📌gimshim-help

[rugged sparrow]

Natlan units under Nightsoul Blessing gets 3x multiplier for the bar

Collei, Tenacity Yaoyao

[late locust]

im running arle bennet xilonen and kazuha for mono pyro

[rugged sparrow]

might struggle on 2nd / 3rd chamber then unless u have a lot of time after clearing 1st chamber

[bright cape]

wow. i never thought of tenacity yaoyao. it should be good right?

[rugged sparrow]

ye pretty high uptime

[bright cape]

i guess u onfield her

[rugged sparrow]

I don't strictly on-field anyone on either team

[bright cape]

her burst applies tons of dendro

[late locust]

then what i can do about that tho

[rugged sparrow]

Yaoyao only on-fields if she has ult

[rugged sparrow]

run XL instead of Xilo / Kaz

[bright cape]

i guess u would need funnelling for collei too

[rugged sparrow]

gives you more hits to get through the hitcheck

[bright cape]

are they also with 4 star weapons?

[late locust]

ok ill try that

[rugged sparrow]

standard ICD so not really "tons of dendro"

[rugged sparrow]

Fischl on Harp, Kuki on Key
but I can just give Kuki Iron Sting and actually use 5-star arti and it'll be the same (she's on 4p Instructor's now)

[sick quarry]

Does crit matters to her or is more about stacking ATK on her?

[rugged sparrow]

ofc it does, she's a DPS

[sick quarry]

I see. How about her talents?

[rugged sparrow]

EQ

[sick quarry]

So 1, 10, 10?

[opal surge]

10 8 is prolly fine tbh

but also ideally escoffier is never the one holding fav in her teams

[late locust]

cant beat chamber 2 second half with mono pyro

[rugged sparrow]

unluck

[late locust]

wait

i can just play varesa

[rugged sparrow]

yes you can

[opal surge]

tfw when youre playing arle but the shields are racist

[sick quarry]

I gave her fav for ER.

[opal surge]

I would hope so but for example in teams like furina shenhe X you'd rather have both furina and shenhe hold fav then have it on escoffier

In furina yelan it's a bit more debatable but last I checked it was better on furina still

[radiant rock]

Why is the training guide telling me to build em on kaveh?

[rugged sparrow]

... I mean what else are you building on him

[radiant rock]

Idk i just want him to be a hyperbloom driver..

[rugged sparrow]

yeh u build EM

he's not really good in HB though

you usually run him in burgeon instead

[radiant rock]

I wanna cope using him in theater with kuki

[primal latch]

Whats a good weap for escoffier if not fav?

[rugged sparrow]

anything that's good for dmg

[radiant rock]

Lmao maybe i should just get as much er as possible to get his burst always

[rugged sparrow]

you run Fav, anyway

then just build some crit rate to proc it somewhat more reliably despite him being on-field

[radiant rock]

Maybe ill just run fav + er/atk/crate.. ig deepwood would be the only set that makes sense here

[rugged sparrow]

idk why you still want to run atk and cr but u do u ig

[radiant rock]

I mean idk what to run on gob.. and crate will help with fav

Em only matters if youre planning to burst dendro cores with his abilities right?

[rugged sparrow]

it also matters if you play him on his ideal team (pure bloom or burgeon) since that's his source of healing

[radiant rock]

Oh.. hmm aight then.

Thanks

[hollow folio]

whats the new nuv best in slot?

[rugged sparrow]

like, weapon? artifact? nothing has changed since his release

[hollow folio]

team

i do a bit less damae with him with escoffier but then there is here damage

[rugged sparrow]

Escoffier is sidegrade to his best team (Xilo Cit Furina)

[bright cape]

i heard she is upgrade for c0 neuvi

[lyric cargo]

might depend on assumptions and investment level

[lyric cargo]

some enemies might prevent Kazuha from swirling hydro

[bright cape]

oh i see

[serene zephyr]

Hey, anyone here know of how to get any discounts on welkin? I used to use Google play points, but they got rid of it. Amd then I used Samsung bi weekly discounts, but they got rid of those too.

[tropic thistle]

Hoyo's getting rid of all bro's discounts 😭!!!!!!!

[midnight pond]

wait how good is escoffier with mavuika vs citlali assuming fighting spirit is not issue

[midnight pond]

razor gold store gives like 1% cash back in razor silver

[rugged sparrow]

Citlali shreds pyro res, gives TTDS, and 4p Cinder to maximum effect so

[midnight pond]

just thinking i have xilonen and swapping artifact sets is a pain

but ttds and pyro shred is p big

[rugged sparrow]

Escoff would just be there to provide cryo and nothing else

if you have her sig that's something ig but still nowhere remotely close to Citlali

[midnight pond]

is her cryo app the same

[rugged sparrow]

the same yes

[midnight pond]

damn. good to know thanks

[rugged sparrow]

1s interval, 1.5s ICD

[midnight pond]

escoffier doesn’t even provide that much better team building either if i do t want skirk

[lyric cargo]

I think I heard Citlali can easily clear an existing pyro aura but Escoffier can't

their app over time is the same, but less initial app?

[rugged sparrow]

it's cuz Citlali is a catalyst

she can do EQn1

that's 3 separate cryo instances (4 if you count the ticking E)

[lyric cargo]

doesn't skill into burst clear the pyro aura and let cryo take over?

[rugged sparrow]

not with Mavuika cuz of her E

sometimes it just randomly pops out

[lyric cargo]

I think you only NA on Citlali when there are issues. might be because of how Mavuika E's app is lined up

[rugged sparrow]

Citlali Q is also 2U but lemme check Escoff's

Escoff also 2U

[rugged sparrow]

you always NA

so you start with cryo aura

and just pray you're not slow enough to do the rot cuz otherwise Mav will overwrite

[primal latch]

Do escoffier have higher dmg than furina?

[rugged sparrow]

at similar invest ye

[bright cape]

why is vortex vanquisher lower than Tamayuratei no Ohanashi?

is there ATK threshold to reach for iansan?

[opal surge]

There is and she also needs ER

[bright cape]

oh ok

is 150% enough?

[opal surge]

that depends on many things

[bright cape]

thanks. she is c0
i guess i shouold hold off on building her

[violet cipher]

I’d like to figure out/double check what support I should use in Arle/ben/cit; I don’t have Xilonen so it’s between Rosaria/Layla/sucrose. Sucrose and Rosaria are vv and that yellow 4 star one that increases em but what does Layla use?
Lastly, what boss/game mode should I test these teams on?

[sage sail]

is there a way to break papilla shield with arle?

will arle benny mavuika fischl clear it?

[opal surge]

mavuika can solo the shield so yeah

[opal surge]

layla can use ins or totm

I usually test in abyss but results can vary depending on what enemies are in there, theres no good way to test teams in a neutral setting tbh

[sage sail]

So I should save mav burst for the papilla?

[opal surge]

its on its own isnt it you just start the chamber and pres smav burst

[violet cipher]

chamber 1 of this abyss has single target eremite on A and lava dragon on B; so I could pretty easily test the teams against single target and bosses. Would I need to test against groups to make sure which support would be better?

