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crude dirge
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yelan cuz i have no idea who to put

rugged sparrow
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so u have 2 semi-dead slots

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and wonder why you're not doing jack

crude dirge
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still arle does like 60k per na

lyric cargo
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I wonder how Fischl would do there over Yae

dendro can never take over, so it should have EC aura
any time whoever is on-field triggers a reaction, there should be an A4 proc?

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ah, you already said it

rugged sparrow
crude dirge
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do i just hyperbloom tulpa's ass

rugged sparrow
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peeposhrug I did it albeit with some vertical invest

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then again you're on diff4 so

bright cape
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is iansan c6 better than xilonen c0? for this team

rugged sparrow
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should be

bright cape
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oh ok

rugged sparrow
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Tulpa's res already in the negatives even with just Citlali I believe so

crude dirge
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what will xilonen actually do here
if citlali is on scroll
just res shred and some heal

strange scarab
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petra

rugged sparrow
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scroll and petra for Tulpa, amazing

strange scarab
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ins

bright cape
strange scarab
rugged sparrow
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as does scroll

bright cape
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yah. even scrolls is useless cri

rugged sparrow
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tenacity noblesse angle

strange scarab
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Also thanks for that i finally beat my friends record

rugged sparrow
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ok now rub it on their faces

strange scarab
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tomorrow for sure now theyre sleeping

crude dirge
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'haha my whale c6r5 ahh did better than ar 30 f2p'🔥 🔥

bright cape
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i don't have the slashed ones.

rugged sparrow
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slashed dreams

bright cape
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after citlali, should i go for escoffier first or skirk?

rugged sparrow
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uh

delicate jewel
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Escoffier

rugged sparrow
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hard to say but leaning to Escoff yes

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just in case Skirk got powercrept / there are other cryo DPSes that interest u

bright cape
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sounds reasonable, if i had her, i could have used neuvi in final chamber

crude dirge
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i have esco and yelan
but i have 0 pity and 50/50 on banners AND i need xiphos from weapon banner😭

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theres no way im getting skirk

bright cape
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why not? MilizeConfused

rugged sparrow
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why do u need Xiphos again

bright cape
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she looks great if u have esco

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
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r1 Xiphos?

crude dirge
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literally anything

rugged sparrow
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shit's worse than Fav until r4

bright cape
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i use it on my kuki too.

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it's not that bad of weapon

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
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for Kuki yes
for Kaz u need high refines

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
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sounds like a you problem

crude dirge
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i use r5 sac rn

bright cape
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both my nahida and alhaitham lack a bit of er. xiphos r3 makes it enough

rugged sparrow
crude dirge
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works good

bright cape
crude dirge
bright cape
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there's enough time left on banner. u can get 4-5 pulls easy

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theatre's coming too

crude dirge
crude dirge
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woohoo 2 or 3 pulls!

viral mulch
viral mulch
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it was 43

rugged sparrow
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close

viral mulch
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switch up the numbers a lil

wise geyser
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hello ^^ i need help farming inazuma talent books on my other acc until I lvl my ayaka talents to 888
Asia server 834747678

viral mulch
opal surge
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smoge

bright cape
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i gave up on 5

quaint fern
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Wordle 1,467 4/6

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lyric cargo
bright cape
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u got my dream team right there

rugged sparrow
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must be some nightmares you're having

bright cape
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i want citlali then escoffier

rugged sparrow
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for a Mavuika team?

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and Diona to boot, too?

bright cape
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yep her and neuvillette

rugged sparrow
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5 units in a team

bright cape
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i got diona already

delicate jewel
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Guys I'm not crazy right this fine for no sig on her set SignoraCope

rugged sparrow
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cr wherege

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otherwise looks fine

delicate jewel
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On my cryo application

rugged sparrow
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definitely can be improved

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
delicate jewel
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My MH ofc mogs this set but I want alternative

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Since I don't want her to be furina binded

lyric cargo
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well, there's a chance they'll always put a special guest hydro but it might not be furina

delicate jewel
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YeahQiqiLurk

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Hopefully this is enough for any future theater

rugged sparrow
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theater bar is so low anyway when you consider the buffs you're getting

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
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should be possible still, she has decent raw MV doesn't she

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  • at least u can run her with Escoffier
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if Skirk cant carry, Escoff will smile

wide dirge
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Finally managed to kill the lava guy... Thank you all for helping me 😭

rugged sparrow
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berry nice

viral mulch
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strawberry

wide dirge
rugged sparrow
wide dirge
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Man, I really need more const on Chev

rugged sparrow
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same

wide dirge
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I saw a guy who used my exact same team, but with more const. And he managed to finish it easily

viral mulch
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dont worry theres ppl who cant beat with more cons on same team

neon wave
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ok I'm missing natlan bitch only Blub maybe I do have to build kaeya

rugged sparrow
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what team have u tested rei

neon wave
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just neuv furi esco cit

mental ether
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Anyone want to coop stygian onslaught, need help with lavadragon specifically, im NA

rugged sparrow
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oh rough

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I think this SSAOD just won't work with only double off-field cryo

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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it's way cringier than abyss ver

rugged sparrow
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got all the tools uhuhu

hazy lotus
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is dire doable without cons or do i just suck

viral mulch
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the issue is skill

rugged sparrow
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doable but u need specific units

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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so if u don't have either or L

opal surge
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can u test a run with ur lvl 70 kaeya dont need to build him just to see how the res of the guy is

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just give him ER

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I dont know if its cooked without cons on kaeya

neon wave
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what team
neu furi kaeya esco?

opal surge
hazy lotus
languid steeple
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Hello, I need three people for the new Abyss.

wide dirge
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This might have been as painful as the hydro/cryo lector abyss

opal surge
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if you can get kaeya burst at the very start with neuv E > furina E > coffe E (funnel into kaeya) then maybe kaeya just shits on the boss

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idk

neon wave
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i try

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duck he got oneshotted

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uhuhu one sec

wide dirge
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Can a whale please destroy the lava guy three times for me? I need someone to take revenge for me

lyric cargo
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hmm, so I was able to switch an artifact VentiLipBite
is my clear now somehow invalid?

