📌gimshim-help

[crude dirge]

wait is that c2r1 arle

[rugged sparrow]

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye-kanye-cat-gif-9334290556842141514

[rugged sparrow]

non-existential downtime fun

[crude dirge]

why his c2r1 arle does as much dmg as mine with c0 white tassel

[viral mulch]

i wonder if mavu can somehow bruteforce the hat if its in abyss with lower hp tbh

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213544345509298286/1376415778299056209/togif.gif?ex=688ee496&is=688d9316&hm=17c0c490a300d1517fb1b84c16faeafd3b3920076b07c865193e3f90fe3ecb96&

[rugged sparrow]

idk go try hitting the boss

[viral mulch]

its 135% res to everything but hydro and electro so ig not still

[crude dirge]

does he have crazy res or smth

[rugged sparrow]

only one way to find out!

[crude dirge]

oh just charged

[viral mulch]

135% on everything but hydro and electro during gimmick

standard res is 10%

[rugged sparrow]

maybe

[viral mulch]

now i need to assert dominance over his arle completely so

thats the reason im posting it

[rugged sparrow]

[crude dirge]

yeah and kqm just put kokomi wherever they can where xingqiu could be put as well
except nilou bloom(?)

[rugged sparrow]

idgi

[viral mulch]

btw wrio/mavu solo gets like 3:30 total timer with no dmg taken as well lmao

[crude dirge]

i dont have ayaka and skirk and even if i had i just put esco and xingqiu or yelan

[rugged sparrow]

eugh

[viral mulch]

very balanced

[crude dirge]

do u not use wrio skill or smth

[viral mulch]

i know you misunderstood by sentence but just watch to find out

[rugged sparrow]

hes using physical Wrio fr

[viral mulch]

hey now i got the reason to post it

[crude dirge]

that one dragonspine catalyst🔥

why the hell is he a fucking machinegun

[viral mulch]

the revelation that is the 3:30 was the amount of time it took for the whole floor

[dapper heron]

@rugged sparrow hey mate this the weapon you said that's good for mav?

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[viral mulch]

now that i look at it again i legit cooked on that mavu cancels

the boy who n1cd'd

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304772607702470677/1366559811457646622/3dgifmaker38569.gif

[rugged sparrow]

rest in piss Wanderer

[worthy iris]

Hi y'all I need some ideas for my mavuika team comps. I have currently mavuika/xilonen/ benette / furina. Lmk some good team comps and also my mavuika is f2p build fyi.

[crude dirge]

can i use faruzan with skyward harp and like shim + gt

like 400%+ atk every 6 sec seems good

just by scalings

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[thorn bay]

Not mine but I heard it’s already triple crowned

[dull smelt]

is wgs better than whiteblind on itto?

[opaque niche]

Who should I use for my Varesa team?
|| It’s hard to share screenshots to my phone. Do not comment about the photos.||

[full sonnet]

Mauvika sucrose and Bennet

🤌

[haughty lotus]

Mav chev Bennett

[bronze cliff]

Hey guys i got back to genshin after a very long time and got a question. my favourite character is mualani and i got her on her first run. Now i'm back and saw shes getting a rerun in phase 2. my problem is i dont have any natlan supports so i was wandering what is her best team and should i save for the supports or pull for her cons/weapon?

[valid anchor]

Mualani is best for vape teams, she's the main damage dealer. Follow classic vape formula, but with Mualani as main attacker.

[bronze cliff]

okay thanks are the other 2 slots flexible or do you recommend certain characters?

[valid anchor]

usually 2 flex (Mualani / Pyro applier / flex / flex)

I'm testing something with Pyro MC C6, Iansan C3, Mualani and a flex (either Kokomi for heal or something more different).

Kazuha for crowd control, Xilonen or stuff like that.

[bronze cliff]

okok is there like a standard mualani vape team? i remember that her artifact set relies on other natlan characters in her party or is that outdated?

[valid anchor]

Mualani uses Obsidian Codex. One of their partners (in flex) usually uses Scroll of the Hero of Cinder City (both artifacts obtainable from same place), but Obsidian Codes doesn't relies in other Natlan characters, only herself (Mualani).

[bronze cliff]

oh okay i get it thank you!!

[valid anchor]

4p Cinder City enables Mualani to deal more damage, and can activate off-field (but can't stack) + 2p effect (energy regeneration), while Obsidian gives more damage deal in 2p + extra +40% Crit rate while on 4p.

while the only need is being in nightsoul blessing. Neat.

[haughty lotus]

Mualani mav/xiangling/pmc xilo Kazuha/sucrose/zhongli/candace(pre-c6)

[bronze cliff]

okay so for now i could run mualani xiangling,xilo and than kazuha/zhongli (i'll just see what I like better) and than when mavuika reruns i'll maybe replace xiangling with her. thank you!!

[idle furnace]

looking for assist on finding ore channel 😔

[strange scarab]

[strange scarab]

you dont have a single team that wants both

[full sonnet]

Would that be a nilou team?

[empty roost]

c1 mona or c1 dahlia for this skirk freeze team

[cedar flint]

It’s not hard but sure but probably like mavuika Bennett cheveruse

[strange scarab]

Can you shut up with your nonsense for once

[wicked locust]

Hmmmmge..what should people who don't have escoffier or citlali do in 12-1-1?

[plain ingot]

Should i try to get ineffa's weapon or continue pulling on character banner for more fischl and xinqiu cons? Ill be using the pity for flins anyways and i dont mind getting a ineffa copy

[wicked locust]

@rugged sparrow

[bright cape]

u just need a cryo on-fielder

for abyss, double cryo off-field with any dps works.

there is also option to go nightsoul but it's a bit risky

[uneven holly]

hello, returning player here. anyone here wanna help me fight citlati's boss? asia server

[crude dirge]

who could use shim but yoimiya and hutao🥀 i dont have any of them

[thorn bay]

Chasca

[crude dirge]

literally any natlan character

[thorn bay]

[crude dirge]

i wanna use on arle but no c2

[thorn bay]

Not mavuika tho

[crude dirge]

why not

oh energy

[bright cape]

why need c2?

[crude dirge]

instant mark

[bright cape]

oh i see

[crude dirge]

on c0 i will get only 5 sec of buff or only on 2nd rotation

[bright cape]

gladiators is better than shime though

[crude dirge]

on c2 maybe shim idk

my shim pieces are majestic

and she already uses shim pyro goblet cuz its the best i have

[thorn bay]

I mean almost every one who’s main dmg is ca/na/pa and scale on atk and has energy can use shim

Soooo…

[crude dirge]

'can use' if they dont need burst all that much

[thorn bay]

Ye I said almost every one

[crude dirge]

barely anyone

unless they use burst at start of rotation

[thorn bay]

I feel like most of the characters can I don’t see why they don’t

I see arlecchino can’t unless they c2

[hazy lotus]

how many of those na/ca/plunge dps don’t care about having ult consistently

[thorn bay]

I see characters that who need burst a lot can’t

[neon wave]

can != should

It's ass on most (all?) Natlan chars

[thorn bay]

I don’t know sorry

[quaint fern]

@bright cape bro I literally just logged in 🤣

[bright cape]

i know i saw u

i am trying to complete the battlepass as quickly as possible this time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304540031980933201/1389286008561864906/fufufatwae.gif

[lyric cargo]

close to soft pity on standard banner, or why?

