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i wanted to lvl 20 an artifact.
it was at 16. ultimately ended up feeding 5 star artifacts 
i am confused if it's worth strongboxing 
yeah, daily
99 spots + one final location
and a bunch of additional spots
after you pick up the 100th, no more spots will load in
but the region you were in when doing the 100th will still have its spots loaded
my guide video did exactly this
Boxing is just worth it there's nothing else to do with the fodder 5*s
Eventually you will have enough artifact xp as the average artifact quality on your account raises
hats off to the trial players who identified every investigation spot if it's artifact/mora/weapon
i see. hope i can reach that someday
rn i am levelling as much as possible so i don't have to move around artifacts too much
you can start by learning one route
gives you around 80k artifact exp and 20k mora a day, if all the spots are with mora
downside to a single route if you want to do it daily is that they take 24h to reappear
so the next day, the time you can do it will be later than the day before
it's fine. i have found couple of spots.
i will only do it when i am in a pinch
I'd recommend this channel, for artifact routes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMIuZsTRUsE&pp=0gcJCbAJAYcqIYzv
The first Morax Route, an artifact route where the first 99 artifact spots all have Mora!
Artifact Route Planner by me:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11d9XyWgE3ec7Fad_zoGsb5KIGw7uczH71hbhAH7SReY/edit?usp=sharing
0:00 Intro
1:54 Route Prep
2:39 Natlan + Asipa
4:29 Fontaine
9:02 Liyue
11:46 Sumeru
15:48 Khemenu Temple Extension
18:36 Ex...
these are my personal routes, I also included some Weasel Thief locations..
https://qiqis-notebook.com/route/6825c6908458e1ae402774d6
https://qiqis-notebook.com/route/6825e2c58458e1ae402777dc
(work in progress)
thanks 
for comparison, a 4-world co-op elite route (400 elites) will give you around 140k mora + 60k artifact exp and take 2-3 hours
so much more mora focused, and more time intensive
the guy moves so fast with scara n chasca.
it might take me 1 hour to just follow along his video 
i will save it for my next run
yeah, learning is always slow
I'd mark the locations on your map so you can easily follow them from memory next time
I think they might be speedrunning to demonstrate how fast the route can be
yah.
is it worth crafting chainbreaker for ororon?
i am using fav rn
he is kinda unbuilt
Not really
Chain breaker overperformed for a while in calcs because it didn't work the way it was worded
i am surprised how he alone can fill mavuika's burst meter
one thing I'd take from this would be the Natlan sigil spots
with Citlali or Ororon, they seem fast and give like 2 artifacts each
thanks
Mavuika gives herself 80/100
Yeah
i dunno how she fills her bar
any nightsoul points her team uses refill it
so Xilonen gives her a lot, for example
i was surprised how my overloaded mavuika was hitting more than my furina vape one
overloaded did have c6 cheveruse
it works very well on 2nd side this abyss
polite car
Give me 6 hours
you have 6 hours
What should I spend the first 4 hours doing
Any suggestions?
I hate doechii.
Never heard it 👍
looks fine to me
new IT drpped
He fill the bar the least
really?
Ye
my mavuika was getting burst very regularly
i didn't know trav filled it quickly too
i know xilo was fast
anyways. mavuika, ororon, bennett, chev c6 is banger team
I wish I had Bennett
today is the last day to get him from paimon bargains
it's worth it
I don’t have star glitter
I bought xingqui
And gave all I had for Layla on the last minute of the banner
it's fine
got 3 double crit artifacts today and none of them cracked 25cv at +16
Good for me. Hope you like Ayaya. 
No
besides atk speed buffers don’t really buff charge attack speed
Whats dat
Beats me
Haiii guoballs sama >~<
A bit too much cleavage in the pfp.
better than no nuts in sight despite the name
Why no nuts
You tell me
You first
Nu u
cringe
Thornalt soon
soon to be less cringe fingers crossed
lamo
I was about to say hullo
@neon harness
Hullo to yuo
gallo
red chat
now it's blue
HIS or team?
no theres better thing
e, Q, e (can do some NA before, but use E once off cd), spam NA and use E whenever u have passive
what
i am doing theatre
i just got 2 more double crit artifacts from back to back boss runs bringing my total for today to 5
let's see if they're any better
they're both useful too
hp WT goblet and atk glad goblet
2 low rolls on the hp WT so it's out
aaaaand the atk goblet failed on the last roll
and since it's 3 subs it's a dud
it's even written
i am using 3 cryo.
i have made him stop the spinning.
but damage is not enough
build issue then? 
also no dendro? to maximize IT buffs
or do you not take the upgrades
i usually don't take upgrades
.
the element upgrades are probably the only thing that help barely invested chars to clear
i maxed out electro+cryo. but it's not doing much 😭
also wrio is of someone from here 
u just upgrade each of them to level 3 first
so your brilliance blessing will be maxed
oh ok. next time
so how do we play wrio?
do we have to use his e?
i am doing two normals and one charged
yes
just n5c
what does his e do?
enhance his basics
nope
oh may be that's also why i am losing dps
just think of his E like Yoimiya / Wanderer / Childe in a way
should i q start or end of rotation?
lemme try adding xiangling
ideally nearing at the end of his E cooldown
like around 2s-ish cooldown remaining on E
oh ok
what does this mean?
i thought maxing out one was enough
thanks. as soon as i removed two cryo, it was piece of cake.
also thanks for wrio. @quaint fern
level 3 of each buff enhances ur brilliance blessing
literally had to re-do my IT to SS this
thanks. but that looks close enough to mine

