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warm scroll
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Like what is the point of it

rugged sparrow
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I think BoL is fine, it's just... not explored further

warm scroll
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It beats natlan racism at least

nova swift
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Not as good as you

rugged sparrow
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could've gotten more BoL-related chars but here we are peeposhrug

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instead of get Nightsoul system

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worst part is Nightsoul is also ingrained into the lore so the possibility of non-Natlan char having it is PepeLaugh

warm scroll
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At least nightsoul made exploration fun in natlan

rugged sparrow
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it does, I just believe they can make it work without Nightsoul anyway

warm scroll
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Do you think we'll get more racist mechanics

rugged sparrow
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I won't be surprised, but I fucking hope not

warm scroll
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It's made teambuilding so uninteresting

rugged sparrow
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it's literally a powercreep in the worst sense

warm scroll
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Xilo, mav and citlali being too strong is a problem too, nearly every team wants one of them now

rugged sparrow
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you have chars with strong kit and give them specific tools only they can use

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like look at MH set

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can be salvaged with some chars (Xiao mainly)
and then Furinage enables it

warm scroll
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MH is already powercreep but at least it's more respectable than obsidian

rugged sparrow
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Obsi is just
"lol use Natlan char loser"

warm scroll
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Obsidian is just a natlan-only 40% cr stat stick kek

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Like wtf is hyv smoking

rugged sparrow
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not to mention the 2p is fairly ok on its own

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15% dmg

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it's not like Mare that only limits it to NA/CA

warm scroll
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The absolute state of this game is hilarious HuTaoWheeze

rugged sparrow
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next artifact: if you're a Fatui harbinger u get 200cv for free

warm scroll
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Gaming outperforming majority of 5* characters

rugged sparrow
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Xianyun wheelchairing plunge DPS

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and now pyro DPSes get to forward melt cuz Cit Yupge

warm scroll
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Citlali is wheelchairing just as hard rn

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Especially with c2

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Citlali c2 is so broken, it's like 2 cons in one

rugged sparrow
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"What's that, u want to fit 4p Instructor's but u can't?"

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mfw a const gives me one whole sands and a half
also -20% more res shred cuz why the fuck not

warm scroll
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It amounts to like

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35% more damage on its own? That's with prior res shred

rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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That is massively higher than even furina c2

rugged sparrow
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at the very least Furina is usable outside pyro/hydro
ignoring the fact that pyro DPSes are already overglazed pre-Cit anyway

warm scroll
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I remember thinking furina c2 couldn't be topped ever

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Instant 100 dmg% is absurd

rugged sparrow
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I'd say it's still there, it's just circumstance/meta enabling pyro DPS too much AINTNOWAY

warm scroll
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Yeah she's still great

rugged sparrow
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not to mention our next region is Snezh
which, logically speaking, should be loaded with cryo enemies
another pyro glaze? AINTNOWAY

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inb4 no cryo enemies in sight

warm scroll
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Whether we get pyro or cryo glaze

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It's another win for pyro

rugged sparrow
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dendro dead in the ditch

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doesnt react with cryo so Tsaritsa is gonna be useless for them

warm scroll
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I don't regret skipping all of sumeru

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Didn't get a single sumeru 5*

rugged sparrow
warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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not even Nahida?

warm scroll
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Not even nahihi

rugged sparrow
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madlad

warm scroll
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Knew dendro was not good long term

rugged sparrow
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ehh wouldn't say "not good" since they can still clear abyss

warm scroll
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I mean compared to other stuff

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Like if you are the type to invest a little

rugged sparrow
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compared to other stuff
the other stuff: redhead racist biker

warm scroll
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The actually strong dendros rn are emilie and kinich

rugged sparrow
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this girl shows up in your meta pool wyd

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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double?

warm scroll
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And my klee team is 170k dps

rugged sparrow
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u mean triple Yupge

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but just be me and put Mav as E bot duty on Klee team out of spite

warm scroll
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It's just sad

rugged sparrow
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cooking Emilie/Mav/Klee rn but I don't have Kokomi for last slot
currently the most ideal why

warm scroll
hazy lotus
rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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Wait are you cooking burger

rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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Emilie burger 😭

rugged sparrow
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and Kok is perfect fit since non-oppressive hydro aura + sustain slot

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also totm +ttds brainrot cuz yes

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r5 Earthshaker + Cinder Mav Yupge

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(I dont have Spine)

warm scroll
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Emilie is kind of insane

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If only she didn't have meh cons after c1

rugged sparrow
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homegirl presses EQ and does Emillion DPS

warm scroll
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If she had chiori-tier cons she'd be the strongest off fielder in the game

rugged sparrow
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turns her into on-field
except hers is bad omegalul

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*comparatively bad

urban flint
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Is it possible to join someones coop world, I need 3 rainbow roses for my Arlecchino, Thanks

warm scroll
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Meanwhile chiori c6 can compete with the amp meta through sheer mv/s, she's like neuv

urban flint
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NA wl8

urban flint
quaint fern
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wait was wl 8 joining wl 9 this patch or the coming patch, I forget

rugged sparrow
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should be this patch?

