📌gimshim-help

[forest venture]

maybe it's true after all
twirlie is just a phlogiston entity, and it loses its existence outside of natlan

[lyric cargo]

I thought it was a construct, but a lighter one

[lyric cargo]

it works with Chiori in abyss, I thought?

[bright cape]

is reverse melt rosaria very unpopular?

i was thinking of giving her left over gilded pieces

i duno if i can get her enough Er though

she's another xiangling

[cloud plover]

it is a construct indeed

[cloud plover]

yes it works with chiori in abyss

while it still cannot activate even a pressure plate in the open world

[quaint fern]

1618?

[bright cape]

oh my bad. i was expecting gilded

i think EOSF is better than noblesse right?

i wanna use her with arle

[young glen]

anyone know what i could do for the 2nd team i lwk dont know anything

[quaint fern]

Yeah her ER is going to be so high that she won't be doing much dmg

what's the floor 10 lineup

[young glen]

not just for floor 10 i just need a general 2nd team

hydro immune enemies are pissing me off

[quaint fern]

Just play an aggravate team

[young glen]

i need a exanplr

[quaint fern]

Raiden/keqing Nahida fischl flex

[viral mulch]

@rugged sparrow @bright cape

[quaint fern]

Why do you do this to yourself

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1307177861894897817/1083056043526979714.gif

[viral mulch]

youre right

[bright cape]

resinless behavior

[viral mulch]

you know the best part was i had multiple times where it died on 6:59 so i had to do it from scratch again

[viral mulch]

not too sure if ayaka or this was worse

[bright cape]

for me, it might be ayaka

at least catalyst can apply elements with normals

[viral mulch]

at least yae doesnt struggle on plungebot so probably yea

[young glen]

how good would raiden nahida fiscl benett do

[quaint fern]

Should be fine

[terse remnant]

I don’t even know how the fuck you survive getting your ass blown to bits by the wind orbs

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-ninjaristic-gojo-hollow-purple-nuke-gif-5930621233389374429

[silver prism]

can someone who has petrichor boss please help me and let me join their world? (NA, WL8)

idk where co op channel is

[bright cape]

what's ur UID?

@quaint fern why is kaeya not as popular as rosaria?

for cryo support

[quaint fern]

Probably just uptime issue

Gets fixed with c2 but yk standard char c2 is hard

[strange scarab]

hard to get cons

[bright cape]

i have him at c3

may be he is better than rosaria. right?

[quaint fern]

Good for you, id probably use him over rosa then

Rosa has circle impact issue

[bright cape]

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[quaint fern]

electrifying

[glad grove]

alooooha

[viral mulch]

stay a little more further away from middle

[terse remnant]

wdym

[viral mulch]

isnt it anemo ult of the boss

it has kinda bs aoe so if you just run near the edge you get hit

[terse remnant]

The one where you have to destroy all 3 orbs to down it

I’m getting deleted from every action I do

[viral mulch]

yes the aoe of that attack is bigger than it looks

[terse remnant]

I can’t survive it 🥀

[viral mulch]

anemo attack of that boss tend to have bullshit aoe or hit timings so just stay away

[terse remnant]

When I manage to down it I die

[terse remnant]

Then how am I supposed to hit if I can’t go near

[viral mulch]

circle around the 3 orbs not the middle circle itself

the ones that damaging you is the pulse from the middle which covers until where the orbs are

[terse remnant]

like you mean go around the orbs?

[viral mulch]

yes kinda

[terse remnant]

Ahh

Bro I thought like the orbs were blowing me up whenever I destroy them

I kept getting nuked

[viral mulch]

i think orbs itself dont damage you

[terse remnant]

Alright I’ll try going outside and destroying it there

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

@viral mulch I used elixir to craft mare feather for Wrio, gunning for minor affix on cdmg + EM cuz I dont wanna overcap CR
got fed 4-starter with CR with 2 rolls into CR and none to cdmg

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

I hate it here

[viral mulch]

do i need to explain

[rugged sparrow]

all the cr rolls you'll probably need for c6

[viral mulch]

i think i have to make a circlet

when 5.5 drops

without cr on substat selection too

[rugged sparrow]

I got atk% and EM% sub cdmg circlet earlier but rolled like garbo kinda

[viral mulch]

i have that em one in which is kinda useless if im not running melt and the other ones is dumpster fire

[rugged sparrow]

2x flat DEF

if it rolls once more to EM/ATK it would've been fire

[viral mulch]

my neuv lyney and hutao rising up in upgrade rapidly and i randomly get a full set for noelle that im not building as of now and then my wrio looks like this

this is so unfair

[rugged sparrow]

I dont even have other MH user

actually Noelle but I dont even use her anymore

[viral mulch]

im not building noelle until i get redhorn

[rugged sparrow]

is it time for me to rev up 4p MH Navia

[viral mulch]

[rugged sparrow]

is that with c6

[viral mulch]

yea

which apparently is pretty normal amount but still

its just anges wrio being randomly cracked as hell

[rugged sparrow]

Wrio my beloved

[viral mulch]

but yea even then id love some actual wrio upgrades thanks

not hutao upgrade for the 155th time

[rugged sparrow]

samege

[opal surge]

wrio c6 is one of the best single cons in the game isnt it

isnt it ~+50%

[rugged sparrow]

[viral mulch]

dunno about the sheet perspective but practically its rly good yea

[rugged sparrow]

it probably is

[viral mulch]

just casually double hits ca with 80% cd boost

[opal surge]

I think its the second highest single con in modernt imes

in terms of upgrade over c5

i have no clue about old cons but more likely than not they were all garbage

[viral mulch]

smh overcrit by .1%

[rugged sparrow]

getting 100cv instantly + for whateverr reason the CA is doubled

[viral mulch]

yea best you can go is like yaes c6 in which we all know how thats doing rn

[near prism]

got done in by the ol' razzle dazzle

[rugged sparrow]

[near prism]

also jerry i somehow doubled my amount of eosf users in half a patch

cuz i started building dehya and sigewinne at the same time

[rugged sparrow]

ew

Sig*winn*

[near prism]

sigeW

sickwin

siegewinner

[rugged sparrow]

im still waiting for ur c1 Sige

[near prism]

man you've no idea how tempted i am

[viral mulch]

u actually got sige dam

[near prism]

of course i did i said i would

[viral mulch]

i think at some point i treated as just meming

but nice

[near prism]

oh i know a lot of people did, but i really like her kit and loved her SQ+i hadher weapon so

