📌gimshim-help

[opal surge]

just get citlali true

[rugged sparrow]

get c2 Citlali

[distant leaf]

cause her ult charges just by hitting attacks and consuming nightsoul points

so her e does both :9

[timber spire]

Can i replace her with iansan? Does she like do the same thing or?

[distant leaf]

i mean if the char consumes nightsoul points why not

[rugged sparrow]

all the info you need is already laid there

[timber spire]

How high must the cons be tho

[rugged sparrow]

are you incapable to read or..

c2 Iansan = c0r0 Xilo
c6 Iansan > c0r0 Xilo

[timber spire]

Alr thx

[small oyster]

Bro is a real one

Just use mauvika instead?

[small oyster]

What?😭

[sick quarry]

yae miko dps team

[crude dirge]

what set

[valid anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/yae-genshin-yae-miko-genshin-yae-miko-yae-yae-miko-in-your-dreams-gif-24699451

[sick quarry]

lies

she will come home in 13 pulls

[valid anchor]

ah, yes, not Diluc. Enjoy Gorou or Mizuki.

because usually the 4-star native gets also a boost.

[sick quarry]

i would actually enjoy gorou more than mizuki

[sick quarry]

but yae miko is on chronicle i cant get standard characters

[valid anchor]

losing the 50/50 with other Inazuman character

[sick quarry]

others are good too

unless

ayaka or ayato

[opal surge]

[sick quarry]

i kinda like ayato`s gameplay tho

[valid anchor]

hmm. I do like Ayaya, but I'm saving right now. I spent almost all pulls on Iansan (and Varesa), so, cannot pull.

[sick quarry]

hehe

beginner

us real gamblers pull on every banner (started few months ago)

[valid anchor]

I'm saving for Skirk in both UID

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/锌之助-genshin-impact-iansan-gif-8092178951989976166

[valid anchor]

and Iansan is C2. Varesa is C0R1.

[sick quarry]

im doing the jeht quest rn and its so longg

[sick quarry]

wattt same

[valid anchor]

which one? is a 3-part.

[sick quarry]

uhh

piramid shit

[bright cape]

i have a feeling they gonna give iansan for free soon

[opal surge]

its the second best quest in the game might as well enjoy it while it lasts

[sick quarry]

bruh that was only part 1??

[valid anchor]

first one? (with her dad)

[sick quarry]

ye

[opal surge]

they better give me 6 for free

[sick quarry]

i do enjoy it but its cooking my brain with some puzzles, summeru and inazuma worse tho

[valid anchor]

finish that, wait a daily reset, do the next, wait a daily reset, do the last.

[sick quarry]

i spent 1h at the seal things in inazuma

[bright cape]

sure

[opal surge]

I genuinely dont know what I would even do with iansan pre c6 as a non varesa owner

[sick quarry]

what do yall think i can get raiden yae miko koko and kazuha with that right?

[valid anchor]

Varesa is not the only benefitted of Iansan skills. Technically any character who moves gets a benefit.

Yae, Chasca, Ororon, Citlali, Gossip aunt, etc.

[sick quarry]

basically any natlan

or plunge

[opal surge]

ororon citlali what

in chasca shes not an upgrade pre c6

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

yae doesnt maintain her buff

[valid anchor]

Sara can move.

[bright cape]

may be in mavuika team

i heard she can replace xilonen

[opal surge]

i dont play mavuika (onfield)

[valid anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/kujou-sara-genshin-impact-genshin-gif-22879794

[sick quarry]

may i ask who

[bright cape]

anyways having atk buffer on both half can be good

[sick quarry]

oh the inazuma pigeon

[opal surge]

i do have a 90 iansan that ive never played yet

[sick quarry]

will she be on raiden banner?

[valid anchor]

C2 Iansan works almost same as Xilonen C0. C6 outperforms her. But, Xilonen with constellations outperforms her.

[opal surge]

but surely ill get cons soon

[bright cape]

i heard gaming and xiao can also put her buff up

since they move a lot

[opal surge]

gaming needs bennet or he cant do setup

[valid anchor]

highly probable, I think. She always appear when Shogun is on banner

[bright cape]

wait a minute. are 4 stars on chroniced wish random?

[opal surge]

no its regional

[bright cape]

oh then chance to get c6 gorou

[valid anchor]

yeah, regional characters gets a boost.

[bright cape]

is citlali's shield enough for arlecchino?
I feel really bad pulling her. she n mavuika share best teams

[opal surge]

yeah

arle is generally not considered to need a shielder

[quaint fern]

That's how I got my c6 🎮

[valid anchor]

also, standard banner characters will be lurking, but will have a less chance.
It's more probably to lose the 50/50 with any other of the characters from banner.

[opal surge]

its just the same as every other banner

[bright cape]

congrats

[opal surge]

but instead of having 3 4*s where you can lose 4* 50/50 you just have all regional 4*s

[valid anchor]

I lost Mondo chronicled.

I chose Klee, but got Eula instead.

[opal surge]

oh you cant lose to a standard character at all in inazuma

[bright cape]

you wouldn't believe who i chose and who i got

[opal surge]

unless mizuki is on it i forget

[valid anchor]

unless Mizuki, yes.

[opal surge]

no mizuki is literally not even on it or

[valid anchor]

but technically, you may lose it... with other charcter from Inazuman chronicled banner.

you chose Yae-guuji, but lose it with Itto, that can be a chance.

[opal surge]

well yeah its a normal banner of course u can lose 50/50

[bright cape]

i wish the pity was shared across banners.

[opal surge]

but mizuki is not on it so you cant get a standard character

[bright cape]

people were gassing up jean so much

i felt her really mid

[valid anchor]

chronicled wish has weapon-like pity. So, no.

[opal surge]

who gassed up jean huh

[valid anchor]

technically, there's no drawback on this one.

[opal surge]

yeah there is

you can get itto thats almost worse than a standard banner

[bright cape]

they were praising her with neuvi furina back then how she alone was able to vv and max the fan fare stacks.
i might have been listening to wrong people

[valid anchor]

also, first time Chiori is on a chronicled banner, AND with other Inazuman characters.

[bright cape]

neuvi furina jean and fischl didn't feel good
I kinda regret pulling her on chronicled

[valid anchor]

the weapon banner of this chronicled is pretty good.

[sick quarry]

thats such a w pull

[opal surge]

I dont know who pushed neuvi healer propaganda

[rugged sparrow]

but... the pity is shared across all chronicled banner

[opal surge]

its because of the chinese c2 baizhu players isnt it

[rugged sparrow]

always is

[bright cape]

oh yah. i meant guarantee

[sick quarry]

just you wait my pink little fox

[rugged sparrow]

wdym

the fate point thing?

[bright cape]

50/50 loss

yah. fate point

[rugged sparrow]

yeh tough luck for that one

[valid anchor]

weapon section is even better.

Sword Impact 2.0

[bright cape]

with my dumb luck, i know i will either get donut or FS

[opal surge]

FS is fine

[rugged sparrow]

shitting on FS

[valid anchor]

there's no drawback on the weapon section. Less suitable is FS.