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I also don't remember HOLYFUCK

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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petra Yelan AINTNOWAY

rugged sparrow
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leave sim scam out of this

warm scroll
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🤓

quaint fern
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ganyu mains trying to tc mavuika teams and giving up bc it would be better to just run ganyu as a cryo support

rugged sparrow
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reminded me of Keqing + Tigh team sim and Keqing ended up sheeting highest with 4p Nob + FS and just EQE swap out

quaint fern
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@urban flint 601765342

rugged sparrow
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that's what Im doing with Mav on Klee team rn

urban flint
quaint fern
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the state of cyro in 2025 😔

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reactions: ass
supports: ass

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like hoyo fr could not give citlali 20% cryo shred?

rugged sparrow
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wait for pyro Citlali

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cryo + hydro shred and enabling forward vape

quaint fern
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I wish for faster pyro citlali

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OPPA

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but if you didn't need to shove her a million ER and particles

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and actually does support or does decent off field dps

rugged sparrow
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sir this is wendy's

strange scarab
cedar flint
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imagine not being world lvl 9

warm scroll
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My goat

rugged sparrow
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c6 where

warm scroll
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Maybe in the future

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I really like chiori

rugged sparrow
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not as much as void does

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man glazes Chiori day and night and in his sleep

warm scroll
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Lol

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Void's propaganda worked on me

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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@near prism

warm scroll
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kek oh no he won't like that

near prism
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Sup

warm scroll
warm scroll
near prism
warm scroll
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@near prism what do you think

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Did I succeed this time

cedar flint
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ngl not a fan

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as a chiori glazer

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looks weird

warm scroll
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😭

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I need one that's decently sussy because I'm a degenerate

cedar flint
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I do want to c6 her as well eventually her c6 is fun dps

rugged sparrow
cedar flint
nova swift
near prism
near prism
rugged sparrow
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but void how else are we gonna respectfully stare at our favorite chars

warm scroll
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REAL

cedar flint
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I don’t show my chiori build cus it’s ass rn tho

rugged sparrow
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I mean look at my profile banner

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I'm no less of a degen

warm scroll
near prism
rugged sparrow
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am I

warm scroll
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🙏

near prism
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Yes

rugged sparrow
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maybe I'm just good at hiding it

near prism
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I assure you, you are far less degen than enigwa

rugged sparrow
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hah

warm scroll
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Oh no

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Void slaughtered my rep in this server

cedar flint
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I been slacking I’m sorry 🙏

rugged sparrow
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why does everyone and their moms have c2 Chiori

near prism
cedar flint
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cus she deserves it

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and I just got lucky while getting the last con I needed for gorou

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since I only planned to get c1

near prism
rugged sparrow
cedar flint
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sounds like you don’t like her enough

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since c1 is a must

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also I think the chiori picture I used is nice especially since I found it like a moment ago

warm scroll
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Meanwhile I struggle to find images

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My criteria is very specific

cedar flint
rugged sparrow
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it's a garbage const for me

cedar flint
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it removes her construct requirement

rugged sparrow
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since I always run her with construct KleekIcant

cedar flint
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what if the construct was just destroyed

rugged sparrow
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???

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you know the doll remains anyway if the initial construct is destroyed right

cedar flint
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before switching into chiori

rugged sparrow
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  • I run Itto so
cedar flint
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but either way c1 is a huge quality of life

rugged sparrow
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not the case for me, effectively does nothing

cedar flint
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well that’s already a different problem of only running one team

rugged sparrow
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and labeling it a "must pull" const is not a problem? KEKHands

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"must pull"

me showing it's not a must
"it's a different problem!"

cedar flint
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it is if you are a real geo main

rugged sparrow
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"real geo main"
honey I probably invest more on my geo chars than your entire roster combined KEKHands

cedar flint
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well I’m not a good example cus I’m not a Genshin dweller but I do main more than one geo dps that doesn’t summon constructs

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but I can respect a itto glazer

rugged sparrow
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bro I have all geo chars 90/90

nova swift
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yeah but do you have every single one triple crowned?

rugged sparrow
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at least 1 crown
I save triple for 1 char of each element (Itto for geo)

gleaming niche
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Hey guys, is there a specific way to play hyperbloom? I’m running nahida, raiden, kuki and yelan, how do I activate it?

gleaming niche
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aaa okay okay

lethal tundra
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y'all. can i use raiden with clorinde

gleaming niche
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do I replace her with xingqui

rugged sparrow
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run either or
it's really just unga bunga team, you activate all their bursts > use Nahida on-field to spam NA

rugged sparrow
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I mean you can
it's not gonna be an optimal team though KEKHands

gleaming niche
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when do I use their skill

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
gleaming niche
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alrighttt

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thank you

lethal tundra
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do i need fischl c6

rugged sparrow
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rotation goes roughly like Nahida EQ > Xingqiu EQ > Kuki E(Q) > Yelan EQ > Nahida basic attack spam until Xingqiu's + Yelan's burst and Kuki's skill run out > repeat

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
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which set shall Fischl use to be in a team with Clorinde

gleaming niche
rugged sparrow
gleaming niche
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aaa okay okay thank you

rugged sparrow
gleaming niche
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who can I pair eula and raiden with then

rugged sparrow
gleaming niche
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no

strange scarab
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benner

rugged sparrow
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what chars do you have then
general setup for Eula/Raiden is usually cryo battery + buffer

gleaming niche
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aaa okay I mean I have like almost every single 4 star

