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without any silly mav bat
why of course
also pmc and bennet are both better too
I should build scroll XL
or even ororon
skill issue
when Cinder is in strongbox I swear I'll build Ororon
i have a deeprooted personal disdain for ororon
iansan is better in this team yeah but I have no iansan cons nor iansan built really
No, I just dont like ororon I think his fashion sense irks me and I dont like the trope of mentally stuck adult
ifykwim
do u also hate Itto 
itto doesnât look like he robbed a hot topic at least
no itto is just stupid thats fine
REAL
ororon is also stupid though?
yeah but hes also just genuinely not mentally developed
he personifies vegetables to refer to human interations
what do I run
hyperbloom
Wrio hyperbloom or 
either works
actually wonder if I can run both HB
yeh I think that's a good idea
what dendro do I even fucking run for Wrio
baizhu
ok lesgo
10/10 teams easy 9*
EM first card 
but where is raiden instead of kuki
sir go study
I hate these things @jolly junco
it is actually possible to dodge all their attacks if you know the attack patterns well enough
do I look like someone that can memorize more than two things at once
No
guys, would aloy be a great choice for arlechino? cause she can increase atk by 32%
arlecchino, aloy, bennet, xing qiu/xilonen
who even likes aloy guys?
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most supports give multiple buffs. got a screenshot of your char pool?
talk about diminishing returns.. getting two pieces like this in a row and strongboxing away both đ¤
at this point I only need crit circlets, cryo/electro goblets, and ER sands
my cr is 105 when obsidan codex 4pc passive is activated. over-crit or just right?
not the end of the world, I'm more concerned with your EM
in any ideal Mavuika teams (vape and melt), she wants EM
damn right ok i'll improve that, thx
can also post enka card if you want more feedback
I'd keep farming, eventually you'll have enough pieces to pick from and can avoid evercap
well he needs to fix the EM problem too, anyhow
which hopefully can double as a solution to the slight overcap
my Mav is just below 100% now
my Neuv still uses a really bad flower because crit rate is capped anyways
basically ingame stats make it hard to tell how much room for improvement there is
as we can't see your artifacts
this solves that:
https://enka.network/
how the fudge do i have to fight it?
thanksđ
so i installed Jp voice right question if i dont delete the EN
so until EN can sort it self immma try JP right so in future patches assuming i still wont use EN if its still not voiced properly would it also download that making it ask for bigger space or only when i switch back to EN will it ask to download those EN voice
assuming i keep the EN voices and not delete the voices file for it at this time incase i wanna change back
On pc the voice files stay on your device.. idk how it is for mobile.
no no i mean
let say next patch EN is suppose to be 4 gb
but since im at JP it wont download the 4GB right
and i onyl download the Jp voices not the EN despite it being still not deleted
Ohh.. I get it. I actually don't know since I also switched to jp this patch only 
but did u delete ur EN voice files?
No
yea thats my concern
would my thing suddenly ask to download both voice files
cuz incase i wanna change back i dont really feel like wasting a few hours to download 15gb of voices
incase EN some how fixes it self and stop being partially mute
Sorry idk how it works. I will prolly find out myself next patch.
surely MHY is smart that it only downlaods the voice ur currently using and if i do switch back it then ask to download the necessary files :9
I doubt itâs that big but unless you delete the voice file it will stay
itll clog your storage for all the dubs you downloaded
at least you know the future en storage wont be that costly cus it will be mostly blank 
It is
Every dub is almost +20 gb
It downloads all dubs you have
I've never had to download new updates when swapping dubs so it must download both
why do my characters die in Lord of Eroded Primal Fire, when i dont get hit by any of their attacks?
maybe burning floor?
he also has that debuff that blows you up if you heal or something dk what builds the debuff ngl never checked
Js dps race it đĽ
Whats a good atk for mavuika? (Using em timepiece)
instead of aiming for specific numbers just aim for a good amount of atk% rolls
count the number of useful substats on your artifacts
take my Mavuika for example:
Flower: 2x crit rate + 3x crit dmg + 1x EM = 6 useful substat rolls
Plume: 8 useful subs
Sands: 7 useful subs
goblet: 5 useful subs
circlet: 8 useful subs
if you want an even better evaluation, that'd be the "roll value"
but for eyeballing it, count rolls
Around how many useful stats is good for a main dps?
as many as you can obviously buy around 6-7 useful rolls would be ideal
5 good too
depends on the piece
it depends on how long you want to be farming
by my standards, I've found realistic:
7 useful subs for a flower / plume
and 5 for the other pieces
Thanks alot
usually getting one stat would be slightly better than another
but it's rarely to the point that the artifact with the most subs isn't the best
Also my mavuikas atk is really low 1666 hehe now i know i should invest lore
what weapon?
it's really easier to look at substats, since it takes the weapon out of the picture
Sig weap
ah
lvl90?
substat count doesn't look particularly low
it's more than my plume has 4 atk% 2 cr 2 cd
and yours has 2 cr 3 cd 2 EM
so I'd say our plumes are similarly good, just in different stats
but then my sands is much better than can be realistically expected
I think we also get like 50 atk% from the weapon passive
that doesn't show on the enka card?
Yes, i think so
Is having more useful substat rolls better, than less useful substat rolls but all crits?
Like 7 useful substat rolls but mostly atk% or 6 useful substat rolls and most rolls are crit
usually more rolls is better
but at same roll value, I'd rather take the one with more crit
crit is generally more desired/valuable
look at this table from akasha, for example
the "% gain over base" row
getting another roll of atk% would be +1.31% damage
another roll of crit dmg would be +2.14%
but note how 2* 1.31% is still more than 2.14%
so two rolls of atk% still beat one roll of crit dmg
if it was 3 atk% vs 2 crit dmg, it might be a different story
but that's getting into optimizer territory
oh, and crit rate is worst here but that's because I'm at 59.6%
so I effectively only get 0.4% crit rate from having one more roll
Thankssss
generally I'd say:
- get the right main stat
- with as many good substats as possible / highest roll value
- balance crit ratio (1 : 2 after buffs)
oh, and Bennett buff / noblesse as well
Okay with effie I really have no excuse to keep Bennett at c5
I should probably do that soon
Now.
dogshit goblet ik
but i just cant think of a way to get 90/230
if i change to cr circletei will loose a lot of CD
idk what to do here
any hp% goblets good enough to consider?
afaik, at c2, hp% and hydro dmg% can be comparable
if you need more pieces from the domain (for Fischl / Escoffier / Neuvilette / etc), you could consider to just keep farming and improve it eventually
if you're otherwise done, maybe craft a goblet at some point? idk how many elixirs you have left
How far behind is atk gob for escoffier instead of cryo?
i am currently doing that
i got a lot but not a good one on set sadly
I was gearing my fischl yesterday and it was so funny bc I had to keep excluding artifacts that someone else was using
same, I currently have one good GT atk% goblet that Esco and Fischl want
unless Esco is on ER sands
Good thing that I actually have two sands and they want different ones đ
btw i got this uhh
I only have 3 characters built on GT but fischl is using off piece flower bc I actually don't have too many that are super good
She's on this rn
CR pretty low but w/e
My circlets for atk scalers are kindameh
which piece is the difference?
i swaped for my best onset CR circlet and went for my best off peice hp goblet
Yeah I was building bc I got a new tighnari gob
I moved up like 3000 places on akasha
Tighnari mains are slacking smh
do u share artifacts between fischl, escoffier and furina?
oh. those are some really juicy piecees
I try not to swap artifacts as best as possible
If I'm actively using them
Bc load outs don't exist
I have a pretty good GT EM sands
but I'm mostly using her in theater, so there's no telling if EM will be useful 
her build with atk% goblet when Esco doesn't use it is pretty good
gt atk sands looks way better
actually good pieces on an unfarmable set 
yeah, Esco is confiscating it
@lyric cargo btw which goblet for yelan, hydro or hp
hydro
i have sig as well
hp% goblet is really mostly for chars that get a lot of dmg%
i see
ill swap?
like Furina, since GT gives high dmg% and then her kit does the same
dam top 2 percent alredy im at 5%
sup dps escoffier?
Well yeah
without sig tho
that looks good
We don't talk about the year that I was boxing it
do u use her with ganyu?'
Currently, yeah
is the difference noticeable?
i want to pull her. but i have zero cryo dps
Escoffier?
I'm mostly using her as a sidegrade team for Neuv for now
but I'm sure I'll get a cryo dps in the future (not sure how long it'll be)
i might be waiting until snezhnaya 
like i did for mavuika
that's whale behavior
What site is this?
better one
ur escoffier is rounded up. it's 1.4%
depends if you using mh or blizzard
but around 40-45 would be good
I think I'd always farm MH today, unless you already have Blizzard
she'll usually be with Escoffier Furina now, except for theater
Hey guys Iâve been running a full freeze comp with Ayaka Mona Escoffier and Furina. For Mona and furina they have enough er but I struggle to keep Ayaka and escoffierâs bursts up. Is there anything I can do with to give them more er without a significant damage loss?
run a 3rd cryo instead of Mona
Welp time to speedrun abyss
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Which one? I donât have many good options
who do you have
honestly even Kaeya would work just to lower your ER req
Cool it đŁď¸đĽ!!!!!!!
pull shenhe
I was thinking abt swapping calamity to engulfing on escoffier to fix it but her personal damageâŚ
funnily enough ganyu burst gives cryo dmg bonus
Wait ur right
true I need to consider mine c6
can give fav
I mean put it this way
she's worthless if u cant burst every rot
Well no but this is the only domain I ever farmed in Fontaine + emblem
sigh⌠youâre right
Not
but more inconsistent
- Engulfing on high ER req Escoff is actually 2nd bis
put ganyu on fav and give her noblesse or emblem fr fr
Bc it's 2 on hit and 2 on explosion
ye
Would I swap atk sands to er sands too?
Rng when her flower explodes and if it will hit or not
pretty sure you just run atk there
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I do want to get a burst ganyu build for myself ngl
Burst ganyu is the one build I don't have for her
since c4 gives her burst more support either way
I mean if I can give her ER sands on bliz but w/e
we donât use blizzass in this house
D:
4p Nob Ganyu yupge
or mh
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well if itâs a full support build
How much CV is good for an artifact
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even tho with esco her burst will probably deal decent dmg
54.4 or bust
using cv standard in 2025
47 mins till abyss ig
RV >>>
you need 800 RV
900 or fodder tbh
make it 1000 and we have a deal
1100 take it or leave it
tf is this
you think her burst can hit 20k+ per shard with esco and furina
I'm p sure that escoffie has one of my highest RV pieces
hardly unless it's like c1 Escoff and c3 Furi maybe
I'm pretty sure I can hit 20k icicle
maybe if I give her polar star

