📌gimshim-help

[bright cape]

if it crosses over 30 crit value, that piece is golden for me

[crude dirge]

def circlet

or healing bonus

[quaint fern]

that goblet is just sad tho

[crude dirge]

two crit rolls offset

[bright cape]

yah. for an off-piece

[half anchor]

Yo should a top 1% navia be able to clear abyss cus icl I can't tell if she's been super powercrept or if I'm just a skill issue
Navia Ben xia xilo

[jolly junco]

yes, she should

[opal surge]

Easily at that

[bright cape]

is it that bad?

[opal surge]

She has a good matchup top half

[bright cape]

i don't have top 1% but i think it should be doable

[opal surge]

She would easily do it at KQMS leaving aside personal investment and actual good builds

[bright cape]

how about with 2pc 2pc?

[opal surge]

This is not a build issue

[bright cape]

the 2nd half would have to carry a bit of burden

[opal surge]

Navia is like

[jolly junco]

im pretty sure if I put my navia on 2pc 2pc and use that team she would still easily do every chamber in under a minute

[bright cape]

do u have her signature?

[jolly junco]

yes, but I could use something else and it would still be under a minute

her signature isn't even that good as far as signatures are concerned

it just has that drip value

[opal surge]

Above average in the grand scheme of things

Powercreep is a thing but not to the extend where a pretty good Fontaine unit can't clear abyss in a no terrible matchup scenario that's ridiculous

Abyss is also still a fairly low bar and is cleared with like 4* duos/trios every patch without even using the 4th teamslot

Albeit those clears have genuinely good builds and are being piloted by genuinely good players

But it still gives a sense of what is actually required to clear abyss

[bright cape]

let's see if i can clear it with melusine claymore

looks like it's gonna take time

what is normal rotation for navia, xilonen, xiangling, bennett

[opal surge]

It's like (Bennett E) > Xilonen EN2 > Navia Q > Bennett QE > Xiangling QE > Navia EN3DN2 > Xilonen EN2 > Navia EN3DN2

I think this team has the rotation time at the end to change Navia combo to 3N2D if you're good at it, or to funnel one Bennett E to XL at the end

But I might be wrong it's been a while and I don't really play XL anymore

[bright cape]

i don't think i can do it with my build

1st boss is very mobile

navia's skill being very low area on top of bennett's circle is pain

[viral mulch]

can 1st boss be pc

[opal surge]

I don't think the first boss is politically correct no

She's from natlan she's probably racist

[crude dirge]

is ifa driver better than mizuki driver

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[bright cape]

i just realized raiden cheveruse bennett xiangling is comfier than this

[crude dirge]

so i won 50/50 for no reason

[rugged sparrow]

winning 50/50 on what

[crude dirge]

mizuki

wouldve been better if tighnari con or smth

[rugged sparrow]

how's getting Mizuki winning

[crude dirge]

on her banner

she was added to standart after 5.5 i think

[bright cape]

u really feel it when u miss crit on navia

[opal surge]

Simply cap your crit true

[rugged sparrow]

this coop event is insane
2 c0r0 Skirk instalockers after seeing me with c6 Wrio

Furina Escoff and 450% cdmg buff
I still see someone not even hitting 100k

Im the Furina how

what are these 2 Skirks doing

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

yeah I seriously don't get how

my Wrio does 300k double CA

with worse buffs

cuz my Furina took healing on burst instead of more dmg when we have Escoff

[bold kernel]

What is this?

[rugged sparrow]

hidden challenge

just run through the hoops without falling off

[bold kernel]

Oh, ok. Guessing mona would be the best character to use

[bright cape]

@opal surge 12-2 feels impossible.

only got 3 stars on 1 and 3 with navia team

[opal surge]

I can try in 20 min

But I cleared current abyss with Navia on my first clear so

[real shadow]

wait wait

x.9 doesnt exist right

[opal surge]

No

[real shadow]

like the versions

[opal surge]

(probably)

[real shadow]

ohh ok im so excited for nod keai

[rugged sparrow]

let's see what this abyss has in store

actually not racist

[bright cape]

looks like once again not favorable to neuvillette

[rugged sparrow]

I skimmed over the line ups, it's not the worst thing ig for Neuv

Neuv can definitely do either half with some adjustments in the party

[jolly junco]

skirk can do both sides without party adjustment

just burst the spiritspeaker before it gets the shield 🙏

[rugged sparrow]

so real

@jolly junco bro

2 wayobs at opposite ends of the chamber

[jolly junco]

oh man that is quite cringe

[lyric cargo]

wonder if Neuv's beam can hit both

[rugged sparrow]

idk how long Neuv's beam is

if he can hit both good

[jolly junco]

at least that range looks too long to hit both

might be possible to group them a bit closer to make it possible though

if they can be moved by kazuha then it's definitely possible

either hE Q hE if c1 or use sac sword

[jolly junco]

@rugged sparrow chillest tulpa team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgEi5rs7bK4

dont think I got hit once

[rugged sparrow]

haha guns go brr

[opal surge]

Chasca is on the livestream art surely she reruns I cant wait to get chasca cons thats my goat

I do kinda wish I had anniversary top-up reset for it though

[jolly junco]

I thought you were a welkin gamer

[bright cape]

is this ur channel?

[jolly junco]

yes

I have like one popular video

[opal surge]

I may have recently done the occasional top up

[jolly junco]

[bright cape]

lava dragon? it was nice clear

r u also whale?

[jolly junco]

Yeah, with clorinde

[opal surge]

fwiw I didnt do it for verticals I just happened to like a lot of the 5.x cast

[jolly junco]

I would say moderate spender

[opal surge]

I am actually only missing kinich and varesa I guess

[jolly junco]

I usually get limited 5* characters anywhere from c0-c3 with yae being the only exception (c6 r1) but that wasn't whaling it was saving or luck and I got that over 4 banners

[opal surge]

do you have the entire 5.x cast? (except mizuki ig)

[jolly junco]

I am a proud mizuki owner I will have you know

[opal surge]

what the helly

[jolly junco]

I don't have varesa

maybe someone else im forgetting

[opal surge]

Just didnt like her?

[jolly junco]

don't particularly care for her

I don't dislike her but she's not interesting to me

[opal surge]

Fair i feel similar about her

[jolly junco]

she doesn't really open any new teams for me either

[bright cape]

looking at that tulpa gameplay, feels like chasca is even more easier to play than neuvillette

am i missing something?

[jolly junco]

you are not

chasca is incredibly easy to play

[bright cape]

oh ok

[violet cipher]

Is Arlechino better at Taulpa or Lava Dragon compared to Mavuika?

[opal surge]

Arle LDS and Mav tulpa is better than Arle Tulpa and Mav LDS, if thats what you mean

[violet cipher]

yeah

[viral mulch]

haey

[bright cape]

is lumidouce elegy a bad weapon to lose to?

i wanna try my luck on mavuika's weapon

[hard garnet]

in the abyss, i’m using a neuvilette and a skirk team. both use furina, so which team would be better to put furina on?

[bright cape]

is skirk also using MH?

