📌gimshim-help

[rugged sparrow]

and even on Furina it's just, alright

[zinc tiger]

I was reading it and I think it might be good

[warm scroll]

BiS on reactionless talent% scaling nilou

(Don't ask me how I know this)

[rugged sparrow]

how so, Clorinde cannot manipulate HP on her own, nor her Elemental Skill being a part of her majority dmg share

she also doesn't benefit from the HP%

it's literally only there for the 88% cdmg which gets outshined by a lot of other weapons with lower cdmg but more useful passives

[zinc tiger]

You can use her with Furina ^^

[rugged sparrow]

you can but the passive is still useless

I literally mentioned all of the passives being useless on Clorinde

[zinc tiger]

You do furina ult and than passive triggers

[rugged sparrow]

🤦‍♂️

not only you get that part wrong, you're still missing the point

[zinc tiger]

Okay nvm

Should I wait unit Mistsplitter Reforged rerun for my clorinde weapon?

[supple perch]

optimal arle uses chev?

[rugged sparrow]

Mist is more universal, so it's entirely up to you

[zinc tiger]

Sorry I want find a good weapon I like and good on her

[rugged sparrow]

if you solely want to improve your Clorinde just get her sig

Mist is just a generally good 5-star sword that fits on almost every sword DPSes

[warm scroll]

Chevrolet teams are some of her best options but I was referring to clorox

[zinc tiger]

Okay

[warm scroll]

Can also consider mav

Mav is great in chev ol, although I heard pyro mc is already really good there

Forgot to mention pyro mc

[rugged sparrow]

it's ok nobody remembers PMC

[zinc tiger]

I am just trying to improve my Clorinde ^^ why I like her

[rugged sparrow]

I get it, Im just laying out the information
ultimately the decision making is yours

"I don't care about other sword DPS" - get Absolution
"I wanna play other sword DPS sometimes" - get Mist

[supple perch]

so what do you really mean by this?

[warm scroll]

Do you want to improve your existing teams or get new teams and more variety?

Latter option will make theater easier too

[zinc tiger]

I get your point tbh and I wish there was a way to change the sword looks to diff sword you own but not the status like a skin

[warm scroll]

The bar for clearing visionary difficulty in theater is much higher than 36* abyss

Purely because of the sheer amount of characters needed

[supple perch]

for more variety

[warm scroll]

Then save for xilo and maybe furina, but know that maybe neither of them will improve your clorox or arle

[supple perch]

oh i thought furina works on clorinde comps

[warm scroll]

She isn't necessary, and overload comps tend to be better in practice

[supple perch]

what about improving my current teams?

[zinc tiger]

I know there some improving to be done

[warm scroll]

C6 sara would be better than fischl for your clorox team

And you could get c1 clorox too

[supple perch]

my sara is c0 iirc

[warm scroll]

You could get c2 citlali for arle

Citlali's c2 is absurdly good

[zinc tiger]

What team is she good in?

[warm scroll]

Share your roster

[zinc tiger]

A bit out of date but I got Lan and Cloride

[warm scroll]

No chevrolet?

[zinc tiger]

Her?

[warm scroll]

Oh I didn't see

[zinc tiger]

I see all 4 star but Ororon

[warm scroll]

Honestly

I know clorox theorycrafters and speedrunners

They all agree that chevrolet is the best option until you reach leviathan levels of whale investment

[zinc tiger]

Is she good in a Citlali, furina, Dendro god fucker?

[warm scroll]

Citlali is kind of mid there

Even her c2 isn't useful enough

[zinc tiger]

Okay

[warm scroll]

You have an arle

And a gaming

[zinc tiger]

I used Raiden, Citlali, Furina, Dendro god fucker on a team and yea

[warm scroll]

Perfect use cases for citlali

[warm scroll]

Hyper fridge citlali wtf are you cooking

[zinc tiger]

Idk

[zinc tiger]

So yea that's what I used lol

So what team comp is good?

With her?

[wind bolt]

I auto read skill issue

[stone knoll]

3 gold on the bonus drop event 🫡

[north sentinel]

4pc tf or 4pc fohw for clorinde ?

i was building her with fohw and noticed people saying tf is better for her

[terse remnant]

fohw?

Ah whimsy

[north sentinel]

yeah

[terse remnant]

whimsy should still be clorinde’s best set unless somehow tf does higher with certain teams

they’re both good sets for her so if you have pieces on either set just use them

[north sentinel]

i mean i'm going with fishcl sucrose and kirara

[terse remnant]

according to some reddit posts on clorinde mains 4tf is only better in hyperbloom so yeah just go whimsy doesn’t matter

they are both good sets, if you don’t wanna invest just use pieces that you already have

[north sentinel]

i would have used zhongli but yeah i'm aggring after all

[terse remnant]

I think zhongli is a waste of space in there

your current team is good enough

[median glade]

ye bro glazing zhongli

[silk mango]

hi

can someone in world level 9 help me grind some boss mats

[north sentinel]

guys i'm oretty damn low on mora

where can i get some ?

i mean more than some

a lot

shit ton of mora

[terse remnant]

just buy bp

I’m also low on mora only 500k

leveling up 3 characters is a pain

[full marlin]

well crimson witch artifact work well on arlen?

[narrow folio]

Use glad

[full marlin]

ye, but how about crimson witch?

ill mix them up

its a pain to farm gladiators finale

imma just put some artifacts on her from hutao

[opal surge]

cwof is a bad set

[full marlin]

but it would work on her right?

