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how sweaty must have he played?

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I mean

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Sapwood Bennett, TTDS Cit, Fav XL Chev Iansan Furina Shenhe

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it's already pretty normal

bright cape
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now i think about it yah

rugged sparrow
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if it's 4-star weap on DPS then kek

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it's not that different

whole turret
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jamie is one of the sweatiest genshin players ever

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since we start with zero energy

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he literally frame counts to find optimal combos

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heck Cit might even Sac for all we care

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but I doubt it's enough dmg without TTDS

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we'll find out later ig

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what I'm curious is Sara's and Escoff's

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I'm guessing Fading Twilight Sara and Deathmatch Escoff (assuming they're what he considers "supports")

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escoff might just be using fav

rugged sparrow
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that's just grief

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considering battlepass as 4 stars sounds weird

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any chance benett is using that weird 4 star with over 600 base atk?

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already double Fav (Shen Fur), Escoff going another Fav is just tanking dmg a lot

whole turret
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oh yeah true

bright cape
rugged sparrow
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ehhh I wouldn't specifically pull for it

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i think i have that weapon

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not getting skyward or aquilla anytime from standard QiqiLurk

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Sapwood gets the job done

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and many 5 star swords

whole turret
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this has 620 base atk??

rugged sparrow
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and fixes your ER

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it does have 621 base, yes

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nah skyward my goat

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or win from standard

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no reason to go for other weap if u got Skyward Pepe_Sleep
at most Mist for some specific setups

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whole turret
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it was for some weird testing

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it does technically increase hp so more damage idk

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u got a ton of variety

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damn, overcapping CR on chasca is easy VentiLipBite

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no shot you can run skyward harp and not overcap

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i was like

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what is this cursed ass yelan build

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they're both CR ascension bow users

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that's why

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doomed goblet

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+56

lyric cargo
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yeah, this build can easily lose 10% CR on the goblet

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that leaves room for ~6% CR

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Skyward gives 22.1%, so that's ~16% overcap

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rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
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most atk goblets, I gave up on when they missed once

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this one I kept leveling because of Iansan

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i have this on her

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holy flat hp

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you'd think getting good atk goblets and atk sands is equally hard ^^

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goblets are much harder

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but just on codex I have two great atk sands

rugged sparrow
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747

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so yeah, atk% goblet about 80% as likely as atk% sands

whole turret
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i just want 1 good em codex sands

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one that doesnt have 16 crit rate on it 😭

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how tf am i supposed to use this on a character that already has a crit rate sig weapon

lyric cargo
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would need other pieces all to roll mostly CD

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I'd need to swap for a circlet that rolled more into EM / atk%

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wtf is that circlet

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one of the first artifacts I ever got

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your build is amazing damnn

lyric cargo
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I had exactly 60% CR before I got that flower panic

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now I can actually not crit sometimes, and it makes me want to keep farming

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not 100% = 50%

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just reshape that goblet and get 1 more cr roll clueless

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this was her previous build

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mid build but 100% crit rate ig

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higher em too

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only difference is the flower

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8 useful subs vs 6

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6.4 roll value vs 5.3

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but I agree that the previous one "looks" nicer if you don't look too closely at her atk

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build diff is:
+9.3% atk
-1.2% CR
-7 EM
+0.8% CD

sick quarry
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For Skirk, does she require a lot of ER if so how much?

Does Mulani need HP goblet or hydro dmg goblet? My friend wants to use Qiqi, Dahila, and Barbara.

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crude dirge
cedar flint
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qiqi dahila and Barbra

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negative dmg team if I ever saw one

cedar flint
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team dps is going to be 101% skirk

crude dirge
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especially with ttds

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but it just shows how broken cinder city is

crude dirge
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i feel like we get citlali rerun next istg

cedar flint
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we probably will

crude dirge
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must be one

cedar flint
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she came out with mavuika and they want to hollow our wallets before nodkrai

quaint fern
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surely she wont get wrio'ed

crude dirge
quaint fern
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neuvi getting two reruns before wrio was so funny OMEGALUL

cedar flint
crude dirge
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when actual albedo rerun

whole turret
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less attack though

bright cape
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it’s crazy shenhe got banner after chronicled

sick quarry
rugged sparrow
crude dirge
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dahlia just gives shield here, qiqi and barbara useless

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Mind if I send my friend character list here?

rugged sparrow
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sure

neon harness
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sick quarry
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in any case the core is Skirk + Escoffier
you need an off-field hydro to consistently trigger freeze and your only option rn is Barbara. Candace is an option if she's c6
which comes down to Skirk + Escoff + Barb/c6 Candace + 1 (Layla / Dahlia)

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it's at the very least functional until your friend get better hydro off-fielders

sick quarry
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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U don't need to calculate every thing u do in video games that's the fun
Do what u enjoy QiqiLurk

viral mulch
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it's fun yep

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Wait he has 90 lvl characters KokoShock

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"low progress"
has high level chars
???

