#📌gimshim-help

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viral mulch
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no but it looks cooler

rugged sparrow
winged arch
viral mulch
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should i send the vid

rugged sparrow
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I mean you normally send without being asked anyway omegalul

viral mulch
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actually nah its prob gonna instantly get banished to narnia because of the incoming text wall

winged arch
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im kinda just sitting here cuz i wanna see what bro sends but at the same time im 99% not gonna read it

wicked locust
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Same

viral mulch
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same despite i kinda caused it

wicked locust
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A paragraph far stretching the horizon

rugged sparrow
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wait are they still typing up a rebuttal for DEF Xilo case

ashen solar
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i still cant go log in, would you be available the day after tomorrow?

viral mulch
winged arch
rugged sparrow
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it's not even that deep icant

ashen solar
viral mulch
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kinda random tbh

rugged sparrow
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sometimes degen hours

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I see him at 4-5 am

sick quarry
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fesh im gonna build kinich soon kusastare

viral mulch
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hey i sleep early nowadays

rugged sparrow
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reformed

viral mulch
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altho im also like kinda busy so might not come as often still

rare prawn
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I want you, first and foremost, to understand that the advice I'm giving is oriented towards players who are not into optimizing their roster for abyss but rather, pulling the characters they like and then looking into the available options of that. Because of this, a well-rounded build is going to be preferable for players like this (i.e. Iansan-chan) who are just looking to have a well-rounded build for their characters for general use, not optimizing them for Abyss.

With that out of the way, let's look into how a well-rounded Xilonen helps players like this. A Xilonen who has some Def is, first and foremost, able to provide better defensive utility to the team by a.) being able to a more reliable quickswap option in moments of panic and b.) being able to heal better. Why is this good? Because having a Xilonen who can heal better means that the player has more slots open for teams instead of having another dedicated character who will handle defensive utility. This is called role consolidation, a valued aspect of characters inasmuch as it allows for more open teambuilding. This is one aspect why Escoffier is so valued, she consolidates multiple roles into one slot.......

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......"But this team of Neuvy/Kazuha/Furina/Xilonen doesn't need Def from Xilonen". You are probably correct. The point is that this Xilonen is that the teambuilding for this example already revolved around a set-up that already resolves for that issue. However, this is not always how people are going to formulate their roster. Maybe they don't want to pull for Neuvillette or Furina. Maybe the set-up for the current abyss is antithetical to this current set-up. So what becomes of their teambuilding prospects for Xilonen? They will have to look into other teams that will have to deal with that issue. This restricts teambuilding for Xilonen because they will need another way to circumvent Xilonen's lesser defensive utility. For more veteran players, this isn't as much an issue because their roster is more expansive, or they purposefully emulate optimal teams.** But that is not how everyone constructs their rosters****. For Iansan-chan's case, that is not what they are looking to do, and for many other people as well.

In case you're not familiar with me and my history in the Help Channel previously, the advice I usually give for the Help Channel, as I've done in the past, is advice that doesn't pigeonhole players into only playing one way to orient their characters but rather, encourage them to expand their account the way they see fit and then find options from what they've expanded upon. If the players' specifically indicates for advice that is meant to tackle endgame modes and be situationally optimized for those scenarios, by all means, this would not be much of an issue. However, that's not what every player here is looking to do, some are just looking to find a way to build characters they have and/or like in a general manner.

viral mulch
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been off for most of today cus of busy reasons oh my god its here

strange scarab
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Not reading all dat

rugged sparrow
winged arch
wicked locust
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HOLY FUCK

viral mulch
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oh my god its a tsunami help im getting swept away

rare prawn
strange scarab
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Yap yap yap just dodge

rare prawn
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the younger generation should read more KokoShock

strange scarab
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You got bennett

viral mulch
strange scarab
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Just kill the enemy before it kills you problem solved

rugged sparrow
wicked locust
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I'm unironically gonna read and give tldr wait

rugged sparrow
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same

strange scarab
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good apple

viral mulch
rare prawn
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it's just 4 paragraphs GanyUh

viral mulch
winged arch
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ok i just read the whole thing

viral mulch
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u lying

rare prawn
rugged sparrow
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was it a nothingburger or

sick quarry
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fesh is right GanyUh

rare prawn
viral mulch
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bro reacted before clicking play

wicked locust
winged arch
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im just gonna say that xilonen can sustain pretty well even unbuilt glorp

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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👍

rare prawn
viral mulch
strange scarab
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Ok

rugged sparrow
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furu is also the same person who suggested building Rainslasher on Beidou btw

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when it's mathematically proven to be worse compared to even f2p options

viral mulch
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overseer is a boring bad boss

winged arch
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Rainslasher beidou SUSGE

rugged sparrow
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I argued with him over it but w/e

viral mulch
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can you slash rain with it

rugged sparrow
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mayhaps

viral mulch
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sounds pretty cool

sick quarry
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why shouldnt i build my xilonen with def for healingGanyUh

viral mulch
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feels a little unnatural how he keeps plugging a different persons yt for an argument tho but might be just me

strange scarab
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Who said you shouldnt

rugged sparrow
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nobody in this chat ever said not to build DEF on Xilo

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saying building DEF on Xilo is unneeded =/= telling u u cant

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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who