[opal surge]

she would get 1/3 stacks for half of her uptime

if thats working in your eyes then sure

[narrow folio]

"Functional"

[rugged sparrow]

well it works because it gives more than 0 value at least

[narrow folio]

Less than Lavawalker 🚮

[opal surge]

true

i think its funny that its exceptionally bad on arle because she cant skill before uptime

[rugged sparrow]

unrelated but I bought Ellen skin
then broke my high score on Butcher
p2w tbh

[opal surge]

holy

[narrow folio]

Whale

[opal surge]

new vocielines motivated you to play better

[rugged sparrow]

honestly it's just good RNG that butcher didn't enter Ether Enhanced state for like 2 stun windows in a row

[narrow folio]

"Y'know I should be getting paid double for working overtime" 🗣️

[rugged sparrow]

now im just hoping no Lycaon skin next patch or Im forced to splurge more

[narrow folio]

We probably won't get more skins until like 2.x

[rugged sparrow]

ssshhh

[strange scarab]

is allgay good

[narrow folio]

Better Jingyuan

[rugged sparrow]

we're finally getting our first aoe lightning DPS char

*5-star

[opal surge]

allegedly aglae or however you spell her sheets for twice the DPAV as acheron

[narrow folio]

The Jingyuan slander agenda continues

[opal surge]

but im too stupid to read hsr sheets so I cant tell you how true it is

[rugged sparrow]

Jingyuan gets premium supports for how many patches and still fall short to 2.x DPS units

[narrow folio]

I remember when Acheron came out and everyone batted her, now she's apparently useless

HSR is funny

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

you know how in anime someone is introduced to be crazy only to be no diffed later on to show much more crazy another guy is

[rugged sparrow]

I lowkey forgot Acheron was lightning and aoe

[opal surge]

thats acheron now

[rugged sparrow]

Ellen

[opal surge]

[narrow folio]

I remember when Fei Xiao came out people immediately threw Acheron in the trash

[rugged sparrow]

(im sorry)

[opal surge]

fei xiao batters when they realize all content is aoe for the next patches

[narrow folio]

And that's why I pulled Herta

[violet gate]

She'll still carry moc/as though

[narrow folio]

Well mainly cuz she's hot

But I still pulled for her

[violet gate]

(Feixiao)

[opal surge]

shes good enough still yeah regardless

shes only 3 patches old after all

[rugged sparrow]

wake me up when HSR has more playable daddies like Gallagher

[opal surge]

[narrow folio]

So she's got three more patches in her

[violet gate]

Mydei maybe if you're interested LOL

[rugged sparrow]

nah

none of Chrysos Heir interests me except maybe Aglaea

[violet gate]

He's not my thing but I appreciate they didn't make him noodle figure

[opal surge]

mydei is too close in design to gilgamesh it makes me sus as to wether fate colalb might just be skins

[narrow folio]

That'd be funny but also sad

[rugged sparrow]

Aglaea pretty but why the fuck is she lightning

[violet gate]

Aglaea 😍

[terse remnant]

what is the convo about

[narrow folio]

To make Jingyuan players sad

[rugged sparrow]

ure telling me midyuan have any playerbase left?

[opal surge]

FSN UBW collab without gilgamesh would be kinda sussy but adding gilgamesh would also be kinda sussy with how mydei looks

[terse remnant]

I heard fate but I hear hsr as well

[rugged sparrow]

actually they probably got baited cuz Sunday

[violet gate]

No idea
Same reason why is mydei imaginary 💀

[rugged sparrow]

Therta being ice is also

[violet gate]

I mean her small version is also ice ig

[rugged sparrow]

none of her actual skill screams ice

[narrow folio]

Yeah this one I won't agree with

[rugged sparrow]

feels like quantum

[narrow folio]

Ew

[violet gate]

She looks like a quantum yea

[strange scarab]

I need 20 buffs for king yuan

[opal surge]

characters just make up their path and element as they go

[violet gate]

Remember when mono quantum was a thing for one patch before they destroyed it

[opal surge]

I still dont know why the stonehearts are not all preservation

or why jign yuan is erudition

[narrow folio]

Everyone from the Luofu should be Hunt, true

[rugged sparrow]

dont u love your Erudition DPS having bounce attack

[violet gate]

I mean paths aren't even paths at this point let's be real

[rugged sparrow]

not even fucking blast, bounce

[violet gate]

Lingsha being abundance but basically being a dps lmao

[opal surge]

I remember they were in the acheron stream like "uuuh but why is acheron nihility, could she be hiding some secrets in the lore?"

as if they cared at all about making paths make sense

[rugged sparrow]

tbf some chars make sense but here we are

[violet gate]

Nihility makes sense lore wise but gameplay wise she's an erudition in disguise
But paths don't mean much anymore

[narrow folio]

If path alignment made sense the roster would be awful

[rugged sparrow]

all Luofu chars being Hunt

spare for Luocha because he's abundance/not Luofu

[opal surge]

i mean not every character needs to be a pathstrider of their faction i dont think this is even true in the lore

but the stonehearts should be preservation

and the luofu generals should be hunt

[rugged sparrow]

Jingyuan is a hunt char alright

[opal surge]

like that seems obvious to me

but it isnt for the HSR devs i guess

[rugged sparrow]

Eru DPS damage chart on aoe: 📈
Jingyuan damage chart on aoe: 📉

[opal surge]

you can easily release one stoneheart a year and have them all be preservation imo

[violet gate]

In that case they should've saved swan for remembrance

[opal surge]

and one luofu general a year and have htem all be hunt

[rugged sparrow]

actually his chart probably flatlines

[opal surge]

it would even explain powercreep

the stoneheart of this year is stronger than the one of last year because theyre higher ranked

[rugged sparrow]

but Numby

ITTE, KABU

[narrow folio]

I can't imagine Jade or Topaz as preservation

[opal surge]

i forgot jade was already out ngl

even though i tried to pull jade lc

[violet gate]

I tried to pull jade got the child like a 10 pull in 😭

[opal surge]

[violet gate]

Hes e2 I cannot

[narrow folio]

Whale

[opal surge]

I was cooking mega himeko build with jade lc

but i didnt get jade lc unfortunately

[narrow folio]

[north sentinel]

i'm at 12k

[north sentinel]

leveling up four characters over here with all their weapons artifacts talents

[north sentinel]

that is't an option for me to be fair

[dusty cape]

oh god not that guy again

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[north sentinel]

?

[strange scarab]

Okay

[haughty lotus]

Mkay

[dusty cape]

k

[terse remnant]

Wtf

Spent 1/4 of my furina funds for this

it was a gamble

No regrets tho, big booba >>>

[silent iron]

uhm help?

[zinc tiger]

I need that weapon

[solar wasp]

nice E3
Is Jade's sig her current BiS?

Im not 100% on which one is on top

[winter sierra]

Improvements.. 🙏

[rugged sparrow]

[wind bolt]

4pc glad or 4pc whimsy

If vape/melt team more em

If overload or mono jist aim for similair stats like that

[haughty lotus]

Pyro goblet

[winter sierra]

okay thanks🔥

[lyric cargo]

am I done with the lantern rite grind? "Send and Receive Gift Envelopes" doesn't have a checkmark
but I don't see rewards for anthing in this section

[violet gate]

Yeaa you're done, the envelopes are just for fun I guess, you don't get much out of it no primos

[trail jewel]

Can any one help me get child

[dusty cape]

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/gleemies-gleemboss-gif-23542767

[trail jewel]

[forest venture]

[trail jewel]

anyone

?

