📌gimshim-help

[opal surge]

And xilo n2 during shield

but yeah its not looking great tbh

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I figured the additional electro app would result in Fischl A4 procs that would speed it up
I guess I lose the animation time

[lyric cargo]

right.. I thought since it's nightsoul damage it's beneficial

[lyric cargo]

tried without Raiden burst, made it less far
I'm trying to on-field Fischl instead, now

[quaint fern]

hoyoverse try to make a natlan dps character that I actually like challenge

otherwise these codex pieces are going to rot

(where is our 4* dps from this region?)

[quaint fern]

try on field nahida?

raiden burst probably takes too much time

[lyric cargo]

just tried that, no luck
I think I should refresh Oz when it ends, and on-field Xilonen a second time

[quaint fern]

maybe try waiting

so set up oz first

in that recording you were using xilonen when the shield wasn't up yet

[lyric cargo]

gotta place it outside the papilla, so it actually see when it expires rather than eyeballing it n_n

[quaint fern]

fischl a4 should be fine for papilla

I'll have to try later today bc I'm busy

[lyric cargo]

oh, I didn't actually notice it doesn't appear instantly
but I remember triggering fav before at the start, so that had to be the case

[quaint fern]

I was on call with a friend of mine who was trying to finish the last abyss and haitham hyperbloom worked fine

worst case just restart and come back with raiden on hyperbloom or smth

[lyric cargo]

yeah, Nahida hyperbloom worked for papilla last abyss as well

this time I brought a different team because of the cryo shield in 12-1-2

[quaint fern]

they 34'ed and then we realized that their neuvi was on 3 MH for some reason

[lyric cargo]

I actually 36-starred already, just trying out the suggestion from earlier ^^

[quaint fern]

so fixing that let them 36

I think I'm forced to ayaka the first half

[lyric cargo]

this was my cursed setup

[quaint fern]

bc I was doing some testing in overworld yesterday and ayaka team is not killing the boss in 12-1-2

[lyric cargo]

if Raiden aggravate can do 12-3-2, I'd have a single team run

[quaint fern]

oh yeah apparently sunfire doesn't work on papilla for some reason?

[lyric cargo]

oh

[quaint fern]

is what I saw on reddit, so I haven't confirmed it

[lyric cargo]

I didn't attempt chamber 3 with sunfire, since I already had 3 stars on chamber 1 and 3 with Neuv + Mav

[nimble bison]

what do i do with this thing

nvm i got it

[narrow folio]

@quaint fern Thoughts on Ganyu this abyss?

I saw Suanni was there

[quaint fern]

ask me in 9 hours

[narrow folio]

[nimble bison]

my ayaka nailed it, so ganyu can do aswell, atleast first half what i did

[quaint fern]

you just need to stagger the wayob with kazuha skill right?

and then it wont shield up or smth?

[narrow folio]

No idea

[jolly pulsar]

I want to pull for clorinde but dont want to use fischl as sub dps, can i also use raiden and with dendro traveler bcs i have no other valuable dendro character and jean, and if so what artifacts and weapons should i use on raiden, traveler and jean, i have R5 catch for raiden rn and aquilla for jean

[zinc tiger]

I might try to pull for Clorinde to

So that's am on same boat as you

[jolly pulsar]

she just looks to fire imo

[zinc tiger]

Yea I have Raiden and keqing so I think I need a other Electrio person so yea

[nimble bison]

ayaka r1 shene on skyward kazuha and yelan r1

but my second half team kinda carried with 3 star time
mostly struggled on the green boss with ayaka

[jolly pulsar]

i loved raiden when she came out but its getting kinda boring now, then i pulled keqing and i liked the fast playstyle and then i saw clorinde and yes

[zinc tiger]

So far I have

• 3 cyro
• 4 hydro
• 2 Air
• 3 Geo
• 4 pyro
• 2 electrio
• 2 dendro so yea and I get you

I don't got Catch and was to lazy to farm Catch so I open chest after chest to for her weapon and I got her weapon and her on same rerun

[nimble bison]

nice, i just use staff of homa i use for hutao for raiden

[zinc tiger]

I got hu tao wasn't planning on it

[jolly pulsar]

same😭

[zinc tiger]

Same with Navia

I remember beating the Archon quest in 4.3 or something and pulling due to free wish and I got Furina

I got citlali so I might try to get Clorinde

And if I get Clorinde than I might as well level up my Neuv

[lyric cargo]

I break it down like this for my account

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874914804349939766/1325939041148862506/grafik.png?ex=678a22b6&is=6788d136&hm=b0254824bc624463b639542204223ea2e77427194b86b6a580a40ce66f4bce6a&

it only really matters for theater, though

[zinc tiger]

Fair

[zinc tiger]

How do you do that?

[lyric cargo]

with 7 of each element + traveler, I can always enter the hardest difficulty (7 + 7 + 7 + 1 = 22)

[zinc tiger]

Other than Cyro Traveler

[lyric cargo]

but still need 4 good on-fielders and 15 decent off-fielders, to make 5 teams for the 10 floors (the 5th on-fielder can be a loan from a friend)

[narrow folio]

C1 Neuv, whale

[lyric cargo]

yeah, but it'll always be possible to make traveler the 22nd since we're only missing one element

[zinc tiger]

yea

[lyric cargo]

I wrote a script to make the chars on the hoyo website drag-N-droppable

[zinc tiger]

Oh nice

[lyric cargo]

the easiest way to do it yourself would probably be a tierlist

[zinc tiger]

So this all the people should I get Clorinde?

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I guess at some point f2p just reaches whale level if lucky with pulls / saving up enough
Mav is also c1 r1

[narrow folio]

Imagine having cons on five stars

[zinc tiger]

I am f2p and got c1 Nahida

[narrow folio]

Whales

[zinc tiger]

I am not

[lyric cargo]

I think an account only needs 1-2 on-fielders, everything beyond that is up to preference I guess

[zinc tiger]

Okay so is Clorinde worth me getting or nah?

So 44 pulls from my last 5 star

And who worth waiting for I know Xilonen one of them

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen might be the full list

maybe Kazuha, maybe Yelan

[zinc tiger]

I dodge Kazuha why I don't see him useful but if he good than I will why I got venti

[jolly pulsar]

if you like clorinde just get her

[lyric cargo]

rough comparison:

Kazuha: short duration 40% res shred + 40 dmg% buff + fast grouping

Venti: short duration 40% res shred + slow grouping

Xilonen: long duration 40% res shred + 40 dmg% buff + healing

Citlali: long duration 20% res shred + 40 dmg% buff + cryo app for melt + 48 atk% buff

[placid sparrow]

How long does it take for Fontaine aberrant to respawn?

[lyric cargo]

I think Kaz still has good use right now, but if they keep releasing units like this he might lose his spot on more and more teams

[lyric cargo]

local legend?

[placid sparrow]

No. The cute ones.

[opal surge]

Xilonen: long duration 40% res shred + 40 dmg% buff + healing

Xilonen: long duration 20% res shred + 40 dmg% buff + cryo app for melt + 48 atk% buff

What happened here

[lyric cargo]

brain went to sleep

fixed

[lyric cargo]

my guess would be 12h:
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Reset

[zinc tiger]

I try to getting Xilonen but didn't get her yea or I save up for Raiden I think

[lyric cargo]

take mine, I need a refund

[zinc tiger]

On?

[lyric cargo]

Raiden

[zinc tiger]

Why?

[lyric cargo]

dps with outdated quality of life

[zinc tiger]

Wait what?

[sick quarry]

She is great for hyperbloom tho.