[late locust]

omg

im ar60 and this is the best pyro goblet ive ever gotten

bruh

wait

wrong cup

[opal surge]

That's up to you, you can also just do actual clears of all three chambers to get a feel for it

Fwiw single target performance has lately been more important than aoe, but that can change at any fime

[late locust]

its alr

[violet cipher]

k, ty

[serene zephyr]

I know it bites

[golden citrus]

I like the crit dmg haha

[zenith thicket]

surely swirling pyro with kazuha and nahida isnt the strat? doing weak damage on the first chamber help

[lyric cargo]

when you level your pyro cup and it turns into physical

[feral reef]

what the vruck does she do

[rugged sparrow]

nothing

[keen willow]

Fly cutely

[viral mulch]

benched

[feral reef]

gives me one blue pull 🔥

[thorn bay]

Exists

[lyric cargo]

Sucrose downgrade
Ifa downgrade
+1 anemo char for theater

it's strange to me how they added a standard 5-star that's worse than the previous ones

[feral reef]

ifa is a driver right?

[feral reef]

just dont add a standard atp

[viral mulch]

ifa better than wanderer fr

[rugged sparrow]

isn't he if Wanderer is c0

[feral reef]

so how do i team build ifa? just put off field dps that can swirl and let the damage happem

[viral mulch]

his best in slot team is whatever overworld team you have and you just use him to fly

[viral mulch]

think so lol

[feral reef]

ive only been getting ifas so thought maybe i get him

build him sorry

[thorn bay]

Or pair him with chasca and fly in natlan

[rugged sparrow]

he's not off-field

we literally just put Wanderer as an example

but his best team is like Furina Ororon Sayu rn

[thorn bay]

Vv with em anemo crit maybe?

[rugged sparrow]

4p Codex ADC build

[thorn bay]

Oh wait I forgot scroll

[viral mulch]

wait why sayu

[feral reef]

i meant get other off field and swirl with him

[viral mulch]

oh wait so you can still zoom while fly downtime frrr

[rugged sparrow]

healer VV

also she has like 300k DPR in that team (surprisingly)

[viral mulch]

how tf

[feral reef]

wow sayu too powerful

lilypichu power

[rugged sparrow]

ask void he got the calcs
and it's sgt too iirc?

@near prism enlighten them to the goat Sayu

[near prism]

hi hello how may i help

[feral reef]

ok i gotta make ifa sayu my next team

[rugged sparrow]

Sayu's 300k DPR in sgt right on Ifa Ororon Furina Sayu

[feral reef]

this sounds brazy
also i wanna use furina more

[near prism]

its his best team that's related to EC/Swirl as a big part of the team

sayu consolidates healing, and is the only anemo healer to have off field swirl, she also has innate EM scaling for heal so bonus points for that

vv sayu also lets ifa carry codex

[near prism]

its like 250k ish but yeah its pretty high for a SGT healer lol

[feral reef]

whats sgt

[rugged sparrow]

oh it's Ororon that's 300k isn't it

[near prism]

single target

[viral mulch]

hotwheelsing

[near prism]

yeah around there, and ifa's around 500k

[viral mulch]

sergeant

[rugged sparrow]

[feral reef]

wow sayu a sargeant

[near prism]

aLSO JERRY I GOT C2 IFA

[rugged sparrow]

nice I guess

[viral mulch]

what is c2

[rugged sparrow]

I caved in yesterday and got c0 Ifa after 20-ish pulls

[feral reef]

i got like 4 ifa in a row 🥀 its a sign vros

[near prism]

c2 is more ec/swirl buff which isnt that massive but its nice
c1 is fairly big, its more energy

but really his cons arent that insane

[viral mulch]

i got c3 ifa and like c12 million ororons

[feral reef]

is there a kqm for ifa yet

[near prism]

his c6 is probably his best con and its usually only like 600% extra MV because of a weird gimmick with how his c6 works

[viral mulch]

c6 is best cus longer fly fr

[opal surge]

A kqm guide? No it'll take a bit

[feral reef]

so close ah

[near prism]

(the more c6 procs he gets the less normal shots he gets)

[feral reef]

i like this thing with the terms

[near prism]

c6 is still always dps positive and the c6 procs trigger his heal too, so its always worth using

[viral mulch]

its a little unfortunate i didnt get c6 ifa but i only went c1 esco deep and im not building him so whatever ig

[near prism]

sadge

[feral reef]

still dk why i got this useless ah mf back in 3.3

[viral mulch]

but now even when mavuika reruns i cant advertise myself as all natlan c6 cus of ifa so rip

[near prism]

i think i might genuinely pull for tulaytullah now and it wont even be for my wanderer it'll be for ifa 🥀

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

he deserves it though

[feral reef]

vros do i build balls hypercarry or ifa sayu virst

[viral mulch]

wtf balls hypercarry

[near prism]

hypercarry is cooler, ifa sayu is less reliant on your ifa build being good

[near prism]

wait you meant kaeya hypercarry

naw fuck that ifa>>>>>>>>

[feral reef]

c2 frina putting in so much work ah

she has def been my most used unit
i should c6 her at some point

[rugged sparrow]

why can't Ifa proc Xq rainswords every shot though

[near prism]

💔 i got cooked so hard by ifa tc i feel like no one else is doing it

[rugged sparrow]

smh mid unit

[feral reef]

so mid 😔

[near prism]

he gets more procs if you spam NAs instead of hold click, but less tonicshots

its because his hold NA has a different timing to it which isn't great for xq/yelan

[viral mulch]

i think everyone just treats him as yet another driver who happens to be able to fly

[near prism]

and for good reason that shit was some of the most annoying thing ive ever done and im not done

[viral mulch]

well at lesst i do

[near prism]

my current theory for c6 is that every 5 c6 procs results in 1 less tonicshot on hold NA

[viral mulch]

dam

[feral reef]

i got everything for her... except hp weapon 😢

[near prism]

and i have some evidence to back that up
(have video of 13-4 split, 12-5 split and up to 12-8 split)

[viral mulch]

bros out of bullets

[near prism]

when you reach a breakpoint like 13-4, 13-4 is better than 12-5

so for his c6 you either wanna get super lucky or unlucky, and both will yield better dps than the statistical average

[feral reef]

can i keep ororon and sayu at 80

[near prism]

c6 ifa hyper kinda outdpses c0 wanderer

assuming wandeez has a shielder

[near prism]

ororon could ig, but sayu should be 90'd, she procs a lot of swirl here

[viral mulch]

prob 90 cus transformative reactions

[viral mulch]

good
w*nderer

[rugged sparrow]

W*nderer

[feral reef]

would they need any diff weaps than what tinyurl one says

[near prism]

also for the record there's so much misinfo around ifa rn

im like 99% sure most people dont even know what his kit does

[rugged sparrow]

should be the same

idk if Ifa is on build doc though

[near prism]

not really, just adjust for your er needs as needed

[viral mulch]

i havent rly read him much either

[feral reef]

actually speaking of
what would my er reqs be

[near prism]

on it

is your ifa c1+?

[feral reef]

c5

[rugged sparrow]

Sayu a lot
Furina a lot
Ororon not that much
Ifa can ignore ER req I believe?

