📌gimshim-help

[crimson plover]

furina shld be leveled asap, ororon is also good. yaoyao is ok

barb/cyno are kinda low prio imo

[ripe surge]

is nefer with cr 42 cd 262 good or nah

the weap is neuvi's weap

[lyric cargo]

the ideal crit ratio for all chars is 1 : 2 until crit rate caps at 100%

this means crit rate half of crit dmg, taking buffs into account

[lyric cargo]

what is your Nefer team?

[lyric cargo]

your crit dmg is > 200%, so you want 100% crit rate after buffs

[ripe surge]

c1 lauma SMS, aino instructor, nahida deepwood

[lyric cargo]

by default, she gets 30% CR from the 4pc set and 10% lunar bloom CR from Lauma

so your crit rate would be 72%

[lyric cargo]

is Nahida c2?

that'd give another 10% lunar bloom CR

[ripe surge]

c0 only

[lyric cargo]

you're 28% CR short, then
got an enka card?

[thorn bay]

I don’t think you would be Critting even if you have 30% from the set
I have 60 and I be not critting ;(

I don’t have the set

[lyric cargo]

here's mine, my pieces are also very CD focused
good thing if at risk of overcapping, but I'm not really right now

[lyric cargo]

anything less than 100% CR is just unfortunate, with CD that much above 200%

[lyric cargo]

as you can see, I chose my off-piece to balance the crit rate as well as possible

[thorn bay]

I think if I had enough resin and materials I think I could hit over 400

She ascends with cd with her weapon giving over 100cd which is insane

[elder bluff]

400?

[lyric cargo]

I might reroll some of my pieces to try and get the max number of useful substats, and get more CR alongside that

definitely waiting until the end of the artifact farming stage of Stygian, though

after that I'll be levelling talents for a while

[elder bluff]

she will need to wear another sig for that

[thorn bay]

Can you borrow me some resources

I’m broke

[elder bluff]

I have nothing to lend

[thorn bay]

;(

[lyric cargo]

more than 100 even?
88.2 + 36 = 124.2 CD
8% CR
120 EM

[thorn bay]

24k per kick is insane considering how bad this is

[thorn bay]

Ye

[hazy lotus]

my circlet is awful but i think my other pieces are okay for now

[thorn bay]

I don’t even have artifacts

[hazy lotus]

the er isn’t the worst thing ever i feel like 130+ should be enough with nahida to burst every rotation maybe

[thorn bay]

At this point you don’t even need artifacts with this weapon

Ig only if you ascend with cr

How good is c2 nefer

[hazy lotus]

her cons are mostly just pure damage increase it’s like 50%ish? iirc

[lyric cargo]

adding Sig to my build, the crit ratio would be
52.7 : 343.1

with artifact set, Lauma passive and Nahida c2, it's
102.7 : 383.1

so I think 400% is reasonable but only if you include buffs

[thorn bay]

Hmmmm

[thorn bay]

Add the gt mh domain buff with gilded hall

[lyric cargo]

I'd rather not make assumptions that won't apply to the content I'm actually preparing to clear

[lyric cargo]

hmm, no Widsith calc'ed

I've seen multiple weapon rankings and it's placed wildly differently depending on assumptions

[lyric cargo]

wait, 20s rotation? does Nahida's burst lengthen it that much?

I thought 15s was Nefer's optimum, just enough to generate 6 verdant dew

her skill cooldown of 9s slowly taking away the extra stack she starts with, if you're doing dash cancels to get a rotation shorter than 18s

with 18s rotation eventually, after the extra stack is used up and you're tied to its cooldown

[gaunt iron]

hi

[hazy lotus]

it’s pretty similar for her to f2p options iirc so it’s up to u how much u want to invest in nefer and if u would be okay potentially losing to furina sig

[gaunt iron]

thank u ^_^ i'll just save my weapon banner pity for when columbina comes out / navia reruns then

[hazy lotus]

also mb i worded poorly by “it” i meant neuvs sig nefer sig is around like 25% i think

but if u have other priorities to save for it’s def skippable she seems plenty strong as is and id be surprised if columbina isn’t a decent improvement for her too

[nimble scroll]

is it alright to ask for team ideas in this chat?

[lyric cargo]

for Navia in particular, you can get Mavuika's signature which is basically the same for Navia and a better generalist weapon

[thorn bay]

Yes

[violet cipher]

In Skirk/escoffier/furina/c1 ShenHe - how much er does ShenHe need?

[rugged sparrow]

a lot

[violet cipher]

How much do I need so I can use Raiden wep instead of fav?

[mighty scarab]

I need like 14 unusual Hillichurls, anyone able to help?

[bleak moth]

i started the every aspect of a warrior and got 3 chests, it's in the sky but I want to collect it later. Can i climb it after I get down from here?

[solar pebble]

good day. can i steal some moonfall silver on ur world?

[nimble scroll]

any team ideas for my roster? bonus points of appreciation if they are fun/unique and or include yelan

( willing to build/level anyone )

[lyric cargo]

^

this isn't accounting for shenhe c1, but you can probably put these inputs into the ER calc and change it to 2 skill presses a rotation

[lyric cargo]

to the right of you is a symbol for a repeatable challenge, so it should be reachable
can't use the interactive map right now, so you're waiting until you can?

you can also put an ingame marker to remind you you collected them and mark it off later

[violet cipher]

Ty

[lyric cargo]

Arle would be the one where Yelan can be optimal

meta teams with these chars would be:

Mavuika
Bennett
Sucrose
Citlali

(option to upgrade Sucrose to Iansan or Xilonen if you get those)

Neuvilette
Furina
Ororon / pyro traveler
Jean / Xianyun / Fischl

(option to upgrade 3rd slot to Xilonen and 4th slot to Kazuha)
(also, you can run various off-fielders like Ineffa / Lauma / Escoffier)

Arlecchino
Bennett
Yelan / Citlali
Sucrose? Zhongli?

(option to use Xilonen in last slot, or Chevreuse Fischl in the last two, or Yelan Ineffa)

[nimble scroll]

thanks!

for arle team would it be possible to make the 4th slot yunjin? would it significantly drop dmg or?

[rugged sparrow]

Arle can't consume most Yun Jin stacks so she's not that great of a buffer

it's also c1 Yun Jin so ehhhh

[nimble scroll]

if i had yunjin at higher cons would it work a bit better?

[rugged sparrow]

better sure but compared to other options she's still not that great for Arle

[nimble scroll]

ah alrighty ty ty for answering my questions!

[violet cipher]

Do fate points carry over to the next weapon banner (I lose 50/50 or don’t get the weapon I want and then the banner ends does it still say 1/1)?

[crude dirge]

not at all

only event banner 50/50s guarantee carry over

[violet cipher]

Ok, ty

[lyric cargo]

by event you mean character banner? 🤔

[crude dirge]

yes

nothing else carries 50/50 except weapon/character on standard i think

is it even 50/50 there

[radiant fable]

Could Barbara slot in the healer spot? Thanks for your response btw just had a really busy day yesterday.

[lyric cargo]

oh yeah, she's good with Nilou
you'd want to lvl90 her and give her a full EM set on 4-piece flower of paradise lost, and sacrificial fragments
she'd replace Ayato as the trigger for bloom

in general, with Nilou teams you want to use 2 hydro and 2 dendro

bloom is like vape or melt, in that there is a forward and a reverse side to the reaction

applying hydro to an enemy with a dendro aura consumes 0.5 dendro to make a bloom core
applying dendro to an enemy with a hydro aura consumes 2 hydro to make a bloom core

contrary to how it is with vape / melt though, there's no upside to triggering the forward side of the reaction - you just consume more aura

I guess Ayato Nilou bloom has become an extremely premium team
you'd play Ayato Nilou Lauma Nahida
with c1 Lauma being your healing

honestly at that point I'd rather build Nefer Lauma Nilou Nahida

both have c1 Lauma as the only source of healing

[radiant fable]

Oh wow I actually had no idea about that, thanks

Well I mean seeing as Laum’s banner is long gone now, do you think I should hold off on that Nilou team for now and run ayato with other units?

[radiant fable]

What would you think of an ayato hyperbloom with nahida kuki and then sucrose for example?

