📌gimshim-help

[rugged sparrow]

the thing

[rancid cypress]

u have to break both

[bright cape]

oh it's that bird. i see
furina counters that very well

[opaque niche]

I love brute forcing abyss

[bright cape]

i am the same

[opaque niche]

Forgot mechanics

Just overwhelm

[bright cape]

after clearing, i do like going with weaker team though

[rancid cypress]

ngl doe that c6 lineup pretty respectable

[opaque niche]

Dehya makes everything fun

Punch punch punch

[rugged sparrow]

what's a non-respectable c6

[opaque niche]

Tighnari

Still crap

[rancid cypress]

albedo

[rugged sparrow]

REAL

[opaque niche]

Albedo to

[rancid cypress]

zhong

[rugged sparrow]

calling c6 Tighnari crap is some shitter level take

[opaque niche]

I have c6

Still useless

[rugged sparrow]

you also c6 Raiden and plan to c6 Kokomi, I think you don't have an ounce what "useless" means

[opaque niche]

Useless to u

Not for me

[rancid cypress]

ok tbf if i were to like heavy judge with meta in terms of c6 then almost everyone before fontaine goes to crap

and im not that kind of metaslave

[opaque niche]

C6 r5 eula is broken

[rugged sparrow]

and now everyone pre-Natlan (except Kinich which is fairly mild)

[rancid cypress]

song of broken pines

[opaque niche]

5m burst not effort

[rugged sparrow]

[rancid cypress]

kinich is fontaine level at least

[bright cape]

where?

[rancid cypress]

i saw the ew

[rugged sparrow]

yeh but Mua and Chasca are just different dimension

[bright cape]

no. it was pretyped 😭

i dunno how

[rancid cypress]

scroll up tho they mentioned some of em

[bright cape]

oh i see.

[rugged sparrow]

and then there's c2 Xilo xdd

[rancid cypress]

even xilonen is like HEEHEEH

[opal surge]

R1 powercreep is also adding to it xd

[rugged sparrow]

heckin' love PPS

[rancid cypress]

real

[bright cape]

PPS?

[rugged sparrow]

and ASTRAL VULTURE'S CRIMSON PLUMAGE

🗣️

[rancid cypress]

this is

so peak

[opal surge]

Mfw when ganyu got two new bis bows before rerunning

I'm shocked that AVCP is so unrestrictedly though lowkey

[rancid cypress]

back in the day scara c6 used to be considered a good c6

actual horror story right here

[opal surge]

It would've been more in style to have CA and burst % locked behind swirl and atk given for free

[rugged sparrow]

fr

[rancid cypress]

least edgy rpg weapon name

[rugged sparrow]

not sure if there's anything that rolls off the tongue better than that

even abbreviated it's still ay vee cee pee

[rancid cypress]

dull blade

[bright cape]

oh it's a weapon

[rugged sparrow]

Chasca's signature ye

[bright cape]

PPS is xilo's

[rugged sparrow]

mhm

[rancid cypress]

ye

[opaque niche]

Traveler's handy sword

[rancid cypress]

pee patrol

[opaque niche]

So much edge

[rancid cypress]

halberd

[opaque niche]

Don't forget Arles bis

White tassel

[rancid cypress]

otherworldly story

[bright cape]

i don't think my alhaitham improved that much.
any suggestions?

[opaque niche]

Keep farming

I wish you luck

[bright cape]

what is the best to replace?

[opaque niche]

Circlet

Keep farming cd Circlet with atleast 10-14% cr

[rugged sparrow]

[opal surge]

[dusty cape]

[opaque niche]

I don't understand the emojis

[rugged sparrow]

ngl most of the pieces are kinda ehh, I'd re-farm the whole thing

[bright cape]

my old sands would be a bit better if i get a bit more crit somewhere

[bright cape]

nooo. 😭

how about old sands?

[rancid cypress]

its just overall improvement case than one piece

[rugged sparrow]

my standard's pretty high so

if you're satisfied with what you have rn you can just stick with it, not like it can't clear abyss

[rancid cypress]

if you have other 2p em set that has cracked subs you can just run 2p2p since the difference isnt too big with 4gilded afaik

[rugged sparrow]

then again u won't catch me having haitham on my acc xdd

[opaque niche]

Farming artifacts is fun

[dusty cape]

if your a masochist

[opaque niche]

I am

[rancid cypress]

altho the big thing is

like half of alhaitham teams dmg is hb
or more than half idk the exact but yea

[bright cape]

i was so happy with my sands though. it all rolled to crit

[opaque niche]

I been farming kokomi pieces for 2 years

[bright cape]

except may be first one

[opal surge]

It's more like 35% tbf

[opaque niche]

Even tho I don't have her

But I will c6

[opal surge]

It's closer to half with xingqiu but like

[rancid cypress]

is this with furi

[opal surge]

I hate xingqiu

[bright cape]

why?

[rancid cypress]

makes sense for furi

[rugged sparrow]

do you hate Xingqiu in specific or Xingqiu for quickbloom

[bright cape]

he is the best and is shared across two of my teams

i don't like running alhaitham without xingqiu.

[rancid cypress]

what

[rugged sparrow]

...?

[opal surge]

I hate xingqiu in general but he feels especially bad in quickbloom yeah

[opaque niche]

I never use him

[rugged sparrow]

based

[bright cape]

sorry. i meant to say alhaitham

[opaque niche]

Yelan is better for me

[bright cape]

he gets tossed around a lot

[rancid cypress]

ok almost made me go

[bright cape]

xingqiu helps

[opaque niche]

Xingxiu can get u frozen

[bright cape]

oh right

[rancid cypress]

is it even qb with xingqiu anymore

[bright cape]

i haven't used yelan. but i heard she has energy issues

[opaque niche]

Sorta

[rancid cypress]

altho if i were to run alhaitham id prob just xq just so i dont skill issue and get ragdolled

[bright cape]

n i don't wanna fam eosf 😭

[rancid cypress]

c0r1ing haitham on rerun ig

[bright cape]

he was my first limited. he helped me a lot

[rugged sparrow]

it's just hbloom disguised as quicken xdd

[rancid cypress]

its like

qyperbloom

[bright cape]

is quickbloom damage better than hyperbloom?

[opaque niche]

My yelan just a battery

[rugged sparrow]

quicken in general gets better scaling with more investment

(read: constellations and co.)

[bright cape]

i see.

[rugged sparrow]

but you slot in Furina anyway so you have hyperbloom regardless xdd

[bright cape]

furina is rough with alhaitham

[rancid cypress]

54.5

[bright cape]

not only he lose interruption, he also loses hp

[opaque niche]

I don't build her

Lol

[rancid cypress]

imagine pulling alh cons tho

[bright cape]

may be u can go crit rate circlet

it will get a lot more balanced

[rugged sparrow]

Alhaitham is just Xiao v2.0 lowkey

just get FuriNahida const bro

[rancid cypress]

so real

[rancid cypress]

i also kinda wanna play itto so im gonna c1r1

[bright cape]

i was also too stupid. i kept on pulling on alhaitham's banner to get c4 xiangling after getting him c0

had i pulled on another banner, i would have got favorite anemo boy

[rancid cypress]

[rugged sparrow]

why stop at c1

he deserves c6 cuz he's a cutie

[rancid cypress]

cus c1 is ungabunga

[rugged sparrow]

counterargument c6 also more unga

[rancid cypress]

thats true

but i dont have that much interest on him

[rugged sparrow]

[rancid cypress]

to the point of c6ing

[bright cape]

how do u like navia?