[viral mulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/757563597944520784/1373138738338725958/173.mp4?ex=6829529a&is=6828011a&hm=0a61403033bec001d4fc27619e79b4b4e6a78161a8b62608bc437cb396910c5f&

i got double er skill card today smh

[rugged sparrow]

bricked

[feral reef]

hes not there 😢

[near prism]

prob just fav ororon

[rugged sparrow]

unluck

[rugged sparrow]

Ifa just 4p Codex ADC and slap any good DPS catalyst

[viral mulch]

ig the runs still good enough its just i wont do more today

[feral reef]

so many

[near prism]

oh i forgot to ask is ororon c4?

[feral reef]

ifa c5
furina c2
ororon c4
sayu c2

[rugged sparrow]

there's something fun watching Varesa just buttslams enemies to death for 1m per plunge

[feral reef]

wtf how can i achieve 1m
i need to learn

[near prism]

goated team

[rugged sparrow]

get c6

[feral reef]

ah i see

[viral mulch]

still stronk as ever

[near prism]

yeah ok the er needs are right

though...c2 sayu???

[feral reef]

what

[near prism]

just surprisedyou only have c2 sayu

[rugged sparrow]

void I have c5 Sayu after 4 years u dont get to say anything

[near prism]

also i forgot some flat energy for sayu

[rugged sparrow]

[feral reef]

i just unlucky lol

[near prism]

nvm thats her c4

the er needs are right

[feral reef]

like i usually dont spread out cons for some reason
like ifa and chev
i get 5-6 of them in a row

[near prism]

me with sucrose

[feral reef]

and rest weapons

[rugged sparrow]

Sayu can do 2 short hold E cant she

I just sneak 1 short E after Ifa

[near prism]

doesn't hurt that varesa is pog af too

[rugged sparrow]

then back to reset rot

[near prism]

ig she could technically but it makes the rot slightly longer

[rugged sparrow]

probably a bit of desync

[near prism]

which like isnt a huge deal

since the actual dps doesn't matter that much

[rugged sparrow]

pew pew

[feral reef]

what weap and set for ida

[near prism]

maybe do 1 short hold 1 press?

[rugged sparrow]

.

[feral reef]

thanks vro

[near prism]

codex, since sayu would already use vv, ADC, usual dps catalyst weap

@rugged sparrow maybe tE+ shE

[viral mulch]

shes so much better than what i initially expected

[rugged sparrow]

[feral reef]

what the vruck

[near prism]

she's really cool, i went for c0r1 too
didnt get a single iansan though which like

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[viral mulch]

damn

[rugged sparrow]

tbh when u see plunge DPS that cant abuse Xianyun Cit Bennett
everyone's initial thoughts are gonna be "she's bricked"

but nah hoyo just cranks her numbers

[near prism]

when i see a dps with no access to transformatives my initial reaction is ''where's the 10k+ mv''

[feral reef]

is overload varesa the best version of her?
ive only tried overload
but a furina team could work no?

[viral mulch]

i was also like nah electro plunge thats bricked af but well here we are

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

for varesa? it sorta depends on your investment

[rugged sparrow]

iirc Furina Xianyun Iansan at high invest is better but not by much so lol

[near prism]

geo wheelchair for short setups and high damage

[feral reef]

c2 frina
c0 xianyun
c6 chev
c0 iansan

[viral mulch]

very solid dps and one of the best solo dps for my purpose too

[rugged sparrow]

yeah just wheelchair it

[feral reef]

what the wheelchair!!

[near prism]

i do think she's a tad bit underwhelming at c0r0, but like not bad by any means

maybe im just conditioned to not using dpses without r1

[rugged sparrow]

just play Chev Iansan Xiangling atp though Iansan kinda sad

[near prism]

xilonen chiori

[feral reef]

i did so many pulls on that banner....

like 150 or so

[rugged sparrow]

I stole all ur Iansan sorry

[viral mulch]

i think its ok cus as a tradeoff her teamcost can go rly low and still be competitive

[near prism]

true

[rugged sparrow]

Mualani vibes

except Mua is to play

[near prism]

when im in a going bald competition and my opponent is a mualani player

[viral mulch]

that tries to vape through citlali

[feral reef]

i wish she was better

[rugged sparrow]

Varesa can legit run like 2 cost

and still hit LB time

2 cost from her own c0r1

[near prism]

C0R1 varesa
c6 iansan
c6 chev
pmc/bennett

done

[feral reef]

fuckin oath varesa is so good to play

sitting on opps never felt better

[opal surge]

C6 iansan being 0 cost is a scam of all time

But wcyd

[rugged sparrow]

wcyd

[viral mulch]

last abyss i hit the high cost speedrun time requirement on giu with just varesa solo it was funny

[feral reef]

top ten lies of 0 cost

[near prism]

GIU speed reqs are funny, my solo chiori can also meet them

but i think even one c6 puts you in a different bracket?

[viral mulch]

ye its still treated highcost

[feral reef]

i believe i have an idea of cost in teambuilding terms
but can someone refresh me pls
is it refering to pulling cost?

[rugged sparrow]

1 cost = 1 5-star

really just that

though some servers have modified cost system for their own intents and purposes

[feral reef]

thanks

[near prism]

its just something agreed upon by the community, there's no standard to it besides what oxd mentioned

@rugged sparrow yo my sigewinne dps team is unironically goated

[rugged sparrow]

[feral reef]

wow only 1 ifa main exists

[midnight pond]

any of these dps/units worth building to diversify my IT roster?

i have neuv, and nahida hyperbloom built. I also have an okay xiao, ganyu, and childe
Also plan to summon for mavuika and chasca

[viral mulch]

chev ororon tigh are ok to build

someome like xq and rosaria are worth investing more

[feral reef]

tigh is very fun if you like lots of little damage procs

[rugged sparrow]

anything that's below 70 I'm guessing?
what natchez said but even then I have my reservations cuz they have their niches

Chev Tigh with no electro in IT is

[midnight pond]

70 and below

[feral reef]

true

[midnight pond]

the 70s other than xq are not really built

[viral mulch]

they at least count for headcount so

[midnight pond]

gg, feel like IT is just pure self sufficient dps

which at least chasca and mav are ig

[feral reef]

cooking

[midnight pond]

maybe IT just will be easier in the future

[rugged sparrow]

it's already easy enough

[viral mulch]

usually the chars who get their value increased by it is those that theyre not hardlocked on a specific element reaction and also those that have a better option to use if it wasnt theater

[midnight pond]

i fear my roster is just ass

quit 2.0 and came back for 5.3ish

[viral mulch]

dam

[feral reef]

widsith is fine on ifa surely right

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[viral mulch]

every japanese solo yt suddenly started posting neuv arle solo like they united together

[feral reef]

...

[viral mulch]

except ange hes neuv mavu cus yes

[lyric cargo]

I guess you could call him that
he's an on-field "swirl reaction dps"
but it's not like swirls have enough damage to be good on their own, you'd have to rely on good off-field dps

[near prism]

@rugged sparrow justdid a
sige xilo furi kaz top half
alhaitham benny fischl nahida bottom half

clear

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

ifa is an ADC dps more often than not, his swirl and ec buffs arent reliant on his EM

[near prism]

top team is 5 cost
bottom team is 4 cost

[rugged sparrow]

0 cost jumpscare

[near prism]

didn't need anyresets either

[near prism]

nice!

i mostly wanted to sigeWin over the abyss

[near prism]

also whycollei over c4+ kirara?

