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opal surge
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Whether or not that mora is worth you learning a good route and doing it is up to you

bright cape
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i wanted to lvl 20 an artifact.

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it was at 16. ultimately ended up feeding 5 star artifacts RaiDerp

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i am confused if it's worth strongboxing kek

lyric cargo
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yeah, daily
99 spots + one final location

and a bunch of additional spots

after you pick up the 100th, no more spots will load in

but the region you were in when doing the 100th will still have its spots loaded

bright cape
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oh yah.

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haven't received good artifact from strongbox in a while.

bright cape
opal surge
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Boxing is just worth it there's nothing else to do with the fodder 5*s

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Eventually you will have enough artifact xp as the average artifact quality on your account raises

bright cape
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hats off to the trial players who identified every investigation spot if it's artifact/mora/weapon

bright cape
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rn i am levelling as much as possible so i don't have to move around artifacts too much

lyric cargo
# bright cape my guide video did exactly this

you can start by learning one route
gives you around 80k artifact exp and 20k mora a day, if all the spots are with mora

downside to a single route if you want to do it daily is that they take 24h to reappear
so the next day, the time you can do it will be later than the day before

bright cape
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i will only do it when i am in a pinch

lyric cargo
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I'd recommend this channel, for artifact routes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMIuZsTRUsE&pp=0gcJCbAJAYcqIYzv

The first Morax Route, an artifact route where the first 99 artifact spots all have Mora!

Artifact Route Planner by me:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11d9XyWgE3ec7Fad_zoGsb5KIGw7uczH71hbhAH7SReY/edit?usp=sharing

0:00 Intro
1:54 Route Prep
2:39 Natlan + Asipa
4:29 Fontaine
9:02 Liyue
11:46 Sumeru
15:48 Khemenu Temple Extension
18:36 Ex...

▶ Play video
bright cape
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thanks KeqingHeart_pixels

lyric cargo
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so much more mora focused, and more time intensive

bright cape
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the guy moves so fast with scara n chasca.

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it might take me 1 hour to just follow along his video HeheSmile

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i will save it for my next run

lyric cargo
bright cape
lyric cargo
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I think they might be speedrunning to demonstrate how fast the route can be

bright cape
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yah.

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is it worth crafting chainbreaker for ororon?

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i am using fav rn

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he is kinda unbuilt

opal surge
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Not really

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Chain breaker overperformed for a while in calcs because it didn't work the way it was worded

bright cape
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i am surprised how he alone can fill mavuika's burst meter

lyric cargo
opal surge
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Mavuika gives herself 80/100

bright cape
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or CAs

opal surge
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Yeah

bright cape
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i dunno how she fills her bar

opal surge
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Nightsoul consumption in the team or normal attacks

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She consumes nightsoul herself

lyric cargo
bright cape
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i was surprised how my overloaded mavuika was hitting more than my furina vape one

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overloaded did have c6 cheveruse

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it works very well on 2nd side this abyss

viral mulch
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polite car

haughty lotus
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Give me 6 hours

viral mulch
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you have 6 hours

haughty lotus
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What should I spend the first 4 hours doing

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Any suggestions?

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I hate doechii.

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Never heard it 👍

cedar flint
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looks fine to me

forest venture
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new IT drpped

thorn bay
bright cape
thorn bay
bright cape
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my mavuika was getting burst very regularly

thorn bay
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Mavuika fills her bar the fastest

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Followed by trav xilo

bright cape
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i know xilo was fast

thorn bay
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It’s so random

bright cape
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anyways. mavuika, ororon, bennett, chev c6 is banger team

thorn bay
bright cape
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it's worth it

thorn bay
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I bought xingqui

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And gave all I had for Layla on the last minute of the banner

bright cape
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it's fine

sage sail
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got 3 double crit artifacts today and none of them cracked 25cv at +16

valid anchor
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Good for me. Hope you like Ayaya. Ayayaka

thorn bay
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Wait

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Does atk speed buff work for chascas gun

cedar flint
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besides atk speed buffers don’t really buff charge attack speed

strange scarab
haughty lotus
strange scarab
haughty lotus
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Why no nuts

strange scarab
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You tell me

haughty lotus
strange scarab
strange scarab
haughty lotus
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Gonna goon?

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Happy birthday, I suppose

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Born on the same day as paimon 🥀

dusty cape
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cringe

strange scarab
dusty cape
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soon to be less cringe fingers crossed

strange scarab
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wait wrong perdon

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Kekw

dusty cape
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lamo

strange scarab
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I was about to say hullo

dusty cape
strange scarab
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Hullo to yuo

dusty cape
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gallo

strange scarab
dusty cape
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red chat

forest venture
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now it's blue

crude dirge
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maybe hyperbloom

bright cape
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how is cyno played?

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like his normal combo.

crude dirge
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HIS or team?

bright cape
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his

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do i just q and normal spam?

crude dirge
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no theres better thing

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e, Q, e (can do some NA before, but use E once off cd), spam NA and use E whenever u have passive

bright cape
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thanks

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1 down 9 more to go

crude dirge
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what

bright cape
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i am doing theatre

sage sail
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i just got 2 more double crit artifacts from back to back boss runs bringing my total for today to 5

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let's see if they're any better

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they're both useful too

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hp WT goblet and atk glad goblet

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2 low rolls on the hp WT so it's out

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aaaaand the atk goblet failed on the last roll

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and since it's 3 subs it's a dud

bright cape
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how to fight this?

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i am having trouble beating the final boss

rugged sparrow
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it's even written

bright cape
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i have made him stop the spinning.

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but damage is not enough

rugged sparrow
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build issue then? Klee_Derp

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also no dendro? to maximize IT buffs

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or do you not take the upgrades

bright cape
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i usually don't take upgrades

rugged sparrow
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.