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(screenshot is from the event description, it's not an error that came up or anything like that)

bright cape
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i see

viral mulch
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think u get a popup to reset when needed

lyric cargo
wide dirge
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I might just farm for the primos in the future, the feather is not worth it

lyric cargo
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I like how we're still able to change the other teams
I was assuming I'd have to redo my entire clear if I want to make a change

lyric cargo
wide dirge
viral mulch
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wasted reroller in every case

wide dirge
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😭

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I've used 9 elixir and now 4 feathers. Still got trash

lyric cargo
opal surge
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wait I can kinda see the vision with kaeya im trying it myself

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but my neuvi is terrible and my kaeya is lvl 20

rugged sparrow
# hazy lotus wat units

from my observation
Tulpa just straight up needs Mav + Cit
LDS is Kinich + Emilie or a good OL Varesa team
SSAOD is Escoff + Wrio/Skirk
diff6 assuming c0r1s anyway

wide dirge
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Is there a chance that they're going to lower the difficulty next time? 🙏

rugged sparrow
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who knows

viral mulch
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prob not

wide dirge
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:(

viral mulch
hazy lotus
viral mulch
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prob not gonna be half hp material but if youre not dash cancelling on mavu then do that

opal surge
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the mav dire clear with c0 mav is by far the hardest one to play

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mechanically

viral mulch
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but it also looks cooler than making donuts HeheSmile

wide dirge
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Donuts are cooler

viral mulch
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no cool with no cool dmg

wide dirge
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:(, but spin

neon wave
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is not working

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Might be skill issue but

opal surge
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yeah i just tried it myself rotation is kinda susge

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you have to prio uptime on kaeya and escoffier but it doesnt align well with neuv furina

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so youre playing a super dynamic rotation its a bit meh

tropic heart
lyric cargo
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it was quite the game of dodgeball, playing that healerless

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like Mavuika, Tighnari died at the end but it was low enough I was able to finish kek

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part of me wonders if I'll regret using Fischl there
I could've brought Ororon, but he probably steals hyperblooms

upside to keeping Fischl would've been that she can snapshot Bennett / Iansan buff against Lava Dragon

opal surge
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this is probably not very useful but Yelan clears this thing more easily than neuvilette

neon wave
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lmao

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It's doable with noob

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almost had it

opal surge
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are u doing kaeya still?

neon wave
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nop

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Esco cit

opal surge
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I jsut took my neuv pieces and put them on yelan and I managed to get a clear ICANT

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but this is with r2 chasca sig

lyric cargo
late locust
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how does one beat this

opal surge
neon wave
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I can try yelange

lyric cargo
late locust
lyric cargo
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either cryo or dendro are good against the mini tulpas

opal surge
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i think neuv prolly better tbh im just terrible on neuv + my neuv build sucks

late locust
opal surge
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im genuinely just a bad neuv player I keep loosing my balls

late locust
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how do i beat battlefield 1 and 2 tho i struggle even on the difficulty before this one

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
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so you'd need a lot more pyro to clear it, plus they spawn far apart from each other

late locust
lyric cargo
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can't really run overload against Tulpa, since there's no way to have cryo or dendro

late locust
lyric cargo
late locust
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do i keep XL for the dragon?

lyric cargo
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I'm not sure
in theory she's good against both Tulpa and Dragon

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I'd probably try the team you're less certain about first

late locust
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i cant use her twiceKokoShock

late locust
lyric cargo
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well, if you don't know then just pick one I guess

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it's more of a gut feeling thing for me, the team with chars that are less well built / etc

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since if you clear with the team you're confident about and then need a char on the other side, you'll have to redo both

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I did the Tighnari Nahida Raiden Fischl thing first since I was certain the only char I'd want on the other side is Fischl

late locust
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i feel like im not doing enough dmg honestly

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i mena i could run tighnari raiden fischl and another dendro character right?

lyric cargo
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Collei, maybe? though her range isn't big enough to hit both mini tulpas

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which is really the problem with most dendro chars except Nahida

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you can try your remaining cryo chars as well
I could see ttds Charlotte work, she should be able to hit both mini tulpas with one skill
though idk how useful she is otherwise

dull smelt
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which flower should i use on arlecchino?

lyric cargo
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I wanna know how well tf Bennett does against Lava Dragon
but don't wanna strongbox TF just to try kek

lyric cargo
dull smelt
lyric cargo
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there's also calulating atk * (1 + cr * cd)
but you have to take all your buffs into account

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if it's too complicated, using optimizer becomes easier

dull smelt
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ok one sec

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i have another piece i want an opinion on

lyric cargo
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you have Bennett on her team, I assume? who else?

dull smelt
quaint fern
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Oh yeah how does stygian work anyways? Do we need to clear within 10 days for the primo & reroll rewards or is that the period we can claim with resin? Or both?

opal surge
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you have all patch to claim rewards

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10 days to farm with resin

uneven merlin
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does anyone know a good team for skirk?

