 2025

[dapper heron]

i survived as a yoimiya main till i got chasca.

[quaint fern]

Everyone needs a niche 5* support now

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[dapper heron]

[quaint fern]

Back in the day it was a c6 4*, which is arguably worse imo

[bright cape]

i think it was always like that

[dapper heron]

wait what

[bright cape]

newer dps work well with 4 stars too

it's just they work a bit more with their dedicated

[crude snow]

Frfr... Faruzan, Gorou, Kujou Sara....

[dapper heron]

i would just run national team everytime

[dapper heron]

[onyx pawn]

Uh guys

[dapper heron]

hi

[onyx pawn]

Am i doing something wrong with nefer

She doesnt wanna do proper damage

[crude snow]

What's her team and build?

[onyx pawn]

Her build could use some more crit rate but for the rest id say its pretty good

Whats the site again

To show your genshin builds

[rugged sparrow]

enka.network

[onyx pawn]

Thank youuu

[crude snow]

Team and supports matter a lot, r u running her with Lauma?

[onyx pawn]

Dont have her sadly

[onyx pawn]

So i expect her to do less but not only 20-30k..

[crude snow]

Aino?

[onyx pawn]

I switch with aino and furina

Then i use yao yao and kuki

Any tips?

[crude snow]

Just make sure one of ur team members is holding deepwood and SMS?

Also Yaoyao and kuki is a bit too much healing so maybe replace Kuki with off-field hydro app like Xingqiu or Yelan.

Ur best bet at hitting a higher number is probs to pull for Lauma tbh.

[onyx pawn]

But ive seen people hit over 100k no lauma

[onyx pawn]

And thanks ill try this

But do i js get a normal attack in each time i use a charged attack or?

[crude snow]

U can dash cancel if u have enough stamina.

[onyx pawn]

How does that work

[crude snow]

Charge atk, dash, charge atk, etc...

[hazy lotus]

if you don’t have lauma you basically have to run aino with her to get the ascendant gleam

[hazy lotus]

you’re prob not gonna see these numbers unless you at least have nahida

[ember bay]

does skirk, coffee, yelan, and mona work

dehya appeared instead of furina 💔

[half anchor]

is arlecchino overload better than mono pyro? cus i've been testing it and my mono pyro team seems to way outperform the overload but i only hear ppl talk abt overload or melt
overload: ben chev fisch ~ 75-80k normals
mono: ben xilo kazu ~ 105-110k normals
|my arle is lv 80 unascended with lv 8 talents
she also has an atk% goblet rn cus i don't have an onset pyro goblet yet
my chevreuse is c0 34k hp instead of 40k hp|

i get that if i equipped song of days past, got 40k hp on chevreuse, and used a pyro goblet instead(cus chev benny alr give enough atk), the overload team would perform better than it is rn, but it still seems to substantial of a difference idk

[hazy lotus]

overload very much appreciates c6 chevy + you’re getting dmg bonus in the second team to compensate for your lack of pyro goblet

[half anchor]

oh fuck on second read i've realised the 20% dmg bonus has 3 stacks 🥀

[hazy lotus]

second team is also solely buffing arle while first team takes fischls dmg contribution into account

[half anchor]

i thought her c6 only gives 20% bonus in total

[half anchor]

thanks

looks like i aint getting c6 chevy in a long time

[opal surge]

arle isnt the only character doing damage in overload

she is the only one in mono

also overload does reaction damage

[lyric cargo]

what it takes is basically a banner that has her, where you don't mind getting cons on the 5★

even then, it's not guaranteed of course. average is like 30+ wishes per copy of the 4★ I believe, but there's no guarantee

or multiple banners over time

[bright cape]

it's usually raiden

[hazy lotus]

she was on varesa debut banner wasn’t she

maybe she’ll be on rerun too

[bright cape]

yah. she was

[heavy zealot]

Is there anyone I NEED on this banner? I already have Zhongli I do not have Lan Yan yet

[forest venture]

do you need a dps? arle is just right on the corner

[heavy zealot]

I have the pyro archon so I guess the answer is no

[forest venture]

so there isn't anyone you need in the banner

[heavy zealot]

But I have her children so it is very tempting but I want Durin

[bright cape]

save

durin's right around the corner

[heavy zealot]

Ok save it is because I want the dragon

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/910310147321102346.webp?size=240&animated=true

[heavy zealot]

We can activate nightsoul right?

[quaint fern]

no plat this time?

disappointing

[midnight mulch]

guys, can you help me guide the rotation / combo in this team?

im still learning how to use nefer

also how many crit rate nefer needed if she use her sign weapon and i have lauma but dont have lauma sign weapon...

[lone breach]

choose

[dapper heron]

what am i looking for here?

[crimson plover]

have u tried walking around the statues

[dapper heron]

nah i did it,

guys from official server helped

[crimson plover]

so you were supposed to walk around the statues

[lyric cargo]

last two have not been:

I think it's basically any pyro/electro that can run in overload

[lyric cargo]

who is it for, and on which team?

I assume it's too late now anyways

[dapper heron]

i didnt know these saurian had elemental sight

[elder bluff]

Holy moly my first 1% char 😂

[crude dirge]

34 rolls is top 10 in the world?

[opal surge]

37 is the literal max

Why would 34 not be up there

[lyric cargo]

you can enable more digits in the settings 😅

I bet it's a lot better than top 1%

[lyric cargo]

time to reroll my pieces for leaderboard impact? ^^

[lyric cargo]

oh, it put you on the board without c2 Nahida and me with c2. makes sense
so we're technically not getting a direct comparison here

[lyric cargo]

is leveling the burst this much before crowning skill optimal, btw?

first levels are cheaper, so maybe

I think Lauma's talents might be more important than Nefer's, btw?
is yours double crowned yet? I'm still working on it

Nefer lvl10 lunar bloom talent scaling is 172.8% EM + 172.8% EM + 230.4% EM
Lauma lvl10 burst adds 400.032% of Lauma's EM to each of those?
so 172.8% EM + 172.8% EM + 230.4% EM + 1200.096% Lauma EM

lunar bloom EM multiplier is 1 + 6 / (1 + 2000 / EM), scaling with Nefer's EM

172.8% EM + 172.8% EM + 230.4% EM vs 1200.096% Lauma EM
there's just more motion value on Lauma's burst for Nefer than there is on Nefer's skill it seems

