📌gimshim-help

[molten dome]

ive googled around and everyone recommends dendro

[haughty lotus]

It’s good but you only need one dendro character

[molten dome]

ahh

im a bit of a older player so i have no idea who xilonen is

[haughty lotus]

Geo cat girl in the middle of your first screenshot

[molten dome]

ohhhhhhh

should i try and pull for skirk or shenhe or is it a waste

[haughty lotus]

Skirk is good

You’ll want to get escoffier in the future for her

[molten dome]

oki!!

thank u

[haughty lotus]

For a Lisa team for now I’d probably use chevreuse Bennett xiangling since you don’t have fischl

[molten dome]

Okay thank u!!

okok!

Is it okay ??

This is my Lisa build

[rugged sparrow]

you can just use enka

artifacts are though

the sands is good

[crude dirge]

2 pieces with no crits is tuff

[rugged sparrow]

though EM main stats is likely better

[crude dirge]

and 5pc tf

[neon harness]

Or you can just cope 😌

[nova swift]

Lumine mention

[molten dome]

she does around 5-15 k i dont rly know what the artifacts should have

[crude dirge]

5-15k from buffed E?

[molten dome]

no normal attack

[crude dirge]

should change some piece (goblet/circlet) to other one offset

[molten dome]

which ones would u suggest

im not a big genshin pro so im not the best at this stuff lol

[crude dirge]

circlet

why do u even have hp circlet on thundering fury

[molten dome]

i just had no better one with better stats

[crude dirge]

mostly people just offset elemental damage goblet and all other onset

double crit on set right elemental damage goblet is a call from heaven if it rolls properly

[molten dome]

so i would want a circle and goblet with elemental mastery right? then sub stats crit dmg, crit rate and more elemental mastery and energy recharge

[rugged sparrow]

goblet is electro%

[rugged sparrow]

literally just look at this

[crude dirge]

u cant have substat same as the main stat
example is em goblet cant get em substat

[molten dome]

aha

[rugged sparrow]

https://tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds just go here too if you wanna look it up

[molten dome]

thank u guys

[lyric cargo]

if you want consistent damage, you'd need 60% crit rate (so it becomes 100% with 4pc codex)

(it's also the highest average dmg, assuming your crit dmg is over 200%)

[crude dirge]

how does one get so good artifacts in 7 patches😭

[molten dome]

too many numbers for me

u guys have to explain like im just new to this game

should i have 4pc tf

is that good or okay

[rugged sparrow]

4p TF is good if you play on-field Lisa

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[rugged sparrow]

ill snap ur neck

[molten dome]

i play fully lisa

just straight up lisa

[rugged sparrow]

do you not get what "on-field" means or

[molten dome]

no...

[rugged sparrow]

it literally just means playing Lisa on the field

like the active character (most of the time)

[molten dome]

oh yeah then yes

[crude dirge]

thats called hypercarry if everything is towards buffing lisa

[molten dome]

i tihnk i play her on-field then

i might go for a subdps but really depends

[opal surge]

ye 4tf is good

[distant leaf]

snap my neck

[molten dome]

alright thank u!

[distant leaf]

you cant outfreak the big dong zhong

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[crude dirge]

not as good as 4pc tf on itto

🔥

[haughty lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301056882533994556/1373353209078481059/attachment-3.gif

If you buy me a welkin I’ll do it

https://tenor.com/view/venti-genshin-impact-monsters-vs-aliens-gif-1041180675006478698

I’ll try

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-waffle-house-waffle-house-flightreacts-gif-291001867069513835

[haughty lotus]

Gmgb

[hot cliff]

If I use shenhe skill will she get the extra atk that this weapon gives on her icy quills or nah

[rugged sparrow]

yes

Shenhe's quills are dynamic

[hot cliff]

Merci Monsieur Lychon

[rugged sparrow]

de rien

[jolly junco]

aint no way you know french

[rugged sparrow]

I literally just googled it

[jolly junco]

you fraud

[rugged sparrow]

only french term I generally know is "sacre bleu"

[jolly junco]

do you know fromage

[rugged sparrow]

isn't that quote from that Dexter cartoon

omelette du fromage

[jolly junco]

I don't know

[rugged sparrow]

and ppl corrected it saying it should've been "au" instead of "du"

[jolly junco]

that makes sense

[rugged sparrow]

but no idk fromage

[jolly junco]

because du means of

omelette of cheese

[rugged sparrow]

🧀

[forest venture]

cheddarvergent universe

[dull smelt]

can i have some help making a team for f12? i tried with these teams before but i coudnt get very far

[rugged sparrow]

probs rotation/build issue

team already looks good considering your availble chars

[dull smelt]

true, my dahlia and charlotte arent built the best

[rugged sparrow]

not that they need crazy build, though Dahlia can be replace with Layla

[dull smelt]

my dahlia is a higher level than my layla rn, plus his atk speed boost is helpful

[rugged sparrow]

it is helpful, it's just unfortunate that mobs starting from 2nd chamber heavily encourage cryo

• Layla can hold 4p TotM and has some minor buff at c4 (assuming you have it)

[dull smelt]

well i have dahlia using noblesse for the atk boost, plus skirk has calamity

[shadow lynx]

Without Esco Skirk is super mid but I'd probably stay still better than Ganyu for frereze, Id say ensure your weapons/talents are levelled at least 80/80 on supports and at least OK artifact builds

[rugged sparrow]

how does Skirk having Calamity change anything

[dull smelt]

i forgot layla shields mb

[dull smelt]

what set should charlotte have?

[shadow lynx]

A lot of people level up their support to like lvl 5/6 max on talents which makes a bigger impact than you'd think and not levelling their weapons hurts too

[dull smelt]

yeah i need to level up dahlia and charlotte's talents

[rugged sparrow]

Charlotte can run either Nob / SoDP / Cinder

[shadow lynx]

You kinda of also really want to level 90 Furina, as a support you wont regret if your mora and exp books allow

[neon harness]

🔊🌟 🍼🍆

[violet cipher]

What are the best 4 star cryo batteries?
Also, I haven’t gotten this question answered yet #📌gimshim-help message

[neon harness]

Rosaria

[haughty lotus]

?

[jolly junco]

yes she is better than kazuha (at least for that team), you could try to get a bit more HP (buff caps at 40k on her) and more ER

[violet cipher]

Ok, ty.

[haughty lotus]

What does this mean

[violet cipher]

If I’m using Kazuha against tulpa, what set do I give him to buff Arlechino?

[jolly junco]

don't use kazuha on tulpa he's basically useless

[hazy lotus]

i would just not use kazuha against tulpa personally

[jolly junco]

he can't swirl pyro there

[violet cipher]

Then same question but Nahida.