[forest venture]

what wa

[silk cloud]

is this arlechinoo team good? i can change someone for those character +xianling

[forest venture]

by how exactly? should i give you genesis crystals? help you farm quest? spiral abyss?? pick your poison

[rugged sparrow]

replace Furina with Bennett and you're good to go

[silk cloud]

thanks!

[gritty heart]

I'm trying to farm emblem for Xiangling to use her with childe, but I'm having zero luck getting a 5* crit circlet
What would be better to use in the meantime - 5* atk or 4* crit?

[quaint fern]

Off piece her circlet

[forest venture]

the 5* artifacts will always get the best possible stats, so keep the worst ones first or the comment above

[rugged reef]

please suggest me some good teams...

[somber umbra]

The Complete Guide of all possible Quest Item mementos in Inventory 2025
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/36385295

[dusty cape]

how are we supposed to help you pull someone exactly?

[haughty lotus]

arle bennett chev fischl
tao xingqiu sucrose thoma(if c6 xingqiu)/amber

[rugged reef]

hutao doesn't deal that much damage so how about using chasca

[haughty lotus]

shes gonna do no damage without bennett

[trail jewel]

can sm1 help me explore natland

pls

[terse remnant]

🥀

[trail jewel]

pls sm1

[quaint fern]

Kyostinv

[full marlin]

is arlen actually one of the easiest charac to build rn?

like in terms of obtaining her artifacts and source materials

[haughty lotus]

Her artifacts can be easy if you played for a long time and passively got good gladiator pieces, otherwise you have to farm a domain with burning set

[narrow folio]

Any Natlan dps is the easiest to build assuming you don't overcap on cr

Since the set gives you a free 40cr

[proper urchin]

hi so like these are my stats for mavuika and i think there decent but like i still only do like 5k with her skill and when i do crit i do only 15k so like any advice on what to do?

[hazy lotus]

if that’s unbuffed/outside of burst/no reactions that sounds pretty normal tbh but showing ur actual artifacts would probably give us a better idea of what needs improving than stats screen

[proper urchin]

okay ill show u

[proper urchin]

i pair her with neuvilette mostly so thats with hydro

[hazy lotus]

circlet and goblet are fine and i’d say sands is okay for now too you really just wanna try to get rid of some of those dead rolls. doesn’t seem to be that much wrong w your build aside from idk if she tends to prefer atk or em as off field mavuika cause i personally haven’t really played her that way

[proper urchin]

ohhh okay thank youu

[haughty lotus]

replace flower and feather and use a team that centers around her

[proper urchin]

alright tyy

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/nilou-genshin-loading-error-gif-10082245428002820991

[haughty lotus]

arlan

[rugged sparrow]

frenzied punishment

[forest venture]

arlan

[silk mango]

Hi
How much er does neuvi need?

[strange scarab]

use the er calc on pin

[silk mango]

Ok
Thank u

[winter timber]

Can someone join my web event team 😭

[strange scarab]

No

[strange scarab]

nuynuy

[keen willow]

Did you see this on tiktok

[quaint fern]

tiktok 💀

[strange scarab]

Banned

[quaint fern]

tiktok daughter or game8 son

[strange scarab]

Child neglect

[dusty cape]

game8 son, I have been carried in many zzz events bc I am lazy and don’t have 3 hours for dailies and events

[cedar flint]

game8 daughter

[cedar flint]

3h is crazy when Dailies take 20 seconds

[primal latch]

My clorinde have 160 em. Is it better if i just use aggravate team?

4pc glad btw

[rugged sparrow]

sure, the EM rolls would be more useful on agg team
but if you have other better premium teams then

[primal latch]

Whats the premium team for clorinde?

[rugged sparrow]

for what team variant specifically

[primal latch]

Just the best team for her any variant. Thanks

[warm scroll]

Depends on your investment level

But it's usually going to be clorox / sara / mav / chevrolet

[primal latch]

Thankss

[cedar birch]

Does mavuika normal attack talent affect the attacks on the motorcycle

[lyric cargo]

@primal latch ^

[supple perch]

who is better for clorinde?

[rugged sparrow]

neither

[supple perch]

fr? neither can give dendro smth?

[rugged sparrow]

both wanna be in burning team

[supple perch]

ok

btw which i should choose? em or the skill up

i assume em?

[rugged sparrow]

for what team

[supple perch]

clorinde kirara

[rugged sparrow]

Clorinde doesn't do elemental skill dmg so yes, get EM

[supple perch]

isnt her e consider skill?

[rugged sparrow]

it's not elemental skill dmg, no

all of her attacks during E are considered NA dmg

[supple perch]

hmmm despite it all, seems like furina is quite good for my arle

lmao

[opal surge]

i love 0 fanfare furina

worse xingqiu

[rugged sparrow]

cant break 100k @opal surge

[supple perch]

do i have to go to these?

[opal surge]

🐳

i havent tried yet whats the lineup

[rugged sparrow]

Butcher Typhoon Marionette

Typhoon is also nerfed, now we have unlimited assist point when fighting it

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

I probs can squeeze the remaining points on ZY team but

[jolly junco]

L

[rugged sparrow]

whats ur score

[jolly junco]

I didn't do it yet

[rugged sparrow]

mf

[jolly junco]

but I will break 100k

[rugged sparrow]

do it

[jolly junco]

Can't be bothered yet

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

butcher is still anomaly shill

[rugged sparrow]

wcyd

ok I broke 100k @jolly junco

waiting for ur 100k now

[opal surge]

what do I even play on typhoon

[rugged sparrow]

idk just any team with 2 defensive assist unit works

[jolly junco]

Nice

[full marlin]

is harmonic whimsy domain easier to farm?

