📌gimshim-help

[violet cipher]

according to the Zy0x video, the Amos bow is about the same as the farmable Fontain weapon; I just wanted to make sure, so ty.

I don't have any other 5* bows so I'm going with Amos

[trim stream]

guys when is the new archon dropping??

[dull smelt]

thoughts on my chasca?

[rugged sparrow]

my condolences

[flat drum]

In this rotation:
Neuvi E > Furina E > Xilonen E [Q] N2 > Kazuha E [Q] > Furina Q > Neuvi CA

Why does Neuvi not charged attack after first E? Or rather, why not E at the end and then charged attack?

[rugged sparrow]

because he wouldn't be buffed at first CA
because it'll make more orbs spawn and Neuv doesn't prioritze older orbs for CA

[flat drum]

Neuv's first E can make more orbs? Or you mean when he can do a second E there's more orbs?

[rugged sparrow]

the latter, and it's problematic because what can happen is
you use CA and it picks up 2 orbs from 2nd E, and 1 orb from 1st E

[sage sail]

hat does absolutely nothing except for main stat, flower is bad, feather is pretty bad, the sands is good, the goblet is decent for on set

[rugged sparrow]

then the orbs from 1st E expired (2 of them), leaving you only 1 orb for the next CA

[keen willow]

My chasca is going 105cr with harp

[rugged sparrow]

his orbs last for 15s, so you just spawn it early so you can do 4CA rotation

[flat drum]

Sorry, basic question that I should know, does CA consume 2 orbs or 3?

[rugged sparrow]

3

[flat drum]

Why does only 2 orbs expire for the first E instead of all 3?

[rugged sparrow]

because of this scenario I just gave

if you use 2x E (from what you suggested), that scenario can happen

you use CA, it randomly picks up the orbs

Neuv use first E > start countdown for 3 orbs
support rotation, give or take 10s
you use 2nd E > countdown for another 3 orbs
you use CA > it randomly picks 1 orb from first E and 2 from 2nd E
orbs from first E expired
now you're sad cuz you only have 1 orb left on the field

[flat drum]

ty makes sense now

[native kindle]

why is genshin downloading 7gb for the new update

[neon harness]

New region idk

[lyric cargo]

Flower, Plume, and Circlet didn't roll many useful substats
keep farming the domain imo

[bright cape]

i keep seeing these weird symbols. what are they supposed to do?

[quaint fern]

@opal surge I was asking in gcsim server and they came up with this

for let i=0; i<5; i=i+1 {
  xilonen burst;
  furina skill, burst;
  xilonen skill, attack:2;
  pick_up_crystallize("any");
  chiori skill:2;
  ganyu skill, burst, aim:2;
  xilonen skill, attack:2;
  pick_up_crystallize("any");
  ganyu aim:2, skill, aim;
  if .chiori.burst.ready {
    chiori burst;
  } else {
    ganyu aim;
  }

I would have never thought to put xilo burst first

[opal surge]

its good for earlier fanfare stacks

[quaint fern]

Ye

[opal surge]

to xilo burst before furina uptime

[quaint fern]

I didn't think about it because I'm used to healers having a big healing burst

But xilo doesn't have that

(and I forgot that xilo doesn't do party wide LOL)

I guess you swap back into her for another round fo fav triggers

[opal surge]

I have no clue how ganyu rots work if time allows for it swapping xilo is strong

refreshes buffs gives a shitton of particles

hutao plays 2 xilo e's as well for example

[quaint fern]

Oh okay

I'm pretty clueless on rotation building in general wwwww

[quaint fern]

Ganyu doesn't really have set rotations which is nice I guess

Normally you just on field her while all the buffs are up, traditional hyper carry style

[narrow folio]

Classic Ganyu player

[sour hollow]

if you do the charge attack thing with the dinosaur ur currently using, it will let you jump twice as high for a limited amount of time

[bright cape]

oh thanks.