[hazy lotus]

tenacity if you want a buffing set prob

[jolly junco]

you have citlali

why are you using nahida

[violet cipher]

Not many 4th slot options

[jolly junco]

xilonen, iansan, pyro traveler

[haughty lotus]

Ah, all g dw abt it

[violet cipher]

No xilonen, Iansan c1 and idk what set to give her, not built but maybe.

[rugged sparrow]

just pyro trav then

can 4p Cinder

[jolly junco]

you have c6 bennett so you could use iansan with scroll still

that would just be using her skill and burst then normal attack to trigger overload

though pre-c2 you gotta do the thing anyway

[rugged sparrow]

I ground slam out of habit even though c2+

[violet cipher]

Ok, ty.

If I use pyro traveler (I could probably make something with old Ororon pieces) do I hold or tap e?

[rugged sparrow]

tap is fine

[violet cipher]

K, ty

[dull smelt]

which should i use?

[rugged sparrow]

reshape the right one and pray

(or don't, entirely up to you)

[dull smelt]

I already used my reshape things

and im planning on reshaping this

[rugged sparrow]

3 starters

[dull smelt]

Huh?

[rugged sparrow]

you know 5-star artifacts sometimes only start with 3 subs right

and sometimes 4

[dull smelt]

Yeah?

[rugged sparrow]

that circlet is only 3 starting subs

[dull smelt]

Well I used sanctifying elixirs to make it

[rugged sparrow]

I don't see how it matters

who's using it

[dull smelt]

Arlecchino

[rugged sparrow]

so it has 2 dead subs

[dull smelt]

Well, she’s currently using this

[rugged sparrow]

and 3 starters

[cedar flint]

ye not worth it it

[dull smelt]

ok fair

[cedar flint]

this one is better

at least reroll wise still not amazing

[dull smelt]

its just that i need more atk substats overall, as my build has none

aand the headpiece seems the easiest to improve

[cedar flint]

well neither of those will give you more atk if you reroll them

[dull smelt]

so what should i do

[cedar flint]

get lucky by getting a new circlet or other better pieces

[dull smelt]

just hope i get something better?

fair

[bright cape]

what can be improved?

[rugged sparrow]

sands/gob

[bright cape]

thanks

[rugged sparrow]

both 4 useful subs only

[bright cape]

will levelling skill and burst to 10 boost the damage more
or maxing to lvl 90 for character n weapon?

[rugged sparrow]

crazy how your circlet basically caps out on useful rolls

[bright cape]

i dunno what u mean

[rugged sparrow]

character should matter more especially since Stygian caps out at level 110 mob now

actualyl wait your talent is still 7/6

[bright cape]

yah. i am missing mora

[rugged sparrow]

an artifact can have up to 9 maximum "useful" rolls

considering Skirk only values crit and atk, that circlet is basically perfect in the amount of useful sub rolls

since 2 are 100% dead stats

unless u consider flat atk a useful sub then

[bright cape]

oh ok. yah. it has 7 usefull

[rugged sparrow]

just try to shoot for 64 anyway since cryo reso isn't 100% uptime unless u just run 4 cryos

[bright cape]

i have this as backup incase my new goblet rolls with higher crit rate.

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

it's really sad how many substats are useful to skirk

i think mihoyo could have heavily discouraged skirk to use MH
if they had given her signature 44.1% cr

[rugged sparrow]

tell me about it

[rugged sparrow]

wouldn't do cuz 542 base

[bright cape]

to bad they only went with half

[rugged sparrow]

atk% is gonna be sad on her if she has 542 base sig

[bright cape]

they can compensate by making the weapon passive do something weird

[rugged sparrow]

granted giga whales prob don't care as much cuz c6 Shenhe

[cedar flint]

is c6 shenhe even worth using

I feel like there could be better options still since she is so purely designed

[opal surge]

I dont get the question if you have c6 shenhe shes quite good yeah

[rugged sparrow]

how is she poorly designed

[quaint fern]

Funny enough I think Skirk is the only cryo DPS that can actually utilize C6 to it's fullest extent besides wrio

[rugged sparrow]

have you looked at her assets

[cedar flint]

for a support that only buff one thing she is fairly weak

[quaint fern]

Ganyu in her whale teams wants to be bursting and c6 doesn't do much for ayaka quill-wise

[opal surge]

Thats fine cryo supports are measured by skirk and only skirk now

[cedar flint]

not character design

[rugged sparrow]

it's just pre-4.x era

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

all older units suck ass if you put them side to side to modern chars

[quaint fern]

Kazuha having three whole years of meta relevance was actually pretty crazy in retrospect

[cedar flint]

even before she became old she was interesting

[rugged sparrow]

she was what

wdym interesting

[quaint fern]

You need to remember that shenhe was released during a time when cryo was at peak meta relevance (besides maybe this patch)

[cedar flint]

not as good as she should’ve been

[opal surge]

isnt shenhe c6 genuinely really good for skirk

[quaint fern]

Yeah

[rugged sparrow]

she was the best cryo support there was, wcyd

[opal surge]

its like escoffier > r1 > c2 > furina c2 > escofier c1r1 > furina c3 > c6 >shenhe c6

[quaint fern]

I think so at least, but I don't have calcs

[opal surge]

for skirk vertical

[cedar flint]

where is esco c1 in this

I do consider getting it

[opal surge]

with escoffier r1 i forgor it

[cedar flint]

it’s like c2 xilo but on a character I want

[opal surge]

xilo c2 is a fraud con

[cedar flint]

well the buff for cryo that is

[opal surge]

I would not recommend getting it

[cedar flint]

it only give a big increase for geo right?

[opal surge]

Its an alright increase for many elements, hydro benefitting the most

but its simply not worth 2 cost

when modern carries have actual good vertical

[cedar flint]

not that I plan to pull that fraud either way

I would invest in c6 chiori before I pull even a single xilo

[opal surge]

[quaint fern]

I was baited into pulling xilo

[cedar flint]

Natlan chronicle will be peak so hoyo hurry up

[quaint fern]

Maybe I should pull neuvi

[cedar flint]

maybe

[quaint fern]

Sumeru chronicled will be a joke

[cedar flint]

sumeru chronicle is like cyno dehya nilou tighnari and al

[quaint fern]

Wanderer

[cedar flint]

hmmm we really didn’t get many sumeru 5* ngl

[cedar flint]

oh right forgot he exist

[quaint fern]

Unless you really like the characters there's no reason to pull

[cedar flint]

nilou cons could be cool

[quaint fern]

The sumeru-fontaine power level difference was kind of crazy

[cedar flint]

I think the weapon side tho would be dope

[quaint fern]

What do they even do?