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the element upgrades are probably the only thing that help barely invested chars to clear

bright cape
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i maxed out electro+cryo. but it's not doing much 😭

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also wrio is of someone from here HeheSmile

rugged sparrow
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u just upgrade each of them to level 3 first

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so your brilliance blessing will be maxed

bright cape
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oh ok. next time

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so how do we play wrio?

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do we have to use his e?

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i am doing two normals and one charged

rugged sparrow
rugged sparrow
bright cape
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what does his e do?

rugged sparrow
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enhance his basics

bright cape
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oh ok

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does it persist character swaps?

rugged sparrow
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nope

bright cape
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oh may be that's also why i am losing dps

rugged sparrow
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just think of his E like Yoimiya / Wanderer / Childe in a way

bright cape
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should i q start or end of rotation?

rugged sparrow
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doesn't really matter

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his Q is hardly any of his dmg contribution

bright cape
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lemme try adding xiangling

rugged sparrow
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ideally nearing at the end of his E cooldown

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like around 2s-ish cooldown remaining on E

bright cape
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oh ok

bright cape
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i thought maxing out one was enough

bright cape
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also thanks for wrio. @quaint fern

rugged sparrow
rugged sparrow
bright cape
rugged sparrow
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it's more than 10%+ increase and you get to abuse all 3 element combination at once

bright cape
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oh ok

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i had 7 blessings. u had 9

opal surge
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I just spam upgrades because half of my IT characters don't actually have artifacts equipped

bright cape
opal surge
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Yeah I've never missed a star

rugged sparrow
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half of upgrades either lower resist (for overgeared chars it's good)
or just add aoe flat dmg which is good for godawful chars

bright cape
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i didn't know that. i usually select characters

opal surge
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All my lvl 70s are 70/70 TL 1/1/1 no artifacts lvl 1 weapon

rugged sparrow
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you usually just need enough chars to run a stage

bright cape
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thanks. didn't know that

opal surge
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You want to have 2 strong characters per 2 stages prolly

rugged sparrow
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even 1 is enough

opal surge
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Else clearing might be an issue

rugged sparrow
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the last 3 are usually fillers to activate the blessings for me

opal surge
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But I never commit to playing 3 or more good characters at once

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Unless I just have to because I have no fodder

rugged sparrow
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my priority is just using starter chars asap omegadance

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*trial chars

opal surge
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Yeah I do 4x starters back to back in first two chambers

rugged sparrow
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then I prioritize using chars that have 2 usages left

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regardless of difficulty usually

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rn these happen to be my only 2 usages chars gladge

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we say good bye to ASIMON

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maxed blessings with ample of chars to use on last stage

bright cape
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nice

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i usually end up like this too

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i tryhard a lot on early stages

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with unbuilt bad characters

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only day i didn't reach platinum QiqiFallen

rugged sparrow
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dw everyone hates that Kinich stage

primal latch
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Is the sanctifying elixir in imaginarium theater just added now? I dont think i got one before there

rugged sparrow
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yes

bright cape
opal surge
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i wont lie mavuika sucks real bad on her own stage

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it makes mavuika look very balanced

lyric cargo
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when will they stop making cursed buffs that require changing your builds to fully utilize kek
(why no 60 cd instead of 10 cr and 40 cd)

frigid valley
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Could someone help me build a team for 12 - 3 of the abyss, thats the only floor i cant clear rn

bright cape
lyric cargo
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I could probably do Mavuika carry both sides, one with vape and one with melt

lyric cargo
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(I'm assuming it's second half)

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after failing to break the shield and losing a char a couple times, in the end I just went to the edge of the arena and waited out the shield rather restarting and changing team

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it gains very high res, but time was not the issue for me

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to break the shield, you want fast elemental hits. preferably from Natlan chars

frigid valley
bright cape
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he gives good amount of time before recharging his shields again

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i was playing too agro and died a lot too kek

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
viral mulch
# frigid valley yeah

theres a rule in which order the papilla transforms into which may or may not help you if you know

viral mulch
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where my cons at

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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wew

viral mulch
lyric cargo
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my first attempt clears are just: own the char? plat. Else: gold

bright cape
viral mulch
bright cape
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weird not seeing u with one

viral mulch
bright cape
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i also got to use citlali with her today

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even with trial, the difference is very much noticeable

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hope she reruns soon

viral mulch
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citlalis too broken

viral mulch
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i swapped to the wrong char twice but u know what ill take it

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five hundred cigarettes

keen willow
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When did stela rewards become a thing in ITVentiCringe

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Im not getting 9 stars this cycle

keen willow
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PepeHands i have to redo this shit

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
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without 4p TF Clor it's kinda rough

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to use Clor in mob grinder event

lyric cargo
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trial Clor kek

rugged sparrow
bright cape
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use neuvillette whereever possible

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only kinich one was a bit rough

lyric cargo
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5200 first half, so the Neuv team got 15920 - 5200 = 10720

rugged sparrow
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try DMC / Yaoyao instead

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Nahida in mob grinder is just omegadance

lyric cargo
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instead of c2 Nahida? D:

rugged sparrow
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you dont have dendro aura half of the time

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which just kills ur dmg

lyric cargo
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hmmge

rugged sparrow
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Yaoyao is advised cuz her dendro app is locked behind E ig, DMC might struggle on first rot

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well, can't hurt to try

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worst that'll happen is losing few mins of your time

lyric cargo
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what about Kirara? I have nilou sig, but no c4

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guess that's a no-go

rugged sparrow
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nah Kirara is dead w/o c4

lyric cargo
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when you pull a c2 dendro support and have to use the f2p char instead kek

rugged sparrow
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that's just Nahida's weakness wcyd KeK