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pls point out the msg

sick quarry
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me recalling the past weeks bc i totally remember:

viral mulch
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i recently got this for her om

rugged sparrow
neon wave
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the 4 paragraphs were just "heal good" though

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idgi

rugged sparrow
winged arch
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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I don't even.

sick quarry
# rugged sparrow who

also i dont think u help a lot considering all u did was argue with fesh and insult us, so why did u even try

rare prawn
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
opal surge
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Bro what the

wicked locust
viral mulch
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look

sick quarry
viral mulch
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oh my god told u i was cooking

sick quarry
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fesh had a point but u wanted to be right 💔

vocal pebble
rugged sparrow
neon wave
rugged sparrow
sick quarry
viral mulch
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why am i the only one who actually didnt read the textwall now i feel weird

sick quarry
rare prawn
sick quarry
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acting this childish sure shows a lot

rugged sparrow
vocal pebble
opal surge
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Not building defense on Xilonen doesn't affect teambuilding

rugged sparrow
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very mature

rugged sparrow
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and still parading on the "ure childish" icant

viral mulch
sick quarry
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.

neon wave
strange scarab
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No way they told the GIO silly guide to read more books

sick quarry
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it shows a lot how rude you are btw

neon wave
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I am not really looking to argue

vocal pebble
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Idk anymore it wasn't this the last time I was here QiqiFallen

strange scarab
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To the book chamber you go rei

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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not the b*ok

vocal pebble
winged arch
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R*ading

opal surge
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The reality and bottom line is that Xilonen does actually heal competently without building defense

sick quarry
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i asked for help not for someone to gaslight and insult us ❤️

rugged sparrow
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gotta love when someone infodumps you with their personal life unprompted and we're supposed to live on with it peepoHappy

opal surge
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And yes building more defense on Xilonen does increase her healing

neon wave
opal surge
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But it doesn't matter

rare prawn
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u need to read more RaiDerp

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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(i have no context on the argument)

vocal pebble
rare prawn
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the help channel has gone down the drain GanyUh

strange scarab
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Minmaxxing heal amount

vocal pebble
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
rare prawn
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its become a circlejerk of children just looking to stroke their ego instead of actually providing help to new players GanyUh

sick quarry
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to think everythind started from

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
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and yet he just wanted to argue

vocal pebble
opal surge
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I can assure you that not farming for defense on Xilonen and spending resin elsewhere is generally a good path for newer players to take

sick quarry
viral mulch
opal surge
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And I'm not sure how this sparked from that

rugged sparrow
vocal pebble
viral mulch
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my kokomi is very much a totm ttds bot

sick quarry
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u said i cant do abyss because of fesh advice

rugged sparrow
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well can you

viral mulch
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which i only use during theaters

rugged sparrow
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they were the one who implied abyss is "quite hard" and brings you up as example

sick quarry
# rugged sparrow well can you

i cant do abyss bc of the cyro boss, and i didnt even speak about the abyss, you just blamed fesh for it and said we are bad kek

rugged sparrow
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bro

winged arch
vocal pebble
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Idk atp GanyUh

viral mulch
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insane 2v1 in minecraft pvp versus a sweat

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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imagine struggling on SSAOD

vocal pebble
rugged sparrow
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in abyss

digital notch
rare prawn
wicked locust
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Normal helper vs competative helper

vocal pebble
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Shitting on ppl because they suck is actually messed up

viral mulch
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speaking of which @winged arch i have more than u now haha

rugged sparrow
digital notch
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We don't need race cars.
Any car would suffice.

rugged sparrow
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and then casually interjects with stickers nobody asked for

strange scarab
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Can you stop horsing around

viral mulch
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i killed a few times for that kinich showcase

strange scarab
viral mulch
sick quarry
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someone is mad that im using discord emojis

wicked locust
sick quarry
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thats wild

viral mulch
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nat geo wild

wicked locust
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There's another yap wall incoming bro brace for impact

rugged sparrow
haughty lotus
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Ah the good old days of jenshin help 😌 MualaniNotASurfboard

viral mulch
sick quarry
haughty lotus
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Youre*

vocal pebble
sick quarry
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its called an opinion, when i ddi try to help someoen i told them to ask someone else too bc im a beginner

rugged sparrow
haughty lotus
rugged sparrow
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sucking + giving bad advice is a deadly duo that I abhor

vocal pebble
viral mulch
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holy who are u to just come in and be so based the moment u come in

rare prawn
viral mulch
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wait i didnt reply

vocal pebble
rugged sparrow
vocal pebble
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I ain't getting involved in ts

strange scarab
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GIU qna is 10 times worse and thrice the amount of this

rare prawn
sick quarry
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no but its funny, why is he blaming me for having bad advice when im the one asking for help? is he blaming me cuz he didnt help me?

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
winged arch
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Y*na

rugged sparrow
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stop pretending

vocal pebble
sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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???

viral mulch
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did i spot the opinion shieldwalled advice argument

sick quarry
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you didnt help me at all then blamed me for giving bad advice

rugged sparrow
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you did

winged arch
sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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not replying to you, natchez

sick quarry
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nvm <

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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I literally answered that it's very niche

sick quarry
sick quarry
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as u started being rude

winged arch
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Also she heals and sustains fairly well without needing to be built so I don't see the issue

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
viral mulch
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ok ill give you the verdict for xilonen def build thingy
you prob farmed and will have to farm codex for a long time anyway which means youre bound to have a good amount of scroll stacked up so if you can manage the mainstats correctly then go ahead and if you dont then dont bother cus its not that important

rugged sparrow
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everyone else already said that DEF on Xilo practically does nothing icant

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nobody is arguing with that

glass tendon
strange scarab
sick quarry
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it does tho?

