📌gimshim-help

[thorn bay]

I wish she had a little bit higher multiplier

Jk if she did the sweaty keqing mains gone

[lyric cargo]

Nahida teams during Natlan, and now Furina teams during Nod-Krai

sorry, you're only allowed to play c6 Dehya or c6 Tighnari

all other standard chars have been sentenced to be bad

and even those two will feel like playing Sumeru meta in 2025

[thorn bay]

Heh how about c0 of them

[lyric cargo]

pray you'll be able to clear theater

[thorn bay]

Tbh my char is smol that I can only go up to 6

[lyric cargo]

there's abyss, but they provide little value there as you'll likely have stronger teams to clear that

[neon wave]

I meant Fischl

[thorn bay]

Off field
On field keqing

[lyric cargo]

I don't hate myself enough to try that

[thorn bay]

Alr time to get keqing echo

Again

[lyric cargo]

leveled for the free standard fate

no way I'd lvl90

[thorn bay]

I already had her lvl 80

[indigo turtle]

anyone know where to report bug..there is only 1 goat here at the photo taking location. doubt the others ran away when i accidentally did plunge attackk the other day, but it has been few days are the goats gone forever?????

[thorn bay]

10 more lvls

[thorn bay]

You made poor goat extinct

[indigo turtle]

im crying now im stuck at the first photo and cant proceed

[thorn bay]

I think you can plunge with only jumps

If you time it

[strange scarab]

try uninstalling and reinstall

[thorn bay]

Without colliding

[indigo turtle]

i fly down from the waypoint and click atk

🛌

[neon wave]

You already teleported away/relogged/came back I assume?
You can contact support through the Paimon Menu > Feedback

[indigo turtle]

yeah.. every day i come back and there is no other goats

alright found the feedback thanks

[cerulean void]

Cr is at 86% with the set buff

Also the r5 widsith is on mualani

[elder bluff]

I need a CR circlet

[thorn bay]

75cr

Not that bad?

[elder bluff]

she is holding for nefer

[thorn bay]

Mine 99.7cr

Not good set aino but eh

Her passive was 15 I thought it was 10

[fast rock]

Does furina has any value in my account?

[rugged sparrow]

Furina always has a value one way or another
good for your Ayaka, Tao, Varesa (assuming Xianyun + Iansan team variant), even Tigh and Raiden

[lyric cargo]

Escoffier teams
Hutao

Varesa can use her with Xianyun, but I'd rather use chevreuse overload unless there's a Stygian boss that makes that worse

(I assume you don't have Xianyun, here)

[fast rock]

For just doing more dmg? Like for example,is it worth spending 80 pulls for her , instead of getting the new character

[lyric cargo]

Escoffier teams (and likely Hutao teams I think) just aren't good enough without Furina

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it's definitely more dmg to some of your teams as mentioned
the trend with new chars require you to also pull newer chars (Skirk + Escoff, Flins + Ineffa, etc) so it's really up to you

[lyric cargo]

maybe you can clear a Stygian boss specifically made for it, but it's leaving most of the potential dmg on the table

[rugged sparrow]

hoyo has been moving away from Furina-centric teams but she still has her place in the meta

it's not like they're gonna make lunar reactions a permanent meta, considering some of the upcoming chars assumingly don't have Moon Wheel (and thus can't use Lunar Reaction)

[fast rock]

I see

[lyric cargo]

it does kinda fit with the "chars falling off after 2 regions" thing that Furina would become worse now and stay worse

but I don't see how they'd do that, besides making dmg% never matter again

[rugged sparrow]

two things need to happen

1. dmg% becomes irrelevant (basically focus on transformatives/lunar reaction)
2. hydro not relevant (lol)

[lyric cargo]

I guess new supports with even better buffs. but that'd be kinda absurd levels of powercreep

[fast rock]

I don't think they will,furina sells a lot
Even if they want to,they will probably just make another version of furina

[lyric cargo]

also, with Stygian needing 3 teams

I was actually still often using OG Sumeru hyperbloom for my third team until Lauma

[fast rock]

If you have my account, would u drop 80 on furina instead of like getting xilonen for example

[lyric cargo]

I think it extends the lifetime of chars, needing 3 teams
unless you have at least dolphin level funds and pull multiple teams per game version

[opal surge]

Yeah 100%

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[opal surge]

If Xilonen is the other option I'd get furina in a heartbeat

[rugged sparrow]

I mean we still don't know when Xilonen is re-running, too

[opal surge]

I think furina for me is arguably the most valuable unit on my account

[rugged sparrow]

the 5-star support trinity
Furina Xilo Citlali

[opal surge]

The only real reason to argue against her is if you continue to pull carries that can form full teams without her

[lyric cargo]

and Escoffier

[rugged sparrow]

Escoffier is an entire league on her own

[fast rock]

I see

Thanks, I'll think about it

[rugged sparrow]

worst case of Furina getting powercrept (like actually powercrept) is that u now have 2 Furinas

[lyric cargo]

rate my team:
Skirk, Escoffier, Furina, Furina

[rugged sparrow]

Furina/10

[lyric cargo]

(tbh, they'd just not make the second Furina hydro or cryo if they want to avoid that)

[rugged sparrow]

so much dmg% that Skirk would probably run atk% goblet there

don't give them ideas

next thing you know it's another Mavuika upgrade

or even Chasca

[fast rock]

When will be Nefer pre release contents

[rugged sparrow]

pretty sure her CC content stuff is out already?

[thorn bay]

I think ces tomorrow

[lyric cargo]

Columbina next dual dps, I can already smell it

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

I see

[thorn bay]

I might be wrong

[lyric cargo]

with Flins's and Nefer's best teams being optional sidegrade teams to "just use maindps Columbina"

[rugged sparrow]

I don't care enough about Nefer to look up

[lyric cargo]

but have you considered your dendro char count for theater

[rugged sparrow]

I should be good for dendro char count

[cedar flint]

I probably get nefer on rerun

[rugged sparrow]

I want to level up Kirara but without c4 she's like

[cedar flint]

she is somewhat pretty and I like that she kicks

[lyric cargo]

I got this + Lauma and Aino

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112749804427153499/1398728307184238743/grafik.png?ex=688d023f&is=688bb0bf&hm=8efd53957f8a75689cf798c0560d11ee83bd2ac34fe40c73952b8fbb104f3c5b&

so 7 geo, 7 dendro, 8 hydro

[thorn bay]

I think I found one but sadly I think it’s leak

[rugged sparrow]

rough

[thorn bay]

Boss health not moving

[rugged sparrow]

pyro's my biggest concern

when will they stop making pyro 5-star a DPS unit...

[lyric cargo]

interesting, I got 10 pyro with only one limited 5★ (11 with Traveler who I'm not counting as pyro)

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

looks fine in terms of char count to enter?

[rugged sparrow]

that's 7

need to level Dehya eventually ig

[tulip plaza]

is diluc that bad?

[rugged sparrow]

I just don't like him

[lyric cargo]

plenty more to level and a month to do it when it becomes necessary, though?