sick quarry
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Maybe he can but not past 10 floor anyway

rugged sparrow
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yes because people like you keep recommending someone to "have fun" and suggest fuckall icant

sick quarry
sick quarry
viral mulch
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if youre gonna say just do whatever u want have fun type of message its probably best you dont say that to help channel ppl who wants help

rugged sparrow
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then maybe go to other channels instead of help channels

sick quarry
viral mulch
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so true...

crude dirge
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enjoy having 0 primos for inability to complete new content

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opal surge
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spreadsheet gamer needs to be deprived of oxygen

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What the helly

lyric cargo
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optimizing is where the fun is for me as well

opal surge
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Im currently working on retroactively sheeting every DPS's 1-2 most notable teams sunfire

rugged sparrow
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oh god oh no

opal surge
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its taking quite a while though

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Sensi has joined umamusume guild

opal surge
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how the mighty has fallen

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The horses have got to me I fear

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for me the most fun i have in a game is when i am just strong enough to clear the content

rugged sparrow
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optimizing =/= spending 90% of game time on spreadsheets

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the latter is only for poe fanatics (which unfortunately Sensi is)

opal surge
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I wont lie I have been looking into some Uma Musume numbers

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god save this man

honest vale
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I’m a casual player, does anyone have any insight as to what the standard/minimum is for a wanderer build to be considered okay or decent 😭?

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viral mulch
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if you don't know how to count the subs just go to websites like akasha / even hoyolab and they'll display the count (as you highlight them)
pictures for reference

viral mulch
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also funny how ER% isn't considered useful sub for Klee Sadge

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she needs like a couple to burst every rot

haughty lotus
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Also er on Emilie 😞

rugged sparrow
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yeah

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even Chiori
and then u see the rotation given by Mimee
burst every other rot
cinema

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burst every 10 rots

honest vale
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SSAOD Dire diff

honest vale
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honest vale
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No

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input your UID and see your builds

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it'll display the useful subs like this (you can even toggle them as you wish)

honest vale
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The number of useful substats should be 25+ then?

rugged sparrow
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for an "okay" build imo, yes

honest vale
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Oh it’s outdated

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It says I’m ar45 and I haven’t been ar45 in years haha

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Is there a way to fix that?

cedar flint
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Click refresh

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is your in-game profile public

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if so just click refresh yes

cedar flint
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and that

honest vale
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Oh gotcha

rugged sparrow
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it says the last time it updates

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on the top right

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and it directly takes the data of characters you have displayed on your profile

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so you need to make them public or else it won't update

honest vale
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Wait so the bottom numbers are what I’m supposed to look at?

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The ones next to the pictograms in white?

rugged sparrow
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it already highlights them for you (automatically) in orange outline

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right now it highlights cr cdmg atk% and ER%

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and the total sums up to 20 useful rolls

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c0 Wanderer doesn't really consider ER% as useful as far as I'm aware so you can turn the highlight off

honest vale
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Ohh I see what u mean

rugged sparrow
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problem with your Wanderer build rn is just

  1. overall just lacking in terms of useful rolls
  2. skewed crit ratio (a good crit ratio should be 1:2 until crit rate caps at 100%)
honest vale
lyric cargo
honest vale
rugged sparrow
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an artifact can have a theoretical ceiling of 900 Roll Value (RV)

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if you see the numbers of each individual artifact you have, it represents each of their RV

rugged sparrow
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just aim for 600-700 on each piece

honest vale
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But you want at least 25 useful rolls total?

rugged sparrow
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500 is okay/fine

honest vale
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25 is just what I consider as a "passable" build

honest vale
honest vale
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it's not exactly a clear cut opinion
you'll see someone call builds with 35 subs or lower trash so omegadance

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# honest vale What would be “good” roll value?

everyone has different standards,
but what I've found to be realistic with the time I'm willing to farm is
7 useful substats on flower / plume
5 useful substats on sands / goblet / circlet

with average rolls, that'd give roll value of ~600% for flower/plume and ~425% for others

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yeah
maybe that's a bit high to aim for a beginner, it takes months to get really good artifacts

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honest vale
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This was very comprehensive!! Many thanks to the both of u

rugged sparrow
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I had an 8 substat plume that Escoffier took

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why u gotta rub it in

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ill end ur lineage

lyric cargo
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actually idr my Fischl's current build

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Im just grinding Mare/GT just because idk what to farm

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quaint fern
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idk when akasha grabbed this tho

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yeah idk if I should even strongbox gt anymore

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my escoffier and furina are at a good spot

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am strongboxing Nighttime but idk if I want to KeK

hazy lotus
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this was mine before i had to steal half of it for escoffier

quaint fern
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I'd rather just craft a new escoffier goblet or atk sands than box it

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I really need a harp for my fischl 😔

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I'm surprised that I haven't gotten one from standard

bright cape
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same

lyric cargo
bright cape
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i wish hoyo gave us weapon exchange

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for anni

hazy lotus
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would gladly exchange my VV n amos

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“im only gonna go to one five star” “okay one more” “nah surely this one won’t be harp again”

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hazy lotus
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and then ended up with r5 harp before redhorn HeheSmile

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I dont think OXD is cooking up the nighttime ningguang

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yeah for Navia

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missing 2 pieces, either feather sands or circ

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cuz I kinda wanna try actual on-field Navia

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so far she's always only been a quickswap omegadance

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Diluc

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oh wrong set sry

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the one I was thinking of can't even be strongboxed

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LNO?