[lyric cargo]

it's an option

probably not Sucrose, though

dendro aura will be dominant, which you can't swirl

normally for hyperbloom you on-field a dendro unit and bring two off-field hydro units

[radiant fable]

I’ll be honest I literally spawned into the wonderland and didn’t do anything played one game of football then dipped lmao

[radiant fable]

Ohh right so probably not a good idea then

So, should I run Hu, Xq, Aino and Fischl for my other team btw?

Mb im askin a lot as I said I ain’t played since sumeru so I am very much cooked 😭

[lyric cargo]

should be decent

[radiant fable]

Haven’t used Aino before so hey I’ll give it a shot

[lyric cargo]

and no worries, it's what the channel is for

[radiant fable]

Tysm man seriously cus I rlly am just fully confused ive tired putting so many different combinations of characters together its never worked

Always feels like im underutilizing my units

[lyric cargo]

she's basically just an off-field hydro low frequency applicator with circle impact and a short burst cooldown

[crude dirge]

and a four star keqing

[radiant fable]

Hi brr brr patapim sheeran

Alr well I’ll build her and xingqiu and run those with Hu Tao

What do yall reckon i should do for my second team?

Feel like ayato and ayaka are good units but I rlly jsut don’t have good supports for them it looks like

Put too much into my c6 xiangling 😭

[lyric cargo]

hmm?

[thorn bay]

Skill

[lyric cargo]

oh

that's not a relevant part of the kit

[thorn bay]

Particle

[lyric cargo]

I mean, yeah but that has nothing to do with the drawing yourself to the enemy part

[thorn bay]

Also can you teach me nefer rotation

[thorn bay]

Actually it has been pretty useful when farming artifacts with nefer

The light keeper dash atk

[lyric cargo]

I'd try this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AjTrQ_sN2tE

[thorn bay]

I haven’t even specified the team

[lyric cargo]

when I was doing it, I had Lauma on fav and was feeding Aino's particles to Lauma
trying to use all bursts first rotation
maybe that delayed things too much and I should've skipped it like they did

[thorn bay]

Nefer aino kuki yao2

[lyric cargo]

ah, right. no Lauma yet

is yao2 c2 yaoyao?

[thorn bay]

It was just shorter version of yao yao (c4)

[lyric cargo]

oh

[thorn bay]

120 em buff :)

I was thinking of using dmc but I got c4 yao yao so

[lyric cargo]

oh, for yaoyao
I was thinking "no way she gives Nefer 120 EM" ^^

[thorn bay]

Wait what

Was I dumb reading her con

[lyric cargo]

Yaoyao's Elemental Mastery will be increased based on 0.3% of her Max HP for 8s. The maximum Elemental Mastery she can gain this way is 120.

[thorn bay]

Dang I was dumb

Either way skill is better than bursting plus some extra heals is not bad

[lyric cargo]

I'd do:

Nefer E
Yaoyao E
Kuki E(Q)
Aino EQ

this is with Aino on Instructor, Kuki on Silken Moon, Yaoyao on Deepwood
maybe someone else on deepwood is better, you want someone who reliably triggers and refreshes it on all enemies

[thorn bay]

Hmmm ok

[lyric cargo]

it's possible Aino is the best holder,
in which case Kuki would hold instructor and be used after Aino to get high uptime

[feral reef]

Aino thaat she is

[lyric cargo]

I kinda like this, now that I think about it:
Yaoyao (Silken Moon)
Aino (Deepwood)
Kuki (Instructor)

rotating in that order

[lyric cargo]

did you have Nahida, btw? I forgot

probably not

[thorn bay]

No, when she was rerunning in 5.1 I uninstalled Genshin at the time

Ik she reran very recently too but I didn’t really found I use case other than my Keqing

[quasi sage]

hi, can someone on asia server please help me with the natlan local legends

[thorn bay]

I may but may not cuz of ping and depending on your main

[lyric cargo]

at this point, I'd just focus on Lauma. I think Nahida's value over other options is much lower now than it used to be

[thorn bay]

I mean she’s still good on agg/spread

[quasi sage]

I have some well built characters so I can change depending on who you need ^^ lmk when you're free pls

[thorn bay]

Uid??

I only need Bennett and flex pyro or hydro

[quasi sage]

I have furina and bennett!

[thorn bay]

Nice

[quasi sage]

857089101

[lyric cargo]

hmm, those aren't very viable archetypes at the moment

the latest aggravate carry is Clorinde (fontaine meta), the latest spread carry is Alhaitham / Tighnari (suemeru meta)?

if you have her, it's reasonable to play her in those occasionally imo
but pulling her for that? idk

I think her value as the 4th slot in Nefer teams is actually higher
but idk how safe her place there is, the 4th slot is basically "any on-nodkrai EM or crit buffer"

[thorn bay]

I still think your acc was better than mine

[quasi sage]

perhaps but def not in natlan

[crude dirge]

five star char chance is 0.6% for 1-73 and then at 74 its +6% right

[bright cape]

was yaoyao a lantern rite character?

[rugged sparrow]

in what sense

[quasi sage]

last year yeah

oh wait no, i mean 2 years ago

[thorn bay]

Ye

Is weapon banner pity lower??

[crude dirge]

ye

[thorn bay]

How much

[crude dirge]

i remember the max being 80

and 66 is the chance increase i think

[thorn bay]

So 10 lower??

[thorn bay]

Hmmmmmm

[crude dirge]

and im already at 74

so its like 15% for me to get tomorrow if i get just two pulls

[buoyant cove]

Imagine you get a surprise Qiqi

[crude dirge]

im at guarantee

i got mona at 80 during flins or lauma

[buoyant cove]

Qiqi

[crude dirge]

no.

https://tenor.com/view/sunny-omori-scared-terrified-stressed-out-gif-15591168520914813591

[lyric cargo]

Char banner:
Wish 1 - 73 → 0.6% chance
then +6% every wish after
74: 6.6% (soft pity)
75: 12.6%
76: 18.6%
77: 24.6%
78: 30.6%
79: 36.6%
80: 42.6%
81: 48.6%
82: 54.6%
83: 60.6%
84: 66.6%
85: 72.6%
86: 78.6%
87: 84.6%
88: 90.6%
89: 96.6%
90: 100% (hard pity)

Weapon banner:
Wish 1 - 62 → 0.7% chance
then +7% every wish after
63: 7.7% (soft pity)
64: 14.7%
65: 21.7%
66: 28.7%
67: 35.7%
68: 42.7%
69: 49.7%
70: 56.7%
71: 63.7%
72: 70.7%
73: 77.7%
74: 84.7%
75: 91.7%
76: 98.7%
77: 100% (hard pity)

[lyric cargo]

it's 77 mathematically

I'm not sure why the ingame hint says 80

[crude dirge]

wasnt it 80 officially

yeah

[crude dirge]

if i get to 80s again

https://tenor.com/view/omori-emotions-omori-miserable-omori-miserable-gif-20095829

[lyric cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwW12uQLCiw

[crude dirge]

will u be able to help me with coop achievements tomorrow

theres literally no one active on eu

i just need nod krai coop achievements

[lyric cargo]

I'm not sure

[crude dirge]

are there any quest locked bosses

[lyric cargo]

for the ones in a domain,
if someone else is in your world and you enter without them
iirc you get 4 chars

but idk if it counts for the achievement

[devout creek]

hello
is there anyone with C6R5 nefer in asia server?
need help with theatre for supporting char
pls help

[serene sandal]

anyone got that the catch infographic? wanna try build ciangling

[devout creek]

HELP PLS

[lyric cargo]

there will be very few people who have that level of insistent

you're short on on-fielders?

