📌gimshim-help

[haughty lotus]

Tro…

Uninstall if you missed belle outfit ngl 🤭

[nova swift]

Wait Belle, isn't that the MC of ZZZ?

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-joia-gif-27503164

[forest venture]

i missed wise outfit

[nova swift]

WAIT SO THEY GIVE THE ZZZ MC A SKIN BUT LUMINE STILL HAS NO SKIN???? 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[hazy lotus]

the zzz mcs have 2 skins already in a little over a year

[nova swift]

I'm crashing out

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-brah-rip-rest-in-piece-rest-in-peace-brah-gif-27633084

[bright cape]

they could've given us this sometime during natlan.

[nova swift]

fr

[real shadow]

which bp weapon should i get?

what if i dont use it does it just get deleted

[real shadow]

the box with the weapons

[silk mango]

Is c6 tighnari damage good? Does he do better than alhaitham?

[lyric cargo]

they're about the same afaik, but Alh's supports fit him better

so I guess there's potential for Tigh to get better teammates in the future (?)

[cedar flint]

it’s actually the second skin already

[opal surge]

Not only that you can also wear customizable accessories on your mc

[neon harness]

😔

[thorn bay]

I have a very disgusting idea

By beating dire under 60 sec you also get mc skin

As well as the 5 star weapon skin

But this mc skin is perm

This skin can not be purchased

@hoyoverse hire me

No I have even more disgusting idea

Why make dire 110 when players have access to lvl 100 now

Impossible difficulty with 150 lvl bosses that has a reward of 5 star mc skin (which has ult animation)

[silk mango]

oh ok
thank you

[foggy phoenix]

is alre citlali xilonen bennet a good team for alre

[thorn bay]

Yes and I believe that’s her new premium team

[bright cape]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuyuan-chibi-gif-10122847871454383897

pls don't cook

[thorn bay]

I cooked

[viral mulch]

ronald mcdonald insanity

[crude dirge]

is citlali enough for arle to melt

[opal surge]

Yes

[valid anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-ronald-mcdonald-dancing-dance-dance-off-gif-16706449

[graceful kayak]

for top 4 dps
is these the stronger teams for them?
arle-yelan-bennet-kazuha
mav-xilonen-citlali-bennet
nuevillete-furina-xilonen-citlali
skirk-yelan-shenhe-escoffier

[strange scarab]

[cedar flint]

top 4 or not skirk without furina esco is a bit of a drop

[strange scarab]

Neuvillette in top 4

[graceful kayak]

ye

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/akkubaba007-jerry-laugh-akku-fav-gif-gif-16150872697915744919

[cedar flint]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[graceful kayak]

then who
varesa?

[cedar flint]

but either way if you’re playing skirk you want to use her with furina esco

[strange scarab]

Arle and mav pretty much share the same team

[cedar flint]

and that

[graceful kayak]

who?

[rugged sparrow]

trying to rank top DPS when it can be match up dependent is kinda

though Mav is undoubtedly #1 due to lack of truly bad match up + just unparalleled dmg

[cedar flint]

until the day she will be dethroned we’re safe

[opal surge]

Vape arle top 4

[graceful kayak]

i just saw video and he said the top 5 now are mav-skirk-varesa-mulani and arle
im literally shocked
but for c0 is they still the same top 5 too?

[cedar flint]

mualani oh with cons it would make sense

her cons are stupidity strong for no valid reason

[opal surge]

With cons its wrong

Without cons it's arguably correct but arle is a sneak

[storm sequoia]

Can you only use skirk in a cryo and hydro team only?

[opal surge]

But in reality gorou will mog mavuika if the matchup is bad enough

[opal surge]

Pretty much

[graceful kayak]

so mulani stronger than nuevilette
still 5 days for her should i get her? i already have mav and skirk so idk if i should get another dps(c0 both)

[storm sequoia]

That’s no fun

[opal surge]

She's not really stronger than neuvilette ranking is not black and white

[vale hinge]

Mualani is more specific while neuvillette is more well rounded

[opal surge]

Neuvilette sheets higher and has a billion qol features

[graceful kayak]

should i get mulani?

[opal surge]

Mualani can produce faster clear times

I would strongly recommend to not get mualani

[cedar flint]

pull her if you like her

[opal surge]

Unless you know what you're doing

In which case you wouldn't ask if you should get her

[cedar flint]

don’t pull her cus she can be a strong option

besides she might become irrelevant in a few patches if you’re only concerned about meta

pull for safer options

[opal surge]

Mualani is probably the only DPS out of the pretty great ones that I would not recommend to pull unless you like her or you're wanting to produce fast but painful cleartimes

[crude dirge]

use her in burn melt

[rugged sparrow]

NEED A SURFBOARD?

[rugged sparrow]

Mua in sheet is kinda though

most of her ideal match ups are like 2 chomps or die trying

feast or famine type shi

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-tissue-gif-22242558

[shy zephyr]

I can only pick a standard constellation from the constellation selector in the next patch.
Is c4 dehya, c4 tighnari, c3 keqing or c4 jean better?
I only use tighnari/dehya/keqing in Imaginarium theater, and I dont use jean but she may be useful for a future anemo dps.

[opal surge]

since you can select 4 across the year it seems to me that you can simply get them all

[haughty lotus]

Keqing’s are pretty bad, and you’d use faruzan over Jean if you get an anemo dps. Dehya’s are good if you use her as a dps but she starts out pretty bad and only becomes acceptable at c6 lol. Tighnaris are good if you use him.

I’d either pick between dehya or tighnari, their cons are decent and you can eventually get the things to lvl 100 characters if you get repeats after c6

Oh it’s the constellation selector
Well just pick tighnari and dehya first then hope someone else useful gets added later

[strange scarab]

Is that so

[cedar flint]

I don’t think they will add anyone before next anni ngl

I feel like if they gonna add it’s gonna be per .0 update

[sick quarry]

defo

[quaint fern]

to grab glorpglorp or C7 d*luc for the free standard

[haughty lotus]

Lvl 100 ganyu when

[lyric cargo]

lvl95 Raiden surely

[bright cape]

if i was u i would choose, c7 ganyu and c8 ganyu

for the masterless thingy

[opal surge]

last I checked ganyu was not standard still

[bright cape]

omg. my bad

i was so excited i forgor 😭

but i wish she was. her weapon is on standard banner 😔

[opal surge]

Nah they need to stop adding standard characters so I can farm the masterless stellar fortuna

[bright cape]

look when they make varka and alice standard characters

like tighnari and dehya 😔

[lyric cargo]

I thought they meant lvl95 / lvl100 by c7 and c8

[bright cape]

nah i thought he could get 2 masterless just from c6 ganyu.

but can only get one

[quaint fern]

SOON

[haughty lotus]

Is your diluc like c10 or are you a bit short

[quaint fern]

C7 ganyu

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/zy0x-zyox-shocked-face-in-agony-perplexed-gif-12491581398073856281

[cedar flint]

Lvl 100 varesa is probably my first choice

[lyric cargo]

I might sit on the lvl95 material if I get one, until I need the extra boost to get a stygian clear

I'll get c4 → c6 Tighnari on the two selectors (standard char selector, const selector)

from there it'll depend on whether I lose to him again or get him on standard

[cedar flint]

“The extra boost” the 2% dps increase

[lyric cargo]

in general it's like 10% from lvl100 I heard, half that from lvl95

[cedar flint]

unless it’s like hyperbloom but it depends if they keep the scaling the same

[cedar flint]

around 8%

[lyric cargo]

the potential exception being teams that deal a lot of their damage as transformative reaction dmg

but those have a lower baseline anyways

[cedar flint]

hyperbloom tho will get a 20% increase form lvl 95

unless again they will fuck the scaling

[lyric cargo]

the reaction, or team dps?
I heard 40% HB dmg from lvl100, HB dmg 20% from lvl95
the actual team dps being more like +20% from lvl100 and likely 10% from lvl95?

hyperbloom with c2 Nahida is currently like my 3rd best team
so it could be that those 10% team dps makes the difference

not that I think it's a good long-term investment 🤔

whatever next team i get will kick my current 3rd best out

[cedar flint]

the reaction

cus who knows if the scaling will stay the same

[quaint fern]

I wish I had more cons on him 😔

[cedar flint]

I can get c6 the same way from c4 but ngl I would prefer to pick mizuki and cons in characters I like over potential lvl 100

you can probably kill turtle with mualani and kill pap with skirk but surely mavuika can do it

[ripe surge]

i tried kinich, benny, mavuika, citlali for papillon and i cant defeat papillon before 30 second mark

[cedar flint]

You got her premium team

[ripe surge]

i tried with mualani e0s0 and like she's doing no dmg. whats mualani's team?

