📌gimshim-help

[crimson plover]

ther'es a skirk mastersheet somewhere that shows the calcs

i just use finale because i overcap with mh

[rugged sparrow]

what Itto team anyway

lemme guess, no Chiori

[fiery wigeon]

I have skirk on my alt with her signature but no escoffier she can do abyss sometimes

[crimson plover]

i meqn if u use chiori it's basically a chiori team

[rugged sparrow]

so true

[fiery wigeon]

Chiori, itto, Gouro, zhongs massive dong

[crimson plover]

u probably shld have done skirk with no sig but 1 ice covfefe

[opal surge]

why would that not clear bottom half of this abyss

[fiery wigeon]

Typically its Gourou click buttons, zhong shilwd chiori burst e e then ittos baby and then ult

[viral mulch]

most stuff can clear bot half
issue is top

[opal surge]

yeah i mean that itto cant clear into double EC shill boss is obvious

but bottom half has no restrictions

[fiery wigeon]

Nah my issue is i only pull for characters i like and been doing that since about 1.2 so I have to share like 3 good artifacts sets throughout 8 teams

[viral mulch]

they keep the trend of recent abyss designs

first half coughing baby second half hydrogen bomb

[strange scarab]

[viral mulch]

this time in vice versa

[rugged sparrow]

DPS Xianyun 🗣️ 🔥

[fiery wigeon]

And this game doesnt like when you do that, you must pull the shill or die or just use the 4 star national because you have to begrudgingly 😒

[rugged sparrow]

Lauma feels so garbage with talent level 1 though holy shit

0 impact

[viral mulch]

atp i should only do bot half solo cus doesnt make a difference anyway like top half is always varesa

[fiery wigeon]

I really do hate boss mechanics in this game and having the result to teh national team 2 most obnoxious and boring things to do

[opal surge]

literally noone plays national anymore

its 3 years past the teams death

[viral mulch]

use it against overseer

[fiery wigeon]

Because other games boss mechanics are awooga booga press t button awesome cutscene do some dodging and you get to do damage but ts is like have electro charged or suffer like heck nah moment i see that I jjst dont bother clearing abyss

[viral mulch]

skips any boss that doesnt allow national
"man why does bosses all resort to national"

[fiery wigeon]

I am not doing some bs for half an hour for 50 primos, you can keep them ✋️✋️

[fiery wigeon]

Woah woah woah not what I'm saying

[opal surge]

national nowadays is used as an example for "literally any team will clear this"

because national variants, especially sucrose nat etc

are about as low dps as it gets

raiden national does like half the damage of any modern dps

[rugged sparrow]

it's ok OPPA still carries

[viral mulch]

can rational even do this first half

[rugged sparrow]

probably?

[viral mulch]

ig maybe if u have a brain

[rugged sparrow]

I can try but my Raiden is c2 so it'll probably get invalidated

[viral mulch]

actually idk

[opal surge]

https://youtu.be/rRwoq6F08pU?si=1HYaxQHsloKZ2pMP

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh I did nation with Xiangling xingqui, ororon, Bennett and cleared first half

[opal surge]

this clears top half so I imagine raiden nat will too

[rugged sparrow]

yeah dhcwsp also posted 3-men top abyss

Suc Xq Fischl (And 4-star weaps too)

[viral mulch]

youd need to be sentient to get around moonfly as a baseline but if u can do that then u prob also have enough investment on your chars to get the dmg check through

[rugged sparrow]

the bar is pretty low, it's just annoying gimmick check

[opal surge]

EC is one of the more forgiving gimmicks

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah thr boss mechanics in thsi game are butt cheeks

[viral mulch]

and i dont think most ppl are gonna be able to pass chamber 2

[opal surge]

at least u can sneak EC into vape and other teams

[rugged sparrow]

any gimmick check = annoying to me

cant play my braindead teams

lemme try Raiden nat and Itto ig

[opal surge]

i dont really care I just wish theyd stop putting wave into gimmick boss into 12-1-1 so I can test stuff properly

[rugged sparrow]

but my Itto is also c2

not that Itto c1 or c2 increase his DPS by a lot

[opal surge]

just give me fat fuck 12-1-1 or something

[viral mulch]

the amount of ppl i saw this cycle that just gave up after dying 100 times on moonfly or got it through with shitass time to the point not even their mavu premium second half (which they play wrong obv) can save their ass

[fiery wigeon]

I play the game for thr music and cinematics and the dopamine of damage per screen shots not some bs like "Oh you needa cripple your team because we wanna try our bumm ahh boss gimmick"

[opal surge]

im batchesting

[viral mulch]

ngl while i also fuckin hate recent enemy designs i still find it hilarious to see a very common sight of "i play for story" or something as an excuse of their skill issue as if that removes their skill issue

[rugged sparrow]

surely this clears

[opal surge]

probably does

[viral mulch]

trust

[elder bluff]

where is xilonen

[viral mulch]

tbh if i cardstack hard enough maybe like wrio solo first half is possible

[fiery wigeon]

I mean tbh I did all thr holo bosses on wuwa with a f2p changli team which requires allota dodging which is rate limited btw and timing to counter dodge which is more skill then just "your math is why you have no skill"

[viral mulch]

bro brought wuwa in

[strange scarab]

ainoway

[viral mulch]

guys i can clear silksong without dying so that surely proves im skilled in genshin impacts teambuilding right

thanks bro

i knew i was skilled gamer

[fiery wigeon]

Thays not what I said at all

[viral mulch]

it kinda is

[rugged sparrow]

ok there's a problem with Moonfly

Bennett heals is kinda awkward cuz if I got stuck on 90% heal for XL and Xq

[fiery wigeon]

Genshins tram building is simple but not fun at all, the entire skill bar is hoping you get a 5 roll after half a year of farming for a character that probably won't clear in a year and I'm getting told thats skill

[rugged sparrow]

[elder bluff]

you can dodge its debuff

[viral mulch]

yea u have to manuever out of the gimmick lol

[fiery wigeon]

The games new middle floor requires skill, the diff VI holos require skill this isnt a skill test its a math test its like being in high-school

[strange scarab]

Brah what

🗿

[viral mulch]

ofc its simple when your teambuilding logic is just "use national and if national doesnt work i dont play at all"

u just proving ur skill issue

[rugged sparrow]

barely cleared 2nd half (Moonfly took nearly 2 mins)

[fiery wigeon]

Thats not what I said bro

[viral mulch]

did u just bruteforce with 0 cr

[fiery wigeon]

You are kver simplifying what i said

[rugged sparrow]

Raiden got full healed

[viral mulch]

wait actually xiangling snapshot before the cr debuff

[fiery wigeon]

I said I dont want to have to deal with gimmicks and for my second half I will use national if nothing else works, some how thats what you got from it

[viral mulch]

nah thats exactly what u said while excusing using wuwa dodge

[fiery wigeon]

Huh

[viral mulch]

unless you mainly do solo challenges and shi then dodging isnt even the main focus of skills that help the most in genshin
u just have to know baseline stuff and be sentient

[fair urchin]

Chasca team in second half gets swatted by hydro tulpa

First half is breeze with neuv

[fiery wigeon]

Well in genshin itd math and follow funny yt guide on how to rotate tour team which is ok I just dont see the end game as enjoyable at all but I do love hoyomix and the cinematics

[fair urchin]

But can't clear second half any tips?