[rugged sparrow]

what do you mean "Easier to farm"

[full marlin]

i mean like does it consistently give good stats

ik crimson was a pain domain back then

cuz of how bad the artifacts stats it was giving

[keen willow]

Its ass

[full marlin]

is it as bad as crimson domain

[rugged sparrow]

all artifact domains are the same though

[full marlin]

yes but certain domains just gives so much shit

[rugged sparrow]

that's just confirmation bias

[full marlin]

example crimson

[keen willow]

Its just luck .. i got my arlecchino set in like two months

[opal surge]

theres absolutely no difference ina rtifact quality across domains

[keen willow]

Shimenawa has given me nothing but pain

[opal surge]

if you roll two die and one rolls a 1 and one rolls a 6 it doesnt make the second die better to roll

[forest venture]

Vermillion tho

[opal surge]

i dont think im getting 100k

im off to a rough start

[rugged sparrow]

F

[strange scarab]

Luck issue

[opal surge]

Unless I pull of a generational marionette ellen performance now

[keen willow]

Whimsy is especially shit because of those geo dudes

[full marlin]

i dunno abt yall but in my experience certain domains just gives out more shit than others

example i farmed in crimson domain for 8 months back in 2022

and i barely managed to get good stats

[viral mulch]

i understand

like technically it shouldnt be a thing but its just

some domains are better and some domains are horrible

[opal surge]

[full marlin]

while i only farmed for 2 months for ganyu artifact for blizzard strayed

that cant be a coincidence

[viral mulch]

its prob just impression bias cus technically it shouldnt be a thing

[full marlin]

i was consistently being lucky on blizzard strayer artifact stats

[viral mulch]

but that doesnt change me from saying fuck you whimsy

[keen willow]

If you want a conspiracy theory i think goblets have a 0% chance of being good

[viral mulch]

understandable

[opal surge]

its just that most people have fundamental mistunderstandings of how probability works it hink

also adding other factors such as blizzard strayer having less good substats as cwof

by nature

crit rate is devalued and em is not useful

for cwof em must be useful by default and its a no cv sett

[viral mulch]

at least i finished husk farming in 2 weeks

not going back in

[keen willow]

True husk was the best

[viral mulch]

when i eventually get itto(prob) and need a second husk set idk ill let future me do the job

[rugged sparrow]

dont mention Husk

my Itto stayed 190cv for 2 years fuck that domain

[viral mulch]

is it still 190cv

[rugged sparrow]

no

[keen willow]

I got husk for yunjin

[viral mulch]

i dont even know what itto stats should look like

[rugged sparrow]

227cv now

[viral mulch]

i once got reference from golden house homie but i forgor the details already

[rugged sparrow]

I mean just Chiori

• ER

cuz ik ur c6 Chiori doesnt run ER (probably)

[viral mulch]

so 100/230

[rugged sparrow]

pretty much

idk if this is the updated one

[viral mulch]

close enough

[opal surge]

Okay I am not doing a generational run on marionettes with ellen

this boss is ass wtf

[rugged sparrow]

I like Marionette actually

but Typhoon is even more of a freebie now

[cedar flint]

I’m busy doing the real endgame while you all fight

[viral mulch]

one thing i dont like about husk is that just using on overworld and seeing the countdown go like 4 3 2 1 triggers anxiety for no reason

[rugged sparrow]

gotta pump those numbers up kiddo

[opal surge]

i mean vampire survivors is literally just a pc check

[cedar flint]

I will when I try a run with wise

[rugged sparrow]

my FPS past wave 20: 📉

[cedar flint]

they should be more specific about those rankings tho top 2% of how many and what category

[rugged sparrow]

wdym what category

[cedar flint]

is it in Europe or worldwide

is it regional

[rugged sparrow]

u mean region

[cedar flint]

or server wide

so many unanswered questions

[opal surge]

its obviously region wise what

[rugged sparrow]

less questioning more grinding

[opal surge]

? xd

[cedar flint]

top 2% in all of Europe server 😎

[forest venture]

m6o5

[opal surge]

i love that i get more score if i ult with skk in stun

instead of fielding ellen

[rugged sparrow]

???

[opal surge]

I can finish first marionette stun with 14k if i ult with skk during stun window

and i finish 12k if i ult before and delay stun or if i dont ult

[rugged sparrow]

is this not because of performance points too

and u getting slightly shit RNG on the 12k one(s)

I usually only ult w/ Soukaku when Ellen is mid Sharknami (double Ellen EX) animation

[jolly junco]

what endscore did you get

I will do it soon, I just want to beat you

[rugged sparrow]

on which

[jolly junco]

overall

[rugged sparrow]

I might try swapping Ellen and ZY team and see

cuz Marionette heavily encourages ice too

[solar wasp]

Teams?

[rugged sparrow]

.

[opal surge]

pog they automodded

will i get sniped if I say free gift

50€?

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

[opal surge]

Im washed 😔

[rugged sparrow]

Negoatmata

[opal surge]

but scores can be improved in all 3 runs easily still

[solar wasp]

almost 30k

[solar wasp]

M2 Neko seems pretty strong

[fiery wigeon]

is this a valid team?

[rugged sparrow]

if you can manage XL's ER req yes

[fiery wigeon]

in this team she has 222 er with fav lance

[opal surge]

Play catch

[fiery wigeon]

alright it will be a little while until i can get the mora to build chevvy tahao but when i do i will try both and see what works

thanks for the help 🙏

[solar wasp]

Go long ⚾ 🤾‍♂️

[solar wasp]

Wait
Is that % next to your score how you compare to other ppl?

I was wondering what it ment

[rugged sparrow]

yes

basically top 3%

[solar wasp]

Ngl
How is barelly 4 stars in the top 50%

[rugged sparrow]

you overestimate the average playerbase of many games

[solar wasp]

Should be 35k but it didnt count my 3rd side
Seems like you need to get 1 star for it to count

[solar wasp]

yeah thats fair

[odd harbor]

what do i do with my third alt account? I guess just run ganyu melt?

no cons on anyone but stinky aether

[rugged sparrow]

it's an option. there's also national or Tigh agg/spread comp options

[opal surge]

Why are you pulling ganyu on every account

[odd harbor]

I already had ganyu on this one

[rugged sparrow]

she's cute

[odd harbor]

and the other alt account but i did pull her on my eu account because i got shenhe and mona and morgana is decent enough compared to a qiqi team

when you only have qiqi teams able to be built you do anything

[haughty lotus]

🤨

[wicked locust]

Why do u have 3 Alts to begin with

[odd harbor]

two are na from when i lived there

and i recently moved to eu so i had to start a new account

bc it was awful playing with high ping but i still do events on the na accounts to do pulls for funsies

[odd harbor]

yeah my main na account is clorinde hyperbloom I miss having good damage

but 200+ ping kills me

[opal surge]

Clorinde with ping

[rugged sparrow]

playing ZZZ without ping hindrance

[wicked locust]

Me with clorinde on 350 ping

[opal surge]

N6e angle

[jolly junco]

actually

[rugged sparrow]

ACKHULLY

[jolly junco]

this is a rare team where it's a burst every other rotation on xiangling!

