📌gimshim-help

[quaint fern]

Realistically you can probably try to hit 80/170 or smth

[narrow folio]

75 cr is one thing but balancing that with 200cdmg is another thing

[bright cape]

60/120 for baseline
70/140 for crit ascension
80/160 for crit ascension and crit weapon
@fair urchin

[quaint fern]

if ganyu didn't get 20 CR on CA with her passive, this build would be much worse than it is

and this is A LOT of crit substats

[narrow folio]

Like without her weapon I still don't even have 70cr

[fair urchin]

Wdym

[fair urchin]

I have to get lucky rolls

[bright cape]

#📌gimshim-help message

[bright cape]

damn. those are really good stats

[quaint fern]

a ratio like this is very good for not using a crit weapon, let this affect your expectations @fair urchin

[narrow folio]

It cost me my sanity, Nighttime is a terrible domain

[narrow folio]

Not tripled crowned

[quaint fern]

+0.00000000001% DPR

[narrow folio]

And it's totally worth it

[bright cape]

i dunno who can use songs of days past

[narrow folio]

Xianyun and Chevy

[fair urchin]

The daba and the feather

[narrow folio]

That's literally it, nobody else wants that set over other sets

And even Xianyun would rather have VV

[bright cape]

might as well be +0. i have never used furina's normals

except may be on ice dancer

[narrow folio]

Can't relate

I use them all the time

[quaint fern]

healers when someone else is using noblesse, instructors, vv, etc

tbh I'm pretty sure clam is just better than SoDP

SoDP does so little it's not even funny

[fair urchin]

Still without weapon is the ideal navia for f2ps

[bright cape]

is this top 1%?

i would be surprised if not

[quaint fern]

you're obsesseed with 200 CD, that's not realistic without crit weapon

[quaint fern]

let me see, I don't actually use that build too often bc the ER is too low

[bright cape]

i think u r fine

[fair urchin]

🙂 That circlet

[bright cape]

if u really don't want to get crit weapon 70/140 would be nice balance

[quaint fern]

they don't have a fav category LOL

[fair urchin]

Agree

[cedar flint]

it’s better than mine and I don’t even use 4 piece

[bright cape]

. quite heavily contested category i see

[quaint fern]

the funny thing is that this isn't even my furina's final form, I'm still trying to get a better sands

[bright cape]

still very impressive

[lyric cargo]

same, mine is on 2pc 2pc until 6.0 most likely

[quaint fern]

ideally 30 CV with 2 ER rolls is what I'm aiming to get

[narrow folio]

Does this mean I win?

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/this-man-whale-react-him-discord-whale-react-gif-26387281

[narrow folio]

F2P by the way

[cedar flint]

a weird flex but ok

[bright cape]

no u r different category

[narrow folio]

Well I don't have a Festering build

I don't use energy weapons

[bright cape]

my stat chart looks like a fish

[spiral dawn]

what to do with these Graffities ...it summons and ballon and i just activate it..nothing happens

[quaint fern]

you can get in the balloon and it will do balloon things (go up)

it's useful for traversal

it doesn't look like there's a puzzle there?

[quaint fern]

nice ER rolls tho

[spiral dawn]

ohh i see
i thought its a puzzle

[narrow folio]

Almost perfectly balanced

Too much def

[fair urchin]

Just for moving up

[fair urchin]

Don't show me your navia

[bright cape]

she works fine for neuvillette team.
neuvi furina is the new bennet xiangling 😎

[quaint fern]

good news, I don't have a navia to show

[narrow folio]

I do though

[neon harness]

[narrow folio]

You should get one

[quaint fern]

the new national core is
xilonen chiori furina

[bright cape]

i mean i always use them together

[narrow folio]

Topping the charts

[quaint fern]

oh you're playing wheelchair neuvi?

[bright cape]

usually it's neuvi furina kazuha charlotte

[quaint fern]

my fischl is so sad

[bright cape]

charlotte gets replaced according to enemies

sometimes kachina, furina, xiangling etc

this is the most round one i got.

[fair urchin]

Im somewhere near u

just 100000-150000 behind

[bright cape]

@narrow folio

[narrow folio]

?

[bright cape]

sorry it was meant to show the neuvi all round web

[narrow folio]

Moodge

[narrow folio]

なるほど

[quaint fern]

my wrio is pretty round I think

[bright cape]

i used to have banger fischl. navia stole her pieces 😭

[bright cape]

u have very high standards

[quaint fern]

are tighnari mains slacking? I should not be top 2%

[narrow folio]

After playing for four years, you kinda have to have high standards

[quaint fern]

@fair urchin this is an example of a build that has its crit ratio carried by the weapon

[bright cape]

my fischl's web is like icecream cone

[quaint fern]

there's no fav shieldbot category for some reason

[narrow folio]

Unrelated but I meant to ask you, have you played Strinova?

[quaint fern]

is that a new gacha? no

[cedar flint]

there is no qiqi leaderboard for some reason

[narrow folio]

It's kinda like Valorant

There is gacha for skins though

[cedar flint]

so csgo

[narrow folio]

I'd say that's accurate

[cedar flint]

https://tenor.com/view/csgo-trademart-trading-csgo-trade-knife-gif-17760128

profit

[narrow folio]

It's all about investment

[fair urchin]

Okay, The weapon alone gives 31

[celest gate]

Is this okay or back to the mines?

[quaint fern]

zhe

[spiral dawn]

guys i just got qiqi
is there any use of her still?

😭😭

[dusty cape]

leave me alone I'm trying to bring my cr down and cd up

[lyric cargo]

lvl70 to fill out the numbers for theater is reasonable I think

but you don't need to do it until it actually becomes necessary. each theater lasts for a month, afterall

[haughty lotus]

No

[quaint fern]

She isn't even good for chlorine skyward blade shenanigans

Mika is better

[cloud siren]

which one better?

[lyric cargo]

if you count the number of useful substats

the left one has 3 rolls of crit dmg and 2 rolls of either atk% or def% (those two won't be useful at the same time)

the right one has 4 rolls of crit rate, 1 EM, 2 ER

so easily the right one is better

now, whether you want cr circlet or cd circlet.. it depends on context
Do you have an enka card for the char that would be using it?

(https://enka.network/)

[fiery wigeon]

Is giving Tighnari an attack sands due to lacking an EM one with good substats a valid play?

[lyric cargo]

atk% and EM sands are similar on him, if you don't have his signature

if you have his signature, then EM is better

[fiery wigeon]

I don't have his signature but I do have him c5 as I'm "lucky"...

[lyric cargo]

ah. I'm only at c2, after choosing him on the selector

[fiery wigeon]

Rn I'm using thundering pulse

Wait we getting a new selector?

[lyric cargo]

I meant the last one

we're getting one every year I think
each anniversary

[fiery wigeon]

Ooo I might actually c6 him at that point ngl

[lyric cargo]

ah. she does want a crit rate circlet ideally, since her ratio is quite unbalanced

[cloud siren]

so i give her the left one right

[lyric cargo]

a balanced crit ratio would be as close as possible to any multiple of 1:2
like 90 crit rate, 180 crit dmg

[cloud siren]

234.6/69.2 with cr hat is ok?

[lyric cargo]

I can try and calculate it by hand, but that'll ignore the atk% and EM subs

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[lyric cargo]

as far as the crit ratio is concerned, your average damage scales with 1 + cr * cd

so
1 + 0.517 * 2.781
= 2.437777

with the first circlet:
1 + 0.692 * 2.346
= 2.623432

[lyric cargo]

since your other pieces are all so good, you could also try crafting a CW pyro goblet and using an off-piece crit rate circlet

[fiery wigeon]

alright this is how i am looking atm with the deepwood and thundering pulse , ngl my deepwood relifacts suck

[cloud siren]

thank you for help

[lyric cargo]

the woes of farming up an alt
am I really about to look up white iron chunk locations 🤔

[bright cape]

send commission for mining

[lyric cargo]

huh, for a moment I forgot mining expeditions give that

[bright cape]

i was surprised how u got so many green without white ore

[quaint fern]

I'm pretty sure I'm the lowest on iron chunks lol

[bright cape]

they recently added brown iron chunks to expeditions.

