📌gimshim-help

[worthy iris]

Okii

[uncut herald]

Friend’s bp28. Is it possible to hit bp40 in time?

[thorn bay]

Ye

[quaint fern]

We still have two weeks

[uncut herald]

Is bp 50 doable?

[quaint fern]

Should be doable with the event bp stuff + max for this week and the remaining time

Event bp quests are the most important here bc they don't count towards your weekly 10k cap

Just make sure they max 10k every week

[uncut herald]

Got it thank you

[valid anchor]

Hmm... Right now? Very hard.

You can also purchase levels, btw.

[dusty cape]

[strange scarab]

[elder bluff]

I don't care much about bp but still finished it with plenty of time

[thorn bay]

Ye just playing the game as usual just finishes the Bp fast

[crude dirge]

u shouldnt u eventually max it near end or middle of patch

[lyric cargo]

I think I hit bp 50 before the second banner phase

might depend on events whether 50 is possible in one phase (?)

[lyric cargo]

oh, with more than halfway done already it should be possible

[exotic parcel]

Among all the Pyro DPS, what is Yoimiya's current rank?

[hazy lotus]

Low

[graceful kayak]

what is the rotation of this team?
mav-citlali-iansan-bennet

[digital herald]

Hi everyone, just wanted some advice :’) I’ve come back to Genshin recently after like three years and I was running Xiao, Bennet, Zhongli and Mona (Zhongli is necessary because I can’t dodge). I’m planning on swapping Mona out, but I’m not sure where to swap it with Jean or Faruzan (both C0). I thought of Sucrose too, but I’ll be using her in another future team (flins, ineffa, aino, sucrose). What would be the best option? I’d appreciate some tips :) I’ve got kazuha too.

[lyric cargo]

I assume you don't have Faruzan at all, currently?
she's basically the best buffer you can imagine for anemo damage dps, especially at c6

Jean isn't c4 I assume?

I believe Xiao really needs his burst, so I'd go with Bennett + anemo supports with fav / sac sword

Xianyun + Furina is a good support duo for Xiao
Furina is a good general support to have

Xianyun I'd call niche, so unless you want to absolutely main Xiao maybe just go with Bennett Furina c4 Jean

Sucrose with sac fragments can be good for energy for now
her main thing is VV res shred + EM buff, but that's not useful for Xiao

[digital herald]

I do have her, at c0, but I’ve got more constellations of sucrose

[digital herald]

Nah c0

Ok so considering I don’t have furina and my jean is at c0, would my best option be to go with faruzan?

[lyric cargo]

ah. c4 Jean shreds 40% anemo res, so that would've been a reason to use her

[lyric cargo]

I believe c0 Faruzan is still good, but her energy requirements will be extremely high

[digital herald]

Ahhhhh but I’m meant to use this support as a battery bc of xiao

Damn this is hard

[lyric cargo]

Xiao, Bennett, Faruzan, [Jean / Sucrose]

fav bow Faruzan
fav / sac sword Jean
sac fragments Sucrose

[digital herald]

So get rid of zhongli

Ok that’s viable too

[lyric cargo]

yeah, Zhongli is only for comfort

it's pretty much what he does on all teams

[digital herald]

Yeah his shield is really good

I’ll use Jean since sucrose will be mostly in another team then

[lyric cargo]

Bennett already heals, so the shield is mostly for interruption immunity
it can also prevent getting oneshot

[digital herald]

Cool cool

Thank you so much

[midnight pond]

do chasca optimal teams ever burst or just e?

[graceful kayak]

mav e - bennet ult+e - iansan e + few m1 attacks + ult - citlali e + ult + sec e with sacrifice fragment - mav ult
thats it?

[lyric cargo]

afaik, chasca's burst is good. but building enough ER to burst reach rotation as solo anemo takes too many substats

so like every other Natlan carry, she completely neglects building ER and uses the burst when it happens to be available

[lyric cargo]

Mav E
Iansan EQ
Bennett EQ
Citlali EQ
Mav Q C3F C3F CF

the combo on Mav makes sure cryo remains the aura on the enemy, so she can melt her hits. if you just do donuts with her, pyro aura will take over

F = final attack (let go of her charge attack after 3 hits. she jumps up and hits the ground)

Iansan needs to do a normal attack between skill and burst if she is not c2 or higher

Citlali can do EE with sac fragments instead of EQ

Bennett skill could be skipped, if he has enough ER to get his burst back without it.

(it's very comfortable to build high ER on him, as he needs no other stats and Stygian Onslaught prevents us from pausing the game. a Bennett without high ER has to wait for particles in the first rotation, as we start with 0 energy.)

[opal surge]

in an ideal world chasca alternates betwen shooting a 5th CA if you do CA cancels well and bursting instead

More comfortably you simply just burst ever other rotation

[crude dirge]

is nymphs dream best set for dps mona
i have no idea what i could use other than 2 pc combo🥀

[lyric cargo]

I don't think any set will enable mona to be a dps

[crude dirge]

nymphs dream gives her most i think

[lyric cargo]

first problem should be she needs to build way too much ER

[crude dirge]

planning to use 2 fav already

and today i got hydro goblet with 23% or 22% er (on golden troupe but i dont have furina😭)

[haughty lotus]

Just use 2pc2pc, you’ll get bored of dps Mona before you get close to a good 4pc nymphs

[bright cape]

xingqiu angle?

[crude dirge]

i still dont have a single cr circlet on emblem
i rather use goblet with 11 cr or so

and i somehow have like 3 decent crit dmg circlets on emblem

[bright cape]

what are the best weapons on standard banner?

[forest venture]

the best weapons on standard banner are for those who come after

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[forest venture]

everything
exclude the skyward spear, claymore, and aquila (unless u want the extra base atk for bennett)

[bright cape]

thanks

isn't spear good on raiden?

[haughty lotus]

Like 1% better than catch

[bright cape]

how does it compare to PJWS?

spine passive looks like they benefit raiden a lot

[feral reef]

Is that my goat memesilces

[haughty lotus]

Slightly better than skyward 🤭

[bright cape]

oh no. i already have that

[haughty lotus]

Is that my bestie torikatsuuSSG

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304540031980933201/1389286008561864906/fufufatwae.gif

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-thymefield-alice-zzz-alice-thumbs-up-zenless-zone-zero-hanamasa-gif-1358513487101773344

[bright cape]

what would cryo ranking have been if there was no escoffier?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Gh5C0JCjoX4

[opal surge]

probably around hydro but also are we not going to adress that hydro rotated for a million years

[thorn bay]

This also made on docs. Nice 😞

Ok fine ig I have to read the instructions

[bright cape]

yah. i am confused what was the stopping poing.

[thorn bay]

Now it looks kinda correct

[bright cape]

how is ur google sheet dark?

