📌gimshim-help

[viral mulch]

im gonna also send abyss anyway its mavuika skirk solo

mavuika side is no dmg but o well

[strange scarab]

Before mavuika i do everything with arle

[jolly junco]

Also unlocking the skins is necessary so you no longer have to look at favonius sword on furina

[viral mulch]

so true

[strange scarab]

It all started when i got xianyun c1 which is my first ever limited cons

[jolly junco]

one of the moderators here also has done dire

but he's not especially active in this channel

[lyric cargo]

let me give you mine (also c1), together we'll have c2 r1

[strange scarab]

[viral mulch]

combined efforts

[viral mulch]

he in my top of my friendlist records like the whel he is

[bright cape]

yah. i see the skirk normals

[strange scarab]

I just dont know whether to give up on the never-pulling-weapon thing

[jolly junco]

when u get c1 xianyun for exploration but natlan characters are unmatched in natlan so she ends up unsured for it

[bright cape]

she will be used again after natlan may be?

[jolly junco]

who knows really

next region may also have character/region specific perks for movement/exploration

[swift galleon]

should i get blackcliff weapon or get intertwined fate?

[bright cape]

fate

[jolly junco]

[strange scarab]

Mav c6 xilo c2 xianyun c1 cit for exploration

[jolly junco]

I have 3 people in my friendlist who have done dire

[strange scarab]

Blackcliffs sucks shit

[viral mulch]

shes rly not the sharpest tool for solo but its more fitting hey

[swift galleon]

alright thanks

[lyric cargo]

exactly
c1 Xy saved my enjoyment of the game back then, but c1 Mav is just better in every way imo

[jolly junco]

😔

[bright cape]

so she doesn't get void rifts with cons?

[viral mulch]

u need reactions for that in any case

u can see me getting rifts while hitting the electro shields in chamber 2

[lyric cargo]

even outside Natlan, I'd rather use Mav tbh
one motorcycle flight takes her further than a Xy triple jump
(and then there's the bunny hop thing, if you're on even terrain)

[jolly junco]

2 of them big whales, one of them like, some cons on specific characters they like

[bright cape]

yah. i saw that

[jolly junco]

and then one friend who doesn't have any cryo characters built so they used c6 clorinde chevreuse overload to do fearless SSA:OD

[strange scarab]

what are the chances c0r0 skirk team against dire ssaod

[viral mulch]

you kinda need full r1 i think

[strange scarab]

Bye

[viral mulch]

well aside from furina but furina sig doesnt exist anyway

[jolly junco]

not sure what the minimum investment requirement is for that with a skirk team

took me 74s with c2 r1 skirk, c0 r1 escoffier, c0 r1 shenhe, c3 fav furina

[viral mulch]

at minimum u do need azurelight

[strange scarab]

Skull

Yea ill skip

i feel stupid investing everything on pyro

[jolly junco]

I mean how fast did you do fearless

[strange scarab]

220s

[jolly junco]

no I just mean the skirk team

[viral mulch]

no like overseer alone

[strange scarab]

100

[jolly junco]

too slow

[viral mulch]

yea no pack it up

[strange scarab]

Jajaja

[jolly junco]

aint happening

[strange scarab]

Im still baffled with my lds clear its such a stupid team

[dusty cape]

[late pebble]

Amos bow or r5 stringless for tighnari?

[manic copper]

Anyone can let me do 3x talent book for mavuika in your world? I havent opened the domain yet

[jolly junco]

Amos'

[crude dirge]

who do i use as last on dps bennet, kazuha, yelan team

[fringe bear]

the minimum investment requirement is c0r1 skirk, with furina esco and shenhe (everyone c0) shenhe can be replaced by charlotte

[opal surge]

can do without skirk r1

[rugged sparrow]

is there any non-r1 Skirk clear

[opal surge]

yeah

[fringe bear]

most likely, my skirk is top 20%, build can be improved

[rugged sparrow]

link pls

for clarification it's also c0 other 5-stars right

[opal surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAdBXCSZEs this is with homa on escoffier 0+0 on everyone else (finale skirk) there are true 0+0 skirk clears on bilibili i can look later

[rugged sparrow]

zamn

[opal surge]

you can save some time if you can rock up and n2c n5 n2 n5 n2c 2n5 the boss but I dont know if any of the clears are doing it

combo is a lil sus to do consistently

[rugged sparrow]

I dont even own Skirk to learn how to use her

but good to know

[opal surge]

Not using skirk burst in either form at all is stronger if you can play ceiling combos

[bright cape]

hi verian, have u also cleared Dire?

[fringe bear]

only skirk part

[fringe bear]

i don't have kinich or sig on mav

[bright cape]

same

but still i don't think i have good enough builds too

[opal surge]

LDS can be cleared with lots of different things

C0R1 Arle can clear tulpa

[fringe bear]

you don't have esco right? it's probably impossible without her for dire i think

[rugged sparrow]

can c0 Klee do it 🥹

[opal surge]

Klee can help on LDS

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

yep. no esco. only furina

[rugged sparrow]

just give up without Escoff

[nova swift]

Lego Dragon Samurai

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215423300583555102/1392743200309121145/hippo-shower.gif

[fringe bear]

if you can clear Fearless within 50-55 seconds you can clear dire, if it takes you 100 seconds to clear lvl5 there is no way you can clear lvl6) it's good to practice rotations in fearless

[bright cape]

yah. i wish there was no timer on dire.

just to have experience of killing it

and may be 3 star weapon skins

[fringe bear]

I wish there was a 10 min timer, if you fail in 2m you just don't get rewards

So you can still learn mistakes and check with timer

[bright cape]

yep.

but with tulpa, i don't think even 10 minutes makes any difference

he oneshots if we don't break the shield

[opal surge]

I dont think thats very fun design

considering SSAOD is literally completely AFK

The challenge is entirely in the timer the boss literally doesnt do a single move for 80% of his uptime

[bright cape]

that's subjective. but all bosses have been just hp sponges

[fringe bear]

well if you have some of-field damage to assist you shield is not a huge problem,but overall damage requirements is a problem, you need to have perfect builds

[bright cape]

yah. that's very bad boss design

[opal surge]

No but ssaod is literally stunned for 1:40 of his 2 minutes

thats not just being an HP sponge like the others

[opal surge]

shield is the problem

[bright cape]

he is also element restrictive

[opal surge]

a bunch of teams could clear tulpa but theyre failing the ward check

the only reason why dire tulpa is cringe is because of the ward

[crude dirge]

will plunge bennet actually work

[opal surge]

(and because it can RNG attackpattern and spawn tulpa into instant absorb)

[fringe bear]

that make scene, right

[rugged sparrow]

literally malded at this RNG

0 frame spawn + absorb

[opal surge]

I dont know why the spawn and the absorb isnt on a set timer

[viral mulch]

tulap

[quaint fern]

This was bull

[jolly junco]

@opal surge

(intentionally didn't use escoffier as that would make it too trivial)

[opal surge]

Oh thats a pretty cool run

never thought about trying double cryo bennett for ssaod actually, idk why

[jolly junco]

I tried double cryo with iansan but not enough damage, melt is the way

[pearl marsh]

How bad are these artifacts?😬

[jolly junco]

flower is ok, plume is bad, sands is mid, goblet is terrible, circlet is good

[pearl marsh]

How much attack do I need?