[elder bluff]

chasca is not for any half. play another dps

[rugged sparrow]

@viral mulch why is anemo kenki backstepping to the corner of the map bro

[viral mulch]

u can kinda clip with its hitbox and climb up and get even higher position with chasca
also if u spin iirc left while point blank then she can dodge every hit from tulpa

idr if its left or right

[opal surge]

you can literally just not be in melee

[viral mulch]

bro hates u

[opal surge]

its impossible to get hit if ur not in melee idk

[viral mulch]

i actually dont know what chasca team they using so

if its smth with like citlali or whatever else that hits in melee range then u have to

[fiery wigeon]

Isnt optimal chasca just furina, ororon Bennett?

[fair urchin]

I need to be close for using Bennet

[viral mulch]

furina citlali bennett

[elder bluff]

just don't use chasca for 2nd half.
she is not good against multiple enemies

[fair urchin]

Chasca Bennet xiangling iansan

[fiery wigeon]

Ah right

Oh lord have mercy

[elder bluff]

and triple kenki are... 3

[opal surge]

its actually mav iansan citlali

but yeah

[viral mulch]

yea just like stay point blank and spin around cus u have to for iansan anyway

[fiery wigeon]

Well tbh I wouldn't wanna drop mavuika on a chasca team unless the task required only 1 team

[viral mulch]

i forgor mavu somehow

[rugged sparrow]

yeah Kenki RNG is a bitch

[opal surge]

if ur using citlali for the chasca team you may as well use mav

mav without citlali is not better than chasca with citlali mav

(in single target smile)

[viral mulch]

using chasca in aoe

[opal surge]

with cons it feels fine

[viral mulch]

with enough whalin

[fiery wigeon]

Chasca one of thrm characters that need strong team to actually be worth the investment like f2p options just arent worth it allota the time it seems

[opal surge]

thats every character

did you know, making teams is actually important

[thorn bay]

Can any one help me clear Stygian onslaught 4 (Asia)

[opal surge]

loading screen tip !

[fair urchin]

I don't have any other teams navia is also single target. Got lauma maybe her team might help

[fiery wigeon]

Stygian

Oh man yeah nah ,its a game mode alright

[thorn bay]

It’s still good but not as good as some good supports

[elder bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaic0noL2CE

[fiery wigeon]

Chlorinde can clear something at c0? The f

[opal surge]

clorinde has cleared first two dire onslaughts at c0 (and might clear this one too)

shes the highest dps character from fontaine

[viral mulch]

@opal surge do u know how to stall duck boss shielding by just a bit
ppl say its rng but i feel like it cant be when comparing samples

[thorn bay]

I thought neu or arle

[opal surge]

ive honestly only fought the duck one singular time in abyss

Are u trying to kill pre shield?

[viral mulch]

yea

others said its just rng and they get it like once every 20 resets but i got it like 3 times total in 500 resets

[opal surge]

maybe device dependant again

[crude dirge]

i think they req better stuff or have burst dmg instead of dps

[viral mulch]

do i have to briefly cut my internet or some shit

[opal surge]

[viral mulch]

do i ping dhc for this

[opal surge]

ye just do it

[fair urchin]

Somehow brute forced chasca to 12-2-3 the three guys obilerated me

[thorn bay]

Isn’t neuvilletes most dmg come from ca

[crude dirge]

a lot in small amount

[fiery wigeon]

Yoo 50k on xiangling is diabolical , his one must be cracked

[thorn bay]

Mine doing 2k cuz of 30cr

[opal surge]

nah clorinde is just good (read: clorinde can use mavuika, neuv and arle cant)

[lyric cargo]

hmm, isn't she super mobile and can dodge basically anything?

[fiery wigeon]

Mines on vape is doing 41k a time

[thorn bay]

Yes almost anything

[crude dirge]

escoffier national

[lyric cargo]

but yeah, Bennett against Tulpa is a liability. you might need multiple tries with Bennett teams

[neon harness]

damn maybe it’s finally time for me to fix my clorinde

[opal surge]

whats ur ping?

[fair urchin]

i basically use benne burst on or near tulpa

[thorn bay]

Bad ping bad chlorine??

Well chlorine would never work on me then

[opal surge]

yeah clorinde vertical is investing into your geolocation

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh with tulpa just wait for that 4 way aoe to finnish thrn its Bennett time

[thorn bay]

You can get on top of the tulpa

It can’t hit you

[neon harness]

😭 how ping dependent is she

My WiFi is questionable at best

[elder bluff]

green is enough

[fiery wigeon]

Wait characters have ping dependency wtf

[thorn bay]

Mine be averaging around 200-300 ping

[neon harness]

tried abyss f12, kept reloading at the 2 min mark fml

[thorn bay]

Very playable

[neon harness]

[opal surge]

very

[neon harness]

Nvm ig she’ll stay benched 😭

[opal surge]

shes also fps dependent so if you have an ipad youll also do more damage

[fiery wigeon]

Alright imma go to work , bye stranger's

[opal surge]

smile

[thorn bay]

Bye

I’m such a stranger

[fair urchin]

is double dendro better than double hydro on hyperbloom lauma?

[thorn bay]

Dendro

Wait o

No

Hydro

[neon harness]

I do indeed, it burns up rly fast tho, thoughts on max fps but rly shit graphics

[strange scarab]

double dendro is not necessary on hb

[neon harness]

Time to find a friend with good WiFi

😰

[viral mulch]

fuck

[neon wave]

booo

[thorn bay]

You still hav so much time compared to me

[rugged sparrow]

fucking Kenki RNG taking me 5+ retries @viral mulch

[viral mulch]

dead run

[thorn bay]

Well ya

[viral mulch]

this is why i dont speedrun

[thorn bay]

Look at my tag

[viral mulch]

wat

[neon harness]

[fair urchin]

the last slot is flex so i want to know the best option there
lauma kuki xq ( )

[thorn bay]

Eh whatever

[viral mulch]

i dont get it

[thorn bay]

Yelan?

[fair urchin]

4 star units please

[neon harness]

Fischl idk

[thorn bay]

Aino?

[rugged sparrow]

do not use Aino

[thorn bay]

Ok

[rugged sparrow]

just Fischl

[thorn bay]

Ye then fischl

[fair urchin]

no aino she takes the bloom buff

[thorn bay]

Sorry

[fair urchin]

i'll try fischl then thanks

[viral mulch]

malding triple kenki is just realizing the real issue is anemo one not cryo

[rugged sparrow]

both

somehow the anemo one really hates me and backsteps to oblivion

[viral mulch]

dash bait strat is kinda consistent if not for anemo

[rugged sparrow]

and then I had cryo Kenki double dash

like ???

the RNG u thought never could

[viral mulch]

wtf is double dash 💀

og vagabond ahh move

[rugged sparrow]

dash ground slam dash

[viral mulch]

oh

[rugged sparrow]

after it approaches me it dashes again

[viral mulch]

right

[rugged sparrow]

like bro

[viral mulch]

i thought it just pulled out a vagabond move and dash dashed

[rugged sparrow]

can u stay still

[viral mulch]

speaking of malding

i am not ok

[rugged sparrow]

anyway I cleared but idt c0 can clear

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/tekken-wavedash-kazuya-gif-26669268

[viral mulch]

in comparison

[rugged sparrow]

what abyss does to ppl

[neon harness]

holy wtf

[viral mulch]

never am i gonna try killing duck before shielding again 🙏

[strange scarab]

The squeakers are surprisingly tanky

What no ec does to a mf

[viral mulch]

they each have more hp than the first wave woman

[strange scarab]

How much is it
the ducks i mean

[viral mulch]

26% of duck itself and duck has 5.6m ish so its like uhh uh

around 1.5m

[strange scarab]

Shit was tankier than raiden boss 💀

[viral mulch]

considering wave 1 woman is like 830k its almost double of her each

[strange scarab]

Well im glad they're not based on hit counts or something

I refuse to play ec

[neon harness]

man this is embarrassing, for a ||good while|| sec I though Ec was skill - charged attack

Could not follow the convo at all

[opal surge]

[sick quarry]

yall whats a chasca team i can do

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca/Bennett/Furina/Fischl (or Ororon if you have him)

[sick quarry]

thx bro

[thorn bay]

What about iansan

[rugged sparrow]

works too

[thorn bay]

[finite parrot]

Which artifact is best for Varessa ? Oath or obsidian?