[rugged sparrow]

(he's also c7 btw I hate him so much that I don't activate his const)

[lyric cargo]

pretty much only viable in Xianyun plunge teams

[rugged sparrow]

and he's still dead

[elder bluff]

wanna try a website

that does this stuff

[lyric cargo]

sure, what is it?

[elder bluff]

https://graceoflives.github.io/genshin-it-planner/

[rugged sparrow]

the shameless plug

approved

[lyric cargo]

I'll have a look when I'm at my laptop

dev tools hard to access on mobile, sadly 😔

[viral mulch]

nom nom nom burp

[rugged sparrow]

pray for my gacha tmrw

zay zay zay

[viral mulch]

whos banner

[rugged sparrow]

Vivian

[viral mulch]

o

gl

[rugged sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-zenless-zone-zero-zenlesszonezero-vivian-vivian-banshee-gif-17928057178419400434

timing on her first banner sucks ass so Im hoping to get her now

[viral mulch]

why is that wipeout motion goofy af

it looks like she tryna imitate a fish

[rugged sparrow]

wipeout plays when the enemy dies after taking a "heavy" attack

it's probably triggered by something else while she's mid ult animation

because ults only do heavy attack by the end of the animation usually

[viral mulch]

equivalent of emoting after kill

[rugged sparrow]

some wipeout is goofy

[viral mulch]

dancin

[rugged sparrow]

📸

am trying to find the wipeout where my char just dematerialize

[cedar flint]

nah why did they just start a zzz asmr stream

[rugged sparrow]

and for a char that we have 0 idea, too

like if the asmr stream is on a more popular char I'd understand it

[cedar flint]

Building the hype with asmr

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

enough to forego the lvl95 mat?
(I guess you get it anyways, whether you activate the cons or not)

[rugged sparrow]

u get the mat anyway yeah

my Wrio is 95 because of it

[lyric cargo]

to be able to always enter, lunar mode theater requires 28 chars

so 3 * 9 + traveler would do
nine chars of each element

there are special guests of course, and the starting chars if you don't own those. we'll usually be fine with a bit less

pulling chars with narrow kits like lauma (only works with hydro) definitely has some downsides when it comes to actually clearing, though

I expect they'll give at least a special guest hydro when dendro is in theater for the foreseeable future, so it's more a long-term thing

[near prism]

you should be grateful to diluc

[rugged sparrow]

my stella fortuna slave

[warm ferry]

Thanks so much! I should keep that in my memory

[viral mulch]

only 2 more dilucs to go

[near prism]

real

[frozen creek]

do i get to keep the 5star i choose? cause the description says only during the event, but i've read that they're permanent

[cedar flint]

You mean the standard selector?

if so only during the event you can pick one

it is perma

[crude dirge]

imagine if it was temp

"u took c6+ character and leveled someone to 95? we're taking all back"

[fast rock]

Does Aino need less er with event weapon? Instead of fav

[lyric cargo]

I'm not sure, but are you having trouble reaching her ER reqs?
because afaik she doesn't really do damage. her only stat to build is ER

so fav would give energy to the team, the event weapon only gives her energy

[fast rock]

I'm planning to use her on Instructor
I don't think I'll be getting a lot of er

[lyric cargo]

no high ER instructor pieces, I guess?
fav has ER substat and gived particles, so it should make it somewhat easy

you can use an off-piece ER sands as well
and a crit rate circlet to make it more likely fav actually procs

[fast rock]

I think I have Instructor er sand

I didn't think it will be enough

[lyric cargo]

off-piece gives more ER as it can be a 5-star

[rugged sparrow]

she's 50 cost and only needs ER

[fast rock]

I forgot I can use 5 star artifact as off piece

[lyric cargo]

this is what I had on Bennett, 51.8 ER off-piece sands and 46.1 ER on substats

strangely, off-piece flower actually gives mine more ER with current builds.
probably because my instructor flower has so little of it
(this isn't a good Bennett build in most scenarios I think, if I had skyward sword it's be a bit more realistic)

[fast rock]

How much with event weapon? In solo hydro

[rugged sparrow]

idk I just Favge

and around 200 ER total is enough to burst every rot

[fast rock]

I see

[warm ferry]

can somebody help me with genshin like the characters and bosses???

I'm in america servers, and my adventure rank is like 36

pleaseee dm me so I can give u my uid for help 😭

[fringe bear]

the prophecy has never been so accurate

[bright cape]

how many times have u won?

i lost last year. but won this time

[fringe bear]

1 time only

[fringe bear]

Congrats

[orchid rampart]

Need help kill knuckle duckle for asc mat flins, anyone?

[distant leaf]

asia?

[orchid rampart]

My server? Yes

[distant leaf]

uid?

[orchid rampart]

1818505132

[distant leaf]

joining

[full sonnet]

Would engulfing lighting be better than deathmatch on flins

[distant leaf]

if u have negative er

[full sonnet]

With it i have 214% er

[distant leaf]

what about deathmatch

[full sonnet]

137%

Seems a bit overkill tho since his set gets me to 80% crit rate

[distant leaf]

im assuming he is solo electro or do u have a 2nd one

[full sonnet]

Kuki

[distant leaf]

well 140-150 he gets to burst every now and then

but the usual if u wanna burst every rotation is 160-180

[distant leaf]

hyperbloom team?

[full sonnet]

Im using flins sucrose aino kuki

[distant leaf]

oh that team

[full sonnet]

Nahida with flins?

Is what im assuming the team your thinking of is

Im sure flins will get better use out of my raiden

[distant leaf]

no no that team your using is the most used one rn

thats what my friend is using

[full sonnet]

I did more damage with xilonen and Bennet

[distant leaf]

imo the er bonus is more benefitial

[full sonnet]

Is using his quick burst a waste of time or is more like a preference thing

[distant leaf]

its like a varesa scenario

if flins is pure crit dmg and atk its just the quick burst

[full sonnet]

I got about everything he wants

High crit high em just gotta work on the set

[distant leaf]

if ur aiming for above 160er you basically burst every rotation

[full sonnet]

It's just disgusting how low his basic attack damage is doing 2k strikes

[distant leaf]

welp he's like hu tao

his basic attack is 🥀

unless ur willing to invest to c1 him for more dmg potential

and the nodkrai set

[full sonnet]

I was doing 15k with navia with a shimwara set

6 days to get 90 pulls sure

[distant leaf]

how much dmg u doing per rotation @full sonnet rn

[orchid rampart]

Your big damage same as your ign, "big" Haha

Thanks a lot

[distant leaf]

np

[wintry lynx]

Anybody got c6r5 Varesa or Navia can add on NA? I need help with theater

[full sonnet]

It must be atleast 130k atleast

Couldn't kill the natlan final boss fast enough probably cause i wasn't using natlan characters but i didn't think it'd be that bad

Should i be swirling hydro or electro

[distant leaf]

electro

[bright cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHMx1MDrZz0

jamie cooking

[tidal perch]

Hey are there any promo codes for primos?

Recently a live stream was there right?

[sage sail]

oh... might reshape but ig it's serviceable

[cedar flint]

Honestly I can’t recommend reshaping a 3 liner

[hazy lotus]

especially a flower lol

[bright cape]

how is lauma c1 to stack furina's fan fare?