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i have citlali, furina, c1 dahlia, layla, c6 xingqiu

verbal wasp
uneven merlin
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awesome sauce thanks

verbal wasp
opal surge
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or mika if you have either

verbal wasp
opal surge
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they have barbara at worst case

verbal wasp
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True 😂

hoary fulcrum
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thank youu

viral mulch
viral mulch
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what else

rugged sparrow
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surely Shenhe's buffs should outweight it

viral mulch
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i would assume that was his first instinct then swapped and found out its better

rugged sparrow
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hmm

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Shenhe has faster ult frames too

viral mulch
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also i got nothing in the domain today but box gave this

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so hey actually good piece today

rugged sparrow
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congrats arthurfist

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also the random Chev

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ig Symphonist

viral mulch
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  • 4d chess play for instant multi pyro app while being able to get the burst quick
uneven merlin
rugged sparrow
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was thinking of PMC with Cinder + Freedom

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but they take longer than 20s to kill LDS

viral mulch
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dhc did pmc on tulpa then bennett on lava

rugged sparrow
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wonder if the 40% dendro during res up would've been enough cutout

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yeah saw dhc with PMC on Tulpa

viral mulch
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got like 70s but he mentioned he cant use the ganyu strat on overseer so

rugged sparrow
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lowkey think Iansan could be fitted instead of Chev idk

viral mulch
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iansan wouldnt be able to cast burst on first rot

rugged sparrow
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with enough ER she can Yupge

viral mulch
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well you at least has to give up on fork buff

rugged sparrow
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ye

viral mulch
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also ig like just triggering gimmick faster is just more important

rugged sparrow
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that's what I thought too but it was like

viral mulch
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also chev c6 works there anyway right

rugged sparrow
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Chev Q and E

viral mulch
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not like it matters much

opal surge
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I like how the mav run is just literally the average mavuika rotation but it just kills the tulpa

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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yea ok who cares about that part

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its just faster gimmick trigger better ig xdding

rugged sparrow
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just thinking if it could've been anyone else

uneven merlin
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nah i js didn’t know anything abt her teams

viral mulch
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i dont rly have one in mind personally

rugged sparrow
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actually crazy idea

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Amber omegadance

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12s CD and u just fill with double Klee E

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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can Elegy too for that phat 20% atk

viral mulch
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40% cus r5

rugged sparrow
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right

viral mulch
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wait are we cookin or are we cookin

rugged sparrow
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honestly I think Amber can fit? since her burst ticks ~27 times right

viral mulch
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18

spark mantle
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i know im not getting skirk so i gotta pick a cryo to max out

rugged sparrow
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eh only 18

viral mulch
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how much is chev q hitcount anyway

rugged sparrow
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she spawns like 8?

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mines

viral mulch
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hey thats less than 18

rugged sparrow
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it's definitely a lot lower than Amber yeah

viral mulch
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u do miss out on some atk buff cus r5 fork is 64%

rugged sparrow
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pretty sure if you do like double Klee E > Amber funnel u get instant Q

viral mulch
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if chev can get her burst there then amber surely can as well

rugged sparrow
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then after first Kinich bungee u funnel again for 2nd Q

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also Amber got 2 bunnies but ig animation? hmmge

viral mulch
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would u even e unless youre swap timer locked anyway

rugged sparrow
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should be cuz ure catching Klee's particles

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they did use Chev E but yeah

opal surge
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Oh that's quite close to the wr

rugged sparrow
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nice number

opal surge
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Is everyone just a klee abuser SMH

rugged sparrow
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and 2s shorter on Skirk side

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I mean longer in comparison to WL

opal surge
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Yee

viral mulch
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i should remember myself to sac klee next time i try

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i first did with evenstar and just didnt try again

rugged sparrow
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5x bombs do solve problems

viral mulch
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bombombakudanbombombakudanbombombakudan

jolly junco
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i cant do dire

rugged sparrow
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george no...

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you were the chosen one cri

jolly junco
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im like, 1-2 constellations off

rugged sparrow
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who hurt u

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Tulpa?

jolly junco
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the problem is that I need arlecchino for tulpa

viral mulch
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ripge

rugged sparrow
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so you're stuck with cope options on LDS

jolly junco
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I can get it below 5% with mualani

rugged sparrow
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NEED A SUR-

jolly junco
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but not dead

rugged sparrow
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hm

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what team did u run for LDS

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Mua XL?

