📌gimshim-help

[opal surge]

Post Ur roster

[strange scarab]

For a sec i thought this is memesicles alt

[dusky oxide]

marked characters are built so just focus on them

exclude skirk furina shenhe chef cuz I already cleared the last one

[strange scarab]

what did you use on tulpa

can you clear tulpa with hb

[dusky oxide]

hb?

[strange scarab]

hyperbloom

[dusky oxide]

never tried

[strange scarab]

[opal surge]

What do U use on it

[dusky oxide]

I did clear it with the standard mav team, replaced benny with the

gymmer girl

forgot her name

iansan, right

[opal surge]

You don't have chev?

This doesn't look like an account that doesn't have chev

[dusky oxide]

she's lv20 and c1

[opal surge]

Level her and ull clear

[dusky oxide]

say on g right now

[opal surge]

Yeah

[dusky oxide]

aight

[opal surge]

Same team as the person above will clear fearless quite easily

Otherwise U can try navia Bennet XL xilonen but it's like not an easy clear

It can clear but it's non trivial

[strange scarab]

how much er does solo hydro rina need again

cuz i figure if i switch fav to dm for esco that'll worse things up

[jolly junco]

maybe with more optimisation or if I put some 5* weapons on

[opal surge]

200+

[jolly junco]

but im consistently doing 6n1cd on raiden so

[opal surge]

If on fav

Lemon can you sanity check me I'm at work, the video above is doing 5n1c no?

My internet here is turbobad I can barely watch thevideo

[jolly junco]

the video i send is 6n1cd

[opal surge]

Nah I meant from the person seeking help

[jolly junco]

yes

[candid storm]

I am reaching so close sheesh

[rugged sparrow]

3n3c + n1c is the better combo right

[candid storm]

for Raiden?

I'm missing like 5~10%-ish HP now

(I put Xiangling on R5 Homa)

[rugged sparrow]

[jolly junco]

closer

[rugged sparrow]

still can't believe I still dont have c6 Sara

[candid storm]

I hate this boss with my guts

sigh

[jolly junco]

might have to level a song set for chevreuse

then put sara on noblesse

wanna see if this is doable without 5* weps

[candid storm]

Wish I had an extra escoffier weapon for Chevvy

[jolly junco]

hey if I can't do it without 5* weps that will be my first move

or elegy sara

goat f2p.btw weapon

[candid storm]

I cant seem to clear with 5* weapons and C4 Raiden I suck c;

[jolly junco]

to be fair a c4 raiden is basically a c3 raiden

but nah don't feel bad, it is difficult

[opal surge]

Lds is very gimmicky

[jolly junco]

if you are faster on your dash cancels you can do 6n1cd instead of 5n1cd on raiden, that is a big dps increase

[jolly junco]

people usually cost BP weapons regardless of refine at 0.5 right?

[candid storm]

I use 1n1c, is it bad?

[jolly junco]

in the video you were doing 5n1cd

5 just means n1cd 5 times

[candid storm]

oh

okay okay got it mb, I do 6n1cs on normal and also my chevreuse shoots faster its just the video recording lag

I still do not clear tho ;/

[manic copper]

I havent played for a long time, how to get aloy constelation?

[elder bluff]

buy more ps5 ||/j||

[manic copper]

Ouw ☹️

[primal latch]

Can you no longer grind for artifacts on stygian onslaught?

[strange scarab]

Go check it

[primal latch]

Tried it cant find the flower or something

[bright cape]

only first 10 days

[primal latch]

Oof, i wasnt able to get the feather. Tyty

[opal surge]

Yeah

[jolly junco]

no

[dense birch]

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[crude dirge]

why do i not have a dull blade role

i got dull blade

[noble vale]

Yeah the theater i never will do cuz i don’t have anyone else that is good or level 80 ones with artifacts, fr this game is hell because it forces me to build the characters even what I have or get one. Here’s what I have

My next character to pull is Furina cuz she is account saving

[viral mulch]

u know what else is account saving
doing theater

even if its not visionary doing whatever you can is better than not doing anything

[quaint fern]

I dropped 11 sec on SSAO clear compared to ~3ish weeks ago

[bright cape]

looks like u can do dire on ssao

have u tried?

[quaint fern]

not yet

I probably can, I would be surprised if I wouldnt be able to

I think there's also some optimization that I can do to my actual gameplay too

I think I can get away with escoffier E > skirk NA spam for the first stun phase?

it's fine for fearless

[nova swift]

Not as fine as you

[crude dirge]

should i save and wait for fontaine chronicled to get the first great magic for femboy?
i use skyward harp rn

[opal surge]

im sure you will be able to save to like 7.5

For TFGM that seems like a resonable premise

[rugged sparrow]

pull for ASTRAL VULTURE'S CRIMSON PLUMAGE 🗣️ 🔥 instead

[crude dirge]

we got 2 chronicled in single big version idk

maybe in 6.5 or smth

if they dont put sumeru at 5.9 or 6.0

[opal surge]

It's not happening

[crude dirge]

why not

we got liyue and inazuma 3 patches apart

[opal surge]

chronicled is a banner that exists to sell characters that are impossible to sell by running a banner for them

[crude dirge]

they sure will get a lot money from banner with furina and neuvilette

[rugged sparrow]

then they'd just run them separately

[opal surge]

Which will both not run on a fontaine chronicled, if it were to exist

chronicled is a banner that exists to sell characters that are impossible to sell by running a banner for them

liyue chronicled missed hu tao, yelan and xianyun

I sure wonder why

[rugged sparrow]

fwiw Inazuma chronicle had Chiori but ig her sales is just godawful

does this mean Emilie will be on Fontaine chronicled

[opal surge]

Fontaine chronicled would be, Lyney, Wrio, Navia, Sigewinne, Clorinde (?), Emilie I guess

[rugged sparrow]

Clorinde walked so Varesa could run

[opal surge]

its definitely not arle neuv and furina

[crude dirge]

and furina on the same patch

[opal surge]

I would argue its also not clorinde but clorinde sales arent great

[crude dirge]

but separate banner

[opal surge]

• it seems chronicled needs 6 characters

[rugged sparrow]

actually didn't check Clor sales but ik Chiori sales is just not it

[crude dirge]

sethos but 5*

which we got for free

[rugged sparrow]

Neuv is just Barbara but 5*

[crude dirge]

furina is just mona but archon

kind of

and has more goons

[opal surge]

Is there noone in natlan that gives Expedition bonus

Or do i just not own them

[rugged sparrow]

uh

idk

[viral mulch]

i dont think so cus they were too busy flickering with nightsoul passives ig

[fringe bear]

don't na spam use 4 charged attacks on skirk to remove circle, proceed with full team rotation, should be very easy with c2 furina

[viral mulch]

skrrk

[violet cipher]

This is for a Mavuika build, which stats do I pick? I think right is technically better, but I'm putting Serpent Spine on her so I feel like I should worry about overcapping.