[viral mulch]

live bennett q e n3 e n3 e reaction

[rugged sparrow]

took me hours on first try on chamber 2
then I swapped Kuki to Gilded + Xiphos and it clears faster

[rugged sparrow]

do I look like I have c4 Kirara

[near prism]

real....

[near prism]

[feral reef]

wow so mean

[rugged sparrow]

smh toxic

[near prism]

bennett nahida fischl is a goated shieldbreak team for bottom half ngl

[rugged sparrow]

im taking your internet privilege

[near prism]

alhaitham isnt bad either, he got a lot of hitcount

[viral mulch]

time to pull emilies

[near prism]

???

super high hitcount, 2U per E for benny, burn??

[rugged sparrow]

no

[near prism]

its really good for shieldbreak, stop being an ass

[feral reef]

😔

[rugged sparrow]

no

[viral mulch]

tbh alh or hyperbloom as a whole was pretty much a papilla counter
its just lava exists now

chasca also got fucked have to run pyro pyro electro

[feral reef]

ooh

[near prism]

nice

[rugged sparrow]

did u see dhcswp doing lava dragon clear with Chasca VV

[viral mulch]

yes

[near prism]

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

dps vv set going long ways

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca VV and Mav just melts Lava for 80% of its hp

thanks vv c2 cit c3 xilo

[feral reef]

are artis fine on this
(gonna level him today and tmrw

[rugged sparrow]

+95

[violet cipher]

Arle/Ben/citlali/sucrose; what’s the rotation for getting rid of the void shield?

[viral mulch]

125% res shred moment

[rugged sparrow]

there's no rotation u just smack it

[near prism]

bennett just keeps winning

it's not fair 😭

[rugged sparrow]

dump everything u have

[viral mulch]

citlali eq and spam sucrose and pray

[near prism]

i genuinely dont think i have a team for lava dragon without bennett

i can likely brute-force it with chiori

[viral mulch]

bros gonna be top even in celestia abyss

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

i like benny but sometimes im wondering if they designed him this way with everything they're doing now in mind

like you can't fuckin tell me his 2U on Q and E are a coincidence with the lava dragon boss now

[rugged sparrow]

ofc not

Benny is a happy little accident

[feral reef]

bennett should have been the archon

[viral mulch]

hes defo a mistake and is affecting their later actions

[violet cipher]

Didn’t work, I just I-framed it and 3-starred anyway

[rugged sparrow]

based

[near prism]

btw do you know if chiori EE counts as valid movement for iansan?

i'd test myself but uh..

[feral reef]

smh just get luckier

[near prism]

real

[viral mulch]

i mean its an ability that moves so it would count right

[near prism]

i'd imagine so yeah

[rugged sparrow]

I mean void, Mav Q initial cast (Where she soars above ground) counts for Iansan

[near prism]

the thing is chiori just blinks out and back in

[rugged sparrow]

Iansan instantly caps her NSP and more

[near prism]

so im wondering if the game just like makes her invisible for a second while she's dashing forward or if itjust, changes her position

[viral mulch]

i dont think the swap part matters

[near prism]

nono, im talking about her first E

cuz she like becomes invisible for the dash itself

[viral mulch]

i mean its just visual effect id assume so

[near prism]

mid-dash, no cheeoree

[rugged sparrow]

tomato

[viral mulch]

like arle ca also visually teleports

but its still a dash movement technically

[near prism]

i'd hope so, imagine for chiori specificallythey made it so her E just actually tp's her

not that chiori+iansan is that usual of a team

[viral mulch]

why she eating da warp warp fruit

[viral mulch]

hey i use it

[near prism]

holy cr*p chiori is van augur from one piece??

[rugged sparrow]

cuz of Varesa

[near prism]

i mean, fair

its just really funny how short the setup for 2 geo is lol

like even if it doesnt result in thehighest possible damage for the team, the setup is actually so short

[viral mulch]

also its not even genshin now but i got the thought so
can u even be classified as speedster if your ability is just tp

[near prism]

minato on fraudwatch

[viral mulch]

i do like how it ignores the swap cd like thats actually a big part why i use geo wheelchair

[near prism]

i actually don't even know why that exists

im happy it does but like, why

[feral reef]

i love blackbeard pirates

also why are you censoring carp

i love fish

[near prism]

real

[near prism]

btw did you farm lno for varesa or?

im using codex cuz i wanted a codex dps

no reason besides that

rn kinda regretting it cuz she's not top 1% yet but its too lateto back out

[viral mulch]

ye im stuck in that domain rn

[near prism]

fair enough

[viral mulch]

my varesa build is okay but i would like the last bit of cr to make it 100 practically
also i dont have a good set for the other artifact so im stuck here for a while

which is a problem cus i do need to farm codex more as well

[near prism]

i need to get off my ass and farm for her talents 😭

[near prism]

i would also like a new flower and maybe gob, but im just a lazy dumbass and keep postponing talents

[viral mulch]

me going to artifact domain despite its the talent day because u never know (i got nothing)

[near prism]

holy shit same

[viral mulch]

ig can just 9 burst as well then slack more

also goddam i need a circlet like that

[near prism]

leave E at level 1, optimize the resources so you can farm as few talents as possible

[viral mulch]

fr

[near prism]

yeah that circlet went insanely well

i had one with more cv but it was making me overcap so i gave it to lyney

[quaint fern]

wait is my acc acutally bricked vs second half of abyss this time

[near prism]

you need pyro+ a lot of hitcount

the natural answer is burn

[quaint fern]

burn + what?

no emilie or kinich

[near prism]

alhaitham? i used quickburn and it went pretty well

[quaint fern]

should I try burning tighnari?

[near prism]

that also works

[quaint fern]

that'll be funny LOL

[rugged sparrow]

[tame walrus]

You could do the pokemon strat too

[near prism]

for shieldbreak phases just do like benny on field

[near prism]

you hating on actually good teams jerry 😔

[viral mulch]

atp im counting my days to go back to codex domain and just give up on the finale set

i know its eventually gonna happen

[near prism]

@viral mulch also my c0r1 sige can now hit 53k ticks, we have breached 300k dpr sigewinne

[quaint fern]

I'll try brute forcing it one last time with ganyu and if not then try burning nari

[near prism]

granted its better than it sounds since her AoE is huge, but still

[tame walrus]

"Calm down, it's just a prick." gets obliterated by a heart shaped bubble

[viral mulch]

[near prism]

as always talents are the bane of my existence

although her E is just healing so its finege ig

[quaint fern]

SURELY THIS WORKS

[viral mulch]

eh good enough

[rugged sparrow]

treez when he cant use cryo this abyss:

[near prism]

i have bad news gang, hitting the lava dragon with cryo before filling the bar twice resets it

[tame walrus]

Just don't cryo/hydro the dragon xD

[quaint fern]

d:

[near prism]

lowkey searching for a gob replacement, the EM hurts

[quaint fern]

D;

[viral mulch]

3 man team until ganyu appears

[rugged sparrow]

atp what's stopping you from burnmelt with Nahida

[near prism]

tbf, with a c6 ganyu you can prob afford not using her until stun phase

like she'll still kill it unless your first half takes like a year, which it shouldn't

[viral mulch]

pog strat of letting it die enough just by self dmg from gimmick then finish off

[near prism]

my fucking sigewinne dps team did 12-1-1 in 40s

[quaint fern]

okay wait I forgot that I shouldn't ganyu burst

[rugged sparrow]

.