[hard garnet]

she’s using galleries

[bright cape]

then anything is fine

i would use furina with neuvi

and may be yelan/xingqiu with skirk

[hard garnet]

okay

so my teams would js be neuvi/furina/kazuha/healer and skirk/xq/mualani/charlotte

[bright cape]

i dunno how mualani works in that team

but looks ok

[hard garnet]

she’s there with cinder city

so she gives 40% dmg buff

[bright cape]

so u r using her after charlotte?

[hard garnet]

yeah

[bright cape]

is mualani on ttds?

[hard garnet]

yuh

[bright cape]

that's a weird team. first time hearing

also i think u can go noblesse oblige on charlotte

[hard garnet]

thought it was weird as well at first but it works so whatever ig

[bright cape]

best of luck

[hard garnet]

thank you

[strange scarab]

neuvi doesnt need a healer

Charlotte is redundant if someone else uses ttds and no furina to make full use of her healing

You'd be better off using someone that deals damage or provide more buff

I'd rather pair skirk with furina since no escoffier already fucked up a lot of her damage and now you're getting rid of her second bis

[hard garnet]

doesn’t furina need a healer to get max fanfare buff?

[strange scarab]

Neuvi already have hp fluctuation in his kit

[hard garnet]

who else would be viable? dahlia? also, is it fine to run skirk w/o any heals?

[strange scarab]

he can get a lot of fanfare on his own

[strange scarab]

If you run her with finale sword you need a healer

[hard garnet]

i have her sig

[strange scarab]

you can go with rosaria

you need teammates that can help you generate rift voids

charlotte's cryo app is frontloaded

[hard garnet]

so skirk/furina/mualani/rosaria?

does rosaria heal? because otherwise furina’s q seems like it wouldn’t be too impactful

[strange scarab]

No, use charlotte
i thought you didnt want to remove furina from neuvi's team

[hard garnet]

lowk, it doesn’t matter to me which team she is on. I was just seeing why neuvi (if paired with furina) wouldn’t need a healer then moved onto your recommendation of having furina with skirk

i’m willing to have furina with skirk as long as both teams do good dmg

[strange scarab]

Sometimes people put him on r5 pamber which further helps fanfare generation plus he already lose and recover his own hp a lot
when he overheals himself, furina's passive heals everyone else

Last i checked furina isnt that big of an upgrade when considering the lost third draconic stack without his c1

[hard garnet]

if it helps, i have c1 neuvi and c2 furina

[strange scarab]

stick to your new team

[hard garnet]

this?

minus charlotte for rosaria

[strange scarab]

No

Sigh you do you then

[hard garnet]

sorry, i didnt know which team you were referring to

[primal latch]

Is it normal for mualani to overcrit?

Just cant get it under 100

[primal latch]

https://youtu.be/koQ4XFK4V7E?si=60Aqq0B4WQpPTbAz

I just dont get how this guy progresses the lava dragon bar so fast with amber burst and burn

Mine just doesnt do that

[vapid egret]

how's this lineup?

[cedar flint]

weird

[vapid egret]

oh

[wide dirge]

Is this Iansan ok? I switched her atk circlet to cr for fav

[cedar flint]

what is her con

But I think you lack attack for max buff

[wide dirge]

She's C3

[cedar flint]

is c3 burst lvl?

[wide dirge]

It's lv 9 for now

[cedar flint]

I think you need around 3k attack

[wide dirge]

Got it, thank you 🙏

[rugged sparrow]

3k only if talent level 13

but yeah work towards on getting your atk to that

[lyric cargo]

her atk conversion rate is 27%
lvl10 max atk bonus is 690
lvl13 max atk bonus is 810

690 / 0.27 = 2556
810 / 0.27 = 3000

[thorn bay]

I don’t know how iansan work

I do the buff and it runs out fast even if I’m moving

[lyric cargo]

what does it runs it mean?

ah

[thorn bay]

Sorry

[lyric cargo]

np

I think it really takes a lot of movement, like Natlan carries do

[thorn bay]

Ye chasca

Is skill CA ult correct tho??

[lyric cargo]

Kinich constantly circling, Mavuika burst moving through the air and then doing her donuts, etc

[lyric cargo]

should be, if she's below c2

[thorn bay]

I move around with chasca

[thorn bay]

C0

Maybe I should level it up

[lyric cargo]

it?

[thorn bay]

Iansan

[lyric cargo]

the burst talent, from 9 to 10?

[thorn bay]

I will

[fervent kelp]

(EU)need help with beating natlan weekly boss
ping me for UID

[lyric cargo]

missed opportunity to show the clear times for each of the halves, tbh

[lyric cargo]

I can help, if still required

[fervent kelp]

sorry im done already

[lyric cargo]

ah. (maybe edit the message above)

[sage sail]

welp. ez 36 star over here too

hmm

back to optimizer i go

ig it's basically a perfect itto piece but i don't use him

[viral mulch]

chamber 3 is like minor inconvenience thats just enough to annoy you as an abyss chamber @rugged sparrow

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[viral mulch]

get ticked once by electro wayob ball into reset
step on the fire floor into reset

[rugged sparrow]

fucking wayobs

[viral mulch]

(i was doing no dmg solo)

[cedar flint]

I’m ready for nod krai to release a even worse enemy than the wayob

after they made abyss lectors 2.0

[sage sail]

how are people so stupid in the event. i picked furina and chose the healing buff bc no healer and another person chose it as well for no reason

[lyric cargo]

imitation I assume? 😔

can the event be done with premades? if so, maybe just look for 3 other people here and avoid random matchmaking for this

[elder bluff]

Why premade when you can enjoy coop with players who cant read

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

shielder less yoimiya 🎦

[crude dirge]

can i use lumidoush on sub dps kachina

[thorn bay]

Y not?

[vapid egret]

Chain Breaker or Thundering Pulse for Chasca? Doesn't feel there's a lot of options...

Well not a lot of options I own

[thorn bay]

Thunder i think

[vapid egret]

How does Mavuika fare as a sub dps in a Chasca team?

I don't own Citlali or Furina unfortunately

I read that flower wreathed feathers is a good 4 star weapon but how is it compared to thundering pulse?

[thorn bay]

Works gud

[thorn bay]

Do you have it??

[vapid egret]

Yup

[vapid egret]

So who else could I use as teammates? For the other two slots

[thorn bay]

Iansan and bennet??

[vapid egret]

Fair enough... Wasn't expecting to run overload

[thorn bay]

Or no bennet but a gud hydro

[vapid egret]

I see..

[strange scarab]

[thorn bay]

2 pyro is 75% 3rd bullet be non anemo so I don’t know

[opal surge]

its worse than thundering pulse

[strange scarab]

chasca relies on vape/melt

[thorn bay]

You should probably ask sensi or hidden

Sensi is already here so bye

[strange scarab]

damn sensi got a fan

[vapid egret]

Jesus christ every time I come to this discord for tips I get the jumpscare

[strange scarab]

Imagine

[opal surge]

chainbreaker is worse than it is on here, its supposed to get 4 stacks but its bugged

[vapid egret]

I see aight thanks

[thorn bay]

Cd > ca bonus???