I do plan to get c1 esco in the future tho
getting ahead of myself
since Iâm a cryo main when I think about it
I think I own every single cryo dps
and the only cryo I donât own is citlali which I want and eula which is garbage
eula fake cryo so doesnât count
D:
let me think if I miss any other cryo
Ayaka, Ganyu, and Wriostheley!!!!!!!
canât think of any
gatcha.
(I farmed it until we got Codex/Scroll)
Ye I own all 3
Three đ!!!!!!!
Cryo only has 3
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Fourth with Skirk
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well dps not 3 characters
Yeah three dps
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itâs not that little
Honestly I haven't used a cryo dps in a long time for abyss
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last abyss I used mono kok
Wtf I'm down to 1 mil mora
I always play cryo
the clam set is nice but like I donât think itâs that good in mono kok
despite being highest crit value, she does very less damage.
is something wrong?
i mostly use her with xilonen, bennett and lan yan
is there any set that will buff kok dmg by a good amount?
your problem is no citallai
yah. i am thinking of replacing lan yan with her
you relying on raw dmg when you can double it with melt
nice build. mine is kinda eh
idk what numbers you are expecting, anyway
ye arle does less dmg than yoimiya in her prime
I don't use the akasha, and I only knew about it because some certain strimmer was trying to get his 50CV Vermillion Anemo Goblet
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around 90k
idk Arle's benchmark (or any char in that regard)
arti looks good enough, if you wanna improve just make the switch to Whimsy
u got whimsy almost built
true i shouldâve went for chiori instead tbh
the low dmg doesnt allow me to get a cd piece
why are u not using crit rate off-piece
if i do ill have less dmg :p
really? 
No
with bennett, ur atk should be fine
you donât have a better off piece?
i meant %
less dmg in a sense that they're hitting less per screen shot
dunno
i have never seen atk% being used as circlet for dps
which is, no shit
trust me i have no idea what im doing
oh i see
then might as well go cdmg
Your overall dps will increase
just select any crit rate off-piece. u will do more damage overall
the big number might be less. but total will rise up
you wonât be flipping a coinflip every hit anymore
very rare nowadays due to abundance of atk (or similar) buffers
back then there are valid cases where atk% circlet can be better than cdmg
mainly DPSes that dont normally run Bennett
i see
i only have shit in my inventory thats why i dont wanna use them
mono arle will clear just fine but it will definitely not surprise you with numbers
ppl are too brainrotted with vape/melt Arle 
Just play mono first half
HOW GREAT I HAVE PACKET LOSS IN ABYSS
NOW
ill check for u pook
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yh abyss reseted in asia