[opal surge]

it is dark by default on phone is it not

its dark for me too at least

Maybe its generic phone theme settings

[thorn bay]

Skill issue jk

[bright cape]

oh i use on desktop

oh nvm. it is dark

it's just not that dark for me

[thorn bay]

I feel like fav trigger twice :/ not sure

[bright cape]

with furina, once only

[thorn bay]

Ok

[bright cape]

i think u need to be on-field to trigger it

[thorn bay]

I swear my chasca and furina has less er but bursts actually every rotation

Im def doing this wrong

[opal surge]

take chasca out of furina and 1 fav trigger

chasca is not meantt o burst every rotation

under standardized ER she actually doesnt even burst every rotation with c4

even though c4 gives her energy

[thorn bay]

She still bursts quite often

[opal surge]

Not accounting for abnormal hp particles because of vertical

[thorn bay]

I did and only Citlali is giving her particles

[opal surge]

Citlali shouldn't give her the particles

Or at most 50%

[thorn bay]

Ok

[opal surge]

Building/playing around chasca burst every rotation is bad, it's simply a DPS loss

Because of opportunity cost

[thorn bay]

Ok

[opal surge]

If you want to optimise chasca gameplay I would advice to learn how to do CA cancels on chasca and then alternate 5CA with 4CA Burst every other rotation

[thorn bay]

Not sure why but …

[thorn bay]

So I start with doing 5 ca and next rotation 4 ca and burst?

[opal surge]

It's because chasca burst isn't great, and her ER requirements are absurdly high because she doesnt play anemo supports

and the ER of her teammates are high because she is naturally incentivized to not stack single elements

[opal surge]

Would be 4CA Burst first rotation, and then 4 CA + a 4 Bullet 5th CA every rotation where you dont have burst

[thorn bay]

What about double pyro?

[opal surge]

doing 4 CA + a 4th bullet 5th CA is effectively almost the same damage as bursting

Chasca has no pyro teammates that actually care much about ER, its mostly about the non pyro characters

(except bennett, but I take it as a given that people have ER on their bennett

[thorn bay]

I should get c1 Bennett because of furina right?

[opal surge]

It would be nice to have, sure

The actual restriction probably doesnt affect chasca much at c0 though

[bright cape]

does VV chasca work?

[opal surge]

work as can she trigger it yes

work as in is it good for her no

[quaint fern]

LC chasca SURELY

[bright cape]

what's LC?

lunar charged?

yah she would get superbusted if she has 3 teammates who can trigger various lunar reactions with each other

[tawny vigil]

shoudl i use wolves gravestone or verdict on mauvrika

[worthy iris]

wg

[lyric cargo]

Verdict is ranked above it, but I'm not sure how big the gap is
if it's small enough it might depend

it's also a question of whether the other weapon would lie in inventory or be used by another char on the team

her sig is far ahead of the rest of course

[lyric cargo]

@tawny vigil ^

Verdict 103.30%
WGS 102.34%

so basically the same
might depend on which gives you better crit ratio (closer to 1:2 after buffs like 4pc codex)

[opal surge]

not that it changes much but thats wgs with max uptime

its probably more like 2-3% apart

(still within range of artifact optimisation though)

[azure raptor]

Quick question, my chevreuse is c0 on fav, how much er and cr is enough for her? (209% ER and 12% CR currently)

[crude dirge]

definetely get more cr on fav

with cr circlet should be like 40 without maybe 20

[quaint fern]

I would go for at least 40 with or without cr circlet

if you can hit it without then go for smth else

like hp if you're not at 40k

[lyric cargo]

much easier when you don't need to worry about other stats, like for Xilonen
building CR doesn't feel hard at all there

but if I look at my Iansan
I gave up a bunch of ER on the goblet to get more CR

this was her previous build
21.3% CR not really doing it even at r5 fav, nevermind r3

[quaint fern]

[lyric cargo]

r5 Xiphos?! give ^^

is that from the Skirk banner?

how big are your crystallize shields?

I'm not actually sure if crystallize is level scaling

yup, it's level scaling

[quaint fern]

this is from my r2 key incident

[lyric cargo]

come to think of it, healing scales of def which scales with char level as well

you should clearly lvl90 😛

[quaint fern]

i'm broke LOL

i'm at like 550k mora, so I'm waiting to crown skill

[lyric cargo]

damn, wrong Bennett sig

I wonder if this is better than sapwood for stygian

[quaint fern]

it can work if you have high er

tbh I dont think I could have used aquila for my ganyu clear if I didnt have external er

and I already have pretty high er for my build

it goes to like 275 with xiphos?

fav probably would help more but I needed the extra em

I dont think I could do ins bennett bc my er will suffer too much

[lyric cargo]

I have 299.1% with Sapwood
was hoping for skyward blade to get a bit more

[crude dirge]

i have like 260 with sapwood🥀

[lyric cargo]

it's nice to have very high ER in stygian, as they make you start with 0 energy

you can see I ignored the main stats to get more ER

ER sands, EM goblet, hp% circlet
instead of
ER sands, hp% or pyro% goblet, healing bonus or crit circlet

[quaint fern]

honestly fair

just give him the faruzan treatment

[lyric cargo]

if I'm going to use aquila, I might need to strongbox more noblesse

hmm, let's say I need to run another set if I want aquila
something that gives energy, like 4pc scroll or 2pc 2pc

would losing the noblesse buff to go from sapwood's base atk to aquila's be worth it 🤔

I knew I'd seen that somewhere recently

[fiery wigeon]

Okay so I am building varessa, uhh I got a question how do you ratter her is it just spam e normal attack plunge then Q when its available?

[opal surge]

its ecap ecap q ecap ecap q ecap

so yeah pretty much

[fiery wigeon]

Ah thank you so e 2 plunges q, e 2 plunges, q 1 plunge then rotate her team ,got it

[lyric cargo]

1203 flat atk buff with Aquila (TL13)
1051 flat atk buff with sapwood (TL13)

c2 r1 Mavuika has 1299 baseAtk, so 20% atk from Noblesse is like 260 atk

so at least for the highest baseAtk char, Noblesse buff is better than going from sapwood to aquila

152 / 0.2 = 760
at 760 baseAtk, the 20% noblesse buff and sapwood → aquila change break even

I guess for dpses with 5-star weapons, noblesse buff should be better

[languid zodiac]

what items do i use to get good items/artifacts from the parametric transformer??

[lyric cargo]

there's a list here:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Parametric_Transformer#Reward_Distribution

but I'm not sure how large of a difference it actually makes

so you might want to base it on what fuel you don't need

I used to use meat, fowl and eggs for it, trying to get specific rewards

now I wish I'd kept the fowl

[opal surge]

what do you need fowl for

[lyric cargo]

in co-op elite runs, I sometimes use NRE to avoid deaths

sweet madame its one of the few reasonable dishes to cook for that

most dishes require some ingredients I'd have to buy from shops

[bright cape]

that's quite a lot of ER

[lyric cargo]

I'll probably need more, if I want to burst in Stygian on the first rotation

[bright cape]

mavuika and one skill does the job. usually

[lyric cargo]

that was the case with 299.1% ER as well

I was hoping skyward removes the need to wait for particles from Bennett skill, but maybe that's not important

so long as it doesn't take more than that

[opal surge]

it wont

Mavuika skill is 5 pyro particles, 5 caught same element particles is 15 energy

bennett would need 400 ER to get burst off that alone

Mavuika skill + bennet E is 7 particles at worst, 8 at best, 7 particles is 21 energy, meaning bennett needs 285 ER in the worst case to get burst, 250 ER in the best case

Calculating first rotation exact ER need in onslaught is quite easy, at worst you are off by 1 energy because of NA energy - there are no HP particles in the first rotation so you can get the exact number

[bright cape]

how about this one?

mavuika skill -> caught by cheveruse -> she skills and procs fav and gives all those particles to bennett

how much would bennett need on this one

[bright cape]

not bad

is there a doc that explains how this works?

looks like 222.22 is from 60 * 100/27

[opal surge]

i mean realistically this can never happen btw but yeah

[opal surge]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Energy

[bright cape]

oh thanks.