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yeah

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yeah I'll need to strongbox LNO too eventually for my Xianyun

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farming it is ass though cuz I have no one for Galleries gladge

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@opal surge help

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they put Miasmic Jane Doe on Shiyu7 AINTNOWAY

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opal surge
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What the helly

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i would have gladly crowned her skill if my artifacts were that good

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and she's not even lvl 90

quaint fern
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should I do an abyss run today or try dire ssao?

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quaint fern
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my escoffier is mainly a byproduct of furina maxxing

hazy lotus
rugged sparrow
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are u telling me u, a cryo main, cant clear dire ssaod

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yah. i think u can first try dire ssaod

quaint fern
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i haven't actually given it a shot yet LOL

hazy lotus
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i actually 90d her like yesterday to see if it’d make any difference for dire onslaught but it was pretty insignificant tbh

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bruh

quaint fern
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It'll probably be easy

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I can 56s fearless

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i was so glad my fotaine team still works for abyss

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the ease of clearing with this vs natlan is night n day though

hazy lotus
quaint fern
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I started working way more on my talents because of SO
triple crowned Navia today

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also citlali can freeze them in place

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ororon too

quaint fern
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well i was trying ganyu on that half

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so yk, ganyu main things

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who were other teammates?

quaint fern
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skirk did carry first half

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yoimiya wheelchair

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may be bennett burst and kazuha can clear those?

quaint fern
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I used this last time

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It was on that day that I learned that Hu Tao actually applies so much pyro, that with 3 cryo offfielders she still overwhelms cryo aura

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but kazuha's burst should clear right?

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Klee superior pyro DPS fr (ignore the fact that Wrio half only took less than a minute each chamber)

quaint fern
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put the c1 chiori in the bag

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ik

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GURU GURU KOMA-CHAN

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no kachina if you had c1 HeheSmile

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sssh

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I wouldve played citlali here

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I only recorded this for someone here who wanted to see a sample for their own clear

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oh true. she also gives shield to arle KokoShock

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res shred n ttds too. KeqingWow

rugged sparrow
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ye

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its kinda funny how this guy stalls for a minute

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meanwhile ssaod dies in less than 18 seconds

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i think arle needs her more than mavuika

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EulaThink_Eri mavuika overloaded seems to clear just fine

rugged sparrow
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ehh I mean

opal surge
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arle overload is quite close to mavuika overload

rugged sparrow
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Klee monopyro team from 1.6 still clears just fine

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so smile

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yah. but i don't have klee

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mavuika damage goes to the moon when she swaps to melt, arle damage doesnt actually change much

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between melt and overload

rugged sparrow
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missing that melted roadkill hit

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with perfect inhuman play overload might actually outperform

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for arle

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sad thing is both want bennett

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is mavuika, citlali, xilonen, iansan better?

rugged sparrow
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better no

opal surge
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no

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but it's workable

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it's probably less DPS loss than when you take Bennett from other pyro carries

real shadow
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is hsr or wuwa more fun to play

quaint fern
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umamusume

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dota 2

opal surge
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you should try yourself

jolly junco
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both would like bennett but both can still clear without him

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real shadow
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yes

opal surge
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theres a skip button now

bright cape
rugged sparrow
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play ZZZ it has Lycaon

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wuwa's powercreep is like genshin's 1.x,2.x

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the only game, in fact

bright cape
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so it feels just as comfy

rugged sparrow
bright cape
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sadly i don't feel genshin as comfy these days

rugged sparrow
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Genshin powercreep didn't even take place until like Fontaine smile

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having to pull skirk to clear ssaod fearless felt so disgusting

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i was like genshin didn't used to be this constrained

rugged sparrow
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eh you dont need Skirk for fearless

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my friend cleared SSAOD with melt Arle out of spite

bright cape
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i had like zero cryo onfielders. so

rugged sparrow
bright cape
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*fearless SSAOD

quaint fern
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it was a escoffier check

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Citlali yes but if anything it makes it a lot more difficult for Arle

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since you'd need to constantly dodge during its power up

bright cape
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the boss had reduced res for cryo

rugged sparrow
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it does

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i could have beaten if i had like built ganyu or ayaka.

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but my roster was so dry

jolly junco
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i did it with 20s to spare with chasca, bennett, citlali, layla, deliberately didn't use escoffier even though she'd be ideal

bright cape
jolly junco
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if c1 can clear with 20s to spare this is c0 doable

bright cape
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she gives normals buff too

rugged sparrow
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the buff is kinda ehhhhhh for the most part

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only few chars can abuse it like Chascuh

bright cape
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layla and any other cryo catalyst can stop the rotation

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i use charlotte

jolly junco
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it took my skirk 30-40s on fearless, great boss fr

rugged sparrow
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fr

bright cape
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fr fr

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my friend didn't build his Layla so he had to run Citlali Kaeya on SSAOD
it was horrible gladge

bright cape
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layla alone can stop the progress bar

rugged sparrow
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she cannot if it's fearless (or above) SSAOD

bright cape
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oh

jolly junco
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layla can keep it neutral I think if qe off-cd but cannot reduce it

rugged sparrow
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if ure slow even for few secs it's just joever

jolly junco
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yes

bright cape
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yah. thats when u need other cryo

quaint fern
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yeah it's about double my clear time from fearless without optimizations, about what I expected

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I think I spend way too long on its first stun period

jolly junco
quaint fern
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c2 Kokostare

jolly junco
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I like how usage statistics has been put into a tierlist format

quaint fern
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that was like my 4th attempt?