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5 stars there’s nothing I can use then

rugged sparrow
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Bennett is good but circle impact™️

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double mald when playing Eula

gleaming niche
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Idk what that means 😭

rugged sparrow
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his buff is limited to a circular area around him
and then the fact that Eula buff takes time to detonate + also in a circular area around her, makes Eula + Bennett very frustrating to play depending on match up

lethal tundra
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y'all if i had cheuvy c6 should i be building overload team or use nahida with clorinde and try to build my fischl c6.

rugged sparrow
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they can perform at similar level depending on your investment

near prism
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It's like, very good for constructless teams

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But a lot of her best teams have constructs

lethal tundra
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do i need to level clorinde basic attack

viral mulch
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c1 for da premium wheelchair

rugged sparrow
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whose c1

near prism
viral mulch
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c6 must

near prism
lethal tundra
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is finale of the deep better than skyward blade for aggravate clorinde PeepoSmile

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
lethal tundra
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its already level 90

rugged sparrow
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but either Finale / Eshu is good for her

rugged sparrow
near prism
lethal tundra
rugged sparrow
near prism
near prism
# viral mulch c6 must

Dude I ran a damage split for c6 chiori earlier in a fully whaled out team and my brain exploded

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Lemme bring it out

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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I don't think it's even that hard to recognize you

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random nickname
pfp gives out similar vibes

viral mulch
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fairenuf

near prism
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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next time ill use genshin official art

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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to disguise

near prism
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18.5% from Kinus
18.5% A1
13.5% E initial
5% Q
24% from Tamatos
20.5% from NAs
In fully whaled out chiori furina xilo yelan

rugged sparrow
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wtf is kinus again

near prism
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I wanted to check each NA and each tamato/kinu individually but I gave up

rugged sparrow
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her c2 procs?

near prism
near prism
rugged sparrow
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her c4 also has kinus ok

rugged sparrow
near prism
viral mulch
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i grew to like geo wheelchair more cus it means i can use every support on other team except xilo

near prism
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Just wordy enough to make you feel stupid

rugged sparrow
near prism
rugged sparrow
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geo wheelchair
but it's Yun Jin
yep the good timeline

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thank u Xilonen

near prism
viral mulch
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i can run 2 bennett reliant dps comfortably with the help of geo

rugged sparrow
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also with the help of Cit

viral mulch
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buy now with just 699.99 (pulls)

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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nty saving up for my boxer warden

near prism
viral mulch
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i was thinking
actually no this isnt a public server talk

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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but i was thinking

i did have a thought process

near prism
viral mulch
viral mulch
near prism
opal surge
rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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Oh you noticed

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I got a spark when I did n1q

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Spark icd starts immediately when you get the spark

rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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You're guaranteed two sparks

near prism
rugged sparrow
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"guaranteed" my ass

warm scroll
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Basically

near prism
rugged sparrow
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well I need more sobW

warm scroll
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That's why you do n1c after e

near prism
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But uh, if anyone can beat those odds it's you

warm scroll
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Instead of doing n1e n1e

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The faster you consume the spark after the icd ends, the faster you can proc the next spark, that way you get 2 sparks within her field time

rugged sparrow
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gimme more

warm scroll
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All you need to know is it has 4s icd

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There's even a way to get 3 sparks

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But you need to start the rotation with klee n1

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And hope it procs

rugged sparrow
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Klee n1
fails to get spark
dies

near prism
warm scroll
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I'm missing the lore

rugged sparrow
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I've went on 4 n2c without a single spark

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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truly genshining my impact

warm scroll
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Here's another tip, instead of doing n1wn1w

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Do n2j, it's easier and has better mv/s

rugged sparrow
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oh I do that now
doesn't help with my godawful rng

near prism
rugged sparrow
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the Widsith incident

warm scroll
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Yeah I'm so glad I ditched widshit

rugged sparrow
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I just pretend Atlas is more useful

warm scroll
near prism
warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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be me, invent cope Klee teams

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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???

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is it me or the chart doesn't show up

warm scroll
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Yeah it doesn't for some reason

near prism
viral mulch
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klee bombed it

rugged sparrow
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team so cursed that gcsim crashed out

near prism
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But seems like on field klee, I'd wager it's like 60/20/15/5 split dps wise

near prism
rugged sparrow
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no

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void go sim Emilie/Mav/Kokomi/Klee

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I bet it breaks 50k

warm scroll
near prism
near prism
rugged sparrow
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overload Kuki my beloved

rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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We can wfpsim but

near prism
warm scroll
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No stat solver 😭

rugged sparrow
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all that setup and not even breaking 70k

warm scroll
near prism
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And probably your itto team too tbh

rugged sparrow
nova swift
rugged sparrow
near prism
warm scroll
near prism
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I'd wager it's also funnier than hydro plunge w xiangling

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Cuz diluc becomes his own pyro enabler

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Absolute cinema

warm scroll
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The damage output makes it funnier because that's not even trash for diluc standards