[bright cape]

why not?

[opal surge]

because chevreuse must have overload before u E

so there must be electro particles in play before mav

[bright cape]

i usually do that rotation

[bright cape]

with ororon, somehow electro appears

[opal surge]

ig but u will still ororon e before this

[bright cape]

what happens if cheveruse herself doesn't overload?

[opal surge]

chevreuse doesnt need to overload

[bright cape]

i thought her res was anybody in team could overload

oh ok

[opal surge]

but there must be an overload before her E

otherwise she doesnt get her ball

[bright cape]

what happens if she doesn't get the ball?

[bright cape]

it's minor dps loss right?

[opal surge]

you lose 40% atk

[bright cape]

oh i see. i might be missing out on a lot of buff then

lemme try

[bright cape]

omg. the difference is too much. 2.9k to 3.6k

i will always wait from now on.

sadly i have not been able to use ororon on stygian

@opal surge I have modified the rotation to wait a bit. is it ok?

[opal surge]

is there a particular reason why you dont want to simply go to ororon before chev

[bright cape]

but i will try to move him around and see

[bright cape]

also i think i wanted her c6 buff to stack 3 times. so i was like trying to use her skill as early as possible

still i don't think i can recieve 60%

not as bad as i had thought.

[opal surge]

c6 stacks on the onfielder and not in general

[bright cape]

oh i see. that's a weird con right?

[opal surge]

well its not teamwide

it would be the most broken con in the game if it was teamwide

I dont think its that weird

[bright cape]

like for mavuika to get all the stacks, it would take 6 seconds

[opal surge]

up to 6 seconds in the very worst case yeah

[bright cape]

and buff runs out after a few seconds

[opal surge]

a lot of buffs ramp or decay

[bright cape]

mavuika's whole donut runs out in 6 seconds

[opal surge]

thats just how it is

[bright cape]

oh ok.

[opal surge]

40% average damage is absurdly strong

its more like 50% average

[bright cape]

u know what. i was thinking it was teamwide

that's why i used to use her skill as soon as mavuika's E

so it can stack well on everybody

n by the time it reached mavuika, she will be at 60% to do lots of damage

i don't think highly of her c6 now.

she works fine at lower cons

[opal surge]

its quite possibly the strongest 4* con in the game

and rivals many 5* cons

50% average dmg is adding a whole furina into the team

just by a con alone

[bright cape]

i feel the same way with furina too.

her dmg bonus doesn't feel effective

[opal surge]

you have a strange perception of power

[bright cape]

i guess since she is paired with kazuha and xilonen. that's why

missing swirl on kazuha feels more painful

than not bursting on furina

[opal surge]

think youd be surprised by the actual numbers things like furina and chev c6 add

it turns varesa from a fontaine dps to a natlan dps

[bright cape]

oh ok

so now i recall i am doing the same mistake in my raiden team too

so do i go raiden e, xiangling e, cheveruse eq, bennett qe, xiangling q and raiden q?

i was doing raiden -> chev early on.

[opal surge]

raiden chev qe

[bright cape]

dunno if chevy's own e count as fireball

[opal surge]

if abyss

else yeah xl e

[bright cape]

that's true. but sometimes chevy doesn't have her burst back

i need to get her a good circlet

[opal surge]

past the first rotation you dont really have to worry aobut it, you will have a ball from the rotation anyway

[bright cape]

oh u r right. that's genius

however, i do want to get enough ER.

shooting E 3 times after Q is very satisfying

[unreal abyss]

hi i need someone who has
c6 characters that i can add for theater pls

[bright cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXlrB5UqXY8

he might clear dire before me

i thought it was f2p. but nvm

[haughty lotus]

For serious?

I thought his whole thing was “don’t spend money on this shit game”

[bright cape]

technically it's not him spending

just viewers giving him topups

nothing he can do against i guess

[haughty lotus]

Just not use it

[bright cape]

upto now he as been getting welking

that's forcibly used. right?

[haughty lotus]

Just start counting the welkin primos you can’t use 😌

[bright cape]

anyways he is going very vertical investment with the stygian onslaught in mind

he already has c2 mavuika

he keeps saying c1 in video.

[feral reef]

yes

[crude dirge]

hide the uid

[twin lark]

Hi, is anyone free right now to help me clear menacing mode of stygian onslaught for the dust of enlightenment? 🥹UID is 808993368

[hazy lotus]

p sure there’s no rewards for clearing in co op past hard but i could be wrong

[twin lark]

For menacing you can get dust of enlightenment for coop🥰

I need it for my shitty artifacts 🥰

[hazy lotus]

Oh lmfao it must be fearless that stops rewarding co op then

sure i can try

wait no ur not na lol rip

[twin lark]

😢😢

Thanks for offering

[haughty lotus]

How is your day king

[lyric cargo]

depending on the team, he might have 3 clear particles from Xilo fav as well
though with default rotation, that makes Mav's particles non-caught.
(unless I go Mav E → Ben E → Xilo E N2 → Ben)

[bright cape]

uid can sometimes appear in places other than bottom right.

[crude dirge]

then just blur it from here too smh

or just not sure for primos what they get

[bright cape]

it's his twitch viewers

hard to do it live

also sometimes he might have to coop with them

to collect mats or complete the stygian onslaught

[crude dirge]

can uid appear anywhere other than menu and bottom right

[crude dirge]

then just not use crystal for primos

[bright cape]

it's fine. i just mentioned that

ultimately it's his choice

[viral mulch]

whels

[waxen python]

hello, could anyone help me make sigewinne team?

[timber spire]

whats the best burina build

[cedar flint]

I will be honest with you her only “dps” team is with furina and esco

[lunar swift]

how long does the yelan detective event take

[waxen python]

Super quick

[lyric cargo]

I'd look up a guide, sometimes it's not super clear which items you're supposed to look for

[lyric cargo]

leveled up the Aquila I got from standard
let's see if the ER ever makes me swap back

[crude dirge]

i have 220 er with aquila

my bennet subs are too bad

[cedar flint]

Em goblet

I guess he doesn’t really have good goblet options

[lyric cargo]

kinda, his only good stat is ER

if I could choose the mainstat, it'd be either hp% or pyro dmg%

circlet either healing bonus or crit

I think the damage contribution is low anyways, so probably better to have the healing for when you use him with Furina

but otherwise.. the highest damage gain is never extending rotations by needing multiple skills to get burst

[bright cape]

why em though?

also no healing bonus

[elder bluff]

could be the juicy ER subs

[opal surge]

it probably is his highest ER goblet

literally nothing else matters

[rugged sparrow]

wouldn't be able to facetank Cocijo without muh heal Bennett

[opal surge]

Maybe you would if you werent getting lvl 110 overloaded because of him

[rugged sparrow]

8k+ heals Bennett saves me

[bright cape]

same. his healing is one of the best

only tulpa is problem

aside from him, i have rarely died in his circle

[lyric cargo]

in elite runs, it's kinda useless 😅
doesn't heal to full, so always at risk of getting oneshot by local legends (particularly at high world level and with multiple players in the party, giving enemies more atk)

[bright cape]

i mean sometimes it can jump directly to full with 8k

but it's not that bad

[lyric cargo]

right, that's nice for Furina (overheal triggers off-fielder healing)

[bright cape]

omg. i just realized that part of furina kit is so anti-bennett

they were trying really hard in fontaine

[lyric cargo]

also enemies that trigger reactions off the pyro aura

[bright cape]

yah. tulpa is very dangerous

does EM help him get bigger numbers?