[elder bluff]

no, the damage is calculated with only artifacts

[lyric cargo]

oh no, I meant for ingame. not leaderboard

I know it's calculated only with artifacts and akasha's assumptions

[elder bluff]

also no, burst doesn't really matter

[lyric cargo]

my other flower scores slightly higher

I thought the team might have enough EM buffs that the better crit ratio is more important
but apparently no

[lyric cargo]

probably more important to get my Lauma more EM than to chase the Nefer score

[half anchor]

how much of a raw dmg increase is c1 arle after buffs

[thorn bay]

C1 Doesn’t improve dmg
It’s qol

Ig technically you get little bit more hits faster not having to dodge or knocked out but

[opal surge]

What

[opal surge]

It's her best damage con pre c6

[opal surge]

26-28%

Can be less depending on team

[rugged sparrow]

the first line literally says it improves her Masque of Red Death state

[lyric cargo]

EM is actually a bigger increase than crit dmg here apparently
assuming it does these calcs correctly

(akasha's assumptions match my own team exactly, except I don't have c1 on Aino)

[thorn bay]

Oh it’s out?

[lone breach]

it's okay. both options are much better than the original 3x hp. i choose the crit rate one for nahida to get her echo (still trying to get it)

[elder bluff]

Technically I can but...

[thorn bay]

Hehehe

The domain won’t have anything

[lyric cargo]

I'm farming the things I couldn't really do during the first 10 days of styigan now

Lauma 1 10 10, Nefer 1 10 9

[lyric cargo]

I'm somewhat scared to overcap crit rate if I reroll artifacts ^^
your goblet is such a god piece
it's funny you got flower, plume, goblet to roll like that without rerolling once

[thorn bay]

I think my talents are fine for now

I still need to farm them

[pastel zealot]

whats an early game team i can build

[crude dirge]

diluc ifa xiangling bennett

[pastel zealot]

why ifa tho

[lyric cargo]

drop diluc, add ttds barbara

[crude dirge]

why cant ifa have ttds

[lyric cargo]

he's a pretty comfortable on-fielder for overworld
comes with movement utility as well

[lyric cargo]

ifa is the char you want to buff with it

[crude dirge]

are u tryna make him main dps

[lyric cargo]

this is ttds, btw:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Thrilling_Tales_of_Dragon_Slayers

[lyric cargo]

yes

he's pretty comfy if you're not playing against endgame content

[pastel zealot]

im a restarter dw

[lyric cargo]

think Chasca, basically

flies out of enemy range and hold down mouse button to deal damage

[pastel zealot]

im tryna get arlecchino

she's cool af

[lyric cargo]

hoping for a chevreuse rerun I assume?

and Fischl

[pastel zealot]

hmm what abt arlec benny xl xq

[lyric cargo]

xl would steal the vapes

xq is okay, his cooldowns are a bit long but otherwise he's basically Yelan

[crude dirge]

ifa instead of xl?

[lyric cargo]

on what team, Arle?
they're both on-fielders, I wouldn't run Ifa I think

[pastel zealot]

this my weap roster btw

[crude dirge]

who for arle then

[lyric cargo]

Bennett Chevreuse Fischl, if they can
otherwise just Xq for now

[crude dirge]

with the characters they have

[pastel zealot]

i may try to get arle then fischl and chev subsequently

for now i need a sorta stable team

[crude dirge]

otherwise obviously sucrose would be better

[lyric cargo]

don't think xq vape beats overload, oven without cons on chevreuse

[pastel zealot]

so ifa barbara xl benny for now

[lyric cargo]

hmm, they don't have xq either
I think you just go monopyro then but it won't feel great

[pastel zealot]

im saving starglitters for xq

[lyric cargo]

yeah
Barbara is kinda replaceable, I picked her because she can heal you up out of combat
I assume Bennett will struggle with ER for now

[pastel zealot]

hmm fair enuf

[lyric cargo]

alternatively Kaeya melt, but at c0 you'd likely have to hold back your pyro application and delay hits to avoid pyro taking over

[pastel zealot]

so i should try get xq to replace barbara

[lyric cargo]

you could replace Xiangling, I assume she won't get to burst that often early game

if you get xq I mean

not that xq will get to burst a lot either

and even though Xq Barb is double hydro, Barb doesn't generate particles

[crude dirge]

fav

[lyric cargo]

might just go Xq Candace for more hydro particles, but pre c6 Candace is kinda cope otherwise I think

[lyric cargo]

any fav or sac weapons would help, yeah

[pastel zealot]

gotchu

[uncut herald]

What’s the max cap in ucg

I thought it was lvl 20 but THERES MORE?!

[opal surge]

i dunno if there is one

wiki provides exp data until lvl 24 but it doesnt seem to say that its the cap, just that the exp needed for 25 isnt known?

(or not updated yet)

[uncut herald]

NOOO SAY IT AINT SO

Ig the current max is 24. Like AR 60 all over again

[bright cape]

there's max?

[uncut herald]

I mean it’s like weekly capped

[bright cape]

i want some 2d platformers. sadly looks like it's not very versatile sandbox

[uncut herald]

Someone did flappy bird so side view is definitely doable. Probably just takes more effort? Definitely there’s not many variation rn

[bright cape]

yep. hope it gets better over time

also do u guys also get to do columbina weekly on thursday?

[elder bluff]

not everyone is on thursday

[bright cape]

i am done with skirk for now. @quaint fern

while building this skirk, i realized
may be i should put navia on MH too. thoughts?

with tenacity furina, it would be great

[dawn folio]

what should I use? im playing her as a buffer

or should I craft prototype star glitter

This is just till I can get fav lance

[quaint fern]

MH navia has always been a thing tho I think

[bright cape]

i think i should stop on skirk now right?