[fringe bear]

er is wasted, you are choosing 2 crit rolls vs 3, ofc right one is better, you can balance with other artifacts

[violet cipher]

k

any sword here that's a better pick than r1 Serpent Spine?

[fringe bear]

this one is solid but still like 7% weaker than Serpent Spine r1

maybe u will get WGS at some point from standard

u can use Mailed Flower if you overcrit a lot, and use Serpent on someone else

or change mav build to sup-dps with Scroll for varessa kinich mualani etc, that way you will need a lot of crit)

[violet cipher]

I just have a little too much crit rate for this set. I can adjust it a bit though to maybe 65% and then less if I get a better flower or hourglass.

[fringe bear]

for melt teams you usually go em sands, if you can get sands from her set you can maybe change flower for crit damage heavy one

[violet cipher]

I do have Mualani so I probably could also try scroll

[fringe bear]

you can make 2 fast setups and switch with 1 click, that's very useful

[violet cipher]

atm I have these three. They have worse substats but I don't have to worry about crit.
Also I do have Citlali so I will probably melt.

[nova swift]

Not as useful as you

[bright cape]

it will be fine if u go with her signature

[fringe bear]

this one solid, 3 good rolls

[violet cipher]

Ok, I'll use that until I get better artifacts. current ratio 58/175 at level 70 so could use work.

[violet cipher]

48 pity and 0 wishes left.

[fringe bear]

yes, if you can make it exactly 60 it will be even better))

[opal surge]

serpent spine is a bit of a fraud weapon now

[opal surge]

mav plays codex in mualani teams

she doesnt play scrroll in kinich teams either

nor in varesa teams

[violet cipher]

this would be 1 over and kinda worse but it's the closest thing atm

[violet cipher]

Chasca teams?

[opal surge]

nah codex too

mav is codex for mulani, chasca, & varesa, deepwood for kinich

[opal surge]

you can play mailed flowers serpent spine is severely overcalced

especially for onslaught

Its calced with 5 stacks because in abyss you can prestack to 5, in onslaught you cant

(its still a little bit better on average, but the gap is more narrow now, and if you cant get a SS build going right now just play mailed for now)

[fringe bear]

scroll is usable if you overcrit a lot on codex, deepwood also is good for dendro yes, i meant any alternative build other than codex to fix crit overflow issue

[opal surge]

mualani chasca varesa all have dedicated scroll holders that are not mav

and for kinich shes not able to refresh scroll into burning so you need a character that can break burning to refresh scroll

and that character can hold scroll themselves

[fringe bear]

it depends on the team, and content you are fighting against, there is no such thing as dedicated scroll holders, and again I meant any alternative build aside codex including deepwood etc

[jolly junco]

assuming you're not facing enemies with innate auras, all 3 of them do have dedicated scroll holders

when it wouldn't work is when the aura prevents it

[fringe bear]

scroll is useless vs Hydro Tulpa i know

[opal surge]

its not false that there are edge cases where scroll mavuika is optimal, but its quite rare

its much easier to swap weapon to solve overcritting by a lot compared to swapping to a set thats not very good most of the time

[jolly junco]

not necessarily

i aint backread whatever you were talking about but some characters can still use scroll well on tulpa

[fringe bear]

true, it's usually comes down to the quality of artifacts

[violet cipher]

Mavuika/Citlali/Bennet
I don't have Xilonen but I do have C4 Iansan and C3 Ororon as well as Sucrose and Kazuha. Should I use Iansan or someone else (either on this list or are there any other 4/5 stars I should use?

[jolly junco]

for what

[violet cipher]

4th slot on Mavuika team.

[jolly junco]

ok so no specific content in mind, iansan

[violet cipher]

Yeah.
For Stygian Onslaught, I have Arlechino and Mavuika; Which one would be better for Taulpa and which one would be better for Lava Dragon?

[violet cipher]

What set does Iansan have? Instructor or nobless and I give Instructor to Bennet?

[opal surge]

ins bennett and either tom citlali or nob iansan, but both of them will have fairly high ER reqs without scroll

if you cant make either of the ER reqs without great opportunity cost consider simply playing scroll on boht lali and iansan and playing nob/ins on bennett

[violet cipher]

ok, ty.

[sleek tapir]

Need 2x mavuikas for summon ritual 646126177

[violet cipher]

I tried flower set, is my crit rate too low?

[opal surge]

its a little low yeah

Is that really your best feather?

[violet cipher]

I got two other decent ones and a lot I can level up

[glad lance]

it's okay dmg for ar48?

[opal surge]

If you can kill what you need to kill it's alright

[crude dirge]

shouldnt u have fischl by ar 48?

also em sands is bad idea for overload

[lunar swift]

Does mauvika have good pull value if i dont have citlali or xilonen? I have arle for pyro dps

[glad lance]

i have only this for replacement

[crude dirge]

what about goblet

it basically has only 2 good rolls

[glad lance]

this is my seond goblet

[crude dirge]

yeah use it for now

it has atk and slightly more cr

[glad lance]

so atk% instead of pyro dmg?

[crude dirge]

use that one

flat atk sure is better than def rolls

[sage sail]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-hoshimi-miyabi-zzz-disagreement-disagree-gif-2514870511680637718

[cyan meteor]

is this good for skirk guys

[cedar flint]

it’s alright

only one useful sub is sad and if you don’t have a crit rate weapon and u using the galleries set you might want to consider crit rate circlet

[elder bluff]

we can't know if not see the rest. cr piece is preferable unless you already reached 85 cr with that circlet

[crude dirge]

will emilie signature be better than white tassel for arle

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus has no innate aura

[crude dirge]

dang its actually good

[thorn bay]

Yes but I’m not interested

[strange scarab]

[crude dirge]

who should i use on arle burn as dendro

[viral mulch]

emilie
if you dont have then dont consider burning

[forest venture]

.

[viral mulch]

dot

[crude dirge]

i got her sig

[viral mulch]

but not her

[strange scarab]

[bright cape]

emilie's sig is weird

[crude dirge]

i was pulling for tbs

[viral mulch]

rip

[crude dirge]

its good

like lvl 60 did as good as white tassel at lvl 90

or better

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/caesar-caesar-king-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-goodmorning-gif-934498512191953552

[viral mulch]

one ceasar salad one risotto one scallops

[bright cape]

does every c6 5 star character have special effects?

i was hoping to see if standard ones have it too

[crude dirge]

nah

[opal surge]

In what way special effect

[bright cape]

ganyu has bracelet

escoffier's dish has different color

i was hoping if something similar for diluc

[opal surge]

Oh I mean it's just the vfx of the con itself but no it just depends on the con

In that sense it's not just c6s

[bright cape]

oh. it's written in con?