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it boosts healing, thats somethingkek

winged arch
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So yea just like natz and oxd said it's completely optional

glass tendon
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Is good

viral mulch
opal surge
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This is pretty circular, it's been said a couple times now that Def has increases healing, but the bottom line is that you shouldn't take this as you should spend extra effort on increasing Def on Xilonen

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Its not that deep

wicked locust
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I'll let the world burn
I'll let the world burn for you

winged arch
viral mulch
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awimbaway awimbaway

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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i know its a different song but i felt like typing it

opal surge
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I can't believe I just witnessed this discussion spark from my statement that Xilonen doesn't need def

wicked locust
viral mulch
wicked locust
# rare prawn wut song dis <:kusastare:1098659851774730240>

Stream: https://streamlink.to/ltwb

Lyrics:
Lost in the fog
I fear that there’s still further to fall
It’s dangerous ‘cause I want it all
And I don’t really care what it costs

I shouldn’t have fallen in love
Look what it made me become
I let you get too close
Just to wake up alone
And I know you think you can run
You’re scared ...

▶ Play video
opal surge
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It was aholy back read too

glass tendon
sick quarry
opal surge
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I said this days ago

winged arch
vocal pebble
winged arch
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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i blame me actually being busy irl

vocal pebble
viral mulch
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also wanted to finish up more work today so i can have more time tmr for update

rugged sparrow
opal surge
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Wait is it patch tmrw holy

viral mulch
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ye

rugged sparrow
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ye tmrw

opal surge
rugged sparrow
opal surge
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Oh chasca is second half, no patch for another 21 days

rugged sparrow
opal surge
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
opal surge
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What the helly

wicked locust
viral mulch
wicked locust
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Maybe it was someone else

rugged sparrow
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oh right Stygian

viral mulch
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awimbaway awimbaway

neon wave
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hi void

opal surge
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I'm prolly gna stall my dire attempt till second half

near prism
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@viral mulch hello sir have you decided on your next stiggy teams

viral mulch
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hi void

rugged sparrow
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oh no void is here

near prism
opal surge
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Is SO lineup official?

neon wave
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ya

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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back to whence you came demon

opal surge
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Before I get shot in the head

near prism
strange scarab
sick quarry
opal surge
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Ok cool, clorinde furina will clear that cactus fraud for me

opal surge
near prism
strange scarab
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Its so awful there that i always delete my messages after sending it there

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No visible trace of me in that junkyard

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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otherwise gonna get hit by "seeliebtw"

neon wave
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did I
but yea it's out

near prism
strange scarab
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O yea papaya in SO wonder what i gotta use for that

rugged sparrow
opal surge
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If it's not safe then blame Rei for my untimely demise

near prism
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it even has a cute diagram n stuff

neon wave
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wao

rugged sparrow
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u mentioned Cocijo for Mua

opal surge
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I don't think my mualani will clear that turtle

neon wave
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o right

opal surge
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I won't lie

rugged sparrow
strange scarab
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Can i beat it with c6r0

viral mulch
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also now that voids here i can send that i got the jerry void c6 clear for this cycle successfully

rugged sparrow
strange scarab
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Erm

opal surge
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I have R1 riNg of y*xche

neon wave
opal surge
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Is that good enough

strange scarab
neon wave
strange scarab
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the banners are gone

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Besides i dont have pulls

viral mulch
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bricked

opal surge
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Maybe it's a widsith angle for us rei

rugged sparrow
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guoballs I now sentence u as c6r0 shitter

strange scarab
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next time fo sho

winged arch
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C6r0 mavuika

opal surge
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
near prism
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@viral mulch my gameplan is mav+varesa for papilla, alhaitham or tighnari for the turtle, and whatever hydro+electro works for the cactus

strange scarab
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Lalalalala this is who you talking to a silly horse

strange scarab
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I cant hear you lalalalala

viral mulch
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my plan is chasca mualani varesa for each rn

rugged sparrow
neon wave
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You guys have a plan?

rugged sparrow
winged arch
opal surge
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I think I can prolly clear dire papilla and dire cactus

strange scarab
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Can i use burn against cocijo

earnest bone
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i still havent done the archon quest needed to unlock reputation quest

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
opal surge
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But I don't know about that turtle

near prism
rugged sparrow
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otherwise it's very bad since gauge goes brr

viral mulch
earnest bone
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AND I DID USE THE MAP, I MUST BE STUPID BECAUSE ITS ALL MARKED (I PROBABLY AM)

near prism
strange scarab
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
near prism
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she is right?iirc you liked mua