[quaint fern]

I mean yeah that's pretty good

If you have other things to farm, more power to you

[lyric cargo]

I believe it's just a 24 * 7 hour cooldown
I do mine on monday, together witht he other weekly stuff (parametric transformer, etc)
I wish it was all on weekly reset like Escoffier cooking

[bright cape]

wow. ur lines up pretty well

[quaint fern]

I always forget to do my selenic chronicle

I should do my third one LOL

[bright cape]

if I give MH to navia too. all I have left would be tenacity and noblesse

[lyric cargo]

I just forgot it one week and started doing it again with the other weekly stuff

[lyric cargo]

Monday reminder:
parametric transformer
Escoffier cooking
teapot shop
Columbina
Investment Coupons
nefer intel
weekly bosses

[bright cape]

i wanna bring navia to below 10% too.

[quaint fern]

You could just box nighttime

[bright cape]

oh yah. that too.

rn my navia is just a geo shield breaker for my neuvillette team

with fav she works pretty well

[quaint fern]

Yk if she didn't want Bennett Furina I would pull

[bright cape]

she is my only geo dps.

[quaint fern]

But I'm thinking that chiori is probably just better if I want a good Geo char

Wheelchair with xilo chiori

[bright cape]

she is subdps though

[quaint fern]

It's fine

[bright cape]

i want dps from every element

[quaint fern]

You never really need a on fielder geo

[bright cape]

only anemo is left now

[bright cape]

for legatus golem, it's nice

[quaint fern]

Noelle zhongli is sufficient for theatre

Don't speak it into existence for SO

That patch would 100% have a new geo dps

[bright cape]

i am hoping sandrone to be great subdps for navia

and may be some shilled boss for her

[thorn bay]

Nefer leaderboard is just not gud

Supports give so much crit rate that f2p team builds no gud

[bright cape]

u don't have her set though.

[thorn bay]

Ye

It only gives 30

[bright cape]

they take set into account

[thorn bay]

Ye

That’s why it’s bad

[bright cape]

i think at first just go for full set.

just correct main stat is fine

use one good off-piece

[quaint fern]

So why are you complaining?

Obv her leaderboard is going to assume the sig set for top 1%

[bright cape]

how bad is burst skirk with MH compared to finale?

[half anchor]

ty

[quaint fern]

It's basically the same isn't it

Idk my Skirk calcs

[bright cape]

MH only gives normal and charged atk dmg %.
finale has some for burst too

[opal surge]

its 15% damage bonus different than NA skirk idk

burst only skirk is already so bad its not really worth discussing

unless you genuinely want to use her as subdps for neuv but whats really the point

[crimson plover]

It's always been simming roughly equal

[opal surge]

link the sim

but please dont make it the one rotation freeze speedrun sim

[rugged sparrow]

I'm guessing they meant MH and Finale is similar like

not directly referring to hpycndl's question

then again treez probs also misinterpreted the question in the first place

[bright cape]

i heard there are ways to use burst skirk and normal in some ways

[rugged sparrow]

there is but not separately

[opal surge]

you can hE in stall and then do setup -> q E NA combo on skirk

but no finale is not significantly better than mare here

[rugged sparrow]

you don't do burst only unless youre doing like solo c6 Skirk runs

[opal surge]

its worth noting that NA skirk has significant room for skill expression in combo and depending on what kind of combos youre doing assumptions will differ wildly still

comparing burst only to NA

[rugged sparrow]

I'm still flabbergasted by that c0r0 Skirk dire clear

gcsim ahh combo

[bright cape]

which one?

[opal surge]

herra

[rugged sparrow]

this

bro's doing n2 walk combo seamlessly

weaponized mental illness

[opal surge]

me when skirk vs mavuika batting comes down to would you rather q e n2dn2dn2dn2dn3wn2dn2dn3wn2cdn2dn3wn2dn2 or ca q cadca2dca3fwca2fdcaf

[rugged sparrow]

the strongest ca q cadca2dca3fwca2fdcaf of history vs. the strongest ca q cadca2dca3fwca2fdcaf of today

[opal surge]

It's unfortunately not even mavuikas ceiling combo but this one looks funnier written down like this

Therefore we go with this one

[rugged sparrow]

probably still beats Skirk's ceiling rot too

which fits the meme

[opal surge]

It does yeah

[crude dirge]

is arle yelan benny kazuha stronger than arle cheuv(c0) benny fischl

[rugged sparrow]

c0 Chev

[crimson plover]

Vape shld be stronger

[rugged sparrow]

unlucky

[crimson plover]

Vape is already stronger with C6 chev I believe

[crude dirge]

and i dont think i even got her that long ago🥀

[crimson plover]

Unless some calls changed again

[rugged sparrow]

probably yeah

[bright cape]

that was really cool

also skirk was using MH

and with very low crit rate

[opal surge]

3 cryo

[rugged sparrow]

impossible cryo aura though no

[bright cape]

but hydro aura is permanent on herra no?

[rugged sparrow]

it's probably just a little critfishing

[bright cape]

does that weapon give crit rate?

[rugged sparrow]

oh Eshu

yeah Eshu gives cr

[rugged sparrow]

16%

they're basically sitting at 97%

[bright cape]

damn. then she was effectively at 97% cr

[dapper heron]

if only it went all into cd, chasca off piece

[rugged sparrow]

still better than whatever you're using right now

I remember your current goblet is like 3 crit rolls total and the rest to flat atk

[opal surge]

o ye true

[rugged sparrow]

honse

[bright cape]

i am surprised how good eshu is with shielder

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[dapper heron]

ye this one lol

[dapper heron]

yta i agree this is better

[rugged sparrow]

lowest cdmg roll, 2 lowest cr rolls + 1 low cr roll

[dapper heron]

both are good piece if i could reshape?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean I wouldn't reshape the TF goblet

[dapper heron]

TF?

[rugged sparrow]

Thundering Fury

it's only 1 missed sub

[bright cape]

also did that player purposefully gimp escoffier damage
so it would get hydro aura?

[dapper heron]

but i dont want cr, i want more cd, since am using obisidian codex dont get i get free 40 cr anyway?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean look at it this way

[quaint fern]

What the helly. I've just been doing n5Qn5dn3Cdn5cdn3c

[rugged sparrow]

you can waste your dust and get worse rolls

[bright cape]

also what website is that?
looks like they have some sort of rankings.

[rugged sparrow]

or the same roll

[quaint fern]

Also yes I did misinterpret the earlier question

[rugged sparrow]

it's old enka, forgot the name

but I wouldn't bother since enka/akasha is good already

[crude dirge]

maybe thats cv?