lava dragon statue monka
My kuki and arle died and I couldn't even get 29 stars at least
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burning shill ig cuz Kinich including Papilla on 3rd chamber
i got dehya on my asia acc lol
dont use hydro/cryo
Oop
its escoffiers boss but in pyro
Procrastination sadge
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time to rev up Klee and Wrio ig
Ig I can do mono kok first half and like overload varesa second
So do I stall with burnmelt until it goes into stun phase?
team looks nice with 2 5-stars and 2 4-stars 
it'll never get stunned if u apply cryo/hydro 
u can bruteforce it ig
it is second phase so if you kill chamber 1 fast enough you should be able to stall enough
I'll just brute force then
but if mono kok and varesa wonât work idk what to do
I guess I can do it the old way clear first chamber and than just do mono kok and varesa for the other 2 chambers
if I wonât be fast enough
well that's done time to do DA in ZZZ 
thanks 
looks like hyperbloom is back in the menu
And I only got 27 stars because I started with 30 minutes left and full reset on floor 11 and reset twice on floor 12 chamber 1, kuki and arle died
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so we take one pyro character?
I cleared chamber 1 with two stars but abyss already resetted by then
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Rip 400 primogems from last and last last abyss
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either play burning/monopyro/OL or just bruteforce it
Pull out Mavuika with Kinich
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i will try my hyperbloom team.
alhaitham nahida xingqiu kuki
gl
i dunno if replacing fischl with xingqiu will be better
i know this team will do well on papilla on 2 and 3 at least
it's not hyperbloom anymore if u take out Xq 
it's just i haven't fought the boss on 1
Same hyperbloom team eyyy
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i realized after typing u said not to use hydro or cryo. so
does it work?
I mean u can if u just go the bruteforce route
Hyperbloom can take out papila shields
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very easily
xingqiu's rainswords hits a ton
nahida and alhaitham skills, kuki, blooms
hyperblooms
it's all damage
Haven't tried yet I am still mourning my 400 primogems loss from not doing last last abyss and last minuting last abyss due to procrastination and me dying multiple times on floor 12 and bad team setup for floor 11, killing my 30 minute last abyss run 