[viral mulch]

what do u use her for i actually dont know aside from c2 speedrun thing

[near prism]

well me specifically, just building her rn, prob gonna do some monohydro shenanigans

as far as general usage goes, she's just a furina tag-along, she heals teamwide, provides a pretty noticable buff for furina/other off fielders that deal skill damage, and can fill some downtime w her Q

[viral mulch]

o

[near prism]

there's also a fun interaction with sac where you can double the amount of buff she gives

[viral mulch]

it stacks?

i didnt know that

[near prism]

nope, it does not

but if you have furi+chiori/fischl/yae in the team, and they use the stacks fast enough, you can use a 2nd E and refresh the buff

its the same logic as c1 shen where you stagger the E usages

[viral mulch]

oh

i see

ngl c2 sigewinne would prob be quite beneficial for me but i dont rly wanna go for it

[near prism]

mua time

[viral mulch]

yea but ehhh i think i wanna save rather

[near prism]

yea thats fair

[near prism]

i have a rate up guarantee rn and was considering going for c1 sigewinner (since its literally a bigger increase than c1 furi in a lot of their shared teams ) but i think ill save it for xilo, since i failed to get her the last time around

[viral mulch]

go c2 furina frfr

oh wait right you skipped xilo for chiori cons
yea makes sense to save for her

[near prism]

ye, xilo+chiori about to go hard

[viral mulch]

i can approve

its such a comfy option to make almost any team good even if most of the good supports are yoinked already as long as xilo is available

[sage sail]

oh my...

[near prism]

yup

[crude dirge]

not even 50 cv

[nova flint]

anyone wanna help me to farming artefak arlecchino? ASIA btw

[viral mulch]

ok

[valid anchor]

tempting...

[viral mulch]

no response so i think no need now

[nova flint]

oh sorry, i think you just wanna respon

[viral mulch]

oh

all good

[nova flint]

wanna now?

[viral mulch]

sure

[nova flint]

850811834

this my uid

[valid anchor]

I'm testing something. I'll let you know if I need some coop help.

[viral mulch]

ok

[valid anchor]

the only stuff I need in coop is... open the heart-shaped chest in Liyue
Either Americas or Asia (I'm rn in Americas).
Americas: 623557360 / Asia: 844095676. Lemme know beforehand.

[viral mulch]

i dont even remember what that is atp

[valid anchor]

A chest which can only be opened in coop. In Liyue.

[valid anchor]

This one.

[viral mulch]

oh

[valid anchor]

I'll be there in Asia in a few minutes

[elder bluff]

ok (Asia)

[valid anchor]

Lemme know beforehand. With UID or player nickname.

Thanks

Mission accomplished

[young glen]

is wrio a good dps

[bright cape]

i heard he is at c1

[young glen]

💔

[nova flint]

what app u use for that?

[young glen]

thats ps achievements

[valid anchor]

uh, that's Xbox achievements.

[young glen]

who would be a good filler in a raiden aggravate team

[valid anchor]

PSN achievements are way bigger.

[young glen]

practically the same 💔

[valid anchor]

Yaoyao will save your rearview. Trust me.

[rugged sparrow]

Jean if you want healing, otherwise Sucrose
alternatively replace Nahida with Yaoyao and run Sucrose

[nova flint]

I think it's an app to see the achievements in the game

[valid anchor]

nope. PSN achievements are same as Genshin in-game ones in 1-1 basis.
Xbox are only 42 achievements.

[young glen]

2d dendro or jean/sucrose

[valid anchor]

ah, no. I don't follow my in-game achievements.

[rugged sparrow]

no reason to run 2 dendro

[young glen]

my sucrose is c1

[rugged sparrow]

and?

[young glen]

doesnt she need to be c6

[rugged sparrow]

she's perfectly functional even at c0

[young glen]

oh alr

what rotation would i use

and how should i build sucrose

[rugged sparrow]

just stack EM, run TTDS/Hakushin Ring

[young glen]

4p virid?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

Raiden E > Yaoyao E > Sucrose E(Q) > Fischl E or Q > Raiden combo > repeat

[young glen]

am i using ttds for the passive?

[rugged sparrow]

correct

[young glen]

i dont have hakushin ring what is it

[rugged sparrow]

Inazuma craftable catalyst

[young glen]

how do i build raiden cr cd or er

[viral mulch]

yes

[rugged sparrow]

that's literally all the offensive stats she wants

[young glen]

wouldnt this be way better + bonus er

[rugged sparrow]

you basically want a good balance of them

[rugged sparrow]

arguably yes but if you don't have billets then

[young glen]

so im gonna have to be incredibly lucky on artifacts 💔

i have 6 billets

[young glen]

should sucrose be loaded on em

[rugged sparrow]

that's her most important stat so yes

[young glen]

does kazuh need to be built with em too?

also is skyward spine a good replacement for the catch

[viral mulch]

for who

[young glen]

raiden

passive kinda sucks

[neon harness]

Yes
Er req > em

[neon harness]

Yes, she can use spine

[young glen]

rate my mualani build rq

[rugged sparrow]

0 EM, dead build
also ratio skewed so even deader
4/10

at least functional to clear abyss ig (or not )

[young glen]

i get 40% crit from obsidian

[rugged sparrow]

which still leaves you at 17% chance of missing 3.6x of your dmg

which makes crit dmg dead stats

[young glen]

what

[rugged sparrow]

what

[young glen]

i dont follow

[rugged sparrow]

which part

[young glen]

missing 3,6x of my dmg

[rugged sparrow]

you have 260% cdmg

[young glen]

yeah

[rugged sparrow]

that's 3.6x

of your dmg

if you crit

[young glen]

17% isnt that bad

[rugged sparrow]

oh trust me it is

when your cdmg goes past 200%, if your CR is not 100% your average DPS takes a nose dive

[young glen]

how can i imrpove it the

[rugged sparrow]

get more cr (duh), EM sands (and subs), hydro% gob, and generally just better crit stats

[young glen]

its fine for now lwk

i need to focus on a 2nd team

how much damage do u think il get if i get a good mualani build

[rugged sparrow]

a lot

[young glen]

she does like 260k with no buffs

[rugged sparrow]

wouldn't be surprised if you hit around 400k with a better build since you basically run 0 EM rn

[young glen]

how much em should i go for then

[rugged sparrow]

a lot

instead of having general range it's better to just keep farming > use optimizer if you think it's good enough

you can also check akasha leaderboards to have an estimate as long as you're using the same team

[near swallow]

Its not quite good but i still do good damage with it

[quaint fern]

Yeah you typically want to be at around 100 em minimun

But use optimizer

Might change if you have instructors on someone

[viral mulch]

48.3

[rugged sparrow]

still higher than 43.3

[viral mulch]

fuck this game

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

[narrow folio]

Hope you didn't craft this

[viral mulch]

you can tell its not cus the second line is not crit but still

hurts regardless

[narrow folio]

The subs wouldn't be in a certain order even if they're crafted

The piece would just have them

[viral mulch]

im pretty sure the first two is the two you selected

[narrow folio]

I'll come back to you next patch when I craft another piece

Cuz now I'm doubting

Actually hold on

[narrow folio]

Shit you're right, never noticed that

Welp

[viral mulch]

but yea either way stupid game smh

[narrow folio]

Better luck next time

[viral mulch]

[valid anchor]

Sometimes, RNG Goddess doesn't bless us.