[neon harness]

Ik jean gets dandelions that circles her when she bursts but idk about any other standard 5 star

[opal surge]

No it's a visual indicator that a certain effect is active

[bright cape]

oh ok

[neon harness]

Checked his wiki, not c6, but at a certain con his hand gets lit on fire apparently lol

[opal surge]

What the helly

[viral mulch]

idk either for standards

[bright cape]

do u see this now?

she has shiny thing on her bike

[viral mulch]

i never even noticed

[bright cape]

i dunno if it's just cosmetic

[viral mulch]

some visual effects i notice and others i dont even know if it exists or been there since c0

[strange scarab]

Jean

thats all i know

[neon harness]

👖

[viral mulch]

👖

[strange scarab]

👖

[bright cape]

👖

is there a good skirk team without furina?

if not, i don't see the point to farm new set

[rugged sparrow]

define "good"

if Furina is the benchmark for good then no

one of highest (if not highest) off-field hydro dmg that can also give ur team near 3 goblet main stats

as solo hydro your options are basically like Xq / Yelan

not sure how c6 Candace fares

[bright cape]

then i guess i will keep farming MH for her

[candid jolt]

Should I go for EM sands or HP sands? (Skill active so attack is high)

[rugged sparrow]

EM

only time you'd consider HP sands on Tao is when you're running DBane
and even then it's close afaik

[candid jolt]

ic thanks!

[opal surge]

Or fjords

[rugged sparrow]

BP weapons don't exist

but yeah I totally forgot abt Fjords

[candid jolt]

Raiden still viable as dps? Or should I just build up skirk and mavuika

[opal surge]

C0 raiden?

Either way build skirk and mavuika instead

[rugged sparrow]

c0 Raiden in big 2025

[opal surge]

But onslaught will need you to have 3 teams

[candid jolt]

C2

With r1 engulfing

[rugged sparrow]

if "viable" is clearing abyss/IT/SO (fearless) then sure

assuming good match up, anyway

[candid jolt]

I need to build xilonen for mavuika ig

[rugged sparrow]

she's not really that hard to build anyway, pre-c4

just random 4p Cinder / Petra pieces and she's basically good to go

[candid jolt]

Idk what's a good comp for skirk tho
I have furina but don't have citlali or Escoffier or mona

[candid jolt]

Just er?

[rugged sparrow]

not even ER

she doesn't burst in Mavuika's team

her literal existence is literally just En2

[candid jolt]

Ill just run the domain rq then

[rugged sparrow]

Skirk/Furina/Shenhe/Charlotte

[rugged sparrow]

if anything Xilonen wants maxed E (or as high as possible)

since her res shred scales from that

[candid jolt]

Ight

[glad lance]

which artifact's are to change?

[rugged sparrow]

you need to find a better goblet, feather, and flower

[glad lance]

okay, thanks

search for what bonus stat's?

[rugged sparrow]

crit em and atk%

[glad lance]

both crit's?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

crit rate caps at 60% due to Obsidian

[opal surge]

Yes

What the helly my answer lagged out

[rugged sparrow]

🐌

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[crude dirge]

who the best emilie sig users if i got it from loss on weapon banner

[opal surge]

emilie

its an unremarkable statstick on everyone else

[crude dirge]

im trying to fit it on arle

[bright cape]

do u have pjws by any chance?

[crude dirge]

who

[bright cape]

jade winged spear

[crude dirge]

nah

[bright cape]

oh ok

[crude dirge]

i used white tassel

[crude dirge]

what

[candid fable]

help i fall down

[quaint fern]

I was doing a fearless clear with ganyu and I was wondering why I was doing so little damage

I forgot to swap off my freeze build :-:

[jolly junco]

c2 jade spear frauden can 🙏

this can be faster

I messed up 2 charged attack combos

imagine getting mogged by newer c0 on-field electros

if anything from this experience my raiden gameplay has improved

[neon harness]

@strange scarab r u gonna pull for blaze alter and yu, i heard that blaze isnt even that good. but idk anything about yu, idk if he is good for my acc, idk if i should pull

[quaint fern]

I'm trying to do LDS w/o Nahida ganyu

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message which feather should I use? If none of the above, I’ll just level up another.

[quaint fern]

1st image right if you need more CR

Just purely based on rolls

[violet cipher]

1st image right should give me 50 CR (current build here#📌gimshim-help message ). Do I need more?

[candid fable]

U want help to switch out ganyu, so pr3ss L click on ganyu and switch her there u go ur welcome 🏳️‍🌈

[strange scarab]

So im being told, im only after the suiblings, as for yu well i only hear good things about him but hes a defender so u might wanna account that

[neon harness]

Yea that’s my thought as well 😔 I don’t need more defenders unless he does a shit ton of dmg

[thorn bay]

50-60

But try to go closer to 60 as possible

[violet cipher]

k, so ig close enough for now. I gotta work on talents, then I'll try and work on crit rate

[quaint fern]

🗣️

[bright cape]

🫡

u put ganyu n ayaka on map

[strange scarab]

He seems to be a decent laneholder and crowd control with his S2 which is his best gimmick, his S3 seems pretty niche in that other ops needs to be in the same row/column as him and it has to be arts damage
if you're not tryharding IS or CC i guess hes skippable, im just pulling to collect the suiblings lol

Rice field is the best gimmick after all

https://tenor.com/view/shu-arknights-sui-gif-15472432076322150399

[neon harness]

Rosarisaait a sec

Is that sibling banner where w alter is gonna be able to be sparked

Or was that the lemuen and exu banner

[strange scarab]

Walter should be on exu lemuen banner

[neon harness]

😩 oh thank god

[neon harness]

Do you know who we are able to be able to spark on the sibling banner, other than the siblings

[strange scarab]

https://imgur.com/IG4a592

Im gonna mald if texalt really is 200 spark cuz i spent 300 on her

[candid fable]

what can i do with this? is it a puzzle?

[bright cape]

what website is this?

it shows ranking on artifacts and build.

also kinda surprised this cleared the dire

ok. that was surprisingly very high EM for atk sands build

[neon harness]

Does it start on the lemuen banner

The 200 spark

[strange scarab]

looks like it

Had i known i would've gotten virtuosa instead

though texalt definitely worth more for general content than virtuo, i only used virtuo for H13-4

[remote rain]

any mauv teams

[thorn bay]

Citlali sucrose Bennett maybe i think???

Get that heart away from me you human

[remote rain]

its a heart.

[neon harness]

Nice 🤠 I already have 160 pulls so I’m gurenteed to get walter

Finally

Haven’t had so many pulls in a while

[strange scarab]

i have 337 pulls honestly im just pulling sui banner in hope of chongyue or ling
i dont dig Yu that much

[neat onyx]

I got a question.What team will be perfect for skirt for free to play player

[bright cape]

how f2p?

do you have furina?

[neat onyx]

No

[bright cape]

dahlia?