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or PMC

jolly junco
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mualani, xilonen, nahida, mavuika

rugged sparrow
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a

jolly junco
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if I had even xilonen r1 it might be enough

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or her c2

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or mavuika's c2

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or mualani's c3

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but alas, I am damage gapped

rugged sparrow
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con did it with c2 Mua hmm

opal surge
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Do you not have varesa?

jolly junco
rugged sparrow
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but idr his exact teams

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a phooey

opal surge
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Or are U playing Arle OL on tulpa already

rugged sparrow
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fucking whale

jolly junco
opal surge
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Unfortunate

jolly junco
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and arle is my only way of clearing tulpa

rugged sparrow
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c3r1 whel

jolly junco
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c0 mavuika not enough damage

rugged sparrow
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enough with an asterisk

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gotta sweat ur balls playing it

opal surge
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There is a c0r1 mav clear on it but it looks insanely mald and it's literally 120s

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I would not even try that

rugged sparrow
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frame perfect looking ahh

jolly junco
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my citlali and xilonen are also c0r0 and my iansan who could replace xilonen is c2 so..

rugged sparrow
opal surge
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Yeah it's cooked

rugged sparrow
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also u mean replace Xilo

jolly junco
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yes

opal surge
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I can only clear ssaod YEP

rugged sparrow
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I cant clear anything

opal surge
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Clorinde is honestly not even close to clearing lds

bright cape
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will skirk be able to clear d5 without escoffier?

opal surge
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It's so far

rugged sparrow
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d5 maybe

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d6 no way

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unless c6 Skirk for some reason

bright cape
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i think i should pull skirk EulaThink_Eri

opal surge
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I have seen a c0r0 skirk clear on ssaod diff 5 with shenhe and charlotte

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But I wouldn't pull skirk just to clear diff 5

rugged sparrow
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^

bright cape
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she is a good cryo dps right?

rugged sparrow
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she is

opal surge
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I will say it doesn't look super comfy for her to clear diff 5 without coffee

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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59.6

opal surge
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I would even go as far as saying it looks pretty difficult

rugged sparrow
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imagine it doesn't crit

bright cape
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oh ok. then i will pull on her.
sometimes when neuvi doesn't work she can make furina work.

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i am fine with that

rugged sparrow
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gl

opal surge
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One sec

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Would you pull skirk if you ended up not being able to clear diff 5 with her?

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If you are shenhe and coffee less?

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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it's probably a backup plan for other endgame content idk

jolly junco
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I think the only way I could do lava dragon on dire is to critfish on mualani, and im not willing to do that

rugged sparrow
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NEED A SUR-

opal surge
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Yeah just checking I don't them to think that skirk is an auto pass at ssaod

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If that's the primary motivation

rugged sparrow
bright cape
rugged sparrow
uneven merlin
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bro what does 2N5 even mean

opal surge
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I think the chances are quite good that you will either not clear or have very big trouble clearing

bright cape
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i am thinking of using skirk, furina, layla and kaeya

viral mulch
opal surge
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Without shenhe and Escoffier

rugged sparrow
bright cape
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i am so cooked 😭

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i will hold

opal surge
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Ssaod is more of an Escoffier check than it is a skirk check

rugged sparrow
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^

uneven merlin
rugged sparrow
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what does the string suggest

uneven merlin
rugged sparrow
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if it's 2n5 then there's no CA

uneven merlin
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idek man they’re using weird stuff

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ref they’re using hieroglyphics again

rugged sparrow
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which part do you exactly not get

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2n5 CA 2n5 just means what you mentioned yes

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NA 1 2 3 4 5
NA 1 2 3 4 5
CA
NA 1 2 3 4 5
NA 1 2 3 4 5

uneven merlin
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okay everything after skirk EQ

uneven merlin
rugged sparrow
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whether it being optimal idk

alpine vessel
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can anyone help in eu with new even v4 with skirk ?

uneven merlin
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EQ is elemental thing

rugged sparrow
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E is elemental skill, Q is elemental burst yes

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d = dash (usually inserted to cancel backswings / long animations)

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t/h = tap / hold (depending on the skill)

uneven merlin
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thanks man

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very appreciated 🙏🙏

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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how is your rv tanking so hard on 2nd pic

viral mulch
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flower feather diff

rugged sparrow
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err

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EM modcheck

viral mulch
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citlalis there dw

rugged sparrow
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does opti suggest atk sands actually

viral mulch
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also u know how much solo mavu im gonna run

rugged sparrow
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ah yes

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future proofing artifact set alrd

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like I did to my Wrio and cope till I got his c6 omegadance

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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(I was running like 50% cr pre-c6)

viral mulch
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to be fair

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surely solo means 0.4 cr isnt gonna hit as big right CLUELESS

rugged sparrow
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im just gonna wait u post a Mav vid and rant about not critting

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remember ur Mika incident

viral mulch
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idk im sure the first one is better but it just

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feels ugly to look at

rugged sparrow
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it's 300 more atk vs. ~12% cdmg

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surely atk wins...

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pretend u always crit xdd

viral mulch
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6 atk sub vs 2 cd sub its like very obvious atk wins

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but it just feels so ugly ICANT

rugged sparrow
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it's ok u'll get cr cdmg card

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makes up for the missing 0.4%

viral mulch
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now im curious lemme run full team opti

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it makes me steal my arle flower

atomic tide
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just lost on the weapon banner to shenhe’s weapon, can i use her weapon for like anyone else? cause i dont have her

opal surge
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Iansan or Escoffier

atomic tide
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me when i don’t have either

bright cape
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i sometimes cannot e on tulpa. is it a bug?