[dapper heron]

fair, ok i wont reshape lol

[bright cape]

nah.

[rugged sparrow]

it can only be better if your reshape rolls more cdmg which is like, slim chance

[dapper heron]

i onlt need to replace this shit now

[bright cape]

did u see that skirk clear?

[crude dirge]

i have two 4 liner double crit sands on glad and wt and idk what to reroll

[quaint fern]

No?

[bright cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKaTe4uWfSI

[rugged sparrow]

probably optimal too for Skirk's dmg

also energy

[dapper heron]

reshape this?

[quaint fern]

Oh did they front load Skirk burst and then instantly do na combos

[rugged sparrow]

same answer as yesterday personally
it's only 3-liner so ehh

[crude dirge]

which of these sands do i reroll first

[dapper heron]

aah fair , more arts farming later i guess,

[rugged sparrow]

the char you use more

[quaint fern]

Starting out with a hE > swap is diabolical

[crude dirge]

arle so glad i think

[bright cape]

yep

but not fully frontload

[crude dirge]

i just had only those screenshots of these sands

[dapper heron]

also furina need hp hp hp? the ingame arts recommendations shows more poeple using cd in circlet than hp. which sould i go for?

[crude dirge]

hp hp cr

[rugged sparrow]

her general setup is HP or ER/HP/Cr or cdmg

triple HP does worse dmg than her standard setup

[dapper heron]

how much hp she need at like lvl 90?

[crude dirge]

in what scenario do u use cd

[dapper heron]

ooh..

[crude dirge]

mh on fielder?

[rugged sparrow]

why MH on-fielder

[crude dirge]

why cd

[rugged sparrow]

it's just 1:2 ratio

[crude dirge]

wouldnt more consistent fav proc be better

[rugged sparrow]

I'd be running some stupid ratio like 100:120 if I run cr

[rugged sparrow]

it's not like she has trouble proccing it? idk

maybe for r1 Fav users

[dapper heron]

hm maybe ill use this as a base for my builds

[crude dirge]

i have r3

sometimes it just doesnt proc with 80+ cr

[rugged sparrow]

unlucky

you usually just do Edn1Q

instead of EdQ

if you still don't proc Fav that way I think u just bench your Furina

[crude dirge]

Edn2q and it still doesnt proc every 3rd rotation

[rugged sparrow]

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-paw-explode-cat-explode-paw-slam-gif-8717257267302566985

[bright cape]

it's really good to show others team build. very compact.
also it's powered by enka.

[rugged sparrow]

ah I see

[bright cape]

i found out the website. https://paimon.plus/en/artifacter/

[bright cape]

also it's really nice they just don't rate artifact by cv or roll value

they actually have weights

[rugged sparrow]

wot

[bright cape]

like my flins flower has over 800% roll value. but it's only B

[rugged sparrow]

how is that nice

[bright cape]

while his sands is SS despite being low roll value

[rugged sparrow]

yk it just rates cv right

[bright cape]

ok. may be it's just cv

i thought it was very smart

[rugged sparrow]

RV >>>

only brainrotted individuals use cv nowadays unless your char has no other useful subs

looks at Nefer

[bright cape]

i was thinking of priority based
like cr,cd > atk > em > er for flins

[rugged sparrow]

ER>

[bright cape]

oh yah.

may be cr,er upto limit and cd > atk > em

[rugged sparrow]

Flins is just not a unit if he can't burst

[bright cape]

he is such a nice unit

i love this concept of mini burst

i wish raiden had that too

[rugged sparrow]

u mean Eula

[bright cape]

it would be even better if we could have a hold q character

like say eula has 4 charges on her q

and as we press q the bar fills

and if we go all the way, BIG NUKE

[quaint fern]

I can't wait for my 30 atk% circlet to be F rank

[lyric cargo]

hmm, not showing low/high rolls

[quaint fern]

(when will the game give me a 30% atk CD circlet)

[rugged sparrow]

I think B is their lowest rank

[quaint fern]

I WOULD DO ANYTHING

[bright cape]

yah. apparently it's cv based
i was kinda impressed for a while

[quaint fern]

But anyways yeah that's actually pretty nice for condensing teams into a single img

[bright cape]

all kokomi pieces are gonna be D tier 😭

[quaint fern]

I wonder if it's smart enough to rate kok differently

[rugged sparrow]

hahahah

[bright cape]

yah. for sharing n stuff. but it only takes in the current list.
not those saved in enka

[quaint fern]

That's fine honestly

[lyric cargo]

I ignored the letter grade

[rugged sparrow]

SSS+

[bright cape]

i hate how some CCs show their artifact one by one after clearing

i guess it's more authentic

[quaint fern]

I FORGOT SHE'S ON THIS LMAOOOO

I was doing some herra shenanigans the other day

[bright cape]

does she get her burst quickly?

i guess u can push ER even further now

with seranade

[quaint fern]

I don't think it was fast enough

[rugged sparrow]

B

[quaint fern]

Also lowkey a bad slot bc she does like zero dmg with that much er

[bright cape]

her burst alone should be sufficient to fill up herra

[rugged sparrow]

with c2 should be yeah

[quaint fern]

Well yeah but I don't want herra to have cryo aura

[rugged sparrow]

otherwise nop

[quaint fern]

I think I was trying it for dmg + res shred but it didn't work out too well

Shenhe just ended up being better

[bright cape]

i didn't know u bennett burst that early.

the buff must expire midway through arle's rotation

[rugged sparrow]

what even is that rotation on bottom

why Arle E > Bennett E > Yelan EQ

[neon wave]

To feed Bennett I guess? Just give him 300% ER

shouldn't be that bad either way

[rugged sparrow]

it's just kinda weird yeah

Arle E into Bennett catching particles should be plenty already

[lyric cargo]

I think it's just what they're used to
showing build cards would be way better

[turbid widget]

question is this wehere i can ask for help exploring

[lyric cargo]

you can ask, but it kinda ends up being chest spotting duty I think

[turbid widget]

wheres that

[lyric cargo]

no, I mean
you can ask here
but it's not really a productive way to help imo

[turbid widget]

yah jst wanna get a lil explo on nod krai

[lyric cargo]

I heard the main server has a more active coop-help channel

[turbid widget]

so anyone wanna help me

[dapper heron]

for explorations and stuff the main server has more support

[viral mulch]

look at him go

[rugged sparrow]

268k

wheres the nuke on that Natlan scam boss

[viral mulch]

surely his dmg will be relevant after i finish his talents

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

i might have to stop leveling random 4*s after him tho and just save resources

kinda wanna finish til ifa but idk

[rugged sparrow]

naw fuck him

[viral mulch]

lmao

[lyric cargo]

huh, the genshinBuilds Arlecchino page links to this for its detailed weapon calcs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wfNS_hP55Am6sis4aHYt6h34PQAdWv4nuIPuow6RWyA
is the whole sheet based on Monopyro Arle??