[bright cape]

i already have one n i prefer xiphos

[rugged sparrow]

"no drawback"
looks at donut

[opal surge]

TP

[rugged sparrow]

[bright cape]

on both kuki n kazuha

[valid anchor]

I need the donut for Kokomi

[opal surge]

I really think you should only pull on this if you want redhorn uraku or FS

[rugged sparrow]

so she can do 1 more dmg ok

[opal surge]

I think everything else is kinda sus

FS is also kinda sus to actively pull for ig

[rugged sparrow]

Haran is kinda okayge across the board no

[opal surge]

Yeah but crit rate is a bit sus nowadays

[rugged sparrow]

blame it on Mare

[opal surge]

true

[valid anchor]

shogun-series weapons, all of them (AND the polearm) are on same version!

[opal surge]

if you own xilonen youre probably always gonna be pretty happy with uraku

[valid anchor]

I have Chiori

so, Uraku Misugiri may be a chance

and from the full shogun-series weapons, only a weapon left for me. And it's on the Shogun banner

[bright cape]

is the claymore good on mavuika?

[valid anchor]

so-so. Just another critical damage stick

[bright cape]

ok.

[valid anchor]

in fact, defense-based skill.

R1: DEF increased by 28%. Normal/Charged attack DMG increased by 40% of DEF.

Base Attack: 542. Critical Damage +88,2%

[bright cape]

def sands on mavuika

she does do quite a bit of charged atk

[opal surge]

its not great

its within 1%-2% of 4* options off the top of my head

(worse than SS of course)

[valid anchor]

on Mavuika? Redhorn stonetresher is a bit sub-par.

Noelle loves it!

[sick quarry]

waw pretty catalyst

and raidens sword is nice

[valid anchor]

that's the Kokomi BiS

[sick quarry]

i might have to buy some primogems

[valid anchor]

and don't forget Engulfing Lightning is on Shogun's banner.

so, all Inazuma-series weapons are on same version.

[valid anchor]

BiS for Ayaya (and other charas)

[sick quarry]

anything but ayaka

[forest venture]

🤨

[bright cape]

i see it many use on bennett

feels so wasteful

i wanna lose to skyward blade

on standard

[valid anchor]

so little love for my wife, eeh

[glad lance]

choosing different twin on biggening of game have impact on story or only cutscenes?

[sick quarry]

i just dont think ayaka can help me in any way

and i dont even know what she does

[bright cape]

damage

sakura fubuki

[lyric cargo]

can she be sidegrade? in case a char is needed on the other side

[valid anchor]

Ayaya? main (and classic) Cryo DPS

[opal surge]

yeah can be fine, missing duration hurts a lot and introducing electro to chascas bullet pull dilutes transformative reactions whcih isnt entirely made up by gaining an additional stack for chasca passive

[lyric cargo]

two losses in a row

[opal surge]

having a superconduct eat your cryo aura pains me

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1358794095237136656/image0.gif

[rugged sparrow]

vapeload angle

[opal surge]

yeah vapeload is alright

my sheet isnt loading so i cant refresh my mind on how alright it was

unfortunate

[sick quarry]

i prefer pyro

[opal surge]

I did sheet different iansan cons at some point but theyre lost in the void apparently

[rugged sparrow]

dont submit to the Mav Q swap brainrot

[opal surge]

I play mav lali chasca in practice

[rugged sparrow]

the "I know I can play a better Mav team but im doing it anyway"

me with burngeon

[opal surge]

I would play furina bennet more often but I need furina to wheelchair my tao

its fine once chasca reruns it will be objectively better for me to field chasca anyway

[rugged sparrow]

not if u get Mav consts

[opal surge]

[silver prism]

any1 have petrichor boss and can help me beat it? im WL7

i need to join someone (NA)

ping plz

[sick quarry]

petrichor boss?

oh u mean the statue

i can help @silver prism

[valid anchor]

yeah, the centaur.

[sick quarry]

it used to be easy for me cuz i was using noelle

[valid anchor]

use any claymore user. Mavuika is the less suitable (due pyro resistance), but she can even pack a punch.

no claymore? Geo users

[sick quarry]

real

[valid anchor]

Chiori/Navia/Zhongli going bananas

and Gorou hekping

[silver prism]

u still on?

[valid anchor]

doesn't appear he's playing genshin (no Katherine saying) nor online.

[sick quarry]

yas im here!

@silver prism

[silver prism]

whats ur uid?

[sick quarry]

1 sec

[sick quarry]

@silver prism

[silver prism]

trying

[sick quarry]

oki

[silver prism]

sent

[sick quarry]

added

[lyric cargo]

there's a button to copy the uid to clipboard, btw. In the paimon menu

[sick quarry]

i know but i was logging in the game and it was faster to ss

[sick quarry]

[haughty lotus]

Frieren feet… fries?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249408446110109724/1254893216642236477/gifkitties_-_1751470205652332749_1.gif

[cedar flint]

I got no choice but to build a wheelchair team for aloy

[bright cape]

who are worth levelling up more for the theatre?

some are 70/70

[quaint fern]

[bright cape]

just sent him 70/80

is eula worth 70/80ing?

[quaint fern]

Probably not

[small oyster]

Layla and garou are worthy anywhere
The rest i'm not sure diona looks cool

[lyric cargo]

70/70 should be fine for anyone whose talents you're not looking to level much

for theater, I'd leave the rest as is

I'd 90 Navia eventually, since she an on-fielder. but that's not exactly a priory

that's mostly me having a lot of books lying around

[bright cape]

thanks

i dunno why i have a feeling that they are gonna up the difficulty of theatre now that they are upping the rewards for stars

[lyric cargo]

it's effectively more difficult already, with that
takes a much better clear to get the stars

I imagine we'll re-enter multiple times, getting the late stars first while preserving the good chars early

[bright cape]

oh so just like spiral abyss. we can just do the ones where we haven't obtained stars properly again

i didn't know that

[lyric cargo]

I assume that's how it works

[bright cape]

that's nice then. i have always done one run only

[thorn bay]

Layla

[haughty stratus]

hey i’m trying to complete all the “in the footsteps of the chosen of dragons” quest chain, and i think ive got them all, but i cant tell bc they’re all rlly just things you walk into. is there a way to tell which ones i haven’t completed without using a guide to go back and walk through them all?

[bright cape]

nope

[haughty stratus]

i need them to put in an archive of quests so we can see if we’ve completed certain ones, i really one that little avatar

[bright cape]

game8 has a checklist

basically you have to trigger every little cutscene with little one

[cloud plover]

how do i unlock this domain
im at the stage where the water only goes down halfway

how do i completely drain all the water

how do i get the "palace in a pool" domain unlocked

[elder bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYRKqF4xVpo

[cloud plover]

ty

[lyric cargo]

it's possible the city reputation npcs give city rep exp for those quests (?)

if so, you can check which ones you did there

[elder bluff]

they don't

[small oyster]

Could you send the link for this site?