[cedar flint]

how much she does per vape

[ripe surge]

around 250k

idk why its so low

[quaint fern]

How much em

[cedar flint]

maybe arle premium for pap?

[quaint fern]

Just send the build https://enka.network

[cedar flint]

she should be able to break his shield

no wonder

where is your em

also does she really prefer double hp

your mualani should be doing 350k per vape fr fr

[ripe surge]

ok i switched with em sands

whats good mualani team?

i'll try with pap skirk

[cedar flint]

can’t say try searching c0 turtle clears and see what they got going

I don’t have her so I can’t say what’s optimal

[quaint fern]

You need to go mavuika scroll or pmc

Xiangling wont work

[cedar flint]

xianling attacks too much

and well feeding her burst is

[opal surge]

skirk on papilla is like terrible

I would not even try

just play mav on papilla

@ripe surge

[ripe surge]

mav, benny, xilo, citlali? i wont fill the papilla bar in time

[opal surge]

overload or melt yeah

melt is the easiest

there is no time limit on filling the shield

[ripe surge]

if u dont fill papilla it explodes

[opal surge]

no it doesnt

[neon wave]

up to menacing
fearless/dire is different

[opal surge]

thats not how that fight works on dire/fearless

idk why i thought it was dire

[neon wave]

I think fearless also has the same mechanic

[opal surge]

yeah it is

[quaint fern]

Depends if you have Furina or not

[opal surge]

but also mavuika is enough solo to do the normal papilla shield as well

[quaint fern]

I was able to do it with citlali xq

[opal surge]

No it doesnt depend on it its genuinely just actually bad

being able to do it =/= being good

[quaint fern]

Okay fair

It felt like ass to play

[ripe surge]

mavuika no kinich no yelan?

[opal surge]

? Yeah mavuika completely solo no teammates

[rugged sparrow]

not Fearless/Dire Papilla though

[ripe surge]

im using mav, benny, xilo, citlali and i cant seem to fill it in time

[rugged sparrow]

like, normal Papilla?

[ripe surge]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

skill issue then ig

[ripe surge]

menacing

[rugged sparrow]

just look up some guides on how to break it

you literally just Mav E and use her dash spam combo

[ripe surge]

dash spam combo?

[opal surge]

you just n1d yeah

[rugged sparrow]

🏍️ 💨 💨

[opal surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ncXUVwKA3A

need to xilo en2 immediatly when barrier gets down to get mavuika burst up

in SO

[rugged sparrow]

what's SO anyway

[misty jacinth]

only a place of pain and tears

[opal surge]

nah SO is goated

(until next patch where I cant clear because Im not shilled then its a dogass gamemode)

[rugged sparrow]

[misty jacinth]

based

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-my-house-flo-rida-teen-choice-awards2016-welcome-gif-5749091

[empty star]

For dps kokomi is it genuinely better to do crit or no crit

Cause idk anymore

[valid anchor]

[cedar flint]

crit kok is a meme build

[lyric cargo]

you can give overload a try, if you have Ororon built
Mav
Ororon
Chevreuse (got c6?)
Bennett / Iansan

[lyric cargo]

part of the issue could be not having enough ER on Citlali to burst first rotation?

so there'd be no nightsoul damage coming from her

[forest venture]

crit... kokofish?

[dusty cape]

[finite parrot]

Installed the game after taking a few months off.
Now I can't get into the game because of this. Anyone knows why? All resources are downloaded byw

[finite parrot]

Opps I was using the old launcher. Shit

[bright cape]

we can finally go 2pc2pc er

[forest venture]

+20 er on my c4 faruzan

[neon harness]

yippe

[lyric cargo]

surely it's for fav
because if you build enough CR to reach > 0, you likely have just the base 50 crit dmg

[lyric cargo]

2pc scroll kinda gave us that tbh, so long as there was a Natlan char on the team (preferably Xilonen)

[thorn bay]

Woah ces??

[thorn bay]

6 energy

4pc exile gives more I believe

[bright cape]

ces?

[thorn bay]

Creator exp server

[bright cape]

how so?

[bright cape]

oh yah.

[thorn bay]

It gives. 6 energy

[bright cape]

oh i see

[thorn bay]

Also there is the Las Vegas ces

[lyric cargo]

but how many particles do you get?
the effect of ER multiplies your particles. I'm not sure how much flat energy you can expect from 20% ER

[thorn bay]

Hmmm

[thorn bay]

Nvm it’s same 6 energy but for the whole team

[lyric cargo]

oh, you mean the 4pc effect

[thorn bay]

Ye

2pc does give 20er too

[lyric cargo]

I thought we were talking about: 2pc emblem 2pc scroll
vs
2pc emblem 2pc exile

(obviously 2pc Exile gives less ER than scroll because of substats)

[thorn bay]

Ngl that would be pretty interesting

[thorn bay]

True

[lyric cargo]

you can look at Citlali's ER req on 4pc scroll vs on other sets

that shows how much scroll helps her

though especially so with Xilonen, as Xilo triggers an additional nightsoul burst

[opal surge]

Scroll is generally much better than 20er

But requires natlan so

[lyric cargo]

that's what I thought, ty

[cedar flint]

who should I use as my 4th character in a Benny mav cit team?

also I don’t own xilo

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen, Iansan, Sucrose, or possibly Escoffier

double cryo would be if you use the C1 d N1 combo

[cedar flint]

for Mav or

[opal surge]

Yes

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[cedar flint]

c1 is like one donut?

[opal surge]

It's "technically" her best team if piloted by a robot

No it's until her CA hits once

[lyric cargo]

it's a hard combo to learn, so I'd stick to the first 3

[cedar flint]

well I guess I can lend her Iansan if I don’t use varesa in abyss but it would be harder in the other endgame

[lyric cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vCt-0pig4pg

[lyric cargo]

Sucrose is not an option?

[cedar flint]

I will have to build her

so it will take time

[lyric cargo]

good char to build imo

but yeah

[cedar flint]

I’m kinda a sucrose hater story wise but yeah she is

what would be the rotation with sucrose?

[opal surge]

You can also simply pull chasca and play chasca BMC

[cedar flint]

I won’t be pulling anyone up until varesa rerun

and I’m not a fan of chasca outfit

Also is it worth considering c2 Citlali if I got c1 while pulling for her?

[opal surge]

If you play mavuika sure

Or arle or any other Pyro carry really

[cedar flint]

since she is only one con away

[lyric cargo]

Mav E
Sucrose E
Bennett EQ
Citlali EQ

Mav Q C3F C3F C1F

F indicates you let go of the charge attack button. Mav jumps and does a final attack that hits the ground.

if you do it right, the final attack will melt and pyro aura will not take over (allowing you to keep melting)

[cedar flint]

C3 is like 3 hits right?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[cedar flint]

I see so sucrose is only there to trigger vv?

and I guess em buff if she does it from reaction and not burst I don’t remember exactly what she does

[lyric cargo]

looking at GenshinBuilds sheet, they mention doing a dash after the final slash.
(I don't remember that being part of that combo)

[lyric cargo]

VV and EM buff, yeah
maybe a normal attack would do as well

the remaining uptime once you finally get to Mav is rather short, but a lot of Mav's damage comes from melting the initial burst hit

[cedar flint]

like after each slash or only the last one of the rotation?