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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wrong reply

near prism
neon wave
rugged sparrow
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u burst > run off and fill FS > repeat

near prism
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oh also @viral mulch i got c0r1 mav for my varesa team this banner kek

earnest bone
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nah

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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o right that too huh

near prism
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i was considering waiting for aquamarine mav cuz it would've been funny but i cant stand c0r0

rugged sparrow
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how much does Skirk do with naked burst

earnest bone
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i did the sumeru one without a problem

winged arch
viral mulch
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
earnest bone
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im gonna rerun the interactive map one more time instead of doing reputation quests

near prism
viral mulch
vocal pebble
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Yay drama ended everybody happi now

rugged sparrow
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no

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no entertainment

strange scarab
viral mulch
winged arch
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Only person from qna I actually hate is Yuna tho

viral mulch
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i did kinich showcase today and chamber 3 looks pretty cool there too

strange scarab
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I have a long mental list of people like those but i dont bother with it anymore

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Id rather horse around

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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neigh

winged arch
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This is an addiction

rugged sparrow
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bro even Sensi isn't out of umamusume's reach

strange scarab
winged arch
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The memes are getting out of hand

strange scarab
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Its more than just horse racing you see

viral mulch
strange scarab
near prism
viral mulch
winged arch
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Oh I have image perms in this server

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I thought there was some lvl req

viral mulch
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ok everyone is sending horse memes which only means one thing

near prism
strange scarab
viral mulch
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im joining in

viral mulch
near prism
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she's playing both teams

winged arch
viral mulch
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true...

viral mulch
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nah she ballin

strange scarab
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i got a glock in my rari

winged arch
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Honse

winged arch
viral mulch
strange scarab
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im like yeah shes fine

ashen solar
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@viral mulch i could go now

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ill join your world?

viral mulch
ashen solar
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832956069 terence name

viral mulch
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ill join

ashen solar
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but im on cloud server, 3min before i enter

viral mulch
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welp ill join in 3 minutes then

ashen solar
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ill tell when its done

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its already loading in

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u can join in 1 min or smt

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my ping is very high @viral mulch

viral mulch
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lol ok

ashen solar
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im in tho

uncut herald
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Someone help me build a team! This is the saurian one (big mistake since diluc keeps yeeting them away)
I need Ayaka/shenhe/Yelan for the last boss unless it’s some how possible without them (used up Escoffier already 😭)

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Like this theatre is such a wreck I am struggling so bad 😭

rugged sparrow
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I suggest just re-doing and get more blessings atp

uncut herald
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I really want to restart completely but by this point I’ve literally spent TWO HOURS trying to get to act 9 😭

rugged sparrow
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having lv2 blessings on a struggling account by act 9 is kinda rough

sick quarry
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yh u might have to restart

quaint fern
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Yeah lvl 2 blessings is cooked

uncut herald
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It’s probably because I wasted them all on characters

sick quarry
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i dont think u can make it with low lvl blessings

rugged sparrow
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u dont need too many chars, esp if you're just getting by

opal surge
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If its that stage specifically

quaint fern
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Also picking yelan as support? I'd go arle or mavuika instead

sick quarry
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i used someone's alre c6 to kill the last bossSmugFei

uncut herald
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Which blessing branches should I be picking? Level 2 splits off and I don’t know what to pick so I avoid picking

quaint fern
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Reading challenge

uncut herald
opal surge
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Doesn't really matter tbh

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I dont really ready blessings I just click one

quaint fern
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Yk you can preview the blessing branches right?

uncut herald
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Yeah

safe wedge
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What's a team I can use for a solid while, diluc being the dps ofcourse, [diluc and iansan are c1, rest are c0]

sick quarry
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iansan works with diluc?

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i sure am the goat thenkusastare

rugged sparrow
safe wedge
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How does kaeya sound for a melt team?

safe wedge
rugged sparrow
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sure, a bit technical to play properly but sure

safe wedge
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But if fischl is the better option then I'll go with her

rugged sparrow
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Iansan at low AR level is just blergh, also low const

rugged sparrow
safe wedge
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I use her es to travel

safe wedge
sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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(she isn't)

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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?

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is this another one of your "opinions"

sick quarry
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most natlan characters move around, and iansan uses the support set thingy that gives energy

rugged sparrow
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if she's made for Natlan char, go run Mualani and Iansan and tell me how it turns out

rugged sparrow
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?

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wheres Mualani in that

sick quarry
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iansan is mostly used in teams with natlan characters because of her passive GanyUh

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and her set of course

rugged sparrow
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doesn't mean she's "made for Natlan chars"

sick quarry
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she is tho GanyUh

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
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there are few others characters u can use her with

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and even then they dont benefit that much

rugged sparrow
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who

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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you failing to name even one already tells your lack of understanding

bright cape
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kinich n mavuika can also run her right?

rugged sparrow
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yes they can run her

sick quarry
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because i only use her with natlan chars?

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i dont see ur logic, and it has a hole in it

rugged sparrow
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so you yap something you confidently know nothing about

sick quarry
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name a character that 100% benefits from iansan

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not from natlan

rugged sparrow
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Tigh, Clorinde, Xiao, to name a few

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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Fischl and Xiangling can snapshot her buffs

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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yes, Tighnari

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
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iansan needs constant movement or from time to time

sick quarry
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and the skill

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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do u not understand what snapshot means

sick quarry
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i reallly dont, i barely play the game even if i pay attention to my main.

bright cape
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u r scaring the child away @rugged sparrow cri

sick quarry
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also, iansan IS made for natlan characters, they move a lotkusastare

rugged sparrow
sick quarry
neon wave
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natlan chars tend to move a lot but any other character that moves can benefit from her

bright cape
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true

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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and we got decent amount of chars that move outside of Natlanese

rugged sparrow
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and chars that can just snapshot her buff so movement isn't required

sick quarry
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i agree but natlan characters depend more on her than any other character, and shes a essential support for them.