[strange scarab]

Yes

[lyric cargo]

they're very similar:

basically just use Obsidian, which you're farming anyways

unless you're running a weapon that gives crit rate

[finite parrot]

I use widsith

[lyric cargo]

no issue with Obsidian then

[finite parrot]

Ok but my plunge demage will be low

[lyric cargo]

crit increases plunge damage as well

[finite parrot]

Ok then

[strange scarab]

[lyric cargo]

you might have to look into rotations, though. Codex might make a difference there

[fast rock]

Where is co op channel

[haughty lotus]

Deleted and merged into this one, you’re better off joining the main server for co op unless you’re banned

[strange scarab]

What do i do if i get banned

[bright cape]

xiao plunge in 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBoKNGCZoUU

[zinc needle]

is there a way how to get unbanned 😭 i got banned for no reason

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

i am surprised zhongli worked there

[opal surge]

I've seen a couple Phys zhongli clears on it I have no clue why people are playing it though

[bright cape]

the video says it procs fischl faster

also the pillar helps

this boss doesn't seem to target pillars at all

[haughty lotus]

Bribe mods

[strange scarab]

[clear ginkgo]

Would it better now to just wish for cons first instead of c0 and r0 of their BIS?

[opal surge]

Depends on the character and the weapon banner

[valid anchor]

depends of character/weapon and your budget, of course.

[clear ginkgo]

f2p

[valid anchor]

pulling for a constellation is the same as getting a character (so you'll need enough for 180 pulls each worst luck)

so, it depends. Sometimes, C1 of most 5-star characters is quite... sub-par, or rather, underwhelming for the nowaday's standards.

[clear ginkgo]

I have almost 180, plus another 50 in the paimon shop I forgot I had. Waiting for Flyns, durin, and maybe the other characters have to see how they play.

Maybe Nefer she seems really cool, I have barely wished the whole last year. I've really only wished for Xilonen and Mauvika for characters. Ive been either saving or getting other BIS weapons. Which I still need Furina and Mauvika's BIS.

Id love to get Tig's BIS bc its NEVER there but idk.

[valid anchor]

Flins is second half this patch meanwhile Sumeru's chronicle banner is currently active (and you can get Tighnari's bow there).

Nefer is coming soon, so, the choice is entirely yours.

[clear ginkgo]

ya, but unfortunately ive been told new characters over weapons first go . As much as I did adore Tig, he has kinda been power crept, especially with new ones now out.

[strange scarab]

The question is also a little bit too general

Every chars have different power increase for their c1 and r1

and it also depends on what the f2p weapon it is being compared to

[neon harness]

teams plek f12

[strange scarab]

neuv taser and mav maybe

[opal surge]

Yeah something like that

Can consider Mav/mualani/rational botside

[versed mortar]

is the crab impossible without lauma ?

[opal surge]

No

[versed mortar]

feels like it

[opal surge]

Dire is a bit suspect without lauma and no vertical, but diff4-5 should be completely fine

[strange scarab]

Totally the easiest one in this cycle

Those shroom missiles doing the heavy lifting around

[versed mortar]

Absolutely not

The missiles do damage and break the shields but they're not nearly enough, you have to have either lauma or alhaitam for dps and I have neither

[strange scarab]

what comp are you running that got you struggling anyways

[versed mortar]

Nilou nahida tighnari/yelan kokomi/yaoyao

Nothing works

[strange scarab]

You ran tighnari in bloom team

cool

Anyways you ever tried hb against it

Considering this is more an ST scenario and you dont have lauma to incentive running nilou bloom in st

[opal surge]

Nahida nilou should be mega fine

[strange scarab]

True

[opal surge]

I cleared with niloubloom first time around

Before I whipped out the quickbloom chasca

[strange scarab]

Okay

[opal surge]

I think neuv nahida is probably the easiest if you can do that @versed mortar

Or any electro quickbloomer ig

[strange scarab]

Lauma did a good job in bringing out neuv for me

is he in her bis team

[versed mortar]

genuinely how, bloom is garbage without lauma

[opal surge]

On paper no in practice I think so yeah

[versed mortar]

guess i'll try

[strange scarab]

Hey youre leaving out nilou in this

[versed mortar]

even with nilou its mid

[strange scarab]

lauma is not the reason why u run pure bloom in the first place

[rugged sparrow]

isn't there someone who cleared with only 3 chars, even

[strange scarab]

is her bis team triple hydro at the moment

Can you even bring 3 chars in styg? i forgot

[opal surge]

You can

There's no clear bis team for Lauma there all pretty close

[strange scarab]

Ah its IT that forces you to run 4

[opal surge]

It just depends on what you have

[strange scarab]

Gee whiz

[opal surge]

I think neuv furina ineffa Lauma probably performs the best in practice for most players

[rugged sparrow]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1hZpszFEnN

[strange scarab]

my lauma is c1 so its nilou yelan and someone

[opal surge]

Nahida

Ig

[strange scarab]

Aw crap not the radish

[rugged sparrow]

1 cost 3 chars crab clear

[opal surge]

TBF when I did crab I was completely clueless

I went in kinda blind never fought it before

[strange scarab]

Same

[rugged sparrow]

same

[opal surge]

And I was like wtf is going on

[rugged sparrow]

I like the crab sfx and boing boing

funny boss

[opal surge]

120s clear first time around om

[rugged sparrow]

wheres Lauma and c2 Nilou

for that massive hydro res reduction

[opal surge]

I'm not a whale

[rugged sparrow]

Neuv needs his sustenance

[opal surge]

It also doesn't help that noone in this team had EM for nahida

My nahida is em dendro crit

[rugged sparrow]

[strange scarab]

Such an absolute punching bag of a boss

And then theres the fatui guy

[green ore]

need halp ples TvT (stygian onslaught)

[fiery wigeon]

Hear me out, running the etherlight spindlelute on nahida then putting her r5 sac frags on kokomi

[lyric cargo]

everyone else: "don't wanna bench the archon, so I'm getting Nilou instead of playing lauma HB"
guoballs: "oh no not the radish"

[bright cape]

are u getting flins?

[lyric cargo]

nah

[bright cape]

u have varesa?

[lyric cargo]

nope, my only electro carry is c0 Raiden

[bright cape]

same.

n keqing

with electro, i think off-fielders do a good bit of heavy lifting

fischl, ororon, kuki

i might pull on ineffa for neuvi team

[lyric cargo]

I was able to do the 3rd boss on fearless with Neuv, though

so i think I survived the Flins shill without having him

[bright cape]

yah. thanks for sharing this

i thought it was impossible without flins/ineffa

i was able to do with this same team

[lyric cargo]

that clear was first attempt, so maybe a better time is possible

if this was the best I could do, it'd look difficult without c1 Neuv c1 Furina

[bright cape]

i think i could have not pulled on lauma too.
but she looked so pretty

and also i was a bit annoyed with nahida's app not reapplying after mob died

[bright cape]

will u get furina c2?