[devout creek]

not like that

i need a supporting char for the buff

[lyric cargo]

if you're doing the lunar mode (28+ chars), something to consider would be whether you have a good teamwide healer who doesn't need much field time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382365721669013695/1434512245605531658/image.png?ex=69089923&is=690747a3&hm=46c3d264a3f48f14ad7169fa0fa1df8c571c2a7ce08ae750a75687dc32d371fa&

this stage constantly damages the whole team

my option here ended up being Neuv + healing mode Furina 😔

switching to her a lot to keep her alive, and letting the rest of the team die

I got the stella that way in the end

[devout creek]

i have kokomi

[lyric cargo]

should be fine, then. I was going to say borrowing someone like c2 Baizhu could've been an option

[wicked gorge]

where can i find help for help clearing dire
i am so close but i am struggelign with 2 bosses
any help appreciated if there is a discord channel or server for this kind of help

[strange scarab]

What kind of help do you want with it

[bright cape]

another tech.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9y9943OepI4

[radiant fable]

Took a good look and wanted to ask, for me and the units I have, whag do u think about Hu Tao xingqiu xiangling Bennet and Ayato nahida kuki and sucrose? Or do I try to do smth with Nilou for Nilou Nahida collei Barbara

[lyric cargo]

Hutao Xiangling will be too much pyro application for Xingqiu to keep up with

Bennett can be used on Hutao teams, but afaik she doesn't gain as much from him as other chars

so especially in the context of stygian, you might want to use him on another team

it's a perk of Hutao's that she doesn't need him

though she does want Furina instead

I guess the Ineffa team doesn't 🤔

grabbed your char pool post again for easier access

[radiant fable]

I’m trying my best to get her but it’s no guarantee so

Zhongli after her too

[radiant fable]

Yeah np take your time

Appreciate u helping me out rlly

[lyric cargo]

I think Zhongli is actually quite skippable
he gives nice shields, but in terms of damage his teams are usually lacking

[radiant fable]

Fair enough then

What 2 teams do you think I should go for then? Is the ayato one I suggested an upgrade?

[lyric cargo]

maybe Ayato Nahida Kuki Fischl
you'd have to see what the aura on the enemies ends up being
if there's good quicken uptime, Fischl's damage will be okay

Ayato Bennett Xiangling Fischl seems very reasonable as well, though

[radiant fable]

I’ve already got these characters built so I’ll just build up Fischl

As for the nahida kuki team I’ll also level them up. And I’ll see, no harm in it. I’ll need those units for the future I’d reckon

For the other team with Hu Tao?

[lyric cargo]

maybe Hutao Xingqiu Bennett Fischl
it seems reasonable, though Fischl can slot on either side

[radiant fable]

Wait wdym slot on either side. Also yeah this seems like a good team, it’ll probs be difficult running both simultaneously in abyss tho

[lyric cargo]

Fischl could be on Bennett teams, or on Nahida teams, or on the Hutao team for lack of another unit there

[radiant fable]

Oh yeah makes sense. So your recommendation for abyss im guessing would be
Ayato Nahida Kuki Fishcl (or xiangling)
Hu Tao Xingqiu Bennet Fischl

Is this the best path for me going forward?

[lyric cargo]

Xiangling wouldn't fit in the bloom team
you'll get burning vape instead

[lyric cargo]

if it's AoE content, Nilou bloom would be better than hyperbloom most likely

[lyric cargo]

going forward I'd look at Hutao Xingqiu Aino Ineffa
or any newer chars you'd like to build a third team around

[radiant fable]

How about sucrose then

[radiant fable]

Yeah that’s fair I just want two strong teams I can use in the meantime so

[lyric cargo]

I don't believe she'll swirl
a large part of any anemo support is VV res shred

[lyric cargo]

I don't believe you'd regret building any of those units, though

as long as you're farming domains where both sets are useful to you

https://youtu.be/iN8_2Ul2_tw
someone just linked this to me, maybe it's worth a watch for you as well

[radiant fable]

So should I run these two for now?
Hu Tao Xingqiu Bennet Fischl (as I don’t have ineffa rn)
Ayato nahida kuki Mona

[radiant fable]

Tysm yes this will be a huge help

[crude dirge]

is running bennett on hutao better than on ayato or whatever other team is

[radiant fable]

Man im not sure honestly 😭

I reallt don’t know

[crude dirge]

also why fischl on hutao

[lyric cargo]

maybe Aino over Mona, not sure. Her hydro app should have longer uptime 🤔

[crude dirge]

wouldnt that just make u waste stamina trying to chase after overload

[lyric cargo]

maybe against very small enemies

[radiant fable]

I’ve got c1 Mona so that’s the reason I suggested her honestly

[radiant fable]

Maybe keqing could be better as an electro then? Easier to get around with her skill

[crude dirge]

just make keqing team at this point

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-hunchback-turn-cukurukuk-gif-15693050314819858264

[lyric cargo]

mmh, Keqing is kinda pre-sumeru meta

[radiant fable]

Bro fr im not against the idea I genuinely don’t know what to do

[lyric cargo]

she'll be noticably weak

[radiant fable]

If it’s a good team I’ll do it

[lyric cargo]

well, sumeru meta
but weaker than other things you could do at the time

[crude dirge]

what are u planning to do
send the characters

[radiant fable]

Planning on going as far as possible in abyss, need the two strongest teams I can use out of these units. I have around 89 of the condensed resins currently so I don’t mind going and farming artifacts, have a lot of level up materials

So farming shouldn’t be an issue I hope

[crude dirge]

u mean fragile resin?
condensed is the one u craft

[lyric cargo]

for farming artifacts, I'd recommend doing so with fragile resin only during the first 10 days of stygian onslaught

that's currently ongoing, so you have that option

would have to decide which sets to farm?

[crude dirge]

i think dumping into ayaka or hutao would be best for now

[lyric cargo]

not sure about Ayaka without Escoffier

[crude dirge]

tighnari is also good dps

[shadow gazelle]

not ayaka

HuTaoCry

[lyric cargo]

this is where you'd want to spend it, disturbance outbreak

[crude dirge]

really doubt ayatoe is better than ayaka

[shadow gazelle]

these should be the best 2 teams except aino instead of mona

[shadow gazelle]

yh ofc not its not ayato team its hyper bloom

[crude dirge]

ayato hyperbloom?

[shadow gazelle]

HuTao_GotThis

[crude dirge]

but why fischl on hutao

[lyric cargo]

you'd use Xingqiu, but he's on the Hutao team

[crude dirge]

candace

[lyric cargo]

just someone who can fill the slot, I think
she snapshots Bennett's buff

[shadow gazelle]

to make use of bennet altho a bit scuffed but fischl can snapshot the buff and bennet isnt useless to hu tao

[crude dirge]

why not sucrose

[lyric cargo]

can't swirl pyro without Bennett on the team
but that's an option, yeah

[crude dirge]

sucrose instead of fischl

[lyric cargo]

Hutao Xingqiu Bennett Sucrose is (afaik) ok

[crude dirge]

copium

[shadow gazelle]

well sucrose cant rly swirl pyro but Hu, xingqiu, mona, sucrose would be decent

[lyric cargo]

well, we're talking about chars that came ot in 2.X
best case is being carried by newer units like Ineffa I think?

[shadow gazelle]

bennet without c6 would lower the dmg unless im wrong about that

[lyric cargo]

ah, I'm not sure what the constellation assumptions were

[shadow gazelle]

c0 bennet afaik

[crude dirge]

his one is c0?😭

c6 diona and c0 bennett

[shadow gazelle]

oh diona is also c6 i only noticed xiangling XD

[hot spoke]

Anyone knows why is there a red notif for IV 😭

Though the reason could be that it's default to have red notif for IV domain levels when the first clear rewards have not been claimed

[lyric cargo]

my best guess would be it appears when it unlocks, and you never clicked on it since then
but the one after it doesn't have one
and it seems unlikely

[radiant fable]

Sorry yeah I meant that

[radiant fable]

Yep and c1 Mona 😭 only got xingqiu two days ago as well so lower constellations

[radiant fable]

Ok wait im confused now 😭

[shadow gazelle]

(just ignore billy)

HuTao_PardonMe

[radiant fable]

Hutao Xingqiu Bennett Sucrose and Ayato Nahida Kuki Aino then?

[true vale]

is this good for mualani?

[lyric cargo]

what's nice about Mualani is she has a lot of useful substats

crit rate, crit dmg are always good
EM subs are good since she triggers vaporize
hp% subs are good since besides hydro resonance there are basically no external buffs for it.
so it's not a very saturated stat, compared to atk% on a char who scales with that

you don't have any EM subs. your useful substat count is somewhat low as a result

looking at your crit ratio, I believe the only crit buff you have is 4pc codex
so your crit ratio is 82.1 : 247
more crit rate (until it caps at 100%) would be very good

the ideal ratio of crit rate to crit dmg is 1:2
since your crit dmg is over 200%, you'd want the full 100% crit rate if possible

for talent levels, your priority would be:

1. Skill
2. Burst

so I'd crown the skill as well

[true vale]

thank u sm this is so helpful

[lyric cargo]

it seems the normal attack talent you've leveled isn't useful, her skill probably overrides it

[true vale]

would her hydro goblet be useless or should i keep it?