[rugged sparrow]

I heard

GUOBA, GET EM

[jolly junco]

it's also a team where full EM xiangling is optimal

[rugged sparrow]

just lower your XL CD using cdr artifacts

[opal surge]

Just pull mav instead

[jolly junco]

btw I started doing deadly assault and left for now

[rugged sparrow]

did u hit 100k

[jolly junco]

butcher too cringe

[rugged sparrow]

L

[jolly junco]

Nah I wanted a clean butcher run

[terse remnant]

🥀

[jolly junco]

but I will beat you

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[terse remnant]

yo guys I got a question

what did she mean by doing something bold again

[cedar flint]

depends what she did before this panel or are you asking what bold means in this context

[terse remnant]

she was trash talking the basketball player + whispering in the ear

oh yeah she’s got J cup melons btw

I recommend reading this manga

[cedar flint]

is this really important info to what she did tho…

[terse remnant]

uh no

but anyway

[forest venture]

yangu

[cedar flint]

well being bold can come from confidence or courage something you wouldn’t usually do for example approaching a random girl you never met before and starting a conversation can be considered bold

bold decision for example can be something that has a risk to it coming back to the approaching a girl again the risk would be being rejected if you were to ask her out

but ig in this case the risk is subjective

since different ppl accept rejection differently

but that’s about it if I had to simplify the meaning of bold

at least one of them anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk

[neon flint]

Long time off genshin player
Are any of the 2 current banner characters op or they just avg or the one's coming are op

[jolly junco]

they're both good on-field damage dealers

furina is rerunning next patch and she is good

sigewinne is not

wriothesley is reasonable but not as good as arlecchino or clorinde (at least in my opinion)

[rugged sparrow]

I'd agree

[opal surge]

Almost objectively correct opinion

[rugged sparrow]

c1r1 Arle is just high ceiling for dolphin invest
c1r1 Clorinde while not as good have super good versatility in terms of teams

c1r1 Wrio is decentge but his best teams over fight over Arle best supports too and his ceiling is arguably lower

[opal surge]

Whale presupposing c1r1

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it's the only investment level where you should consider playing Wrio

c0r0 Wrio's not even Arle/Clor level

@jolly junco I increased my high score again

swapping ZY and Ellen was indeed the play

[warm scroll]

Idk, you could do wario mav things now

Mav wheelchair

[rugged sparrow]

I mean Clor also got Mav wheelchair

Clor overload with Mavge

[warm scroll]

Difference is mav gets a big melt with wario

[rugged sparrow]

true...

[warm scroll]

No idea how this sheets

[quaint fern]

also as a long time player you probably have decent glad for arle/clorox

so easy to build (probably)

[rugged sparrow]

how are u realistically melt Mav Q without compromising Wrio's dmg though

do u just Mav Q at the end of rot

[quaint fern]

you're not

wrio's cryo app is piss poor

idt you're ever going to realisically have his aura

[warm scroll]

Mav / bennett / wario / xilo

[rugged sparrow]

only time ure gonna have his aura is at the start
Wrio NA > Mav Q

[quaint fern]

okay but how much is she gonna do w no bennett

[rugged sparrow]

don't ask, EnigWa's idea
his sheet his problem

[warm scroll]

Yeah and even if he could overtake the pyro aura, mav's off field e melt hits like a truck

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

ta

https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/gift?code=11KU0MNDK2RG

[warm scroll]

Can sim this in wfpsim actually

[rugged sparrow]

no u

im monocryo/double geo Wrio enthusiast cuz I cba to play melt

[warm scroll]

I'm guessing ganyu does the same thing now

[rugged sparrow]

Treez said Mav doesn't supply enough pyro

unless u stagger CA

[warm scroll]

Although at that point it would be better to on field mav

[warm scroll]

You just swap out of ganyu and q, then get a few mav melts on field

[rugged sparrow]

real, supp Ganyu

[quaint fern]

which is why real ganyu mains dont use mav

[jolly junco]

nerd

[hybrid elk]

So I’m AR25 and it probably won’t matter since I’ll get better stuff in the future but should I put Lynette on Lions’s or Skyrider?(ill lvl whichever later) because I have chev and Lyney in the team so maybe lion’s but also I need a support so idk

Also this is a fontine only account

It’s one of my alt’s

[rugged sparrow]

Chev only works in a team with exclusively pyro + electro chars only fyi
but just use Skyrider so she can burst fast

[hybrid elk]

Yeah unfortunately I don’t have an electro yet and I think I’m not gonna pull for Arle or clorinde and save for Wrio for melt

But also Wrio is never getting another rerun- not for a century 😔

[opal surge]

It doesn't actually sheet that well

Unless you wanna do some degen shit with ttds wrio and

[rugged sparrow]

atp just pull Cit

and run an actual Mav team

[opal surge]

doing wrio n1 > xilo en2 > bennet eq > wrio overwhelm > mav qe is just not a good setup to do

even if you sac the cryo scroll and do the pyro scroll instead its still not good

i didnt sheet this myself but iirc practical rotations sheeted better for wrio when they didnt melt mav q and just did bennet eq > mav q> instead

[lyric cargo]

finally.

[jolly junco]

im not even sure how the best way is to distribute my teams for deadly assault

I think it should be miyabi on dancers

[rugged sparrow]

Jane Burnice on Butcher
Yanagi on Typhoon
Miyabi on Marionette?

[jolly junco]

no phys or fire weakness though

but that's probably best

[rugged sparrow]

I mean u want disorder

[opal surge]

wait true why am I playing ellen on dancers

[rugged sparrow]

and Miyabi does better in Marionette cuz that thing self-destructs against ice/electric

[opal surge]

I could also jane buhnice butcher and myiabi dancers

[jolly junco]

despair

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

am i stupid

[jolly junco]

this was a web event i didnt complete

[lyric cargo]

I'm not sure if it was worth it

[rugged sparrow]

can complete solo but it's like nearly a week worth of logins

[jolly junco]

aint no way im doing some dumb shi every day for some minor rewards

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

cheers to the interface making it look like it gives 1000 + 2000 + 3000 + 4000 primos

only common sense stands in the way of that conclusion

[opal surge]

+5000 purple books

[rugged sparrow]

I can level up Chev

rn no Mora no books after Lan Yan

[opal surge]

this patch was a difficult one for my books too yeah

what releasing mav + citlali together does to a person

[shy ravine]

Fuck man I wanted electro

[lyric cargo]

let me check how many books I still have..
my mora since 5.0 only knows one direction

[jolly junco]

actually jane and burnice is pretty good on it

jerry cooked

[rugged sparrow]

[jolly junco]

I think this team can 30k+

[rugged sparrow]

cuz Jane likes to dodge too which is good for perf point

my Miyabi/Yanagi team has fuckall perf point on Butcher cuz I legit almost not dodge

[warm scroll]

Good to know

Mav is still better than xl there right?