[neat onyx]

Let me show you what Characters does I have

[bright cape]

sure

[strange scarab]

Kek

[neat onyx]

There's a copy in their because I accidentally took a picture of the same characters twice

[bright cape]

skirk, xingqiu, layla, diona

[strange scarab]

diona sneak

[bright cape]

xingqiu will go with eosf

layla will help with tenacity

diona will help with Noblesse

[bright cape]

i mean for a beginner having a shielder / healer helps

[neat onyx]

Right now i'm running with xingqil Layla and mona

[strange scarab]

Mika is deadass better

[strange scarab]

layla is there

hell even mona

[bright cape]

oh right. mona is better

she can help with ttds

n her buffs

[neat onyx]

Oh yeah those pictures were Taken when I was farming for Skirt materials

[bright cape]

i haven't build mika. does he boost normal attack?

[bright cape]

that's a very solid begineer team. stack as much ER on mona as possible

i haven't build mine yet

[neat onyx]

Right now.Are you right now?I just need her skills leveled up

[bright cape]

i would start with skirk first

and keep others 20 levels below

[neon harness]

🤠

[bright cape]

max out skirk

[neat onyx]

Weapon.
Is the signature and it's level 90 she also level 90

But first I have to unlock the boss

[bright cape]

awesome

[neat onyx]

She uses the new boss materials and I haven't really unlocked that yet

So
I gotta play through the game so I can get it or join someone's world and get the materials that way

[strange scarab]

you can just quick start the boss

its in adventurer's handbook menu

[remote rain]

is kinich weap good for mauv

[half anchor]

Pov playing genshin on the other side of the world

[quaint fern]

mLING LING LING

if you cant tell I like ling

[strange scarab]

but she no cryo

[quaint fern]

but blue = cyro surely

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-ling-blue-woman-jumpscare-gif-26386895

flagpipe + ling trust farm

I havent played AK in forever

[thorn bay]

Atleast you can get rewards after 2 seconds

Imagine waiting for a minute just to get connection lost

Hehe

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-ling-gif-26338478

[crude dirge]

atk or em sands

he gets like 200 em from nahida idk

[quaint fern]

both are good, if using slingshot then em otherwise the atk one has bettter substats

[crude dirge]

i could use skyward harp

feels the same

[vapid egret]

almost a coordinated team...

[crude dirge]

c6 furina

[viral mulch]

any anemo mc trolls in chat

[jolly junco]

did you see how dahlia has powecrept albedo for apep?

[viral mulch]

yes

its so sad albedo lost his only job

[jolly junco]

[viral mulch]

also im finally trying out mavuika on explo and it seems like i missed the golden time to feel shes good at it

[jolly junco]

my favourite is still chasca

at least for natlan

tho it depends to some extent on the area ig

[glad lance]

how to get crowns?

[opal surge]

flagship events give a crown every patch

There are a couple scattered through exploration rewards etc iirc but the main source are the main events

[viral mulch]

trying out event

i already encountered a lot of dumbos

[rugged sparrow]

in Asia? nowaying

[viral mulch]

got the plunge shield stage but no one but me plunged

[rugged sparrow]

oh the oversized weasel

[opal surge]

natchez pov

[rugged sparrow]

LMFAO

[viral mulch]

now 1p crashed lmao

[opal surge]

wait u can pick the same char twice wth

[pure epoch]

Just asking, the latest coop event can we play with our friend? Or only with public

[crude dirge]

i think u can

[cedar flint]

I want to see 4 furina drain hp

[lyric cargo]

iirc, multiple Furinas in co-op will just resummon the pets rather than summon a second set

[cedar flint]

fun killers

[frigid valley]

Does skirk need more cr or no?

[cedar flint]

it’s alright 83 crit rate is fairly good

could always get more tho

[thorn bay]

Looks good to me (maybe because my mh artifacts are absolute garbaga)

[viral mulch]

were 3 queueing @rugged sparrow

[thorn bay]

You get noelle

[bright cape]

same happened to me. no one brought cryo.

[vernal stone]

What artifact set is better for xiao, vermillion or vaeresa plunge set in natlan

[elder bluff]

it is stage 1 where everyone will lose HP overtime. they always bring an arle

[lyric cargo]

afaik, the new set is very slightly better. but if you already have the other farmed..

the GenshinBuilds sheet treats them as equal:
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

zy0x plays a bunch of Xiao, right? I assume they researched it well if they say it's better (20s in)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cw8SO8F02_Q

[bright cape]

this is so hilarious

he also has cracked ayato from farming vermillion

[lyric cargo]

also, spending dozens of transient resin right before Stygian Onslaught comes out

[bright cape]

didn't know he did that

[tranquil wren]

Current team im building- wanderer yelan bennett faruzan

1. I want to is this the best team i can make out of current character with wanderer?
2. I want to know which characters should i build next after this team or a team?
3. Which character should i pull for?

[quaint fern]

This new event is so frustrating

[lyric cargo]

sounds like it might be better to play with premades?

(not random matchmaking)

or is that impossible?

[quaint fern]

People trying to pull they they don't have good pyro/electro when they have Bennett/fischl

[quaint fern]

I dont know tbh

[viral mulch]

i trolled with 2 or 3 queue

[quaint fern]

I had someone go Skirk for the vaporize one

[viral mulch]

gotta love bringing yoimiya or smth when i have all the better dps in the world

[quaint fern]

So any hydro aura got obliterated

[lyric cargo]

3: Furina for Neuvilette and Chasca (also wanderer sometimes)
Citlali for Chasca

[dapper heron]

Suggest some teams combs

[viral mulch]

🪮

[lyric cargo]

Mavuika (current banner) is also very reasonable, if you have extra pulls

[quaint fern]

Mav Bennett pmc Lynette?

[dapper heron]

Whats pmc

[quaint fern]

Pyro mc (wait NVM you'll have to finish Nathan AQ)

[dapper heron]

Also how's my current team. For melt and vap

[quaint fern]

So you're playing Mav with no external fighting spirit I guess ..

[dapper heron]

Whats fighting spirit🥹

[quaint fern]

It's how mavuika charges her burst, she gains it based on team phlogiston consumption (go read her burst)

[lyric cargo]

assuming this is for overworld

Mav + Bennett is good, I'd just add team members to deal with enemies Mav can't hit (like pyro abyss mages, fatui)

Mav's skill produces 5 pyro particles you can give to Bennett, to recharge his burst

[quaint fern]

*night soul points, I knew I was getting the name wrong

[lyric cargo]

some nightsoul would be good, yeah. I have Ororon on my alt, even though he ruins melts

might also be ok to just dash and normal attack in her regular skill bike form to use up nightsoul

[viral mulch]

train early for the n1cd fr

[quaint fern]

It's w/e they're only at 26

[dapper heron]

Hehehe what night soul

[quaint fern]

Mav + Bennett will just tear through everything even w/o burst every "rotation"

[dapper heron]

Ya that's what I do right now.

Sometimes using mavs e skill then normal attack from barbera. That does vape

[quaint fern]

Wait so people still get kachina for free once they start Nathan?