[tame walrus]

Whut madness is that?

[viral mulch]

12-1-1 mostly depends on the fatui splitting or not which ig can be reset for

[near prism]

kazooha diff

[tame walrus]

splitting? They teleport on top me and stay frozen mid-air...

[viral mulch]

its decently managable without cc so isok

[near prism]

yeh

[viral mulch]

unless it rngs like one immediately attacks and one just chills then youre cooked

[rugged sparrow]

somewhat related, friend told me to do 4-star only with Noelle team
the wind operatives kept getting thrown away from Noelle's strings so I just ragequit

[viral mulch]

lmao

[rugged sparrow]

I cant group them

[quaint fern]

oh wait I see that's not too bad'

[rugged sparrow]

at all

[quaint fern]

just stun it and then dps it down

[viral mulch]

theyre kinda weird like they normally gets flinged off like wanderer ahh but when theyre doing any attack they get interrupt immune

[rugged sparrow]

yea

[near prism]

my furina pets just comoboed the fatui so hard they were in the air for the entirety of my sige Q

incredible

[rugged sparrow]

and they take fall dmg

[quaint fern]

12-1-1 is so free

[rugged sparrow]

actually now that I think about it what's stopping me from running burnmelt Wrio 2nd half

[near prism]

wanderer with arle's c1

[viral mulch]

world would have been a better place

[quaint fern]

wtf I just say my ayaka hit 69k burst ticks

CRAZY

[near prism]

real...

wait holy crap @rugged sparrow 55k sige ticks

big damage...

[quaint fern]

wait 1st half this abyss is so squishy

[tropic thistle]

2nd half is where its at !!!!!!!

[viral mulch]

recent abyss trend be like

1st half
coughing baby

2nd half
hydrogen bomb

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

@viral mulch dude I'm like, so tempted to save for c6 sigewinne

[opal surge]

PMA grew by 600k since 5.4

[viral mulch]

💀

i cant recommend that thats for sure

[near prism]

Her c4 is a fucking 133% personal dps increase it's nuts 😭

[viral mulch]

altho personally energy burst reliant dps all get the minus points on my rating

[near prism]

Yah I get that

[near prism]

I do like her kit a lot, one of my favourite kits in genshin rn

And all of her cons are good

[viral mulch]

and hey its fine when i fr run freeze childe now cus esco made me play him again

[near prism]

Xiangling is no more

[viral mulch]

i find childe fun but its just xiangling isnt fun

[near prism]

Real

[rugged sparrow]

u mean c6 Childe

[viral mulch]

eh i just like double dagger

[rugged sparrow]

weeb

[viral mulch]

nah nah we doing the okiro on shadows fr

gonna fight the funny ant man

[quaint fern]

okay now time to redo abyss but actually bring nahida so I can kill papilla D:

[rugged sparrow]

.

cough

[viral mulch]

what if emilie reruns really fuckin close and this is just part of setting up for making ppl pull her

[rugged sparrow]

it's just weird why they're not re-running Emilie with Kinich

and instead we get Raiden

[quaint fern]

I didnt' know how the boss mechanic worked

[lyric cargo]

hmm, but can that compete with other options?
I guess it's a 50k dps team either way

[quaint fern]

I thought that rage bar stayed during stunned or sm shit

[near prism]

get them to pull kinich now, rerun emilie later

[quaint fern]

i never fought this boss before

[near prism]

its a 70k dps team or higher dude

[viral mulch]

i think ill just c0r1 emilie
i dont need her but more weird team options

[rugged sparrow]

watch till we get Emilie shill event and u'll cave in to c6r5

then again u have Kinich

[viral mulch]

that aint even possible

remember the lava stage in 9999 event had better times with mavu premium than kinich

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

i was gonna go like c1r1 initially cus its a good cons but then i found out c0 and c1 both does not enough dmg so i felt nah imma save that 1 5 star worth of pulls

[near prism]

@viral mulch difference between c3 sige and c4 for personal dps

[viral mulch]

lmao

[near prism]

its actually only like 116% but still

[viral mulch]

tbf she deserves it cus her base isnt rly good

[near prism]

it goes from 6 Q ticks to fucking 14

[near prism]

yeah for sure, although it feels better than the sheet numbers would lead you to believe

she makes my fav c0 furi do like 800k dpr too

[near prism]

jesus fucking christ c5 is another 140k dpr

[violet cipher]

what should I use here?

[viral mulch]

having longer dps window does serve better with practical yea

i remember all those times arguing with not so smart ppl that constellations increase shouldnt be treated as face value

[near prism]

it's really weird cuz like, cons should be treated but what they do but also by how they feel

[near prism]

naw its over c6 is a 50% dps increase over c5 for her

[feral reef]

holy cryo

[near prism]

c6r1 sige has like almost 5x the dpr of c0r1

[feral reef]

my cryo

[near prism]

granted, longer fieldtime, but the rot time itself doesnt change since you already have quite a bit of deadtime

[viral mulch]

a lot of ppl just look at sheet increase % and thinks thats exactly how much valuable it is which

[near prism]

[near prism]

c1 chiori 0 dps increase for construct teams therefore trash...real...

[viral mulch]

fr...

[feral reef]

wait hes cooking...

[near prism]

i dont think i could go back to 12m range tamoto

[viral mulch]

or 16s cd tamoto

[near prism]

shivers

[feral reef]

i tought u said tomato 🇰🇪

[near prism]

speaking of chiori's c6

it feels very nice to have like a 300k dpr on demand every 4s

[viral mulch]

kenya flag emoji

[feral reef]

means laughing
trust it wasnt an accident

[viral mulch]

its also nice to have access to dash ability that frequently

[near prism]

for sure

[feral reef]

i really hope i can get 45 pulls in 10 days for kof 😔

[viral mulch]

king of fighters

[near prism]

what is this 😭

[feral reef]

she is my king

[lyric cargo]

huh.

[near prism]

hypercarry ifa at KQMS, c6r1, would even out at around 70k ish

the taser team is also around there, but obviously less ifa personal dps

[lyric cargo]

what are his top teams, then? something with Furina? Ororon? Faruzan?

[near prism]

from what i calc'd his best teams are
ifa furina faruzan and either c4 jean/benny/iansan
and
ifa furina ororon sayu

you can also replace sayu with c4jean for higher ifa dps but less swirls

[lyric cargo]

hmm. I have c2 Ifa, c5 Ororon

if it was c5 and c5, maybe I'd try to c6 them and risk c1 Esco 😅

I do have this goblet and sands

[near prism]

if it makes you feel better, ifa's cons arent that important

for hypercarry going from c0 to c6 is like a 30-35% personal dps increase

its mostly about QoL

[feral reef]

my varesa does more damage than mavuika 😔 i need to build mav better

[primal latch]

Just a random question how do u guys think a nahifa burn team will do in abyss rn? Like nahida bennet xiangling sucrose or something

[cedar flint]

burn without Emilie 😔

[primal latch]

Dont have her hehe i lost 50/50 kinich so i didnt bother with her

[clever loom]

i am having too many attempts error on my log in.. i havent played in months but i cant access the game or account online. Is this an isolated issue?