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it's fine at least u will get it all this time
i think i did last abyss 8 times
Thanks for the encouragement 

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I meant that if you take out Xingqiu then you might have a problem with papillas on chamber 2 and 3
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fischl should be fine
oz and the aggravate stuff also hits many times
Do citlali just shred resistance and apply cryo?
specifically pyro and hydro resist
Ah okay I see, I never really did aggravate and/or quicken teams, so I'm not sure how they fare against enemies well
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Yes they can destroy papilla shield faster and lava statue boss was made for kinich and mavuika
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this abyss is specified to kinich
make sense
Now I wanna do the abyss tomorrow out of spite and to actually get my 800 primogems this rotation before I procrastinate and miss it again, also because of Skirk 



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the boy
not the boys a popular drama series but a singular boy
one hydro n cryo app resets this boss to initial state 
just groggy it first fr
make sure to adapt your rotation for max elemental hits. (like bursting on Nahida, as increasing EM doesn't actually help)
and do shit with the lava dragon
How do you fight this thing anyway? Am I supposed to bring overload?
use da big bombs
Apparently i need to apply pyro but its also resistant to pyro?
fire
but this time with actual fire not with rocks
doesn't seem to have higher res against any particular element?
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lava_Dragon_Statue
burn it enough then it turns into dragon and burn it more and it gets stunned and also lose its res and if you dont do that or attack it with hydro or cryo on dragon form then itll have 150% all res so you can go to the corner of the arena and cry
I don't see an abyss version listed, so.. presumably it's the same?
bottom 3 rows chillin like
oh
Weird ahh boss. Im just gonna try the overload team and hope the electro dmg does decent while im trying to fry this thing.
its supposed to be an overload and burning team shill boss
basically pyro is mandatory
dendro is good, Kazuha is good
anemo, geo, electro are allowed
cryo, hydro are forbidden
hence it presents us with a very cool logic of trying to cool the lava down with water makes it stronger
Ohh burning.. ye that makes sense lol
even akainus magma got stopped by ice
at least they were merciful and put papilla shields after it
imagine if chambers 2 and 3 were something where pyro / burning are not good
lava dragon statue into pyro herald / lector
Imma keep it real. I always retry per chamber anyway 
Head hurts tryna come up with a team that beats everything at once.
"papilla shield" "merciful"
"at least the unreasonable mechanics align to have the same weakness for all 3 chambers" 
ngl i hate the small fucks more than papilla itself
I did that at first, when I was barely able to clear
then I started aiming for 3 stars in chambers 2 and 3
chamber 1 can be easily re-entered, so that's the easiest one to give up on during the first clear
last abyss was actually the first I had to re-enter for a while
papilla could have been an actually pretty fun boss if it didnt have the 70% all res except you do 72 hits part
i like how the actual fight part goes
Ye neat concept
Time for the limit testing of my Arlecchino for the third time, but this time I'm actually committing to the new Spiral Abyss rotation on release 