@lyric cargo

lauma c1, alhaitham, furina c2 and say ineffa

[cedar flint]

idk why you would run them together but probably can work

oh alhaitam bot

[bright cape]

it was not originally my idea

[bright cape]

i mean u can replace him with anyone there

but yah. that's the wheelchair seat

[lyric cargo]

hmm, was going to say I'd wait with pulling that
you already got it?

since Lauma is not on banner

[west wharf]

anyone have any tips on leveling up characters fast? I always get stuck

[strange scarab]

Grind faster

[west wharf]

💔

revolutionary advice twin

[hazy lotus]

i hope columbina heals so i’m gratified in my decision not to pull lauma c1 🙏

[cedar flint]

Or run kuki

[lyric cargo]

correct decision I think, there's always reruns or putting someone on prototype amber

[cedar flint]

funnily enough Dori can work as well

[lyric cargo]

c6?
best healer in the game I heard (highest healing)

not that that matters

you're probably not talking about on-fielding her

[cedar flint]

Well in hyperbloom you probably could

[lyric cargo]

get stuck, how? running out of resources I assume?

you can get a bunch of character exp from the teapot shop every week, once your teapot level is high enough

[cedar flint]

someday I will build dori tho

[lyric cargo]

problem is uptime, I think. she has the fastest way to proc cores, but there's downtime

hb likes full uptime as it can deal dmg all rotation

hmm, she got the new event claymore

[cedar flint]

give her sac claymore or something ig

for double infusion

[bright cape]

no. just a thought

mine is c0

[limber light]

These stats good for him? And yes it’s his set and he has his weapon

[elder bluff]

get 65-70 cr and lower er

[limber light]

How much lower on ER?

And I still have to reroll his crown piece

[elder bluff]

120-130 er

[lyric cargo]

if you want feedback on that, send an enka card (that one actually shows artifacts, unlike ingame screenshots)

I think I might wait with rerolling or crafting, we're very early into the region and you're likely not done with farminng the domain yet?
Might get a good piece naturally, and then craft / reroll whatever your worst remaining one is

if it's like a potential 8 useful subs circlet, then sure reroll sounds fine

[hard garnet]

if i can get furina to 40k hp without an hp% goblet should i switch to a hydro dmg?

[sage sail]

if you have 40k hp, then u must not have a lot of crit, so go for whichever has more crit

or balances ur ratios. that's what i think at least

[crude dirge]

er

[hard garnet]

i mean when she uses her q (with hydro dmg%) she does go over 40k hp but normally it’s like 35k. i’m not rlly worried about crit cuz i have a fairly high amount of crit just that the build w the hydro dmg% has more er

[crude dirge]

just send both builds

[opal surge]

c2 furina goes hydro goblet

well not always but generally

[hard garnet]

oh didn’t know that thank you

[uncut herald]

I have 2 free slots. I was thinking of borrowing an Ineffa (is that good?) since someone said I should so who’s the last character I should add? MC? Level someone?
Preferably a geo/hydro since they’re the lowest but I don’t have great options.

Total:

• 8 hydro
• 13 electro
• 7 geo

(Yes Fischl will be level 80 soon. I just got her C6)

[lyric cargo]

I haven't done this theater yet, I'm waiting for like the 20th
so the transient resin from theater can be used on next stygian I think

[lyric cargo]

maybe this will help
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJ44xpXhIk

[tropic thistle]

Am so cooked

give tazer teams with ororon ples

[uncut herald]

Yep I always use that guy now ever since you sent me the first one

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

[lyric cargo]

Neuv, Furina, Ororon, Kazuha

is this stygian? are there chars you can't use for the team?

[tropic thistle]

This is abyss

There papillan idol on first half

https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-20834117

[cedar flint]

He was there last abyss too

and the abyss before that

[tropic thistle]

Bruh lmao

[cedar flint]

Took you long enough to build ororon

[tropic thistle]

!!!!!!!

I managaed to do it with Neuv, Furina, Fischl, Ororon, and Arle, Zhongli, Kazuha, and Bennett with 6:45

if my neuvillete can finish 8:30 I 3 star chamber 1

[cedar flint]

Good luck

[tropic thistle]

I'm just winging it until 6 star for now lol

Nod-Krai bosses so tanky

My Furina and Ororon Died

6 STARS LMAOO

I have no idea how to 3 star each chamber lmao

[lyric cargo]

healerless can be rough, yeah

when they put enemies that actually deal damage rather than just being big dmg sponges that serve as a dps check

Neuv can self-heal, but damage on other chars sticks

plus with Furina they'll be at 50% hp to begin with

[tropic thistle]

I have no idea how to do 2nd Chamber LMAOO

that Nod-Krai boss is like Baizhuwalled

[lyric cargo]

which one is it? the duck?

if so, you have to kill its ads to damage it

[tropic thistle]

Nah the moonfly

[cedar flint]

The moth

[tropic thistle]

My ororon died at the end of my fight with it causing me to play mono hydro almost at duck boss

I didn't realize lol

#BossMechanic

[lyric cargo]

if a char dies, you usually want to reset

once you move on with a dead char you can't go back without completely starting from the beginning

[tropic thistle]

I think my ororon died the moment I killed the boss lol

[opal surge]

Well the boss is first half so

[tropic thistle]

I didn't realize ororon died om

LMAOO

I GOT 3 STARS FIRST HALF FIXED MY NEUV ROTATION AND SWAPPED XINGQIU FOR ZHONGLI JUST TO GET THE CHAMBER 3 STARS ON FIRST CHAMBER

The moonfly is actually debuff ass it can kill your inactive party member lol

[tropic thistle]

I built YaoYao to 70 real quick lol

[limber light]

(Ignore the weapon and talents I’m working on them)

[unreal dock]

Yo does sodp chev work with arle? is it counted as overhealing since arle has bond of life?

If it does work with her would a arle, tenacity fischl, sodp chev and bennett be stronger team than a arle, xilonen, benett lanyan team?

[elder bluff]

yo did you check out my site

[lyric cargo]

not yet, sorry
I always forget when I'm at my laptop

I'll make a reminder

[tropic thistle]

I think 7 stars is going to be my limit lol

[opaque moat]

anyone who can help me with thenew coop achievements? SEA server

[crude dirge]

why not swap lanyan with xingqiu on second team

basically what i use

arle bennet kazuha yelan

[lyric cargo]

xq forces longer rotations I believe

[viral mulch]

kimiwa tomodachi

[vale isle]

what would yall recommend for a 1st BP weapon? Neuvi will get Tome

[uncut herald]

Can you QUIT a lunar challenge at any time and do a different act?

I don’t wanna start a lunar challenge only to realise I’ve cooked myself and cant leave* to* progress to act whatever!

[quaint fern]

Yeah

[little wolf]

Hey yall im kinda new to genshin started with the flins update just got a few questions like im f2p is that gonna be alright or not cus my friend told me it's hard with f2p

[little wolf]

Rn it seems fine but like my only 5 star not from the standard banner so far is flins

[nova swift]

what's your UID

[little wolf]

Can i send it to you in messages or not?