[viral mulch]

yea its perma

[dapper heron]

Mavs this voice over is soo sus. All I hear is "many in sex "😂

[dapper heron]

Ya in my current main am 26. Acc I lost is 55. Another one I have 55 or 56. That my brother also uses

I stopped playing after sumeru cause ya I got hacked. Made this new acc last week

[quaint fern]

Well I'm sure you know what you're doing then

[dapper heron]

Soo natlan and Fontaine stuff i don't know anything

[dapper heron]

Well I forgot a lot.

[quaint fern]

Yeah when you have the chance try to grab xingqiu and maybe ororon or smth

[dapper heron]

This the acc me and brother plays. Is it any good?

[dapper heron]

Ya really need xingqiu. Waiting for him to be in any future banners

[dapper heron]

Was pulling for mav and got keqing 😭

[quaint fern]

Oh well, just save for the next good DPS then

[dapper heron]

Hehehe

[quaint fern]

That account really needs a modern dps

[dapper heron]

Yaaa. Maybe the water cannon guy nuvellete? Whats his name?

This the acc I lost. Hacked guy changed name

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably keep trying to reclaim it via hoyo's customer support

making sure people who steal (or buy stolen accounts) don't keep them seems important

[dapper heron]

🫠

Ya I'll try again. But it's hard trying to find day online or day started playing. And the proof of purchase i did 1-2 years ago

[opal surge]

Those seem like questions which should be incredibly easy to answer if the account is yours

Considering you get an Email both for the day you started playing as well when you purchase somethhing

[dapper heron]

Duh I lost it like atleast more than 2 years.

[dapper heron]

Wait for real? I get mail for purchase? But I check my whole inbox. Did find the starting mail... is it the same day as joining date?

[opal surge]

well yeah? you get it when you register?

unless you registered and didnt play

[dapper heron]

But my brother bought welkin moon for me. How will it be in my mail ?

[opal surge]

Not a valid proof of purchase to make anyway if that welkin was through a third party provider

[quaint fern]

If you use apple account to pay, Google account to pay, PayPal you should get a receipt, if you used credit card you should be able to find statement data

[opal surge]

If anything that is something that I would avoid showing hoyo

[dapper heron]

I did got registration mail date as starting date. But all my tickets got rejected

[dapper heron]

He has no idea what he used.

But it was a debit card. And that specific bank acc is no longer available. It's frozen or closed

[opal surge]

Since he gifted it its not a proof of purchase unless he logged into your account and bought it (violates account sharing) in which case you should have received a proof of purchase

proof of purchase doesnt apply to gifts for obvious reasons

[dapper heron]

Pretty sure he logged in my acc to buy that

So my inbox should have a proof of buying? Even though he used his card?

[opal surge]

no but your brother must have it

[dapper heron]

Well he looked a lot. Well.. in my country tou don't usually get receipts in mail for debit card purchases. It's just an sms. If any comes.

[dapper heron]

Well went through whole inbox and found the 1st mail from mihoyo

Well this site someone suggested shows i started on 13/07/2021. But the 1st mail from mihoyo was at 13/06/2021

So which date to use?

[crude dirge]

to see when u joined look at when u got amber or smth

[lyric cargo]

can't check that without access to the account, I'd think

(anything you can check without owning the account wouldn't work to distinguish owners from thieves)

[crude dirge]

why would u need acc date of other person

[lyric cargo]

they say it's their account but they can't log into it

[dapper heron]

Duh I need for cs ticket

To retrieve my hacked account. It's asking for date i first joined and shit

[crude dirge]

how the fuck does person has to remember that date after like 3 years

i dont even think i can say a month

[dapper heron]

Ya that's the same question I asked

[opal surge]

by giving the registration email date

[crude dirge]

its either january of february but im not sure

[opal surge]

but it doesnt matter anyway proof of purchase is what will make or break your request

[dapper heron]

See.. I checked inbox and got 1st mail from mihoyo on 13/6. But this site says 13/7 so am confused

[dapper heron]

Idk I'll try again.

[dapper heron]

Oh ok

[opal surge]

ALl the other info, date joined days played etc is trivial to get

and can be given by a third party person that knows you

which is why CS cant give away account info based on that

[dapper heron]

Ah. So proof of purchase is like solid proof eh

[opal surge]

Usually account retrieval is bound to proof of purchase, being able to give IP adresses of registration and majority playtime stuff like that

password history for some services

[dapper heron]

Anyway to find most recent login?

[lyric cargo]

f2p account = no chance to reclaim, better get a single welkin for safety?

[dapper heron]

Should I even out yes on the top up option?

@opal surge

[lyric cargo]

ip address and date of registration and of last login were the big ones, on another site

[dapper heron]

How can I even find last login date that's 2 years ago

[opal surge]

nah they usually ask like 20ish questions in total u just have to get a convincing amount right with some big hitters among them

[opal surge]

you might just be cooked i wont lie you just barely know anything about the acc

but just try to the best of your ability idk

[fringe bear]

it's just easier to bond your phone number to the account, and never log in through questionable websites)

[dapper heron]

I lost my acc due to data breach

My whole accs were hacked. Google, insta , reddit. Etc etc

Oh well. Made the ticket. Literally begged in the additional info section. Explained why I don't have purchase proof, or last login date. Explained how I got hacked and all. Really wish I get my acc back.

[rain quartz]

please

tell me that theres someone, in america that can help me with my account 😭

[lyric cargo]

you'd probably have better chances if you describe what you need help with

but also, this channel was always more about giving advice than ingame help. places like the official server's co-op channel might be better for it

[rain quartz]

exploration 💔

[rain quartz]

tag me to it please

[lyric cargo]

https://discord.com/channels/522681957373575168/759660999032176660

link might not work until you get roles

[rain quartz]

#🚩role-assign

[rain quartz]

where do i get the roles for that

[rugged sparrow]

... go to official server

like the Genshin Impact Official Discord

discord.gg/genshinimpact

[crude dirge]

banned

[rain quartz]

me too

[crude dirge]

[rugged sparrow]

[dapper heron]

Why are you guys banned there

[rain quartz]

dont ask me

[dapper heron]

What! You don't know?

[rugged sparrow]

the bots usually send your ban notification so

if they disable DM from non-friends ig they'll never know

[dapper heron]

Oohh.

[rain quartz]

um

i know, but it was ironic

[dapper heron]

Tell me🤓

[rain quartz]

nsfw

i shipped too much neuvilette

[rugged sparrow]

I fail to see what's ironic about it but hey

[rain quartz]

no i meant about the fact that I didnt know the ban reason

[nova swift]

I'm also banned from the official discord as of 3 years ago

because I said I wanted Lisa to ||sit on my face and suffocate me until I pass out||

[quaint fern]

Funny bc I've seen worse

[haughty lotus]

So unfaithful to lumine…

[nova swift]

Hey it was when I first started the game 😭

[haughty lotus]

Lumine was at the start of the game too… no excuses vro 🪣

[valid anchor]

permabanned.

[valid anchor]

for next time, try to use more safety options, like 2FA or passkeys, or your phone.