it's more than 10%+ increase and you get to abuse all 3 element combination at once
I just spam upgrades because half of my IT characters don't actually have artifacts equipped
and u can still clear just because of buffs?
Yeah I've never missed a star
half of upgrades either lower resist (for overgeared chars it's good)
or just add aoe flat dmg which is good for godawful chars
i didn't know that. i usually select characters
All my lvl 70s are 70/70 TL 1/1/1 no artifacts lvl 1 weapon
you usually just need enough chars to run a stage
thanks. didn't know that
You want to have 2 strong characters per 2 stages prolly
even 1 is enough
Else clearing might be an issue
the last 3 are usually fillers to activate the blessings for me
But I never commit to playing 3 or more good characters at once
Unless I just have to because I have no fodder
Yeah I do 4x starters back to back in first two chambers
then I prioritize using chars that have 2 usages left
regardless of difficulty usually
rn these happen to be my only 2 usages chars 
we say good bye to ASIMON
maxed blessings with ample of chars to use on last stage
nice
i usually end up like this too
i tryhard a lot on early stages
with unbuilt bad characters
only day i didn't reach platinum 
dw everyone hates that Kinich stage
Wow r u f2p? I can only do gold in everything
Is the sanctifying elixir in imaginarium theater just added now? I dont think i got one before there
yes
yah. but i have been playing for 2 years
i wont lie mavuika sucks real bad on her own stage
it makes mavuika look very balanced
when will they stop making cursed buffs that require changing your builds to fully utilize 
(why no 60 cd instead of 10 cr and 40 cd)
Could someone help me build a team for 12 - 3 of the abyss, thats the only floor i cant clear rn
i forgot i could use neuvillette on 1st half.
after i changed him, plat was ez
main question for me will be which side gets Xilonen
I could probably do Mavuika carry both sides, one with vape and one with melt
is the problem time, or dying to the blast when you can't break the shield in time?
(I'm assuming it's second half)
after failing to break the shield and losing a char a couple times, in the end I just went to the edge of the arena and waited out the shield rather restarting and changing team
it gains very high res, but time was not the issue for me
to break the shield, you want fast elemental hits. preferably from Natlan chars
most of the time its me dying but not for the blast
if it's not for the blast, i would recommend playing slow and safe
he gives good amount of time before recharging his shields again
i was playing too agro and died a lot too 
you're breaking the shield in time but then die to the verious things it transforms into?
yeah
oh, I see now. Only one side gets Bennett, and Iansan isn't allowed on either side
you kinda don't have 8 units if you try to build two Mavuika carry teams
theres a rule in which order the papilla transforms into which may or may not help you if you know
the end of me stage @rugged sparrow
where my cons at

the other one guy u talk with in sea server got 51k he got real close
wew

kinda cursed, using Bennett second side when first side's buff says "use 2 pyro"
my first attempt clears are just: own the char? plat. Else: gold
but she has c2
yea hence close
i wonder how much u have got with c6 
weird not seeing u with one
definitely higher than rn
i also got to use citlali with her today
even with trial, the difference is very much noticeable
hope she reruns soon
citlalis too broken
@rugged sparrow i just tried a little more
i swapped to the wrong char twice but u know what ill take it
five hundred cigarettes
today
i have to redo this shit
the clorinde stage is a little bit too hard
can't get more than 5200 first half despite c2 Nahida and a well-built Fischl and Iansan 
trial Clor 

which one is that?
use neuvillette whereever possible
only kinich one was a bit rough
5200 first half, so the Neuv team got 15920 - 5200 = 10720
instead of c2 Nahida? D:
hmmge
Yaoyao is advised cuz her dendro app is locked behind E ig, DMC might struggle on first rot
well, can't hurt to try
worst that'll happen is losing few mins of your time
nah Kirara is dead w/o c4
when you pull a c2 dendro support and have to use the f2p char instead 
I need multiple rotations for one wave, the trial Clorinde is bad enough for that 😄
if you meant that by no dendro aura, then that's not a concern
do you have alhaitham?
nah
oh how was it?
i'm about to start rn
easy. i saved wrio for the last boss
took some time to learn him
yeah pretty much, I was only able to clear hyperbloom and cryo one on plat 
I mean, I have a well-built c0 Raiden (which I tried)
the only purple clears I've seen with Raiden were c3
it's just.. either use the sad trial Clorinde or play a 3 char team 
i would go nahida, raiden and fischl.
tbf the trial clorinde does fuck all dmg
surely raiden agg will beat trial clorinde
raiden on-field and only use clorinde to clear mobs left with lower hp
I think that's what I tried
so like it's not terrible there
true...
well they only allow 2/3 elements needed for agg
i ran this.
maybe they thought clorinde is a spread dps
alhaitham took around 80% hp down. clorinde cleared the rest
wait this isn't terrible
x5
I tried Tighnari Nahida Fischl, btw
no luck ^^
don't think so
if you remember which enemies you cleared, you could probably calculate it
this prolly would clear but idk
thats just what ororon always is
I should really build my orororon one of these days
i just tried that stage. i think i only scored 5200 first half
it was all 2nd half carrying
leveled his talents to 1 8 8 just in case it makes a difference 
Neuv and Furina cons?
Neuv sig?
yes
I have c0 no sig, and c1 on Furina
i also recently buffed my neuvi pretty well
oh yah. then that can make difference
one thing that makes this event a bit tougher is how characters start with zero energy 
yeah, I just lvl90'd my fav lance for Iansan
she was always on the event weapon, but for the 0 energy event I felt fav lance was better
i remember now. how i was missing a bit points.
my fav was lvl80 since all the chars using it were supports with minimal damage contribution
this stage is designed terribly