[cedar flint]

I think hydro and dendro res shred and like duration increase for skilll c1-2 from what I remember

[quaint fern]

Is Nahida c2 even worth it in 2025?

[cedar flint]

c6 gives her ton of crit rate and dmg so ppl play vape nilou

[quaint fern]

Yeah ik c6 vape

[opal surge]

vape nilou may clear diff 5

[cedar flint]

If you like her I think it’s still solid

in general not you specifically

[quaint fern]

Yeah if you want to elevate the DPS of hyperbloom or w/e

[cedar flint]

hyperbloom can clear diff 5 so

[quaint fern]

I was thinking while doing my tulpa clear that either alhaitham or Nahida c2 would have made it so much easier

[opal surge]

It can do so without nahida c2 so

I dont see the value

[quaint fern]

It was rough with me with keykuki

Em Raiden might have had an easier time

[cedar flint]

more comfy since faster clear but ye it’s something you pull if you’re a nahida big supporter

[quaint fern]

I cleared with 117

So it was really tight for me

[opal surge]

i played some nahida pmc kuki fischl thing that cleared fine

[cedar flint]

ngl sumeru chronicle is good for weapons only

similar to inazuma one ig

[quaint fern]

what was pmc for? I used sac instructors dmc

[opal surge]

he was there to vibe

occasional burgeon

[quaint fern]

Is your kuki on fopl?

[opal surge]

aw hell nah

2p em 2p emblem

[cedar flint]

pmc was there for the gamer lights

[quaint fern]

Wtf what time did you clear with?

[opal surge]

it was 110+ but thats like fine

i dont recall exactly

[quaint fern]

It's probably just my skill issue then

[opal surge]

you kinda play 2 unit hyperbloom +2 units that do damage

and its like fine for tulpa

[quaint fern]

I was on 4GD & key and still struggled to clear

Yeah I was on Nahida DMC kuki fischl

[opal surge]

i dont know that DMC actually does something here

[quaint fern]

Just more off field dendro

[opal surge]

Does he actually produce meaningfully more blooms

[quaint fern]

Helps with the minis ig

[rugged sparrow]

wut

[opal surge]

nahida can solo the minis with 0 issues so dont need to worry about that

[quaint fern]

And they have HP so I can trigger sac and get two fast dendro hits

I was struggling with the minis, idk what I was doing wrong

[opal surge]

if u just hE when they spawn there should be no chance they live until absorbtion

if you just continue hitting the boss

[quaint fern]

maybe I'll go and try again then

See if I can pick up a few sec on the clear

[rugged sparrow]

Sumeru had 6 5-stars excluding Nahida
Natlan also had 6 5-stars excluding Mav

how many 5-stars are considered many

[opal surge]

7, clearly

[rugged sparrow]

Fontaine had 7 if I'm not miscounting (excluding Furina)

[opal surge]

8 right

do we count arle as fontaine even though she isnt fontainian

[rugged sparrow]

that's what I'm wondering too

[opal surge]

I guess its 7 without arle

[quaint fern]

Lyney, wrio, neuvi, rina, clorinde, navia, sige, arle(?)

[rugged sparrow]

Emilie

[opal surge]

emilie erasure

[quaint fern]

Oh

[bright cape]

my only thing is natlan doesn't have a lackluster 5 star like sigewinne

every region needs one

may be we can count mizuki?

[rugged sparrow]

... Mizuki is Inazuman

[bright cape]

but she was released during natlan

[rugged sparrow]

going with that logic we count Xianyun as Fontainian

[opal surge]

natlan has kinich

[quaint fern]

He's fine

[bright cape]

she was released during fontaine

[neon harness]

Not as fine as u

[bright cape]

or not?

[opal surge]

the discussion stemmed from chronicled

so it doesnt matter when they release

xianyun is clearly not going to be in fontaine chronicled

[bright cape]

oh ok

[rugged sparrow]

case on point: Chiori on Inazuman chronicled

and they clearly try all their might to exclude archons from chronicled god knows why

[opal surge]

because archons presumably sell on their own

(although I doubt this for venti)

[rugged sparrow]

Venti is just giga niche territory atp

[opal surge]

Venti will be good when Pure Fiction releases in genshin

[cedar flint]

if he was cooler ppl would pull even if ass

[rugged sparrow]

he's still dominating some IT stages

but >dominating IT

[cedar flint]

well if there is a good swirl blessing ye he will be good in it

[rugged sparrow]

it's more like

IT is already easy as is

[quaint fern]

It's like the one stage with monolith

[cedar flint]

blessings are op

[rugged sparrow]

ye

monolith + small mobs with Venti

[quaint fern]

Yeah just spam blessings and you're good

[rugged sparrow]

press Q sit back and watch

[cedar flint]

eq

[quaint fern]

KAZE DA

[rugged sparrow]

just get hp particles

that's 1 more button for the effort I'd like to commit when playing Venti

[cedar flint]

venti rework trust

[opal surge]

dominates IT -> is barred entry from IT more than half of the time

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

HSR and ZZZ already buffing older chars

Genshin when

[cedar flint]

the real IT goat is traveler

[opal surge]

genshin has no powercreep, why would they buff older characters

[rugged sparrow]

TRUE

see guys 4-star still clears abyss just fine

[quaint fern]

No powercreep just shillcreep

TRUE

[bright cape]

i am still very not fond of buffs and nerfs

[cedar flint]

definitely the 5m hp green fat fuck is not a powercreep

[rugged sparrow]

nerf is taboo on gacha game, anyway

see where it led with Neuv back in 4.7

[cedar flint]

what’s there not to like about free buffs

[bright cape]

like if my favorite characters don't get it, it feels like a nerf

[cedar flint]

oh nor they made my character good again how dare they

[bright cape]

say i like diluc.
if they buff everyone very well, but diluc was buffed with meh buff, i would feel bad

[quaint fern]

Wow neuvi is definitely unplayable

He needs ANOTHER teammate

[bright cape]

there will always be bottom of the barrel

[rugged sparrow]

Diluc is already giga strong with his premium option

[cedar flint]

in ineffa we trust

[bright cape]

it feels like slippery slope

[opal surge]

I think that was a throwaway example to be fair

[rugged sparrow]

can we buff Klee

[opal surge]

but c2 sac klee is op in one fight in the game

[cedar flint]

only change I want for Klee is her burst not dying the moment you leave the field

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

I don't get why ppl want Klee's burst to work off-field so bad

just slot XL bro

[cedar flint]

she probably would’ve been used to this day

[quaint fern]

Oh yeah so we know the elements for next IT? I'm too lazy to check patch notes rn

[rugged sparrow]

pyro hydro cryo

[bright cape]

i still see her in the speedrun of new endgame in 2nd chamber

[cedar flint]

50 burst cost

[rugged sparrow]

she's not 50

[cedar flint]

40

[rugged sparrow]

neither

[cedar flint]

or 60

[rugged sparrow]

60

[cedar flint]

either way she won’t need 300er like the stinky chef

[cedar flint]

and she can hold ttds

[rugged sparrow]

indeed

[cedar flint]

off field burst Klee would just be really dope

[bright cape]

this theatre is so free. i got all elements dps now

[cedar flint]

I will take her burst anyday over xianling

[rugged sparrow]

wait till u get hit by her janky burst hit mechanism

[cedar flint]

so far it’s fine

[opal surge]

tulpa is once again chasca fraudchecking Mav

[bright cape]

clearly we just need a support artifact that reduces defense

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca new wr?