[lyric cargo]

who, the Tulpa?

the EM on my bennett isn't useful

it's just my highest ER substat noblesse goblet

[bright cape]

oh ok

i dunno how viable burgeon bennett is

[lyric cargo]

you'll get burn vape
with someone like Furina vaping from off-field

[opal surge]

I would put a def circlet over a healing bonus circlet on bennet if it had just one ER substat more

thats how little mainstat matters

[lyric cargo]

I'll see if I can stop strongboxing tenacity and start doing noblesse again

layla isn't done, but has 2 pieces I stopped leveling at the first missed roll

maybe I should look at a build for damage as well

not sure how relevant her team dmg share is ever going to get, on teams that can clear stygian

[bright cape]

is that enough to burst?

[lyric cargo]

when it comes to crit goblets, the situation is alright
enough for both Layla and Furina

[lyric cargo]

in general? I'm not sure
but she can get more ER rolls on sands / circlet, they're only at +8

[bright cape]

oh my bad. i didn't see it

i dunno if we have to burst to maintain tenacity

[lyric cargo]

not promising

[midnight pond]

does anyone know chasca c2->c3 dps increase?

[nova swift]

@native loom

[opal surge]

~12% personal

[midnight pond]

hmm ty. debating pulling for it

[lyric cargo]

might want to compare to investment on teammates
I assume you have r1 already?

[midnight pond]

yea. teammates are tough since the prem supports are contested with my other 2 main dps, mav and neuv (c1)
vs c2r1 chasca
5* supports all c0

[bright cape]

is there a particular boss chasca is very good at?

like almost it was shilled

turtle for mualani, SSOAD for skirk, cactus for ineffa

[valid anchor]

Chasca is pretty good against Papilla. Being anemo means she's pretty versatile against other bosses.

[opal surge]

papilla

[lone rampart]

looking for a whale who has cons or ineffa for stygian onslaught pls

[worn lily]

Do you get anything other than primos and level up materials for Yelans summer event?

[valid anchor]

nothing else.

aside a picture you can see in your inventory.

[worn lily]

Oh good I wont miss much then ty

[strange scarab]

You defo wont need whales just for menacing

[quaint fern]

I finally got a good clear on video, just made a few changes to nahida and bennett builds to give them more ER, also accidentally trolled at the end by ganyu bursting instead of nahida bursting

https://streamable.com/acszne

[lyric cargo]

What's Bennett's ER here, btw?
it looked like you were using his hold skill?

last rotation had no Bennett burst because you didn't want to wait for particles, right?

[bright cape]

congrats

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1294733495343517826/928515871553495091.gif

btw does ganyu gain interruption resistance with some con?

or does she have that by default

[viral mulch]

wunkus

[viral mulch]

not in any part of her entire kit

i didnt watch the clip but the supposed ir prob happened from xilonen crystallizing

or c1 xilo if he has it

[tropic thistle]

Does Citlali's Tribal Quest have an effect on Natlan Act V, also other world quests prior to version 5.3 update ?!?!?!?

[elder bluff]

the only effect is you see more characters in act V

[tropic thistle]

Including Citlali's tribal quest ?!?!?!?

[elder bluff]

there is noone from her tribal quest

[tropic thistle]

I see so I can skip Citlali Tribal Quest or for like 100% characters there, I need to like complete the pilgrim's chronicle ?!?!?!?

[elder bluff]

100% characters in act V requires: children of echoes tribal, scion of the canopy tribal, flower feather clan tribal, the world quest about little one in ochkanatlan

[tropic thistle]

Thanks so that means I have to complete the world quests for little one pre-ochkanatlan ?!?!?!?

[elder bluff]

yes

[tropic thistle]

Ah okay, but the tribal quests only needed are pre 5.3 so Mualani, Kinich, Kachina, Xilonen, and Chasca, I assume Citlali's tribal quest happens after Act V timeline wise ?!?!?!?

[crude dirge]

i barely have any rep questlines done

and im already getting my last tribal done

[elder bluff]

master of the night wind tribal has 3 parts. only the last part requires act V

[tropic thistle]

Ah so the actual Citlali Tribal Quest has an Act V pre-requisite ayt, so all I need to do left is Mualani's Tribal Quest (which is the first tribal quest that I accidentally activated and benched till this day LMAOOO) and little one's peak world quests till Ochkanatlan, thanks !!!!!!!

[opal surge]

@lyric cargo oh yeah we were talking about substats the other day, if we count the 5 substats citlali has then

[zealous ledge]

Looking at non 5-star weapon options for Citlali. Thrilling Tales vs. Sacrificial Fragments, which is the better option?

[opal surge]

ttds

[zealous ledge]

Okie tysm <3

[lyric cargo]

44 out of a possible 45

only 8 subs on the sand
dragging down the build quality!

the goblet is looking like something Escoffier might steal

[rugged sparrow]

what in the whel

[quaint fern]

258.1, just slightly higher than my regular build

[quaint fern]

I don't have xilo c1, turtle spinning just has super low interruption

[dapper heron]

Guys I finally got my account back😭😭😭

After 2 years 😭😭

So emotional right now

How good/bad is it.

@opal surge remember when u said ill never get it back😭

Or something like that

[dense birch]

Reply/ping me to earn 142.4k Mora in ~90 minutes

Elite Mora runs are a super sweaty Genshin coop activity where you basically kill elite enemies that drop 200/400/600 Mora, following along a set route with 3 other people. You do this for all 4 worlds and by the end (of this route) you gain 142.4k Mora and ~60k artifact EXP

• Route: -6 fork for 4 worlds of LLs
• World Level 8️⃣/9️⃣ - Starting UID: 745937730
• Time: <t:1755880200:t>
• 1/4. Ping or reply to join~

[violet cipher]

Chasca/Iansan/Citlali/Mavuika
should I give Iansan and Citlali cinder or give Iansan nobless?
Also, my Citlali is only C4, should I use C6 Bennet instead?

[opal surge]

Im assuming thats meant to say iansan c4

It should be roughly equal for c0 chasca, c6 iansan would pull ahead to c6 bennett

[violet cipher]

I did yeah, Iansan c4.

[bright cape]

i was watching this zajef vid.

n he says the best arle vape team has ineffa. I am confused on what she does there

wouldn't that trigger overloaded or something?

[hazy lotus]

electrocharged doesn’t get rid of the hydro aura so arle can still vape

[bright cape]

oh ok

so ineffa is providing her own damage n shield in this team?

i dunno how good ineffa shield is

[rugged sparrow]

it's ok-ish

[opal surge]

It's just trading the carries damage for a subdps damage

Teamdps moment but in practice it often performs worse

[fading ledge]

what do i do i tryed doing the quest but the bird was not coming down

[lyric cargo]

if the target has both hydro and electro aura, a pyro unit can trigger vaporize and overload at the same time ("overvape")

it kinda seems like Ineffa is a competitive off-field option because she just came out. genshin's gradual power increase giving her numbers higher than older, comparable units

it might not remain a preferred option for too long, if the synergy isn't actually good and it's just numbers

if you prefer playing Arle with a shielder, there's synergy in that

[bright cape]

wow. i didn't know overvape meant that

that sounds very cool.

we get two reaction from one pyro app

[viral mulch]

spork

[neon harness]

🤠

[quaint fern]

skork

[bright cape]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-childe-childe-genshin-tartaglia-gif-8879470240933492083

[feral reef]

boys im s tuck again
who should i build

anyone not starred
not built

@haughty lotus i need ur wisdom

[quaint fern]

why is arle not built :huh:

[feral reef]

idk

ill build her now

[bright cape]

why no wanderer?