[fair urchin]

Is earth shaker the best f2p weapon on navia?
My team in navia kachina Bennet xl
I currently have r4 tidal but no furina so rarely trigger the passive with benne

[haughty lotus]

Yes

[neon harness]

for ororon
alley hunter/lyney sig + er sands or fav + atk sands

[fair urchin]

Are these good for any character?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean, double crit pieces are instant lock

4p Noblesse DPS users are usually like Rosaria, Xingqiu, Kaeya, etc
the HP sands is likely gonna end up as an off-piece, though

[keen willow]

All of these in one strongbox? Wtf

[fair urchin]

Yeah and got one more after tht

[rugged sparrow]

insane luck

[keen willow]

Fake account

[fair urchin]

Idk why genshin gives me broken artifacts of sets which I don't want

[rugged sparrow]

why are you strongboxing Noblesse if you don't want it then

[fair urchin]

I want hp er piece

For benne

No crit

[dusty cape]

you cursed the rolls on all of those

[fair urchin]

It seems so

[fair urchin]

Wait ill roll them

[fair urchin]

Out of material but so far seems good

[fair urchin]

This too seems good maybe a furina off piece?

[neon harness]

depends on how it rolls

[ebon phoenix]

Guys, amos or chain breaker for chasca?

[quaint fern]

vro I never get atk goblets

[rugged sparrow]

unluck

[opal surge]

Amos is slightly better but its passive doesn't actually work on chasca

[feral reef]

@haughty lotus vro should i get chasca

or is she mid af

[lyric cargo]

how do you balance abyss vs overworld?

[strange scarab]

did he even pull her

[lyric cargo]

I'd say get Ororon at least, his hold spacebar to superjump + hover is nice for exploration

I got Chasca on my asia alt. the only thing is, she's a single target dps

[haughty lotus]

Mid and objectively worst design in all of hoyoverse

[strange scarab]

i have her and i hate her

[haughty lotus]

Unbased and based ✅

[feral reef]

i see

[opal surge]

I have her and I'm considering getting c1

[feral reef]

ill get neuv instead

[strange scarab]

mid skip

[lyric cargo]

I'm skipping, but only because I didn't get her early and I don't trust that 400 wishes saved will be enough

still considering to get c1 Neuv

[feral reef]

im thinking of getting him, but sca red they decide to have some powercreep trip
but they havent really so far? so maybe its fine

[lyric cargo]

also, Chasca is dependent on Furina Bennett at least for now

not sure I'll want to run Neuv without Furina on the other side, he'll probably want her

[haughty lotus]

Does it really matter vlud, he’ll still vhit on abyss

[feral reef]

hmm true my g

ill just see whats on the livestream

[opal surge]

why doesnt this work for me

[neon wave]

did you use the skill and align it with the opening?

[opal surge]

yeah

Tried moving around for minutes now changing time etc

A few people on interactive map seem to have the same issue

[neon wave]

Do you get a line of dialogue when walking closer to the chest? It should mention "hearing a pitter patter" or something like that

[opal surge]

no

does that mean i maybe already did it and I dont remember it

[rugged sparrow]

there should be a chest there no

why do I not see it in your image

[opal surge]

oh i guess i did it already then

i figured the chest would spawn in after the mobs

[neon wave]

minute 2:50

https://youtu.be/MdkNFYvTc4g?si=yD8_Lez4S9VHgCHo

I'm at work and people keep bothering me instead of letting me be on discord smh

[elder bluff]

just don't work

[neon wave]

I think you might be onto something

[gaunt olive]

can anyone pls show the time trail challenge locations in 5.2
I'm missing 1

[gaunt olive]

thanks

[versed mortar]

guys what do u do with that

[fringe scroll]

how do i do thiss

[spice trellis]

Is ororon better than fischl for chasca 🤔

[lyric cargo]

I believe so

but also, he brings good overworld utility if you're using the team there (not abyss)

for Natlan in particular, but also outside Natlan
(you can hold spacebar to do a high jump and hover for a bit. nice for climbing.)

[crude dirge]

take the key on left, free the lil dino, talk to big dino and just do it

also whats better option for phys freminet
wolfs gravestone or dragonspine claymore

[strange scarab]

dragonspine claymore is shit on anyone even the phys ones

[crude dirge]

also he got 2.2k atk on 50 lvl

AYY I JUST GOT LAST CRIMSON OBSIDIAN FRAGMENT

[crude dirge]

should I make pale flame sands for my qiqi/freminet/razor

[cedar flint]

depends do you plan to run 4 piece pale flame

[crude dirge]

already made them and they r kinda bad
also im gonna use 2pc2pc pale flame and shim

[cedar flint]

ye than it wasn’t worth it

[crude dirge]

neither of sands i made in 5.2 were rlly good (shim and pale flame)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063698629833007145/1309895223186559116/character_info_overview.png?ex=67433e7d&is=6741ecfd&hm=0772de96d230e354a6b25086a28fcf66dc0a8192cae3e9f03a8cf61b86a3606b&

[crude dirge]

not that big of a difference tbh

[crude dirge]

but c0 qiqi??

https://tenor.com/view/tuxedo-cat-uni-stare-look-cat-gif-10563445165587254274

what kind of magic did u use to have c0 qiqi

[cedar flint]

it’s called c4 tighnari

[dark shadow]

What are good chasca teams?