[rugged sparrow]

it's on the pinned msg

[tropic thistle]

I got cooked by the theatre pyro buff of galeblaze, why is that a thing ?!?!?!!

[gloomy venture]

Which one is better chat?

[neon wave]

1

[gloomy venture]

Okay

[tropic thistle]

1 so you can play EM raiden !!!!!!!

[gloomy venture]

Any suggestion?

[crude dirge]

get better crits

[crude dirge]

keep it

[gloomy venture]

Which one is better?

[crude dirge]

bro the equipped one

5 good rolls vs 6 good rolls

[gloomy venture]

No I am meaning to use

And should I save up to get c1 raiden or get r1 weapon?

[neon wave]

? Right one has more rolls

6 vs 7

though first has more crit so

possibly better anyway

[gloomy venture]

Okay

[neon wave]

C1 is not good
R1 is okay, but C2 is by far the better investment

[gloomy venture]

Okay I meaning if I get c1 and I can get c2

[neon wave]

If you can get C2 then that's the best option yeah

[gloomy venture]

Okay

[crude dirge]

isnt atk barely helps her

and he got like 2k attack

[neon wave]

ATK% is good on her, better than ER% usually as long as she can reach ER reqs (unless sig)
What would be better for their build is more of a question for opti

but as far as rolls go, right one has more

[gloomy venture]

I do got her weapon

[neon wave]

you said you wanted to get r1...? you already have it then

[gloomy venture]

I mean r2 lol

[rugged sparrow]

weapon refines in general sucks ass

only go for it if you're whale/mega simp

[gloomy venture]

Okay

I used her a team combo with dendro and Hydro

[rugged sparrow]

..

[gloomy venture]

Ignore the old man

[rugged sparrow]

still

you don't have any healer to build up Furina's fanfare

[gloomy venture]

I know that but I don't use Furina brust most time to be honest

[rugged sparrow]

...

[gloomy venture]

I am so sorry I forget what fanfare does

[rugged sparrow]

increases dmg%

no point in using Furina if you don't use her burst

just run someone else

[crude dirge]

nahida E sethos E fischl E (yae miko is placeholder) yelan Q E sethos Q E walk cancel m1 spam good rotation?

[glad lance]

where i can find furina after archon quest?

[cedar flint]

like in the world? you can’t but you can do her story quest if you didn’t do it yet

[bright cape]

i know it's all archon team. but it's really weird

might as well go hyperbloom raiden

[late locust]

can someone join my world rq, i need this chest pls help, uid:618894871

[lyric cargo]

which server is that? I can never remember based on the first digit

[late locust]

i did it alr , ty tho

[lyric cargo]

ah

is that a co-op chest btw? I don't remember one in Fontaine

[late locust]

yea, you need a player to stand next to it

its a exquisite chest

[bright cape]

is yelan as solo hydro good?

[cedar flint]

depends on the team but usually you run double hydro

[bright cape]

say for arle bennett lanyan team.
or alhaitham nahida kuki team

[cedar flint]

probably

[bright cape]

i have r3 fav

n may be with er sands, it will not be troublesome

[rugged sparrow]

yeh it's a good vape Arle team

[lyric cargo]

potential consideration to run Arle with Citlali
or the Alhaitham team with Furina

but depending on what's available, I've seen Yelan used there. yeah.

[cedar flint]

well I’m sure if he had the best support in the game for pyro he would’ve used her

so I assume she is not available

[bright cape]

yah i think i should get her instead

hoyo please make a mode where arle is better than mavuika

[cedar flint]

never sadly

well not that I care about arle

[rugged sparrow]

"enemy's immune to any damage except NA"

next thing you know Mav NA spam

[cedar flint]

enemy immune to the pyro archon

[lyric cargo]

easy: when the on-field char uses energy, the enemy loses a lot of res.

[misty void]

does anyone know how to clear floor 11 chamber 3 without sucrose,kazuha or venti? Also team suggestions please !!!

[lyric cargo]

possibly Mavuika (?)
her AoE is not terrible

[rugged sparrow]

depending on how geared your char is, you can still clear without anemo, just annoying

[misty void]

I’ve tried T-T

[cedar flint]

Mavuika donuts until they all die

[rugged sparrow]

what teams have you tried

[lyric cargo]

how is Lan Yan's grouping? I haven't actually used her at all after pulling her

[rugged sparrow]

kinda meh

rather anemo MC

[keen willow]

Once every like 15 seconds

[elder bluff]

play with zli
zli create pillar
mavuika on pillar
mavuika summons her bike
pillar dance

[sick quarry]

When using Chevreuse do I need to hold and then shoot her gun to gain buff for Arlecchino in a overload team?

[keen willow]

Ye

[cedar flint]

yes the atk buff only trigger from the charged bullet

aka aimed mode

[sick quarry]

ic

[sick quarry]

use qiqi as dps

[misty void]

Noooo

[sick quarry]

yezzzzz

[misty void]

Uh Raiden Hyperbloom

Hyperbloom w kuki

Arle team

Arle overload team

Mavuika vaporise

That’s about it

[opal surge]

i dont actually remember whats in it other than that its many mobs but raiden taser should clear it or

some furina raiden stuff

[heavy kernel]

need help:
Xiao CR, CD, ATK
1st:
CR - 60.3%
CD - 200.0%
ATK - 2630

2nd:
CR - 64.5%
CD - 174.4%
ATK - 2791

which one better huhu

[opal surge]

first but you need more crit rate

unless this is mare

[heavy kernel]

ohh ok thnks

[viral mulch]

whats the difference between porcupine and hedgehog

[sick quarry]

is that cyno

[elder bluff]

porcupine is way bigger

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/cyno-sip-cyno-simp-cyno-genshin-impact-cyno-genshin-cyno-impact-gif-26780603

[viral mulch]

ok thanks

[elder bluff]

f1

[viral mulch]

nice

[bright cape]

what would be rotation for xilonen, citlali, iansan and mavuika?

this team should trigger nighsoul burst quicker n no cirlce impact

there's no pyro resonance however

[lyric cargo]

for this reason, it would usually be better to run Bennett instead of Xilonen or Iansan

[viral mulch]

the usual

[rugged sparrow]

Bennettge where

[viral mulch]

do the forbidden tech

[bright cape]

so iansan before citlali?

then mavuika

[viral mulch]

mavu citlali xilonen chasca and never swap into chasca
4pc reverie chasca does off field dmg with passive and frontload a few hunded thousand dmg fr

[late locust]

quick question guys, is there any way to subsitute furina in this teamcomp

[rugged sparrow]

depends on who you have

[lyric cargo]

the rotation would be:
Mav skill
Iansan skill, normal attack, burst
Bennett skill, burst
Citlali skill, burst

if Iansan is c2, you don't need to do the normal attack.
if c6, the longer uptime is quite good since you set her up first anyways