[cedar flint]

Well ye she is mostly a nuke

[lyric cargo]

Her optimal onfield combo for melt is generally 3CA > Final slash> dash >3CA > Final slash - but this can be hard to pull off, so you can settle for 4 CA > jump > 3CA > Final slash

this is what they write

[cedar flint]

I guess you do need to count the hits and it’s probably harder with multiple enemies so I can see why the jump one can be easier

[lyric cargo]

I believe the dash is at least optional. maybe it animation cancels and reduces the time after the final attack before you can do the next CA

[cedar flint]

at least until you build some muscle memory

[lyric cargo]

I always found C3F easier than jump

maybe because I'm not used to jump cancels

[cedar flint]

I don’t like jump cancels either

Well I will put sucrose on the list for now but rn I’m building my lunar charge ifa team and ororon is not done yet

but thanks for the info it was informative

[fast rock]

I don't have any dendro team in my account and is lauma worth going for? I don't have nilou

[zealous ledge]

Are these things you get after (world) quests? Or do you actually have to find them on the map? I forgot

[misty jacinth]

quests I think

[misty jacinth]

she's said to be bloom support, so it seems like without Nilou or other dendro it might be not very profitable, but also idk, maybe she would actually work nice as solo dendro

generally if you like her and want her, I think it's always worth pulling despite the meta

[cedar flint]

She can work in hyperbloom just as well no nilou required

[misty jacinth]

actually, I've seen Lauma used in a hyper-

[cedar flint]

nilou is for pure bloom maxing

[misty jacinth]

yeah 😂

[misty jacinth]

was just about to say that I'm just watching early access video (about Aino, but Lauma is there as an example) with a team of Lauma, Xingqiu, Aino and Kuki, so apparently that works too

[cedar flint]

she works with every core related reaction

[misty jacinth]

khhhh, that's so neat, I'm tempted myself 😩 but if even, I'll just have to wait for a rerun, cause Flins is my priority rn

[zealous ledge]

Okie

[misty jacinth]

found this video, you may check it out if you want some more in-depth dive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqaI3828h4

[fast rock]

Why did they give her 2 c2 of 2 limited characters?
I'm pulling

[cedar flint]

power creep

[fast rock]

most Insane one so far

[cedar flint]

tho dendro needed a buff ngl

[lyric cargo]

which ones?

it's a shame for my c2 Nahida. I don't know how much of an upgrade lauma would be, though..

I expect her c0 is better than c2 Nahida, but by how much

[cedar flint]

they should stack so you will just crit more often

[cedar flint]

she gives 15% crit rate and 100 base crit dmg to bloom related reactions

so nahida crit rate should stack and bring it to 35%? nahida give 20 or 15 I forgot?

[lyric cargo]

but hyperbloom teams can't really run 1 hydro 1 electro 2 dendro, can they?
that'd be too little hydro and too much dendro

unless there's an insane hydro applier (Tartaglia?! but hb likes its application to have no downtime)

I'm also not sure if those effects stack. Both give bloom reactions a fixed crit rate

[lyric cargo]

Nahida gives 20% CR, 100% CD

[neon wave]

the crit rate stacks as per CC server videos

[lyric cargo]

oh, nice

[cedar flint]

Read c2 nahida

[lyric cargo]

crit dmg doesn't stack, I assume?

[neon wave]

nop

[lyric cargo]

CRIT Rate and CRIT DMG are fixed at 20% and 100% respectively.

[cedar flint]

yes but below it it says something else

Or maybe it was lauma passive

cus i remember something that is reads along the lines of similar effects can stack

[lyric cargo]

CRIT Rate from this effect stacks with CRIT Rate from similar effects that allow these Elemental Reactions to CRIT.
oh.
I could swear that wasn't there when I first read it

[cedar flint]

Ye so technically you can run 35 crit rate

Tho I do agree we probably don’t have a character that can apply enough hydro solo

in hyperbloom case

[kindred nimbus]

does anyone have stellar reunion?

i need weapon mats so bad

[finite parrot]

Why noone is answered me idk. Everyone hates me i guess

[opal surge]

If you were to ask something perhaps the chances of someone answering would increase

[finite parrot]

I asking last night but it's okay

[quaint fern]

well you answered your own question

is there smth else you wanted to ask?

[finite parrot]

Idk man it still not work. I don't want to download another 90 GB because of launcher

[quaint fern]

it's probably not updated properly bc you're on the old launcher

[finite parrot]

I download new launcher and locate game files but still the game wants to download 90 BG idk man

[quaint fern]

it should detect the files?

is it mapped to the right dir?

[finite parrot]

Not exactly. Because when I first download using the old launcher it has different path. After I use new launcher i set the path to the same path as the old one

[quaint fern]

iirc if you just hit download it should find everything?

you can check in maincord tho

https://discord.com/channels/522681957373575168/676653691675082752

[finite parrot]

I'll just download again when I sleep but it'll be a waste of bandwidth. But it's all for my waifu Raiden so I don't care. Thanks for your answer

[dense birch]

Reply/ping me to earn 142.4k Mora in ~90 minutes

Elite Mora runs are a super sweaty Genshin coop activity where you basically kill elite enemies that drop 200/400/600 Mora, following along a set route with 3 other people. You do this for all 4 worlds and by the end (of this route) you gain 142.4k Mora and ~60k artifact EXP

• Route: -6 fork for 4 worlds of LLs
• World Level 8️⃣/9️⃣ - Starting UID: 745937730
• Time: <t:1757007000:t>
• 4/4, full~

[valid anchor]

If launcher detects the game resources are over 2 patches old, it'll ask for a full download.

[crude dirge]

what could be best teams for dps dehya

[haughty lotus]

Mavuika Citlali Bennett dehya

[crude dirge]

mavuika will steal the melts

[forest venture]

Dehya Lighter Chevruse Jiaoqiu

[haughty lotus]

Dehya will steal the melts, so don’t use her skill 😊

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[haughty lotus]

No electro smh

[forest venture]

the team works best against electro regisvine

[haughty lotus]

Ah

I’d probably do dehya lighter tribbie chord tbh

[opaque niche]

will I get banned for using genshin as an ipa(iPhone package application) instead of directly through the AppStore?

[dim agate]

im preparing for lauma and have a question!! i want to run her with nahida and on-field kokomi, so should nahida have a full em build or or stay on em time piece, dendro bonus cup, crit rate circlet and the widsith?

[bright cape]

why not directly use appstore version?

r u using it on mac or something?

using ipa has it caveats.

[opaque niche]

Just curious bc my old iPad is absolutely cooked I can’t recover my acc EVEN THO I entered my password and phone, etc, etc. smh…

[bright cape]

does ur old ipad have genshin installed?

if u r freshly installing ipa, ur logins won't be saved there anyway

[opaque niche]

I already have it installed, but the thing is if I even try to update it, say go to the App Store then it’ll bombard me to sign in, and I can’t do much abt it I’m signed on the same apple acc on this device like how is a single verification code that hard, man

[bright cape]

take ipad backup and tinker

u might be able to transfer appdata somehow

[opaque niche]

Hmm, alr, Ty

[graceful kayak]

in character story quests some characters have many endings like bennet have 6.how much each ending gives? or it just give primo when u complete it all?

[valid anchor]

around 6, yes. each ending will give some primo.

[valid anchor]

login with a new apple device with the same Apple credentials as you have on Genshin. As long you have those Apple credentials active, you can move your game data.

You can also go to Hoyoverse Account website and login with your Apple credentials, then setup email/password or link a SNS (like Facebook/X), in order to enable cross-save and move your data (or play over Cloud).

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/klee-kokomi-sangonomiya-kokomi-kokomi-genshin-klee-genshin-gif-24959671

[haughty lotus]

Hhey

[feral reef]

Steal u

[dusk mica]

serious question, if im showcasing a character and i wanna do big damage, does my xilonen need to be shredding the dps character's element?? i could swear as long as she got some sort of reaction it still triggered all her buffs but now im not sure

[haughty lotus]

you have to trigger a crystallize of the element of your main dps if she is on 4pc scroll. if she isnt on that set then yeah she just gives you all the buffs after using her skill whenever

[haughty lotus]

dk what that means

[dusk mica]

im shocked idk if im just stupid but i actually just thought the set said as long as a reaction is made the elemental damage boost goes ham

[feral reef]

Steal u mama

@haughty lotus who should i run with nagi nagi

https://tenor.com/view/yanagi-yanagi-zzz-yanagi-zenless-yanagi-zenless-zone-zero-yanagi-demo-gif-16305581997652820955

@haughty lotus ahh cutscene

[haughty lotus]

please dont send these goon gifs in jenshin help

[haughty lotus]

yuzuha rina

[feral reef]

No rina

She on my mavuika team

Can i run grace?