[opal surge]

Yeah

Unless wrio is C6 iirc

Mav isn't able to keep up with C6 wrio I think

[lyric cargo]

130 + 4665/4 + 5417/20 = 1567.1
so like the equivalent of 1567 purple books left

I still claim resin + char exp from teapot, no mora
if I run really low, I'll switch to claiming mora

[sick quarry]

hey guys im in desperate need of primos what do i do.. i cant progress in the story

i only got mualani and tighnari and i cant even complete their domains

[quaint fern]

wdym you cant progress in story? are you adventure rank locked?

have you tried cooping their domains?

[forest venture]

are you having trouble farming your character strengths

[quaint fern]

now that's commitment

[forest venture]

uhh did i say it out loud

yea i gotta go

[sick quarry]

na i cant engage in combat at all

[quaint fern]

are we playing the same game?

[sick quarry]

yea

i only got tighnari and mualani

[forest venture]

pvp??????

[sick quarry]

mb i meant combat

yall actin like i made a cure for cancer or sumn calm

[quaint fern]

Sounds like a build issue

Mualani is pretty easy to play

Do you need help with team building?

[sick quarry]

cant even do her artifact domain

[quaint fern]

You can just coop it

[sick quarry]

bro they all die in an instant

[quaint fern]

Play a healer and no one cares if you do 0 dmg

[sick quarry]

its not like they doin any dmg fr

[quaint fern]

Are you running max level domain?

[sick quarry]

yeah

[quaint fern]

High AR players coop it all the time

[sick quarry]

cuz i need dat gold artifacts

[quaint fern]

Okay you shouldn't really be having an issue in coop

[forest venture]

at least have a c0 xiao main to carry you

and there's world bosses, they also have 5 star artifacts

[quaint fern]

You can ask for carry here if no luck in random coop

[sick quarry]

i guess this is a call for help

[quaint fern]

Random coop runs might be slow but I've never really had issues in natlan domain

[forest venture]

yes, just not in taiwan/eu

[sick quarry]

im eu

[quaint fern]

I just get pissed in coop when the world owner decides to play DPS and the rest of us go support

[forest venture]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-run-duck-run-duck-running-running-duck-gif-7950668956099519229

[quaint fern]

And then they hit like a wet noodle

[sick quarry]

?

[quaint fern]

And then I check the coop members and they're ar 45

Like bro 💀 play a support man

[forest venture]

i cant help you coop sorry

[sick quarry]

its ok

[quaint fern]

Yeah like if you need help team building you can send your roster here

But I'm a bit confused as to why you can't complete domains in coop

[sick quarry]

Can some one PLEASE help me explore sumeru to get some sigils? Pls im pity 50 on chronical and i dont want to waste those wishes, (724697538) (WL:9)

[forest venture]

if there is one wish i can get in this world, i really want to set up an EU account

[quaint fern]

I don't have the time to take care of more than one account

[forest venture]

neither do i also have the time to handle my NA acc, it's all but benchwarmers

[quaint fern]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNgrku2z_iBlMcmcA1ngN4PzYlMqnPvXf&si=RIdYGATH8iiT5Ddc

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNgrku2z_iBkqk2azKnInfHr_jNxMuA3t&si=eDTU67W_euyP7rHN

[forest venture]

it's sumeru not natlan

[quaint fern]

Oh I can't read

[sick quarry]

Yea BUT THANKS FOR THE HELP!

[quaint fern]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNgrku2z_iBlpc2dBpGlrCRNGZGa149K2&si=ZCvlPYD0_lzg_lpJ

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNgrku2z_iBmyZWKBxKwMeR0vLDet0Axh&si=Vz0q2TpUp2s2oooT

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNgrku2z_iBl0tBewt95MxCePTnNcmbKQ&si=dbr4fy7TyEZn9gfF

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNgrku2z_iBnirU92LnTy-zcKR0ywMU-w&si=gcP4pLkQn-oXtwwr

Also are you sure you want to do Sumeru???

I enjoyed inazuma exploration WAAAAY more than sumeru

I hated doing sumeru explo

[forest venture]

the hard part is over, they can explore with the guidance of an ingame underground map

[sick quarry]

Its the easiest way for me to get primos

like i have almost everything at 20 something %

[quaint fern]

Not even that

It's just that everything is so sparsely populated

[sick quarry]

btw how do i get that red thing? the flying pet

[quaint fern]

And the chests are so spread out

[quaint fern]

Sorush? It's a world quest

[sick quarry]

which one?

[meager heath]

is this character any good

[rugged sparrow]

Arlecchino is a good DPS yes

[sick quarry]

Yea shes really good

[white birch]

Which one is better for Furina?

[hazy lotus]

are u c0? c0 tends to prefer hp goblet

also depends on your stats cause one has a good 2 more rolls of cr so if ur low on cr lean towards that one

[meager heath]

what is the best team out of my characters

[nimble bison]

anybody got a support characterfor theater i could use in EU? i have c2 r4 mavuika, im looking for c2 r1+ characters i dont own

[white birch]

She’s c2 and her stats are 90/240.

92.6/243.9 to be exact

[hazy lotus]

at c2 hp and hydro are about equal so right technically probably has a little more value but u could go for more cr to get closer to 100% cr since u have a lot of cd. honestly don’t think the difference is very big between either one though if u care that much u could optimizer it

[white birch]

If the difference isn’t that much I’ll just keep the right one.