[rugged sparrow]

plenty of subs but noone is as good basically

[bright cape]

doubt it. there isn't any off-fielder that does as much damage as her

[late locust]

uhhh

[viral mulch]

whel

[late locust]

so i cant run this team without her then

[bright cape]

u can without hydro resonance

[viral mulch]

skipping furina was a rookie mistake

[lyric cargo]

Citlali I guess, but not really recommended. she's better with a pyro dps on the other side

[late locust]

i didnt get it as a f2p

[bright cape]

fischl or ororon would work nicely

[late locust]

damn dont got her either

[rugged sparrow]

if Neuv is c1 ZL should be a-ok

[late locust]

ok ty

[late locust]

c0

[rugged sparrow]

[late locust]

i got r1 tho

[bright cape]

then definitely him

[viral mulch]

atp just throw in draconic stack reaction fodder

[bright cape]

i always assume neuvi is c1

[late locust]

i dont have him sadly

[late locust]

wdym

[viral mulch]

passive

[late locust]

ohhh

[rugged sparrow]

do you know Neuv's mechanics or you just pulled him because "meta this meta that"

[late locust]

i know a little in the mechanics department

[viral mulch]

i think its on me for mentioning a specific skill name

[late locust]

but yes i pulled him cuz big dmg

[rugged sparrow]

tru

[viral mulch]

cus who knows that in genshin impacc

[rugged sparrow]

but just run Fischl

[late locust]

ok ty man

[rugged sparrow]

if u need shielder just run ZL and pretend double geo is as good as +1 draconic stack

[late locust]

ok

[rugged sparrow]

4p Petra at least

[bright cape]

omg. i forgor we got two geo

may be layla

[rugged sparrow]

they don't seem to have her

[viral mulch]

citlali time fr
the best support in the game

[rugged sparrow]

surely ZL res shred (on top of Xilo and VV), geo reso, and Petra, can make up for +1 Draconic stack

[viral mulch]

nvm no her either

missing every broken support in the game challenge

[rugged sparrow]

[late locust]

im going for her chill

im at 69 pity rn

[rugged sparrow]

should've gone for Furina

[bright cape]

how would ororon be in that?

[viral mulch]

both*

[late locust]

lost 50 50

[rugged sparrow]

I mean Ororon is basically just Fischl sidegrade/upgrade depending

[bright cape]

i was surprised how u can trigger him without him being onfield

[viral mulch]

he kinda loses like quite a lot of his value when theres already a scroll user in the team but like i guess petra xilo mald or smth

[rugged sparrow]

and c0 Neuv without shielder can be cringe asf

[late locust]

i have ororon at c0 and fischel at c4 so i think fischl is better right?

[rugged sparrow]

not necessarily

[late locust]

my ororon is lvl 20 rn

[rugged sparrow]

Ororon good in aoe + you can sweat 4p Petra Xilo + 4p Cinder Ororon like natchez said

[bright cape]

how about neuvi, zhongli, kazuha, ororon?

[viral mulch]

like if you can bear with the fact that you have to in fact use archaic petra artifact set four piece bonus then ororon would prob benefit the whole team more by buffing neuv

[bright cape]

[rugged sparrow]

it's an option ye

[bright cape]

ororon holds scrolls

[rugged sparrow]

Xilo free to be used elsewhere

[bright cape]

i mean he is swimming with options here

[rugged sparrow]

just not the best ones

[bright cape]

ayaka freeze, arle hyper, even varesa

[rugged sparrow]

Ayaka freeze in 2025

[bright cape]

oh i meant other non-neuvi teams

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

that was quite random but

[late locust]

btw i still cant get 36 stars im stuck at 34

[rugged sparrow]

which chamber are u struggling

[late locust]

2 and 3

[viral mulch]

for this abyss it would be best to just like

neuv res shred res shred res shred on second half

[rugged sparrow]

just Varesa or Arle top half no

[viral mulch]

if youre gonna use him that is cus yea

[late locust]

yup, i went varesa iansan xiangling and chev

[viral mulch]

thats good

what is the issue then is it the enemy

[late locust]

yea

[viral mulch]

like do u die or

[late locust]

no i dont do dmg with ayaka freeze

[rugged sparrow]

cough

[viral mulch]

yea thats cus its ayaka freeze

change second team and all is good

[late locust]

i cleared the boss in chamber 2 in 90 sec with varesa

[rugged sparrow]

problem with Ayaka in this abyss setup too is multiwave

and u have to kill each wave with 1 ult cuz they have 1m+ HP

[viral mulch]

problem with ayaka is its ayaka

[rugged sparrow]

and then u afk next wave

[late locust]

what sould i go with then neuv?

[viral mulch]

jk tbh shes actually pretty good this abyss as long as you have the investment but the issue is the bar for investment is extremely high

[late locust]

i had mitsplitter for ayaka and i got shenhe too and still cant do nothing

[rugged sparrow]

I'd lowkey run Raiden nat

[cedar flint]

you need ice chef for ayaka to be better

[late locust]

yup im going for her alr

[viral mulch]

exactly

[rugged sparrow]

actually XL taken nvm

[late locust]

i probably can put bennet in there right instead of XL?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean Raiden nat warrants XL

[viral mulch]

btw i redid the clor/wrio solo abyss for this cycle cus i already did it but it sucked ass in gameplay so i needed a better recording

[rugged sparrow]

Clor solo this cycle

[viral mulch]

its actually rly good for her

self aura mobs so she actually procs passive solo

[rugged sparrow]

actually I forgot she has 0 poise mult with c6

fkin whale

[late locust]

so can i just go raiden rn?

[viral mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757563597944520784/1366019655897972808/55abyss2_redo.mp4?ex=680f6c71&is=680e1af1&hm=bdd6579db19094af4661ddae6fd8a7178b6f19a43ab50b8bbe03fa7ed9f3ba7b&
enjoy sir

[rugged sparrow]

nah just run Neuv Xilo Kaz + 1 random unit to shred seahorse crystal

[late locust]

ok ty

[rugged sparrow]

Kaeya / Rosa is your best contender, just make sure they don't randomly get one tapped

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

cuz they're low level

[viral mulch]

isnt it lovely how seahorse with no pearl can still do almost every attack pattern but its just physical dmg

[rugged sparrow]

can we remove tripod next abyss ty

[viral mulch]

i honestly dont mind tripod as much
after enough experience i felt its more tolerable than like most other natlan bosses

[rugged sparrow]

fair

idm lava dragon tbh since burn Klee

but the cryo hermit is absolutely vile

(I hate cryo aura)

[viral mulch]

lava dragon and qucu are my worst enemies just cus how much they fuck the solo gameplay

[rugged sparrow]

Qucusaur u mean Furina check

[viral mulch]

nah man qucu can be soloed u just gotta wait 100s doing literally nothing and do both half in 80s fr

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

and lava just has too much hp for its gimmick i dont think its realistic to solo in time

[rugged sparrow]

just c6 Mav

[viral mulch]

have you tried putting her banner on live

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

[late locust]

well i just got her at 77pity, so is it necesary to go petra and not scroll?

