📌gimshim-help

[bright cape]

with ineffa, neuvi could have easily done this

129 ER on fischl is not enough

n with ororon too

[lyric cargo]

without Esco, I wouldn't expect Skirk to do well

[lyric cargo]

yeah, the third boss really shows where ER is missing. even just a little hurts

[opal surge]

skirk is killing in like 50 seconds though

but maybe u never reach the threshhold to break first shield yeah

without coffee

[bright cape]

yah. not even able to break 1st shield

[bright cape]

for fearless?

i heard the boss has low electro res

[opal surge]

yeah once the shield goes down she just shits on the boss

[bright cape]

i dunno how skirk is doing so much

[lyric cargo]

similar to my experience clearing with highly invested Mav

clearing the shields took multiple tries, then I finished in 76s when I finally got it

[bright cape]

i am somewhat close to breaking shields. let's see

this gamemode is so restrictive

[lyric cargo]

at least my logic of "get Mav's c2 and rely on her as a joker" worked out. question is for how long. at what point will Mav stop clearing content not meant for her?

Skirk+ Esco seems to have the same thing going

[bright cape]

shield 1 kinda goes easily. but rest take a lot of time

raiden not working against the shield is so infurating

https://tenor.com/view/paimon-cute-genshin-meme-impact-gif-19899548

[crude dirge]

how much primos do i get from 100% of the farthest nod krai area with some steam tower thing

[late pebble]

Can someone tell me how it works.. do i select crit damage or what.. (lauma piece)

[rugged sparrow]

I wouldn't reshape that

[late pebble]

She already has 906 EM

Nvm her sands is only level 8.

I can make it 1k

[rugged sparrow]

it doesn't even have ER nor crit rate to make the cdmg more worthwhile

[late pebble]

Could u tell me the average cr needed for lauma

[rugged sparrow]

she basically doesn't need crit

just treat crit as a bonus

unless you have c6 Lauma

[late pebble]

I fear im broke..

[quaint fern]

Bro why did hyperbloom feel so bad against ducky

I swear that side took me like 1:40

[late pebble]

Shes on 4p deepwood

[rugged sparrow]

dendro aura
no EC

[quaint fern]

Well I was trying to not have dendro while ducky was there

[rugged sparrow]

idk then, it works fine for me

[quaint fern]

I think maybe my xq just didn't have enough energy

[rugged sparrow]

kill adds with EC then straight to hbloom

[quaint fern]

I was running like 184

[rugged sparrow]

solo hydro too?

[quaint fern]

Yeah

[rugged sparrow]

why do you hate yourself

[quaint fern]

Anyways with the grouping tech + better card I was able to do it. Thanks @viral mulch

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[quaint fern]

I am not looking forward to this stygian

Crab will probably be easy bc it's bloom shill

I'll probably try Skirk on the fatui guy

Which leaves me fuck all for drake

[rugged sparrow]

yeah your cryo only acc is bricked against Blightdrake I'm afraid

[strange scarab]

Looks like launa cant really fully utilize sms atm

not sure what to farm now

[quaint fern]

I mean I can try a second freeze team

Move Skirk to drake

Or if I don't need lauma on crab I can try lauma hyperbloom on drake

[bright cape]

i saw raiden clears for drake

with c2

can flinns do lunar damage without ineffa?

i might need him to clear this stygian

[valid anchor]

yes. You need a Hydro character for the reaction.

[quaint fern]

Probably an aino angle right?

Just so that you can get ascendant gleam

[bright cape]

yah

[opal surge]

bench flins until columbina angle

[bright cape]

i am kinda regretting not getting ineffa at the moment

i am pretty sure i can clear that crab with nahida

[bright cape]

the shield having HP thing was started with stygian only right?

previously u just had to apply sufficient U and shield would be over

[opal surge]

i dont know ive never done that fight outside of SO

[bright cape]

no i meant in abyss and overworld

shields used to be just element application

[opal surge]

no wards have always been that way

Wayobs for example idk

I cant tell you since when weve had wards though

[bright cape]

oh ok

[empty roost]

W?

[nova swift]

alright just hit 326 wishes

[supple crescent]

How does that work ?

[rugged sparrow]

finish 5 dailies per week over the course of 8 weeks

[supple crescent]

Makes no sense i completed one and didn't get a 1/8

[rugged sparrow]

one week?

[supple crescent]

Yea

[rugged sparrow]

??

[supple crescent]

I got 3 tests per week how tf do i got time for ts

[rugged sparrow]

focus on your studies instead?
or just do dailies 5x per week, if it's not counting then you didn't do it

[supple crescent]

Ig

[rugged sparrow]

it's over the course of 12 weeks anyway, if you missed 2 weeks you still have 10

[lyric cargo]

do you have one solid day where you can play a good bit?

dailies can only take a minute, but you need encounter points first
then can log in, craft 2x condensed resin at the alchemy table, claim daily commissions from katheryne, log out

[uncut herald]

What team to use for the aeonblight drake if there’s no citlali and no Chasca?

[fringe bear]

skirk double hydro works fine, or mualani mavuika etc

[uncut herald]

We were trying it with mono cryo Skirk and the m team did way worse but maybe we’re missing something in the rotation

[bright cape]

hi, do u have any tips for the 3rd boss?

[fringe bear]

do u have esco?

[fringe bear]

i used this team, got it 1st try

[uncut herald]

The mono Skirk was
Escoffier Shenhe/wrio - Skirk - Ganyu

Okay well give that a shot thank you

[fringe bear]

nonono use 2 hydro

[fringe bear]

it has to switch from cryo res to hydro, gl

[uncut herald]

Is that when the eyeball glows? Getting ready to absorb elements?

[fringe bear]

hello, from what i understand it's better to use electro onfielder, do u have varessa?

[bright cape]

no. only on-fielder i have is raiden

n keqing

[fringe bear]

i think raiden can clear with furina, try electrocharged teams, or teams with ineffa

[fringe bear]

u get the notification on the screen when certain element res is increased anyway)

[uncut herald]

What’s the Mualani Mavuika team? We can’t shoot it down!

[fringe bear]

mualani mavuika xilionen/iansan and cryo character to melt citlali/layla/ rosaria, esco etc
when hydro res increased stay on mavuika, when pyro des increased stay on mualani

[uncut herald]

What do people do when it flies though?! Can’t hit it

[fringe bear]

u just reset, u have to constantly apply element ( and switch element when previous was absorbed), if u fail it will fly, and there is no way to get it back

[uncut herald]

Okay we’ll try that thanks

[bright cape]

if i had ineffa, i think it's done

like always i might be pulling another dps

[candid fable]

is there a way to unlock the rest of this now or is everyone just hard stuck on the same thing?

[valid anchor]

It is supposed to be weekly, but, nothing yet. (?)

[raven raft]

Anyone else having trouble finding the mora chest in thr sanctum. Of the othkeeper area. It's not in the sanctum its not on the map its not under in the crevass on the right.