[lyric cargo]

because this is the only weapon comparison I see in the sheet

I guess that would make the sheet undervalue weapons that give EM

should still be accurate for overload teams

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

it gives note for SoSS and Ballad

[lyric cargo]

yeah

it seems the full sheet was based on more than just monopyro

I think the detailed calcs I'm looking at were added later, and they didn't recalc everything for it

[viral mulch]

da only truth is that there is no truth

[opal surge]

ur name just looks like oxo in that font

[hazy lotus]

like miffy

[opal surge]

true

[rugged sparrow]

fr but it's my favorite font

[mortal flame]

Arlechino/furina/sucrose/bennett does this team work?

[bright cape]

not quite. remove furina with someone else
ideally yelan
or citlali

[lyric cargo]

Furina's burst gives a dmg% buff that scales with team hp change.
Her skill drains the team's hp, so for the hp to keep changing she wants to be paired with a healer.

But Arle has a passive that prevents anyone from healing her. So they have strong anti-synergy.

While in combat, Arlecchino gains a 40% Pyro DMG Bonus and can only be healed through Balemoon Rising.

[delicate ermine]

tips

[quaint fern]

That doesn't really tell the whole story

[quaint fern]

https://enka.network

Also team and w/e

[delicate ermine]

whar

[balmy cove]

Which build is better? Mualani

[neon harness]

Team?

Probably 1 unless hella em buffs from team

[strange scarab]

hey pooks

did you pull tragodia

[neon harness]

i havent logged in in a while so prolly not lol

[strange scarab]

[quaint fern]

[neon harness]

imma log in now

dont judge

is bud good?

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-hop-on-genshin-sandbina-gif-11879886798102661500

[thorn bay]

[neon harness]

too busy playing that stupid game mode in hsr, i swear im addicted, i havent done genshin comms in a while 😭

[thorn bay]

Why is this the first thing i see

[neon harness]

im trying to cut that game mode out

[quaint fern]

It can't be worse than resetting stygian onslaught

Unless this is like IS in AK

[neon harness]

and to u too pookie, its been a while

[quaint fern]

IS was legit a fun game mode

I would spend WAY too much time on it when I played AL

[neon harness]

😭

[quaint fern]

Dawg wtf is that

[neon harness]

currency wars, hsr

[strange scarab]

hes like virtuosa but nerv impairment i suppose

got him in 10 pulls gg

[neon harness]

it is similar to that, im so cooked, i was also hooked on arknights IS

[neon harness]

sheeeeesh

[forest venture]

👀

[neon harness]

im tempted but i have like 15 pulls lmao, i have good units already so imma skip, maybe a rerun

[forest venture]

a 10 pull wont hurt

[neon harness]

shut, dont feed my gambling addiction

[forest venture]

it's not gambling addiction if you are just pre-farming pity for a character

[elder bluff]

and another 10 pull

[neon harness]

its so tempting to pull

[neon harness]

😭

[elder bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/destino-entrelaçado-genshin-impact-destino-entrelaçado-genshin-genshin-impact-natlan-natlan-gif-12171458802420774520

[strange scarab]

my savings are hurting

[neon harness]

thats so pretty holy tempting

[strange scarab]

and i pretty much farmed every single yellow rocks available rn

[neon harness]

ive been meaning to do that, farm everything, but i barely play rn so that means ill prolly do it later never

[stiff minnow]

Can I run Raiden with Flins alongside Aino and Sucrose ?

[rugged sparrow]

you can
it being a good team is a separate matter

[neon harness]

[rugged sparrow]

wtf is that

[neon harness]

idk

+ =

[stiff minnow]

I know it likely isn’t the best team but I don’t have any other built electro sub-dps rn

[rugged sparrow]

then why ask

you already know the answer and are aware it isn't a good team

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

Kuki might be your best bet, even if not fully built

I see the team is currently without a sustain

[crude dirge]

is collei c6 considered skill damage?

[viral mulch]

wtf

[haughty lotus]

*

[neon harness]

[neon harness]

pookie how i get funni color name

[haughty lotus]

erm I think type .itemshop in the bot channels
this is what I did #bot-playground message

[neon harness]

ig its no longer there, i only see the option to buy weapons and ore

[balmy cove]

How is this Mualani build?

[strange scarab]

use enka.network

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/

[balmy cove]

I’m planning on going for her weapon in her rerun

[tender granite]

hi...

[haughty lotus]

No

[lyric cargo]

I'd keep farming
you'll want a hydro dmg% goblet
also, Mua has many different useful substats (hp%, cd, cd, em)

[balmy cove]

Do you think it’s possible to reach 35k HP without a HP goblet and still balanced out cr/cd and EM stats? Ik her weapon gives her like a 20% HP raise iirc

[lyric cargo]

you can get a flower / plume / goblet with all 4 of them
and sands / circlet with 3

it's not the most likely thing in the world, but none of your 5 pieces have the full number of possible substats yet
so there's quite a bit of improvement left you can make

[lyric cargo]

I wouldn't focus on specific stat goals

[balmy cove]

Ah okay, so pretty much every artifact should have cr/cd/EM/HP% or in case of the sands flat HP

[lyric cargo]

try to get artifacts with the right main stats, and as many useful substats as possible
after that, your next priority is balancing your crit ratio
since your crit dmg is over 200%, you'll want to get as close to 100% CR as possible (after buffs, without overcapping much)

[lyric cargo]

flat hp is less important, it's maybe like a third of an hp% roll if I were to guess

[balmy cove]

Right okay. Tysm I really appreciate the in depth responses 🫶🫶

[lyric cargo]

what matters most is the total number of useful substats, or the roll value if you want to look at that instead

there's an option on enka you can enable to show the rolls

for goblet:
the lines under the stat show how many rolls went into it

the dots tell you how big the roll was:
4 dot = max roll (100%)
3 dot = high roll (90%)
2 dot = low roll (80%)
1 dot = min roll (70%)

there are also pieces with 9 total rolls (they start with 4 rather than 3)

this goblet has 8
I believe 7 of which would be useful for Mualani
ER probably isn't as useful (?)