[tardy jetty]

Likely yes

You might have some mistake with your password or email input

[clever loom]

ive changed it and retyped it Zzz 😢

[steady shuttle]

Is Ayaka back in meta?

[jolly spire]

Is this worth building?

Bennet is C6, Sara is also, Chevreuse is C1

mind you I have these:

[opal surge]

Her theoretical ceiling is closer to newer units now yeah, but she still has a plethora of issues in practice

[jolly junco]

a raiden team isnt worth building in 2025 unless you just like her

[opal surge]

Hitting all burst ticks on timing makes her top tier, but it's unlikely that you can burst on rotation cd and still hit all ticks, often you either miss some or delay burst by a few seconds to wait for a good window

[jolly junco]

unless that's a c3 raiden

[jolly spire]

wow that's hurtful for all the right reasons.

I hate that mechanical bosss, I HATE THAT GAMES LIKE GENSHIN DON'T hava a lock on enemy function oi;vfsolkj'edrafgbn.xczbNJLKM?< xvcbnjk n fvdczx

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

[jolly spire]

I got locked into a place, because I tried to change the target I was attacking but raiden got stuck, so she didn't move, and I couldn't attack the right target even though it was besides the one I wanted to attack

Yeah this game is better left in the past. Thank you for reminding me genshin.

[jolly junco]

weird reason to quit but ok

[rugged sparrow]

ure weird

[jolly junco]

pot kettle black

[rugged sparrow]

anyone is alive somewhere in the world

[opal surge]

No

[near prism]

in all honesty its one of their better teams

[jolly junco]

it's not

they have mavuika, yae

an aggravate team with yae and fischl and a mavuika team would be better

[near prism]

you do need 2 teams

[near prism]

maybe no fischl?

altho could prob go sethos yae agg

[jolly spire]

Isn't this considered a spoiler?

[jolly junco]

it's a possibility but unlikely given how many limited 5*s they have

[near prism]

true

[jolly junco]

do you have fischl?

[jolly spire]

I just wanted to show you this

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

I don't think they care they're trying to get some attention

[jolly spire]

And this is obcenity... and insult. 😛

[rugged sparrow]

rip bozo

[near prism]

well that's not very nice innit

oh they got erased

[rugged sparrow]

dont speak ill of the dead void

[near prism]

can i talk shit about the banned instead?

[rugged sparrow]

talk shit abt george instead

I endorse it

[jolly junco]

I just want them to confirm they have fischl so I can say take the L to void

[near prism]

why would i slander george

[rugged sparrow]

he's bri*ish

[near prism]

nevermind, he has given me enough reason

[jolly junco]

[near prism]

[rugged sparrow]

why is it dubbed as KaeyaStare and not balls

[near prism]

gotta keep up appearances of being a serious server i assume

[rugged sparrow]

[jolly junco]

that's why we have serious people like jerry to act as a role model helper here

[rugged sparrow]

if im srs the world is ending already

[near prism]

george i feel like i'm 🤏 this close to saving for c6 sigewinne

[jolly junco]

I would be impressed if you do

[near prism]

what the fuck

i saved for c6 chiori before

[jolly junco]

yes but you care more about chiori

[opal surge]

What the

[near prism]

true

[jolly junco]

or at least you did

[opal surge]

The balls emote is legal but the diluc one isnt

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

chiori is still my favourite character in the game she hasnt left my party since 4.5

[rugged sparrow]

not minmaxing friendship exp

[near prism]

i imagine its because the kaeya emote has a different name here, and the diluc one would be uh.... you know

[jolly junco]

might be because of the sever it's from

ah right I remember now

[rugged sparrow]

just rename it DilucStare

[sick quarry]

does anyone need to buy shit from the traveling merchant?

[jolly junco]

yes it makes sense why it isn't allowed

[rugged sparrow]

peak Ifa team

[near prism]

anyways @jolly junco id want sigewinne cons a lot i dont like her nearly as much as chiori, but i do like sigewinne's kit a lot

also c6r1 sigewinne does 5x the damage of c0r1 sigewinne and has 125% the buff value, and has hydro res shred, and more heal

[sick quarry]

sigewinne and klee are actually good dps trust

people say they are bad so they can fool us

[opal surge]

Yes @rugged sparrow why are you gatekeeping klee

[rugged sparrow]

oh I'm not gatekeeping

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/klee-genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-characters-megumin-gif-26207393

[rugged sparrow]

by all means, if you're a masochist

playing Klee is pure, unfiltered agony

[near prism]

not if you use a certain pair of geo characters...one of which can perhaps...offer a shield....

[rugged sparrow]

no

[sick quarry]

klee melt trust

how do i use these?

[opal surge]

Teapot

[sick quarry]

im in teapot

[opal surge]

Make a music player and put em in

I don't recall what the thing is actually called

[sick quarry]

are they really that useless

[sand crater]

Could someone help me build a team with the characters i have (or 2 teams for Abyss)

[rugged sparrow]

post your characters, then

[rugged sparrow]

is this specifically for f12

[sand crater]

no just in generall i'm on floor 6 xD

[rugged sparrow]

also put your Arle on either Deathmatch or Symphonist of Scent instead of r2 White Tassel

[sand crater]

ok

[jolly junco]

sympthonist of scent

[sand crater]

yeah i just pulled that so its still lvl 1

also Navia is c6

[opal surge]

Navia fischl xilonen Bennet Arle chev iansan ororon

[rugged sparrow]

..

[opal surge]

Can swap iansan and bennett

Give navia iansan since she's C6 anyway so arle can have the more comfy team me thinks

[rugged sparrow]

if u swap Iansan out Ororon is useless no

cuz no nightsoul dmg

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

PMC angle hmmge

[sand crater]

i dont know if it matters but Ororon, Faruzan, Yanfei, Ifa, Layla are also c6

[rugged sparrow]

they matter somewhat just you don't have actual good team to run them yet

[jolly junco]

do you need a shield for arlecchino

[sand crater]

ok

[sand crater]

maybe, i dont rly know xD

[bright cape]

is nahida, xingqiu, yelan, kuki team better than
alhaitham, nahida, xingqiu/yelan, kuki?

[rugged sparrow]

probably worse but I doubt it's by a lot

[bright cape]

oh ok. someone told me the dps is higher and alhaitham is very meh character

[rugged sparrow]

they're not wrong on haitham being a meh char

at the end of the day they'll probably perform relatively the same

spare for some elemental checks

[slim cradle]

Is escoffier better as support or sub dps?

[rugged sparrow]

her "supporting" capabilities do not scale of anything so you just build her for dmg anyway

[late locust]

is there a way to build a team around this?

[rugged sparrow]

Ifa Ororon +2 ig but

[late locust]

i can get XL and collei

[late locust]

i just created this account

[late locust]

so ifa ororon and who?