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alhaitham hyperbloom is not working for 1st one 😫

lyric cargo
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Alh, Nahida, Kuki, Fischl?

valid anchor
median glade
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I thought u pulled skirk didn't u❓

bright cape
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i saw a youtube video he cleared with around 25 seconds remaining. title was Stygian Onslaught 5.7 Fearless Mode : 4-Star Team & C0R1 5-Star DPS Gameplay Showcase

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later only dps was c0

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many supports were c6 or c6r1 kek

valid anchor
bright cape
valid anchor
bright cape
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i think that layla tech might be useful to me

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too many times that stupid one has regenereated his health

viral mulch
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either youre a japanese or youre a whale 🧠 ✍️

valid anchor
quaint fern
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Surely burning tighnari will work

bright cape
bright cape
quaint fern
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I haven't had a chance to do d4 yet

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I burnt my accumulated resin before heading out this morning

median glade
quaint fern
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Surely my cope gaming will work against tulpa

bright cape
#

d5 is pretty rough

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if they started us with burst, i could have definitely finished i think

hazy lotus
quaint fern
#

That would be korean

bright cape
#

i am starting to doubt if gilded dreams is even that good on alhaitham

quaint fern
bright cape
quaint fern
#

Oh ic

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Should I try nilou vs tulpa?

#

3d1h

bright cape
#

i don't think it will work

quaint fern
#

The cores probably don't do enough vs single target

bright cape
#

those small mini tulpas are causing me issue QiqiLurk

dusty cape
#

chalupa

bright cape
#

i am really handicapped this onslaught

#

neuvi not being viable in any one of the modes is pain

quaint fern
#

i just need to build iansan and Chevy I think

sage sail
#

how do i play stygian onslaught in co-op?

quaint fern
#

You just need to be in the same world for 4-5 I think

spark mantle
#

Why do people like kaeya over eula?

sage sail
#

ah i see

quaint fern
sage sail
spark mantle
#

I need a main dps for cryo

#

And my chances of getting skirk are basically 0

sage sail
quaint fern
#

I wouldn't really consider either a "cryo on fielders"

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Guys what if I did smth funky like ganyu hyperbloom vs tulpa

sage sail
#

nah just run vape

hazy lotus
#

Vape ganyu true

sage sail
#

mav can kill the lil guys and hit the big guy at the same time

quaint fern
sage sail
#

u don't have arle?

quaint fern
#

Nob

sage sail
#

rip

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and i assume no kinich

quaint fern
#

🎮

quaint fern
sage sail
#

yeah that's gonna be a pain

quaint fern
#

I'll figure smth out....

sage sail
#

u could run xl, benny for tulpa

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then iansan for the dragon

quaint fern
#

Time to level iansan

sage sail
#

which server are u on?

quaint fern
#

NA

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it's fine I'll figure smth out

sage sail
#

if we can cover each other's weaknesses we could carry each other or smth

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i need help with the last difficulty

quaint fern
#

I won't be free for a bit anyways

sage sail
#

i have mav and arle for the first 2 and i have iansan leveled somewhat

bright cape
#

only my mavuika team have worked

sage sail
#

and i can just run furina escoffier for the last one

bright cape
#

alhaitham n others fell off 😭

feral reef
#

whats a dire commendation

sage sail
quaint fern
#

d4 should be easy enough

#

I'll try d5 later

feral reef
#

wait for this thingo
do i just have to build ganyu or something to beat the cryo bot

sage sail
spark mantle
#

Basically if anything needs cryo im fucked

sage sail
#

but if u don't mind losing a few primos to save ur pulls then that's probably optimal

#

i don't think the cryo meta will last long at least until snez so i'd save my pulls

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just get escoffier on the rerun and play those 2 and 2 flex

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like rosaria and xingqiu

spark mantle
#

I didn't even get a 5* on the first run

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Id probably need to save for several months

#

To make that plan even workable

quaint fern
#

Layla is fine if you just need the aura

spark mantle
#

?

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She's c0 for me

quaint fern
#

Then use her + Rosa or smth

sage sail
#

diona is a great cryo battery with sac bow as well

spark mantle
#

My main team is mavuika/xilonen/furnia/raiden

#

My weapon selection us also... shit

quaint fern
#

Is your diona c6?

spark mantle
#

Most likely no

quaint fern
#

Well anyways doesn't matter, you want to use Mav earlier than on SSA

spark mantle
#

C0 or c1

sage sail
#

can't use furina for the first challenge bc of tulpa

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so keep her for the last

spark mantle
#

I already finished upto hard on the new event

sage sail
#

and mav doesn't need a shielder or even rlly a healer bc of i-frames and interruption resistance

spark mantle
sage sail
spark mantle
#

I just abuse damage over time

sage sail
#

can't get knocked out

sage sail
#

or do u mean off-field dps

spark mantle
#

I just know mavuika+furina+raiden is good for that

sage sail
#

u want to just focus on boosting mavuika's damage

spark mantle
#

And throw in xilonen for healing or nights blessing

sage sail
#

oh wait i just realised i can use overload for the first challenge im an idiot

spark mantle
#

Most of my chars don't use 5*weapons lol

#

I probably have 3 or 4 in total?

sage sail
#

you don't need any. just good team-building and the right characters

#

or get a whale to help

spark mantle
#

Even as a preregistration acc I still struggle lol

bright cape
sage sail
#

yeah not great bc u can't use quicken

bright cape
#

i think i can do it with c2 nahida.