[bright cape]

for nod krai

[rugged sparrow]

actually yeah I saw dhcwsp vid

[cedar flint]

what would be Klee premium team as a dps

[opal surge]

She had WR for a few days now yeah

[rugged sparrow]

Citlali Xianyun plunge

[opal surge]

its 13s on tulpa i th ink

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

but shes still not exalted on any server

[rugged sparrow]

Asia

[cedar flint]

plunge outside of varesa feel clunky and slow ngl

[rugged sparrow]

that's sadly still her most damaging team

as is for 90% of pyro DPSes

only Yoi and Lyney that don't have them as premium

[cedar flint]

cus they can’t pyro plunge

and well bow plunge is ass

[rugged sparrow]

even Xiao premium is Citlali Xianyun

and just never ult

[cedar flint]

qiqi premium team qiqi Bennett cloud Citlali

[rugged sparrow]

indeed

can pyro plunge? Cit + Xianyun is the solution
no infusion slot c6 Bennett

[cedar flint]

for some reason jump plunge always feel delayed idk why

[rugged sparrow]

some chars just have it that way

[bright cape]

why not ult?

[rugged sparrow]

Xiao ult gives anemo infusion

[cedar flint]

waste of time

[rugged sparrow]

how to melt

[cedar flint]

oh I thought you said xilo not xiao

[bright cape]

is that bad?

[cedar flint]

how will you melt with Citlali

[rugged sparrow]

sir we're talking about like c6r5 territory

[bright cape]

oh ok.

[cedar flint]

well I was referring to c0

[bright cape]

i have never seen gameplay like that

[cedar flint]

when I asked

[rugged sparrow]

well Xiao consts don't matter anyway

[cedar flint]

c6 Citlali is a monster

[cedar flint]

citlali tho

[bright cape]

i am still waiting for my c0

[rugged sparrow]

let's just say c6 Cit makes stupid pyro builds the new ceiling for chars that can perform it

[cedar flint]

2m plunge ga Ming

[rugged sparrow]

no idea for Klee, though I like burngeon with Emilie Furina Bennett

Xilo/Kaz instead of Emilie can probably reach same results

[cedar flint]

You lost me at Emilie

[rugged sparrow]

why

[cedar flint]

you lost me at xilo kaz

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1338920719589048320/888612380634927176-96.gif

[cedar flint]

I don’t have them

[rugged sparrow]

just Furina Bennett +1 then

[bright cape]

i now have dps for all elments except anemo

[cedar flint]

does baizu buff burgeon

[bright cape]

i hope they release a good one soon

[rugged sparrow]

burgeon yes but no reason to run Baizhu

[cedar flint]

well it’s not really a burgeon team without dendro tho no?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean the reason burngeon Klee works is Emilie

she dishes out stupid dmg

Klee's mostly an enabling on-fielder cuz she can battery her team so she wants off-fielders that also put in the work for her

hyperbuffing her almost never works from my experience

[cedar flint]

so you telling me esco wheelchair

[rugged sparrow]

real

[cedar flint]

since esco furina yelan is already around 70k dps

[rugged sparrow]

atp just run an actual useful on-fielder other than Klee

[cedar flint]

sure I can destroy it with varesa and skirk but we talking about having fun

[rugged sparrow]

playing Klee
having fun

[cedar flint]

https://tenor.com/view/klee-genshin-impact-klee-arson-klee-genshin-genshin-gif-26207383

[rugged sparrow]

the fun in question

[cedar flint]

well I will go dream about bombs or something

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-27535478

a bomb factory

you know this are bombs

[violet cipher]

Does support Chevruse need to build her talents? If so, which ones?

[hazy lotus]

if u don’t care about her damage no none of her buffs scale off talent level

[violet cipher]

ok, ty

Does pyro traveler for support need to build her talents?

[bright cape]

who is the best anemo dps?

[real shadow]

chasca but shes not really anemo

[bright cape]

ah i see

[real shadow]

very easy to use thi

tho

[bright cape]

i hope we get a new anemo soon.

that's the only one lacking now that i got cryo dps

[real shadow]

whats better for skirk as a weapon, black sword or finale of the deep

[real shadow]

chascas getting a rerun soon

[strange scarab]

finale

[strange scarab]

no leaks allowed in here

[real shadow]

oh no im just guessing

cuz her last banner was awhile ago sorry

[strange scarab]

[hazy lotus]

True i just have a really strong gut feeling

[crude dirge]

albedo

[violet cipher]

I'm running support Traveler for Arle against hydro Taulpa. Is this okay or do I need more crit or something?

Also, I have this Ororon or Fischl to support Chevruse/Xiangling/either HuTao or Clorinde. Should I use Ororon for buffs or does he not have enough cons to compete with Fischl?

Or should I give my C1 Raiden Fav and Tenacity to support the team instead?

[thorn bay]

She does a pretty decent-ish anemo dmg tho. Yea it’s pretty bad but she’s really good, very ez to use, build, and fun.

[thorn bay]

I hope but I think mualani come before

With kazuha jk

[strange scarab]

her anemo is negligible

[real shadow]

i got her on the banner with lyney

[ripe surge]

whats better build on skirk? crit cap mh but 196 cd? or not reach crit cap of 64 but has 220+ cd??

[bright cape]

how much crit do you reach with 220?

[ripe surge]

around 74 with jade cutter? with mistsplitter its around 55 but like high af cd

[bright cape]

is that after adding 36 from mh?

i would at least want to reach 85

[ripe surge]

thats before mh

74 base cr with jade cutter. 55 base cr with mistsplitter

[bright cape]

55 base one sounds nice

[zenith thicket]

is there a setting that lets me see the levels of people in stygian onslaught bc i just went citlali for a level 60 skirk and neuv 😭

in menacing

[bright cape]

damn.

i guess u can see if they have added it to their profile

or ask them in chat

[elder bluff]

You can see it when you choose characters to face the boss

[thorn bay]

Mist splitter is her 2nd best I believe, maybe 4th, ik jadecutter is 3rd

[tardy river]

Is Mauv Better than Bennett?