[bright cape]

that's the most i can do as f2p now

lost citlali 50/50

had spent some primos mindlessly on skirk and weapon banner

now citlali seems impossible

who knows i might get some starglitter from standard pulls

n then get citlali

[lyric cargo]

is your world grinded out except for the new region?

if not grinded out, maybe 3 wishes a day from exploration grinding is realistic. If you have the time

[neon wave]

pretty sure they're a completionist

[bright cape]

i am all done

yo. btw today's my 800th day

i might be able to push that number to around 55 with the remaining events

||shouldn't have trusted the leaks saying citlali might be 2nd half||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1316496681012822157/kokomi-low-energy-ezgif.com-resize.gif

[sly moss]

Haven't played this account in forever and I have a guaranteed 5 star with my next 10pull , who in your opinion will help my account out of either the current banner or saving the guarantee for a upcoming character? Thanks in advance!

[rugged sparrow]

Escoffier will be a good boost for your Ayaka team (replacing Kokomi), keep an eye out for her re-run
if you main Itto you should also keep an eye out for Chiori
Citlali (current 5-star featured) is a good pick if you decide to main pyro (mainly)/hydro carries

[sly moss]

@rugged sparrow thank you, I will look into those 3!

[rugged sparrow]

if you want to pull for a new DPS, you can't go wrong with Fontaine / Natlan DPSes

mostly Natlan DPSes since they're bringing new ceiling

[sly moss]

Okay, I will keep that in mind when I choose, thank you again

[safe wedge]

I don't have any 4 star swords and not even 3 star sacrificial sword so what can I give my xingqiu

[rugged sparrow]

Sac isn't 3-star
but just craft Fontaine pipe sword

what swords do you have, just in case

[forest venture]

lunar overload
can crit and doesn't knockback with bloom aoe

[crude dirge]

lunar shatter

[safe wedge]

I'm only at inazuma

[safe wedge]

Only prototype rancour but I can get other sword billet weapons if any are good

But how does using fischl instead of xq in the national team sound

[rugged sparrow]

national literally relies on Xq hydro app to make Xiangling vapes all her pyronado hits

[safe wedge]

Guess I must do something about a sword then

What do you recommend

[rugged sparrow]

well just go fishing in Fontaine and craft pipe sword

or use Skyrider's Sword in the meantime

Inazuma craftable (Amenoma) is decent but if you're gonna replace it anyway the resource is kinda wasted

[safe wedge]

I'm currently also farming for the catch so I don't wanna lose my sanity here too

But thanks for the suggestions, I'll prob go with skyriders sword

[rugged sparrow]

pray u get Fav ig

[half anchor]

is ineffa worth getting

[crude dirge]

for now nah

[lyric cargo]

partly depends on things we don't know yet, I think

her best set right now is 4pc gilded or 2pc 2pc (it's not very good)
but she could get a new artifact set next region

also, I think she's an off-fielder without a carry that necessarily wants her right now? That can change
what good teams want her? Neuvilette team sidegrade? Arlecchino overvape?

if you want a more in-depth look at her current state:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CcOiG-rbEpY

[viral mulch]

hamgurber

[dense birch]

Reply/DM me to earn 142.4k Mora in ~90 minutes

Elite Mora runs are a super sweaty Genshin coop activity where you basically kill elite enemies that drop 200/400/600 Mora, following along a set route with 3 other people. You do this for all 4 worlds and by the end (of this route) you gain 142.4k Mora and ~60k artifact EXP

• Route: -6 fork for 4 worlds of LLs
• World Level 8️⃣/9️⃣ - Starting UID: 745937730
• Time: <t:1754316000:t>
• 4/4, full~

[hollow folio]

anyone got the calcs on how much stronger mualani is with c2 compared to c1?

[zinc needle]

help i got citlali for mavui premium what artifacts for her since xilo already uses cinder

[opal surge]

Scroll

If you want to swap one off you should swap Xilo

To ins/petra

[zinc needle]

who will be better for scroll?

should i use archaic on xilo

and scroll for citla

[viral mulch]

do u get beat up and expelled in super sweaty mora run if u take 0.2s too long to tp to next spot

[opal surge]

That's what I said yeah

[viral mulch]

cus its super sweaty

[zinc needle]

what do u think is better😓

[opal surge]

They're the same

[zinc needle]

petra?

or should i go for ins

[opal surge]

Ins is a 4* set that you may not have and Petra makes you pick up a shard which you may not want to do

They're basically the same in terms of power

[viral mulch]

at least ins can be obtained without resin nor strongbox if u run super sweaty elite runs

[opal surge]

True

[viral mulch]

or just explore new area like a normal person

[opal surge]

Ins salesmen are free advertisement for our resident mora runners

[viral mulch]

ok i shouldnt bash mora runners too much i would have also done it if i had time

[rugged sparrow]

with a mace ye

they'll concave ur head in

[viral mulch]

damn they do the 1.21 minecraft wind charge mace combo already

[zinc needle]

ure right

who has time to pick up a shard

[viral mulch]

i prefer the just hope xilo e dash to magically line up with the shard and if it doesnt just give up way

or even better just using ins

[zinc needle]

does it need to be xilo who picks it up

[zinc needle]

yo for citla is ttds good or sacri

[haughty lotus]

ttds

[zinc needle]

what abt for arti all em mainstat? is er gonna be an issue or nah

[opal surge]

ER is an issue

~150-160 er

[viral mulch]

er em em

[zinc needle]

am i able to achieve that without er mainstat😭

[zinc needle]

alr ty ty

[viral mulch]

em doesnt even do much so

[opal surge]

How am I supposed to know that 🥀

[viral mulch]

just use er sands

[opal surge]

It's certainly very possible to get it without er mainstat

Whether or not you can is not something I can answer

[zinc needle]

my bad💔

[zinc needle]

i heard more em the better😭

[viral mulch]

technically yes but at c0 the gains you get from em is insignificant and youre better off ermaxxing

[zinc needle]

should i go for c1...

or save for new chars

[viral mulch]

probably just save for nod krai

[valid anchor]

I would suggest you to save. Next Major version is incoming, so, you may need some additional fnds to get new characters.

[lyric cargo]

take it from me who regularly runs co-op elites, it still takes forever to get ins pieces 😅

0.02 four-star artifacts per elite

90% of them have 2 starting stats (I discard those, 4★ pieces have so few stats that I feel you gotta high roll)

400 elites per day
so 400 * 0.02 * 0.1 = 0.8 usable ins pieces per day?
it feels like less, tbh

[thorn bay]

Incredibly dumb useless but fun question that I will not try but can you clear the abyss with 4 star artifact sets
(Only 4/3 star artifacts making 5/4 won’t be available)

Just for fun

[opal surge]

yeah

[thorn bay]

These are the best ones I found although I don’t think defenders will 4pc set effect is good rather incredibly bad

As well as brave heart

[open lotus]

Guys, innefa's weapon works for Flins?

[valid anchor]

we don't know. We can't say much about next version stuff (yet).

[thorn bay]

Is he polearm?

[valid anchor]

we don't know. see #📑rules

[nova swift]

NO LEAKS

[thorn bay]

I’m not trying to wdym

I thought it was like stated on drip marketing that I missed or sth

[nova swift]

Weapons have never been stated on drip marketing

[valid anchor]

Drip marketing usually mentions element, constellation and affiliation only. Not extra information, so far I know.

[thorn bay]

Oh

[valid anchor]

the rest falls under rule 5 of this server.