[feral reef]

i frogot about his existence tbh

lore accurate!!!

😢

[bright cape]

time to use the dust

[crude dirge]

its just 3 liner with only 2 good subs

[feral reef]

thank you ed sheeran

for letting me see the light

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye-kanye-cat-gif-9334290556842141514

[cedar flint]

strike me instead

[viral mulch]

holy smite

[lyric cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9_DgrYWMFw
How good is this? Does it make Escoffier an actually good Mualani support in Stygian (single target content)?
Does it raise the ceiling on Mualani teams?

[feral reef]

peak thumb

[opal surge]

Ive talked with vomfee about it it's nothing groundbreaking

There are a few practicality issues as well

Losing an entire teamslot is pretty detrimental to teamdps and this barely clears dire even when ignoring the practicality issues which this run certainly had (and reset for)

And mualani can clear dire without it

[sick quarry]

how would someone go about saving

[crude dirge]

bad

keep gambling

[lyric cargo]

find the minimal set of chars you'll need, and go only for those

2-3 dps and their good supports
might have to skip one and go for them on a rerun, if you're short

[haughty lotus]

That you do. Yae venti arle clor ||chasca is an option but man is she ugly as vruck||

[feral reef]

thanks goon

[sick quarry]

merci !! ill make sure to take a look for only those that i need ^_^

[trail nymph]

What’s a good starter team with Mualani?

[lyric cargo]

it's hard when you're still catching up
you can post a screenshot of your char pool here for advice

once you're "caught up" and don't need to pull on many rerun banners anymore, things get less tight

[lyric cargo]

she needs off-field pyro application, and then just as many buffs as possible
VV res shred on hydro is good
EM buffs are good
so are dmg% buffs
hp% buffs would be good, but there are few beyond hydro resonance

for off-field pyro application, probably pyro traveler. they can hold the scroll set for a 40 dmg% buff to hydro
it seems you don't currently have an anemo unit if you're using traveler there

come ot think of it, if you're not ar45 yet you won't have artifact sets like scroll (on natlan supports) or VV (on anemo supports)

[trail nymph]

ok cool, so would pyro traveler work alongside Sucrose if/when I get her?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[sick quarry]

im recently starting a new account with a friend of mine, so we'll only have traveller & amber by the time we get the wish function

[lyric cargo]

note that it usually takes ~75+ wishes to get a 5-star (at which point it's a 50/50 between the featured one on the banner and a worse standard 5-star)

[crude dirge]

i think its more like 77

[lyric cargo]

it's a 0.6% chance from wish 1 to 73
after that, it goes up 6% each wish

74 → 6.6%
75 → 12.6%
76 → 18.6%
etc

after a few wishes, it's basically "flip a coin until you get heads". very hard to keep missing again and again

[crude dirge]

on 77 flip the coin on heads twice

[lyric cargo]

what

[crude dirge]

24%

[lyric cargo]

ah, you mean it's as likely as hitting heads twice in a row

77 (graphic displays it as 4 wishes after soft pity) is also where the cumulative rate hits ~50%

equally likely to get the 5-star anywhere before 78
as getting it after

[dusk mica]

xiao is locked behind a quest and i dont even know how to find the quest omfg 😭 why do they do this shit

[crude dirge]

there should be some quest nearby it says the name

just look for quest with that name

[dusk mica]

yeah my fault lmao i found it i was just being stupid and missed it the first time

[dapper heron]

Aint this event over? Why is it still here?

[lyric cargo]

the area is permanent, I'd assume it's part of that area's quest line rather than the event 🤔

[dapper heron]

Oh nvm its the story quest

[dapper heron]

And hey I finally got my hacked acc back. After 2 years😭

[lyric cargo]

I've forgotten all about what was the problem
I assume you didn't have much in terms of proof it's yours?

[dapper heron]

Yaya

Finally found proof of purchase of the welkin moon and filed a new ticket. And yesterday I got it back.

[valid anchor]

the area is permanent. the quest is now a world quest. The event is over and you cannot get the weapon and their refinenemt materials.

You can purchase Bennett skin using 1680 from next version onwards.

[dapper heron]

Ohh

Which is better for yoimiya? R5 slingshot or R1 rust?

[valid anchor]

I prefer Rust.

[dapper heron]

Stats with slingshot

[rugged sparrow]

Slingshot

[dapper heron]

Any good?

[rugged sparrow]

could be better

just post enka card instead

[dapper heron]

Yaya am doing that wait

The arts are kinda shit right?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

ony goblet that's kinda okay-ish just because it's on-set

everything else is garbo

[dapper heron]

Ya I should start farming again. I just got this acc back. It was hacked 2 years ago

[rugged sparrow]

gl

[dapper heron]

She any good?

[rugged sparrow]

better than your Yoimiya at least

[dapper heron]

😂

[rugged sparrow]

26 useful rolls, it's meh

[dapper heron]

Character building and arts farming will forever be my most confusing task😂

[elder bluff]

too much HP and too low CDmg

[dapper heron]

Oh. Ain't hp supposed to a lot for her?

[elder bluff]

she does but not all focus on hp

[lyric cargo]

as far as substats are concerned, I'd just go with the highest total substat count
(or highest total motion value)
unless you want to use genshin optimizer

but you have two hp% mainstats. on sands it's good, but circlet can have crit which is better

[bright cape]

which one is the best candidate for upgrade?

[opal surge]

@rugged sparrow

I can clear this dire after all

[rugged sparrow]

whale..

[thorn bay]

Sethos

Ig Mona. she buff right??

[opal surge]

theyre all not useful and I would refrain from doing anything to them personally

[bright cape]

i just wanted to extract few standard pulls

also i will no longer have to think about theatre after that

[valid anchor]

personally, Mona. But it'll be up to you.

[bright cape]

i will definitely build her. she is c2

[sick quarry]

would people say that flins would be a good dps to save for?

[dapper heron]

Suggest a parties for ayato and one for scaramouche. Also how does the rotations work? Also any ganyu teams?

Shit just lost pity and got Mona c1. I really wanted chasca

[crude dirge]

ayato bennet xianling yunjin [[ayato Q bennet Q E xianling Q E yunjin E Q, ayato E and hold NA]]
scara faruzan layla yelan

i guess, no clue how scara works

[dapper heron]

Wow thanks mate

Any ganyu teams?

[crude dirge]

can reuse characters or different?