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off-field Nahida on multiwave

lyric cargo
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if you meant that by no dendro aura, then that's not a concern

rugged sparrow
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icic

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fair enough

bright cape
lyric cargo
bright cape
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yah. this event sucks ass if u don't have proper dps

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trial units are so bad cri

quaint fern
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i'm about to start rn

lyric cargo
bright cape
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took some time to learn him

quaint fern
lyric cargo
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it's just.. either use the sad trial Clorinde or play a 3 char team VentiCringe

bright cape
quaint fern
opal surge
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surely raiden agg will beat trial clorinde

bright cape
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raiden on-field and only use clorinde to clear mobs left with lower hp

lyric cargo
quaint fern
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so like it's not terrible there

rugged sparrow
opal surge
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well they only allow 2/3 elements needed for agg

bright cape
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i ran this.

opal surge
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maybe they thought clorinde is a spread dps

bright cape
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alhaitham took around 80% hp down. clorinde cleared the rest

quaint fern
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OMEGALUL wait this isn't terrible

bright cape
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sussynahida x5

lyric cargo
bright cape
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is there a way to check the points distribution between 2 floors?

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after clearing

lyric cargo
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if you remember which enemies you cleared, you could probably calculate it

opal surge
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this prolly would clear but idk

quaint fern
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scroll bot OMEGALUL

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I used beidou there

opal surge
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thats just what ororon always is

quaint fern
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I should really build my orororon one of these days

bright cape
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it was all 2nd half carrying

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
bright cape
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neuvi c1

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furina c0

lyric cargo
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Neuv sig?

bright cape
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yes

lyric cargo
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I have c0 no sig, and c1 on Furina

bright cape
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i also recently buffed my neuvi pretty well

bright cape
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one thing that makes this event a bit tougher is how characters start with zero energy QiqiFallen

opal surge
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ok ya trial clorinde is just terrible

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when trying to play clorinde

lyric cargo
bright cape
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i remember now. how i was missing a bit points.

lyric cargo
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my fav was lvl80 since all the chars using it were supports with minimal damage contribution

bright cape
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this stage is designed terribly

rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
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my Neuv team clears until the 6 Metachurl wave and, no further

rugged sparrow
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heckin' love trial chars

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instead of promoting chars with decent equip to raise interest in pulling

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they butcher chars so hard that it drives ppl off

lyric cargo
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if using Clor was optional, you could play a 4 char team with Tighnari / Raiden / etc

opal surge
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i think the kinich stage may have done irreparable damage to kinich's marketing

rugged sparrow
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if anything it makes ppl not want to pull even more

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"why cant I platinum on this character's shilled stage"

opal surge
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i went from having to play ass teams and barely 16king first two stages to doing 19k in the top stage alone when it came to a caharacter I actually owned myself

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on the 3rd day

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thanks for these trials uncle hoyo

rugged sparrow
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dont look at Kinich's stage score

bright cape
rugged sparrow
opal surge
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i didnt plat mavs stage today

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it felt ass to play so i cbad

bright cape
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i used neuvillette for 1st half. it made it a bit bearable

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and the trial citlali worked great for 2nd

wanton iris
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guys pls help me
what claymore is suitable for mavuika? wolf's gravestone or fang of the mountain king(kinich's weapon)???

opal surge
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wgs is better

wanton iris
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oh

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thanks

bright cape
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fang is 2nd

opal surge
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eh its close enough but i think its wrong

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but id have to see the sheet

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i wonder what the stack assumption is and WGS uptime assumption

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id assume WGS is 30% but

bright cape
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WGS passive is weird

rugged sparrow
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it is

viral mulch
strange scarab
viral mulch
opal surge
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Well mountain king doesn't have a passive at all

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You are at 0 stacks when you burst

rugged sparrow
rugged sparrow
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idk how many E hits Mavuika gets

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before she roadrage her enemies with her 500 tonnes bike

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comparatively WGS has no passive cuz enemies just die on initial Q cast KaeyaStare

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/hj

opal surge
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no she has 0 stacks of kinichs weapon during her entire uptime

rugged sparrow
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huh

opal surge
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i mean she never does skill damage during burst so

rugged sparrow
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yeah I mean

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the buff doesn't matter other than burst initial hit anyway

viral mulch
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that is why i should get c6 frfr fr fr rf

rugged sparrow
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and you get that buffed

opal surge
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nah

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you press E, you get 1 stack, buff 3 E offhit stacks with it, but the weapon doesnt stack offfield

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you lose th buff during setup and you never regain it

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until next rotation

viral mulch
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god they should rerun mavu sooner im sick of playing her in my current state

rugged sparrow
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oh it doesn't stack off-field? ok cringe

wanton iris
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guys should I pull kinich after I got his weapon? or invest for mavuika's weapon in her next rerun

rugged sparrow
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if u like Kinich go ahead

opal surge
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she gets it here, gets 3 skill damage instances with 10% damage buff in

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and then it just expires

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
bright cape
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one advantage of kinich weapon is u can drop-in replace with her signature without changing crit ratio

late pebble
bright cape
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good enough. u one cycled her

late pebble
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Would she do better w c6 fischl, chevreuse and sara?

quaint fern
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wait is this a new boss variant of the vishap boss that they put into theatre?