[nova swift]

Either way is fine

[little wolf]

Dm'd you

[little wolf]

Can anyone help me with teams i dont have many characters rn but if i do pull them someday could anyone help me decide which to pull and which to skip? Can be in here or in dms

[lyric cargo]

I'm f2p and it was doable for me, but I think it's tougher for new players now

I started playing in Sumeru, so I've had plenty of time to build my account before theater and stygian onslaught came out

if you want to get to a point where you can clear the new endgame content as f2p now..
the highest difficulty of theater requires 28 chars that fit the requirement to enter

that's a little less than 9 chars per element (I barely fulfill that)

if your focus isn't on those endgame modes, I don't think it'll be a problem

winning or losing your 50/50s can make a pretty big difference as f2p. I was pretty lucky in that regard

[restive hemlock]

how do I fix my genshin acc if I only have 30 fragile resin?

[bright cape]

only??
that's a lot

do it slowly. one step at a time

what characters do u have?

[nova swift]

If you're F2P how do you explain the welkin you have

[restive hemlock]

very random ones lol

[late pebble]

What team can make me do the highest mavuika dmg?

[bright cape]

this is already very good

focus on a dps and build a team around him/her

rn i am building team around flins
with aino, sucrose and kuki

might pull on ineffa and columbina if she helps

[lyric cargo]

what welkin? 🤔
did you just gift me one, or something like that?

[nova swift]

https://tenor.com/view/nailong-yellow-dragon-yellow-dino-pouting-gif-14907431710915501229

[lyric cargo]

oh wow, you actually did. thank you

[neon wave]

what a lad

f2p career in shambles

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1294733495343517826/928515871553495091.gif

[restive hemlock]

I want columbina soooo bad, I got flins just so she’d have a nod krai teammate

[bright cape]

rn. use aino.

hopefully columbina will replace her

[restive hemlock]

pray

[bright cape]

[rugged sparrow]

this abyss is disgusting sheesh

[restive hemlock]

do you think it’s worth making flins 90? or just focus on farming nodkrai mats and maybe furina?

[bright cape]

yes

he does transformative reaction

[bright cape]

show lineup

[restive hemlock]

wdym ?

[rugged sparrow]

bottom half is like Sigurd and that Nod-Krai EC boss and 2 Wild Hunt elites

[bright cape]

he does electrocharged n lunarcharged dmg which scale well with levels

[rugged sparrow]

he doesn't do EC

top half is 🦀

[bright cape]

holy powercreep this early into the region.

abyss used to be pretty chill upto x.4

for any region 😔

[restive hemlock]

ohhhh so his dmg would get better. Make sense, but if I make him a team, what support do I use? He’s very squishy

[bright cape]

kuki, sucrose, aino

[restive hemlock]

sigh

[bright cape]

if u have ineffa, it's awesome

[restive hemlock]

so build kuki basically

[bright cape]

but i didn't see

[restive hemlock]

nah no ineffa

[bright cape]

yah. kuki is good enough
mine heals for 3.5k per tick

[restive hemlock]

what a shame, I have like zero books rn

[nova swift]

Not as awesome as you

[restive hemlock]

and if I use resin on that then I have no resin for artifacts or bosses

[bright cape]

don't rush

u at least got 30 fragiles

i am tyring to build him with 0

i spent all mine to level 70/80 chars

[bright cape]

max flins shilling

[rugged sparrow]

it's so zzz to brute force

[opal surge]

direct lunarcharged is not transformative

[restive hemlock]

oh no I’ll be grateful

[opal surge]

its pretty much just a damage tag

[rugged sparrow]

heckin' love arbitrary dmg tags to shill chars

BAAAAT

oh also I got Vivian @opal surge

now her wengine...

[bright cape]

oh i see. then he doesn't benefit from 90 right?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean all chars do

some more than others

[opal surge]

he does, I would 90 every character I use personally

[opal surge]

big did u already get skin too

[bright cape]

oh ok. he is so squishy.
i wish i could level him to 100

[rugged sparrow]

no still like 70 pulls left

[opal surge]

or did u win 50/50 xdd

[rugged sparrow]

won 50/50, I don't have pulls left anyway

[opal surge]

I got koleda M2 today

[rugged sparrow]

pity 30 on wengine rn

[opal surge]

But sanby buffs made me gain +8k in DA

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[restive hemlock]

I just ran into someone in co-op with 96

[rugged sparrow]

remaining 70 pulls for Vivian skin can defo just go to Vivian wengine / Lucia / Fufu banner

Lucia/Fufu mostly for Manato

he's so

[hazy lotus]

are u pulling for banyue too

[rugged sparrow]

not really no

[hazy lotus]

oh wow

[rugged sparrow]

he's cool and precious but Manato is more precious

[hazy lotus]

i like his paws

big kitty

[rugged sparrow]

Banyue is basically just grandpa

[lyric cargo]

additional argument to do it with on-fielders, maybe

[rugged sparrow]

👴

[rugged sparrow]

ehhh

counterargument: Fischl

[lyric cargo]

yeah, she's very frail and aggravate scales off level as well

[bright cape]

that should not be possible

u go from 90 -> 95 -> 100

[rugged sparrow]

there's also Kuki and (god forbids) HB Raiden

[opal surge]

I just send lvl 90 on every character I use idk

[lyric cargo]

same, kinda

[restive hemlock]

hmmmm maybe 95. def noticed it was over 90

[bright cape]

i put bennett n xiangling on lvl 80/90 for a long time

[lyric cargo]

I wonder how much I'll use Neuv Furina Lauma Raiden HB

[rugged sparrow]

wheres Ineffa

[bright cape]

u got lauma?

[lyric cargo]

skipped for now

[bright cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDJzuk2zHds

[rugged sparrow]

not using the ultimate Neuv wheelchair team

[bright cape]

doesn't look that bad

[rugged sparrow]

"doesn't look that bad"

has 2 of the shilled chars

not really no

[bright cape]

is nahida better than alhaitham in that team?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[bright cape]

oh thanks. may be i can finally use him

my flins won't be built. i will try bruteforce

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I figured there were enough reasons for it

I figure whatever Columbina's kit, she'll want another nod-krai support
also my dendro count for theater is low
and she works ok with Neuv even if I don't end up getting another team for her

I was kinda hesitating because I already had c2 Nahida
so wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it would really be

[neon wave]

i regret not getting ineffa

[bright cape]

i just got her coz with multiwave, nahida has to reapply dendro.
and my alhaitham combo is usually not even half way

[neon wave]

but how was I supposed to know they'd make 17 LC bosses

[lyric cargo]

decent chance I'll get her on rerun
for now I just hope getting one early nod-krai char guarantees I won't be stranded on stygian

[neon wave]

I def will, I ended up getting flins
but yeah pulls look scarce for nod krai

[lyric cargo]

Fischl teams have actually let me clear those, at least in difficulty 5

[bright cape]

r u also f2p?

