📌gimshim-help

[honest heart]

layla and kuki ok got it

[carmine crypt]

you got the catch for her?

[honest heart]

yes but a lot of other options

[carmine crypt]

i mean fair

[sick quarry]

Question from my friend. So pretend toma is Arlecchino. Is Citali a better replacement instead of Benny here? If so, is having Citali will cause Yelan and Xingqiu to freeze here if use?

If Citali isn't better or benny, is Zhongli a better replacement?

[rugged sparrow]

you replace either Yelan or Xq for Citlali

[sick quarry]

So benny can stay in?

[rugged sparrow]

you just don't take Benny away from Arle

[crude dirge]

WHY PRETEND THOMA IS ARLECCHINO
BUILD THOMA INSTEAD OF ARLE BRO

[sick quarry]

What would make a difference if someone runs hutao, benny, yelan, and citali?

[rugged sparrow]

you have Hu Tao instead of Arle, that's the difference

[sick quarry]

The person does yes.

What would benefit pulling citali tho btw?

In that case btw.

[carmine crypt]

Arle melt or mavu

[lyric cargo]

afaik, Arle without Bennett is just not great

I haven't seen numbers to compare it

[carmine crypt]

Have fun with the legatus golem (I didn’t)

[lyric cargo]

overload or geo teams, I guess?
or is there a special twist, beyond having more hp than when it was in abyss

(keep in mind I haven't played the event at all yet)

[carmine crypt]

Neither

I have no geo dps so I had to clutch with mavu zl

[lyric cargo]

ah

[carmine crypt]

Bro is at least 5M+ hp

[lyric cargo]

Zl is good against it, from what I know from abyss

[carmine crypt]

He still slaps tho

Even with zl

[lyric cargo]

3 Mavuika rotations

[rugged sparrow]

its shield is like 2x-3x tankier than in abyss

[carmine crypt]

2

[rugged sparrow]

ZL hE + Q is like barely 60% of its shield HP

[lyric cargo]

you deal 2.5m with one?
is that c2 r1?

[rugged sparrow]

and it regenerates

[carmine crypt]

1.2m on burst hit then 200k each for ca

[lyric cargo]

I legit forgot there's more to a Mavuika rotation after the initial hit, for a second

[carmine crypt]

Also the tulpa is cancer af too

[lyric cargo]

the fight usually ends with it

[carmine crypt]

Bro can one shot my mavu with zl shield

[lyric cargo]

Bennettless team angle

to prevent it from forward-vaping

[carmine crypt]

For me one burst cycle is about half hp

With food and pot mind you

I wouldn’t be able to play without it

[lyric cargo]

oh, it's yet another event with food

[unkempt river]

I want Lan Yan and Chev cons. Don't mind either Chlorinde nor Arlecchino. But which one of them would be most useful for me?

[cedar flint]

well chlorinde is kinda bad before c1

[strange scarab]

oh wait

gg

[unkempt river]

She is?

[rugged sparrow]

(she isn't)

[opal surge]

? xd

[pallid leaf]

With neuve (sac jade), sucrose, citlali and fischl he does 44873 dmg per tick. Is that enough damage or should i continue farming for better artifacts?

[cedar flint]

I heard she is very underwhelming before c1

[surreal birch]

hey so uh 1-21-24 is the new banners right?

[lyric cargo]

not sure how to read those three numbers

the first half banners came out on January 1
each banner lasts 21 days, so the second half should start on the 22nd

[opal surge]

she is not

well, you can argue that she is, but in that case more than 90% of the cast are

[rugged sparrow]

the fate of being an on-field electro DPS

got sidelined as Fischl slave

[wicked locust]

How much em do u need on gaming to melt again?

[lyric cargo]

that's not really how it works

ER is the only stat with a clear cut-off point (being able to burst every rotation)

each additional substat of ATK% / crit rate / crit dmg / EM gives some % increase to your damage
but unless your stats are way out of balance, the amount is usually similar enough that you just use whichever artifacts have the highest number of useful substats

beyond that, if you have several good artifacts to choose from, you want to balance your crit ratio

(though c6 Ga Ming with 4pc Marechaussee might already be at 100% crit rate)

[wicked locust]

Ohh

[quaint fern]

Yeah that's a bit low

[wicked locust]

@opal surge is this er enough?

[opal surge]

Probably yeah

[wicked locust]

Okay but he's not applying cryo for some reason now...

[lyric cargo]

I'll take a guess at what might be happening:

the melt and vaporize reaction both have a dominant element
in melt, pyro is dominant
in vape, hydro is dominant

it may take multiple applications of cryo to clear a pyro aura after it has been established

you might have to slow down your pyro application to prevent pyro from taking over

like cancelling your charge attack with a dash, on Arlecchino

I heard that's what you do with Citlali, not sure about Kaeya

[strange ridge]

Guys im having trouble w spiral abyss floor 11😭

[lyric cargo]

it's pretty restrictive in terms of what elements can damage the enemies, this time

what teams were you using?

[strange ridge]

I was using ale vape

( ale, kazuha, xingqui and bennny for team 2)

But for team one it was kinda scuffed

Ayato, xiangling, raiden, nahida

[lyric cargo]

Maybe a video like this can help you. I didn't look at the part about floor 11 though.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkwvB0sjgM

[lyric cargo]

looked at the enemies for floor 11 again

my guess would be maybe electro on-fielder + Fischl first half

since your good pyro are second half

[rancid cypress]

tenebrous

[rugged sparrow]

papilla

[primal latch]

Is this mavuika good enough? I have em sands but its not that good only 30cv not sure if it will be better

[violet cipher]

Arlechini/Citlali/Bennet/Rosaria
What set/weapon does Rosaria use?

[quaint fern]

EoSF probably

Catch works, fav if you really need the energy, pretty much all the 5*s work

[violet cipher]

https://youtu.be/y4p9wHghs5E?si=rqgvXQtQmiOwFk2o I know it's outdated but I found this and it sounds like GD or Instructors would be better. Is this team forward or reverse melt?

[opal surge]

its definitely instructors

[violet cipher]

I don't have the best artifacts for Instructors; but I do have a decent EoSF set (better circlet mostly), which should I use?

[opal surge]

Emblem is quite bad, you are forward melting on arle, rosa will not be doing damage either way

The problem with instructor is it has kind of low uptime, and it's somewhat hard to actually proc in this team

sec I will record something real quick to explain the problem I cant really put it into words well

[violet cipher]

I heard from Jello Impact that this was Arlechino’s best melt team in terms of comfort while still giving a lot of damage. I also have Kazuha, Yelan, Furina and Xiangling if any of those would be better to use.

[opal surge]

Its actually maybe more complicated if I record instead of just talking about it - Proccing ins on rosaria while optimal for damage is difficult because ins requires rosa to trigger an reaction, and scroll for citlali also requires citlali to do the same -

When you do arle E > Bennet EQ you have pyro on the enemy, if you now rosa EQ you wipe pyro off the enemy and citlali has no leftover pyro to proc scroll
When you do arle E > rosa > bennet you have basically no instructor uptime on arle

The setup that works is arle e > bennet eq > rosa q (skip e) > now theres leftover pyro for citlali to proc scroll if done quickly

The problem with that is that rosa skipping e has absurd ER requirements, especially for ins

You could do noblesse rosa and ins bennet, if you have a ins set for bennet but yeah its all a bit awkward

Ideally you would play citlali solo cryo with another buffer, but it can be awkward to play

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message of the buffers mentioned here, which should I use in this ‘alrle/bennet/citlali/buffer’ team? Would it be better to play than arle/ben/Yelan/Kazuha?