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i dont recall seeing one with an attack pattern like this

bright cape
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yep first time seeing. it was easy to kill so not memorable

bright cape
late pebble
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I only have c6 sara

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But what does c6 fischl do?

viral mulch
bright cape
fast rock
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Mauvika with her sig, is em sand better than atk%

bright cape
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atk for others

fast rock
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Ic

viral mulch
late pebble
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How does that help with damage

fast rock
viral mulch
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idk have u considered that u know more oz hits = more damage

late pebble
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Im talking about the main dps

bright cape
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i reach 2.2k on em

fast rock
bright cape
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should be

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looks like u got her signature

fast rock
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Yeah, I do

viral mulch
bright cape
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i use wgs

viral mulch
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your electro dps doing 2 million dmg then thats not happening cus should have not been an electro catlaugh

fast rock
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That give crazy atk right

bright cape
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yep

fast rock
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I don't have xilonen so I can't use instructor on citlali

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I use kazuha instead of her

opal surge
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there is no too much

fast rock
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Oh I see

viral mulch
# late pebble ??

u asked how c6 fischl helps with dmg and i told u how it helps with dmg

quaint fern
late pebble
opal surge
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teamdps is the only practical metric that matters

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It doesnt matter who does damage, only the total damage of the team matters

viral mulch
opal surge
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Bosses dont die faster because your carry is doing a higher percentage share of your teams damage

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they dont actually care

viral mulch
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lol imagine they make a boss where it gains res just for off field characters hits

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or even worse vice versa

opal surge
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a boss but the active character deals no damage

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kino

fast rock
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For theatre, I got 6 stars on ACT 8, if I redo in act 6 and got the stars I'm missing,will it show 8 stars?

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Like the abyss

viral mulch
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afaik u have to do in one run

fast rock
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Damn

bright cape
fast rock
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Cyno is so terrible, literally unplayable

opal surge
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cyno collei duo was mega fine first two stages

late pebble
fast rock
quaint fern
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wayob?

fast rock
quaint fern
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yeah idt you can here

opal surge
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but i did spam blessings

late pebble
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what.

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Ur joking right

quaint fern
opal surge
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in battle chronicles just like abyss no

viral mulch
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ngl for this theater immediately spamming cryo dendro buff is prob the best idea

quaint fern
opal surge
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I think th eyre misunderstanding

late pebble
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How much primos did i miss on cry

quaint fern
fast rock
opal surge
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you still need to clear every chamber in time

quaint fern
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you still need to be able to 36 it

opal surge
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you cant just do the s ame thing and stack stars

quaint fern
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^

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funny enough, I always find the first few stages of IT to be the hardest

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but that's bc I'm trying to find the cheapest way to clear while saving the better characters

opal surge
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think if you just spawn and only buy blessings the trial characters are just op

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i always play 4x trial back to back first two stages

quaint fern
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OH

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i see, you spam blessings early on

fast rock
quaint fern
viral mulch
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i mostly just dont read and ooga booga click

quaint fern
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whale behavior

nova swift
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average genshin player

viral mulch
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r*ading

quaint fern
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you dont need to clear all the goals to get those rewards, just clear the chamber

late pebble
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Abyss or theater

quaint fern
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theatre

late pebble
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Now im more foncused

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Didnt u just say that about the abyss

quaint fern
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okay so abyss works like this:

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lets say you get 2 stars on chamber 12-1 and then 3 stars on chambers 12-2 and 12-3. That's 35 stars

viral mulch
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too many numbers he cant understand

quaint fern
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you can go back in after finishing that run and then 3 star 12-1, this will make your total 36 star

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and you can claim the full rewards for 36 star

late pebble
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Ohh in like the theater theres 2 things ur supposed to reach

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In specific time

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Hold on

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I only need to finish the first one to get the primogems?

quaint fern
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yes

late pebble
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Oh..

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I dont read the tutorial at all i js focus on the primos

quaint fern
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stellas used to not matter until this reset

late pebble
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Why

quaint fern
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now there are additional stella rewards but I wouldn't worry about it too much

haughty lotus
quaint fern
haughty lotus
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whoa

quaint fern
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sorry I should have specified pookie (platonic)

haughty lotus
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ah

viral mulch
primal latch
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Can you use foods in the event? The one with platinum medals?

rugged sparrow
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this event specifically no

primal latch
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Thankss, no idea how i could get platinum medals then haha

lyric cargo
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only if you can get it, though. the difference between 0 and 8 stats isn't that big

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so only worry about it if it's close?

quaint fern
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Yeah but if they're on 8 chambers only then not a huge deal

ripe surge
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should i go anemo dps or reaction dps for ifa if paired with ororon??

narrow folio
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Sleeper game mode

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Thanks for the free elixir Hoyo

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
# opal surge when trying to play clorinde

I don't get the Varesa stage tbh
it's like it's trying to tell you "use both her premium teams"
Xy Furina first half, OL second
but only one has Iansan, so instead it's telling you to run Neuv first half

lyric cargo
opal surge
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overload without iansan is fine

lyric cargo
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oh?
Bennett I guess?

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I'll give it a shot

narrow folio
lyric cargo
ripe surge
narrow folio
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Says she's not good, I dare you

opal surge
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she doesnt play xianyun

lyric cargo
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she's like
current stage power creep

narrow folio
lyric cargo
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her numbers match the current dps level, but I don't think she has the QoL to make her good long-term?
I only really go for the on-fielders that add a lot of value to an account

narrow folio
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She's definitely one of the stronger characters, I doubt she'll just become obsolete just like that

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Also, what do you consider an onfielder that adds a lot of value? Nevuilette, Mavuika, okay. What are the other options? KEKWhat

lyric cargo
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(it's not exactly a "we're about to get the archon" situation with Varesa, though)

narrow folio
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Arlecchino isn't just dead in the water though, she's still strong

haughty lotus
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yet shes still really good and clears all content easily

lyric cargo
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just outclassed

narrow folio
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By one character, cool

haughty lotus
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why pull anyone, theyll just get beaten eventually TimmothysRat

lyric cargo
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question is how long you'll get good value out of the char imo

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I consider Chasca to be more worth, since what she does is more unique

narrow folio
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I'm not following this logic, who's to say Chasca doesn't get outclassed in like two patches? Why is it an issue for Arle

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Or Varesa

lyric cargo
fiery wigeon
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Bruh what is this imagining theater i cannot star the first stage nothings doing any damage bruh