[neon wave]

nop

[opal surge]

same

[bright cape]

same. fischl and kazuha r goat

[neon wave]

I don't spend much but I have spent

[opal surge]

I want the clanker

[bright cape]

my luck has been so bad.

i go into deep pity everytime

[hazy lotus]

join the club pal

[neon wave]

I couldn't manage without flins sadge

[opal surge]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xJn4p0gc2Y_bzdm5PoV7c_kGkFV4QZcPtYBSfxJRSDk/https/i.redd.it/ohxne4viyyuf1.gif?width=1023&height=1006

[neon wave]

not that I tried too hard but
it didn't look super doable

[lyric cargo]

the Chasca trap:
every time they put out another off-field dps who might in theory work with Chasca

[bright cape]

like seriously. i used to see greens.
it's been ages.

[opal surge]

I pulled chasca cons instead of ineffa

which to be fair, lets me clear the ineffa shill bosses

but still

[rugged sparrow]

based

[neon wave]

wao
where is she at

[opal surge]

c2r2 now i got ultra cooked

[neon wave]

r2 om

[opal surge]

i spend like 300+ pulls for c0 and c1 combined

[hazy lotus]

4 5050s won in a row tho

[bright cape]

how r2?

[opal surge]

double

[bright cape]

oh lucky

[lyric cargo]

doing 10-pulls

[bright cape]

i would not have refined.

[opal surge]

why

[bright cape]

looks like a good bow

that others can use too

[opal surge]

it is a good bow

but

I dont really need it tbh

[bright cape]

i haven't refined any 5 stars.

still waiting for a good character that can use vortex vanquisher better than PJWS

[neon wave]

imagine owning polearms

[opal surge]

I own 2 brick polearms

[bright cape]

which ones?

[opal surge]

CMS and CQ

[rugged sparrow]

CMS and CQ probs

Sensi really typed VV

I was like "is there a Vortex Vanquisher I'm missing"

[lyric cargo]

(I missed a ping?)

[bright cape]

what is CMS?

[rugged sparrow]

ye hpycndly wrong pinged

[neon wave]

arle sig

[rugged sparrow]

Crimson Moon Semblance, Arle's sig

[opal surge]

I was just thinking about bricks and immediately went to vortex vanquisher

[bright cape]

oh that's a good one no?

[rugged sparrow]

valid

[rugged sparrow]

Mav > Arle therefore anything Arle related = bricked

[opal surge]

i dont play arle so its completely bricked

I also dont play mav as onfielder

[hazy lotus]

pretty meh passive for most characters

[opal surge]

I play hu tao when I need a pyro onfielder

[bright cape]

@lyric cargo i was watching ur navia build and wanted to ask u if u use her

[rugged sparrow]

so based...

[lyric cargo]

I heard you need 4 of them, to get the res shred
seems expensive

[bright cape]

in the middle i happen to ask sensi

[bright cape]

how so?

I have 1 of them

[lyric cargo]

4pc VV

[bright cape]

[lyric cargo]

actually not much, I tried using her on Lava Dragon Statue but ended up clearing with another team

[bright cape]

it's a very good build.

ur geo dps is set

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it's kind of a shame

I was considering to craft her another sands

[opal surge]

navia is pretty good into bronzelock

but I guess you had it solved otherwise

[lyric cargo]

yeah, Mav was the char I went deep on

c2 r1

not sure if further investment in Navia is recommendable, at this point
meta has moved on a bit since she came out

[bright cape]

also does ur xilonen do damage?

it's not on def def hb

[lyric cargo]

not really, I changed to the current build also for Lava Dragon Statue

trying to squeeze out a little more dmg since I didn't really need healing against it (I had Bennett)

her NA is leveled to 8 because I was messing around with Xianyun plunge Xilo
do not try at home

[opal surge]

@rugged sparrow how bad is 12-1-2

is it fine?

o wtf trooper has almost 5 mil hp in abyss

[rugged sparrow]

funnily 12-2-2 is worse

and idfk how it was possible

Trooper is w/e, Stygian is worse so there's that

[opal surge]

oh ye fearless trooper is 9,2 holy

the crab does almost have as much hp as it does in onslaught though

[rugged sparrow]

I just Lauma it

abyss line up so cringe I just run actual good teams

dont wanna deal with that bullshit on 3 AM

[opal surge]

Yoi will swiftly dispatch bottom half for me tomorrow

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

kinda crazy that 12-3 just has an onslaught boss on each side

thats not very creative

[rugged sparrow]

"we heard your feedback about Stygian Onslaught"

"now we're making Spiral 12-3 another Stygian Onslaught"

"later in November, Act 10 and Lunar 2 of Imaginarium Theatre will also be Stygian Onslaught"

"we'll also add Stygian Onslaught bosses in Miliastra Wonderland"

[opal surge]

cinema

[bright cape]

how can lauma activate all blooms at once?

[rugged sparrow]

wdym

[bright cape]

nahida's hold E and circling around the plants doesn't work

[rugged sparrow]

oh because Nahida E doesn't do bloom reaction, lol

Lauma hE does

[bright cape]

oh i see

[rugged sparrow]

you need to hit the thingies with bloom reaction

[bright cape]

lauma's is lunar bloom damage right?

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[bright cape]

i see now

is there a way to do it with nahida?

[rugged sparrow]

just bring normal hyperbloom team

[bright cape]

xingqiu is single target though

[rugged sparrow]

or Nilou/burgeon if you have

[bright cape]

oh ok

[rugged sparrow]

well apply hydro to each of them

[bright cape]

i want to try this abyss without any nod-krai

heck even any natlan

[rugged sparrow]

should be possible

I did Clorinde EC bottom half

top half u just hbloom / burg, that's Sumeru meta basically

[viral mulch]

so uh
lauma c6 procs cant break cineas shield

like it bricks her na so she cant use it to break shield

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

have to deliberately not burst

[viral mulch]

rats from the sky

[lyric cargo]

can't even see what the enemy lineup is because they die too quickly 😛

[rugged sparrow]

🐀 ☁️

[neon harness]

which one do i cope with

[opal surge]

Rerolll block atk angle

But if I had to pick I'd pick left I think

[wanton iris]

should i level up flins supports to level 90?(aino, sucrose, dori)

[bright cape]

are people overrating sucrose too much for flins team?

instead of going sucrose, flins, aino, kuki
how about going jean, flins, aino, fischl?

[cedar flint]

you lose on sucrose em buff + ttds buff for a dps increase of one of the electro units since you swapped kuki with fish

You also probably lose tenacity if fish doesn’t hold it

[bright cape]

i see. i guess tenacity kuki is the best option for now for me

[cedar flint]

Idk if it’s the best I just said what you potentially lose

[opal surge]

You would never go jean

You would go lanyan

The sucrose variant is slightly better damage wise but if you prefer shielding instead of healing you can swap to lanyan

[forest venture]

anemo test 6308

[fast rock]

Is it worth crowning Lauma burst?

[cedar flint]

yes it shreds dendro and hydro no?

or does it just up the base bloom reaction dmg either way I think it’s worth it

[fast rock]

Pretty sure it's skill

[cedar flint]

both are crown worthy imo

[fast rock]

Alright

[cedar flint]

since both buff

[vale isle]

bump..

[crude dirge]

why are there 3 amos es

[native heron]

I wanna ask for help so bad but I think people are not willing to do it for free 😭

[modest latch]

the official genshin server has helpers for free lol

[native heron]

The thing is that I'm permanently banned from that server for saying something that I don't even know is bad

[modest latch]

WHAT ?? really? can't you appeal?