[lyric cargo]

as for talents, it seems you should focus on skill > burst
the normal attack talent probably gets overridden, so you don't need to invest in it

I don't see Kagura's Verity in the weapon listing, so I have to assume it's worse than other options

[lyric cargo]

do you have a r5 Widsith?

[rugged sparrow]

Kagura is basically just a cdmg circlet for Mua

1 main stat only

it should be better than Widsith buffless if anything

[dapper heron]

guys what if i replace layla from team to someone like kuki or fishcl? (chasca furina benny layla) is it good? for like overload reactions

[crude dirge]

more healing = more fanfares so kuki could be good

[lyric cargo]

ask Sensi

they're the chasca expert here

[dapper heron]

can i ping him?

[crude dirge]

what layla actually gives here

even diona could be better

[dapper heron]

shield and freeze , its good i like the time

[crude dirge]

majority of enemies cant hit u either way

[thorn bay]

Shield

[dapper heron]

with er she can freeze almost constantly when doing a rotations

[crude dirge]

diona that also provides healing to build up fanfares

[dapper heron]

sometimes ya i do use diona as well

what is fanfare ?

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-jump-attack-gif-24628203

[dapper heron]

something related to furina ig

[thorn bay]

Nice freeze team would be furina escoffier citlali

[thorn bay]

It’s furinas main source of buff

[dapper heron]

i dotn have escof or granny

[crude dirge]

xiangling furina bennett

[thorn bay]

Her heal is almost non existent

[haughty lotus]

Why are we diona glazing in 2025

[crude dirge]

bennett cant even heal if above 70%

[crude dirge]

this lad is using layla

[dapper heron]

oi oi thats not true, with correct build she heals decend

[haughty lotus]

And

[crude dirge]

she provides close to nothing

[thorn bay]

Layla is just better in some cases

[haughty lotus]

Shield and cryo app

[rugged sparrow]

if Layla c4 she no diffs Diona

[crude dirge]

shield on character that flies up and has interuption resistance i believe

[dapper heron]

i use layla for her burst

[rugged sparrow]

(who the fuck use Diona anyway)

[dapper heron]

c0 layla 🙂

[rugged sparrow]

unluck

[dapper heron]

me hehe

[crude dirge]

melt diona that hits for 50k each paw🥀

[crude dirge]

i got layla and then citlali a patch later

so shes at level 50

[dapper heron]

am hoping to pull citlali when she reruns in like forever 😂

[crude dirge]

just get ineffa atp bro

[thorn bay]

As a chasca main her interruption resistance is mid and for the enemies do hit her she just wastes so much nightsoul point flopping in the air
If you want do dodge much you also use so much nightsoul point on certain attacks

[rugged sparrow]

Ineffa for Chasca 🗣️ 🔥

[dapper heron]

she reruning anytime son?

[crude dirge]

she should

[thorn bay]

Probably not

[crude dirge]

citlali got reran fast and ineffa still didnt get one

[thorn bay]

Maybe like 4 patches later at minimum

[crude dirge]

if they want to make flins pullers happy

[rugged sparrow]

?

[dapper heron]

hmmmmmm rn am using beidu for overload , i used to be beidu main till like ar 45-50

[thorn bay]

She just released chill

[crude dirge]

didnt citlali rerun in like 3 patches after release

[thorn bay]

5

[rugged sparrow]

no??

[thorn bay]

Hmm I thought 5.4

[crude dirge]

i thought 5.5

[thorn bay]

That’s way too late for an archon

[crude dirge]

idk i dont like natlan characters anyway

[rugged sparrow]

Citlali
archon

[thorn bay]

She released beside archon

[crude dirge]

natlan felt like an empty region for me

[rugged sparrow]

who asked 🥀

[crude dirge]

there always was a character i want/need rerun of

[dapper heron]

wtf, best region so far imo

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266458105869242401/1438532571578499223/AhaTik_ieatglass___1763023301801.mp4?ex=6917e21b&is=6916909b&hm=293503243dde92917435229ff55b4a5e2fe2e40a66d5b6c02a9c019eb149a255&

[dapper heron]

hmm maybe i liked the archond quest more and not thre region

[thorn bay]

Considering exploration I would say notcry is better

[dapper heron]

hmm i agree with that

[crude dirge]

what happened in natlan archon quest apart from war🤔

[thorn bay]

Capitano

[crude dirge]

didnt he die to war

[thorn bay]

Sac??

[crude dirge]

or why is he sitting like that

[thorn bay]

War ended

And then he sac himself to death

I didn’t really read much

[dapper heron]

capitano, kachina . when kachina won the pilgrimage thing i was soo damn happy that i got teared up lol

[neon wave]

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-melon-cat-licking-watermelon-watermelon-licking-gif-26693473

[dapper heron]

am pretty sure his and the lord of nights become one or something like that

she any good?

[thorn bay]

Not much than anemo and shield

[neon wave]

good shielder, can use VV/TTDS

[thorn bay]

Dang my English feels very wrong

[crude dirge]

can be dps with c1 and sac

[dapper heron]

aaah

[thorn bay]

Is this the maomao effect

You just get a random bad grammar

[dapper heron]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-maomao-猫猫-xiao-mao-gif-837602285254584198

[dapper heron]

um a questions- does the tribal chronicles take place before or after the final war thing in natlan?

[lyric cargo]

she's good for Herra in the current stygian, if you have constellations on her

she's among the 4-stars I still want cons for. most of the ones I wanted are c6 now

[dapper heron]

zero cons

[thorn bay]

Thoma has fast na
Can he do it?