[strange scarab]

chacha bennett furina ororon

[lyric cargo]

Furina and Bennett are the chars she wants on pretty much every team, so far
then there are.. Ororon? Shenhe? Layla? Fischl?

You can drop one bullet and play Xiangling, it improves your AoE but you trade some of Chasca's damage for it unless you have c1/c2

you can kinda adapt her team to the content you're facing, like elemental shields or the Tulpa in abyss right now

[quaint fern]

Shen who???

[nocturne comet]

Who’s a fourth slot for Chasca?
I’m running Ei and my test runs with placeholder pieces are actually working

[versed mortar]

How do u know the right order before ?

[late blade]

Turn into a Saurian and talk to the iktomisaur

[fiery wigeon]

alright i dont have emile and i dont wana run xiangling with deep wood memories so would this be a valid team?

[jolly junco]

nahida doesn't really do much

[fiery wigeon]

its just to have someone to hold the deep wood set as ik that will buff kinnichs personal damage as i dont have emile

[jolly junco]

why dont you want to run it on xiangling

then use a good last slot like furina

[fiery wigeon]

oh yeah thats true furina is based and red pilled

you are actually einstien rn, ty

[nocturne comet]

As far as I know, Bennet and Furina are mandatory
Maybe electro flex for the last slot?

[jolly junco]

you're welcome

[haughty lotus]

Ororon, xiangling, shenhe, layla

[nocturne comet]

No Shenhe yet but I can do Xiangling

[lyric cargo]

I probably wouldn't get Shenhe just for Chasca

if you don't already have her

is this for overworld? if so, Ororon probably gives you the best utility

[nocturne comet]

I’ve already wanted her for my Ayaka team

[nocturne comet]

Really?? Alrighty then!

[lyric cargo]

yeah, in Natlan you can jump up on him and nightsoul transmission to Chasca
then use her skill to fill her nightsoul points and fly horizontally

if Chasca runs out of points and you want to keep flying, nightsoul transmission to Ororon
glide for a bit using the height he gained
after 10 seconds, you can swap back to chasca and use her skill mid-air again

I'd say Chasca is good at covering horizontal distance, but loses a lot of points if she tries to go up or down

Ororon fixes that

[narrow folio]

Now if only he could fix that goofy ass outfit he has on

[narrow folio]

Well seeing as how she hasn't been released yet and no official information is known about her, no idea

[bright cape]

oh my bad

yah. that was a foolish question

i just wanted all female archon team

[foggy phoenix]

when building kuki for tighnari and nahida aggravate should i build her on em or no

[lyric cargo]

use Xilonen, the geo archon

[lyric cargo]

technically you could build her with dmg% and crit

[bright cape]

nah lumine works the best for this one boss i am fighting

[lyric cargo]

or hp% hp% healing bonus
but I never bothered

she heals enough with EM / EM / EM that I didn't make a build for it

[bright cape]

Ironbeard

[foggy phoenix]

im just looking for a execuse to not farm for a em goblet atp

[lyric cargo]

ah

use whatever tbh
and focus on the chars who are dealing the majority of the damage in the team

[bright cape]

u don't have to get onset.

2pc 2pc em also works decent

[lyric cargo]

I've been grinding strongbox on my asia alt for the same

yes, alley flash was my highest EM sword, leveled it because it'll be ok on Bennett later

[foggy phoenix]

i only have 1 em goblet on my acc which is on kazuha

[lyric cargo]

you got an on-set em circlet and sands already?

[foggy phoenix]

i have 4 em circlets and like 7 em sands

[lyric cargo]

on-set?

because you can off-piece one of them

so grinding any domain will give you that, eventually

like i did on my kuki above

every time you get a new piece, it's:
1/200 chance for an EM goblet
1/125 chance for an EM circlet
1/50 chance for an EM sands

if you get on-set for either goblet or circlet, you can use an off-piece for the other

[foggy phoenix]

how come ive been grinding deepwood domain for almost a month now and spent 20 fragile and still no em goblets

[lyric cargo]

randomness 😦

you grinded the domain?