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and after that I haven't been clearing fast enough for some reason whar

bright cape
jolly junco
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dendro is still viable on either half if you have the right team

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not great but kek

quaint fern
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I think i'm just getting bad timing on my clears rn bc it's going into its second stun phase as I skirk burst

jolly junco
jolly junco
viral mulch
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yea the cryo shills revived her

dusty cape
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wao

late pebble
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Is citlalis burst talent worth upgrading?

normal sequoia
late pebble
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How so

strange scarab
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Mid

thorn bay
sick quarry
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Is Iansan good for Chasca?

nova swift
vernal stone
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For the fountaine world quest in search of lost time what are the pre requirements to start it?

bright cape
quaint fern
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so I may have forgotten that skirk gets a +1 skill passive

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so I didn't actually crown her skill HeheSmile

bright cape
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with non-hydro non-cryo mates

quaint fern
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yeah I just realized bc I was checking enka

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and I was like, I swear I crowned it

bright cape
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btw do u have tenacity furina?

vernal stone
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What are possible spiral abyss teams for these characters?

thorn bay
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Xingqui over Barbara would be better I think

thorn bay
jolly junco
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navia, bennett, kachina (can be obtained for free), fischl/xiangling

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you should use a second geo character for particles and geo resonance

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kachina also provides scroll

thorn bay
jolly junco
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even if she didn't a second geo character would still be better

rugged sparrow
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Ning with TTDS Petra:

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** **o
/||
/|

thorn bay
vernal stone
thorn bay
thorn bay
vernal stone
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Alright thank you

rugged sparrow
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no just Kachina lol

strange scarab
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Wow

rugged sparrow
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even if you forget Kachina exists, Ningguang is better than Klee

strange scarab
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so that would involve a PHEC off fielders

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Xiangling is one of those

lyric cargo
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you want Bennett, and since he doesn't have off-field application you need another

a second pyro unit is nice since that also gives you pyro resonance for an extra +25% atk

cedar flint
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usually ppl use xiangling

dapper heron
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Should I wish? Or keep waiting for better chars? I dont really have any good support for mavuika.

cedar flint
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If you’re interested in stacking your mavuika

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cus than you will be able to run like mavuika citlali bennet flex

dapper heron
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whats flex

dapper heron
opal surge
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1h

cedar flint
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ye in one hour

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so you will lose nothing if you wait and see only gain 300 primos on top of that

cedar flint
# dapper heron whats flex

doesn’t have to be a specific character and any support that benefit the team will work since you don’t have xilonen you can just use a “flex” character

dapper heron
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on the official channels

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dapper heron
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aah

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thanks guys

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primogem ping

dapper heron
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ya i have the role

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been in server for like 2-3 years hehe

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i think

pearl marsh
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Rate the build

strange scarab
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Is that so

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That goblet looks sad

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Very awful for an off piece

lyric cargo
# pearl marsh Rate the build

substat count: 6, 4, 6, 2, 5
my usual standard is 7, 7, 5, 5, 5

flower and plume (mainly the plume) tell me I'd keep farming
the goblet is sad, but it's off-piece. that'll improve regardless of whether you keep farming for her

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if you get a good flower and plume, you could consider crafting a goblet

dapper heron
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ah i miss actually understanding what u all just said 😂

lyric cargo
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each time you level an artifact by +4, it gains another substat roll

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with 3-4 starting stats, an artifact at +20 will have 8-9 substats
but not all of them are useful to Mavuika. So I only count the useful ones

dapper heron
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Which is good for her? Mavuika

cedar flint
dapper heron
strange scarab
lyric cargo
# pearl marsh Rate the build

if you look at the lines on the artifacts on the enka card you posted, you can count the substats

your flower has 8 total:
2x crit rate, 2x crit dmg, 2x atk%, 2x flat atk

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your sands has 9 total:
3x crit dmg, 3x atk%, 2x flat atk, 1x flat def

pearl marsh
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Oh those lines, I understand it now.

lyric cargo
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  • 1 dot = min roll (70%)
  • 2 dots = low roll (80%)
  • 3 dots = high roll (90%)
  • 4 rolls = max roll (100%)
pearl marsh
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Makes sense

dapper heron
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Ya so citlaly is confirmed huh

haughty lotus
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Makes Cents

strange scarab
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Yelan skin scream1

valid anchor
haughty lotus
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Scrumptious

dapper heron
glad lance
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my keaya team did mor dmg then the chev one