rugged sparrow
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essential no

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Chasca Mav Kinich and Mualani can function without her

neon wave
sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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Varesa also can but that's a separate topic

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
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well I'm saying she's not made for them icant

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which is true because each of them can function without her

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unlike Bennett and Xiangling, for example

sick quarry
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ok

bright cape
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fugget about it

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i wish bennett got nightsoul capability after his outfit

rugged sparrow
#

too broken

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cant give him free 40% dmg buff icant

nova osprey
#

any (fontaine) chest experts here? I can't find this one, above ground or underground T_T

bright cape
#

mavuika team will be full nightsoul complete

rugged sparrow
#

bro singlehandedly holds Genshin meta on a chokehold

bright cape
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it's only coz genshin mainly consists of atk scaling dps

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imagine if we had def and hp scaling in similar proportions

rugged sparrow
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pretty much

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also the fact that Bennett's buff surpassess its peer even with diff scaling

bright cape
#

yah. iansan should have had higer buff than benny

#

it's already restrained

opal surge
#

Iansan does have a higher buff than bennett

rugged sparrow
#

fwiw their buff is around equal if they're not buffing pyro DPS

bright cape
#

i thought it was lower than aquilla bennett

opal surge
#

Bennett is a healer + completes Pyro resonancen

bright cape
#

oh i see.

rugged sparrow
opal surge
#

Aquila Bennett is like not really real, but also iansan holds scroll Vs Nob/ins, can hold fav and gives generic damage percent

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Iansan does have more buffs than Bennett if you can maintain iansan buffs

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They just don't exactly do the same

neon wave
rugged sparrow
neon wave
#

give me c0 pleas

rugged sparrow
#

also idr if I asked this but how good Iansan for Chasca assuming neutral match up

opal surge
rugged sparrow
#

Cit Bennett Furina is better right anyway

nova osprey
opal surge
rugged sparrow
opal surge
#

For mavuika citlali I mean

rugged sparrow
#

that's pretty pog

opal surge
#

But the difference kinda gets lost with chasca cons

rugged sparrow
#

idk what Chasca cons does

opal surge
#

It partially unrestricts her from wanting 3 different phec

#

So mavuika Bennett no longer has the downside of both being pyro

rugged sparrow
#

oh right

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that's her c2 or smth right

opal surge
#

C1 and C2 both

rugged sparrow
opal surge
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C1 makes her A4 bullet load PHEC with a 100% chance instead of 66% chance with 2 different PHEC

rugged sparrow
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why Natlanese consts so broken

opal surge
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And C2 gives her the stack she loses

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(both cons do other things too)

rugged sparrow
#

???

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

my condolences

cedar flint
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probably cus her base kit is cooked they went all in on cons to earn a few extra bucks

lyric cargo
opal surge
cedar flint
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and than you meet the dreaded more than one enemy spooky

opal surge
cedar flint
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my iansan pulls were fantastic tho got c5 on release and c6 on rerun

crude dirge
#

will kirill be actual character name
i think ppl call him flins?

opal surge
#

his name will be flins

cedar flint
#

nodkrai aoe meta incoming trust

opal surge
#

Thats what is on his card

lyric cargo
cedar flint
opal surge
crude dirge
opal surge
#

if you discount gaming and diluc melt plunge (you should)

bright cape
cedar flint
opal surge
#

yeah

bright cape
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it would suck aoe chars doing more damage than st dps

lyric cargo
opal surge
cedar flint
crude dirge
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yeah his name is kirill flins chudomerovich

bright cape
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i wish there was aoe endgame too though.
so venti could shine cri

crude dirge
#

everyone says that

bright cape
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n kazuha too

lyric cargo
bright cape
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i haven't used him in months

cedar flint
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My venti is still lvl 70 and I got him during 1.0

opal surge
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The problem with AoE endgame is that AoE feels bad to play for a bunch of characters

crude dirge
#

mavuika

opal surge
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because AoE endgame inherently implies multiwave

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And really quite many especially older characters are actually bad into multiwave

cedar flint
crude dirge
#

oh wait

cedar flint
#

actually don’t like using her cus of that

crude dirge
#

no its kyryll

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the first time they actually called character by normal name?

neon wave
#

in eng he's been marketed as flins

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dunno about other languages

crude dirge
neon wave
#

also I'm pretty sure "normal name" kinda just depends on where you're from kek

crude dirge
#

on the wiki it says flins but in name section flins is last

neon wave
#

doesn't sound particularly normal to me

crude dirge
#

i have one in my class

crude dirge
#

are here actually kaeyas or klees

cedar flint
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only cus the name is from a different culture doesn’t meant it’s not normal

crude dirge
#

i can understand liyue names might be real

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but not others

opal surge
#

???????????

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are you saying that the names are missing their family names? is that what youre trying to get at?