[jolly junco]

🖐️ 🖐️ this much

[noble vale]

1600-1700 I also have 1800 with her signature weapon

[jolly junco]

there is no such thing as "how much attack do I need"

more is better than less

[noble vale]

Also what about mine

[jolly junco]

ok flower, good plume (but off-set), mid sands, mid goblet (but on-set so redeemable), good circlet

[noble vale]

I could swap goblet that has 18% CDMG but it’ll drop down my CR

Your sands seems better than mine

[jolly junco]

this is honestly pretty good not a lot to criticise

[noble vale]

You’re right

[jolly junco]

nuh uh

[noble vale]

What’s up with having an off-set on plume or maybe flower? I thought i could use off-set at any piece

[pearl marsh]

I need you guys' luck😭 🙏

[noble vale]

I think I got no any good feathers for codex 😭

I think I do have off sands but not sure if i can swap it

I think is the ATK one that have almost 30% cdmg

Well

[pearl marsh]

At least ur elixirs and feathers gave you better substats, unlike mine😬 😭

[sleek tapir]

Guys I have 70 pity and guaranteed should I pull mavuika or wait?

[nova swift]

Not as cool as you

[late pebble]

Whats the chance of getting a standard in capturing radiance

[bright cape]

0

capturing radiance means u win

[late pebble]

No u can get a standard but u also get 2 of the same copies of the limited 5 star in the same 10 pull

[rugged sparrow]

...

I like how the counterargument is "just get more than 1 5-star in a single 10 pull bro"

imagine not getting 10 5-stars in one multi fr

in any case the chance is still 0% to get a standard unit from Capturing Radiance
if u get multiple 5-stars on a single multi that happens to proc Capturing Radiance, at worst you just can't really tell which featured 5-star you get through Capturing

but it's definitely not gonna be the one after you lose 50/50 since that one is guaranteed

[strange scarab]

did you just invent your own game mechanic

[late pebble]

No? There were videos showing if u get a standard u get 2 of the same copies

[strange scarab]

why are you basing it off a video and not what was actually written on the game

capturing radiance is for you to have a better chance at winning the limited 5 star

[rugged sparrow]

what happens is
standard
guaranteed limited
limited from CR

if that's the exact order when you get CR

I think you misunderstand how Capturing Radiance works

[rugged sparrow]

or well, the game can't really "tell" you which 5-star you get through CR assuming you get multiple 5-stars
which again, lol, the argument stands only if you're astronomically lucky

[strange scarab]

again, why are you using a single video to make your own conclusion

literally look up another capturing radiance video

[late pebble]

Why r u so triggered about this?

[strange scarab]

Why do you insist on being wrong?

[late pebble]

There were videos????

[rugged sparrow]

with a sample size of, 3

out of millions of genshin players

[strange scarab]

Did you even read the gacha rules

Hey i saw ufo caught on camera, must be real

[rugged sparrow]

and it still comes to the same conclusion
you need to win 3+ 5-stars in a single multi

assuming the same scenario you just gave

[strange scarab]

just the other day, saw chupacabra too

[hazy lotus]

me in 6.3 trust me

[late pebble]

U must have some massive ego to be a pos

[strange scarab]

U must not be able to read at all

[late pebble]

“Help” can u not read? Maybe actually try to help instead of criticizing

[rugged sparrow]

problem is just you can also trigger capturing radiance without getting a standard char with multiple 5-stars so

[strange scarab]

I am trying to help

[rugged sparrow]

[strange scarab]

by pointing out that you are wrong

[hazy lotus]

u asked a question got told what u didn't want to hear and then said no actually i saw a video

[strange scarab]

simple as that

[hazy lotus]

not sure what kind of help u were looking for

[rugged sparrow]

this scenario can also happen: u already happen to have enough "pity" saved for CR, did a multi and get 3 featured 5-stars
1st featured = won through CR
2nd featured = simply just won 50/50
3rd featured = another 50/50 won

so like...

[hazy lotus]

also couldn't that video be that the qiqi was the 3rd 5050 lost and then capturing radiance procced after that so it still shows on the meteors screen

[rugged sparrow]

after Qiqi it can't be CR

the 2nd Xilonen was the CR

[hazy lotus]

ye thas what i meant

or am i just misunderstanding what that guy is asking

[late pebble]

So that mustve been luck

[rugged sparrow]

that's... quite literally the conclusion yes

[rugged sparrow]

.

[rugged sparrow]

but this can also happen so

I wouldn't sweat the details anyway, just treat CR = won 50/50

[hazy lotus]

i always skip that screen so i will never know if i get cr anyways

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[violet cipher]

what do I do here?

[sleek tapir]

I can coop and try to help if you wanna but I’m not to sure either haha

[sleek tapir]

^^^

[violet cipher]

No, but thank you

[sleek tapir]

Oh ok

[strange scarab]

What are you going to do to get rid of that bug

[sleek tapir]

Oh it’s a bug

Um squish it?

[lunar swift]

Please explain how varesa is strong in razor language Whats her best team without furina? I have xianyun...

[lyric cargo]

do you have c6 Chevreuse?

[crude dirge]

varesa does big plunge dmg spam

[lyric cargo]

even without c6 it's one of her best teams i believe

[crude dirge]

razor enough?

[opal surge]

Stronger than what

[lunar swift]

No c1 Whats a good 4th slot if im running her with iansan and xianyun

[lyric cargo]

Furina

I'd say go for the Chevreuse team

[lunar swift]

Im using her for my skirk team

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it's nice being able to have multiple teams
Chevreuse is what you use when Furina isn't available afaik

well, Chevreuse is her main team really

if you don't have deep investment like c2 r1 Xianyun

[lunar swift]

So i need only pyro and electro? So varesa iansan chevreuse and?

[lunar swift]

Yeah shes c0r0

[lyric cargo]

Chevreuse wants you to continuously trigger overload to maintain her buffs and debuffs
so an off-field pyro unit

[opal surge]

Mav > Bennett*> PMC ~= xiangling

[lunar swift]

Guoba

[opal surge]

For last slot

[lunar swift]

Whats pmc

[opal surge]

Pyro Main character

He's generally better than xiangling here unless you like doing dynamic rotations

[lunar swift]

Il do xiangling iansan chevreuse then

[opal surge]

[lunar swift]

I dont even have the cons or taletns for pmc

[opal surge]

Cons don't matter

Nor do talents really

Pmc goes full EM here all their damage is overload

[lunar swift]

Is the dmg increase alot higher compared to xiangling?

[opal surge]

Level 90 would be good though

It's just much easier to play well

[lunar swift]

Yeah mines lvl 80

[lyric cargo]

it's funny how you go thinking 4pc scroll is the strength of PMC
but then, Iansan already has scroll and pmc is still good

[lunar swift]

Im not thinking at all but guobas kinda cute

[opal surge]

PMC does ~220k DPR here (albeit it's mostly OL ownership, and with xiangling varesa gets some OLs), can hold tom as opposed to xiangling pretty much having to go emblem to justify the ~230-250 ER she needs, and PMC doesn't force varesa to either extend rotation to 20s or to play a dynamic rotation where xiangling bursts later and later per rotation (which is possible as varesa can swap out freely)

It's not necessarily that PMC without needing scroll is amazing, but there are only 3 offfield Pyro options of which mav is the standout so all PMC has to do is to beat XL here

[lyric cargo]

ah, ToM. I should strongbox more of that set some time
for Furina as well

still strongboxing noblesse to give Bennett more ER right now, though I've probably hit diminishing returns
what I'm really missing is skyward blade

[rugged sparrow]

u have more ER than I do u can rest easy

I'm partly healmaxxing Bennett too so my ER a bit scuffed

[lyric cargo]

but stygian rot 1

[lyric cargo]

this is my old build (healmaxing)

did not matter in the slightest for LDS ^^

so I started ER-maxing instead

after briefly looking at adc

[rugged sparrow]

ig depends on team

[lyric cargo]

and enemy

[rugged sparrow]

Mav E into Bennett + Bennett E is enough for me

[viral mulch]

buh

[lyric cargo]

the build is just EM / EM / EM on tenacity, right? with EM subs on flower/plume and fav?
I'll see what I have