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Pick a struggle 

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ngl easiest abyss I did so far
it makes me wish I had Chasca
(I kinda want her anyways, but it's not a high priority..)
thatâs me with sigewinne she is so bad that itâs low priority but she is one of my favorite characters in the game
what do I play 
plunge Xilonen bottom half
do I just die of cringe at lava statue dragon if I do
that's the point
but idk just run Mav monopyro
what could possibly go wrong
or just OL Clor
I ran Naviuh bottom half it was fun
been a while since I dusted her off
spent 80% of lava dragon statue chamber autoing on bennett though
one of the bosses of all time
om
what would be the best dps on fielder set for kok?
clam
can probably 4p HoD it 
Iâm using yelan furina esco as her team for reference
how do u have enough hitcount for Papilla with Arle @viral mulch
do u sweat ur balls to maximize it
You play her with Furina, right? Marechaussee! 
real
crit komi does work but like I donât want to build it personally
you dont
you just let it happen while having some drink at the edge
esco was worth every penny
goose on the moose on the loose on the truce
should be just clam
crafting clam 
well farming the domain would be worse
just keep it be its one of the least investment requiring sets anyway
if you really wanna then can just strongbox anyway
kokomi is one of my favorites so she deserves the best I can offer
and well seems like abyss is easy now that I have varesa and esco so no real hurry to craft artifacts
lmao ok
fucked up on 12-1-1 and 12-2-2 cus i can no hit a papilla but cant no hit a singular ruin guard i guess but yea
and 12-1-1 was just ass grouping
wheres the crit rate?..
its kokomi
uhh
the concept of crit rate is as empty as how many alive ppl there are in enkanomiya
damn
she gets -100 crit rate from passive so it doesnât show crit at all cus itâs in the negative
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I hate wind operatives sm if they split
so cd is useless
mfers deduct like 30 more seconds on my timer cuz they split
swad but hey free heal %
i think theyre fine but i just fucked up my aim
well I have 0 crit rolls on my artifacts the 50 is just what every character starts with
gotta keep looking at the right angle when i attack which is a little difficult cus those ppl are skinny
fatter enemies have more leeway
reverse fat-shaming
personally it would be better if it also added hp%
and also make everything base hp scaling
lemne try abyss on phone
but yea i never sent u the solo for this cycle but the question u asked implies u knew it so i checked that other place and it was what i speculated 

tbf if her normals scaled of hp before burst buff she would be cracked ngl
i died to slimes
rn is too low
I got my Wriorinde clear so 
nice
idk if I can purely do hitcount with just Clor if I replace Fischl for Iansan but should be possible ig
cuz Mav helps too
clorindes hitcount i think is ~38 per e session alone
something like that
i know this cus wolflord head without geo is a 38 hitcount shield and 1 clor e is just enough to break it
more with c1
well then its ~38 with c1 
help, how to beat the first boss of the 12th floor? the lava one.. i lost 2 stars for that.. i have this characters, team?
not counting c1 procs
should be
just run monopyro on lava
Mav or Arle/Bennett/XL/+1
ok thank you i'll try, i need only that chamber , other are 3 stars easy

i was suspecting it but overload also counts as pyro for lava right
idk but cheveruse can practically fill it on her own
her burst gives like around a bit less than half
kind of a just curiosity thing yea
so varesa overload enjoyers eating good
guessing not cuz it's 0 gauge 
no app pyro hits also increase the progress but just less than if it applied the element
o tf
but technically just pyro and overload pyro are 2 diff things so
ye every pyro hit will increase
wheres my c6 Chev 
even if it doesnât actually apply the element
she is mine 
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mavu second half is so good it just allows a fucking cyno first half

