📌gimshim-help

[rugged sparrow]

his burst is eh

[lyric cargo]

I'd only crown talents that have a good contribution to team damage, like Furina skill / burst

[viral mulch]

10 8 6+ should be fine

[bright cape]

damn. i dunno if i should get xilonen then

although we dunno when citlali's rerunning

may be we will get better cryo supports for her before rerun

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/citlali-genshin-natlan-cute-selfie-gif-12165663645363630846

[viral mulch]

doubt it for mavuika assumption
citlalis already quite a broken support

unless we suddenly assume like hsr powercreep level shit even if another cryo support release that char either wont be as good or would just apply in a different archetype

[bright cape]

no need to susge

we know escoffier is cryo

[viral mulch]

as of who to pull just base it on your primo amount and plan the safe way

[bright cape]

the only sad thing is i have been relying on kahcina and normals to fill mauvika's bar

i think i should jump gun on xilonen

[sick quarry]

who even does that. just gamble till u win

[viral mulch]

safest option is wait for livestream that will be during xilonen banner then if no citlali on 5.6 then assume the worst case scenario of citlali being in 5.7 first half

[sick quarry]

hehe

[bright cape]

i see

[viral mulch]

whale

[bright cape]

thanks

[sick quarry]

im f2p

[viral mulch]

proof or lie

[sick quarry]

i only bought a few welkins but im f2p

[viral mulch]

wow look at this whel

[sick quarry]

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen is very versatile, but in Mavuika's team you can use Iansan or Sucrose in that slot

I find her harder to replace in a team like Neuvilette (one can use something like Ororon / Zhongli / Baizhu in that slot, but it doesn't seem as good)

[sick quarry]

what does cat girl do :0

[viral mulch]

meow

[sick quarry]

meow meow

[lyric cargo]

Citlali? Xilonen?

[naive ice]

Citlali is so hype

[lyric cargo]

I guess Xilonen, for a moment there I thought Citlali's name is kinda like cat

[sick quarry]

xilonen

[lyric cargo]

she's a buffer, and she can heal

you're familiar with the buffs Kazuha gives?

[sick quarry]

yh

[lyric cargo]

Kazuha: ~32 dmg% buff
VV artifact set: 40% res shred

Xilonen: 36% res shred
scroll artifact set: 40 dmg% buff

[sick quarry]

ima pull for her then

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen on Mavuika's team loses some value since there is already a scroll holder

[sick quarry]

ill do 1x pulls

cuz im broke

[lyric cargo]

on Neuvilette's team for example, there's no unit that uses scroll anyways

[naive ice]

Can someone explain what Citlali does? I only want her cuz her design and I love cryos

[sick quarry]

good buffs :>

[lyric cargo]

Citlali: 20% pyro and hydro res shred, cryo application for melt
scroll artifact set: 40 dmg% buff

[sick quarry]

im still a nub in genshin even if i have good things

[rugged sparrow]

not if you run both Xilo + Cit in the team too

[lyric cargo]

right, I guess you could run Citlali + Xilonen on Neuv's team
though that means cutting either Kazuha or Furina

[rugged sparrow]

Kazuha ofc

[viral mulch]

btw optimizer told me if i c6r5 mavuika and just steal kinich artifacts she would do like 2m dpr

solo

[rugged sparrow]

do it

[viral mulch]

give me a rerun then

[rugged sparrow]

rob Kinich dead, it's lore accurate

[naive ice]

Oh hype I can take mualani out of retirement

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

they're not even remotely the same unit

[lyric cargo]

Mua actually prefers Xilonen
she wants to trigger vaporize, so she needs pyro aura

[viral mulch]

"i know youre the archon and all but u gotta pay me for breaking my weapon"

[naive ice]

yea I know this???

[rugged sparrow]

oh "take out"
but anyway Mua doesn't want Cit

[naive ice]

Yea I’m not pulling that tigress I’m staying loyal to my leafy boy

[viral mulch]

i love how its extra mald for me cus i dont even get to have a first rot without a fuckin snowstorm around me

[rugged sparrow]

suffering from success moment

[viral mulch]

i forced it through during the tower event

[rugged sparrow]

speaking of tower event

new one coming out on Monday right

[viral mulch]

idk

i know theres one but is it that soon

[rugged sparrow]

999 hp bar

it's on Monday yeah

[naive ice]

When abyss reset

[viral mulch]

cant wait to mald

[lyric cargo]

I think I completely deleted the tower event from my memory

[lyric cargo]

every month:
16th abyss
1st shop + theater

[rugged sparrow]

cant wait to see ppl malding again if another namecard is locked behind final rewards

[naive ice]

lame

[viral mulch]

hey i just played him today

[viral mulch]

im gonna try to kill the 9999 hp entirely
i think its not gonna be plausible at least without c6 mavuika for some stages but ill try for at least a few

[nocturne plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jean-genshin-favonius-wink-cute-gif-4294612774885420546

[old swallow]

Im trying to find puca and the game says she should be ehre but those two are Thirona and Granna, is there anything that triggers her being somewhere else or just not in the map after some point?

I am trying to help the melusines to buff the sword and I was told to help Puca by one of the other melusines but I cant find her anywhere else and the wiki doesnt say anything else either

[neon wave]

try looking here

or look if you have the quest "Strange Stone Chronicle" in your quest log

[old swallow]

Found her ty for the help

[sick quarry]

i dont feel like i can use chev in my varesa team

dont really like it

[opal surge]

o7 varesa

[lyric cargo]

any specific problems?

[sick quarry]

i just dont like the playstyle

[haughty lotus]

One skill is quite mentally and physically taxing

[sick quarry]

real

its not only abt her, but her buff requirments

[opal surge]

I also dislike having to play good varesa teammates

[sick quarry]

real

cant we just spam plunge

[lyric cargo]

having an off-field pyro applier?