[rugged sparrow]

tf

[viral mulch]

mm fearless solo

[lyric cargo]

yeah, when he's with mav he's fine

I think SO might often split them up, though

giving Bennett to the weaker team so both can clear in time

[rugged sparrow]

ehh depends

for this SO in specific Mav with Bennett is more common

[lyric cargo]

there'll often be two teams who'd like Bennett, in SO

[rugged sparrow]

unless ur Mav is hyperinvested ig

[viral mulch]

use pmc trust

[lyric cargo]

she is, yeah. c1 r1 right now, might get c2

the other option is saving my guarantee and going for another carry like Chasca / Varesa

I feel like Chasca is nice for SO since she can often match her elements to be good against a boss with limiting mechanics
and Varesa is nice since she doesn't need Bennett / Furina / Citlali

[viral mulch]

i wouldnt rly recommend chasca pulling at c0r0 and also considering iansan is on this banner the options are either varesa dont rerun soon or varesa reruns soon without iansan on banner which both are

[lyric cargo]

mhmm, I'm only at c3 Iansan so far

despite 73 pulls on the last Varesa banner and 150 pulls on this Mav banner

I'd have liked to c6 her here

(70 pity now, after losing at 80 to Mona. So more Iansans cons are likely not happening)

I guess not getting Chasca / Varesa has the upside of maaaaybe getting them on chronicled wish at some point

but it'll probably be a year or more until we get a natlan chronicled wish ^^

[viral mulch]

thats unfortunate

[near prism]

I'm pulling for mav cuz I need iansan for varesa 🥀

Didn't even get c0 iansan on varesa banner

She's c1 rn, hope I can get atleast c2

[viral mulch]

did u not have her befor

[near prism]

Nope

[viral mulch]

e

[near prism]

I use like varesa xianyun furi ororon

And my ororon isn't even c6

[viral mulch]

tough times pulling for 4 stars

[rugged sparrow]

a

[near prism]

Yea

Mav is also useful since she's good for varesa too

[viral mulch]

stern central time

[rugged sparrow]

Mav is good for Klee 🗣️ 🔥

[viral mulch]

klee better than mavu cus can mavu throw 3 jumpty dumpties with sac frag on lava

[rugged sparrow]

SO TRUE

[viral mulch]

i think not

[near prism]

Real

@viral mulch apparently c2r1 Raiden+elegy Sara+c0 chev has been done on dire tulpa

Not tulpa

[viral mulch]

oh wait lava

[near prism]

LDS

Not tulpa

[viral mulch]

ok that makes more sense

[viral mulch]

while were on the topic im gonna send the fearless solo clip
lava fr skill issued me so hard

[rugged sparrow]

solo Klee when

[viral mulch]

solo klee on hard difficulty

[rugged sparrow]

also should've finished Tulpa with Arle ult for

[viral mulch]

i feel like i rarely do that cus i just forgor

[rugged sparrow]

ngl I think u can solo Klee on LDS

but I might just be coping

[viral mulch]

no shot

u still need your char to do dmg after some point

[rugged sparrow]

it's ok she does Kleelion dmg

[viral mulch]

the lion uses klee as support

[strange scarab]

how good is she for the lds gauge

[rugged sparrow]

Klee?

one of the better pyro units for LDS, if not the best depending

[viral mulch]

best

with sac frags

[rugged sparrow]

isn't Amber best if just purely off-field
but ig u can just use both

[viral mulch]

if you use both you have not enough team slots to do dmg

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

but nah klee should be the best

[rugged sparrow]

I've been using on-field Klee so I can't really say much for Sac Klee

heckin' love instant phase 3 when u just double E ult + Emilie casket in the background

and then u do 0 dmg

[viral mulch]

im pretty sure most c0 dire strat just bases sac klee as pyro slot

[rugged sparrow]

Clor doesn't right

it's XL Chev

[opal surge]

For overload where you have majority electro app yes

(varesa, clorinde, some raiden archetypes)

[rugged sparrow]

I think Klee Sac is more for c6 DPSes ngl

[viral mulch]

well over amber i mean

[viral mulch]

c0 varesa and kinich bases klee

[rugged sparrow]

really

thought Varesa just Chev XL and do DPS on 2nd phase

then try to adjust rot a bit so u get full rot again after downed

[viral mulch]

chev klee iansan

actually xiangling can be slotted there for her yea

but klee im pretty sure is better especially when you consider she just instafills chev burst at the start too

[rugged sparrow]

problem with Klee is just 0 dmg contribution ig which can be important for c0r1

not that Fav XL is any better

[viral mulch]

more time taken in rock phase is generally a bigger hit tbf

not like other substitute option rly contributes much

[rugged sparrow]

yeh

5 years of Genshin and we're still stuck on xbdit to save us

https://tenor.com/view/oppa-oppaxl-xiangling-pepe-w-origifs-gif-26073719

[viral mulch]

i did see most of the c0 dire clearers with kinich say that

you have to pretty much quickscope every shot or you wont have dmg

which sounds fun

[rugged sparrow]

a quickie hE

[viral mulch]

and most of them has never even bothered doing that or mavu n1cd before so just practicing that took a long time to mald

[rugged sparrow]

[jolly junco]

I got like super close with kinich c0 serpent spine, emilie c0 r1, amber c5 fav, dehya with deepwood

if I had crowned kinich skill would've killed

[viral mulch]

time to mald fr

[jolly junco]

I was indeed quickscoping every shot

[viral mulch]

also considering kinich is the one guy who would get hit on lava on lava phase u might have lost some ss stacks there

[jolly junco]

not much I can do about that

overall though didn't seem too bad in that regard

[viral mulch]

yea kinich sux

not only u dont have time to dash it doesnt even let u dash half the time anyway

[topaz cobalt]

hi guys how much dmg does a c0r0 mavuika do

[rugged sparrow]

... a lot

[topaz cobalt]

solo no buffs no food no nothing

[rugged sparrow]

why

[topaz cobalt]

how much exactly.,,

[rugged sparrow]

that'd still depends on your level of investment

idk why you're trying to measure a DPS without any buffs or anything

[topaz cobalt]

because i saw someone say its supposed to hit over 100k but mine only hits 80k

[topaz cobalt]

no i did a tiktok trend and then i got flamed

that’s why i’m asking 🥀

[rugged sparrow]

well that answers it

[topaz cobalt]

idk what’s wrong w my build tho

[rugged sparrow]

you can post and we can give pointers on what to improve

[topaz cobalt]

okay wait

[rugged sparrow]

(please use enka or similar sites)

[topaz cobalt]

usually i switch between serpent spine n mailed flower cuz the lack of cr but i still do arnd the same amt (i think) and yes im still farming the domain

[rugged sparrow]

you should be using Serpent Spine if solo no buffs no reactions
flower looks sad
feather is easily your best piece
sands kinda sad assuming solo no reaction
goblet looks serviceable ig
circlet looks sad for solo showcases

[topaz cobalt]

there’s specific stats for solo showcasing?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean EM is just dead for solo assuming no reaction

you just want to pump crit and atk

[topaz cobalt]

okay then thanks

[lyric cargo]

are you testing against tulpa, in stygian onslaught?

if so, EM is not dead

otherwise it probably is

[topaz cobalt]

no haha it was one of those “can my characters solo this boss” with no supports no buffs

[blazing cliff]

Hello. Im not really up to date on reaction changes, is vape arle better or melt arle?