I looked at kokomi cons again and god theyâre so ass
they dont exist

10% hb > 20%
1% mhp on hits > 3% mhp on hits
it is triple actually instead of usual double
but even then if youre like 40k hp then its 400 to 1200 flat dmg
big
big kok dmg
must be nice being able to break natlan shields with mavu
i had to mald for 2 minutes full on it with arle

cus i somehow cannot fully dodge a singular ruin guard 
bro that attack also caught me off multiple times
teleports behind you
"nothing personnel kid"
that cryo + electro hypo jumpscare though
good thing I used Lan Yan on first run
otherwise my Klee would die on first hit 
i think i know how papilla attacks work
ngl I should build overload Klee
like u know it does like 4 attacks then wait before next attack
if i am not wrong the first and fourth attack of that wave will be the same boss

or at least the same type of boss cus it treats all hypo elements as just hypo
makes sense
and the first second third attack are all different bosses
and lastly each boss has one "ult" attack assigned that only occurs on the fourth attack
something like electro hypo 3 hit combo only occurs on 4th
I don't know how to do this
make a big bubble
oh you can combine the bubles and make them one?
yep...
I haven't explored this area in a long time. I forgot you could do that.
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Anyone wanna boss rush 10 bosses with me? 710881055
based
caved in and splurged some pulls and got Ifa 
zamn
are you rly gonna fight with him tho
join me in the farm mare box mare camp
just fly around as lv20
eh I like him a bit
I have a bias towards anemo / healer units 
and his design is pretty slick
shoots pistol once a second while barely hanging midair by a pink ball bird
why does he have to float like 2m to fight anyway just idk shoot gun at ground
he's just 5 year old cut him some slack
how the hell do I have 11 of these
worse than Chasca's ig
was it mail or smth
welp in any case I got a reason to build Ororon now
back to Codex/Cinder mines 
Im getting fomo'd into pulling skirk because I cant use effie c1 otherwise
just pull Wrio cuz he's cooler
true...
ange is live
pog
Any suggestions?
1st half is free
2nd half just bring monopyro/overload with good amount of hitcount
Uhh so arle, mavuika, off field raiden? đ
what in the
Arle or Mavuika/Bennett/Xiangling/+1
top just any strong team you have
I'm seeing Escoffier but no cryo DPS despairge
Got her for skirk đ
icic
My xiangling isnt built at all
ok well just bring Fischl or smth unless she's also not build
what bro yapping @viral mulch
wheres my gameplay 
"fuck lava and its 150% res"
fair
was just answering questions from chat
ohnonono Eula top half
he always does it on his first try
still clears faster than my solo Wrio
sike nvm they didn't die from that Lightfall
was gonna say did u rly take more than 60s
mfers split
lol
I had to kill them one by one
should be enough for arle to do that part anyway
but he definitely wont be able to do chamber 2 lol
lol
that lightfall timing

just put the eula in the bag
Whats the most average dmg skirks skill is supposed to do without supports
??
I MEAN fischl.
Is she even considered a sub dps at that point
i still dont rly know the timing to do the thing where you dash at the right timing for the ruin snake thing to put the dot field on wrong spot
maybe i should practice it if theyre gonna put pma in like every 0.5 abyss like they do now
cant u hit it as it deploys the dot field so it doesnt dmg u
as always the core hitbox is a little bullshit and also not rly that free to do so if the one with hp bar is on the other corner
peak
idk ill take a look later ig
"that kind of attack wont hit me"
immediately gets hit
i think my theory is correct tho looking at it
if it starts off with hypo then the last one will be electro jumpscare
hmm, looking at Ange's stream, Wrio bottom half should be possible?
lava
did u try
150% res without doing gimmick is essentially 19m hp
basically talking about second half solo
tldr kinich cant do it solo and the only ones who have a chance are mavu arle lyney and lyney gets fucked on chamber 2 and 3 so need omega carry on first half
I bet Klee can do it...