[rugged sparrow]

in what sense

[rancid cypress]

shes c0r1

[bright cape]

she is slightly less unga bunga

but geo

[rancid cypress]

i sometimes use her when i feel like it and shes alright

[bright cape]

i was surprised how well her plunge works

[rugged sparrow]

claymore™️

[bright cape]

i was watching a streamer and her plunge melted that local legend

[rancid cypress]

also prob wont ever pull cons on navia

[bright cape]

i find her en voicelines a bit annoying

[rancid cypress]

be me never use en

[bright cape]

there should be option to mute

[rancid cypress]

i swap around every dub but en

well most of the time its jp but yea

[rancid cypress]

worse kinich

I SAID IT

[rugged sparrow]

REAL

but look

[bright cape]

is kinnich that good?

[rugged sparrow]

Navia is cuter and prettier

[rugged sparrow]

Natlan constellations are just

[bright cape]

oh i see.

i still haven't farmed her set

may be she will get busted when i do

rn. she barely clears.
will use her as neuvillette support tomorrow

[rancid cypress]

its just they have similar kit but kinich works a lil bit better overall

[rugged sparrow]

aren't they similar DPS range at c0

idr

[rancid cypress]

kinich has better practical imo

unless youre a mobile player then hes unplayable

[rugged sparrow]

ehhh idk I tried playing Kinich on his trial and xdd

rather Navia that's just E kaboom

skill issue on my part likely

[bright cape]

i had to use him for that one event. it was horrible.

very unintuitive rotating

[rancid cypress]

navia e range is too smol for comfort and also when smth goes wrong and you hold e and see like 3 charges u feel sad

[rugged sparrow]

got the smol bullets

[bright cape]

yah. that's issue

i am never building navia now

u guys have convinced me

[rancid cypress]

i have her on 2p2p c0r1

[bright cape]

same but c0r0

[rugged sparrow]

im on r2 cuz Key incident xdd

[rancid cypress]

93/200 somehow but ig its 2p2p

[bright cape]

why key?

[rugged sparrow]

4.8

Verdict was with Key

[dusty cape]

key of nilou

[rancid cypress]

khaj of khaj khaj

[bright cape]

lol. i am on oppsite train.
i was pulling for her and lost to key

now furina uses key.

[rancid cypress]

how much diff is atk gob vs geo

well ig its 4gt but

[rugged sparrow]

forgot exact numbers but with my setup atk% is better

Xilo Yelan Furi xdd

she's like 300% dmg on E

[rancid cypress]

understandable

[bright cape]

i see. similar to neuvi case

[rugged sparrow]

pretty much

[rancid cypress]

also tbh i might be biased but

navia cons is like

pretty low side when it comes to post fontaine cons

its still good cus cant go wrong with most fontaine but still

[rugged sparrow]

ngl I only remember Wrio's consts out of all Fontaine chars so xdd

[bright cape]

i only remember neuvi cons

[rancid cypress]

its just crit on e on like everything

[quaint fern]

No way you ALSO had key incident

[rugged sparrow]

yeah her c2 is 36% cr right

on E

[rancid cypress]

yea and c6 is cd on e

[rugged sparrow]

then c6 refunds

[rancid cypress]

its funni how she slowly loses her optimal field time the more cons she gets

loses more reason to onfield so you just swap in ee swap out

[quaint fern]

So c6 makes navia more of a burst DPS?

[rugged sparrow]

... I mean

[rancid cypress]

kinda

[rugged sparrow]

she always has that burst/frontload

[quaint fern]

Like more quick-swappy?

[rancid cypress]

its not rly a bad thing but i can see some like navia simp wanting to main her and her only being a lil disappointed

and also navia already feels complete at c0 so cons doesnt look that appealing idk

[bright cape]

i just realized how bad she feels to play rn

with chasca and kinnich having superior guns

[rancid cypress]

the only actual bad fontaine c6 are like sige and emilie

[bright cape]

i have seen cracked c6 sigewinne

they clear faster than neuvillette

[rugged sparrow]

faster than c0 Neuv yes

xdd

[rancid cypress]

being burstlocked with e having poopy cd and energy rly doesnt help

its like the c6 effect itself is good but the char is sige

[violet cipher]

I'm short on mora so I was going to do gold ley-lines for talent upgrades, but should I spend a little more time farming for artifacts for these guys?

[violet cipher]

another important fact is I can probably replace the feather soon if I'm lucky

[mild pivot]

Is it still safe to go C6 Neuvillette today? or just go get C0 Natlan characters? I kinda regretted not rolling for Chasca.

[rancid cypress]

you dont actively need c6 neuv to do stuff in this game

or c6 anyone

[violet cipher]

nvm

double nvm, I just got one with 18% CD.

[mild pivot]

I just wanna vertical invest

I'm too lazy to build new characters

[rancid cypress]

maybe better to stop at c1 neuv and wait for future chars or other good ones than dumping everything for c6

well not maybe but definitely
even in context of vertical invest + no c6 spam someone like c2 xilo is higher priority

[terse remnant]

Does anyone know how to get that bird in chamber 2 down

[violet cipher]

bow

you hit the glowing bits on the wings

[terse remnant]

Yeah problem is that mf keeps rapid spamming crystal shards at me

Which cancels my bow

[rancid cypress]

is this new abyss

the pyro dinosaur

[terse remnant]

Yeah the pyro one

[rancid cypress]

first solution is furina

additionally break the 2 things it leaves behind after it does its ranged attack, that will make it not fly back up for the next wave of attack so you can hit it better

[terse remnant]

I dont have furina

Im using international

[terse remnant]

I do break those 2 things

But nothing seems to happen

[rancid cypress]

no matter if you break or not itll dive down to one of the things location

if its broken then where it was before broken

after that if you didnt break both in time it flies back up again

if you did then it stays in relatively low ground but still might not be enough for melee range ig

[terse remnant]

Oh i get it now

I broke it earlier

Didnt read your text sorry

[tough sluice]

Oh ye furina destroys that guy my problem is with the papilla

I just can't beat it

[rancid cypress]

papilla shield requires 72 elemental hits in ~15 seconds of that attack
there are ways to not get oneshot by that attack without breaking the shield but you do need a way to get around its res since it has very high res that only gets down with breaking the shield

[tough sluice]

I can't do the 72 attacks

I use a hyperbloom nahida yelan xq kuki (don't grill me that's the best I can do)

The shield just won't break

And even when I got xilo it still wouldn't break

[rancid cypress]

nightsoul hits counts as 3 hits so natlan are in a better spot
if not then your best bet is hb or burning team

[tough sluice]

I use hyperbloom and it still won't break

Should I like change something on the team

Or am I just a skill issue

[rancid cypress]

if youre missing some burst you can restart with everyone already having full burst in that chamber

[tough sluice]

Ye ig I should just save my bursts

[rancid cypress]

xq yelan kuki burst all combined with hb procs should hit 72 im guessing

[tough sluice]

Ye exactly and nahida na will help a bit too

I'll try and do it again thanks

[rancid cypress]

gl

[mild pivot]

Did they inflate the HP of the current floor 12?