Rn i got nagi as second to alice team
But also want nagi main

[haughty lotus]

you a feet fan or smth?

[feral reef]

Wha

Is grace feet gamer?

Unlike u i dont look at that stuff

Bet u pulled seed

[haughty lotus]

yeah me neither, shes pretty cheeks tho, only reason youd build her is if youre a ff

[haughty lotus]

ew

[dusk mica]

yawl what would the rotation be if im trying to blow up scaramouche's house

i'm on widshit so this is def gonna take me a couple tries hoping for the em buff oml

might be easier to do raiden with this team hold on

[feral reef]

Final fantasy?

@haughty lotus whats nagi teams then la
Nagi yuzu ?

[strange scarab]

Mayhaps

[feral reef]

Who third

[neon harness]

mhmmnm

[rugged sparrow]

just slap Seth or Trigger or smth else

[sharp saddle]

yeah, i'd agree you're better at math than me ; )

but trying to bring me into a random convo to prove your point is not really nice idk.

just a random read

[rugged sparrow]

am not even claiming to be better on math
and they were the one who brought you in the first place

[sharp saddle]

oh wait why this discord looks different

[sharp saddle]

either way yeah, just leave me out of those.

[rugged sparrow]

tell that to them
I had no intention on dragging anyone

they were the one who suddenly namedropped you

[viral mulch]

macaroni

[rugged sparrow]

when will u play ZZZ

[viral mulch]

i am earthbound to the realms of teyvat grasped by the dread of sunk cost fallacy
the souls of the damned drastically overwhelms my will to shed off until the inevitable doom caused by the armageddon that will wipe out the crust of this land

[rugged sparrow]

the sunk cost fallacy strikes again

[viral mulch]

only gonna worsen cus im gon c6 lama

[rugged sparrow]

simp

[viral mulch]

okay but

[rugged sparrow]

no buts

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-waffle-house-waffle-house-flightreacts-gif-291001867069513835

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[haughty lotus]

Did you save any for me

[bright cape]

will lauma be better for alhaitham than nahida?

i don't see many CCs using him

[wild meadow]

its the last 2 days before stygian reset, and i want to ask for some advice

here is my current lineup, i got them to at least 5% on all of them, but just wasnt enough time

wonder if there any difference that i can do to improve

[opal surge]

Do you own xilonen/iansan?

and/or chevreuse?

[bright cape]

new furina weapon?

[wild meadow]

no no

[wild meadow]

and yes

[wild meadow]

but only at c2

[thorn bay]

Nilou but can be used on furina

And most hp scaling sword users

And maybe future nod Kai character as well

[lyric cargo]

thing is, teams with majority lunar-charged damage make dmg% kind of a dead stat

assuming this is the case for all lunar reaction teams,
I expect Furina to be pushed off most Nod-Krai teams and be used with older dpses when a replacement for her on Nod-Krai teams comes out
her synergy with Nod-Krai chars just isn't that good
so for now, I'd assume you just get the 32% hp buff, not the 64%

[valid anchor]

more like a lunar weapon.

[bright cape]

oh ok. i dunno what moonsign ascendant gleam is

[valid anchor]

I think that's mentioned on the developer notes, right?

[lyric cargo]

it's similar to elemental resonance, but it counts Nod-Krai chars rather than chars of an element
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Team_Bonus#Moonsign

[lyric cargo]

it seems Nod-Krai chars also have passives that activate depending on moonsign

[bright cape]

oh i see. a bit of racism.

but manageable

2 is not that bad

[valid anchor]

sorta.

Lunar-reaction DMG bonus for the whole party, as long you have at least 2 Nod-krai charas.

[lyric cargo]

what's easy to miss: this is reaction%, not dmg%
so it's less impactful than dmg%
you already get reaction bonus from elemental mastery, so it's usually a more saturated stat

[bright cape]

so they said lunar reactions take into account the crit rate and cdmg of characters participating

do we know how that works?

[bright cape]

they moving away from hypercarry. it's kind of a fresh air

[lyric cargo]

hmm?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, you can basically have 2 participants
the one with higher lunar-charged damage adds their full damage, the next highest adds 0.5x

the third adds 1/12th, so it can basically be ignored

[bright cape]

so it's additive?

i dunno how that damage is calculated.

is it dependent on the EMs?

[elder bluff]

the only info you need, is that the LC damage is as low as EC

[lyric cargo]

thing about lunar-charged is, you can have the reaction,
or direct lunar charged damage (which is what Ineffa mainly does)

the reaction ticks less frequently than electro-charged, so it ends up being only about as good as electro-charged
you wouldn't build for the reaction

[lyric cargo]

this

[bright cape]

i saw that for lauma too

there were small lunar bloom damage
and big one when she consumes 3 moons

so there is stuff called direct damage?

[lyric cargo]

but as a damage type (what Ineffa's passive does), it's decent.
you get a 3x multiplier to direct lunar-charged
and you get to ignore enemy defense, which roughly doubles the damage again

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CcOiG-rbEpY

[bright cape]

thanks

[ripe surge]

whats skirk preferred cr/cd with finale of the deep 4 set + sig weap??

[crimson plover]

there's no preferred, just get it as high as possible while balancing

[ripe surge]

like 85 cr?

[crimson plover]

depends on your comp, double hydro means cryo res is less reliable so you might not want to play around that

i normally run triple cryo so i'm kind of winging it with 75 lol

[lyric cargo]

1 : 2 crit ratio after buffs
useful substat count / roll value as high as possible

[crude dirge]

get big crit dmg and ~80 cr without resonance buff

[lyric cargo]

value of atk% vs crit is optimizer territory (gotta calc)
but the difference is usually less than 1 substat , so higher substat count reigns supreme

80cr isn't a good rule
if your crit dmg is over 200%, you want your crit rate to be 100% after buffs

note that cryo resonance can have low uptime, though

against bosses and, especially with 2 hydro units
triggering freeze on bosses will just remove the aura, so cryo application has to win over hydro for resonance to exist

and stygian onslaught is mostly unfreezable bosses

[ripe surge]

the c0r1 skirk has 86cr 172 cd raw stats + c1 escoffier so thats good enough i think

[crimson plover]

cryo reso only really has decent uptime iwth triple cryo, double has really bad uptime

[sleek kraken]

hey so
i have a chance of getting chasca
should i wait for the next banner or just pull for her ?

[crude dirge]

of u want chasca then go for it idk
i dont think early nod krai characters will be much better than chasca

[sleek kraken]

true
i had missed out wanderer and have cried myself to sleep a lot
don't wanna miss out on a good anemo character

thanks man

[crude dirge]

but shes not anemo dps

[quaint fern]

Thats true

[bright cape]

does ineffa trigger hyperbloom well?

like say raiden/kuki

[viral mulch]

fallad of the bjords

[clear ginkgo]

Olorun bis 4 star bow? Been seeing the craftable bow in Natlan. or Fading twilight.

[young sphinx]

for mualani should i sacrifice some cdmg for more HP? she has around 50k HP and i think 200 cdmg but is only doing like 100k 🥀

i think her cr is like 70 - i'm an old player and i am trying to build the new meta characters but i might be being an idiot

[valid anchor]

Favonius, ye old reliable. Alley Hunter.

[bright cape]

u r overcapping 60 is the max upper limit.

[valid anchor]

Mualani as a basic Natlan vape DPS, needs Obsidian Codex x4 as artifact set. Codex gives her +40% Critical Rate, so you can go bit low on that.

If not using Obsidian codex, classy artifact set is usually HoD or Unfinished Reverie, but it depends on team composition.