[lyric cargo]

6 useful subs is okay, I'd keep it until you have better at least

[shadow gazelle]

Hutao Xingqiu Bennett fischl (fischl summoning oz with bennet buff to snapshot it) and Ayato Nahida Kuki Aino

[granite vector]

guys should i pull for nefer im super new on this account im ar 15

[shadow gazelle]

You probably want close to 100%cr 60% without codex buff not much less than that unless you want to reset a lot because she missed a crit

Also yh i dont think her normal atk talent does anything for her dmg

Skill > burst > normals left at 1 lvl afaik

[radiant fable]

Got it tysm! I genuinely appreciate all of you guys help it has been invaluable

Thanks for taking the time ik I asked a lot of questions

[lyric cargo]

hmm, her value is much lower if you don't have Lauma

[granite vector]

i pulled for furina and i get keqing 🙁

cant be mad though because it was like 7 pity

[lyric cargo]

ah. unfortunate to start with a loss
oh, losing at 7 pity is basically a win

[granite vector]

literally

[lyric cargo]

if you end up going for Nefer, just make sure you plan to get Lauma on a rerun

[granite vector]

im probs not cause this account is super new and idk how to get to natlan

[lyric cargo]

if you know where Natlan is, you can zoom in to it. there should be several teleport points already unlocked

they've been giving us tps like that with every new region, to let players get there fast if they want to see the new things

[granite vector]

ye i see them

[valid anchor]

you need to clear Song of dragon and freedom and be AR 18+ for most things outside Mondo. If you're underleveled, you'll get the highly dangerous warning placed on top once you teleport to certain areas.

[bright cape]

can ttds buff work in coop?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[bright cape]

oh damn

[lyric cargo]

if you have two chars, I'd have assumed you can have one buff the other with it

[lyric cargo]

seems it's completely unrelated to the construct:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p_VAquHxA0Y

[bright cape]

omg

can i finally clear dire on 1 stage?

how replicable is it?

[lyric cargo]

I have not tried it
laptop's already off for the night ^^

[bright cape]

it's fine.

[lyric cargo]

will try tomorrow
maybe I can clear dire with that?
boss 1 with Mav melt
boss 2 with Nefer, once talents are leveled
boss 3 with a Jean team

[bright cape]

does kuki's E heal teammates?

[rugged sparrow]

only on-fielders

or you mean in co-op

in co-op as long as they're on-field yes

[dry ridge]

What team can I use with Nefer if I don't have Lauma? Currently using Nefer, Aino, Furina & Nahida, got Furina c6 this banner so can provide heals. Good?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it's good by the virtue of Furina c6 but she doesn't necessarily help Nefer in any other way

dmg% buff doesn't work for majority of Nefer's dmg since it's Lunar Bloom tagged (and it doesn't work with dmg% bonus other than lunar dmg%)

[dry ridge]

It's mostly just for the hydro application so I don't have to rely on Aino burst being up all the time

[rugged sparrow]

err

if you don't have Aino's burst at all time then you're building her wrong

but w/e, point still stands. Furina in your team is good by the virtue of her being c6

she's literally plug and play in majority of teams at c6

@opal surge https://youtu.be/sKaTe4uWfSI

[balmy cove]

How is this Mualani build? 64:230, 169em, 36,500hp, and 120 ER

[rugged sparrow]

post enka card instead

[bright cape]

i guess it was the underlevelled kuki

[rugged sparrow]

I mean Kuki generally heals around 3k-4k which isn't too amazing

[opal surge]

what the

[rugged sparrow]

esp. if your co-op teammates are throwing themselves to every known danger possible

[opal surge]

wait ok maybe I can clear dire

[rugged sparrow]

gimme Escoff pls

[bright cape]

i had to stay inside her ring.

[rugged sparrow]

yes

just like how you need to stay inside the radius of other healing skills

ig it's not intuitive cuz the ring always follows you in single player

[bright cape]

completely not. i was fighting the 2nd stygian boss. it was nightmare

[rugged sparrow]

Sigurd?

[bright cape]

ultimately i just played very conservatively

[bright cape]

yep. in coop

[rugged sparrow]

does he even do damage

[bright cape]

yep. i think we tried 12 times

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

surprising thing was arle

lvl 4 arle doesn't get max bond of life.

we had to sweat a bit there

my arle doesn't have sig and her own artifacts. it was rough

[lyric cargo]

I tried today anyway
doesn't seem realistic to do it multiple times a fight, I wasn't able to do it once

[quaint fern]

HUH

Wait I might actually have to give that a shot with hyperbloom LOL

[lyric cargo]

let me know if you're able to get it

I feel like it might be frame perfect

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

I feel like I'm so close to being able to clear frost operative with bloomge

[lyric cargo]

maybe resetting until you get it once at the start is realistic, if your timing is better than mine

[quaint fern]

I might honestly need silken on my team

So I might try to get a set for lauma

[lyric cargo]

btw, what the heck is this 😆
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38ckEU0V8d0

Tighnari with lvl8 talents clears hera
Holding Chasca sig while Chasca is on chain breaker
Lauma-less Nefer
fav sword Bennett
this is simultaneously cursed, and impressive for clearing with it

[quaint fern]

C6 tho

[lyric cargo]

yeah
I have c6 Tigh as of this constellation selector
still not confident I could do that

[quaint fern]

I really don't want to just pull arle to clear frost operative

I just need to figure out one more boss then in golden 😭

[lyric cargo]

it's kinda comical this ended up being my clearing team

deny 4mh? check
deny furina burst? check
70% base cryo res? no problem 🤔

the Mav clear is not very optimized,
I kinda lost interest in doing it well when it turned out I needed Citlali on team 3

[quaint fern]

Ngl nefer wouldn't even help me too much

I've tried using Skirk vs frost operative and it's hard

I mean if it would let me clear frost op?

[lyric cargo]

given the 70% cryo res
what's your best noncryo on-fielder?

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[quaint fern]

Well I guess I haven't tried wrio hyperbloom

But I doubt that would work given its cryo resistance + MH not really working

[lyric cargo]

someone allegedly cleared operative with Skirk Escoffier Yelan Escoffier in 120s exactly

another with Lauma Nahida Xingqiu Kuki in 101s. I'm not sure why double dendro hyperbloom would be good.
I guess you'd get hit too much trying to on-field and attack with Lauma / Nahida for dendro app

another, Nahida Furina Xingqiu Kuki in 109s

so idk, maybe there's merit to trying with hyperbloom if you have Lauma
or maybe you'd rather save her and try the Skirk clear

[quaint fern]

I don't think I can afford to strip Furina

Actually maybe?

I should go test it

I took out shenhe but she's the weakest link anyways

[lyric cargo]

if she's on the team, did you try to optimize for hp% crit crit (mostly ignoring ER?)

that's what I did for my clear, with hydro% goblet

[quaint fern]

For which team?

I won't have much time to try stuff today

[lyric cargo]

this was where I ran it

I was assuming Skirk Furina Escoffier Shenhe

but idk what's optimal for you to use

it's just, if Furina isn't getting Fanfare then hydro dmg% gains value
but at the same time, she has that passive wanting her to build 40k hp
maybe I was wrong to use hydro% goblet on her

[bright cape]

@quaint fern https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1omw42m/jean_yeets_dire_fatui_operative_4_times_in_77/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

do u have jean?

i have no idea how this works. but looks neat

[elder bluff]

it is all about timing

[nova swift]

Not as neat as you

[viral mulch]

jin

[haughty lotus]

kazama

[clear ginkgo]

Oh I have Furina 80/90, 2 crowned & I think fav sword on her. & the Fontaine set. Olorun I just don’t like his character & feels to me I need to be more desired. His kit…fine I do like the little flight you get with him. I do enjoy Yaoyao I just have her benched a lot rn too

[ruby canopy]

Hey how are they? Good enough?

[balmy cove]

What’s better for full support Kazuha, R5 Toukabou or R1 Iron Sting?