[quaint fern]

On the contrary, if you're using her in some double hydro team, it might be worth losing a bit of Furina damage and using that hydro gob as an off piece

Bc that's really good for s goblet

[shy ravine]

Mf just don't like her high er

[north sentinel]

my current team is clorinde kirara fishcl and sucrose and i just got lanyan should i replace her with anybody in the team ?

like which one is better for aggr sucrose or lanyan

[gleaming niche]

guys what should the crit dmg to crit rt ratio be

[narrow folio]

If you're already using Kirara then you don't need another shielder

You could swap Kirara for Nahida and then use Lanyan in place of Sucrose if you want but the team is fine as is

[narrow folio]

1:2, ideally

[gleaming niche]

ohh okayy ughh it's so hard to get enough crit rate on artifacts

[dusty cape]

circlet my beloved

[gleaming niche]

yes but still

I always have much more crit dmg on all others

is 54/134 better to run than 42/156

😭

[opal surge]

^yes

[dusty cape]

yes

[opal surge]

you can test this easily by multiplying them

[gleaming niche]

okay thank you guys

yeahh but idkk I think I'm just tripping cus the first one seems lower to me for some reason

[opal surge]

0,42*1,56 = 0,655 | 0,54*134 = 0,724

0,724 > 0655

[gleaming niche]

right okay

[median glade]

https://tenor.com/view/lucy-zzz-zenless-zenless-zone-zenless-zone-zero-gif-11548754502163398045

[fathom prawn]

Does cr and cd matter a lot for a full support furina? She’s got 70% cr and 143% cd rn 🥲

[haughty lotus]

So so true

Prydwen my beloved

[median glade]

kindly share your thoughts on my twerking

[feral reef]

if prydwen doesnt say its good
i dont wanna hear about it

[quaint fern]

She's still going to do a good chunk of damage just by virtue of being furina

[bright cape]

that's great. what weapon is she using?

try to give her a good amount of er too

[fathom prawn]

She’s on r1 festering desire and I think she’s at 180% er?? I’ve just been wondering bcz I’ve seen a lot of people with really high crit ratios 🧍‍♀️

[bright cape]

she ascends with crit rate. so it's slightly easier

with festering, u might want to push cdmg slightly more

[trail jewel]

can anyone help me with eploring natland pls

[fathom prawn]

Ty 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️ I’ll try to get more cd

[bright cape]

u already have 1:2 crit ratio.

but festering gives u 12% crit rate for free

so might as well balance

[bright cape]

what help do u need?

is it puzzles?

[trail jewel]

just exploring

oculi

[quaint fern]

@trail jewel

Help yourself

Or use interactive map

Tbh I wouldn't worry about occuli

Just try to find chests and find them passively

Then once you hit the required reputation level, you can get the occuli resonance stone

[bright cape]

we are lvl 10ing xinyan tomorrow

[quaint fern]

If you don't want to do exploration, no one is forcing you to

A lot of players really dgaf about exploration

[bright cape]

do our compass work on coop?

[quaint fern]

I forgor

Like there's a couple strategies that make exploration more manageable

I like to split regions into smaller chunks

Like by geography or something

[bright cape]

otherwise exploration on other player's account would be weird

i just mark everything i find on interactive map

[quaint fern]

And then just fully explore those regions before moving onto the next area

[quaint fern]

I don't think you can, but I haven't tried this in so long

[bright cape]

i don't think so too

[bright cape]

do u play wuwa?

[meager glade]

can some one let me join their world to hunt praetorian golems? im WL8 on NA

[quaint fern]

Nob

[bright cape]

u can join mine

600095296

[quaint fern]

Yeah I was about to say if you still need in like 3 hrs

But go there ^

[quaint fern]

You should specify WL 9 btw

[meager glade]

thank you

[meager glade]

im ar 56 and wl 8

[quaint fern]

WL 8 can join WL 9

[bright cape]

they changed it

[quaint fern]

You should get better drops?

I forget if anyone checked normal enemy drops

[bright cape]

[meager glade]

i think it do have better drop

[quaint fern]

I'm sure for bosses but idk about mobs

[bright cape]

oh nice. u should be getting minimum 3

[quaint fern]

They're hunting the normal mob right? Or are they doing the boss

[bright cape]

dunno what praetorian golems are?

[meager glade]

normal guys

arlec weapon

[bright cape]

oh i see

i have been rocking PJWS

n gladiator

she still slaps

[quaint fern]

If I had her I'd be using white tassel LOL

actually when I checked, tassel and missive weren't too far apart

[bright cape]

nah. that would be too much meme

[quaint fern]

At least for my artifacts

[bright cape]

PJWS is only 85% of sig

[quaint fern]

Okay well I don't own a pjws 😔

And I don't care about her enough to roll sig

• I'm only at like 200 pulls

And those are being dumped on Furina if no xilo rerun in 5.5

[bright cape]

i should be saving for xilonene. but lanyan 😭

at least i got c7 cheveruse

[meager glade]

awww

[bright cape]

it's weird. i was lacking in pyro prevously. now i have more than required

3 days remaining. may be one pull can get me c2 lanyan

i have gotten all primos I can for now

[meager glade]

thx for letting me join your world

[bright cape]

no problem

welcome

does venti glider match her?

[trail jewel]

Can sm1 boss hunt w/me

[bright cape]

what id?

[trail jewel]

?

[bright cape]

ur id. so i can join

[full marlin]

idk whats happening with my arlen but somehow her ultimate is so fast recharge

is that like part of her skill?

[opal surge]

if you do EQE on arle you have half her energy back by default

[quaint fern]

Tbf she generates 5 particles for no reason

[opal surge]

10 particles on 60 cost burst

All new characters make 5 particles

making less than 5 is kinda criminal

[quaint fern]

Inazuma flashbacks

Furina in single hydro

[opal surge]

actually xilonen makes 4 xd

[quaint fern]

Okay but you just give her fav and do two skills per rotation anyways

[opal surge]

furina makes 7-9

[haughty lotus]

Sorry I was 0 cycling MoC with with my T-0 queen acheron

But true…

[warm scroll]

Yes wtf is up with that

Why does xylophone's 7s cd e gen 4 particles???

Same gen as klee e, except her e is 20s cd

[bright cape]

who can use this?

[wicked locust]

Xiangli-

/jk

[strange scarab]

Truezhe

[warm scroll]

Worse than the catch

Looks good for shenhe in situations where you don't need favge? Monocryo teams ig

Xiao could use it too

Not bad for xiao actually

30% er is the perfect number

And he does e right before q

[supple perch]

hmm is thoma good for clorinde? i see his shield has low duration

also what is this effect

[nova swift]

The sword coming down?