[opal surge]

Playing xianyun and actively only plunging is the highway to make sure varesa is actually bad

Xianyun furina is alright but the varesa combo doesn't change

[sick quarry]

yh i need a good pyro applier and i dont really have one. and i feel like my pyro traveler is just dumb

[viral mulch]

ikr cant stand the hideous task of hold e

then swap off

[rugged sparrow]

wdym u dont play the sniping minigame with her c4

[viral mulch]

dps homa chev fr

[rugged sparrow]

real

[viral mulch]

i swapped my chev back to sodp cus theres too many scroll holders now

[rugged sparrow]

idek what I'd run on my Chev

SoDP seems like safest bet just because it doesn't conflict

[viral mulch]

yea just strongbox shitty sodp

[rugged sparrow]

u know I sweat even the supp sets

I won't be satisfied till I hit that 40k

with good ER rolls

[viral mulch]

cheat with dialogue

[rugged sparrow]

it's on Mika

im Favge-ing her

[viral mulch]

id rather fav mika and dialogue chev

[rugged sparrow]

Dialogues Mika funny though

[opal surge]

I have a genuinely good CV sodp set on chevy

[rugged sparrow]

0 ER req

[opal surge]

What farming for navias set in 4.x does rto you

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

the amount of shit ill need for 40k + good er + workable cr for fav chev is too much

[rugged sparrow]

our nutcracker soldier deserves it

[viral mulch]

mine with sodp

[opal surge]

I don't think mine actually has 40k HP but I'll survive without the like 3% attack

[rugged sparrow]

bricked

[neon wave]

should have farmed nighttime smh

[rugged sparrow]

I did and I have like 2p for Navia

[neon wave]

hot

[viral mulch]

fuck

[rugged sparrow]

(I was farming SoDP for Mika)

[viral mulch]

i recorded a whole ahh showcase video with this

[neon wave]

[viral mulch]

i might just strip kokomi off and give totm to baizhu

[opal surge]

Preparing Mika for when he inevitably becomes the dedicated varka support because of lore reasons

[viral mulch]

its okay ish i guess with c2

[neon wave]

surely

[viral mulch]

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

my Navia on 4p GT

dont tell Sensi

[opal surge]

I've seen it

[rugged sparrow]

hi

[viral mulch]

based

[opal surge]

It's some demon 170 er gt navias build isn't it

[neon wave]

isok my chiori is on GT

[rugged sparrow]

yeah

[neon wave]

don't tell void

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

if it's not 300cv he'll trash your Chiori

"URE NOT EVEN USING HER BIS AND SHE'S NOT EVEN 300CV? PATHETIC"

and then spits on you

[neon wave]

sounds in character

[rugged sparrow]

I'm speaking from experience

I swapped my Chiori to 4p GT for 5s to see her ranking in akasha and void chokeslammed me

[viral mulch]

💀

i am not recommending husk farming for non c6 chioris

[rugged sparrow]

I have leftovers from Itto anyway

it's just funny that Chiori LB in akasha only assumes burst every other rot

really favors GT

[viral mulch]

gt more efficient

[rugged sparrow]

says the one who camps at MH for months to no end
(me too)

[viral mulch]

ok idk what im supposed to do for baizhu

[rugged sparrow]

I just dont have the heard to rob Albedo dead

[viral mulch]

i guess ill just take kokomis totm and make rainbow kokomi

[rugged sparrow]

rough

[viral mulch]

actually no they dont even share mainstats

[rugged sparrow]

HB circlet moment

[viral mulch]

shes like er hp hb yea

[rugged sparrow]

ER sands Kok

is this some leftovers shenanigans

[viral mulch]

hey burst is important to swap off immediately

no its deliberate choice

[rugged sparrow]

when's the last time u even use Kok

[viral mulch]

uh

theater

[rugged sparrow]

true...

[viral mulch]

if i had r5 evenstar id go full em on baizhu

i guess r1 is still more beneficial than no buff

but then i dont have full em totm

[rugged sparrow]

where's your r5 Starcaller

[viral mulch]

he doesnt even make a shield for me

[rugged sparrow]

do u not have him c6

I forgor

[viral mulch]

c2

[rugged sparrow]

time to c6 and r5 Starcaller

[viral mulch]

ew

[haughty lotus]

Bricked

[viral mulch]

ok i fixed it

only took a little bricking of strongboxing a lil with +4s

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

i got this in midway lmfao

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

i would give kuki but she has way too cracked of an offpiece so

[bright cape]

what's ur uid?

[viral mulch]

why

[bright cape]

wanted to see ur cracked builds

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/913018237783003136/1222581471173279914/Kokomi_Sip.gif

[viral mulch]

its not cracked

im kind of a horizontal investment guy

[bright cape]

u got c6 arle. dunno how that's horizontal

[viral mulch]

in artifacts

[bright cape]

oh i see

[viral mulch]

i barely update it so

youre lucky i was just updating it for checking something

[bright cape]

thanks

that's cracked arle

52 cv

[viral mulch]

the scam piece

[bright cape]

xilonen surprised me more

[viral mulch]

yea my xilo actually does dmg so had to care for it

[viral mulch]

theres a lot more chars that i didnt put in akasha cus i cant be bothered lmao

so welp

[bright cape]

i hope akasha can sync with battle chronicle

[viral mulch]

i normally dont care about akasha aside from some random curiosity spikes

[valid anchor]

no. Battle Chronicle uses sensitive data which cannot be publicly accessed outside HYV servers.

[bright cape]

current battle chronicle cards are not that bad

they are almost like enka

[valid anchor]

HYV wants people to use official tools instead of third party like Akasha/Enka

that's why even the hoyowiki is getting a nice reshape.

[viral mulch]

peak gameplay

[rugged sparrow]

c6 moment

[dusk mica]

could iansan be ran with chasca or is bennett better? i'd imagine iansan isn't ideal because she would give chasca electro bullets

[valid anchor]

Iansan can run with almost any Natlan character.
Chasca same, except Geo.

Iansan gives Chasca Electro Bullets + ATK boost via her skill/burst. And a small heal.

[sick quarry]

how is she soloing it

i can barely do it with my second team

[sick quarry]

Can citali be in a in non freeze and melt teams? If so, what kind of teams?

[valid anchor]

yes, but her performance may be a bit... underwhelming.

[sterile ruin]

on field charlotte build? i just wanna use her in coop and be like snapping ppl in battle

[quaint fern]

Just build her healer as per usual ig

[strange scarab]

What are you even gonna use her for

[neon harness]

Ba

[quaint fern]

Ta

[neon harness]

Om

[strange scarab]

Bu

[sick quarry]

I explain it the best I can from my friend. He wants to use Citali. He isn't sure if Citali is only limited when it comes to just frozen and melt teams. He already got Gaming and he will get Varesa. He isn't sure if he should aim for Citali or Baizhu. His ability is in that description btw. He does think Xiolenen maybe best since she does shred. Rn he is using Gaming, Chevresuse, Fischl, and Benny. He did get Tighnari and he wants to do a arrevgate team on him. For Varesa he wants to replace Gaming with her.

[strange scarab]

I know what baizhu does hes been out for like a year

[sick quarry]

yeah...idk he is worth the pull?

[strange scarab]

The thing is cryo comps are literally limited to those two so whats the point pulling her if theyre not gonna run her for that

Superconduct is shit cryo doesnt react with dendro and she cant even proc scroll buff for geo or anemo

If they want to improve their gaming team then shes best for him

[sick quarry]

fair

[strange scarab]

And its not like you even mention a single char hes pulling baizhu for

[neon harness]

https://i.redd.it/q9grf21dj7ie1.gif

[sick quarry]

He wants to use tighnari for him.