[haughty lotus]

What team are you using and what’s her em

[young sphinx]

she has HoD right now but i'm trying to switch to codex because it's annoying me - she isn't usually my main dps but when i use her like that it's usually bennett and kazuha (old player so i don't have the new supports) her em is 117

i should clarify i do want her to have main dps capabilities

[thorn bay]

Bennett is useless

For mualani

[haughty lotus]

Yeah just keep farming codex. Team sounds quite scuffed, Mualani should be the main dps and Bennett doesn’t buff her. You don’t need the new supports for a decent team, characters like xiangling/pyro traveller/sucrose/kazuha/candace/barbara work

[young sphinx]

my teams are always scuffed icl 🥀

thank u guys i haven't cared about meta in four years lolll :)

[elder bluff]

pyro mc/xilonen/sucrose
best team for mualani

[feral reef]

memey helpful??

my goat

[vernal stone]

can i use long nights oath artifact set on hutao if im playing plunge hutao

[haughty lotus]

no

[elder bluff]

no

[haughty lotus]

Answer my questions.

[feral reef]

what question

[haughty lotus]

cms

[feral reef]

zoros foot

[haughty lotus]

goon

[feral reef]

cro messages

cms

[haughty lotus]

how did you know

[feral reef]

i am the best dehya player

thast why

[haughty lotus]

?

[stark sandal]

best teams i can make ?

[elder bluff]

are you a natlanphobia or what

[stark sandal]

im a returning player

[elder bluff]

neuvillette furina fischl/zhongli kazuha
navia zli benny xiangling
nahida kuki xingqiu yelan
hutao furina xianyun benny
raiden chev benny fischl

[stark sandal]

any way to make them a bit more spicy?

[elder bluff]

pull lauma to replace nahida

xilonen to replace zhongli

[stark sandal]

with the characters i have?

like maybe furina instead of xiangling

the more 5* the better

[crude dirge]

how the hell does furina replace xiangling

[stark sandal]

navia ?

[crude dirge]

keep for neuv

[stark sandal]

she's not locked to one team, can use same charac on multiple teams

[young sphinx]

ignore this in relation to my earlier questions - this is my somewhat cursed account (quit during sumeru through to early natlan), who should i build? I do not focus on meta but i am trying to lock in. I usually main xiao or kinich but i’m open to maining whoever lowkey. the 5 stars past zhongli all have awful builds so also who do i fix

[lyric cargo]

(rather than 70 being the maximum, I'd say you're forgetting what your artifact set does (she's on 4pc codex, right?)

codex gives 40% crit rate, so you have 110%

oh Yoan already said that

for better feedback, I'd post enka cards

[lyric cargo]

there are two account building goals when it comes to meta: Stygian Onslaught and Imaginarium Theater

Onslaught wants you to have 3 teams that can handle some very restrictive bosses. So one goal is to build dpses whose support choices don't overlap too much.

Theater wants you to have enough chars of each element

[lyric cargo]

the main thing you're missing are the recent meta supports (Furina, Citlali, Xilonen, Escoffier)

[lyric cargo]

you'd likely run:

• a Bennett team (Arlecchino or Kinich)
• a Mualani team (Xilonen, Sucrose, and a unit for off-field pyro application)
• an Escoffier team (Ganyu or Ayaka)

[graceful kayak]

as what we know till now
nod-krai characters would be stronger than skirk/mav?(c0)

[strange scarab]

How are we supposed to know that

[lyric cargo]

I'd expect around the same power level, power creep isn't that fast

but who knows!

I expect chars to be outclassed ~2 regions after they come out

unless your name is Arlecchino and the pyro archon is one region from coming out

[crimson plover]

Let's see if that happens to skirk

[graceful kayak]

maybe bcz always every new nation have stronger dps's than the provious?

[strange scarab]

So you wanted us to answer based on feeling and not by number?

[graceful kayak]

lauma got 690k on scara

she not main dps

[strange scarab]

Wow scara the boss with negative res upon paralyzed

Impressive

clap clap

[lyric cargo]

I probably missed the cryo archon announcement

[lyric cargo]

most of us don't compare chars in those extreme scenarios, so we shouldn't know whether that's a lot or not

[crude dirge]

what could be rotation for arle bennet citlali kazuha

[void tundra]

anyone know the comparison between lauma lunar bloom vs c2 nahida ?

[valid anchor]

we will possibly (and publicly) know once their full skillset gets officially published.

[void tundra]

ohh okay thank you! also would the crit rate stack or nah (if we know)

[jaunty temple]

As a low spender, would it be infinitely better to pull for lauma and nefer, instead of nefer and her weapon?

What I mean is, would character to character always be better than risking and losing the money to the weapon banner?

[lyric cargo]

hasn't it been? it's on the fandom wiki
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lauma
has attribute scaling as well

afaik Lauma is better than c2 Nahida, but I don't know by how much

[honest heart]

help

also hi hidden

[lyric cargo]

got any highly invested hydro or electro dps you could use?

(this doesn't show cons / etc)

non- h/e dps can work as well, if they're able to fit in a team with electro-charged

Xq Yelan being used on turtle limits the options a bit

this is what I used

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874914804349939766/1402756442414514337/image.png?ex=68bd47fd&is=68bbf67d&hm=09fa5d4dd64f65ad55af9452f6646634c418b0200f47faa78452d7d3e8fa7256

[quaint fern]

Probably some chlorine Furina fischl team will work

[honest heart]

You can co-op menacing

it seems

[opal surge]

you can

[crude dirge]

still pain

unless 3 mega whales

[thorn bay]

Me and gurshan got carried by mid spender so not really

[crude dirge]

it took me with hidden50 like 3 hours of trying to figure out teams

[thorn bay]

And it took 3 minutes arguing who should get who

And got carried

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/gawr-gura-ishowspeed-hololive-holo-live-please-speed-i-need-this-gif-9722914297249474278

[thorn bay]

Cuz all of my builds are bad so…

[bright cape]

it's more about characters than builds

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1307177861894897817/1083056043526979714.gif

[thorn bay]

I have both problem

I can’t even do papilla with my chasca

[honest heart]

ye a single whale carried me

[lyric cargo]

oh, was this for menacing?
you only said help, I assumed it was for fearless (the mode that gives you all the rewards)

if you're able to clear fearless, you can just not touch menacing

might have to clear it once to unlock it, but on every future stygian

menacing this time has one difficulty that fearless doesn't (you have much longer to break the papilla shield)

[dense birch]

Reply/ping me to earn 142.4k Mora in ~90 minutes

Elite Mora runs are a super sweaty Genshin coop activity where you basically kill elite enemies that drop 200/400/600 Mora, following along a set route with 3 other people. You do this for all 4 worlds and by the end (of this route) you gain 142.4k Mora and ~60k artifact EXP

• Route: -6 fork for 4 worlds of LLs
• World Level 8️⃣/9️⃣ - Starting UID: 745937730
• Time: <t:1757179800:t>
• 4/4, full~

[paper cargo]

Is this good enough?

[bright cape]

yes

[paper cargo]

Perfect thanks!

[crimson plover]

more cr would be nice if you run double hydro

[paper cargo]

My idea was to go skirk - furina - escoffier - shenhe or citlali depending if i manage to keep everyone alive or not, not sure if that's an ideal team or not, just heard escoffier was made for her basically

[bright cape]

escoffier is enough sustain for the team

[clear ginkgo]

Xingquo c6 build: 4p of the inazuma purple set right? Just dunno how to get his hydro damage up besides the hydro goblets. I have Skyward on him.

[strange scarab]

well show the build then
preferably an enka card

[bright cape]

atk% hydro cr/cdmg

[haughty lotus]

Give him favonius sword

[bright cape]

skyward won't be that bad

[haughty lotus]

But its worse

[quaint fern]

What's your uid?

Oh deleted D:

[bright cape]

really?

[clear ginkgo]

🤷

[bright cape]

yah. just go crit rate circlet.

and u r kinda done

may be change a bit of sands too

[clear ginkgo]

still atk% on the sands?

[quaint fern]

Depends on the team, your ER is a bit low

[bright cape]

with that low ER, might as well go ER sands

[clear ginkgo]

oh i have a 90 skyward I just put on him.