[neon harness]

cant rly be compared, theyre too different

TrashWatch

[forest venture]

👀

[neon harness]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/915180263003267094/1206004019340902410/lastborger.gif

[lyric cargo]

is this for theater? having enough chars who can carry floors?

because I found that my Kazuha and Venti almost count. there'll usually be some AoE floors when anemo is in theater

[bright cape]

it’s mostly for new restrictions

i am worried they will make boss like the cryo spinner where anemo dps will be kinda mandatory

[hazy lotus]

if that happens they will definitely release an anemo dps to sell with it

[opal surge]

They can't shill anemo

There's no anemo DPS that does damage

[lyric cargo]

hmm, possible but I expect it'll only happen if they make a new anemo dps
those kinds of bosses are always to sell a character

[crude dirge]

c6 kazuha 🤫

with xianyun

[lyric cargo]

I guess having a good anemo dps would've been one more way to kill Lava Dragon Statue
if there were any good ones 😅

anemo, geo, dendro, electro can deal good dmg in 2nd phase

[lyric cargo]

I tried Ifa

but, I mean, if my Navia was struggling..

[crude dirge]

i dont even have ifa and dahlia 🥀

but i have mizuki so i dont think that i need ifa

[hazy lotus]

Ifa might unironically be better than mizuki

[crude dirge]

xingqiu enabled

and yelan

we got 4* powercreeping five stars within couple patches

[grizzled walrus]

Guys I need help with the fearless version of tulpa

[distant leaf]

or dendro pyro combo

[grizzled walrus]

I can't pop his shield using Mavuika Xilonen Bennett Citlali for some reason

[distant leaf]

if you didnt know amber can insta proc lava dragons pyro shield

[strange scarab]

Riel or daem

[opal surge]

The ward doesn't care about reactions, so it's just about doing proper combos

[jolly junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYZOuUw8cf4

[opal surge]

You can try to time a double mavuika burst onto the shield if you can

[jolly junco]

c2 r1 xianyun and c6 xiao (xiao's cons do not do much here)

[crude dirge]

what bout the def increase on c4(i think) when below 50% hp

[opal surge]

There are quite a lot of more or less creAtive clears on lds, it's a much better boss than I expected

[grizzled walrus]

So I have to make sure I'm near a ward when I use Mav's burst?

[opal surge]

No, the shield from the actual tulpa is called a ward, sorry

[jolly junco]

it is a good boss

[grizzled walrus]

oh

I'll try to switch my sands if thats the case, thanks

[strange scarab]

I managed to deal shit ton of damage in 1 down phase with arle ben kaz xl i just cant take its shield down fast enough

[grizzled walrus]

I'm currently using mailed flower and em sands on her

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-skull-skull-skull-spinning-spin-spinning-gif-9100477621967381038

[jolly junco]

I reckon c0 xiao + c0 xianyun with c6 faru and bennett should be ok for fearless though, I could try it later

though I don't play xiao much anymore so probably wont be super optimised gameplay wise

[grizzled walrus]

maybe you can try switching either kaz or xl with nahida or emilie

[lyric cargo]

very nice.
My Xianyun is c1 without sig, I tried her briefly but with non-anemo plunge
Ga Ming / etc

[strange scarab]

nothing clears faster than raiden nahida xl arle for me

84s clear

[opal surge]

Raiden

[strange scarab]

i need to cut down 20s

[opal surge]

What the helly

[strange scarab]

Yeh she helps reapplying skandha mark

[opal surge]

Play melt mav no?

[strange scarab]

its for lds

[opal surge]

Yeah for lds

It's for sure Ur fastest team

[grizzled walrus]

I managed to beat the lava dragon in 95 secs using arle xiangling emilie kaz

[opal surge]

U have C4 mav

[strange scarab]

hm

[grizzled walrus]

but I can't replicate it anymore for some reason lmao

[strange scarab]

I havent really tried arle against tupla

[grizzled walrus]

I had better success with arle against tulpa than mavuika, which is weird

[jolly junco]

she's pretty good on tulpa

[opal surge]

this is for diff 5 right

[strange scarab]

Yas

[opal surge]

arle is good against tulpa yeah

[strange scarab]

Hmmm

[opal surge]

can do arle nahida tulpa melt mav lds

[grizzled walrus]

but my dilemma is if I use arle against tulpa, I don't have anyone good vs lava dragon

mav's attack speed ain't gonna cut it on the shield

[jolly junco]

youd basically be left with chevreuse teams, or kinich, or mualani

[opal surge]

post ur roster @grizzled walrus

[jolly junco]

assuming you use bennett with arle

[grizzled walrus]

for tulpa: mav, xilonen, bennett, citlali

for lava dragon: arle xiangling kazuha emilie

[jolly junco]

they've already done fearless I think sensi

[grizzled walrus]

for overseer: skirk, furina, ganyu, coffee

[opal surge]

oh ok

[opal surge]

wait no they havent, or?

[grizzled walrus]

only the tulpa is the remaining one I can't beat

[opal surge]

Your tulpa team is good just need to time mav burst properly and stay on mav during tulpa shield

[distant leaf]

asia?

[jolly junco]

you can either sweat attack combos doing like CDN1 or try to time it so you can hit 2 mav bursts on the shield

[opal surge]

fearless is not coopable

[distant leaf]

[grizzled walrus]

asia

[jolly junco]

you dont get rewards for coop

[distant leaf]

as he said fearless not coopable ye sadly

[jolly junco]

you can co-op it but you'll get nothing

[grizzled walrus]

yah

that's why I'm struggling

also, not a fan of coop

[viral mulch]

better not try to coop rn anyway cus evil kaveh is back on running

[crude dirge]

how do u even coop 😭

[viral mulch]

theres a match button

[crude dirge]

oh theres no coop for menacing

[grizzled walrus]

it starts at dif 4

[opal surge]

same world coop

[grizzled walrus]

you can only "coop" if they already joined your world before going to SO

[crude dirge]

turns out i have ifa
any team suggestions?

[neon wave]

all levels have co-op
can't match for 4+

[viral mulch]

but then you can just match for 3 then secretly change to 4 so

someone did that once when i rando matched for fun

[neon wave]

wait actually 😭

[opal surge]

om

[jolly junco]

I see kazuha as an exalted one again but I rarely see people actually use him

in dire clears

[opal surge]

I do think its funny that raiden is exalted and varesa isnt

but I guess more people own c2/c3 raiden than people own varesa

[rugged sparrow]

like u said Sensi

[neon wave]

Raiden is exalted????