[opal surge]

its kazuha, or sucrose if you have her

ideally would be xilonen but Im gonna guess you either dont have her or shes busy

[violet cipher]

I have sucrose but her set isn’t as good as Kazuha.
It’s the former for Xilonen

[opal surge]

you can play around a bit, see what you like more. A buffer is more damage, but it involves sometimes having to be careful to not lose the cryo aura, double cryo removes that worry. If you do prefer playing double cryo, I'd probably just throw an ins set on rosa and if she procs it great, if not then dont worry too much about it

[violet cipher]

I haven’t tried double cryo but I’ll keep that in mind.

[rough finch]

Who should I pull for my Tighnari team? currently running him with Nahida Shinobu Kirara

[lyric cargo]

chars whose uptime and cooldowns line up with his

Fischl, Yae Miko, Zhongli..

I'm not sure it's a great reason to pull those 5★s though, unless you're really committed to Tighnari

[violet cipher]

would doing this be worth it? I need more crit rate if I want to run Staff of Homa and I can offset it by getting a new goblet or timepiece at least. The timepiece is the least best so I'm focusing on that and I have an offset timepiece that would be perfect but I'd need a better goblet.

Also (switch feathers) do I need to build this bennet more? I'm going to be using him in Arlechino and Chasca teams

[quaint fern]

Your ER is a bit low

So the right one is just better, then off piece the goblet or smth

[violet cipher]

I don't have a good on-piece sands (this is my best one) so I'll strongbox for that or goblet

I also have this but idk if it's worth it.

[quaint fern]

Oh wait MB why did I think that was off piece feather 🤣

Okay anyways, the new feather is still better

If you want to, you can craft an ER sands but imo that's a waste of elixirs

Just depends on the team, idk what his reqs are for yours

Arle makes 5 particles herself so you're probably fine? Less so in chasca teams

[nimble bison]

whats like the best food for reviving that gives the most HP or something

[rugged sparrow]

Sucrose's specialty iirc

not like it matters since you just spam HP foods anyway

just make eggs / steaks

[nimble bison]

ye, im gonna use both depending on situation

[violet cipher]

Yeah I’ve normally been running Chasca and Arle teams. In both teams though I have someone running Fav.
(Ig I could do Ayaka melt, Raiden and Childe but there’s not really a point in doing that).

[quaint fern]

If you're not seeing issues with burst uptime then it should be fine

Personally I just like to go max healing for comfort bc I don't really play teams where he can melt or vape for big dmg

[haughty lotus]

On whimsy right?

[violet cipher]

I don’t think I need too much healing since I just run those two teams where their best teams use a shielder so I’d prefer high burst uptime but I see your point. I might strongbox for him unless my other units need better artifacts.
What would C6 Candace use to support Arlechino?

[violet cipher]

Yeah, you can see in the Enka screenshot that Arlechino is using Whimsy

[haughty lotus]

It’s worth it

[hollow moss]

Hi I was wondering if anyone knows how to see the results after the Nathan battle? I tried to check the record keeping thing but it didn’t show anything

At one point it went from 1907 to 4000 smth then back to 1907, I was trying to keep it super low 😅

[violet cipher]

Oh, I see what you mean, I meant to make the artifact whimsy, not codex

should I trash this?

[quaint fern]

If that's your best on set CR circlet, no

[violet cipher]

I have these two

Nvm I should probably trash this instead, right?

[wicked locust]

Xilonen off piece

[tight smelt]

ehhh it could be better it only got one def stat

[violet cipher]

Should I trash this?

[tight smelt]

yes

hutao the only pyro character who needs hp don't even use that piece

[wicked locust]

Hm maybe
But ig it's fine..u don't need that much def without signature anyway

[violet cipher]

My HuTao uses this so I don't think I need it x2

[rugged sparrow]

even with sig Xilo doesn't need that many DEF

[tight smelt]

do I pull mavuika for dps or pull citlali to buff my hutao

[rugged sparrow]

up to u

[wicked locust]

My ass is on 3300 defense without signature for some reason

[tight smelt]

I'm asking because I have no idea what to do

give me your opinion

[rugged sparrow]

my opinion is play Klee instead

[tight smelt]

lolicon

[wicked locust]

Mine is to get xianyun and play diluc

[tight smelt]

I'm a Ganyu main

[rugged sparrow]

who asked

[tight smelt]

ur mom

[rugged sparrow]

real

[tight smelt]

so mavuika or citlali

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[tight smelt]

I can't get both

[rugged sparrow]

not with that attitude

[violet cipher]

Am I right about this? That I should trash the EosF goblet because this DM is better?

[tight smelt]

no the problem is 100% with money

[wicked locust]

Won't recommend trashing a goblet but ig if u don't need it go ahead

[wicked locust]

Ya this is exactly what was happening

[violet cipher]

I have other things I can probably trash, could I trash this?

[wicked locust]

I don't wanna play met mavuika now
C2D with xingqiu is good enough for me

[violet cipher]

or maybe this?

[nimble bison]

idk how good ur other artifacts are, but thats has 8 out of 8 rolls that is useful

[nimble bison]

this has 6 good rolls, and it seems like u have like 15 others, soo

.
guys, how much of the aranara quest do i have to do until i can get sapwood blade recipe?

[violet cipher]

Can I trash this then?

[nimble bison]

it has good rolls but HP as main stat, i dont think somebody will need both HP% and 22% atk
so most of the time either HP% main stat or the atk rolls will be useless
which means it only has 4 good rolls

[violet cipher]

ok ty

[nimble bison]

How early can i get sapwood blade blueprint in the aranara quest?

[violet cipher]

Is the build with the on-set goblet an upgrade or downgrade to the other build?

[haughty lotus]

Looks better

And switch to the first circlet #📌gimshim-help message

[violet cipher]

Ty

[lyric cargo]

the difference is, a pyro unit melting gives a base multiplier of 2 (that then gets multiplied again based on your EM)

a pyro unit vaping gives a base multiplier of 1.5 (that then gets multiplied again based on your EM)

as well as Citlali giving 20% pyro res shred and 48 atk% from ttds

but maybe it's fine for now, Citlali will rerun

[wicked locust]

Ya

[quaint fern]

famous last words

[lyric cargo]

it'd be hilarious if the rerun curse was actually based on units being cryo, rather than people pulling for them

[quaint fern]

I love it when granny citlali betrayed the cryo nation

hoyo really couldn't give her cryo shred smh

was that too much to ask for when xilonen exists?

[lyric cargo]

just like Ororon betrayed it by being electro in the cryo clan

maybe he was adopted into it? I don't know the lore, could be clans just don't determine visions

[quaint fern]

man hoyo really got a vendetta against us just bc we were meta in 2.x huh

[wicked locust]

Btw is this just my skills issue or mavuika's bike tends to climb over bosses when I dash?

[lyric cargo]

to me it indicates they wanna sell a separate unit for cryo units melting at a later point

[lyric cargo]

what I don't understand to this day is then putting high anemo res enemies in abyss

[quaint fern]

our only amplifying reaction is found dead in a ditch and freeze still doesn't maintain cryo aura against bosses in 2025

[lyric cargo]

Suanni has 70% hydro res to nerf Neuvilette, and 70% anemo res because they randomly hate Xiao?

[quaint fern]

which just makes bliz a worse codex/MH

surely skirk will be a new element and she'll make cryo great again

[lyric cargo]

that'd be nice

[wicked locust]

Skirk is gonna be quantum

[quaint fern]

i'm gonna take skirk to fight childe

[nova swift]

Tribes have nothing to do with the visions they have

Chasca is anemo despite being in the pyro clan

[strange scarab]

the pyro archon from the dendro clan

[lyric cargo]

I thought it was the anemo clan tbh, though I've heard that before it doesn't have any pyro chars?