[lyric cargo]

maybe.. her personal dmg is becoming less important though

and I mainly use her with neuv, not sure how much the faster fanfare generation matters for him

I pulled key for her, which was a mistake I think
never really using the EM buff

[bright cape]

damn

i got key by mistake

[lyric cargo]

if someone on Nod-Krai teams used a sword and was able to activate it, I could put key on them

[bright cape]

mine is c0. other than hydro resonance and her hydro app, i don't feel her dmg boost

[bright cape]

may be columbina

[lyric cargo]

my Neuv did ~25k ticks against boss 1 without her
~40k with

[bright cape]

oh i see

it took a bit of time for mine to burst

also sometimes whe she burst, enemy movies out of frame and i have to readjust 😔

[quaint fern]

Bro there's no way columbina isn't hydro

So like of she kicks out Furina from neuvi teams the powercreep is actually going to be crazy

Probably less neuvi dmg and more like LC dmg tho

[rugged sparrow]

would be kinda crazy to kick out Furina unless you just shoehorn Columbina and force lunar reactions with Neuv

so he's gonna be Ayato v2.0

[quaint fern]

Yeah neuvi is not beating the wheelchair allegations LOL

[rugged sparrow]

what goes around comes around huh

[quaint fern]

lowkey tho I've been tempted to just try to pull him or arle on rerun

Bc I already have all the artifacts for both characters

[rugged sparrow]

now we just need a hydro DPS with better aoe, simpler to play, and higher DPS than Neuv

going full circles

[quaint fern]

Watch them just make Bina the on fielder

Neuvi who???

[rugged sparrow]

bina nukes entirety of abyss chamber

without inputs

[tall python]

Which cons do i need more?

[rugged sparrow]

Skirk would appreciate c1 Shenhe

Tao c1 is also nice if you still use her

that's about it

[tall python]

Opinion on c2 ayaka?

[tall python]

Whats a twam for skirk btw?

[rugged sparrow]

if you like her sure ig?

[rugged sparrow]

same team where you'd use Ayaka

Skirk/Furi/Shenhe/+1 (ideally Escoffier)

[tall python]

Last team is shnehe kazuha kokomi iirc

Ic jc ok

[tall python]

Any recomm for last slot?

[rugged sparrow]

either Charlotte or Mika

need healer for Furi

[tall python]

Ill try to build them but rn would iansan or bennet do?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[tall python]

Ok

[rugged sparrow]

can Kokomi ig but Charlotte or Mika is better due to utilities they offer

[tall python]

Ic between c1 char and c4 mika?

Or cons not matter much for them?

[rugged sparrow]

c4 Mika is nice since it helps his energy

[tall python]

Alright tjanks

[rugged sparrow]

less of a headache to build

low cons Charlotte needs to worry about ER while trying to fit TTDS

[tall python]

Mika it is then

[raven wing]

For Lauma’s passive, does this mean the bloom crits cannot go past 15%/100%? if so why bother build crit on her? Thx

[rugged sparrow]

she has some personal damage through her E

but it's not something u should be worrying about, stacking EM + ER on her is more than fine

[bright cape]

since hydro traveller was so shit, i wish nod-krai gave him something extra

we aren't getting a new traveller anyway

[nova swift]

What makes you say that? It's way more likely that ||Kuutar|| is Cryo.

[opal surge]

she has hydro heels that are shown in every shot

and the moon has innate connections to water

[bright cape]

hydro is the most most reactable element

[nova swift]

Yes, she's also the ||successor of the Frost Moon|| and ||worshipped as the god of the Frostmoon Scions.||

Currently, and this is just speculation based off the lore we have, but the 7 elements all have their more primordial "sovereigns", post-dragon sovereign but pre-archon

Anemo - Istaroth
Geo - Asmoday
Electro - Eternal Moon
Dendro - Iridescent Moon
Hydro - Naberius
Pyro - Ronova
Cryo - Frost Moon

Electro/Dendro could possibly be switched but I think Eternal Moon being linked to "Eternity" lines up with Electro better

[opal surge]

she wont be cryo

its blatantly obvious

[nova swift]

It makes literally no sense for her to be anything but Cryo

[opal surge]

lauma and flins both have a huge lacking spot to be filled by the archon

and it must be hydro

she cannot be anyting else but hydro

[nova swift]

I don't care about the gameplay side of things, the lore is a much more deciding factor here

[opal surge]

i can bet a 100€ topup on this

in the blink of an eye

theyre not stupid theyre designing flins and lauma kit around a missing hydro character

[tulip patio]

bro shes a driver for lunar charged and lunar bloom

[opal surge]

i wonder who that is

[tulip patio]

real quiet now

[late ivy]

hey guys, can you guys suggest me a middle team? my lauma isnt built nor is it close to being built so ;-;

[bright cape]

can you imagine if columbina is the only one who can rimegrass?

with her being cryo

[quaint fern]

Well if hoyo hates making money maybe

I don't imagine that they'd make lunar mechanics that rely on hydro + X and then not make the archon level character work with them

Oh hell yeah rimegrass + superconduct

[nova swift]

They would upset more people by making her hydro than cryo

[hazy lotus]

More people = you

i don’t love the idea of another hydro five star atp but not making her hydro to fill the role they’ve set up would just make these characters stagnant

[quaint fern]

Yeah genuinely we don't need another hydro 5* DPS or support

Though I would not mind bc I feel like stygian has made me wish I had yelan

Hydro once again being the strongest element in the game CINEMA

[autumn heath]

Hey Guys.. need help.. i am Building Mualani Vape team with Pyro MC, Out of these who is the best Character for her last two slots? Jean, Sucrose, Lynette, Furina, Mona, Xingqiu, Aino or Barbara?

[tulip patio]

mona/furina and sucrose

idk who gives more damage between mona and furina

[autumn heath]

For mona the only confusion i have is what Artifact to put for her in this case and what Weapon to give her

[tulip patio]

usaully it would be thrilling tales but mualani is an hp scaler so idk\

[autumn heath]

Ahh ic no problem thanks so much. I asked in Genshin Official server too but there no one even bothering to reply lol

[tulip patio]

same,,,

[autumn heath]

Now im like why even i pulled for Mualani 🤧 sure i like Mualani very much.. She is the most energetic and Cutest Natlan Character ever ... 🥲 Lets see

[tulip patio]

trust me her damage is BIGGG,, i have a shiz mualani build but my highest damage is 400k with mavuika, sucrose, and mona all at c0r0

[jaunty temple]

which one for mav

[thorn bay]

Not furina

[thorn bay]

Mona sucrose

[thorn bay]

Instructor and fav maybe

[thorn bay]

Probably the right one if you are playing melt

[hard garnet]

should i get flins even if i do not have ineffa? or should i save for when escoffier comes out so i can put her with skirk?

[grand fossil]

how do this guys work again?

[quaint fern]

dont get hit with a shield

I would just nuke them with mav burst

[lyric cargo]

based on what lunar reactions scale with, she could just be an EM or reaction% buffer where Furina buffs dmg%.
Would be funny if Neuv's team prefers that because it uses Lauma + Ineffa as off-fielders now

or they go the Mavuika route and make has a dual dps..

[lyric cargo]

someone on our elite run team wants to pull Neuv c6, and we're joking that Columbina will be Neuv but with a bike (his one downside for elite runs, no movement utility)

[lyric cargo]

dmg% not mattering for Nod-Krai chars so far seems to say they've realized that Furina is 2 regions old and it's time she gets pushed off meta teams ^^

[quaint fern]

bro not my c2 rina like that D:

[lyric cargo]

there are the lunar blooms, which I think use her own crit stats

[lyric cargo]

Lauma already trying to bench my c2 Nahida in non-nilou bloom teams ^^

[lyric cargo]

I think she'll be fine on a separate team, though
we'll run one Bennett team, one Furina team, and one Columbina team

for Stygian

[quaint fern]

I hate that you're probably right LOL

[thorn bay]

Random dumb thought

Sethos on shim

His skill is basically just to give him energy

Shim takes that energy away

Very dumb thought

[thorn bay]

Actually his energy regen from skill is 12 and shim takes away 15 so you lose 3 energy

[violet cipher]

this would be for my Lauma, should I keep or no?