[fringe bear]

well if u have plans pulling for Flins, wait until his banner, maybe he's gonna be useful and try stygian afterwords

[bright cape]

yah. i will be doing that

[bright cape]

i just tested my teams and
i can clear 1 and 2 very easily

[fringe bear]

nice, just prepare some hydro and electro units that are still available in the meantime

[lyric cargo]

you do know it gainst 200% res against the element that damaged it the most?
so if you only have one element, that's most of your damage gone

[bright cape]

i am thinking of aino?

flinns aino sucrose fischl/ororon

[fringe bear]

she might be useful. depends on teams, anyway we will get some const for her next banner hopefully)

[bright cape]

now i think about it. may be i should hold

first two bosses use up xingqiu and furina

[uncut herald]

Yes but some how it still did the same dmg as the mauvika Mualani team 💀 we’re giving up aint no way we can do it. we’ve shuffled the teams too many times still 1/4 hp left minimum. Its so over

[fringe bear]

if u say first 2 were easy maybe u can allocate furina for 3d one, she might clear with raiden

[bright cape]

easy in the sense 1st boss is cleared with hyperbloom neuvillette

it will be rough and impossible to clear 1st without furina

[fringe bear]

just watch some YT clears and copy the rotations

[bright cape]

gonna stack tons of ER on aino and hope for the best

[fringe bear]

yeah she's fine, she can use new set)

[bright cape]

it's so stupid. i am collecting dps over dps every stygian patch

[fringe bear]

but this stygian u literally can use 2 dps for 1st boss, to apply 2 different elements, maybe u are actually smart

[uncut herald]

We can’t. 😭 I’m doing with 2 other people (rotationless) and if I did it myself then I don’t even have the same characters (cant copy). I might try it once by myself but I highly doubt I’ll be able to clear it since I couldn’t do the previous menacings either

[fringe bear]

plus you need more dps for IT

[bright cape]

the way i see it is a good dps can clear content with mediocre supports. other way around not quite

i don't even have ok dps. that's the main issue

like if i had ayaka, escoffier would have been fine

[fringe bear]

u can farm artifacts for 30+ days, use some potions, improve talents etc. and try again later, no need to rush

[fringe bear]

well good luck with your pulls then)

[bright cape]

thanks. i am gonna need them.

[viral mulch]

nice congrats

[clear ginkgo]

Is the onslaught event like last time that you get a pretty weapon for like 40 days or whatever at the higher difficulty?

[valid anchor]

same gifts from previous onslaught applies.

[nova swift]

Not as nice as you

[unkempt imp]

you should be able to beat it, like you use mauvika ult when its hydro weak, maulani ult when its pyro weak
you dont go on maulani during hydro weak, but you still need mauvika e skill for the pyro application when its pyro weakk

my mauvika is like bad so yours should do more damage

[muted valve]

can anyone please carry me through lvl 5 onslaught?

[elder bluff]

Why level 5? They provide no reward

[fathom hill]

Am i still able to get the free cons for this event even if i missed 3 days?

[royal verge]

8 weekly so 8 x 7 day is 56 days so you can get it

[brisk mural]

Yo can I get all the achievements in co op for the local legends in nod krai?
I'm talking the ones from the commission thin

[bright cape]

yes

[brisk mural]

Can someone confirm thos for me

[nova swift]

@prime laurel

[brisk mural]

[quaint fern]

my hyperbloom is just a bit too weak for drake 😔

[dense drum]

returning player here since 2022, never played the wood element but got this chick off my free pulls from logging in, is she good?

[novel charm]

Is nod krai chara would be mainly focus both em n crits? I just unlocked nod krai n i want to pre farm for flin

[cedar flint]

Flins want atk crit and em

since he probably focus on lunar charge like ineffa

and if his main source of dmg is lunar charge from passive atk goblet would be better if its atk scaling

but for now just farm it and keep any good looking pieces

[novel charm]

Think its better att sand att goblet or em sand att goblet? And thanks

[cedar flint]

I think atk atk

just by running him on the set + another character on the em set it’s already free 200 em

But maybe if you don’t have ineffa or run any attack buffers em sand might be considered

I didn’t see any calcs yet cus well he is not out so can’t say 100%

But lunar charge em scaling is lower than electro charge and I assume most of his dmg would be direct lunar charge from passive

Which won’t benefit from dmg%

[quaint fern]

yk considering that I'm moving furina a 50% increase in clear team isn't that big of a difference

I'll go back and shrink the crab clear time now that I dont think I have to play lauma hyperbloom

[dense drum]

What’s a good lauma team with these units?

[quaint fern]

lauma raiden barbara fischl YEP

[thorn bay]

Isn’t it too much electro?

[quaint fern]

I mean if they dont really have many other options unless they want to go xq

it should be fine tho

[dense drum]

I mean yeah i have them all c6

[quaint fern]

fischl wont target the cores directly

[dense drum]

what about this?

[quaint fern]

and yeah bloom happens first

so assuming there's EC going on, it should still bloom I think

@bright cape are you going to try d5?

[bright cape]

i can complete 1 and 2. don't have team for 3

either u need escoffier or ineffa

or decked out mavuika

i have none of those. so unless someone find a way to cheese,
my only way is to get flinns

[quaint fern]

aaaah

and you cant do skirk either without escoffier

have you tried xq/yelan furina charlotte skirk? assuming that your furina isnt used elsewhere?

aaah actually probably not enough dmg I'd guess

[violet cipher]

I have some idea of what I should put in team 2 and 3 but what should I put in team 1?
Should I put c3 Ororon over C4 Iansan?

[quaint fern]

just give iansan a shot?

idt ororon would be better?

but like I dont play chasca so frankly I dont really know

[violet cipher]

I have been, it's like 3-5% left

[quaint fern]

maybe try mav instead?

[violet cipher]

It's a little worse but I have been thinking of Mav replacing Bennet

[quaint fern]

actually have you tried shenhe?

[hazy lotus]

i've seen a lot of mavuika/mualani teams for aetherdrake with each filling the field time while the others element is res up

[quaint fern]

idk there's some funky teams where you use her

[viral mulch]

type of shi ppl pick after asking for coop help

[quaint fern]

LMAOOOO

[hazy lotus]

they know ur whale so they're trying to nerf u

[violet cipher]

Maybe? I didn’t think it’d be good because no Xilonen but I guess I can cope with sucrose or something.

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[neon harness]

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[forest venture]

col

[neon harness]

l

[strange scarab]

[neon harness]

🤭

[graceful kayak]

should i use kazuha instead of iansan c1 on mav team?

[fading zephyr]

guys I’m struggling so hard on chamber 3 2nd half 🫩🫩🫩

I’m running Bennett Xilonen Citlali Mavuika so obviously it’s not like I’m not dealing enough damage their builds are above average

[feral reef]

I do skirk with no effoc 😢

[fading zephyr]

The abyss enemies at the start keep putting up a pyro shield again and again and I’m watching other peoples Mavuika runs and the enemies aren’t sheilding for them

[graceful kayak]

maybe because they clear it so fast?
if u can't clear it fast enough try to break shield with citlali

[fading zephyr]

I’m copying their rotations and they just Bennett Q -> Xilo E -> Citlali E Q

And Mavuika q after

[graceful kayak]

first of all use mav e

then do the same rotation

[fading zephyr]

Won’t that ruin her melts

Because she applies off field

[graceful kayak]

i don't know if it would ruin the melt but i have seen many people use e first and i use it too

[fading zephyr]

I’ve also tried Bennet -> xilo -> Mavuika and just skipped the citlali application because I thought the enemies sheilded if u use cryo

But that didn’t work either so idk

[rugged sparrow]

if you get hit while having a shield by the pyro unit they'll shield

solution: don't get hit while having a shield

[fading zephyr]

ahhh

OH the Xilonen crystallise sheild

[rugged sparrow]

Citlali shield also

[fading zephyr]

Yeah I was confused on why it sheilded when I didn’t use citlali one time

[graceful kayak]

another new information
i didn't know that before

[fading zephyr]

Thanks u saved my life ❤️

[graceful kayak]

so once u use citlali e change directly to mav ult

[fading zephyr]

yeah hopefully I’ll be able to one shot without the melt

[cedar flint]

You melt on q either way even if you use skill first

that’s her actual correct combo as well

[fading zephyr]

Do u still melt her charged attacks after Q aswell tho

[rugged sparrow]

missing Citlali n1

[rugged sparrow]

yes, there's a combo for that

[fading zephyr]

ahhh

I normally do citlali e q into Mavuika q cax3 and then melt her final ca strike

[cedar flint]

her final slash that she does when you stop charge attacking should melt according to the combo

I think it was something like Q C3F C3F

[graceful kayak]

why n1 and when
before e or after?