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i take lot of time killing the minions

#

is there any way to make them spawn closer to main one?

sage sail
#

idk

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i just tried overload with mav but it takes like 5 hits to kill them

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and icd so no bueno

#

what were the devs thinking

#

this gamemode is so restrictive

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can't run overload first bc of the minions having bigger shields so u need hyperbloom or cryo but u can't even melt so what's the point

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without mav u need a shield but the only cryo shielder that can break the shields without it feeling clunky is citlali bc of catalyst

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not to mention peak patrol song doesn't work without def so u need a fully leveled triple def instructor set to make use of xilonen properly bc cinder city doesn't work

bright cape
#

i am gonna swap out my xilonen

#

she is not doing a lot anyway

#

i am loving kaeya so much this game mode

spark mantle
sage sail
#

bruh in a guide i saw there was a ss of a cn player barely clearing the gamemode with c6 iansan and citlali in the first chamber

spark mantle
#

diona is c6 lol

bright cape
sage sail
#

c0 citlali, c6 iansan, benny c6 and mav c0

#

maybe i can run overload without benny 2nd but i have no citlali

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so i need to replace iansan bc mav needs xilonen bc of nightsoul

feral reef
#

hey helpers what weapon for dahlia

sage sail
#

fav or sac

#

key can be good but he works best with skirk so the EM is wasted

#

@feral reef

fringe bear
#

the teams I used for lvl 5 (maybe gonna be helpful for someone) p.s. I hope they will tune difficulty down a bit, this is way harder than abyss 12, and I haven't even tried lvl 6 yet

quaint fern
#

why does my hyperbloom clear tulpa but my gaming not panic

jolly flax
quaint fern
#

PAUSE

#

PYRO AYAKA

fringe bear
quaint fern
#

I just finished 4, starting 5

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failed my first run, I tried swapping jean to kazuha for that run

#

I think the faster pyro app was acutally better with jean, so I just gave jean my kazuha artis to turn her into em jean with xiphos and i'm gonna give it another shot

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(keep in mind it's c4 ayaka)

fringe bear
quaint fern
#

also I should probably actually swap my ayaka build to a bossing build

bright cape
quaint fern
#

wait I mistyped

bright cape
#

5 is so rough. QiqiLurk

quaint fern
#

tbh I think I could use the same team, I just need to reoptimize my ayaka to no cryo build

bright cape
#

but u should be able to do it

fringe bear
jolly flax
#

Some one would help me with my clorinde team and her domain inside the game

fringe bear
bright cape
#

i am really confused

#

how does ayaka work there?

#

did u c6 bennett?

fringe bear
fringe bear
bright cape
#

i am only able to complete 2nd boss with mavuika

quaint fern
#

I dont really use her except for one skill at the beginning and when I down it

bright cape
#

oh ok

fringe bear
# bright cape

oh wow, do you have keya with cons? it's usually a rare thing

bright cape
#

i am pretty sure i can do 1 and 2

#

i will need to pull on some cryo supports in future

#

citlali and escoffier

quaint fern
fringe bear
fringe bear
fringe bear
# bright cape

hyperbloom for 1st boss can work pretty good if you are not using dendro for 2d

quaint fern
#

I COOKED

fringe bear
bright cape
#

both 1 and 2. i can reach 90% of boss hp

#

i can only clear 2

fringe bear
fringe bear
narrow folio
#

Like one, two at the very most LMAOO

viral mulch
quaint fern
#

i'll work on tulpa later 😔

bright cape
#

i got then with few seconds remaining

#

after so many tries cri

quaint fern
#

man esco would go so hard there

bright cape
#

i also got furina

quaint fern
#

you try furina diona yet?

#

sac diona can frontload a whole bunch of cryo?

bright cape
#

i will try that tomorrow.

quaint fern
#

i'm going to try dropping tighnari on my next run

#

I think fischl will just end up doing more dmg than him

#

but man I'm going to hate on fielding nahida for this

bright cape
#

i would take a cryo

#

they are very effective against minions

#

i built kayea just for that

quaint fern
#

yeah I was going to do cit/ganyu nahida kuki fischl

#

maybe I'll try wrio?

bright cape
#

u have lots of options

quaint fern
#

I just dont think I have enough sustain

bright cape
#

i feel they made this to counter neuvillette 😔

quaint fern
#

yeah idk why they made two pyro favored stages

#

that's just horrid

bright cape
#

i almost wanted to pull skirk for 3rd one 😭

#

even did a 10 pull

bright cape
#

if she can frontload diona and layla might be enough

quaint fern
#

well no bc I wanted to turn off my brain

bright cape
#

i have a spare xilonen lying around

quaint fern
#

god forbid I have an easy stage after malding in lava dragon

bright cape
#

who do you think are must pull cryo now?
i am going for citlali, then escoffier n skirk

quaint fern
#

I literally went to lava dragon, then into tulpa, got too frustrated and decided to take it out on SSA

quaint fern
#

there'll be other cryo on fielders and supports are just more flexible

bright cape
#

damn. should have pulled on escoffier QiqiLurk

quaint fern
#

SSA? just slap on escoffier and you can probably use a neuvi team

#

idk if she will be enough alone but you can always just run a suboptimal escoffier + rosaria team or smth

bright cape
#

i also found out SSA does weird stuff whenever u have nightsoul characters

#

ground hydro explosion

fringe bear
bright cape
#

like skirk furina layla and kaeya

#

but i don't have confidence they will be able to clear.