Ok

[vapid egret]

Makes sense, at one point I was considering hamayumi

For Mavuika, would Serpent Spine outdo Earth Shaker? Or should I just take my Navia's verdict?

[strange scarab]

Read the list he sent

[thorn bay]

Seems like that’s the worst from this list(Hamayumi)

[strange scarab]

amos passive dont work on her bullets

[thorn bay]

Serpent spine is one of her best

[strange scarab]

Earth shaker doesnt buff her

[thorn bay]

But you’re making her sub?

[opal surge]

verdict is ~3% better than 5 stack serpent spine and earth shaker is bad

[strange scarab]

it only works on her off field skill dmg

[vapid egret]

I feel like after saying that the #1 Navia fan is gonna jump me

[elder bluff]

@cedar flint

[vapid egret]

Oh no

[elder bluff]

pls jump

[thorn bay]

@digital notch

[lyric cargo]

have you checked the doc?

[vapid egret]

I just got sent it

[lyric cargo]

ah

it's a good one to bookmark
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[vapid egret]

I guess she's not a sub.... always thought she was a closet sub tho

[vapid egret]

Well... Boutta make Navia cry ig

[cedar flint]

what thee requires thine assistance?

[thorn bay]

. @cedar flint

[vapid egret]

Oh... No..

Btw how much do I lose with an atkgoblet on Mavu instead of pyro dmg?

[thorn bay]

Military guy get this guy

[opal surge]

oh it updated

my pyro goats

[cedar flint]

so nothing of importance

[vapid egret]

I was like "Hey wait a minute Yoimiya?"

I swear someone told me Yoimiya is dog

[opal surge]

She is dog

[thorn bay]

She a car

[cedar flint]

doesn’t mean she can’t dog all over abyss tho

[vapid egret]

Fair

[sick quarry]

Yoimiya cat not dog

[thorn bay]

She hits 200k per NA in some 🐳 builds

[vapid egret]

I mean I don't have Furina i can't try that

[thorn bay]

Citlali yelan bennet apparently? I don’t know

[vapid egret]

Do i look like I have Citlali

[thorn bay]

Just saying??

[vapid egret]

My broke ass ran around and burned every primgoem in my first 4 world areas on fucking Nilou

And xiao. And kazuha

[cedar flint]

https://tenor.com/view/yoimiya-genshin-impact-gif-3940890010843710296

[thorn bay]

She just showing mercy

[lyric cargo]

trying to avoid scorching mushrooms, I see

[vapid egret]

Oh no I meant I was using the primos to get an e2 kazuha, only for him to fall off like 7 patches later

[cedar flint]

he is still good

[opal surge]

getting c2 kazuha early on is crazy

[lyric cargo]

idk which game that's from, but I assume by e2 you mean c2

[vapid egret]

Compared to other supports...

[opal surge]

me when i pull 2 5stars to give 200 em

[vapid egret]

Plus all the dpses that I like that came out are the ones that are NOT kazuha compatible

[lyric cargo]

don't think old char constellations are worth it
very few of them were worth it by the standards of the time

[forest venture]

fries are crispy

[cedar flint]

well cons ye

the character itself is fine at c0

[vapid egret]

Fair, but c2 kazuha basically has built in sac sword

[opal surge]

thats c1 and you want to avoid using it where you can

extending rotation time for another skill on kazuha is basically never worth it unless you either need the grouping or the energy

[forest venture]

+0.9 seconds rotation length

[cedar flint]

but imagine if it was c2 citlali instead 😔

[lyric cargo]

his buffs are comparable to Xilonen, but with less uptime / quality of life

his upside is grouping, but they're making it matter less and less
(AoE hasn't been important in abyss for a while, and now SO is all single target it seems)

[vapid egret]

Yeah idk I had that awakening in like 4.7 where I was like "ah shit I'm not doing damage anymore"

[vapid egret]

Venti is in the grave

[forest venture]

add extremely specific 6th piece that reduces grouping RES or reduce charge shot interval or reduce base standard ICD or increase particle count

[vapid egret]

6th piece?

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gold-ship-gif-20842560

[lyric cargo]

he's in theater

[gilded crater]

hello

i need some help in my game

i need help to fight maguu kenki to ascend my kazuha

[pearl marsh]

Evaluate the build

[rugged sparrow]

that's the saddest off-set goblet I've ever seen

[dense birch]

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[pearl marsh]

😭 I literally dont have anything better, I'm gonna have to elixir one

[vapid egret]

Don't worry, mine is atk

[sick quarry]

Which server are you in?

[alpine vessel]

suggest team for ch3 f12 !

[patent kite]

If I use mods how likely is it for me to get banned ? Is it ok as long as I don’t post it online? Ive found some rlly cute ones but I’m scared 🥲🥲

[opal surge]

I think not asking in an offical genshin server is an intelligent first step

[strange scarab]

very likely since you bring that up in an official server

[patent kite]

Ok thank you both!

[lyric cargo]

surely a citlali upgrade, since it's on-set and 8 useful rolls? 😅
(who am I kidding, a generalist Cit build almost always wants more ER)

[opal surge]

My citlali is on low ER with sac for her generalist build

[true storm]

can I get some help making a team, I bene trying for hours with the past 2 abyss cycles its so hard to 36 star

[lyric cargo]

adaptation to SO, or already before?

(I usually have someone to pass ttds to, even in a general scenario)

[lyric cargo]

no Citlali, it seems?
she or Ororon can make the Spiritspeaker much easier by making it stop moving

[opal surge]

Ive always had been on sac, I value the comfort quite highly

[true storm]

nop, i just came back from a months break dont got any good natlan chars

the power creep is so noticeable

[lyric cargo]

you got Mika?

[opal surge]

whats the issue?

as in which chamber/side is having trouble?

[true storm]

i just been stuck at 33 stars for the past 2 abyss cycles I improved my teams so much but still nah

[true storm]

the first chamber

2nd half I cant 1 cycle

every vids I seen usually use overload but I dont got a chevreuse

[lyric cargo]

pay attention to its bar, if your off-field cryo app ends you need to refresh it or it builds up

[true storm]

yeah but not built and low cons

[lyric cargo]

if the bar gets too full, its gains resistance

[true storm]

the 1st half i got no issues

its the one that turns into cryoclones or smthn

[lyric cargo]

oh, I mentally swapped the halves. nvm

could try if Yelan lets you 1-cycle

[opal surge]

wait she goes into clones again?

[lyric cargo]

you'd have less pyro, so slower to finish off the clones

[true storm]

I been using yelan all the time just tried experimenting with mono pyro, still doesnt work

[lyric cargo]

ah

[opal surge]

can you put your 8 characters on enka

and post that here

I see no good reason why Arle should struggle here

[true storm]

aight gimme a min

[lyric cargo]

oh, also are you playing on mobile or PC / controller?

