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lyric cargo
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Lemon had a video demonstrating it, is it unlisted or taken down?

jolly junco
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it's unlisted but still on youtube

rugged sparrow
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Layla can be faster than Yelan for SSAOD clears, might be worth considering if you're struggling

jolly junco
rugged sparrow
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gradon?

jolly junco
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gradon

rugged sparrow
jolly junco
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navia (c0r1), xilonen (c0 fav), bennett (c6 skyward), xiangling (c6 fav), time is 98s

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so even a bit less investment is fine

lyric cargo
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ideally you want a third cryo for the automaton, I think
like Mika / Charlotte / shenhe

I managed to do it with 2 though, just had to be careful it never gets to build up its bar
2 cryo can keep up with its buildup, but not deplete it fast

rugged sparrow
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Layla erasure

lyric cargo
azure raptor
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Plus she got tenacity

rugged sparrow
rugged sparrow
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specifically for SSAOD Layla is better just because the stupid gauge

jolly junco
rugged sparrow
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but holy fuck 116s with c2 omegadance

azure raptor
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I love how all this time I've been talking here there was some random person fishing in my world 😂
And he isn't done yet

jolly junco
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xiao can use xianyun still, wanderer can't use furina

rugged sparrow
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yeh that's why Sunfire

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the next best alternative

elder bluff
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you let people in your world?

rugged sparrow
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granted needs c4 Jean (and FS as a bonus)

jolly junco
azure raptor
jolly junco
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my jean is c4

rugged sparrow
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you do have FS too right

jolly junco
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I am STOOPID

rugged sparrow
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filthy 200 ER FS Kazuha puga

jolly junco
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I literally just forgor jean exists

rugged sparrow
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is ok

elder bluff
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because the kaveh incident is reported to happen again

jolly junco
elder bluff
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mostly in EU

rugged sparrow
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my Jean rn is also on the lend-a-fav duty

thorn bay
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How much er do I need for Xiang ling (I’m thinking like 220-250??)

rugged sparrow
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when I want fav sword I borrow hers

jolly junco
elder bluff
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and they have some tricks to keep you in death loop as well

azure raptor
jolly junco
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scaramid deserves justice

rugged sparrow
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1 more const before I can do 100% DR memes

crude dirge
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i dont even have jean c0

lyric cargo
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(I wonder if 100% DR stops the oneshot from tulpa)

azure raptor
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Thanks everyone for the advices, it was really helpful, especially for the navia teamKeqingHeart_pixels

opal surge
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big

azure raptor
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What the hell is dire difficulty?

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And there is one after it?

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Holy mother of Jesus I'm supposed to beat those too?

lyric cargo
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it's either for whales or for magicians like Sensi who somehow do it at dolphin level kek

azure raptor
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Man F those skins I'm ain't spending a single more minute on this mode

lyric cargo
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c2 r1 is about the investment level I'd expect to be needed

azure raptor
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I had to change artifacts about 4 times

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My builds are a mess

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
azure raptor
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Yea a feather that will 100% go to crap rolls

lyric cargo
azure raptor
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I don't know why I find theater easier than abyss

elder bluff
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because it is easier by design

azure raptor
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Less HP? Or some sort of special mechanic?

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I know the character rng is a pain

lyric cargo
elder bluff
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because IT has a lot of buffs that allow middle invested teams do a lot of damage

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abyss has less buffs and more cater to current banners

lyric cargo
elder bluff
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SO has 0 buffs and additional mechanics even more cater to current banners

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also bloated HP

azure raptor
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Imagine, for the next SO they bring the natlan boss that makes 2 pillars(idk his name) but instead of 2 it makes 4 or 6kek

lyric cargo
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IT does often force you to run suboptimal teams, like Skirk without hydro. Kinich without pyro.

All those are possible in theory, even though since those chars are still new they've always gotten a special guest to work with at least

elder bluff
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so no other char can reach it apart from Children of Echoes, Mav, Chasca and Kinich

azure raptor
lyric cargo
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you can fly from one to the next, though

elder bluff
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we'll see if the bosses in SO with mechanics that encourage you to spend money on the active banners; not only the characters but also the cons

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it already does in 5.7

azure raptor
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Fearless is good for me

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I don't have the motive or the money to spendkek

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Mostly money

elder bluff
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rewards in Dire have a timer so you don't need to care if you don't flex

lyric cargo
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but it turned out more chars can do Lava Dragon Statue than I thought

wild meadow
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FINALLY I GOT ITTTT, thanks @jolly junco @rugged sparrow

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now will suffer more here

rugged sparrow
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epic

rugged sparrow
wild meadow
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at least i can clear the 3rd one

rugged sparrow
opal surge
thorn bay
bright cape
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i have seen this a couple of times

elder bluff
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not with raiden

opal surge
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what is this for

bright cape
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tulpa

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does the number of hyperblooms increase?

opal surge
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not meaningfully a character that does damage in place of either raiden or kuki is preferred

bright cape
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oh ok.
i tried with alhaitham, nahida, fischl and kuki.
the damage was not enough.

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may be it was coz of c0 nahida

opal surge
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I have an alhaitham clear like that but it was not very comfy yeah

bright cape
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my main issue was mini-tulpas being born mid alhaitham combo

hearty scarab
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best characters and teams to build (want smth east to play)

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playing after years

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
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there's probably a Hutao + Bennett + VV swirl team in there, since you don't have a second hydro unit (only Xingqiu)

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should probably build Fischl, she's a good general off-field dps option and uses a set you'll get for free from building Furina

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could consider Sucrose for swirl + EM buffs
something like Hutao, Xingiqu, Bennett, Sucrose (?)