[rugged sparrow]

doesn't really matter

[late locust]

ok

[gleaming timber]

Are chronicled wishes permanent? As in if I spend some primogems now on navia and the chronicled wishes come will they stay forever so I can just keep wishing on yoimiya

[forest venture]

chronicled wishes are not permanent, but chronicled pity is permanent and separate from event wishes

[gleaming timber]

So basically it’s just a separate character banner

[forest venture]

yes

[valid anchor]

yes, a way to explain it.

[gleaming timber]

I’m cooked I spent all my gems

[valid anchor]

the boost is for either the flagged characters/weapons and 4-star characters native to that region.

[valid anchor]

probably we'll see more chronicled banners in the future. As long the characters' pool expand, more stuff can happen down the road.

[valid anchor]

classic. The stuff in chronicled banner can be weird sometimes, so, spend wisely.

Inazuma chronicled banner is quite decent. Not much character-based, more like weapon-based. Inazuman characters were good on its time. Kazuha is almost a staple in most teams going for abyss.

Ayaya is getting a somewhat good popularity raise nowadays, Chiori is usually Navia's best partner.
Ayato can pack a hit. Same for Itto.

Yae-guuji, well, she's on her own league.

[opal surge]

Chiori isn't navias best partner

[valid anchor]

at least for me, she is.

[opal surge]

In general unless you just like any of the Inazuma character you should avoid pulling I'm it's chronicled banner

[valid anchor]

But I need to tweak her artifact a bit.

[valid anchor]

probably most people will go for weapons instead. and losing the 50/50 (to get fate point) with a character they don't want

[bright cape]

i think at c1 she becomes

[lyric cargo]

you get a couple primos from it, but it's via achievements and caps eventually

the ones you get from building chars their favourite furniture sets are less limited

[cedar flint]

I assume xilo brings more to the table

speaking as a c2 chiori haver

[bright cape]

i am basing on his video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRcaDNC8ZQU

for suboptimal player like me, i think xilonen would be better too

[cedar flint]

and it’s probably would be better to Invest in xilo cons for navia than pulling chiori con to make her useable ngl

since c2 xilo is a massive buff for geo dps

and ig xilo also enable furina by herself

[bright cape]

that's true

also using furina is nice. no longer have to farm her domain

except for imaginarium theatre i guess

[neon wave]

xilo is better overall, but chiori is very much usable at c0 too

[bright cape]

what kind of team is number 5?

hyperbloomburgeon

[rugged sparrow]

"if it works it works"

[radiant rock]

Nahida burst maxxing team

[hollow folio]

whats hutao best inslot team rn?

[rugged sparrow]

likely just Furina Yelan +1

[fringe bear]

hu tao, elan, furina, bennett

[hollow folio]

bennet?

[rugged sparrow]

pyro reso + heal for Fanfare + atk buff for Tao, though Cit / anemo units should perform relatively the same/close

[fringe bear]

if you wanna double pyro than yeah, but you can use others as well

[primal latch]

If im gonna crown mavuika, which talent? Skill burst or both?

[rugged sparrow]

both but if only one then burst

[primal latch]

Thanks

[hollow folio]

wait ayaka acc does damage with escoffier

[rugged sparrow]

moreso that Escoff has actual personal dmg without compromising (de)buffs

[hollow folio]

yea 20k per and she is NOT well build

well level 90 and skill 10 but artis are trash

[lyric cargo]

I heard Xilo is especially good because she can use her skill twice a rotation
giving a ton of particles and lowering Navia's ER req

and if you're not doing 2 Xilo E a rotation, she's not that much better than other options

[haughty lotus]

Furina yelan Xilonen

[bright cape]

does raiden's E not trigger for void shields?

i was trying her on 2nd half and feels like the shields are going very slowly

[hazy lotus]

raidens e notoriously does not proc on shields

[bright cape]

ah that sucks. i guess fischl's back on the menu

[viral mulch]

let cn cook

[bright cape]

these numbers don't add upto 100%

is hoyo hiding marechausee set for navia?

[viral mulch]

no ppl just dont use it enough

[bright cape]

that sucks.

[viral mulch]

casuals gon go farm a 160cv nighttime and think thats better than mh

[bright cape]

still those numbers barely make it to 81%

i guess many will have it unequipped

[small pond]

i need help for ganyu teams i think ima give her wanderers troupe 😭

[bright cape]

i think that's good on her

[small pond]

okok, these r my characters

[bright cape]

@quaint fern

help ganyu team

[small pond]

every comp i search for her js has chars like zhongli kokomi and chars i dont have ☹️

[bright cape]

i would have gone with escoffier, furina and shenhe.

[small pond]

i dont have any of themmm 😭😭

shud i be using her for melt or freeze or wut

[viral mulch]

bench

[bright cape]

i don't have ganyu myself

[small pond]

i could bench her i didnt even want her 🥲

[bright cape]

then u can do that

[small pond]

but shes cute

☹️

[bright cape]

may be go xiangling, bennett, layla

melt dps

u can use wanderer's troupe

should be good enough for overworld

[viral mulch]

xiangling in overworld

[bright cape]

i guess going kazuha would be better

don't listen to me. i played crescent pike xl for 2 months

xl burst was for heavy situation only

[viral mulch]

i am unable to can

[small pond]

ok thank yu :))

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Hi

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somone wanted ganyu teamhelp

#📌gimshim-help message

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Burnmelt?

[cedar flint]

nahida bennet pyro mc ganyu

can use dehya as well or mavuika or xianling depending on what you got

[quaint fern]

Yeah but no IR will make them hate themselves

Id probably recommend dehya

Instead of pmc

[cedar flint]

true not everyone got c6

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oh i forgot nahida

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1338920719589048320/888612380634927176-96.gif

[cedar flint]

you don’t really play burnmelt without nahida

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how does xiangling, bennett, layla do?

[quaint fern]

Oh like Layla Ben XL will probably work but I suspect lower dmg

Layla doesn't really do much

[bright cape]

that was my recommendation

[cedar flint]

well that would be regular melt

[quaint fern]

Yeah

[cedar flint]

LAN yan would be more beneficial

[quaint fern]

It works

You can't refresh lanyan tho

[bright cape]

i think it was for overworld

[quaint fern]

Her shields c2 won't refresh so idk about her

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i don't think he is using that for abyss

[cedar flint]

besides the shield is still decent without c2 passive

and you technically can do 1 normal attack with ganyu into a charge attack

if you really need more shield

you can swirl cryo with her as well which is nice or give her ttds or citlali signature

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if she has fav instead, are there any changes to this character's set that I need to do for a Clorinde/Chev/Ian/Xiangling team?

[bright cape]

may be slightly more crit rate

otherwise it's fine

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Okay, does Citlali care about crit ratio?

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i don't think so

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Do I pull escoffier if I have Ayaka and Shenhe?

[bright cape]

fischl worked a lot better.

it's nice doing aybss without neuvi and mavuika

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Arle/Ben/Cit/Sucrose
Should I work on a crt/er/cryo Citlali for more damage? It's more damage but Arle's rotation (I believe) is n3 or n2 dodge so there's a lot of dodges anyway so maybe she's fine in terms of defense utility?