[rancid cypress]

think its the same multiplier as last one but not 100% sure

[strange scarab]

its currently the highest total hp count in the game

[rigid bobcat]

IS THIS SHIT AUTISTIC?

[dusty cape]

[rigid bobcat]

]the disgusting creature that coded this "boss" needs to get his hands ripped so that he never writes a single line of code

[haughty lotus]

[rancid cypress]

this abyss is well

i can see ppl are not happy about it in general

[elder bluff]

they see people ignore pneumousia and take it into their own hands to forge a racist beast

[quaint fern]

whoever coded this boss should be moved to honkai star rail team

[rancid cypress]

im kinda glad they finally added a boss thats not just big punching bag that has telegraphed attack that you never get hit with

[surreal bison]

Sup just got zhongli 5 star weapon instead neuvillete one is it really worth it to try to get it? I’m using him with withsid r4

[haughty lotus]

Now that you have the fate point yeah. In the future you shouldn’t be pulling if the other weapon is bad like zhongli’s

[surreal bison]

Just in any case to replace weapon banner I can just use the bp ones no?

[haughty lotus]

Sacrificial jade is good for him, just a bit harder to build around tho

[limber light]

Which feather for him?

[terse remnant]

Obviously the left

The right one is near useless for zhongli with ToM

The stats are only good for nukeli but youd rather be using emblem in that case

[timber spire]

What's a suitable 4 star weapon for xiangling other than the catch

[elder bluff]

dbane

[lyric cargo]

geez, you can tell there was an abyss reset
490 new messages

[opal surge]

[wet plank]

When hoyo finally adds a boss where you can't unga bunga ignore mechanics

Where, abyss ig since this one does have a bunch of those

[crude dirge]

which will be good 4 lisa

[opal surge]

ttds

[crude dirge]

as main dps

am so freaky i make everyone as main dps

i think i'll go with lptsw

[jolly junco]

that's exactly what I did idk what you mean bro

[wet plank]

Whel

[jolly junco]

spam random shit then kill it in a few mualani chomps

ezclap

[rare iron]

wheeel talk

[opal surge]

it was a yoimiya abyss 😌

[jolly junco]

yoimiya?

more like chasca

breaks the void barrier faster and just does more damage

[gaunt kettle]

is sac jade or proto amber better for neuvilette

[jolly junco]

sac jade

[opal surge]

I did yoi top chasca bottom half 😌

[crude dirge]

bro why do i get AMAZING cinder pieces from abyss boxes

like flower with cr, cd, er, def%

I DONT HAVE XILONEN

[lyric cargo]

it's a sign that you should get her

why do I keep seeing kuki fischl in abyss run videos like this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N8VqFFjpJ6I

I thought separating Arle from Bennett was

[bright cape]

i dunno what i am doing wrong. but the papilla's explosion after filling the meter is oneshotting my fischl

[elder bluff]

you can't break the shield is wrong

[lyric cargo]

it's possible you just have to know when it happens and i-frame it with an elemental burst

[elder bluff]

there is no point to iframe. the beast will have enormous res if you can't break its shield

[bright cape]

damn. what a stupid boss. had to iframe with alhaitham's burst

[opal surge]

i dont think theyre trying to do optimal dps

judging by the fact that they are doing a full rotation to kill the vishaps

[bright cape]

btw. alhaitham feels great. he also does many small attacks

[lyric cargo]

I was thinking maybe it's better against the shield

but they used that team before, so idk

[bright cape]

is it possible to kill wolf lord before he gets his shield?

[opal surge]

yeah

[crude dirge]

wait isnt he gets shield once 50% hp or the running anim has to end

[jolly junco]

he doesn't shield at 50% hp

it's possible to kill him before that phase

[dark shadow]

Hp or hydro dmg goblet for candace?

[crude dirge]

i think hydro

[serene flax]

team comp for new abyss floor 12? I’m running Arle Zhongli Xilonen Yelan first half, who should I run 2nd half?

[opal surge]

any good single target team with high hitcounts

[serene flax]

roster btw

[opal surge]

alhaitham/hyperbloom/kinich/chasca etc

[serene flax]

I ran Alhaitham but he struggled with the Aeon blight drake on the last floor

[dark mason]

hi the fuck is the new abyss

[opal surge]

just run alhaitham yelan/furina nahida + 1

[serene flax]

Unless I swap Yelan for Xingqiu on my Arle team to Alhaitham?

[opal surge]

you can also play alhaitham fischl nahdia kuki and play spread

[serene flax]

Will try Alhaitham spread then. I kinda want my Yelan on my Arle team for that fcking pyro dragon

[dark mason]

hear me out right i think the atkcounter shield thing is the most dumbass mechanic to ever fucking exist

[opal surge]

How will atk shield haters react when they realize mimifloras have a bigger shield than the papila boss does

other than hope that they will never enter abyss

[neon wave]

it's pretty annoying
I haven't tried abyss yet but between papilla requiring a lot of hits and cocijo requiring a few I'm already tired just let me do damage

[dark mason]

they will because thats what the devs are

[neon wave]

if they ever put turtle in abyss I'm going to throw

[opal surge]

xdd

[dark mason]

thats when the game dies

[opal surge]

do you have ptsd from the combat event by any chance rei

[neon wave]

I gave up

[opal surge]

the turtle is pretty rough ye

[serene flax]

this worked ty

[bright cape]

papilla boss sometimes explode. sometimes doesn't

i dunno how to disable him easily

[lyric cargo]

afaik it explodes if you don't clear the shield in time

[bright cape]

in how much time?

[lyric cargo]

not sure

[opal surge]

15s 72 hits

[bright cape]

oh thanks.

[lyric cargo]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Tenebrous_Papilla

After 40 seconds have passed or upon reaching 70% of its Max HP (or immediately upon entering combat in the Spiral Abyss), returns to the center of the arena and gains a Void Ward which grants it immunity to all DMG. The Void Ward has a durability of 53 (72 in the Spiral Abyss), which will reduce by 1 when hit by an Elemental attack, or 3 when hit by a Nightsoul-aligned attack.

While the Void Ward is active, enters a charging state for 13 seconds where it continuously spawns spikes around the arena, each dealing 10% ATK as Physical DMG and inflicting 10 stacks of Attrition on hit. If charging successfully completes, produces a massive explosion across the arena, dealing 300% ATK as Physical DMG and inflicting 60 stacks of Attrition on hit.

Destroying the Void Ward will interrupt the charging process and paralyze it for a period of time. All RES is reduced by 70% while paralyzed, and even after recovering from paralysis, its RES will only recover by half the amount lost.

not sure if the 13s is accurate for abyss, since Sensi said 15

could be it takes 2s to spawn 🤷

[opal surge]

might be 13 too i guess

I was a bit lazy when counting the time I wont lie

[bright cape]

thanks guys. i tried it again and it was really easy

i was being afraid the first time and running away before the meter was full

[rancid cypress]

cocijo my beloved

[bright cape]

cocijo is huge counter to my account

i have no big number damage dealers

[wet plank]

Tbf for abyss you can just break the shield and dps it down again

Event had higher stat multi for mob so they hurt a lot more than they should

[mild pivot]

Hi Guys, how to get the missing 3?

[forest venture]

surely they can be collectible in the future

[strange scarab]

Not possible at the moment

[keen willow]

Very lame second chamber

[quaint fern]

wait stream should be this week right?

gotta manifest ganyu rerun LOL

[bright cape]

is there a way to do quacasaur boss without furina?