[rugged sparrow]

EQn1
so Mavuika can melt her burst

EQ is just enough to wipe the pyro aura from Bennett Q

using n1 applies cryo on the enemy so Mav can melt her initial hit

[dusky oxide]

How much crit should a lauma have?

[elder bluff]

she doesn't require crit

[dusky oxide]

Oh is lunar bloom crit rate fixed then?

[rugged sparrow]

no but her Lunar Bloom (pre-c6) dmg contribution is pretty marginal

since it's coming from her hE and it's only once per rot (two if you're pushing it with Sac Frags)

it shouldn't be your main focus, but still nice to have

[dusky oxide]

Do I need to level up her ult or only skill?

[rugged sparrow]

both

[dusky oxide]

Thanks a bunch

[rugged sparrow]

skill scaling gives more res shred for dendro + hydro
ult scaling gives more flat dmg bonus to bloom-adjacent dmg

[supple crescent]

Yea but i only get one day dont i need 5

[cedar flint]

The point is play a bunch on your free day to get a lot of encounter points and just log in the rest of the 4 days by crafting 2 condensed every day dailies in this game shouldn’t take more than 5 minutes it’s something I sometimes do before sleep cus I didn’t have time to play that day

But if it feels like a chore and you still feel like you don’t want to invest those 5 minutes a day I’m afraid you will just have to give up on the event

it’s all about priorities and what makes you happier

[graceful kayak]

what boss should i try on mav teams???

[graceful kayak]

boss doesn't have advantage or res for pyro

[lyric cargo]

is this about stygian?

she fits best on the first

[crude dirge]

i think every boss has 10% pyro res without weakened form
or more

[graceful kayak]

so every boss work?(except pyro bosses)

[lyric cargo]

it's about the mechanics
the crab punishes you for bringing pyro
the third boss wants you to bring electro-charged

[crude dirge]

is he even talking about stygian

[lyric cargo]

no idea, they didn't reply

[graceful kayak]

i don't need it for stygian
i just need to know what best team i have for mav so i need to try on bosses

[lyric cargo]

if it's not about stygian, I don't know what the point is. just a damage recording?

[graceful kayak]

just for higher dmg

[lyric cargo]

there's a local legend that can give you massive buffs
it's kinda scuffed, though. the results are not exactly applicable to real scenarios

same for the scara weekly boss

I'd maybe do ASIMON (the automaton in south sumeru desert)
just because it doesn't fight back much

so you can practice combos

[graceful kayak]

ok.ty

[lyric cargo]

the boss that's made for ther is probably the pillar maker secret source automaton boss

but that's more about most other chars having some difficulty with it, than it being good for Mav

[proven orbit]

pls help me exp nodkrai fatui area to 90% i have it at 78% my uid is 880079762 asia wl 8 can i post it here or somewhere else can i

[cedar flint]

You can post it here tho I’m not in Asia

[rain sierra]

If you are on-fielding Lauma with Nahida, Aino/Xinqui and Kuki?

What artefacts would be best for her and what stats?

Would she then benefit from Ascendant Gleam?

Would level up her normals?

[rugged sparrow]

don't use Aino if you're playing hyperbloom team

either 4p Silken Moon's Serenade or 4p Deepwood, depending on what Nahida uses

no, you lose hyperbloom crit for more Lauma personal dmg that's insignificant (unless c6)

no

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[sick quarry]

You got good observation. Thanks.

[haughty lotus]

Not as good as you

[crude dirge]

do i try getting er sands and cd circlet that i have her beacon (will craft either of those in next patch)

beacon already gives almost an entire hp sands in passive

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[wicked gorge]

i need exalted buff for stygian, who can help?

[opal surge]

exalted buffs are serverwide

[verbal notch]

Can someone help me push siguard into the water? To get the 3 medals (done)

[wicked gorge]

i mean the stygian exclusive buff

[opal surge]

they are serverwide

[wicked gorge]

i dont have the buff tho

[opal surge]

its the units that got used the most across the server to clear dire with that get exalted

what difficulty are u doing

[wicked gorge]

dire

[opal surge]

there are no exalted characters in dire

[wicked gorge]

aha i see

sorry for the confusion

[crude dirge]

does dehyas c4 and c6 active with every hit or does she attack faster than every .2 seconds

[young sphinx]

what teams

My account is cooked

[fair urchin]

Guys can anyone guide me for lauma hyperbloom rotation
My team is lauma xingqiu kuki barbara
Lauma is on deepwood kuki on gilded and barbara on silken moon

Also if there is any lauma main here can u share your build

[bright cape]

for 100, u can simply coop

[young sphinx]

what about for the fearless

[hazy lotus]

no co op rewards for fearless

[rugged sparrow]

probs something like Xq EQ > Lauma Q hE > Kuki E(Q) > on-field Lauma
Barb can throw in some NA/E/Q occasionally

[bright cape]

nope

i was trying keqing, fischl, furina and xingqiu.
wasn't even close to breaking the shield

[rugged sparrow]

well it's Keqing

[forest venture]

ing

[bright cape]

i broke 2 and half shields

but i dunno if i will be able to kill even if I break the shield

[rugged sparrow]

most likely not

[bright cape]

i assume he gains the shield again after sometime

[hazy lotus]

yeah he does

[bright cape]

oh damn. then it was doomed from the start

[fair urchin]

Is there any place where I can test the rotations or find team rotations?

[hazy lotus]

at like around 30 seconds left on the timer in my experience

[rugged sparrow]

wdym

[bright cape]

with stygian, the game doesn't feel like genshin anymore

the combat used to be so much open

[hazy lotus]

feels really bad having a relatively limited roster in stygian

[fair urchin]

I mean how to get the perfect rotation 😭

[rugged sparrow]

it's hyperbloom

[hazy lotus]

i like to vertical invest but i feel kinda punished saving for cons instead of just pulling whatevers new for future content

[bright cape]

but i think u cleared fearless right?

my last two were barely cleared after pulling the shiny new unit

[hazy lotus]

yeah i can clear fearless through some level of bruteforce but i can still feel how bad it feels not having enough variety to get thru the mechanics

[bright cape]

may be it will get easier as i build my teams

i think having a good dps in every element is a start

[rugged sparrow]

narrator: "it will not"

[bright cape]

i see varesa havers easily clearing 3rd boss

even without electro charged

i do have good obsidian pieces left over

[rugged sparrow]

do you have Varesa

[bright cape]

no

[rugged sparrow]

.

[bright cape]

i meant those who pulled good dps in natlan are still clearing.

i pulled for raiden
feels kinda dumb now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304540031980933201/1389286008561864906/fufufatwae.gif

[rugged sparrow]

I mean there'll come a day where Varesa is rendered useless

in SO

[hazy lotus]

tbf that was long enough ago u can’t really blame urself for it

half of my dps roster doesn’t do much these days

[rugged sparrow]

who'd know that Genshin just stops caring about balance post-Sumeru

[bright cape]

i dunno if it's even balance

they used to release very bad kit back then

[rugged sparrow]

can't really win as hoyo

[hazy lotus]

raidens kit isn’t really bad it just doesn’t hit modern day dps standards esp without cons

[rugged sparrow]

release chars on relative same power level = "very bad kit"
release new chars that powercreep older chars = "I hate this game system"

pick a struggle bro

[bright cape]

by bad i mean like not even same power level

they used to do that quite often

[rugged sparrow]

"quite often" and it's only Yoimiya

[hazy lotus]

the fatui guy is prob clearable with c2+ raiden

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

sigweinne

[rugged sparrow]

Raiden E cannot dmg the shield and 0 energy start

[rugged sparrow]

Sigewinne is Furina's bis pairing

[hazy lotus]

oh nvm then she’s chopped

[rugged sparrow]

if you run a double hydro setup

[hazy lotus]

forgot about the classic raiden e shield dilemma

[bright cape]

i thought it was neuvi

[rugged sparrow]

not like a Neuv team

[bright cape]

yah. even fav n sac don't proc.