[dapper heron]

Ya any

[crude dirge]

ganyu layla sucrose bennet

rotation maybe something like ganyu Q sucrose E bennet E Q layla E Q sucrose Q ganyu E and spam CA

or dont use sucrose after ganyu Q since its ttds waste

[dapper heron]

🤍

[haughty lotus]

Ayato Bennett xiangling fischl

Ayato q > Bennett eq > fischl q/e > xiangling qe > ayato e > fischl q/e > Bennett e > xiangling e > ayato e

Wanderer faruzan Bennett Layla

Faruzan eCAq(or just q if c6) > Layla e > Bennett eq > wanderer

Ganyu Bennett xiangling Layla

Bennett qe > xiangling qe > Layla e > Ganyu 5CA e CA

Ganyu Mona sucrose Layla/rosaria

layla/rosaria eq > Ganyu eq > sucrose e > Mona eq > ganyu 2CA > sucrose e > Ganyu CA

[crude dirge]

why fischl over yunjin for ayato

[haughty lotus]

Because yunjin is bad

High ER reqs and ayato isn’t the main damage source

[crude dirge]

fischl is likely to just throw enemies around with overloads

[haughty lotus]

Just chase them
And without fischl you’ll get less vapes

[crude dirge]

chase them means possible bennet circle loss and dps loss

[sly lava]

how much em does alhaitham need

[crude dirge]

just with stats maybe 400 not buffed

[sly lava]

is 374 good mybe

[haughty lotus]

Yunjin is a guaranteed dps loss, and both xiangling and fischl snapshot

[bright cape]

is ifa c0 better than mizuki c0?

[crude dirge]

yes

[haughty lotus]

Depends on your other stats
Send your build with enka.network or use optimizer

[bright cape]

they really dropped ball on mizuki

[crude dirge]

five star powercreeped by a four star couple patches later

[sly lava]

here it is

[crude dirge]

try getting other circlet maybe

[sly lava]

thats the best one that i got out of the domain but il keep looking

i have another one with 19 percent atk and 21 em but i lose 13 percent crit dmg

[haughty lotus]

Build and em looks good, needs more cr tho, easiest to replace the feather

[sly lava]

i tought that the feather was good or no

[haughty lotus]

Only 5 useful stats and there’s no crit rate which you’re low on

[neon harness]

[spark loom]

Helppp

[worthy siren]

ok

[crude dirge]

just say the question

[spark loom]

Any advices for citlali ?

[haughty lotus]

More ER and c6 Bennett

[haughty lotus]

Oh… haha, hey

[valid anchor]

just don't build it like mine.

[valid anchor]

tough choice. I would prefer to wait what's coming ahead.

[bright cape]

how did u build?

[valid anchor]

my Mona doesn't crit. She's sorta a full support.

[bright cape]

what artifact set?

I will be going supportive on her like noblesse or tenacity

[valid anchor]

Nymph's dream x4

[bright cape]

oh. nice that's dps build

[valid anchor]

4P After Normal, Charged, and Plunging Attacks, Elemental Skills, and Elemental Bursts hit opponents, 1 stack of Mirrored Nymph will be triggered, lasting 8s. When under the effect of 1, 2, or 3 or more Mirrored Nymph stacks, ATK will be increased by 7%/16%/25%, and Hydro DMG Bonus will be increased by 4%/9%/15%. Mirrored Nymph stacks created by Normal, Charged, and Plunging Attacks, Elemental Skills, and Elemental Bursts exist independently.```

[bright cape]

I am trying to find her use on skirk team

may be omen buff

[valid anchor]

mine goes there, but needs more time on-field, something Mona doesn't excel so much.

[bright cape]

like if I get escoffier, she will consolidate role of charlotte and chongyun.

then i can use mona with noblesse and ttds

@opal surge does it make sense?

my mona is c2

[crude dirge]

use a shielder and eshu

[bright cape]

no need. i have skirk's signature

the team will be tenacity furina, troupe escoffier and noblesse mona

[opal surge]

shes pretty bad in that slot but if you dont have citlali yelan mualani or shenhe she would probably be next in line

She is probably still worse than xq and dahli, possibly even mika, but not to the extend where you would really care

[bright cape]

i can see all. but why mualani?

there's no vape there.

it would be hilarious to put her on ttds

[opal surge]

scroll ttds

shes almost as good as yelan and shenhe

with citlali being slightly worse than the three

[bright cape]

oh i see

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1294733495343517826/928515871553495091.gif

[fading ledge]

need help with stygian uid 880079762 asia wl 8

[neon harness]

who are you, stranger danger smh

[haughty lotus]

oh you probably know me by Nuts III, sorry I keep changing my name around 😅

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

who tf

[haughty lotus]

Mainly just keqing, Clorinde can also use it in dendro teams

[neon harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249408446110109724/1254893216642236477/gifkitties_-_1751470205652332749_1.gif

[haughty lotus]

Personal space please

Oh thanks, I’ll take 2 welkins and 1 bp

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/wriolette-get-on-genshin-hop-on-genshin-wriollette-wriothesley-neuvillette-gif-9740654992459029819

[haughty lotus]

Or else what

[neon harness]

[feral reef]

L Rizz

[haughty lotus]

#📌gimshim-help message I rest my case

[feral reef]

bro should i get the zzz skins

cro
sorry

[haughty lotus]

yes cro... I broke f2b status for alice skin

[feral reef]

u are p2g

pay to @haughty lotus

[haughty lotus]

formerly free to balls, now p2g

[feral reef]

https://tenor.com/view/vro-twins-cat-sillycat-gif-1670230978140696872

[haughty lotus]

is that us

[feral reef]

yes

[neon harness]

whele

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/goon-trauma-goon-aether-genshin-impact-aether-genshin-gif-7632592053224760712

[haughty lotus]

Relatable

[nova swift]

Not as relatable as you

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/kitasan-black-satono-diamond-umamusume-satono-diamond-tongue-kitasan-black-knockback-gif-1546071629347855274

[haughty lotus]

Good night to you too, guoballs.

[strange scarab]

[neon harness]

goon night*

[forest venture]

?????

[worthy siren]

is it true that cryo res uptime with furina yelan coffee is really bad so you prefer a crit rate circlet on MH instead

[opal surge]

Yeah

Well the cryo Res part anyways, what circlet you want depends on your artifacts and weapon

[worthy siren]

Hows my build shown here then

[opal surge]

It's pretty good

[worthy siren]

https://tenor.com/view/hugging-while-crying-funny-gif-11652030322984251134

[neon harness]

not as good as u

[strange scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191917691037036609/1410116026699354203/image0.gif

Eblanon soon

[neon harness]

wtf

[haughty lotus]

Not as terrific as you

[inland patio]

so i got her yesterday and shes cuttently my best character

is this good for level 60?

[crude dirge]

what ar is that

[inland patio]

30 to 40 ish

[crude dirge]

c2 recent character at ar 40 🥀

[crude dirge]

did u swipe

[inland patio]

All i wanted was 6/6 ifa

before that i got

1 mulani
3 chasca
2 Qiqi
1 Mona
13 ororon (i got 4 in 1 10 pull)

[inland patio]

[crude dirge]

6 fivestars in 300 pulls is crazy

AT AR 40

[glad flower]

And still have 40 pulls let for Flins

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/miles-edgeworth-ace-attorney-capcom-gun-minigun-gif-25057292

[inland patio]

what

[crude dirge]

how the hell do people with ar 40 get 340 pulls and i cant save more than 20 at ar 59

ever

[inland patio]

my geo only account pulls 2 itto in the same 10 pull

• it was the second pull on his banner

[crude dirge]

i only got double when i was pulling nahida and i won 2 50/50s

at like 80+ pity

[thorn bay]

Don’t you have any other weapon

[inland patio]

i didnt pull on weapon banner i wanted 6/6 ifa

[crude dirge]

slingshot maybe

[inland patio]

i took 140 pulls to go from 5/6 to 6/6

[thorn bay]

Try to craft chainbreaker or song of stillness

[crude dirge]

theres no way u didnt get slingshot in 300 pulls

[crude dirge]

its 3*

[thorn bay]

I mean sharpshooters oath would be better as a stat stick I think since she ascends with cr and 4pc obi

[inland patio]

why tho?