[elder bluff]

any hydro catalyst can do. just wait until it goes down

[keen willow]

If its the flying guy you can easily do it with yelan

[molten junco]

what artifact set is best for Ayaka?

[serene flax]

4 bliz for freeze

[elder bluff]

the one inside dragonspine

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

that's one way. i guess. i heard xingqiu and yelan works. so it's fine

but man the options are getting limited

[rancid cypress]

we playing duck hunter with this one

[quaint fern]

okay wtf

I wish I had that recorded but I just had kokomi knockdown the drake

[unkempt river]

How do you dodge the tenebrous's big nuke? Just I-frame it?

[mild pivot]

Hi Guys does Furina C6R1 needs ER Sands?

I'm using Golden Troupe on her

[strong steppe]

c6 shouldnt because of her c4 im pretty sure

[unkempt river]

Nope

[opal surge]

you can iframe it with bursts, or you can try to break the bar

its 72 hits in apparently 13 seconds to break it

[unkempt river]

a lot.

[unkempt river]

is its aoe floor wide?

[bright cape]

hit him faster

large number of small hits

[unkempt river]

any team recommandations?

currently running haitham, yelan, nahida kuki in there

[bright cape]

that is the best

i don't have yelan. so had to use fischl

[unkempt river]

and what abt the rotation before it's nuke?

do I just get yelans burst up asap and spam with her?

[cloud siren]

what's the best eula team rn?

[bright cape]

u have to do 72 hits in 13 seconds. they have to be elemental attacks.

alhaitham's rainswords hit a decent number

fischl, kuki's aggravate

nahida's procs

[unkempt river]

I did it ty

just the beginning was hard

[bright cape]

oh congrats

yep. after the boss is neutralized, it's very easy

[rancid cypress]

yesnt
c4 does allow her er req to go down a lot but its still not something you can always rely on
i prefer er sands still, c4 does let you get away with less er subs so its comfy

[lyric cargo]

I used
Neuv Furina Xil Kaz
Nahida Xq Kuki Yelan

had to reset 4 times, then managed to break the shield fast enough

if it'd kept not working, I'd have looked into a more optimal team after getting to know the boss in practice
what I changed on the 4th attempt was not using Nahida burst
it doesn't give any additional hits

[strong steppe]

like am i missing something fighting the purple tenebrous thing guy on chamber 2? I break the shield and he still explodes and one shots me, Mualani doesnt even break it faster even though it says nightsoul attacks are effective

[lyric cargo]

Mualani doesn't attack very fast, she does slow but big hits
maybe that's the problem?

it's exploding 13s into the chamber, despite the shield being broken?

[hot cloud]

Guys no way in hell i can beat this guy 💀

[strong steppe]

its entirely possible im only getting it to 99% i guess, but man. Ive never had a problem running dehya as a solo sustain with Mualani until now

[hot cloud]

😭
any good team comp for that boss?

[quaint fern]

This was definitely an abyss

[neon wave]

yelan + xingqiu should clear it pretty fast, make sure to start the chamber with their bursts available
Tao double hydro should be fine

[dapper flax]

HP circlet or crit dmg circlet for Charged DPS Neuvi?

[hot cloud]

the other side with no hydro is not even possible tho...

[opal surge]

you can rational it xd

[hot cloud]

but if im using Yelan and water dude on second team i cant use national on first one

[hot cloud]

this is my acc

Yelan Xingqiu Hu tao second phase
1st phase ? im trying to use Ayato raiden nahida zhongli but idk

pyro bird is impossible without water (i just tried it)

[bright cape]

wasn't papilla tough?

i guess u saved ayaka's burst.

i think that stuff hits multiple times

[quaint fern]

Ye I had to reset for this chamber bc I didn't have burst up initially

[bright cape]

it was fun abyss though.

i did it twice back to back

kachina almost made me quit

apparently she is not that good at breaking wolflord head

[quaint fern]

Ye I had to reset for this chamber bc I didn't have burst up initially

[brittle escarp]

I broke them with Xilonen and she totally sucked at it too

[bright cape]

navia is awesome btw

i did 2nd run with her

she can burst and she has 2 skill charges which gives geo infusion to her normals

[brittle escarp]

I have Noelle built who also breaks them easily

But needed Xilonen for the buff

[bright cape]

i see. i was expecting xilonen to be better.

does her burst break one of those?

[brittle escarp]

No, icd ruins it for her

Only every 3rd hit or so counts

[bright cape]

oh.

it was the same for me with kachina

felt like caveman. breaking that with neuvillette normals

[brittle escarp]

didn't know he can break them too

[bright cape]

it's even slower. but works

[crisp cloud]

I currently have lost prayer equiped to neuvi, Should i change and pull for neuvis weapon instead?

[haughty lotus]

No, vortex is on the banner

[crisp cloud]

is the team C1 Neuvi, kazuha, furina, c6 barbara good?

[bright cape]

would replace barbara with anyone not anemo or hydro

show ur characters

[foggy phoenix]

is this good enough (ignore the talents and level im out of mora)

[violet cipher]

would you call this a team with low or high ER requirements?

[opal surge]

high

[opal surge]

you really want a crit rate circlet

[foggy phoenix]

isnt 35% cr enough bc of marechaussee set

[opal surge]

not really, youre just aiming at 1:2 after buffs

it usually means going to crit rate cap with sets that give crit rate but your crit damage is also not that high

but it is what it is

[quaint fern]

I feel like this abyss would have been so much easier if I had xilo

[opal surge]

just one rotate wolf

[bright cape]

how so?

i heard she sucks for wolf

[rancid cypress]

xilos miles better than kachina

[opal surge]

she does kinda suck at it tho xd

[bright cape]

for wolf lord, i don't think so

[quaint fern]

I used Zl to break the heads

[rancid cypress]

at least she doesnt have 20s cd and can actually move faster

[bright cape]

navia was awesome for me

[quaint fern]

That's like -15 seconds

[opal surge]

kachina also cant CA

wait actually can xilo even ca

[rancid cypress]

she isnt the best but kachinas just

[bright cape]

for kachina, she can break 2 with her skills

with a burst in between

burst only consumes 2/3

so had to use neuvillette normals

[quaint fern]

Okay seriously tho

[rancid cypress]

kachina skill cd is a lil too long and doesnt last quite enough

[quaint fern]

Who decided it was a good idea to but beasts + two elemental checks on 1st half

[rancid cypress]

if her cd was shorter then itd look like xilo performance

[opal surge]

theres an easy third option

[quaint fern]

I less ur crazy like me you're not using ganyu to clear the bird

[rancid cypress]

best are just zhong or the usual stuff or just be me and onephase everytime idk

[bright cape]

what did u feed ur hu tao?

[rancid cypress]

food

and water

make sure good balance on nutrients

[rugged sparrow]

gotta love wolf lord having what, sub 2m HP

[opal surge]

yeah its barely not 2mil

[rugged sparrow]

or is it sub 1.5m

[rancid cypress]

1.9

[opal surge]

its like 1,7 by the time he slides down here

[rugged sparrow]

ok phew

[opal surge]

because of furina

[rugged sparrow]

le balanced fake archon

[rancid cypress]

papilla my beloved

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

At least papilla is built like a piece of paper

[opal surge]

its a full c0 team though, ignore the 3 5 star weapons and r5 fjords

[rugged sparrow]

Papilla pretty tanky I feel like

it's like 3m?