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kaeya did 312k and chev one did 190k

strange scarab
#

are you looking at a single dmg number

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why is dahlia in there

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Oh well

glad lance
strange scarab
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He doesnt do that off the field plus you dont need both cryo and hydro in one team for mav

median hearth
#

can anyone tell me what's up with the aura buff my skirk have? I wann take a pic in dragonspine and the red aura is kinda bugging me

cedar flint
#

hear me out lunar charge team with varesa cloud furina and Ineffa

median hearth
cedar flint
#

maybe one of her passives

median hearth
#

well i'll be damned

thorn bay
keen willow
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Is the only cryo/hydro party stuff I guess

thorn bay
cedar flint
#

no

thorn bay
#

Oh

median hearth
#

rn i have clorinde with skirk on my team

keen willow
#

Time to read her talents

median hearth
#

figured it out, it was the 4pc artifact set :/

thorn bay
strange scarab
#

Jo mama

thorn bay
#

Deep gallery??

strange scarab
#

scream1 😋

median hearth
cedar flint
#

not really

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it’s her second best set

thorn bay
cedar flint
#

only if you plan to use her as nuke only

median hearth
thorn bay
thorn bay
median hearth
median hearth
cedar flint
#

2p mh 💀

thorn bay
cedar flint
#

we buffing those normal attacks

median hearth
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actually imma check if its MH

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nvm its glad

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still cool id say

thorn bay
median hearth
median hearth
lyric cargo
thorn bay
median hearth
#

tho the buff ain't useless imo, navia deals decent dmg through her NAs

thorn bay
thorn bay
lyric cargo
median hearth
lyric cargo
opal surge
dapper heron
#

Since it's confirmed and all

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Is citlali like made for to team with mavuika?

strange scarab
#

shes made to enable forward melt for pyro dpses

dapper heron
#

Oh citlali is cyro huh

cedar flint
#

she is broken in that role

vernal stone
#

Nahida or Emilie for meta

opal surge
#

Citlali is arguably the best support in the game, I'd strongly recommend picking her up

opal surge
vernal stone
#

Why ? Is it cuz dendro is completely non meta

hearty glen
#

CO-OP open world Natlan Local Legends 815170009

haughty lotus
strange scarab
#

ishtatos

viral mulch
#

c

forest venture
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lunar burning deals enemy's current hp based on em

viral mulch
#

lunar vape and melt gonna powercreep all anyway

vernal stone
#

Will eneffa be meta

haughty lotus
forest venture
strange scarab
rugged sparrow
haughty lotus
rugged sparrow
#

why cant he just pick cdmg like a normal person

lunar swift
#

good 4th slot for varesa overload with iansan and chevreuse?

cedar flint
violet cipher
#

I already have Citlali and I got Mavuika. Would getting and constellations on Citlali or getting her weapon be worth it, or should I save for upgrades to dps?

cedar flint
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well her cons and weapon are good but idk if it’s worth it

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how much you like her will getting cons for her and signature make you happier or you would prefer to save for a future character

primal latch
#

Is citlali banner in first or second half of 5.8?

violet cipher
#

Ok, ty.

opal surge
#

First

primal latch
#

Thankss

opal surge
#

Citlali C2 is crazy broken but if it's only for mavuika then mavuika cons are better

violet cipher
#

Mavuika or Arlechino ig to be specific.
For Chasca and Mualani, are their cons or weapons more valuable?

lusty tulip
#

is mavuikas weapon worth pulling for? i have r5 serpent spine

opal surge
#

Chasca has a generally better R1 than C1, but getting C2 is pretty huge

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For mualani i think it's C2 Firstbut im not 100% on that

cedar flint
opal surge
#

Worth is subjective

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Spine with codex is mega fine

cedar flint
#

isn’t it like 70 something crit rate

opal surge
#

U have 27% crit rate space

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That's plenty

haughty lotus
#

Hey

viral mulch
#

which tbf i also did that when i was trolling so karma ig xdd

rugged sparrow
#

had a c6 Mav earlier
they also picked skill dmg

viral mulch
#

because of this in the 2000 point stage we missed by 5 points and they malded

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i havent gotten 700 points yet i should finish it

bright cape
#

GanyUh are u guys playing the new event a lot?
I got all the rewards within 6-7 coops

rugged sparrow
#

do u even care about the resources more than u care about the mald

viral mulch
#

i just queue games for fun regardless of the points

bright cape
#

oh ok

rugged sparrow
#

which unfortunately I regret

viral mulch
#

i like this event

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me and my homies picking all nahidas in burning stage while the 4p cries in horror

bright cape
#

this was our best

rugged sparrow
#

earlier I got XL on a burning stage despite the party already locking Mav Kinich Emilie (me)

glad lance
#

how to trigger quest on this island?

rugged sparrow
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I decided to swap to Bennettt and the XL proceeded to do 17k pyronado dmg per tick

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with full event buffs too

viral mulch
#

lets do this

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
#

incheresting

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
#

i picked clor

rugged sparrow
#

Clor feels bad w/o skill cdr

quaint fern
#

Does two skirk's eat up each other's void rift like arle eats each other's skill stacks?

quaint fern
viral mulch
#

whoops

rugged sparrow
rugged sparrow
#

so peak...

viral mulch
quaint fern
#

I don't think I've ever even gotten close to 2k

neon harness
#

@strange scarab from the free 10 pull, if only it was the limited dude

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
bright cape
#

do we know how many pulls f2p can get in first half of 5.8?