[crude dirge]

slingshot is amazing

[rugged sparrow]

do not use Slingshot on Chasca

[crude dirge]

does it count it from the start of holding or smth

[inland patio]

thats what i was told

[rugged sparrow]

craft Chainbreaker or Song of Stillness

like nomi said

[inland patio]

ok

[inland patio]

were do i craft thoes

[crude dirge]

chainbreaker natlan song of stillness fontaine

[rugged sparrow]

Natlan / Fontaine craftables respectively

[inland patio]

which is easier

[rugged sparrow]

both are easy

[inland patio]

then wich is better

[rugged sparrow]

Chain Breaker is easier to trigger

Song of Stillness requires you to be healed/losing HP in the first place so that calls for Furina for good uptime

[lyric cargo]

for what it's worth, the weapon banner is pretty good if you have both Chasca and Mualani

fav sword and fav lance are among the best 4★ weapons to pick up, even up to 4 copies at r5 would still be useful

that said, I'm not going to tell you to spend more money just that it's probably among the best weapon banners you could go for now that you have both chars

[crude dirge]

already a whale at ar 40

[thorn bay]

Song of stillness is better by dmg overall but you need to be healed to achieve more dmg but as for chain breaker you just need to have 3 non Anemo characters or natlan characters in your party

[inland patio]

i dont have a full natlan team

[thorn bay]

You don’t need ful natlan team

[lyric cargo]

I'd you see Sensi around, they probably have calcs on weapon options and how far they are apart

[inland patio]

C2
C6
C6
C0

[thorn bay]

Ye you’re gud

Only non anemo OR natlan character I said

Not and

[crude dirge]

and he has c6 bennet before me

[inland patio]

more like C14

[thorn bay]

And he has c6 ororon before me with Bennett with con with chasca c2

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920709476724649984/1366747511905058826/caption-23.gif

[thorn bay]

Absolute 
Whale
|_0_|
  | 

[inland patio]

You know the beginner banner
i got keching in the first 10 pull from it and dhalia in the second

[crude dirge]

so he has 6 five stars at ar 40

[thorn bay]

At ar 40 I had keqing and chasca no Bennett

[crude dirge]

at ar 40 i had wolfs gravestone and yae miko

[rugged sparrow]

you cannot get Dahlia from beginner's banner

[lyric cargo]

unfortunately Stygian Onslaught has killed my hope for my Ifa to be useful

the dps requirements are too high for most 4★ dps I think

[lyric cargo]

probably standard, then? if they didn't pull on Skirk?
Beginner banner is 1.0 chars only, right? but its pity doesn't count towards standard banner pity so in the long term I think standard is better

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[thorn bay]

Ifa in abyss would probably be way better

[inland patio]

i thought i did

nm i must have got him from standard

[opal surge]

clearly you have not seen the vision

https://bilibili.com/video/BV1GfeyznEvQ

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's not useful to me. abyss is already easily handled with the chars I have and / or need for Stygian difficulty 5 (fearless)

the other usecase is theater, though I was unable to clear any of the bosses with Ifa + c6 Faruzan + 2 random chars

[lyric cargo]

will check that when I get home

[opal surge]

its a 4* only dire turtle clear

[thorn bay]

I stated it like for fun

[inland patio]

where do i get these i cant find on interactive map

[opal surge]

[inland patio]

nm

found them

[crude dirge]

how

[inland patio]

wdym

[crude dirge]

how did u not find on interactive map

[inland patio]

i was looking on local specialties

[inland patio]

wdym easy

its taken 15 minuets just to craft the resepie

if these are ore ninguan can find them ye

[rugged sparrow]

would you rather Sumeru craftable

or Inazuman

[inland patio]

i just hate craftables

[inland patio]

it took 10 minuets to get 19 ore and

AND ITS THE WRONG ORE

i got iron not WHITE IRON

[cedar flint]

19 minutes? how

Also don’t you send your characters for ore expeditions?

[inland patio]

wdym

[cedar flint]

How someone runs out of white iron

yk the adventure guild expeditions

[inland patio]

nope

i havent played in ages i forgot how to change mc element

ik now but still

[cedar flint]

cus this is from expeditions only

I don’t collect them myself

[cedar flint]

when you talk to katheryne there is a button for expeditions

[crude dirge]

i ran out of weapon exp so now im out of ore

[cedar flint]

I have like idk 13k of the blue weapon xp

[inland patio]

yyou only get 6/7 x2 every 12 hours

[cedar flint]

do the 20h

and there is more than only 2 locations I think

[inland patio]

no you get less

[cedar flint]

no you don’t

[lyric cargo]

should be able to type in the name of the material into an import field on the map and search that way

maybe not every interactive map has that feature

[inland patio]

im in genshin

there are 2 loctions in monstad

you get
6/7 for 12 hours
3/4 for 20 hours

but you get more of the other two

nm 3 locations

2 monstad
1 liyue

[cedar flint]

either way after a few months you will have more than you ever need

[lyric cargo]

I'm not ingame right now, so can't check myself

the main reason it's rare to run out is you don't need them very often

I assume weapon banner isn't a consideration?

[lyric cargo]

mine are all on mora most of the time, but while the battle pass isn't maxed I have one on ore to fulfill the "mine 10 ores" daily objective

[valid anchor]

across al Natlan. Come on.

[marsh thistle]

hiiiiiiiiiiiii guuuuyssss can someone help please with teams i can't beat floor 12

[thorn bay]

Looks doable unlike mine and I’m just a newbie so don’t expect much from me

[glass tendon]

If u can’t beat it dispite having ineffa

That’s a skill issue

Anyway

What’s the line up again

[thorn bay]

Why Benny 80

[marsh thistle]

fuck you

i'm asking for help and ur just being mean

[marsh thistle]

💔

[lyric cargo]

what's the barrier you can't clear?

[glass tendon]

I’m gonna offer help but im gonna be mean first

[lyric cargo]

and with what teams?

[marsh thistle]

i can't max star the abyss

[thorn bay]

1. Emirates
2. Magma blob, fat green

[lyric cargo]

I mean which enemies and chambers

[glass tendon]

Alright

[marsh thistle]

uhhh chamber 3 mostly

[glass tendon]

U have a ineffa

[tardy jetty]

first half: ineffa, xingqiu, raiden and citlali?
second half: arle, kazuha, bennett and rosaria ig

[marsh thistle]

okay diva.. 💔

[marsh thistle]

okey thanks i'm gonna try that

[tardy jetty]

you're lacking healers atp

[glass tendon]

Is the cactus first half or second

[thorn bay]

1. Ruin stuff
2. Pyro abyss thing, chimkim

[tardy jetty]

first half

[thorn bay]

First

[tardy jetty]

second half is the mavuika ascension boss

[glass tendon]

Alright that team worke

[thorn bay]

1. Cactus
2. Tripod

[lyric cargo]

first half has the cactus, you need either electro-charged or a strong electro or hydro dps

second half is the pillar maker automaton. to clear that comfortably, you want a char capable of easily climbing the pillars

[glass tendon]

Uhhh

@marsh thistle move citlali to second half

[thorn bay]

Not sure why Citlali there

[tardy jetty]

that's why she's a question mark there

[thorn bay]

Ok

[tardy jetty]

i wasn't sure who to put there

[lyric cargo]

Chasca should work second half, I'd think?