[opal surge]

Melt

[lyric cargo]

melt received a big upgrade with citlali

[blazing cliff]

I have seen a team arle-xilonen-bennett-citlali, is that good? They ran citlali on Instructor

[lyric cargo]

in general:
pyro units melting get a 2.0x base multiplier (before EM)
pyro units vaping get a 1.5x base multiplier (before EM)

melt makes it harder to maintain the reaction, as it consumes the cryo aura very quickly
vape generally takes multiple pyro applications to consume the hydro aura

[lyric cargo]

instructor Citlali will have extremely high ER requirements

if you can manage them, it's likely best

but they're really very high

the other option would be petra Xilonen, noblesse Bennett, scroll Citlali
scroll helps Citlali with energy, especially in Xilonen teams

or just scroll on both Xilonen and Citlali if you want to avoid swapping artifacts all the time

[lyric cargo]

it's basically Mavuika's best team but using Arle instead
not quite as good as Mavuika, but still very strong

Arle needs to manage her pyro application to avoid pyro taking over
once the enemy has a pyro aura, cryo won't be able to take over again until the next rotation (when Citlali takes the field)

[blazing cliff]

Yep this is currently what i have on both of them in my mavuika team. I thought instructor citlali did not need high ER so i thought it would work hahaha

Maybe ill just stick to arle vape for now and just put citlali on mavuika

[lyric cargo]

what's nice about Arle is team flexibility, though she does want Bennett
so there's some tension in using both

(vape, melt, chevreuse overload are all viable arle teams)

[blazing cliff]

Thanks for the help

[blazing cliff]

THIS IS MY PROBLEM HAHAHA most of my teams want bennett as support

[lyric cargo]

generally there are

• Bennett Citlali teams
• Furina teams
• the few teams that use neither

[blazing cliff]

Mavuika, arle, and chasca

[lyric cargo]

all three are the first kind

Furina teams would be like Neuvilette or Skirk

[blazing cliff]

My citlali is also torn bc i also run her with skirk

[lyric cargo]

for the third kind, teams that use neither: Varesa / etc

[blazing cliff]

My only other reliable team that does not use furina and bennett is alhaitham hyperbloom

[lyric cargo]

(removed Hutao. Even though she doesn't need Bennett, she does want Furina. Also getting kinda dated as a unit)

[viral mulch]

what is this about i dont feel like backreading

[lyric cargo]

@viral mulch this

there's more above it, but it's less relevant

[viral mulch]

well any team then varesa overload uh skirk uh uh uh

[lyric cargo]

you have Nahida?

hyperbloom qualifies, yeah. With or without Nahida.
that archetype hasn't gotten any new units since Fontaine, though

[blazing cliff]

Yessss. Alhaitham-nahida-xing qiu-kuki

[viral mulch]

alhaitham generally works well altho recent time has been like the least friendly for sumeru dendros

[blazing cliff]

Bit of a prob for me here is i also run arle-xilonen-xing qiu-bennett

[lyric cargo]

it's possible to run Furina over Xingqiu there (shifting the damage share more towards Alh and less into bloom)
but it's a fine way to free her up

[lyric cargo]

no Yelan?
Arle does not like Xingqiu that much, he extends rotations iirc

[blazing cliff]

Was not able to pull yelan on her rerun and on chronicle banner

Maybe soon but too many good releases recently hahaha

[viral mulch]

tbf i would prefer xingqiu over yelan for that team in specific

[crude dirge]

should i get dehya on 5* selector for lyney team instead of xianling? (lyney, bennett, kazuha, pyro)

[viral mulch]

do u rly have no better options for your roster

[crude dirge]

on anniversary we get to choose standart 5*

which is pretty soon

[lyric cargo]

is your world grinded out, or you got exploration left to do?

[strange scarab]

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/cro-crow-whats-up-hello-whats-up-cro-gif-5604287398020128408

[strange scarab]

groundered

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-oguri-cap-dancing-umamusume-chibi-gif-10169214246627292150

[lyric cargo]

time to start 10 daily random events and elite co-op routes

[haughty lotus]

Thanks you too

[lyric cargo]

20k mora in 10 minutes is like nothing compared to what we get from events
but kinda what's left when that isn't enough

do you do investigation routes?

[strange scarab]

so arle klee bennett and then whos the last one for lds

[jolly junco]

for dire?

are you sure that's gonna work given the team only really has damage when its downed?

[strange scarab]

Fearless

i already gave up on dire

[jolly junco]

xilonen or kazuha then ig

[strange scarab]

still not faster than xl arle nahida raiden

[haughty lotus]

R

[strange scarab]

[viral mulch]

@rugged sparrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWP7vrgWYw

what the helly

[rugged sparrow]

🐄

[viral mulch]

statwise i think i could do that too but i dont feel like malding

[rugged sparrow]

imagine if last 3s RNG says "no" and it starts absorbing

[viral mulch]

[bright cape]

is vaersa the strongest electro dps now?

[viral mulch]

yes

[bright cape]

what rank is she?

skirk tier?

[viral mulch]

true

she is very good tho just hella underrated cus no one pulled her

[bright cape]

ok

might pull her next time

feels bad i got raiden

[viral mulch]

goes for all constellations
if anything at c0 shes quite cheap as well cus her team can just be 3 4 stars

with no broken supports shared from other teams

[bright cape]

what are those 4stars?

[viral mulch]

chev iansan xiangling

[bright cape]

oh ok

[viral mulch]

for whel soloing shes the second best dps in the game only topped by mavuika

cus mavuika just gotta be best dps at every category

[pearl marsh]

Can I run Mav, Xilonen, lvl 20 Kaeya and xiangling as a replacement team until I get Citlali?

[strange scarab]

no, kick xl

[pearl marsh]

Can I not just use her for pyro resonance and Pyro res shred or is it really worth switching bcs I have no-one else leveled apart from like sucrose lol

[viral mulch]

dont hurt her

[viral mulch]

do u not have bennett

[pearl marsh]

No lol

[viral mulch]

damn

[strange scarab]

*Kdot

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-notlikeus-kdot-not-like-gif-16820671552668706727

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrickcreepysmile-kendrick-lamar-smile-gif-11906780407366638029

[knotty fulcrum]

Chat, asking for a friend, who’s the beat dps for a starter player? Like AR 20 starter

[haughty lotus]

mavuika

[opal surge]

being a starter player has little effect ont he quality of a dps just dont pull for an inazuma dps

not that youc an right now

[rugged sparrow]

instructions unclear, pulled Cyno

[dapper heron]

Hey I just started a new acc since I lost my old due to hacking. And I got mavuika in this new acc. But am only ar 26 and can't do the ascension because well haven't unlocked that part of the map yet. Has any one (world lvl2) unlocked that specific boss, ( picture ). Can I join your world 🤓 (Asia)

Also guys I haven't played since the sumeru update cause ha I was hacked. What's new in the game?

[neon wave]

I doubt you'll find any wl 2 here, unless you luck out on someone's alt. We don't know your server either
After completing Mondstadt's archon quest a teleport waypoint unlocks in Natlan so it might be faster to just reach it

[dapper heron]

What no way, I haven't seen any waypoints in Nathlan that's unlocked. Also sorry am asia server

[opal surge]

there is a waypoint top right of natlan

if you have an idea of where top right actually is for natlan, i assume you may not have unlocked sumeru on the map

[dapper heron]

Oh shi I was looking at zoomed out map. Sorry guys. Just found the waypoints 🥹.

[neon wave]

npnp

[dapper heron]

Yep haven't gone to sumeru yet. Really miss my old acc. Am speedruning archon quests now.

Monstad was super fast. But liyue need ar ranks to advance so ya that's slowing me down

Multiple tickets to retrieve my acc was rejected. So sad

[strange scarab]

Your welcome

[neon harness]

U

[dapper heron]

Wtf. Just teleported to natlan and I teleported to some other dimension, fighting rifthounds.

[haughty lotus]

Aww thanks

[neon wave]

sorry to hear, make sure to keep track of the relevant info with the new acc
There's a guide here you can follow to see what info is relevant

[neon wave]

yeah that's normal, it's pretty short

[dapper heron]

Ah thanks a lot.

Holy shi I just transformed into some animal😂

[dapper heron]

I mean if only I had proof of buying that welkin moon 2-3 years ago. I would definitely get back my acc.