[rugged sparrow]

exalted is more of a popularity contest than anything else

[neon wave]

Is this my day

[rugged sparrow]

[neon wave]

don't give me false hope

[viral mulch]

yea i was very seriously thinking if i should troll and let everyone die

but i didnt in the end

[viral mulch]

what even is exalted

[opal surge]

raiden is exalted yes

[rugged sparrow]

chars that clear dire difficulty the most

[jolly junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Fpj8j7bqc this looks fun to do in coop

[rugged sparrow]

they get "exalted" buff (20% atk mhp def)

for diff 1-5

[viral mulch]

oh thats called exalted

[opal surge]

when you clear dire you give your characters eminence, the characters with the most eminence get exalted serverwide

[crude dirge]

chat today im gonna do dailies first time since release of those resin into dailies points

cuz i dont have resin 😭

[neon wave]

I need all the help I can get
neuv exalt when (never )

[viral mulch]

maybe when they put a different boss in a different season

[opal surge]

are u using raiden on LDS

[neon wave]

idk what I'm using anymore
that was the plan

I'll figure it out later today

[viral mulch]

i do wonder what boss will they put on stygian when neuv reruns and theyll have to shill him on single target somehow

[jolly junco]

is there a rule somewhere that it has to be single target?

[opal surge]

[viral mulch]

well it seems to be all bosses at least

[neon wave]

lmao
aoe stygian is going to be fun

[opal surge]

Theyre gonna make it the fatui trio

[jolly junco]

our sample size is just 1 stygian though

[rugged sparrow]

inb4 bathysmal vishap

[viral mulch]

personally my bet is gonna be triple kenki

[rugged sparrow]

Nilou bloom stonks

[viral mulch]

i think theyll only gonna keep the boss rule and allow multitarget

[rugged sparrow]

triple Kenki is gonna be omega mald though for avg ppl

[lyric cargo]

I think they only shill chars people don't have

[viral mulch]

its omega mald for not avg ppl as well

[rugged sparrow]

for diff reasons

[neon wave]

trip kenki is fun
(I say now while it's not on)

[viral mulch]

i would believe theyll just shill whatever thats on banner that patch

[jolly junco]

I like triple kenki

[opal surge]

imagine playing triple kenki as someone who doesnt know that you can stop the one kenki from fucking off immediatly at the start of the fight

[rugged sparrow]

the RNG

[jolly junco]

it is satisfying watching all the numbers over my screen with bloom ayato

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

which is still unreliable cus when cryo kenki feels like it itll still run a marathon

[rugged sparrow]

I just accept the fact that cryo kenki is an asshole

if he dashes so let him be

[viral mulch]

tho funnily enough it actually helps you in solo because the base strat becomes let the cryo kenki dash then make the big ass cryo field on some random edge of the map then come back

[rugged sparrow]

yea

[viral mulch]

i personally wanna see like ruin serpent or something back in one of the endgame contents but none of those worm bosses shill a specific target so prob low chance by now

and i only want it back cus i wanna see ppl mald

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

mfw when wenut in onslaught

[viral mulch]

yea i feel like that prob wont happen cus it doesnt shill anybody

u just have to be phec

[neon harness]

youneedjesus~1

[viral mulch]

altho this made me think
next time furina reruns theyre gonna slap fuckin qucu into onslaught arent they oh god

[opal surge]

thats fine

literally everyone has furina so

[viral mulch]

i hate that thing still

[rugged sparrow]

wdym udont like it flying around randomly while being impossible to hit with Neuv midflight cuz vertical

[viral mulch]

neuv can hit it if you run to the edge and look up

[rugged sparrow]

[cedar flint]

I think they should put Childe in dire difficulty

fuck world bosses time for weekly

[wet plank]

You can always add mechanics

Base worm dig speed doubled and cryo slows it down to normal speed

[crude dirge]

team suggestions chat

[lyric cargo]

@opal surge idk if you still do artifact investigation sometimes

it seems we got a new final location tech, +6 spots

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo62YbewNNU

new final location showcase at 10m 16s

an explanation on what to watch out for is at the start
(there's an invisible boundary that makes some spots disappear if crossed)

[opal surge]

big

But no I dont really do artifact routes anymore, im doing okay on mora lately

[terse remnant]

@viral mulch

[primal latch]

How good is lions roar for clorinde? F2p weap

[strange scarab]

Mid

finale is free

[rugged sparrow]

Lion's Roar should be equal to Finale I'm guessing assuming 100% uptime?

makes me wanna try but idr if I have r5 Lion's Roar 90/90

[crude dirge]

like overload?

[rugged sparrow]

overload or just aggravate

assuming you can somehow keep electro aura up

[primal latch]

Im using overload

Thankss

[crude dirge]

when do i get team ideas

[primal latch]

Dont really have other for the lava boss in fearless

[rugged sparrow]

I mean Finale is free and would perform relatively similar anyway so

only way I can see Lion's Roar winning is when dmg% becomes a lot more important, which is in aggravate teams mostly

[primal latch]

I already got maxed lions roar so i was asking if it suck just in case

[rugged sparrow]

lemme test ig

oh I do have 90/90 r5 Lion's Roar

my Chev not c6 though so

[crude dirge]

do i level cheuv up first or farm for song of the days past

[primal latch]

Chev

[crude dirge]

shes lvl 40 🔥

[opal surge]

LR and finale are literally the same in overload

basically

[primal latch]

Thankss

[crude dirge]

keqing overload

[rugged sparrow]

is LR better in agg if you can miraculously 100% uptime it

cue Nahihi eating all electro aura

[opal surge]

uhh

its worse in agg better in qb

if good uptime

[rugged sparrow]

interesting

[opal surge]

but its like always really close to finale so

this is assuming same refinements th ough

[rugged sparrow]

ye

am I crazy or LR is a lot higher

lemme just use XL burst ig for better shred uptime

nvm re-tested and numbers kinda similar now
wtf is wrong on my first recording then

oh nvm I realized Iansan didn't proc Cinder on 1st recording

[opal surge]

Its possible that iansan also shifts it a lil, I havent resheeted since

Especially if ur ch ev is also on nob

[rugged sparrow]

my Chev is on Nob ye

but not c6 cuz

how to swirl electro

am greeding so hard

[opal surge]

press l and swap iansan to fischl to swirl electro

[rugged sparrow]

real...

but muh buffs

[jolly junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_IQdXbkfw4 t

c0 r1 homa xiao, c0 r5 fav xianyun, c6 r5 fav faruzan, c6 r1 skyward bennett

[rugged sparrow]

LAMENT

[jolly junco]

:lament:

[viral mulch]

?