[lyric cargo]

I believe I used them for teapot

[bright cape]

that was such a nice qol

[fiery wigeon]

Ok then random 1 pull on standard banner

[bright cape]

congrats.

[quaint fern]

DID THEY???

OMG I was using up all of them for tea pot

[bright cape]

yah. before for teapot, i had to always farm them.

some items require brown ores

[fiery wigeon]

Ngl no idea what I'd even do with the wolfs gravestone as I already have the serpents spine

[bright cape]

it's mid for every character

i gave mine to navia for now

[lyric cargo]

I believe spine can overcap crit rate on some MH or Codex chars

I'd expect WGS to perform better there

[fiery wigeon]

My itto with 92% cr moment

[wooden plume]

im not really sure how to build her so i just threw stuff on her

[quaint fern]

4 TF is her best set

[fiery wigeon]

Ngl I don't like itto that much as he always has ER Issues so I might just wait for the next navia rerun then move serpent spine over and the relifacts apart from the sands as it's def

[quaint fern]

But you can use 2pc em/atk/electro

[lyric cargo]

maybe Mavuika uses Claymore, like in the cutscene

[forest venture]

let the blades do the talking

When Mauvika unleashes her Elemental Burst, all 5-star units gain 6 Constellation Levels for 90 seconds.

[nova swift]

We get one every anniversary, starting from the last one we had

[fiery wigeon]

ohh yeah i am just brain dead ngl i forgor abour that

[burnt flower]

Does anybody know that the 10% discount from google play games beta offer applies for Genshin as well? I don't want to download 60gb only to find out it doesnt

[strange scarab]

um genshin is free idk why you wanna put discount on it

[burnt flower]

for the IAP

[tall python]

How hard is it to farm for obsidian codex?

[strange scarab]

all artifact domains share the same rng

[tall python]

Damn ive been farming the domain for almost 3 weeks and i get codex 1:3 ratio plus really bad stats unlucky

[strange scarab]

its only been 3 weeks what you expect

[tall python]

I mean I should atleast have 1 'decent' artifact right? Feather or flower but nop

ig it went to the other artifact it share

[bright cape]

how long should one farm?

[tall python]

I farmed for many arti and most recently the one for emilie which lasted 3 months and my set is only good lmao

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[tall python]

Ehe

[strange scarab]

"There is new offer if you use their google play games beta and u get 10% off IAP up until 1000 dollars

I cant remember the galaxy store offer"
saw this from GIO
seems legit

[quaint fern]

tbh 3 months is kinda short for a domain

but maybe that's just me rolling like 2-3 characters per major version

[foggy phoenix]

is this good for raiden

[strange scarab]

nope

[cloud plover]

widsith, thrilling tales r5, or eye of perception for sucrose?

[keen willow]

Wdym +600 def

[cloud plover]

oh wait i actually have ash-graven drinking horn too

so there's that as an option as well

[keen willow]

Depending on the team thrilling tales is her bis

[cloud plover]

oh okay, thank you!!

[limpid gate]

hey yall im new and i dont know how to build a spiral abyss team. I only have one 5 star driver (Wanderer) and zero team building knowlange. Is there any resources or recomendations?

[quaint fern]

You can Google KQM if you want to read about teams

You can send your roster here and we can try to help you make some teams

Wanderer isn't a particularly good on fielder either

[quaint fern]

@strange scarab do you think that wanderer Nahida fischl xingqiu is better than wanderer hyper?

[limpid gate]

i dont have a lot 😦

[quaint fern]

Uuuh how far into the game are you, that's a pretty empty roster

[limpid gate]

45

[quaint fern]

Are you doing abyss 1-8 or 9-12???

[limpid gate]

1-8 but i dont wann invest in a team that doesnt work

i dont really understand teambuilding outside of reactions

also lost the 50/50 and got qiqi instest of nuev so a little salty

[quaint fern]

I'll try to do a quick and dirty explanation

[limpid gate]

(this is what im curently running)

[quaint fern]

Normally you got your on fielders, these can either be on field carries or drivers.

Healers are self explanatory

Then you have your off field dpses, we can include xiangling, xingqiu, rosaria etc. normally they're just here for elemental applications on top of their dmg

[limpid gate]

that makes sense

[quaint fern]

Your account is actually cooked LOL, no Bennett no kuki, no sucrose

[limpid gate]

D:

i could get sucros

[rancid cypress]

xiangling xingqiu fischl for now seems like a good general option to invest into
kachina which is free as you do more story will have a slot as low invest buff unit thats actually pretty good
layla can have potential if you happen to get a team that wants a shielder in the future
keep an eye on bennett, you can buy him in starglitter shop right now but if you dont have enough save starglitters so you can buy him next time hes on shop which is next may or whatever iirc
wanderer isnt particularly a unit you wanna use right now you dont really have a team for him, you dont have bennett yet and faruzan is pretty shit to use without her c6

[quaint fern]

Continuing on,

Then you have your dedicated supports, there's a fine line between off field dpses but you can think of characters like yunjin, shenhe, shielders, Kazuha, etc who don't really do much damage off field but provide useful buffs or utility

[quaint fern]

Xiangling is like a c tier until at best without bennett

[limpid gate]

oof ok

[quaint fern]

But anyways

Normally you'll begin by looking at picking an on fielder

In your case wanderer

You'll find that most of his teams follow this core

Wanderer, Faruzan, Bennett, shielder

[rancid cypress]

its also why i mentioned starglitter shop + bennett

[quaint fern]

You can drop the shielder for another off field dps but it's usually recommended you get them

[limpid gate]

but me no have bennett 😦

[quaint fern]

When is he even in rotation?

[rancid cypress]

may nov iirc

[quaint fern]

He's in rn?

[rancid cypress]

yes

[quaint fern]

@limpid gate if you have 34 stardust you spend it on Bennett right here right now

[limpid gate]

dont be mad

[rancid cypress]

again if you dont then save up, its better to wait for good shop rotations than throwing them all on wishes

[quaint fern]

I'll try to explain their roles now

Faruzan is here to act as 1) a battery and 2) a support, she is one of the very few units in the game that can shred anemo resistance so she's essential to any wanderer/Xiao team

Bennett: genshin's premier support for atk scaling dpses, he does it all: powerful healing that makes you basically immortal unless you get melted/vaped within his burst

Shielder: wanderer flys. I don't know if you've noticed this, but he can get interrupted or staggered while doing attacks when he takes damage, the shielder is here to prevent this as well as provide additional buffs (dependent on the shielder in question)

[limpid gate]

this makes sense

[quaint fern]

A lot of team building is just having game knowledge tbh, and also reading what tcers are saying, using tools like optimizer and gcsim to check rotations and stuff but that's a whole other can of worms

[limpid gate]

is there a team i should start building rn / a charecter that i need to be pulling for?

[quaint fern]

Not really

[limpid gate]

soooo no abyss for me?

[quaint fern]

There is no shot with this roster

If you were here a week ago I would have said to dump everything on Nahida banner

[limpid gate]

So if I'm cooked how do I uncook

[rancid cypress]

you just play while pulling good future banners

[limpid gate]

So just stack primo gems

[quaint fern]

Try pulling a dps that doesn't want Bennett, you have XL and wanderer already

Hyperbloom is a good place to start

[strange scarab]

[quaint fern]

Wait can he swirl oz like sucrose does?

I actually don't know wwwwww

[pearl girder]

Hi where is the codes channel

[quick osprey]

My friend is needing help with team building.

He also has, that isn’t shown:
Wriothley
Kinich
Barbra
Bennet
Fishel

[pearl girder]

Is there a code ping in this server?

[dusty cape]

check roles channel

[fair urchin]

I changed my expeditions from day 1 to ores for iron sting

[quaint fern]

ask them to send it like this #📌gimshim-help message

[quick osprey]

?