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Although his teams vary a lot

near prism
near prism
viral mulch
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sudden flood of what is this team

near prism
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Diluc is the only character that has like 50k dps teams and 90k-100k dps teams where I'd be like, yea, both of those are viable

viral mulch
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no uh i didnt mean like that kind of what
i meant what da fuk

rugged sparrow
near prism
viral mulch
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and i thought me using sayu to kill papilla shield was weird

rugged sparrow
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can we get a hydro shielder from Natlan that has staggered hydro app like Layla/c6 Candace

warm scroll
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Diluc having the best theoretical output of any unit in kurtc

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Wtf is hoyo cooking

opal surge
viral mulch
opal surge
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Any day now

warm scroll
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I've been using wfpsim

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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she has shield???

viral mulch
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i think its c1 or c2 idr but she had a cons that made her shield but only for her

rugged sparrow
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her hydro app is garbage though I dont even consider Sige to be a contender for my KleEmilie team AINTNOWAY

near prism
rugged sparrow
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it's literally just Kok rn

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and I don't have her

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big tragedy

viral mulch
near prism
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Because he's a stickler for stupid teams

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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just dont die

near prism
rugged sparrow
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burgeon
Furina pets putting me in constant 50% hp
Klee's loli model

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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the trick is to klee e then swap to mavu and q ca

rugged sparrow
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and you know why not Yelan void

viral mulch
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actually nvm not like mavu donut is good for dodging either

near prism
rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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Hmmm

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You could slot in layla lol

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R melt layla KokoShock

rugged sparrow
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but I wanna wipe off the pyro aura so Mav can re-apply Cinder

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idt Layla is even enough app to wipe out pyro aura

warm scroll
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Oh right

rugged sparrow
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ideally it's the hydro unit that holds Cinder
so Mav can run 4p GT

warm scroll
viral mulch
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you reapply by killing that enemy and triggering burning on a fresh new enemy that spawned

rugged sparrow
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ill kill u and burn ur body

viral mulch
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ty

rugged sparrow
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4p GT Mav + Earthshaker 🗣️

rugged sparrow
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atk goblet angle

warm scroll
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I guess electro is the answer

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Kuki maybe

viral mulch
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omg ororon

rugged sparrow
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yeah was thinking of Kuki actually but

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I dont have usable Cinder pieces for her

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let alone for my Citlali that's on cope pieces rn

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FS Kuki + Cinder agreege

near prism
viral mulch
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i have like 5 scroll set but not enough codex to even gear chasca

viral mulch
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me on wt

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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why does Natlan have no healer other than Xilo

viral mulch
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hypothetically if you reset enough to crit all the bullets then its gonna be better than codex trust

warm scroll
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Now I'm curious about your itto team

rugged sparrow
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whose

viral mulch
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u

warm scroll
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Yours

rugged sparrow
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it's just standard monogeo

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zl gorou chiori itto

viral mulch
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me and void already transcended to the better geo onfielder

rugged sparrow
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my Klee team is the only cursed one

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(I think)

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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cuz I have to shoehorn my triple crown + archon in same team agreege

viral mulch
near prism
rugged sparrow
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however the fuck it's gonna work

viral mulch
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supplement each others downtime frfr

rugged sparrow
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dual DPS pog

viral mulch
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just like hutao childe team

warm scroll
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I've cooked a lot of dual carry raiden teams

rugged sparrow
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still better than Clorinde + Tigh team I cooked

warm scroll
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This one is actually pretty good

rugged sparrow
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it's Navia wheelchair
lowkey better than c0 Chiori for double geo fight me

warm scroll
rugged sparrow
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chmkn

near prism
viral mulch
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fire
well with rocks

rugged sparrow
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what atk buffs

lethal tundra
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can clorinde c1 trigger double aggravte

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
viral mulch
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wut

near prism
rugged sparrow
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PeepoSmile do you understand how aggravate/quicken aura works

near prism
rugged sparrow
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ya but "double agg" is kinda worded weirdly

viral mulch
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i think it does have icd

lethal tundra
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noPeepoSmile my brain stucks on 1.0 elemental reaction

near prism
viral mulch
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lemme see wiki

rugged sparrow
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yeh it's only shared with her c6

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
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1s ICD

viral mulch
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so itll trigger 1 aggravate every c1 proc i think

near prism
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Hell yea I'm smort

warm scroll
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As the foremost expert of weird raiden teams, it's my duty

lethal tundra
rugged sparrow
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simply put yes

warm scroll
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I think it could be pretty decent with some xilo + ap scam

lethal tundra
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PeepoSmile is it extremely good or decently good

rugged sparrow
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one of the better c1 const

near prism
viral mulch
near prism
lethal tundra
near prism
viral mulch
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which

near prism
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Dude has like the best mechanical skill known to mankind

near prism
# near prism Peak

My first 1 mil burst with Diluc in abyss!! 🔥🔥🔥
Playing regular playstyle with Citlali Kazuha and Bennett. I managed to pull her to C6 and it is a huge upgrade for Diluc's dmg, having lot of fun playing this team! 🔥
Also the new claymore is a great upgrade. Might make a dmg comparison video between his best weapon options soon.