[thorn bay]

Ye totally it’s single mobs

[tardy jetty]

yeah can replace rosaria with citlali

[glass tendon]

The multi enemy may pose a problem

(Ones before boss)

[thorn bay]

It’s all single mobs

[lyric cargo]

I don't recall the multi enemy in second half

[glass tendon]

U forgot the first two chambers

[glass tendon]

Alright

[thorn bay]

Still sibgle

[glass tendon]

Chasca works

[thorn bay]

I TOLD YU WHY YOU DUNT TRUST MII

[glass tendon]

U died to a spider shut up

[thorn bay]

HUNGER RESET

[glass tendon]

Skill issues

[thorn bay]

IT WAS HUNGER RESET

WDYM

[marsh thistle]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii okayyyyyyyyyyyyy

[marsh thistle]

okay sothis should be good right.........

[rugged sparrow]

uh

Fischl instead of Rosa

[thorn bay]

Ineffa raiden xingqui ayato maybe?? I’m dumb so don’t like trust much
Chasca Bennett pmc Citlali maybe?

[thorn bay]

Ya that works but no Rosario

[rugged sparrow]

I'd rather Chasca 2nd half unless your Arle is giga stacked

Chasca Bennett Iansan Cit

[thorn bay]

I didn’t see iansan sorry

[marsh thistle]

iansan is only lvl 70 tho

[rugged sparrow]

is she also c0

[marsh thistle]

she's c2

[thorn bay]

Also why Benny 80

[rugged sparrow]

already usable then

[marsh thistle]

okayyyyyy so uhm

[lyric cargo]

can try both, if the first doesn't work
I think I'd try Chasca first, assuming both are equally built.

She's quite easy to play, so if it doesn't work it's likely not a question of skill and trying over and over on second side

[marsh thistle]

she has homa and she's c0

[rugged sparrow]

it's also 75% nightsoul dmg for Chasca

[thorn bay]

0 em

[rugged sparrow]

I mean you probably won't melt with that team

unless u dont burst with Kaz

[thorn bay]

I think you also need some sort of er?? No??

[rugged sparrow]

c0 Arle doesn't need ult

[thorn bay]

Ok

Noted

[marsh thistle]

okay so uhm!

i'm confused now!

[rugged sparrow]

...?

[thorn bay]

No

You got it wrong

[marsh thistle]

sorry

[rugged sparrow]

keep the first half team (Ineffa Raiden Xingqiu Fischl)
2nd half you run Arle or Chasca

[marsh thistle]

okay awesome i'll try with both thank u so much

[opal surge]

Chasca aoe issues makes her quite bad against first half tbh

[rugged sparrow]

it's Chasca 2nd half

Hidden meant "try Chasca first" because the other option is Arle

[opal surge]

Oh try chasca first as in

Okay yeah I see I'm being silly

[rugged sparrow]

Sensi not beating the gacha players allegations

too much horse

[opal surge]

trueing

[rugged sparrow]

also I'm super tempted to pull for Seed...

Seed + Corin or Seed + Anton sounds fun...

[opal surge]

I actually took a break from ZZZ (and all other gacha except genshin) because I was busy

But i need to come back to get orpheus for anby

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

I didnt play horses for like 2 weeks almost

[rugged sparrow]

starving your horses to death I see

what a model trainer

[thorn bay]

[opal surge]

i was busy with wow tier releasing and malding with dire resets

[lyric cargo]

and I'm being unintentionally ambiguous

that's probably how the asker understood it as well

[rugged sparrow]

I should be busy playing Last Epoch cuz new update too

[thorn bay]

They did

[rugged sparrow]

2nd half at least

[thorn bay]

@lyric cargo

[marsh thistle]

okay then i'm gonna try this team just flip the things and yeah

[opal surge]

all the mald was worth it though

(for 20 days)

[rugged sparrow]

dont

Chasca is dogshit 1st half

[thorn bay]

Insta fail

[marsh thistle]

yeha

[opal surge]

I think they meant they'll flip the teams

[marsh thistle]

i'm gonna flip it around

[opal surge]

whos not reading now

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

yeah, this was a mystery to me until I saw how Sensi had read it

[haughty lotus]

Smh these gacha players

[rugged sparrow]

why they put Chasca 1st half in the first place

[rugged sparrow]

who u pulling next in ZZZ dear maymay

[thorn bay]

Absolute 
Whale
|_0_|
  | 

[lyric cargo]

Citlali in the empty slot

[haughty lotus]

Mayhaps orphie or just waiting for Lucia, et tu?

[rugged sparrow]

was initially trying to save up for Vivian re-run but Seed looks tempting...

Im rn just emptying my pulls to get m1 Alice

should be able to get her before banner ends

[haughty lotus]

Not the dawgs…

Got m0 Alice when I originally planned to skip

https://tenor.com/view/alice-thymefield-alice-zzz-alice-thumbs-up-zenless-zone-zero-hanamasa-gif-1358513487101773344

[rugged sparrow]

also Komano being A-rank
at least it means his m6 art is more affordable

hopefully it's him [CENSORED]

[opal surge]

Lets see how cooked I am in ZZZ

[marsh thistle]

double scroll gonna be fine?

[lyric cargo]

finally can hide what weapon you're using

[haughty lotus]

Yeah I thought Alice was gonna be A rank and him S rank lol

[rugged sparrow]

should be fine

[thorn bay]

Using dull blade and never know it

[haughty lotus]

8 favges

[rugged sparrow]

it's always Favge

[haughty lotus]

[thorn bay]

Scroll don’t stack right??

[rugged sparrow]

yeah Scroll doesn't stack

[thorn bay]

Ok noted

[rugged sparrow]

if they don't have good spare sets (Nob/TotM/Ins) I wouldn't worry about it too much unless you're barely clearing abyss

[opal surge]

oh wait its not even the seed patch yet

wait cinema I have so much time

[rugged sparrow]

ye next week

cuz ZZZ this ver. is 7 weeks long

no idea why but hey, I can guarantee m1 Alice this way

[opal surge]

werent you meant to pull yanagi cons

[rugged sparrow]

don't mention it

I've been eyeing for Alice since 2.0 trailer too

[opal surge]

Fair enough

[rugged sparrow]

and then of course Yuzuha is somehow a fucking anom dedicated support

forced to pull for both Alice & Yanagi DLC

when Yuzuha got teased I was like "surely she's Rupture support right???"
sike

[lyric cargo]

might also trigger scroll on different elements?
Iansan for electro + pyro, Citlali for Cryo

unless there's a way for Iansan to do all three using Bennett c6, but I think that's a hydro - Bennett - electro thing?

[opal surge]

they also have impossible ER reqs

[rugged sparrow]

I'm actually not sure if you can have multiple scroll effects active assuming 2 holders

[opal surge]

both of them if theyre off scroll

[rugged sparrow]

just c6 Cit with TotM tbh

[opal surge]

You can, but missing electro scroll is not a big deal here

[rugged sparrow]

a

[opal surge]

trueing

[viral mulch]

ts so not worth practicing at 60fps

[thorn bay]

I was like what is this and I’m still what is this

[viral mulch]

we are all what is this

[rugged sparrow]

oh this is the new tech right

ultra mald

[viral mulch]

i have a very strong feeling that at 60fps its humanly impossible for this to be better than cdn1 but idk

[marsh thistle]

well