[rugged sparrow]

19 useful subs only

doomed

[quaint fern]

Just put the fav in the bag

[bright cape]

even fav won't reach 190%

[rugged sparrow]

but Fav has particle proc

[clear ginkgo]

ya 5 star fav only gets me 181%

[rugged sparrow]

(refinement doesn't matter for subs)

[quaint fern]

Pray the particle proc is enough

If you're running a second hydro then sac would be better

[bright cape]

i had him on 200% and even that was not enough for stygian

[quaint fern]

Okay but stygian is stygian

I think I had him at like 240 for papilla

[strange scarab]

Almost as if you dont start with 0 energy

[clear ginkgo]

As always depends on who i run with as always, i just slot him in where ever really.

[bright cape]

then favge is the best

[clear ginkgo]

I just wana build him better bc he's in the theatre and not touched his build in a minute.

[quaint fern]

It's actually so bad bc you can't proc fav or sac 😭😭😭😭

[clear ginkgo]

its so werid taht at c6 you just have this problem and 2 crowned x.x

[quaint fern]

Crowns don't really change anything

C6 is already helping you btw

If you have a good ER sands, go for that

[clear ginkgo]

Not really for the Inazuma set.

[bright cape]

do u have PJC?

that can balance crit ratio very well here

[clear ginkgo]

naw

I have an ER% for sands: atk% 9.8 and it just rolled a 12.4% on the last roll into crit damage. other is flat def and hp%[13.4%]

ya that piece is better

233% ER o-0

[haughty lotus]

a minor damage increase on a character that isnt the main dps isnt worth making everyone else get more ER

[quaint fern]

Just make sure to swap to CR circlet

[clear ginkgo]

I need a better one first o-0

any team suggetions to just test with him?

[umbral sedge]

Wawa fleggs

[haughty lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951972847675387991/1352977409762263060/bba_zzz250322.gif

[umbral sedge]

🪣 🪣

[quaint fern]

🌙 🥀 👉 🪷

[forest venture]

https://tenor.com/view/arlecchino-no-genshin-kick-stfu-gif-12139039536167387453

[bright cape]

what a weird team.
I really feel like not having nahida c2 is really crippling me

i might have better team than this. but c0 nahida is not enough

[livid grove]

Is it worth to build Layla? What team does she work with?

[hazy lotus]

not rly that weird this is just quickbloom and afaik was alhaithams best team idk if that’s changed with any new releases

[bright cape]

oh ok. thanks

didn't know furina worked.
I always use xingqiu

[hazy lotus]

furinas slower hydro app lets u get decent amount of spreads and can also enable u to run mh on alhaitham

[thorn bay]

She’s great with hu Tao/arlecchino as her shield is real strong and she can apply Cryo with her burst. But she is worse than citlali. She can also work with skirk.

[bright cape]

holy MH alhaitham. that didn't even cross my mind

i will try that in upcoming abyss

n i have key on furina. so em for alhaitham too

now furina is contested by neuvi, skirk n alhaitham too

@thorn bay i just put some left over pieces from neuvi farming n got another 1% build on my 1st limited alhaitham

ok. i gotta try him on this current abyss now

makes me want to get lauma now

[thorn bay]

113 is crazy

Wah

[bright cape]

n these were all left over pieces

just levelled that sands

[thorn bay]

230cv

315 em

That’s crazy

96.7:264.9

[bright cape]

may be my alhaitham can again be used 😭

he would have gotten the first cons if he was on the list of characters

[thorn bay]

It looks like farming for alhiathen and giving left over to neu

[cedar flint]

overload mav

[bright cape]

sadly playing MH alhaitham with a bit cursed

xingqiu's interruption resistance is out of question

and furina drains everyone to half

i think kuki alone's healing is not doing a lot

[bright cape]

yah. i missed citlali 2 times

because of my wrong math

i will get her next time for sure

[thorn bay]

Em em healing bonus maybe??

Ig team heal ya

[bright cape]

kuki already hurts herself so much during her skill.

furina on top of that

i will try to see if I can make her tankier

now that i got r5 xiphos, ER can be subbed for HP

dps has definitely increased fair bit

[lyric cargo]

was going to say you can on-field her for a bit, but it's an Alhaitham team
not something like Nahida Xq Yelan Kuki

is this for stygian? if so I'd just risk dying and reset if it happens

[thorn bay]

Just to test top 113 my alhaithem

[wild meadow]

henlo, update from my last run, i now have beated the first 2 bosses, this tophat boss i got him to under 7% but time out, while im trying out to beat this boss, can you guys share any team you guys use for this tophat guy?

[cedar flint]

Have you tried to use a character that doesn’t need to burst for hydro to break the shield faster? that’s really the only reason I can’t kill cus I use my yelan

[opal surge]

It should be very reasonable to get yelan burst up before the hat phase

I did xilo e -> yelan e and I had burst

If you really need the help you can yelan e out of the gate and then it's back up after hats are done shuffling

So U 2E on yelan that should fix any er problems

[cedar flint]

ye but than I don’t have her burst when I can actually dmg the cactus

[wild meadow]

so u use sac bow on her?

lemme try it out ig, im on her signature rn

i do feel like i have enough er tho

[opal surge]

no its just back up without sac

[opal surge]

you do

[nova elbow]

Is a c2 iansan worth building or wait for c6/any higher constellations? I know she's good on Mavuika teams, but I already have the premium team (citlali/Xilonen/bennett)

[rugged sparrow]

yes

c2 Iansan is on par with Xilo for Mav team depending on enemy

you can put Iansan there so you have Xilo elsewhere

[nova elbow]

Interesting. Thanks. I took a 6 month break so I'm not super educated on the natlan characters

[earnest spoke]

Hi I'm grinding to get 540 pulls by the time columbina releases so that I can get her c1 r1. I was wondering if someone could help me somehow get 15 pulls towards that today. My UID is 681631126 and my world level is 7. Thx!

[cedar flint]

540 for c1 and r1 only?

are you like preparing for the worse

[crude dirge]

to get c1r1 u need maximum 350

if u go to max pity both times

which is like below 1% i think

[rugged sparrow]

??

[crude dirge]

or how much

[rugged sparrow]

540 is correct

but it's such a highball number

[crude dirge]

oh wait not c0

[earnest spoke]

Should I grind for lower?

[rugged sparrow]

hard pity is statistically improbable

so yes
you also get refund from 4-star copies and weapons

[crude dirge]

max pity for weapon is 80 right

or they claim it is

[cedar flint]

With 500 pulls I got c2-6 ganyu so

[cedar flint]

It’s like 77

[crude dirge]

yeah i think they say its 80

[earnest spoke]

How much should I grind for

[cedar flint]

as much as you can

always can use it for something else

but you got a lot of time until she comes out so you can relax

She will most likely take the archon spot

[earnest spoke]

No not really I can't play everyday, because I'm with my mom a majority of the days due to split custody. I can only play at my dad's so I wanna get as many pulls as possible and as quickly as I can

[cedar flint]

can’t play on phone?

that’s what I do when I’m away from home

[rugged sparrow]

you're already 525 pulls from what I'm understanding?

since you only want 15 pulls to hit 540

if so, then you don't need to grind anymore unless the universe really hates you lol

[earnest spoke]

No, what my goal was to get 15 pulls everytime I'm online. I don't have any pulls saved currently, but my goal changed to 360 just to guarantee columbina and her weapon when she comes out

[rugged sparrow]

oh bruh

[earnest spoke]

I'll get the cons and refinement ranks on later reruns

[rugged sparrow]

just shoot for around 300 yes

15 pulls everytime you're online is... kinda a stretch though

unless you have 0 region explored

[valid anchor]

first of all, we don't know (if or when) she is coming as a playable character. It can be sooner, or quite later.
If you're aiming to get 15 pulls (2400 ) everytime you're online, probably the best investment will be purchase packs, especially since the double bonus for first recharge will be available after maintenance.