my Neuv team clears until the 6 Metachurl wave and, no further
heckin' love trial chars
instead of promoting chars with decent equip to raise interest in pulling
they butcher chars so hard that it drives ppl off
and being forced to use them 
this is some blatant "you have to own every character" stuff
if using Clor was optional, you could play a 4 char team with Tighnari / Raiden / etc
i think the kinich stage may have done irreparable damage to kinich's marketing
if anything it makes ppl not want to pull even more
"why cant I platinum on this character's shilled stage"
i went from having to play ass teams and barely 16king first two stages to doing 19k in the top stage alone when it came to a caharacter I actually owned myself
on the 3rd day
thanks for these trials uncle hoyo
dont look at Kinich's stage score
we got same points on kinich 

i used neuvillette for 1st half. it made it a bit bearable
and the trial citlali worked great for 2nd
guys pls help me
what claymore is suitable for mavuika? wolf's gravestone or fang of the mountain king(kinich's weapon)???
fang
wgs is better
eh its close enough but i think its wrong
but id have to see the sheet
i wonder what the stack assumption is and WGS uptime assumption
id assume WGS is 30% but
WGS passive is weird
it is
death



u still get like 20-30% burst dmg ig
idk how many E hits Mavuika gets
before she roadrage her enemies with her 500 tonnes bike
comparatively WGS has no passive cuz enemies just die on initial Q cast 
/hj
gcsim - a team dps simulator for Genshin Impact
no she has 0 stacks of kinichs weapon during her entire uptime
huh
i mean she never does skill damage during burst so
that is why i should get c6 frfr fr fr rf
and you get that buffed
nah
you press E, you get 1 stack, buff 3 E offhit stacks with it, but the weapon doesnt stack offfield
you lose th buff during setup and you never regain it
until next rotation
god they should rerun mavu sooner im sick of playing her in my current state
oh it doesn't stack off-field? ok cringe
guys should I pull kinich after I got his weapon? or invest for mavuika's weapon in her next rerun
if u like Kinich go ahead
she gets it here, gets 3 skill damage instances with 10% damage buff in
and then it just expires