[bright cape]

that poor consecrated beast

[bright cape]

nope. go scrolls

[viral mulch]

i feel like this sentence is illegal to witness for most players

[rugged sparrow]

just run Scroll

[bright cape]

i dunno why people were so afraid of them

[viral mulch]

if no scroll users in team then scroll
if yes scroll users other than her then petra
ideally you get both sets and swap between

[rugged sparrow]

ideally you have both sets and adjust depending on situation

[viral mulch]

haha im faster i win

[bright cape]

i started around 3.4

[rugged sparrow]

I got chat cd'd

[bright cape]

consecreated beasts never felt that bad

[viral mulch]

its mainly just when theres multiple in same wave which happens a lot when they get added to abyss
them alone is no biggie

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1338920719589048320/888612380634927176-96.gif

[viral mulch]

2 of em can go quite annoying since most of their attacks are either multihit long combos or move around a lot of both

[rugged sparrow]

vulture + croc

[viral mulch]

and when get hit on wrong time you just get stunlocked then comboed to death

[bright cape]

yah. i can see circle impact having issue

[rugged sparrow]

or vulture + tiger

[viral mulch]

tbh tigers the worst one i think

[rugged sparrow]

the baddest

[viral mulch]

u know that 3 combo attack with the vine shooting that ones dodge hitbox is actually so fucked

[rugged sparrow]

yeah

and then on the opposite end we have croc

[viral mulch]

and also the claw attack has barely any indicators and also the claw attacks startup and the 3 combo startup look almost the same

[rugged sparrow]

u try to attack it while it rolls? lmfao gl with the auto targetting

[viral mulch]

croc just moves around a whole lot but is the easiest to dodge imo

[rugged sparrow]

yeah it's just annoying to hit

[viral mulch]

yea and the other 3 are middle grounds

altho the anemo snake never got added to f12 idk why

[rugged sparrow]

playing Tigh against croc is just

where the fuck are my arrows going

[viral mulch]

croc gonna hit that "thats my afterimage" anime cliche

[viral mulch]

this one does have an attack where youre forced to take damage cus the dodge timing is nonexistent so it would be quite unfortunate for no damage run players tho

[rugged sparrow]

watch Ange somehow found a way and enlightened u

[late locust]

ok ty guys

[viral mulch]

if u tune in on ange streaming you can actually hear a lot of "man fuck this enemy/abyss" or something with that context
that is if you understand japanese

[late locust]

is this team alr or do i go ororon istead of zhongli and go archaic petra for xilo

[bright cape]

zhonli is nice qol for c0

keep him

[rugged sparrow]

HAHAH

[late locust]

ok

[viral mulch]

he was complaining a lot about tall female model climbing pillar on tripod which
fair i also did

[bright cape]

looks like ur xilonen is not that built. try using ororon instead of her

[late locust]

i just got it bro calm down

[bright cape]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/554984861748822016/1177843793819598909/890239359289274468-.gif

[viral mulch]

sometimes i do wonder who was the first maniac who just saw the newly added tripod with its pillar that was very clearly designed to not be climbable and thought hmm maybe i can climb this anyway

and probably spent the next 10 hours rubbing on the pillar with each char

[bright cape]

that's one way to put it

[lyric cargo]

just crown the skill and she's fully built tbh

add any 4pc scroll, even without the right main stats, and you're good

[late locust]

is flute of ezpitzal better than favonius for xilonen?

i mean i can get flute to r5, my favonius is only r2

[bright cape]

fav better

[late locust]

ok ty

[forest venture]

👋

[haughty lotus]

cj

[forest venture]

🥥

[silver prism]

whats better for arle, dragon’s bane or white tassel?

[opal surge]

white tassel generally

[forest venture]

i have a white tassel for xiao

[thorn bay]

Should I exiler a goblet now or are there any more additions to the exiler in the next update???

[rugged sparrow]

nobody knows

all we know is that we're getting 1 elixir per month now from IT if you can obtain 9 stellas

[lyric cargo]

what goblet are you considering to elixir, btw? and what's the current build (enka card?)

(for me it depends on whether I'll be done farming the set if the goblet rolls well)

[haughty lotus]

Not at all worth it for a character like Layla. And your build needs a lot of work in the first place, use a elixer once your build is almost done

[neon harness]

Ded

[haughty lotus]

aliv

[neon harness]

Na

[haughty lotus]

Eu

[sick quarry]

where to find dheze

[lyric cargo]

I'd google for that + genshin fandom

[sick quarry]

i cant find it

im trying to push the reputation as much as i can

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/To_the_Night,_What_is_the_Night's

[lyric cargo]

I kinda did the opposite, deliberately not claiming city rep exp for quests

since they don't let us do the weekly city rep bounties once reputation is maxed

[sick quarry]

why tho

[lyric cargo]

bounties give rewards, we used to be able to infinitely repeat them (once a week)
the 5.0 update removed that

[lyric cargo]

you get them from the challenges in the area I think

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/neuvillette-chief-justice-hydro-dragon-thinking-gif-6770583929681677093

[neon harness]

Tkmo

[dusty cape]

AS

[haughty lotus]

😌

[cloud plover]

how do i trigger the random quests that give companionship exp upon completion

[dusty cape]

this is what I do normally

https://youtu.be/hVfFKa6bWiU?si=bRoX-NMXRVrLLiIN

[bright cape]

feeding dog in inazuma is easier

[dusty cape]

cool

maybe tell the person asking how to do that then

[bright cape]

this might be easier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfC-72D-Ok

[bright cape]

u should also just feed doggo 😔

[dusty cape]

I don’t need to do resinless friendship farming anymore

[cloud plover]

resinless companionship exp is just what i needed! thanks

[cloud plover]

okay thank you, will try that too

[forest venture]

👋

[gloomy venture]

Anyone need help?

[sick quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1364247992177131650/7sj3b4w017ne1.gif

[gritty heart]

Hi, what should I use on Hu Tao (C0): R3 Dragon Bane or R1 Primodial Jade Winged Spear?

[lyric cargo]

https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

Primordial Jade Winged-Spear: Is better than the [R1] variants of Dragon's Bane and Deathmatch with ideal stacking. While this is a very strong weapon when fully stacked, maintaining the stacks on Hu Tao isn't ideal in realistic situations making the weapon less consistent than other options.

it doesn't mention at what refinement DB becomes always better
but given the issues they mention, I'd use DB

if could also depend a bit on your artifacts.
PJWS might balance or unbalance your crit ratio. DB gives EM

[viral mulch]

h

[thorn bay]

P

[gritty heart]

Thank you for the insight 🙏

[thorn bay]

Is there a artifact set that’s similar to scroll set that works without natlan characters

[rugged sparrow]

no

[lyric cargo]

Viridescent Venerer
Archaic Petra

they offer less quality of life and shorter uptime

[thorn bay]

I need it for cryo sadly

I’m still searching for similar one

[lyric cargo]

then no, just Noblesse and Tenacity

their buffs are smaller

[lyric cargo]

what kind of cryo team? melt? freeze?