[rancid cypress]

i love watching ppl mald on discord cus papilla

[quaint fern]

Wait is papilla the abyss thing or the bird?

[rancid cypress]

2.4

[rugged sparrow]

the abyss thingy

[opal surge]

abyss thing

[quaint fern]

Papilla was like two ayaka rotations for me

[rugged sparrow]

2.4m huh

[quaint fern]

Granted, she is c4 so....

[opal surge]

i think the bird is the worst mob in this abyss

[opal surge]

papi has res down if you break shield

[quaint fern]

TRUE

[rugged sparrow]

probably the shield phase making it feel a lot tankier than I estimated

it has res up right during shield

[opal surge]

yeah

if you dont break the shield u fight into res up perma i think

[quaint fern]

Papilla was honestly not too bad if you have enough hits to instantly stun it

[rugged sparrow]

yeah it took me 1 whole rot for barely any dmg

[rancid cypress]

it has 70% all res
if you break shield it goes down to 35
if you dont it stays 70

[bright cape]

i dunno how well we can down the bird with xingqiu or yelan

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[quaint fern]

Ayaka c2 lets me frontload the shield break, granted that it absorbs basically all of the DMG of her burst

[rugged sparrow]

pretty much

[quaint fern]

I did it with ganyu, you'll be fine LOL

[rancid cypress]

mualani xilo xiangling ayaka

[opal surge]

mualani can kill papi before he shields xd

[rugged sparrow]

SAKURA FUBUKI

[opal surge]

at c6

[rancid cypress]

can i see cus
it takes like 2s for bro to shield

[rugged sparrow]

it needs to actually just one shot with Yanfei/Klee setup or some shit

[opal surge]

https://youtu.be/_0BTNazN20k?t=18

[rancid cypress]

frame perfect yanfei into xilo into shark or whatever

[rugged sparrow]

fucking dhcswpwa

asdhiaqwdqwa

Amber huh

[rancid cypress]

oh you can use a whole burst wtf

its more lenient than i thought ok

[rugged sparrow]

??? Favo Amber too ok

[bright cape]

thank god. they don't cater endgame content to these whales

[opal surge]

i think you might need amber to get pyro up on papi in time?

has to clear and apply

[rugged sparrow]

wait it has innate aura?

[opal surge]

no but he has leftover hydro right

[rugged sparrow]

oh wait a fucking minute

[rancid cypress]

no but sige hydro app is a fuck you to you

[rugged sparrow]

I didn't even realize he used Sige E

[cyan knot]

hey guys, what hero from screenshot might replace xilonen for neuv comp (neuv+xil+kazuha+furina)

[rugged sparrow]

how many frames was that

[opal surge]

but yeah i swear mua teambuilding is just random bs go

[rancid cypress]

if you just like yanfei n1 then sige e just says yea fuck you and reapply

[opal surge]

here take arle to apply pyro across the map

[opal surge]

kachina or a shielder

[rancid cypress]

dhc got that ipad buff 120fps fr

[cyan knot]

does layla work fine?

[opal surge]

Yeah

[rugged sparrow]

he's not crediting the song smhge

[rancid cypress]

it takes a whole 5s for papi to shield huh

or more like 4.5 or smth but yea

[opal surge]

well realistically it feels like it doesnt because what can your eally do in 4 seconds xd

[rugged sparrow]

just enough time for a Mualanillion dmg

[rancid cypress]

5 star burst animation too long smh

[rugged sparrow]

why burst when E

[rancid cypress]

i mean in general

[opal surge]

do we have any knowers if the zzz events already expired or not by any chance

[rugged sparrow]

uhhh

[rancid cypress]

using 5* burst on papi is a bigger timewaste than it looks

[rugged sparrow]

I think most events dedge already, I checked #1170616138498052157 message

[opal surge]

its so joever for me

[rugged sparrow]

why u skipping smhge

[rugged sparrow]

genshin is a crime for not pausing game time

when chars use burst

[opal surge]

I was procrastinating events ngl

and then there were so many that I didnt wanna start anymore

[rancid cypress]

tru

[rugged sparrow]

[rancid cypress]

but what can you do when this games timer starts at 9 59 half the time

theyre not fixing shit 💀

[rugged sparrow]

ZZZ my beloved

similar thing actually is happening in ZZZ rn

boss in the final "Abyss" floor takes like 5s to de-spawn after dying

so speedrunners are doomed to chuck +5s to their actual timer

[opal surge]

[rugged sparrow]

yeah fuck that

[opal surge]

ok i should do this though xdd

[rancid cypress]

specter

i got a mualani piece for the first time in so long yesterday

[bright cape]

show

[sour birch]

my mualani is so ass it's sad

i have sig n everything too

hp circlet is my only hp mainstat

[bright cape]

i am so excited to see furu's clear this abyss

[dusty cape]

I still haven’t finished this it’s so boring

[quartz field]

Can I please get some help with the chamber of night trial in Natlan? Wanna get the final piece of the green obsidian ring

[elder bluff]

The trials are solo
And they dont bring any chests so no ring piece

[quartz field]

The one by the stadium of sacred flame does, where you gotta defeat 8 nightsoul warriors in a minute

[dusty cape]

can you even coop in those

[quartz field]

Idk, the co-op marker didn't get that little red 'no' symbol when I tried doing it

[rancid cypress]

my codex luck is piss

[strange scarab]

you cant coop that

[mild pivot]

anyone tried Raiden Shogun with Golden troupe artifact, just cast E then swap?

I was planning to use her for now, til I fully built my Fischl

[rancid cypress]

its shit

c5 raiden's lv13 crowned E has around the same multiplier as lv1 fischl E

[quartz field]

So it can only be done solo?

[mild pivot]

Dahek, I'm glad I asked first.

[sage sail]

hey i realised today that slingshot actually beats skyward harp on yelan if u incorporate breakthrough barbs in ur rotation just as a little add-on from our previous convo and even if u don't, skyward beats slingshot by less than a single percent

[strange scarab]

this conversation is pointless because that yelan wants favonius bow

[sage sail]

could come in handy for hyperbloom tho. if ur running yelan and xq u should have plenty of energy

[strange scarab]

you go do that, im not playing hb and mine stays on fav

[dusty cape]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/913018237783003136/1230729548211945593/standard-1.gif

[rocky moat]

Anyone with c6 clorinde or any c6 char? Need to be friends for imaginarium theater pls

[rich narwhal]

Is HP gob better then hydro gob for nev?

[sage sail]

hydro is better but hp can be competitive so go with whichever has better substats or the one that is on set if it allows u to get better substats on ur off piece

[rich narwhal]

Is it better by enough where I should farm it cause my HP gob has 31% CD er on it

[sage sail]

31CD is definitely fine, especially if your best options for your other pieces have a lot of CR

i'd say just wait until u can use the transmuter and try ur luck but it might be better to just use it for another goblet u need

just farm other sets that u need and maybe strongbox it if u already have good sets for MH and GT

actually @rich narwhal can u just screenshot ur neuvi build?

akasha would be convenient

[mild pivot]

is it safe to use websites like Codashop, Lootbar, Razer Gold to purchase Genshin Impact shop items like Monthly Welkins?