[native heron]

It's been years it's in like 3.0? 3.0 is the patch for Fontaine right?

[sick quarry]

Sumeru

Fontaine is a year later : )

[native heron]

Oh well they banned me during the Fontaine arc and Wriothesley was just released back then

[sick quarry]

Crazy

[sick quarry]

Ask away

[native heron]

And I still can't understand why they banned me even though someone said it first and I just asked what it means cause many people reacted to it

[native heron]

Its too much 😭

[sick quarry]

I doubt. 😭

Delete this....

[native heron]

See

Is it illegal

[sick quarry]

Let me DM u. ^^

[native heron]

Kk

[neon wave]

[modest latch]

@sick quarry what did they even say that was so bad

[cedar flint]

who knows

[modest latch]

ikr weird

[neon wave]

sad day for nosy people

[opal surge]

Bro took 20 messages to ask for account piloting probably

What the helly

I wonder why they're banned from official

[forest venture]

must be trying to grind during midterm week

[forest venture]

if i had something to do and events were ending i'd gave it up completely and find a j*b

[analog veldt]

Heyy, i’m looking for a team to achieve the carnage event in menacing&extreme difficulty

[forest venture]

show characters

or the creator will refine you

[analog veldt]

😰😰

Gimme a sec

I stopped playing for like 2years, my characters aren’t very meta anymore

[forest venture]

yea arle and neuvi are still in the meta

[analog veldt]

Currently building them

[forest venture]

ok what is that carnage event

[forest venture]

what about the 4-stars tho

[opal surge]

Onslaught I assume

[analog veldt]

Not meta sadly

I haven’t a single good 4* from fontain/natlan

But it’s ok i’m gonna clear it alone dw

[rugged sparrow]

???

[forest venture]

you can still use the og 4*s, they're still strong

[forest venture]

you can't coop above menacing

[crude dirge]

best freminet team i can make?
likely to get furina next patch also

[lyric cargo]

this is why I set all my games and devices to english
makes it kinda hard to talk about it online if the difficulties are renamed
(fearless is "extreme" here it seems)

[lyric cargo]

it's called stygian onslaught in english

[crude dirge]

and stygian onslaught is mrachniy natisk (dark onslaught from google translator) for me 😔

never using russian again

wait why it scary = dark

[analog veldt]

Good to know

[analog veldt]

I read that you can but only from the same world

[lyric cargo]

yeah, you can't "match"

[analog veldt]

Yup sadly

What’s a good ratio for arclec cr/cd ?

[lyric cargo]

good ratio is always 1 : 2, so crit rate half of crit dmg
100% CR if CD is above 200%

just make sure to include all the buffs from artifact sets, talents, etc

[analog veldt]

Is 100% cr really necessary ?

[lyric cargo]

it's just the best average damage

[analog veldt]

She doesn’t have a circlet rn so I should’ve give her cr mainstat circlet ?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[analog veldt]

Okok ty

[lyric cargo]

the closer you get to that 1 : 2 ratio, the better

all else being equal

[analog veldt]

I know but 168% seems low

[lyric cargo]

your main goals are basically
(1) have as many useful total substats as possible
(2) balance your crit ratio

[rugged sparrow]

you're concerned about 168 cdmg being low but having no crit rate to utilize the cdmg you have rn

[lyric cargo]

it's maybe a bit low but CR is even lower yeah

if you got an enka card, we can see artifacts / weapon / talents / etc

[analog veldt]

If u were paying attention, you'd know that I haven't gave her a cr circlet rn.

[lyric cargo]

shows a bit more than ingame screenshots

[analog veldt]

Ok I’ll do that

[rugged sparrow]

yes but your comment on "168% seems low" imply you're actually considering cdmg circlet

[analog veldt]

Go mind ur own business elswere pls

[rugged sparrow]

[crude dirge]

39 crit rate with a free crit rate weapon 😔

[analog veldt]

Jade spear only gave 22% 😔

[crude dirge]

so u got only 12 cr from substats

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233817187796779008/1419489531748548669/convert.gif

[analog veldt]

Yh i need to farm

[crude dirge]

how do u farm gladiator

just strongbox it

[analog veldt]

I gave her harmonic

Oh yeah I totally forgot about these

[crude dirge]

better just use glad if it has better stats

[analog veldt]

It didn’t 💀

[lyric cargo]

not sure I'd settle for glad when strongbox is available

[crude dirge]

surely they have better glad pieces at this point right

[lyric cargo]

but leveling them when they can leave them at +0 and strongbox her sig set

[slow seal]

would an hp sands be better for c1 yelan? (4pc emblem & elegy)

[opal surge]

If she can still burst every rotation then sure

[crude dirge]

mine has 240 er with hp sands

[slow seal]

ok tanks

[jagged copper]

Does aino's em affect flins dmg?

[crude dirge]

i think em increases lunar charged damage (like it does to normal reactions)

[jagged copper]

So em on aino is more important than er??

[crude dirge]

why would it be

majority of flins dmg is just burst and aino buffs it (and gives em)

her stats dont matter that much u can just give her the most random pieces from the new em sharing set

[opal surge]

ER is always the most important stat in the game until your character has enough to burst as often as you need them to

[tender spoke]

Hey guys, these are my friends characters, could you help me with what characters should she use? Two teams

[dapper pawn]

i don’t know what teams to run for floor 12, can someone help

[lyric cargo]

afaik it's only her personal dmg

as for the lunar-charged, it's kinda accurate to say that only the two contributors who would deal the highest damage with it contribute

maybe Aino is among them, if she builds for EM and crit (and is lvl90?)

[bright cape]

thanks

[lyric cargo]

I kinda suspect she'll only be a temporary member to the team, though. I wouldn't overcomplicate her build

so lvl70 and enough ER to burst

[analog veldt]

Better ?

[lyric cargo]

looks better, but an Enka card would be best
https://enka.network/

[analog veldt]

Thankss way better indeed

[crude dirge]

is akasha worse than enka

[cedar flint]

no but it’s just the default tho I prefer how enka cards look personally

[lyric cargo]

akasha is based on enka, gotta use the same steps as well (setting profile up public)

either is fine, there are some small differences like akasha calculating and displaying total roll value for each artifact

while enka doesn't display the total, but you can enable an option to visualize rolls

[bright cape]

i was able to use my pre-natlan unit again

[rugged sparrow]

now use pre-Fontaine

[lyric cargo]

I tried Mav first side at first, and actually failed
didn't expect the crab to immediately go up like it does in Stygian

[strange scarab]

[lyric cargo]

re-entered and finished with:
Neuv Furina Lauma Raiden
Mav Xilo Ben Cit

also my Lauma isn't really built, she's got lvl4 + lvl5 talents and a lvl70 weapon 😅

[bright cape]

i only started mid-sumeru. so lacking investement for teams there

[native heron]

Does genshin banner also work like hsr banner? Yk like, release a character then next next patch later it'll get it's rerun

[lyric cargo]

not the next patch, it's usually somewhere within the same region unless the char is released towards the end

[native heron]

Oh so it's not like hsr cause I really want Flins sig but I have to focus on my studies right now and his banner is about to end

[lyric cargo]

this page shows the rerun history, if you want to get an impression
https://paimon.moe/banners
it doesn't distinguish between first / second half anymore, sadly

[native heron]

It's fine and ty

[little wolf]

Hey can i ask if a semi experienced player atleast can message me maybe? I have quite a few questions about stuff like future team builds and character pulls and some other questions

[strange scarab]

#📌gimshim-help

[cedar flint]

ask away I’m sure someone will answer just don’t talk about anything unofficial or leaks related

[little wolf]

Alr it might be dumb questions though haha

Are teams needed? cus i dont have many non standard characters only flins and aino which are the main two i use and then all the free (except collei) characters plus jean,tighnari and mona so should i have a team rn or just use whatever?