[viral mulch]

made me sad enough that i randomly played yanfei and sethos in abyss

[neon harness]

Queenfei

[neon harness]

@haughty lotus 🫵 🫃 🕴️

[lyric cargo]

now, where do I go to convert the crit dmg substat to crit rate? 😅

[bright cape]

cheveruse piece

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen, more likely?

[bright cape]

oh right. that works too

[sage sail]

just get peak patrol then u won't need the CR :D

[bright cape]

i mean xilonen does multiple hits.

procing fav should not be that much of issue right?

[quaint fern]

yeah it shouldn't be a huge issue

[bright cape]

i just did a mavuika run without any natlan characters

it's quite an experience

surprisingly she does get her burst back after a couple of normals

[quaint fern]

let me sim this rq

[opal surge]

if u have 30% crit you have a 1/3 chance to not proc fav

xilonen does 3 hits its not a lot

[narrow folio]

There's like no difference if I add a fourth character

[bright cape]

wow. i thought 30 was more than enough

is this calc with r1 fav?

[opal surge]

you just have a 1/3rd chance to not crit 3 times in a row

Its worse with low refine fav of course

I saw that

[bright cape]

nvm.

i did .3 ^ 3 instead of .7 ^ 3

still with 30% crit rate, i am getting 65%

[opal surge]

to what

[bright cape]

to proc fav

[opal surge]

yeah

[narrow folio]

Get more crit rate then

Or R5 Fav

[opal surge]

do you really want me to say you have a 34,3% chance to notcrit

instead of you have 1/3rd chance to not crit

[narrow folio]

You gotta use percentages to get your point across

Nobody likes fractions

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

65% sounds a bit more optimistic

[narrow folio]

Numbers don't care about optimism

[opal surge]

I dont think optimism or pessimism changes that your fav isnt proccing every third rotation on average

but if you want you can phrase it as that your fav procs 2 out of 3 rotations on average sure

[bright cape]

i like to have more ER than required. so usually that's not that much of issue

also my viewpoint might have been slightly skewed by this statement.

dunno what they were smoking with this

i guess it's different with kazuha. with assumption he is hitting multiple targets

[feral reef]

this team was funny

[bright cape]

u got perfect team for chev

[feral reef]

i do?

[bright cape]

doesn't feel that good with raiden

i don't have clorinde

[bright cape]

does mauika get her burst meter full with this team?

[feral reef]

think so
xilo does the heavy lifting

[feral reef]

raiden chev is just another flavour of raiden hyper lmao

[opal surge]

actually good version of raiden hyper true

"good"

[feral reef]

as good as a 4 star can get

[opal surge]

the 4 star is not the problem in that team

it is better than raiden hyper but its a raiden team so

"good" is as good as it gets

[feral reef]

wow raiden is not the problem?

[haughty lotus]

So true my v

[feral reef]

memesickles on the beat ho

memesickles like us phonk remix

[haughty lotus]

Ketchup

[feral reef]

BOIIII 😂 you must be a drake fan

[haughty lotus]

🪣 ew tv, im a mustard fan

[feral reef]

liberal genshin
mavwokea
xilothem
sis-lali
chasca
mualesbian
DEImiya
wriothe-slay

[haughty lotus]

Uh no

[feral reef]

wtv

[haughty lotus]

wts

[rocky citrus]

can someone please look over my wrio build and let me know any improvements i can make no other servers or subreddits let me post images

[haughty lotus]

Sand and goblet are very bad

And you can off piece one of them

[rocky citrus]

OH DAMN i forgot to change the goblet, its an off piece its golden troupe mb

what stats should i aim for if im replacing them?

[haughty lotus]

Cd, ATK, em. You can get one cr roll before overcapping

[rocky citrus]

alr perfect, tysm my goat ive been looking for advice for like an hour now 😭

is a good indicator for stats i should aim for the top 1% average on the akasha? i found that im actually pretty close to em besides a few stats but idk if theyre the idea or if the fact that theyre an average brings em down

[haughty lotus]

Nah

Your team won’t always be the same as akasha leaderboard teams

And you don’t need top 1% to clear abyss

[strange scarab]

Is that so

[haughty lotus]

Tis

[quaint fern]

okay yeah I dont really like 30

it's closer to 3/4 with 40 CR

tho if you're bursting then there's that AoE that can make triggering way easier

[bright cape]

does her burst do damage?

sadly i don't have her yet 😔

[quaint fern]

it should? it becomes exponentially more likely to trigger if you accumulate more hits, here's 30% CR and 6 hits

[bright cape]

i dunno how to read this graph

i got curve something like this.

[quaint fern]

oh it's just a histogram of a simulation

[bright cape]

i see

[quaint fern]

basically simulating a bunch of times how likely it is to trigger fav

[quaint fern]

the mean for this one was like 64% chance, not very consistent imo

[bright cape]

i just did simple math.

the simulation should approach this

[quaint fern]

at 3 hits and 50 CR it's 88% chance

[quaint fern]

yeah tbf idk how "random" it is

[bright cape]

it's theoretical.

ur empirical results will approach this for infinitely large simulations

[quaint fern]

yeah I was like: there's probably a formula for this

but let me just go and sim it anyways

LOL

[bright cape]

the formula is usually from binomial distribution

[quaint fern]

okay tbf that formula totally makes sense; it's just exponentiating the chance of not critting by the amount of hits you do

and that's the only way to never crit

[bright cape]

for 3 hits, the chance that none of them crit is (1-cr)^3
so. at least one of them will crit will be 1-(1-cr)^3

[bright cape]

yep

looks like 53% cr is good number to crit reliably

u get 90%

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/zexuzvtoqs

[quaint fern]

okay and what if you change it to 4 hits

[bright cape]

43.8%

check the graph link i sent

u can change the number of hits too

[neon harness]

math

[narrow folio]

@jolly junco

She is cute

[neon harness]

Not as cute as u

[narrow folio]

[terse remnant]

how did cubic curve come into this 🥀

[haughty lotus]