one advantage of kinich weapon is u can drop-in replace with her signature without changing crit ratio
Is this good guys
good enough. u one cycled her
Would she do better w c6 fischl, chevreuse and sara?
wait is this a new boss variant of the vishap boss that they put into theatre?
i dont recall seeing one with an attack pattern like this
yep first time seeing. it was easy to kill so not memorable
try it. it can be better in terms of energy
its local legend thats in like the weird ancient fontaine sea new map thing
coordinated attacks i think
Mauvika with her sig, is em sand better than atk%
for melt n vape, em better
atk for others
Ic
+2s on oz duration and also your normal attack triggers oz attacks as well
How does that help with damage
What much atk should I have tho at least
idk have u considered that u know more oz hits = more damage
Im talking about the main dps
get as much as u can
i reach 2.2k on em
1800 pre buff enough?
Yeah, I do
its more team dmg what else do u want
i use wgs
your electro dps doing 2 million dmg then thats not happening cus should have not been an electro 
That give crazy atk right
yep
??
And how much em is too much
I don't have xilonen so I can't use instructor on citlali
I use kazuha instead of her
there is no too much
Oh I see
u asked how c6 fischl helps with dmg and i told u how it helps with dmg
:D
She makes her own damage, why not use a support instead that could increase the main dps damage?
teamdps is the only practical metric that matters
It doesnt matter who does damage, only the total damage of the team matters
because she does good damage to the point a lot of teams do more dmg by doing less buffed main dps + fischl than doing more buffed main dps + no subdps
Bosses dont die faster because your carry is doing a higher percentage share of your teams damage
they dont actually care
Hmm
lol imagine they make a boss where it gains res just for off field characters hits
or even worse vice versa
For theatre, I got 6 stars on ACT 8, if I redo in act 6 and got the stars I'm missing,will it show 8 stars?
Like the abyss
afaik u have to do in one run
Damn
use friend's cracked character
Cyno is so terrible, literally unplayable
pardon?
Maybe I'm trash but I can't just get pass that electro energy drainage mini boss
wayob?
In abyss, you can redo it without losing stars u gained
yeah idt you can here
but i did spam blessings
where is this in hoyolab anyways?
in battle chronicles just like abyss no
ngl for this theater immediately spamming cryo dendro buff is prob the best idea
no? if you 35 star and then you go back after finishing to 3 star the chamber you missed, it counts as 36
I think th eyre misunderstanding
How much primos did i miss on 
oh I see
I took cryo/electro to lvl 4, maybe that's why
you still need to clear every chamber in time
you still need to be able to 36 it
you cant just do the s ame thing and stack stars
^
funny enough, I always find the first few stages of IT to be the hardest
but that's bc I'm trying to find the cheapest way to clear while saving the better characters
think if you just spawn and only buy blessings the trial characters are just op
i always play 4x trial back to back first two stages
Trail characters they give are just eh
you're aware that you dont need to get the stella to get these rewards right?
i mostly just dont read and ooga booga click
whale behavior
average genshin player
r*ading
Wym im completely lost
you dont need to clear all the goals to get those rewards, just clear the chamber
Abyss or theater
theatre
this is theatre
okay so abyss works like this:
lets say you get 2 stars on chamber 12-1 and then 3 stars on chambers 12-2 and 12-3. That's 35 stars
too many numbers he cant understand
you can go back in after finishing that run and then 3 star 12-1, this will make your total 36 star
and you can claim the full rewards for 36 star
Ohh in like the theater theres 2 things ur supposed to reach
In specific time
Hold on
I only need to finish the first one to get the primogems?
yes
stellas used to not matter until this reset
Why
now there are additional stella rewards but I wouldn't worry about it too much
thanks for the ganyu, goonsicles 👍
np pookie
whoa
sorry I should have specified pookie (platonic)
ah
Can you use foods in the event? The one with platinum medals?
this event specifically no
Thankss, no idea how i could get platinum medals then haha
elixir is pretty big, tbh
only if you can get it, though. the difference between 0 and 8 stats isn't that big
so only worry about it if it's close?
Yeah but if they're on 8 chambers only then not a huge deal
should i go anemo dps or reaction dps for ifa if paired with ororon??
it depends on your investment level and the enemies you're facing, I think
you got c6 Faruzan? crowned normal attack talent with Ifa constellations?
anemo dps gets slightly better in single target, swirl in AoE
i have c6 faru but no ifa cons
I don't get the Varesa stage tbh
it's like it's trying to tell you "use both her premium teams"
Xy Furina first half, OL second
but only one has Iansan, so instead it's telling you to run Neuv first half
all else being equal, anemo dps means you don't have to level his skill talent as much
overload without iansan is fine
Bennett
Sidenote, you own Xianyun but don't own any plunge DPS 
they should make some good ones 😛
(not pulling Xiao in 2025)
im not rlly sure about what team. im thinking ifa, ororon, faru, yelan/fischl?
Varesa
Says she's not good, I dare you
she doesnt play xianyun
she's like
current stage power creep
No but she's still a plunge dps
her numbers match the current dps level, but I don't think she has the QoL to make her good long-term?
I only really go for the on-fielders that add a lot of value to an account
This isn't HSR, she'll survive more than two patches 
She's definitely one of the stronger characters, I doubt she'll just become obsolete just like that
Also, what do you consider an onfielder that adds a lot of value? Nevuilette, Mavuika, okay. What are the other options? 
I think more in terms of regions / major game versions
Arlecchino for example came out and was top meta in Fontaine
lasted less than one region
(it's not exactly a "we're about to get the archon" situation with Varesa, though)
Arlecchino isn't just dead in the water though, she's still strong
yet shes still really good and clears all content easily
just outclassed
By one character, cool
why pull anyone, theyll just get beaten eventually 
question is how long you'll get good value out of the char imo
I consider Chasca to be more worth, since what she does is more unique
I'm not following this logic, who's to say Chasca doesn't get outclassed in like two patches? Why is it an issue for Arle
Or Varesa
outclassed in her own role? you expect they'll make another multi element char soon?
Bruh what is this imagining theater i cannot star the first stage nothings doing any damage bruh
3 restarts already and its just ahh
Doesn't matter, that's not the point. The point is why are we suddenly talking about uniqueness rather than strength when that's what we were started on
Like how they gonna give me a cyno with 2 crit damage broo
i mean unless your chasca is like whale tier you prob wont ever use chasca without amplifying reaction in team
so the multi element part kinda fades
You got Esco?
look at this whale
but yea either way i dont rly think chascas super valuable as a pull cus in the end lack of dmg kinda restrictive enough for team versatility to fade more
I think what hidden is trying to express is rather than a character being the best at what they do its more important to them that they pull characters that they would continue playing in the future even if they pulled another character in the same nieche, as in its unlikely they would play melt arle if they had arle because they pulled mavuika
so in a sense arle loses all "value" on their account
despite being a good character
tbh i dont think it matters in this state of the game that much and will only be more of a bigger thing to consider when powercreep kicks in even more
what I'm saying is, a char being powerful isn't enough. power will get outpaced in one region.
the kit needs to do something unique
so there's a reason to use the char even after the next powercreep
Neuv? really good AoE, even if they make a stronger hydro dps
Chasca? multi element
at least currently newer supports can still wheelchair older dps and also fontaine~early natlan dps are more than fine state
Makes sense
its not a wrong way to think though
I personally feel like if I had that mindset I would almost never pull for any character I like
its just a personal preference kind of thing how you view the game