[lyric cargo]

the main thing she has going for her is team variety

[zinc tiger]

Oh okay

[lyric cargo]

kuki is mostly better imo, since she heals

unless you need the range, like with Neuvilette hyperbloom

not that I'd recommend that (Neuv's kit is better suited to raw damage, with buffers, than using him for hydro application)

[lyric cargo]

she has very strict rotations, since she wants you to run teams where all 4 team members rely on their bursts to deal damage

[zinc tiger]

Oh okay

[lyric cargo]

her Furina teams not as much, I guess (Furina has good off-field damage with her skill)

[zinc tiger]

Could be a Sub dps

[lyric cargo]

the problem is, if you don't quite finish a chamber in one rotation

you might have to burst again, if you're running low on time to 36★

but that'll mean you won't have that burst charged at the start of the next chamber

[zinc tiger]

Fair

[sick quarry]

You can add bauzhi for that : )

[lyric cargo]

Furina? sure

Raiden: only for hyperbloom. her skill damage itself isn't good, if it's not hyperbloom then it's all about the burst

[zinc tiger]

Okay

[lyric cargo]

Baizhu? he increases bloom reaction damage

I wouldn't compare him to those 4

[feral reef]

I remember using baizhu on fielder 😮‍💨

[haughty lotus]

Uhm

[sick quarry]

Yeah : )

[feral reef]

What biyatch

[zinc tiger]

So I will try to get Clorinde

I know ^^ and I think I need a other Electrio DP

[cedar flint]

at this point get her twice

[feral reef]

arethere any better weaps for mav?

thanks my v

is her skill counted as skill damage or CA damage? (the donuts)

ok my v

thanks for the info u did provide

[dusty cape]

😔

[feral reef]

someone should teach u

guys should i get the vrota

https://tenor.com/view/the-herta-herta-honkai-star-rail-hsr-gif-10464504004180479887

ok ill get her and agela cuz im built different

[haughty lotus]

Language, Ma’am.

[worthy siren]

Guys how Amber Citlali Bennet Kazuha/Xilonen

[haughty lotus]

‘Tis CA

[strange scarab]

[feral reef]

Thanks vro

[forest venture]

[gaunt kettle]

c1 mailed flower or c1 serpent spine for mavuika

[neon harness]

@strange scarab bbg is the limited banner in Arknights gud?

Holy HECK the nightingale skin is so pretty

[strange scarab]

[strange scarab]

serpent though its probably not even 1% better than mail

[strange scarab]

My friends said they are good but metaslaves dont care about anyone who isnt wisadel

I personally pull for narantuya
and pepe ig because pepe's cute

i also got gavialt

[neon harness]

HOLY heck

[strange scarab]

I spent like 140 pulls i am NOT happy at all

[neon harness]

I got the limited girl but idk if i should keep pulling for the pretty one

[neon harness]

Damn

Wait is the limited one thats good or the standard one, or are they both good

[strange scarab]

before i pulled i had like 66k and 725

[strange scarab]

both narantuya and pepe are good they say

I just have to see for myself

truly sniper and guard impact

got typhon and exu recently now this

[neon harness]

Got her 20 pulls in but idk if i should keep pulling, i am still trying save to 300 pulls again but its hard controlling myself

[neon harness]

Damn i need to catch up on Arknights meta

[urban ivy]

Recommended er for Citlali?

[keen willow]

Pepe

[strange scarab]

i had 300 pulls before and now half of it are gone

How am i supposed to recover from that

that was my sparking funds

[quaint fern]

this was an abyss of all time 💀

[gaunt kettle]

i just cleared abyss with my lvl 50 mavuika...

[quaint fern]

er cryo is probably not good

[forest venture]

er subs time

[fading tusk]

Why wouldn’t it be ?

[unique imp]

Who should I level up next for the imaginum theater and is there a better team I can run for abyss
My 2 teams right now are
Fire Archon -> Citlali -> benny -> 4* electro natlan guy - > for the melt team
Ayato -> Raiden -> Dendro traveler -> Zhongli - for like a hyperbloom and shield

[forest venture]

spiral abyss? you can replace ororon (the electro natlan dude) for sucrose and put the whole team in the first half. then i think you can run ororon on the other half (but for even better fighting chance against 2nd half, you actually need another pyro and a natlan unit to fight the new bosses faster)
for imaginarium theater, focus on characters that are in the "allowed-to-run" elements (pyro-cryo-geo this month and pyro-hydro-anemo next month), and then focus a lot more on pyro units and build your team as many as you can

[unique imp]

I guess I'll focus on pyro first. I have Yan feo but is anyone else better

[opal surge]

Your Yan fei is already high enough level for IT

[cedar birch]

For raiden is favonius lance r5 better then skyward spine r1?

[rugged sparrow]

favorite

but no Skyward Spine should be better

[cedar birch]

Mb auto correct lol

Man can't do anything I'm poor in mora lol

[rugged sparrow]

then farm mora

[cedar birch]

How with no resin

[rugged sparrow]

elite / artifact routes

[lyric cargo]

the sigil reward systems except Natlan's give 50k mora per level
(sakura tree in Inazuma, tree of dreams in Sumeru, the fountain in Fontaine)
so you can kinda farm mora while farming primogems, if you explore and get chests

you can also get a bunch of mora every week from the teapot

I wouldn't recommend using resin on mora or char exp leylines

elite and artifact routes are kinda similar - both give artifacts and mora
except you need teams with good damage + mobility to do elites efficiently. (Mavuika is kinda perfect for it.)

if you have unexplored areas, I'd probably go explore and chest / sigil hunting rather than doing routes

and max out your teapot if you haven't

[full sonnet]

Does that require a talking bird

[lyric cargo]

what do you mean?

[late pebble]

Does anyone know a good clorinde team

[rugged sparrow]

Clorinde/Fischl/dendro/anemo is a safe bet

[late pebble]

What if i replaced Fischl with raiden

And whys dendro always a option with her 😔😔

[rugged sparrow]

the two I specifically listed aren't replaceable

[rugged sparrow]

because aggravate works well with her kit

[late pebble]

Is a unbuilt dendro char good w her

[rugged sparrow]

just needs to apply dendro

Yaoyao/Kirara/Nahida/Baizhu are like good choices

if you have Nahida (which I don't see), you can run quickbloom Clorinde with Clorinde/Fischl/Furina/Nahida

[lyric cargo]

afaik you can also run Chevreuse teams (might require c6 Chevreuse, not sure)

[late pebble]

I genuinely only have ONE 5 star support

Well one i pulled for

[rugged sparrow]

I see three

[lyric cargo]

yeah, get Xilonen and Citlali imo

[rugged sparrow]

arguably 4

[lyric cargo]

you should value off-fielders more, don't pull too many on-fielders (you can only play one per team)

[late pebble]

Xilonen skipped me n im trying atm for citlali im at like 56 pity atm

[crude dirge]

when was last albedo rerun?
not chronicle

[strange scarab]

chronicle

[rugged sparrow]

3.1

or was it 3.2 lemme double-check

it was indeed 3.1

[crude dirge]

br

ong when next rerun 😭

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

he wont rerun outside of chronicled

[crude dirge]

ong?

[lyric cargo]

the chronicled rerun was in 4.5

[lyric cargo]

ong?