She's using event weapon so she has a lot of er already, so that's why I'm unsure.

also nahida

[quaint fern]

bro why are you rerolling it

rollwise rightis just better so

[violet cipher]

2 def but I kinda see ur point

Also it was a typewriter creation

[quaint fern]

it really doesnt matter for lauma

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it happened already ig

but keep the reshaped one

ER good

[young sphinx]

who do i use/build for a mualani team? my account is cooked

[rugged sparrow]

Mua/PMC/Sucrose/Zhong

[young sphinx]

thank youuu!!! i'm not entirely sure how to use pmc though haha

[rugged sparrow]

press E swap out

[young sphinx]

yeah that's too complicated for me 🥹

thank u for the help!!!!

[zinc needle]

in mavuika premium team which is better for xilo? petra or instructor

[rugged sparrow]

Petra ideally but kinda to play around

crystallize shard drop placement RNG

[autumn heath]

Yeah i have her Built Instructor 4pc (3star and 4 star artifacts mixed) but doesnt EM weapons like Mappa mare or Sac Frags work here than Fav?

[autumn heath]

Yeah even i hit 400k with Sucrose, Mona and Xiang with 4pc Scroll Cinders. But am just confused as to what team to put for her lol thats it. Also, I have Ring of Yaxche R0 and Widsith R2 for her. Which would be better performing?

[rugged sparrow]

Widsith is better for Mua if you play reset gaming / planning to one rotate the enemies

Yaxche is more consistent / better in longer rots

[rugged sparrow]

dont use Mona

nor Furina

headache to play around since they can potentially ruin Mua's vapes

do you have other chars

[autumn heath]

So who should i run with her?

[rugged sparrow]

post a list of your chars

Mua Suc PMC is already solid core

the only 2nd hydro you should consider is Candace pre-c6

[autumn heath]

Yeah imma send list few mins. Havin my lunch rn

[bold orchid]

Guys

Can you accept the invitation please

Receive the summons of fate, and let's explore the new Version "Luna I" together! Take part in the event for guaranteed Primogems and even flip cards to win other awesome prizes! Invitation code: GA8WTGUG9N https://hoyo.link/78oKEvyme?m_code=GA8WTGUG9N

Asia server

[lyric cargo]

daily coms example (30s if you have encounter points)

you'd need to use up the condensed resin when it's hit 5, though. otherwise you can't craft any

can also claim battle pass rewards here (but the 4th battle pass mission requires crafting 3 condensed instead of 2)

[lyric cargo]

it's not possible if they've already accepted another

it's basically a snowball system. get primos if you can invite someone to the event who hasn't done it yet

[bold orchid]

Ooh

But i am trying if anyone of you haven't helped any other persons then

[lyric cargo]

the event's been out for a while, so most people have

there's #wonderland-link-sharing, but I think it's just somewhere to redirect the flood of share requests

personally I haven't posted my share link at all

[humble mica]

old player coming in, whats the meta rn? qwq pls help. is my account cooked LMAOO

[rugged sparrow]

meta is basically pull every new unit

but older chars can clear endgame content with relative ease depending on investment

you have Varesa so that's a start

[autumn heath]

These are Chars i have and with Cons. + I have Aino apart from these chars.

[rugged sparrow]

your other DPS can use some upgrades (like Furina for Wrio/Tao/haitham, Lauma for Nilou, Xianyun for Xiao, etc)

[rugged sparrow]

idk how to read this thing, but is Barb basically 80/90 and c6

[autumn heath]

Wait here is clearer image no Barb is C0 and she is 70/80

[rugged sparrow]

ah so golden star means cons

[autumn heath]

Yes

[rugged sparrow]

just run Emilie ig

[autumn heath]

I could screenshot ingame or from Hoyolab i tried but the Clarity isnt good

[rugged sparrow]

Mua/Suc/PMC/Emilie

Emilie basically contributes with her personal dmg without ruining Mua's vapes

[autumn heath]

But i have a Doubt. Does Mualani dmg decreases as her HP decrease while fighting?

[rugged sparrow]

no

[autumn heath]

So she doesn't req healer right?

[viral mulch]

nom nom nom burp

[rugged sparrow]

if you play her well you don't really need healer, no

[viral mulch]

tbf its mualani she aint dodging shit

natlan character when a concept of normal dash comes in

[rugged sparrow]

she has like 30-40k HP and fairly mobile anyway

[autumn heath]

Very well. Thank u for suggestion. Could i use this team in Spiral in general? Is it viable or cuz i don't have much other good Chars

[rugged sparrow]

yes it's spiral viable

[viral mulch]

second part practically doesnt work so itll just be believe in big hp and clear before u die

which tbf with enough dmg is plausible

[rugged sparrow]

I mean depending on the match up u can dodge while building the chomp ig

e.g. fat fuck

just surfboard to his ass

[viral mulch]

the humble burning floor

[autumn heath]

Is Building Yanfei Overload still good? Like i have Fischl and C0 Sara

[viral mulch]

it was never good

[rugged sparrow]

^

Yanfei has always been primarily a vape DPS
melt if you want to mald

[autumn heath]

Well.. i kinda like her Jp Va so was planning to build her lol

[rugged sparrow]

and Sara is a dogshit unit without c6

and she's generally paired with an electro DPS for it

[autumn heath]

Yeah. Well i guess imma just postpone her rn

[viral mulch]

u can build her just use a team thats not overload

[rugged sparrow]

if you want to play Yanfei u just run Bennett Xq +1

likely just Fischl so no overlap with Sucrose

actually no there's Lan Yan

your Yanfei isn't c6 though so

[autumn heath]

Yeah she is good at swirling and she can run Vv

[viral mulch]

lanyanfei

[rugged sparrow]

only 1/3 of a unit

[autumn heath]

Yeah that is one problem

🥲🥲

[viral mulch]

feixiao

[rugged sparrow]

Yanfeixiao

[viral mulch]

xiao lantern

[autumn heath]

Well thanks for your help buddy! I kept askin in Genshin off server and in Hoyolab but none responding lol

[rugged sparrow]

is there some secret f2p crab strat that I'm missing

https://youtu.be/Atme20EYDt4 @viral mulch

crab exploded

[viral mulch]

its called pull lauma

[rugged sparrow]

@opal surge idk if uve seen it too

[rugged sparrow]

is it really because of Lauma

[opal surge]

yeah crab has lunar bloom shill

[rugged sparrow]

how does it even work

[opal surge]

for lauma hE

it does 500% lunar bloom damage

[viral mulch]

i didnt watch but which part

[opal surge]

so 300k hE becomes 1,5 mil hE

[humble mica]

Yeah I was looking for an active Genshin community as well I'm glad ppl respond quick here^^

[brisk mural]

what artifacts for a chlorinde overload

[viral mulch]

ok i just watched

yea its basically what sensi said and maximizing it

[viral mulch]

hold any bloom until u can blow up a bunch with lauma hold e then it maximizes the self dmg

[rugged sparrow]

most likely just Flins/Aino/Sucrose/Fischl tbh

the fuck ok

I was like "wtf is that seed dmg"

[rugged sparrow]

just Whimsy or Glad

[rugged sparrow]

so basically crit Lauma with Aino is the way

[viral mulch]

real

easiest nilouless crab fr

[rugged sparrow]