[neon wave]

yeah receipts are a big one, especially first purchase

[late pebble]

If i wanna build citlali like whats the MAIN thing i should focus on

[neon wave]

energy recharge and 4p scroll usually, then EM for some shield strenght

and r5 TTDS if applicable

[late pebble]

So i go for the maximum i could

[neon wave]

you go for as much ER as you need to be comfortable, and then everything into EM after that
her damage isn't particularly notable so making sure you have her burst every rot should be your main concern

[late pebble]

Whats her kit again bcs what does the em do

[neon wave]

mostly just makes her shield stronger

her shield isn't very strong to begin with though

[late pebble]

So it doesnt increase dmg..?

[neon wave]

Still some EM helps

it does but her damage isn't really worth building for
What you care about is her A1 and 4p scroll (and the fact that she enables melt if you're using her in a melt team)

[late pebble]

Whats a1

[lyric cargo]

there are actually more now, I didn't realize until I'd ran all the way to the Natlan stadium on my alt

[neon wave]

her first ascension passive

While Itzpapa is on the field, after nearby party members trigger the Frozen or Melt reactions, the Pyro and Hydro RES of opponents affected by that reaction decreases by 20% for 12s. Additionally, Citlali will regain 16 Nightsoul points. Nightsoul points can be restored this way once every 8s.

[neon wave]

is it just 2

or more

[opal surge]

theres more than one? what the helly

[neon wave]

wiki has 2

i wonder if it's updated

[lyric cargo]

I believe it's 3, but maybe someone with a fresh alt can check
one near the volcano region

[dapper heron]

Can someone join my wold and help me defeat this monster. Asia server uid-1817849114

[neon wave]

will not make an alt until there's a skip button so probably never

[lyric cargo]

if you're ar55, it's better to join a WL9 player
you'll get more drops that way

[neon wave]

you'll likely have more luck in maincord btw

[dapper heron]

Nah nah ah 26. 55 is my old acc. Lost that one. How do I change my tag

[neon wave]

in asia-coop channel

[lyric cargo]

if you're on PC, right click your name. then "profile"

[dapper heron]

Oh shit. Lol sorry

[lyric cargo]

no worries

[dapper heron]

Alr changed thanks

[late pebble]

Oh and whats the best stats citlali could have as in EM and ER

[dapper heron]

Suggest some teams please.

[fringe bear]

Mavuika bennett xiangling kaeya you can focus on upgrading these units, don't worry about the others

[vast torrent]

Mavuika+benny+kaeya+xiangling for now

[vast torrent]

OOO SAME MIND

[glad lance]

there is world quest connected to this tornado?

[neon wave]

the dirge of bilqis
but it doesn't remove it if that's what you're asking

[lyric cargo]

if this is for overworld exploration

then I'd go with Mavuika, Bennett
fill with chars to cover things those two can't handle
like pyro abyss mages or pyro slimes

you might also want to add chars for puzzles in the region you're exploring, like geo MC in Liyue

[crude dirge]

oh nah he got five star at ar 26?

[lyric cargo]

I got lucky on my alt and got Mavuika in ~50 wishes
I had enough to go to soft pity, but not if I lose 50/50

[crude dirge]

why is everyone so lucky

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215423300583555102/1392743200309121145/hippo-shower.gif

[valid anchor]

in what sense?

[crude dirge]

any

i got my first five star at ar 33 or 34

[lyric cargo]

if it helps, I lost the 50/50 to Mona at 80 pity on my main

I'd rather have lost on my alt and won on my main

[crude dirge]

i lost to diluc on hutao banner at 83 pity

that was THE FIRST TIME (and last) i was prefarming for a banner

[lyric cargo]

my start has been lucky, but my recent wish history looks pretty red

[valid anchor]

last one I lost became Mizuki, so...

[lyric cargo]

I think I'd prefarm resources that cost resin only if I can guarantee the char

[crude dirge]

nah only artifacts and materials

[valid anchor]

or if you have enough primogems/wishes to go bananas.

[lyric cargo]

yeah, that's "can guarantee", right?

[valid anchor]

well, it depends. Hope you like to play with your favorites.

[valid anchor]

yup. 200 rolls.

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-gamblecore-big-win-lottery-gazillion-gif-12152065220468400824

[valid anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-chapelle-modern-solutions-gif-15497728

[crude dirge]

i can barely keep 200+ primos
how the fuck do i get 200+ wishes

https://tenor.com/view/anime-rain-let-it-rain-monogatari-series-koyomi-araragi-gif-16422239

[lyric cargo]

the first step is to stop losing 50/50s
and manage how many chars you go for

[valid anchor]

willpower.

[crude dirge]

i dont go for anyone

whatever i get means i had to get and use

[lyric cargo]

then you have 300+ wishes saved, nice

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/musashi-musashi-miyamoto-vagabond-profile-picture-gif-26490168

[crude dirge]

i pull whenever i can

[valid anchor]

I'm tempted to either, go for Ineffa
or saving to 6.0 and press my luck

[crude dirge]

i barely look at the banners

[lyric cargo]

that'd be called "going for everyone"

obviously you don't have savings if you do that

[crude dirge]

going for anything

https://tenor.com/view/рофл-мем-курт-кобейн-gif-4254655042911682172

[valid anchor]

I'm going to pull for someone who picks my interest, that's all motivation I need.

[crude dirge]

yeah they dont rerun the ones i like

i wonder if we get albedo rerun before 6.0

[valid anchor]

then, go ahead and take some willpower, to save both primos and wishes.

[crude dirge]

or 7.0

[crude dirge]

im too desperate for anyone

[valid anchor]

6.0 is too close. I mean, that major version will come somewhat soon.

[crude dirge]

yeah and everyone we have now will just get powercreeped again

so no point in rushing trying to get current best chars

[valid anchor]

you shall check the official roadmap once gets published in HoYoLAB. AKA staying alert to preview programs, Developer logs and something which comes with that.

[crude dirge]

i will still keep pulling whenever i have opportunity

https://tenor.com/view/omori-fans-therapist-jackpot-gamble-gif-10238307016171025944

[valid anchor]

you need to set a goal to either

• save some wishes/primogems
• purchase wishes/primogems WISELY. Not draining your wallet.

get all means to get primos/wishes cheaper (and legally) as you can. For example, welkin, battlepass, or even the giveaways by being Xbox Game Pass Ultimate active subscriber (like me)

[crude dirge]

how does pure f2p with gambling addiction drain wallet

swiping couldnt ever be an option

[valid anchor]

you said it. excessive (uncontrolled) gambling becomes an addiction. worst case you may need professional help

[crude dirge]

not a single in game purchase even outside genshin

tho i dont waste anything

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-9156630486160992636

its not even possible for me to buy anything

[valid anchor]

then just get some willpower and save primogems, get some codes which can give you some else, and scoop all the resources the game has, to get all primos/wishes you can. Paimon bargains included.

[crude dirge]

im already buying with starglitter whenever i have enough

i dont scoop the map as i dont actually want anyone that they are giving

i just want anything at this point

not worth the effort

why would i pull for new meta characters?
to clear new harder content so i can get primos to get powercrept version of the character that i just got

[bright cape]

i get the sentiment

but pirmos are generally at lower difficulty levels

[quaint fern]

Well with stygian there's an incentive to invest horizontally

So move on and pull characters that give you a wider variety of DPS options

[crude dirge]

i think im just pulling for anyone or anything so i can try it out

[quaint fern]

Just bc mavuika exists doesn't mean that you needed to pull if you had arle

[pearl marsh]

Is Iansan just an electro bennet?

[crude dirge]

yes

[bright cape]

kind of. she also fills mavuika's nightsoul bar

[valid anchor]

hmm... yes, in a sense, but needs movement.

[crude dirge]

electro natlan bennett

[bright cape]

does iansan heal?