[rugged sparrow]

ong

[lyric cargo]

looks pretty bad, no double crit

who wants the 20 def%

[strange scarab]

at least level it up first oh wait

[crude dirge]

thats for noelle/future albedo

[lyric cargo]

doesn't show what set it is
2 dead stats I assume (flat def and atk%)

[crude dirge]

husk

ay just got another

[rugged sparrow]

deadge

farming Husk for Albedo 2025

[lyric cargo]

if it's for a damage dealer, you kinda want double crit
or very many useful substat rolls

[crude dirge]

or noelle

[lyric cargo]

without double crit, I'd say at least 8 useful subs

[crude dirge]

i have decent ON SET geo dmg goblet (its the only one i have also 😭)

[lyric cargo]

if ER is useful here and it gets crit rate at +4
that's 7 useful subs at max

[crude dirge]

er sure useful for noelle

[lyric cargo]

which is ok, if it rolls all into crit

[nimble bison]

will the the current event thats ongoing give us 100 primogems each or will it add up to 420?

like do the next unlocksables in the event give us 100 primos each the next 2?

Or will they make it so it adds up to 420?
cuz so far we got 200 and we have 2 more to go

[rugged sparrow]

probably 20 primos on the "epilogue" or something, they've done it before

[neon wave]

hoyolab says 420

yeah probably that^

[rugged sparrow]

36* whale

[nimble bison]

niceee, im getting desperate

[neon wave]

20 primos desperate?

[rugged sparrow]

[crude dirge]

i will be able to use ONE of these three off-set

[nimble bison]

i need to farm 1990 primogems

well 18 wishes in total to hit soft pity,
I already calculated the daily resets with welkin and how much the event will give

[crude dirge]

i hope i will get circlet any time soon

[nimble bison]

flowers and feathers are the easiest to get on-set so i would use the sands

[crude dirge]

yeah and only 2 on set things i have are feather and that geo dmg goblet

also lvl 20 whiteblind :Fire:

[nimble bison]

goblet is actually the hardest, so u lucky

[crude dirge]

🤑

[nimble bison]

i think i have never been able to use on set goblet so far in my genshin career

[lyric cargo]

I think circlet is harder now, if you have elixirs for goblet

but you can off-piece the circlet

[crude dirge]

i have only 1 elixir

[lyric cargo]

you used them?

[nimble bison]

you use the elixir on goblet because they are the hardest
thats why they cost 4 elixirs and circlets cost 3
And doing it on goblet still benefits u more even its more expensive

[crude dirge]

yeah for mh circlet and pale flame, shim sands

shim sands where shit.

[lyric cargo]

I only used 4 so far, so I have 9 left

[crude dirge]

i think flame thingy can give me one more

for sigils

[nimble bison]

u mean sacrifising sigils? to tona?

u can get like 5 elixirs with the rings

[crude dirge]

got all the rings

[nimble bison]

u collected the chests without the common and exquesites?

[lyric cargo]

for elixirs, it seems like we've been able to get:

• 1 from each tribe vault (currently 5, eventually 6)
• 1 for every 10 levels of pyro sigil rewards (currently 3, eventually 5)
• 1 from anniversary rewards
• 1 from artifacts every patch (currently up to 4)
• 1 from paid battle pass every patch (currently up to 4)

I don't buy battle pass, so it's 13 for me so far. I used 4 on a pyro goblet for Mavuika, 9 remain.

[crude dirge]

yeaah

[nimble bison]

only 4 from battlepass? so i bought the second one available? wow, i thought they added it much earlier

[crude dirge]

i dont have compass so idc

[nimble bison]

i just watch youtube tutorial

[crude dirge]

i think its too late

[nimble bison]

76% is plenty left

[crude dirge]

what 76%

coatepec mountain?

[nimble bison]

ye and ochkanatlan
i think you get like 50% alone from quests any waypoints, like stuff not related to chests

[crude dirge]

ong? prayer for the loving sorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDfRdlM7Axs

[nimble bison]

iirc, when i 100% coatapec, coatapec had like over 130 chests
So yeaa

[crude dirge]

ig i'll just do rep quests

[nimble bison]

arent those weeklies

[crude dirge]

they give like 200 xp per quest

200 xp from 5 minutes long quest

[nimble bison]

oh, i thought u meant the bounties and requests

[crude dirge]

nah i did them in li yue

[nimble bison]

im gonna 100% sea of bygones now, cya, will take me like 2 hours

[lyric cargo]

should be one per game version, with 5.0 being the first?

We're in 5.3 now, so 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3

[crude dirge]

uh.

i dont think i will keep this.

[strange scarab]

is there a missable chest in the night kingdom in 5.3

[normal inlet]

is nilous sig weapon good for furina?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

esp if your team can utilize the EM buff

[halcyon flame]

Need help for floor 12 abyss
Pls help me on the team comps for this abyss
😭😭🙏
(I can also build sucrose and xingqui as they r at lvl 70)

[rugged sparrow]

Arle 1st half + a random cryo unit (for Suanni)
anything with high hitcount + can deal with cryo shield relatively easy for 2nd half (electro onfielder + Fischl is nice)

[lyric cargo]

oh, hyperbloom can brea the cryo shield?
with a 4th char like Fischl I guess?

[rugged sparrow]

should be doable yeah

[lyric cargo]

ah, edited it out I see

[rugged sparrow]

should be more of quickbloom than hyper

[lyric cargo]

ngl, when I saw the enemy lineup I thought it pretty much required pyro

I guess it's not a strong shield like abyss herald / lector / etc

where you pretty much want the element that gets the 2x reaction on the shield

[rugged sparrow]

same, but when I just tested out bunch of teams it becomes evident

[lyric cargo]

it made me consider trying burgeon

[quaint fern]

I also got a feeling that Emilie burnmelt would also be pretty good second half

I couldn't get it to 9 star with burnmelt tho bc there wasn't enough cryo to clear 12-2-1 in time

[lyric cargo]

yeah, burning is good against those papilla type shields
just need a team where it's not cope, like Emilie or Kinich?

and put actual pyro application in the pyro slot, not just Bennett

[quaint fern]

Tbh I have issues getting papilla to pop consistently

Ganyu's burst is too strong but without it, I don't have enough elemental application

[haughty hawk]

morning fine shyts

[opal surge]

Not playing Mav with ganyu?

[quaint fern]

She's so bad for ganyu 🤣

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/soundoriented-robin-i've-played-this-game-before-honkai-vr-gif-3425079940913909944

[quaint fern]

You need to delay CA and even then it's barely enough pyro

[haughty lotus]

👍

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hsr-honkai-star-rail-vr-chat-soundoriented-gif-6767012910116082578

[haughty lotus]

Burst support ganyu ofc :glueless:

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-minion-gif-11890965388534990164

[haughty lotus]

Rule 5

[haughty hawk]

🥺🥺🥺

[haughty lotus]

New dog react just dropped

[opal surge]

I had ganyu Emilie mav Bennet sheeting highest

Fairly significant margin

But lowish ganyu team DMG share

[quaint fern]

Support ganyu D:

Ganyu mains could never

Anyways,
Miss Herta is unrivaled.
Miss Herta is a genius.
Miss Herta is the prettiest in the universe.

[haughty lotus]

Probably some zyonix copypasta

[quaint fern]

This was on my yt feed https://youtu.be/wlgmuwvJ1lA?si=XBiWPARnEHN8VuRt

[haughty hawk]

truther

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-honkai-star-rail-hsr-vrchat-gif-12540073061450315393

[rugged sparrow]

unless double hydro (Yelan + Xq) I dont see how you're breaking Papilla's shield

[opal surge]

She does way more personal damage in that team than in Xilo chiori that's for sure

[inner walrus]

Hi people

what can i put for abiss 12?