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3 restarts already and its just ahh

narrow folio
fiery wigeon
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Like how they gonna give me a cyno with 2 crit damage broo

narrow folio
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I'm not even trying to argue

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I just wanna understand

viral mulch
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i mean unless your chasca is like whale tier you prob wont ever use chasca without amplifying reaction in team

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so the multi element part kinda fades

opal surge
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I am playing freeze chasca a lot recently

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(c0)

narrow folio
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You got Esco?

viral mulch
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look at this whale

opal surge
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I do have coffee c1 but its not active in that team so

narrow folio
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Whale

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Pulling for cons smhduck

viral mulch
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but yea either way i dont rly think chascas super valuable as a pull cus in the end lack of dmg kinda restrictive enough for team versatility to fade more

opal surge
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I think what hidden is trying to express is rather than a character being the best at what they do its more important to them that they pull characters that they would continue playing in the future even if they pulled another character in the same nieche, as in its unlikely they would play melt arle if they had arle because they pulled mavuika

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so in a sense arle loses all "value" on their account

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despite being a good character

viral mulch
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tbh i dont think it matters in this state of the game that much and will only be more of a bigger thing to consider when powercreep kicks in even more

lyric cargo
viral mulch
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at least currently newer supports can still wheelchair older dps and also fontaine~early natlan dps are more than fine state

viral mulch
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its not a wrong way to think though

narrow folio
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I personally feel like if I had that mindset I would almost never pull for any character I like

opal surge
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its just a personal preference kind of thing how you view the game

narrow folio
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Cuz they'd be seen as "replaceable" in due time

viral mulch
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hiddens just that metaslave fr

opal surge
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if youre not really invested in characters as "characters" apart from gameplay elements then you may not care much to play a character that isnt optimal for your account in that scenario

narrow folio
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Like I wouldn't have pulled for Clorinde, Raiden, etc

haughty lotus
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Ellen

narrow folio
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I would've pulled for Ellen if she healed the enemy

viral mulch
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i dont rly disagree with hiddens thought but i do think its a little too cautious

viral mulch
narrow folio
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No I did

viral mulch
narrow folio
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I've lost every 50/50 so I legit couldn't afford her engine on either run

viral mulch
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wilted rose emoji

lyric cargo
viral mulch
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varesa especially on her banner with that 4* was a super valuable pull imo cus she gets a full team with just that which is both lowcost and doesnt share any other support with other top teams like neuv or mavu rn

lyric cargo
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I'm very much hoping they'll rerun Iansan on a banner where I can justify going for the 5-star soon

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(she's c1 right now)

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if I'm not optimizing, I'm not having fun

viral mulch
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wingdings

haughty lotus
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Didn’t you pull things like xianyun c1 sustainer

opal surge
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iansan will be on chascas rerun as da weis gift to me

lyric cargo
haughty lotus
lyric cargo
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yeah, I do pull for exploration when I can argue myself into it 😅

haughty lotus
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Also pull for fun characters then 😌

lyric cargo
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c1 was exploration + "stepping stone into c2"
I pulled c1 Mavuika partly for exploration as well

haughty lotus
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Language.

lyric cargo
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maybe if I get used to hoding Chev's skill, I can do it kek

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I'm way too used to switch → press skill from other supports

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now 15840

bright cape
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for me this setup was just enough

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lol. i was using trial chev

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just realized 😛

lyric cargo
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and c6 Chev instead of trial ^^

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maybe Ororon is reasonable there, not sure
he gives off-field electro to Mav, and the stage effect makes that grouping as well

viral mulch
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how to play chev
swap
oh oops i pressed e
oh well

lyric cargo
bright cape
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and swap to vaersa when u have to clear some small enemies

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it worked for me

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also i think going atk sands can help for overloated mav

viral mulch
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overloated

trail meadow
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Heya, so im just getting back into this game and got lucky and pulled Raiden, problem is, is im ar 55 and Ive been trying to grind her materials but while doing so my world leveled up and I cant kill the boss on my own without it being a struggle, I was wondering if I could get some help (I had already reverted from 7 to 6 or something like that already)

hazy lotus
trail meadow
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ah, mb

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its fine if ur busy I can go on the offical if you think it'll be easier o7 @hazy lotus

hazy lotus
violet cipher
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what team should I use here?

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to get 16K

elder bluff
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Use your characters instead of trial characters

quaint fern
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tbh i'm surprised that this felt okay to play vs the vishap

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
quaint fern
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I think I initially tried it with nahida + fischl but that cleared a bit to quickly

lyric cargo
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oh?

quaint fern
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my chamber 9 ended up being hydro elementals so good thing I saved nahida for that

lyric cargo
#

OT: using math engines to calculate 5.7 release time sillygoofy

violet cipher
sick quarry
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UID: 686189049
World Level: 6
Help With: Blazing Ruins
Number of Runs: 15

lyric cargo
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we can't eat food for this event, right?
if we can, I've been making it unneccessarily difficult kek

lyric cargo
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ignoring Varesa and using Mav Oro Chev

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Oro means no Iansan buff, but there's full uptime on the grouping buff (and also Chevreuse's)

lyric cargo
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what do you have in mind

elder bluff
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Chat gpt kek

lyric cargo
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normally I check the fandom's version page for the release date

elder bluff
lyric cargo
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idk why I'd use a next word prediction engine to do math

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it's correct here of couse, but haven't these text generation engines been known to do calculations wrong sometimes?

elder bluff
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You can use multiple AIs to cross check kek

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Or check the steps yourself

lyric cargo
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or I could use a math engine kek

elder bluff
violet cipher
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I need help for this, or should I just rewind?