[bright cape]

i was thinking about it. what would be a good pre-fontaine team for 2nd half?

xingqiu is already taken by hyperbloom

[little wolf]

I have a few characters i want to pull but semi f2p except for this one awesome player who gifted me welkin
The characters:
Mavuika
Arlechino
Wriothesly
Furina
Neuvilette
Raiden shogun
Xioa
Kinich
Questions:
Are these good choices? Should i try for others?

[bright cape]

u have tons of dps

build some good supports and u r good

[bright cape]

yah. u need team synergy

[rugged sparrow]

cry, I guess

[little wolf]

Which ones are good supports? Idrk who does what

[bright cape]

choose a dps

[rugged sparrow]

probs just play Hu Tao vapeload, and pretend u have Nilou for 1st half

[lyric cargo]

a screenshot of your char pool is generous easier to parse

(list is quite short in this case, so many it's enough)

[bright cape]

it's fine. i was able to use my 2 overinvested teams to clear

[rugged sparrow]

when in doubt just brute force

[bright cape]

it happened after a long time

[little wolf]

The ones that seem the coolest rn are mauvika wriothesly and neuvilette (flins is also great) which dps would be the best

[bright cape]

neuvillette is the easiest to use

since u have furina, u can use any two buffers/off-fielders

i used kazuha + fischl this time

[little wolf]

Alr cool thx i dont have furina yet i want her though i saw she is coming in next patch should i pull for her or wait for someone else?

[bright cape]

u listed above furina too

[little wolf]

I meant characters i wanted to pull sry 😭 i had bad wording there

[bright cape]

who do you have rn?

[little wolf]

The only non standard banner 5 star i have is flins i just meant for the future

Or am i just yapping for no reason rn lol

[rugged sparrow]

I mean amongst the 5-stars you listed, you can just pull all of them and won't have any overlapping units on each of their team

generally just pull whoever you like best and build a team around them

[bright cape]

oh i see

@little wolf flins, aino, jean and fischl make a good team

[little wolf]

Alr thx but who are good supports/buffers i dont really know who does what

[bright cape]

what electro options do u have?

[rugged sparrow]

it depends on the team ofc

but you can't go wrong with Furina, Citlali, Xilonen (for 5-star options)

honorable mention to Kazuha

[little wolf]

Dont have fischl and electo options are the traveler,beidou,lisa and kujou sara

[bright cape]

i heard electro traveller is decent for flins

it might work out for you.

u look like early account

[rugged sparrow]

it's kinda cope but ig EMC is the better out of all options there

[bright cape]

flins, aino, jean and electro traveller

[little wolf]

Alr thank you like i said semi f2p apart from the welkin so should i pull for furina if she comes next patch or wait first?

[little wolf]

Alr thank you

[rugged sparrow]

wtf is semi f2p
and I'd pull Furina unless there's other unit that you want more than her

[bright cape]

actually if u really want to complete flins, u can go with ineffa.

they are like made for each other

like mavuika-citlali, neuvi-furina, skirk-escoffier

[little wolf]

😂 just meant i dont actually buy anything so f2p ig the only things i got is welkin that this cool player gifted

[little wolf]

Ooh alr thx

[rugged sparrow]

then you're still f2p as far as title is concerned but w/e

[little wolf]

Oh alr thx 🙃

[rugged sparrow]

just this

if you want to pull Neuv, absolutely get Furina

and so on

[little wolf]

Oh alr thx this game is fun but after all ive played i still feel like i have no clue whats going on 😂

[bright cape]

where do u guys get welkin?

i have only got twice n both were from hoyolab raffle

[little wolf]

Someone dm'd me and gifted it was real nice 😄 my friend made me so scared of the community lol but yall seem nice

[bright cape]

only twitter is a bit weird.

majority of fanbase is pretty chill

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1307177861894897817/1083056043526979714.gif

[little wolf]

Nice! Three questions left sry

1. Columbina she seems cool will she come out? Should i save for her or not?
2. Where can i get good weapons cus flins rn uses a 3 star
3. Where do i get good artifacts

[rugged sparrow]

1. No info
2. Nod-Krai craftable polearm
3. artifact domains, you shouldn't worry about it until you hit AR45

[little wolf]

Oh alr thx for all the help and dang hope she comes out haha she looks cool

[rugged sparrow]

everyone hopes so

[quaint fern]

Capitano mains rolling

[rugged sparrow]

Signora mains: "first time?"

[bright cape]

they should roll together with signora mains

[dapper heron]

hey guys, which characters are gonna be on the next update?

[little wolf]

Im not sure all my friend just told me furina

[rugged sparrow]

Nefer Furina 1st half
Zhongli Arle 2nd half

[dapper heron]

wew nice

couldnt get flins yet

lost pity. out of primos

[little wolf]

What is so special about furina i heard she's really good so i was curious

[bright cape]

damn. then i am gonna be hyper saving next patch

[rugged sparrow]

1. enables an artifact set (Marechaussee Hunter) which is considered pretty strong for majority of DPSes
2. a hydro enabler (to an extent), which is good for a lot of teams
3. dmg% amplifier. dmg% is good for a lot of team archetypes

[dapper heron]

same here, really like the way nefer looks 😏 . and i been wanting arlechino for the long time

[little wolf]

Oh yeah that sounds sick

[bright cape]

also she does decent amount of damage herself for being off-fielder

[rugged sparrow]

she was de facto best support before Natlan + Nod-Krai came and hoyo trying to divert teams from her

[little wolf]

Ooh

[dapper heron]

😏

[rugged sparrow]

like Flins for example doesn't utilize dmg% because of his unique dmg tag

[little wolf]

Oh dang alr this game has so many cool characters and weapons that i want but i heard later if f2p it's really hard to get anything is that true

[rugged sparrow]

"f2p" is such a vague and loose term

what would you consider f2p

[dapper heron]

your new to the game?

[rugged sparrow]

a friend of mine has c6 Furina but he's never spent a single cent on the game

he's by definition is still f2p

[little wolf]

Not spending money ig

[dapper heron]

[rugged sparrow]

and he can clear dire stygian difficulty consistently

[bright cape]

by that definition i am also f2p

[bright cape]

who?