Like zhongli

[crude dirge]

maybe xiangling

[thorn bay]

Also what does crescent spine do

[lyric cargo]

probably? I don't know his normals, but crescent pike is good

[thorn bay]

Hmmm she too

[crude dirge]

additional phys hit

[thorn bay]

Hmmm

[crude dirge]

or wait is it the craftable one

[lyric cargo]

crescent pike adds a small physical hit to each of your normal attacks

[thorn bay]

Crescent is craftable

[lyric cargo]

since Herra's gauge fills up with the number of hits it takes, the small physical hits from pike count

[crude dirge]

After picking up an Elemental Orb/Particle, Normal and Charged Attacks deal an additional 20% ATK as DMG for 5s.

[lyric cargo]

it being a separate hit is all that's important here
as well as needing to catch a particle

[dapper heron]

wait kuki can heal?

[thorn bay]

Yes

[thorn bay]

Skill will take a some what huge bit of her health and then heals the active char

[dapper heron]

wow

[lyric cargo]

it's basically her whole kit

well, there's also triggering hyperbloom with her skill ticks

[modern reef]

hello, it has been a while since i have played Genshin, so i just wanted to ask how much space the game takes up on pc?

[dapper heron]

👆 this is the current size in my pc.

[valid anchor]

full size with all voice languages + Miliastra composer on PC, sums around 160 GB.

Console (PS5 and Xbox) version is 140 GB
Mobile is around 55-60 GB with all voice language packs installed.

[crude dirge]

30% of current

[viral mulch]

damn im a few off

[dawn folio]

Should I use hakunshin ring or sacrifical fragments?
for ifa
I want him to be a swirl dps so im assuming i could use sacrifical fragments but I was planing on using him with iansan so could hakunshin ring work?
since I want my mizuki to stay with sac fragments?

Please help

[rugged sparrow]

what team are you even running...

[bright cape]

@rugged sparrow I changed to hp hydro hp on neuvi and have reached 2%.

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[bright cape]

surprising. lower cdmg ranked higher

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

is it the same lb

[bright cape]

wait it might be different ER.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304540031980933201/1389286008561864906/fufufatwae.gif

that was disgusting. i saw that

[rugged sparrow]

what

[dawn folio]

https://tenor.com/view/hoshimi-miyabi-hi-hello-punch-discontent-gif-11031063330917356310

[bright cape]

5 crit substat rolls

[opal surge]

[dawn folio]

No you didnt

[bright cape]

on crit circlet

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966217168276586517/1438634147215311060/01FC449C-B2E8-4A5F-83E3-8C7649AD895E.gif

anyways. it still looks nice.

now if only i can push navia to left

[dapper heron]

which goblet is better?

[crude dirge]

second one

25 cv versus 40 cv

[dapper heron]

but the 1st one has more cd?

since ma using obsidian codex dont i get +40% cr?

still 2nd is better?

[opal surge]

Yeah

0,995* 1,868 ~= 1,85 Vs ,855*2 ~= 1,71

[dapper heron]

is r1 enough for this weopon?

[opal surge]

It's much worse than r5

[dapper heron]

well r1 is all i can make now lol, those bow billets are hard to get for me.

[opal surge]

Well then you have no choice idk

[lyric cargo]

C:\Program Files\Genshin Impact is ~119GB for me
C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\HoYoverse is just ~19MB
C:\Users\...\AppData\LocalLow\miHoYo is ~80MB

[dapper heron]

this or r1 prototype?

[opal surge]

My response will make no difference to you either way

Chainbreaker

[dapper heron]

well if r5 is worth it i will put effort into it

[lyric cargo]

count the substats
first is like 4 low rolls of crit dmg, no other useful subs? (substat breakdown not shown)
second is 6 subs of crit

[dapper heron]

only usefull is cd

off piece for chasca

[opal surge]

If you multiply your total post buff crit rate and crit damage you can always tell which build is better

It's just the higher number

Assuming it's only a crit difference

[dapper heron]

ooh, ok

i was calculating with the +40cr of obsidian codex

[opal surge]

You should

That's what I mean post buff

[opal surge]

This just just (crit rate+40%)*crit damage

[dapper heron]

ooh so according to that calculation 1st artifact is better?

[opal surge]

No I just did it first

[dapper heron]

but i kinda get more dmg with this

[opal surge]

You see the numbers

[dapper heron]

if only it had rolled into cd 😂

[opal surge]

It's better this way

Than cd

[bright cape]

do u guys give old artifacts to newer units?

i meant artifacts of old characters who are no longer meta

[opal surge]

Basically never

I give someone a set and don't touch it beyond upgrading

I sometimes steal a single piece as offpiece for when I do dire onslaught stuff but it gets returned after

[dapper heron]

how can i improve? other than weopon lvl and talent lvl, which stats to upgrade more?

[bright cape]

i am kinda the same. it's too much hassle.

[opal surge]

You should not farm more artifacts before ascending and leveling her talents that's for sure

[bright cape]

if u like the character, get guaranteed upgrades first

[opal surge]

That aside Ur circlet is turbo garbo

[bright cape]

the difference will be night and day

and way more than artifact quality

[dapper heron]

ya i dont have any betetr pieces

[opal surge]

You can and should level 4 liner cdmg circlets with only atk% on them

[dapper heron]

oh, noted

[opal surge]

You should stop only keeping cdmg with crit rate on your circlet

[dapper heron]

razor language pls

[opal surge]

Circlet with no crit rate but with atk% = good

If many atk% = happy

[dapper heron]

aaaah ok ok

circlet is the last artifact right?