[median glade]

https://tenor.com/view/shiroko-blue-archive-dancing-chibi-shiroko-gif-8428774011917980617

[cloud plover]

how do i unlock this domain

hidden palace of guizang formula

there is a ring of pyro elemental monuments surrounding it, but they're all locked

[lyric cargo]

you want cryo first half, for the cat in 12-2-1
Mavuika Citlali Scurose Bennett

second half, something that's good against papilla and can break the cryo shield in 12-1-2

for papilla, frequently hitting elemental damage is good
what did you use for it last abyss?

[inner walrus]

Anything xd

[haughty hawk]

@lyric cargo reference 😮😮😮

[zinc tiger]

I know how to unlock it

[jolly spire]

Mavuika her skill keeps resetting everytime even though she still has pholigogent or whatever it is called

when going up a wall, when flying and water.... #

[cloud plover]

how do you unlock it?

[zinc tiger]

Try that

[lyric cargo]

that's the place? way for OP to take a screenshot that doesn't show the loaction 😅

[zinc tiger]

I am not stupid

And know it

[zinc tiger]

So did that work?

[zinc tiger]

Yup It's right place and It's one of a kind so yea

[lyric cargo]

I wasn't doubting your response, more saying the screenshot OP sent wasn't great

(should always include the map, for starters)

[zinc tiger]

I understand

From the screenshot I knew where it was

[quaint fern]

i swear there should be a hint for that thing somewhere

[dusty cape]

it’s in the glowing bump on the ground

[cloud plover]

yes, thank you so much!!

[zinc tiger]

Okay and you're welcome

[wide dirge]

Could someone please give me the combo for this team 😭

I've tried so many variants, and messed up all of them. Would love a video or something if possible

[ebon hatch]

who is citaliai good for
i have kinich wanderer arlechhino and childe as my main dps someone pls tel me

[quaint fern]

@wide dirge

idk what her new combos are

last I checked it was like 4 loops on bike jump and then 4 more loops

[wide dirge]

All right, what should I look for to see if I did it correctly? Also, thanks

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont own her]

I swear there's a zajeff video about some other combos tho

[opal surge]

arle and mav mostly

[ebon hatch]

doesnt scaramocuhe need a shield tho

[ebon hatch]

yo so arlecchino bvennet xinqiu and citlai good?

[nimble bison]

citlali buffs hydro and pyro
thats like her whole point of the kit

[ebon hatch]

aightt

[nimble bison]

just like shenhe buffs cryo
so you cant use shenhe for geo dps

[ebon hatch]

ok so is the team good

idr like xinqiu though

[nimble bison]

go pull yelan then idk

no nvm

[ebon hatch]

😭

[lyric cargo]

^

[nimble bison]

what constellation is your bennet and xingqiu

[ebon hatch]

uhhh c1 and c2

im f2p gang

[lyric cargo]

Mav combos:
I prefer 3 CA → (let to) final attack → 3CA → (let go) → final attack

[nimble bison]

im not f2p but i just pulled xingqius second constellation in standart banner after 3 years

[ebon hatch]

Lollll, imma try going for furina, even though i just got citaliali

[nimble bison]

u do u

[ebon hatch]

nah cuz like furina is good for kinich wanderer and arlech

[nimble bison]

furina is very flexible and very good herself

[lyric cargo]

good for everyone, really

before Citlali, Arlecchino was mostly the only char whose best team didn't include Furina

[wicked locust]

Navia's best team doesn't include furina now too

[quaint fern]

Wait fr?

What is it? Navia xilo ben

Who is last

I feel like we don't really have any off field natlan characters with good enough application to make a lot of crystalize

[zinc tiger]

Or sumeru to

[quaint fern]

Well I just mentioned natlan bc ideally you give xilo Petra and another natlan character scroll

Which I guess will only buff themselves bc you can't have geo aura

[zinc tiger]

Yea and Navia was first Geo person in a year or more I think

[quaint fern]

So maybe it's not a huge deal

[zinc tiger]

to be added

[quaint fern]

And why is that relevant?

[zinc tiger]

I said Sumeru to

[quaint fern]

What?

What point are you trying to make

You need a non geo character for the last slot

[zinc tiger]

Natlan has no good geo off field and sumeru has no geo

[quaint fern]

Idk why you're bringing up geo

[zinc tiger]

Idk either I miss read sorry

I read it as Geo off field

[quaint fern]

Oh all g

[zinc tiger]

Sumeru and mondstand missing people so yea

[wicked locust]

Now
It's navia xilonen mavuika benny

[quaint fern]

Mauvika

[wicked locust]

50% buff after burst go brrr

[narrow folio]

Midvika

[wicked locust]

Peakuvika

[quaint fern]

That website is shit, use gcsim or stop sending fake numbers

[wicked locust]

There is no data for mavuika+ navia there

[molten lily]

Does xilonen always shred geo?

[dusty cape]

[stiff yacht]

How long do y’all think it will be for a xilonen rerun? I just started playing after a long break but really want her

[rugged sparrow]

[strange scarab]

mav lb is out

It is very harsh

[regal turret]

Hello guys. I'm a returning player and have these characters. I'm not sure about which characters works well with which characters and would like some help with team comp ideas.

[quaint fern]

Mauvika is literally unplayable without another natlan character

I don't know her ororon teams

Probably Bennett ororon mav flex?

Idk

[ripe surge]

whats the proper combo to fill up tenebrous meter with mavuika? ulti, skill, then charge atk or basic atk?

[quaint fern]

I'm pretty sure she doesn't hit fast enough

[rugged sparrow]

just spam NA

and pray it's enough

[quaint fern]

If not she does so much DMG anyways that you can probably kill papilla without the res drop

[keen willow]

Its possible but the ice mage is so cringe

[ripe surge]

the hardest part for me was 2nd chamber

[rugged sparrow]

2nd chamber is Suanni and what

[keen willow]

And 2 of those baby pappila

[ripe surge]

suanni powercreeping my c3 neuv, and even with mav team 2nd half was atrocious (didnt 3 star)

[rugged sparrow]

breh just bring a cryo

then melt/shatter it

[ripe surge]

my team was: 1st half - neuv, furina c1, kazuha, dehya, 2nd half: mav, benny,xilonen,pyro traveller

[rugged sparrow]

what the pyro traveler doing

[ripe surge]

yea, i'll replace it with xiangling see how it goes.

[keen willow]

Triple pyro resonance

I lost 5050 on citlali 😔 this abyss could have been fun

[ripe surge]

i dont have citlali, charlotte with ttds wont do much i think?

[marble fern]

Do i need to rise citlali burst?

[zinc tiger]

Her burst does good damage I think

[ripe surge]

thanks yall i finally 36 moc

[lyric cargo]

she's shreds geo under one of three conditions:

• her skill is active (on-field Xilonen)
• she has 2 phec (pyro/hydro/electro/cryo) teammates and 1 non-phec teammate (geo/anemo/dendro)
• she has c2

[cloud path]

Hey, can someone help me out. My citlali with current equip artifact has 757EM and 122 ER. Do i need to swap with the compared artifact or 122ER is fine? my weapon is TTDS.

[lyric cargo]

if you can't burst, you won't get her off-field cryo app every rotation
I think her ER req is usually like 160% - 180% with 4pc scroll (but depends on the team of course)

[cloud path]

after my first rotation, i need to use my citlali skill and then wait for the particles to come to me to burst ult...like 1-2sec delay.

team is: mavuika w/ obs codex+serpant snipe , xilo w/ scroll + fav sword, bennett with noblesse+alley flash

[lyric cargo]

that'll delay your next burst even further

[lyric cargo]

if you can't get enough ER, you can try running ER sands or sac fragments

losing ttds will likely cost you, though

[cloud path]

i will try using the er sands then.thank you

whats the required EM for citlali @lyric cargo ?