[thorn bay]

I don’t know leaks

Only leak I know is || Google pixel 10 pro||

[valid anchor]

Japan goes even further on the rule. They don't mention explicitly that information, but they place it on the attached image and hoyolab post.
ex. https://x.com/Genshin_7/status/1951946154234540541

原神（Genshin）公式 (@Genshin_7)

【キャラクター紹介】
ドンドンワンダフルマシーン——アイノ
カチャカチャ・クルムカケ工房の大黒柱
面白い機械をたくさん生み出すこと、ついでにイネファが作る世界一美味しいクルムカケを食べること——これがアイノの人生哲学である。

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[zinc needle]

should i change her weap since i replaced furi for citla and the passive will be useless

[valid anchor]

probably. Are there any other options? even the 4-star Natlan craftable.

[crude dirge]

who should i use for dps faruzan?
i dont have furina

[zinc needle]

this one right

[crude dirge]

im thinking of ttds ifa with scroll

[valid anchor]

Pyro-related reaction. So, even with a burn, it will trigger the passive. Even off-field.

[zinc needle]

so what

thats better? or

[haughty lotus]

craft tidal shadow

[valid anchor]

tidal shadow will give you extra attack bonus. Earth-shaker is more for elemental skill damage.

[crude dirge]

literally the only way to get anemo bonus is ifa scroll or furina?

[haughty lotus]

chasca scroll

[crude dirge]

thats even worse

since no ttds

[near prism]

faruzan

[crude dirge]

didnt think i would add faruzan to dps faruzan team ngl

maybe

[near prism]

you talked about anemo bonus, faruzan gives herself anemo bonus

but yes ttds scroll ifa is a good support

[lyric cargo]

what does it say?

[strange scarab]

Aino

[marble fern]

capybara king boss!!
u will get achievement after defeat him

[valid anchor]

If you survives, yup.

[lyric cargo]

(they said something about the rule mentioned in the image?)

[opal surge]

It gives skill damage and mavuikas skill does no damage I fear

[strange scarab]

[haughty lotus]

you have something you want to say to me? huh?

[haughty lotus]

I'd never kill you cro

[crimson heath]

what stats should the dendro traveller have? How much EM? How much crit?

[lyric cargo]

just focus on ER, it's not likely they'll contribute much damage

[crimson heath]

I have 200% ER on hit and 40/140 crit and 141 EM

I'm wondering if the EM should be higher or the crit

or keep it the same crit but try to have the EM higher? but how much higher?

[valid anchor]

hmm... probably around 200 EM? who knows.

[crimson heath]

ok so maybe switch to crit rate criclet with EM or something idk

just gotta farm more for him which is fine because I need to farm more gilded dreams for alhaitham

[valid anchor]

MC usually doesn't crit, so he does more as a support role.

[crimson heath]

mine often crits oddly

almost every e skill and during his burst I think

10k and sometimes 20k. 30k I can't remember

[zinc needle]

is it necessary to lvl up citlalis burst?

[crimson heath]

yes if you use her burst. At least until 6

or 7

[rugged sparrow]

necessary no

just level up as you see fit, it barely amounts to anything

[zinc needle]

alr ty

[opaque niche]

Who should I use for my Varesa team? Also, is my current one decent? Ignoring levels. I build sporadically

[opal surge]

Varesa Chev mav iansan>bennett> ororon i guess

[valid anchor]

No Iansan? Mauvika, Chevreuse, another Pyro/Electro. Ororon is the safest choice. Try to test it with Fischl.

[opaque niche]

Yep. Been trying to get that stupid char ever since she came out😭

[valid anchor]

oh, you have Chlorinde. She can do a good damage too.
Varesa/Mauvika/Chevreuse/Chlorinde.

[opal surge]

[valid anchor]

so odd. Most people has her at least in C0. (I have her in C3)

[opaque niche]

Fr! I keep getting xingqiu:/

[crystal plover]

help does diluc need 200 crit dmg?

[thorn bay]

Just a good crit ratio

[sick quarry]

who u calling stupid

[sick quarry]

is clorinde there just to have 2 electro chars?

[thorn bay]

Double dps??????????????????????????????????????

[sick quarry]

thats what im saying

[valid anchor]

Resonance yes. Any other electro does the job.

[sick quarry]

[valid anchor]

Still, with 6.0 incoming, more changes may happen.

[sick quarry]

hopefully my luck changes too

[valid anchor]

That, too.

[sick quarry]

73 pity and no citlali

after i lost to tighnari on 53 pity is just sad

[opaque niche]

WAIT PLEASE IM SORRY

[sick quarry]

nah ur done sleep with one eye opened from now on

[crystal plover]

50/160 is good? i have wolves gravestone

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[crystal plover]

thanks man

[chilly bone]

not sure if this for the proper place to ask this but, has anyone maxed out their statues? cause mine is at 249 and when I use an oculus it says theres nothing left and thinking that this is the last area of natlan shouldnt all oculuses bee here now?

[elder bluff]

you forget the area inside the mountain

[chilly bone]

oh shit yeah

its like an alt space so I guess thats it

thanks!

[haughty lotus]

You want a 1:2 crit ratio, so around 70:140, 80:160, 90:180, 100:200+

[crystal plover]

thanks i can stop farming trash artifacts soon

[lyric cargo]

that's soft pity, you only had ~35% chance to get her so far?

the chance will go up rapidly now

[thorn bay]

75

I always get a 5 star at 75

[lyric cargo]

char banner 5★ chance:
wish
1 - 73: 0.6%
74: 6.6%
75: 12.6%
76: 18.6%
...

weapon banner:
wish
1 - 62: 0.7%
63: 7.7%
64: 14.7%
65: 21.7%
...

starting from 73 pity + guarantee (so the 12 means 73+12 = 85 here
cumulative chance:
(https://hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc)

looks like <= 77 is where half the soft pities land

[crude dirge]

whos eu and can help me with coop achievements

[balmy linden]

Hi anyone who have a strong skirk in Asia server to help me in imaginarium theater? Can I get your UID? None of my friends have skirk and only 6 are still playing lol.

[safe wedge]

Is it worth spending time in the teapot (I haven't went in again after the quest)

[crude dirge]

when

[crude dirge]

definetely
gives materials, resin, frienship exp

[sage sail]

since i got citlali, i want to use yelan on field more so how should i set up my rotations with yelan, furina, citlali, esco?

[crude dirge]

furina eq citlali eq esco e q yelan q e and combo

idk how to make citlali give scroll otherwise

[sage sail]

yeah i thought so. just wanted to check

i was testing it and that seemed the most logical

does yelan outperform neuvillette in this team comp?

pretty sure she was slightly better in single target even b4 esco so she should be even better now, right?

i'd probably need her sig tho since i have sac jade on neuvi

[opal surge]

No

[opal surge]

She was not better before and she is not better now

[sage sail]

i saw a showcase showing yelan and neuvi at very similar levels of investment and yelan slightly outperformed neuvi. that's probably due to slight optimizations but they should've at least been very similar

[rugged sparrow]

can u link the vid

[sage sail]

that was using a hypercarry setup

i watched it like a year ago so idk where i saw it

[rugged sparrow]

looking at mv alone Yelan already loses by a big margin

[sage sail]

yeah im not seeing any comparisons between them for freeze so ig it must be true. neuvi is just better

welp idc either way since i prefer yelan's playstyle

i'll only use neuvillette for comfort or if i can't clear with yelan

[opal surge]

I could make a showcase where yoimiya outperforms mavuika and 60% of the player base wouldn't be able to see the scam in it

Never believe showcases

[rugged sparrow]

if they show Klee being the best pyro DPS I'd believe them

🗣️ 🔥

[opal surge]

trueing

[feral reef]

Cuz its true

Name 3 reasons why she isnt

[haughty lotus]

Burst doesn’t work off field therefore literally unplayable
Short
Not xiangling

[livid grove]

Hello! Can I have some tips on how should I improve my build of Raiden or if this is enough

[forest venture]

your atk stat and goblet needs work

you lack a lot of atk buffs and oversaturate so much dmg% bonus when it comes to your team and your stats alone

an atk goblet can really help

or if you run bennet or iansan it should be fine

[livid grove]

Thank you!!