[crystal plover]

should I really waste all my exploration primogems for mavuika? i kinda want someone else now.... i wasted a 100 pulls atp

[thorn bay]

Banned

Mods there hab no mercy

[valid anchor]

especially if got triggered from HYV staff there.

[full sonnet]

Use them on al or neuvillette

🤌

[violet cipher]

how much er does nobless C4 Iansan need?

[tepid finch]

is skirk, furina, shenhe and barbara a good team? ive also got yelan but she doesnt heal ;-;

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[strange scarab]

do you not have charlotte or mika

[tepid finch]

got both which is better?

[strange scarab]

Mika might be better but that means you'll have to build his talents as well

[quaint fern]

Char

Oh is he? I thought it would just be easier to do ttds

[strange scarab]

Me i wont build mika just for that 🚶‍♂️

[strange scarab]

she is easier to use

[tepid finch]

do i need cons on them to be useful

or should i just use barbara till escoffer gets rerun so i dont waste mats building them

wait im lowkey dumb i have kokomi what about her

[primal latch]

Does anyone know how much difference is fearless and dire in stygian onslaught?

[strange scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304772607702470677/1394521437443985558/Untitled501_20250624183505.jpg?ex=68771ccb&is=6875cb4b&hm=4a8b384ef39758fe931a201e2819e7585a8ddefd164520d0466567ab38c07320&

[forest venture]

codl cut pslatter

[primal latch]

Thanks, i just cant beat the first 2 in fearless haha

[bright cape]

those mini tulpas felt pretty frequent

[bronze socket]

What teams should I focus on building next? I already have a Perma Freeze Team (Skirk, Shenhe, Furina, Kokomi) and an Overload Team (Alre, Yae, Chev, Benny)

My characters for reference:

[strange scarab]

level up your hp scalers to 90 except healers

lv 70 is a weird stopping point

[quaint fern]

why is his best arle build 2pc 2pc

[viral mulch]

he got too much vermillion for his own good

[tropic thistle]

So uhh tips on this abyss before it resets ?!?!?!?

[lyric cargo]

chamber 3 should dictate your team choices

SSA:OD wants you to bring enough cryo application

the dancers have a cryo shield, which means you want to bring pyro

so first half, bring Bennett imo. Citlali would also be good, since the Spiritspeaker gets disabled by her.
So ideally, just a melt team

second half, if you have Escoffier then any freeze or mono cryo team

[tropic thistle]

My arlecchino team takes way too long to kill the wayseeker !!!!!!!

[tropic thistle]

Alternatives to cryo, I have no Escoffier ?!?!?!?

[lyric cargo]

you got Citlali?

[tropic thistle]

!!!!!!!

[lyric cargo]

cryo is a must, Escoffier is optional

[tropic thistle]

No Citlali, sadge !!!!!!!

[lyric cargo]

could try Arle Ben Chev Ororon

Oro can also stun the Spiritspeaker, same as Citlali

[tropic thistle]

Can kazuha swap chev?

[strange scarab]

that would defeat the purpose of running overload

[tropic thistle]

Hold up lemme gear chev and ororon real quick !!!!!!!

When I say gear mean level them up for the first time in months and/or years !!!!!!!

[jolly junco]

I wouldnt even suggest using ororon because outside of scanning the spiritspeaker things he is not doing a lot

he cant enter his nightsoul blessing state on that team

[lyric cargo]

right, I keep forgetting that using his burst isn't enough to trigger 4pc scroll for 40 dmg%

[tropic thistle]

ER or HP substat weapon for chevvy?

[lyric cargo]

fav lance or dialogues of the desert sages are both fine

[tropic thistle]

and artif sets?

[lyric cargo]

there aren't any truly great options for chev, it's either:

• noblesse (which Bennett already covers)
• scroll (non-natlan char, so 12 dmg% buff)
• OHC or song of days past or 2pc2pc

[violet cipher]

Team is Mavuika/bennet/Citlali/Iansan. Do I need more er or anything?

[opal surge]

ER is a little low

As is attack fwiw

[jolly junco]

ATK should be good no?

mavuika can upkeep the buff

and that is 2.5k without factoring in buffs

[opal surge]

I think this is under 3k post buffs (?) but it doesn't matter now since they don't have c5

But their flower also has one (1) sub so they can get both still

[jolly junco]

2.5k at tl10 maxes it so

[opal surge]

Yeah it's fine now but

I'm too used to thinking in C6 values anyway I didn't even look at their cons ngl

[jolly junco]

filthy whale

[opal surge]

I have c0 iansan

I do have CQ on her though

[violet cipher]

What’s more valuable, Mavuika weapon or Mavuika Constellation?

[violet cipher]

I’ll try and work on it.

[jolly junco]

c2 is better than sig but sig is better than c1

[thorn bay]

Hii

[sage sail]

i want to recommend my friend a team for mavuika but he doesn't have furina or citlali so im thinking iansan, ororon, chevreuse rn

but he doesn't have chev either so benny should suffice in the meantime

or xingqiu in single target

[jolly junco]

or just play melt

bennett, iansan/xilonen, rosaria/kaeya

[rugged sparrow]

the Raiden dilemma

[jolly junco]

true

[thorn bay]

Atleast ur frend listens and not block you cuz you tried to improve their account cuz they asked to (that was the weirdest human being I ever met)

[thorn bay]

Charlotte???

[opal surge]

Charlotte is bursty but short cryo app

[thorn bay]

Oh

[sage sail]

he doesn't have xilonen so i think he might need more nightsoul

i don't think iansan by herself will be enough

not without c1 mav

[opal surge]

She is

There's no reason to force 200FS (and xilonen doesnt reach 200 by herself either)

[thorn bay]

What’s fs

[opal surge]

Fighting spirit

[thorn bay]

Mav energy??

[opal surge]

Yes

[thorn bay]

I feel so dumb

[sage sail]

definitely won't be as comfy tho, i assume

he's a casual player so idk

[opal surge]

what why?

what does having 200 FS have to do with comfort

you just press burst like you would do otherwise

[sage sail]

i mean just having burst consistently

[opal surge]

you have it super consistently

like yeah if you dont swap to iansan you wont have it

but if you dont swap to xilo you also wont have it

thats a strange argument

[tropic thistle]

Okay, this abyss is really hard lol...!!!!!!!

[sage sail]

ok i'll tell him to use melt

[lyric cargo]

is that really your best off-piece goblet? 2 rolls of ER?

[crude dirge]

how much % is dmg increase on hunters path than slingshot on tighnari?

[jolly junco]

little over 30% for his personal damage iirc

[opal surge]

30ish

[crude dirge]

then im getting it on chronicled

[jolly junco]

his personal damage contribution is usually like 20-40% of team dps depending on what team it is, so it's not like super high value, but does look pretty

[opal surge]

aqua/AVPC etc are also midway between slingshot and Hpath if you happen to have them

[crude dirge]

tighnari yae nahida kuki

maybe considered his best team?

for spread

[cedar flint]

abyss reset? or just late?