(personally I do much worse when I play on mobile)

[true storm]

yeah I play on an Ipad, but I dont got issues since before this I always 36 star the abyss

its these new enemies just seem to make my old. chhars. outdated

[opal surge]

Youre playing Arle and skirk

[lyric cargo]

the one thing here is Spiritspeaker, I guess
are there grouping strats for its clones, or something like that?

I usually have Citlali for her

[true storm]

enka.network/u/832054778/

[thorn bay]

Freeze them?? “ oh no , I’m just being mean” stuck to my head

[lyric cargo]

Skirk: Hmm, no better off-piece circlet? I count 3 substats, ER is a dead stat on her

Mona: Wants more ER, I think.
Probably ttds or fav instead of widsith

[true storm]

lemme check, i swapped around artifacts cuz i overed her CR

the 4yrs I been playing I dont got good circlets lol

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably strongbox Arle's set, since that's possible now

to replace gladiator

[lyric cargo]

nothing with a high amount of rolls in crit + atk%?

[quaint fern]

no sapwood?

[true storm]

yeah nothing I just got back and got her by the end of the banner so I didnt rlly farm much for her

can we focus on the 2nd half team tho, I dont have any issue with the skirk team it can clear leaving around 2mins for the 2nd half

[lyric cargo]

Bennett would be the obvious first target

his buff scales with base atk, so sac sword being a low baseAtk weapon is not ideal

artifacts are another point, but the buff doesn't scale with them. He just wants ER from them

[true storm]

yeah, i dont have any 5star swords and I did sac sword cuz I rlly needed er

aigh ill see what i can do with the artis

[lyric cargo]

here's mine: 565 base atk sapwood and then as much ER as possible

[lyric cargo]

^

[true storm]

sapwood is the craftavle sword right?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[true storm]

aight thanks, besides that is the comp good enuf to clear tho

[lyric cargo]

if you ever get it from standard banner or weapon banner loss, you can give him Skyward Blade instead
608 baseAtk, 55.1% ER

[true storm]

cuz i been rlly looking around I dont see anyone using vape arle to clear abyss

[opal surge]

The comp is fine, I can show you a demonstration of c0 arle

[true storm]

that would be great thanks

[opal surge]

uploading real quick

https://youtu.be/aKjf7VhGejQ @true storm you dont need to rush your second rotation like I did, I just skipped some steps because I knew she was dead already

You should easily have enough time to do two arle rotations when the spiritseeker is downed

if not more

[true storm]

Aight ima get to work on my benny, thanks for all the help y'all

[bright cape]

for arle overload with bennet cheveruse, is fischl better than raiden?

[quaint fern]

should be, raiden off field is kinda

[opal surge]

yes

[jolly junco]

hold off on completing the event since I haven't started it yet and will wait until all point thresholds are released, I don't wanna coop with randoms who have no idea what they're doing @lyric cargo

[opal surge]

Sure om

I have done one run which went quite poorly and left it at that

[jolly junco]

yeah im hearing horror stories

[lyric cargo]

I do the same (waiting until all of it unlocks) ^^

I already have a coop-group, so maybe y'all can find more people from here? If not, I could help fill.

[jolly junco]

ah should be able to find 2 more dw

[bright cape]

i am trying to do wayob with raiden, cheveruse, xiangling, bennett

how do i approach this?

12-2-1. there is one wayob in the middle of fight

do i just do bennett, xiangling and raiden?

[viral mulch]

hey i got archon of speed

[jolly junco]

oh nice

I rarely do speedruns with my best options, just whatever I feel like playing

[viral mulch]

yea i just felt like it this time since i just got mavu
i dont plan on like starting to sweat speedruns consistently as well

[jolly junco]

fair enough

[lyric cargo]

Veresa?

[viral mulch]

mavuika ofc

got top half continuous of now last abyss in 12s

[hard garnet]

my current arlecchino team is arle/xq/kaz/bennett is this fine if I don’t got like citlali xilonen, or yelan?

[jolly junco]

xingqiu is not very good with arlecchino because of his long cooldowns

post a picture of who you have

[hard garnet]

i’m not able to get on right now mb

[jolly junco]

you can use the battle chronicle of hoyolab

[hard garnet]

i have all the 4s but the hydro 5s i either dont have or are with another team besides mona

[jolly junco]

I would also like to see the non-hydro 5*s

if you have zhongli replace xingqiu with him

[hard garnet]

oke will do when i get on

[lyric cargo]

link to hoyolab battle chronicle:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html

I'd say this is even better than ingame, since it shows constellations

(just don't use the share button, take screenshots. the share button results in a 2-column view that's hard to read.)

[valid anchor]

it shows constellations, artifact roll, substats preference and so on. Quite better even more than third-party tools.

[lyric cargo]

those aren't in the character pool view, you wouldn't see them on the screenshot

for artifact roll, substats and so on, I'd recommend enka. it displays that info more concisely

akasha is also good at it

upside to hoyo's version of that is no need to set chars to profile and wait for it to update

afaik

[viral mulch]

@rugged sparrow
f12 45s

mavuika letting me play the game

[rugged sparrow]

not one shotting fat fuck

it's Mavuiover

how much HP does that thing have anyway nowadays

6m?

[viral mulch]

5.6m this time

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

id have to fuck my cr then use bennett to oneshot which will be both mald and not actually faster

[rugged sparrow]

dhc got 34s with Bennett hmmge

he one shots the baby Yumka with Bennett Q

[viral mulch]

nah no shot lol

[rugged sparrow]

just see the vid

[viral mulch]

nvm he actually did

[rugged sparrow]

idk what he fed his Bennett

[viral mulch]

on second thought it makes sense cus chamber 1 and 2 doesnt use him so no need for er at all

[rugged sparrow]

true

the shadow player

[viral mulch]

also theres the obvious gap of r5 citlali and xilo sig so i doubt i can replicate that

[rugged sparrow]

fair

[viral mulch]

not like im rly hardcore speedrunner either
that being said if i just play better i can shrink like 3s from there even with same strat

[rugged sparrow]

idk if u can replicate 2nd chamber

he one taps wayob with 1 Mav CA

[viral mulch]

i think i can

aside from itll take me longer to kill ruin grader cus my ayaka isnt as strong

second half im pretty positive i can do that

[rugged sparrow]

Ayaka starving

[viral mulch]

he probably uses reverie ayaka which i dont have that set like at all

[viral mulch]

i also oneshot wayob its just i kept holding donut instead of doing final hit

skill issue on my end rip

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

wait truege

[viral mulch]

i didnt practice enough for micromanaging mavu movement

[lyric cargo]

time for the next round of power creep: pull c2 r1 or lose your oneshots

then again, it's natchez. maybe that's c6 r5 already

[hazy lotus]

if u watched that video and ever believed for a second that it was was anything less than c6r1 that’s on you man

[alpine vessel]

took me so long to pass that overseer with chasca

[lyric cargo]

I had not, when I made the first comment 😄

[kind raptor]

i need a team for tulpa, and if arlecchino is dps i can clear both sides, while mavuika cant clear either

[quaint fern]

Is that a high con ayaka? She's probably a loss in DPS compared to pretty much anyone else

Put pmc or ororon or smth, you don't have an external source of nightsoul to give Mav fighting spirit

[kind raptor]

c0

[kind raptor]

the baby tulpa tho

[quaint fern]

Yeah do this

@rugged sparrow do you have a link to how to kill the minis with Mav?