I was wondering why they dont just Suc instead of Diona but I forgot that Mua Mav uses Suc

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

cant have two Sucrose
cant have shit in Teyvat

[rugged sparrow]

oh also @opal surge m1

caved in

my Vivian/Yanagi/Alice savings in shambles

[opal surge]

Worth it I say

[rugged sparrow]

55% stun mult against newer bosses that only have 25% stun mult

if its not Trigger shill idk what is

Qingyi:

[viral mulch]

she sees

[rugged sparrow]

she sees indeed

[lyric cargo]

main endgame content is Stygian onslaught difficulty 5 aka fearless

meta for that is:

• one Bennett team
• one Furina team
• one team that tries not to have support overlap, Varesa overload for example (I don't see Chevreuse for that in your char pool)

supports you'd want to have are: Citlali, Escoffier, Xilonen, Furina
carries.. most recent ones are good, but especially Mavuika and Skirk

which teams are good changes every time due to bosses,
for example I used Nahida hyperbloom for the crab meant to promote Lauma. Neuvilette + Escoffier for the recent boss meant to promote Skirk. Neuvilette + Fischl for the current electro-charged boss

[humble mica]

I would use chev, but I have xilonen and built her and it would be a waste if I didn't use her. Is chev still worth to build despite that? I've heard mixed answers

[rugged sparrow]

two different teams utilize Xilo and Chev

[humble mica]

Currently using Varesa/Iansan/Dehya/Xilonen

[rugged sparrow]

Chev can definitely fit there and u use Xilonen elsewhere

[humble mica]

Where else can I use xilonen, currently maining wrio on the side, would she be of use there?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

Wrio Xilo +2

[humble mica]

Melts in I wish I had furina rn

[strange scarab]

[rare snow]

is lauma better in alhaitham furina team than nahida?

[lyric cargo]

Varesa, Iansan, Chevreuse, [Mavuika]

Hutao, Yelan, Furina, Xilonen

then a Bennett or Lauma team (Nilou Lauma Kokomi for example, not sure who to put in the final slot)

[lyric cargo]

I believe so, at least she's better overall even if she were similar there

[rugged sparrow]

assuming last slot being Kuki yes

[rare snow]

yes it is kuki

[thorn bay]

Er not em (it is a weapon for mona right?)

[lyric cargo]

lvl90 with 4pc Flower of Paradise?

[rare snow]

i am a f2p....

[thorn bay]

What does that have to do with being f2p

[rare snow]

cant do lvl 100😢

[rugged sparrow]

???

[thorn bay]

Lvl 90

[rare snow]

yup done

but as f2p we cant do lvl 100 to our characters

[rugged sparrow]

you can it's just gonna take a long time

but that's irrelevant since no one literally mentions lv100 other than u

[rare snow]

oo thanks i dint knew about this paradise artifact

but how much dmg bonus it will give?

[rugged sparrow]

what

more than Gilded

[rare snow]

total?

hmm will change todayy

[rugged sparrow]

but if you already have a good gilded set going, don't need to sweat it

it's like ~5% better at most

[rare snow]

i have kuki above 1k em with gilded

[dense laurel]

Can anyone please name the song that plays on this webevent-page, you can ignore the reflink, this is no cheap attempt to get the invite thing filled up. I'd just love to know the name of the song, thanks o/
https://hoyo.link/78oKEvyme?m_code=GCAT4KVVQN

[humble mica]

What about with my current roster? I'm missing about... 4 of those characters

But ill take note of chevreuse rn

[lyric cargo]

Mavuika in Varesa overload can be replaced with another off-field pyro
if you don't have Chevreuse, that team isn't really viable right now

[lyric cargo]

I see the same screenshot twice, is there a third one that got lost in uploading?

[humble mica]

My other pics are here ! Though if it didn't upload, I'll resend them later!

Tldr I have chevreuse but she's c1 and lv40

[lyric cargo]

oh, you do have Chevreuse and Kuki. good.

[lyric cargo]

even with c0, that's at least res shred which makes the team worth running

c6 chevreuse is worth a lot, of course. something to work towards.

[humble mica]

I've adjusted my teams to be Wrio/XL/Benny/Xilonen and Varesa/Iansan/Dehya/Chev (to be built)

I don't have wrio c1 but I think Benny's buff is worth a lot more

[feral reef]

What the hell

[lyric cargo]

probably not difficulty 5

since the difficulty is not included on the screenshot?

[neon wave]

lv 105 is fearless

whether it's real

[lyric cargo]

oh, didn't see the level

I'm going to say it can't be real

video or it didn't happen

that's not the view showing cons, so maybe it's c6 Navia (I don't know enough about her later cons to say if that's much stronger than c0)

the drake takes a little to adjust its resistances, so I guess Navia can bring it from 76% to 51% if her skill deals enough damage
not sure if the next res increase will be geo or hydro after that, maybe it only starts counting after the last res increase (and then the last 1% could be hydro dmg)

[worldly dawn]

is it better to work on character level, weapons or artifacts first? haven’t played genshin in years and now i wanna make my party stronger >_<

[lyric cargo]

what's your adventure rank?

between char level and talents, it depends
generally talent levels are more important, but only for those talents that actually matter

for someone like Kuki triggering hyperbloom, char level is the most important

[worldly dawn]

43 and my party consists of raiden, xingqiu, xiangling and bennett

[lyric cargo]

in that case I'd grind ar45 as fast as possible

you'll get better artifacts from domains once you're ar45

also, we're currently in the first 10 days of stygian onslaught which makes artifact farming especially good

so ar45 as soon as possible would be my priority, to farm as much of that as possible

it's also a good place to spend your fragile resin

[worldly dawn]

i do that by completing quests and exploring right? i forgot basically everything :”””)

[thorn bay]

Ye nice

Only have to farm 2 domain

Honestly just 1

Strong box noblesse

Farm emblem

[lyric cargo]

I don't think noblesse is a priority

[thorn bay]

? Ok

[thorn bay]

Can you explain cuz I want to note?

[lyric cargo]

if Lauma is a consideration, I'd make it a hyperbloom team

[lyric cargo]

getting good artifacts on the main damage sources would be my priority

[lyric cargo]

I'd strongbox emblem rather than farm it, since the second set from that domain isn't great

[thorn bay]

I see

[lyric cargo]

a basic 4pc noblesse can be a good pickup at some point

[thorn bay]

Game gives full noblesse for free

[lyric cargo]

maybe exploring nod-krai, as I heard that oculi give adventure exp now

[neon wave]

pretty much anything in the game will give AR, yeah, particularly dailies and spending resin.
I wouldn't rush necessarily, but when you do get to AR45 you should do max level domains, and stygian if it's available (you can get someone to carry you). If you're spending fragiles on artifacts, stygian has a better drop rate so prioritize that

[lyric cargo]

oh, quest rewards? I see

[thorn bay]

But rng is still a thing

[thorn bay]

Ye the book

[worldly dawn]

thank you guys 🙏

[lyric cargo]

check this menu, the "quests" there give a lot of ar exp for simple tasks

[thorn bay]

Ye I think that give noblesse

[feral reef]

Is mav bennett ororon better with chev or xilonen, or other

[lyric cargo]

you can also look for domains like this, which give shrine of depth keys and ~400 ar exp
basically double dipping since the shrine of depth also gives ar exp I think

[lyric cargo]

also, check the second to last bag in your inventory
shrine keys, sigils, oculi, etc can all be handed in for things that give ar exp

well, sigils for Inazuma and after
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Offering_System

[feral reef]

is this mid or is akasha just really competitive for skirk

[rugged sparrow]

kinda eh

but it's fine

[feral reef]

i think it just sucks cuz no espresso

[rugged sparrow]

what does Escoffier have anything to do with your build though

[feral reef]

https://tenor.com/view/eeffoc'-coffee-spelled-backwards-is-eeffoc-which-is-funny-its-eeffoc-and-its-funny-coffee-coffee-spelled-backwards-gif-5176337279040892888

[feral reef]

oh sorry
i meant my clears

i should have said that

[rugged sparrow]

makes sense

[opal surge]

it is kinda mid

[feral reef]

what teams for stygian pls help me

or is fearless of the table

[cedar flint]

Ngl I struggle to clear crab with nilou bloom on menacing

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca Mav +2 for Drake
Lauma/Kuki/Xq/+1 for crab (or do the funny Lauma/Aino/Nahida/+1 team lol)
Varesa/Furi/Xianyun/Iansan

u can probs also cook with Mav Navia Bennett Xilo and rotate between Navia and Mav dmg

[feral reef]

chasca mav b ennett ororon work?