[quaint fern]

Fav

But uh there's not really a difference between those two

Whichever one you have leveled up most if no fav

[violet cipher]

should I get new artifacts for more crit rate/other stats or with the set bonus are these fine?

craftable coming soon

[hazy lotus]

assuming with lauma u only have about 74 cr right now so u def want more cr if possible

[lyric cargo]

looks like it's mainly the circlet tanking the crit rate

you want 100% after buffs, so 70% as sad solo Nefer. 60% with Lauma. 50% with Lauma + c2 Nahida

[lyric cargo]

goblet or circlet, I assume?

[violet cipher]

I meant craftable weapon in a scenario where people told me to do craftable instead of wid

[grim sundial]

TF YELAN ENVISAGED ECHOES SO HARD

ITS RAGEBAITING ME

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-7657343964517710714

[lyric cargo]

oh. I personally don't think craftable is worth it unless you need r5 Widsith elsewhere

that's a point of contention, though. I've seen weapon sheets with Widsith placed wildly differently

one said assuming EM buff only and 50% uptime, it's better than r5 of the limited banner 4★

another placed it lower than r1 craftable, I think they just assumed you never get the EM buff

getting EM buff 4x in a row is a 1/81 chance
so if you're trying to bruteforce a clear that's still doable imo

[elder bluff]

when you really like gacha until it goes EM every time

[violet cipher]

I see. I do also have Neuvilette’s weapon and it’s not really going on anyone except c0 Mualani (which I have alternatives for)

[lyric cargo]

for what it's worth, getting EM 3 times out of 4 should be like a 1 / 15 chance

I'm actually not sure if 4 times in a row is the right assumption. how many Widsith rotations can you get in one stygian attempt?

2 minutes / 30 seconds = 4

[lyric cargo]

oh, and another weapon comparison said average case Widsith is only very slightly worse than r5 craftable

[gaunt iron]

oh i meant getting refinements for navia's weapon hsjdgjdgsk a day late so i turned off ping

my genshin end goal is c6r5 navia 🫡

[lyric cargo]

is that better than using r5 of Mav's weapon?

I don't look much at whale stuff, my investment curve kinda tops out at c2r1

[crude dirge]

anyone from eu online and can join?

[bright cape]

is dahlia a good character?

[valid anchor]

as any genshin character, he's fine, but needs some investment.

[bright cape]

i was tired of my skirk dying to a fart

with weekly chess boss

[half anchor]

what is aino's best weapon in a nefer team

[valid anchor]

do you have the 5.8 limited weapon?

[half anchor]

nah

[valid anchor]

ah, yeah, that boss needs frozen often.

[bright cape]

i dunno both husband and wife hit hard

[valid anchor]

then, ye'olde highly-refined Favonius greatsword (R5 highly preferred)

[half anchor]

im only r2💀

[lyric cargo]

it's fav. doesn't matter if you have the event weapon

[lyric cargo]

it's fine, just means you need more crit rate to get the same proc chance

bit of a tradeoff between CR and ER

I opted for more ER here, since Aino was sometimes funneling her fav particles to a teammate in stygian for the first rotation
which should increase her own ER reqs

[thorn bay]

I don’t think she needs that much

Yaoyao e aino e then I got her ult instantly (197er)

Ig to team

[valid anchor]

mine has pretty less. 212,6% ER.

[thorn bay]

I have less er but still get her ult almost instantly

Her er req and ult cd so low
Bery noice

[delicate ermine]

hmmm

[lyric cargo]

is this with Aino absorbing her own particles? being fed fav from someone?

for me it was the opposite, Aino feeding her particles to other chars

[lyric cargo]

(doesn't show artifacts?)

[valid anchor]

Gonna post em later.

[hearty solstice]

i’m f2p/low spender fyi, who has more pull value? skirkless escoffier or escoffierless skirk? these are my characters

[lyric cargo]

Escoffier without skirk should have more pull value

[fringe bear]

it's very sad my Flins with no sig and 2p+2p ain't gonna beat him 😢

[bright cape]

i mean u got time to farm his set

also i heard there is hidden tech where u can chip off a lot of his hp with good timing

[fringe bear]

i'm trying, not a single good piece yet (

[balmy cove]

Which Mualani build is better?

[lyric cargo]

for better feedback:
https://enka.network/

[fringe bear]

yeah, ill try to farm, is he beatable with c0 flins and c2 aino tho?

[lyric cargo]

looks like it's 80EM vs 40 crit dmg?

[bright cape]

i dunno how feasible this is. but it might help.
https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Flins_Mains/comments/1omtvv8/can_anyone_explain_how_this_guy_nuked_almost_half/
@fringe bear

[fringe bear]

yeah, i've seen that one, but investment is crazy and aino c6 )

[bright cape]

oh i see

i haven't even attempte a single dire till date

the jump is too high

only one that might have been possible was crab

[balmy cove]

Ya

[fringe bear]

yeah, crab was soo free,

[fringe bear]

well horse is beatable with c0 skirk)

[bright cape]

with perfect supports may be

i dunno how that even works

[fringe bear]

in her premium team, ofc

[bright cape]

we cannot freeze the horse right?

[fringe bear]

apply permo hydro with furina

[fringe bear]

no

[bright cape]

does that help skirk some way?

we are not reacting a lot

[fringe bear]

ofc)))) how else would u be able to create void rifts, furina here does not do damage so only er needed, ez to build, citlali with ttds

And the veteran is so easy if you have sigewinne

[bright cape]

oh i see. u cheesed veteran

[fringe bear]

yeah, my arle has a good build but no 5 star weapon so))

[bright cape]

do u not have PJWS?

[fringe bear]

no)

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1307177861894897817/1083056043526979714.gif

i hope u get that from standard soon

i got two from there

[fringe bear]

ty, i got wgs and lost prayer, can't complain)

[bright cape]

i thought u were a whale

[fringe bear]

no, everyone is c0 on my account (in terms of 5 stars that are not from standard) and the amount of 5star weapons is very limited

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1338920719589048320/888612380634927176-96.gif

[crude dirge]

whats pjws

oh xiao spear

[lyric cargo]

ngl, expecting 2pc 2pc Flins to beat dire gave the impression you had a lot of constellations 😅

[fringe bear]

0 constellations) that's the thing, i don't expect unless I farm godlike full set for him, but i can't even get a single feather, should I perform some kind of ritual to get better artifacts or smth🤔 ))

[lyric cargo]

just keep farming.. Flins might not be the best char to craft artifacts for 🤔
since he has many useful substats

unlike Nefer, who just has 2 on sands / goblet / circlet
so any crafted piece there will have the full number

[fringe bear]

true

[jolly spire]

Is this good?

[bright cape]

with neuvi, it's good enough

otherwise, u will need a bit more ER

[jolly spire]

how much more?

[bright cape]

what team do u use her with?

kqm recommendation is like this.

[jolly spire]

I have no team for her yet.... I pulled her on a whim and primarily use her on the archon team

[bright cape]

nahida, raiden?

[jolly spire]

At the moment Nahida and fire girl

Mavuika!

[bright cape]

oh i see

i would go around 200 then.

[jolly spire]

200! That's crazy!

[bright cape]

u want to burst regularly on that team

for her dmg buffs

if u r just doing burgeon stuff, it's fine

[jolly spire]

who else can she be a team with?

[thorn bay]

Looks like you got sig on her

[bright cape]

she is very versatile

[jolly spire]

I do

[bright cape]

with her sig, ER HP HP might be an option

[jolly spire]

Her hp feels really low though?

[thorn bay]

Er hp hp

Should be atleast 36k

With sig 16%

[jolly spire]

Hmm hmm kay. 🤔 can she be a dps?

[bright cape]

u r already at 48k

[thorn bay]

Sub

[bright cape]

[jolly spire]

I said can she be

🥲

[bright cape]

only at c6

[thorn bay]

Sub dps

[jolly spire]

Hmm hmm what if I pair her with candace and Dehya?

[thorn bay]

What the dehya doing there

[jolly spire]

Pyro application and the extra hp is good for her to divert damage from her damage form

[thorn bay]

?

[jolly spire]

Self harm

Prevention

[thorn bay]

Wah?