[quaint fern]

their roster

[dusty cape]

send an ss like the example, we have no idea what levels any of those characters are at

[strange scarab]

just assume xin yan is lv 90 and everyone else lv 20

[dusty cape]

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063698658358472764/1310903732275384360/character_info_overview.png?ex=6746e9bd&is=6745983d&hm=117f8c2b35e25a11597aba5a7d7f09daecaff7343b97f52c13c49c32b1a1b0f7&
wfl tighnari?

[lyric cargo]

sands could be better
but there aren't really any decisions to be made, I think

it's not like you can choose when to farm or stop farming WT

you just keep getting small improvements from bosses every now and then, whenever you farm to ascend a char or a weekly boss

[crude dirge]

im wasting ALL my resin for freminet rn

my team is frem, yae miko, yelan, kuki

[crude dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063698658358472764/1310925024265240596/character_info_overview.png?ex=6746fd91&is=6745ac11&hm=8cfdec9caee9df3febf72323895c53862e4c9c7bd72a76dd9e1b27de1b070cb8&
should I prioritize leveling HIM up or his talents?

[dark shadow]

Is fading twilight useable on ororon?

[quartz trellis]

is my lyney good?

[forest venture]

level the normals can really help you tons. other than that not a pyro goblet it looks great

[noble vale]

Can I just craft the EM VV goblet for Kazu cuz i still can’t get it? Do i have too keep farming for something better, need to change the circlet?

I’ve been farming blizzard domain and strongboxing for Kazu after I’ve finished with Koko, need EM goblet so I can move on to Shenhe, this progress has gone way too long

[crude dirge]

better use off-set goblet and on set sands
sands much easier to get

crafting em goblet not worth it

[sudden summit]

I fell down and I can't go back, no waypoint,

How to get back haha

[neon wave]

a waypoint should get automatically unlocked for you.
navigate the objective and look at your map, you should have one (down and to the right) with a small blue mark next to it, that means it's on the same layer

[sudden summit]

Oh, i finally saw it, I was a little bit confused

Thank you.

[crude dirge]

why do u have dehya in that team

[strange scarab]

why does it matter when its overworld

[crude dirge]

u killing urself w/ burgeon

so u have to eat more

[strange scarab]

so cook more

dont be such a brokey

[paper cargo]

Could be decent for someone or?

[lyric cargo]

5 useful substats for Xiangling

[crude dirge]

hp rolls:

[lyric cargo]

I'd count how many hits there are, not the misses

3 rolls of crit rate, 1 crit dmg, 1 ER

could've been 7 useful rolls instead of 5, of course

[crude dirge]

should I focus on ascending/leveling up my freminet OR his talents?

im out of resin rah

but i might get refill soon

[cedar flint]

what does electro charge scale of

besides the obvious em answer

[opal surge]

em and levels

its a transformative reaction, they're all the same

they just have different reaction multipliers

[cedar flint]

atk and all the other shit doesn’t effect it? ok cool

I was just thinking to build electro charge Mona for fun

[opal surge]

well electrocharged doesnt have single ownership that you can build for unlike lets say hyperbloom if you have a dedicated hyperbloom trigger

[cedar flint]

mainly Mona cus I have her c3

[opal surge]

Yeah I'm just saying building full EM mona can be a bit sus because mona wont have EC ownership for easily half the time

[cedar flint]

but won’t it be like that for most electro charge comps

[rugged sparrow]

that's the thing, people don't build EM on EC comps

they just treat EC like a bonus and go standard ADC route

[cedar flint]

adc?

[rugged sparrow]

atk/dmg/crit

only chars that build EM specifically on EM comps are usually the anemo units

mainly Sucrose and Kaz just because they directly benefit from it too

[quick osprey]

They aren’t on discord

[dusty cape]

they meant have your friend send you a screenshot like the one linked

[quick osprey]

Oooh

Ok, this might help

He also doesn’t know who to build to help his higher lived characters

[bright cape]

what is the url for chest count?

[fair urchin]

Teams for abyss
One of them has to run without bennet

[bright cape]

how many extra pyroculus are there?

[opal surge]

5

[bright cape]

oh then i am done

[keen willow]

Relatable goblet

[primal latch]

Is the main event of the version here?

[bright cape]

not yet

[bright cape]

was fishing and pipe available at the same time during fontaine?

[dusk mica]

would neuvilette sucrose xilonen layla be a good team or would i wanna switch any of them out, no kazuha unfortunately

[lyric cargo]

the biggest addition would be Furina

Ororon is an option, though I don't know how well he plays with Layla

[dusk mica]

what the hell does his kit do because i just spent like 5 minutes reading it and i feel like i have less clarity than before

[lyric cargo]

he's an off-field DPS who's good in AoE and can hold 4pc scroll of the hero
it's at this point that I realize you already have Xilonen, sorry

so no, Ororon doesn't add nearly as much when Xilonen already holds scroll of the hero

(I'll still try to explain his kit)
his skill and burst are pretty basic. AoE electro damage and a taunt

his passive lets him enter nightsoul state and deal more AoE electro dmg,
it triggers if the team deals electro-charged dmg or nightsoul-aligned damage

[dusk mica]

alr ty

[lyric cargo]

Sucrose gives you VV res shred, which is good, but her EM buff isn't useful
Layla mostly gives a shield, plus some freeze

depending on what the enemies are, you might not need the shield

Neuv is pretty mobile, though some abilities are hard to avoid

[warm stirrup]

Whats the best artifacts and team for Chacsa and would skyward harp do good for her or nah?

[lyric cargo]

artifacts: 4-piece Codex (the natlan set giving 40% crit rate)
main stats: atk%, atk%, crit dmg
useful substats: crit, crit, atk%, (EM)

team: Bennett, Furina, [filler]
good filler options: Ororon, Shenhe
decent filler options: Xiangling, Charlotte, Layla, Fischl, Rosaria, Ganyu..
decent at c0, good at higher constellation: Kazuha, Xilonen

I expect they'll make more units that work with her in the future

weapons:

most of this can be looked up here:
https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

her main downside is, she is very single target oriented. Her damage gets split between the targets, it's not true AoE

so ideally you bring her on the side of abyss that has only one enemy at a time

in overworld, her AoE can feel good as once she's built it won't take that many bullets to ko an enemy

but against multiple actually tanky enemies, it's not great

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus im sorry man.... i really want chascuzz. even tho i also need mavuikuzz

[sage sail]

how do i turn on itto burst in genshin optimizer?

it's not optimizing for geo dmg

[haughty lotus]

Objectively worst character design vlud

[feral reef]

i mean, shes cool af and shoots people

[forest venture]

go to talents tab

[haughty lotus]

No, she’s cringe

Chevreuse and Clorinde can shoot vro

[forest venture]

but they don't shoot lgbtq bullets

[feral reef]

ah fan giving the real comebacks here

[sage sail]

it's pyro bc of benny c6

how do i activate geo infusion on GO

[feral reef]

cant fly tho vro

also clormide

[haughty lotus]

Don’t you have wanda vluddy

[forest venture]

seems like a bug, turn off benny c6

[sage sail]

now it's just physical

i need to factor in his ult into the equation

but idk how

[forest venture]

in the talent tab, you can see the tick box under his elemental burst

[feral reef]

mida

[sage sail]

ooh tysm

[haughty lotus]

Midsca

[forest venture]

let me cook, she somehow works better with 4pc vv

[gilded zephyr]

Can someone let me join their world and help me get Marked Shells from Consecrated Beasts?

[feral reef]

woah

memesicluzz

[haughty lotus]

?