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I recommend Sayu for overworld if you need to get from A to B fast
not great for combat, though. And doesn't need to be leveled much as a taxi

hearty scarab
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i dont have furina tho...

strange scarab
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Not for now

lyric cargo
hearty scarab
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okay so for now grind baal and team

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and hutao

glass finch
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hello anyone on asia server with well built characters for stygian onslaught?

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asking for help on fearless difficulty

rugged sparrow
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u gotta solo for fearless if u want rewards

dense birch
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mora Reply/ping me to earn 142.4k Mora in 70-80 minutes mora

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Time/World: 11-18 Minutes

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200's - 61; 400's - 9; 600's - 19
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neat onyx
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Can someone help make a team for Skirt

strange scarab
sour birch
strange scarab
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Hello cro

cedar flint
neat onyx
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Currently i'm using sucrows bennett and layla

cedar flint
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ye replace both and only use cryo and hydro

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she only works in freeze teams

neat onyx
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most of my buffers are 4 stars.Don't have any of the fancy five star buffers

cedar flint
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anything would be better than those 2 on her team but if you show me your cryo and hydro characters I can recommend some

neat onyx
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Ok

crude dirge
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barbara layla diona/rosariaHeheSmile

neat onyx
crude dirge
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barbruh ttds and maybe mylelith layla is 2pc hp hp diona or rosaria on nobless

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oh nvm

valid anchor
viral mulch
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bjoing

crude dirge
neat onyx
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Btw I'm free to play

cedar flint
crude dirge
neat onyx
valid anchor
cedar flint
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xingqiu Mona Mika can work tho

crude dirge
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layla instead of mona if calamity of eshu i think

cedar flint
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that’s why I asked weapon

valid anchor
# neat onyx

for Skirk? you have a sample team, technically. Layla, XInqiu, Candace. I think.

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But, Calamity of Eshu is like a must there.

crude dirge
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what she does😭

cedar flint
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I think she buff normal attack dmg scaling with her hp

crude dirge
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oh yunjin but hp?

cedar flint
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kinda i think

crude dirge
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lemme see scalings

cedar flint
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it’s not much tho

valid anchor
crude dirge
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i dont think it stacks

cedar flint
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why would Candace use mililith

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her skill only hits once

viral mulch
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milililililith

neat onyx
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Sword user

cedar flint
# neat onyx

no I asked what sword you plan to give her to use but it seems like you probably don’t have anything good

crude dirge
cedar flint
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well you can probably try crafting finale of the deep

crude dirge
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if she has hp sands its like 25k?

valid anchor
crude dirge
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so 12%

neat onyx
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I have one five star weapon

cedar flint
cedar flint
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you probably would give her noblesse

cedar flint
crude dirge
valid anchor
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Layla uses Milleth. Candace uses Noblesse.

neat onyx
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I don't remember it called but it is from the Standard banner

cedar flint
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if it’s a standard 5* sword tho probably still just craft finale of the deep

valid anchor
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XQ uses his standard set. kek

crude dirge
lunar swift
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What Battle pass bow for lyney i have prototype cresent now

valid anchor
lunar swift
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Which is neeweerr

cedar flint
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even tho not a fan of both

cedar flint
valid anchor
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ah, PJC.

lunar swift
cedar flint
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idk

neat onyx
cedar flint
valid anchor
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you'll need midlander billets, btw.

cedar flint
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this one

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well this is the effect at least

neat onyx
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Sadly I don't know how to get the blueprint for it

cedar flint
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you just need to talk to the forge and bring the stuff they ask for

neat onyx
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Ok

valid anchor
neat onyx
# cedar flint this one

I think I have other weapons that do the same thing as basic attack and give me the second day of algebra attack

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Let me seen

valid anchor
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  • the only downside of Eshu is a Shield. That's why Layla goes.
  • the only downside of Finale is to get rid of the Bond of Life, you'll need a healer.
cedar flint
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well sustainability will be nice either way

valid anchor
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  • Finale and Eshu are 565 base ATK + 27,6% ATK stat.
    very decent beatsticks.
cedar flint
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I don’t think he got that event sword ngl

neat onyx
cedar flint
neat onyx
valid anchor
neat onyx
valid anchor
neat onyx
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I tried to do that , but the game just lagged so much that I couldn't even Play the game

valid anchor
neat onyx
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Usa

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Also doesn't really help that.I was playing on my iphone

valid anchor
# neat onyx Usa
  • Genshin Cloud > NA node.
  • GeForce NOW > your closest node.
  • Xbox Cloud Gaming > Your closest node (or defaults to East Coast)
neat onyx
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Ok

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I am now going on the grind to get the sword

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Also we haven't really established What team should I work with

valid anchor
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and get midlander sword billets.

neat onyx
valid anchor
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that's for Finale.

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for the blueprint, you need some materials Escher (the blacksmith) lists.

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for refinement: Condessence crystal (Fontaine underwater), white iron chunk (eerywhere), and 500 mora. Plus 1x Midlander sword billet (Fontaine and Sumeru trunk bosses)

neat onyx
valid anchor
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the rest is somewhat easy-peasy. Hydro Phantasms are fine, as long you don't use hydro against them. Cannot be frozen when are on exalted state (you get an achievement by trying it, however).