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rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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jedi

lethal tundra
rugged sparrow
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show ur Clorinde PeepoSmile

near prism
# viral mulch jedi

The time itself isn't that insane, even tho it's solid

The fucking mechanics on this man are insane though

viral mulch
near prism
rugged sparrow
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Xianyun who

lethal tundra
kind forge
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can anyone help me make a team for floor 12 😓

near prism
viral mulch
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thats a good showcase yea

rugged sparrow
viral mulch
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citlali buffed pyro so well

rugged sparrow
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and please dont use Skyward Blade PeepoSmile

rugged sparrow
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I think that's even better than my build

near prism
rugged sparrow
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... I guess not KEK

lethal tundra
near prism
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And it's mostly cuz her cons are insane, and melt as a reaction is nuts

rugged sparrow
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idk why I thought I have much lower cdmg/cr

lethal tundra
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i've only been farming her artifact for like 4 days. PepeHands

viral mulch
viral mulch
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altho im still prob gonna pull mavu cons on rerun

lethal tundra
rugged sparrow
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how the f

viral mulch
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not lv90?

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also talents

lethal tundra
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skyward blade PeepoSmile

viral mulch
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oh

rugged sparrow
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6k is like her dmg without aggravate

rugged sparrow
near prism
lethal tundra
near prism
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Although Icl I'd like c4 citllai so I can build her as a nuke and less energy needs

viral mulch
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her cons are so good

rugged sparrow
solar wasp
rugged sparrow
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main selling point for 4p TF is the CDR to sync with Fischl

opal surge
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6k with aggravate is almost impossibly low

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I have not seen the build but

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Is it a lvl 70 clorinde

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
viral mulch
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ok idk how then

rugged sparrow
opal surge
rugged sparrow
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im literally booting up my genshin just to check my Clorinde's dmg without agg

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even though I should be out rn KEKHands

opal surge
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I'm closer to 20k on non agg but with buffs

lethal tundra
opal surge
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(but I do have cons)

viral mulch
#

dmg so shocking it gets prioritized over work

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
#

maybe skyward blade wasn't so skywarding

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
opal surge
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I mean realistically if you do 6k aggravates and then you are not clearing

rugged sparrow
#

not even floor11 I don't think

opal surge
#

Or? KLEEKICANT

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
viral mulch
#

600

rugged sparrow
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who do I test it on

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does fat fuck have innate dendro aura

viral mulch
#

no

opal surge
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No

rugged sparrow
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ok good

opal surge
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He almost has innate Pyro Aura after 10s though

rugged sparrow
#

bro burnt himself

opal surge
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Because he won't move out of his own spit KLEEKICANT

rugged sparrow
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ok maybe I'm overestimating non-agg dmg omegalul

lethal tundra
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PeepoSmile is fischl that huge of a damage buff for clorinde

lethal tundra
rugged sparrow
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Fischl is there because Clorinde can abuse her A4 well

lethal tundra
#

that have no cooldown ?

rugged sparrow
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0.5s

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and it always procs aggravate (assuming there's quicken aura)

lethal tundra
#

does it scaled of skill damage or just fischl attack

viral mulch
#

mm number vomit

rugged sparrow
lethal tundra
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and is c1 clorinde or c0r1 clorinde a better investment

rugged sparrow
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should be c1r0

viral mulch
#

idk how much better absolution is over finale

rugged sparrow
warm scroll
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This is foul

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I should try chev instead

viral mulch
#

lol wtf

lethal tundra
kind forge
#

yo can someone help me make a team for floor 12

viral mulch
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well who do u have

warm scroll
#

Sure, send your roster

rugged sparrow
#

idk whose numbers is which

viral mulch
warm scroll
#

Except maybe if I do

kind forge
warm scroll
#

Raiden e bot in agg

viral mulch
#

my primal instincts sent me a uh oh sign the moment i saw

warm scroll
#

Or hyperbloomge

kind forge
#

floor 11 was a struggle to get thru

opal surge
lethal tundra
rugged sparrow
#

c1 should be better in agg is it not

warm scroll
#

That being said clorox's cons scale very well, I heard c6 r0 is the best investment path

opal surge
#

I can show in a sec

#

Booting pc CBA going sheets on phone

warm scroll
#

What's the policy regarding sharing sheets and stuff here

rugged sparrow
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idt it's prohibited unless pre-TC/leak-sourced

warm scroll
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No proof standards? Kleevesdrop

rugged sparrow
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or u mean assumptions or what

opal surge
#

this is agg

warm scroll
opal surge
#

sheets i post are generally double checked by multiple tcs

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they dont go through kqm verif though but i also double check them against kqm verified sheets

rugged sparrow
#

about the same huh

lethal tundra
warm scroll
#

Enshu is really, really good though

rugged sparrow
#

Calamity of Blighted Spring PeepoSmile

opal surge
warm scroll
#

Like if you have that weapon and the right team for it, I think it's easier to justify c1 atp

viral mulch
#

calamity

opal surge
viral mulch
#

queller

rugged sparrow
#

surely they have Calamity right...