[lyric cargo]

there isn't really a hard cutoff

just as much as possible after you hit the required ER

[cloud path]

is 168ER and 569EM good? switched the sands artifact

[lyric cargo]

sounds better

this is mine:

[cloud path]

want those stats T^T

[lyric cargo]

my asia alt has better artifacts on her, but she's not ascended past 70 so it works out to be around the same at the moment
(her ascension stat is EM)

also, I don't have a good off-piece on asia

[cloud path]

woah

i need to farm domain it seems

[lyric cargo]

yeah, takes months to get good pieces

and luck of course
my main farmed way more than my asia alt, where I logged in far less

[blazing cliff]

Do I still use cinder city for Citlali even if my Xilonen is already using it?

[lyric cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IcAK-LH3N4U

they say having Petra on chars other than Xilonen means you now have to dodge the geo shard on Xilonen instead of picking it up
making it feel far less comfortable

also, having any set other than scroll on Citlali will make her ER reqs much higher

it's unfortunate the team requires using one low QoL set
petra and instructor have low duration, though having it for the burst initial hit is already enough to justify running them

part of me just wanted to run noblesse Bennett, tenacity Citlali, and call it a day
to avoid switching sets on Xilonen when I use her with Neuvilette
but it's not exactly optimal for damage, or ER requirements
Xilonen basically doesn't use the 2pc effect on scroll at all

[opal surge]

im just running scroll on both cit and xilo atp

I dont play mav enough to justify swapping sets around all the time

[neon wave]

wao
fake minmaxxer

[opal surge]

[lyric cargo]

same

[feral reef]

fuck minmaxing jus run everyone on scroll ong

[opal surge]

the dmg difference might actually matter if u want to plat the combat event and u have no cons

[lyric cargo]

I put Xilonen on instructor for a bit

then I used her with Neuv, so had to switch her back

since then, I haven't had strong enough reason to switch her build again

[feral reef]

i will make these characters built 🔥

[opal surge]

but other than that idk

[feral reef]

actually fuck itto

he doesnt deserve it sorry

[feral reef]

what the fuck is that

chasca hate

die

in game

[lyric cargo]

an argument as old as time:
"but Noelle Itto actually has a team besides monogeo now, with Furina Xilonen!"

"yeah, but I need Furina Xilonen on the other side, with her actual best team"

[feral reef]

i choose mavuika over itto

[opal surge]

that seems like an easy choice

[lyric cargo]

yoink

[opal surge]

after all mavuika is far right on the graph and itto is far left

[feral reef]

true!!

but beidou is cool so i build her anyway

[crude dirge]

tighnari is the best of these

[feral reef]

tightnari can wait

oi sigmas pls help what is raiden best teams

[crude dirge]

rational/hypercarry idk

[feral reef]

he really is fucking insane aye

second bennet when pls

[lyric cargo]

I might use him when I get his c6

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1326622876081590304/grafik.png?ex=678c9f95&is=678b4e15&hm=f66f271945507468bd4095deb00f6febf93f690e67d125aecaf5963b6d6da2fd&

at this rate it's not much longer..

[feral reef]

nice change

[lyric cargo]

I remembered he is kinda built, I just wasn't using him

When I get c6, I'll crown his NA and check what WT pieces I have (probably none)

[zinc tiger]

I use my ayato and I fall inlove with his attack move and change attack Idk why

So I got to build him now

[primal latch]

Furina or mavuika for neuvilette c0?

[lyric cargo]

are you asking who to pull or who to use with him?

for this abyss?

Furina is Neuv's best support

Mavuika is good in her own, separate teams

also good in overworld

if you're asking who to pull, I'd say
both, but Mav is likely to rerun this patch. Furina will only run like once a year now

[primal latch]

Who to use, thankss

[lyric cargo]

Neuv's best team would be Furina, Xilonen, Kazuha
Mavuika's: Citlali, Xilonen, Bennett

problem with this abyss is neither half is great for Neuv

the cat boss in 12-2-1 has 70% hydro res and wants you to bring cryo

second half asks you to bring something to break the "papilla" shields and the cryo shield in 12-1-2

Ororon is apparently great second half, he can completely stun the cryo boss

[haughty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-spongebob-nectar-fly-not-funny-picmix-gif-26427614

[haughty lotus]

Thanks

[haughty hawk]

❤️❤️

[forest venture]

👀

[haughty lotus]

👃

[haughty hawk]

👄

[forest venture]

💅

[lyric cargo]

whatever happened to this place

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-vro-gif-15207430103528002530

[haughty lotus]

👋

[pallid leaf]

is this good? (with buffs it is 99.9 cr and 37k hp)

[rugged sparrow]

feather looks sad

sands is kinda unfortunate but wcyd ig

[viscid oyster]

i don't have a furina and i want to find a replacement for her in the meantime.

i am planning to have a neuvi vape using furina mavuika kazuha neuvi but like what i said i have no furina. who can i use in the meantime?

[rugged sparrow]

you're not gonna play Neuv vape with Furina

[opal surge]

mav citlali xilo neuv is technically a sidegrade to classical furina teams

[viscid oyster]

kinda sucks that i don't have citlali and xilo

[keen willow]

When are they announcing the next banners

[opal surge]

theyve been announced 3 weeks ago

[keen willow]

The 4 stars too?

[opal surge]

yeah

[keen willow]

If i risk building pity for chevruse, whats better chloride c1 or arlecchino c2

[rugged sparrow]

the one u use more ig

not sure about the increase between c1 Arle > c2 but c0 > c1 Clorinde is roughly 20%

[opal surge]

clorinde so u dont get baited into taking bennet away from mav when playing arle

[keen willow]

I don't even have mavuika

[rugged sparrow]

I'm heavily biased towards Clor so

[zinc tiger]

I want Clorinde ^^

[keen willow]

I don't wanna farm whimsy for clorinde i guess so arlecchino it is

[rugged sparrow]

I mean

[opal surge]

huh

[rugged sparrow]

4p TF is as good, if not slightly worse

or even better

and then here I am coping with 4p Glad

[zinc tiger]

I can't go open chest at all so I got to pray to get clorinde

[rugged sparrow]

(Whimsy strongbox when)

[keen willow]

Wha

Tf is open chest

[zinc tiger]

Like chest you get if you go around the map

[keen willow]

Ahh

[zinc tiger]

yea

[keen willow]

Why couldn't they just add chevruse to the lantern rite man

[zinc tiger]

She isn't from that nation

[haughty lotus]

They don’t accept fr*nch people

[keen willow]

Its always the fr*nch

[zinc tiger]

You got look at the lantern before

[haughty lotus]

True

[zinc tiger]

So they don't add new 4 stars outside of that nation

[lyric cargo]

hydro barely has any 4-stars as well, so..

[zinc tiger]

Yea

[zinc tiger]

I want a new 5 star pyro sword user, 4 star geo sword/book user and 5 star bow geo bow user and air 4 star polearm and 5 star claymore and hydro claymores and 5 star polearm for hydro and 4 star bow user for hydro and 5 star electrio bow user and 4 star polearm user and 5 star claymore and Dendro need 4 star book user and those are what I want ^^

[sonic turtle]

guys what artifacts should i use for a dps kirara?? im currently using 4pc golden troupe and she does around 35-40k ;-;

[lyric cargo]

scroll of the hero.
I assume off-field dps?