Cuz they'd be seen as "replaceable" in due time
hiddens just that metaslave fr
if youre not really invested in characters as "characters" apart from gameplay elements then you may not care much to play a character that isnt optimal for your account in that scenario
Like I wouldn't have pulled for Clorinde, Raiden, etc
Ellen
I would've pulled for Ellen if she healed the enemy
i dont rly disagree with hiddens thought but i do think its a little too cautious
so u didnt pull for the one who solves quite a lot
No I did
wilted rose emoji
the other part is that I'm kinda low on pulls right now
I did pullon Varesa's banner, just decided to stop and save when I didn't get her early
the banner was pretty good, so I would've been okay with getting an early Varesa
fair enough
varesa especially on her banner with that 4* was a super valuable pull imo cus she gets a full team with just that which is both lowcost and doesnt share any other support with other top teams like neuv or mavu rn
I'm very much hoping they'll rerun Iansan on a banner where I can justify going for the 5-star soon
(she's c1 right now)
if I'm not optimizing, I'm not having fun
wingdings
Didn’t you pull things like xianyun c1 
iansan will be on chascas rerun as da weis gift to me
yeah 
I got trapped by her great looking synergy with Furina
C1 is just exploration tho, basically no scenario where that’s optimal
yeah, I do pull for exploration when I can argue myself into it 😅
Also pull for fun characters then 😌
c1 was exploration + "stepping stone into c2"
I pulled c1 Mavuika partly for exploration as well
Language.
the Varesa stage is just out of reach as well
maybe if I get used to hoding Chev's skill, I can do it 
I'm way too used to switch → press skill from other supports
now 15840
have u tried neuvillette 1st half?
for me this setup was just enough
lol. i was using trial chev
just realized 😛
I'm doing that, but Iansan instead of Ororon
and c6 Chev instead of trial ^^
maybe Ororon is reasonable there, not sure
he gives off-field electro to Mav, and the stage effect makes that grouping as well
how to play chev
swap
oh oops i pressed e
oh well
I'm doing a dual dps thing, the mobs where I need grouping I do with Varesa. The rest, I use Mav
i just tried. just use mavuika as dps
and swap to vaersa when u have to clear some small enemies
it worked for me
also i think going atk sands can help for overloated mav
overloated
Heya, so im just getting back into this game and got lucky and pulled Raiden, problem is, is im ar 55 and Ive been trying to grind her materials but while doing so my world leveled up and I cant kill the boss on my own without it being a struggle, I was wondering if I could get some help (I had already reverted from 7 to 6 or something like that already)
what’s ur region and uid i can log on real quick if ur na but for future reference ur a lot more likely to get a quick response in the help co op channel in the main official genshin discord than this one
ah, mb
its fine if ur busy I can go on the offical if you think it'll be easier o7 @hazy lotus
all g just letting u know so ur not waiting to get a response from here when there’s a good chance u won’t. shouldn’t take long for someone to get to u in the other server
Use your characters instead of trial characters
tbh i'm surprised that this felt okay to play vs the vishap
oh yeah, for sure. I swapped to atk sands for it
looks very cursed 
did you weave in normal attacks on Tighnari, for Beidou?
I just used him as quickswap and then filled the rest of the duration with keqing on fielding/burst
I think I initially tried it with nahida + fischl but that cleared a bit to quickly
oh?
my chamber 9 ended up being hydro elementals so good thing I saved nahida for that
OT: using math engines to calculate 5.7 release time 
I have to use Mauv so, I guess Mualani/muav first half? What team works in the 2nd half? Arle melt can’t cause Mauvuika is there.
UID: 686189049
World Level: 6
Help With: Blazing Ruins
Number of Runs: 15
we can't eat food for this event, right?
if we can, I've been making it unneccessarily difficult 
it was indeed much better with Ororon
ignoring Varesa and using Mav Oro Chev
Oro means no Iansan buff, but there's full uptime on the grouping buff (and also Chevreuse's)
Use a better search engine
Chat gpt 
there's no 5.7 page as of yet, so I added 42 days to the release of the last version
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Version/5.7
normally I check the fandom's version page for the release date
Psss
idk why I'd use a next word prediction engine to do math
it's correct here of couse, but haven't these text generation engines been known to do calculations wrong sometimes?
or I could use a math engine 
Sure 
I need help for this, or should I just rewind?
I'm waiting for the guide video telling me which enemies to select for each stage
nvm I got it
malding
finally got the 6640 first half, with Iansan + ttds Nahida buffing Fischl
now I gotta reset because Neuv is on the wrong weapon
can't clear 2nd half to the point I did yesterday, even though it would now be enough
got there
now it's just the Kinich stage
first half is kinda cursed because neither trial char is on deepwood
gotta run a deepwood pyro unit if the dendro dmg is supposed to be good
second half with Neuv is kinda cursed because the Wayob Manifestation has 50% hydro res and there's no VV / Xilo
also, Neuv doesn't benefit from the skill / burst dmg buff the stage gives
so I guess it's gotta be 2nd half Mav or Kinich carry
oh, and this is ttds + burst Nahida not using her skill, since Bennett is needed first half 
because too much dendro app would prevent vape
but that makes it a healerles Furina team
you are not required to include all recommended elements
I know, it's lack of characters?
who would you use if not Nahida there?
you can use other hydro there. xingqiu, yelan, kokomi
heck, even use neuvillette
make it neuvi main team instead
I tried that, but like I said
Wayob Manifestation has 50% hydro res and the stage buff doesn't benefit Neuv
maybe it's still the best option. I don't think I'm getting plat then
I'm trying Mav + Furi + ttds Barbara right now
meh, you're right. I guess Neuv is still better than Barb there
even just to fill fanfare
and the enemies before the Wayob don't have that hydro res
best I can do with that
if I kill the wayob and do well first side, I think 15200 is the limit
still nowhere close
Should i crown iansan burst?
do you crown your Bennett's burst
yes, for max atk bonus, but if you have resources for it ofc
For lam yan, skyward atlas or sac frag r2?
Ttds
😐
who is she buffing?
if it's an atk scaler, then ttds is likely best
Shield bot most likely
defensive utility is usually not enough
Lan Yan offers VV + ttds in additon to her shield
since most of the content we get in genshin now is "beat the timer"
Ok,how much er does she need
always depends on the team. there are sometimes more or less accurate approximate answers
yeah, the shield comes from her skill and I guess you burst whenever you burst?
burst is grouping, right? so assume you're in an AoE chamber you want to burst every rotation if possible..?
idk how good it is
its pretty mediocre grouping
if you do want to burst every rotation then yeah, consult the ERC in pins
only consider burst every rot with c4 + the team benefits from the EM
what black magic is this? 
every other plat clear with trial kinich I've seen used some big whale constellations
this is cheated probably
hmm
would they believe if i record first half?
they can feel free to post a video of both sides i dont see why they would record first half only
they said they'll record and post one, so stay tuned 🙂
tun
I did it @opal surge ...
is this kinich one?
what team did u use?
I mean the person on top got it
yah. if he posts a video, may be i can follow it
I can try XL ig but Klee helped me get Bennett burst when I needed it
it's mostly just critfishing with trial Kinich
that CD circlet with 0 useful substats 😆
I dont have enough sanity for this
I guess it's completely randomly rolled artifacts?
or a very low substat goal
I was mostly curious
I barely have enough dmg for 2nd half to kill Wayob
after good amount of critfishing 
Oh yeah I finally got around to finishing sacred mountain yesterday
I may or may not have set off a nuke...
sir
I was curious if the game would stop you or not XD
it'd be hella hilarious if the game just resets you to 0 if you actually nuked Teyvat
no refunds 
easy lawsuit
i recently went out and did rest of sumeru statue and that was the worst mistake of my life
this region shall burn
Sumeru is bearable after map update
you should've been exploring the desert pre-update