[strange scarab]

tighnari doesnt need him

[neon harness]

Tighnari doesn’t need a shielder, better off investing into a nahida if he wants to use dendro

[sick quarry]

Ty

[strange scarab]

Really odd asking if citlali is limited to melt and freeze only and yet the only team he wants to optimize are gaming and tig

[sick quarry]

Yeah ig

[haughty lotus]

That’s my gif, you have to pay royalties btw

[sick quarry]

Does he need nahida if he is doing aggravate? Nahida would be more if you wabted a bit more spread.

[haughty lotus]

He can’t do aggravate, that’s for electro characters. Doesn’t make a difference anyways

[sick quarry]

ty for the convo

[covert forge]

Should I use 4 elixirs on goblet (hydro DMG)

[bright cape]

it's weird they didn't allow cryo to not react with dendro

was cryo that cracked back then?

[strange scarab]

How does cryo not reacting to dendro means it was cracked

[bright cape]

i thought dendro buffed electro a lot

by creatiing exclusive reactions like hyperbloom

[strange scarab]

How does that implies cryo was cracked back then

[bright cape]

i thuoght giving cryo more options would create imbalance or something

it's just a guess

[quaint fern]

Genshin has always been pyro impact

[bright cape]

pryo n hydro

gotta give it to genshin though. they have created character to fulfill many reaction n playstyles

[strange scarab]

Can you come up with what would happen between ice and plant then

[viral mulch]

fresh veggies

[bright cape]

dendro insects

n unlike dendro cores, they do small damage

but hit more targets not just 2 hyperblooms at a time

[viral mulch]

thats just normal bloom

[strange scarab]

See not even you can come up with a good reaction

[bright cape]

normal bloom is aoe

[viral mulch]

u cant rly make it a unique action when its pretty much just
bloom
bloom but single target
bloom but bigger aoe
and now bloom but exactly 2 targets

[bright cape]

ok. hear me
what if it was a reaction that slowed enemies down

[viral mulch]

thats just cryo application

[strange scarab]

So just cryo

[bright cape]

does cryo slow enemies down?

[viral mulch]

[bright cape]

i don't have a lot of cryo characters

i didn't know they do that

[viral mulch]

u know youre slower when you have cryo
same for enemies

i dont like it cus it messes up dodge timings

[bright cape]

i just gave a few options. it doesn't have to be good

as i guessed cryo was already strong pre dendro

i was thinking of some variation of dot. but that already is covered by burning to some extent

cold burn would be nice variant

frostbite

[strange scarab]

it wasnt good

There were less unfreezable enemies back then

there wasnt 300% hp inflation back then

there wasnt much choice back then

[bright cape]

do we have any type of damage left now?

they even covered plunging very deeply with xianyun and varesa now

[bright cape]

what if cryo + dendro made physical buffed

just like hydro+dendro did to electro

[strange scarab]

Wow i wonder if they have made a reaction specifically to buff physical yet

how original

[bright cape]

but it's not direct like superconduct

[haughty lotus]

Chopped salad

[neon harness]

Shelf

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-jonah-gif-15461738203592622393

[neon harness]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hsr-honkai-star-rail-ok-gif-3199153402597724969

[haughty lotus]

Same

[sage sail]

any capitano copium addicts here?

[dusty cape]

[sage sail]

wow ig it died out then

i just want a dps with a fun playstyle... it feels like it's been a while since they've released a fun dps

neuvi and navia come to mind but the others feel a bit clunky after 5.0 minus mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

(and this is why "fun" is subjective)

[sage sail]

mualani can miss, though they did mitigate the issue, kinich's dps can vary depending on rng and reaction time, chasca's teams are quite limiting, and plunge isn't my style

tighnari is fun to play so maybe i should build him...

[viral mulch]

so your fun is just braindead playstyle

[viral mulch]

i just did shark
NEED A SURFBOARD?!?!?!?

[rugged sparrow]

🦈

having to use XL cuz of Cit

cant escape oppa

[viral mulch]

chamber 3 was sadge

[rugged sparrow]

is ult worse dmg

[viral mulch]

sometimes its better sometimes its not idk why

it wasnt for this case

[rugged sparrow]

[vapid egret]

what are good supports for chasca that are not furina or xilonen?

[rugged sparrow]

Citlali, Bennett

[vapid egret]

Okay if I don't have citlalI?

[rugged sparrow]

what do you have, at this point

there's Layla and Barbara

[vapid egret]

Yeah my pulling habits are ass I don't have any of the good supports.

[rugged sparrow]

I can tell

[vapid egret]

the best support I have is fuckin kazuha

[rugged sparrow]

well it's really just Bennett + 2 (ideally different element too unless c1? or c2 Chasca)

[vapid egret]

Ah crud alright guess I'd better save for xilonen cuz my dumbass decided to goof around and get xianyun

[rugged sparrow]

Barb has TTDS + c2
Layla has c4 buff and provides totm buff + shield for comfy
Ororon exists for Cinder buff, not sure if Chasca can maintain Iansan buff

[vapid egret]

oop my layla is only c2

Also if I wanted to build a dps nilou what artifacts should I get

[rugged sparrow]

"DPS" Nilou in what sense

pre-c6 she's just a "support" that enables pure bloom teams

you stack HP on her till you hit the cap (74,444 HP) and some EM/ER here and there

[vapid egret]

hydro dps

[rugged sparrow]

is she c6

[vapid egret]

no

[rugged sparrow]

then this

[vapid egret]

yeah that was a terrible idea

does alhaitham work in a nilou bloom team?

[rugged sparrow]

he works sure due to his good dendro app but it's kinda a waste of his potential

[vapid egret]

oh what's a better team for him?

[rugged sparrow]

spread/quickbloom
general setup is haitham/2nd dendro/off-field electro/+1

[vapid egret]

soo Alhaitham baizhu Fischl and somethign else?