#

tentative

opal surge
#

40-50 maybe

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New area+ tAblet

bright cape
#

damn. that might not be enough

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for citlali.

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if i don't get her this time, i will forever play overloaded

glad lance
opal surge
#

First half

glad lance
#

that's why i wrote +/-

opal surge
#

That's not +-

#

That's not how +- works

#

You can't just say in the first half you can get +- the amount of pulls you can get in the entire patch

bright cape
#

is summer patch region and mare jivari separate region?

#

we do have a lot to get from tablet and maxing statue

glad lance
#

i get in first half of 5.7 83 pulls and in first half on 5.6 i got like 68

rugged sparrow
#

... aren't you new to genshin and still have unexplored maps

bright cape
#

yah. or new player

glad lance
bright cape
#

i also used to have that option

rugged sparrow
bright cape
#

i left all of liyue as backup primos

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only to later find out so many of the chests don't give primos there

opal surge
viral mulch
#

wow 4m in coop event

rugged sparrow
#

I pulled c1 Emilie @viral mulch

rugged sparrow
#

why not ig

opal surge
#

What the helly

rugged sparrow
#

my pull list is like Varka and Escoff

opal surge
#

What happened to saving for varka pepela

rugged sparrow
#

and I don't see them (re)running soon

viral mulch
#

i said this in different place but

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what if they rerun esco in like 6.0 so ppl dont have time to save

opal surge
#

Did the gambling addiction tickle you

rugged sparrow
#

ehh

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I see 5.8 has unimportant chars for me

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so I can save

#

6.0 is new nation so fuckton of pulls

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worst case scenario is both Escoff and Varka in 6.0

viral mulch
#

if citlali was paired with mualani i might have went for wep refinements

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but im not interested in ineffa sig refines as of now

rugged sparrow
#

how about ur ASTRAL VULTURE'S CRIMSON PLUMAGE 🗣️ 🔥 refinements

viral mulch
#

i havent been using chasca as much and also citlali sig was the main focus not mua

rugged sparrow
#

damn

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not using Chasca as much

#

Sensi, get him

viral mulch
opal surge
#

It's over for you

#

I can't wait to get my chasca cons peepoBlushShake

rugged sparrow
#

gl

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hopefully u have better luck than my Wrio pulls gladge

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(Also my Emilie was on pity 82)

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game really hates me rn why

viral mulch
#

i was kinda tempted to go for second copy of mavu sig but i found out there isnt much use

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also another emilie sig would be so cringe

opal surge
#

My c0 chasca cost me 167 pulls I think

#

I went 83 loss 84 chasca

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Into double avpc

#

Om

rugged sparrow
wintry turtle
#

can we ask for co op help here or is there another channel for that

opal surge
#

You can ask but I'd recommended going to the main discord for it

wintry turtle
#

i dont have acces to the main discord

opal surge
#

We're lazy bums in here and are usually not logged into the game

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There's like a 90% chance of getting ghosted

wintry turtle
#

ill ask anyways, i just need help doing one round of geo hypostatis, im world level 8 and need someone to carry

#

NA server

quaint fern
#

Wl 8? You'll be looking to join someone at wl9 then

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I'm not available to help today tho

bright cape
wintry turtle
bright cape
wintry turtle
bright cape
#

👍

pearl marsh
strange scarab
neon harness
strange scarab
#

Yu s3 is so nice when paired with globsl casters

strange scarab
neon harness
#

I’m thinking about dropping some pulls at the end of the banner, i hope i get him from the daily pulls

#

Shushsicles

nova swift
strange scarab
haughty lotus
neon harness
haughty lotus
#

not as musty as you

strange scarab
#

And global skills like lappalt and gg count

neon harness
#

cri i wanna collect

#

So badly

neon harness
strange scarab
neon harness
amber tiger
#

Im thinking about getting ineffa to make either keqing or raiden better. Should i get her or save up for someone else?
(Note the ONLY characters im saving up for are 100% for: hu tao, ganyu, nahida, navia
Maybe ill get mualani)

Here is my current roster

quaint fern
#

Well looks like she's meant to buff electro charged reaction, those carries you just mention play decently with aggravate reaction,so we don't know if it's going to be better or worse to play some form of EC

#

Current EC teams use electro + hydro and then usually some anemo driver

#

Wait for her release so we can get a better idea of what teams she's good in

neon harness
#

F12 teams pls

hazy lotus
neon harness
hazy lotus
#

the buff is for nightsoul dmg though so maybe something with mualani and xiangling but xl would prob need a lot of er

strange scarab
amber tiger
amber tiger
#

I personally prefer enjoyment over meta but I do 75% enjoyment and 25% meta

strange scarab
#

surely

amber tiger
#

The only reason I pulled escoffier and skirk is because I like furina and wanted her to be a good usable character but didn’t wanna pull for nuevellite or whoever else she’s good with and because I like food IRL and escoffier makes food

strange scarab
#

Furina is literally good with majority of the dps in the game you didnt really have to pull neuv or any of those

amber tiger
#

True but escoffier is a cook and girls who make food is always someone worth the time

dusty cape
quaint fern
amber tiger
#

Why is people sending emojis? I feel like I said something weird

#

You’re making me feel awkward

neon harness
amber tiger
#

Oh no not more emojis I feel extra award now oh no my weakness is overflowing awkwardness I’m feeling weird

neon harness
feral reef
#

do we have ineffa CE content yet?