[sonic turtle]

yuuppsss

[zinc tiger]

What artifacts should I use for dp citalia?

[cloud plover]

r1 sacrificial fragments or r5 thrilling tales for sucrose?

[rugged sparrow]

TTDS is generally better

[cloud plover]

really? even better than a 4-star weapon?? i'll keep that in mind then, thanks! and also, is calamity of eshu not a good weapon for chiori? i have her on r5 harbinger of dawn but from what i heard it's not a recommended weapon for her even though she can trigger the special effect with her geo crystallize shields

[rugged sparrow]

rarity kinda means fuckall sometimes
and yes, Calamity is bad on Chiori because the passive is completely useless on her

[cloud plover]

??? the effect triggers when the character is shielded, no?

[rugged sparrow]

yes and?

[cloud plover]

how will it not increase her crit rate and dmg?

it's really useless?

[rugged sparrow]

??

I suggest re-reading

[cloud plover]

yeah that

[rugged sparrow]

it increases her NA/CA dmg
most of her dmg comes from skill, followed by burst
unless you have c6 Chiori and somehow not have her signature

[cloud plover]

icic

[cloud plover]

can i get your advice on one more thing

sorry i have so many questions, but you seem knowledgeable enough

[rugged sparrow]

I mean just ask

[cloud plover]

i have a billet trove rn in my inventory

and i also have chasca

but no natlan bow billet

[rugged sparrow]

you can just convert them if you have dream solvent

[cloud plover]

i have dream solvent, but chasca's on r5 slingshot right now, and since you seem to be against rarity-choosing weapons im debating whether or not i should craft chain breaker

for chasca

[cloud plover]

got it, thanks! where did you get this chart? it's very handy

[rugged sparrow]

pinned msg

[quaint fern]

tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds

[rugged sparrow]

^

[quaint fern]

It's in pins yeah

[cloud plover]

thank you both!!

[quaint fern]

Yeah slingshot is usually fine but bc you build double atk% on chasca you really don't like the super low base atk

[cloud plover]

makes sense

chasca will be getting a new weapon today

[rugged sparrow]

I think it's mostly because Slingshot pushes you to 90.2 cr by default

not exactly the friendliest weapon to build around in this case

same reason why Polar probably ranks lower than Skyward despite being potentially better on paper

[quaint fern]

wait is she CR ascension?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[quaint fern]

okay wait that's probably a factor too

didn't know that ehe

[rugged sparrow]

surely u just run Shime on her with Slingshot

[quaint fern]

I love having 200% atk = 1200 atk

200% atk or one bennett burst

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

seems awkward, so many external atk buffs yet sands and goblet are still best as atk%

Bennett, pyro resonance, ttds

makes me want to run the Bennett + Mavuika variant, and give her a pyro goblet

[rugged sparrow]

her best teams normally don't have pyro reso though?

[lyric cargo]

oh, I was thinking of Ben Mav Citlali

isn't that her best team?

[rugged sparrow]

you replace Chasca with Xilonen and just play Mav DPS

[lyric cargo]

iirc some said she's worse than Sucrose as well

Mav Cit Ben Sucrose?

and Xilonen even better, of course

[rugged sparrow]

wouldn't be surprised if it were the case but atp we're just shoehorning Mav

but yeah minus Mav, Chasca teams dont usually run double pyro

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

you know im right

but idk just replace Mav out for Furina and it becomes actual Chasca team

instead of "lemme put my best DPS on quickswap duty"

not that I'm not guilty for this

[opal surge]

I want you to know that this is technically the best mav offfield team

That I'm aware of at least

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca happens to be the only one who has a venn diagram for Citlali and Bennett

who's also a nightsoul user

[urban ivy]

What part of Citlali kit give extra dmg to melt again?

[opal surge]

None

Well she shreds Pyro Res if you count that

[urban ivy]

Should I upgrade her skill or burst first?

[opal surge]

Skill

[urban ivy]

Ok

[urban ivy]

Reason as to why?

[rugged sparrow]

just stronger shield ig

[opal surge]

It makes her shield bigger

Her burst damage is not really that tied to her burst tllevel

[rugged sparrow]

if u feel like u dont need her shield then u dont need to level anything

[opal surge]

Most of her MV is from her ascension talent

[urban ivy]

Nice

[hearty igloo]

Can you guys tell me who should go in the last slot of this team and also give me a whole other team so that i can clear abyss im am struggling so much
i will build anyone to clear abyss
and rotations would be helpful

[lyric portal]

What can I use for the 12th floor

[nimble bison]

what do i do with this thing

[river parcel]

Virus. Dont click

[violet cipher]

What would do better against the tulpa in the 'on the trail of Behemoths' event?
Arlechino/Bennet/Nahida/Xiangling
Arlechino/Bennet/Citlali/Xiangling?

Or ig Arlechino/Bennet/Citlali/Nahida cause that might be too much pyro

[quaint fern]

probably bennett, but furina + citlali is a bitsus because there are bosses both sides and you cant freeze bosses

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message I have all these characters and Citlali, what team should I create?

[violet cipher]

How does pulling work after you lose 50/50? Do you have to get another 74 wishes to increase chances or would the 5-star be guaranteed in the next 90 (let's say you lose 50/50 in the 76th pull, so would the 5-star be guaranteed in 14 pulls?)

[haughty lotus]

It resets to 90

[violet cipher]

So 74 more pulls to increase chances?

[haughty lotus]

Yeah

[nimble bison]

your next yellow star to appear will be guaranteed to be feautured now

[keen willow]

Gaming xianyun citlali benne

[violet cipher]

Gaming isn’t built, what about Hu Tao?

[keen willow]

With hutao i would like furina instead of citlali, and maybe yelan instead of benne

[keen willow]

You can play the traditional arlecchino team with
Kazuha citlali benne

[brave knot]

Support suggestion for Neuvi without furina pls

[violet cipher]

It’s hydro taulpa, wouldn’t hydro not work against him?
Also wouldn’t using Kazuha swirl hydro and so not do anything?

[brave knot]

My Neuvi has 40:250 cr and 31k hp and only does 18k dmg alone

[keen willow]

I didn't know you wanted a team for hydro tulpa

[rugged sparrow]

what chars do u have

[keen willow]

Idk if citlali activates on hydro tulpa

[brave knot]

Raiden, Nahida, yelan, kazu, Zhong, chiori, kinich, ayato, qiqi and mostly all 4star supports

[rugged sparrow]

Zhong + Kaz + 1 (likely Fischl)
next time just send a screenshoot of your char list

[brave knot]

Fishcl build ?

[rugged sparrow]

https://tinyurl.com/genshinbuilds

[quaint fern]

sounds like you dont have enough HP, a bit high on the crit dmg and too low CR

[violet cipher]

I see

[violet cipher]

Is this Noelle ready to fight Golden WolfLord in Abyss?
*paired with Furina/Yelan/flex

[violet cipher]

flex could be Kazuha/Citlali/Kachina/Xiangling

[narrow folio]

Wolflord isn't in abyss right now

It reset like three days ago

[violet cipher]

I need a Geo unit for when he comes back

*dps

[strange scarab]

you could just get xilonen or zhongli yknow

instead of building noel

[violet cipher]

What if Wolflord returns before either rerun?

Also I don't really have much I need to strongbox for except for some niche min/max stuff.

[strange scarab]

Lmao do you really think he'll come back that often? the last time he was in abyss before this was december 2022

besides i doubt they would ever bring him out again unless theres a geo running during that phase

They do that to make the promoted geo sell obviously

[violet cipher]

It's not a 0% chance he'll come back so might as well prep for it, anyway there might be something like the gravity thing that has a geo shield (I just mean anything with a geo shield) that I may need for next abyss so I should prepare for that moment if I don't have much else to do.