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Condescensse Crystal can also be found on Natlan, but it's more common in Fontaine underwater.

neat onyx
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I think i'm going to need help with this

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It is a big word even though i've been gone for like I don't know what a year

valid anchor
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I'll login in Genshin later today (in Americas server first). If you need help once I start playing lemme know.

neat onyx
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Ok

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I'm gonna first get the final of a deep sword since that seems like the easiest to get so far

strange scarab
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Nuts

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waiter more cigarettes please

haughty lotus
strange scarab
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Wong

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Wrong*

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I wish i was actually a multibillion kpop idol

haughty lotus
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Ghost ping 😹

quaint fern
dreamy cedar
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yeah this was the solution.
upped Kuki from 85 and 90 and reworked her to be on Gilded instead of Deepwood
(yes I now know that “Paradise Lost” is busted but haven’t farmed that domain yet)

clear with 5 secs to spare

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next puzzle…

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coming up about 5% short here

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assume I’m stupid and have incorrect builds - how could I get an extra 5-10% out

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on Xiangling would Dragon’s Bane or Jade Winged Spear be best here

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I have Xiphos Moonlight on Kazuha so ER actually isn’t an issue

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I have all the bursts in both rotations

rugged sparrow
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wdym both rotations

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pls dont tell me you only burst twice with Xiangling the entirety of LDS fight with triple pyro team

dreamy cedar
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I mean the fire dragon thing

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goes from egg bucket thing, to fire dragon, to on the ground, back to egg back to fire dragon and back on the ground across the fight

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almost all of my damage occurs when its on the ground twice
so two rotations no?

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I haven’t counted exactly but pretty sure Xiang’s burst is up at least 3 times across the fight

haughty lotus
dreamy cedar
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thought hyper bloom was EM only, didn’t realize there was a level component

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never been a min-maxer meta boy but Stygian is really grinding my gears cus Menacing on my account is just close enough to be possible but currently out of reach

fringe bear
dreamy cedar
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plus more fun to do it myself

fringe bear
fringe bear
warped prism
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Guys I’m trying to add someone by their uid but it doesn’t show up and mine dosnt show up for them?

fringe bear
warped prism
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We are both online

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Yea

dreamy cedar
warped prism
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Oh okay

fringe bear
fringe bear
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(my 5* characters are all c0) well invested accounts have no issue clearing lvl 5, lvl 4 is even easier

dreamy cedar
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maxed out Arle’s normal attack lvl and managed to beat this guy
one left

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I think I’m cooked for the last one tho

fringe bear
dreamy cedar
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Yep cryo one

bright cape
fringe bear
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cryo is the easiest one)

dreamy cedar
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I have Ayaka and a half built Skirk

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no cryo supports

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what other team members should I take

fringe bear
fringe bear
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furina as a hydro if possible

opal surge
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the cryo one is by far the hardest one if you dont own skirk or escoffier

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Saying ssaod is the easiest one just comes from an insanely biased position of playing shilled character into shill boss

bright cape
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u can may be take her to 80/90

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level 8 talent n try

fringe bear
opal surge
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I dont see how this is relevant

hazy lotus
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a lot of people lack cryo since it was relatively underwhelming before escoffier and skirk

opal surge
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the other two have had hour 1 4* only clears

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pre exalted buffs

dreamy cedar
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what team are we thinking for skirky

opal surge
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skirk layla xq charlotte/diona

fringe bear
opal surge
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you can try skirk and ayaka in the same team but its a little less intuitive to play

dreamy cedar
fringe bear
dreamy cedar
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Rosaria yes

fringe bear
opal surge
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nah its bad

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play layla over rosa for sure as well layla is just a better character

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if you have her

dreamy cedar
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“Why Layla?” can I ask

fringe bear
opal surge
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Layla has significantly better uptime, can hold tom and does way more + provides sustain

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rosaria does literally nothing

fringe bear
opal surge
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she does no damage, and buffs crit into a 3 cryo skirk team?

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rosaria does not do damage in freeze

dreamy cedar
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is sucrose VV shred and ToDS worth considering or no longer meta?

opal surge
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you just need cryo app

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skirk also cant actually play with an anemo character

dreamy cedar
opal surge
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If you dont want to build an extra character you can try with ayaka skirk xq diona its probably fine for diff 4

dreamy cedar
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thankfully I have a mistsplitter reforged for skirk so once she’s built she’ll do numbers

violet cipher
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These are the dps units I have the most concern over. Which unit needs building the most?

opal surge
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not fischl or xiangling their builds are fine and since they're not an onfielder I wouldnt sweat too much over it

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if the choice is between clorinde and arle and they use the same set it seems to me that you have little choice over which of the two youd like to improve

violet cipher
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Okay, thank you.

fringe bear
violet cipher
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Also, I didn't get an answer to this. I tried Hutao/Chev/Xiangling Fischl and it didn't work as well as with Clorinde/Chev/Xiangling/Fishl so I'm sticking with Clorinde.
#📌gimshim-help message

opal surge
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Im arguing because Rosa is a fraud character and not worth raising if you own layla

opal surge
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Hu tao is not a good characters in overload and fischl should generally outperform ororon for clorinde unless you play mav + ororon instead of fischl +xl

violet cipher
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Gotcha, ty.
I do have Nahida, so I could do some sort of burning/burgeon team - should I try that for lava dragon?

opal surge
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For what specifically?

violet cipher
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Lava dragon, sorry

opal surge
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I think clorinde fischl XL chev should have an easier time clearing it compared to doing some burning stuff

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Which difficulty is this for?

violet cipher
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Probably HuTao/Xiangling/Nahida - I could flex with something like Kazuha or healer; but you said this should be easier so nvm.

violet cipher
opal surge
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Yeah nah I would stay away from playing hutao in anything but vape

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Her strong point is the lack of icd she has when spamming CAs allowing her to abuse amplifying reactions

violet cipher
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I showed my time and someone said with Chev/Xiangling there wasn’t enough Pyro, so I thought having a pyro dps would fix that.
And my only 5* pyro dps is HuTao and Diluc.

opal surge
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Nah chev xiangling is easily enough Pyro

violet cipher
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Chev is C1 I'm cookedQiqiLurk

fringe bear
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Lan Yan is also good instead of kazu with vv and ttds

violet cipher
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I got Mualani but not xilo and Arle is busy on Taulpa. I'll try Clorinde/nahida/fischl/Xiangling maybe - but I don't think it's gonna battery too well.