opal surge
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why did I not calc HoD

rugged sparrow
#

I was about to ask

opal surge
lethal tundra
#

does Arlecchino sig usable on lot of character compares to Hutao sig PeepoSmile

opal surge
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its useable on arlecchino

viral mulch
#

in terms of versatility scythe doesnt have one

lethal tundra
rugged sparrow
#

not sure if I like sigs like Arle's or Mav's more omegalul

viral mulch
#

gotta have good balance of both on weapon types

rugged sparrow
#

meanwhile catalyst

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nonstop tailored sigs

viral mulch
#

cooked

rugged sparrow
#

Klee still finding a usable 5-star catalyst other than LP and Kagura

viral mulch
#

lamp

opal surge
#

Surely mizuki mizuki will have a good Klee weapon clue

lethal tundra
#

does arlecchino needs alot of team building and investment to work

viral mulch
#

a swirl dpses sig weapon will be good for klee frfr CLUE

lethal tundra
warm scroll
# kind forge

Umm sorry you can try going
mav / bennett / kaeya / kachina
neuv / pyro mc / zhongli / childe or anemo

opal surge
#

what is hutao level of investment

rugged sparrow
warm scroll
opal surge
#

white tassel arle when you step out of bennet circle

kind forge
rugged sparrow
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Shenhe quite literally does nothing

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maybe she'll look pretty but that's it

kind forge
#

cryo application??

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isnt that what kaeyas there for

rugged sparrow
#

she has dogshit cryo app since her ult has standard ICD

kind forge
#

wtf is icd

rugged sparrow
#

ok so in Genshin, you don't apply element everytime you attack

viral mulch
#

bring in the wiki article for elemental gauge theroy

opal surge
#

Not all hits that are of an elemental damage will apply their element

rugged sparrow
#

and that's what we call ICD (internal cooldown)

#

to put it into perspective
Shenhe ult hits every 2s
but only every other hit applies cryo
so she effectively applies cryo every 4s

warm scroll
kind forge
#

oh

warm scroll
#

2/s is like rosaria (who's also better here)

kind forge
#

bruh i got her for nothing

rugged sparrow
#

she's good for cryo DPSes

viral mulch
#

you kinda did

rugged sparrow
#

but outside cryo DPS team Shenhe just has no use

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even in cryo DPS team she's kinda powercrept already so deadge

kind forge
#

bruh damn

viral mulch
#

i pretty much never recommend pulling shenhe cus her buff isnt even that big and you wont lose much using a cryo team without her

warm scroll
#

She has phys shred too

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Which is not very relevant lol

kind forge
#

she was good in a melt team w mavuika tho, i did like 600k

rugged sparrow
#

you can do that with literally any other cryo too though KEKHands

kind forge
kind forge
viral mulch
#

the only times i agree on pulling shenhe is that either going for c6 shenhe or if she just happened to be ones favorite character and they just want her in their acc cus of it

forest venture
#

i ate dried oatmeal

kind forge
#

yeah shes pretty

viral mulch
#

i ate 3 hamburgers

forest venture
#

shenhe can run with chasca sillygoofy

viral mulch
#

citlali time

warm scroll
viral mulch
#

i used both each and citlali was so much stronger

opal surge
#

Shenhe citlali bennet is an option if you want to do more cryo damage and or if furina/mav are busy

#

Ive been meaning to sheet it but Ive been busy and I dont know anyone else who is sheeting chasca ICANT

viral mulch
#

oh yea

warm scroll
#

You should talk to myst

viral mulch
#

i do use both if i wanna run cryo prioritized shenhe which comes up once every while

#

do gotta admit shenhe good there

opal surge
warm scroll
#

He's the childe guy in kqm

opal surge
#

his chasca guide is currently also stunlocked because gcsim is stunlocked

warm scroll
opal surge
#

at implementing chasca

warm scroll
#

Or wait, maybe he's just hard stuck because gcsim doesn't have her

opal surge
#

he has done optimizer calcs for her yeah but i think its just on wait

#

yeah he recorded frames a while ago it should be implemented soon

#

He actually asked me to sheet shenhe citlali ICANT

warm scroll
#

What's wrong with wfpsim's implementation

opal surge
#

its buggy as hell iirc

#

yeah he asked me in november but I have work and exams KLEEKICANT

#

maybe hes done it himself since

#

if I had to guess its prolly 80kish though

#

feelscrafting ™️

warm scroll
#

It's too bad there's not enough enthusiasm

#

Sim seems to be hanging on by a thread

opal surge
#

Not too many people care about chascuh

rugged sparrow
#

I lowkey wanted to pull her

#

but what is another Bennett-dependent DPS icant

warm scroll
#

Yoimidya 2.0

viral mulch
#

im rly glad getting chasca

rugged sparrow
#

pew pew

opal surge
#

me too but im biased clue

viral mulch
#

yoimiya nuh uh more like single target neuv

opal surge
#

i got both mavuika and citlali with the intention as chasca supports

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if I didnt have chasca I mightve skipped KLEEKICANT

warm scroll
#

Say what you will about natlan on fielders but all are pretty interesting and fun

opal surge
#

(and pretty janky)

warm scroll
#

The jank is a good thing imo at least

#

It beats using brain dead on fielders like neuv

viral mulch
#

chasca is rly comfy
the rest it depends i guess

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i dont rly see myself using mualani often for example

warm scroll
#

Mav is comfy

viral mulch
#

cus the enemy dies before it becomes not comfy CLUE

warm scroll
#

Because the q alone accounts for like 60k dps in kqms kek

warm scroll
viral mulch
#

i dont rly like how she feels during bike but then my brain is like overdosed on comfy factor so its a bit of a warped standard