[narrow folio]

You're preparing for something super specific instead of just building characters naturally

Seems like wasted effort

[narrow folio]

Also there's like two bosses with a geo shield

But if you just want an honest review on your Noelle, she's kinda just middle of the road

That goblet is horrendous and every other piece is "fine", save for the circlet which is RV maxxing

[violet cipher]

I've been playing since Eula first released so I feel like I have enough of an inventory to not need to strongbox for anything else. Maybe I could get better GT and EoSF but the characters I use with those sets are really good already, so I might as well move onto the niche options

[lyric cargo]

just get Xilonen, she's the best pull among geo units. doesn't need to be your on-fielder who deals with the skulls.

you likely have a year before wolflord comes back, I assume it mostly comes when Zhongli is on banner (or other geo, at least)

[narrow folio]

I've been playing Eula

I found the issue

Also every domain except for Whimsy and Nighttime are in the strongbox, what "niche" set are you farming for?

[lyric cargo]

I also expect Xilonen to rerun within the next patches, since she released in this region

[narrow folio]

Please don't say Pale Flame

[narrow folio]

Me when Shenhe and Wrio

[jolly junco]

just kill the wolflord before the skulls

no geo needed

people have done this with like c0 raiden hyper, I imagine it's much easier now with newer characters

[narrow folio]

Truuuuue

Apple with the fire advice as always

[jolly junco]

[strange scarab]

True

[violet cipher]

Okay I realize I didn't illustrate my point clearly, I mean I've been building units since Eula released, which means I should have built enough characters to explore more niche options like characters with geo shields.
Ig for ex: I have this Yelan, I could get a better goblet or something for her but there isn't much of a point to waist strongboxable artifacts on a minimal upgrade - so whynot strongbox for Noelle to fill another Niche.
Right now I'm farming artifacts for Chasca (maybe Citlali) because there's literally nothing else worth using my resin on.

[narrow folio]

I guess, Noelle's gotta be one of the less optimal options for said niche you're trying to fill though

Not to say she's bad to build

Well with MH and Furina existing

[violet cipher]

#📌gimshim-help message these (+Citlali) are all the characters I have, I 36* abyss with Mono hydro+Kachina but it was painful, what other options do I have to build?

[violet cipher]

in terms of filling the niche

[narrow folio]

I still don't think this is a niche you need to hyper fixate on, if it's that serious just fix up your Noelle and run the team you were planning

[violet cipher]

It's more that I don't have anything better to do

*to strongbox for

maybe more er for Bennet or Furina but it's getting into min/maxing territory

[narrow folio]

Not really

ER is kinda the basic necessity for both of them

ER issues on Bennett in 2025 is wild

[brave knot]

I have his bis arti tho so 76cr and 250cd

[narrow folio]

Anyways I'm getting off topic, if you have nothing better to do just farm the newest set and then strongbox whatever you "need"

The grind goes on forever

[violet cipher]

It's getting late, but I can show my current builds tomorrow.

[violet cipher]

I believed I "need"ed MH so I may need to ask about what to strongbox

otherwise that's what I've been doing, farming the newest set

[carmine crypt]

has anyone managed to do plat ranking of legatus golem without a geo dps? i dont have one and i cant figure out how to break his shield faster

[strange scarab]

are you whale enough to attempt plat

[carmine crypt]

so far i can plat the other 2

legatus is the one i absolute cant do

and i have no geo dps whatsoever

[strange scarab]

[carmine crypt]

i figured it out

[fast rock]

How do i get that top achievement? I killed that boss so many times, I destroyed all those dendro things evry times still doesn't get the achievement

[wicked locust]

Am I doing something wrong here
I'm only hitting 40k's with this team while other people are hitting like 60k's with a worse build then mine?

Here's the build

[lyric cargo]

use Xilonen before Kazuha
her buff has a longer uptime, Kazuha's VV set lasts only 10s

post build cards for the other team members as well

crown his normal attack, level skill and burst to like 6 - 8

[wicked locust]

Xilonen's skill is now lvl 9

And mavuika is just there for 50% buff after ult
On dps set so no other buff

[lyric cargo]

crown Xilonen skill, it gives res shred

[lyric cargo]

that's good, if she was on scroll it just wouldn't stack

ideally you'd have Furina for Neuv

[wicked locust]

Ya

[lyric cargo]

but Mav is ok, if you don't have her or if you want more frontload I guess

[wicked locust]

But man I expected something more
Like my frien is hitting 60ks with her same build

[lyric cargo]

they're on c0 with prototype amber as well?

[wicked locust]

Yep

[lyric cargo]

I think 40k is kinda what you'd expect, I was getting 60ks with Furina + Neuv NA crowned + Xilonen skill crowned

[wicked locust]

Ohhh

Maybe my expectations were too high I think

[lyric cargo]

but if they're using the same team and their NA talent isn't crowned either, and their Xilonen skill isn't crowned..
then I'm not sure

[wicked locust]

Hm
Ig I just had too high expectations

[wicked locust]

How much buff is furina here instead of mavuika btw
Mavuika gives 50% buff and furina gives like 75% right?

[zinc tiger]

What is Kamisato ayato team?

[lyric cargo]

I don't actually know what average buff to assume for Furina
maybe @opal surge can chime in

Mavuika is a decaying buff, and I think it's 40% unless she's c4?

[wicked locust]

Oh so it's 40%

[carmine crypt]

why not make neuv and mavu into their dedicated teams? imo putting 2 very capable dps into the same team is a bit of a waste

[strange scarab]

c0 furi is 75 common dmg bonus

[lyric cargo]

but the other way Furina helps won't appear in your Neuvilette Numbers
it's her personal damage and the way she lowers Neuv's ER requirements by being a second hydro

[wicked locust]

Ohh

[strange scarab]

or you know
give xilo petra
and scroll to mav

[wicked locust]

Though I think my ass has enough er already
Might as well R5 pamber later

[lyric cargo]

I think it's nice that she can slot in when abyss isn't favourable for her
but yeah, I think they're good to have on separate teams

[wicked locust]

Burst every skill aah build

[wicked locust]

That's cause I'm lacking a good cryo for now

[opal surge]

in what team

[wicked locust]

So I'm just using her as sub dps buffer everywhere
With navia, nuevelett

[opal surge]

furina basically never buffs for 75%

unless you have cons

its like 175 avg fanfare max

[wicked locust]

Ohh

[opal surge]

its ~40% avg

in mav furina xilo bennet

[wicked locust]

Jean can max her fanfare instantly right?

[opal surge]

not really no

[strange scarab]

for neuv

[opal surge]

even for neuv 300 avg fanfare is disingenuous

300avg just doesnt happen

[wicked locust]

Ic
Someone fed me misinfo

[carmine crypt]

bit of an unhinged thought but benny can go with mavu

[wicked locust]

I don't think benny is cryo

[carmine crypt]

you are right, he isnt. but do you have to force melt tho

[wicked locust]

I don't have fruina either though
So I can't even vape

[carmine crypt]

do you have venti/kazu?

nvm you have kazu

do you have venti?

[wicked locust]

Nope

Though
I can mavuika kazuha xilonen benny

[strange scarab]

Rosaria

[wicked locust]

Nahh
I'm waiting for her

[opal surge]

you can play yelan

[wicked locust]

I have c4 diona and c2 kaeya

[wicked locust]

No yelan too 😔

[opal surge]

you can play xq xd

[opal surge]

or you can do mav xilo kaeya bennet

[carmine crypt]

but ideally mavu doesnt use NA tho

[opal surge]

you can do CA an still proc xq

CA2d

[wicked locust]

Wait really?