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In which case inazuma has "normal" names

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but it just depends on region it was regionally adapted to the cultural inspo

crude dirge
cedar flint
#

Barbara is a old fashioned name used to be popular in the 20th century and maybe even before

crude dirge
#

alice

opal surge
#

barbara is a completely common name in europe what

neon wave
#

yeah

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(alice too)

cedar flint
#

There was also a storm named Barbara a few years ago

opal surge
#

All the names are "real"

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as in there are "real" people who have those names

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with the exceptions of obvious titles such as raiden shogun

cedar flint
neon wave
#

my aunt is named barbara

#

but yeah it's not a "young" name here
Still decently common

crude dirge
#

inazuma characters have full names only on main 3 game languages?

opal surge
#

its not a young name but also a lot of europe is made of not young people

neon wave
#

true...

opal surge
#

im way below the average age in germany but im already decidedly too old to be sheeting genshin

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old people are real people too 😔

cedar flint
#

Give it 20 more years

neon wave
#

are they

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avg age in italy is probably 60 or something

opal surge
#

(also holy fk the average age in germany is 44 what the helly)

neon wave
#

no I lied

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It's 47

cedar flint
#

Barbara does just sound old I will be honest now days names are a lot simpler

crude dirge
#

genders are made up by toilet companies and government to sell twice as much toilets

neon wave
#

among the highest in the world apparently

neon wave
cedar flint
#

tbf I would consider calling my daughter Emilia if I ever get married and get a kid so I can’t complain

opal surge
#

I know of two ( 2) barbaras which are younger than me therefore by my extremely limited anecdotal evidence you must be wrong

cedar flint
#

The man behind the slaughter

crude dirge
#

6%🥀

haughty lotus
burnt flower
#

when is banner coming?

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
burnt flower
#

oh yea, there is maintenance

#

thanks

valid anchor
violet cipher
#

For Stygian Onslaught, would there be any situations where Chasca’s kit would be necessary to have?
(My Chasca’s supports are currently taken by Mavuika, Skirk and Arlechino so I don’t see a reason to get her cons or sig but I just wanna make sure)

opal surge
#

as in is there a boss that literally only chasca can clear? no

#

thatd be silly

rugged sparrow
#

Chasca is not Mavuika, silly

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we only take Mav shills here yep

#

but yeah even older chars can clear Stygian Onslaught
Dire is an entirely diff topic though unless you wanna include higher vertical investment

violet cipher
#

I was thinking of what to vertically invest in cause:

  1. Trying to clear Dire might be fun if I vertically invest
  2. I have 6 good carries to pick from with no investment besides other character's sigs (ex: Neuvilette wep on Mualani) and the only good support I don't have is C6 Iansan/Chev and Xilonen, so I'm reaching a point where vertical investment might be better.
    Obviously rn the best character to invest in is Skirk but idk when her rerun is coming, meanwhile Chasca's banner is coming up - also Mualani but because no Xilonen it's kinda hard to play her.
opal surge
#

I actually dont know if skirk can clear any of the 3 upcoming bosses on dire

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Onslaught is extremely matchup based and its difficult to pick and choose vertical for generic SO

violet cipher
#

ok, so I guess I'll just go for the 'pull who you like mentality' and check if I should get cons or wep for a character I like and then go for there?

rugged sparrow
#

like her worst match up is probably Cocijo assuming it retains similarity to overworld version

violet cipher
#

What should my supports be for Mualani? I was thinking Mavuika/Citlali then the last slot is a bit iffy. Maybe Yelan?

rugged sparrow
#

Dire LDS, Tulpa, and SSAOD can be cleared with Chasca with decent vertical invest arahmm

violet cipher
#

k, ty

rugged sparrow
#

gonna be mald though playing Mua Mav Cit setup

violet cipher
#

YeQiqiLurk

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
feral reef
slender stream
#

hey i went to go get my birthday cake for this year but maintance is up and ends at reset is there any way i can still get it please help

#

please please help is there some kind of support i can contact???

hazy lotus
#

genshin maintenance ends like an hour early a lot of times so maybe u can try popping in right before reset and see if its back up

#

happy birthday btw

#

if it makes u feel better i am missing the first cake i think

slender stream
#

thank you :( i missed last years so i am actually so scared of missing this one

forest venture
#

may the creator refine you

bright cape
#

this might be the first time i am seeing the door open at 11 QiqiLurk

hazy lotus
#

@slender stream it’s up now u got 12 min

slender stream
#

i logged in but its not in my inbox

#

whatd i do wrong?

strange scarab
#

Gg missed

slender stream
#

i guess i'll send it a customer support ticket bc this was still prior to reset? only thing i can think to do. left and relogged too :( thank u for the ping tho that was very sweet

strange scarab
#

Surely they would reply months later

slender stream
#

as long as i get my favorite region cake i guess lol. really have no clue what i did wrong

hazy lotus
#

oh wait i think it’s cause

#

it ends at 12 not at reset

slender stream
#

pretty sure its a reset? wiki says as long as you log in at any point during that day you'll get it. but ofc the wiki could be wrong

hazy lotus
#

well the wiki probably knows better than me

#

idk then rip that’s really unlucky

slender stream
#

i have just been informed for whatever reason the reset was bumped down to 10pm recently instead of 11pm. thats cool...