lyric cargo
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I'm waiting for the guide video telling me which enemies to select for each stage

violet cipher
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nvm I got it

lyric cargo
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finally got the 6640 first half, with Iansan + ttds Nahida buffing Fischl
now I gotta reset because Neuv is on the wrong weapon

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can't clear 2nd half to the point I did yesterday, even though it would now be enough

lyric cargo
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now it's just the Kinich stage

lyric cargo
# lyric cargo now it's just the Kinich stage

first half is kinda cursed because neither trial char is on deepwood
gotta run a deepwood pyro unit if the dendro dmg is supposed to be good

second half with Neuv is kinda cursed because the Wayob Manifestation has 50% hydro res and there's no VV / Xilo
also, Neuv doesn't benefit from the skill / burst dmg buff the stage gives
so I guess it's gotta be 2nd half Mav or Kinich carry

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oh, and this is ttds + burst Nahida not using her skill, since Bennett is needed first half kek
because too much dendro app would prevent vape
but that makes it a healerles Furina team

elder bluff
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you are not required to include all recommended elements

lyric cargo
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who would you use if not Nahida there?

elder bluff
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you can use other hydro there. xingqiu, yelan, kokomi

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heck, even use neuvillette

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make it neuvi main team instead

lyric cargo
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maybe it's still the best option. I don't think I'm getting plat then

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I'm trying Mav + Furi + ttds Barbara right now

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meh, you're right. I guess Neuv is still better than Barb there
even just to fill fanfare
and the enemies before the Wayob don't have that hydro res

lyric cargo
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if I kill the wayob and do well first side, I think 15200 is the limit
still nowhere close

primal latch
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Should i crown iansan burst?

rugged sparrow
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do you crown your Bennett's burst

fringe bear
fast rock
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For lam yan, skyward atlas or sac frag r2?

keen willow
fast rock
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😐

lyric cargo
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if it's an atk scaler, then ttds is likely best

fast rock
lyric cargo
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since most of the content we get in genshin now is "beat the timer"

fast rock
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Ok,how much er does she need

lyric cargo
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always depends on the team. there are sometimes more or less accurate approximate answers

opal surge
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she needs no er

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if you dont have burst just dont burst thumb

lyric cargo
#

yeah, the shield comes from her skill and I guess you burst whenever you burst?

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burst is grouping, right? so assume you're in an AoE chamber you want to burst every rotation if possible..?

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idk how good it is

opal surge
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its pretty mediocre grouping

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if you do want to burst every rotation then yeah, consult the ERC in pins

rugged sparrow
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only consider burst every rot with c4 + the team benefits from the EM

lyric cargo
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what black magic is this? kek

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every other plat clear with trial kinich I've seen used some big whale constellations

opal surge
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this is cheated probably

lyric cargo
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hmm

lyric cargo
opal surge
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they can feel free to post a video of both sides i dont see why they would record first half only

rugged sparrow
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I'd like to see the run too

lyric cargo
#

they said they'll record and post one, so stay tuned 🙂

viral mulch
#

tun

rugged sparrow
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I did it @opal surge ...

bright cape
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what team did u use?

rugged sparrow
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c2 Furina, r1 Emilie

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I actually used Kinich omegadance

bright cape
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damn. i got neither of those

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is it possible with trial emilie

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and say xiangling

rugged sparrow
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I mean the person on top got it

bright cape
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yah. if he posts a video, may be i can follow it

rugged sparrow
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I can try XL ig but Klee helped me get Bennett burst when I needed it

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it's mostly just critfishing with trial Kinich

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
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in any case it's super mald

quaint fern
lyric cargo
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I guess it's completely randomly rolled artifacts?
or a very low substat goal

rugged sparrow
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I barely have enough dmg for 2nd half to kill Wayob

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after good amount of critfishing agreege

quaint fern
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Oh yeah I finally got around to finishing sacred mountain yesterday

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I may or may not have set off a nuke...

rugged sparrow
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sir

quaint fern
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I was curious if the game would stop you or not XD

rugged sparrow
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it'd be hella hilarious if the game just resets you to 0 if you actually nuked Teyvat

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no refunds omegadance
easy lawsuit

viral mulch
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i recently went out and did rest of sumeru statue and that was the worst mistake of my life

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this region shall burn

rugged sparrow
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Sumeru is bearable after map update

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you should've been exploring the desert pre-update

viral mulch
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u know

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i know i hate myself like i literally play wanderer and shit

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but even then there are boundaries that i will not cross

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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act like theyre included

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and lyney and uh some other ppl that i prob forgor

rugged sparrow
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is Lyney that bad

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can't be worse than playing Klee cuz u actually outputting dmg

viral mulch
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kinda became maldy on reaction rng now that he has to use reactions

rugged sparrow
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true, Citlali is a thing

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do u just double cryo it

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Bennett Lyney Cit + 1

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c6 Diona AdmiralLetsFuckingGo

viral mulch
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cit esco engine trust

rugged sparrow
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Escoff casually sheeting over 300-400k DPR with just pressing E

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peak unit

viral mulch
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i just called some randos kinich build bad and hes now full time mad at me

rugged sparrow
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how bad

viral mulch
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he had like 1700 atk

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and what i think is blackcliff weapon

rugged sparrow
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ok blackcliff automatic bad

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deserved tbh

viral mulch
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took the opportunity and ragebaited a little more

rugged sparrow
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Earth Shaker is free and this guy chose Blackcliff like he's playing Xiao in 2021 without sig

viral mulch
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like he ditched his previous job if he had any now his career is a full time hater

rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
uncut herald
#

HELP I DID A SPONTANEOUS 10 PULL I say spontaneous but I have been thinking about it for a whole week bc I wanted to fish for 1 more Sara con AND GOT AYATO IN LIKE 6 PITY SO NOW I HAVE A FATE POINT BUT I ALREADY HAVE C1 CHIORI. WHAT DO I DO. DO I COMMIT FOR C2???