[rugged sparrow]

ye

maybe Iansan can work if u just dash cancel with haitham combos but

[vapid egret]

hookay

[rugged sparrow]

dont have haitham to try so just slot in smth else

[vapid egret]

also does xiao work for the current second half of spiral abyss? Xiao Bennett Faruzan xianyun

[rugged sparrow]

yes

not having Furina in 2025 though

[vapid egret]

I have lost my 50/50 for furina 3 times

[lyric cargo]

I think Chasca plays kinda similar to Neuv
holding down mouse button
she's kinda single target locked, but I wouldn't mind getting her

I think Varesa looks fun, but she probably doesn't have much QoL?
Her main selling point is her damage numbers are still good by today's standards
but power creep will continue
I have more confidence in someone like Neuv staying relevant, who has good AoE and QoL

[sage sail]

yeah, they really missed an opportunity by making chasca single target. not a lot of characters have great aoe without xianyun or a grouping support

[lyric cargo]

it's funny since her talent is called multitarget fire
I guess it is multi target in overworld, where enemies die in one hit

[lyric cargo]

Xianyun was a bit of a regret pull for me
she was never really "meta"
her synergy with Furina seemed promising
but Neuvilette's Furina teams were just better

now there are Citlali Xianyun teams, it's no longer tied to Furina
but same thing, Mavuika's Citlali teams are better

[sage sail]

yeah, she's gotten overshadowed by xilonen in hu tao teams too. if xilonen didn't exist, i would've pulled for her rerun

[lyric cargo]

the one thing my c1 Xianyun did for me was save my overworld enjoyment at the time
but Mavuika is better at that as well

Mav's flying goes further than a Xy triple jump
and she's actually good in combat

[naive ice]

Yea well xianyun isn’t meant to be a dps

so yk there’s that

[lyric cargo]

what I meant was

Xy exploration teams with like.. Gaming / Diluc
were worse for overworld combat than Mavuika teams, and also worse in exploration

[naive ice]

Oh

[west ridge]

Uhhh I play on ps4 and one of the shortcut wheels just disappeared🤨 I can't use the treasure compass

[strange scarab]

L1 + Circle but dont hold L1 for too long

Yeah its stupid adjustment

[west ridge]

Okay that works but how do I switch between the gadgets when the wheel doesn't exists?

[strange scarab]

hold both button

[west ridge]

Oooh

[valid anchor]

Xbox and PlayStation controller overlay changed starting this version. That's why the sub wheel is no more.

That change is also reflected on Cloud, iOS and Android versions, as long you're using a controller.

[lyric cargo]

in co-op, if two players use Bennett burst in the same location
do the buffs stack?

[viral mulch]

no

[lyric cargo]

ah, rip

[bright cape]

whose buff is received?

the one who bursts last?

[sick quarry]

most probably

[tacit ravine]

can anyone help me build a team with these?

[quaint fern]

Chev fischl gaming iansan

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[keen willow]

Skirk farming going great

[quaint fern]

Alternatively, something with Furina gaming iansan, and maybe sucrose as a flex

[keen willow]

Gaming is never getting his burst

[quaint fern]

Def SURELY

[quaint fern]

No Bennett 🥹

Also I forgot it's not c4

Okay yeah buddy just go gaming OL

Or yk

Favge

[keen willow]

Triple fav with jean

[foggy phoenix]

does leveling up alrecchino's skill and burst actually do anything except skill/burst dmg

also are these 2 teams good enough for this abyss

or should i do something like neuvillete hyperbloom for first half

[rugged sparrow]

no, yes, and no

if you have Ororon / Citlali / Xilonen instead of XL it'd be a better team though

[lyric cargo]

(doesn't the current event give ororon? he won't be leveled, though)

[rugged sparrow]

it does ye

[foggy phoenix]

i do have ororon but he isnt built and i dont plan on building him bc id have to spend a bunch of resin on a domain only 1 chcracer i have can use

if i do get xilonon id def build him

[rugged sparrow]

well as long as it clears

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably build him for theater, unless you easily have enough electro chars
scroll holders are nice for theater imo, as they do a lot (40 dmg%) with very little investment

[keen condor]

I’m running kinich nahida iansan bennet should i have nahida on the burning set or deep wood

[haughty lotus]

You shouldn’t have nahida

Put an off field pyro with deepwood

[keen condor]

The issue with that is iansan won’t be able to trigger scroll without dendro app

And to apply dendro at the start of the rotation I need to burst with kinich at the beginning of each rotation which is hard cuz I need high er on kinich

[viral mulch]

burning cuts off

[lyric cargo]

would it be possible to open the first rotation with burst
and start each future rotation with leftover dendro

problem might be if you clear a chamber in one rotation
but maybe that's an edge case where you can do without the scroll buff next chamber first rotation

[viral mulch]

it just works fr

[lyric cargo]

what's that, c6?

I guess modern day cons are stronger, maybe it's c2 r1

[sick quarry]

huh didnt u say ur f2p? 💔

[bright cape]

he is the only whale i know here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1307177861894897817/1083056043526979714.gif

[forest venture]

no u

[haughty lotus]

It’s just good artifacts and lucky abyss cards

[weary harness]

suggestions for team1?

[strange scarab]

False...

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[midnight herald]

I reached ar45 so now should I spend all my fragile resin farming artifacts

[bright cape]

is iansan good at c0?

[elder bluff]

usable, not good

[wicked ivy]

ok so i lost 50/50 and currently need a natlan support
do i try to roll for c2 iansan and risk getting varesa/xianyun or just wait until xilonen next week

[strange scarab]

Roll for c2 xilonen

[naive ice]

A solution to this my soldier is Emilie

pull the perfume lady and all your issues disappear

Dendro for scroll set + you don’t have to waste ur kinich burst uptime

and look at that er problems are mostly taken care of with her

[viral mulch]

@rugged sparrow

[strange scarab]

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[viral mulch]

it was quite mald

tralalelo tralala vs bombardino crocodilo

[rugged sparrow]

[rugged sparrow]

@viral mulch did you happen to use Chasca in today's event

[viral mulch]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

2s remaining?

someone forwarded ur vid and I happened to stumble on it

[viral mulch]

how do u know that i didnt tell u

wtf where

[rugged sparrow]

SEACord

[viral mulch]

uh

[rugged sparrow]

I saw the black bar on UID and the ping and was like

"huh"

[viral mulch]

hang on im joining there

[rugged sparrow]

it's on ID chat

lemme send u invite

[viral mulch]

spiked my interest

[rugged sparrow]

buh cant send invite

[viral mulch]

is it private server

[rugged sparrow]

it is not

[viral mulch]

well that was funni sight lol

[rugged sparrow]

[visual sandal]

yo guys which character loves drinking and is looking for their nephew??

[cedar flint]

citlali?

[lyric cargo]

this should be all the pyroculi available so far, right?

[neon wave]

yes

[pallid leaf]

would exploring natlan or archon quests be faster for getting primos?

[rugged sparrow]

explo

quests in general don't give a lot of primos
exceptions are like quests that locks regions

[dire anvil]

is it just me or have the drops in the new artifact domain been shite lately 💀 does the new plunge set really matter when it comes to varesa because im thinking ab giving up here

[crude dirge]

all artifact domains give shit
difference is like less than 5% (idk) so u can use obsidian

[dire anvil]

thank god

[strange scarab]

All domains have the same drop rates havent changed since game release

[fringe shadow]

guys in the new quest where you get the ending thing, is it only for the event or permanent? i cant do the event rn bc of exams 🙏

[opal surge]

If you mean the saurian quest then it's permanent

[lyric cargo]

always takes months to get a full set of decent pieces

[lyric cargo]

which one do you mean? this one had 7 days remaining yesterday

(I finished it now, so I can't check)

[misty void]

? Mines at lvl 8 20/38 I was asking myself the same question

[strange scarab]

They have 8 with 30 left as shown in the picture

[misty void]

Is that all tho?