[nova swift]

Nope, no pyro chars at all so far

[lyric cargo]

it'd be such good synergy for the 6 clans to be pyro + one of the other 6 elements

[nimble bison]

how much fragile resin should i use on codex domain, im missing the big 3 pieces and feather can be better
I currently have like 33
for my mavuika and citlali

[lyric cargo]

it's lore that it's pyro?

[strange scarab]

Up to you

[nova swift]

Yes, the tribes' elements are based on their Saurians, and Ququsaurs do pyro

[strange scarab]

I guess it makes sense since anemo + pyro is really just more pyro

[lyric cargo]

just keep enough so you can farm weekly bosses on Sunday after you realize you forgot

or build 1-2 chars you need for entering theater, without having to wait days for resin

those are pretty much the only reasons to keep some instant resin in reserve

there's also building a new char on day 1, but that's more of a convenience (you don't lose out by taking a week to do it)

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus i got jade now time for therta and algae

0 pulls 0 pity too ez

[nimble bison]

well i actually wanted to build them on day 1 but then idk what happened, i guess the primogem farming devoured me

[haughty lotus]

So true

[keen willow]

Don't spend fragile resin you must save them

[rancid cypress]

papilla

[rugged sparrow]

tenebrous

[gaunt kettle]

how viable is c6 heizou as a main dps

[nova swift]

very

[crude dirge]

i use him sometimes with c0

[lyric cargo]

tried it for the first time.. I have a feeling I'm not supposed to select all 4 topics
1m 58s with c1 r1 Mavuika (no food) against the first enemy

[carmine crypt]

The crab’s worse

[lyric cargo]

actually all topics is a requirement. I'll have to use food I guess

[opal surge]

To plat you need all topics

[lyric cargo]

wait, nvm, I don't need to plat for all rewards

I'll just gold everything for now then
maybe I'll come back for plat later

[carmine crypt]

How tf can someone plat the crab without neuv is beyond me

[opal surge]

2 for all rewards 4 for plat

[rugged sparrow]

what Neuv

[opal surge]

I don't know why neuv would be exceptional on the crab

[rugged sparrow]

dogass hydro app

[uncut umbra]

hey guys, i have a question. Is wriostheley, neuvillette, diluc, and bennett an okay team?

[rugged sparrow]

no, you have 3 on-fielders

[lyric cargo]

Neuv and Wrio both want the majority of the field time
Diluc is.. not great without Xianyun

[carmine crypt]

Maybe the team I picked was just not good enough to break the crystals coz I kept dying to it

[uncut umbra]

hmm alright thankss

[opal surge]

Diluc is technically the third best Pyro DPS now

Featuring Chinese frame perfect tiktok combo and citlali

[rugged sparrow]

[uncut umbra]

what about wrio, neuv, xiangling and bennett?

[rugged sparrow]

you still have 2 on-fielders

and then Neuv doing fuckall with Bennett's buff (or lack of buffs to begin with)

just separate Wrio and Neuv into two diff teams

[uncut umbra]

okay thank you!

[lyric cargo]

I think I missed something.. this was without breaking its shield, it still took > 50% damage from Mavuika burst

I assume what makes it hard is plat?

[rugged sparrow]

mayhaps

[carmine crypt]

The more modifiers, the more hp he gets

Plus the shield

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[carmine crypt]

Which buffs his res

What did y’all run to plat the crab

[carmine crypt]

I just thought he could basically hit both crystals at once maybe it was just me doing something wrong

[rugged sparrow]

just monohydro

Xq Furi Yelan Xilo

[carmine crypt]

[rugged sparrow]

they're pretty invested so though might not be applicable to everyone

[nova swift]

my favourite hydro character, Xilonen

[rugged sparrow]

why only 16 crown

where are the other two

[nova swift]

It's not possible to get the other two crowned until a future patch

[rugged sparrow]

sounds like to me you're not a Lumine main enough

[opal surge]

I haven't done the rest of the bosses yet because I got tilted on the first boss because Mav kept flying away with nightsoul transmission

[rugged sparrow]

bypass the game's limitation smh

[opal surge]

I was actually crashing out

[carmine crypt]

I mean I’m running mh on furina instead of gt, that’d cause any issues?

[rugged sparrow]

c6 Furi?

[carmine crypt]

Can relate

yes I don’t know what you are talking about

[rugged sparrow]

if c6 Furi then idk how you'd struggle

just wallop that crab

[carmine crypt]

Be building my team like crap

[nova swift]

I also don't have furina or Xilonen

[opal surge]

[carmine crypt]

Maybe I got too distracted by the crystals

[nova swift]

I do have C6R5 Neuvilette though

[rugged sparrow]

I mean it only does crystal move once

[opal surge]

Why is this chat full of whales

[rugged sparrow]

don't think I have any issue with Furina + remotely good hydro app

[nova swift]

I only get welkin/bp

[rugged sparrow]

Furina + c0 Yelan is barely making it so I just slap Xq

[carmine crypt]

I saved for half a year for furina

[lyric cargo]

pulling c6 r5 because you like the char, then making sure it's not too easy by not getting good supports?

[nova swift]

I don't pull for any characters that use visions

[carmine crypt]

I tried to use kazu to break the crystals which I don’t think worked to well for me

[rugged sparrow]

Kazu is

also had the idea to hydro infuse burst but it's too RNG

so I just settled with triple hydro

[nova swift]

I also only use a character if they are C6

[carmine crypt]

Yeah, I noticed if I do it too late I’d end up swirling pyro

[opal surge]

The worst thing about the whale combat events is that I never have bufffood ready

I should start farming it in advance

[carmine crypt]

I just use adeptus to prog and crit food when I’m clearing

[rugged sparrow]

u cant stack adeptus and crit food though

since they're both same category

[carmine crypt]

I know

I use adeptus to prog since I have more of it

So when I know I’m close to plat

I switch to crit

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

I just use no food at all for test runs

plus I'm sure Adeptus can be better than crit food depending

[carmine crypt]

Why do it the hard way when you can cheat

[rugged sparrow]

no like for the test runs

[opal surge]

I don't use food until I'm sure I can plat next try

Because I don't have food to spare

I don't even have adeptus temp left

[rugged sparrow]

I have food to spare but I'm lazy af

fucking fishes man

[carmine crypt]

I mean I craft adeptus for bp

That’s why I have so many

[lyric cargo]

why not eggs?
cheapest food to craft

[opal surge]

Me sitting here figuring out what pot to drink in chasca teams

[rugged sparrow]

anemo surely

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

dont u just drink hydro so ur Furina gets cracked too

wait I forgot

you run double pyro with Mav

u fucking filthy whale u

[opal surge]

I'm not a whale I am but a humble c0r2 player

[rugged sparrow]

???

where'd the r2 come from

[opal surge]

From the same pull as the R1 did

[lyric cargo]

this is why single pulls are superior 😄

[opal surge]

Unfortunately chasca herself took me to 85 pity and made me lose 50/50 on c1 after

[rugged sparrow]

look at this whale

[carmine crypt]

And I’m a humble c2r1 for the same reason

[lyric cargo]

(I'm also guilty of it, did 10-pulls on mavuika and now I have 9 pity and c7 Diona instead of a potential Lan Yan or Chevreuse..)

[neon wave]

look at this whel reserve of a channel

[carmine crypt]

It was an accident I swear

I blame hoyo

[lyric cargo]

I think everyone just becomes a whale given enough time
didn't spend a single cent on the game and I still probably count

[rugged sparrow]

everyone's whale by default

[opal surge]

If you have a con which I don't own you are a whale

[carmine crypt]

[neon wave]

true

[carmine crypt]

Name one

[lyric cargo]

c1 r1 Mavuika, c1 Neuvilette, c2 Nahida..

give me another year and not enough chars I'm interested in, and it'll be c2 Furina and c2 Citlali as well

[rugged sparrow]

look at this whale

c2 Citlali

[opal surge]

[carmine crypt]

Show weapons, maybe you have r5 everything

[lyric cargo]

I pretty much bottomed out my primos now, though. lost three 50/50s in a row

[rugged sparrow]

r15 Lamp

[rugged sparrow]

Mav with sig

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

actually whale

[opal surge]

I'm as broke as it gets now too

[rugged sparrow]

which is better

[wicked locust]

Is this some hidden navia painslasher tech I don't know about?