#

the burst mechanic is nice
raiden could never

warm scroll
#

Only klee players could understand

viral mulch
#

im a different kind of klee player doro2

opal surge
viral mulch
#

called e then swap

opal surge
#

I personally dont gain any enjoyment knowing that there is a 1/10 that my mualani burst will not hit the enemy

wicked locust
#

Ttds klee player

viral mulch
#

i do like braindead comfy more than jank

rugged sparrow
opal surge
viral mulch
#

we reading the entire library with this one

supple perch
#

any rec for bp wep pick up?

warm scroll
supple perch
rugged sparrow
#

CMS is just lying there and Arle on DM

hazy lotus
#

lmao i’m guessing they got it recently and is waiting to 90 it first

rugged sparrow
# supple perch

Arle on CMS
Raiden on DM
Xiangling on Catch
level up Skyward for Bennett
consider Stringless on Fischl if aggravate
(Wtf is Barb doing on Solar Pearl)
you can consider Serpent Spine for Diluc/Noelle if you remotely play them

#

refine your Sac Sword to at least r3 for Xingqiu or just run Favo

hazy lotus
rugged sparrow
#

not that I see a single Fav Sword though, wtf GanyUh

rugged sparrow
#

XL has priority

#

XL on Catch over other 4-star options is a bigger increase than Raiden

supple perch
rugged sparrow
#

ig r5 DBane can be better on XL in Rational but ERge

supple perch
#

serpent spine is claymore, no?

rugged sparrow
#

it is claymore yes

supple perch
#

I don't usually play diluc and noelle

rugged sparrow
#

doesn't matter which weapon u pick ig, u can get DM / Ballad refinements if you want to improve Raiden/XL

supple perch
#

so i just get dm, and refine it?

rugged sparrow
#

that's what I'd do yes

#

would be easier if you also list the chars you frequently use

supple perch
#

here, noelle only for giving me shield

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
# supple perch

yeah my rec sounds about right then, just getting DM/Fjords refines
Diona can swap to Sac too if you want to if you're running her with Ayaka/Eula

rugged sparrow
#

a sad sight to see

viral mulch
rugged sparrow
viral mulch
#

she had less cr than xiangling

supple perch
#

who's using my ballad?

#

not xl?

rugged sparrow
#

if you play XL exclusively in reaction team you run Fjords

#

DM refines is more for Raiden but if you're getting her sig eventually then peeposhrug

#

whoever uses the DM/Fjords, the other gets Catch
or ditch Catch once u get high refines on both
your current polearm pool is already good enough anyway, so you don't necessarily need DM/Fjords refines
but you're not using other chars that would otherwise benefit from BP weap (mainly claymore cuz Serpent Spine)

#

if you wanna take a "safer" approach just get Serpent Spine r1, who knows you might need it in the future KEK

#

the more investment your acc has, the more obsolete BP weapons become other than Serpent Spine

young glen
#

whats the best choice here

rugged sparrow
young glen
#

WHAT

rugged sparrow
#

what

young glen
#

i thought it was using blue ones

near swallow
#

Nahh genshin aint that nice

rugged sparrow
#

I mean both are called fates but yes you use the pink ones (intertwined)

young glen
#

yo lwk i already wished like 20 times on this

rugged sparrow
#

acquaint is only for standard

young glen
near swallow
#

Damn baizhu would be so good

rugged sparrow
young glen
#

i wouldnt know what team to use him on

near swallow
#

For bloom i guess

rugged sparrow
#

you have Nilou, Baizhu is the best 2nd dendro slot

young glen
rugged sparrow
#

then why are you pulling on the banner KEKHands

near swallow
young glen
#

i just pull whenever i can

rugged sparrow
opal surge
#

wait surely you must have noticed that you dont have 20 standard wishes

#

even if you thought youre using standard wishes

#

or are you hoarding standard wishes

young glen
#

these are my main teams kinda

young glen
near swallow
young glen
#

standard banner mid asf annyways

rugged sparrow
opal surge
near swallow
supple perch
young glen
#

same banner since release is insane

opal surge
#

its not the same banner since release but thats besides the point

#

what is the point of holding standard wishes

near swallow
rugged sparrow
young glen
supple perch
#

i can't get r5 festering?

young glen
#

like how they did with that one wolf heavy girl

rugged sparrow
opal surge
#

new units in it will be mid anyway

supple perch
#

wait fr? i thought we can always get it?

opal surge
#

no its an event weapon

rugged sparrow
#

nop, it's an event exclusive weap

opal surge
#

just fish for pipe

young glen
#

would it be smart to keep zhongli in a mualani team

supple perch
#

isn't it on the wishing red tree?

rugged sparrow
#

nop

supple perch
#

huh

#

rip

rugged sparrow
near swallow
supple perch
#

I'll check later. i think i have it but haven't finished

near swallow
#

My one the same
Mualani Mavuika Kazuha Zhongli

young glen
#

did i miss mavuika already

rugged sparrow
#

I'm more concerned about the Raiden + Yoi team as your "main" team
and Bennett randomly on Keqing team

opal surge
#

yes

young glen
#

i wanted to use yoi on my raiden team cuz shes c2

rugged sparrow
young glen
rugged sparrow
#

just... make a separate team then for Yoi and Raiden

near swallow
#

Sheesh f2p fr?