[rugged sparrow]

thinking of something like Chasca Mav Bennett Shenhe

so Chasca will override with cryo bullets, Mav with pyro

[feral reef]

ah

i will try

[somber birch]

can i get 2 teams😭

[thorn bay]

Same 2 pic

[somber birch]

oops, thats basically all my 5*s anyways

[thorn bay]

4 star is also needed

[somber birch]

i have basically all of em, dm building new ones, this acc is cooked

[thorn bay]

Also can I have spare change

[somber birch]

imm gonna be at that spot after im done bui;ding everyone

[thorn bay]

What team do you want?

[somber birch]

just trynna clear the current abyss

[thorn bay]

Disclaimer I am not a good guide tho

[somber birch]

im guessing smth like neuv furina raiden kazu
and mauv for other but idk

[thorn bay]

Ye probably

[somber birch]

what do you think would be better? main dps chasca or mauv?

[thorn bay]

Level up your furina and Bennett tho

[thorn bay]

Probably mav

[somber birch]

idont have cit so im leaning more towards chasca

[somber birch]

yah thats what im doing rn, will crown her burst and max her as well
but i cant really kill stuff so i gotta wait

[thorn bay]

Kinich mavuika Bennett iansan maybe?? Not so sure

[somber birch]

Noo not kinich I can't use him will

[rugged sparrow]

Mav without Cit and Xilo
atp just pair her with Kinich or Chasca yeah

[somber birch]

What would the chasca team be cause I can't think of anything that won't need furina lmao

[thorn bay]

Woah me was right ? Nice

[thorn bay]

Chasca suck at aoe

[somber birch]

Uhm

[rugged sparrow]

yeah u just run Furi but overlap with Neuv + Furi team so

[thorn bay]

You said Chasca vs mav

[somber birch]

It's not that bad tho, I use her in my main she claps everyone

[rugged sparrow]

your best option is sucking it up and play Kinich

[somber birch]

I physically can't play kinich

[thorn bay]

Woah me actually right is insane

[thorn bay]

Just slide to pixelated area and then kaboom?

I thought he easy to play

[somber birch]

I can't, trust. I have tried

It's my pc. I can't play him properly it's better not to bother

[rugged sparrow]

for abyss u can just run Raiden/Yelan/Xq/+1 on 1st half and Chasca/Furi/Mav/Bennett on 2nd half (or Neuv/Furi team)

[thorn bay]

I couldn’t understand how to use mualani without reading but I def did on kinich

[somber birch]

That raiden team so cope ngl but I'll try😭

[rugged sparrow]

I mean you need EC

your other alternative is playing Neuv Furi Fischl on 1st half
then plays Kinich on 2nd half but u dont play Kinich so

[thorn bay]

2 2nd half

[somber birch]

How would smth like mauv Bennet lansan yelan be?

[rugged sparrow]

woops

[rugged sparrow]

sure

[somber birch]

Floor 11 is easy right?

[thorn bay]

1st half got triple kenki?

[rugged sparrow]

you can play floor11 blindfolded if u have the right investment

[thorn bay]

I forgot

[rugged sparrow]

that's 2nd half

[somber birch]

Second

[thorn bay]

Oh

[rugged sparrow]

actually u can just Arle 2nd half too so you can Neuv/Furi/Fischl/Kaz 1st half and Arle/Bennett+2 2nd half

[somber birch]

Arle team?

[rugged sparrow]

Arle/Bennett+2 really
probs a mix between Layla or Lan Yan for shielding + some utility (TotM or VV) and just Xiangling or Rosaria if you wanna play melt Arle

[somber birch]

No xq?

[rugged sparrow]

it's an option sure but Xq long cooldowns is kinda awkward for Arle

[somber birch]

Alright

[rugged sparrow]

Yelan is an option too

instead of Xq

shorter cooldown

[somber birch]

Oh I'll use her, she's built too

[rugged sparrow]

then last slot is likely just Lan Yan / Sucrose

Lan Yan can be nice against Kenki but the serpent knights have annoying gimmick against shielded chars

just make sure you don't get hit by the pyro one especially

[somber birch]

Is there any way to grind artifacts fodder fast btw?

[rugged sparrow]

spend resin

[somber birch]

Yes I am, I have like 40 fragiles to burn

[crude dirge]

kill elites maybe

or explore

[somber birch]

that is not fast😭

[crude dirge]

doesnt need resin then

i doubt there are any other ways to get artifacts

[somber birch]

Idm if it needs resins my char weeks so i kill too slow...

[crude dirge]

then just grind artifacts in stygian

[somber birch]

Yea I'm talking about that

[lyric cargo]

fodder for exp?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjie9gl4bY

the final natlan area (easibreeze resort) gave a bunch of nice artifact with mora spots

it's like 150 1-star artifacts and 20k mora per day

if your game world isn't completely grinded out, I'd just explore and grab chests though

gives artifacts, mora, primogems, and char exp books

these routes are more an activity for players who've done everything else already

[blazing cliff]

hi guys! im really confused about the Moonsign Benediction Passive. the way i understand the moonsign level thingy is that if you have a nodkrai character on your team, your moonsign level increases by 1, so does that mean if the character has the benediction passive, does moonsign level become 2 even if you only have 1 nodkrai character on your party?

or is this passive the reason for moonsign level to increase and if a future nodkrai character dont have a benediction passive then the moonsign level will not increase?

[crude dirge]

level = amount of nod krai characters

[crude dirge]

i think its like natlan character where everyone has that nightsoul passive

[blazing cliff]

ooooh ok2. i get it now. i thought it was a passive unique to some nodkrai characters that would give you ascendant gleam even if you only have 1 nodkrai character. thank you so much!!!!! maybe safe to assume for now that all nodkrai characters will have this passive since the first 3 have it.

[crude dirge]

we still cant know if that will happen or not

they could make someone that increases by 2

[blazing cliff]

i really thought i could put only aino and give alhaitham the new nodkrai artifact that gives crit rate AHAHAHAHAHA

thank you so much for clarifying!!

[crude dirge]

it will give 15% crit rate but why

i think it will

still havent actually read what makes it happen

[blazing cliff]

no no its bc i thought at first that 1 nodkrai character = 1 level then plus the passive, it will become 2. so i wanted to try the artifact on alhaitham with only lauma (not aino, i made a mistake above sorry) as the nodkrai character

[crude dirge]

did u expect an unconditioal 15% crit rate artifact set

[blazing cliff]

i thought it will give me the 30% crit rate AHAHAHAHA

but now i understand that i need lauma and aino in the team for the 30% cr

[crude dirge]

then what 15% part was all about

[blazing cliff]

you were the one that mentioned the 15% part

[unreal sandal]

Hey guys, just returned playing after a long break.
Who should I use this Masterless Stella Fortuna on?
(I got C6 mona for some reason and im F2P)

[rugged sparrow]

the char you like most

the increase from level 90 > 100 for the most part is negligible

[lyric cargo]

personally I'd just be sitting on it if I got one
until I need a little extra power to clear content

it's not much, just ~5% more personal damage from lvl95 I think?