[rugged sparrow]

being broke or having too many pulls for a char god knows where

where's Wrio man

[opal surge]

Wrio is surely coming any time now

[rugged sparrow]

pls

[opal surge]

[neon wave]

are you going for c6

[opal surge]

How far are U going

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[lyric cargo]

she's still waiting to be fully built, I'll strongbox her artifact set in 6.0

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

you have no idea how tempted I am with this 300+ish pulls

[wicked locust]

Slap 2pc 2pc like me fr

[rugged sparrow]

I want Mav sig but at the same time I need to wait for 5.4 livestream to check Wrio

fucking hell

[neon wave]

I can't believe you all got Mav

Meta slaves 😔

[rugged sparrow]

archon collection

couldn't actually care less whether she was good or not

[lyric cargo]

I regret pulling Kagura's Verity for Nahida btw
and SoSS for Xiangling

early days me didn't know which chars are worth getting weapons for

[rugged sparrow]

actually pissed even because I can't pair her + Klee that well

[wicked locust]

Wish I had mavuika's signature for her sadge

[rugged sparrow]

Klee demoted to TTDS supp for Mav atp

[lyric cargo]

overworld utility
that's actually why I got c1

[carmine crypt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865772611400368169/1329737396547227648/Untitled.png?ex=678f6274&is=678e10f4&hm=a000bacf26e0a823a070c534813ff366caba23f87afba802aeeb51b692bb4d83&

[neon wave]

wao
nice

[rugged sparrow]

good build

too bad it's 2p2p

[carmine crypt]

I wouldn’t get this kind of luck ever again

[wicked locust]

I don't wanna enter that domain

[lyric cargo]

now, which of us got more pyro archons in one go?

[rugged sparrow]

REAL

[wicked locust]

Nighttime is like

Vermillion of genshin impact

[opal surge]

Ur c1 already or?

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

I like Mav

[lyric cargo]

(who?)

[wicked locust]

Why are y'all c0r2 everywhere?

[rugged sparrow]

I can explain

[wicked locust]

I didn't know you were a whale

[lyric cargo]

I bet the reason is 10-pulling 🤣

[rugged sparrow]

coursed to Verdict, won 50/50
coursed to Key, lost to Verdict and got Key after

[carmine crypt]

This is the whale channel after all

[wicked locust]

Wait a second

[opal surge]

@rugged sparrow wrio I mean

[rugged sparrow]

oh yeah

[wicked locust]

Is that 4pc gt on attack goblet????

[rugged sparrow]

ye atk goblet better for my specific team

cuz I'm running like 300% dmg bonus and 0 atk buff

[wicked locust]

What's the team?

[rugged sparrow]

Furina Yelan Xilo

[wicked locust]

So u have c1 furina and c2 xilo too

[rugged sparrow]

c2 Furina, c0r1 Xilo

[opal surge]

[wicked locust]

Got the whole blue whale here

[rugged sparrow]

Furina is legit my only meta pull

[carmine crypt]

Geez I expect to see everyone here to get plat by tomorrow

[rugged sparrow]

rest I pull cuz I like them

[rugged sparrow]

wdym tomorrow

[neon wave]

true whales get gold 2

[lyric cargo]

it's what she's on
I didn't bother leveling talents further when I decided to postpone building her

[rugged sparrow]

820 rv flower SHEESH

[wicked locust]

Mf what is that er 😭

[carmine crypt]

Coz I’m busy redownloading hsr rn

[lyric cargo]

it's the weapon, I don't have great claymores

[opal surge]

You have navias bis weapon

[lyric cargo]

technically she could steal Mavuika's sig now

[wicked locust]

When did I even get this btw
Tf

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[lyric cargo]

it's better than her sig?

[opal surge]

ATBS is actually better than verdict

[rugged sparrow]

nerf ATBS pls

[neon wave]

is it really

[lyric cargo]

that is so sad

[opal surge]

Yeah

[neon wave]

don't make pull on wep banner please

[opal surge]

But verdict wasn't that great to begin with

[neon wave]

I want to unknow this

[rugged sparrow]

hey it got drip

[opal surge]

True I have verdict and I don't regret it

[rugged sparrow]

Verdict on Navia is more iconic than whatever the fuck ATBS is on her

[cedar flint]

verdict is cool looking and useful

[wicked locust]

Verdict is like
2nd coolest weapon in genshin

[opal surge]

Don't, it's bad drip

[carmine crypt]

Should I pull redhorn and build noelle for the memes

[rugged sparrow]

what's the 1st

[opal surge]

He's going to say CMS

[wicked locust]

The Scythe
But it's only good when arle uses it

[rugged sparrow]

GA;ODASOIJKDN

[opal surge]

Predictable

[wicked locust]

It's a scythe afterall

Btw
Is there any way to kill this mf here?

[rugged sparrow]

u just dmg it?

the shield is not elemental

[nova swift]

try using normal skills, elemental skills, and elemental bursts

[rugged sparrow]

it's just 1.1x of the mob HP as shield iirc

[lyric cargo]

if the team is Navia Ben Mav Xilonen
is it worth giving Navia Mav's sig
and Mav Earth Shaker?

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

nerfing Mav's dmg which is probably twice or thrice of Navia's

[wicked locust]

Wait a goodamn second whatttt???????????????????

Huhhhhhh???????
I thought that its a cryo shield ?????

[opal surge]

Honestly good question

[rugged sparrow]

nop

[carmine crypt]

Nah lol

[opal surge]

It turns into a cryo shield if you don't break it

[rugged sparrow]

u just quickswap Navia no and let Mav roadkill the enemies

KANSAI DURIFTOOO

[opal surge]

[wicked locust]

I am coming for you and your shield mf

[lyric cargo]

if you look at it closesly, it starts out white (not the cryo color)
then if you fail to clear it in time, the remainder turns into a cryo shield

[rugged sparrow]

yeah if u have enough DPS it's really not that hard

[wicked locust]

Do u think I can clear this with nuevelett only?

[rugged sparrow]

it's like what, less than 1m HP?

[lyric cargo]

it probably depends on your investment level on him
I was able to

[wicked locust]

Ig I'll just burst with him
Kazuha e ,fischl e,dehya e ,and bunga unga

[wicked locust]

( idk why he's lvl 85)

[lyric cargo]

alternatively I could try to fish for another copy of Mav's sig
but that seems super cope, compared to losing to WGS at some point and using that

[rugged sparrow]

HP rolls modcheck

literally 0 HP roll huh, amazing

[wicked locust]

Fuck hp

[rugged sparrow]

fr

[wicked locust]

Go er

[lyric cargo]

lvl 85 as well
so less baseHP

[rugged sparrow]

sir u proto amber with 146 ER

[wicked locust]

All my homies hate hp

[lyric cargo]

iirc they don't have Furina
so ER reqs will be higher

[wicked locust]

Yep

[lyric cargo]

not sure how high

[opal surge]

Neuv but no furina and Mav but no citlali

🧱

[wicked locust]

I'll R5 this pmber to assert dominance by bursting every skill

[wicked locust]

I only pull characters I like though 😔

[lyric cargo]

rotation should probably be something like:
Neuv skill
→ off-fielders
→ Neuv CA, skill, CA, burst
→ off-fielders
→ Neuv CA, CA

so no reason to burst every skill

[lyric cargo]

usually people pull for the chars they like + the supports to make them shine the most

otherwise they'd end up with an all on-fielder account, when 3 of the 4 chars you need for a team are off-fielders

[crude dirge]

how to pull for albedo

[lyric cargo]

wait for another Mondstadt chronicled wish and hope they make more good Mondstadt chars to lose to

[crude dirge]

next mondstadt chronicle wish wont happen im pretty sure

[lyric cargo]

because currently the good ones are.. Klee, end of list?