[earnest spoke]

How many should I get whenever I'm online

[rugged sparrow]

I mean if you can get 15 every time you're online consistently, good

[crude dirge]

average is like 2 per day if u dont grind new location

[rugged sparrow]

but it's not really possible if you don't have region(s) to explore

or quest(s) to be done

[earnest spoke]

I would have to ask my dad for primo packs and I'm already saving up for a gaming pc

[valid anchor]

15 pulls = 2,400 primogem. If you have a to explore, then go ahead and try it. If you don't, then purchase is the most suitable option.

[rugged sparrow]

am just saying that you're setting your expectations a little too high

[valid anchor]

no need for a gaming PC if you wanna play Genshin in high quality. You can go cloud, whenever is available. You'll need a decent network, however.

[rugged sparrow]

also like Yoan said
no idea when Columbina is arriving
devs say Columbina is gonna be the archon-equivalent of Nod-Krai so just basing it off previous archons release date, she's still at least 6+ months away

[earnest spoke]

I wanna get a gaming PC because I wanna get away from console. Xbox is okay, but I would like a gaming PC for better graphics in other games, a wider game library, and so I can stream and make YouTube videos better

[cedar flint]

no need to waste money on digital gambling

[earnest spoke]

Agreed. I never win anyway, so it would be a waste of money

[earnest spoke]

However, yoan was trying to help

[valid anchor]

Do you have a console? Try to do a remote play, to grab your active games from Playstation 5/Xbox Series S(or X), and use a window capture in OBS. Less PC GPU overload.

The Better graphics in other games is kinda (...) not substantial, especially when the trend is to play on the road (that's why some gaming handhelds are being more promoted on the market).

[earnest spoke]

But, yea I can't spend my money on digital currency

[cedar flint]

ps4 graphics is already more than enough imo more is not needed

It’s not like I will play a game just cus it looks realistic

[valid anchor]

as a friendly reminder, Genshin (and all the HYV games) are F2P with digital purchases (some of them restricted for minors). Those digital purchases makes the profits and pay for the maintenance of the servers running 24/7 and the technical staff doing the maintenance, plus other payments needs to be done.

[cedar flint]

ai auto respond

[valid anchor]

then, remember PS4 will be phased out next version onwards.

[cedar flint]

Actually it will still work for the next half a year

https://tenor.com/view/orphie-zzz-nerd-gif-2924897640950104872

[valid anchor]

yeah, but will be gradually phased out. FFXIV has the same problem as Genshin nowadays.

[cedar flint]

and besides i meant graphics wise

no point in chasing the highest setting

As long as it runs smoothly is enough

[valid anchor]

technically, no need, indeed. (Rather, in console you can't make many adjustments)

[cedar flint]

Not that game companies know how to optimize their games now days tho

[valid anchor]

the problem relies in Sony, that's why PS4 is being gradually phased out.

[cedar flint]

They probably will stop supporting it soon

When they announce ps6

I remember the good old days when ps4 was all the rage

[valid anchor]

FFXIV technically will be phasing out PS4 in the next major patch (around 6 months), unless they are in the need to phase it out earlier due technical concerns.

[cedar flint]

Well I don’t care about the online mmo of final fantasy

[valid anchor]

that's another big game, around 160 GB.

Genshin is 125 GB

[cedar flint]

So it’s irrelevant to me Genshin is the only relevant one

[valid anchor]

probably the improved graphical update from next version onwards won't be noticeable on PS4, but it'll be on the other supported platforms.

[cedar flint]

Probably cus of the ugc stuff

Well I will be buying the ps5 pro next month either way

[valid anchor]

hmm... I'm afraid 160 GB won't be enough for a full genshin install, including UGC on PC nor console.

[cedar flint]

Ugc uses only available models ingame

so not really a storage increase

it’s probably more about the actual hardware requirements to load those stages

[bright cape]

why do many use double hydro in nahida kuki team?

is xingqiu alone not enough?

[cedar flint]

nahida is a beast and apply too much dendro

[crude dirge]

u need a lot hydro

[opal surge]

That's not actually the case, Xingqiu is enough hydro app to cover the hyperblooms

Yelan is simply the highest damage on the last slot

Hyperbloom is roughly half hyperbloom damage and half talent damage

[crude dirge]

i think it will be more aggravates/quickens without 2nd hydro

[opal surge]

It won't be

[bright cape]

how much worse is alhaitham?

i am in confusion to run alhaitham lauma or nahida lauma if i get her

[opal surge]

Alhaitham xingqiu nahida kuki is a more hyperbloom focused version of alhaitham teams (because xingqiu is enough hydro for hyperbloom)

its worse than quickbloom versions, especially when artifacts outgrow standardization

[opal surge]

theres also caveats yelan is not the best option in the last slot in aoe because yelan does purely single target damage

[bright cape]

any thoughts on MH alhaitham?

i found out kuki not being able to heal enough

and prototype amber nahida sounds very cope

[cedar flint]

Well kuki is not really a team wide healer

and I don’t think you build her with a healer build in hyperbloom

[bright cape]

yah. she heals like 3.5k every 2 seconds

i do see the dps increase but it's very weird

kuki herself hurting supports fanfare a bit

[opal surge]

It's very good

Alhaitham furina quickbloom performs very well and feels very good to play imo, it's the only alhaitham team I play nowadays

[bright cape]

with proto amber nahida?

i dunno if nahida does enough damage

so there's dps loss from moving her out of sacfrag

[opal surge]

No

Kuki is plenty

[bright cape]

mine only heals for 3.5 k per tick

2 seconds

[elder bluff]

that's more than enough

[opal surge]

That's fine

[forest venture]

units are usually around 17-19k hp, that's around 18-20 fanfare stacks

[opal surge]

Fanfare is also just not that important

30-40% of your team's damage is simply unaffected by fanfare in it's entirety

Kuki is enough to keep alhaitham topped and to make sure you get some fanfare every rotation for talent damage

Furina hydro app is sporadic and infrequent so you get good amount of quicken stuff while also getting hyperblooms

[forest venture]

oh it's hyperbloom

[bright cape]

thanks

one thing i hate about nahida is how i have to swap out of alhaitham

in multiwave

and all of alhaitham's infusion is removed

lauma would be decent upgrade. right?

[cedar flint]

Well she indeed apply dendro off field and she will buff the hyperbloom dmg as well as shred dendro so she should be good

[raw acorn]

idk who I should put on my team,

Jean, clorinde, xiangling and mona
Or swap Mona with sucrose

[rugged sparrow]

who are you planning to focus on? team isn't functional at all

[raw acorn]

Oh I'm not sure, my friend would play on my acc when I stopped playing for a bit so she just set up this team, I do want clorinde to stay in my team though

[rugged sparrow]

account sharing is against ToS, just a reminder
also what chars do you have

[raw acorn]

I've got, raiden, diluc, mizuki, keqing, xingqui, beidou, uhh and some more but like those are all under lvl 20 and i cba to level them up

[rugged sparrow]

unlucky then

[raw acorn]

💔💔

[rugged sparrow]

none of them really work with Clorinde, spare for Beidou that can kinda work

[bright cape]

omg. she also heals at c1

[raw acorn]

What teams does clorinde work in well??

[bright cape]

at this time, it would be a god send if hoyo can release a new character who can change hp periodically other than furina

[rugged sparrow]

aggravate, quickbloom, overload, and even EC are all valid teams for her

[raw acorn]

OKAYY TYY !!

[vale isle]

Hi, is there a way to cancel a started quest? Ive accidentally walked into an activation line and even when I restart the game it begins again 💔

[cedar flint]

Nah you’re cooked

[fast rock]

lauma,kuki,yelan and xingqiu for hyperbloom but can I replace xingqiu or yelan with ayato and do more dmg?

[cedar flint]

Ayato and do more dmg don’t go hand in hand

[rugged sparrow]

you're bottlenecked by dendro app if you run double hydro, running Ayato to on-field will not help

on-fielding Lauma should yield better results

[crude dirge]

just do first dialogue and never come again

[void tundra]

do yk if the fixed crit rate (c2 nahida + lauma) will stack?

im gonna guess it does ???