[rugged sparrow]

but Furina + Sige + 2

[forest venture]

if only her buffs do not limit to 10 hits from the whole team

[rugged sparrow]

ye complete kit locked behind DLC

same as Wrio

[bright cape]

despite that, i am not fan of buffing old characters

what do u guys think?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean ZZZ and HSR does it

Genshin for some weird reason doesn't but wcyd

[hazy lotus]

genshin seems to prefer the “if u want to buff old char pull for new support that makes them relevant again” formula

but then that’s not really future proof either

[rugged sparrow]

mfw newer DPS does 30x more DPS with the new supports

[bright cape]

there will always be new low with the buffs.
so i dunno how to feel about it

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

someone is gonna get left out

[rugged sparrow]

better than having everyone left out

[bright cape]

and dps floor requirement might be raised that makes buff irrelevant

[rugged sparrow]

I mean dps floor has been raised

and we're not getting buffs

so

[bright cape]

how about having two floors?

say dps floor changes for stygian pre sumeru and post-sumeru units

[rugged sparrow]

fr

[forest venture]

im gonna pull c1 sigewinne

[rugged sparrow]

back to c12 Ayaka era

[bright cape]

i don't want it to be easy as fuck though

[rugged sparrow]

🗣️ 🔥

[bright cape]

like pre-sumeru will have to sweat

but doable

[opal surge]

simply play chasca

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca surely is future proof right...

[bright cape]

the times i have tried chasca, she feels even more braindead than neuvillette

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

absolutely. all she needs is good PHEC off-fielders

[rugged sparrow]

let's see how this statement age in 2-3 years

[bright cape]

and stygian as hoyo said is mostly gonna be single target focussed

[opal surge]

chasca doesnt do enough damage to be future proof

[forest venture]

phec dps:
30000
30000
Immune
30000

[opal surge]

the reality at c0 is that she takes the 3 best characters in the game as supports and barely does 1mil dpr

[rugged sparrow]

it's ok Mav covers the other 1m DPR

[opal surge]

that being said I have no doubt in my mind that I will be able to clear all 3 fearless sides in nodkrai with chasca

[rugged sparrow]

WRATH FROM THE SKY

[opal surge]

without overlapping supports

(but i have chasca vertical )

[rugged sparrow]

just scam and say "c0r1 Chasca"

[opal surge]

i will adopt the chinese tactic and call my characters 0+0

but they're wearing r5 aqua

but its not their sig so technically...

[rugged sparrow]

HAHAH

@opal surge also this is taking me longer than I'd like to admit

I basically spent half a day to 65k it before reset

[opal surge]

thats pretty big though

[rugged sparrow]

65k Fiend before HP inflation hits again

I find it kinda funny that most CCs have stopped posting 65k DA kills ~6 cost after this DA

[young sphinx]

i mean like what teams shoukd i use for fearless

[bright cape]

how does genshin compare to zzz in terms of powercreep in say past year or two?

[rugged sparrow]

ZZZ powercreep is kinda horrendous seeing it's only 1 year in

it took Genshin 3 years before we see noticeable powercreep (starting from Fontaine)

[bright cape]

i don't like to see it from the start

at that time the competition from other gachas were not significant

i think no game can keep powercreep as tame as genshin
and expect the players to pull the units

[quaint fern]

Oh yeah my c2 Furina hard carried

[rugged sparrow]

poggies

[quaint fern]

Wait did I not share it here

[rugged sparrow]

idts

[quaint fern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/422455640158633984/1418102842517885008/image.png?ex=68cd8f70&is=68cc3df0&hm=bc3964a3fe7c041ccc15942a55465c12cf7eef8d4c78731809db0a7227c1c85d&

[rugged sparrow]

Furigoat

[idle thistle]

I recently managed to get both Lauma and Nahida, but I am unsure what teams I can build for bloom cause I do not have Nilou or Kokomi, what other hydro units could I run instead? I have Neuvillette, Furina, Yelan, Xingqiu, Barbara, Aino, Candace, and Dahlia. The team I am currently using is Barbara (full EM), Lauma, Nahida, and Xingqiu/Yelan.

Is it possible for me to do bloom, or should I just stick with hyperbloom teams.

[bright cape]

i am surprised skirk worked

[rugged sparrow]

pure bloom team is garbage without Nilou

stick to hyperbloom

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[rugged sparrow]

sshh

surely it was Furi carry

[cedar flint]

ye bloom sucks without bountiful cores

[quaint fern]

Yeah I was told it was freezable

[bright cape]

it would be awesome if we could freeze him from the start

making him unable to get a shield at all

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/954905901289062450.webp?size=56

[quaint fern]

I think I started my stygian at like 8:30ish last night and finished around 10:20?

I spent like the first 90-100 min jus trying to get my crab clear w/o lauma and then trying lauma hyperbloom on drake

And then I got frustrated and checked how fast my Skirk clear was

[bright cape]

but u ultimately did use lauma

[quaint fern]

But I had plenty of time remaining

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/422455640158633984/1418096860517765205/image.png?ex=68cd89de&is=68cc385e&hm=8d25fce95a5d8c95a0637e35d25de24c016d8f2341e983e75ae31783bc4b5457&

I thought the boss would be tankier

[bright cape]

oh i see

[quaint fern]

So I was like okay wait I can move Furina to drake and not try lauma hyperbloom

Which freed up lauma for a faster crab

[rugged sparrow]

70k hyperbloom 🗣️ 🔥

[bright cape]

i don't think they intended skirk to be able to clear 3rd boss

it feels like hack

[rugged sparrow]

probs could be higher if I properly use Gilded/FoPL on her

[quaint fern]

I feel like as long as your Skirk is well built with r1 you should be able to clear with 1/2.5 supports

Shenhe isn't really that much better than the other options

So as long as you have Furina or esco free you should be fine

I have a feeling that citlali would be fine with double hydro

[bright cape]

after i get a good electro and anemo dps, stygian is done for

[quaint fern]

But idk how the boss works really

You need big hits right?

[bright cape]

or lunar charged

/electrocharged

[quaint fern]

Or just a lot of hits? My Skirk burst basically teared through 1.5 of the fatui shields

It's a ward right? So it should be dmg based

And it favors high motion value bc you can't react off of it (?)

[bright cape]

yep. i have seen clears and it feels completely bruteforced

the shield heals. that's it

[quaint fern]

So either have high mv or use LC

Yeah idk how the healing works tbh with you

[opal surge]

@rugged sparrow what if I became a thumbnail artist

[rugged sparrow]

HAHAHA

[quaint fern]

TRIPLE SCROLL

IM ON THE FLOOR

[rugged sparrow]

THE LION DOESN'T CONCERN HIMSELF WITH insert plat medal

[quaint fern]

I mean based

I don't either, I already have linted enough sanity

[rugged sparrow]

THE BIG 3 MENTIONED IN 2025 🗣️ 🔥

[quaint fern]

DOKTUA YOU NEED YOUR SANITY POTIONS

Also what is that alhaitham sneak

[opal surge]

[brisk mural]

Nahida sig any good for mizuki?

[hazy lotus]

i used him this stygian (i had no other dendro options)

lauma was talent level 1 with no artifacts i have no excuse for the fatui one im just bad at the game

[opal surge]

c6 c4 c6

[rugged sparrow]

it's an EM stat stick so

[opal surge]

what the

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[opal surge]

[hazy lotus]

i saved for those that’s why i have no characters 😭

[rugged sparrow]

I mean ppl call him big3 since forever for no reason

other than him being green and filling the RGB pattern of top3 DPS

(they refuse to play Xiao)

[opal surge]

thats kinda based

did you go into fontaine with like 100k primos or

[fervent elm]

hi , sorry can someone help me with co-op boss achievement please?