[haughty lotus]

What’s your team

[crude dirge]

can i use shim on razor with xianyun?

[lyric cargo]

NA talent is pointless on her, as burst overrides it
(I assume you're going for triple crown just cause, but some part of me hurts seeing it ^^)

[lyric cargo]

idk if atk stat is necessarily more important than crit here
I'd just say look for as many useful rolls as possible

[lyric cargo]

ER is a bit higher than should be necessary for the teams I'm familiar with

[full sonnet]

Which razor would be better razor with chongyun or Bennets fire buff

[crude dirge]

what are the teams

[full sonnet]

Hmm razor raiden chongyun diona
Razor thoma kazuha Bennett

@crude dirge

[crude dirge]

whats the point of raiden if its cryo

and thoma is basically useless in 2nd team

[full sonnet]

Extra basic attack damage and energy regen

[crude dirge]

just use phys at this point

[full sonnet]

Would jean be good because attack speed?

She also heals and swirls

Razor chongyun yun jin jean🤔

Google says replace chongyun with rosaria

[strange scarab]

Hey google how do i perform leg surgery at home

[slow seal]

what is like the absolute best best best aggravate/hyperbloom team for keqing?? i have fischl nahida and furina with her right now

[strange scarab]

[livid grove]

Don't mind it, I made that mistake years ago when I haven't know how to do things in game yet T~T

[valid anchor]

hmm... Keqing is sorta a carry, isn't it? Enablers and keeping Keging's electro infux constant. Nahida is best for the task for aggravate, but you need someone who can apply hydro for those blooms quick.

[lyric cargo]

best as in highest damage, regardless of other factors?

you can choose between that and having defensive utility (healer / shielder)

if you do want a defensive option, the best place for it is the dendro slot

(disclaimer: traditional dendro teams have kinda been neglected for a while now. I wouldn't expect a keqing aggravate team to be able to clear most bosses in Stygian Onslaught [fearless].)

[slim cradle]

want to ask whats the like best teams in the stygian onslaught if you had like all the characters

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca on Papilla, Mua on turtle, and Neuv+Ineffa on Cactus I'd reckon

[bright cape]

what is a good replacement if i don't have Mua

[rugged sparrow]

Mavuika

[elder bluff]

skirk

[lyric cargo]

I sure hope Ga Ming can handle turtle

if it's not Ga Ming, I'd have to try c2 r1 Mav. but she's my only Natlan char and we have papilla..

[rugged sparrow]

I just bruteforced with vertical invest and it's only on Fearless

don't have the right chars for this rot

[quaint fern]

Oh right it's already out on Asia

I'm just going to blitz thru my resin tmrw morning and then mald later

Does papilla immediately do it's charge->oko attack like abyss?

[rugged sparrow]

uhhh how to put it

[quaint fern]

It's a simple yes or no question

[rugged sparrow]

it doesn't charge but still have the shield
it attacks (by doing the transformation) while still having the shield
if shield broken it gets stunned
after stun it immediately re-shields

it's an entirely diff mechanic than OW/abyss Papilla

[quaint fern]

Oh what the helly

I see

Ganyu melt angle

[rugged sparrow]

idk if u wanna Ganyu melt that shit

thing has double shield HP than OW/abyss

[elder bluff]

its shield needs 2x more elemental attacks than the abyss one

good luck with ganyu

[quaint fern]

Oh.....

Idk man, it seems like I'm cooked regardless of what I do

Hyperbloom papilla, Skirk the turtle, then what for cactus

[elder bluff]

EC and LC

[lyric cargo]

any Natlan dps for papilla?

[quaint fern]

I don't want to pull ineffa 😭

[quaint fern]

yeah about that

[rugged sparrow]

cactus is like the least of your worry as long as you have strong hydro/electro carry lol

[quaint fern]

Yeah about that

[rugged sparrow]

Papilla is biggest hurdle

imo

[elder bluff]

wrong
the turtle is the biggest thing

[lyric cargo]

oh, I forget it's an event rather than recurring content like abyss / theater
so not 4am server time reset but rather.. 11am?

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

Okay what did they change about turtle

Man I was going to go on a morning run or smth tmrw

[rugged sparrow]

lower hitcount before shield

[elder bluff]

because it doesn't lose HP when the shield break

[quaint fern]

I guess I'll slave away at genshin

[rugged sparrow]

that's about it I think

[quaint fern]

So it still has the stupid spin and homing lightning

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[quaint fern]

Brilliant

[rugged sparrow]

but it doesn't hurt that much ig compared to overworld

I just facetanked everything with Bennett

[quaint fern]

Oh so you can face tank this time?

[rugged sparrow]

that's what I did yes

Dire will probably one shot me though so

not even gonna bother

[quaint fern]

I remember last time we had the stupid turtle in some kind of boss event it did more DPS than Bennett could heal

[lyric cargo]

I still remember what a pain the turtle was in the event, was only able to do it by eating food

but that was the local legend version I think

[quaint fern]

Funnily enough,I think I also used ayaka sunfire for that event

So this past SO wasn't the first time I've used it to clear smth LOL

[lyric cargo]

can anyone confirm whether resin spent last stygian onslaught
without reaching the 120 (extra artifact)
carries over?

or is the counter at 0/120 regardless

[rugged sparrow]

have no idea, I was sitting at exactly 0/120 last time

[lyric cargo]

same

[zinc needle]

is it even possible to make the bar thingy full?? like i have 3 natlan chars already am i doing smth wrong

[lyric cargo]

it might depend on the combo you're doing

I had trouble filling the bar with Mavuika teams in abyss, when papilla was there

[zinc needle]

i hate this event sm bro

[lyric cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQKFksHQGk

[zinc needle]

menacing difficulty is so hard

might js do the hard one

[bright cape]

oh is this new stygian onslaught?

[zinc needle]

yeahh

[bright cape]

thanks

i hope i can try this tomorrow

[lyric cargo]

anyone know why they're doing C1N1d in an overload team, against downed papilla? because it looks cooler?

I thought N1d is to reset ICD so the next CA hit can vape / melt

isn't C2d higher motion value?

^

[zinc needle]

glll

[livid grove]

How do I host the domain in my own world, it keeps making me join another world

[lyric cargo]

which domain?
it might be you need to have people join your world, so you don't need to use the match button

[lyric cargo]

also weird they use Xilonen.

Wouldn't Kazuha be better here, being able to double swirl and buff both elements, plus triggering more lunar-charged and having high EM

[viral mulch]

now that i think about it its pretty diabolical they chose the one type for papilla that has the most cryo attacks just to slow u down

[rugged sparrow]

I'm so tilted with this actually LMAO

"eh I can just facetank Papilla ig"

sees cryo aura

gotta lock the fuck in

[viral mulch]

they actual villain masterminding this

[delicate jewel]

Should I switch 1 and 2 teams

[keen willow]

How do i fight this cactus guy

[lyric cargo]

time to take Bennett to remove cryo aura and get melted instead

[lyric cargo]

this seems ideal

well, Skirk would like Furina.. hmm. I guess Neuv could do without her and run double electro maybe

[delicate jewel]

Furina is bound to neuvi for the sole purpose of hydro application

[lyric cargo]

you could try these teams. idk how optimal they are.