[rugged sparrow]

based on the wording yes

[void tundra]

omg thats so good then ?! (i think? 35% cr total)

idk how good thatll be lol

[rugged sparrow]

better than 0

[lyric cargo]

yeah, main problem being that it's a bit too much dendro application for hyperbloom?

Nahida, Lauma, solo hydro, electro?

maybe for a Nilou team

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[void tundra]

i was planning on doing bloom team !!

[lyric cargo]

unfortunately they just released stygian onslaught, which is completely single target focused

as the main kind of endgame content

[rugged sparrow]

just gotta wait until there's double boss / triple kenki in SO

[lyric cargo]

Was going to say, maybe they'll put bosses that can split, or something like that. but that'll be occasional

I guess they can force you to have a good AoE team and make it so Neuvilette can't do it

[rugged sparrow]

genuinely how

[void tundra]

oh yeah true sighh i alr have c1 nahida so i might as well go for c2 ive been waiting for a rerun so now i gotta go for lauma at the same time

[rugged sparrow]

[void tundra]

nah ive heard you can still make neuv work with lauma

[lyric cargo]

if your character attacks in a straight line, they drop dead

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

the one person who would've benefitted from the old char constellation selector

seems they decided archons don't get to be on it

[void tundra]

BRUH LITERALLY☠️ im just gonna go for keqing cause shes already c6 meaning ill get the stellar thing

[lyric cargo]

actually, though: AoE tulpa fight
gl with your hydro

[lyric cargo]

good choice

[rugged sparrow]

3 dendro Nilou team lesgo

[lyric cargo]

and you'll use it for that one stygian, then put it in the box until the boss gets a rerun

[rugged sparrow]

gotta love stygian

[opal surge]

Who's gonna carry me in menacing when the inevitable lunar shill comes and I have no NK character

🥹

[bright cape]

is ascendent gleam always better than nascent gleam?

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

At least for now there's not really any great direct lunar bloom dmging characters

For ascendant looks better if you're running bloom lauma

[cedar flint]

Actually with all the buffs you get from nascent gleam there is no much difference in terms of dmg

so don’t be afraid to use either with the right set up it’s around the same

[lyric cargo]

it'll all depend on what they decide to release in the future

but it seems they want lauma to fit in two different kinds of teams

[crude dirge]

lunar burgeon and lunar shatter when

[bright cape]

anyways. i cleared with this alhaitham.

@thorn bay i can see how good lauma is gonna be for this team.

nahida having to reapply E everytime is not very convenient.

[bright cape]

is lauma better as deepwood holder?

or someone else in that team

[valid anchor]

hmm... we don't know. We have new artifact set for Lunar users, btw.

[whole spoke]

Am I the only one who can't do the Stygian Onslaught on Menacing and up 😭 The Papilla either one shot me or I never have the time to finish it. I have most people I could think of using but I still can't do it 😴

[opal surge]

for menacing kinich or chasca are by far the easiest to break th e shield with

menacing is coopable for what its worth

[calm oriole]

Can anyone help me with my arlecchino team?

What should i swap or improve for her to do more damage?

[opal surge]

that looks fine

[nova swift]

Not as fine as you

[haughty lotus]

her build is pretty good but you could change your flower for an onset and offset your circlet

citlali needs ttds and doesnt have enough ER, give her ER sands and a lot more ER subs, if you cant reach it with instructors put her on 4pc scroll and put xilo on 4pc petra or 4pc instructors

[calm oriole]

I mainly used sac frags for the er i might be able to get enough er with instructors so should i keep xilonen on scroll?

And should i swap arlecchino to an em sands?

[haughty lotus]

losing the atk buff from ttds is a pretty big loss and sac wont help much with energy and youll make the rotation longer anyways

probably want EM sands, but id check optimizer

[calm oriole]

Alright then thanks a lot

[haughty lotus]

np

[cedar flint]

Lauma buffs burgeon

[somber trellis]

hey peeps ive been searching online for an answer but cant find anything. does anyone know a better way to chat with people when im in ps5? sometimes im matching and dont have discord and typing in ps5 is a nightmare (i thought there was an app but i think im confusing it with animal crossing lmao)

[sick quarry]

Can the Crimson weapon from Arlecchino work on other characters for BoL?

[opal surge]

as in will you gain the BoL on other characters? Yeah, probably

There is no other polearm character in the game that can use BoL positively, nor is it possible to get more than 30% to trigger the bonus of it on any other polearm though

Bond of Life is a debuff

[cedar flint]

You can try the ps remote play app

should allow typing from your phone when set up

google for more info tho I only know how to use the ps4 app version

[valid anchor]

Use the Playstation app itself while you're running a PS game. You can also use a keyboard (BT/USB) on the PS5.

[violet cipher]

which set of characters should I focus on improving? The Mavuika or the Skirk/Escoffier?

ig this can be paired with Mavuika actually

[vapid egret]

Who is skyward harp BIS for? I might have lost 50/50 on Chasca's weapon

[nova swift]

Amber

[vapid egret]

Aw man

[haughty lotus]

No one

[somber trellis]

tysm!!!

[somber trellis]

didn't think of connecting a keyboard to my ps5, tyy!!

[hearty solstice]

how long does it take for the teyvat interactive map to update? i'm planning on only exploring nod-krai when the interactive map updates so I can get every chest 😭

[bright cape]

do these 4 make good team?

dunno how good barbara's hydro app is

[cedar flint]

well it’s hydro for sure

[violet cipher]

If I had better rotations, could I beat this stage? If not, is the problems bad artifacts or cons/no sig?

[quaint fern]

at about 30 sec into the video, you should have just started your dps window instead of doing the chasca thing

the amount of nightsoul that do you from setup should be sufficient to push the papilla into it's vulnerable phase

you just need to output as migh damage as possible within the window

I cant really comment on rotation

[hazy lotus]

idk if ur no sigs c0 team can do dire tbh the c0 chasca clears ive seen even with sig or support cons are pretty tight but i could b wrong

[quaint fern]

you sort of do the same thing at around 1:10

oh wait this is dire huh

yeah idk if you can clear but you can definitely be doing a lot more dmg

[violet cipher]

So like, instead of Chasca skill I use bennet and Q, citlali Q, and by that time the bar should be gone so Mav burst?

[quaint fern]

if it hasn't then wait before mav bursting ig

mav skill should also be on cd earlier so maybe start with that? idk

[violet cipher]

Oh, yeah ok.
For the record, Chasca has their sig, Bennet is C6 with that 5* standard sword that heals you if you get hit - besides that it's all C0 R0.

[cedar flint]

Aquila

[violet cipher]

yes

[lyric cargo]

it's decent on many chars, you can ctrl + F for it on each tab here:
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[lyric cargo]

Kaveh's only niche is healing from taking bloom damage, in Nilou teams

it's not particularly good, especially since it seems bloom self dmg was reduced by 60%:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MAPVFEWbgwI

Barbara's only really used in Nilou bloom as well.
I guess her standing compared to Kokomi might have improved a bit with the self-dmg nerf. She might now heal enough on her own.

[lyric cargo]

kuki is decent in hyperbloom. do you have Xingqiu?

[cedar flint]

Ye he lost value the moment they nerfed the self dmg lol

Bro became a real option and fell from grace in a span of a week before the patch was even out lol

[lyric cargo]

I wonder if burgeon self-dmg was nerfed as well. maybe that's his real calling now

not that burgeon is currently a thing

[cedar flint]

well she buffs burgeon and I saw 172k burgeon dmg

[lyric cargo]

it's so over → we're so back → it's so over

[cedar flint]

So thoma might have a real team

[bright cape]

yes.

i am considering lauma to buff my alhaitham

dunno how much sense that makes

[cedar flint]

well she can definitely can work with him

[bright cape]

my nahida is only c0

[lyric cargo]

problem is trigger units, right?

172k is absurd, is that with high cons?
burgeon has the same damage scaling as hyperbloom, and 60k is roughly the limit right now with c2 Nahida

[cedar flint]

And if you use Aino as well you can move him to the new set or use furina for mh

[bright cape]

may be i can transfer most of her artifacts too

[cedar flint]

Lauma

C0

her cons are mostly pathetic