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ALSO I got my last Sara con in that same 10 pull so I don’t even need Sara cons anymore!!

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ALSO ALSO Chiori is still running a… 3* weapon

feral reef
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Pull

uncut herald
#

I think I will pull but not before I spend at least another week debating whether or not to pull. Can you tell I’m indecisive? ChildePain

haughty lotus
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You have a 100k primos vro, just pull

uncut herald
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But what if Fontaine CW comes next patch?!?!

haughty lotus
uncut herald
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Thank you for the motivational words VentiLipBite

haughty lotus
haughty lotus
uncut herald
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Result: C2 Chiori in 80 pulls, no more Sara cons, and I’m broke down to 92k primos

haughty lotus
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:NOWAYING:

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Unrecoverable debt

uncut herald
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Indeed. Looks like I’ll have to skip pulling next patch
RaiDerp

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Sooo is Ayato worth building?

buoyant cove
#

Is Blackcliff really bad or has it just been powercrept

quaint fern
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It's pretty ass

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Unless you're a certain green lamenter with no other good and currently obtainable 4* options OMEGALUL

strange scarab
haughty lotus
haughty lotus
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Freaky ass.

placid spindle
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fellas

am i eligible to be a Kaz main with this build?
and ideas of improvement?

haughty lotus
placid spindle
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but i wanna dps with him

haughty lotus
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em is his dps build

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Unless you’re going mono anemo TimmothysRat

strange scarab
haughty lotus
quaint fern
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They'll do anything but give us real presets 💔

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6.0 SURELY

forest venture
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only way to find out is tomorrow's dev discussion ig

viral mulch
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dev post is out

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they seemingly added an actual preset but we'll see if its real preset fr

lyric cargo
small pond
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can someone dumb down the bond of life how do i clear it cus my characters cant heal

strange scarab
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heal till its gone

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simple

neon harness
strange scarab
lyric cargo
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wether or not it's useful depends on wether it auto-picks the right pieces for your char. it works pretty well for builds like hyperbloom (only one stat priory)

neon wave
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i expect it to save the actual artifact pieces once you chose them, not the configuration you use to look them up

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but we'll see ig

lyric cargo
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retry button after completing abyss chambers with < 3 stars, yes!

I've requested that multiple times in the survey

neon harness
lyric cargo
#

anther thing I requested.. but I was asking for ascension mat bosses to be claimable with condensed resin rather than 40 original resin VentiLipBite

hopefully they added that as well

opal surge
rugged sparrow
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honestly I don't blame him if he didn't cuz it's maldfest with low invest/trial chars omegadance

opal surge
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I just don't believe that healer less c1 furina mona hutao can clear after seeing bilibili low invest clears on kinich stage

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I think the premise is flawed

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But I'm open to being wrong

sage sail
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it was down to the wire on several occasions but i made it

rugged sparrow
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if it's Xq (instead of Mona) and maybe c1r1 Tao I'd believe it more

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
strange scarab
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stupid event

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what to use for clor and varesa

opal surge
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By the time mona ult is up furina is already at 0 fanfare per rotation

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Or well, 100

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And 0 E damage bonus

lyric cargo
# lyric cargo not yet they posted a lot about strategy as I was attempting it but were themsel...

on the kinich i was resetting until i could kill the robot in 1 rotation
crit fishing needed there
so that i would start the new rotation on the ruin guard
and kill the shield while setting up my supports

they said mc is good against the papilla shield, and can also cheese the rock elemental (kill it by filling up its bar rather than depleting its hp)
I haven't gotten close to applying that much pyro, though. With burning and MC or Bennett skill spam, it's still almost dead before the bar is full (despite my MC having lvl1 talents)

and they kept staggering the Wayob and killed it before shield (something I got close to but never managed with Mavuika)

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they basically got one more enemy on both sides than my best clears could've

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should be
Papilla + the one after
and Wayob + the one after

rugged sparrow
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the one after Papilla is Ruin Drake
Wayob should be the last for 2nd half

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I got the same score so

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

yep

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or well if not Wayob it's smth else
but I highly doubt they have enough dmg past Wayob

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my best record was like ~5s on Wayob

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not even enough to setup PepeLaugh

lyric cargo
#

I will say, what's nice about specifically Hutao for this
it gives you one side that doesn't need Bennett

rugged sparrow
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yeh

lyric cargo
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in theory you should have Neuv for second half
but the Wayob has 50% hydro res and these elements have no res shredders
plus the stage bonus doesn't apply to Neuv

lyric cargo
#

my current attempt is with Neuv, Furina, Mavuika
Mav on 4pc scroll, buffing Neuv who does all the enemies before Wayob

then for Wayob, Mav has to somehow get it before the shield by staggering
but my dps isn't enough, her burst runs out and then it seems I stop staggering it?

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I got it to 20% before the shield appeared, a couple times

rugged sparrow
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I just save Mav burst for shield

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it's gonna be vaped too so it'll take down a good chunk of HP

lyric cargo
#

I tried with Key on Furina at first, then switched to ER weapon (not sure which is better)

rugged sparrow
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if you get burst by 2nd mob and onwards Key should be fine

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

no I used the trial Kinich omegalul

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my lineup was Furina Xq Mav Kinich

lyric cargo
#

oh

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happy crit fishing 😄

rugged sparrow
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happy indeed

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when my bolt doesn't crit I die a little

lyric cargo
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nvm it's 66% including codex

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at least mine is, but I assume it's the same artifacts for everyone

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there aren't any crit rate buffs we can give him, right?