[delicate jewel]

No ineffa

[vapid egret]

A random new welkin popped up on my account, do I do anything about that?

[keen willow]

can i even do the cactus

[viral mulch]

why is esco there

[keen willow]

Idk i don't have anyone else to put there

[vapid egret]

Welkin moon appeared in my acc, do I do anything about it?

[safe wedge]

can someone help me do a few bosses and domains? Asia. World level 4 1808226199

[keen willow]

• just got citlali

[forest venture]

can i say the mualani flop line to those who want to play teams with awkward synergies

[vapid egret]

YIPEEEE

[forest venture]

me soon

[bleak geyser]

which one should I use for my current skirk build?

[vapid egret]

I can finally use a knockoff chasca premium team cuz I dont have any of the weapons

[crude dirge]

2nd definetely
u already get at least 15% cr from resonance

[bleak geyser]

okay, thanks for the help

i'm really indecisive with her crit ratio for a while

[lyric cargo]

wait, fearless is immediately unlocked? no need to go through lower difficulties again?

wait, I'm stupid ^^
I immediately tried fearless, but I need to use my resin

[lyric cargo]

yeah.. no shot

I'm not playing great, but making up another 50% hp would be tough

[neon wave]

oof

[crude dirge]

is gaming xianyun citlali bennet good team

not for so

[forest venture]

the cactus needing electro charged pmo

[lyric cargo]

okay, with c2 r1 Mav it's easy
even after messing up and letting it shield

if that ends up my only way to beat turtle, I might need to get Chasca for Papilla

[rugged sparrow]

is that Gaming run already without it shielding up?

[lyric cargo]

I think so

[rugged sparrow]

rough

[strange scarab]

Goodbye all they discontinued genshin on ps4

[rugged sparrow]

how much dmg per plunge

[strange scarab]

nice to meet you all

[rugged sparrow]

balls

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/cro-gif-18418231983666461454

[crude dirge]

is it better to use iansan that bennet with gaming xianyun shitlali

[pearl marsh]

Rotation for Raiden, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Citlali?😅

[forest venture]

raiden skill, benne- citlali?

[pearl marsh]

I aint got Bennet😭

[forest venture]

do you have fischl and chevruse or iansan

[pearl marsh]

I have Fischl and Iansan, but no Chevreuse🥀

[forest venture]

maybe you can do raiden, anemo, xq/fischl, and iansan

[pearl marsh]

I'm lazy and my Citlali is basically built, and Raiden, Xq, and Xl all share the same domain😅 None of them are properly built

[forest venture]

you can build iansan now to be lazy with adding your teams later as you continue playing. iansan can fit into many teams
play on your own pace

[vernal stone]

Does anybody know if there’s a way to guarantee 2 substats of choice, while using a reroll feather

[forest venture]

artifacts made from sanctifying elixir

[vernal stone]

Oh

If I reroll artifacts enough times can I get it to go into all crit

[forest venture]

if you level artifacts made out of elixir, it will guarantee 2 crit rolls
you just have to worry about the other 2-3 random rolls

[vernal stone]

Mhm alr ty

[vapid egret]

Should I be concerned that I randomly logged in and had a welkin moon

[strange scarab]

[crude dirge]

is gaming xianyun bennet citlali best team for gaming

[opal surge]

How is onslaught, I'm not home to play

[strange scarab]

Awful

though im playing fearless

[opal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-need-gif-21451408

I need to play

[strange scarab]

mainly cuz stupid papila literally invulnerable 80% of the time

[rugged sparrow]

should be fine if u have Chasca

[strange scarab]

How the fuck does this stupid cactus work

[rugged sparrow]

just EC him

[lyric cargo]

hat swap, gotta know which one to attack

the hat has high res to anything but hydro and electro

problem for me is, every time I use a burst I lose track of which hat is real

I guess you want a team that doesn't need bursts in the hat swap phase?

[strange scarab]

Eh i feel like my neuv isnt doing damage anyways

[rugged sparrow]

how

[rugged sparrow]

eh just know when it's gonna do hat phase

[lyric cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQKFksHQGk
(I'm sure there are other videos by now, that's just the only one I watched so far)

[rugged sparrow]

then hold your burst till it finishes shuffling around then just EC it to prevent it from moving

[lyric cargo]

it felt like it never fully stopped

I guess my EC had some downtime?

[rugged sparrow]

probably?

[strange scarab]

Yeah as i suspected my neuv just doesnt deal enough damage

[rugged sparrow]

🥀

[strange scarab]

can raiden work just purely for off field app

Using fischl in stygian killing me

[rugged sparrow]

I on-field Raiden

Raiden app should technically be better than Fischl's ig in Neuv teams

and has higher uptime

[lyric cargo]

my Fischl might need more ER

[rugged sparrow]

it's not just about ER too

Raiden ICD is standard
Fischl is unique and bad without her c6 afaik

and Neuv team doesn't utilize c6 Fischl well

[lyric cargo]

turns out this works for turtle (first try, 2 shield phases)

now to find a way to beat the cactus with c0 Raiden

yeah, idk about this
got the right hat every time, but this is as far as I got on the first attempt

I don't have a full understanding of its mechanics yet, though.

[rugged sparrow]

probs just not enough dmg

[lyric cargo]

is the circle below its health bar counting the time before it goes into hat mode?

and in hat mode, does it count the time you have before it ko's your on-field char?

[lyric cargo]

I saw this clear and thought I'd give Raiden a try

[rugged sparrow]

is your Raiden c3 though

[lyric cargo]

still, c3 and probably r1 and it took them 113 yeah

[lyric cargo]

nope, c0 with catch

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

my problem remains: I only have 2 recent teams

c2 r1 Mav, c1 Neuv,
and then there's Navia and a bunch of Sumeru era teams

oh, only one of the hats has a face. how did I not realize 😄

[rugged sparrow]

👒 🌵

[lyric cargo]

ladies and gentlemen, the solution 😅

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

wrong weapon, it turns out. dragon's bane and 4pc flop is the correct dps raiden build

Nahida being c2 might have helped

done:

maybe Mav overload with Chev + Oro would've been better
but this was good enough

dodged flat hp on third reshape

[crude dirge]

do u get one dust for 1.2k resin spent there or smth

[lyric cargo]

yeah, should be the reward. pretty sure it was last time

[lyric cargo]

just the first 1200 resin, though. you don't get a second for 2400 ^^

[crude dirge]

i need scroll for citlali anyway so

[whole turret]

do yall think this can clear

[lyric cargo]

all my resin goes there for the first 10 days
I also made sure to enter today with 5x condensed and 180+ resin when the event started
plus 2x transient resin from two weeks of teapot

[whole turret]

im not sure about the 3rd team

but i heard that hyperbloom kinda works?

[lyric cargo]

should be, I just cleared with that third team here
#📌gimshim-help message
my Nahida is c2, but it didn't take many attempts

[whole turret]

oh c2 nahida is kinda big though

ill just try it

[lyric cargo]

it's +20% hyperbloom damage, roughly

[whole turret]

nah imma just try this team

[lyric cargo]

help, my crit rate is going in the wrong direction as I improve my build
I wanted to get back to 100%

guess I'm overcapping, and going from 9 useful sub plume back down to 8

[whole turret]

i love how this boss has an attack that has infinite fucking poise so your character is stunlocked for 5 seconds straight so fun

[lyric cargo]

maybe Xingqiu protected me from that?