Not as Not as cute as u as u

[bright cape]

coz we calculated it for 3 hits

xilonen hits 3 times

during her setup

[feral reef]

cuter than u

[lyric portal]

If I wanna do Hu tao and mavuika teams for abyss how could I do it

[rugged sparrow]

Mav/Xilo/Bennett/Rosa
Tao/Yelan/Xq/+1

[crude dirge]

hutao xingqiu xianling sucrose
mavuika xilonen kokomi rosaria

oh wait he got xilo

[rugged sparrow]

[cedar flint]

mono pyro with xq

[keen willow]

Hutao first side is rough

[quaint fern]

double hydro wheelchair surely

[haughty lotus]

Uh, don’t hit on me, thanks, I’m vro zoning you

[keen willow]

Double hydro with fischl don't swap to hutao

[cedar flint]

vro zoning is though

[quaint fern]

is there a reason vro wants to play tao?

just put some weird team with neuvi like layla fischl ororon or smth

[cedar flint]

does a vro needs a reason to use a cutie

[lyric portal]

Kokomi?

[rugged sparrow]

says the Ganyu main

[rugged sparrow]

ignore him

[cedar flint]

they lost their mind to the abyss long ago

[lyric portal]

I never thought of mavuika with kokomi.

[quaint fern]

yeah bc it wont work

[lyric portal]

Yeah this makes more sense

[cedar flint]

and continue so

[rugged sparrow]

because it's garbage yes

[lyric portal]

I haven't used kokomi in a while

[cedar flint]

a grave sin

[quaint fern]

ayaka should be fine 1st half if you want to run that

[lyric portal]

I'm considering pulling furina to do a mono hydro team, but I really want varesa

[rugged sparrow]

no Kaz Venti

[cedar flint]

varesa for the rescue

[rugged sparrow]

I'd rather not play Ayaka

[lyric portal]

My ayaka does have signature weapon

[quaint fern]

true, 1st half is a bit rough with no cc

[cedar flint]

ayaka is there to look pretty and smile

[keen willow]

Cant believe they're releasing another electro just after i built clorinde

[rugged sparrow]

it's fine without, it's an Ayaka's problem

[lyric portal]

I keep losing kazuha 50/50

[cedar flint]

they said yk what we need more electro thicc woman

[rugged sparrow]

22 mobs multiwave no cc =

[quaint fern]

okay fair

[cedar flint]

we haven’t released those in a while

[rugged sparrow]

since when we know theres Xianyun

[cedar flint]

hmm I don’t think we know the reruns yet

since the live didn’t happen yet

[lyric portal]

Ignore that

Oppsie whoopsie

[rugged sparrow]

[cedar flint]

bro got too excited

[lyric portal]

[cedar flint]

into cryo jail you go

[keen willow]

Im getting my furina nothing else matters after that

[lyric portal]

Don't ban me, I'm a nice person, trust 🙏

Furina is good, but she is not a cow : (

[cedar flint]

I do desperately need varesa tho

[lyric portal]

Real

[cedar flint]

That’s sounds bad in so many ways

[lyric portal]

It's fans service, I'm the fan being serviced

[quaint fern]

watch her be ANOTHER fischl driver

[keen willow]

Because shes the goat

[lyric portal]

EXACTLYYY

[cedar flint]

as long as she can on field while fish does her cringe role play in the background I can live with that

[median glade]

erm

cow actually

[cedar flint]

cows actually don’t exist in the Genshin universe 🤓

[keen willow]

Fischl is the main character in your electro teams

[lyric portal]

What is varesa then

[cedar flint]

sarurain beast

I think it’s her tribe one

[keen willow]

Genshin cow

[cedar flint]

the baby one has small horns

[lyric portal]

I'm trying Hu Tao first half because I tried neuvilette in it and he took too long

I was using neuvilette ororon Layla and sucrose

[cedar flint]

they need to release more events I need varesa savings

[lyric portal]

Or maybe it was the team

[strange scarab]

Banned for leaking

[median glade]

damn maybe wear a diaper next time

[candid fable]

how to change this to melt?

[cedar flint]

should be below the image a option to change it

[lyric portal]

Does it have a elemental mastery clock

[terse remnant]

settings

then change the decimal places

oh wait you’re not asking for ranking

[lyric portal]

I gave neuvilette my ayaka crown and he went to top 20% in akasha

[median glade]

weak

[strange scarab]

Mid

[median glade]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-beiyi-yae-miko-gif-4068773935841728510

[candid fable]

well i am but its still on vape if i change the decimals ranking

[terse remnant]

Miyabi or Miko

[neon harness]

Not as Not as Not as cute as u as u as u

[errant holly]

How worth it is it to invest in Lan yan

[lyric cargo]

I think my next vertical investment would either be c2 Furina or c2 Citlali

Xilonen c2 or r1 seems comparatively unimportant

[jovial prawn]

Hutao yelan/xingqiu furina kazuha
Hutao yelan/xingqiu furina benett
Hutao furina benett kazuha
Which team is better.
Btw do I need to use jean instead of benett for whole team fanfare? Is it necessary?

[opal surge]

Hutao yelan furina | xilonen > xianyun ~= bennett > jean

[jovial prawn]

@opal surge will furina be better off in hyperbloom alhaitham or is she better in hutao team?

[hazy lotus]

do u reckon there’s more value in going for xianyun+sig or xianyun c2 or xilonen c2

not sure if i’m overestimating how much xilonen c2 actually brings to the table realistically

[opal surge]

difficult to say as a blanket statement, hutaos final team would be better than alhaithams in single target but it depends on situation

you could consider playing furina xq in ht and yelan with haitham as a compromise

[opal surge]

xianyun is much more limited than xilonen, they have no team where they play together

so value is a strange thing to ask

if you play a lot of xianyun teams then xianyun c2 is valuabe, if you play them every now and th en xilo c2 is better

xilo c2 is not that good fwiw

[cedar flint]

if cloud container rerun next patch I’m cooked

[hazy lotus]

yeah fair i was asking generally for just what they would do for the teams they are used in bc i don’t have xianyun yet anyways

[cedar flint]

I can’t afford the birb

[hazy lotus]

c4 furina is also something i could consider i alrdy have her weapon and currently on c2

[opal surge]

xianyun realistically has three teams where she is optimal in

diluc, gaming and xiao

[cedar flint]

unless you want to use her for the memes

[opal surge]

if you are not big into playing either of these I would disregard xianyun

[hazy lotus]

yeah my gaming is fairly invested and i have a xiao who uhh exists. i would prob just play off meta teams with c6 bennett and some random claymore lmao