CDN1 is what you should be doing right?

[kind raptor]

ion have ororon and pmc built

[quaint fern]

All they need is scroll really

Really any Nathan support will work

I'm just assuming you'll have ororon/pmc

[kind raptor]

can i use my def goblet?

[kind raptor]

lemme check

i pulled mavuika for mualani bruh

mualani is c2r1

[quaint fern]

I would probably go pmc/ororon

[hazy lotus]

mualani can clear lava dragon on dire i hear

i dunno what team though

[quaint fern]

pmc will actually be able to buff Mav with scroll but ororon should give more FS

[hazy lotus]

maybe u can work something out for fearless

[kind raptor]

oh?

[quaint fern]

Yeah she works bc your hydro app is super slow

But I think it's less work to just build one char for tulpa

Bc you're probably using xiangling for that clear

So then you'll have to find something else for tulpa

[kind raptor]

well its mavuika

mavuika is mualanis support

i use mualani - mavuika - nahida - yaoyao

[quaint fern]

I guess you can give that a shot, then that'll free up Bennett arle XL for tulpa

Also I just realized that CDN1 won't work without citlali for tulpa anyways, you'd have to keep doing donuts to hit the mini tulpas

Unless you want to try kaeya on fav or smth

Just keep in mind that you will have to redo your LDS clear if you reset it and end up being unable to clear with mualani

And if you're good enough at dodging then you can drop yao^2 for amber just to apply a bunch of pyro to progress it's stun gauge

[sleek tapir]

670021370 need hello with natlan exploration! Any help is appreciated! Only need one btw!

[kind raptor]

DONE

[quaint fern]

Nice!

[kind raptor]

i used double ayaka q and double xiangling q, ayaka and arle killed the minitulpas

[quaint fern]

I still think ayaka is a sneak there at c0

[kind raptor]

who would you have used?

[quaint fern]

Kayea would probably be better for killing tulpas

[kind raptor]

favonius ayaka saved my ass

[quaint fern]

And he would probably have less field time(?) + give you fav

[kind raptor]

i have him at lvl 30 lol

[fiery wigeon]

Cryo is requires for floor 1 bro are we cereal

[kind raptor]

someone mentioned varesa, arle and mavuika can deal with it

[quaint fern]

For fearless Nahida handles them fine for hyperbloom

[kind raptor]

im not gonna traumatize myself for some fucking weapon skins

[quaint fern]

Yeah Varessa for LDS would be fine, I wouldn't play it on tulpa tho

[fiery wigeon]

Oh I mean for abyss

[quaint fern]

You are on fearless

[kind raptor]

nono for abyss

[quaint fern]

110 is dire

[kind raptor]

nvm lol im dumb

[quaint fern]

OH abyss

[fiery wigeon]

12-1 has that cryo boss and my na account has 0 cryo characters built

[kind raptor]

mualani came back to save my fatass once again

[quaint fern]

Layla mogs the abyss version of SSAO

[kind raptor]

might get her c3

🔜 ™️

[quaint fern]

This thing was in SO and last abyss, it's really on you for not having at least one cryo built by now

[kind raptor]

i should really get xilonen

[quaint fern]

Eeeh I feel like she hasn't been as meta as of late

I would suggest citlali because she'll work in either Mav or Arle teams

[kind raptor]

nuh uh!!!

[fiery wigeon]

I mean that's on na, its on moyo for making a boss so element dependant (1)

See on eu this gonna be easy

Crazy work

[quaint fern]

This isn't a new thing really

[kind raptor]

i dont like how they treated her in the story and another issue which i wont arise

[fiery wigeon]

See idm if there's like a slower element and doing x boss mechanic (you know multiple elements have a way to defeat entity) but this is just 1

Eugh

[quaint fern]

LDS also just NEEDS pyro

Imo that's even worse than SSAO, you literally get punished for using cryo/hydro

[fiery wigeon]

What's lds and ssao

[kind raptor]

imo the absolute worst is the natlan pyro dragon

[quaint fern]

Sure some bosses have a single element immunity, but they've never gone as far as to punish usage of an element, only strongly incentivize

[fiery wigeon]

Uh.... this boss will 1 shot tou without cryo..

Idk if zhongli can survive it but imma try on eu in a minute

[quaint fern]

LDS is the lava dragon statue,
And SSAO is the secret source overseer device (cryo boss we're talking about right now)

Papilla also nukes you if you can't break the shield

So does the stygian version of tulpa

[fiery wigeon]

I do have cryo characters on there built but only as support as most of thr current cryo dps imo are just too slow , I got skirk but shes not built yet I'm hoping shes faster

[quaint fern]

For the abyss version all you need is layla

[fiery wigeon]

Like I got ayaka and ganyu years ago and built thrm for freeze and they do not clear, I rebuilt gangu for melt and she slaps now but the lack of interruption resistance makes her use flimsy

[quaint fern]

All I'm going to say is that hyperfridge can clear 1st half

https://youtu.be/cZOa0vw1d70?si=6xp3S3mEJbncyjqq

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah imma try it when I get on eu I got my layla built to the wall for hu tao and maybe she can get me through it

[kind raptor]

this abyss was so easy

[quaint fern]

Also that's just part of the ganyu experience 🤣

We ganyu mains have to hate ourselves or smth I swear

[fiery wigeon]

Yeah ibgot her doing about 80k on hit then 120k on the aoe blast, no idea if these are good numbers but she clears when she doesnt get flung about like a frisbee

[kind raptor]

my results

[fiery wigeon]

Damn nice clear, when I build skirk I'm more limited on team options so I got her, Furina, then maybe layla and rosaria

Idk if i should add Mike as people said he is meant for physical

Mika*

[kind raptor]

im building charlotte and will pull for coffie, but i had a guaranteed for skirk the previous banner

[kind raptor]

no

because ||ugly design||

[kind raptor]

mualani is just great

[quaint fern]

idk if mine updated yet

i forgot how cringe the 12-1-2 boss is

I might try the xilonen variant later

[bright cape]

how does kokomi help there?

[cedar flint]

heal furina self inflicted dmg

[bright cape]

i dunno how layla alone works. for me, i need one more.

[quaint fern]

it's team dependent

[bright cape]

layla can keep it constant

charlotte brings it to zero

[quaint fern]

her burst shoots out hits based on stacks based on skill usage iirc, let me check

[bright cape]

so skill first then burst?

[thorn bay]

Layla f2p abyss meta

[quaint fern]

oh yeah stacks accumulate after using skill

her burst allows some of the stacks to get recycled and reused

[fiery wigeon]

Wait how do you get it like this? Like the over view of your abyss floors?

[thorn bay]

Skill ult skill gets stars

[bright cape]

oh i see. so others have to also use skill?