#

i remember when i played until reset it was always at 11 but i guess it changed. lamee

hazy lotus
#

must be a daylights savings thing

slender stream
#

well either way ticket was sent in but if nothin happens then oh well. again ty for the ping it was very nice

strange scarab
#

It has to be daylight savings otherwise theres no reason for them to do so

#

besides idt they'd care if you missed memorables

dapper heron
#

Guys has the new update dropped?

neon wave
#

yes

midnight pond
#

for neuv (c1 but no sig) + furina (no sig), is hydro or hp goblet better
no kazuha

bright cape
#

how do i exit this guy?

neon wave
lyric cargo
#

in 4-player co-op, how does someone playing on mobile change their char? panic

usually you need to hold down on one of your chars, but mobile hides your active char and only shows the 3 co-op teammates. and you can't hold on their chars VentiLipBite

#

so, Natlan (same as Fontaine) has unlimited weapon ascension mats in the sigil shop

neon wave
lyric cargo
lusty tulip
#

how to get here?

strange scarab
#

By going there

thorn bay
tawny vigil
#

Can I use ganyu as an sub dps for skirk

lyric cargo
strange scarab
cedar flint
cloud cobalt
#

how do you get to nod kai?

crude dirge
strange scarab
dapper heron
#

Guys I pre installed yesterday. Why is this still installing ?

#

Or is it installing the pre downloaded content ?

idle furnace
dapper heron
#

Should I pull for citalali

haughty lotus
#

Yes

dapper heron
#

Hehe wish me luck guys

cedar flint
#

you do need her for mavuika to work on your acc

#

since you got no other good source of fighting spirit

#

also the 4* on the banners would be valuable for you

rugged sparrow
#

Xingqiu and Fischl are highly valuable 4-stars

cedar flint
#

and sethos is alright if you like his design

dapper heron
#

Hehe 50 wish in. 40 more to go

#

Nvm out of primos

rugged sparrow
#

time to farm more

dapper heron
#

Got this guy c3

#

Ans fishcl c0

rugged sparrow
#

how about Xq

forest venture
#

you have so much content unless you don't really have time to play, you'll get her guaranteed

dapper heron
rugged sparrow
forest venture
#

pull yelan

dapper heron
#

She rerunning anytime soon?

dapper heron
rugged sparrow
#

no one knows

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
#

Sethos is alright but is heavily incentivized to play on aggravate teams

dapper heron
#

Ah

rugged sparrow
#

just need to get free Collei from abyss

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
crude dirge
#

still

#

hes sumeru

rugged sparrow
#

ok?

dapper heron
#

Should I start the summer event😂

rugged sparrow
#

mayhaps

cedar flint
reef heron
#

is there a good team that i can use to play gaming melt from my roster?

cedar flint
#

You’re cooked

reef heron
#

mine uses gaming furina sucrose bennett for vape

rugged sparrow
reef heron
#

next it no hydro

cedar flint
#

you are able to pull for the best melt support rn tho

rugged sparrow
#

but no const on Diona/Rosa is just rough

cedar flint
#

since peaklali is on banner

#

tho ga ming before c6 leaves much to be desired

reef heron
dapper heron
opal surge
#

do I get this hmm

rugged sparrow
opal surge
#

what the helly

neon wave
#

whel

#

it is nicer than her base design

strange scarab
#

All because she got a hairdo

wide dirge
#

Finally got a "decent" circlet for Mavuika, is this build finished?

neon wave
#

looks good

wide dirge
#

Finally after 5 months of elixir usage

neon wave
#

I bet OMEGALUL great pieces though

wide dirge
#

Not sure what that means, sorry

neon wave
#

I mean I can imagine that needing a bunch of elixirs

dapper heron
#

Wait wtf bennet has 7 dads?

thorn bay
opal surge
#

1400 atack is crazy

#

but ig what can you do with redhorn xd

wide dirge
crude dirge
#

still gonna miss crits

lyric cargo
valid anchor
# opal surge do I get this <:hmm:1253409726939795526>

Purchasing by paying 1350 Genesis Crystals. OR 1680 from 6.0 onwards.
How getting Genesis Crystals? Purchase either welkin (gives you 300 each time), or diretly purchase Genesis Crystals.

You don't need to have the character, but you won't be able to use it until you get Yelan.

vapid egret
#

Should I svae for chasca sig or pull for Citlali?

strange scarab
#

Up to you

thorn bay
vapid egret
thorn bay
#

I’m gonna do for chasca sig

feral reef
thorn bay
feral reef
#

How good is ineffa
Obv citlali better for mav and that but ineffa seems interesting

thorn bay
#

Not Sethos because he scales on em sadly

vapid egret
#

except for chasca

thorn bay
valid anchor
vapid egret
thorn bay
#

Good point

#

Go for con then I’ll still go for weapon

vapid egret
thorn bay
vapid egret
thorn bay
#

Ohh

#

I thought you meant cons

#

Ye totally go for Citlali then

vapid egret
thorn bay
#

I’m sorry

vapid egret
vapid egret
#

is it me or does akasha suddenly need a vpn

safe wedge
#

Good idea to save primos if my current team if diluc, fischl, benett and sucrose?