young glen
rugged sparrow
#

Yoi/Xingqiu/Bennett/shielder

opal surge
#

doesnt pull on standard banner because standard characters are mid

-> has yoi c2

young glen
#

my xq is lievel 50

young glen
#

i was a demon back then

rugged sparrow
near swallow
young glen
#

i wanna focus on zhongli cuz hes more universally important

rugged sparrow
#

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

young glen
near swallow
opal surge
#

how can you even focus on zl

rugged sparrow
#

idk what you mean "focus on ZL" when he's like

young glen
#

hes level 50

rugged sparrow
#

random 4p artifact
hp main stats
level up E
done

young glen
#

i dont know how to kill geo cube lwk

opal surge
#

so 80 him and 80 xq after

#

who cares

rugged sparrow
#

break pillars

opal surge
young glen
rugged sparrow
#

heavy attacks (claymore etc), Zhongli hold E also drains a lot of geo gauge from the pillars

young glen
#

it takes like 5 minutes per cube with a claymore

near swallow
#

With big sword

rugged sparrow
#

if you're taking 5 minutes to kill geo cube then it's pilot issue ig

near swallow
young glen
#

im eu

#

should i wish for baizhu

#

could complete a full bloom team then

near swallow
#

Wish anyone you like 👍

rugged sparrow
#

I mean you're the one who said "I just pull whenever I can" AINTNOWAY
but yes Baizhu would be good for your bloom team / alternative dendro slot for some teams

near swallow
#

Why is furina good

supple perch
rugged sparrow
# near swallow Why is furina good
  1. buffs party-wide dmg
  2. enables certain DPSes to use Marechaussee Hunter set
  3. hydro is generally a flexible element when it comes to teambuilding
opal surge
#

also does good personal damage

supple perch
#

who can use serpent tho?

opal surge
#

(if not on tom)

rugged sparrow
young glen
supple perch
#

is it that good?

near swallow
rugged sparrow
supple perch
#

so kinda ppl like diluc?

rugged sparrow
near swallow
#

YOU JUST SKILL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND ALL BREAK

young glen
#

i didnt know that

rugged sparrow
#

Serpent Spine is stupid broken for a 4-star

opal surge
#

(if you stack it)

rugged sparrow
#

Sensi we've talked about this

opal surge
supple perch
#

so need r5 of it?

rugged sparrow
#

no no, he meant stacking the passive

#

it only gains stack if your character is on-field
this guy uses it on an off-fielder that never sees the light of day

near swallow
supple perch
#

who?

rugged sparrow
supple perch
#

me?

rugged sparrow
supple perch
young glen
rugged sparrow
opal surge
#

bro where did my rolls go

supple perch
#

I'll read the wep later

rugged sparrow
supple perch
#

and shall consider it.

rugged sparrow
#

x 2

supple perch
#

tho i don't have much ppl to use it for, i think only diluc?

#

noelle not good as dps, no?

near swallow
rugged sparrow
#

it's future-proof if anything peeposhrug
and Noelle is good under the right circumstances

rugged sparrow
#

it's just a safe pick
if you keep buying BP every patch then it matters even less since you'll probably r5 everything at some point

young glen
supple perch
#

well it takes around 8 months to r5 a wep, no?

opal surge
#

7 but yeah

rugged sparrow
#

ppl who have been playing since day 1 + buys BP every patch probs got most r5 BP weap already

#

(and probably not use them since they have better options)

supple perch
opal surge
#

my bps are slowly ramping too

rugged sparrow
#

at least Genshin BP weapon is in a better spot than ZZZ BP wengine

opal surge
#

r5 fjords
r3 ss
r3 jade
r1 dm
r1 hunt
r1 scion

young glen
#

how much should mualani be doing per crit

rugged sparrow
#

depends on buff / enemies / etc

young glen
#

uhhh

#

abyss ig

rugged sparrow
#

that doesn't tell a whole lot so I'll just hit u with "at least 1 dmg" PeepoSmile

young glen
#

cheers

rugged sparrow
#

instead of aiming for dmg thresholds, it's better to just post your Mualani stats here

supple perch
#

ok so if i pull for furina next patch

then it's gonna be arle, benett, furina, citlali on my team?

rugged sparrow
young glen
#

extra 40% cr from set

rugged sparrow
# young glen

enka card would be nicer but basically 0 EM is rough

opal surge
#

16 em batchest

supple perch
rugged sparrow
young glen
supple perch
#

kek so i should just hold?

rugged sparrow
#

and you running Citlali on top can cause issues with Arle not vaping/melting against bosses

rugged sparrow
#

otherwise Furina is a very good pull value

supple perch
#

i assume not good as well on raiden/clorinde team?

rugged sparrow
#

good depending on the team

opal surge
# young glen

you really need an em sands ideally with good crit rate

supple perch
#

oh how about navia?

rugged sparrow
#

good

supple perch
#

for who?

opal surge
#

for navia

rugged sparrow
#

... wdym for who