u know
i know i hate myself like i literally play wanderer and shit
but even then there are boundaries that i will not cross
where are Yoi and Gaming in all these
kinda became maldy on reaction rng now that he has to use reactions
true, Citlali is a thing
do u just double cryo it
Bennett Lyney Cit + 1
c6 Diona 
cit esco engine trust
i just called some randos kinich build bad and hes now full time mad at me
how bad
took the opportunity and ragebaited a little more
Earth Shaker is free and this guy chose Blackcliff like he's playing Xiao in 2021 without sig
he was like calling out someone else whos an actual new player i think so i called him out and now hes full time mad
like he ditched his previous job if he had any now his career is a full time hater

I think I set it off 5 times before realising it was a ||groundhog day situation|| and I can't get through the quest by spamming F 
HELP I DID A SPONTANEOUS 10 PULL I say spontaneous but I have been thinking about it for a whole week bc I wanted to fish for 1 more Sara con AND GOT AYATO IN LIKE 6 PITY SO NOW I HAVE A FATE POINT BUT I ALREADY HAVE C1 CHIORI. WHAT DO I DO. DO I COMMIT FOR C2???
ALSO I got my last Sara con in that same 10 pull so I don’t even need Sara cons anymore!!
ALSO ALSO Chiori is still running a… 3* weapon
Pull
I think I will pull but not before I spend at least another week debating whether or not to pull. Can you tell I’m indecisive? 
You have a 100k primos vro, just pull
But what if Fontaine CW comes next patch?!?!
Thank you for the motivational words 

If you want you can wait until the end of patch when we hear what’s coming next patch
Too late I pulled
Result: C2 Chiori in 80 pulls, no more Sara cons, and I’m broke down to 92k primos
Indeed. Looks like I’ll have to skip pulling next patch