#

i will have to build skirk too

fringe bear
fringe bear
hazy lotus
#

is it like the friendship buff from that one event

fringe bear
fringe bear
hazy lotus
#

Oh it doesn't work in dire rip

fringe bear
forest venture
#

dire difficulty hard?
oh i have an idea for yall

bright cape
#

do i have a good cryo onfielder here?

lyric cargo
quaint fern
#

double should be fine right?

bright cape
#

also that boss does weird ground attacks when u add nightsould characters

bright cape
lyric cargo
#

I didn't try any team without Citlali, I thought that was normal

bright cape
#

why do you dash after 2-3 donuts?

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
bright cape
#

oh thanks.

lyric cargo
bright cape
#

i should have used that against tulpa

lyric cargo
# bright cape why do you dash after 2-3 donuts?

normally, in melt, you use C3 then let go for a final attack

this is to manage her pyro application so it doesn't take over

it also puts the melt on the final hit, which has more motion value (just slightly, I believe)

bright cape
#

i died multiple times to just making donuts

lyric cargo
#

nice thing about Mav is that dashing in burst state doesn't cost anything (no stamina / nightsoul cost)

#

so if an attack it telegraphed enough, you should be able to dodge it for free

#

huh, I couldn't sworn her burst overrides the multipliers from her skill while in burst state

but it looks like it adds to it. did I never read that talent myself? until now? panic

#

looks like I kinda griefed my donut damage

thorn bay
bright cape
#

dps chongus coming right away

lyric cargo
#

double cryo, that is

#

since it sounds like you already used Mavuika elsewhere and don't have a cryo dps

brisk mural
#

Any En players here that can help woth stage 4?
I have issues with the hydro guy snd the rock boss

lyric cargo
brisk mural
#

America my bad

quaint fern
#

What if I move escoffier to tulpa side

#

Or dominbox fopl

empty star
#

What’s the best onslaught teams cause I cannot beat fearless and I’ve played for five years

quaint fern
#

OH SHIT

#

escoffier on that team worked

bright cape
#

what is dps loss of skirk without escoffier?

quaint fern
#

let me see

#

I'm rerunning it rn

quaint fern
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

bright cape
#

arle, mavuika, skirk

quaint fern
cedar flint
bright cape
cedar flint
#

what diff

lyric cargo
bright cape
#

if not, i won't bother pulling skirk

quaint fern
bright cape
#

oh ok

bright cape
quaint fern
#

my 69 sec clear turned into 103 with furina skirk charlotte shenhe

#

I could probably get a better clear if I used mika or smth

#

but w/e a clear is a clear!!!

lyric cargo
quaint fern
#

ayaka would probably be fine

bright cape
quaint fern
#

it's just that escoffier raises the power level of freeze THAT much by herself

bright cape
#

anyone we can replace shenhe with?

lyric cargo
quaint fern
#

citlali, dahlia, mona, other cryo

#

shenhe honestly doesnt do too much, I would probably suggest the cryo one so you can frontload and get rid of the SSA's spinning phase

lyric cargo
quaint fern
#

yeah I feel like you're just missing escoffier

#

but feel free to try funky stuff

quaint fern
#

what are these teams OMEGALUL

bright cape
brisk mural
#

Fuck I almost beat the rock boss

quaint fern
#

yeah c2 rina helps

near prism
#

@viral mulch 🔥 what the fuck is a shilled on fielder

#

i have faster clears but i thought these were funnier

quaint fern
#

honestly I think this would have been so much easier if I had a decent dendro on fielder

near prism
quaint fern
near prism
#

like, much better

viral mulch
#

the based option

quaint fern
near prism
quaint fern
near prism
#

xiangling is 80/80 on 191 er
xilo is 80/80 with a t8 E
benny only had 250 ER

#

c0r1 navia and c0r0 xilo

viral mulch
#

i have like plans for solo all diff 5 and shit in mind

near prism
#

or hyper optimized gameplay with c0r1

viral mulch
near prism
#

for d6 yeah for sure

and that's good, i really like this mode

viral mulch
#

im also holding off just faster cleartimes for mavu as well
i did clear it but u know faster cooler

near prism
#

primos are easy to get
for people who are willing to optimize gameplay and have more investment, you get artifact rerolls

for dolphin+ you get temp skin

#

which is really cool imo

probably the coolest endgame mode

viral mulch
#

i do also like this mode but personally i think abyss is still better

#

this one does feel like it has points to improve on

strange scarab
#

Bruh im beat again

#

I need to cook up something for lds

near prism
strange scarab
#

what can i use with arle

near prism
#

i do think stygian onslaught is really cool

near prism
viral mulch
#

i would defo like it more if we started with full burst even if that means making their hp even fatter to balance things out

near prism
#

honestly you can probably go for burn, it breaks the shield super fast

viral mulch
#

also i am kinda concerned of how much of a fomomaxxing this mode can be but well see

near prism
viral mulch
#

its not rly like smth im unhappy about but just more of a concern

quaint fern
#

do you think I should try boxing FoPL? I think I'm 5-10 sec off with my current kuki build

near prism
strange scarab
feral reef
#

damn skrik is cool

strange scarab
#

Anyone that isnt already used for tulpa and ssaod

near prism
#

mechanically, ssao and lds are the biggest limiters

viral mulch
#

this one isnt too hard on that part altho overseer is a lil sus

strange scarab
#

I want to come up with something faster

#

Nahida is kinda hard for me to use, i need to refresh dendro aura every 4s or so

near prism
quaint fern
#

idt anything will tick faster than burn

near prism
strange scarab
#

What dendro units can i use tho

quaint fern
#

unless you're stupid like me and do XL + sunfire

strange scarab
#

Also my fischl seems to be having an issue with ER somehow due to starting with 0 energy

near prism
#

imo dust of enlightenment isnt that fomo inducing but i get where you're coming from