[thorn bay]

Others do skill layla skill gets stars

[bright cape]

i see

sadly i do layla very late into the rotation

[quaint fern]

skill

Once the Curtain of Slumber has accumulated 4 Night Stars and there are opponents nearby, these Night Stars will transform into homing Shooting Stars that will be fired off in sequence, dealing Cryo DMG to any opponents hit.
If the Curtain of Slumber's duration ends or it is destroyed, the Night Stars will disappear. If they are already being fired off as Shooting Stars, these Shooting Stars will last until this wave of shots ends.

burst

When a Starlight Slug hits, it will generate 1 Night Star for nearby Curtains of Slumber. Each Curtain of Slumber can gain 1 Night Star this way every 0.5s. 

[bright cape]

furina eq, layla qe, charlotte eq, skirk stuff

[thorn bay]

Chongus do skill layla get cryo infusion

Furina do skill ult layla get fanfare buff

[quaint fern]

probably layla skill then burst

[thorn bay]

Escoffier do ult skill layla opponents gets 55% cryo res ded

[bright cape]

ok

[quaint fern]

oh I totally missed this, it's in your hoyolab in battle chronicle

[thorn bay]

Then noblesse chongus ult skill layla get all buffs

[bright cape]

tenacity layla eq, skirk get all buffs

[fiery wigeon]

Ah I just 36 started but when i click on 12-3 it shows floor 10-3 maybe i need time for it to update

[thorn bay]

Then we eat cryo potion gilded hall (cuz we hab escoffier)

[quaint fern]

yeah it normally takes a while

[fiery wigeon]

Sh yeah my bad

[thorn bay]

And layla do 12k per NA

[quaint fern]

i'd give it an hour, it's very slow

[thorn bay]

Cuz that’s just me

[bright cape]

mine's level 70. i dunno if she even do anything

[thorn bay]

I think you guys would do better

[quaint fern]

I was thinking that I should level my skirk NA for the lastest event

[thorn bay]

I want esco c1 haran r5 layla c6 furina c2

Idc about esco personal dmg

[bright cape]

i get good teammates 50% of the time

u can chat with them

[quaint fern]

wait escoffier c2 makes her a mini shenhe

[fiery wigeon]

Oh God that new one with the dire difficulty, I manged to do the rock pile with chevvy taho 8.5Litre v12, thr tupla with hyperbloom, I tried the cryo boss with ganyu and uh yeah not happening lol I get to about a third of his hp thrn he does that spinny phase again where he res damage and time runs out

[thorn bay]

I thought it buffs her dmg not team dmg

[quaint fern]

it's weird bc we had a neuvi me (on skirk) and then furina + escoffier, and we struggled to clear the final boss in time

are you even intended to be able to clear most of the time without whale on dire?

[quaint fern]

after using escoffier skill: During this time, Escoffier will gain 5 Cold Dish stacks. When nearby active characters apart from Escoffier deal Cryo DMG with a Normal, Charged, or Plunging Attack, or an Elemental Skill or Elemental Burst, they will expend 1 Cold Dish stack to increase their DMG dealt by 240% of Escoffier's ATK.

this is just five hits total I think

so not everyone gets stacks I think

[thorn bay]

Oh it’s except esco

[quaint fern]

probably functions in the same way that shenhe does tho, it gets added on as flat damage and then multiplied by everything else

so [(atk/hp * mv) + flat] * multipliers

[thorn bay]

Then I want c2 esco c2 furina c6 layla r5 haran

[thorn bay]

Hp???

[quaint fern]

for hp scalers

should have also included /def ig

[thorn bay]

There no cryo def

[quaint fern]

I am aware

I dont even think any cryo has hp scaling for non-healing/shield stuff

[thorn bay]

Layla

[quaint fern]

oh is her dmg hp scaling?

[thorn bay]

Layla ult scale on atk/hp

And skill

[quaint fern]

oh cool

didn't know that

[fiery wigeon]

Imo layla at c6 cpuld be a 5 star, 3 seconds of field time, very high cryo application and sub dps without xiangling er problem, oowee

[thorn bay]

HoYoLAB won’t show me all the things

[quaint fern]

I can see from the wiki

[quaint fern]

welcome to the world of c6 4* vs c0 5* supports

[thorn bay]

Skill hab decently big multiplier

[fiery wigeon]

Tbh you get enough damage and protection from just hp you'll be fine, just dont get down about atk sub stats I guess

[fiery wigeon]

Honestly because of thr way I am in fps games I like supports having minimal field time which is why I have sucrose built but I moved all of kazuhas pieces to her because it fits my play style more

[quaint fern]

valid, sucrose can even be better than kazuha in certain teams

[violet cipher]

For Mavuika, what do I pick first: level 10 burst or level 8 talent?

[ripe plover]

I need help in co op to farm a boss but I dont think this is the channel for that where is the co op channel?

[viral mulch]

this one is but no one rly cares enough to help coop here

go to different server tbh

[ripe plover]

kep any reccomendations on which one to ask in?

[quaint fern]

discord.gg/genshinimpact

but if you're on NA I can just help rn

[quaint fern]

well we at least used to have a coop channel so this stuff wouldn't get buried....

even though there wasn't much activity, it was nice that it was there

[ripe plover]

no im on the american server

[quaint fern]

what's your uid?

[ripe plover]

636003218

[quaint fern]

give me a bit to login

I was going to do some abyss runs anyways

[ripe plover]

YIPPEEE

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[fiery wigeon]

Ah yeah finally got it

This what I used to clear mines

[elder bluff]

Ganyu in 2025

[cedar flint]

cus she is the goat as a dps or support

[bright cape]

@quaint fern https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DI3iLMdd-0

[quaint fern]

Oh no wonder they hit 310k blooms

It's a crit fish build

62/256

[bright cape]

yah. i was really surprised

how many tries does it take to crit that many times?

[quaint fern]

Ig that's polar star? Still surprised it does so much damage

I get like 210k blooms with my build?

~240 with my Nahida team(?)

[bright cape]

i see

[quaint fern]

You couldn't pay me to crit fish ganyu

[bright cape]

ganyu gameplay feels tough

u r zoomed in most of the time

[cedar flint]

well it is still 82 crit rate on the bloom

[bright cape]

does she get extra crit rate?

[cedar flint]

ye

[quaint fern]

I run 75 on her 😭

-> 95

[cedar flint]

i don’t say 60 is good I just say it’s not as bad as it looks

[bright cape]

this is his normal build.

[cedar flint]

I’m not proud of my own build either ngl

[bright cape]

he is fishing

[quaint fern]

That seems about right

[cedar flint]

that circlet yikes

[quaint fern]

I really need to get my ganyu a new weapon at some point

[cedar flint]

I want to get chasca bow for her but I doubt I can get it next patch if she rerun

[quaint fern]

Not terrible if they're on atk sands

[bright cape]

i wish he showed his xiangling artifacts

[quaint fern]

She'll probably get smth better than chasca bow I think

[bright cape]

that atk felt too high for catch build

[cedar flint]

my ganyu build is cooked as well

[quaint fern]

I was tempted to pull but decided against it

I was going to say wtf 287

[bright cape]

holy cr/cdmg

[quaint fern]

But that checks out for aqua

[cedar flint]

wish it was better

[bright cape]

i have amos bow from standard. i wish they gave us ganyu for free

[quaint fern]

Em is pretty low tho

[cedar flint]

it’s with nahida

[quaint fern]

I guess you'd be using ins

Oh yeah Nahida works

[cedar flint]

I play burnmelt

[bright cape]

when did u c6?