[lyric cargo]

late

[lyric cargo]

^

[cedar flint]

I see thanks

[lyric cargo]

can you post a screenshot of your char pool?

(I don't really see a reason why Arle would struggle, though, besides not being built)

[jolly junco]

the best teams don't use a sustain

for spread anyway

[rugged sparrow]

usually anemo over Nahida and Fischl over Kuki

[jolly junco]

nahida is still good, but fischl over kuki

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[crude dirge]

how does anemo help here

[rugged sparrow]

vv

[crude dirge]

vv dendro

[jolly junco]

you have 2 electro damage dealers

[rugged sparrow]

most of your dmg is electro

[crude dirge]

only yae

[rugged sparrow]

Tighnari is only like 10-20% dmg share

in Yae Fischl team

[jolly junco]

two when you use fischl instead of kuki

[crude dirge]

no heal in the team

[jolly junco]

indeed

[rugged sparrow]

just don't die idk

[jolly junco]

the best teams dont use a healer or a shielder

[crude dirge]

and my yae is using half of fischl artefacts

[rugged sparrow]

you can always slot a Sayu

she has respectable dmg in agg team and also consolidates healing

(assuming c6 Sayu anyway so u can go full EM)

[jolly junco]

I find tighnari easy to play without a healer or a shielder

I did even when I had less investment and had lower damage

[rugged sparrow]

ye most boss in genshin is tame anyway

[jolly junco]

he's a quickswap dps and you have ranged and a taunt for non-boss enemies

and most boss enemies have easy to dodge attacks

[rugged sparrow]

non-boss isn't a threat due to Tigh's E ye

who even is the worst boss in terms of attack pattern

legit can't think of any

[jolly junco]

idk really maybe icewind suit in melee range, but this isn't an issue for tighnari anyway since you can just stand outside of melee range when attacking and dodge/q to iframe the projectiles when the other one throws shit at you from the outside

[rugged sparrow]

Tigh isn't even your first pick for Icewind Suite anyway

so it's w/e

[jolly junco]

he works fine for it still

the cryo shield is small

[rugged sparrow]

yeh

just saying that I'd rather bring pyro-focused teams when I can

gets melted by Coppelius

[jolly junco]

actually this abyss you would run a sustain when using tighnari but that is just because the best options for high uptime cryo hits for his team also happen to provide defensive utility

[rugged sparrow]

dont say her name out loud

[jolly junco]

well there's two of them which would work well

layla or escoffier

[rugged sparrow]

nooooo

he said the L name

now void's gonna come

[jolly junco]

unironically tighnari, fischl/yae, nahida, layla/escoffier is good 2nd half

[rugged sparrow]

wait Escoff cant solo SSAOD no?

the gauge

[jolly junco]

not even when paired with superconduct?

[rugged sparrow]

honestly I'm not sure, that's why I want to know

I thought you tested

[jolly junco]

I think she should be able to

I have tested layla at least

[rugged sparrow]

I don't have Escoff to test

[jolly junco]

I dont care enough to test it but I think it's enough

[rugged sparrow]

Cit and Layla can but bringing Cit in Tigh team is like ???

the catch with Cit is u need to on-field her a bit

apparently if the bar hits 0 it regens slower for some reason

[crude dirge]

i feel like some field time isnt a problem for quickswap

[rugged sparrow]

it isn't

it's more that Cit kinda offers nothing for TIgh team in general

she gives 4p Cinder for the electro DPSes and potentially TTDS

(ig it's still more than Layla's buff so)

[hot spoke]

Wrong channel mb

[lyric cargo]

I guess there's Hakushin Ring as well, though idk who's crafted that

I found healerless fine for Stygian Onslaught (used Tighnari Nahida Fischl + em Raiden on Tulpa)

in Abyss, it used to stress me since I'd never know much much health I'd need to preserve for future chambers

for SO, there's no need for that. you clear, or you don't.

[rugged sparrow]

(I do)

Hakushin was the craze during dendro meta

I was even thinking to make another one

[lyric cargo]

for newer accounts, one consideration might be that healerless teams need to have good damage.
longer clear time means more chances to get hit

[rugged sparrow]

it's also the fact that newer accounts won't have a lot of dmg

so squeezing all potential dmg is almost always better

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably have crafted one for the occasional Sucrose team, but I also wanted to r5 prototype amber

[rugged sparrow]

just have them all

perks of doing weekly boss every time

r5 Amber, Hakushin, Fruit of Fulfillment, Mappa

dont have Flowing Purity though cuz didn't need it

[lyric cargo]

for timed content like abyss? yeah. clearing in time for 3 stars would be hard to begin with

[opal surge]

I would craft weapons if we didn't need to farm rocks for them

My mualani has R1 ring of yaxche and that one was sent to us per mail

[rugged sparrow]

same

[opal surge]

Maybe that's why I hate playing her

[rugged sparrow]

don't have an HP scaling catalyst DPS

[rugged sparrow]

dw u'll hate her even more if u run Widsith

[opal surge]

True

[rugged sparrow]

rolls atk%
esc > retry

[opal surge]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was optimal for me to play R5 sac jade 2p/2p

[jolly junco]

🥀

[lyric cargo]

OXD not only hates Mualani but also Neuvilette, gatcha

[primal latch]

Saw a yt vid doing dire lava drag with mualani c0 r5 ring of yaxche

Cant even do fearless 😂

[lyric cargo]

not sure how much you've looked into it, but LDS might be the one where knowing mechanics is most important

[rugged sparrow]

indifferent towards Mua

Neuv is just boring as hell to play though

[cedar flint]

power washing but boring

[lyric cargo]

to me, it's always been about building an account that can tackle all kinds of challenges as well as possible

Neuv seemed too uniquely good in AoE to skip

well, now we have Stygian and AoE masters less

I could see skipping him now

[thorn bay]

I don’t want neu but I want a hydro dps with premium freeze team and keep going back to neu. I also don’t want ayato.

[crude dirge]

barbara

[rugged sparrow]

I personally pull chars I like / fun to play so
with enough vertical u can tackle content anyway

[thorn bay]

I’m not picking those mushrooms

I already have furina esco citlali

I could go for c6 r1 furina

[lyric cargo]

hydro dps means Mua, Neuv, or someone outdated

Mua is Mua, so that leaves Neuv

[thorn bay]

Jk I’m not doing that

[thorn bay]

Ye that’s y

[lyric cargo]

but the other part is, do you need a hydro dps?

[thorn bay]

More like want

Ooooo ik crit fesh

Jk

[crude dirge]

is burn vape a thing

[rugged sparrow]

knowing where you're coming from no, it's not a thing for you

u need Emilie

and your Arle won't be vaping, but the hydro unit most of the time

[tropic thistle]

!!!!!!!

[jolly junco]

the best vertical investment for stygian onslaught is chasca anyway

since you can just alter her element to deal with different matchups

and her lack of aoe doesn't matter if it's single target

[rugged sparrow]

imagine at some point u need 3 dendro teams

surely it won't happen...