[quaint fern]

Wait but he's good

[opal surge]

the double c6 in fontaine

[quaint fern]

I love running 4 vv fav Xiao

[rugged sparrow]

Xiao with Xianyun mogs haitham but wcyd

[rugged sparrow]

SO REAL

[opal surge]

ah wai tno furina is c4 im stupid

[hazy lotus]

i had like 500 or so pulls at start of arle banner i think

furina was over like 3 banners

[opal surge]

[brisk mural]

Mizuki doesn't need much er right

[bright cape]

i got so excited after seeing no ineffa at a glance.
but c6 yelan

jumpscare

[rugged sparrow]

dont actually remember her ER reqs but prioritize burst off cooldown

[bright cape]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-scared-chibi-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-gif-10067624903072802581

[brisk mural]

Her ult cost 60 and I only got 106 er on her 🥀 I can't get any er stats
I migjt just use the event weapon on her

[rugged sparrow]

u should ye

[brisk mural]

Let me try strong box one last time

[rugged sparrow]

Nahida's sig is only like what, 100-ish more EM than Etherlight

but ig u need that EM if you run her with Furina

[brisk mural]

Idk if I'm gonna sue furina with her

Since furina is with skirk

[rugged sparrow]

are you playing Mizuki just because you like her or

[brisk mural]

I can't get an em circlet

[brisk mural]

Just because I like her
I was gonna slap her in an electro charge team
(I only build characters I like)

[rugged sparrow]

fair enough

not much hydro option for her other than Furina

[brisk mural]

How much er does she even need

Like 130 or sum?
Her ult is only 60

Got an em circlet but it has no er 🥀

[opal surge]

itll depend on the team but around 160

if fav furina

[rugged sparrow]

what EC team do you even play with her without Furi

Aino surely

[brisk mural]

I'm about to craft an em circlet bruh

With nahida sig she has 782 em

And 741 with the event weapon

[autumn fern]

hello! has anyone not supported a user in the event? if so plz DM me to help out! Ill help in return if so

[bright cape]

@opal surge I found a way to break his shield twice. from a YT video

but dps is just out of reach

the guy had better artifacts and xilonen's signature

[quaint fern]

Do you need kuki?

Oro might be better?

[bright cape]

i am trying with fischl and it's going better

i dunno if I can burst ororon every so often

[quaint fern]

Yeah fair

I would expect that it's just more dmg from fish than kuki

[bright cape]

if I had a good weapon like harp, this would be done

[quaint fern]

I assume Furina is just busy elsewhere?

[bright cape]

neuvi is just strong enough to break the shield with dmg bonus from xilonen and kazuha

with one electro doing electro charge every now n then

[quaint fern]

Yeah idk why don't you try swapping out kazuha

He's probably the weakest link there considering that you already can break the shield

[bright cape]

for who?

[opal surge]

furina is busy clearing side 2?

[bright cape]

furina won't work.

she requires burst to give dmg bonus to neuvi

kazuha just needs swirl

n sometimes accidentally he double swirls too

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

most of the shield breaking is done by hyper neuvi

[bright cape]

i searched no ineffa stygian and found this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUomtPnj5a0

i dunno how this guy is reaching 80-90k ticks

mine's c0 and i barely touch 70k

[clear ginkgo]

calamity of eshu... genshin event weapon... who can use it? Ive heard ayato but i have black sword on him.

[quaint fern]

Oh wait you can't trigger fav on the ward... RIGHT

AAAAA

[bright cape]

skirk

[quaint fern]

Only w citlali or dahlia tho

[opal surge]

I can break the ward with neuvi furina and neuvilette might be the worst in this server

have u tried furina?

[bright cape]

what team?

i can try it

[opal surge]

hmm actually its kind of inconsistent for me

neuv furina xilo ororon

[bright cape]

i think i am not swirling correctly.

sometimes fischl's electro overpowers. sometimes pyro comes weirdly

[quaint fern]

Pyro

Is that from the fauti guy???

Kazuha is channeling his inner sucrose and infusing the most random element ever

[opal surge]

@bright cape your neuvilette can for sure do it

[lyric cargo]

I cleared with that team as well

not sure what my difficulty on day 1 was

was first attempt when I tried today

my investment's a bit higher ofc

[opal surge]

but ur not r1 right?

they're c1r1 neuv iirc

[bright cape]

yah. mine's c1 r1

[opal surge]

oh also since u mentioned mavuika c2 being a joker for fearless, chasca c2 is the same (for now)

[clear ginkgo]

ah dont have

[clear ginkgo]

ah dont have either of those.

[bright cape]

@opal surge @lyric cargo

i didn't know furina worked that well

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

instead of xilonen, should I use kazuha?

i don't have a good nighsould character for aeonblight

[opal surge]

you can try i dont personally like using kazuha when I can use xilonen instead

if you need to free xilonen you can probably make it work with kazuha though

[lyric cargo]

nah, Neuv is on r5 Widsith. Furina, Xilo are on r5 fav. Fischl Skyward

[bright cape]

what would be a good first team?

[opal surge]

raiden overload maybe? with xiangling?

Or maybe even with mavuika, and raiden starts

[bright cape]

is that enough dps with c0 raiden?

i got c6 chevy, bennett remaining

[opal surge]

Im not sure but it strikes me as your best bet

[bright cape]

ok thanks

i am pretty sure if i do 1 and 3, 2 is possible

[opal surge]

yeah you have lauma it should be trivial

oh wait

navia bennett mavuika xilonen might actually be your best bet @bright cape

[bright cape]

that was my original plan. by removing xilonen from 3rd boss.

but lemme try raiden chev xiangling bennett first

[opal surge]

yeah if raiload doesnt clear u can prolly try to free xilonen

[bright cape]

that team is heavy on pyro damage. so i dunno if i can do it well

[opal surge]

navia mav feels pretty trivial i just tested it

would definitely need xilo though

[brisk mural]

Any whales here

[quaint fern]

I don't believe we have many resident whales here

Are you on the same server as @viral mulch ?

[valid anchor]

hmm... depend on your definition of whale

[bright cape]

what is a good rotation for that?

i tried mavuika e, bennett e, xilonen e, mavuika donuts
mavuika e, bennett e, xilonen e and navia normals.
it doesn't clear by few seconds

my navia build is pretty bad. she's using melusine sword

[main talon]

Guys, What is the better choice? c4 itto or c1 baizhu? I got high cons for itto before since I was maining him, but with the current abyss and nodkrai stuff im not using him that much. Thats why I think c1 baizhu (who will heal much faster). But I also think c4 itto is also good due to the increase in def. I cannot decide. Is c1 baizhu the better choice? Thank you

[late ivy]

hey guys, how do i improve my chasca?

[bright cape]

isn't that too much crit rate on her?

u should share ur full enka build

[late ivy]

not running the 4pc..

my bow is a cr bow which explains the cr...thats the best i have for her.. childes bow

[bright cape]

damn. then getting a full set would be a nice starting place

[late ivy]

i can get a full set its just that...i would have so much cr and abit less crt dmg

[brisk mural]

Chat I don't have an electro charge team for floor 12 1st half gimme some teams

[bright cape]

then u can plan accordingly

try to get low crit rate rolls, choose crit dmg circlet etc

max u want to go with her is 60

[chrome cypress]

hi! i just pulled C1 lauma from a double (YAY!) and tried to get her weapon but ended up getting nahidas

i have nahida c0 and was gonna use her with lauma, but should i give nahidas weapon to nahida or lauma?

[hazy lotus]

gl with that bro 33+40+5 means ur starting with 78 cr without any subs

[brisk mural]

I'm gonna try skirk freeze for 1st half man

[topaz inlet]

Yo I need help, so I was doing the infiltrate fatui nod krai world quest where I need the khuvakki powers from the bot to jump high, the problem is rather clearing the obstacles for the bot to go through, I might have gone detour and end up stuck in the small space between the containers, any usefull tips to get it out?

oh nvm, tp out and went back resets it

[chrome cypress]

anyone know?