[opal surge]

Yeah

[dapper heron]

lemme if i have those

well i do have but it would be off piece, also its being used by other chars

ill farm after i lvl up her talents and lvl,

and weopon

artifacts ill keep as it is for now

[quaint fern]

I hate fixing builds after theatre and stygian

So if I can avoid messing with builds i will

[opal surge]

I literally just don't build characters for theater

Every level 70 character I leveled to enter theater just doesn't wear artifacts and is 1/1/1 with base weapon

They're crazy if they think they can get me to gear 28 characters

[lyric cargo]

100% this

they should add a validate button tbh
click it to say "yes, this is a build I actually intend to use"

then if any piece gets stolen, a weapon gets swapped, etc, the build gets invalidated
and when you enter stygian / abyss / theater with an invalidated char there could be a warning

[rugged sparrow]

wdym u dont have subpar artis laying around

[quaint fern]

I fortunately carries don't grow on trees for me

Or I just slap on some +20 I have sitting in inventory

[opal surge]

Other gachas I played in the past just had save states, kinda like you could pay like 200k mora to have everything saved, then you can mess with them and then restore it to that state later

[near prism]

what a thoroughly silly question, of course i dont

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

your subpar standard is 250cv

40 useful rolls

[lyric cargo]

same, I r5'd a bunch of ttds for my catalyst chars at least

imo theater should just let you change equipment during the run, but it seems they like giving us incentive to not share stuff

[opal surge]

I do think they could allow you to gear midrun and just lock stealing from other characters in the run

But oh well

Maybe we will get artifact loadouts one day

[near prism]

fwiw i do have a lot of characters geared so its more like, anything about 215 with other solid subs and im satisfied

[lyric cargo]

basically what stygian does
it's already implemented

[near prism]

for my less important chars

[rugged sparrow]

*250

[opal surge]

I wish they'd improve more on theater qol considering it's technically for many players now the most important endgame

As it gives more primos than the others

[near prism]

i very much like that all 3 endgame modes are starting to promote diverse rosters

my 5 years of horizontal investment are paying off

[lyric cargo]

also 2 crafting elixirs
even though the second is only accessible to people with 28 chars

[opal surge]

It's kinda cool but I think abyss is kind of lacking identity now

[lyric cargo]

kinda, yeah

[opal surge]

It's like an awkward mix of onslaught with some aoe mixed in

Make it pure fiction

[lyric cargo]

you build your account for stygian and theater
abyss comes automatically with that

[rugged sparrow]

I think abyss being middle ground is fine-ish

[near prism]

i disagree, i think abyss has the most identity, you're forced to have a diverse roster while also having strong characters

[rugged sparrow]

that's

[lyric cargo]

arcanum 1 seems to be where I need AoE the most
until they rerun an AoE char next time and put 250 waves in abyss

[rugged sparrow]

kinda what being a mix of SO + IT mean

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I think any of my stygian teams can clear abyss?

[rugged sparrow]

dont need as diverse roster as IT
dont need chars as strong for SO

[opal surge]

I think an aoe wave kill mode would be cool

[rugged sparrow]

mob grinder event is right there

or whenever the occasional Venti re-run

cue 60 mobs

[opal surge]

I want characters having good aoe to actually be a selling point

Right now I don't really care about aoe

[lyric cargo]

wonderland coming up

[opal surge]

Cooler if they have it, okay if they dont

[near prism]

KAZE DA

[lyric cargo]

I did get good use of my Neuv in arcanum stage 1 both times, since it came to theater

but with putting that in theater every time, I kinda dread what happens when there's an element combination where I don't have an AoE char

do I need to start looking up what the best AoE char of every element is, now?

[quaint fern]

Or you could be me (I've been saying that I would diversify my roster since Fontaine LOL)

[opal surge]

This arcana 1 stage was something special tbf

[near prism]

yeah, but you do need a diverse roster for abyss, take this abyss for example, any non bloom/bloom adjacent team for the general person is bricked top half

[opal surge]

Your characters literally just died of cringe so neuvilette was op either way

[quaint fern]

Wait is new abyss lineup put already?

[near prism]

im talking about the current one

[lyric cargo]

yeah
kinda the case for Stygian as well? need to be able to cover all the gimmicks at least to some extent

[near prism]

yup, a diverse roster does a lot for an account

[quaint fern]

I never complain about being able to unbench nilou

[lyric cargo]

abyss probably easier to bruteforce

[near prism]

me personally i havent had to build a character specifically for IT yet

[quaint fern]

It's funny when I think about how nilou was a "mistake" for me

[quaint fern]

I had to build aino so I could borrow flins and actually have him do dmg

[near prism]

my aino isnt built

but i have ineffa so my flins was finege

[hazy lotus]

i barely have enough characters for theatre most cycles and they’re almost all 70 no artis

[quaint fern]

I'm always on the fence about pulling neuvi when he reruns

I think he fits my roster better than mualani and I actually have artifacts for him

[bright cape]

i think it's too late now

[quaint fern]

Yeah that's why

I figure they're going to give us a new hydro on fielder in nod krai

[opal surge]

Who

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opal surge]

Bina?

[bright cape]

nah. i don't see that happening

[quaint fern]

Have we seen 17 characters with visions?

[opal surge]

I don't see who else it could be unless it's random 5* coming in left

[quaint fern]

I mean, that was basically varessa

[opal surge]

We had Varesa voice lines early though

No?

[quaint fern]

Probably?

[bright cape]

i mean they did try their best with shark girl

[quaint fern]

Idr

Shark girl too clunky

Also you can't pay me to farm obsidian

[bright cape]

i am surprised. u didn't pull any natlan?

u were going for c6 ganyu at that time

[hazy lotus]

obsidian was so awful to me i legit gave up on building mavuika

[quaint fern]

I got Skirk, esco, and lali

[opal surge]

Ins mavuika angle

[quaint fern]

Lali with no pyro carry

[bright cape]

oh nice. how about geo girl?

[quaint fern]

Oh right

I always forget about xilo

[opal surge]

Cryo, maybe got the 3 cryo characters in the region

That's crazy

[bright cape]

my plan is to only get columbina and sandrone now

and rest will be escoffier, citlali and may be ineffa

[quaint fern]

Y'all need to hold me accountable if I don't pull for durin

[near prism]

what

[bright cape]

why durin though?

[opal surge]

Nah fuck durin we must save for Bina sandrone because of the Yuri twitter gif

[bright cape]

i mean they go very hard

awesome chemistry

[quaint fern]

TRUEE

[near prism]

i want both of them so bad but i have to get durin 😭

[quaint fern]

It's just kaveh x alhaitham all over again

[bright cape]

even has hardcore neuvi invester, he doesn't feel as strong lately

[quaint fern]

Sandrone is Kaveh

[near prism]

like, his story is the culmination of like 5 years of playing, i HAVE to get him

[near prism]

why would that mean its ''too late'' to pull him

[quaint fern]

SURELY he can use the dragon spine sword

That would be fashion impact

Like he has to

The lore would be incredible