[quaint fern]

A little bit

[bright cape]

bennett's healing is one of the best

[valid anchor]

Iansan is like Sara for Shogun banners. She will always be there, you like her or not

[valid anchor]

yup, but it can be negigible.

and eeeverything based on Iansan's ATK, so, Iansan ATK must be pretty high.

[bright cape]

i am going for citlali n escoffier no matter who comes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304540031980933201/1389286008561864906/fufufatwae.gif

[lyric cargo]

I try to go for chars that seem like they might have good long-term value

[quaint fern]

I'll probably just get the next electro on fielders that comes out in Nod krai

Maybe someone early and then save for the archon-level support or w/e

[crude dirge]

everyone is getting powercrept atp

[bright cape]

i don't think we getting electro onfielder in nodkrai.
we got 2 back to back

[valid anchor]

Initially, I was pulling for Iansan due her JP VA (which I personally like; Ayaka Ohashi), but being versatile like is her now, is a plus

[lyric cargo]

stygian onslaught kinda sabotages this, giving greater value to chars I'd previously have skipped (like Kinich)

[bright cape]

nod krai will have anemo on-fielders

[quaint fern]

maybe I'll pull varessa ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Tho I don't really like how she plays

[crude dirge]

we sure dont have enough

[bright cape]

yah. feels very spammy

[valid anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/varesa-genshin-genshin-impact-cow-cowgirl-gif-3267339035421386044

[crude dirge]

we might get dainsleif hydro claymore

[bright cape]

i mean dps category

last one was hat guy

[crude dirge]

thats a driver

[quaint fern]

I just want to round out my team options, if we get a new good dendro on fielder I'll consider it

[crude dirge]

most anemo are buffers or drivers

[quaint fern]

I also don't have great hydro on fielders

[bright cape]

no neuvillette?

[quaint fern]

I could pull neuvi? He'd be pretty low investment for me

[bright cape]

[quaint fern]

I already have his artifacts ready and everything

[valid anchor]

Neuvillette is on another league as an on-field DPS.

[bright cape]

yep. u also got furina c2 n xilonen right?

[quaint fern]

Yeah

[bright cape]

then u r set

[crude dirge]

ayato-neuv-mualani
whos next

[quaint fern]

I could always just play the Skirk quick swap one as well

[valid anchor]

Mualani is more effective on vape scenarios, while Neuv is on another league. Ayato is decent on-fielder, but I think he can improve a bit more... I remember her initial artifact set was very mean on higher pings, so...

[bright cape]

i also need a good electro on-fielder

but there hasn't been a boss where electro on-field is necessary

[quaint fern]

I think you're overhyping neuvi

I don't have a good idea of the expected DPS tho

[bright cape]

nobody beats him on the ease of use

[quaint fern]

Mualani probably keeps up with him

[opal surge]

neuvilette is quite good

[bright cape]

his dps is not bursty though

[quaint fern]

Yeah this is a problem

[opal surge]

he sits at the same range as the natlan DPS while having lossless AoE and a ton of qol

[valid anchor]

well, that's true, he's quite straightforward.

[opal surge]

neuvi is really quite recommendable as a character

[bright cape]

his dps is sustained over long time. which sometimes can cause issue

[opal surge]

(he is turbo bricked in the current onslaught though)

[quaint fern]

I don't wanna pull him tho D:

[quaint fern]

Real

[bright cape]

did u like mualani?

[valid anchor]

Hydro charas probably I wouls suggest... Mona

[opal surge]

but this can be any of your characters

[quaint fern]

She's too clunky

[valid anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/mona-megistus-genshin-impact-genshin-impact-mona-mona-gif-21813886

[bright cape]

yep.

[opal surge]

one day you will wake up and your favorite will be completely unuseable in onslaught

it do be like that

[bright cape]

i already felt that with this one

[quaint fern]

And tbh I never even considered mualani bc I was still in the hold until ganyu rerun phase

[bright cape]

couldn't use neuvillette on anyone of them

[valid anchor]

well, that's bound to happen sooner or later.

[opal surge]

I sometimes forget I even own mualani

[quaint fern]

I main ganyu, it's been like this for three years now

[bright cape]

how about using her as cryo applier

[opal surge]

[quaint fern]

Naur

[bright cape]

i dunno how her off-field dps is

[crude dirge]

diona but 5* and no shield

[bright cape]

discoball

[opal surge]

diona but cryo app is off the charts

in comparison

[bright cape]

[opal surge]

Diona does 1 cryo app per 4 seconds

her burst ticks every 2 seconds but has standard icd

[quaint fern]

Tbh ganyu's kit is just turbo bricked, her cons incentivizes playing freeze but that's usually pretty bricked for endgame content and her melt teams never get supports bc hoyo doesn't want to release off field pyro applies for some god forsaken reason

Why did we get four pyro on fielders in Nathan and Fontaine

[bright cape]

next one is for sure cryo escoffier. trust

[quaint fern]

Look at citlali

[opal surge]

cryo escoffier

[quaint fern]

Why TF does she have no cryo shred 🤣

[bright cape]

oh i meant pyro escoffier

xiangling pro max

so ganyu can play melt

[quaint fern]

I need a Xiangling-Dehya hybrid

[bright cape]

aoe?

[opal surge]

IR

[bright cape]

all time at once kind?

[quaint fern]

Play XL > get IR otherwise you'll have a bad time

[opal surge]

bro is standing there walking 0,2m/s while zoomed in

[quaint fern]

The only melt team with decent range is probably mavuika burnmelt?

All other ganyu melt teams need you to stay pretty close to the enemy

[bright cape]

i was wondering what if the new shades are gonna buff old characters

[quaint fern]

This is less of an issue with c6 but still really annoying

[bright cape]

like time shade buff venti

[opal surge]

nice thatll be a venti buff in 9.5

[viral mulch]

venti alt

[bright cape]

certainty is better than none

will it work if difficulty of bosses is based on how new the character is?

like if u fight onslaught with pre 2.0 character, the difficulty is slightly lower

i dunno if it will make game even more chaotic

[opal surge]

characters arent actually linearly getting better though

regions are getting better on average but each region has standouts for the good and the bad

[quaint fern]

Can we at least get +3 NA in older characters??

[bright cape]

yah. that would make ganyu n yoimiya better right?

[quaint fern]

Well not just those two but yeah

[bright cape]

i want cons 3 and 5 to be selector

where we can select what to buff

also toggleable cons

[opal surge]

fk fixing older cons

why is skirk c3 and c5 swapped

[bright cape]

may be they wanted her to be burst first character

played in dual dps setup

[quaint fern]

So real

[viral mulch]

buff older chars pls a lot of em cant even do fearless

[crude dirge]

rerun albedo

[viral mulch]

bro loses his entire kit by mini tulpa breathing on it

[rugged sparrow]

bold of u to assume it needs mini tulpa to spawn

Tulpa hitbox is ridiculously big that it'll randomly clip Albedo's flower

[viral mulch]

i tested it for fun

its hilarious how even the bosses minion holds the ability to just disintegrate constructs

[final void]

PJWS or lumidouce elegy for Escoffier?

[bright cape]

lumidouce

[lyric cargo]

Ifa can be run with atk% / anemo dmg% crit, and 4pc codex

but the thing is, that's more of an abyss / theater power level. I have a hard time seeing myself clearing fearless in Stygian Onslaught with that.

lack of ability to vertically invest

[final void]

oh does PJWS effect not trigger with skill hits

[viral mulch]

its any hit but cant proc off field

[final void]

alr ty ppl

[viral mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-discord-gif-24306382

[bright cape]

i didn't know that

i just saw pjws was 2-3 tiers below in google docs

[final void]

lumidouce aesthetically more pleasing anyway

[bright cape]

[final void]

ah which doc is that

[bright cape]

https://tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds

[small pond]

i feel like my clorinde doesnt do a whole lot of dmg with her e skill how can i improve her

[normal sequoia]

what team do u play her with?