[rare iron]

Coda shop and Razer Gold are official sources

Lootbar isn't

Other two known official sources that I found is Jollymax and Kachishop

[mild pivot]

Do I need more ER or Crit Damage?

[sour birch]

depends on team, but it's likely that since u have c4+ you'll be fine on ER in many situations

[mild pivot]

I usually use her with Neuvillette or Vape Team Bennett + Xiangling

[rancid cypress]

youre fine with that er in neuv team
vape well ig you onfield her so would be fine

[spiral mantle]

got zhongli by accident yesterday, how can i improve him?

[lyric cargo]

fav lance is better, I think

[spiral mantle]

rlly? interesting

[lyric cargo]

black tassel improves the shield, but it's likely already strong enough

fav improves team energy

you'll want to level him more, of course

and level his skill talent

[spiral mantle]

yeee

hb artis

[lyric cargo]

healing bonus?

won't help the shield, he doesn't heal I think

[spiral mantle]

how abt*

[lyric cargo]

oh

[opal surge]

i wouldnt farm any more for him

[spiral mantle]

unless c6 iirc and no way im aiming for c6 lol

[spiral mantle]

so the artis are ok?

[opal surge]

theyre fine

its not that they cant be improved (the flower is really quite bad for example) but it doesnt really matter, I would spend resin elsewhere

[spiral mantle]

ill spend on boss mats and talents tom

[rancid cypress]

farming artis when the char is lv70 with lv4 talent is not the right order anyway

[narrow folio]

level him to 90 and raise his talents

[spiral mantle]

he lv 80 rn

[opal surge]

I left mine at 80/80 and never looked back 😌

[narrow folio]

No echo

[keen willow]

Only ascended zhongli for the echo

[proud trout]

What abyss teams are people running with this week?

[crude dirge]

i got qiqi echo 🤑

[lyric cargo]

I'd probably 90 him, though that's partly because I have a lot of char exp books

[keen willow]

C1r1 hutao and arlecchino

[lyric cargo]

I went in with my default
Neuv Furina Xil Kaz
Nahida Xq Kuki Yelan

just wanted to see what the new enemy does, I'd have retried with a more fitting team if necessary

turned out the 2nd half team was ok for it, though I had to reset thrice before I realized Nahida burst was doing nothing for me

once I changed my rotation and skipped her burst, it worked

[proud trout]

Me second team is usually navia + bennett/xl or raiden national and i'm struggling 😭 My first team is nuvi, furina, kaz and xilonen and is perfect but nah, second team keeps having issues booo

[opal surge]

Play chasca bottom half

[pearl wigeon]

how much crit rate should freminet have with marachausse, c1, cryo resonance, and rosaria crit rate buff

[proud trout]

i've sadly had very bad luck with my chasca artifacts so far

[opal surge]

Enough to reach 100% after buffs

[pearl wigeon]

he’s overcapping by 15% at 46% crit rate

[opal surge]

So he should have 31 probably

[keen willow]

21 if you add 9 and 10

[opal surge]

I dont think chasca needs a very good build to be decent in this abyss fwiw, its kind of tailored for her

[bright cape]

just saw this

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1hgcs23/screw_your_mechanics_wolflord/

so c6 bennett doesn't ruin eula team?

[haughty lotus]

It does ruin it

That’s just some c6 eula bs where her NA damage doesn’t matter anymore

[bright cape]

i see

[timber spire]

For a hyperbloom team is kuki better or is fishcl better

[dusty cape]

kuki

[lyric cargo]

Fischl doesn't really work, Oz prioritizes hitting enemies over bloom cores

it'll still sometimes hit them, I think its hits have some AoE

the big upside to kuki is also that she heals

an alternative to Kuki is Raiden
longer uptime and faster procs, but no healing

overall I'd prefer Kuki

[haughty hawk]

i am here

[haughty lotus]

Nah

[dusty cape]

I’d ta

[vernal trout]

suggest teams composition for nahida and her artifsct sets

[lyric cargo]

post a screenshot of your char pool if possible

that way we can suggest teams close to what you already have

[vernal trout]

planning on building yao yao

[rugged sparrow]

Nahida/Yae/Fischl/+1

hyperbloom is also an option with Nahida/Kuki/Xingqiu/Yelan

[vernal trout]

nahia yae fischl and maybe yao yao?

[rugged sparrow]

sure if you want a defensive option

[vernal trout]

yao yao can do deepwood and nahida can go with em boost arti?

[rugged sparrow]

sure

[lyric cargo]

possibly Kazuha
the thing about aggravate teams is that the one dendro unit is usually the defensive slot

[vernal trout]

no heal would be there

[lyric cargo]

so like
Yaoyao Fischl Yae Kazuha

[vernal trout]

sure

[lyric cargo]

using nahida usually means foregoing the defensive slot

[lyric cargo]

this frees up kazuha for the other side though, if you prefer

[rugged sparrow]

Sucrose: 🧍‍♀️

[lyric cargo]

for aggravate?
it's possible, either dmg% or EM are useful stats
though Kaz helps in AoE

the team could be a bit single target focused since a lot of damage comes from Fischl

[lyric cargo]

oh, you mean as a Kazuha for the other side

yeah, if it's like a vape team on the other side

[rich narwhal]

Is there anything I could do to improve my damage and can anyone help me figure out a team for him idk what I want to use

[bright cape]

may be slightly more crit rate

for team, u can use the hyper shown there.

u will need dmg bonus buffs coz of hp goblet

[quaint fern]

ye normally you'll wany hydro gob with amber

[bright cape]

prepping for upcoming theatre.
who is the most useful out of these 3?

c2, c1, c0

[quaint fern]

probably yunjin? mika is really only good with furina

[bright cape]

how about gorou?

[quaint fern]

isn't he like sara but for geo?

pretty sure his kit is smth where you want 3 geoo

[bright cape]

he is archer

[quaint fern]

not very useful

[bright cape]

oh ok. then yunjin it is

i am also trying to get some free pulls

[quaint fern]

yunjin gives buffs to NA dmg

so she's more generalist

[bright cape]

[quaint fern]

I dont play geo so that's the extent to what ik off the top ogf my head

[rich narwhal]

I don't have furina or xian that's kinda my problem I'm going to try and get furina her next rerun

[quaint fern]

go hydro goblet then

[rich narwhal]

Alright is hyperbloom good or would something else be better

[bright cape]

then kazuha, shielder, kachina, fischl. basically u only have to make 2-3 hydro reactions

heck even childe

[bright cape]

hyperbloom with raiden is ok.

but neuvi's damage won't be a lot in that team

[rich narwhal]

Would it be better if I took kaz off of arle team for nev?

[bright cape]

i would rather keep kaz with arle

neuvi doesn't require grouping that much

his beam has nice aoe

may be sucrose would be better

[quaint fern]

ye neuvi is less strict for team building

[rich narwhal]

Would Raiden be better then fishal or should I start building her to use her

[haughty lotus]

Neuv zhongli Kazuha fischl/xiangling

[bright cape]

not quite

[sick quarry]

First floor I had been using Neuvillette, Xiolenen, Kazuha, and Fischl.
What should I use for the 2nd floor with the characters I have atm?

[bright cape]

u can go Neuvillette, Xiolenen, Kazuha, and zhongli for first half
Alhaitham, Nahida, Fischl, Kuki 2nd half

that team is sufficient for papilla

doing this abyss without neuvillette is quite fun

[sick quarry]

Can I show you my builds for that 2nd half team?