[crude dirge]

eul-

[lyric cargo]

who?

[rugged sparrow]

even Klee has asterisk included

good with c2 for support

[opal surge]

Klee vape with furina is at least not bad compared to the other mondt characters though

Did she get an improvement with cit or nah

[rugged sparrow]

she can run plunge melt

which is pretty pog but atp just Diluc

[opal surge]

[crude dirge]

any character with furina is at least not bad compared to the other characters though

[opal surge]

Eula with furina is very bad compared to other characters

And it is her best team

[rugged sparrow]

Noelle with Furina is stonks

Itto got shafted hard

[opal surge]

Did you know that Noelle is as good as vv xiao for furina yelan xilo

https://gcsim.app/sh/RtmpFK8ck7GH behold my greatest creation

[rugged sparrow]

[crude dirge]

noelle solo?

[rugged sparrow]

in that team

[rugged sparrow]

is this on-field Yelan or smth

Xiao literally just E swap

[opal surge]

Xiao my goat

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

Yeah it's mare onfield yelan

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-gif-14465458220549268962

[wicked locust]

Me moment

[lyric cargo]

at least there's Xilonen 😄

just need Furina and Citlali

what's your Ga Ming constellation?
(asking because I see Xianyun, but it's probably not as good as Mavuika anyways)

[wicked locust]

C6 😎😎😎😎

[lyric cargo]

slightly overcapping on crit rate, I think?

[crude dirge]

and 80/80 lvl

[wicked locust]

41 + 36 ( mare ) + 20

97

[lyric cargo]

Xianyun gives 4 - 10% as well

[crude dirge]

mappa mare gives crit rate?

🤔

[wicked locust]

Oh ya forgor about it

[neon wave]

marechaussee

[crude dirge]

mappa mare

[wicked locust]

Mf marechusse hunter artifact set

Dats why no one gives you welkin,billy

[crude dirge]

ion need welkin anymore 🤫

[wicked locust]

I'm kinda struggling with 4th slot for his team though
Gaming benny xianyun and idk who to put on 4th

[lyric cargo]

Citlali

[wicked locust]

Mavuika situation
But at least I can c2d with xingqui

[wicked locust]

Surely on rerun

[lyric cargo]

yeah, already at Bennett it became hard to run him with Mav

[crude dirge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkIs37a2JE

[lyric cargo]

(by that I mean Ga Ming one side, Mavuika on the other side)

[crude dirge]

bros high

[wicked locust]

What if I run

[crude dirge]

then ur mahito

[wicked locust]

Navia first half
Instead of nuevelett

[crude dirge]

whats new abyss i forgot

havent done it yet

[wicked locust]

Fat guy,Sunni,cryo energy sucker first half
New cryo women,2 small PAPILLAS,1 big papilla second half

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus i have gone through my yearly profile shift

Ssg will be miss!

[primal latch]

How is this mavuika? Is it good enough?

[opal surge]

Em is quite low if youre playing melt or vape

[primal latch]

Will it be better to use em sands even if it only have 35 cv

??

[rugged sparrow]

should be if you dont have external EM buffers

alternatively you replace that flower which is kinda

5 whole rolls

[primal latch]

I didnt notice the flower haha. Thanks yall

If i dont have citlali, who is a good cryo applicator for mavuika?

[opal surge]

you should consider playing furina or yelan

[rugged sparrow]

I don't think anyone gets close, maybe Rosaria

[opal surge]

if you have neither of those you can turn to kaeya or rosa

[primal latch]

Thankss

[haughty lotus]

Who tv are you

@small blade get back here

[small blade]

[dusty cape]

[nimble bison]

i almost have 260 artifacts and only like 5 of them are usable for mavuika or citlali, is this normal

[hollow moss]

I couldn’t find my original question so I might ask again if it’s ok, is there a way to view the death total after completing the Nathan quest? Again it jumped from 1907 to 4000 back to 1907 so I’m just curious if it actually stayed low 😭

[nimble bison]

i dont think so and i doubt it atleast ingame

[hollow moss]

Ok, tysm!

[dull smelt]

how do i get the chest here?

Nvm i figured it out

[nimble bison]

what do u guys think about this.... it was intended for mavuika

[quaint fern]

Xiangling piece

[violet cipher]

In terms of talents/artifacts, is this Sucrose good to use for abyss? If not, what do I need to work on for her?

[nimble bison]

what do you guys think,i spent 27 fragile resin and this is the best i could get
C2 r4, so
i get 40% extra crit rate from artifact set. and i get 35 crit damage and 49% atk from weapon passive, and an extra 75% of that

i got like 10 atk% rolls on that and 4 flat atk rolls on that
i know it has energy recharge, but its stuck on a sands which has 34.2 CV

[unkempt river]

Why doesn't this look like it did before? And why is Kinich, Kachina and Mavuika grayed out?

[rugged sparrow]

crit too low for Fav + she generally wants other weap since her burst reliance depends on team

[opal surge]

because you didnt do their story quests

[rugged sparrow]

isnt Kachina tied to archon quest

[opal surge]

maybe

but you need to finish AQ to have this screen no

[rugged sparrow]

I dont have the slightest idea why Kachina is greyed out

[unkempt river]

I've done all of their story quests

my tribal reputation quests are all done
chronicled thing or whatever the new one is called

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

lets just chalk it up to hoyo being hoyo

[unkempt river]

||and mavs story quest was the one with xbalanque, right? ||

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[unkempt river]

kiniches was with big veggie

[rugged sparrow]

Kongamato

[unkempt river]

yeah I've done them

[unkempt river]

Big veggie

[rugged sparrow]

big phat fuck

[violet cipher]

I can give her a sac weapon, anything else?

[rugged sparrow]

TTDS is generally her go-to if you're looking purely to buff your dmg dealer

[violet cipher]

I have that on Citlali so I can't really do that

[rugged sparrow]

what team anyway

Mav Bennett Citlali Sucrose?

Sac works then

[violet cipher]

Arle/Bennet/Citlali/Sucrose
I could go Kaz instead but someone here told me to do Sucrose

[rugged sparrow]

Kaz is annoying to setup

assuming u want to melt Arle anyway

but I don't think Citlali solo cryo is enough, you just slap a 2nd cryo like Layla/Kaeya/Rosa

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message someone else explained to me that double cryo doesn't really work well in this comp or at least it's too awkward to reasonably play.

[rugged sparrow]

I think you misread?

Sensi said solo cryo Citlali is the one that's awkward to play

because you'll have to wait for Citlali cryo app to kick in before NA with Arle

so you'll have awkward pauses in-between your combos

[opal surge]

double cryo works, but you lose either ins or scroll if you dont get insane ER

i personally prefer arle sucrose citlali bennet fwiw

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message he says the cryo support Rosaria is awkward/difficult because her procing instructors isn't optimal. Even with Instructors bennet it's awkward.