fringe bear
strange scarab
thorn bay
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Is BoL Lynnette gud?? Just asking cuz why not???

strange scarab
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Magandang umaga

nova swift
elder latch
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thinking of finally c6ing my bennett

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what teams does it even fk up

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i only run him w raiden and mav atp

elder latch
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alr yea fk it imma do it

normal halo
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looking for active EU players (especially austrians/germans) to add in-game. DM me for UID

cedar flint
lyric cargo
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what the qick config kek

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rainbow set because no recommended 4pc set is unused? I get it.
But rainbow with 4-star pieces? one of them not max level? VentiLipBite

rugged sparrow
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one thing you'll learn when optimizing genshin char is never trust in-game tools KeK

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
hazy lotus
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thas a prime reroll candidate if i've ever seen one

strange scarab
lyric cargo
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top one, pretty clearly

strange scarab
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Shuld i use em sands kleestare

opal surge
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I think you should pull r1

strange scarab
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Sig = scam

opal surge
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and use EM sands yes

hazy lotus
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nah c6 first surely

strange scarab
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All of them are scams

opal surge
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Using EM sands is likey better for you but consider this

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If you swap to EM sands akasha will put you on the vape or the melt leaderboard and you will get washed there

strange scarab
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Nah im goated

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ill be back

lyric cargo
strange scarab
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c2 xilonen true

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Hell na im getting fried

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atk sands it is

hazy lotus
rugged sparrow
strange scarab
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C6r0 soon

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Hello megabron

strange scarab
rugged sparrow
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wherege

strange scarab
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I had enough

rugged sparrow
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can u post the link

rugged sparrow
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jfc those 4-stars

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on the plus side, Iansan

strange scarab
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I literally own all of these

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Ya im skipping it

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speechless

rugged sparrow
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pulling Mav and getting c2+ Iansan would be nice

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for newer players

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too bad the other two are kinda ??? though

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would've been goated if they sneak a Bennett again

strange scarab
viral mulch
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c4r0 ahh

opal surge
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NAH

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iansan is on mav banner what cryge

cedar flint
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ngl my iansan is c5 so I will just bet on a free iansan in the coming patches

opal surge
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iansan coming to save that fraud mavuika's sales

cedar flint
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definitely

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I will have to wait to see Ineffa kit before I pull mavuika tho

opal surge
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🤨

cedar flint
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?

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what’s weird about wanting to see the live stream before pulling

sick quarry
cedar flint
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sure mavuika would be a buff for my varesa team but Ineffa is a cute robot

cedar flint
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if she let me play like weird electro charge varesa team that would be funny

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if she is just a electro dps than I really don’t need anyone but varesa

sage sail
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i hate the ruin enemy ley line monolith thing in theater

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they never lock onto me because i can never hit them fast enough so they just hit the monolith and i lose more than 65% hp every time

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i used to clear it easily with junk characters because i can just keep them distracted the whole time

lyric cargo
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(very nice because Iansan is kinda the only 4-star I need cons on at this point)

lyric cargo
opal surge
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if you can you can always choose the natlan guy for leyline defense

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he doesnt actually do anything

cedar flint
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ye peak stage all I did was stand and watch him slowly attack me

elder bluff
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Or you can select the samurai
They dont deal much damage and easy to dispatch

sick quarry
sturdy fern
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hi guys can i ask

sage sail
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the result after using elixir then reshaping...

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im pissed

sick quarry
sick quarry
sturdy fern
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this is my furina, can you guys tell me what can i do to get her above 40k and also how does her burst work i dont get it :((

elder bluff
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Option is to reroll

rugged sparrow
sturdy fern
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what should be ?

rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
# sage sail im pissed

it's usually going to take a couple reshapes, I think
but 23% chance to avoid the bad stat entirely on a 4-liner
better chance here I guess

rugged sparrow
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they dont aggro monolith and like -15s per kill

rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
viral mulch
lyric cargo
sage sail
viral mulch
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whole 0.4

sage sail
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mine went to CR so i kept the original bc im close to overcapping

lyric cargo
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arguably, the old one was better

viral mulch
lyric cargo
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was about to ask

viral mulch
lyric cargo
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don't think I'd have rerolled that for skirk

viral mulch
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im rerolling that piece again next patch as soon as i get more

opal surge
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well its as good as it gets

lyric cargo
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3 useful subs is usually my reroll standard

opal surge
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skirk doesnt have 3 subs on circlet

lyric cargo
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oh, it's circlet

rugged sparrow
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  • free energy
lyric cargo
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I was looking at the last one which was a goblet 😅

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
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her burst basically gives dmg% and healing bonus% to entire team depending on collective HP change (healing, drain/dmg)

viral mulch
#

healing bonus is the important part btw

rugged sparrow
#

so true

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

eh I waste 4 bad chars there

#

just abuse blessing Yupge

lyric cargo
sturdy fern
rugged sparrow
#

I'm more surprised Bennett and XL are down to one uses but uh

#

you're already past Coppelius no

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
#

I'd just use XL / Mav

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
#

i practically arle soloed lmao

rugged sparrow
#

still hate the fact we're forced to use 4

viral mulch
lyric cargo
viral mulch
#

guess who didnt even get swapped into at all

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
lyric cargo
#

did I get it right?

viral mulch
#

yea what do u expect om

rugged sparrow
#

inb4 Neuv didn't get swapped

viral mulch
#

thats the uh qucu boss so

rugged sparrow
#

so it dies to 1 Eula nuke got it

lyric cargo
viral mulch
#

what was act 6 boss again

rugged sparrow
#

Suanni

viral mulch
#

oh

rugged sparrow
#

I just put Wrio on the ring

viral mulch
#

yea that explains lmao

rugged sparrow
#

wait that's act4 smh

viral mulch
#

crazy team

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
#

mm yes 4 cryo

#

also what is that crown lv16 thing

opal surge
#

30% crit rate from 4p cryo resonance

rugged sparrow
#

1 buff level = 1 brilliant blessing level
inputting extra chars at the start also give more levels