#

I feel like fischl and diluc's overcharge isn't consistent since Oz doesn't apply charged effect with a good speed also, it's single target without ult

subtle coral
#

should i pull citlali or save for a new dps or something?

my current teams are: mavuika c2 gravstone, xilo/c4iansan, rosaria instructors, bennoi // nuvic1 kazu furinac1 flex // I might need a 3ed good dps as i dont have one

haughty lotus
#

Citlali

subtle coral
haughty lotus
#

Big increase for mavuika

subtle coral
opal surge
#

This is an official genshin server

opal surge
crude dirge
#

if anything wasnt officially announced then dont mention it

blazing cliff
#

Oops. My bad guys. Learned my lesson

opal surge
#

Over Rosa she provides: No circle impact, ttds/evenstar, shred, FS, easier Pyro overwhelm, can go tom/Xilo go ins

crude dirge
#

all we know is that shes dendro i think? was her vision in the trailer

opal surge
#

And she can fix your ping/bad play by pressing n1

opal surge
#

Not really no

#

She's okay with skirk

crude dirge
#

shes the only scroll holder tho

opal surge
#

She is not scrolling in skirk teams

#

That does not work

crude dirge
#

also shielder for calamity of eshu

blazing cliff
#

I use citlali with skirk bc of my skirk weapon

opal surge
#

Calamity is whatever

#

It's better to use finale and play yelan (mualani)

#

Than play eshu and play citlali

crude dirge
#

what finale gives

opal surge
#

She's good with every Pyro carry except hu tao, good for neuvilette, chasca, and she is acceptable 4th slot for skirk and mualani

rugged sparrow
#

a lot of atk

opal surge
crude dirge
#

attack for bond of life clear?

opal surge
#

Amongst other atk yes

crude dirge
#

is base attack good

opal surge
#

It does not give base attack

crude dirge
#

i mean is the base attack on it good

opal surge
#

Its the same I think, not that it matters

#

(as eshu)

crude dirge
#

like 550 smth?

blazing cliff
#

After 5.8 patch, will it be 6.0 or will there be 5.9?

opal surge
#

565

blazing cliff
#

Thanks. Time to save primos

valid anchor
#

Devices' requirements may be revised and updated as well.

tiny swift
#

Hiya , my friend has Mulani and Madame ping , who should she wish for

valid anchor
dense birch
#

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hearty solstice
#

do I pull for Mualani or Chasca? I don't have Furina

strange scarab
#

Pull whoever you like

sudden olive
#

Can anyone help? I recently went back to sumeru because I remembered i never finished the 76 aranara chest and the aranara there says the treasures are ready but won't let me claim them

#

Im pretty sure I have them all now the only ones missing where from two quests I hadn't finished

past saddle
#

Is citlali required for mavuika or can I substitute with iansan?

sudden olive
#

I went back to the game after it reloaded (from coming to discord) and now it's says they aren't ready 😭

#

I didn't open anything, is this a bug?

strange scarab
sudden olive
#

The thing I'm most confused about is the aranara not deciding if they are ready 😭

strange scarab
strange scarab
sudden olive
#

Yeah but then why does it sometimes say that they are ready

strange scarab
#

You're getting dialogues that indicates you havent found all of them

sudden olive
#

I see

strong wolf
#

which one is better?

sudden olive
#

I was just confused because those two pictures I sent where just taken before and after rejoining the game

#

So i hadn't opened anything

strange scarab
#

obviously the one with less dead rolls

sudden olive
#

Ig it's just the dialogue thats bugged

haughty lotus
sudden olive
strange scarab
sudden olive
#

Oh

#

Sorry I didn't read it right 😭

#

I thought the first 3 were with 31-63 and the last 3 with 64

pearl marsh
#

168 Er is enougu for Citlali right? I was doing a rotations on desert robot thing and I had enough every rotation. Idk if it'll be enough for every enemy tho

opal surge
#

Depends on the team

pearl marsh
opal surge
#

That Xiangling makes your team worse by about 30-40% because she takes Mavs melts

#

Compared to not playing a 4th character

#

Assuming you are using Xiangling eq

#

But as to your original question if she can burst every rotation it's enough yeah, generally with Mav Xilo that's about what she needs

pearl marsh
hazy lotus
#

do you like not have bennett

#

or sucrose even if all you’re using xiangling for is 15% pyro shred

glad lance
#

what team i can make?

opal surge
#

Mav iansan citlali kaeya

#

Get Bennett when you can from shop/wherever and replace kaeya with bennettt

pearl marsh
late pebble
strange scarab
#

You one shotted the boss whats wrong with it

#

Congrats you can kill cryo regi

late pebble
#

Thats her premium team evilemoji

strange scarab
#

Who wouldve thought

pearl marsh
#

He's only getting 600k with her premium team

pearl marsh
late pebble
#

Citlali has 1k em with her sig and xilonen has 4k def im so confused

strange scarab
#

Yoire not melting then

#

is xilo on sig

late pebble
#

No

strange scarab
#

Her def is pointless then

pearl marsh
strange scarab
#

but thats not an issue

pearl marsh
#

What are the artifacts?

late pebble
#

The one that comes with obsidian

strange scarab
#

But then what does cit use

pearl marsh
late pebble
#

Both

strange scarab
#

Why would you give both scroll

#

they dont stack

pearl marsh
#

Citlali should be on scroll and Xilonen should be on petra or instructors

strange scarab
#

the way i see it though your tap E before burst deletes the cryo aura and youre not melting

pearl marsh
#

Also test Citlali with r5 ttds, it might be better for Mavuika than her r1 sig

strange scarab
#

The melt word when she bursts seems to be citlali removing the pyro aura

pearl marsh
#

Also try on desert robot boss, it's easier to do rotations on.

strange scarab
#

Doesnt seem to be much different when both doesnt move

late pebble
#

My mav cant hit that high without melt