[fringe shadow]

the one with huitzilopochtli

[strange scarab]

Someone else literally confirmed it below the message you replied to

[misty void]

Ok

[still moth]

Should i use this artifact to upgrade my other atifacts or no? Idk if the 15.9 critrate is good or not (its for Mavuika)

[neon wave]

depends on what alternative you have, the ER is dead for mavu but that's still a pretty good piece, and would be a great piece on anyone that can actually use the ER

I wouldn't feed it personally

[fiery wigeon]

What's the difference between a hp and hydro damage bonus goblet on neuvilette 1:1 sub stats?

[haughty lotus]

Depends on your setup, optimiza

[fiery wigeon]

How's about him with furina with fichl and kazabruh

[bright cape]

do u have run video?

[viral mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340991720250277933/1358676642028847267/103.mp4?ex=67f4b5ba&is=67f3643a&hm=04812627ead2adc5fd502a862abf3924ffe3746b561be5bd0caddff21b0a0aaf&

[bright cape]

thanks

[bright cape]

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-absolute-cinema-cinema-peak-cinema-this-is-cinema-gif-17343309077373764141

[cedar flint]

I like the use of jotaro theme

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-ora-jotaro-jojo-jjba-gif-16331943

[haughty lotus]

save it for the wrio runs smh

[viral mulch]

oraoraora

[viral mulch]

did that a couple times already

[neon harness]

🐳

[haughty lotus]

That srimp could NEVER ball like that

[neon harness]

💔

[forest venture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1083056043526979714.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[viral mulch]

bombardino crocodilo

[pallid leaf]

how long does ancient sacred mountain take?

[supple glen]

What's the best team for Itto? including cons up to C2

[lyric cargo]

might be Furina Yelan Xilonen. I'm not sure what his constellations do / change about that

[supple glen]

I'm talking about cons for the characters in his team

like if xilonen is worse than another option unless she's c2

[lyric cargo]

c2 Xil enables mono geo
I'm not sure how it compares

[viral mulch]

with double hydro you keep xilonen cus theyre the one doing dmg and ittos the one who needs to be replaced here

[rugged sparrow]

pretty sure it's just Itto/Furina/Xilo/Chiori or Gorou
u dont run Yelan cuz Itto hardly does NA

[viral mulch]

unironically bros ca is gonna be a dps loss

[rugged sparrow]

(also it assumes c2 Xilo so)

[lyric cargo]

I'm morbidly curious about Itto Bennett Citlali Mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

(it's not really an Itto team though)

[viral mulch]

replace itto for xilo then its good

[rugged sparrow]

^

[lyric cargo]

instructor Itto, surely

[viral mulch]

inspector

[rugged sparrow]

gadget

[lyric cargo]

how did that one slip past

[viral mulch]

do u remember the old days where combat events always had a geo shill stage when the only geo dps was itto

[rugged sparrow]

that twin vishap was my core memory

them and their hills

[viral mulch]

ig not mine cus i dont rember

[rugged sparrow]

from the same event I can tell ur core memory though

90% cr Mika Fav not critting 3x in a row

xdd

[viral mulch]

oh

🐊 💣

[rugged sparrow]

🐊 💣

[viral mulch]

🦈 👟

from 2.x where abyss was either kenki or pma or both

into 3.x where abyss was asimon

into 4.x where abyss was coppelius

idk what 5.x is atp

[rugged sparrow]

fat fuck

[viral mulch]

fat guy appeared twice

papilla also appeared twice

[rugged sparrow]

fat fuck > papilla

dont make papilla or tripod appear again pls

[viral mulch]

inb4 lava jumpscare

[rugged sparrow]

I havent fought it actually

maybe I should

do I just bombard it with pyro

[viral mulch]

pretty much yea

[rugged sparrow]

Klee ure up

[viral mulch]

it has a little too much hp for a gimmick like that is my complaint

compared to qucusaur that guy has like double? triple? the hp

and both have bs gimmick

[rugged sparrow]

I got an achievement

cool ig

[viral mulch]

lava

[rugged sparrow]

is there an achievement by feeding it cryo/hydro

[viral mulch]

no

[rugged sparrow]

lame

[viral mulch]

that boss is quite lame

[rugged sparrow]

idk what it does since I just assblasted it with pyro

[lyric cargo]

was letting someone farm it in my world since ar55+ can join ar58+ now
did not expect its weakness to be pyro of all things

[viral mulch]

you have to fill the progress bar with pyro is what you actually need technically

each hit of hydro or cryo removes the progress by 20%

[lyric cargo]

and avoid hyro / cryo

[viral mulch]

or in other words you cant use them which fucking sucks when the boss has more hp than fat fuck

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

the only saving grace is the attack patterns are like extremely easy

other than that everything is bs

[rugged sparrow]

speaking of

we have 2 pyro-favoring bosses 2 days back to back huh

[viral mulch]

grass lava grass

[rugged sparrow]

Jadeplume is more of electro no

unless shit RNG

and it just dashes 10 km

[viral mulch]

its intended to be yea but kinda annoying cus 2/3 bad rng

[rugged sparrow]

me when I see Jadeplume starts dashing

[viral mulch]

could u imagine chicken being an electro shill stage so you have to evade shit rng for whole 150s

[rugged sparrow]

ig u can argue there's Clorinde that doesnt really care abt the RNG

[viral mulch]

clorinde will also not have much damage

[rugged sparrow]

xdd

[viral mulch]

welp fat fuck soon

[rugged sparrow]

am just happy if I can get 900 somehow

[viral mulch]

900 doesnt look too bad tbh

isnt it just like what 15m in 150s

[rugged sparrow]

not sure

[viral mulch]

genshin should just show the exact hp number on boss bar tbh

doesnt zzz do that or smth

[rugged sparrow]

nop

[viral mulch]

dam

skill?damage?

[rugged sparrow]

who's 2nd even supposed to be for...

[viral mulch]

i have literally no idea

[rugged sparrow]

is this lowkey forcing vape with Furina

[viral mulch]

aw hell nah

[rugged sparrow]

I can make it work with Klee ig???

[viral mulch]

jumpty dumpty

also 45% free cr

[rugged sparrow]

???