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this event would be bearable with food

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I should crown her skill talent
Iansan using the same talent book and Escoffier using the same boss mat delayed me

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crit ratio is 94.2 : 189.5 including the weapon passive
my scroll flower / plume are so much better than my codex ones
though I guess these would be bad codex pieces due to the high CR

rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

Emilie

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idk if trial Emilie is on Deepwood or not

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

I fucked up my rot on 2nd half cuz I dont have Favge Furina
Xq needed that Fav proc omegadance

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on my first successful attempt it was Favrina but I decided to see if I can get away with Festering

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

trial

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c0r1 Emilie
c6 Aquila Bennett
c0r3 (Skyward) Klee
c0 Mav (Aquamarine + Cinder)
c2 Furina
c6 Fav Xq

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TTDS Klee lowkey might have been better

primal latch
#

Is iansan burst crown worthy?

rugged sparrow
#

didn't you ask this yesterday

lyric cargo
#

(pretty much what was said yesterday)

neon harness
rugged sparrow
neon harness
elfin tusk
#

Pls help me I can't do any damage to this boss

thorn bay
#

Is alrecchino mavuika Citlali and maybe Bennett or xilonen good team??? Dual dps?? I don’t know cuz why not

opal surge
#

No

lyric cargo
#

Mavuika will make it so Arlecchino can't melt

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she's also just a stronger dps than Arlecchino, if you have Citlali

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you be better served running Sucrose, Xilonen or Iansan rather than Arlecchino

uncut herald
lyric cargo
#

since he has good AoE hydro application

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(that said, nilou bloom is one of those teams that have been left behind by powercreep)

uncut herald
#

I don’t have Key 😅

lyric cargo
uncut herald
#

I might just build him for burst support so I can use him in IT

#

Xiphos is too rare it’s back in the basement

lyric cargo
tidal hamlet
#

how do I do the pizza quest? like the one I need to give to ayaka? I don’t have the recipe, I can’t cook one, don’t have one in my inventory etc and I have also checked the lair. idk what to do and I can’t go on w the storyline

cedar flint
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from what i remember it’s not hard

tidal hamlet
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i aint got the recipe in my inventory

cedar flint
#

google how to unlock pizza recipe Genshin

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should be the first thing that pops out

tidal hamlet
#

yeah I have before and it’s in some chest in the lair but i don’t have that chest

cedar flint
#

I personally don’t remember already

tidal hamlet
#

cuz I can’t go on w the storyline so like

cedar flint
#

are you doing her story quest?

tidal hamlet
#

yeah cuz i need to do her story quest before i unlock the main story quest

cedar flint
#

are you sure you unlocked the right chest

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and are you sure you didn’t learn the recipe already and just missed it in the cooking menu

tidal hamlet
#

yeah cuz it’s not there anymore, ive had genshin since it was released but played on and off. so i must of alr taken it or sum but i still ain’t got the recipe

cedar flint
#

I do recommend making sure one more time cus it shouldn’t happen

tidal hamlet
#

yeah I’ll check when I get home but still think it’s weird

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is there any way I can contact them?

neon wave
#

just use the search function and you'll find it

neon wave
tidal hamlet
#

wdym search function?

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there ain’t one in the backpack

neon wave
#

there is in the cooking station

tidal hamlet
#

oh wth why did it only show up when I searched for it, thank you

sterile ruin
#

stringless or chain breaker for fischl?

thorn bay
#

I think

sterile ruin
#

i wasted a billet 😔

fringe bear
hollow pendant
#

Guys which one is better? I got r5 wolf grave

manic salmon
#

guys what does chart a course mean for that bannerr? who is the best to pick?

manic salmon
quaint fern
#

Either way if you need to ask idt you should be pulling

manic salmon
#

?

quaint fern
#

Do you have like 160 pulls?

manic salmon
#

No im just asking for which character is the best out of all of them

quaint fern
#

I would just skip this banner

manic salmon
#

who is better to pull for kazuha or koko

quaint fern
#

Id probably go kazuha but there's more options for res shred these days than kazuha

#

His value has definitely fallen off

manic salmon
#

how can you tell when a character’s value has fallen

fringe bear
# manic salmon how can you tell when a character’s value has fallen

I think they maybe implying newest character escoffier that has a nice 55% res shred and her skill lasts for 20s, when kazu need to reapply vv each 10s
And if your team have restrictions like all electro or pyro or all hydro or cryo we simply don't have a slot for anemo, but he is still very useful and very fun to play, especially vs groups of enemies, one of the most satisfying skills in genshin

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I would definitely select him first before kokomi

lyric cargo
#

(what kind of scam am I looking at here?)

haughty lotus
lyric cargo
#

hmm, so only dendro chars can really maintain this buff. right?
applying pyro on a burning enemy would not count as "trigger burning"
maybe it works from off-field

lyric cargo
haughty lotus
lyric cargo
#

is Neuv Furina Xilo Kaz the only meta team that uses Kaz at the moment?

#

I think it might be

fringe bear
lyric cargo
#

usually her melt and vape teams are better I think, but against certain enemies you'd use monopyro

fringe bear
lyric cargo
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or maybe Lava Dragon Statue

fringe bear
lyric cargo
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makes sense I guess, kinda like Neuv's team

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though if monopyro has an edge over melt and vape, it's probably because of pyro application

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so I was assuming a team with high pyro app, like Arle Ben Xl Kaz

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that said, Chevreuse also has good pyro application so maybe you'd just run overload

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cryo shields / inherent cryo aura would prevent triggering overload though

opal surge
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i dont think arle mono pyro should count as meta relevant

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its not a bad team per se its just such a meaningful downgrade from arles other teams that I dont consider it relevant just because arle still is

fringe bear
quaint fern
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Nahida can't reliably maintain max stacks of fruit of fulfillment in my testing

opal surge
sleek tapir
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646126177 Need help doing sum Nathan exploration I’m bored!

viral mulch
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nathan

half anchor
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who is the most irrelevant 5 star that has come out in terms of how known / talked about they are