[jolly junco]

im sorry I can never see a world where that would happen

[rugged sparrow]

ik but it'd be funny

[jolly junco]

what content in the game right now even needs a dendro team

[rugged sparrow]

nothing

[jolly junco]

yeah... and dendro region is over so I don't see that happening

[rugged sparrow]

well there's dendro hypo

still dk why we need dendro against it

"bring dendro loser"

other hypo doesn't require u to bring their respective elements

[tropic thistle]

Hyperbloom, Hyperbloom, and Hyperbloom yes ?!?!?!?

[obtuse shell]

how do i get this chest?? i swear i tried using the saurian and attacking underground but it wouldnt work 😭

[woeful narwhal]

Between Favonius Bow and Skyward Harp, which should I use on Yelan?

[rugged sparrow]

most of the time Fav

[woeful narwhal]

If I recall correctly there should be similar rock stuff on the ground in the area, and attacking them should unlock it

[rugged sparrow]

Harp is a nice crit stat stick, assuming you can reliably get her ult every rot

but it's basically just as good as Slingshot so lol

[lyric cargo]

Harp: 22.1 CR + 20% CD = 64.2% crit value
Slingshot: 31.2% CR = 62.4% crit value

Harp has good baseAtk which Yelan doesn't care about
if anyone else can benefit from it (Fischl?), I'd rather give Harp to them

My Yelan is usually on fav

[jolly junco]

fav is usually the default for solo-hydro teams

unless you're playing her with like raiden

and even then it can be good depending on the team

[rugged sparrow]

I'm guessing Slingshot is ranked slightly higher than Harp in build doc cuz you can take adv of the passive

[obtuse shell]

ohh thank you!!

[rugged sparrow]

60% dmg on barb

[jolly junco]

the passive on slingshot just applies to normal and charged attack damage so it sucks

[rugged sparrow]

ye just wondering why it's 1 rank higher

[tropic thistle]

Still stuck on chamber 1 in floor 12 !!!!!!!

[rugged sparrow]

which I assume is the dmg% for Barb (however many your Yelan does it, ig)

[thorn bay]

Who we talking about??

[jolly junco]

vlad decided it to do it that way because he thinks putting the others on yelan are a waste

[thorn bay]

Yelan??

[rugged sparrow]

?

I guess fair reasoning?

[jolly junco]

well it was disputed a bit but he felt as a theorycrafter he should do more than just rank things in terms of pure strength but also incorporate value

[rugged sparrow]

here I thought he includes random barb proc that u somehow fit into the rot

[jolly junco]

nope

[rugged sparrow]

huge 20k dmg a pop (I actually dk barb dmg at c0)

[jolly junco]

besides if you actually read the notes you would see the build guide does mention they are better

[rugged sparrow]

but muh dmg% on barb procs...

[lyric cargo]

surely they matter for Chasca 🤔
with her running double atk% mainstat

[rugged sparrow]

well Slingshot has pathetic base atk so

it's like half of Skyward

[lyric cargo]

oh yeah, I wouldn't consider Slingshot on Chasca

since the passive does not work for her, it's just a bad weapon there

[rugged sparrow]

eh the passive doesn't work for her?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, Amos as well

[rugged sparrow]

TIL

[lyric cargo]

there are no projectiles involved, she just points her gun at enemies and they take damage ^^

[jolly junco]

chasca's e shots are not consdiered projectiles

so they are not 'fired'

[rugged sparrow]

but you fire guns

Amos surprisingly ranks pretty high then without the passive

[tropic thistle]

Looks like I have to use different teams for each chamber lolololo !!!!!!!

[lyric cargo]

atk% stat stick ^^

[jolly junco]

well you do technically benefit from the first bit of the passive still

[rugged sparrow]

it's NA/CA dmg right

[lyric cargo]

oh, right

[rugged sparrow]

makes sense

[jolly junco]

12% at r1, yes

[bright cape]

are tighnari's burst and normals considered projectile?

[rugged sparrow]

where are you leading with this question

[jolly junco]

they are

[bright cape]

i am divided on using amos or 3 star bow on him

[jolly junco]

not that you use his normals but I assume you mean charged attacks, which are

[bright cape]

oh yah ca

[rugged sparrow]

Amos passive doesn't work on his burst because it's not NA/CA dmg

[bright cape]

oh ok

[jolly junco]

it's better than slingshot

[bright cape]

thanks

[jolly junco]

slingshot buffs wreath arrows but debuffs cluster bombs iirc

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[bright cape]

i have been using my amos on my fischl. but i recently got r5 on stringless. so i am thinking of giving her that

[thorn bay]

Wait, does slingshot work for Chasca???

[jolly junco]

no

[thorn bay]

Ok

[bright cape]

is r5 stringless better than r1 amos on fischl?

[strange scarab]

they literally talked about it just above

skull

[opal surge]

amos what the helly

[thorn bay]

ASTRAL VULTURE’S CRIMSON PLUMAGE it is

[opal surge]

slingshot wouldnt be good on chasca anyway

its near impossible to fit that crit rate

[bright cape]

that was before i asked r5

[opal surge]

me when my character starts at 95,4 crit rate

[thorn bay]

Yea I didn’t think of that

[jolly junco]

better in some teams, similar in others. regardless you can give it to fischl and use amos' on tighnari

[bright cape]

thanks

[strange scarab]

that wasnt even a reply to you

[bright cape]

oh my bad

[tropic thistle]

I might not 9-star this abyss bros...!!!!!!!

[bright cape]

is it out?

[tropic thistle]

No this current abyss lol

[bright cape]

oh ok

[tropic thistle]

I'm cooked this abyss

Unbuilt Mavuika and Skirk !!!!!!!

[bright cape]

those are the characters abyss is shilled for

try building one of them

[tropic thistle]

Abyss resets in 5 hours...!!!!!!!

[glad lance]

should i change my sands? i'm using overload for now but i'm pulling for citlali

[crude dirge]

em is basically dead stat but u need cr so change the team but keep the build

those sands are too bad

[bright cape]

r u serious

[crude dirge]

how does em help in overload

isnt it like 1k dmg addition

[opal surge]

Overload actually does a lot of damage but you are right that EM on mavuika doesnt do much in overload

Because Ororon has nearly all overload ownership

[viral mulch]

get a load of this over

[bright cape]

oh. i missed he was asking for overloaded

[crude dirge]

he just asks which is better
idk

obviously the em better but u cant really use them here

[quaint fern]

if they're going to go melt later then it's fine

[bright cape]

that's a very good sand for melt

[quaint fern]

for now, swap to atk sands

but yeah that's a pretty decent sands consider that it's on set

[bright cape]

oh my bad

[crude dirge]

i wouldnt even roll sands with double def and flat atk tbh

[bright cape]

i dunno how i didn't see his mesage

[quaint fern]

vro it's double crit

oh wait you mean the atk one?

[crude dirge]

which one has double def🥀