[finite parrot]

Long nights oath or obsidian codex for Varessa ???

I only have widsith weapon R5

[sick quarry]

What are the talent levels for Lauma?

[bright cape]

@opal surge @quaint fern @lyric cargo finally it happened.

[quaint fern]

LETS GOOOOO

holy that mavuika clear was super close

[bright cape]

yah. it took more than 3 hours

i had to swap navia's build multiple times

she was missing crit so much

n 2nd boss was 1st try. i played so lousily n it still worked

[quaint fern]

huh that's true she doesnt really ahve any great options here if you dont have nighttime

yeah I feel like it would have been way easier for you if you had better weapons on them

[bright cape]

i tried petra + atk -> glad -> atk + troupe -> golden troupe

finally golden troupe worked the best

[quaint fern]

I feel like atk troupe would have worked better

maybe just your artifacts

[bright cape]

yah. not a lot of options. fischl took some with her

[bright cape]

true. so I have strongboxed a lots of nighttime today

just waiting on fodder now

i dunno how people have so much artifact exp

[quaint fern]

yeah I cba to do the farming routes

[bright cape]

i guess u feed a lot of bad artifacts

i tend to hold on to some even when i don't use

now i think i can skip flinns

for may be varesa or ineffa

[dense drum]

hiya, my only sustainers for my lauma team are jean and diona, would diona be better since i have her c6?

[elder bluff]

lauma doesn't need diona

[dense drum]

...

it says i need a healer for hyperbloom tho

and this one gives 200 em so thats like kinda good right?

[elder bluff]

hyperbloom never needs a healer

[dense drum]

then why do they suggest Kuki? im so lost

am i on the wrong website?

[elder bluff]

kuki is there because she activates the hyperbloom

and hyperbloom teams stay close to enemies, likely to be hit so kuki fulfills the role of healing

[dense drum]

idk what team to use then

[neon wave]

Kuki is a good hyperbloom trigger who happens to be a healer, but you don't necessarily need a healer for hyperbloom (though obv it helps with survivability).

Lauma Xingqiu Kuki + 1 is fine, Fischl would be your best option.
You can run Raiden too instead of Kuki, but you wouldn't have any sustain

[dense drum]

ok thanks

[late basin]

I cannot for the life of me figure out how to clear the fatui guy, I’ve got pretty good builds on everyone ignore the chasca I was testing something but has anyone got any tips

[neon harness]

@strange scarab u pulling monst3r?

[strange scarab]

Yeah
didnt went so well, had to spend like 190 pulls

[neon harness]

woah

[strange scarab]

got 4 standard dupes and a stainless

[neon harness]

aint exusai banner coming up in like a month tho, u stull have enough savings

[strange scarab]

Well i still have plenty yellow rock yes

Like 210 pulls rn

im still malding over the hard pity

[neon harness]

wait 210 and u still dont have her

[strange scarab]

No i got her

[neon harness]

😭 oh

[strange scarab]

I have 210 pulls left

[neon harness]

ah that makes sense, btw did u see the ines skin

slightly tempted

[strange scarab]

Im thinking of buying ines skin

[strange scarab]

lol i was typing that

[neon harness]

🤭

[strange scarab]

I dont know which one is better between the two live2d skin she has

Maybe i should get both

[neon harness]

🤔 one is giving mommy and one is giving queen, i might wait for the other one but im loving the vibes and butterflies of the one in shop rn

[neon harness]

shushsicles

[small blade]

meow

[lyric cargo]

do you happen to have Escoffier + Citlali?

I assume no, but I'm interested in what your Drake time is with Mav Ben Esco Cit

(it's what I used, but my Mav is c2r1. it could be you can't even clear with it)

[lyric cargo]

seems like a no

[viral mulch]

good job

@rugged sparrow fearless almost solo

[rugged sparrow]

scamlo

[viral mulch]

drake gimmick 😔

[rugged sparrow]

Single Elemental Damage 👎

atp u might as well scam solo with Chasca

[viral mulch]

at least the run is no dmg taken

[rugged sparrow]

and clear in 10s probably

[viral mulch]

too scam

id rather accept its a duo

its 4 char for 3 boss vs 6 char

[rugged sparrow]

true

also I ran out of encounter points again

ig I'll start exploring tomorrow...

[rugged sparrow]

got my final dust from 1.2k resin

now on what piece I'm gonna waste it on

pretty poggers Lauma piece

[lyric cargo]

my Fischl before and after this Stygian, btw
tiny little bit more ER

she stole Escoffier's flower

[fair urchin]

I need help with making floor 12 abyss teams for this cycle

[slow carbon]

So, I pulled for Lauma, since I had Nahida. Then, I pulled for Nahida's weapon and got it and tried my luck with getting Nilou. I honestly did not expect to get Nilou (since I am an F2P player) but now I have her, what should I do with my teams?
My setup for my two teams was:

Sukokomon: Kokomi, Yae Miko, Mona, Sucrose
Hyperbloom: Nahida, Xingqui, Shinobu, Yelan

How should I use my new characters, do I have to ditch hyperbloom and just go for bloom instead? Should I ditch my sukokomon team so that I'd have a team consisting of: Lauma, Nilou, Nahida, and Kokomi instead? Advice would be much appreciated.

[lyric cargo]

hmm, if you asked before doing it I would've said not to get Nahida if you have Lauma
she pretty much replaces her in a lot of teams
and Nilou is a bit questionable with the main endgame content now being mostly single target

it'll do well against the crab, but not sure about the future

[lyric cargo]

do I have to ditch hyperbloom and just go for bloom instead?
the Sukokomon team seems like something from Inazuma era, yeah. I'd disassemble that

Kokomi, Lauma, Nahida, Nilou is your best option

[lyric cargo]

for some team options to run alongside that, do you have a screenshot of your char pool?

[slow carbon]

wait lemme screenshot it

[elder bluff]

arle xq yelan fischl 1st half
lauma nahida kokomi barbara 2nd half

[lyric cargo]

first half:
Neuv, Furina, [kazuha], Fischl / Ororon
I used Xilonen here instead of kaz, but it seems you don't have her yet

second half: Navia, Bennett, Xiangling, [Kachina]
Xilo would be preferred here as well

or: Chasca, Bennett, Xiangling, Iansan
for Chasca team options, you're missing Citlali and Escoffier

[slow carbon]

should i invest in arle?

[neon harness]

Yes

[lyric cargo]

I would.
Arle and Hutao can be used on separate sides, as Hutao doesn't necessarily need Bennett

pick up some hydro off-fielders, imo. Both Hutao and Lauma want them. (Furina?)

[slow carbon]

When Furina does rerun, I do plan to pull on her because I do need more off field hydro application

[lyric cargo]

maybe Columbina falls in that category as well. we don't know what she'll do at all yet, of course, or her element.
just based on potentially working with Lauma or Ineffa teams, a hydro support or dps seems likely

basically just keep an eye out when we learn what she does

[slow carbon]

So who should I invest in more right now?

[lyric cargo]

oh, you do have Yelan. So the hydro off-fielder situation isn't terrible

[lyric cargo]

for the first 10 days of stygian, we get bonus a artifact for every 120 resin spent there
so I'd use it all there for now

after that's over, leveling Arle's talents
also, Yelan lvl90 at some point. she's an hp scaler, so level matters

[slow carbon]

Which artifact set though?

[lyric cargo]

it depends, but I'd go for a combination where you need both sets
for cases where you need just a single set, I'd strongbox

good set combinations are:

• the new nod-krai sets
• Codex + Scroll, if you have a natlan on-fielder
• Marechaussee + Golden Troupe, if you have Furina or Neuvilette

[fair urchin]

Would lauma help anywhere if this abyss boosts her value?