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iirc u start at level 4, +1 level per extra char past requirement (+4 max)

viral mulch
#

what the fuck u can increase that midway

#

i actually didnt know this whole time om

rugged sparrow
#

ye just buy buffs

#

whales prob dont care as much omegadance

#

Alicia's IT run was literally just buying char since buff affects so little

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
#

had to use up Mav earler and almost started over 😅
since I also realized I forgot to loan a char from a friend

#

this might be the literal first time my Ga Ming ever does anything

#

(it's rank 4 melt blessing, though)

rugged sparrow
#

blessings op

lyric cargo
#

sad theater for Chevreuse, btw
not a single electro char in guest stars

cedar flint
#

I killed the last boss with a c6 arle tho and 3 cryo lol love friends

fierce sparrow
#

is blackcliff pole a good weapon if u dont have dragon bane for xq or hutao

lyric cargo
#

my Goldflame is kinda cooked by bosses not being able to be frozen VentiCringe

fierce sparrow
#

i have only 1 dragonbane and no more polearms

jolly junco
lyric cargo
#

I assume by xq you mean xiangling, not xingqiu? (he's not a polearm char)

lyric cargo
bright cape
fierce sparrow
#

no the pyro girl

lyric cargo
#

was in act 5 when I noticed, had to decide if I start over or not

lyric cargo
jolly junco
#

mualani, furina, xiangling, last slot doesn't matter. use furina to knock it out of the sky, change furina to heal mode and Q before you xiangling qe followed by mualani

fierce sparrow
#

my hutao has 62 crit rate but 162 crit dmg with dragon bane

lyric cargo
fierce sparrow
#

it says hutao can use blackcliff

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but xl cant

#

does hutao need em?

#

more than crit dmg

lyric cargo
# fierce sparrow it says hutao can use blackcliff

also good to read the *:

Blackcliff Pole: Despite seeming quite good due to the Crit DMG substat, Blackcliff Pole at 1 stack performs only slightly better than an [R5] White Tassel in practice as it is difficult to maintain stacks consistently. It is not recommended to buy this weapon specifically for Hu Tao and should only be used if you already have one.

lyric cargo
#

I think I'd default to dragon's bane, it's realatively often on banner so most accounts should have it

#

you can also fish for "the catch" for xiangling

fierce sparrow
#

my catch raiden using

lyric cargo
#

ah

#

favonious lance is a good one as well, especially with stygian onslaught making us start at 0 energy

fierce sparrow
#

this new abyss thing

#

where u need three teams

#

i legit have no other weapons

#

or should i just give up on hutao

lyric cargo
#

I wouldn't give up on her, no

fierce sparrow
#

nor do i have shield for her or any good buffers

#

if only genshin added a feature which could allow me to get back the weapon i refined 5x

lyric cargo
#

there are better pyro dpses now, but Hutao does not need Bennett. which is huge, considering there are 3 different bosses
and teams starting from difficulty 4 or 5 are not allowed to overlap

lyric cargo
fierce sparrow
#

ye

#

i have most 4 stars

#

is hutao really a f2p friendly character tho?

lyric cargo
jolly junco
#

her optimal teammates are 5*s but she does have some good 4 star supports

#

xingqiu, bennett, sucrose, even fischl works decently well for overvape

lyric cargo
#

oh right, there's sucrose + second pyro

jolly junco
#

there's also just the option of running bennett in the furina teams

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damage wise he is similar to xianyun

#

for overall team damage

#

worse than xilonen though

lyric cargo
#

still going to have to see if I can get the star on act 9
I expect act 10 will be no problem, but I'm already missing one

lyric cargo
thorn bay
lyric cargo
lyric cargo
#

(they love putting hydro mimics in theater, though. It's where I used my Nahida Kuki last time)

thorn bay
#

Ohh

lyric cargo
keen willow
lyric cargo
#

oh, you can only claim all the rewards at once?
let's say it was a new stygian onslaught soon and I wanted to keep the transient resin for then
I'd have to postpone claiming the crafting elixir as well

lyric cargo
keen willow
thorn bay
#

Where else can we get the reroll feather other than stygie onslaught and the bp

lyric cargo
#

I used trial Wrio on SSA:OD and cleared in half the time limit for the star

lyric cargo
keen willow
lyric cargo
#

we get 3 from stygian onslaught
2 from battle pass (the expensive version of it I didn't know existed)

lyric cargo
#

it being transient just leads to feelbad moments of it expiring
don't think +1 fragile a month is going to break the game's resin economy somehow

keen willow
#

Yeah i wouldn't use it if i didn't see it rn

lyric cargo
#

I might've seen when I claimed it from teapot next

keen willow
#

I don't get resin from teapot

lyric cargo
#

oh

keen willow
#

Its usually character and artifact exp

lyric cargo
#

I buy resin + char exp + rest into mora

#

for artifact exp, I do a daily investigation route

#

I think they can be as fast as 10-20 minutes, though I do one where all the investigation spots give mora

keen willow
#

Oof genshin for 20 mins

lyric cargo
#

let's not talk about 2h elite runs in co-op, shall we? kek

dim hill
#

which weapon do i use for mavuika?

sick quarry
haughty lotus
manic turtle
#

iansan is good at charging Mauvika?

lyric cargo
#

Iansan can still replace Xilonen on the team and it's roughly a sidegrade
but it's more when you need Xilonenen on the other side imo