[thorn bay]

Freeze

[rugged sparrow]

then search for it you shall

[lyric cargo]

just noblesse / tenacity and wait for next region

[thorn bay]

I suppose so

[lyric cargo]

I see scroll as the new standard for support sets now
I expect they'll make more of that power level

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

tralalelo tralala

[rugged sparrow]

I hate it here

[viral mulch]

life is better once you give up some braincells

[sick quarry]

wtf why does it look so good

[viral mulch]

tralalelo tralala

[sick quarry]

plz no brainrot

[viral mulch]

he is the reason why its so good

[lyric cargo]

constellations

I have not read them, but I know natchez invests quite deeply
it might be c6

[viral mulch]

no its all thanks to tralalelo tralala

[sick quarry]

teach me ur ways

https://tenor.com/view/tralalero-tralala-gif-3662953298865045507

[viral mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/tralalelo-tralalala-gif-9781035983536344817

[primal latch]

Is mavuika weap better for navia than wolves graveston

[opal surge]

mavuika weapon is navias best in slot

[primal latch]

Ty.

Wait... Even her sig weapon? Wow

[lyric cargo]

I believe they're close, with Navia's slightly behind

so if there was a good banner with it, it might still be worth it if you're just looking at Navia

thing is, though, that Mav's is also far more versatile

[opal surge]

it can swing either way but yeah verdict isnt a great weapon sadly

but it looks great so

[lyric cargo]

I have Mav's signature, so there's no way I'm pulling for Navia's
Escoffier sig will have to wait for a rerun

(abyss blessing seems to indicate it's those two)

[neon wave]

banners are out yeah

[viral mulch]

bro missed the stream

[viral mulch]

verdict and mavu sig are like somewhat equal on navia right like no big diff

[opal surge]

pretty much yeah

im not sure how it looks with significant vertical

[viral mulch]

verdict wins cus super cool looking ax fr

[opal surge]

verdict wins because i have it and I dont have ATBS true

[viral mulch]

mavuika deserves her sig more

[opal surge]

mavuika holds my serpent spine but is not on slot 1 because thats where my main dps goes

[viral mulch]

my mavuika would usually go on slot 4

bennett uptime not an issue if i just kill fast enough fr

[lyric cargo]

Navia is mostly a theater filler for me, I was okay with getting her early while pulling 4★s

she can hold Mav's sig when geo is in theater without pyro

Navia's weapon options when Mav is using 1000 suns are kinda sad, it's either the Melusine claymore or r2 fruitful hook (with Xy Furina I guess )

[keen willow]

Who are the 4 stars

[viral mulch]

me

[lyric cargo]

they were Kaveh and Kirara
I needed numbers to enter theater

not exactly good chars, but they filled out the numbers

[keen willow]

Who's playing kaveh🗣️‼️

[viral mulch]

not me

[keen willow]

As much as i love him he's ass

[viral mulch]

kaveh best usage is narwhal bloom deck in tcg

[lyric cargo]

kaveh hyperbloom with special guest stars next month

[keen willow]

Man if i get ifa i have no anemo chunks😔

[viral mulch]

hydro cryo geo

cooked

[keen willow]

💀

[sick quarry]

neuvi coming?

nvm

me dumb i had hopes

[viral mulch]

neuv open only means you cant borrow a c6 neuv from friend

[lyric cargo]

as starter char in theater

which is actually a downside: anyone who has him can already bring him. any you can't loan the starter chars from friends

[sick quarry]

i only got mfs who dont share their things

[opal surge]

You should prolly just borrow furina anyway

[viral mulch]

i think all 15 borrow chances of mine is used up this season

[lyric cargo]

I put my chars in for borrowing, but they usually don't get used

[opal surge]

Well I mean this theater you can also wait and borrow a C6 ice coffee

[viral mulch]

might as well preset my borrows for next ig

[opal surge]

[viral mulch]

c6ing ice coffee

[opal surge]

Surely you will

[viral mulch]

no i womt

when skirk and possible mavu rerun is gonna be like right around the corner

[lyric cargo]

v5.6 comes out May 6 it seems

six days of waiting with theater

[opal surge]

What if you want C6 coffee for your C6 skirk

[viral mulch]

i should put childe on borrow as a joke

[opal surge]

I've been borrowing a C6 ayato every theater I could so far

[viral mulch]

i am obliged to not comment about this in my reply

[opal surge]

[viral mulch]

🦈

ig ill just put my usual borrowing crew this time
and also childe cus yea funny

[small oyster]

This isn't the flex corner
Broke lives matter

[small oyster]

Bloom
The most broken team in tcg

[glad lance]

How nathlan reputation works?

[lyric cargo]

there are six tribes, each has its own reputation npc

you max out reputation with all tribes, you max out Natlan reputation

[viral mulch]

@rugged sparrow ange streaming trying genshin in pc and for some reason his audio quality sounds 144p now and also he randomly just forgor the pillar climbing spot

[rugged sparrow]

peak

[opaque moat]

yoo how do i open this up

[lyric cargo]

should be one of those places where you need one of those plant seed spirits

[spark cloud]

Hello, I'm not quite active in this server but can I ask what 4 star characters (supports ideally) should I spend effort on building? Especially if my dps are cryo and hydro

[lyric cargo]

got a screenshot of your char pool?

from here, for example:
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html

[spark cloud]

@lyric cargo here are my characters

[lyric cargo]

• Bennett if you haven't (I haven't seen his build)
• Chevreuse as an option for Arlecchino
• Faruzan and potentially Lan Yan for Wanderer
• Fischl as a general filler, for Chevreuse teams, and for Tighnari
• Xingqiu to occasionally deal with pyro shields

you can build more, if you need them to meet entry requirements for theater

I don't think Yaoyao is very necessary for example, but for entry reqs she's fine

[viral mulch]

alright

[bright cape]

that's quite good right?

also didn't know it was flat atk bonus

[sick quarry]

skill dmg 900%

[viral mulch]

i still need 32 of the same book cus ill have to double crown mavuika on rerun

but thats for future me

[bright cape]

how much atk does iansan have?

[viral mulch]

3055

[bright cape]

is that cap?

i dunno how her atk bonus works

[viral mulch]

should be

[bright cape]

looks like it's flat. but people still go for atk atk atk

[rugged sparrow]

ye

[rugged sparrow]

wot

it's 27% of her atk, so she needs 3k atk to hit 810 atk buff

at least with t13

[viral mulch]

funny how they never increased the X% atk on talent so you just need higher arti investment the more u level q

[lyric cargo]

looking at the cap on her atk buff:

610 at TL 8 → 610 / 0.27 = 2259 atk
690 at TL 10 → 690 / 0.27 = 2555 atk
810 at TL 13 → 810 / 0.27 = 3000 atk

[bright cape]

oh i see. now i understand why it said max

[lyric cargo]

more atk can still be useful if her nightsoul points aren't full

[lyric cargo]

which weapon, btw? or just really good artifacts?