[strange scarab]

first half

[slow carbon]

Based on these sets, I think the only one applicable to my characters is the new nod-krai sets for lauma (i think)

[lyric cargo]

you can use her with Neuv, she'll be kinda like Kazuha I think?

she'd prevent electro-charge against the cactus, though, I think?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it'll probably be good
not quite yet, since there's only one nod-krai char on the team

[strange scarab]

just hit it hard enough 🗿

[fair urchin]

I'll try both teams first

[lyric cargo]

Lauma has a passive that buffs bloom if there's 1 nod-krai char (herself)
and lunar bloom if there are two

so with two nod-krai chars, she's kinda a lunar bloom support looking for lunar blooms to buff and not finding any but her own hold skill

[fair urchin]

Btw what does normally neuv ticks with furina kazuha xilonen buff?

Is 50-60k good without xilonen? Ororon is there

[lyric cargo]

it depends, enka cards are a better measure of build quality than the size of the ticks

on the first stygian boss, I did ~40k ticks with r5 widsith inactive and ~55k with it active
(but my Neuv is c1 and my Furina is c1 and I was using Escoffier Layla which isn't his usual team..)

[slow carbon]

So, what teams do you recommend me to use based on my characters?

[fair urchin]

I haven't improved him yet as I was focusing on newer units. I can maybe make a custom artifact for him if needed

[lyric cargo]

these are good, but I'd use Nilou over Barbara
I think Alice didn't see Nilou (?)

[lyric cargo]

nah, that's good. the plume not as much, but I wouldn't craft for that. just maybe farm more MH GT domain at some point

[elder bluff]

no I didn't see her

[lyric cargo]

Nilou wants lvl90 as well, btw. she's an hp scaler

@slow carbon

[fair urchin]

I think the hp is a bit less? What's the minimum hp for him? Currently I don't have any immediate need for mh gt so going for deepwood domain

[strange scarab]

i forgot theres tulpa when i brought lauma bloom

[slow carbon]

so HP% on all her artifacts then?

[strange scarab]

ye

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[slow carbon]

Thank you so much @lyric cargo and @elder bluff for the teams and advice

[lyric cargo]

hp versus dmg% is probably an optimizer thing, depending on substats

let me check if he has a passive that wants a certain hp breakpoint

[lyric cargo]

I don't see one in his kit

[lyric cargo]

so yeah, it's very close and likely depends on substats

[lyric cargo]

more crit rate would be good, try to get ~100% CR after buffs
I think you're at 90.8% right now

the plume is the only piece where you can realistically get more CR without swapping to a CR circlet

[fair urchin]

Okay I'll try to get better rolls on plume or get a new piece. Thanks

[lyric cargo]

or focus on other chars first, that's entirely valid as well

[fair urchin]

Okay thanks✨

[fiery wigeon]

Do you have crit on nahida?

[rugged sparrow]

is that a general question or

directed to someone specifically

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah I wanna know because allota ppl say they do or don't

[rugged sparrow]

it kinda depends but in most of her ideal teams she does build crit

[fiery wigeon]

Like whats better 800em with crit ratio or 1100EM with none

Or let's say a bloom team with nilou

[rugged sparrow]

800 EM with good crit should be better

[rugged sparrow]

in Niloom Nahida prefers crit cuz

1. dendro aura should be dominant so her bloom ownership is low
2. the hydro unit(s) should be running 1k (or higher) EM so Nahida's EM transfer on ult is capped from them instead of Nahida herself

it's usually aggravate/spread teams that prefer Nahida reaching higher EM threshold

but ofc ideally you have both EM + crit still since Nahida still contributes to dmg

[lyric cargo]

I will say that in Nod-Krai teams, it could be that the "nod-krai resonance" buff scales off her EM
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Team_Bonus#Moonsign
making full EM Nahida possibly more optimal than before

it used to be that either was about equally viable, with EM being slightly better for off-field Nahida

[lyric cargo]

afaik she preferred EM just in case she triggers some blooms, and also because she's off-field if she's not solo dendro (?)

[rugged sparrow]

in Niloom double dendro her bloom ownership is effectively like 4 cores

[lyric cargo]

my most up to date nilou bloom knowledge comes from this sumeru era guide, though
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13LNlnxmSk4pZw-1O-4f2d8QfHgLVmPxrtN-iN774SGc/mobilebasic

[rugged sparrow]

she gets better mileage by building crit there but it's not a dealbreaker or anything

[fiery wigeon]

Hmm so let's say i have Xingqui yelan and Nilou, do I rebuild yelan and xingqui yo have 1kem?

[rugged sparrow]

triple hydro Niloom?

[lyric cargo]

in most cases I'd just have said "go with whatever has the better pieces, between EM/EM/EM or EM / dendro% / crit"

[rugged sparrow]

most of the time you just go EM/EM/Crit anyway, good balance for either situations

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah, I tried putting baizhu there instead of yelan but I couldnt clear abyss with him there

[rugged sparrow]

since Nahida also converts EM to dmg%

[rugged sparrow]

p. amber Nahida I'm guessing?

[lyric cargo]

I'd replace either Xq or Yelan for a healer

[rugged sparrow]

0 healer in triple hydro Niloom is kinda masochistic lmao

[lyric cargo]

I guess bloom self dmg was nerfed, but idk if it's to the point that p-amber is enough

it's 40% of what it used to be I think?

[rugged sparrow]

but yes

[fiery wigeon]

It is but it work because nahida had most of thr field time and yelans ult takes 3 years , I also tried nahida, kokomi, yelan, Nilou and this works but thr damage output is mid

[rugged sparrow]

Niloom team dictates that every member of the team requires EM (especially the hydro units)

[fiery wigeon]

Hmm interesting so I rebuild xingqui for ER/EM EM

Yk what you convinced me imma ball

[rugged sparrow]

if you have Xiphos you can use that on him and run triple EM and pray it's enough

or run Sac Sword + triple EM

[fiery wigeon]

Oh what

[rugged sparrow]

no idea either

[fiery wigeon]

Lmaon

Wait lemme try something

Coc

[lyric cargo]

this was basically what I'd heard, but it's old
https://keqingmains.com/nahida/

[rugged sparrow]

ah

[fiery wigeon]

Ahhh it musta auto corrected lmao

I meant as in koko I'm just brain rotted

[rugged sparrow]

yes read the last sentence

"difference in fairly minimal"

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's what I was saying?
EM better, but it really depends on substats?

[lyric cargo]

here

[rugged sparrow]

that's what I was saying too

[rugged sparrow]

.

idk why you pointing out smth that I already said

[lyric cargo]

I thought you were saying "crit better but difference is minimal" ^^

[rugged sparrow]

I mean I think the misconception is crit Nahida = dendro goblet

[lyric cargo]

yeah, those are independent

[rugged sparrow]

but you just run this

[lyric cargo]

anyways, previously I was running this because it's not worth farming for her small dmg contribution

[fiery wigeon]

Alright so imma have Nahida with like 50 crit rate and 800 something EM rn because my luck on deep wood is emblem set level of difficulty, xingqui abouta recieve the Raiden treatment but run emblem on EM then kokomi with atleast like 650 em since well idk if I should put sac frags on her and make it 800em then nilou with 69710 hp because yet again artifact luck is my final boss and I cant max her passive

[lyric cargo]

now if she were the only non-nodkrai char on a team I might get her EM / EM / EM for the team resonance

[rugged sparrow]

Sac Frags is indisputably bis on Kokomi for Niloom

[lyric cargo]

ignore the weapon, it was before I learned not to pull 5-star weapons for chars without majority team dmg share

[rugged sparrow]

due to multitude of reasons

[fiery wigeon]

I would think mostly her Stupid ER requirements for her ult and the passive

[rugged sparrow]

it's also the E reset for repositioning

massive qol

[fiery wigeon]