[rugged sparrow]

smh greeding for buffs

[opal surge]

my main gripe with rosa is that rosa doesnt actually do anything

[rugged sparrow]

never ends well

[opal surge]

she cant proc ins and she technically doesnt give more melts

but she makes melting easier

[rugged sparrow]

yeah but pausing in-between combos is

[opal surge]

and that has value if you value it

[rugged sparrow]

what if I just wanna unga bunga

[opal surge]

its true

I think I said to try both and stick to what feels better

[rugged sparrow]

greed for buffs

also double cryo allows the melted hits to have +15% cr due to resonance
HUGE

big value right there

[violet cipher]

Arle has 82% by default I'm gonna overcap

*default I mean after artifacts

[rugged sparrow]

look point is just try the teams out first

see what you like then optimize later

[opal surge]

if you greed for buffs you get funnier number

esp top half this abyss with 70% free dmg bonus

[rugged sparrow]

big numbers = serotonin

[violet cipher]

I assume I should test the team on the 1st side not the 2nd If I'm testing on abyss?

I could also test against the boss event ig, I think the robot one would be good for this kind of test

[violet cipher]

I also have a C4 layla and while I don't have petra I do have ToM - I'll test that to.

[rugged sparrow]

what does petra have anything to do with double cryo melt Arle team

[violet cipher]

Idk what petra does

I thought I did

[rugged sparrow]

35% bonus dmg to corresponding elemental when the user picks up a crystallize shard

[violet cipher]

Long story short, it’s between the Layla and Sucrose team but tbf I used the same rotation for each so I probably didn’t proc instructors.

I got these times for P1, none of them I really felt I needed to reset - I only reset cause of P2 which I didn’t count. Also I’d like to use Bennet in Chasca trans so it’s going to get annoying if I run two sets for Bennet.

Worthy of note, Layla has Key so if I need Nilou for P2 then I’ll probably go with Sucrose

[junior moat]

Can someone help me clear the event on EU server

[lyric cargo]

for Mav, it's unfortunate it rolled into ER
5 useful substats now (just the crit)

I'd use it until you get better, 5 is at least decent

[lyric cargo]

enka card for better feedback

[jovial prawn]

Should I get arlecchino? Or furina? Oh and please any other recommendations as well. Idk much.... And want to properly enter game now. Except for columbina no other character excites me for now so no emotional pulls. Please someone 🤞🏻

[strange scarab]

get both

[lyric cargo]

I'd say Furina, Xilonen, Mavuika, Citlali

Furina first, since if you miss her rerun it's likely to take quite some time until the next
(as an archon, she runs once per major game version)

Xilonen is a good generalist support, who'll improve one of your teams no matter which ones you go for

Mavuika doesn't improve your existing teams, but would be my personal pick. Since I value having a unit with overworld mobility, and she's pretty strong for abyss / etc as well.

Citlali as Mavuika's BiS support, but also just a good unit in general.

Arle is very optional, if you're getting Mavuika. And out of the two of them, I'd pick Mav.

[jovial prawn]

@lyric cargo ah thanks so much 🤞🏻 keeping aside any new characters as we don't know about them from the re runs characters until columbina release (which i expect) can you tell me what characters i should go for? I will go with furina for now. Mauvika is kind of difficult for me. I was reconsidering arlecchino as well as i already have a okesih (currently) Pyro dps. So furina xilonen then who else should I try for next?

[lyric cargo]

can you tell me what characters i should go for

I thought I did (Furina, Xilonen, Mavuika, Citlali)

I'd get Mavuika on a rerun though, if you want to make sure you can get Furina

chars generally get a rerun before the version they were released in is over

[lyric cargo]

I think these four would be the most "meta" pulls as well

[meager lintel]

is there anything i have to do specifically on citlali for a mavuika team?

e.g skill then burst, just skill, etc

[jovial prawn]

@lyric cargo so she'll get a rerun before natlan ends? Will she be first in archon reruns this time then?

[strange scarab]

EQN1

[meager lintel]

ok cool tyt

[jovial prawn]

Alright then thanks i'll consider her. What teams should I work on currently? I am using
alhaitham nahida yelan kuki.
Hutao xingqiu mona/ayaka kazuha/venti/layla/benett

And am able to clear upto 10 floors perfectly. I clear 11 but not with all stars. This was before few months. I kind of ignored the game for a while... Now I just came back.

[lyric cargo]

Furina, or Mavuika?

we're already mostly done with archon reruns
just Furina and Venti to go, I think

[lyric cargo]

I'd suggest neither:

• Arle's sig is good on her (but nobody else). But Arle's c1 is arguably better than her r1. The 4-stars on the banner are better. And you might get Clorinde's sig which you haven't indicated you need.
• Jade cutter isn't a very relevant weapon recently, I think? Most chars have better options.

[sick quarry]

i have arlecchino c1 and chlorinde c0

no weapons

[dusky oxide]

Can anyone help me pick a team for 2nd half?

[crude dirge]

yoimiya kazuha yunjin yelan?

@dusky oxide

[dusky oxide]

nvm I got it with ayato yelan fish xiangling

[zealous ledge]

Wait

Having one copy of a character is c0

But having one copy of a weapon is....

...r1?

Why is this?

[lyric cargo]

you got Ororon?

[keen willow]

Because r0 sounds ugly

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably use electro-charged, need something that hits frequently

[zealous ledge]

Is that really the reason-

[keen willow]

There's no reason

[rugged sparrow]

because that's just how it is?

[lyric cargo]

I think it's just how they made it, I think r0 would sound fine

[forest venture]

[lyric cargo]

but it's hard to change something like this, you'd have to explain every time

[crude dirge]

r1 is cuz when u get a weapon its refinement rank ONE

[zealous ledge]

Okay I mean I know it is like that I just wanted to know if there was a reason!! It would make more sense if it was c0 and r0 yk!!

[crude dirge]

if its signature its called r1

[rugged sparrow]

ask the devs

at that point you'd also ask why chars go up until c6 while weapons stop at r5

[crude dirge]

why chars go up to c6, weapons up to r5 and my braincells count stops at 2?

[keen willow]

Yea max refined at r4 would also look ugly

[forest venture]

c6r5 xl goes hard

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-gun-bullet-ammo-gif-14204732

[zealous ledge]

Okieee thanks for the answers everybody :3

[forest venture]

my mavuika damage ruined
i did not do ochkanatlan quest and did not pull citlali

[opal surge]

the game calls it refinement level 1 and constellation level 0

[strange scarab]

Hello guys i need to know which banner to build pity on

[rugged sparrow]

chronicled

[lyric cargo]

I read that as Clorinded for a second

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

Is Fischl c6, btw?

aggravate could be viable as well

you want something that can break the cryo shield in chamber 1. So either pyro or Fischl + on-field electro

[opal surge]

I think he made it already

[lyric cargo]

ah, missed this

[brave knot]

Has any one hit 3M in open world bosses

[still moth]

Does Ianyan need atk for strong shield

And is her shield very strong like zhongli?

[rugged sparrow]

yes and yes

[opal surge]

do i post misleading shield strength calcs and end up regretting it in case theyre requoted without context

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[opal surge]

credit hyperwebster xd

(no this does not mean that lanyan is a better shielder than zl)

[rugged sparrow]

with Bennett buff + 2 atk main stats it should be very well above ZL I bet

[opal surge]

i think lanyan shield doesnt snapshot atk actually fromw hat I was told

it actually shrinks when she leaves the field when cast on bennet burst

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

but I cant test it myself yet so thats just what I was told

[rugged sparrow]

I can test but im lazy asf

I'm wondering why they run er/dmg/crit Lanyan though

and then runs TTDS like ???

[opal surge]

its theoretically optimal for teamdps

[rugged sparrow]

honey are u trying to support or DPS

[opal surge]

im not sure which team this was calced on

I think it was wandy but I might be wrong

[rugged sparrow]

Wanderer with Lan Yan as shielder sounds cope asf ngl

[narrow folio]

So judging from this alone what I'm seeing is that Lan Yan is a better shielder than Zhongli, thanks Sensi

[opal surge]

I dont know I dont own wanderer nor do I have much interest in him

[lyric cargo]

how does that work if the shield has already taken damage?

let's say it's a 10k hp shield.
It tanks 5k damage.
I lose enough atk to make it an 8k shield.