[viral mulch]

skyward spine

[lyric cargo]

I finally gave mine a real build:

ideally it'd be 4pc noblesse with Mav (and Bennett on instructor)

I need her more for theater, though

[sick quarry]

who dps

[lyric cargo]

in abyss, Mavuika. In theater, whoever is available

[bright cape]

is she usable at c0?

[sick quarry]

atleast im a good support

[bright cape]

mine's only c0

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/iansan-is-exercising-kid-genshin-genshin-impact-iansan-x-aether-gif-5680026812563730756

[lyric cargo]

her ER reqs will be higher

[bright cape]

oh then i will wait for a few more copies

[bright cape]

https://tenor.com/view/varesa-genshin-genshin-impact-cow-cowgirl-gif-5336193968028985630

[lyric cargo]

I hope they put her on a rerun banner where I want the 5★ (Mavuika / Chasca / Furina)

[lyric cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874914804349939766/1364490231763435580/grafik.png?ex=6810738e&is=680f220e&hm=337b070c2cdaef3dacb46e4c0141e4d6a775026c5f46c956b2929807cd0c91b8&

[viral mulch]

mm hydro cryo geo

[lyric cargo]

I think I barely got enough chars for 5 teams:

• Ayaka + Escoffier + Furina
• Neuv + Citlali + Venti
• Hutao + Yelan + Candace
• Navia + Xilonen/Kachina
• Kaveh + Xingqiu + Kuki hyperbloom

no Iansan in this one of course

[lyric cargo]

oh, and Hutao would be the loan from a friend

[viral mulch]

i just put my borrows in

i have no borrows left for this season anyway

[quaint fern]

cryo again?????

yummy

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-tired-anime-gif-5495074

[opal surge]

its going to be cryo forever now

genshin is entering the Therta shill era that HSR is in now

[sick quarry]

qiqi new meta

[opal surge]

neverending cryo shill inbound

[lyric cargo]

15 possible 3-element combinations that include cryo
they can do it for over a year, without repetition

[glad lance]

what team i can use?

[lyric cargo]

3 more days and Bennett should be in the shop

[sick quarry]

fak bennet buy amber

[crude snow]

Where'd the co-op help channel go? I get a life for a few months and it's gone.

[rugged sparrow]

merged with here basically

[sick quarry]

no one gets a life. its a illusion

[crude snow]

Is my paycheck an illusion? Damn.

[sick quarry]

let me check it

send me primos

[crude snow]

Nah dawg it has my legal name.

I ain't earned enough to be a sugar daddy.

[sick quarry]

im oki with anything

but thats not what i meant

[crude snow]

I am not sending money, this is all mine to spend teehee.

[sick quarry]

sharing is caring

[crude snow]

I guess I don't care then.

[sick quarry]

you

[crude snow]

Me.

[sick quarry]

you stinkie

[crude snow]

Teehee.

[zinc vapor]

Hello can I please get help on bosses and farming cause I keep dying 😭

[lyric cargo]

which server do you play on? what's your adventure rank?

[zinc vapor]

44 eu

Sorry for late reply I took a nap

[brave scarab]

Can anyone help me farm xilonen boss? EU

50 AR

[forest venture]

👋

[hot spoke]

👋

[dusty cape]

👋

[haughty lotus]

👋

[viral mulch]

👋

[lyric cargo]

I assume it's done, but ping me if it isn't

[lyric cargo]

you as well

[cedar flint]

not all hero’s wear capes

[violet cipher]

is this a good crit ratio if I have MH?

+Furina?

[lyric cargo]

try to take all the buffs into account. Cryo resonance? Any chars buffing crit rate on the team?

[rugged sparrow]

ideally 1:2 (until cr caps at 100%) but it's good enough
might as well post your Enka card too, and what Hidden said

[lyric cargo]

if all buffs are taking into account, aim for a 1:2 crit ratio (or 100% crit rate if your crit dmg is above 200%)

[violet cipher]

ayaka/shenhe so about 92% after resonance and artifact effect I believe. I don't think anyone is buffing crit (shenhe/furina/Charolete)

[rugged sparrow]

do you not have Jean or something else other than Charlotte

[cedar flint]

get cryo chef fr fr

[violet cipher]

jean

[violet cipher]

plan to fr

[cedar flint]

https://tenor.com/view/escoffier-genshin-impact-fontaine-escoffier-genshin-escoffier-ult-gif-3638433478868828052

[rugged sparrow]

just use Jean for now then, 4p VV is huge

[violet cipher]

k

[cedar flint]

unless she is unbuilt

[rugged sparrow]

alternatively Xilonen if you have her

[cedar flint]

leveling her up now won’t make sense if you plan to esco all over the enemies

[rugged sparrow]

it's still an investment for IT

[cedar flint]

Ig

[violet cipher]

no xilo

[rugged sparrow]

unlucky

[cedar flint]

she is not worth the investment as far as I’m concerned

[rugged sparrow]

Xilonen...?

not worth the investment?

[violet cipher]

I mean for me kinda valid.
I got kaz
and Citlali

[viral mulch]

what was not worth was doing chiori solo against seahorse

my guy got 19 million gu on pearl when youre using solo geo

[cedar flint]

I feel like she will be outshined by less generic supports

[violet cipher]

anyway jean is okay, used sac cause fav sword is lv 80 and r 2; well the only free one anyway.

[viral mulch]

u just use both

[hazy lotus]

just wait for 2027 when you start regretting your xilonen

[viral mulch]

fr

[rugged sparrow]

u mean 2030

[viral mulch]

also i mean xilonens just better than kazuha

[rugged sparrow]

why does your pfp look like Firefly

it's not her right cuz ik u dont follow HSR

[viral mulch]

its not but well nowadays everyone with white hair and whatever that head accessory is called is firefly so

just call her one fr

[rugged sparrow]

true

[neon wave]

even if Xilo ends up not being bis in that many teams having the flexibility to use her is pretty huge

Depending on element checks/requirements it's nice to have a flex char

[violet cipher]

I mean yeah fair.
Anyway though I got Citlali, so I don't really need her for Arlechino team
then I got plunge tao with c2 furina
And with previously mentioned stuff I don't really need Xilo for any meta reason.
Unless I want to step on a lego with Mualani team without Mav or something

[rugged sparrow]

plunge tao

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message here's a link to my characters. There's like, one or two teams that need xilonen and they're probably worse anyway than my top 3-4 teams.

[violet cipher]

almost cleared abyss, lost a few seconds against seahorse.