#

or she's not available in theater

manic turtle
#

i saw this banner, and I thought it will be more profitable for me than skirk then skirk

lyric cargo
#

Skirk is not a bad pull by herself, but the banner is not very good

manic turtle
#

and i have chevreuse

#

so mav, iansan and chev team

opal surge
#

You kinda lack at least one more unit to play chevreuse but yeah

#

you kinda need ororon or at the very least fischl

lyric cargo
#

ultimately Mav prefers melt, though Chev could be an option in some situation

opal surge
#

you just dont have many units yet I wouldnt think too much about teambuilding for now

lyric cargo
manic turtle
#

i have 83 pity, and I'm deciding between skirk and mav

#

and i rather get an mav

lyric cargo
#

getting to 83 is quite improbable 🤔

#

(I just checked, 83 wishes give you 99.25% chance to get a 5-star)

#

66.6% you'll get one next pull

manic turtle
#

i have next 15 pulls saved, to moment i decided skirk or mav

nova osprey
#

how do you get these to level 3?

rugged sparrow
#

same concept like levelling a unit to level 2, get 3 of the same level units
3 level 1 = level 2
3 level 2 = level 3

nova osprey
#

it takes me two copies of a lvl 1 unit to make a lvl 2
you mean 3 lvl 2's make a lvl 3?

rugged sparrow
#

you need 3 copies

#

and yes, 3 level2 to make level 3

nova osprey
#

got it, thanks wandererwaveexcited

hard garnet
#

is xiphos’ moonlight always better than iron sting for kazuha? if it helps at all i have 150% ER and enough EM.

rugged sparrow
#

Iron Sting isn't even that good on Kaz since he values his burst a lot, so ER weaps are higher priority

hard garnet
#

okay, thank you

lyric cargo
#

at low refinement, xiphos provides less energy for the team than favonius

#

for kazuha himself, even r1 xiphos could let him reach his ER reqs
so he just gets to have more EM with xiphos than fav sword

but allowing teammates to build less ER might be more valuable than that

#

I still think xiphos is a really good weapon, lets you free up a fav sword
(and you don't need to have crit subs)

hard garnet
#

is it worth it to take the -165 EM for the extra ER?

lyric cargo
#

I find that hard to answer

#

do you have the xiphos already?

hard garnet
#

yeah, it’s only r1

lyric cargo
#

my kazuha is pretty much always on r2 xiphos

#

freeing up fav for other chars

lyric cargo
#

since the xiphos is not r3

#

you do want good ER subs on your EM pieces, of course

rugged sparrow
#

165 EM is only 6.6% dmg buff

#

Fav procs can reduce 20%-ish ER depending on many times u proc it during rot

#

and it benefits entire team

lyric cargo
#

if the fav is free, it's probably best to put it on kazuha

rugged sparrow
#

that's still 3 subs avg for entire team

hard garnet
#

with xiphos, if i get its buff, kaz should have around 185% ER, Fav: 206% rn not including the buff it provides

#

i do need to get er on my circlet too though

rugged sparrow
#

Fav better until Xiphos is high refines

hard garnet
#

okay

rugged sparrow
#

though I'm not entirely sure if it only assumes 1 Fav proc or more

#

should be easy to check ig

lyric cargo
#

1000 EM xiphos gives teammates:
r1 → 10.8% ER
r2 → 13.5% ER
r3 → 16.2% ER
r4 → 18.9% ER
r5 → 21.6% ER

rugged sparrow
#

makes sense ye

hard garnet
#

does it?

#

r1 states it’s 0.036% per point of em

rugged sparrow
#

for Kazuha

hard garnet
#

so x1000 is 36

rugged sparrow
#

allies is 30%

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

so 30% of 36 (r1) which results in 10.8

hard garnet
#

oh to other party members

lyric cargo
#

yeah
do you have a specific team btw, or is this in general?

rugged sparrow
hard garnet
#

i’m using neuvi, furina, kaz, charlotte

#

they all have high er so i’m not worried about them

rugged sparrow
#

r1-r2 Xiphos just dies in comparison with 2+ procs Fav PepeLaugh

lyric cargo
#

if Neuv is on his sig, it might be worth checking what his ER req even is

rugged sparrow
#

I mean even then, worth for Furina

lyric cargo
#

yeah, but only her, right?

rugged sparrow
#

depends on who the last slot is

hard garnet
#

charlotte

rugged sparrow
#

if it's Citlali she can appreciate it

lyric cargo
#

Xilonen would be my assumption
ah

rugged sparrow
#

eugh yeah she'll need that omegadance

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

granted Charlotte on Neuvrina team can just run Proto Amber to solve ER issue better

#

all in all I think low refine Xiphos can be better than Fav specifically for that team

#

since ER reqs are already super low across the board

hard garnet
#

i’ll test it out once i level up xiphos

rugged sparrow
#

well you want to input them on ERC

#

idk Neuv rot so idk if I can spit out the correct numbers

hard garnet
#

alright, thanks for both of your guy’s inputs

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

what's Neuv's sig name again

#

I wanna check how much flat energy it gives

lyric cargo
#

Tome of Eternal Flow

rugged sparrow
#

ty

lyric cargo
#

When the character has 3 stacks or a third stack's duration refreshes, 8 Energy will be restored. This Energy restoration effect can be triggered once every 12s.

rugged sparrow
#

I assume you can proc it twice per rot

#

something like this ig

#

ig I can put 2 Fav procs for Kaz if I'm being generous

rugged sparrow
#

Neuv needs 2 subs avg, 4 subs without 2nd Fav proc

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

ye

#

Charlotte needing 200 ER with 2 Fav procs + r5 Amber is some crazy work

lyric cargo
#

now go see what happens if it's fav Xilonen instead kek

rugged sparrow
#

actualy one of her consts give energy doesn't it

#

oh yeah c4 gives energy

rugged sparrow
#

1 Fav proc each

#

ig realistically you can proc ~2 per rot with Kaz Xilo but... yeah omegalul

#

what's an ER, anyway

lyric cargo
#

is there anything we should do differently when ER-calcing for Stygian Onslaught, btw?