[terse remnant]

rare to see a triple atk raiden

[lyric cargo]

1 down phase rotations seem pretty clutch
really expands the pool of chars that can do it

[opal surge]

doesnt matter if raiden is triple atk in taser

its not like shes the one doing damage

[jolly junco]

yep

i doubt there will be many people whose best option is xiao, but it is viable!

wouldn't be a go-to recommendation though the investment check is moderately high

[rugged sparrow]

homa Xiao, whel

[jolly junco]

granted I don't really play xiao much anymore so my gameplay could be better

[opal surge]

I wish tulpa didn't have this stupid ward, way more teams would be able to deal with it on dire if it didnt

Or at least some more

[rugged sparrow]

wdym u dont have Mavuika

[lyric cargo]

I have to say, Stygian Onslaught artifact farming is very comfortable
not having to change teams back and forth, when you go in and back to overworld

[feral forge]

@jolly junco c1 skirk or r1?

[cedar flint]

I think they’re around the same ngl but weapon banner is more scummy

[primal latch]

Is tulpa in fearless always regen? Or im just not doing it properly

[cedar flint]

also c1 makes galleries even worse in case you were using it

do you kill the mini tulpa in time?

as well as breaking the shield

[primal latch]

I think? I use nahida jusy for the mini tulpas but maybe just her is not enough?

[wet plank]

Now do it trio

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1qqKJznE8J

[cedar flint]

she should be enough if you mark them all when they appear and attack the main one

[pearl marsh]

Is Neuv C1, escoffier, Xilonen and furina a viable team?

[cedar flint]

not really

[near prism]

xiao lowkey crazy tf

[cedar flint]

I would replace esco

[near prism]

are you telling me fav xiao with faruzan and benny is enough dps for fearless 😭

[cedar flint]

But I guess it would do fine

[dim hill]

are there any hidden quests related to these saurian crackers? i bought them from a food shop in natlan, is it just in my bag to look pretty?

[cedar flint]

aren’t those the crackers you get during the archon quest celebration

if you got them from a store maybe it’s for ppl who miss it during the quest?

[dim hill]

oh lol, its in the description. "keep them as an uneaten memento"

[dim hill]

seems likely this too

[cedar flint]

where did you bought them I didn’t know it was a thing during the quest so I didn’t pick them up

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365722210677035018/1371034690768601190/attachment.gif

[cedar flint]

Ok thanks

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/canto-6-the-heartbreaking-limbus-company-project-moon-heathcliff-gif-2272971903540460311

that catherine?

[jolly junco]

the artifact investment is too good, I can't replicate that

[wet plank]

[jolly junco]

this is on 4pc LNO

[rotund osprey]

Can anyone help with Stygian?

[jolly junco]

if you mean suggesting teams then yes, if you mean co-op help then no

[strange scarab]

Hmm whats the strategy for mav xilo cit kaz against lava

[opal surge]

its definitely to not play kazuha

[rugged sparrow]

why are you torturing yourself

[trail nymph]

If using Skirk and Furina, what other 2 can be used for a good team? Not Citlali as she is on my Mavuika team. TIA 😊

[opal surge]

the idea is that you break with one unit, benett, pmc etc, and one rotate the remaining hp with mav melt for diff 5

[strange scarab]

desperate times calls for desperate measure

[jolly junco]

for stygian?

[opal surge]

do you have eshu? If yes then it should be layla + mika/charlotte

If not then layla can be replaced with xq or mona, but I think I would personally still just play layla

[trail nymph]

yeah I have Eshu 🙂

[trail nymph]

yeah, or spiral abyss

[jolly junco]

for stygian should be layla and charlotte

that will also work for abyss but mika is better than charlotte usually I believe

it's just that the flow momentum buildup rate in stygian is harsher

[opal surge]

Id just go for charlotte, mika is not much better and he lacks the app for onslaught

+ its mika

[trail nymph]

haha

thanks both 🙂

[near prism]

he is quite a bit better for skirk's personal dps when you dont have to worry about flow momentum buildup

[strange scarab]

ok i replaced kaz with bennett what now

[opal surge]

whats the current ceiling combo with mika?

its an extra n5 or

[near prism]

i believe so

[opal surge]

E n2q 3n5d n2cd n2 n4 -> E n2q 3n5d n2cd 2n5?

[bright cape]

is this worth it?

i have a feeling i can clear fearless difficulty

[rugged sparrow]

I mean depends on your stardust, you basically just need to secure enough monthly

[opal surge]

I buy this when I can but I also didnt have enough glitter to buy monthly wishes last month

take this how you will

[rugged sparrow]

if you have like 10k stardust you can basically just buy anything you want on the shop

[bright cape]

ok. i am doing it. skirk's low talent levels seems like bottleneck for now

should have not wasted it on brust

looks like it's gonna take more than 100k mora.

they should have kept the weekly bounties

[opal surge]

time for you to join that one persons mora runs

[bright cape]

how many can we get?

or i can just wait a couple of hours to do mora leylines

[opal surge]

you have a lot of time by the way to clear onslaught, its only the artifact farming period that ends soon

[bright cape]

oh right. i forgot about that.
is it possible to clear this in remaining time?

i will be getting a fragile from battlepass and may be 1 fragile from theatre

lemme try changing some builds

[strange scarab]

[bright cape]

i also realized i only have one noblesse on my account

even that could have helped charlotte

[strange scarab]

what would the full team look like

i got 74s on lds with mav melt and uh arle's gimped

[opal surge]

yeah

[opal surge]

thats slower than I thought youd get with mav melt

u are onerotating? is the break just slow?

[strange scarab]

again, mailed flower is my Achilles heel

[strange scarab]

i did one rot it after a few attempts yes

I think i wasted 4s cuz it started to move again

Though the issue would be arle, 50s in and shes only halfway thru

[opal surge]

maybe its cooked

[strange scarab]

i used arle pmc xl nahida

[thorn bay]

Firina/charlote Lynette Bennett (that’s the best I can think of but sensi and hidden will prob give better iones)

[jolly junco]

it doesn't work if you mean mavuika as an on-field dps

[thorn bay]

I don’t know

[opal surge]

I think its ideal to not play mavuika

[thorn bay]

Oh sensi here

[opal surge]

for a non natlan team

[jolly junco]

you need fighting spirit generation

[rugged sparrow]

Clorinde Chev Fischl

[opal surge]

true

[thorn bay]

Tryye

[jolly junco]

yeah unironically something like that

[rugged sparrow]

c6 Sara also goodge instead of Fischl but I don't have c6 Sara so

[jolly junco]

using ororon/iansan is better than fischl but if you really don't want to use any natlan units then

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[thorn bay]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-loop-gif-25594440

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145399555148480553/1389199381043089448/attachment-12.gif

waiting 7 hours for team suggestions is tuff

[thorn bay]

What about never

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-explode-cat-cat-explode-hailuo-cat-hailuo-explode-gif-5861061993465204333

[primal cypress]

which one has better RV?