[bright cape]

sure

is ur neuvi c1?

[sick quarry]

Give me 30mins.

[sick quarry]

C2

[bright cape]

oh damn. then it's better to go raiden instead of zhongli

[sick quarry]

My raiden is em based.

I can build her on crit. That will take time. I don't mind.

[bright cape]

it doesn't matter. her only job is to make neuvi stack

[sick quarry]

The problem is that I put my artifacts on kuki. They shared the same set.

[bright cape]

i do the same.

then try adding someone hydro. for resonance

if u had childe, it would be classic

[sick quarry]

I'm going to pull for yelan. Whatever is her next rerum tho.

[sick quarry]

I've xingqui

[bright cape]

with xilonen n kazuha, u can slot anyone.
yah. xingqui is fine too

[sick quarry]

I wish he had a rerun ngl.

[zenith thicket]

What does xilonen have that kachina doesn’t?

[haughty lotus]

Res shred, healing

[elder holly]

hi guys looking for advice, day 1 player here and i’ve never once completed the spiral abyss (i’ve never tried that hard to be fair) but im hoping to beat it once and for all, here is my roster. i can imagine my struggles come from the lack of supports i have built… any advice for which supports i should prioritize on my account? furina will also be coming home next rerun if that information is relevant to any advice!

[sick quarry]

So you want me to do Neuvillette, Xio, Kazuha, and Raiden, yes? For 2nd half I do Alhatithem, Nahida, Fischl, and Xinqiu right?

[fiery wigeon]

Is chascas best team

Chasca, Bennet, furina & Ororon?

[opal surge]

generally yeah

[fiery wigeon]

well when i have done building the worst signature kinnich team around imma start

[bright cape]

finally without neuvillette

[rancid cypress]

wow

[violet cipher]

the biggest problem I have in spiral abyss is the golden wolflord; what team I use to deal with it?

[rugged sparrow]

can either one rotate it or just bring 1 geo to do its mechanic

[rancid cypress]

literally no geo pulled

sounds like ttds petra ning copium

[rugged sparrow]

got Kachina ig or even just TTDS Ning

can probs just run Yelan Furina +1 geo and breeze through it

[rancid cypress]

tbf drake isnt really a problematic enemy
should be fine

[rugged sparrow]

why suddenly drake

they're diff halves

[rancid cypress]

which means you can allocate more time on wolflord

[rugged sparrow]

ic

[rancid cypress]

120/60 allocation on halves does make options more broad than 90/90 allocation

[rugged sparrow]

30/30

[rancid cypress]

16/13

[rugged sparrow]

whel

[rancid cypress]

i malded this out yesterday

[rugged sparrow]

breh

[rancid cypress]

this abyss is so shit for solo runs i think im done here lmao

[spiral mantle]

would mualani xilonen zhongli xiangling work or too little pyro app

[rancid cypress]

yes but replacing zhongli would be optimal

[spiral mantle]

i run burnvape rn

[rancid cypress]

xiangling is enough albeit er req is pretty painful

[spiral mantle]

yeah

[rugged sparrow]

at least 2 fav holders unless Xilo on PPS

[rancid cypress]

my solution was to not burst on one chamber and let guoba do everything

[rugged sparrow]

guoba, get them

[rancid cypress]

im still not entirely sure what im supposed to do on flying dino without the run looking like a mess

ok well not something todays me should worry about i just got sprint card

[rugged sparrow]

[mild pivot]

What is the best crit rate for a dps in Genshin? I play HSR and my dps are always at 80% to 100%, so I don't know how the dps affects here in Genshin. Does stats really matter?

[haughty lotus]

Half of your crit damage

It’s the same as star rail, there’s just a lot of crit buffs in that game so it’s normal to have over 200 cd

[mild pivot]

I just started Genshin on Furina's first banner, and I never bothered building artifacts til recently.

[zenith thicket]

Is xilonen fr tbst much better than kachina

I js need a geo character and also a natlan one too ig

[rugged sparrow]

Xilonen has ~45% res shred (more with c3)
Kachina has none

[violet cipher]

Can you give some examples? It's hard to decide what to use for side b since I've been using Chasca/Ororon/Bennet/Furina; plus the team comps I'm trying to make with geo aren't surviving very well.

[rugged sparrow]

just run monohydro or smth with Kachina / Ning last slot

something like Kokomi/Yelan/Xingqiu/Kachina

[violet cipher]

so what about the other side?

[rugged sparrow]

you said you run Chasca

[violet cipher]

Yeah and Chasca- oh wait nvm

[rugged sparrow]

[violet cipher]

I thought you put furina in that 1st comp

I heard monohydro and assumed furina

[vernal plover]

Is this artifact good for any character?

[rugged sparrow]

it's alright on Furina, 6 good subs

[vernal plover]

I have this one on her rn, which one would be a better choice?

[rugged sparrow]

technically the same amount of subs, if you don't need the ER the 2nd is better

but if the ER roll on the first one make or break your rotation, it's just straight up better

[violet cipher]

I tried this and the timer said 7:21, do you have any other ideas?

[rugged sparrow]

what are you doing

honestly I got no clue, mind sharing your gameplay so we can like, give pointers

[violet cipher]

https://youtu.be/bqyMwVFcut4 I could also stream it ig if I could use the voice channels

sorry for the ping, I thought it was ready

It is now, so lemme know what you think please

[rugged sparrow]

your energy management is horrible despite running triple hydro and Sac Xingqiu

also during the head change phase you should just
E > Q > E on 3 heads
I noticed you didn't even let the first one pop from your E before replacing it with your ult

and then you waste Xq cooldowns on the heads so you have no energy when it's downed

Kachina is on 4p Cinder right

[violet cipher]

Yeah but it’s kinda bad.
If you have the time in a few minutes, could you join a stream? Maybe in a group dm or something?

[rugged sparrow]

I'll pass

also you had no reason to use Xq double E at the start

you couldn't pre-funnel the energy before you use your burst

so you start 2nd rot with basically no energy

[violet cipher]

Ok, I’ll take what you said into account and let you know what I get next

[violet cipher]

I was trying to charge up Yelan’s ult

[rugged sparrow]

already maxed the moment you just use Yelan's E

you can also slap TTDS on Kokomi and do Kokomi > Xq > Yelan rotation

TTDS buff to Xq, one of Xq particles go into Yelan

[violet cipher]

what did you mean by E>Q>E?
Do I place the drill like a turret or use it and then basic attack? Also if I Q it only gets rid of 2/3 of the bar.

[rugged sparrow]

either

then just use Kokomi on-field to deplete the remaining bar since she's catalyst

[violet cipher]

I have a fav sword, should I give that to Xinqiu instead?

[rugged sparrow]

wouldn't make much diff

[violet cipher]

Okay I'm still having trouble, do you happen to have a video of this kind of rotation?

[rancid cypress]

im late but i think i already see the problem on doing EE on xingqiu when everyones burst is full and the boss isnt even out yet

[rugged sparrow]

yeh 2nd rotation bricked that way

[mild pivot]

How much is the damage difference between ATK% Goblet and Electro DMG% Goblet on Fischl?

[violet cipher]

When do you start attacking? when the Wolflord attacks or as soon as the wolflord gets out of the portal?