[cedar flint]

which was my main reason of wanting her

[opal surge]

xilonens c2 main flaw is that its tied to her c1

[cedar flint]

what does it do again c1 that is

[opal surge]

nothing

[cedar flint]

oh so like you need to get a useless con to reach the good one

kinda like a lot of old characters but on a less bad scale cus it’s only c2

[opal surge]

old characters have no good cons

at least xilo actually has one

[cedar flint]

well old characters has like a decent c6

but that’s about it

but even than not all of them

[opal surge]

I think the only presumeru good c6 in the game is maybe yae isnt it

[near prism]

what exactly do you consider old characters

[hazy lotus]

so how is xilonen c2 independently disregarding the stepping stone issue with c1? the buffs don’t seem bad but in practice i feel like they might not be as big an increase as it’d seem

[cedar flint]

depends what you consider good

[opal surge]

pre 3.x mostly

[hazy lotus]

esp with how much atk pyro chars tend to get with bennett anyways

[opal surge]

yeah there are a few outliers here and there ht c1 raiden c2 but mostly characters have bad cons

[near prism]

yae, yelan, ganyu, ayato, kazuha(kinda niche but its good), xiao(but his other cons are trash)

[cedar flint]

relatively I do wish they buffed old characters a bit

[near prism]

also like, ayaka c2 and c4, klee c2

[opal surge]

its about twice as good as her sig for most her teams

[near prism]

i think buffing their cons could be cool, but saying old chars have no good cons is wild lmao

[opal surge]

so if you consider pulling her sig worth then you can consider her c2 worth as well

[cedar flint]

yae c2 is sweet as well

[opal surge]

this depends from team to team ofc

[hazy lotus]

yeah i’ve got sig im just thinking what would be the best investment for me rn if i want to vertically invest in supports

[near prism]

all of yae's cons are good

[cedar flint]

I can’t afford them sadly

[near prism]

c1 is more energy, which is good for her in a good part of her teams, c4 is an electro% buff teamwide, c6 is def ignore for her totems

also like, eula's c1 and c6 are also pretty solid

her c2 is kinda not that great but imo its pretty comfy

[cedar flint]

Eula

[opal surge]

tbf in my mind i disregard cons for characters that are bad to begin with even if theyre a good personal % increase

[hazy lotus]

and on that note how important would u say sig for xianyun is

[opal surge]

but thats a difference in what you consider good or bad

semantic difference

[near prism]

what do you even consider bad characters

[near prism]

its pretty good, like, a big increase dps wise and energy wise

[opal surge]

i consider most of the cast to be pretty bad at this point

I think the average has shifted up too much recently

[near prism]

id say that is certainly a take of all time

[near prism]

why, in whay way

[cedar flint]

well most old characters fall when you start talking about current characters

[opal surge]

in terms of practical dps both at standardisation and common personal investment levels

[cedar flint]

but like abysmal drop

conclusion mavuika too good nerf her

[near prism]

this is a nothing statement, this doesnt tell me why you think most of the characters are bad

[cedar flint]

ngl I hope varesa is like top 3 dps or something

would be nice for once to like a meta character

[strange scarab]

Moo

[viral mulch]

i think old char cons should be buffed

[cedar flint]

for some reason the characters I like never end up on that level

[near prism]

and just like, for the record
under standardization most natlan characters sit in the 60k-80k dps range, which literally almost every other on field dps has a team in that range

[viral mulch]

i think the overall powerlevel difference before and after fontaine is clear

[opal surge]

under what standardization

[near prism]

ive had my take on this before, i think its only evident once you start looking at cons

[opal surge]

rfd gcsim or

[viral mulch]

owo

[opal surge]

on sheets they certainly arent

[near prism]

20 fluid 20 set rolls, 4* weapons

[near prism]

why do you cling so hard to sheets, they are so ass, there's like 5 people left who sheet stuff and their assumption are abyssmally dogshit

[opal surge]

so the number is kqm gcsim?

[viral mulch]

i still actually think c0 does have powercreep but i dont rly need to bring that can of worms rn
buff cons pls

[near prism]

yes?

[opal surge]

are we disregarding that perhaps this is the case because there are 2 characters missing on gcsim

[cedar flint]

even just letting us pick c3 and c5 would be nice

[strange scarab]

Please change yangu con

[viral mulch]

that would help a lot of chars yea

[near prism]

mavuika and kachina yes, and i am aware mavuika's dps is very high

in 1 specific team, the one specific xilonen citlali bennett team

[cedar flint]

I think buffing the optimal talents would be fun

[near prism]

thereis a difference between powercreep and high cost high reward

[viral mulch]

yoi or scara having 13 on na instead of e is already a better increase than like every other constellation except c6 which is still bad c6

[cedar flint]

like ganyu with a lv15 normal wouldn’t be on current characters level but it will be fun

[near prism]

mavuika's team has very high standards to actually work, but rewards the player for fulfilling said restrictions

[opal surge]

citlali is also missing

mavuika happens to be a teammate for every natlan dps

citlali also is for the worst natlan dps (chasca)

[near prism]

true enough, although citlali wont improve the dps of current teams that much

[opal surge]

arguably citlali works for mualani although its funky post 1st rotation

[near prism]

are you really gonna argue that because mavuika support works for kinich suddenly kinich's team is better

[viral mulch]

sensi in chasca doomposting arc

[opal surge]

I will argue that teams improve when they gain teamdps yeah

[cedar flint]

mavuika does casually drops half a million on enemies

[near prism]

you know, by thatsame logic, mavuika also improves older dpses, and citlali helps pyro and hydro dpses released before

[opal surge]

she does i never refused that

[near prism]

and worth mentioning that for someone like kinich, dropping dehya/thoma for mavuika is gonna result in worse playfeel

[opal surge]

I do think theres a difference between mavuika eq swap and mavuika onfielding and not fielding the old character

[near prism]

idk why you act like suddenly mavuika releasing will make all natlan teams deal a morbillion more dps than older chars

[opal surge]

if we're about to enter that level of semantics

just in case

[near prism]

if you really wanna go that way, literally no dps, natlan or otherwise, justifies using mavuika as an off fielder

[opal surge]

No i really dont want to go that way

[near prism]

none whatsoever, you'd always be best off using her on field

[opal surge]

thats why i said that

[near prism]

then why bring it up

itsnot an old character exclusive thing

[opal surge]

enough people have tried to go that way before in this line of discussion

was just a precautionary statement

[near prism]

again, you're the one who brought it up lol

[cedar flint]

not using your mavuika as the on fielder is a dps loss but like that’s not the point of the team if mavuika is on it for eq only