[strange scarab]

👋

[haughty lotus]

[wind bolt]

Yes

[sage sail]

what do u guys think of an arle, yelan, mona, xilonen team?

the rotation would go arle e, xilonen enn, yelan qne, mona q, then back to arle n3d

u catch the particles from yelan e for mona and mona holds ttds for arle

and both mona and xilonen buff everyone's dmg unlike benny who would only buff arle

[haughty lotus]

Bennett is a lot better

[sage sail]

i also have mona c3 tho

so burst is at lvl 13

[strange scarab]

mona still sucks

her burst's level wont make it any better than bennett still

[sage sail]

arle's dmg is still frontloaded so it would still help quite a lot. plus, mona deals a fair bit of dmg with her burst plus buffing yelan and ttds for arle

it's certainly smth

low energy needs too since ur catching yelan's particles with mona

[strange scarab]

omen only lasts 5s. thats before you reduce it with switching time
50% debuff for 5s cant make up for bennett's massive buff that lasts for 12s even if omen boosts both yelan's and arle's dmg
arle is still the highest damage share in that team

[sage sail]

might be good for c0 speedruns tho, no?

[strange scarab]

if it was ever something, why do you only see mona in showcases and freeze team

as if 5s gonna be that much significant

even furina is better off for speedrun

[sage sail]

woah there why the passive aggression?

even if it was suboptimal i thought it was a fun team

[strange scarab]

you asked for opinion on that team did you not? besides if you still want to play mona go ahead. im not gonna stop you from that

[wind bolt]

Dang

[sage sail]

welp ig i'll test it out anyway

i remember my hypercarry team got about 120k per NA

[zenith thicket]

is mavuika kit leaks or official?

[wind bolt]

No kit

[zenith thicket]

i seen videos of beta kit?

[strange scarab]

anything that was shown 𝙗𝙚𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙚 official livestream is considered leak. you should have know better at this point

[zenith thicket]

oh fr

[wind bolt]

Beta is not official lmao

[zenith thicket]

when is the livestream?

[strange scarab]

like 10 days before the patch ends

[zenith thicket]

😔

[strange scarab]

right now its only been a week after the patch starts

thats why you should have known already

[wind bolt]

Isnt the livestream usually on the 3rd weeks friday

[sage sail]

srsly u should try to be nice

[zenith thicket]

mid ass patch bro cant wait for it to end

[sage sail]

i quite liked it

i already got 100% in everything

[zenith thicket]

i liked the new area but the version specific stuff is kinda meh

[sage sail]

new treasure compass is nice

[strange scarab]

i am nice, otherwise i wouldnt have warned them about leaks

[sage sail]

yeah chasca is basically just whale bait

[wind bolt]

Chasca c6 is hot

[sage sail]

i've seen the early cons and u need c2 to make full use of c1

anyway what's the best place for dmg showcases with normal resistances?

i've been using the inazuma guy for a while

[strange scarab]

the asimon

[zenith thicket]

i dont keep up with the genshin stuff sorry 😔

[strange scarab]

i dont expect you to. but at the very least you could have just figured that the patch just started for a week. any footages this early on is obv leak

[sage sail]

ok tried out the comp and it did pretty decent. slightly more than 100k per NA with arle and 12k ticks for yelan

[zenith thicket]

could've sworn kinich and mualani were out officially forever no?

[sage sail]

i forgot to check mona's dmg but then again my mona isn't well-built

[strange scarab]

they're 5.0
we're in 5.2 now

[sage sail]

nope. they'll rerun in due time

[zenith thicket]

no i meant like gameplay from the creator server before 5,0

[strange scarab]

CC server footages are out days after the livestream was shown

[zenith thicket]

its calm tho i gotta worry about my ayaka before i focus on mualani 😭

[strange scarab]

so thats even more longer than the livestream

[sage sail]

my ayaka was never completed bc i could never get a good circlet

always just used a cd circlet with no cr

meanwhile my hu tao was basically perfect a couple months after i started farming cwof

until mh came along

[zenith thicket]

the only thing i have that isnt awful is an offpiece goblet

[sage sail]

wait wth i just got a 160k NA from arle

omg 170k

wait this team is actually pretty good

only problem is a bit of downtime with the buffs but i can see myself using it in abyss

[zenith thicket]

how much damage should each hit of hyperbloom be doing ideally?

mines hitting ~28k sometimes 31k?

[sage sail]

that sounds about right

[zenith thicket]

only?

[bright cape]

yah. hyperbloom is side damage

[zenith thicket]

whats the main damage?

[bright cape]

it alone is not enough for abyss

[zenith thicket]

aggravate?

[sage sail]

alhaitham or tighnari or neuvi

[bright cape]

i use alhaitham

even fischl works

[zenith thicket]

what abt this team

off field raiden theres like almost no atk on her

[sage sail]

not great

only dps other than hyperblooms is xingqiu

better to run a 2nd hydro like yelan

[zenith thicket]

would neuvi help? idek what neuvi teams look like

[sage sail]

or just replace xingqiu with neuvi

[sage sail]

neuvi hyperbloom is nuevi, furina, nahida or baizhu, kuki or raiden

raiden is better for staying at a distance

[zenith thicket]

no kuki or baizhu, would furina even be usable

[bright cape]

neuvi would be great. replace yaoyao

[zenith thicket]

feel like hyperbloom would waste neuvi tho no?

[bright cape]

it is kind of

but it's a nice side damage

[sage sail]

neuvi does do better in hypercarry teams but it's still a viable option

[zenith thicket]

neuvi like hypercarry id think

tbh furina and kazuha are both on freeze rn it wouldnt work either way

[sage sail]

only problem with neuvi hypercarry is that it uses a lot of high demand supports

[sage sail]

so ayaka team?

[zenith thicket]

i got scammed bro i thought hyperbloom was like the be all end all for damage 😭

[sage sail]

it used to be

[zenith thicket]

they nerfed it?

[sage sail]

no, they just made abyss not work well for it

more bosses and such

[zenith thicket]

oh, so if i just wait it out it'll be normal no?

[sage sail]

same happened with freeze

less freezable enemies

[zenith thicket]

tbh freeze still does pretty well, i think furina definitely helped

[sage sail]

and venti. less "venti-able" enemies in abyss bc that's too easy

[zenith thicket]

esp with citlali coming out im hoping

[bright cape]

i always felt just hyperbloom was never enough

[sage sail]

i think just use mona. her omen lasts a lot longer on frozen enemies

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1307177861894897817/1083056043526979714.gif

[sage sail]

just make sure cryo is applied b4 the omen hits

[bright cape]

it's still a good side damage. add a nice damage dealer

[zenith thicket]

mona sounds like a pain to build icl

[sage sail]

nope. just need ER and talent levels and thrilling tales

[bright cape]

can u show all ur characters?

[sage sail]

one of the easiest characters to build

also noblesse set

[zenith thicket]

low key i got barbara in that team rn bc i dont have kokomi or charlotte 😭

[sage sail]

mona is a great option

diona can be ur sustain

diona is also great as a battery for ayaka

[sage sail]

tighnari quickbloom is nice

[zenith thicket]

i was gonna get mona but got tighnari instead for the thing

[bright cape]

i don't see neuvillette.

[sage sail]

raiden overload is also nice

[sage sail]

im guessing they're pulling him next patch

or is it this patch?

[zenith thicket]

its this one

[sage sail]

oh right. next half

[bright cape]

this patch.

[zenith thicket]

but i need mavuika something to replace xiangling

[bright cape]

neuvi is a strong option

[zenith thicket]

is neuvi still a must pull?

[bright cape]

no one is must pull. but he is good damage dealer

might need shielder at c0

[sage sail]

neuvi is great for ease of use. his damage ceiling is still lower than mualani and arlecchino tho. his image mostly stems from convenience

also he's great for those stupid pyro lectors

i don't have him so had to try multiple times in that godforsaken abyss

[zenith thicket]

barbara melted icl

[strange scarab]

thats fine you can onfield nahida

[strange scarab]

yes

furina is also wasted when you play hb

[zenith thicket]

how to build?

[strange scarab]

you can build triple em or edc it doesnt really matter. she doesnt have to aim for as much em as possible in hb because the electro already does

you can upgrade na to 6

in case you ask, yes she does needs crit

[zenith thicket]

still on deepwood? should i give her guilded and deepwood to yaoyao?

[strange scarab]

that can work yes

[zenith thicket]

Whats best?