[viral mulch]

sounds like a nightmare to optimize

[viral mulch]

yea im so confused

is raiden just for first buff phase lol

idk lemme do buff phase first then think
get this out of the way

[rugged sparrow]

what food do I even eat, Adeptus?

all of this cr

[viral mulch]

dont ask me im also confused af

[rugged sparrow]

does fat fuck have dendro res

I have an idea but

[viral mulch]

yea

[rugged sparrow]

if he has dendro res then maybe not xdd

was thinking of Kinich Furina

[viral mulch]

i guess i wouldnt be using varesa so ill spam q on first half with her

[rugged sparrow]

I forgot how often this guy moves

but goal reached so time to dip

[supple glen]

bro i just saw a c6r5 mavuika team do 9999x

and they still had 1 whole minute left lol

[viral mulch]

bro this mf is burning from my burning and removing my cryo

[rugged sparrow]

who u running

[viral mulch]

trying arle rn

[rugged sparrow]

ic

[viral mulch]

yea the melt aura is too unreliable

[rugged sparrow]

can't escape Furina

[viral mulch]

citlali buff is too good to miss out on

idk whats gonna happen if i run both

[rugged sparrow]

good question

one way to find out

[viral mulch]

yea the result is no damage

eeeee

[rugged sparrow]

hm

yeah the buffs are weirdge if u wanna greed

[strange raft]

What's a good chasca team? Thinking of running a mono element team, but I'll take whatever

[celest gate]

Is the new set worth farming for Xiao if I don't have mh or Vermillion?? The pins doesn't give a clear answer so I'm asking here 🙂‍↕️.

My Xiao is C1 if that makes any difference

I have the meta team as well

[neon harness]

Furina xianyun faruzan?

[neon harness]

If this team, stick with mh

Benny xianyun combo goes new set

[celest gate]

Yes and thanks

It's like barley worth it

[broken vault]

havent played genshin in a bit
are these teams still able to 36 stars abyss

(nahida is c1 and raiden is c2)

[quaint fern]

is the third buff punishing players who actually bother to build enough CR

nice one hoyo

I cant wait to have 140 CR

[haughty lotus]

Farm new set when

[strange scarab]

When i meet you in the summer

[haughty lotus]

Wenomechainasama*

[dusty cape]

https://tenor.com/view/wenomechainsama-nivar-lllll10-gif-25746616

[haughty lotus]

Tsumlarbisaum

[forest venture]

🧐

[pearl dew]

Guys how do u open this thing in the latest liyue but

[strange scarab]

Many seals like these have different solution which one is this

[valid anchor]

There are some adeptic puzzles to be solved there

[dusty cape]

where da hell is it

[valid anchor]

Liyue's most NW area, Chenyu Valley

[pearl dew]

Bit

Here

[dusty cape]

obviously lmao there’s multiple of these puzzles smh

[valid anchor]

Around a hundred

[pearl dew]

DAMN

[valid anchor]

Chenyu Valley puzzles needs some brain, and mine is on energy saver mode right now

[pearl dew]

Oof but I need the rocks for xianyun

[valid anchor]

It should be some adeptic puzzles nearby, depending on the seals in that door. Usually just one, but some requires more.

[strange scarab]

Theres gonna be a fish launcher on a small pond near that barrier

[pearl dew]

There is this thing

Do I need it?

I tried shooting myself at it but didn’t work

Okay!

[strange scarab]

oh wait

Should be this one

[bright cape]

yes

but it depends on the enemies

[pearl dew]

No that’s one u gave me the first time was right it opened!!

Thank you

[neon harness]

Fund my will to play the game and I’ll farm the set

Ngl I forgot they even added a new set

[haughty lotus]

aint norway

[dusty cape]

so true

[spare crest]

Anyone have Veresa and Iansan materials i can have? ☝️🤓

[quaint fern]

I was excited and then I remember wait ER is a dead stat on this set huh?

[rugged sparrow]

unless u run 2p2p cryo on someone else ig

[cedar flint]

or a off piece

[sick quarry]

What is the team rotations for Ororon, Neu, Furina, and Kazuha?

Is for the papalia.

[neon wave]

Neuvillette E > Furina ED > Ororon EQ > Kazuha tEPQ > Furina Q > Neuvillette C E C Q > Kazuha tEP > Neuvillette 2C

can skip Furi Q until shield is down idk how long it'd take

[rugged sparrow]

im not even sure if that team can bring down Papilla shield

Neuv hit count is pretty piss poor

[lyric cargo]

I know Ororon is good at it. not sure about the team as a whole

[elder bluff]

It suggests that crit rate should be increased more

[strange scarab]

Whel

[lyric cargo]

all my strongbox fodder goes to a set that's useful on exactly one char now

[elder bluff]

So you are building arle or clorinde

or Emilie?

[lyric cargo]

Navia

[lyric cargo]

I don't have any of these three

[elder bluff]

Oh ok

[lyric cargo]

she's on that weapon right now since she shares with two other chars..

can use either ultimate overlord's (shared with Beidou), or Mavuika's sig

[elder bluff]

I wish i had a circlet like that

[lyric cargo]

it's 2pc 2pc though

gotta get either an on-set goblet or circlet

[cedar flint]

why lvl 0 sands

[lyric cargo]

maybe I'll craft a goblet, since it's kinda inefficient to strongbox her set which only she can use
compared to noblesse, which is used by a bunch of chars

[lyric cargo]

until I have 4 pieces, I'm not levelling any
could still get a better sands, and not have to level this one

[cedar flint]

and the lvl 16 flower and feather?

well flower I can see why

[opal surge]

they were probably rolled until the first roll missed

given that they have 1 missed roll each

[lyric cargo]

the plume had to roll perfectly to meet my standards (7 useful subs)

flower could still meet that, but no double crit

I might +20 them if I'm otherwise done and haven't gotten better

[cedar flint]

high standards

[lyric cargo]

I should probably lower my standards for a char like that, who I rarely use

yeah

[lyric cargo]

I usually want 7 useful subs on flower / plume and 5 for other pieces

[cedar flint]

7-8 is not leaving the mines until time will stop making sense anymore

[opal surge]

I think for flowers and feathers 7 is pretty reasonable

its a 4 liner with a missed rolla nd one bad substat for example

its not that uncommon

[lyric cargo]

it's kinda what I found to be realistic, with the time I end up farming
but I'll want to be done sooner with this set I think

[cedar flint]

I will take a flower with double crit and 2 bad substats if it means it rolls crit mostly

[opal surge]

cv chaser

most of my good builds are like 200-215 cv range

all my 240+ cv builds actually suck

comparatively

[cedar flint]

I don’t think I usually reach more

[lyric cargo]

if it's on-set, maybe I'd consider it
crit is slightly better than other stats, usually