[whole turret]

oh yeah

and he has more application

[lyric cargo]

it's not infinite interrupt res, though 🤔

[whole turret]

do you think this piece is worth rerolling

its all low rolls

[lyric cargo]

is that 8 subs total, or a low-roll 9?

[whole turret]

8 total

i thought it was 9 too lol

[lyric cargo]

even with 8, it might be okay to reroll
(if you don't have an off-piece with 9 useful subs, that continuing to farm might let you use?)

[lyric cargo]

the initial rolls it had at +0 are fixed (won't be rerolled)
which seems like potentially a good thing here, you keep the max-roll on crit dmg and high-roll on EM

[strange scarab]

i give up

this stupid cactus

[whole turret]

my clorinde just sucks ig

[lyric cargo]

the real one gains a face, which makes it easy to distinguish

I think it happens when it's first hit by electro-charged? not certain on this

[whole turret]

wait i have c2 raiden

i forgot

if this cant clear istgf

[lyric cargo]

I saw someone cleared with this

[strange scarab]

Its just that none of my chars deal enough damage

[lyric cargo]

gl

[strange scarab]

n i dont have mua

[whole turret]

yeah im cooked

c3 raiden c2 yelan c1 furinha

[lyric cargo]

have you tried hyperbloom? that worked for me, after Neuv and c0 Raiden failed

[haughty lotus]

What’s what you get for hyper investing in your pyro mommies cro

[lyric cargo]

I suspect Neuv would've worked if I tried again after understanding the hat's mechanics a bit better
but by that time I had used him for 2nd side

[whole turret]

YOO

PERFECT IANSAN PIECE I CAN MAYBE CLEAR PAPILLA NOW

NOO

NOO I ALMOST CLEARED IT

I DID IT

[strange scarab]

Oh i think i found my solution

skiirk vs tutel

[whole turret]

papilla is such a fun boss

[elder bluff]

this should be enough ER for benny right?

[whole turret]

gg

[vapid egret]

all that for one custom artifact

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's good

[strange scarab]

I forgot if i wanted to farm artifact should i do hard or menacing

[lyric cargo]

hard

[whole turret]

hard

[torpid stone]

bros i need help

i just got back to genshin again and fsr my characters that were once strong are now weak who the heck do i build now

idk if i can send pics of my characters here

[crude dirge]

tighnari yae yaoyao, fischl should be good

[royal drum]

Which one should i go for

[torpid stone]

any more?

[crude dirge]

alhaitham hyperbloom

[thorn bay]

35.8 cv vs 35 cv
I feel like my brain is ded can’t do math

[crude dirge]

depends on what the build needs smh

[royal drum]

Hmmmm ic

I think ill keep the orignal and try again another time

[dense birch]

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[late locust]

can i get some recommended teams for the slauter ting?

[cinder blaze]

tenacity, deepwood or cinder city for nahida in a aggravate chlorinde team?

[calm oriole]

Anyone wanna help me with the menacing onslaught?

[valid anchor]

Usually deepwood if no one has it.

[candid swallow]

anyone looking to run through onslaught (NA)

[heavy zealot]

Onslaught is giving me some trouble any idea what i can do

Specifically the cactus is giving me trouble

[viral mulch]

boil it

[bright cape]

is lynette c6 good?

i have c6 faruzan too. does lynette c6 become good dps with her?

[neon wave]

You don't go DM in aggravate
You'd usually go Tenacity or Gilded

I guess scroll can work too

don't know what the best option would be

but not deepwood

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool? perferably the online version, with constellations

https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html

[lyric cargo]

when abyss was the most difficult content, maybe you could've made her strong enough to count as a carry
with the release of stygian onslaught, I don't think most 4-stars will work well anymore

[bright cape]

thanks.

[bright cape]

does this lineup make sense?

[lyric cargo]

if the cactus team works

I was struggling with Neuv, but I was also still learning the mechanics of that boss

ended up using Neuv Furina Citlali Escoffier for turtle

and Nahida Xq Raiden Yelan for Cactus

[azure raptor]

Quick question, does neuvi's CA proc beidou's burst?

[heavy zealot]

What is this

[lyric cargo]

it does, she's still not great with him unfortunately

[lyric cargo]

hoyoverse is the company that makes genshin
that's their official site for viewing your char list

here is mine for example

[heavy zealot]

All of my characters that are 5*s that i use are c1 i dont wanna switch hoyolab accts

[crude dirge]

is song of days past better than vv for xianyun

[kind raptor]

who to use for papilla?
mualani - nahida - xiangling - zhongli used for turtle
neuvillette - furina - ineffa - fischl used for cactus

[bright cape]

thank you. btw can we permafreeze the turtle?

like make him never get the shield?

[kind raptor]

w/ escoffier i think yes

idk cuz ion hav her

[lyric cargo]

Chasca, Kinich, Mavuika would be the defaults I believe

so Mavuika in this case

[heavy zealot]

I dont think that is have a good electro support for the cactus

[kind raptor]

can i use arlecchino instead?

[lyric cargo]

I haven't seen that done

I assume it gets unfrozen briefly and keeps continuing its shield animation a little bit each time

[half anchor]

bro why the fuck did they make lunar charged required for stygian onslaught

[heavy zealot]

Can I hyper bloom the cactus?

[lyric cargo]

nightsoul chars will have an advantage

you can try it if course. Arle + burning maybe

[kind raptor]

arlecchino - yelan - nahida - bennett

[rugged sparrow]

they... didn't?

[kind raptor]

and ill use mavuika on mualani

[lyric cargo]

I cleared it with hb, yeah

c2 Nahida, Xq, Raiden, Yelan

[heavy zealot]

Could I get away without a second hydro

[lyric cargo]

electro-charged can work, if you have a good team that has enough of it

[lyric cargo]

so quickbloom? I'm not sure

[heavy zealot]

Maybe Alhaitham, Xq , Nahida and Fischl?

[rugged sparrow]

one way to find out

[heavy zealot]

I tried using Ayato and he wasn't doing enough dmg

[vernal belfry]

Is Citlali/ineffa a good support for dps sigewinne

[crude dirge]

citlali good for freeze with esco

ineffa basically does nothing for sigewinne

[vernal belfry]

Kk

[heavy zealot]

Can the other old dragon hyperbloom

[lyric cargo]

I don't think dps Sigewinne is a thing

[rugged sparrow]

just c6

[crude dirge]

do i use em sands on gaming if i use wolfs grave + ttds + bennet

[crude dirge]

we got event hp bow that deals phys hit based on hp

MAYBE thats how u make her dps

[rugged sparrow]

no

to make Sige a good DPS you c6 her

[heavy zealot]

Ok.... what artifacts are good on Neuvillette and before you ask no i dont have Furina

[rugged sparrow]

4p Marechaussee

[crude dirge]

how is furina related to artifacts

[crude dirge]

shim🔥

neuv xianyun plunge with shim

[heavy zealot]

People claim he is useless without her i wanted to get it out of the way before someone asked

[crude dirge]

furina is cracked for anyone

[heavy zealot]

Anyways is he actually useless without her

[crude dirge]

just use some shit like mona sucrose and some shielder team

[rugged sparrow]

no

[heavy zealot]

I found a decent sounding team of him Kazuha , Zhongli and Fischl so I will try that out

[crude dirge]

why is there fischl

[heavy zealot]

What weapon do I use on him

[heavy zealot]

Uhhh electricity

[haughty lotus]

There’s a build guide in the pins that ranks his weapon options

[kind raptor]

can anyone help me with that bastard papilla?