[near prism]

oh that'd be cool

[cedar flint]

she is there to make your shitty old character clear stuff easier to let you still enjoy them

one day they will release a pyro citlali surely

[viral mulch]

c6 mavuika and q and kill the enemy before the actual dps

[viral mulch]

this abyss made me regret not c6ing neuv a bit

[near prism]

[viral mulch]

which is well it is what it is cus 5.3 mavu citlali arle wadahek but yea

[near prism]

neuv is actually kinda annoying this abyss

[viral mulch]

as in its too favored sense or

[near prism]

hydro churls top half suanni bottom half

[viral mulch]

oh that sense

[near prism]

no actually, c0 neuv isnt that great this abyss

im getting better clear times w tigh top half than i am with neuv

[viral mulch]

i think hydro res enemies mostly just serves as filtering out ppl who dont have premium team with c0 pamer neuv stuff

ppl who got the full premium team will prob just bruteforce in classic neuv player fashion

[near prism]

well yeah although i do think that you'll need quite a bit of investment to have a comfy time with neuv this abyss

oh also im building dehyage

[viral mulch]

for who

[near prism]

on field dps

im using dehya furina kazuha benny

got a 49s clear on 12-1-1 with that team, with an 80/80 dehya and t8 Q

[viral mulch]

oh

[near prism]

akasha is poopy and doesnt have a vape LB so pretend the EM is useful

[viral mulch]

my dehya building was for my master plan

[near prism]

peak.

[viral mulch]

r5 akuomaru whel

[near prism]

its such a good weapon

[cedar flint]

at least she has a leaderboard

[viral mulch]

im pretty sure i still didnt get it despite going full hard pity this weapon banner

[near prism]

fwiw, furi and kazoo are both c0r0

[cedar flint]

cyno to this day doesn’t have a leaderboard

[viral mulch]

tbf im not using it but still yea 😔

[near prism]

LMAO

that's hilarious actually

[viral mulch]

deserved fr

[near prism]

its a pretty weapon tbh, its also a good investment if you play some specific claymore chars

mostly like, beidou, eula, chongyun, dehya

[viral mulch]

lemme see how many i have

rly

[near prism]

lol

oh ig its also good for mavuika

although like, kinda weird

her Q initial is a majority of her demej, but still

akuou passive doesnt buff the CAs ig

[viral mulch]

bro wtf

i did single pull out of spite cus i saw close to 4 star pity and

sir why are you here

[near prism]

PERS

[viral mulch]

peerusu

[near prism]

also i really want c6 fremi, idk why, id prob build him but

look at this mf

[viral mulch]

peerusu kappa dorai

[viral mulch]

c5 4* is pain generator

[near prism]

yup

i still cant believe i went to c1 baizhu for 3 layla cons

i would do it again

[viral mulch]

wait doesnt this mean at least next 4* is one of the banner weapons do i gamba

fuck it lesgo

[near prism]

it does yes

but

flute

[viral mulch]

if i dont get here i give up

[near prism]

this weapon banner has pretty good 4*s tbf

[viral mulch]

ok

[near prism]

akuou, waverider, mouuns moon

[near prism]

another good weapon

[viral mulch]

at least not the flute hey

but then i have that one r5 😔

o well it is what it is

[near prism]

wavebreaker r5is funny because like

its really good but who would u even use it on

[viral mulch]

oppa batchest

[near prism]

like, raiden, xiangling

rosa

emilie burst bot BAAAT

[viral mulch]

[near prism]

also should i build kachina

[viral mulch]

why doe

do u actually need more theater geo

[near prism]

chiori

[viral mulch]

oh

fair

[near prism]

nah, i got every geo built besides noelle kachina anyj

and yj* and ill prob get xilo too

[viral mulch]

while farming mh again for wrio i got a full set for noelle and upgrade for pretty much every mh user but wrio but not something wrio for himself

and im not building noelle yet

[near prism]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

me with eosf actually

im just trying to get a darn ER sands for raiden

(or dehya tbh)

ended up improving yelan, andim 2 pieces away from a sigeW set

[viral mulch]

pls game what is this

everyone else is eating good meanwhile

[near prism]

try to make wrio not overcap with r1 while having a good build challenge (impossible)

[viral mulch]

best part is goblet randomly having like all of cr sub needed

[near prism]

what makes it even moreannoying is that his c6 cv only applies to his CA

like id actually lose my shit if i built my wrio for full crit on CA and then saw my Q non crit

[viral mulch]

it serves as a coping material of final cr being like 93 being not bad even if it overcaps for ca

[near prism]

true...

[viral mulch]

i think that optimizer ss is like 91 cr

[near prism]

it is ye

[viral mulch]

i had to record this with a c1 neuv because he was unironically my best option for this

which is defo old topic but yea

[near prism]

speen

chasca c6 seems funtbh

[viral mulch]

unironically using spin in abyss is kinda fun tbh

[viral mulch]

i think its one of the most satisfactory c6 dps as of now

[near prism]

also can i just say, suanni sucks

[viral mulch]

i agree

[near prism]

like as far as niche bosses go its finneeee

you just need to bring a cryo

but its attack pattern is so inhumanly annoying

[viral mulch]

i rly dont like how it pretty much spams 200% res pattern once every 5s just to make things annoying

even if you freeze it asap you still lose like a full 5s from high res and if you cant get the right gimmick you spends like half the battle with 200 res

[near prism]

hell yea

[viral mulch]

and also it weirdly moves a lot vertically to dodge a lot of melee attacks and also especially the anemo attacks have weird hitbox/hit timing

[near prism]

i usually just go diluc plong to deal with it

[viral mulch]

and also why does that one pattern where it randomly turns hydro and 200 res just to literally do nothing exist

[near prism]

citlali freezes it and then i just do demej

[near prism]

it just like...walks...menacingly

[cedar flint]

can’t wait for the next patch already

[viral mulch]

it doesnt even do dmg too its just there to stall

[near prism]

talk for yourself, i wanna save

sigeW was fairly cheap and i managed to get an early mona too, now im just hoping xilo doesnt rerun too quickly

[viral mulch]

except for the fact that if you happen to use electro on the boss the hydro infusion actually swirls off a full EC to you and do half your hp as damage

[near prism]

my least favourite experience this abyss was using lyney citlali benny kaz on suanni

i swear to god i think my lyney died 6 times

[viral mulch]

i think these two best represent my hate against suanni

[near prism]

ayaka should counter suanni tbh

yae...on the other hand...