[rugged sparrow]

@wet plank

[little wolf]

I only really started playing when flins came out downloaded the patch before but didnt play much cus i had to go somewhere

[rugged sparrow]

[dapper heron]

aah. oh well enjoy the game 😄

[rugged sparrow]

in any case he has like c2 Mua c6 Furina idr who else

[little wolf]

Thank you! 😄

[bright cape]

might be day 1 player then

[rugged sparrow]

he is, but doesn't change the fact that u can do the same eventually as f2p

that's why the term kinda holds no bearing other than as bragging right

[little wolf]

Oh nice so i can still enjoy it thank you 😄

[little wolf]

Ooh ok ill stop using it then haha

[rugged sparrow]

basically if you vertically invest into good units, you can still clear endgame properly
without welkin/BP it's gonna take a while but

[dapper heron]

you dont actually need multiple constellations to enjoy the game. i think just build the chars u have to the best, save until u want to pull for the chars you want and get good with team rotations and stuff.

[little wolf]

There are so many cool characters haha i want them all lol but thx again for the advice

[bright cape]

i did the same before stygian

[rugged sparrow]

well gonna take a while considering you just started

[bright cape]

despite being 3.5 player

[lyric cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1419389715735384277/grafik.png?ex=68f1e1ef&is=68f0906f&hm=f3be0affa68cf0108468a2b33ff38c2abe5ab70c26b003e6f39c2bf1478d7288&

[bright cape]

hoyo eventually gives out every 4 star for free right?

has there been a 4 star which they have missed?

[quaint fern]

Roll with her urn??

[rugged sparrow]

none of Inazuma 4-star has been given out for free iirc

but yeah that answers your initial question too

[bright cape]

holy carap. yah. u r right

[dapper heron]

youll learn a lot from here too. this community is really helpful. ive been playing for like 4 years maybe ( with a lot of breaks lol) and i still dont know most of the stuff about the game. other than to just play and stuff. any build realated questions, etc i get help from here.

[lyric cargo]

these are the chars from the initial Nod-Krai trailer. I think it's a fair assumption that all of them will come out during the region though some might not. as for what they do, we can only guess based on vibes. I'd save just in case, but it's also not a loss if you have to wait for a rerun

[bright cape]

may be it's post inazuma thing

i am waiting for my iansan copy. pls hoyo

[dapper heron]

wait what

[rugged sparrow]

Chevreuse wasn't free

and hasn't been iirc

Kaveh is also not free

[bright cape]

they even broke the tradition. 2 weapons back to back

[rugged sparrow]

it's not really a tradition

1.6 and 2.0 was like that too iirc

it's kinda self-contained within its own major version

[bright cape]

damn that fish claymore was made for beidou

[little wolf]

Nice!

[bright cape]

i don't have it

[rugged sparrow]

now that u mention it I havent updated my personal list of genshin free stuff since 5.8

Flameforged Insight and Etherlight

[bright cape]

etherlight is awesome

[little wolf]

Haha thank you so much

[bright cape]

i think genshin is the only gacha where they release 4 star characters and weapon that are somewhat usable

and good after getting copies

[little wolf]

Rn i have 17 fates and 4.1k primogems since i didnt spend it after getting flins should i try for furina or not yet?

[rugged sparrow]

eh no

Genshin has its own garbage event stuff

[bright cape]

i meant occassionally

i play wuwa. n it's been over a year that they have good 4 star weapon or character

the ones that are good can be counted within fingers

now i realize all those good ones were launch stuff

i heard hsr is similar. dunno how it's for zzz

[rugged sparrow]

ZZZ free event wengines (weapons) are unusable

I dont play HSR for long but 1.x stuff was good

[rugged sparrow]

out of all 3 free event wengine we got so far only 1 that's actually pretty ok ig

[little wolf]

Does genshin do anything for halloween

[rugged sparrow]

no, only CNY

[little wolf]

Dang

[bright cape]

just u wait until ZZZ's fontaine.
that unusable weapon will be best in-slot for ZZZ furina

i am honestly intrigued who used festering desire before furina

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?
Furina's synergy with Flins isn't that good, but if your goal is to eventually clear Stygian difficulty 5 you'll need 3 teams

currently Furina is usually one of the three. might change, but it'll be a while

[bright cape]

all these years they didn't do anything.
but the new milastra wonderland costume has halloween vibes.

also the surrounding is spooky

[little wolf]

No i dont sry but the only non standard 5 star i have is flins(rn i use flins aino jean and elect traveller) i want a lot more though haha

[little wolf]

Ooh alr but those skins look cool atleast 😄

[lyric cargo]

got Sucrose, Fischl, Kuki, or Lan Yan?

[lyric cargo]

give us traveler costumes, I get annoyed every time I have to play with the default Lumine dress

[little wolf]

Nope sadly not should i list who i have?

[lyric cargo]

maybe just ping me with a screenshot when you're in-game and can take one

there's also an official website for it, if you want to open your char pool in browser instead

[little wolf]

I can take a photo ig should i send you it in message?

[lyric cargo]

it's https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I'd find a way to take screenshots as photos might reveal stuff you don't mean to

[rugged sparrow]

nah they're so bad

[fast rock]

How ass is furina sig

As a stat stick on other characters?

[rugged sparrow]

don't

[fast rock]

I'm planning to get Nefer sig,I might fail so

And also what's the hard pity of weapon banner

[rugged sparrow]

hard pity for weap is 80

soft pity starts around 63

[lyric cargo]

I'd say wait until we have good reliable calcs and see how her r1 compares to her c1 and c2

it's sometimes the case that they are very similar upgrades, in which case I'd maybe pull cons over weapons and get the weapon on a rerun when there might be a better banner

that said, I feel like good weapon banners are rare

[fast rock]

I just don't want cons, weapons give me better roster ig
Also the drip

[opal surge]

holy fuck this 12-2-2 is something else

I think i literally cant clear it with yoi even if I had the full 3 minutes for that half alone

[fast rock]

2x dps req for non nod krai

[lyric cargo]

it's actually 77 it seems, based on what the formula seems to be

5★ chance increases by 10x the base chance with every pull past soft pity, which would put it at 100% at pull 77

[opal surge]

if only it was 2x

that would be trivial

[rugged sparrow]

I heard each wild hunt elite is more HP than Sigurd?

so basically 2 Sigurds

[opal surge]

yeah

[fast rock]

400k I think

[rugged sparrow]

what's 400k

[fast rock]

What

[rugged sparrow]

what

[fast rock]

I mean more

[opal surge]

its 2M*(2M*1,1(with 35% dr))+(remaining red health* hp)

its nowhere close to being 2x

[rugged sparrow]

[fast rock]

So how ass is furina sig

[rugged sparrow]

as far as 5-star options go it's amongst the worst

for DPSes

probs still better than some 3-star / 4-star options but

[fast rock]

I see, passive is completely dead if I don't have furina

[lyric cargo]

at the very least if you don't have the pulls to go to soft pity twice, I wouldn't pull on weapon banner
since the guarantee is lost at end of banner

[fast rock]

Better than final of the deep on ayato?

Or enshu

[opal surge]

No

Im not aware of a single character where it beats the best 4* option

by more than at most 1%

for most it just loses

[rugged sparrow]

doomed

[fast rock]

is Zhongli sig better loss than her sig?

[rugged sparrow]

the only good thing about Furina's sig is it drips is unmatched on Furina 😎

[rugged sparrow]

both are equally horrible