[haughty lotus]

Deepwood nahida

[quaint fern]

Nahida should be more consistent with deepwood

Id just keep it on her

[forest venture]

i have the furry

[wide crystal]

hey builds nerds, how good is the burning artifact set on general pyro characters when you add a dendro to support them

[rugged sparrow]

it's bad because you're losing vape

[wide crystal]

ah wait yeah i remember how it works now, the way burning duration is determined and refreshed through elemental application

[rugged sparrow]

I mean that aside, dendro aura means you'll hardly get any hydro aura

so your pyro DPSes lose most, if not all vapes

it can be fine on pyro DPS that don't care about vapes and can fit dendro units for burning (even though Emilie is the only realistic candidate)

[wide crystal]

oh i wasn't even thinking about hydro at all and wasn't even giving it a consideration here lol, i meant as a unit that doesn't care about vape yeah

but good to know all this

besides xilonen are there any off field natlan supports?

this region feels like it's drowning in main dps

[rugged sparrow]

no

Kachina if you want to include her but she has no inherent supporting capabilities

literally 4p Cinder holder

[wide crystal]

that's so brutal dude. like kachina can use the nightsong artifact set yeah but seriously, no one else being off fielder is so painful

[haughty lotus]

Ororon

[rugged sparrow]

forgot about Ororon

but well, almost the same case as Kachina

buffing capabilities locked at constellation

at least Ororon can restore a miniscule amount of energy

[wide crystal]

k but he's electro charged centric unit so rip

[narrow folio]

strongest electro four star since Fischl 🗣️

[rugged sparrow]

Kuki: 🧍‍♀️

[elder bluff]

Sethos: 🙍

[narrow folio]

Raiden:

[crude dirge]

since when raiden is four star

[forest venture]

if fischl becomes a natlan character:

[narrow folio]

She's always been a four star

People just didn't see it yet

[crude dirge]

and nobody said "LET HER COOK NOW"

[rancid cypress]

can i dm ask u smth

[rugged sparrow]

kinky

[rancid cypress]

[rugged sparrow]

but yea just DM

[rancid cypress]

okay

[opal surge]

if (characterDPS>=NeuviletteDPS) {
return "5 Star"
} else {
return "4 Star"
}

[narrow folio]

[feral reef]

GYATT @haughty lotus

[hot spoke]

RAHHHHHHHH

[feral reef]

vros do i just craft chain for ororon

[lyric cargo]

maybe fav'ge

[strange scarab]

Bricked

[white birch]

Which one is better?

[crude dirge]

get hp sands and 2nd will be better

i think

or just keep 1st

[feral reef]

I understand it now

[zealous ledge]

Do geo sigils (the ones you find on walls and stuff) respawn?

[neon wave]

they don't

[zealous ledge]

Okie

[serene sandal]

hey so i have one team which works well (neuv, furina, kazu, zl) but i find that it leaves me to struggle w hydro enemies that are immune lol is there a better char who would be easy to build (aka doesnt need the most specific artis in order to do good damage) who isnt hydro?

not to replace anyone on the team but moreso as an alternative dps?

[bright cape]

i had similar setup

alhaitham, yaoyao, xingqiu, kuki

send neuvi to non-hydro side of abyss and alhaitham team to hydro side of abyss

it works 95% of the time

[serene sandal]

i dont do abyss its too hard for me icl this is js for overworld

[bright cape]

may be baizhu/fischl replace furina in that team

[azure siren]

Hey guys, I’m struggling with the natlan quest where you shoot the dragon. Help

[azure siren]

I would personally say alhaitham. He’s good as a Dendro dps but pair him with yelan or Xingqiu so the damage doubles

[keen willow]

Do you have chasca

[azure siren]

No :/

I also play on PlayStation

[short shell]

If I delete my Hoyolab Account, will it also delete my Genshin account?

[elder bluff]

no

[late blade]

Nope

[forest breach]

Chasca team suggestions

[strange scarab]

chacha bennett ororon babala i guess

[late blade]

And add Xinqui or smth

[strange scarab]

xingqiu dont work on chasca

[cedar flint]

I feel like the dmg numbers are different shade from what they used to be or am I crazy?

[lyric cargo]

I haven't actually tried weaving in NAs between CAs
it'll be very cope, maybe even cost you a full CA
better than Barbara? idk 🤔

at least she covers healing, though without Furina it's less necessary to have healing

[strange scarab]

well barbie can hold ttds at least

thats something

im totally not a fan of sneaking a few nas when my cas already disappointing

[lyric cargo]

right, ttds

I'm convinced of Barbara then, didn't think of that

[sudden summit]

How to unlock this thing? Part of a quest or something?

[lyric cargo]

not a solution:
||there's a blue sensor at the bottom of the platform, but shooting it with Ororon didn't do anything||
I'd be interested as well

[zinc vapor]

Hi I've been trying to update and download i game stuff past few days it's been 3-4 days now cant open it keeps showing 4gb then 6gb then 2gb but it never finish downloading the i game stuff

[tardy trout]

this gud?

swap EM sands for ER sands

[lyric cargo]

https://enka.network/
for better feedback

seeing the ingame display leaves so many questions to be asked

like what his weapon is. if it's fav, crit rate matters. otherwise it doesn't

[tardy trout]

its iron sting

[lyric cargo]

no fav available?

because fav + EM sands > sting + ER sands

[tardy trout]

Em sands and fav swords

[opal surge]

better

[dusty cape]

you have to go to the island below

[tardy trout]

i dont need to touch him anymore right?

[opal surge]

phrasing, but he shouldnt be a priority anymore yeah

[dusty cape]

[tardy trout]

phrasing? wdym by that? so do i still need to touch him or not?

[rugged sparrow]

[dusty cape]

[rugged sparrow]

English as 2nd language moment

[dusty cape]

stop touching people vro

[tardy trout]

???????

shit sound so bad i mean adjusting

[rugged sparrow]

touching [someone] has sexual implications ye

[tardy trout]

tbf english not my first language

[rugged sparrow]

we're aware

at most you get more EM subs on your flower/feather but it's not gonna make or break your run

cr subs would be nice though since Fav

[shadow ermine]

Could someone help me form a good team? I used to play a bit until sumeru and then fell off. Recently got back since it's on Xbox now. I built the wrong characters before but I think I can still come back. Ik I need to build Tigh and Kuki

[rugged sparrow]

what was popular back then is still good/usable for abyss

dendro introduces new team archetypes, you can start working on Tigh/Fischl

Bennett/Xiangling/hydro/+1 is still used to these days
Tighnari/Fischl/2nd electro/+1 for the other

unless you have preferences, these two teams should be the best you can run atm

[shadow ermine]

I'll probably use Wanderer and Yelan for the first since they're mostly built. And I'll probably build Kuki and add Xingqui or Ayato to the 2nd for hyperbloom.

Thank you

[rugged sparrow]

[wide crystal]

Does beidou work with Natlan character special damage modes like xilonen skates, super important

Oh and how tf do people build chevreuse optimally

[opal surge]

scroll > noblesse > sodp

pick the highest which isnt already in the team

[unkempt river]

THIS HAS BEEN SO MUCH FUN!!! I only have an unleveld R2 sac tho

[keen willow]

[unkempt river]

Got any more recommendations? ^^

[keen willow]

I guess raiden taser with xilonen, furina, yelan

I sometimes play raiden yelan kazuha benne as a scuffed hyper carry

[unkempt river]

Yeahh, played that. It's alrighttt hahah

I suppose Xilonen is better in that role compared to e.g. Jean?

[wide crystal]

Help me out here chat. Ororon’s kit. Let’s say I put him on a Chevreuse team. Now, normally he’s an electro charged support, but I wanna use him for the fact that he has nightsoul access and is electro for chev overload. He gets NS points when team mates hit enemies with electro so I could just run Raiden or fischl or yae miko or who cares, you get me, I don’t need hydro for that. Now this part here says I don’t need to proc electro charged, I can also just use nightsoul aligned damage. Say hypothetically that, idk, the pyro archon happened to deal pyro damage and dealt nightsoul aligned damage with her kit, do you guys think that would make Ororon good for a Chev team?