[jolly spire]

@bright cape furina self harms with her form, or heals no?

[thorn bay]

You just need a healer?

[jolly spire]

And Dehya prevents further harm

[thorn bay]

Wah?

I’m leaving

[jolly spire]

She diverts damage? No

[bright cape]

yes u need healer

the dmg% buff she provides is based on the healing amount

[jolly spire]

What?

😐

[bright cape]

yah. her 3 animals takes all team members hp to half

and depending on how much u heal, she gains fanfare which is proportional to the the dmg% boost she provides

[jolly spire]

😐 so wait someone needs to heal

[bright cape]

yep.

furina can heal but it's janky

[jolly spire]

Fs..... 😑

Hmm hmm who can heal though....

[bright cape]

no come back

[thorn bay]

;(

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/910310147321102346.webp?size=240&animated=true

[thorn bay]

I have school :/

[bright cape]

oh ok.

[bright cape]

anybody is fine

teamwide healers are preffered

to stack fanfare.

[thorn bay]

Not ifa and iansan

[bright cape]

some characters heal themselves

like neuvi

[jolly spire]

Hmm sango only on burst, kokomi only 1.

😑 kuki*

[thorn bay]

Huh ?

[bright cape]

both of them work

weirdly the teams u r playing are burgeon and hyperbloom

there furina's damage boost doesn't matter too much

[jolly spire]

😐 I'm a dendro main...

[bright cape]

then u should play alhaitham like me

[jolly spire]

I'm a selective dendro main

[thorn bay]

Isn’t Emilie burn sub dps

[jolly spire]

I have emilie

[bright cape]

u should get kinich

[jolly spire]

She is my favourite, I'm not a fan of her weapon

[jolly spire]

I wanted him i lost my fifty fifty to Tignarhi

C1 I think at the time

[thorn bay]

Her artifact set literally says to go off field

[jolly spire]

Yes, that's why I swap her out

[thorn bay]

Ok bye

[jolly spire]

[thorn bay]

School

[jolly spire]

😴

[languid kite]

does the golden troupe set effect stack? i was curious if i have it on my furina and fischl as well if it becomes useless or not

[haughty lotus]

It only works on the wearer so stacking doesn’t matter

[languid kite]

was just making sure if my furina has it and fischl has it if it like stops working on one of them idk

[haughty lotus]

You only have to worry about that for sets that affect other characters, like scroll which tells you it doesn’t stack

[lyric cargo]

she usually runs fav sword for that reason, especially in stygian

making her sig unfortunately not that good

even in Neuv teams in Stygian, I'm not sure I'd run it

it's making me quite hesitant to go for Nefer's sig, maybe I'd rather consider a constellation or skipping until a rerun and hoping the weapon banner will be better then

for all I know, they'll put her run Zhongli then, though ^^

[bright cape]

for neuvi teams, it's fine.
u just have to funnel neuvi's E to her

and burst will be available 2nd rotation onwards

[bright cape]

i think furina's sig is ok

if u go ER HP HP

i wouldn't be sad losing to her sig

[elder bluff]

or stay with fav because it can generate energy for team
sig only increases her personal damage which doesn't matter much

[lyric cargo]

sounds kinda like running nilou sig with ER HP CD?
I have that, and I'm usually running fav in stygian. these days, I just leave her on fav most places

[bright cape]

exactly

i have somehow kept er heavy pieces around

it’s sad how after er hp cd, the hp falls around 40k just like pipe or fav

[lyric cargo]

don't think this would be enough in most cases, despite the flower

she's usually just on this instead

ER is higher than teams need on paper, but Stygian exists 🤔

[quaint fern]

Wtf

She's usually fine 2nd rot for me

What are you running?

[lyric cargo]

usually Neuv Xilo Kaz or Neuv Citlali Esco, or something like that

I know she's supposed to have low ER reqs with Neuv

maybe I'll put her back on hp% sands and see how it goes

[bright cape]

may be u r not funneling neuvi particles to her.
This is more than enough for me.

also her damage feels substantial with HP HP CDMG

[hazy lotus]

just get c4 guys

[bright cape]

i am trying to get her tenacity

[lyric cargo]

I usually do, though Neuv might need his particles himself tbh

maybe I should look at what hp% cd er flowers I have

I thought I'd keep running him on Widsith, to enable a better flower and to help with brute forcing Stygian
but Nefer has claimed that

[bright cape]

oh i see.

my neuvi usually had no issue

i went from prototype amber to his sig

new tierlist dropped

ineffa and chevruse feels a bit off.

[viral mulch]

bro unironically looks at tierlists

[bright cape]

i used to at the beginning

[elder bluff]

used to

[strange scarab]

literally still use it

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-desert-speed-idiot-mario-bros-wii-gif-4579521032062283911

[clear ginkgo]

my stats rn, stil unsure on who to build.

[crimson plover]

Level furina up dude

[clear ginkgo]

more hp? ik to lvl up the sword. but thats all ik, 4 outta 5 are in the good red standing in game.

[clear ginkgo]

she is lvl 90 now.

[crimson plover]

Your cr is awful tbh, her minions actually do dmg so you kinda want a decent ratio, plus you're using favge so you need cr

[violet cipher]

do I need a new timepiece for Nefer or is this fine? I'm between farming a skirk set (the one in natlan instead of rn/or just improve rn - yes I have furina) and working on this (though mavuika set needs a little work to)

[devout anvil]

would anyone be willing to help me clear abyss

i would appreciate if i could join a vc and stream my clear currently i think my rotations are a skill issue

[sage sail]

is it worth it to craft a tenacity goblet for furina or should i just wait for a future character?

i think it shouldn't take too long to get a decent double crit HP goblet from strongbox

[lyric cargo]

I'd imagine teams where you run tenacity on Furina will be teams where her personal damage is less important

so you'd probably not need an absolute top hp% goblet on her

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus cro ive been scammed

[lyric cargo]

Nefer circlet (trying to roll only EM + CR), or Flins circlet (all 4 rolls are good, holy cow)

really nice one regardless, just need enough rerolls if it's for Nefer

[feral reef]

yeah its godly for flins
but hes a bum ahh fairy

hey also
does this trigger at start of SO or gotta wait ten secs from either 321 starting or main timer starting

[lyric cargo]

turns out she's actually just shy of getting her burst at the start if I just go Nefer → Aino
trying to start verdant dew production as early as possible to clear the artifact farming stage fast

[lyric cargo]

oh, xiphos passive I see

[thorn bay]

This is what I do

[thorn bay]

I haven’t gotten her a4 so verdant due is slow for now

Today I just farmed her weapon mat

Now doing hw

Aino on silkin
Kuki deep wood
Yao2 instructor

Nefer don’t have set for now

[lyric cargo]

Moonsign: Ascendant Gleam: Her Elemental Burst Precision Hydronic Cooler is enhanced: The Cool Your Jets Ducky will fire water balls more frequently, and the water balls will deal AoE Hydro DMG over a larger area of effect.
this?

[thorn bay]

Nefer a4

[lyric cargo]

oh

[feral reef]

it fires kaeya more?

[thorn bay]

Gives verdant due faster

[thorn bay]

Ig I kinda need that too

Her circle is smol

[lyric cargo]

that only applies when holding charge attack to sprint, I think
it's a catchup mechanic for when you're stalled on it?

[lyric cargo]

it really is, I'm ready for Columbina to be just that without circle impact tbh

[thorn bay]

Hmmm

[thorn bay]

Not sure if I can actually get her bcuz I lost my guarentee and wasted all my luck and wanting to get durin

[lyric cargo]

huh, no fav proc and you get burst immediately?
is that the event weapon, or are you on fav? got a build card?

you might've posted it last time

[thorn bay]

Not really

[thorn bay]

I just use the event weapon and black tassel on yaoyao

[thorn bay]

Probably needs c4 for that tho

[lyric cargo]

ah, so it is the event weapon

I think fav is better if you can get enough ER + CR on the build

[thorn bay]

The whole team doesn’t need energy except aino tho

[lyric cargo]

for a char who actually cares about their other stats, the event weapon would be great

[thorn bay]

Ig nefer too

[lyric cargo]

but I think since Aino doesn't care, fav is just better

[lyric cargo]

Lauma seemed extremely energy hungry to me, but I was trying to burst first rotation

[feral reef]

whats yaoyao do for nefer

[thorn bay]

Oh yeah
-# I forgot the prem team

[thorn bay]

Dendro app for verdant due

Some heal

Energy gen

[feral reef]

my nefer only does 70k hits 😔

[lyric cargo]

I'm currently strongboxing deepwood, trying to get an EM goblet with ER substat
so I can use an off-piece with high ER substat
ignore the unleveled circlet on Nahida, I'm still farming the set
also, she'd probably be back on proto amber

I'll level talents on Lauma + Nefer and Lauma's weapon after stygian's artifact farming period is over

[lyric cargo]

lunar bloom hits? do you have Lauma?