[opal surge]

my only high cv build thats actually good is my furina ig

[rugged sparrow]

cant rly do anything when ur only useful sub is cr and cdmg only

[cedar flint]

ye

my only high crit value build is ganyu

[sick quarry]

wild

[opal surge]

my only good cv build

although this is not what my furina is on nowadays

fav tom furina >>>

[sick quarry]

woah

[cedar flint]

festering desire >

[opal surge]

[lyric cargo]

my highest cv build

[rugged sparrow]

hey we have same amount of rolls but I have higher RV

[sick quarry]

my lvl 65 varesa has 204% dmg and 70% rate

[cedar flint]

so ye this is my highest cv build

[opal surge]

I can go one more roll

[rugged sparrow]

nice now we have the same RV

[opal surge]

what the

[lyric cargo]

oh, wrong plume. anyways

[strange scarab]

These whales

[cedar flint]

my furina build is alright

[opal surge]

actually my rv with one less roll

smoge

[rugged sparrow]

that circlet and sands could've been better

1 dead roll each

[lyric cargo]

one day an atk scaler will steal the circlet
then it's back to the mines

[rugged sparrow]

whose circlet

[sick quarry]

help meh

[lyric cargo]

the one you were talking about, 3 crit rolls + 1 atk%

[rugged sparrow]

eh I'm talking about my own Furina circlet

it rolled into flat def once

[lyric cargo]

crit rate is very low, check what crit rate circlets you have

goblet would be better with pyro dmg% main stat

sands is not very good I think, you want to avoid bursting if possible? (I'm not an Arlecchino main)

[lyric cargo]

oh ^^

passes my standards, though

[sick quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/hazawa-tsugumi-bang-dream-bandori-garupa-pico-garupa-pico-fever-gif-24989874

[lyric cargo]

here's mine, on low ER vs a bit higher

[lyric cargo]

wait, talent level 8?

isn't her contribution high enough to level it higher

[cedar flint]

Look at her level

[lyric cargo]

oh, she's 80/80

[cedar flint]

I pushing it off

lazy

also I’m farming varesa domain rn

[lyric cargo]

will get some crit from ascension as well I suppose

and more hp

[cedar flint]

she will over cap on crit by a bit if I do that ik

but I’m just being lazy about boss farming

that’s why she is lvl 60

[lyric cargo]

c5, nice

I did 73 pulls, only got c1

[cedar flint]

I did around 170

maybe a bit less

since I pulled varesa and cloud

c6 I will probably get from some event in the near future

[lyric cargo]

I'm not even levelling an atk% circlet for now

the buff cap without TL 13 isn't high enough to need it
610 at TL 8 → 610 / 0.27 = 2259 atk
690 at TL 10 → 690 / 0.27 = 2555 atk
810 at TL 13 → 810 / 0.27 = 3000 atk

[cedar flint]

sands and goblet are enough either way

[opal surge]

Ur unser though

Weapon doesn't have full uptime no

I would disregard weapon passive

[cedar flint]

12 second burst weapon is 10 sec

[opal surge]

It's 15s at c6

[lyric cargo]

yeah
I'm hoping she'll be on a rerun banner for a char I want constellations on (Mavuika/Citlali/Furina)

[opal surge]

12s is bad that's why her C6 is good

[cedar flint]

besides with pyro resonance and chev and tenacity I still reach it

no need to go all in on attack

[opal surge]

Yeah because she has so many other useful stats

(she has none)

[cedar flint]

crit is fun if she can crit for 20k I will take it

[lyric cargo]

at least in Mavuika's team, you want to set up Iansan first I think
so long uptime is very beneficial

Iansan → Bennett → Citlali

[cedar flint]

I set up iansan last in my varesa team so it doesn’t matter as much

since chev up time is practically infinite and pyro traveler last long enough

[opal surge]

Okay but this isn't about Ur iansan is it

[cedar flint]

I just shared her other team situations

[opal surge]

I'm talking to hidden who doesn't play varesa and who has an unleveled atk% piece

[cedar flint]

doenst she need like 3k attack at best?

[opal surge]

Yes

[cedar flint]

I don’t see how he wouldn’t have it up with pyro resonance and stuff either way

[opal surge]

I'm gonna snap

What other stuff

[cedar flint]

well if she uses scrolls I would assume bennet run noblesse and idk what set citlali has

should be around 3k attack

[opal surge]

It's 2780

[cedar flint]

with pyro ress and noblesse combined?

[opal surge]

Yes

With an attack circlet it's just barely capped

It's 3040

[cedar flint]

so he misses on 60 atk

but ig it doesn’t matter since he doesn’t have c5

[lyric cargo]

wait, I do?

[elder bluff]

i don't think a healing circlet is needed; an atk% would be better

[cedar flint]

but I do agree healing circlet on her is completely meaningless

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it's just that her talent level doesn't justify it right now?

610 at TL 8 → 610 / 0.27 = 2259 atk
690 at TL 10 → 690 / 0.27 = 2555 atk
810 at TL 13 → 810 / 0.27 = 3000 atk

[cedar flint]

I would even understand crit circlet more which still doesn’t do much

[lyric cargo]

since her burst is level 8, it caps at 2259 atk (which I reach)

[cedar flint]

with your current built even level 10 you still reach

[lyric cargo]

it's just the highest on-set atk% I have leveled

[opal surge]

Yeah what I'm saying is eventually you will need an atk circlet to cap

Rn it obviously doesn't change anything

[cedar flint]

or a different weapon

but ye healing is useless

[lyric cargo]

I think this weapon is optimal for now, unless I get Shenhe's sig

[opal surge]

All circlets are meaningless for u rn

Crit atk healing they all do t change anything yeah

[cedar flint]

wdym jade spear is not optimal on her

[lyric cargo]

I might change her to noblesse btw
right now it's scroll since I only use her in theater

[elder bluff]

I think it should reach 3k atk with level 90 and her weapon buff when she uses skill

[opal surge]

Ins Bennet or

[elder bluff]

(don't mind the 82 EM gob)

[cedar flint]

ye but the weapon will fade before the burst

[lyric cargo]

yeah, ins ben

[cedar flint]

what do you plan to give bennet if you give her noblesse

[lyric cargo]

I do have this instructor build for him

[elder bluff]

we need a 5* ins set

[cedar flint]

crazy

[lyric cargo]

his current build, without noblesse Iansan:

since Iansan isn't fully built yet, I'm using:
Neuv Furina Xilonen Kazuha
Mavuika Sucrose Bennett Citlali

so it'd be c1 Iansan > Sucrose, not sure how big the difference is

certainly Iansan's buff uptime is much better, especially at c6

[hazy lotus]

idt i hit 3k on my build lmao

how much difference does it make rly

[cedar flint]

with pyro resonance and noblesse I think you do

but you’re missing on like 50 atk or so without those buffs

[lyric cargo]

curious, you have quite a few atk% rolls on flower / plume
it's harder than I thought

unless the team gives pyro resonance?

great circlet as well
the main thing I see is your burst talent level

you're waiting for overflowing mastery?