[crude dirge]

15%/30% crit rate is written in the set

[lyric cargo]

while I'm able to clear stygian without it, I don't see much reason to use it
could always be better on a future char than on one I have right now

[unreal sandal]

Do I need 2 MSF to lvl 100?

[rugged sparrow]

3

well 2 from 95 to 100

but you need 3 from 90 to 100

[unreal sandal]

TH?!

[rugged sparrow]

thailand

[lyric cargo]

tbh? (I don't see where it says TH)

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

I thought they were asking what th meant, but I don't see it anywhere else^^

[rugged sparrow]

probably just "The hell"

who knows

[lyric cargo]

ah, that makes sense

[blazing cliff]

yes but i thought this "moonsign level = amount of nod krai characters" passive is different from the benediction passive. so i thought that characters that have benediction passive can increase your moonsign level to 2 even with only one nodkrai character. but so far, all released nodkrai characters have the benediction passive. i thought it was a unique passive for lauma

[unreal sandal]

And here i was palnning to get another mona so I can lvl 100 a character

[lyric cargo]

that misunderstanding was bound to happen, I think

[rugged sparrow]

I mean u can, it's just gonna take a while

but as mentioned, lv90 > 100 is kinda negligible for the most part

[lyric cargo]

it might still be the best use for one of your constellation selectors
we're getting 4 per year, and many chars pretty much don't see play at all

[unreal sandal]

yeah, imma just get C1 hutao

[rugged sparrow]

good idea if you still play tao

[crude dirge]

dehya c2

[blazing cliff]

yeah i really thought i could only have lauma as the nodkrai character and get the 30% crit rate on the artifact. i dont want to use aino in the team bc i think her hydro app is not that good compared to xingqiu

[lyric cargo]

nice to have a pyro char who doesn't need Bennett I think, if there are ever 2 sides in stygian that want pyro
(tao does need Furina, though)

[unreal sandal]

I haven't used her since I got Arle and Mavuika, but I still have muscle memory on how to play her

[lyric cargo]

hmm, Lauma has a passive that does different things depending on moonsign as well
bloom crit buff at moonsign 1, lunar bloom crit buff at moonsign 2

for now, Lauma's hold skill is the only source of lunar bloom dmg
so I think you actually want to avoid moonsign 2 with her and play bloom teams (mostly hyperbloom, maybe nilou bloom if you have her)

[lyric cargo]

I've seen people play her against the drake this stygian

[rugged sparrow]

there's some cursed crab clear strat with Lauma and Ascendant Moongleam

[blazing cliff]

OH YEAH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT good thing i asked here

my current team for lauma is with nilou, nahida and xingqiu since my barbara is not built and i dont really have time building her rn

[crude dirge]

who is the healer here

[blazing cliff]

thats my problem i dont have a healer, i use xingqiu for damage reduction

[lyric cargo]

I doubt prototype amber Nahida would be enough

[rugged sparrow]

pull c1 Lauma

[lyric cargo]

bloom's self damage was nerfed down to 40% of its old value, but it still seems ambitious?

I'd consider just playing hyperbloom. do you have yelan?

it's higher single target damage anyways 🤔

like 115k with raiden or 105k with kuki

[blazing cliff]

i was thinking about this but i really want nefer and im afraid if i pull for c1, i wont have enough primos for nefer plus not guaranteed

[lyric cargo]

I think nilou bloom's single target damage is now like 90k dps

the calc I'm looking at says 92.8k

[opal surge]

thats far too high

[blazing cliff]

only xingqiu. i have a hyperbloom team with alhaitham, nahida, xingqiu and shinobu

[rugged sparrow]

100k bloom team sounds like some sim scam

wouldn't that basically require each bloom hit for 60k+

my Lauma has t1 talents rn so I can't really tell a good bloom range

[blazing cliff]

these are my current teams and most of them arent even built. i just keep on pulling and pulling for characters. eventually i cant focus on which character i should build

[rugged sparrow]

normal sounding teams

[blazing cliff]

i was supposed to build my neuvi but then lauma came and i dropped him XD

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it shouldn't be that hard to build Lauma

just enough ER + EM

crit being optional

[lyric cargo]

main question I've seen asked is what sets to use

someone should be on deepwood
the new support set, I'm not sure is worth it when it just gives 60EM (1 nk char)

[rugged sparrow]

better than nothing ig

[lyric cargo]

the trigger unit would be on 4pc FloP

and then chars like Xq / Yelan could be on emblem

[rugged sparrow]

your next best option for Lauma in Niloom is 2p2p 80 EM

[lyric cargo]

I think I've seen 4pc gilded
but that means it's dire
historically a very bad set

[opal surge]

i think if ur doing hyperbloom -> hyperbloom you shuld simply take nahidas set put it on lauma and call it a day

its not optimal but close enough

[rugged sparrow]

hyperbloom > hyperbloom

que

[lyric cargo]

switching from old HB to new HB, I think

[rugged sparrow]

ah

but I want my chars to have their own individual sets

[lyric cargo]

the nahida bench move

I performed that kind of switch between Raiden and Kuki's FloP set a bunch, this stygian

[rugged sparrow]

oh it finally updates

initially used Lisa instead of Kuki but the rifthounds are issues

[bright cape]

is sayu there for heals?

[rugged sparrow]

heals vv yes

her personal is also pretty respectable in EC (or agg) teams

[bright cape]

i am confused who does most damage

[rugged sparrow]

it's Ifa in that team

it's like Ifa > Sayu=Furina > Ororon I think

[bright cape]

what cons do u have him?

i am just surprised coz none of the teammates benefit ifa

[rugged sparrow]

like c3? or c4 idr

[bright cape]

may be furina a bit

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it's just Mizuki but better

[bright cape]

yah. she had a sad fate 😔

powercrept by 4 star

my appretiation for fischl has only increased over time

[rugged sparrow]

Bennett Xiangling Sucrose Fischl and Xq

having meta in some kind of a chokehold for 5 years and counting

[opal surge]

xiangling is kinda dead tbf

[bright cape]

like i was pretty sure i needed ineffa for the 3rd stygian boss.
but fischl alone was more than enough

[opal surge]

the only time ive used her since mavuika release was for LDS

[rugged sparrow]

took them 5 years yes

[opal surge]

true

[rugged sparrow]

Xq got a bit of revival with Nod-Krai

after completely missing in the entirety of Natlan

[bright cape]

true

his skill cooldown is a bit long

[opal surge]

playing xq gives me the ick

[rugged sparrow]

Sucrose went kinda absent during Fontaine

back again with Nod-Krai

[bright cape]

all xiangling need is a good ER heavy polearm. trust 😔

that gives like 150% ER for free

[rugged sparrow]

[haughty lotus]

All it took was one whole nation to not being able to use xingqiu for zajef to not glaze him as the best character in the game

[rugged sparrow]

meanwhile Bennett

ig Bennett got his downs during Sumeru

[haughty lotus]

Still mid, Neuv better true

[rugged sparrow]

SO TRUE

[zinc needle]

what build for lauma if the team is nilou barbs nahi

[hoary python]

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[rugged sparrow]

either 4p Silken Moon/Gilded or 2p2p 80 EM

obviously 4p Deepwood if no one else is holding it

[zinc needle]

which is better

Nahida does