Sooo is Ayato worth building?
Is Blackcliff really bad or has it just been powercrept
It's pretty ass
Unless you're a certain green lamenter with no other good and currently obtainable 4* options 
Being powercrept means it was good at some point. it was never good to begin with
Who's coming
If you’re coming let me see it
Freaky ass.
fellas
am i eligible to be a Kaz main with this build?
and ideas of improvement?
No, 4pc vv is mandatory and he needs all EM mainstats. Also a good sword like favonius or xiphos. There’s also a build guide in the pins
but i wanna dps with him
os taht sI
siT
only way to find out is tomorrow's dev discussion ig
dev post is out
they seemingly added an actual preset but we'll see if its real preset fr
got Nilou and Xiphos? 
can someone dumb down the bond of life how do i clear it cus my characters cant heal
😼

it looks like you can have multiple "fast-equip" plans (the ones we already have, so like "set: vv; sands main stat: atk%; substat prioity: ..", etc?
so it's still not letting you choose the exact artifact, it seems?
wether or not it's useful depends on wether it auto-picks the right pieces for your char. it works pretty well for builds like hyperbloom (only one stat priory)
i expect it to save the actual artifact pieces once you chose them, not the configuration you use to look them up
but we'll see ig
retry button after completing abyss chambers with < 3 stars, yes!
I've requested that multiple times in the survey
Catch
anther thing I requested.. but I was asking for ascension mat bosses to be claimable with condensed resin rather than 40 original resin 
hopefully they added that as well
Did the kinich stage guy upload a video
honestly I don't blame him if he didn't cuz it's maldfest with low invest/trial chars 
I just don't believe that healer less c1 furina mona hutao can clear after seeing bilibili low invest clears on kinich stage
I think the premise is flawed
But I'm open to being wrong
it was down to the wire on several occasions but i made it
if it's Xq (instead of Mona) and maybe c1r1 Tao I'd believe it more
not yet
they posted a lot about strategy as I was attempting it
but were themselves trying Mavuika's stage at the time

By the time mona ult is up furina is already at 0 fanfare per rotation
Or well, 100
And 0 E damage bonus
on the kinich i was resetting until i could kill the robot in 1 rotation
crit fishing needed there
so that i would start the new rotation on the ruin guard
and kill the shield while setting up my supports
they said mc is good against the papilla shield, and can also cheese the rock elemental (kill it by filling up its bar rather than depleting its hp)
I haven't gotten close to applying that much pyro, though. With burning and MC or Bennett skill spam, it's still almost dead before the bar is full (despite my MC having lvl1 talents)
and they kept staggering the Wayob and killed it before shield (something I got close to but never managed with Mavuika)
they basically got one more enemy on both sides than my best clears could've
should be
Papilla + the one after
and Wayob + the one after
the one after Papilla is Ruin Drake
Wayob should be the last for 2nd half
I got the same score so
it starts from the beginning after Wayob?
yep
or well if not Wayob it's smth else
but I highly doubt they have enough dmg past Wayob
my best record was like ~5s on Wayob
not even enough to setup 
I will say, what's nice about specifically Hutao for this
it gives you one side that doesn't need Bennett
yeh
in theory you should have Neuv for second half
but the Wayob has 50% hydro res and these elements have no res shredders
plus the stage bonus doesn't apply to Neuv
just c2 Nilou / Sigewinne

my current attempt is with Neuv, Furina, Mavuika
Mav on 4pc scroll, buffing Neuv who does all the enemies before Wayob
then for Wayob, Mav has to somehow get it before the shield by staggering
but my dps isn't enough, her burst runs out and then it seems I stop staggering it?
I got it to 20% before the shield appeared, a couple times
I just save Mav burst for shield
it's gonna be vaped too so it'll take down a good chunk of HP
I tried with Key on Furina at first, then switched to ER weapon (not sure which is better)
if you get burst by 2nd mob and onwards Key should be fine
clearing Wayob aside from the shield with Neuv, despite 50% hydro res?
it's 60% CR including 4pc codex?
my working theory is they looked up a guide and it said to aim for 60% CR 
nvm it's 66% including codex
at least mine is, but I assume it's the same artifacts for everyone
there aren't any crit rate buffs we can give him, right?
this event would be bearable with food
I should crown her skill talent
Iansan using the same talent book and Escoffier using the same boss mat delayed me
crit ratio is 94.2 : 189.5 including the weapon passive
my scroll flower / plume are so much better than my codex ones
though I guess these would be bad codex pieces due to the high CR

anyone on deepwood, btw?
oh, and their MC is on deepwood they said
with Bennett on Aquila
nope ^^
I fucked up my rot on 2nd half cuz I dont have Favge Furina
Xq needed that Fav proc 
on my first successful attempt it was Favrina but I decided to see if I can get away with Festering
is that trial Kinich or real Kinich?
trial
c0r1 Emilie
c6 Aquila Bennett
c0r3 (Skyward) Klee
c0 Mav (Aquamarine + Cinder)
c2 Furina
c6 Fav Xq
TTDS Klee lowkey might have been better
Is iansan burst crown worthy?
didn't you ask this yesterday
it's among the talents with bigger impact I believe, same as Bennett burst
(pretty much what was said yesterday)
We found the one still stuck in the samsara festival 