I’m not sure of course what Mavuika’s kit would be but hypothetically, if the pyro archon of the nightsoul region dealt pyro nightsoul damage, do y’all think this comp idea might actually cook?

[lyric cargo]

it would give the team a scroll of the hero holder, yeah
good set to have

[wide crystal]

That too, exactly

Soooo

Should I cook it

[lyric cargo]

as to the viability of the team, it depends on Mavuika's kit (which we don't know yet of course)

[wide crystal]

Right of course

[lyric cargo]

you can insert existing pyro chars in her stead and calc them as if they were from Natlan (enabling Ororon)

[wide crystal]

But it sounds on paper like it would be quite functional at a surface level at the very least, right

Right okay.

Fuck now I need to pull ororon

[lyric cargo]

for what it's worth, I think c0 is worth having at least

if you're not at high pity and risking other 5-stars you want to pull

how do you feel about Chasca?

[wide crystal]

Yeah, c6 doesn’t exist as far as I’m concerned and I don’t even have the 50/50 and I’m at like 39 pity so I can try for him a bit

[wide crystal]

She sure does have the biggest iron

[lyric cargo]

hmm, 39 is fairly high for getting a 5-star you didn't want
(personally I went all the way to 73 since I didn't mind getting Chasca)

[wide crystal]

God I could just like randomly lose the 50/50 in a ten pull and then get ororon immediately I think I’d be a happy camper

[lyric cargo]

I'd do single pulls unless you want Chasca

[wide crystal]

I have the units chasca would require and her travel method would be a blessing ultimately so I guess I don’t MIND chasca but I wouldn’t build her

[lyric cargo]

you can stop the moment you get Ororon, and don't lock yourself into doing a full 10 pulls

[wide crystal]

Good plan yeah

[lyric cargo]

for me, the main problem with her is how she seems to really want Furina

[wide crystal]

Oh she desperately wants furina or yelan

[lyric cargo]

(who I usually need on my other team with Neuvilette)

Yelan won't work, as Chasca does charged attacks

[wide crystal]

Ah I see

[lyric cargo]

you'd have to weave in normal attacks, and the timing to get off 4 CA is pretty tight

Bennett + Furina is a must so far, afaik

(needing Ben isn't a problem for me)

[wide crystal]

The haters don’t want you to know this but charlotte holding R5 thrilling tales is the most powerful damage combo you can cook with furina

[lyric cargo]

Ben Furina Charlotte?

I've seen Charlotte mentioned as a possible support

[wide crystal]

Charlotte has that immensely important team heal as opposed to bennett’s single person heal and doubt me if you want but r5 thrilling tales really is one of the biggest buffs of damage you can give a unit, it’s an OBSCENE amount of attack

Charlotte doing a team heal means ofc that you get full furina buff ez pz

[lyric cargo]

staple: Ben, Furina
very good: Ororon, Shenhe
good: Xiangling, Charlotte, Layla, Fischl, Rosaria, Ganyu
good at c0, great at c1/c2: Xilonen / Kazuha

this was the take I saw

[lyric cargo]

well, it's not as big as Bennett's buff but it's like an extra main stat
might only be available every other rotation

[wide crystal]

Xilonen and Bennett aren’t meant to be used with furina because no team heal. Furina is and always has been a unit meant to enable to healers that have been left behind over time like Qiqi, Sayu, barb, Jean, Noelle, units who just have no usage reason otherwise.

There’s a reason Charlotte released with furina (or was like, the banner just before, I don’t remember)

And being able to hold thrilling tales means you make up the damage loss of no Bennett while getting MORE damage increase out of furina overall

[lyric cargo]

you'll get less fanfare from single target healing, than from frontloaded teamwide healing
but healers like Bennett and Kuki, who offer their own buffs on top of it, are still quite good

[wide crystal]

Exactly yeah

It’s give and take

For raw, unadulterated damage ofc, just mishmash your rainbow damage buffers. Fuck it, whatever works. But if you don’t wanna eat shit in the abyss, I’d use the types of characters furina is made for.

[rancid cypress]

chasca

[narrow folio]

Furina's kinda made for everyone though

[wide crystal]

She is best above all with a full team healing unit as opposed to single healing unit though, that’s pretty irrefutable. It’s why Jean is crazy good with her

[narrow folio]

Maybe it's just my personal experience but there's not really too much difference for ST quickswap healing vs teamwide

[opal surge]

do not listen to him he has c6 furina

[narrow folio]

Okay even before that

[opal surge]

[narrow folio]

Like when I was just C2

[opal surge]

do not listen to him he has c2 furina

[narrow folio]

I saved for that

Don't me

[opal surge]

no but jokes aside fanfare issues are completely solved at c2, I am enjoying the 175 fanfare avg life at c0

Still, opportunity cost is a thing and maxing furinas kit is not as important as maximizing team potential, most teamwide healers don't have what it takes to compete with role consolidation healers like bennet

[narrow folio]

Now when are you gonna get C2?

[opal surge]

im probably mostly just gonna stick to main dps cons

that way i can be relatable^tm for new teams because I have no support cons

[narrow folio]

Relatability

I threw that out the window along with a couple hundred bucks

[opal surge]

unfortunately I lost my chasca c1 50/50

[narrow folio]

[opal surge]

Natlan has not been treating me well, lets just say my c0 chasca was guaranteed radiance

[narrow folio]

If it makes you feel better I've won every 50/50 since Natlan started

[rancid cypress]

wtf c6 furina

[narrow folio]

Where?

[rancid cypress]

idk i saw the message someone having it

[narrow folio]

That guy must be pretty lucky

I wish I had a C6 five star

[opal surge]

[rancid cypress]

[opal surge]

Fund me my c2 chasca

[narrow folio]

What's in it for me?

[opal surge]

good karma

[rancid cypress]

everyones a whale here ic

[narrow folio]

I don't need good karma, I need waifus in three different gacha games

Miyabi, Muavika/Citlali, and The Herta/Fugue

[narrow folio]

Nah just Sensi

[opal surge]

I have only one 5* with cons, its not me

[rancid cypress]

i will keep an eye on them

[wide crystal]

@lyric cargo ORORON IN LITERALLY ONE WISH

WHAT THE FACK

[lyric cargo]

now repeat that with a 5-star

[bright cape]

is ororon off-fielder?

[wide crystal]

yeah but he's like, weird

i'm getting him in anticipation of mav, but he's def a support for chasca

[bright cape]

i want a full natlan team. but looks like that's not happening

only kachina until rn 😔

[cobalt sigil]

Pull Chasca and Ororon for now, then wait for Citlali and Mauvuika in 5.3

It's not a good team but it's a team

[bright cape]

i just need one more. so may be citlali if i win mavuika's weapon

mavuika, pyro MC and kachina

[quaint fern]

Meanwhile me with just kachina

[bright cape]

same here. i only have kachina and she's semi-built

[quaint fern]

Fontaine cast was better than natlan

All of the natlan characters besides xilo just seem way too gimmicky

[bright cape]

natlan?

yah. i felt the same

[quaint fern]

I don't really know how ororon works tho

[quaint fern]

Oh yeah LOL, let me fix that

[bright cape]

i hope pyro MC synergizes well with mavuika

if nothing at least there's pyro resonance for now

[quaint fern]

Watch Mauvika scale on HP

[bright cape]

pryo is always atk

[quaint fern]

Tbh I kinda want to roll chiori

[bright cape]

she's the best navia teammate. but at c1

[quaint fern]

I couldn't justify it during fontaine but wheelchair looking kinda

[bright cape]

does wheelchar need c1?