[rugged sparrow]

what even is your "top 3-4 teams"

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

i was gonna say seahorse almost always have a timesave option open by breaking the pearl before it does the big pattern but then you prob have 2 hydro and a hutao so thats prob not gonna work lmao

also plunge tao kinda overrated ngl

[rugged sparrow]

doesn't it average out the same when playing normal Tao, anyway

[viral mulch]

xilonen one should perform better in general considering plunge gameplay moments

[rugged sparrow]

I think I saw a sim of Xianyun on Tao double hydro team

and the rotation is just normal Tao rot

just taking advantage of Xianyun party-wide heal + VV + TTDS

[viral mulch]

and also mald whenever you miss a plunge thanks to its not so big aoe

[rugged sparrow]

no like it does normal n2c

or well n1c and mald with dash icd

[viral mulch]

lmao

[violet cipher]

Imo: Arle melt, Chlorinde aggravate, Chasca, plunge Tao,

[viral mulch]

plunge so bad you just dont plunge with a plunge support fr

[rugged sparrow]

Arle melt and Clor agg bis are with Xilo pretty sure

but anemo works just fine too (or double cryo setup for melt Arle for comfy)

[viral mulch]

i just did this and it was not worth it

[rugged sparrow]

why do you hate yourself

[viral mulch]

who doesnt in 2025

[rugged sparrow]

at least it's not solo hydro 2nd half ig

[viral mulch]

thats like not possible except neuv im pretty sure

or maybe omega giga invested mua

[rugged sparrow]

even with Neuv I somehow doubt it

[viral mulch]

nah ppl succeeded
its just like 7:00 left type stuff as well

[rugged sparrow]

who they putting on 1st half, c6 Mav?

[viral mulch]

yea lmao

[rugged sparrow]

what a surprise

[viral mulch]

[violet cipher]

I’ve been fine with anemo; and I don’t have a good Rosaria set.
Also kinda wrong on the Clorinde- used quickbloom not aggravate cause Furina.

[rugged sparrow]

clear 1st half in 5s so Neuv can take sub 3 mins to clear

[rugged sparrow]

eh there are plenty of options other than Rosa

Layla is goodge

[viral mulch]

i also do believe yae solo this abyss is possible with r5 + a very skilled player
i fulfill neither of those so not me

[violet cipher]

I tried Layla and she felt weird. I don’t remember what, it just felt weird to play.

[rugged sparrow]

top half?

[viral mulch]

press e feels weird yea

[viral mulch]

yea

[rugged sparrow]

doesn't sound too hard

[violet cipher]

Overall sucrose felt the best for whatever reason.

[viral mulch]

its mainly just omegatanky enemy for yae standards

[violet cipher]

Or was faster? I did one of those tests or both when I was deciding.

[rugged sparrow]

Yae fell off fr fr

[viral mulch]

she needs to have a peak to fall off sir

ig pre fontaine yae was considered good

[rugged sparrow]

ye

Fontaine just demolished everything

[viral mulch]

hey theres a alhaitham solo second half this abyss

he uh cleared chamber 3 at 7:07 with first half mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

and chamber 3 is the one where you get the fastest timer

[rugged sparrow]

Alhaiflop

[viral mulch]

typically

[violet cipher]

Ok fair ig, instead of ‘worse’ I should have said only marginally better. In any case I’ve been doing pretty fine without Xilonen. Also, saving for Escoffier and later on Skirk so spending on Xilonen at the moment might be a bad idea.

[rugged sparrow]

ye sure

[viral mulch]

whats the question anyway
"i dont wanna pull xilonen so give me justifications to prove me to myself"

[rugged sparrow]

no the other guy said Xilo isn't worth investing

it all started from there

[viral mulch]

lmao

ppl who say xilonens not worth typically seems to glaze the hell out of kazuha at the same time iirc

[rugged sparrow]

yeah which is funny

[viral mulch]

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message just realized I did the defending the most and I wasn’t even the one who brought it up

[viral mulch]

u wonder theres someone who skips xilonen rn just to go in on inazuma chronicle for kazuha next patch just cus of this reason

[rugged sparrow]

coming from someone who simps Navia, which makes it even

[rugged sparrow]

HAHAHAH

[violet cipher]

Specifically for my account I don’t think Xilonen is worth the investment; definitely yes though for everyone else.

[viral mulch]

hey i mean ppl can have their own favs i dont mind

[rugged sparrow]

it's more like you got diff priorities

but "generic" supps like Furi/Kazu/Xilo always have their worth regardless of acc
unless you're AR10 new players and straight pull for Kaz or Xilo then ig bricked

future investment fr

[viral mulch]

dam my burger delivered with pickle when i told em to dont p

actually nvm i forgor to tell them oops

[rugged sparrow]

pickles are gud

[violet cipher]

Fair, I’m picking Esco over Xilonen cause I wanna get more use out of ShenHe (bought her skin), then I just think Skirk is more interesting.

[violet cipher]

Same

[rugged sparrow]

based tbh

[viral mulch]

skuk

[lyric cargo]

I guess not worth investing in the sense that she gets 99% of her value from just the skill talent (stats matter less for her than for any other char)
easy to build would be a better way to phrase that

if it's about pull value, Xil is a really versatile unit
if you care about always being able to do theater, being an actually good geo unit is a plus
for maxing out a single team, she probably does less than a constellation on, say, Mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

I mean that's what I think too but they said this: #📌gimshim-help message

basically niche supps > Xilo

[cedar flint]

unless the other support is elementphobic

[opal surge]

I was always of the opinion that xilonen was never truly great because she was "bad" at holding scroll but she's still better than most supports so that's a bit silly

[cedar flint]

2025 fr

[opal surge]

She's just a better kazuha and who also provides FS to the best DPS in the game

Which is quite good

[rugged sparrow]

we'll eventually reach a certain point where Furina will be considered "not worth investing"

but that's kinda the thing with gacha + live service game

[opal surge]

Xilonen is the bis for arle mualani neuvilette (mavuika) Tao etc

She's bis for more of the good teams than she isn't bis in

Whether that's not worth investing in is questionable

I even clear faster with her in my clorinde agg team compared to kazuha although admittedly I don't know why

That's one of the few teams where kazuha should be better in

[rugged sparrow]

maybe cuz u dont take 5 business days to setup

[opal surge]

Maybe yeah

[rugged sparrow]

Kaz EpQ is like 5 seconds or smth

[opal surge]

TBF whimsy clorinde does have time in her rotation to spare

[rugged sparrow]

Xilo is just En2 and you hit the griddle

also works on multiwaves which is nice

[opal surge]

Yeah Multiwave is the big thing for sure

[rugged sparrow]

gimme c4 Kirara pls

Nahida is driving me crazy sometimes with multiwaves

[opal surge]

DMC is the way trust

[rugged sparrow]

[cedar flint]

having to use her skill every 2 seconds is indeed annoying

[opal surge]

(if they spawn together kind of)

[rugged sparrow]

if only one of Nahida consts is like

"instantly apply E on enemies within Q range"

or base kit

[opal surge]

If she released in 2025 that would be in her c2

[cedar flint]

turns her mark into a virus that spreads on nearby enemies when a enemy with a mark dies

[rugged sparrow]

we playing plague.inc with this one

[opal surge]

Surely Multiwave spawn one by one

[rugged sparrow]

call it "literacy virus" and have the patients be gacha players