Oh yeah so true its annoying that she doesnt just have fichls e

[viral mulch]

e

[rugged sparrow]

e

[fiery wigeon]

a

Sports its in the game

[elder bluff]

now it is in the gacha

[fiery wigeon]

Ngl tho it funny how fichls ability to reposition her turret power creeps kokomi in allot of teams

[rugged sparrow]

they're not really 1:1 comparable

one is hydro one is electro

[fiery wigeon]

Or should I say feel way more cozy

[elder bluff]

fischl e is what ifa e should have been

[viral mulch]

furina 3:1 comparable

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh tho fichl is mid IMO before c6 just because that ability to have budget raiden with more damage

[rugged sparrow]

TRUE

[elder bluff]

but alas, he follows mizuki instead

[rugged sparrow]

I think you're underestimating how much dmg Fischl contributes

especially in agg teams where it's make or break

[crimson plover]

fischl is there for the a4 dmg

[viral mulch]

a4 paper

[crimson plover]

agg teams are basically fischl teams

[rugged sparrow]

agg teams (assuming c0 5-stars) just don't exist without Fischl

[viral mulch]

budget doing more dmg
whos the budget now

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh in nahida hyper bloom I ran nahida, kuki, xingqui, (who ever fell out of the shoe box)

[fiery wigeon]

Exactly lol, I have raiden and her signature and shes been benched for around 3 major patches now

[rugged sparrow]

Riden

[viral mulch]

i like how abyss usage rates revived raiden cus cn is big neuvglazers and so brainrotted that they cant even be bothered pressing e or q once every rot anymore

[elder bluff]

ayaya

[rugged sparrow]

HYPERFRIDGE 🗣️ 🔥

[viral mulch]

roiden

[crimson plover]

ayaya was ass to play in 2.0, is still ass to play

[elder bluff]

or should I say E.U.L.A

[fiery wigeon]

Like raidens damage is like ah yes here's 250k that natlan character can do in 3 seconds by tapping e

[fiery wigeon]

Eula agreement

[crimson plover]

then just build her full em as hb trigger

[rugged sparrow]

basically any unit pre-Fontaine

[elder bluff]

but agreement is already in Eula

[rugged sparrow]

[fiery wigeon]

So true

[viral mulch]

best raiden team is lauma hyperbloom

[rugged sparrow]

so true

[viral mulch]

actually nvm its mavuika citlali xilonen

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh the most fun i been having is anything with Vanessa on it

[rugged sparrow]

then never Raiden E

[fiery wigeon]

Plunge is aura

[rugged sparrow]

or superconduct

[viral mulch]

never swap to raiden

[fiery wigeon]

Nah yk what we need that thorns reaction needs to be cannon not jjst IT

[viral mulch]

cannon

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah like aether as the Main character , its cannon

[rugged sparrow]

canon

[fiery wigeon]

Boom

[rugged sparrow]

cannon is Navia's ult

[viral mulch]

faiyaaa

[fiery wigeon]

Navia is like what geo should have been pre 3.0

[lyric cargo]

wait, has this hint always been there?
I was searching the whole game map manually every day

[viral mulch]

went from wolflord to shill itto in specific to legatus golem to shill navia in specific

[fiery wigeon]

So when we do get a new geo character every 37 years it ends up actually making a difference unlike chiori 👀

[elder bluff]

Diff 6 crab 7s

[crimson plover]

geo has not been relevant since... ever

it's yellow phys and we all know how relevant that is

[fiery wigeon]

I love my geo team with itto whos cracked and my chiori whos cracked but would i ever take them into abyss? HHAHAHAHA Noo...

[viral mulch]

that plunge local legend and legatus golem getting its draft message from spiral abyss everytime

next time its gonna be legatus golem in stygian too

[fiery wigeon]

My favorite color is yellow , and thats where all my bad decisions came from

[crimson plover]

just brute force legatus or use claymore

i don't think i've ever bgroken that shield

[viral mulch]

as long as its not wolflord in stygian

[fiery wigeon]

Just brute force him as if hsi res isnt super high

[viral mulch]

i think legatus is higher chance cus it just straight up has a suitable variant like tulpa did

[crimson plover]

the power of cons compels you

u can break the sheild with other elements anyway it's not that much of a pain

compared to something like the cactus

[fiery wigeon]

Nah yk what compells me? That dopamine I get from seeing my friends who are AR58 and still don't know how to build characters so I see sh like arle doing 14k on a melt

[opal surge]

I think legatus will never run in SO

for it to run th ere needs to be a geo dps to shill and theres none

[viral mulch]

sandrone

trust frfr fr rf rf rf rrfrrrf

[opal surge]

shell have her own shill boss though

[crimson plover]

get signoraed

[viral mulch]

tbf theyre starting to put like

bosses that shill reruns or more generic bosses in stygian for whatever reason

so next time whoever geo reruns might be the case

i still dont know why they decided to throw in aeonblight this cycle

[opal surge]

i dont htink so, bosses seem very awfully well balanced around c0 shill being able to clear dire

[crimson plover]

aeonblight is just the pity boss

since the other 2 are dogshit if u don't roll the latest chars

[fiery wigeon]

Nah give us scaramouche , play outsude the box and gimme an easy fight

[opal surge]

lauma on crab ineffa on trooper etc

[crimson plover]

i just brute forced trooper

[opal surge]

the only geo dps we have right now is not clearing legatus at c0r1

[fiery wigeon]

Just look at abyss itto can barely clear if your other team cleared in half a minute

[crimson plover]

somehow skirk worked

[viral mulch]

i cant talk more here fuck

[crimson plover]

itto was always garbo to play with the 80 cost burst and basilaly 0 dmg outside it

[opal surge]

skirk in fearless is trivial

[viral mulch]

tbh tho

[opal surge]

but fearless is not meant to be restrictive

[viral mulch]

i like the idea of like aeonblight in stygian stuff

[opal surge]

i think its obvious that SO is balanced arounnd dire

[viral mulch]

not everything has to be shill gatekeeping

[fiery wigeon]

I liked itto tho and I thought this game didn't care about what teams you build back in the day but holy I was wrong

[opal surge]

its not a coincidence that the shills have cleared dire at the same investment in the same time in all three SOs

[crimson plover]

lol, you talk like most people can even clear fearless, there's tons of people complainign about not being able to do it

i mean the only reason why i have itto was because i thought it was a good idea to roll gorou to build noelle

[viral mulch]

funniest part back then was combat events used to have at least one geo shill stage despite the only possible one utilizing it was itto

[crimson plover]

it was not a good idea to roll gorou to build noelle

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh since what 4.6 I dont think ittos cleared abyss once

[opal surge]

he for sure can

[crimson plover]

i tried using him on chiori abyss

he didn't work

[opal surge]

people are clearing abyss with 4* duos and trios

[viral mulch]

i dont have itto

[crimson plover]

those 4*s typically have ridiculous amounts of investment

[viral mulch]

any baseds in chat tho

[crimson plover]

i think i ahve my stonethresher on noelle atm

[fiery wigeon]

I have him at like 92crit rate and 172 crit damage but yk the bug issue this snuggling issue of needing a good crit ratio and A MILLION ER ON TOP

[crimson plover]

not that i use her either lol

[opal surge]

theyre like 32 sub builds

[crimson plover]

my geo roster is basically non existent

[opal surge]

its w/e abyss just isnt very hard

[viral mulch]

wtf this man added me from wild west menu

[crimson plover]

imagine actually playing with proper rotations

[fiery wigeon]

This guy can say what he wishes I don't think its possible with itto

[crimson plover]

i must mash my face on the keyboard and press whatever buttons light up

[fiery wigeon]

I can clear with the national team but itto nah hes like the new wuwa tower all the damage for like 30 seconds

[honest heart]

is MH better than finale on skirk?

[crimson plover]

they're roughly equivalent

[viral mulch]

im gonna accept this guy im curious