[quaint fern]

Yeah to be good you need c1

[bright cape]

i dunno the team

[quaint fern]

I'll probably go xilo 0 -> chiori c1 -> Furina c2 (from c0) -> xilo c2

Pull order will probably vary depending on rerun time

The issue with chiori is that I didn't really have a second geo teammate to make her work

Zhongli is usually a DPS loss in teams that don't need him

[bright cape]

that's too much for my investment.

i will try to get mavuika. then citlali or xilonen who works better with her

tbh. i don't feel using furina comfy with anyone

everyone stays at half hp

my furina-neuvillette is as tied as bennet-xiangling

[quaint fern]

You see, I don't have this problem for a simple reason

No neuvi

[opal surge]

i do have neuv but i almost never play furina and neuv in the same team nowadays

furina is always busy somewhere else

out of my 11 built onfielders 8 have furina in their best team, 2 have furina as an option for a bis-adjacent team and exactly only arle doesnt want to use furina (but can use her as her best option for fast clearing content)

and yet people are making copy pastas about xiangling

[quaint fern]

I can’t take it anymore, I’m sick of Furina. I try to use Lyney’s Passive, Furina gives more damage. I try to use Neuvillette’s passive, Furina gives more damage. I try to use Cyno, Xiao, they both want Furina. I fish for her, I give her the Pipe. “These scraps are unbecoming of me, give me Festering Desire.” I don’t have Festering Desire, I missed the event. I try to pull Splendour of Tranquil Waters, I get the Donut. I can’t pull anymore. She takes my card, it declines. “I guess this is the end.” She summons Mademoiselle Crabeletta. “Mademoiselle Crabeletta, pinch his balls.” There is no hint of pity in her eyes, nothing but pure, unrivaled DMG%. What a cruel world.

[opal surge]

[rancid cypress]

🦀

[fallow yoke]

What's the team for camellya?

[forest venture]

huh

[fallow yoke]

Camellya

I dont have shorekeeper for her

[bright cape]

u can use sanhua n any healer

verina, baizhi

[fallow yoke]

Are u sur

[quiet pendant]

how can i improve my clorinde?

[strange scarab]

everything except feather have very low rv

[quiet pendant]

the domain hates me ;-;

[bright cape]

yep. sanhua is the best

for now

[zenith thicket]

do i keep grinding away on ayaka or should i try to get some er on kazuha so that he can use iron sting?

or maybe somthing else not iron sting idk

[strange scarab]

xiphos

[zenith thicket]

what is that

[strange scarab]

a sword
isnt that what you asked

[zenith thicket]

wait isnt that his sword 😭

[strange scarab]

freedom sworn?

[zenith thicket]

oh nvm then

i dont got it tho its between this sac and iron sting

[sour birch]

both of these are unfortunate but realistically you're not going to get enough ER to use iron sting, and if ur gonna use xiphos you already have enough. so just focus on ayaka or wtv

[cedar flint]

https://tenor.com/view/furina-genshin-impact-festering-desire-clearly-gif-11713140601347840705

[rancid cypress]

air fryer

[full sonnet]

How much work has to go into making Hu taos ultimate nuke

Cause it only looks like it's doing 5-50k damage

[strange scarab]

[ripe surge]

does the new event sword passive work on the wielder or also on team members?

[full sonnet]

What new sword

[ripe surge]

calamity of eshu

[strange scarab]

unless its stated somewhere weapon passives only work on wielders
i dont see how are you going to deal normal attack dmg off the field anyways

[strange scarab]

yeah this says it buffs normals and charged which can only be done when youre on the field

[cedar flint]

it would’ve said so if it worked off field

this weapon would be crazy if it was for the whole team

[lyric cargo]

Xiphos' Moonlight (4★)

it's basically iron sting, but with a passive that gives you ER equal to 0.036% of your EM at r1

so with 1000 EM, you get 36% ER at r1. 72% at r5

so far it's run exclusively on Nilou's weapon banner, with her signature (Key of Khaj-Nisut)

I got key now, so it makes it kinda awkward to pull for more Xiphos

I have one r2 and one r1

[onyx grove]

Does chasca has ICD to apply the same element on her bullets or she can do it for every hit?

[opal surge]

every other bullet icd, seperate for converted bullets and anemo bullets, but not seperate per element

[onyx grove]

so you only can vape/melt after the 3rd bullet right?

[opal surge]

err

nomenclature is nonstandardized as far as im aware, but the circled bullets apply their respective element

people someitmes count from left to right or from right to left

[onyx grove]

I see, thank you

[crude dirge]

wait so new event is JUST yappatron?

[opal surge]

there are minigames if thats the question

[crude dirge]

oh

I jus did first dialogue and I thought its just gonna enable minigames like always

[cedar flint]

it’s all a set up no event just quest

[forest venture]

i sense an ayato buff (an upgrade from kazuha sword)

[crude dirge]

is ororon good as MAIN dps?

[opal surge]

no

onfielding ororon adds basically no damage to swapping him off

[warm stirrup]

What team comp is better
Hu tao Xinglang Kazuha and Zhongli or Hu tao Xinqiu kauzha and zhongli

[crude dirge]

xingqiu

[warm stirrup]

vapor is better than pyro swirl?

[crude dirge]

depends on xianling cons i think

[warm stirrup]

c4

[crude dirge]

then do vape

[lyric cargo]

her best team in terms of damage is now:
Hutao, Furina, Yelan, Xilonen

though it uses some supports who are in high demand (Furina, Xilonen). So it might depend on what you're trying to run on the other side

[warm stirrup]

If i were to tell you i dont have any of them bside hu tao would u be mad?

dis all i got

[crude dirge]

build eula

[warm stirrup]

Why eula?

[crude dirge]

cuz eula

[neon wave]

Tao performs better in Vape in general. You can use Xingqiu and then you can add a second pyro (preferably Bennett) + anemo (Sucrose, or Kazuha).
You can't reasonably swirl pyro without a second pyro so if you're running ZL you'd run someone else as a fourth

[warm stirrup]

So i swap out my shield for xinqiu

[neon wave]

You can run Bennett Xingqiu Kazu yeah

[warm stirrup]

Would it be worth leveling benny to 90 or jus to 80

[neon wave]

80/90 is fine, but be sure to level up his burst talent and give him a high base atk weapon (and level it)

[warm stirrup]

Lions roar or Prototype

[neon wave]

Prototype Rancour
Ideally you'd craft sapwood for the ER% it provides on top of the base ATK

[lyric cargo]

someone sent me this:

Whilst Lumine has a faster attack speed, Aether runs faster, climbs faster, but swims slower. So.... this is asking about which chr to pick or which chr we picked? Anyways, if you play for the gaming experience, pick Aether.

that has to be wrong?
Seems like a strange thing to implement, and at least the fandom wiki doesn't mention it I think

[lyric cargo]

I said that because I suspected you might be planning to pull Zhongli for her

seems you already got him, though

[warm stirrup]

So what should i do now?

[lyric cargo]

for future pulls, Hutao likes to run with double hydro
so pulling both Furina and Yelan would be good

leaving Xq for the other side

if your other side team doesn't need a hydro applier, you could skip Yelan and just get Furina

I'll look at current teams now

[tall egret]

shouldnt there be a guy named bitsin here?

[lyric cargo]

@warm stirrup
I'd go with rei's suggestion when you're trying to deal maximum damage
such as when playing against the timer in abyss

You can use Xingqiu and then you can add a second pyro (preferably Bennett) + anemo (Sucrose, or Kazuha).

Zhongli is mostly an option for hard content with aggressive enemies that actually threaten to kill you

for overworld, I like to build teams with some chars that give movement utility

[warm stirrup]

Alr thank you sm and I would like to inquiry about Chasca

How to build her a team

[lyric cargo]

Chasca (at c0) wants teammates of 3 different elements

her current best teams all want Bennett and Furina, right now

Great options for the last team slot include Ororon or Shenhe. (I wouldn't pull Shenhe just for Chasca, if you don't already have her)

[warm stirrup]

So would Chasca Bennet Oron and Kazuha do good?