[viral mulch]

ayaka on her own doesnt have a way to actually stun the boss after its frozen

so freezing straight up stalls more time

altho gotta admit ayakas worst struggle was chamber 2 cus her animation delay prevents her from jumping as fast as i want

[near prism]

i forgot about that actually

[viral mulch]

yae on the other hand didnt have enough dmg to the point i deliberately got hit on chamber 2 to pick the 60% atk card on chamber 3 and still finished multiple run at 6:59 so i had to start again from scratch

[near prism]

thats...rough

sometimes the timer can be yucky and give you a 3* at 6:59

[viral mulch]

unfortunately that wasnt the case for me

[opal surge]

"soloing" suanni on chasca gave me aneurysm

you have to cancel the bullet on cryo and then cancel it on pyro on the next to freeze + melt

im too old for it

[viral mulch]

now true solo chasca it fr

[near prism]

jesus man, chiori vs 12-2-2 is hard af

solo i mean

[viral mulch]

that encounter in the last time the thing was in abyss was the first time i realized the boss has geo res

was like hello wheres my dmg

[near prism]

[viral mulch]

i havent done chiori solo yet but i think she should go in first half

[near prism]

ye first half is prob better

but i wanna do second half solo w her, doing full team top half tho

[viral mulch]

ayaka and yae scarred me so hard i think im only gonna try it after wrio banner

[near prism]

lol wtf

[viral mulch]

i can arle solo second half but did that too many times already

[near prism]

my phys NAs with a geo gob hit higher than my A1 procs on the 12-2-2 boss

[viral mulch]

def gob time fr

[near prism]

i almost did it but died to a fucking attack ive never seen before

tragic

[viral mulch]

💀 which one

honestly i feel like i dont recognize most of the attack thats not during the gravity state thing

[near prism]

the one where it does the wave attack three times in quick succession

[viral mulch]

oh shit yea that one

i died to that before

[viral mulch]

i think it does that on the 3rd time in battle it uses the shockwaves

[near prism]

and again

[near prism]

damn

ok ill give up for now, ill try again later

[viral mulch]

gl

[cedar flint]

well I was talking for myself

I didn’t say we can’t

[bright cape]

mavuika solo natlan

i dunno how much ororon would have helped

[elder bluff]

he can charge her faster than fischl

[rugged sparrow]

also 4p Cinder so even if Ororon does less dmg than Fischl, it'll even out / end up being net positive for team DPR

[nova flint]

can anyone help me in the artifact domain for mualani? ASIA server

[cedar flint]

wish I could

[nova flint]

sure, let's do it

[bright cape]

oh nice.

will have to see if we get ororon or xilonen rerun first

[cedar flint]

when someone says wish I could it’s mean they want but can’t

[kindred garnet]

what are some characters i could consider saving for?
not too concerned about meta, just wanna try out some new teams that other people might find fun + get some use out of characters that might usually stay benched

[rugged sparrow]

what in the

if you're not concerned about meta then pull for who you like

fun is already subjective as it gets

[kindred garnet]

i already have my faves

[rugged sparrow]

then just do a test run on each character later on and see who you like more

[kindred garnet]

idk i dont have any real preferences and its kinda hard to get a feel for specific teams when you're only trialling one of the characters instead of the whole team

[rugged sparrow]

well test runs usually give a semi-decent team to get the "playfeel" of said character

[kindred garnet]

i just feel that sometimes some people might have some unique teams/ideas i havent seen before which is why i ask

[rugged sparrow]

Idk what exactly are you looking for in terms of "uniqueness"

[kindred garnet]

whatever other people like that isnt just the same two meta teams filled with the strongest characters because they're the strongest

said it in the og message but i mainly wanna try out characters that typically get benched more often

[rugged sparrow]

yeah idk how I can help you

it still boils down to personal preference at the end of the day. like some people like using Sigewinne + Furina and just chuck it on teams they can think of. not even sure if Sigewinne fits your criteria of "fun"

doesn't help that a lot of Genshin chars play out similarly

at most I can recommend you to try out quickbloom Tigh (Tighnari/Nahida/Furina/Kuki).

no need to pull anyone just yet

unless you dont have Kuki then doomed

[kindred garnet]

think she's c6
i shall check out that team, ty
pretty sure the only 4 star im missing is the newest one

[wooden blaze]

I dont really know much about genshin but does anybody have some starter tips? Im level 15!

[rugged sparrow]

grind story/quest/explo
save up fragile resin until AR45
use original resin every day to level up chars/weapons/talents before AR45

if you're trying to go meta, try to invest on the more "useful" chars so you can clear Spiral Abyss (basically the end-game content) faster/easier.
get more primos, pull for chars you like > build teams around them.

most importantly have fun

[valid anchor]

I think almost got covered by OXD.

[wooden blaze]

Will do!

[rugged sparrow]

oh also depending on how much $ you spend in the game, avoid spending primos needlessly (pulling on standard banner or pulling on a banner u dont want, resin refresh, etc)

[wooden blaze]

Of course dummy

[rugged sparrow]

you have no idea how many ppl play Genshin not for fun but for tryharding

which is, understandable

[wooden blaze]

Was already the plan haha, i got like 1k primos rn

[rugged sparrow]

Genshin is fairly forgiving anyway if you mismanage your resources

grinding exploration/story/quests alone give you abundant of resources to work with

like, you need to majorly fuck up (double that) to make your account really unsalvageable

[wooden blaze]

xD

Im an experienced player trust
(Not)

[rugged sparrow]

if you ever have doubts just ask around

[valid anchor]

too forgiving

[rugged sparrow]

indeed

[valid anchor]

usually other games makes you eat the dust with **badly-managed or overly-nonused **resources

[rugged sparrow]

"oops I spent too much on this char guess I need to restart my acc"

[valid anchor]

you're resuming Kantai Collection literally. But, without the chance of restarting account.

[valid anchor]

you'll get used when you reach the 10 million in a jiffy

[viral mulch]

glorp

[rugged sparrow]

nyoom

[median glade]

clank

[dusty cape]

plink

[lethal tundra]

y'all how big is genshin gb size now.

[bright cape]

on PC?

on mobile, i have it at 22 GB after clearing up past quest resources

[lethal tundra]

pc

[rugged sparrow]

99.51 GB

might as well round it to 100GB, only JP VO installed

[lethal tundra]

[narrow folio]

200 GB soon

[quaint fern]

Still smaller than my Skyrim folder

[narrow folio]

Bro has every mod installed

[valid anchor]

for me, that. 93,2 GB. JP Voice only.

Mobile (Android) is 33,94 GB, JP voice only as well.

HoyoPlay size is around 400 MB

[cedar flint]

I think Genshin is over 100 gb for me

[valid anchor]

And, Cloud launcher is 400 MB.