[cedar flint]

lantern rite chronicle

been saving since I got nilou during her summer event up until the chronicle

and got 5 copies with 400 pulls or so

I had over 100 pulls left

[bright cape]

u guys r dedicated 🫡

i could never

can u share ur navia build?

[cedar flint]

I plan to start saving from summer event this patch up until varesa rerun next

[cedar flint]

she is sadly ass but sure

[bright cape]

nah this is miles better than mine

are u still farming for nighttime?

[cedar flint]

I don’t even got 4 piece

[thorn bay]

[cedar flint]

not rn

[thorn bay]

If that’s cooked what are my characters

[cedar flint]

but I will start crafting it in the future

[bright cape]

yah. all mine are burnt

overcooked

[cedar flint]

I’m focusing on my varesa rn

[thorn bay]

Mine is ashes

[cedar flint]

actually that’s a lie I been farming the codex set for mavuika

[thorn bay]

Heck mine is just CO2

[cedar flint]

the past 2 days

[bright cape]

my mavuika build was pretty good

[thorn bay]

Me see

[bright cape]

lemme swap one main piece

[bright cape]

i was thinking of pulling her sig. but she already feels so powerful

[thorn bay]

How much cv??

Best I got

[thorn bay]

Nice

[bright cape]

i have a better circlet if she ends up with a signature

[bright cape]

urs is not bad

we all just need to be able to clear the content

[thorn bay]

She’s not that gud on abyss

[bright cape]

yah. she feels like she's made for onslaught

[thorn bay]

I really need a better circlet and better rolls on sands and goblet

[bright cape]

why are her talents so low?

[thorn bay]

This old foto

[bright cape]

oh ok

[thorn bay]

5/10/7 for now

[bright cape]

they are guaranteed upgrades. i usually do 1-10-10 as soon as i get baseline artifacts

[cedar flint]

For a sec i thought you were saying mavuika wasn’t good for abyss but I realized you meant chasca

[bright cape]

she's good on bosses. but her aoe is weird

they could have done something else other than share bullets

[thorn bay]

C2

[bright cape]

i just realized ur cdmg will be so high with her signature

[thorn bay]

C2 somewhat fixes the problem

[bright cape]

hers give 88 cdmg right?

[thorn bay]

I want 230cv atleast

[thorn bay]

66.2

[bright cape]

oh ok

[bright cape]

i only have one character with that much cv

[thorn bay]

Not sure there is any bow with 88cd

[bright cape]

i still think his build is ass

[bright cape]

simulacra

[thorn bay]

What’s that

[bright cape]

yelan's bow

[thorn bay]

=|

[cedar flint]

aqua

but it has low base attack

[thorn bay]

Chasca cons all are gud

[bright cape]

this is my only only >230

sadly with current content, he feels so ass to play.

may be once i get citlali and escoffier. it will be fun again

[thorn bay]

I have freeze prem

[thorn bay]

Ye I have dose 2

[bright cape]

nice

[quaint fern]

I used that for my SO clear

[bright cape]

how come this build is 12%

[quaint fern]

Leaderboard

[thorn bay]

I was like y 90cr in blizzard (I didn’t see 2pc)

[cedar flint]

I think it’s cus 2p2p

[thorn bay]

Ye

[cedar flint]

4 piece sets usually have higher rating

[quaint fern]

It just doesn't match the team I was using

[bright cape]

i think people underestimate 2pc 2pc.
zy0x cleared dire tulpa with 2pc 2pc

arlecchino

[cedar flint]

didn’t say it’s horrible

[quaint fern]

.

[cedar flint]

it’s just worth less

[thorn bay]

Name “melt ayaka”
Category freeze ayaka team boss 130%er

[bright cape]

did u shuffle some characters around?

[quaint fern]

Ik he was on 2 Vermillion (didn't waste 3 years in that domain) + glad(?) but was he on same one sands?

[bright cape]

i don't remember. i only remember it was atk + atk

[quaint fern]

Yeah I did manage to get faster times

[thorn bay]

Almost all 2pc

[bright cape]

that looks like just fishing for cv

top set is just 2pc glad

even then couldn't reach 300

[quaint fern]

This one https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774907767248519178/1393655921103863928/image.png?ex=68793cb8&is=6877eb38&hm=f1e88f1ddd4d63be7950ead20d9d8364b1367284f3b66b3e149d8d10cb8734bf&

This one is slower

[bright cape]

damn. did u give dire ssaod a try?

[quaint fern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774907767248519178/1395131558960169021/Screenshot_2025-07-13_182046.png?ex=68795503&is=68780383&hm=b9a3178f8ea9a7c455f4c9cad5e98f75c1443ba0a0dea5e144a24418deddd628&

[quaint fern]

Not yet, I should

[bright cape]

i think u definitely can

[quaint fern]

I have no idea what artifacts I was moving around bc I had to reset SSAO

[thorn bay]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TOfwJHMk490?si=YGHh-us6dn4MWBGP

[quaint fern]

So that's why this SSAO clear is slower

[quaint fern]

Wtf 900k CA?

I guess that's engineering plastics for you

[bright cape]

all i hope is hoyo not cater to these speedrunners

make them separate playground

[thorn bay]

https://youtube.com/shorts/sYXYhtAw6hQ?si=tsbhZPjD5cHeLZCI
i also found this

[quaint fern]

We can't compete with whale investment

I don't normally bother following speed run content for that reason

[thorn bay]

https://youtu.be/Q-gMfPJu5hU?si=vLS-Wtb_fw74lSN7
i wanna see this chasca so bad

[kind raptor]

there r better options lol

[cedar flint]

well kok can use tenacity and hold ttds and she provides the healing since they don’t have esco so overall a decent choice

[wide dirge]

Just switched my Iansan's (C3) weapon to fav and Emilie's weapon to that one event one, are these builds fine now?

[lunar swift]

is this weaponm worth building, who is it good for if so

[strange scarab]

Meh

[lyric cargo]

I ctrl + F'd in https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds
not ranked highly on anyone relevant

WGS is nice, though

[lunar swift]

okeyy i wont build it then thankss i have copies of fav to build insteadd

[lyric cargo]

I'd like to have it for Navia
so she can have a decent weapon while Mavuika's sig is used by Mavuika

[lyric cargo]

it's funny how Navia is now my first triple crowned char
I don't exactly use her a lot, but she's the first char where all three talents seem worth it

maybe Bennett next I only really considered crowning his NA when Xianyun came out

[forest venture]

quack

[lunar swift]

who has the flower tracker in mondstadt

[opal surge]

Diona maybe

[rugged sparrow]

Mond local specialty is Klee

and Mika iirc

[lyric cargo]

I go here to check: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Utility_Passive

[late locust]

guys can i get a recommended team for fl12?