I do that sometimes

[opal surge]

It's 2x artifacts this patch

[lyric cargo]

that's also nice

some free resin either way

[elder bluff]

2x trash for box

[cedar flint]

who knows maybe I will get a feather

I got a on set circlet that is decent before a single ok feather so far

[viral mulch]

for even more trash

[rugged sparrow]

best deals

so did u 9999x today's stage

[viral mulch]

i dont even know what to strongbox anymore

[viral mulch]

it is in literal sense impossible without c6 mavu

[rugged sparrow]

not surprising ig

[viral mulch]

even every single bilibili homework is c6 mavu

and yes i checked all of em

[viral mulch]

maybe if i actually lottery luck then like maybe but that is lmao

im at like 9600s rn idr exact

tmr is lava anyway i cant do that

[rugged sparrow]

can rest easy knowing Mav can't abuse Cit on Lava (but still have higher DPS probs even in mono)

[viral mulch]

ppl prob gonna kinich mavu

or just run mavu iansan overload and do dash spin combo who knows

[rugged sparrow]

true

[primal latch]

Having trouble clearing the 2nd half of 3rd chamber in abyss.

Using mavuika xilonen rosaria bennet. I think they are nicely built. Any tips?

[rugged sparrow]

how exactly are you having trouble

[primal latch]

Time few seconds too slow for perfect clear

[rugged sparrow]

you basically just force it into the pillar phase
destroy pillar
kill

[primal latch]

Finished 8:45 first galf

I think im not able to do rotation while its in weakened state. Not sure

[bright cape]

@viral mulch do u have video for today's one?

chicken was easy. i cleared it on first try

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1294733495343517826/928515871553495091.gif

[crude dirge]

what the event even about

[bright cape]

try to deplete boss hp 9999 times.

it's fun

[narrow folio]

ZZZ did it first

[terse remnant]

@viral mulch definition of cv isnt everything

[opal surge]

30 subs wajaja

[haughty lotus]

4pc modcheck

[lyric cargo]

talent levels as well

[bright cape]

[opal surge]

chasca event im batchesting

[strange scarab]

Which boss

oh the robot

[bright cape]

chicken

[opal surge]

i get the same on the fat guy too

my characters dont have the ER for this event

but I dont want to change builds

[strange scarab]

new 5* food and adeptus and potion ez

[haughty lotus]

Is that so

[opal surge]

my food mats situation is quite dire

[strange scarab]

So that is

[fiery wigeon]

Is 38k hp under hydro resonance enough for neuvilette?

[strange scarab]

Is it

[bright cape]

i barely reach 36k. i think it's fine

[rugged sparrow]

use optimizer™️
or tally up your whole useful rolls
or just use him in abyss, if it's "enough" then it can clear within average time

[pallid leaf]

is furina good enouh or should i put another few thousand resin in?

[rugged sparrow]

32 useful subs is good enough imo

as long as you have enough ER to burst every rot on team(s) where you use her, it should be good to go

[bright cape]

what is baseline good number of useful sub?

[rugged sparrow]

I'd say 30 is a good baseline for the most part, defo can be higher if your chars have multiple of useful subs (like Yae)

[bright cape]

thanks

i am really conflicted on these two. which would u choose?

[rugged sparrow]

considering max potential useful subs is 45 (9 from each artifact) but it's very unlikely to reach on certain chars cuz some subs are just straight up dead

[rugged sparrow]

optimizer™️

[bright cape]

is this similar to what optimizer does?

[rugged sparrow]

is that akasha

[bright cape]

yep

weirdly the one with overcrit shows up better

[rugged sparrow]

akasha is kinda sus since it uses very specific team comps + rotations

as long as you're using the same team + rot is can be fine to follow

otherwise it's

[bright cape]

i see.

i don't like the overcapped one. feels weird

[rugged sparrow]

eh it's 0.1% overcap

[bright cape]

sad thing is the non-overcapped one is after i spent elixir

i always start with 3 liner and roll to useless stats first

[rugged sparrow]

do be like that

[rugged sparrow]

@viral mulch what are these buffs man

60% def shred + 150% atk

[viral mulch]

doesnt matter when boss is lava

i just did first half for now ill check later

[rugged sparrow]

I wonder if Kaz is better than XL in this case

probs not when XL will be doing fuckton of DPR ig

[viral mulch]

mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

(for my monopyro Klee)

not Mavge

I'm not even trying @viral mulch

[viral mulch]

whats team

[rugged sparrow]

Emilie Bennett XL Klee

XL burst every other rot

Klee's on 4p Mare too cuz I'm too lazy to swap out

[viral mulch]

i dont have emilie idk who to even use on 4th

[rugged sparrow]

what u running rn

Arle Bennett Xilo

just XL no, or Chiori

not even sure if anemo is worth

actually no u need burning/overload

Fischl

[viral mulch]

idk

[rugged sparrow]

I think ppl later are just gonna Mav + Ororon and never swap to him

[viral mulch]

ororon can 0 swap?

[rugged sparrow]

only when u have a Nightsoul char

cuz of his A1 passive

Ororon can have a maximum of 80 Nightsoul points.

Also, when nearby opponents take Electro-Charged reaction DMG or Nightsoul-aligned DMG dealt by other nearby characters, Ororon will consume 10 Nightsoul points (provided he has at least that amount), entering the Nightsoul's Blessing state and triggering the Hypersense effect: Deal Nightsoul-aligned Electro DMG based on 160% of Ororon's ATK to at most 4 nearby opponents. The aforementioned effect can trigger once every 1.8s.```

[viral mulch]

oh

[rugged sparrow]

basically
if teammate procs EC or Nightsoul dmg, Ororon does electro dmg from off-field

and it has gauge so

[viral mulch]

idk what ppl gonna run

[rugged sparrow]

since u dont have c6 Mav maybe Kinich angle

[viral mulch]

brick angle

[rugged sparrow]

but

that'll need an off-field pyro so

[rugged sparrow]

Mav

I'm thinking Mav Chev Iansan Ororon maybe

[viral mulch]

mavu xilo citlali ororon and just dont citlali until groggy lmao

[rugged sparrow]

LMFAO

actually probs just Xilo yeah

[viral mulch]

i did briefly try some teams for testing without food

[rugged sparrow]

idk why I'm setting f2p bar

[viral mulch]

arle overload fucking sucks ass thats out of the question

kinich if i actually manage to play well which i never do maybe

and uh thats kinda it actually lmao nvm

[rugged sparrow]

the buffs are pretty crazy though so I think u can make it

[viral mulch]

i still doubt it cus no amp reaction = dead

[rugged sparrow]

might be ye