[lyric cargo]

overload, hmm

I'm not sure

[warm stirrup]

im willig to drop oron he isnt built yet

[lyric cargo]

I think i'd try Mona with ttds
her Omen buff doesn't last very long without freeze, though

[lyric cargo]

is this for abyss, or overworld exploration

[warm stirrup]

Abyss/for fun

[lyric cargo]

for the latter, I'd very much recommend Ororon

Chasca is good at moving horizontally
but burns her points very quickly when trying to go up or down

Ororon is good at going up

in Natlan, you can swap between them to maintain near-permanent flight

[warm stirrup]

So would i swap kazuha

[lyric cargo]

maybe Bennett, Xiangling, Mona
or Bennett, Ororon, Mona

I see you also have Layla, for situations where you need a shield

[warm stirrup]

Would it be smart to do cahsa mona layla then maybe bennet?

[lyric cargo]

you can do that, yeah

[warm stirrup]

alr THANK YOU

[neon wave]

Yes, it's possible some quest is interfering with his location or is required for him to appear
What's in your quest log? Have you done the master's of the night wind reputation quests?

[nimble bison]

is the new event weapon good for anybody in specific?

[lyric cargo]

sword users who scale with atk and deal a good portion of their damage with Normal and/or Charged Attacks

Ayato? Clorinde?
on teams where there's a shielder

[nimble bison]

i dont think i have anybody that could use it

[elder bluff]

do you fancy dps layla?

[bright cape]

that's 16% crit rate at r5

[lyric cargo]

it seems quite good, but possibly narrow

[bright cape]

i dunno any normal/charge attacking sword character

may be it's for future

like cryo archon

giving me furina's limited weapon vibes

[lyric cargo]

I think Ayaka could use it if the 2nd cryo is Layla
it looks better than Kagotsurube Isshin at least, even if a lot of her damage is burst dmg

but they have Shenhe, so there's not much point in bringing Layla

[bright cape]

does ayaka use normal attack?

[lyric cargo]

I think she uses some CAs? I'm not an expert, just watched some abyss clears

main point is, isshin is mostly just an atk% stat stick so I can't see it being worse

[bright cape]

i think most of her damage is from burst

[lyric cargo]

mhmm

[bright cape]

i also don't have her

sakura fubuki

from the speedruns i have seen

[lyric cargo]

I guess there's.. Ayka Shenhe Furina Xilonen?

freeze for high uptime on the crystallize shield

[lyric cargo]

Ayato / Clorinde are the main ones I think

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/891356658465390673.webp?size=56

[lyric cargo]

I think Clorinde gameplay is N2 E spam?
I don't have her either, and I was on break when she came out..

[bright cape]

i hope there is a good fishing claymore

[lyric cargo]

kqm says N3 E

[bright cape]

every region should have fishing weapon best suited for archon

[bright cape]

nice

i dunno what they were cooking with sumeru

[bright cape]

looks like it's also good for keqing aggravate team with kirara

might finally use her

keqing, fischl, kazuha, kirara

[lyric cargo]

I had a slight read we were supposed to pull Makhaira Aquamarine on the last banner before 5.0

was a pretty good weapon banner, and usually archons have a passive that scales with the elemental resonance element

after they announced the fate points change, I decided it was too much of a gamble

and ful EM would've been.. burgeon? doubtful.

[bright cape]

i think she is gonna be hypercarry focussed instead of reaction focussed

it's been going like that lately

[lyric cargo]

we'll see
surely pyro gets yet another on-fielder

[bright cape]

i don't care

i don't have good pyro on-fielder for my account

[lyric cargo]

I skipped them all as well, so far

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145842643360825344/1297190625451704433/grafik.png?ex=6749c269&is=674870e9&hm=7df90861a5c16d0a9efa15d94809e1d9663ab915f33cc2780033d57e050f59f4&

only Ororon is missing here

[bright cape]

how did u make this?

only pyro i use is xiangling bennett

[lyric cargo]

I wrote a script to make the chars in battle chronicle drag-and-droppable

if you want to make something like it, I'd say a tierlist maker would be the best way

[bright cape]

oh ok

[lyric cargo]

I made it this way because of theater
wanted to see if I have sufficient chars of each element

ideally I want 4 on-fielders and 15 useful off-fielders in any 3 element combo
can loan a 5th on-fielder from a friend
and build 5 teams
for the 10 battles

[bright cape]

i missd xilonen

[lyric cargo]

hopefully she'll rerun sometime before 6.0

[bright cape]

i have lost 50/50 at hard 4 times in a row

[lyric cargo]

welp

[bright cape]

i will save guaranteed for her

next time

[lyric cargo]

I've been way too lucky

  3.1 [SoSS]
+ 3.1 Venti
- 3.2 Tighnari, Nahida
  3.2 [Verity]
+ 3.3 Raiden
+ 3.4 Yelan
+ 3.6 c1 Nahida
- 3.6 c1 Tighnari, c2 Nahida
+ 3.7 Kazuha
+ 4.1 Neuvilette
+ 4.2 Furina
+ 4.4 Xianyun
- 4.4 c1 Jean, c1 Xianyun
+ 4.8 Navia
  4.8 [Key]
+ 5.1 Xilonen
```10W 3L

[narrow folio]

Too lucky, gib luck

[lyric cargo]

I'm saving 150 wishes for every char I want to guarantee now

but that's a luxury I only have because I kept winning

[lyric cargo]

wait, at hard?
that part has to be exaggeration?

I'd understand at 80

[bright cape]

yah. it was 3 hard 😭

if it's reddish, i consider hard

but i have lost 4 times

[lyric cargo]

oh, I thought you meant "hard pity" (90)

[elder bluff]

I have a lost streak before they introduced the purple wish

[lyric cargo]

Hutao (2) 😮

was your first ever 5-star Tighnari at 2 wishes?

[elder bluff]

yes... he started the lost streak

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1310425619892404264/raiden_shogun_furina_zhongli_nahida_and_venti_genshin_impact_drawn_by_very_hato__149212dd3ae55f717369f7c68c590705-256.gif

that is so much unlucky

[elder bluff]

I only have him partially built to this day because of that

[fiery wigeon]

how well does layla work with neuvilette?

[bright cape]

ok for interruption resistance

[neon wave]

Well, solid shield if you don't have ZL, and freeze is nice

[lyric cargo]

she shields him, which is only really necessary against some enemies
he's pretty mobile while using his charge attack, so most damage you can simply avoid by kiting

there's also his c1, if you want to say goodbye to shielders and use a damaging option

[fiery wigeon]

well in abyss i need a second shielder that can offer a little more then just tank i.e an extra reaction or some damage as my other half rn is hu tao

[fiery wigeon]

i pulle for his weapon because i have immence ocd and the proto type amber looks so outa place ngl

[lyric cargo]

it's a good weapon, tbh

I'm probably skipping it one more time, if it runs with Zhongli's signature..

hoping for a better rerun even though it'll likely take a year

I figure if I get it, I'll have to skip something else I want

so might as well delay banners that seem worse than average

and Zl sig is about the worst 5-star weapon I can think of
outside 4mh Xiao

[rancid cypress]

im guessing 4mh xiao would resort to homa anyways

[lyric cargo]

I remembered seeing some calcs saying they're close with 4MH
but the screenshots I can find from back then don't identify the artifact set

meh, I likely won't get Xiao unless he's on a chronicled wish banner and there's another char on it I want 🤔

he's too tied to Furina, I'm more interested in options for a team 2 that don't need her

[cedar flint]

I feel like electro charge can do 20k per tick with the buff would be funny to do it for the memes

[lyric cargo]

I think it's viable, the problem is ownership

every time a unit applies electro or hydro, that unit gains ownership of the reaction (meaning their level and EM matter now)

[dusty cape]

meow

[opal surge]

[quiet pendant]

do i ult first or skill first with c6 sara?

[opal surge]

most of the time you skill to apply electro for your setup and burst before swapping to your main dps

[cobalt imp]

Say, can anyone please help me with this quest?

[umbral sedge]

dependfss

[lyric cargo]

the co-op icon in the top left, next to your minimap, says it's disabled I think?

usually means the quest doesn't allow co-op at that point