just need a new set DLC + sig DLC
nah she needs a full alt char
she has a chance if she did like 15 times the current dmg solo
chat "varesa maybe"
ange "maybe i wanna see"
bottom half?
yea

personally i dont believe it lol
if she can do lava then she can
but then i dont rly think its plausible even if you allocate like 150s there
just gotta believe ig
maybe some mad skilled guy in cn is doing it
9* time
burst initial hit on 150% res 
Why do none of the old characters do any damage? My only characters with the same damage builds and all that do damage are Emilie and Mavuka
powercreepâ˘ď¸
Even Best girl Ayaka is barely holding on, her skill does 70k per hit, but she used to do 100k to 120k per hit.
"used to"
Yeah but what the hell is stopping her from doing it? With a 75% buff on her cryo damage? That's just beyond BEYOND SUS
dmg in general doesnt change
I mean her build is the same
Character damage didnt go down
if anything they go up nowadays
Monster HP did go up but the characters still do the same thing they used to do
Same team as always, Kazuha, Ayaka and Shenhe, with water girl Kokomi So what am I doing wrong. Rotations are the same. It's taking me much longer to defeat boses, than just an hp increase
All of them have their BIS weapon.
what do you mean by bosses
the mechanical boss
yeah
its taking you longer to kill it now comapred to when and what?
also PMA in abyss but in inazuma?
In abyss
Which is about the same as when it used ot be in the abyss before
wot
in 5.4?
compare the actual dmg number you do
if you do the same number then its just more hp on enemy side
I mean if they do more dmg it's likely just abyss blessing
more dmg on ayaka e once every 10s fr
dmg doesn't magically go up/down with the same setup
Hows this
how do i beat the first chamber?
monohydro Mualani pog
the Lava Dragon Statue?
yeah
Layla bricks your Arle team
What
i don't have citlali so it's tough
spam pyro, dont use cryo/hydro on it
no citllai would make it worse for you
oh
bennett instead of layla second and use a vape on mualani lol
on the contrary bringing hydro/cryo bricks ur team for lava
i thought u were supposed to cool it down when it gets hot
yea thats like the common sense logic
unfortunately this game does not possess common sense
so cooling it down makes it stronger by reverting it back to 150% all res

burning / overload / monopyro basically
u can bring hydro/cryo as long as u use them after u stun the lava dragon statue
spend some quality time with bennett
like u have always done in the past 5 years
also lava unironically does deadlier attacks when its on rock phase
you might be cooked against papilla but try
ig thats obvious cus that thing on dragon phase cant even hit you
lava dragon statue is going to be kinda terrible for people who don't do research and just enter
exactly what I predicted
Yall
it is pretty difficult to play games when you are blind yes
idk why u insist bringing Escoff
I genuinely dont have anyone else to add
i pulled the new character i am using the new character ahh
i got it with arle overload
Mua + Furina is kinda
combo
the zajef combo
stupid boss can't hit close
you'd think research would help, but.. 
it's not a team you should be using unless you know what you're doing
I guess Fischl > EM Raiden because more hits?
this is just skill issue
15% res decrease with esco and her burst to gain fanfare faster
just use Mav bike and ram it 
I guess I need to research the right normal attack combo on Mav?
also Mav + Raiden is so cursed
Raiden never uses burst
how often do you vape with that Mua team
it's just electro app + overload damage here
Right
lv1 oz > lv13 raiden e ahh
Doesnt fischl have a 13 second cooldown?
alter between e and q and you have like none
^
Hmm
assuming ideal gameplay she (almost) has no downtime
i think i need to reset and go for a run with just chamber 3 bc of the papilla
go with neuvi EC

big O
what's the combo exactly? N1 d spam?
I'm only used to the charge attack playstyle
I believe so yeah
or n1cd? forgot
basically just ignore setup
the mimetic shadow thingies are also a pain
there's also C1 d or C2 d
(I believe you do that with Yelan, if you don't have Citlali..)
n1cd my beloved
as long as it works ig
spending 5 mins with Neuv on Lava Dragon cant be fun though
pa pa pa papi papi pa pa pa papilla
do you have Sigewinne C2 + Citlali C2?
SIGEWINNE 
just search about hydro res reduction
instead of Xilo Kaz that's more traditional bro pushes c2 5-stars
two of them, even
me when 150 res
Escoffier = 55%
Sigewinne C2 = 35%
Citlali C2 = 40%
How do i kill the dragon statue boss
we may clear in 2 minutes with this tech
fire
fill gauge with pyro
kill
done
if hydro/cryo hit = gauge sad
instructions unclear 
(I skipped setup this time)

did N2 D spam until low on nightsoul, then burst and kept N2 D spamming
Omg r yall p2w to be beating the abyss??
you burst immediatly on chamber start
I think u burst first
no?
wait ange rn is talking about how mavuika had some silent hotfix in 5.5 that made her slower to break papilla shield
and idk what hes talking about 

it's mostly a question of how long you've been playing
I never spent anything on the game
i noticed 0 difference
this is also the first time im hearing anything like this
I never spent anything on the game
Except time
mm yes tight