[feral reef]

yes

[thorn bay]

I wasted all my resin on deepwood before I accidentally got c1r1

[lyric cargo]

is it against the high res phase maybe? talents on Nefer + Lauma leveled?

[lyric cargo]

deepwood + gilded domain?

[feral reef]

want to see my failure to clear stygian
Maybe i miss something

[thorn bay]

Ye I literally had none

I got some good deepwood

And no gilded tho

[feral reef]

no way da weis waifu

[lyric cargo]

I try to only farm domains where both sets are good, so I avoided gilded after deepwood and flower of paradise strongbox became available

[thorn bay]

I don’t really regret cuz I still got like full set of artifacts for kuki before I even knew I would use her
Plus bp is still giving for fragile resin

[feral reef]

ts is embarrassing ngl

@lyric cargo am i js cooked

[opal surge]

What the helly

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I did see a 100k once you actually had Lauma burst and it wasn't in its gauge phase where it has very high res

I don't know what a good baseline expectation is right now, as my talents are still 1 7 7 Lauma and 1 8 1 Nefer
but with c2 Nahida instead of Kuki

[weary delta]

Hi I’m trying to level up companionship with my characters. I also want to unlock chests so I would like help to explore my world. I would like to upgrade any weapons that are worth it and artifacts too. I don’t know which characters to focus on upgrading because I don’t have a strong preference for who I play, if anyone could help that would be nice , I’m in the America server

646262714

Join and give me advice if you can

[viral mulch]

crazy profile

[lyric cargo]

I did 20 minutes of testing
10 on each boss, 5 with fav Nahida and 5 with p-amber
wanted to see if p-amber is actually necessary

got closer to clearing with pamber, the team is just too frail otherwise I guess

the pamber team would've gotten a Herra clear if I didn't panic. Nefer died and it was really low. Could've held Lauma skill for a kill, but tapped it on instinct

[feral reef]

is lauma or nahida better on pamber

do we have calc

[lyric cargo]

Lauma benefits more from EM

for Nahida it's just personal damage and nod-krai resonance

[feral reef]

might try pamber nahida for so

[thorn bay]

how are you not getting ult almost instantly on aino

[feral reef]

ins hate me with these no er pieces\

[thorn bay]

why not just ins on everything except sands

[lyric cargo]

in general I think my talents aren't quite leveled enough to clear without favourable widsith procs
will try again after stygian farming is over and I get to level the talents more

[thorn bay]

and then put er piece there with fav

[feral reef]

i actually have er sans on ins 😇

[thorn bay]

i think 5 star er piece would be better

[weary delta]

Can anyone help me

[thorn bay]

maybe ping hpycndl??

[feral reef]

crazy ins set

[weary delta]

Why

[feral reef]

14 er on each

[thorn bay]

hpycndl is NA

i should get back to doing hw

[lyric cargo]

5-star crit circlet with high ER sub was close, in my case
but 5-star ER sands is better for me

[weary delta]

Idk who that is

[feral reef]

oh yeah ik why i dont have what u said
no luck with ins circ

[thorn bay]

@bright cape

should be awake by now

[weary delta]

Oh! I didn’t recognize them, I do know this person, I’m silly

[thorn bay]

dw sleepy head

[feral reef]

solution to sustain problem js pull c1 lauma

simples

[bright cape]

what do u need help with?

good morning

[lyric cargo]

^ @bright cape

[bright cape]

then u can just post ur character list here

[lyric cargo]

tbh, I'm not sure how much ingame help with that is possible
you'd probably just be on chest spotting duty?
if it's help with farming bosses / domains / etc, that's more feasible

[bright cape]

also @thorn bay, hidden is the best helper here.

he knows a lot more than me

[thorn bay]

ur NA

[weary delta]

Well I want to collect chests for primos, I ran out of resin so I can’t do much.

[thorn bay]

and only na person ik who can avtually help

[bright cape]

for that just do interactive map or compass

[weary delta]

Interactive map isn’t really helpful it’s frustrating I’m on console. And compass - don’t have any that can help.

[feral reef]

fcking horse

one shotting aino

[serene aspen]

Should I build Kirara for Nefer?

[bright cape]

@lyric cargo this is worth rerolling right?

[weary delta]

I guess I’ll just have to explore alone

[thorn bay]

first time seeing a person with similar mora to me

nvm i dont even have mora

600

[thorn bay]

https://tenor.com/view/date-a-live-yoshinon-patting-yoshino-gif-12018889

[feral reef]

for pamber
is it 6% of nahihi or the recipient of heals

[bright cape]

i can try helping with combat. with exploring with already explored area, it's really tough.

u might get help from someone in maincord

[rugged sparrow]

exploring alone is better anyway

[rugged sparrow]

6% of the recipient's respective mhp

[feral reef]

tanks

[bright cape]

@rugged sparrow is it worth rerolling?

[feral reef]

why couldnt aino ascend with er 😢

[bright cape]

this was my old one.

[thorn bay]

she doesnt need that much er

[feral reef]

its her only useful stat

[thorn bay]

how do i gitgud artifacts

[feral reef]

[rugged sparrow]

2 dead rolls so sure

[feral reef]

whale
simple

[bright cape]

farm for one at a time.

[rugged sparrow]

though for feather I'd rather re-roll if it's 4 useful subs

(also flower)

[thorn bay]

im only farming for nefer

[feral reef]

six seven

[thorn bay]

i farmed mh for 2 months not a good full set

[feral reef]

no six seven 😢

[weary delta]

Maybe

[bright cape]

@lyric cargo @thorn bay @rugged sparrow I rerolled 5 feathers

on feather

[thorn bay]

Nice

[weary delta]

So do you think you could help

[thorn bay]

I can’t get artifacts

[weary delta]

I WANT TO STEAL MY HUSBANDS MREs!

[feral reef]

Where 4pc

[bright cape]

i dunno how even I can start help with exploring.

[feral reef]

[bright cape]

it would be very inefficient.

[feral reef]

Use chatgpt

[lyric cargo]

I'd hold off on it, stygian artifact farming isn't over yet

[bright cape]

i already rolled 5 times

the feathers were just laying around

[lyric cargo]

(it's Sensi imo, if we're talking game knowledge. or lemon, but I haven't seen them in a minute. probably others I'm unfairly forgetting)

[lyric cargo]

no second device to use it on, I guess?

[rugged sparrow]

rip george

[lyric cargo]

I think ER and CR are kinda her only good stats, though
I'd take more ER if I could get it, mostly because of stygian rotation 1

event weapon doesn't need as much, it seems. but fav is strictly better if Aino's needs are met

[thorn bay]

You’re like almost always online so you are the best one even if you’re knowledge is weaker than sensi

[thorn bay]

Ig I’m kinda taking c4 as granted

It’s op

[lyric cargo]

hopefully they put her on a banner with a 5★ I actually want, at some point

though by that point Aino might just be the backup to Columbina, we'll see

[crude dirge]

which one is better for furina

[thorn bay]

Em isn’t as useful for Furina

Probably 1st one

And that isn’t even furina

[crude dirge]

im at 76 pity already

[thorn bay]

90

[lyric cargo]

btw, this theater was absolute
trying to get c3r1 Flins to clear anything after having up use up Aino early 😅

[crude dirge]

hidden can u join for coop achievements?

[thorn bay]

You didn’t get aino c4 on flins banner? How unfortunate

[weary delta]

[lyric cargo]

they look identical expect for one having crit rate where the other doesn't?