#

assuming a very short first rotation that needs to fill your bursts?

rugged sparrow
#

depends ig

#

like against SSAOD it fills up your burst almost immediately after you freeze it the first time so you just do normal rot

#

the rest of the teams are kinda ??? cuz you have XL shenanigans for LDS

#

some build a lot more ER just to get the first burst quickly

lyric cargo
#

I guess I'm asking more in general since I already got the rewards from this SO

rugged sparrow
#

if you do 1st rotation normally (excluding burst) you'll end up needing the same amount of ER

#

it's just we have Xiangling on-fielding with NA spam + Fav that makes things kinda ???

#

not exactly applicable for ERC kek

lyric cargo
#

ah 😅

rugged sparrow
#

though ig XL is outliers (though as do a lot of other chars that just don't function with burst)

#

you can kinda like, build them as ERC would suggest

#

but your first rotation is gonna be wack/slower

lyric cargo
#

some can run sac as well

#

not Xiangling

rugged sparrow
#

Sac Polearm is taboo

#

cant have 2 Guobas

lyric cargo
cedar flint
rugged sparrow
#

XL was the only polearm user in 1.0 I believe so... take that as you will

cedar flint
#

yaoyao with sac would be cool as well

spice wedge
#

anyone can help me doing some domain for skirk's artifact? lv 80 domain bcause too AR low for unlock the 90 one

lyric cargo
#

you'll get better drop rates at ar45, and artifact farming is really more a matter of months

spice wedge
spice wedge
sage sail
#

is gearup booster bannable? jello impact got sponsored by them and used it but idk about the long term

#

would be nice if it's not since my ping has increased a lot since i started playing (it's just genshin not other games)

#

genshin really needs some clarity in their ToS

valid anchor
normal halo
#

Looking for active EU players(prefer German speakers). DM me for UID

strange scarab
forest venture
#

they are?

hazy lotus
#

Can't do shit in genshin impact

real shadow
lyric cargo
#

cope piece keep of the day:

#

(surely I should just strongbox that away. but if they make a char like Chasca but def scaling, it could be good kek )

normal halo
worthy siren
#

How many times can i farm weekly trounce domains

lyric cargo
#

if you're ar45, I'd spend my resin on the stygian onslaught artifact thing, though. It's the highest value right now

lyric cargo
#

so another ~19h if you're on EU (might be 6h less or more depending on the server)

#

weekly bosses reset on Monday, so there'll be time after the onslaught thing

strange scarab
#

Otherwise the dev wouldnt have attempted to patch it in the past (and somehow popped out again)

lyric cargo
#

hmmm
losing 2 rolls of ER to gain 1 roll of atk%
probably not worth

sage sail
#

this could've been peak

cedar flint
#

I can’t find the last purple fragment to get the ring and I think I already opened all 4 chests in the area

lyric cargo
#

trying to think of what else gives precious or lux chests

#

which clan vault are you missing?

cedar flint
thorn bay
fair urchin
#

Guys can u tell me some good mauvika teams without citlali or xilonen

lyric cargo
#

considering Furina is probably useful for another chamber, I'd probably tend towards 2 cryo

fair urchin
#

Rosaria?

lyric cargo
#

Mav, Ben, 2x (Rosaria / Diona / Escoffier)

#

another option could be Iansan + 1 cryo
should be possible in theory 🤔

since Citlali's cryo app is enough to run just 1 cryo as well
only problem is clearing the pyro aura after Bennett takes the field

#

without losing too much uptime on Bennett's buff

fair urchin
lyric cargo
fair urchin
#

Mauvika benne is fixed

lyric cargo
#

in theory she can dash to consume nightsoul herself
but maybe try Iansan + 1 cryo first
or Iansan + Furina/Yelan

#

given Furina / Yelan are more likely to be already built

lyric cargo
#

or do you already have Mav?

fair urchin
#

No I'm pulling her this time remember

lyric cargo
#

my brain is a sieve 😅

rugged sparrow
#

just Mav/Bennett/Iansan/Furina or Yelan or Rosaria then ig

fair urchin
rugged sparrow
#

works but like, straight downgrade to vape/melt teams

lyric cargo
fair urchin
#

Perhaps I should build around a melt team and get citlali when she comes

#

Till then maybe I can fit mauvika in chasca team?

rugged sparrow
#

sure

#

then again Chasca team with Mav usually also warrants Citlali

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
fair urchin
#

I never have support chars frr

#

I thought to pull skirk but no escoffier furina with neuv

#

Going to pull mauvika but no citlali xilo

rugged sparrow
#

are you allergic to good teams or something

lyric cargo
#

I think they took a break playing

rugged sparrow
#

I see

fair urchin
rugged sparrow
#

unluck

fair urchin
lyric cargo
#

am I right to conclude that this doesn't make it any tankier?

cedar flint
#

I think they do take less dmg under the shield

lyric cargo
#

it doesn't mention increased res, so I wondered what the machanic would be
I guess I should check the page for shields, the ones that behave like "armor"

rugged sparrow
#

only one way to find out

#

smack one

lyric cargo
#

will try

#

classic genshin btw: trying it out is easier than trying to understand the description kek

rugged sparrow
#

UX writing in general

lyric cargo
#

compare that to MtG, where the saying is "reading the card explains the card"

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
#

cascade, cascade, cascade, cascade

dreamy cedar
#

quick q about overload teams

what enemies are they good against

also is mavuika good for overload teams because deciding whether to build Chevreuse or not for alternate team for her

strange scarab
opal surge
#

Mavuika overload is not the best archetype for mavuika herself, but compared to other overload teams its very good

lyric cargo
royal drum
#

Hi there is anyone here willing to explain to me abit more indepth about what is artifact reshaping as ive just returned to the game n got zero clues

cedar flint
royal drum
#

Yea

cedar flint
#

so you know how you get that perfect 4 sub stats artifact and you level it up and it rolls 5 time in to flat def?