[supple perch]

ye

[full marlin]

what should i improve with arlenchino

[haughty lotus]

enka.network

[nova swift]

try to get to 95% crit rate and 350% crit damage

[full marlin]

dafuq

lmao

no srsly tho

is my build alright?

[nova swift]

Not as alright as you

[nova swift]

That's the pneumaousia attack that does pneuma or ousia aligned damage based on the character. Every single Fontaine character has it

[full marlin]

?

[violet gate]

Crits seem good, attack is low but I'm assuming it's because you're using white tassel
If you show your build with enka.network then people will be able to see the actual pieces and lyk what to replace/etc

[full marlin]

whats enka network

first time i ever heard of that tbh

[violet gate]

Its a site where you can basically have a build card made, make sure character is showcased on your profile in game and then put your uid in the site

[full marlin]

oh

[violet gate]

https://enka.network/

[full marlin]

here

[dusty cape]

why does she have an hp sands

[dusty cape]

level your talents, use a different sands (atk or em), and you can switch out one of your artifacts with an offpiece

[full marlin]

according to the guide it works well on her

so i gave her that

[dusty cape]

none of her dmg scales with hp what guide are you using

[full marlin]

uhh the one listed in the pins

[dusty cape]

?????

[full marlin]

oh

[full marlin]

which one then

[violet gate]

If you play her with vape/melt then em sands should preform better

(Since you have scarlet sands)

If you play overload or mono pyro then stick with attack

I think generally people go with attack though

Since she scales largely off it

You should also get her 4pc gladiator set or her bis set (whimsy) iirc those two work best

[full marlin]

then that would mean i need to rremove some of her crit rate

[violet gate]

I don't think she takes full advantage of cw

[full marlin]

and crit damage

[full marlin]

well its the only thing i got for her rn

[violet gate]

Then at least get an attack/em mainstat

Can guarantee you a shit sands with atk/em will preform better then an hp one

[full marlin]

alr then ill see what ive got for her

[violet gate]

Can continue farming and strongboxing glad set to get her a build

But fir now yea priority should be atk/em sands

[full marlin]

here

just replaced it with Atk

[violet gate]

You should see better damage provided you're using her in a reaction based team👍
Just start farming for whimsy/glad if you really want her to shine but this should do for now

[full marlin]

thanks

not really knowledgable when it comes to building charac lol

been playing since 2021

[violet gate]

Yep, I think the 4pc of cw doesn't do much for her so ig you could go 2pc2pc for her as stated in the guide. Focus on getting her a full glad/whimsy tho and you'll be set

[full marlin]

i regret sacrificing my good glad artifacts back then

[violet gate]

Yea I didn't have a good 4pc so I farmed her signature set

[warm scroll]

Just use optimizer

So you don't have to mald about which set to use

Saves a lot of time and you'll always be using the best set available

[rugged sparrow]

but muh feelscraft

[white birch]

How much of a difference is there between Furina c0 and c1?

[north sentinel]

is light of foliar incision good for clorinde (it's the only 5 star sword that i have ) ?

or maybe i should get finale of deep for her ?

[warm scroll]

In terms of a total damage increase for the team, it amounts to ~12%. In terms of the total dmg% gained, it's 37.5% at t10 q

[warm scroll]

Foliar is good

Better than finale

[supple perch]

how do genshin do hp calculation

is there a calculator somewhere

[warm scroll]

Gets more value in agg with em buffs

[warm scroll]

What do you mean hp calculation?

[rugged sparrow]

like... characters HP?

it's super straightforward

[supple perch]

ye

it's not adding up somehow

[rugged sparrow]

just base HP * HP% multipliers + flat HP

[warm scroll]

It works the exact same way as atk

[supple perch]

i want to check if i have exact 40k

[warm scroll]

Ya

[supple perch]

what's flat hp? wep and artis?

[bright cape]

hydro resonance can add 25%

[rugged sparrow]

anything that's not % value

[supple perch]

so base is only the hp when they are leveled up, then multiplied by every other hp percentage you have like artis and wep, then add the flat ones?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[supple perch]

hmm strange, it's a bit higher still

[rugged sparrow]

[supple perch]

[rugged sparrow]

you have 200% hp stats?

[supple perch]

no but when you multiply percent isnt 100=2? and 200 is 3?

[rugged sparrow]

right

[supple perch]

so i like have 110 when i counted

[rugged sparrow]

111% then
I usually go all the way to 7052 + (7052 x HP%)

such a roundabout way

but yeah numbers aren't adding up

can you post enka, out of curiosity

[supple perch]

oh i got it

[rugged sparrow]

so what was the problem

[supple perch]

still kinda off by "2"

[supple perch]

i was using wrong decimal on percentage

[rugged sparrow]

just decimals issue

[supple perch]

well 1.1% was causing it

[rugged sparrow]

yeah what I meant is, some base stats have decimals cuz yes

idk which char is that but Thoma for example has 6090,77 HP at level 50/60

[supple perch]

chev

well seems like i have to go with 3 hp main stat

[rugged sparrow]

Chev at 50/60 I assume

[supple perch]

ye

[rugged sparrow]

[supple perch]

also do i nob or the scroll set

[rugged sparrow]

either or works, Nob if no one's using it, otherwise Scroll

they're pretty similar to each other so just use whichever with the best subs

[supple perch]

ye thinking i would go nob to thoma, then scroll for chev

[rugged sparrow]

you can also run pyro MC instead of Thoma

then Nob goes to Chev

[supple perch]

but no shield, i would have to get another sword for clorinde

[rugged sparrow]

[north sentinel]

overload or aggr for clorinde ?

[rugged sparrow]

either

[north sentinel]

no like i mean which type of team

[viral mulch]

either

[north sentinel]

then which type of team is good ?

[rugged sparrow]

either/both

[urban ivy]

Who can use this other than Mavuika? (Can't be an offpiece

[rugged sparrow]

other Natlan DPS (Mua, Kinich, Chasca)

[north sentinel]

no like my current team is clorinde fishcl sucrose and kirara

[rugged sparrow]

ok and

[forest venture]

pyro mc

[north sentinel]

wanted to see wouldn't it be better to switch to a overload team

with chevreuse

[rugged sparrow]

do you have c6 Chev and Mavuika

[north sentinel]

i have c2 chev

[rugged sparrow]

then it's likely not better sheet-wise

but the difference is marginal so just run whichever

[urban ivy]

Which one of them scale with atk?