[unkempt river]

SO teams?

[kind raptor]

1. mavuika - citlali - xilonen - bennett
2. skirk - escoffier - furina - yelan
3. neuvillette - fischl - kuki - nahida

[lyric cargo]

Mavuika + Bennett + Chevreuse + Ororon

Mavuika + Bennett + Iansan + [cryo or hydro]

Mavuika + Bennett + 2 cryo

[kind raptor]

who is the second cryo?

[lyric cargo]

ideally Escoffier + Citlali, but you don't have them

I can't say how good Ganyu off-field cryo is

then there are Diona and Rosaria

[kind raptor]

i dont have a natlan cryo for mavuika's q

[unkempt river]

Btw, isn't Skirk too high freq dmg for the turtle? Or do I du burst dmg and then what

[kind raptor]

u should permafreeze it

[unkempt river]

oh dope

[unkempt river]

How do I break the papilla asap

[kind raptor]

idk im struggling there as well

[unkempt river]

yeah no, it still moves

[lyric cargo]

the bar fills up almost instantly, but keeping the turtle frozen delays the shield phase
it does shield up eventually

[unkempt river]

yeah, the sheild is so annoying

[opal surge]

cant you heal through it

[worthy iris]

What artifacts should I use on rosaria

[neon wave]

should be fine, you break its shield pretty fast with cryo anyw

[bright cape]

can anyone suggest me teams for onslaught?

[opal surge]

first clears on fearless with unoptimized times but I fear clorinde is not clearing dire 🥀

[bright cape]

now u r tempting me to get mualani

[opal surge]

mav OL
skirk
neuv prolly

[opal surge]

mualani did nothing dont worry about it

I missed every single scroll

[bright cape]

i thought she was dps there. doesn't turtle like small nuke hits?

[opal surge]

nah its just a skirk team

Just needed to free yelan for clorinde

[bright cape]

thanks. i will try to beat turtle first.

that feels the most impossible to me rn

[bright cape]

should i farm skirk's set for her?

i think neuvi will need furina

[opal surge]

no

well i guess you can its just not very efficient imo

[bright cape]

if i got her set, may be i can go skirk, xingqiu, layla, charlotte

i don't like the furina being tied to her and neuvi both

[bright cape]

does this makes sense?
i was thinking of something similar

i will have to invest on supports too.

most r lvl 70 with lvl 1 talents

[kind raptor]

should i crown yansan q?

[opal surge]

Fischl

I think cactus will be by far the hardest for you

[valid anchor]

hmm... up to you.

[nova swift]

Yes

[sick quarry]

u have raiden

[bright cape]

yep i got it last year

[sick quarry]

[feral reef]

i cant do cactus its too hard for my little brain

[feral reef]

i dont have citlali or yelan
can i replace with owowon and xq

[kind raptor]

can anyone tell me why i cant clear the papilla on lvl 5?

[spark mantle]

this is bull

i dont have 3 parties

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[bright cape]

when will u clear fearless?

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Idk if I even can

[bright cape]

same

[quaint fern]

I'm eating rn so I'll try later

It might be possible if I pull someone but idk

[bright cape]

what do u plan to use on 1st boss?

[quaint fern]

Hyperbloom?

I'm just not too sure what will happen if I use up ororon there

[bright cape]

the boss looks too mobile for hyperbloom.

[quaint fern]

I only logged in to burn resin so idk

[bright cape]

good luck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1307177861894897817/1083056043526979714.gif

[quaint fern]

I used like 180 + 5 condensed + 3 fragile

[kind raptor]

that papilla is on steroids

[violet cipher]

What teams do you guys suggest here?

[lyric cargo]

could be fine. are you struggling to clear papilla with that?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874914804349939766/1402756442414514337/image.png?ex=6895123d&is=6893c0bd&hm=74d5d9507246f6ed8f4474524a3c965468ae63d5dc63cbeff8fb5c3ff0f5d86d&

I used this

[violet cipher]

I was an inch away from clearing Papilla, cactus was the hardest

What set do I use for Chasca in that team? Sometimes I heard VV and sometimes codex. Then what's the rotation?

[lyric cargo]

ignore the Mav team, overload is likely better. I had Ororon on 3rd boss at first, forgot to change the team after he became freed up

[violet cipher]

I didn't think dendro would work.

[lyric cargo]

codex is likely better, I imagine your VV pieces won't have the stats she wants anyways?

[violet cipher]

probably not

[lyric cargo]

it did for me, though my Nahida is c2 (you can see cons if you zoom in)

[violet cipher]

My Raiden is C1, should I use that or a quickbloom Clorinde?

[lyric cargo]

Mav skill
Bennett skill, burst
Citlali skill, burst
Mavuika burst
Chasca

[sage sail]

ah crap. stygian onslaught is back

time for suffering

[quaint fern]

it's cooked

I dont even think I can clear meanacing

[sage sail]

i'll need to check it out

[lyric cargo]

not a wide enough char pool? no Natlan dps?

[sage sail]

what are the fearless mechanics?

[quaint fern]

both?

I tried hyperbloom papilla already, this tighnari team doesn't have enough application for it either

yeah I can probably move furina outside of my skirk team, but I dont think that gives me enough teams

[lyric cargo]

Mavuika is my only one, but at least I had her
Papilla without Natlan dps is rough I think, as it takes extra damage based on nightsoul damage taken when the shield is broken

[quaint fern]

I cant even break the shield right now. period

I cant even try schenanigans bc no energy from the get go

[violet cipher]

Ok weird, I tried that and it didn't work. Maybe it's a timing thing

[lyric cargo]

burning + Ganyu maybe? 🤔

hyperbloom worked surprisingly well for me, on cactus

[quaint fern]

with no energy to start with?

[crude dirge]

what should i change
those em sands are best that i have 😭

and i dont have cd circlet on cw

[quaint fern]

I dont think intergrassional will work but it's worth a shot

[lyric cargo]

problem for the hyperbloom team, or for Ganyu melt?

for HB, what I did was:
Xq skill, (sac) skill
dash forward, as it will jump back
Yelan skill

that charged my hydro chars' bursts

[quaint fern]

surely this is enough to get it with one burst

[quaint fern]

ganyu melt

[lyric cargo]

ah, I guess you need energy on Xiangling? and fav weapons don't work against the papilla shield

[quaint fern]

oh fair point, let me swap xq to fav

[lyric cargo]

and someone like pyro traveler who won't need energy will not have the pyro app I assume

[quaint fern]

sac*

oh I actually haven't tried pmc, I dont think I have his talents leveled tho wwww or even know how pmc kit works LOL

[lyric cargo]

youtube suggested an early guide video to me, so I'm watching that right now:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCjpgncGVMw

[quaint fern]

I suppose I need to craft a kitain cross spear for xl?

I should already have one leveled tbh

wait does sac even trigger?
I just had to reset for the 2nd time

or are you using it immediately

[lyric cargo]

nightsoul damage removes triple the points from papilla, is the main thing

there's tap skill and hold skill, best to read what they do (tap is passive timed hits, hold is coordinated attacks I believe)

[lyric cargo]

might be a good idea, for whenever fav doesn't work yeah

my pyro traveler is on 4pc tenacity with full EM build and Xiphos

scroll is also possible, if you can trigger a reaction with the element you're using for damage

[crude dirge]

can u help me do menacing

[quaint fern]

I just dont think my account can do it

[bright cape]

looks like cactus is the only thing i can clear this time.