lusty tulip
#

is possible to powercreep Mavuika? as pyro dps

feral reef
#

and inevitable

amber tiger
#

Raiden got over crept by vernesa (goat girl) and Raiden was the strongest dps 3 years ago but now vernesa is strongest electro dps

Arlechino got powercrept by malvuika arlechino was strongest pyro but malvuika came and she is now stronger than arlechino

It is possible to overcreep any character it might take years though or months if unlucky

amber tiger
#

Oh I thought she was a goat for greatest of all time

amber tiger
#

Oh oops thanks for the correction

vapid egret
#

Should I run obsidian on a sub dps mavuika if I've already got an iansan running scroll?

rugged sparrow
#

yes

vapid egret
forest venture
#

insane pyroclastic surge

thorn bay
forest venture
#

rat = jane doe
crazy

lyric cargo
#

can anyone explain artifact sorting to me? kek

#

why is the +0 piece with 5.2% ER sorted behind the one with 4.7%?

strange scarab
#

for some reason crit damage was highlighted

#

artifact recommendation maybe?

elder bluff
#

better subs and better main stats

lyric cargo
#

is it ignoring that and still sorting by other stats? I see VentiCringe

dapper heron
#

hey what ype of char is mavuika? main dps? sub? also what class is she

rugged sparrow
#

wdym what "class"

dapper heron
#

well ive heard that nuvellete is a ss class dps

rugged sparrow
#

oh u mean like tier list

dapper heron
#

yaya

rugged sparrow
#

Mav's DPS surpasses all existing DPS rn, main contender being Skirk
Neuv's biggest strength is his unparalleled aoe though current endgame content hardly requires it

#

also "sub DPS" isn't a thing in Genshin, just use "on-field", "off-field", or "quickswap"

#

the term sub DPS can be misleading at times

dapper heron
#

oooh

#

so shes the best dps right now?

rugged sparrow
#

Mav is an on-field / quickswap depending on team

rugged sparrow
dapper heron
#

but if not used with her teammates, citlali or that other lady idk name, is she still as strong?

rugged sparrow
#

I mean would you ask the same question to other DPSes

dapper heron
#

currently i run mav,benny,barbera for hydro and healing, and keaya for cryo. usullay do vap or melt

dapper heron
#

ur right. currently ya i do like her

thorn bay
dapper heron
#

even with shit artifact at lvl 50, shes doing 10k dmg(not all the time :D)

dapper heron
thorn bay
rugged sparrow
#

it's already a good team

thorn bay
#

Me dumb

rugged sparrow
#

at most you replace Barb for Lynette

dapper heron
#

lennete is anemo right? how would i run a combo with that team?

rugged sparrow
#

actually just get free Kachina at some point

dapper heron
#

oh, shes geo right?

rugged sparrow
#

yes

#

helps Mav fills up Fighting Spirit + access to 4p Cinder City set

dapper heron
#

ooh. so her fighting spirit increases if a natlan character is in the team?

#

but am planning no pulling for citlali in the next banner. is it a good idea?

rugged sparrow
#

it increases faster

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and yes Cit good

dapper heron
#

am on my way to starting inazuma quest rn, but when i clicked quick start in this, it shows a new quest in natlan, just a world quest type thing or is this major?

rugged sparrow
#

it's archon quest yes

dapper heron
dapper heron
rugged sparrow
#

I mean how much do you care about the story

#

if you care then just progress at your own pace

dapper heron
#

i have played till semeru in another acc, lost that one so ya this is new alt

rugged sparrow
#

then run Mav/Citlali/Bennett/Kaeya later

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(or replace Kaeya with Lynette)

dapper heron
#

aah, thanks mate

rugged sparrow
#

probs best to run Kaeya since I can't think of a proper rot with Lynette

opal surge
#

ss class holy

rugged sparrow
#

SSS

lyric cargo
#

You'd still want your dpses to be near the top and sharing as few supports as possible

rugged sparrow
#

I mean it still kinda is

#

like unless the stygian shoves 3 anti pyro lineup, Mav is still gonna be used

lyric cargo
#

yeah

rugged sparrow
#

and the only anti-pyro unit I can think of is pyro hypo (and pyro regis omegadance )

opal surge
#

well ssaod technically

#

mav can still clear it on fearless though

dapper heron
rugged sparrow
#

which still gets cleared on Fearless with a pyro team yeah

opal surge
#

do whatever story you want

rugged sparrow
#

with Citlali u won't really need Kachina

dapper heron
#

i mean, does it impact the story in any way?