[cedar flint]

since I remember having to download a add on on the ps4 cus the game was over 100gb and needed a add on patch

[valid anchor]

Minimum space requirement is 100 GB (recommended is 120 GB, same as console). and 40 GB for Mobile.

[valid anchor]

PS4 requirement is 120 GB. Yes, splitted into core game + resource package.

Only PS4 has that issue due hardware limitations. Most PS4 players hasn't replaced their console hard drive (into SSD) yet.

[cedar flint]

well most casuals won’t do such a thing

So ye

[quaint fern]

Most ppl are too afraid to even open a laptop

So yeah

Just the other day, I saw a PewDiePie video pop up in my feed bc he was building a pc

And 100% of issues was bc he chose the lian li a3 as a case

[valid anchor]

Cloud requirements are other stuff. Mostly...
Recommended: > 20 Mbps link speed, low latency to servers. Wifi 5+ or wired.
If you're going portable, you'll need a big data plan and 5G required (or you'll have huge lags)

[cedar flint]

no plans on playing cloud

[valid anchor]

the suitable option if you're having mac, linux or unsupported PC (below requirements).

or if your local install is fast as a slug

[cedar flint]

I think school pcs are better than mine at this point

[wooden blaze]

Like 96? 😭

Gb ofc

I got 40/50 gb on fl studio and like 30 on after effects 😭🙏
WITHOUT CLIPS TOO 💔

[wooden blaze]

I got 800mb download and 1gb upload yet i still use cloud 😭

Xbox game pass ultimate is the most underrated thing on world right now

But download speed is mainly game launcher too

There are my ranks from fastest to slug level

1. Xbox Gamepass (80gb cod in 10/20 mins)
2. Hoyoplay (90~ gb genshin in 25/30 mins)
3. Steam (50/60gb file takes around 39 mins)
4. Browser (its just slow 😭)
5. Epic 🤮🤮🤮
   (25 gb UPDATE took 2 hours ☹️)

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I'm using it. Right now, if you check my. Activity.

[wooden blaze]

Fr

Its so good

[valid anchor]

You can improve it more. See better-xcloud

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And I'm using it over browser!

[wooden blaze]

Same here!

Playnite launches it automatically from browser for me so i dont got no choice haha

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Also, this

[wooden blaze]

Hmmm

My playnite addon doesnt support better xcloud tho

Ohh its an extension

If you help me remind ill definitely install it 🙏

[valid anchor]

Browser extension. Over Chromium browsers only.

[wooden blaze]

No shit 🤦

[valid anchor]

Firefox?

[wooden blaze]

I know pretty damn much about tech and software 😭🙏

[wooden blaze]

Except Firefox of course but thats the reason why i don't use firefox

And opera gx is spyware

[valid anchor]

Lemme check but which browser are you using frequently?

[wooden blaze]

Brave!

Its fast and doesnt eat much ram

Opera gx ram feature basically just closes the app once it consumes too much ram 😭

I also need to do "some things with software" frequently so i use brave + uBlock for maximum safety

[valid anchor]

Brave isn't it?

[wooden blaze]

Wdym?

I meant like, for suspicious ads etc

I use my norton and built in wifi Security and some other thing i forgot the name of for dangerous websites

[valid anchor]

Brave is yet another broser based on Chromium

same as Edge or Opera.

okay, I'll DM the instructions. Keep messaging open

[wooden blaze]

The fuck 😭🙏

Dude chill

[wooden blaze]

I know?

You kind of acting like you know everything better and i dont know anything about pcs 😭

[valid anchor]

no problem. I'll give you the link and it'll be up to you to install the extension.

[wooden blaze]

Kind of hurts my feelings since my goal is to work at a tech company

[opal surge]

youre both getting language barriered

[wooden blaze]

You just sent me the link

[opal surge]

are you aware

[wooden blaze]

I know the instructions

[valid anchor]

sent~

[wooden blaze]

Stop acting like i don't know anything 😭
Not trying to be a meanie but i understand the instructions on the website

[valid anchor]

I'm sorta mutilingual (EN, SP, PT, a bit of FR and a bit of JP). I apologize if I miss something.

[wooden blaze]

I know brave is chromium based by the way

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how expensive is ultimate there?

[wooden blaze]

17,99 euros a month

[bright cape]

what artifact does collei hold on nilou bloom team?

with nahida already on deepwood

[valid anchor]

yikes! my wallet!
Here's... equivalent of 10,50€

[wooden blaze]

Europe is terror 😔

[valid anchor]

hmm... the EM set (Gilded dreams), I believe.

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I would give a chance to the support Natlan artifact set (Hero), but who knows.

[opal surge]

instructor

[bright cape]

ER EM EM?

[opal surge]

she should have no real ownership of blooms in niloubloom

her build can be whatever i think

[bright cape]

oh i see

that's just for other people's em

[valid anchor]

that's the plan

[bright cape]

i was about to give her my future citlali's artifact sets

i think it has tons of ER

[valid anchor]

hero? hmmm... not a bad idea, I think?

EM-focused Collei, as a random user just to have something else to build.

[opal surge]

dmg% in niloubloom doesnt do much

EM from ins is just better

[bright cape]

no i have instructors set built for citlali

[opal surge]

monkaS

i hope it has 200+ ER

(for citlali, not for collei)

[valid anchor]

EM-based bow, why not?

[bright cape]

i just need to roll better flower

but i am hearing even 200 is not enough for her

[young glen]

would this be a good raiden piece if i get anything into cd er or atk

[bright cape]

yep. if it balances ur crit ratio, for sure

[young glen]

rn her stats are terrible idk how to get more cr

[haughty lotus]

Circlet

[young glen]

probably cr circlet but i already have a cdmg circlet

[bright cape]

i think u need tons of changes

[young glen]

would thsi be a good offset piece

[bright cape]

yep

[young glen]

my goblet isnt that good ig

[bright cape]

for now, it will help u balance ur crit ratio a bit

[bright cape]

also try to stack a bit more ER

[young glen]

im going dual electro so i shouldnt need that much

[bright cape]

i think it's better to share enka card

[young glen]

my goblet and sands are dummies

i dotn have anything good for them rn

[bright cape]

ATK or ER sands would be better yep

that flower is really dope

[young glen]

er sands is gonna give me a bit too much er im guessing

[bright cape]

also talents n her levels would be nice

[quick osprey]

Any thoughts on how to improve? Besides Talent lv?
When he run runs I’m going for his C1.

[bright cape]

may be circlet

already looks good though

[bright cape]

also i just checked. solar pearl is not recommended

may be go widsith. with crit rate circlet instead?

[quick osprey]

That’s the only crit weapon I have

Now I’m just confused

[opal surge]

It needs elemental skill hits