[lyric cargo]

first half:

• SSA:OD
• random enemies
• 2 Wayob

basically just bring enough cryo for SSA:OD and a team that can damage Wayobs even when some bursts are taken away

second half:

• Spiritspeaker
• random enemies, cryo shield Wayob
• big hamster

Beyond that, just bring pyro. All three enemies are weak to pyro. the big hamster loses hp when you hit its fruits with it.
Spiritspeaker can be stunned with Citlali or Ororon. (Do a charge attack to freeze her clones)

looks like Hutao is your only pyro option

[late locust]

i got arle tho

[lyric cargo]

ah, didn't see her somehow

[late locust]

so like can i run mono pyro arle for the second half?

[thorn bay]

Atleast bring ororon??

[late locust]

for ?

[lyric cargo]

I think it can be done without Ororon, though all my tries have had Citlali

[thorn bay]

Is arle ororon Bennett Chevy overload gud tho

[late locust]

ok ill try that

but what do i do first half tho...

[thorn bay]

Nununu

[lyric cargo]

Spiritspeaker can be stunned with Citlali or Ororon. (Do a charge attack to freeze her clones)

did you not read that part? But yeah, I think it might be optional

[lyric cargo]

Ororon can't enter nigthsoul state there, so no 4pc scroll buff. just off-field electro from his burst

[late locust]

ngl i always just brute forced my way

[thorn bay]

Mmmm ok

[thorn bay]

Mono pyro should be gud since you gotta melt the clones

[late locust]

what do i do about the first half could i run skirk comp?

[thorn bay]

Ye

[late locust]

alr thx

[lyric cargo]

someone was in a similar situation yesterday, might want to read back

#📌gimshim-help message
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[thorn bay]

I want a nuke team that I can atleast hit 500 k

I’m pretty sure that I can hit that

Is citlali furina escoffier xiangling gud team??

I should probably get nre for easier heal

Also is furina fanfare changes for the amount of hp increase or decrease or how many times hp increase or decrease

Seems like how many time?

I still wanna try this tho ;(

Ig I could switch to em sands

Best I got ;(((

[thorn bay]

If it is I might wanna spam apple from nre

[lyric cargo]

share button 2-column view

[lyric cargo]

for what challenge? I'd say cut Xiangling and do a full freeze team so Escoffier's kit fully works

[thorn bay]

I thought melt would be better

[thorn bay]

Dendro wayob

[lyric cargo]

it's the total percentage change
so if every party member loses 50% health and then is healed to full
that's 4x 100% change. so 400 fanfare

[thorn bay]

Ohhh

[lyric cargo]

hp loss happens over time, though. a big teamwide heal would give you frontloaded fanfare

[thorn bay]

Wayob will shred hp too very very loss so I use pneuna furina??

[lyric cargo]

I can't parse that, sorry

don't use healing mode, it doesn't generate particles

you usually pair Furina with a healer

exception would be for Neuvilette, he fills and depletes his own hp so much that no team healing is needed

but you mentioned Escoffier, who is a teamwide healer

[lunar swift]

how do i get more of these sets

[thorn bay]

It’s dendro wayob
I kill bunch of ppl
I probably get enough energy from that
My whole team would be on the edge of dying
So healer furina with esco healing full team seems like I gud way to gain as much fanfare as possible as fast as possible

[opal surge]

why would you need to generate fanfare in this phase?

Don't you do a full setup before the nuke in her vuln phase?

[thorn bay]

??

[thorn bay]

I need explanation sir

I’m way too dumb to understand

[thorn bay]

Like while killing ppl for buffs??

[old tulip]

I just started back yesterday, after a year long break (I’m missing so much info). I’ve done a couple runs in the event, but I cannot figure out what I’m missing. How do I activate this??

(On mobile right now since I’m not home, if that makes a difference)

[cedar flint]

activate what?

the echos?

[old tulip]

The painting. I saw that’s where you can obtain the accessories for characters.

Yes the Echos

[cedar flint]

maybe you’re standing too far

I don’t remember needing to do anything specific for it

[old tulip]

I’ve stood all around it and for some reason it doesn’t give me an option

[cedar flint]

do you have keys

[old tulip]

👀 I’m not sure? Let me log back in really fast

[cedar flint]

maybe you can’t Check it before you get one for the first time

[old tulip]

Ooh wait no I do not have the keys

I haven’t done act 6 yet

[cedar flint]

ye

clear normal difficulty

[old tulip]

Thanks!

[zealous ledge]

Anyone who can help me w this? I've just started this, but I can't see any character icons on the map, anywhere

Like, nowhere

I remember the past "anecdotes" event, and I remember there being icons on the map

Did I start too late?

😕

[elder bluff]

you zoom too far

[elder bluff]

there is only one here and you need progress to see it

[zealous ledge]

I think I looked everywhere, every nation, all the way zoomed in

[elder bluff]

show fontaine and inazuma

sumeru also

natlan doesn't appear on map but they stands around kath so it is easy

[elder bluff]

are you sure you didn't do that event already

or you are in coop

[zealous ledge]

No co-op

[elder bluff]

do you happen to have so much quests that all characters are busy

[zealous ledge]

No, I actually have 0 quests left to do

[elder bluff]

can you stream it on VC?

[zealous ledge]

I am so confused, is my game broken or something

[elder bluff]

I don't think there is any more reason

[zealous ledge]

Not now, but in 30 minutes or so I can

[elder bluff]

ok

[viral mulch]

the gang of chads

[bright cape]

for the third team, what is yelan's ER requirement?

[viral mulch]

idk

[bright cape]

it's weird. i have none of the teams from top 10

[opal surge]

~180 with fav furina fav yelan

[bright cape]

thanks. i am thinking of getting her for arle n this team

i also have fav bow r5 laying around

[opal surge]

I think I would not recommend doing that personally

Well i mean if you like yelan she is pretty good so thats fine

but Im not sure if youll play her with arle much

[bright cape]

she can also join alhaitham quickbloom

[opal surge]

and shes not super important for skirk, shes definitely the first to go if she gets a new teammate

Yeah shes fairly versatile, if you have teams you want to use her in why not

[bright cape]

i also lack a bit of bow characters

she will also help with that flying enemy

it's only after citlali and escoffier though.

[viral mulch]

kinda late to go for yelan by now

she had her times

[royal drum]

I need some opinions on my freeze team it comprises skirk furina escoffier and citali atm

[rugged sparrow]

pretty good

[royal drum]

Should i swap any1 one of them out for some one else or jsut maintain what i have

[rugged sparrow]

well Citllai is replaceable but at best it's like Shenhe

you can definitely get away with just using Cit for the most part

[royal drum]

Alrite ty top g

[whole turret]

who is the best for the last slot here? kazuha?

[rugged sparrow]

an anemo slot is good sure

though pretty sure Sucrose is better than Kaz

[whole turret]

oh yeah definitely