Do I have 3k left now?

[rugged sparrow]

real

[opal surge]

I dont know, i think it might dynamically shrink but honeslty no clue

testing shield strength is also quite annoying

[rugged sparrow]

if it dynamically shrinks then it'd drop to 4k

[opal surge]

since you cant just check a statpage

[rugged sparrow]

cuz 5k is 50% of 10k

also that

need to manually calculate dmg numbers

to see if it actually shrinks

[opal surge]

Yeah I wont be testing this but if someone does let me know the results

[rugged sparrow]

samege

though Lan Yan is cute so in any case she's getting levels

[narrow folio]

Triple crown or bust

dps lanyan with c6 faruzan

[keen willow]

Another anemo crystals shortage 😔

[rancid cypress]

lan

[silk mango]

does chlorinde weapon work well on any1 except her?

[opal surge]

its an okay statstick and good for bennet

[rancid cypress]

if u think about it its a skyward harp but sword

[opal surge]

true

[rugged sparrow]

yan

[rancid cypress]

fei

[rugged sparrow]

xiao

[rancid cypress]

lantern

[rugged sparrow]

rite

[rancid cypress]

of progeniture tectonic tide

[rugged sparrow]

.

[rancid cypress]

idk its albedo burst apparently

[rugged sparrow]

yes

I just wasn't expecting it

[rancid cypress]

skill names are too hard to remember

[rancid cypress]

i finally got my arle

[rugged sparrow]

yippe

c3 or

[mighty slate]

When is lantern rite released?

[rancid cypress]

soon

[rancid cypress]

c

[rugged sparrow]

c

[mighty slate]

Boy

[rancid cypress]

sigma sigma boy

[neon wave]

main event starts on the 24th

[mighty slate]

TY REI

[rugged sparrow]

not triple it's joever

[mighty slate]

I hope you have a amazing rest of your life🙏🙏🤕💯

[neon wave]

true
Where level 13 skill

[rancid cypress]

time to hide

[neon wave]

wao thanks

[rugged sparrow]

the shame of not triple crowning

[rancid cypress]

sry i ran out of books

[rugged sparrow]

get more

[mighty slate]

THANK YOU

[rancid cypress]

or more like i had enough but i just leveled chevs skill more instead

[rugged sparrow]

gotta get that quad E value

[rancid cypress]

now i do big number normal attacks

truly da big 3

[rugged sparrow]

gotta rewind the patch first

[rancid cypress]

until back when for some reason alhaitham was in the gang

[rugged sparrow]

he's green

big 3 have always been red green blue cuz yes

[rancid cypress]

does this mean kinich new big 3

[silk mango]

what abt allhaitham? i am currently using iron sting on him

[rancid cypress]

mualani mavuika chasca(the background is green)
actually true theory

[opal surge]

it might be better than iron sting but im not actually sure

[lyric cargo]

who are the big three?

[rugged sparrow]

just what ppl think are the "top DPSes"
funnily enough it has always been red / green / blue palette for as long as I know it

used to be Hu Tao / Ganyu / Xiao

[lyric cargo]

huh. So Mavuika Neuvilette Arlecchino

red, blue, red

[rugged sparrow]

Arle is red

demoted by Mav

(don't think too much of it though)

it's just a stupid list and ppl like to take a jab on it

[lyric cargo]

I think Arle as number 3 is debatable tbh / depends on the reason for the list. Since either Arle or Mav have to go without Bennett, if they're ever used for the same abyss

[rugged sparrow]

if we're using no repeat supports then Mav / Mua / Xiao are like three easy picks

Mav/Xilo/Citlali/Bennett
FFXX
Mua/Xiangling/whatever the fuck's left

[lyric cargo]

hmm
I do have c6 Faru and Xianyun

always skipped Xiao since he'd take Furina from Neuv

[rugged sparrow]

I mean just Diluc plunge it (or Gaming)

Faruzan dead in the ditch

[lyric cargo]

I do have c6 Ga Ming

he's freed from needing Furina now, but using him over my c1 r1 Mav is probably questionable

[lyric cargo]

maybe if they stop randomly giving enemies 70% anemo res, I'll consider him again

[opal surge]

I havent thought about no repeats yet but still i feel like xiao must be a sneak

i think with no repeats alhaitham might actually be in the conversation again

[rugged sparrow]

no repeat haitham is like what

quickbloom + Furinage?

I'm fairly sure FFXX is just better

[little plinth]

anyone know what Element set are Iniquitous Baptist boss on friday ?

[rancid cypress]

whats a no repeat alhaitham

[rugged sparrow]

was just making who'd likely be top 3 if the supports/chars are no repeat

[rancid cypress]

so like what 3 team abyss type of assumption

[rugged sparrow]

ye

there's a nice endgame content in ZZZ where you use 3 teams of no repeat
genshin when

[lyric cargo]

I guess most realistically, you want to be able to build 2 teams - and swap one out for the third best when there's an abyss that makes the team unviable

[rancid cypress]

idk tbh im too dumb for this

[rugged sparrow]

im too brainrotten for this

[rancid cypress]

the only time i talk with a braincell functioning in genshin regards is when i fend off the entire maincord help chat from saying meta doesnt exist now

[rugged sparrow]

ppl who say meta doesn't exist probs dont even understand what meta means

[rancid cypress]

that is often the case

theres also one with powercreep doesnt exist and this ones a little more controversial but i think now there definitely is a clear powercreep but when i use the word powercreep i get ganged up by like 15 ppl there

but then i should say it more often to troll em tho

[rugged sparrow]

"powercreep doesn't exist"
Mavuika blowing literally any DPS out of the water:

[rancid cypress]

i kinda lost part of my soul when they used the "but can it beat (element) slime" joke but as a genuine unironic argument

[opal surge]

I think its
Mav citlali sucrose Bennet
Neuvilette Furina Xilonen Kazuha
Clorinde Chevreuse Fischl/sara Xiangling/thomas

[rancid cypress]

clorindes on the table based

[opal surge]

wait actually its

Mav citlali sucrose Bennet
Neuv furina kazuha ZL
Mualani candace xilonen xiangling no

as much as im clorinde biased

[rancid cypress]

that works idk which is better

[lyric cargo]

my experience with big #general chats is pretty low
not even related to genshin, just being the first place everyone lands hurts them

[rancid cypress]

pretty low

[lyric cargo]

oh, Clorinde is in top 3 under that assumption?
Guess I know who to build pity on, trying to get Chevreuse and Lan Yan

[opal surge]

i think its more fair to say mualani

[rancid cypress]

but yea i just enjoy trolling on em

[lyric cargo]

makes sense

[rancid cypress]

overall yea prob

for current actual in game moment the past few abyss has been good for clorinde and i like that

[rugged sparrow]

no no no u see big 3 has to be red green blue

[rancid cypress]

the green is for bloom core

[opal surge]

unlucky

time for the dendro sneak

[rugged sparrow]

Kinich deadge cuz Bennett

[rancid cypress]

just put clorinde agg

[rancid cypress]

the first thing i did upon getting her

second half is such a fun gimmick

[opal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-drop-gif-1982649100088909979

c6 xilo haver wtf

[rancid cypress]

shh

[slim igloo]

Does somebody help me build my team?

[devout spruce]

Can any1 help me Jadeplum Terrorshroom pls im in Asia Server (word level 5)

[bold crag]

Guys does my rolls on my phone carry over to my ps4

[quaint fern]

Yes

However, sony has a scummy thing where genesis crystals that you buy on their platform don't carry over or smth

So you'll need to convert them on PlayStation

Or buy skins on PS

[mighty slate]

Guys is Mona a good support if yes what does she buff?