[quaint fern]

unless I'm doing smth very wrong, I cant even break the menancing shield with this

let me go resonate with pyro and figure out what the hell pmc does

wait what if I ditch nahida for citlali

[bright cape]

i dunno how u can get burst back on those characters

they are all energy blackhole

[quaint fern]

right at the start you can still trigger fav and sac

[bright cape]

oh didn't know that.

[quaint fern]

I still haven't even gotten past the initial skill break so idk if it's sustainable

[crude dirge]

wanna do on coop
i have esco and citlali

[bright cape]

after shield is up, fav n sac both won't trigger

[quaint fern]

right before it starts it's shield, at least on menacing that's te behavior

[bright cape]

fearless is not coopable

[quaint fern]

i haven't even touched fearless

[crude dirge]

oh fearless

[quaint fern]

well you can just no rewards

I think

[bright cape]

oh i see

[crude dirge]

can u help me do menacing then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924770593503596616/1294028804305588254/eLJXoOEQ.gif

[bright cape]

i am on na

there are many decent eu peeps here. u will be fine

[quaint fern]

you can probably just random queue menacing

[bright cape]

i might be building my c0 iansan

[quaint fern]

c0 is an energy blackhole

[bright cape]

damn

[lyric cargo]

maybe later, if you still need diff 4 cleared art that time

[quaint fern]

I hate it

[crude dirge]

cant even do menacing

[lyric cargo]

I typo'd, meant menacing

[quaint fern]

I think I can eventually clear meancing, I just need to find the right teams

or just pull chasca 2nd half LUL

see that's the propaganda

waste your primos right before nod krai

[lyric cargo]

that was my concern, having to do that if I need Mavuika for turtle

[quaint fern]

I would honestly rather pull ineffa but papilla is the hardest chamber for me rn

[bright cape]

nod cryo may be

[quaint fern]

I really dont like chasca design

[bright cape]

i feel the turtle the toughest

what is ur plan for that?

[quaint fern]

oh I just skirk that one :D

[bright cape]

oh right

[quaint fern]

I can probably clear that one rn if I wanted

[bright cape]

u got her best supports too

[quaint fern]

cryo nation

unfortunately that means literally every other element is neglected LUL

[lyric cargo]

plus, I bet they'll keep making bosses that try to get you to pull the new chars

so if you're having up pull one every Stygian, you'll eventually run out and be unable to clear. might as well pull the chars that are best in the long-term

[bright cape]

btw guys. i am really feeling the heat of not having characters ever since stygian onslaught.

[quaint fern]

TRUE

[bright cape]

should i just pull on characters now?

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char list?

[bright cape]

weapon wasted so many of my pulls

[bright cape]

@lyric cargo here's my roster

i had to pull skirk to clear last stygian.

looks like i have to pull mualani this time

[lyric cargo]

Mav for papilla
Skirk for turtle
hyperbloom or Neuv for Cactus

not having Escoffier with Skirk might make it a little rough

wait, you don't have Yelan. Idk about hyperbloom for cactus then

[bright cape]

yah. options are very limited

[lyric cargo]

you might not have enough hydro units to run both freeze and a neuv / hb team

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1027200386962051074.webp?size=48&animated=true

i have cleared cactus

but ended up using furina there

[lyric cargo]

there's Candace, I guess. maybe after the 10 days of artifact farming have ended and you can level chars again

[bright cape]

i am thinking of buiding iansan too

i think i can do ur 1st team

although i don't have sig

[quaint fern]

I'm trying this rn 😭

[lyric cargo]

from this?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874914804349939766/1402756442414514337/image.png?ex=6895123d&is=6893c0bd&hm=74d5d9507246f6ed8f4474524a3c965468ae63d5dc63cbeff8fb5c3ff0f5d86d&

[bright cape]

yep

i only need to build iansan

[lyric cargo]

my Mav team here is probably far from optimal, if you have Chevreuse and Ororon

[bright cape]

i have chev c6 and ororon

but the boss moves too much

[lyric cargo]

Mav Ben Chev Oro should be good

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dDuuBaLfPYU

[bright cape]

jamie is very sweaty

also his builds are out of this world

[quaint fern]

no shot I can do fearless

my xl is not good enough LOL

I will have to build ororon but idk who to put last

kazuha????

[haughty lotus]

Man vruck that boss

[hazy lotus]

Yeah papilla sucks [REDACTED] and balls

[quaint fern]

he sucks diluc and kaeya got it

bro why did they put another stall boss into SO 💀

man fruck this cactus

kok is literally my best hydro on fielder 💀

[placid sky]

This feels a bit too low dps ngl

[bright cape]

what team did it?

[placid sky]

Could maybe put raiden in for DPS

[quaint fern]

gee great raiden I have here

[bright cape]

oh i thought it was fearless

i am trying to clear that somehow

[placid sky]

Welp this is hard

[quaint fern]

I WISH LMAOOOO

[bright cape]

how good is dahlia's hydro app?

@lyric cargo

[quaint fern]

I dont even think I have him leveled

will if I have to but...

[bright cape]

i was thinking if his hydro app is slow n sufficient i might use him

furina aggros the turtle very quickly

[placid sky]

If you're on Asia I could co-op and help you

[quaint fern]

yeah I might just move furina to cactus

not

[haughty lotus]

Like 2 hits a rotation

[placid sky]

Sadge

[bright cape]

that might not be sufficient then.

may be time to finally use kok

[cedar flint]

since he only does it with skill and burst he has no off field hydro

[placid sky]

You could try kok against the turtle and throw Furina at the cactus guy

[crude dirge]

when

[bright cape]

that's my plan

[opal surge]

You're meant to freeze the turtle and only get his shield once

Hit count doesn't matter that much for skirk on turtle as long as you can consistently have hydro cryo app

[quaint fern]

okay I'm settling with d4

furina hard carried cactus

[lyric cargo]

I haven't looked into it

[quaint fern]

how much energy do I need to build for fav ayaka to be able to burst after two citlali skills

if I can move xingqiu to cactus....

no, never let me cook again

you cant even trigger fav

skyward ayaka???

[opal surge]

Dahlia doesn't have hydro app

[opal surge]

Do you have ororon

[quaint fern]

yeah why, just not built but I can

I just need to level and level burst a bit more

that's probably my plan for after the bonus artifacts ends

[opal surge]

Just feels like there must be something better than citlali national to play here

[quaint fern]

probably?

[opal surge]

If you wanted to try fearless I mean

[quaint fern]

I tried hyperbloom, burning, and tighnari agg but no dice

[opal surge]

Ororon hypabloom maybe

[quaint fern]

perchance

I have to on field nahida tho

I even tried intergrassional but I couldn't break the shield in time

[opal surge]

Oh wait is diff 4 papilla the regular shield?

Where it explodes in 15s?

[quaint fern]

wait is d5 diff?
yeah

what the hell

[opal surge]

Yeah diff 5 is a much bigger shield but it doesn't explode

Some of the damage from shield break carries over

And it's active while it has the shield

No time limit on breaking though

[quaint fern]

so does fav work?

[opal surge]

No

Neither does sac for citlali 🥀

[quaint fern]

ofc we cant have nice things 😭

[quaint fern]

oh that's what I used LOL