[opal surge]

Talents are low and artifacts are pretty underwhelming

[plucky dagger]

help wat team do i run with nilou and nahida

[small pond]

shud i get her cd up to improve them?

[small pond]

nahida kazuha and fischl but my fischl is wip

its prob my talents tho ☹️ im too broke to lvl my chars to 90

[normal sequoia]

Nilou, Nahida, Yelan, yaoyao

[bright cape]

i would start by replacing that 4 star circlet

does clorinde get extra crit rate from her kit?

[strange scarab]

who do you got

[plucky dagger]

i got furina

um thats abt it

[plucky dagger]

any other dendros i can use ?

[strange scarab]

name the 4 stars as well

Me i'd usually just use EM barbara driver i dont like onfielding nahida

[small pond]

yepp

[small pond]

but i shud keep cd as the main stat on the circlet eight

just get better substats?

[thorn bay]

So if I already crowned my chasca but got c3 do I need 2 more crowns??

[neon wave]

no, the talent goes up by itself you don't need to level it

if it's already at 10 it'll go to 13 when you activate the constellation

[sleek tapir]

Need help with 3x domain runs 646126177

[normal sequoia]

Baizhu, collei, kirara,

[outer copper]

Hi, can someone help me with something?

[neon harness]

Just ask

[outer copper]

I'm creating a freeze team with zhongli, chongyun, rosaria and kokomi. My kokomi and zhongli are fine, but I'm currently building chongyun and rosaria and I want an opinion on what I currently have and what I can do to improve them.

[strange scarab]

[outer copper]

This was chongyun's previous state, not built, had random shit on him before.

I don't really want chongyun to be a dps, I just want him for his e skill so rosaria can have the cryo infusion

Can I please have some feedback?

[neon harness]

Zhongli is completely useless in that team, u can switch him out

Also what ar are you

[thorn bay]

But it says “maximum upgrade level 15”

[neon harness]

Maybe for later content or something, but other than that, 10(highest talent w/o cons) +3 is 13 after cons

[thorn bay]

Hmm

[neon harness]

:nowaying: 10+3 is 13
Meth moment

[haughty lotus]

Language.

[neon wave]

it says that without cons too
It just means that if we ever get buffs like childe +1 to na talent or skirk +1 to skill talent (or in some future event) they'll never be able to stack past 15
At a baseline you can get up to 10 without cons and up to 13 with cons

[outer copper]

Oh, I just use zhongli for his shield, I'm AR 57 right now, i think.

[neon harness]

Go on kqm and tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds and have a blast

Weapon > character and talent level > artifacts
Farm in that order

[outer copper]

What is kqm?

[lyric cargo]

since he's using fav sword, try to give him more crit rate

[lyric cargo]

It's https://keqingmains.com/, a site for character guides. They also host a bunch of game research

[strange scarab]

Pikeli moment

[outer copper]

Thank you!

[lyric cargo]

for a first look, I'd recommend https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[outer copper]

Oh, also quick question, does chongyun work well with ayaka? Or is she better off with a different cryo support?

[neon harness]

Eh who 🤠

[strange scarab]

the latter

[neon harness]

Ayaka is better off which other people, who do you have? Screenshot is fine

[strange scarab]

typically chongyun dont fit in any teams

[neon harness]

chongus burst dps

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/chongyue-arknights-chongyue-bean-arknights-bean-bean-gif-15890414400781532136

Soon™

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/morgon-freeman-true-bugburger2-true-fact-checked-by-patriots-wholesome-reddit-gif-13662132864673041294

[outer copper]

Oh, no, I'm just asking cause I wanna get her on my main account eventually and this freeze team I'm making is just temporary until I get her, so I kinda just wanna know who she would work well with in future freeze comps

[strange scarab]

Definitely not chongus that is

i wouldnt even play him temporarily

[outer copper]

I don't have a lot of cryo characters at the moment, only kaeya, diona, rosaria, layla, and chongyun are my current cryo characters, and I don't wanna get two cryo 5 stars just for ayaka to work well, so, I guess a better question would be: which of those cryo characters would work well with ayaka?

[strange scarab]

Unfortunately she does need them to work well

Thats the cost to pay for playing freeze

[outer copper]

I don't mind trying to pull a 4 star cryo character that I don't have, but I'm free to play, so I have very limited resources, and I don't want to waste what I currently have on 2 five star cryo characters, I'd much rather prefer getting ayaka and another 4 star cryo character rather than someone like shenhe since she doesn't really suit my fighting styles.

[strange scarab]

Dont pull shenhe pull esco

[versed marsh]

fufurina

[strange scarab]

esco and rina are the reason why you'd play freeze in these days

you also shouldnt pull for specific 4 stars but not the 5 stars on the banner

[outer copper]

Didn't know that, I just came back from a full year of misery at my university, so I'm still kinda stuck in 2024 team comps in my head

Is esco the one on the current banners?

[strange scarab]

No thats emilie and mavuika

you can see their names

i also dont think a cryo char would be green or red

https://tenor.com/view/charlotte-fontaine-genshin-impact-cute-oh-my-god-gif-5888976557954736277

[outer copper]

Yeah I wasn't around for the past year very much, so I have missed out on a lot

[lyric cargo]

every cryo carry kinda wants Escoffier + Furina now
the last slot has some flexibility

I'd probably go for Skirk rather than Ayaka, but I pull for meta

[outer copper]

Arent there like 'dupes' of those characters I can use?

[versed marsh]

constellations
they gib power ups

[lyric cargo]

the problem is powercreep, newer chars are much stronger than older ones

that's the reason I'd use Skirk

I do wish they'd buff older chars. their constellations don't compare to today's either

[neon wave]

for freeze, not really
Escoffier is very good and part of her appeal is that she enables Furina

without her freeze teams struggle to keep up. You can still use them but you'll feel the difference

[outer copper]

I see. I just leveled up chongyun's burst skill and tried out the team against the ruin guard in the mondstat ruin, and the team took the it down very quickly, must quicker than I imagine and the numbers weren't that bad, thats against a lvl 80 ruin guard, is that a good test of my team?

[neon wave]

when people talk about teams being "good" or not the meter is usually abyss 12 (stygian d5 now, which is harder). For overworld, almost any team goes and if that's what you're interested in you don't really need to care about what would be more powerful
But there's a lot of difference between overworld, even at max WL, and endgame scenarios

[outer copper]

I'm just creating this so I can do the henxenzercal trial thing quest whatever it's called

When I first did it, I ignored the cryo and hydro suggestion and just went in with my regular hyperbloom team and I had a lot of trouble, so I'm just doing this so I can finish that

[lyric cargo]

if your goal is just a strong team, I'd see if you can get Mavuika

she's quite good, both for combat and exploration

[outer copper]

My goal is a strong freeze team, isn't mavuika Pyro?

OMFG I DID THE HEXENZERKIAL TRIAL WHATEVER ITS CALLED WITH MY FREEZE TEAM AND I ACTUALLY DIDNT DIE😭😭😭 IM SO GLAD I CAN FINALLY REST

[lyric cargo]

ah. then Escoffier Furina would be best, yeah

it sounded for a moment like you're just trying to beat the content and needed a strong team

and Escoffier / Furina aren't on banner for a while I think

so they wouldn't have solved this immediate need

[outer copper]

That's fine, besides, characters like Furina and the hydro dragon character, I forgot his name, I'm not a huge fan of their play-style, so I wouldn't even have enjoyed it aswell and understood it compared to the one I just whipped up.

[lyric cargo]

(the hydro dragon character is Neuvilette)

I see!

When it comes to supports, people are usually willing to pull whatever makes their favourite shine the most (edit: since they don't have much field time)

[outer copper]

Yes, that guy. My God I forgot a lot😅

[noble vale]

For endgame content do I need to build every character i have in my account or get new/old characters for support and buffs for your dps choice or other? Because there are some characters I need to clear or struggling with current and switch to other teams but I don’t have anyone that can help or not fully build yet so what you think?