rugged sparrow
#

well it impacts your immersion

dapper heron
#

not doing in the proper order i mean

opal surge
#

yeah you will do the story in the wrong order

rugged sparrow
#

to whatever end you value it, is up to you

dapper heron
#

i meaaan. already know story up until semuru ends, just not in this acc

#

soooo. what should i doo panic

rugged sparrow
#

which part of up to you do you not get

dapper heron
#

yaa. am not good at decision making KokomiSmug

rugged sparrow
#

flip a coin then PepeShrug

opal surge
#

simply dont do any story until the implement story skip in shnez

rugged sparrow
#

so true

dapper heron
#

what🤓 . i dont understand

rugged sparrow
#

just flip a coin

#

no more indecisiveness

dapper heron
rugged sparrow
#

(you don't have to)

opal surge
#

dont worry about it I'm not here to bring value to the table

rugged sparrow
#

yeah u filthy Umamusume player

dapper heron
#

🤡

opal surge
#

what the helly

dapper heron
#

woobly wiggly

#

ah fuk it am doing natlan quest.

#

is there anything i should keep in mind?

strange scarab
viral mulch
#

home md

dapper heron
#

ah i just got kachina

haughty lotus
sick quarry
#

I just got Mavuika on my 3rd acc. Is there really any possible weapon I can put on her? F2P weapon?

elder bluff
#

tidal shadow

bright cape
#

who can use this?

#

i was gonna give it to xilonen. but she already has good one

rugged sparrow
#

Noelle can use it fine but lacking ER

#

it's an option
can also run 4p Instructor's instead

bright cape
rugged sparrow
#

can be

#

on Furina teams u might as well check with optimizer

bright cape
#

oh thanks

#

we need 2nd furina 😔

#

a hp drainer

#

should suffice

thorn bay
#

Jk

bright cape
thorn bay
#

Ig if you apply yourself dendro then pyro and then furina ig it will work?? I don’t know

#

I hab no knowledge on this game

opal surge
#

fwiw you do generally have okay MH uptime in burgeon without furina

dapper heron
#

hey i lost one of my accounts 2 years ago, still trying to get it back. it was friend listed in one of real freinds account. he just told me that my old acc is no longer in his friend list. and he searched the uid(he had a screenshot) it sayd uid doesnt exist. what do you think happend here? the hacker deleted my acc or something? CottonCry

#

i also sent a ticket to hoyoverse cs like a week ago, that was also rejected.

#

anyone?

opal surge
#

he probably just deleted ur friend from his friendslist?

dapper heron
#

indian

dapper heron
opal surge
#

whats the uid

cedar flint
#

I see cus a lot of American accs were purged recently cus of lack of age verification

#

I guess it’s not the reason than

dapper heron
opal surge
#

so u are NA

#

or?

dapper heron
opal surge
#

or is that asia i forgor

cedar flint
#

asia is 6 no?

dapper heron
cedar flint
#

I don’t remember

dapper heron
cedar flint
dapper heron
#

so basically my account is long gone? 😭

opal surge
#

no ur not in NA

#

but yes your UID is invalid

cedar flint
#

ok ye Asia is 8

opal surge
#

account got banned or whatever

dapper heron
#

so i cant sent any more tickets to cs?

cedar flint
#

deciding to get it back 2 years later is a bit too late

dapper heron
#

its prolly 1

#

and no , ive been trying for all this time

opal surge
#

you can send tickets doesnt hurt but its not very likely

cedar flint
#

It’s something you supposed to do the day you lose it

dapper heron
#

still havent got it back

dapper heron
#

each and every ticket, rejected

cedar flint
#

did they state why

opal surge
#

you just dont seem to know a lot about the account we've been through this a while ago

dapper heron
#

and idk the date a last logged in, other than that everything is correct.

cedar flint
#

welp in that case it might be a lost cause

opal surge
#

You said it was purchased on your account, thats not gifting

dapper heron
opal surge
#

yeah thats not gifting, its also against tos but thats a different topic

cedar flint
#

if you can provide proof of purchase

opal surge
#

purchase was made on your account so you should be able to provide a proof of purchas

cedar flint
#

but I still doubt it even exist any longer

opal surge
#

its very difficult for CS to believe that you cant provide that

#

hence why its probably very difficult for them to be able to restore the account to you

dapper heron
#

hes oversees. and he might return like in a 2-3 weeks, i was planning on scouring his phone and mail for proof of purchase. and then i see that my acc is deleted todday

cedar flint
#

if it’s deleted I don’t think there is a way to restore it

dapper heron
#

oh well, fucking hackers. ill send a ticket again whe my brother returns.

cedar flint
#

did you have at least 2 factor verification? it’s not that easy to hack a account

#

otherwise it will mean they had access to whatever else was linked to the verification which in that case I highly recommend changing the passwords

dapper heron
#

actually, my whole social media was hacked, google,instagram,twitter, reddit, everything. but all these platforms warned me through mail that suspicios login happend(and i retreived and changed pass for eevrything), except stuppid hoyoverse cause i didnt get mail of new device login.. i dont even know when they hacked my acc.

cedar flint
#

seems like you clicked on a link you shouldn’t have or something like that if they got you that deep

dapper heron
#

not like that. something like a data breach happend.