[rugged sparrow]

you just setup rotation when it does the glide attack (like the one in video)

when it does the "scream" thingy

or after it does a tail attack (he'll always follow up with laser beam after tail attack)

[violet cipher]

I waited for it to do the glide attack and it died at 7:15.
Are there any better teams for p2 I could make?#📌gimshim-help message

[rugged sparrow]

just bring Furina 1st half and run hyperbloom 2nd half then

can also use your Noelle if she's built (Noelle/Furina/Yelan/Kachina) but idk how built your Noelle is

worst case scenario she's just 4p AP + Fav user for the team and be a driver

[versed marsh]

[violet cipher]

Yeah she's not built. I have Serpent Spine and GF but I don't have any defense -related gear for her.

[rugged sparrow]

unlucky

[violet cipher]

she's also 80/80

I do have r4 fav sword though. Idk what AP is though

[rugged sparrow]

Archaic Petra

[lyric cargo]

should be 36% at skill talent level 10

45% with TL13

[rugged sparrow]

eh is that so, guess I misremembered it

[lyric cargo]

(I didn't know it went up that far, I thought it was like 40% at TL13)

shows how little I look at c3 - c6

[violet cipher]

1st half 7:49

[violet cipher]

hyperbloom (nahida/Xingiu/Kuki/Fishcl) is too slow, is there anything else I could make?

[rugged sparrow]

yeah idk try Arle or Tao team with Kachina / Ning last slot and see how it works

[rancid cypress]

im back

hi back im also back

[rugged sparrow]

hi

[rancid cypress]

how is hyperbloom slow on second half

its one of the more favored teams here

[rugged sparrow]

I mean they took 7:49 on wolflord

[rancid cypress]

with what

the same 3 hydro thing above?

[rugged sparrow]

monohydro with Furinage

atp either pilot issue or artifact issue idk anymore

[violet cipher]

Stand corrected, it was just enough

ty

[rancid cypress]

oh nvm they got it

all is good

[rugged sparrow]

pog

[violet cipher]

coincidentally cleared it in the video I was going to send

[rancid cypress]

got me real worried here cus my clorinde solo was 7:55

[rugged sparrow]

whale

[rancid cypress]

12-3 was harder than 12-2

[rugged sparrow]

12-3 easier for me idk

I hate Qucusaur

[violet cipher]

I'm building Noelle so this doesn't happen again, I should have enough fodder to build her up.

[rancid cypress]

well i mean i was like doing wolflord with a singular clorinde as my team so like yea

clor actually takes care of qucu

[violet cipher]

would this Clor work?

[rancid cypress]

noelle furi yelan kachina should be decent ig

[rancid cypress]

arti overall is cope

[rugged sparrow]

yeah that's what I recced but they dont have a built Noelle so

[rancid cypress]

not sure how good fs is on clor but idk

[rugged sparrow]

it's... usable

better on quickbloom ig but yeah

[rancid cypress]

eh for this case then ig

clor can break papilla shield so better on second but furi is too good on first

[rugged sparrow]

yeh but if they're not gunning for fast Qucusaur clear time it's whatever

wolflord is more of an issue

[rancid cypress]

furi also deletes like quarter of its health on her own so should be pretty comfy

[worthy siren]

I wish i had that nonchalant emotion when i say something completely dramatic with no tone

[rancid cypress]

samonella crabaletta or whatever pinch his balls

[worthy siren]

hehe shes so funni

[dusty cape]

[rancid cypress]

that chill person in chat whos actually mentally unstable be like

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-chill-guy-just-a-chill-guy-relax-gif-1579445140409713118

[worthy siren]

Miyabi has entered the cutie phase

[violet cipher]

so how is this run (#📌gimshim-help message) btw? I felt like I was getting more cores by using nahida but Kuki is meant to be the em person; also should I have used Fischl or so I tried something like Chlorinde or Yae or something?

[quaint fern]

I felt like I was getting more cores by using nahida but Kuki is meant to be the em person
okay so this is a nonissue because nahida is not the one triggering hyperbloom, that's kuki,
should I have used Fischl or so I tried something like Chlorinde or Yae or something?
typically you'll want to be on fielding a dendro in hyperbloom, yae i'd assume to be worse than fischl because there's a higher chance of her actually stealing cores from kuki. As for Clorinde, I actually don't know if clorinde quickbloom or aggravte would be stronger, but in this team I'd expect that you should drop kuki for a second dendro. Sure letting clorinde trigger hyperblooms are worse but if you swap xingqiu for slower hydro like furina, you'll be getting more quicken dmg than hyperbloom

[violet cipher]

Is the character trigerring hyperbloom the same character that is on-field? Because what I should have said is that Nahida was on-field, but I assumed Kuki should have been on-field before I felt like more damage was being done with Nahida. In the video I linked, you can see me using kuki's basic attacks a bit in the beginning but then deciding to switch to Nahida as my on-field attacker.

Furina was occupied with the first half. If I need to swap out Kuki then really my only option is YaoYao, maybe Kiara but that sounds very squishy.

[quaint fern]

okay I think you're misunderstanding what "triggering" means

When you have a dendro/hydro aura and react it with hydro/dendro (respectively), you'll generate bloom cores. You can either let the cores themselves explode or react it with electro or pyro for hyperbloom or burgeon. When you trigger hyperbloom or burgeon, you'll trigger those reactions with only the character applying this last element. In our case, it's either going to be kuki or fischl

So, nahida's em does not matter

Fischl's personal damage probably contributes more than what you potentially lose by her stealing hyperblooms every so often. so I'd just keep the team as it is

[wicked locust]

How much buff does c2 furina gives again?
Ik c0 is like 75 or something wbt c2?

[violet cipher]

Okay, So if Nahida is on field but Kuki's ring is activated and the ring reacts with one of the cores, who triggers it? I'm asking because I'm assuming that hyperbloom damage depends on who triggers it. I'm assuming Kuki?

[wicked locust]

Ya kuki

[violet cipher]

k

[quaint fern]

nahida can't trigger hyperbloom

she can trigger bloom but not hyperbloom

[tight verge]

C1 is 100% i believe

C2 is just much faster stacks

Really op

So at c2 your healer doesnt need to be team wide

[nimble bison]

is the primo geovishap always electro in spiral abyss? or can it be a different element each time

[rugged sparrow]

always electro

or u meant like, not this rotation

[nimble bison]

this spiral abyss rotation, man i was just using raiden

[rugged sparrow]

yes it's always electro for this rotation

different rotations can be different elements

[nimble bison]

is the second chamber second boss swirlable?

the tenebrous papilla

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[nimble bison]

does raiden first half and ayaka second half sound good?

[opal surge]

Does raiden have a hydro teammate and a geo teammate

[nimble bison]

hydro only

what does geo do, i generally dont have geo

[rugged sparrow]

is this for f12

because you kinda want a geo against wolf lord

[nimble bison]

is that a must
does it just need to apply geo, or does geo need to make damage

[rugged sparrow]

well try and find out

[opal surge]

You need to apply geo to 3 wolfheads 3 times each, or kill the wolflord before he phases

[nimble bison]

this is gonna be tough

[lyric cargo]

I recommend picking up Xilonen when you can, she's a good generalist support

[nimble bison]

yea, i like xilonen, i usually would have gotten her if it werent for upcoming characters

can you guys tell me if i can 3 star floor 12 with my current characters