[sick quarry]

I need some advice here. Can this team works? If so, what is the rotation here? I'm building Ganyu for the first time. So, I was wondering what kind of team this will be? Is it mono cyro dps or freeze team?

I do have Ayaka too.

She is already built for another team.

[thorn bay]

Is finale of the deep good

With fragment of harmonic whimsy

[quaint fern]

Better use ayaka here or swap xingqiu for a third cryo

You don't trigger rain swords with ganyu

[sick quarry]

Understood

[sick quarry]

Which third cyro character can work instead of xingqiu?

The team I'm using for Ayaka is Kazuha, Diona, and Mona.

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🪿 🔛 ❌ 🪢

[quaint fern]

Realistically anyone works. Id probably pick between Rosario or Layla depending on if you want any more comfort or not

[feral reef]

duck on cross rope

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/roleism-roleist-geto-purple-role-gif-17179129728472666232

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https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[feral reef]

wow neon nuts

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❓

[lyric cargo]

I managed to forget again the other day and tried to break this guy's geo shield from a distance with overload
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Eroding_Avatar_of_Lava#Local_Legend-Exclusive

had to resort to Fischl instead

[placid sparrow]

Is Escoffier any good?

[lyric cargo]

she's quite good, but limited to one team archetype

currently that archetype has kinda weak carries (they all came out before Natlan powercreep)

Esco lifts them up to compete with chars like Arlecchino

I expect once we get modern day cryo carries, they'll be quite strong with her

if your account is otherwise well built, cryo might be the last element to cover
(for theater / etc, but also abyss enemies with special mechanics only weak to cryo)

[cedar flint]

or you can just put any dps in a yelan furina eaco team and get 60-70k dps

[lyric cargo]

if your account is otherwise well built, cryo might be the last element to cover
you got Mavuika, Citlali, Neuvilette, Furina, Xilonen?

those are the only chars I'd definitely get before Escoffier (they're good chars that are actually versatile and give you multiple teams)

[rugged sparrow]

before Escoffier they need a cryo DPS

not Mav Cit Xilo

they're good but unrelated

[lyric cargo]

can get one after I guess?

I'm running Esco as an occasional Neuvilette team sidegrade

[lyric cargo]

what I mean is

chars are good pulls when they increase your team options

a narrow char like Escoffier, that only works in one archetype, isn't the best for a new account. versatile chars are.

but an account that has its bases covered can think about getting her

[cedar flint]

especially if you can wheelchair but not everyone has the set up

[bright cape]

what do these percentage mean?

[cedar flint]

and well some actually want the main source of dmg to be their dps and not a wheelchair

[lyric cargo]

(the one char that's related would be Furina, I'd say she's mandatory to get Escoffier's full potential)

[rugged sparrow]

"spiral abyss usage statistics"

out of all people who have Furina, 88.9% use them on this abyss

[cedar flint]

furina stocks never down

🔥

[bright cape]

thanks.

[rugged sparrow]

sure does but it's unrelated to what they ask

"is Escoffier any good"

lists of other chars that are good too and not answering the question

[lyric cargo]

funny enough, Citlali replaced her on a bunch of pyro carry teams

but her stonks went up
"finally I have team options on the other side that don't want her"

[cedar flint]

well melt is more appealing over vaping so make sense

[lyric cargo]

if they're asking in general, my answer is going to be about pull value

those chars are the only ones that definitely have higher pull value imo

[rugged sparrow]

Escoff is also high pull value if they happen to play cryo carries

literally the only unit that brought its niche back from the dead

[lyric cargo]

but they're asking in general, so I'm not answering in that specific context

I guess I could've lead with that

[cedar flint]

i bet esco to skirk will be the same as citlali for mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

I mean you could've added "Escoff is good under specific niches"

[lyric cargo]

I did lead with

she's quite good, but limited to one team archetype

[rugged sparrow]

I mean
if cryo DPS = Escoff good

[cedar flint]

true

[rugged sparrow]

don't see how Skirk would be any different to other cryo carries other than possibly bloated MV

they all utilize Escoff the same way

[cedar flint]

it can turn the 70k dps into 100k+ depending on how good skirk is

unrelated to your message btw

[rugged sparrow]

[cedar flint]

but depends on skirk kit ig so gotta wait and see

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

unless Skirk has a clause that's like

"if a party member deals elemental skill cryo dmg, do X. can be triggered every 1s"

she'd be the same as any other existing cryo carries

would be hilarious though if that's the case

[placid sparrow]

I have Ayaka and her freeze team without Shenhe. I'm guaranteed with 60 pity. And I'm confused on what to pull. Thinking of pulling for Skirk.

[rugged sparrow]

if you want to upgrade your Ayaka team definitely pull for Escoff

we're yet to see what Skirk does but just deriving off her set (assumingly Deep Galleries), she's another cryo carry

[lyric cargo]

new chars often have a signature support coming out close to them

think Mavuika without Citlali. Neuvilette without Furina.
their next best teams are quite a bit worse

Esco will revive Ayaka.
I'm not sure how good Skirk will be without Esco, as she's not out yet of course.
but there's reason to believe the difference will be large (given what Esco does for other cryo carries)

[rugged sparrow]

ye last part especially

if u wanna play cryo carries just... pull for Escoff

idk how they just consolidate high DPR + heal + res shred into one

[bright cape]

oxd, is there a way to fight new world boss without escoffier?

[cedar flint]

tbf freeze needed either that or a rework

[rugged sparrow]

pretty much

[cedar flint]

watch them also rerun shenhe next patch

[rugged sparrow]

idk I just killed it without ever learning its mechanic

pretty sure natchez tested and you just need to slap cryo on it

and the gauge isn't that high unlike lava dragon

[cedar flint]

world boss like the mats for esco?

you need to either use cryo or nightsoul

but the world boss generally dies before he even gets to that phase if you have a semi competent team

[bright cape]

yah. i also killed him before that phase

[cedar flint]

my varesa kills it with 3 mini bursts aka one rotation

[bright cape]

but for achievment, i used triple cryo diona, rosaria and kaeya

i am just worried if he shows up in abyss

[rugged sparrow]

there's an achievement?

[bright cape]

i think so

[rugged sparrow]

wheres rei

[bright cape]

i am collecting every primos for citlali

[rugged sparrow]

wtf is his tag

oh her

[bright cape]

is rei completionist?

[rugged sparrow]

she's a nerd for cheevos yes

[bright cape]

i also got all achievement

it took almost 2 years

[viral mulch]

ohoho

so you see @bright cape

[bright cape]

it's this one.

[viral mulch]

once it does the gimmick it gets 32pt of progress and also gains 2pt every second

your goal is to keep it below 10pt where it gets low res and stops the spinning laser
each cryo hit decreases it by 4pt and elemental app doesnt matter

[bright cape]

oh that's nice to hear

then my charlotte should be able to do it

[neon wave]

how and why did I get a ping from here

[bright cape]

it was my ghost ping

[viral mulch]

idk someone asked if you sweat achievements

or something like that

[neon wave]

o

yeah, I'm not caught up though

[bright cape]

then i might be more sweatier

[neon wave]

I'm missing newer local legends mostly

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it's just being f2p