[lyric cargo]

wasn't my Flins ^^

[crude dirge]

40 em for one cr roll

[thorn bay]

Cr>em

[lyric cargo]

I have no Ineffa either, maybe I'll get her on a rerun

[thorn bay]

I want durin and columbina

[lyric cargo]

gotta head out to do shopping soon

[thorn bay]

Hopefully I can get em

[lyric cargo]

ideally you find someone who also needs the achievement

[lyric cargo]

EM isn't a useful stat unless she's triggering reactions
what team are we talking?

[crude dirge]

is it worth using on set circlet to use one of these sands (i dont have ANY good hp sands on gt)

[crude dirge]

general support i guess

[lyric cargo]

EM's not useful then

[crude dirge]

stat line ( +19% cr from ascension)

[bright cape]

just found out. I cannot even use my compass in ur world.

[lyric cargo]

I'd post the enka card for both builds (with and without on-set circlet)

[crude dirge]

it takes time to update

[lyric cargo]

yeah, you have to relog for it to update instantly
paimon menu → exit to login interface

[crude dirge]

wait i can relog to load in faster?

and my sands are terrible

[haughty lotus]

Nice crit cro

[feral reef]

Crut up

[haughty lotus]

Watch your language mc

[strange scarab]

[weary delta]

Unfortunately it’s just frustrating and I feel that it’s no help

[haughty lotus]

Gmc

[lyric cargo]

are you using the official map, which only has one comment per chest?
there's an unofficial version with comments from many other users, basically just gotta scroll until you find a useful one

[weary delta]

[weary delta]

[valid anchor]

the HoYoLAB interactive map is not very helpful when you're only on console. You need to open it on your mobile, check position and go ahead in-game.

[stiff surge]

hi can someone with c6 characters add me pls so i can use your characters for imaginarium theather. My uid is 706495091

[tall pine]

I think i need to work on circklet (i am very unlucky with rerolling/elixir on it) but anything else i should work on? (C1 soon)

[lyric cargo]

UID with 7 is EU, right?
I can add you, but my only c6 five-star is Tighnari 😅

I still think my lineup is pretty good this theater

[lyric cargo]

what a sands
that circlet looks good as it is, don't undervalue atk% imo

[tall pine]

ngl when that sands rolled i almost fell out of my chair

[lyric cargo]

you'd rather have most of those rolls in crit dmg of course, but it's not that much better
Bennett being a big reason why crit dmg is better

[tall pine]

akasha team is wrong though, i run citlali instead of kazuha but that aside i am pretty happy with her

[lyric cargo]

citlali and yelan?

if you're up against bosses that can't be frozen, I'd drop one of them

triggering freeze would just remove the existing aura then

[lyric cargo]

oh, the circlet is also your off-piece.
it has 2 dead stats, so I wouldn't re-roll it.

the chance to avoid the bad stats for 5 rolls and get a perfect outcome is (2/4)^5 = 1/32

so on average you'd need to reroll it 32 times to get what you have

if you're trying to only roll crit dmg, that's a (1/4)^5 = 1/1024 chance

[tall pine]

Pretty sure my team is Citlali, Arle, Benny, Xilonen

[valid anchor]

yeah, UID starting with 7 is EU server.

[tall pine]

did not reroll my cirklet, used an elixir to get a better piece but bad rolls. Most feathers went to my goblet

Trying to work on chasca as well but unfortunately there is no akasha ranking for her so cant check how the top builds are

[lyric cargo]

here's my supporting cast, let me know if this is useful to you
I can change equipment if someone got messed up since I set them (not sure if the game snapshots the builds when we put them in)

[lyric cargo]

what's with those 49cv (exactly) pieces
I don't think I even recall seeing one without a decimal

[tall pine]

no clue, this is my most balanced one though imo

but chasca is still work in progress.. have been stuck in the obsidian domain since release, only leaving for stygan onslaught

She is in a rainbow team to optimise her potential

[lyric cargo]

oh, it's because mine shows roll value instead of CV
it's a setting I guess, but I think roll value is the more useful metric

[thorn bay]

Over capping

But da- that circlet

[tall pine]

i think the 72% is including the boost but yea i am worried i will go over 100CR

removed CR circlet already due to way to much CR

[opal surge]

It's not including the boost

[thorn bay]

60 is the max

Your cr is 112

[tall pine]

yea so i will for sure remove some CR pieces

[thorn bay]

Should I reroll the flower or sands

[tall pine]

issue is that i did not expect at all to roll so high in that goblet

[opal surge]

Well it's a pretty easy fix considering your circlet currently only has one useful roll and is an offpiece

[thorn bay]

Atk%?

[opal surge]

Yeah

[strange scarab]

👋

[weary delta]

Yea I’m aware how to do it. It still does not help much at all. So.

[lyric cargo]

I use it mostly to know which ones I'm missing at the end

using the ingame compass to find chests and marking them off on the map

[lyric cargo]

btw, you see where it says top 1% on the card?
you can turn on the display of additional digits in the settings

I imagine it's better than just top 1%

[tall pine]

She is placed on 3665 of all arlecchino builds so pretty proud of that

[rugged sparrow]

not all

[tall pine]

All akasha builds

[rugged sparrow]

no

that's not how you interpret the akasha LB

[lyric cargo]

flower and plume might be possible to improve, btw. they're 7 useful substats each

you might be focused too much on crit value? 7 subs is a bit low compared to how long the rest of the build indicates you've been grinding

[rugged sparrow]

it's specifically for vape leaderboard under that specific team/rot assumption

[thorn bay]

It doesn’t work like that

[lyric cargo]

I assume it still ranks all the Arle builds on Akasha on all the leaderboards, and at the end it gives you whichever you ranked highest on?

so in that sense more than 1% of users will see they're top 1%, as it changes which board it's looking at

maybe that's wrong and not every build contributes to each board

was going to check the number of builds on each leaderboard, but I can only find that info for the one the char is placed highest on

I assume the ER req part actively filters builds out, so they won't even be on the board

but apart from that?
ER req won't really be a thing for Arle

[weary delta]

Can anyone help me explore my inazuma

[forest venture]

👀

[lyric cargo]

well, it does appear to be possible 🤔
surely it's worth losing my sanity
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Ph6VH7Ia8

[thorn bay]

This is with fav sir

Tbf my fav is lvl 60

The event weapon gives 24 energy

So…

Fav might be better with enough stats and maybe even r5 but the event weapon seems better for low investment

[lyric cargo]

what's your ER there?
and yeah, the idea behind fav it helps the team rather than Aino herself

since she doesn't have stat priorities other than ER and CR for fav, she should be able to build enough of it that the event weapon isn't necessary

with instructor and in stygian, ER can get tighter of course

[sage sail]

im not stopping until it hits 50cv

[opal surge]

rerolling with 4 pity actually doesnt increase th e chance for it to hit 50 cv at all

you should use it on something else if cv is your only concern

[sage sail]

my next reroll will be my first guaranteed 4 upgrades

[opal surge]

yeah if youre continuing if its not 50cv regardless you should not use it on the goblet

because it does nothing to increase your chance at 50cv, its the same as a no pity reroll

[soft socket]

how do i play co-op again ;-; /gen

[thorn bay]

You have to finish the quest you are on

[soft socket]

thank you, I've read it (like rlly read the quest logs)

[bright cape]

how much ER is needed on ayaka for this?

[viral mulch]

get like as much as u can and suffer the fuck out on first rot then second gimmick would be fine

i used cit+ayaka double cryo and to get ayaka burst instantly at the start i needed at least 285 + fav

[bright cape]

thanks. that's quite a lot.

[fast rock]

How can I continue this anecdote? I got this like 5 times already

[jovial crag]

Guys how do I get all the luminoculous or whatever they are called? I have got compass to the max level but can't seem to level up the nodkrai statues to max I need 14 more

[thorn bay]

Next version

Map extension

[strange scarab]

you need to do Sayu's anecdote first

[elder bluff]

if an anecdote appears, mean you should do it first

some of them are in a sequence and one needs others to be done

[lyric cargo]

instructor kuki?
and yeah, that build obviously has the potential to get more ER and CR to make fav work
which will help the team more?

one slightly nice thing about the event weapon is you might not have to wait for particles to get your burst, as afaik it's instant (as soon as the reaction is triggered?)

[sick quarry]

bwa

[viral mulch]

enrique

[slow carbon]

can someone check my lauma build?