[tribal kelp]

Yes she is, idk what she does though

[lyric cargo]

she's pretty narrow, her dmg% buff doesn't last long outside freeze

[mighty slate]

Oh

Does she buff a specific stat?

[quaint fern]

Just level her enough to work in theatre then stop

[limber pollen]

Anyone on EU with a stelar reunion account to farm for arlecchino's weapon mats?

[quaint fern]

DMG %

[leaden pecan]

Can somebody Carry me on this domain? 😃

[lyric cargo]

dmg%, the same stat as you get from a hydro dmg% goblet for example (or pyro dmg%, cryo dmg%, etc)

[quaint fern]

Like a mini Furina but with worse hydro app and worse buffs and SIGNIFICANTLY shorter buffs

[mighty slate]

Ohh so elemental bonuses?

[quaint fern]

Short like Xiao om

[lyric cargo]

anything that deals damage with talents

[mighty slate]

What stats does she need?

[quaint fern]

ER

[rugged sparrow]

she mostly needs ER to get burst every rotation

[lyric cargo]

yeah, her ER req is really high I hear

[quaint fern]

Just forget about everything else and give her a support set + fav codex + er sands

[rugged sparrow]

especially since she won't be catching her own particles

[mighty slate]

Thank yew guys

[lyric cargo]

she can hold ttds to buff atk scalers, though it might be hard to get enough ER with that weapon (?)
I'm not sure

and you might not get the ttds buff every rotation

[rugged sparrow]

really depends on team but ye

[mighty slate]

I’ll just use fav

[opal surge]

ttds prevents mona from catching her own particles

[quaint fern]

Depends on your substats quality probably, I'm not too familiar with her ER reqs

[opal surge]

but yeah it depends on team

[rugged sparrow]

you generally just Favo her and

[quaint fern]

I swear for freeze she needs like 230 or smth

[lyric cargo]

oh, you can't use skill → burst? gotta burst → swap?

[lyric cargo]

I thought it was like 300

[rugged sparrow]

even in Ayaka freeze where she can theoretically catch her own particles with TTDS it's still

[opal surge]

she makes her particles when her e pops xd

[rugged sparrow]

at least Favo u lower Ayaka/whole team's ER req

[opal surge]

average mona ER requirements

[rugged sparrow]

huge

[mighty slate]

Oh.

[quaint fern]

I think I'm thinking of morganna with double fav

[rugged sparrow]

Venti hydro infuse

[lyric cargo]

what the
when it ends?! but that's so long, do you have to swap back to her to catch?

[rugged sparrow]

that's the thing

depending on team you just never catch her particles

[quaint fern]

Oh yeah he has that energy refund talent huh

[rugged sparrow]

and her ER req goes through the roof

[rugged sparrow]

ppl underrate 15 energy refund

[quaint fern]

15 is pretty massive

U see it on jean, her self refund lowers her reqs by a lot

[lyric cargo]

heck, the 6 from 2pc scroll are pretty good
(granted, it triggers multiple times on Xilonen teams or ones with multiple Natlan chars)

[rugged sparrow]

Diona 🗣️

[quaint fern]

One trigger per rotation on my single natlan teams

[rugged sparrow]

Xilo can force trigger Nightsoul Burst herself

though depending on team, Xilo doesn't even care about the energy cuz she just doesn't burst

en2 my beloved

[quaint fern]

Not in my Furina teams

[lyric cargo]

I'm kinda coping we'll get another set in Natlan,
something with higher uptime than petra / instructor

since they made Mavuika a char who wants multiple Natlan teammates

or maybe I should start strongboxing petra

people say it actually feels good on Xilonen, who can collect the geo shard she creates easily
it's just how early she is in the rotation and how short it lasts that makes me not want to use it

[opal surge]

you could start the rotation with mona e in teams like chasca, and then she actually catches her own particles

but then you lose TTDS

Or yeah ayaka teams where ayaka can actually swap out to let mona catch hers

[quaint fern]

It's honestly pretty strange that we haven't

[opal surge]

scroll confuses me, it looks visually like it should be xilos signature set but it kinda sucks on her ngl

[quaint fern]

We're probably getting a new one for our next expansion

(weird that we haven't gotten the collective of plenty yet tbh)

[rugged sparrow]

we probably will when last tribe is available

[opal surge]

the energy on 2p is unnecessary even if she wants to burst every rotation and she by default scrolls geo as second element which is nice for geo teams but kinda sus every where else

[quaint fern]

Finishing the AQ without iansan on the splash screen bc she's not out yet

[rugged sparrow]

though it's just a hunch since hoyo has broken the artifact pattern in Natlan

[quaint fern]

Hoyo fr benched one of their "main" story characters

[lyric cargo]

it's honestly funny how Mavuika turned this part of my Arle value assessment on its head

previously: "Arle is a good second team to run with Neuv, as she doesn't need Furina"
now: "I'd like someone who can run Furina, for when the abyss is not good for Neuv"

[rugged sparrow]

and this is why u have 7 different element teams with no repeating chars

[opal surge]

its honestly bennets fault

[rugged sparrow]

ppl: "hope Mav is a 2nd Bennett or a better, 5-star XL!"
hoyo: "so anyway Mav is the best DPS there is"

"she also wants other Natlanese chars to function. maybe Bennett too"

[quaint fern]

Half of the characters in this game are balanced around bennett

[opal surge]

if you take bennet from mav shes kinda balanced

[rugged sparrow]

hell take Citlali and Xilo out too

she'll still beat Yoi probably

[opal surge]

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/yoimiya-genshin-impact-gif-3940890010843710296

[rugged sparrow]

Mav melted burst initial probably outDPS Yoi's entire DPR

[opal surge]

the funniest thing about mav is that even in no reaction teams she still outdpses xiangling from offield purely because of how much damage her burst does even compeltely raw

[lyric cargo]

next patch: "to counter allegations of powercreep, we're nerfing Bennett."

[opal surge]

cinema

[rugged sparrow]

and then her E also has higher scaling than XL Q despite it not snapshotting

balanced out

[opal surge]

fk my screenshot was cut out xdd

nice damage share

[rugged sparrow]

kinda funny that they removed snapshot from newer units altogether so u cant Bennett

and then out of spite ppl just: on-field Emilie

[lyric cargo]

in unrelated news, I managed to dodge Clorinde

[rugged sparrow]

you say as if it's a good thing

Clorinde is a huge asset

https://tenor.com/view/clorinde-gif-15029436582289594436

I mean look at her

[lyric cargo]

73 pity, c1 Lan Yan, c4 Chevreuse

[rugged sparrow]

can c2 Lan Yan, nice

[lyric cargo]

convince me to go past soft pity

[rugged sparrow]

she's hot, need I say more?

[lyric cargo]

sorry, I only care about meta

[rugged sparrow]

in hitcount bullshit meta Clorinde is pretty good fwiw

if you're not into Kinich/Chasca

[opal surge]

clorindes "best" team now features mavuika as support and its only 40k dps behind mavuika as an onfielder

need I say more

[rugged sparrow]

ssssshhhhh

[opal surge]

its still a really good team though

feels really good to play too

[lyric cargo]

I like that it frees up Xilonen, Bennett and Citlali
40k dps though.. sheesh

[rugged sparrow]

I don't accept teams that shoehorn Mav just for Q bot

[lyric cargo]

I pulled hon her rather than Arle because of the flexibility
can run Furina and / or Nahida as well

[opal surge]

well it was thomas or xiangling before

mav is honestly a huge upgrade in gameplay feeling

[lyric cargo]

I believe Furina synergizes? or is the healing bad because of bond of life

[opal surge]

for clor OL