Wots ca2d

[opal surge]

CA2 ticks into dash into CA2 ticks again repeat

the dash counts as a NA and procs XQ/Yelan

[carmine crypt]

you mean her motorcycle ca? or

[opal surge]

its competetive to furina teams with yelan

with xq less so, cooldowns dont align and xq is kinda awkward to begin with

[wicked locust]

U mean
I should normal attack once and then charge attack one and repeat?

[opal surge]

no you charged attack and dash in the middle of it

and continue charged attacking

mavuikas dash is a normal attack

[wicked locust]

Ohhhh

[opal surge]

is pulling citlali not an option?

[wicked locust]

Man
I have like no pulls now

[carmine crypt]

rip

[wicked locust]

Btw what should be the rotation here?
Mavuika xilonen xq benny team?

[opal surge]

I think you should play kaeya instead of xq

XQ has an exceptional long cooldown but if you wanted to do vape with xq its

[wicked locust]

I'm kinda short on resource
So it's either kaeya or rosaria I can build

Kaeya is c2

[opal surge]

Mavuika e > xilo en2 > xq eq > bennet eq > mavuika Q and 4 or 5x CA2D

[carmine crypt]

can you explore to at least get some primo for even a chance of citlali

[wicked locust]

Nah man
Im tired of farming now
I'm like 30 pity rn 50-50 but I really can't

[wicked locust]

@opal surge

[carmine crypt]

and i guess you did what you could in abyss/imaginarium?

[opal surge]

let me double check

[wicked locust]

Ya

I'll get her on her rerun If she doesn't get locked in the cryo prison
But rn,nahh

[carmine crypt]

i mean new characters get reruns pretty early tho

[wicked locust]

Like wrio

And xianyun

[opal surge]

kaeya is prolly better

[wicked locust]

Wait really??

[carmine crypt]

damn i forgot about him

[strange scarab]

[honest heart]

ok guys i can do it all now i need a plan for the dam lion

i have premium team

[carmine crypt]

sorry remind me what's in 12-2 again?

[honest heart]

my run was arle yelan rosaria kazuha
mav benney citalai xilonen

[honest heart]

its the new liyue lion boss with 3 of its TANKY lakys and 2nd half is 2 abyss convertables

[strange scarab]

swap the team and use hb for the onion

[carmine crypt]

oh yeah, you can freeze the lion pretty early on

[honest heart]

how

how early?

[carmine crypt]

when it has that aura around it

[honest heart]

ahh that yea but arle damaged went down

[carmine crypt]

like you get a prompt for it

[honest heart]

idk why

[carmine crypt]

you should be able to stun lock it after you freeze it tho

[honest heart]

yea

[lyric cargo]

Yelan or Xingqiu can work with Mavuika, actually

it turns out every time you start a new charge attack, it procs their off-field damage

so you do 2 charge attack hits, then a dash, and repeat

[carmine crypt]

worst case scenario give benny to arle

mavu xilo and citlali can handle themselves as is

[honest heart]

i also got furina and a lot other charecters left

[wicked locust]

Im gonna try this as soon as I reach home now

[honest heart]

true

[carmine crypt]

if the lion gives you the most trouble just jack up arle's side imo

[honest heart]

true its the most problem

after the onions sheild dies i can one tap (almost)with mav ult

[carmine crypt]

and 4th slot for mavu is flex

also give zl to arle so you can basically ignore mechanics

if you have zl

if not layla will do as well

since she can freeze

[honest heart]

i will use furina insted of yelan cus even tho i have yelans sig my furina still deals way more dmg + plus shes c1

[honest heart]

ahh yea i do have him

[carmine crypt]

yeah but remember arle wont be getting any heals

yeah so do arle benny kazu and zl

[honest heart]

i never did have ehals

[carmine crypt]

2nd half just roflstomp

[wicked locust]

Arle + furina

[honest heart]

i never had heals

[carmine crypt]

no i mean

furina drains her hp

and it might make the situation more spicy than you might want

[honest heart]

none of my charecters (other than arle) got below 70% so im good

i can clutch

ofc if it doenst work then some shit i gotta do

[carmine crypt]

just bring zl coz wtf is a mechanic anyway

[honest heart]

true but

one problem

he has 41k hp only

and level 80

[wicked locust]

41k is fine no?

[carmine crypt]

i think that's about as much as mine if not slightly more?

[honest heart]

max talent tho right

[carmine crypt]

lol no

[wicked locust]

U get like 23k shield or something at 41k hp I think

[carmine crypt]

i cheaped out on him

[honest heart]

ic

yolo

[carmine crypt]

as long as hes running triple hp i never had shield issue with him

[honest heart]

wait should i do hu tao plunge?

[carmine crypt]

nah

[honest heart]

ohh wait NA dmg bonus

[wicked locust]

Dehya?

[carmine crypt]

you are alr overengineering it

[honest heart]

yes

[wicked locust]

Why?

[honest heart]

i mean i barly used bennet for 12-2-2

[carmine crypt]

why not use benny

[honest heart]

ohh yea

[wicked locust]

Or kazuha

[carmine crypt]

free dps right there

[honest heart]

im not using him

[wicked locust]

Can use kazuha

[carmine crypt]

like you dont need furina there

rosaria for freeze is enough

swap her for benny any day

[honest heart]

fk

i did way worse

kazuha helped me a lot

gg

FINALY

AFTER LIKE 6 ABYSS RESETS I 36 STARED AGAIN

[carmine crypt]

now go plat the current event

[honest heart]

what event?

the boss raid?

[lyric cargo]

14 more hours until I try it

(I always wait until I can do it all in one go)

[honest heart]

i got gold 2 stars on first and 3rd

got gold 1 star on 2nd

i keep missing it by like 2~5 seconds

4th i doubt i can get gold 2 star

hmm maybe if cloriden hybler bloome

also should i build my C6 Kujo sara (i ahve raiden and cloridne)

@lyric cargo^^^^^^

[carmine crypt]

raiden kinda fell off tho, mavuika can hit similar numbers with decent gear

[opal surge]

thats an odd statement

mavuika teams do double the damage of raiden teams

similar numbers doesnt describe it very well

[honest heart]

bro

[rugged sparrow]

Mavuika teams do more dmg than any DPS in existence

[carmine crypt]

i am being conservative

[lyric cargo]

I think Sara is usually a sidegrade to other options even in raiden teams
she can be alright at c6 though

[honest heart]

my raiden dmg never grew above 100k

[rugged sparrow]

it's not even a competition if u put any DPS next to Mav

[opal surge]

Arle mains pretending its Arle vs HuTao again

[carmine crypt]

i mean yeah, casual 1M in abyss

[opal surge]

when in reality mav is 25k ahead

[rugged sparrow]

that bad huh

[honest heart]

guys guys

my friend telling me genshin and all hoyo games banned in us and showed me this image so
FAKE or TRUE?

[carmine crypt]

to be fair tho, i stopped using my raiden team after i got arle

[opal surge]

its obviously fake

[honest heart]

ik i did my reserch but just double checking'

[carmine crypt]

the font look off

[honest heart]

ok so whome should i like level up or build

i will get fiscl to 80

other than her?

[carmine crypt]

layla

xl

xq

kuki maybe

[honest heart]

xq is alredy build

built*

xl is also built but level and other stuff low