[thorn bay]

2nd

[primal cypress]

gotcha ty!

[quaint fern]

first

620 vs 610 if EM is useless

even if EM is useful you'd still get higher RV with the first

[normal halo]

Looking for EU(especially Austrians/Germans) friends to add in-game. DM me for UID

[wild meadow]

how much damage does chlorine have to do per pistol shots in order to have enough dps

if possible also for varesa per plunge if i replace chlorine with varesa

[dreamy solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1058978696578482217/1389262625929691226/IMG_0878.png?ex=6863fb25&is=6862a9a5&hm=adbbe108f892fb8cd264847c5e05ce4b2c78b7fe15be6e11cda38d60e60df6c6&

am i dumb what is this 4 day timer for is it for the 1200 resin or the fearless etclevels. in other words should i prioritize finishing fearless in the next 4 days or should i prioritize using 1200 resin

[thorn bay]

Cl is the 17th element in the periodic table

[jolly junco]

i think the dire commendation thing is separate

[wild meadow]

its seperate

[jolly junco]

yes, so there's no rush to complete fearless

[wild meadow]

dire thing last until next rotation

[dreamy solar]

so the 4 day limit is for dire commendation , and i have 28 days ish to do fearless right

[wild meadow]

yes, basically

[jolly junco]

I dunno exactly but good builds without 5* weapons should be sufficient for fearless

[wild meadow]

which am pulling out my hair trying to think of a team and builds to cover boss 1 and 2

[wild meadow]

i do have some weapons

just not her sig

[dreamy solar]

okay yeah cuz i need to build charlotte to beat the last boss so ill do that slowly and use my resin on 1200 for now. btw @wild meadow i used chloride for tulpa

[wild meadow]

am using haran on clorind now

[bright cape]

@opal surge it was worth the stardust.

[quaint fern]

hyperbloom works on first half

[strange scarab]

Okay i managed to do 70s on lava

[bright cape]

@quaint fern i did it without escoffier too

[strange scarab]

still struggling with tulpa

[wild meadow]

aside naheeda and kuki, whos the last 2 you put ?

[bright cape]

3rd chamber is definitely a cryo on-fielder check

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1294733495343517826/928515871553495091.gif

[quaint fern]

is tulpa really that hard without citlali??

[jolly junco]

I can send you my clear if you think it will help

I used that team for dire at c0 r1 clorinde

[wild meadow]

send pls

i need referencess

[jolly junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKCdivhZki8

[quaint fern]

I ended up doing this, you can slot whatever off-field you want instead of dmc and fischl

[wild meadow]

ooowh dmc, got it

[bright cape]

i dunno. i also don't have her.
i tried to copy you as much as possible.

[opal surge]

mr guoballs is going for time not for clear

[bright cape]

nvm. they are exactly the same

[quaint fern]

I thought that mavuika would have cleared faster

[quaint fern]

no i sc'ed yours

[opal surge]

om

he took your screenshot

[bright cape]

oh my bad

i am dumb

[quaint fern]

I ended up getting like 4 sec improvement on chambers 1 and 2

I'm still not too sure about dmc but w/e

[wild meadow]

c6 chevrusee

[quaint fern]

I might try on field baizhu

[jolly junco]

shouldn't be necessary for fearless

[bright cape]

@quaint fern citlali not required but those minions die in one touch of cryo. so i used kaeya on sac

it was quite fun

[wild meadow]

my ahh want one

[quaint fern]

isn't mav using some weird combo for this

[bright cape]

i just make donuts

[quaint fern]

like CA D or smth

[wild meadow]

ill learn your rotation later, now want to try out tulpa with hyperbloom

[bright cape]

yah. that's optimized one where u get most amount of vapes

[opal surge]

6CADN1 yeah

its ideal in all scenarios where you cant lose aura

triple cryo etc

[bright cape]

@quaint fern anyways after seeing ur clear, i was pretty sure i could do it in 2 minutes.

like u did it in almost a minute.

so seemed possible with skirk

[quaint fern]

tulpa RNG was a bit bad

sometimes it seemed like it would spawn the minis and then immediately start absorbing

[bright cape]

with mavuika the only issue is sometimes the minis would spawn very far away

[quaint fern]

that boss was definitely the most frustrating to do

[bright cape]

most of the times mavuika burst will take both minis

[quaint fern]

yeah sometimes this would happen too

and idk how, but sometimes nahida hold E would miss those buggers???

so that was a reset

[bright cape]

i failed to use hyperbloom on that chamber

[opal surge]

tbf thtas c2 furina c2 sshenhe and escoffier xd

[quaint fern]

it was pretty crazy how much slower it was without escoffier

[bright cape]

i still think skirk is the main damage dealer though. so

[opal surge]

i go from ~53seconds to not clearing with and without escoffier

albeit my charlotte is lvl 20 so

[quaint fern]

idk the dps share, but esco and furina really do wheelchair the team

[bright cape]

i gave ttds to charlotte. i think that also helped a lot

[quaint fern]

yeah that's pretty big

[bright cape]

my final slash on skirk was over 100k

[quaint fern]

I think I could have improved my escoffier-less clear if I had timed thing better

[bright cape]

when all buffs aligned

[quaint fern]

I honestly not too sure what my TTDS uptime was on that clear

[strange scarab]

Gotdamn

[bright cape]

ttds refreshes every 20 s

rotation is also similar

i think it's very good team

[quaint fern]

yeah but I dont think I spent 20 sec generating energy at the beginning

[bright cape]

first one is weird. i just do the normal rotation

[quaint fern]

or really paid too close attention to my rotation, I wasn't too tight on time so I didn't really need to

[bright cape]

around 75% damage without all buffs

[opal surge]

you cant fk up ttds

[quaint fern]

just make sure 20s passes or smth

[opal surge]

its not possible on skirk

[quaint fern]

well if you swap into charlotte before it refreshes...

[opal surge]

well yeah but

[quaint fern]

you'll miss it on 2nd rotation

[opal surge]

thats like not possible to do

[quaint fern]

unless you're me

[opal surge]

i mean you swap to charlotte after furina

so unless you cut skirk uptime short and dont skill on furina

its completely impossible to be below 20s

if ur under 20s u cant skill on furina

unless you do eq -> qe -> stall on third