#

esp since you can get 2 per patch without ever touching diff 5

#

and without bp

viral mulch
#

speaking of which i rerolled the same circlet 3 times this patch and none of em rolled that well

#

im fr gonna reroll this specific piece until it rolls good

near prism
#

like i really dig how they implemented the reroller

#

in the long run its insane value, 4 roll guarantee at max is nutty

#

@viral mulch and without BP it takes 6 patches to max out the reroller

viral mulch
near prism
#

massive 0.8cv gain

viral mulch
near prism
viral mulch
#

i can honestly leave skirk domain cus both my sands and circlet are 4 liners so technically someday those 2 will get rerolled enough to be finished

#

so i went back to codex lol

near prism
viral mulch
#

dont think so

near prism
#

it was a 4 sub but also i just cba

#

i didnt have any good eosf atk sands

viral mulch
#

oh wait u rerolled 3 liner

strange scarab
#

would kuki or yae be better instead of fischl since they dont rely on burst to refresh their app?

viral mulch
#

but either way me next fr trust

#

that circlet next patch will reroll 14 cr and 15 atk trust

near prism
viral mulch
#

wtf are those cr subs

quaint fern
#

i'm like this far off with citlali, I think going for FoPL will let me clear EulaThink_Eri

near prism
viral mulch
#

emblem standards in 2025 be like

near prism
viral mulch
viral mulch
near prism
viral mulch
#

+its overload lb so irrelevant anyway

near prism
#

tragic

viral mulch
#

left looks so ugly i just cant use it lmao

near prism
#

first build is much better but yeah it is uglier

#

well ''much''

#

its better

viral mulch
#

also that gob is crafted this patch
pretty happy with it

near prism
#

baller gob

near prism
viral mulch
#

sands crafter crafts goblet for the first time clickbait

viral mulch
viral mulch
#

lmao

#

i was also shocked at some point to find out noelle has a lb but none of it has furina

#

so i just have a 4mh noelle sitting at like top 20%

near prism
quaint fern
#

I cleared d5 by swapping citlali to esco

viral mulch
near prism
#

reaches like 50k flower ticks on crits with gorou and zl

viral mulch
#

then the boss breathes on it and it disappears

near prism
#

which is like, not that impressive considering my chiori but its a solid amount of damage

near prism
viral mulch
#

lmao imagine they hotfixed constructs

#

cus last time tulpa was in abyss i tried for fun and even the small tulpa broke it

near prism
#

albedo finally usable...

viral mulch
#

constructs in 2025 no one even remembers them rip

near prism
#

wrong
kachina is a great chiori pair

viral mulch
#

see i didnt even remember kachina

near prism
viral mulch
#

om truly vanishing from ppls brains

near prism
#

net i need your opinion on something

viral mulch
#

sup

feral reef
#

wat does skirk want
atk cryo crit? for mains

near prism
#

would you reroll this feather for a higher cv distribution?

feral reef
near prism
near prism
viral mulch
near prism
#

(realistically c2 cuz, lmao, c1)

feral reef
#

also do yall have a weap ranking for her or is the tinyurl up

near prism
viral mulch
#

im not too sure how much itll impact cus well my navias also c0 so idk but 0 energy start is a little too big of a gap i feel like

#

or in worst case scenario u could prob get the cons first then think about it

feral reef
#

damn me and my niche 5 star swords 😢

#

time to enshu

viral mulch
near prism
#

good riddance yeah

viral mulch
#

so like one of those on the potential list but low priority ones

near prism
#

its just that

holy shit, i never knew 86 cr could feel so bad

#

i missed 5 fucking crits in a row

viral mulch
#

gotta say

#

theres a reason why im obsessed with 100 cr

near prism
#

entirely fair

#

but also, i dont wanna commit to c2 navia cuz id have to rebuild her

#

and i cant go from cr circlet to cd circlet cuz im already using a cd circlet

#

fucking scam 😭

lyric cargo
# feral reef atk goblet far behind cryo?

one thing in favour of cryo goblet:

if you're able to use it as an off-piece
you might have a 4-liner with cr, cd, atk%

in that case you can re-roll it to only roll those stats

viral mulch
#

i fr dont understand ppl who like run 40cr on mh/codex user and say its fine cus that on my standard feels hella annoying

#

nearly unplayable annoying

near prism
#

actually the most annoying thing ever

viral mulch
feral reef
#

is ts navia alright

lyric cargo
# feral reef atk goblet far behind cryo?

an atk% goblet can only have 2 useful substats, so the prospects of re-rolling it are much worse
3 useful subs: ~23% chance to avoid rolling the final stat
2 useful subs: 1/32 chance to avoid the final two stats

near prism
feral reef
viral mulch
strange scarab
#

Dang i think this is it for me i think im gonna c6 my bennett

viral mulch
#

especially when the pieces in question are sands and circlet xdd

strange scarab
#

Man

near prism
lyric cargo
near prism
#

c6 benny is so good

strange scarab
near prism
#

and i say this as a c6 chiori owner, that shit griefs me more than anyone else 😭