Since the new endgame dropped and if spiral abyss needs 8 characters with proper build or optimized then new one needs 12 to fight 3 bosses

[lyric cargo]

stygian onslaught requires 3 teams at minimum, though it has bosses with strict elemental requirements.

It's unclear to me how reliably an account with three well-chosen teams will be able to beat every onslaught. You might need to keep pulling one new char per game version.

Always full-clearing Theater requires you to have 22 chars for any combination of 3 elements, though they don't all need to be built.

7 of each element would be enough, as 7x3 + traveler = 22

though you also need to have enough carries within those 22, built well-enough, to form ~5 teams

[lyric cargo]

for difficulty 4, you can just do co-op. the difficulty 5 reward is locked behind doing a single-player clear

[candid storm]

Can anybody help me with Stygian Onslaught strat please?

[jolly junco]

post a picture of your character options

[jolly junco]

this is fearless?

kinich, emilie, klee, dehya (deepwood) should work well for lava dragon statue

klee just used to fill up phase 1 gauge fast, you can give her TTDS as well, and she's c2 so def shred

tulpa you can just mav, xilonen, citlali, bennett

[candid storm]

It's Dire

[jolly junco]

hmmmrge

[candid storm]

Okay I'll try that but my Kinich does terrible damage

He's C0R0

[jolly junco]

hold up

I thought this was fearless, that team prob be too tight to work at your investment for dire

[opal surge]

Raiden OL clears this or

[jolly junco]

raiden, sara, chev, xiangling prob for your best bet

[jolly junco]

they're like a bit of damage off

but pretty sure sara is better than bennett here so

[opal surge]

Yeah she should be

Raiden can also just randomly gain damage by abusing retry button

[strange scarab]

do i leave skirk and esco burst at 8 or 9 cuz i dont know what to do with talent overflow

[opal surge]

But TBF Im Not sure you should be ending in the state you're currently ending in

It looks to me like you're breaking too fast?

Getting a 3rd full Res state is really bad, you can milk the halfresstates more

[jolly junco]

problem might be solved by sara swap anyway

[opal surge]

True

[candid storm]

What's the rotation?

[jolly junco]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16tK7zUEsK/?vd_source=6c2a8c784a4dad54181e48660e4848af

aside from filling energy during p1 its pretty standard rotation stuff

[candid storm]

Thanks I'll try it

[jolly junco]

wonder if my c2 r0 raiden can without being carried by yae miko

[candid storm]

It seems like they're using the catch on Xiangling

should I swap out her fav?

[opal surge]

She needs to be able to burst at the start

If you can achieve that without fav then yes

[candid storm]

Not sure, I'd give Sara Elegy tho

[jolly junco]

xiangling can do a good amount of damage during the stunned phase in this team

[opal surge]

Lowest I've seen was Jamie's c2r1, but that was a 120s clear om

[candid storm]

R5 Skyward Spine or R5 Homa? These are her current stats with Fav

With Homa she's down to 200 ER

[jolly junco]

prob gonna need an ER wep

EL/catch/fav (if you must)

obviously prio EL on raiden if you only have 1 copy

[candid storm]

Only one copy sadly

[opal surge]

You basically can't afford to not have xiangling burst past 10s in

[candid storm]

Is R5 Catch better than R5 Skyward Spine?

[opal surge]

It's kinda bricked if she still doesn't have it then

[jolly junco]

not sure, probably pretty similar

[candid storm]

I must be doing something terribly wrong

[jolly junco]

unless your builds are off, yea

you could try checking the video again I suppose to see what they are doing differently

[jolly junco]

raiden cr is a bit low and sara build could be better but I think it should be doable

maybe noblesse on sara since you're already reducing her damage a bit using elegy on her

[candid storm]

That's the closest I've gotten so far, I guess I could try giving Sara noblesse

Ugh this is so annoying, can I stream for anybody so you could correct me?

Why is his Chevreuse wearing the natlan set?

[rugged sparrow]

12% dmg

SoDP is like, not a really good set

[candid storm]

Is it better than SoDP?

[rugged sparrow]

it's around equal with totm/noblesse

depending on overall buffs too

[strange scarab]

considering sodp is somewhat worse than clam probably

[jolly junco]

probably not on LDS since you cant proc it during phase 2

[candid storm]

Maybe I should give Chev ToTm then ig?

[rugged sparrow]

definitely not totm Chev

[candid storm]

Then which should I go for?

Noblesse is on Sara

[rugged sparrow]

realistically it won't really matter

you're like 15% off

[candid storm]

So I can't clear then? rip

[opal surge]

Which break is this?

[rugged sparrow]

probably can but idk how you do rots so

[opal surge]

As in do you fully break once, twice or thrice?

[candid storm]

Can I stream for any of you?

[opal surge]

I'm at work

[rugged sparrow]

OL team can only break twice no

[candid storm]

I think I do it twice

[opal surge]

Twice but you ended during a midres stage?

[candid storm]

Yeah Im probably doing something wrong

[rugged sparrow]

just record ig

[opal surge]

You're breaking too fast

Just get XL burst in the first 10 seconds and rotate normally after

Every time you enter the full Res phase you lose 10 seconds

It's mandatory to not enter it a third time

Unless you can fully break a third time

It's full Res (start phase where he's covered in rocks) -> mid Res (still has the bar, but takes damage) -> broken ( takes full damage) repeat

[candid storm]

I'll try recording ig

[opal surge]

You want to kill on or as close as possible to the end of the second broken phase

[candid storm]

I'm trying to do normal rotations, Xiangling's burst is available around 13-14s tho the first time

[opal surge]

You can prob get it earlier if you drop guoba > chev hE > back to xiangling and catch the first guoba particle but 13-14s is not terrible

But getting XL burst earlier made a massive difference for my lds clear

[candid storm]

Sorry for the shit quality I dont have Nitro

[opal surge]

Oh you're breaking too slow

[strange scarab]

Okay finally i got 80s on ssaod do you think i have a chance

[opal surge]

I think you would clear if xiangling simply had burst from going raiden e > Sara > chev hE ( or xiangling guoba > chev hE funnel ) > xiangling + if your chev had burst soon after as well

Apart from that your chev triple Es are pretty slow not that it matters too much and to me your raiden combo looks different (?) but I could be wrong about this I don't play raiden myself

But really it's just your break is awkwardly timed

On the first recovery XL doesn't have burst ready to go because everything is delayed by a bit and you don't get to play your second break phase

[opal surge]

Nah prolly not

Unless you can play better than this

It's almost twice as much HP and by extension you should be able to clear fearless in roughly half the time

[candid storm]

Recording lagged me out a little which is why Chevy's burst is slow, besides that yeah
Also ain't Raiden's combo just NA>CA?

[strange scarab]

damn i was only able to shred 60% of its hp in 120s

[dusky oxide]

Is the second boss actually unbeatable without chev I'm going crazy 😞

[opal surge]

N1C is the comfiest yeah but it looks slow? But maybe sideproduct of recording or I could just be wrong

Aren't you losing a n1c?

[strange scarab]

Stygian?

[dusky oxide]

yeah the dragon thingy

[opal surge]

Isn't it supposed to be 6xN1C?

[candid storm]

Ain't sure really

[strange scarab]

im pretty sure that boss has the widest options of team to beat it or if not, tulpa

[opal surge]

What difficulty?

[dusky oxide]

fearless

[opal surge]

Plenty of non chev teams can clear

Burning arle, kinich, mualani, navia

Chasca

[strange scarab]

Its usually chevload, burn, mua, navia, uhh

[opal surge]

Even stuff like melt mavuika can

[dusky oxide]

I only have navia out of these