Pls help me I can't do any damage to this boss
Is alrecchino mavuika Citlali and maybe Bennett or xilonen good team??? Dual dps?? I don’t know cuz why not
No
the first consideration is reactions
Mavuika has off-field pyro application, so she'll shift the balance between cryo and pyro
Arlecchino already has to slow down her pyro application to prevent pyro from taking over
Mavuika will make it so Arlecchino can't melt
she's also just a stronger dps than Arlecchino, if you have Citlali
you be better served running Sucrose, Xilonen or Iansan rather than Arlecchino
Yep Nilou’s running Xiphos
can run Key on Nilou and Xiphos on Ayato
since he has good AoE hydro application
(that said, nilou bloom is one of those teams that have been left behind by powercreep)
I don’t have Key 😅
if you're like me (wanting more xiphos refinements), you'll get it eventually 😄
I might just build him for burst support so I can use him in IT
Xiphos is too rare it’s back in the basement
fair, hydro has few 4-stars
how do I do the pizza quest? like the one I need to give to ayaka? I don’t have the recipe, I can’t cook one, don’t have one in my inventory etc and I have also checked the lair. idk what to do and I can’t go on w the storyline
can’t you just unlock the recipe
from what i remember it’s not hard
how tho
i aint got the recipe in my inventory
yeah I have before and it’s in some chest in the lair but i don’t have that chest
I personally don’t remember already
cuz I can’t go on w the storyline so like
are you doing her story quest?
yeah cuz i need to do her story quest before i unlock the main story quest
are you sure you unlocked the right chest
and are you sure you didn’t learn the recipe already and just missed it in the cooking menu
yeah cuz it’s not there anymore, ive had genshin since it was released but played on and off. so i must of alr taken it or sum but i still ain’t got the recipe
yeah pretty sure
I do recommend making sure one more time cus it shouldn’t happen
yeah I’ll check when I get home but still think it’s weird
is there any way I can contact them?
The quest gives you the recipe
just use the search function and you'll find it
can do so from Paimon menu > feedback
alr I’ll try that but still think it’s weird that it doesn’t pop up otherwise
wdym search function?
there ain’t one in the backpack
there is in the cooking station
oh wth why did it only show up when I searched for it, thank you
stringless or chain breaker for fischl?
i wasted a billet 😔
stringless because of atk buffs from other sources
Guys which one is better? I got r5 wolf grave
guys what does chart a course mean for that bannerr? who is the best to pick?
Chronicled or weapons?
chronicle
Either way if you need to ask idt you should be pulling
?
Do you have like 160 pulls?
No im just asking for which character is the best out of all of them
I would just skip this banner
who is better to pull for kazuha or koko
Id probably go kazuha but there's more options for res shred these days than kazuha
His value has definitely fallen off
does he have a replacement orr
how can you tell when a character’s value has fallen
I think they maybe implying newest character escoffier that has a nice 55% res shred and her skill lasts for 20s, when kazu need to reapply vv each 10s
And if your team have restrictions like all electro or pyro or all hydro or cryo we simply don't have a slot for anemo, but he is still very useful and very fun to play, especially vs groups of enemies, one of the most satisfying skills in genshin
I would definitely select him first before kokomi
(what kind of scam am I looking at here?)
hmm, so only dendro chars can really maintain this buff. right?
applying pyro on a burning enemy would not count as "trigger burning"
maybe it works from off-field
huh, discord says this but didn't remove the message? 🤔
When current meta teams don’t really use the character. Xilonen is pretty similar to him so she replaced him in most of them, Kazuha still has grouping as an advantage over her but it hasn’t been too relevant recently. Escoffier also kicked him out of freeze recently
is Neuv Furina Xilo Kaz the only meta team that uses Kaz at the moment?
I think it might be
also arle mono pyro i guess
mmh, I guess
usually her melt and vape teams are better I think, but against certain enemies you'd use monopyro
yeah true, depends on the content you are fighting)
you might use Xilonen in his place there
but Kaz has pyro app of his own, if you're against cryo shields
or maybe Lava Dragon Statue
i've seen many people use both xilo and kazu in the same team to save other characters for other teams
makes sense I guess, kinda like Neuv's team
though if monopyro has an edge over melt and vape, it's probably because of pyro application
so I was assuming a team with high pyro app, like Arle Ben Xl Kaz
that said, Chevreuse also has good pyro application so maybe you'd just run overload
cryo shields / inherent cryo aura would prevent triggering overload though
i dont think arle mono pyro should count as meta relevant
its not a bad team per se its just such a meaningful downgrade from arles other teams that I dont consider it relevant just because arle still is
yeah, absolutely, it's meta relevant only in a specific archetype, let say if we would get another version of current event but with exclusively pyro and anemo allowed
I never understood how burning "triggers" tbh
Nahida can't reliably maintain max stacks of fruit of fulfillment in my testing
it triggers when you first get burning and thats it
646126177 Need help doing sum Nathan exploration I’m bored!
nathan
who is the most irrelevant 5 star that has come out in terms of how known / talked about they are