Some1 help on phase 1
just play mualani mav
are you allergic on using Fischl, PMC, or Xiangling
I have 9 more than u 
No im allergic to using characters i dont have build who will end up doing 3k damage
even then u have access to just Tao Furina
then just slap Xingqiu + healer
good enough reason to use Escoff I'd say

So tao - furina - esco - and someone?
so also allergic to Xq got it
I guess I did more meta pulling?
You have more on-fielders than me, but I don't see Citlali, no Neuv
not someone it has to be xingqiu
NOT built
(or yelan)
that's basically allergic
just play what u had earlier
why u dont want to build any of the 4 chars I mentioned 
time to build more charssss
if Fischl is unbuilt, you didn't farm a lot of Golden Troupe?
(if you farmed it, she should be quick to build)
heck PMC doesn't need a lot of investment even, as long as 4p Cinder
I dont like 4 stars 
thats based
is it
then can just run Mua/PMC/Sucrose/+1
4pc scroll + fav my favorite build for any theater character đĽ
đĽ
brb clearing this abyss with full 4-stars
jk Im playing another game rn so i cba
who is even usable this time
bottom half is basically locked to OL ig
xl overload bot
top half can just aggravate
ig top gaming bot xl ol works
not only OL. burning works
is there any other reasonable electro unit for bottom half in case for Fischl top 
playing burning with no Emilie is just why though
and geo works too as long as you can break room 3 shield
I'm not playing Bennett XL Yaoyao 
I stopped trying to beat it fast and cleared on the first attempt after 
just dashed to the edge of the arena and used my 9m 35s remaining to bruteforce it
lmfao
mfw when I bring the perfect tailormade team to break the mechanic but I do 15k dps after
Mav was on EM sands btw, I didn't bother to change it for overload 
sir
this abyss is fairly easy as long as the gimmick is taken care of but its just theres not many teams that can take care of gimmicks
brother what
about soloing, uhm
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sorry, I copied the wrong video
ok nvm my hyperbloom team is garbage
wow. i have never seen cyno solo
he is doing tons of damage with small numbers 
getting his burst back feels painful however đ
CYNO SOLO, WHAT TIMELINE IS THIS 

?!?!?!?
Gimmick Impact 

!!!!!!!
@viral mulch I hate myself
chamber 2 took like 10+ retries looking for that PMA RNG 
I kept getting Scouts
lmao

ill keep it cus its my first sands but at this rate im prob gonna just steal wrios gear

also I havent checked Ifa's specialty
if it's not the saurian crackers I'm throwing him off the cliff
rip
Anyone got suggestions for Navia teams? I heard she goes well with Albedo
You can do Navia, Xiolenen, Xiangling, and benny.
depends on who you have
Albedo is like, last resort option
just post your char list here
Is there a sub I can use for xiolenen? I don't have her
just Albedo then 
What can I do to improve here? Look for criticism on this.
Xiangling can also be subbed for Fischl or Furina but we don't know what you have
sands only 4 useful rolls
feather is 6 but meh
flower same with feather, 3 flat def roll is crazy work though
rip that potential 
where are the talents...
Ya I don't have furina lmao, I don't pull much and only have a few five stars, Thank you tho
so how does Iansan's buff work? is it like exactly like Bennett (base atk scale) or just straight up atk on every artifact
total atk scale yeah
27% of her total atk to be precise
levelling her burst increases the atk buff cap (but doesn't change the %)
oh I see
@viral mulch took hoyolab forever to update
how do i beat fl 12 with no dendro ...
why do you need dendro again
uh for dmg bonus and to kill tenebrous mimesis
I mean does my line up look like it has dendro on 2nd half
i can just use raiden xq xl and bennet right
for 2nd half no
Lava Dragon Statue will brick ur run if u run hydro/cryo
specifically if u do cryo/hydro dmg
arlecchino>
u can run monopyro / overload Arle sure
u must have cracked build
first half i can just play ayaka freeze right?
ye
eh
how do i break the tenebrous shield thingy
elemental hitcount
who holds deepwood in 1st team?