#

now you can try your luck at rerolling it into a actual useful piece

#

2 rolls are also guaranteed to be into 1 or 2 sub stats of your choice

#

the new mechanic also got somewhat of a pity System which will give you better rolls every 6 feathers

#

and if you used 18 in total the sub stats you picked will be rolled 4 times

royal drum
#

So if i have a cc cd er def which stat should i pick to reroll?

cedar flint
#

obviously the stats that your character requires but mostly crit

#

but it is only recommended to use them on artifacts that started with 4 substats to get the extra roll

#

and not those that start with 3 only

royal drum
#

Hmmm ic

#

Well ill yolo it and see how it hies i guess

cedar flint
#

basically it is recommended to only use it for good pieces that rolled badly

#

flowers and feathers only cost one dust and the rest cost 2 per reroll

royal drum
#

Smth like this?

cedar flint
lyric cargo
cedar flint
#

but you can

#

unless you reach pity

royal drum
#

Pity?

cedar flint
#

You want to look for pieces that rolled 5 times in total and not 4

cedar flint
#

where it says 2/6

royal drum
#

Oh

lyric cargo
# royal drum Pity?

basically you're guarenteed to get 2 rolls. but an artifact with 2 useful rolls is still bad

#

unless the non-chosen rolls are also good

cedar flint
#

I ideally you want to only reroll artifacts that started with 4 stats with at least 3 useful

lyric cargo
#

I'd mostly save rerolls for pieces that have a shot at being perfect

like a crit dmg circlet with 4 starting stats ("4-liner")
that has 3 useful substats, like crit rate + atk% + EM
for a char where those are the only useful substats
like Mavuika

there's a ~23% chance to never roll the final stat, so I'd reroll it until it rolls perfectly

cedar flint
#

but you can gamble with 2 useful if it was a 4 liner as well

royal drum
#

Hmmmm

lyric cargo
#

another example would be a goblet for skirk, with crit rate + crit dmg + atk%
those are the only useful substats for her

#

I'd also prioritize pieces for chars with high team dmg share

cedar flint
royal drum
#

Right thanks

lyric cargo
royal drum
#

If i meed help again ill ask

cedar flint
opal surge
#

you cannot

strange scarab
#

is this goodge

cedar flint
#

well it’s a good off piece

opal surge
#

ifa piece

cedar flint
#

if only chasca needed anemo

lyric cargo
strange scarab
#

its so easy

opal surge
#

as long as that involves converting anemo% and not making her do anemo damage thats fine

#

she would be bricked if she did anemo damage

strange scarab
#

faruzan jean xianyun

cedar flint
#

we need the ability to change main stat fr fr

strange scarab
#

🗿

cedar flint
#

it would’ve been the perfect mavuika goblet if it was pyro and not anemo

strange scarab
#

that look like my xiao goblin

lyric cargo
cedar flint
lyric cargo
#

time to start locking pieces that would be good with a different main stat

cedar flint
#

so you gotta hit that 1/13 or so to get the right main stat

lyric cargo
opal surge
#

it wont exist because its awkward to use

#

it would have to reroll substats too

cedar flint
#

why would it

opal surge
#

because mainstats and substats block each other?

cedar flint
#

oh I was thinking mainly about elemental dmg but ig

lyric cargo
cedar flint
#

maybe it won’t be able to roll into any stat the piece already has?

#

easier to roll a goblet

opal surge
#

nah it simply wont ever exist

#

quote me on this never when it doesnt h appen

strange scarab
#

I have so many crazy anemo goblets and only one guy wants it

viral mulch
#

idk what to rly feel about it
prob negatively

rugged sparrow
thorn bay
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
thorn bay
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
#

bruh

viral mulch
#

bruh indeed

#

btw when does the arti farming phase for stygian end exactly

#

does it end next daily reset or

#

oh yea it is ok

atomic tide
#

how do i use yaoyao with nilou if as soon as i get off yaoyao her ult goes away, am i only supposed to use for the elemental skill

thorn bay
#

How much er is actually good for xiangling

viral mulch
#

changing

thorn bay
viral mulch
#

depends on team tho

thorn bay
#

I don’t know @toxic latch demanded me to build her

toxic latch
#

@thorn bay what's up

viral mulch
#

maomao we need to cure the patients

thorn bay
toxic latch
thorn bay
toxic latch
#

look on crit rate

#

and crit dmg

thorn bay
thorn bay
toxic latch
#

but u need to upgrade skill first

#

skill e and normal atk no need much

#

only ult skill

#

she just sp don't make her to be dps

#

try to get conclusion your xingaling can be more stronger

toxic latch
thorn bay
#

;-;

toxic latch
#

I just give u some advice

#

u have so much character to fix not only xiangling

toxic latch
#

so don't waste resin for layla

thorn bay
toxic latch
#

I know u simp her but u need to look back what advantage u should have first

toxic latch
#

nah just ask google

thorn bay
toxic latch
#

u can see my pf build

#

enjoy

thorn bay
forest venture
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pf = pure fiction?

thorn bay
viral mulch
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pale flame

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trust

toxic latch
thorn bay
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Pocket fly

viral mulch
toxic latch
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u have citlali try get mavuika

thorn bay
viral mulch
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you disconnected

opal surge
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what is even going on

viral mulch
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dunno tbh

toxic latch
forest venture