I don't consider it efficient anymore
gilded dreams is optimal on so few chars

and when it is, it barely beats 2pc 2pc

[foggy phoenix]

yeah cuz i need deepwood for nahida and gilded for 2 pc for kuki

and also for collei

[lyric cargo]

I went straight for flower of paradise lost
since it's on strongbox now

depends on what else you need to strongbox of course

but I'm farming either Marechausse / Golden Troupe for Neuv / Furina
or Codex / Scroll of the hero for Natlan chars

deepwood, on my asia alt I just gave nahida a basic 4-piece

doesn't need to be great to apply the dendro res shred

[foggy phoenix]

ngl im skipping all natlan charcs bc of how less i lack good 5*

im waiting rn for furina and yelan

[lyric cargo]

I skipped Kinich and Mualani
didn't need more on-fielders

pulled for Xilonen, supports are always easy to justify for me

I'd have been ok with Chasca since she's pretty unique, if I got her early
so I pulled for Ororon
but didn't get her before soft pity, so I'm waiting now. Might get her on a rerun

[foggy phoenix]

i wouldve pulled for xilonen if nahidas banner wasnt right after + the 4* were dogshit

only limited 5* i have rn are kazuha nahida and raiden (which i regret)

[lyric cargo]

5*?

[foggy phoenix]

yea

[narrow folio]

Raiden I can understand but Kazuha and Nahida are good value pulls

[lyric cargo]

I figured it was referring to only Raiden

[narrow folio]

I see

Valid then, Raiden hasn't been good for a while

[full sonnet]

Then you xilonen who's Bennet and kazuha combined

[narrow folio]

Bennett and Xilonen don't share the same functions

Like at all

[full sonnet]

She increases attack and team heals

What are you talking about

[narrow folio]

She shreds resistance

[full sonnet]

She increases attack with her tracks

She can even give crit damage

[opal surge]

At c2, sure

at c2 she gives pyro characters attack, thats not quite the same

she also gives less than half of bennets attack buff

[full sonnet]

She doesn't need that constellation that constellation just makes all buffs active

[opal surge]

:clue:

[narrow folio]

Cluegi

[full sonnet]

So you don't need specific characters

[opal surge]

thats not actually how it works

[full sonnet]

[narrow folio]

Needing cons just to be worse than Bennett

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen's own kit does one thing, 36% res shred at talent level 10
that's it

she also heals

and can hold Scroll of the Hero to give a 40 dmg% buff

it's basically Kazuha but with healing instead of grouping

[narrow folio]

And she also doesn't team heal, it's ST

[quaint fern]

@opal surge this is so funny LOL
https://gcsim.app/sh/QNgDJLcTPhNJ
https://gcsim.app/sh/M89GQkmrDNwG

I try to fix the energy error and it's lower dps than just waiting for particles

imo gcsim is way too strict with their energy anyways

[narrow folio]

Just get C4 Furina

[quaint fern]

there's no way furina at 211 ER isn't enough

[lyric cargo]

I think you might call her "Bennett + kazuha" if you think Bennett is about the heal? 🤔
but Bennett's main thing is not the heal, but the ~1000 flat atk buff, Xilonen doesn't buff atk at all

[narrow folio]

Exactly

[quaint fern]

are you gonna pay for it

[opal surge]

furina ER reqs in solo hydro are really high

[narrow folio]

I already paid for one, I can't do it again

[quaint fern]

I think it's more to do with fav RNG

and exactly when it procs and when it picks up

[narrow folio]

What if she's C4?

[quaint fern]

207 in my usage has been sufficient but gcsim wants like 216

[opal surge]

then youre a whale

[narrow folio]

That's a pretty accurate observation

[quaint fern]

okay but what if I got c6 ganyu instead of c4 furina

[narrow folio]

I'm actually terrible and gauging ER reqs, I kinda just eyeball it

[narrow folio]

What if you got both

[quaint fern]

gcsim is pretty strict about energy from my usage

[jolly junco]

you know you can just set the energy drops to whatever you want right

[quaint fern]

I wouldn't really put too much trust in gcsim for energy calculation, it's a bit conservative

[quaint fern]

I got bonked in gcsim discord the other day for having them too frequent LOL

[jolly junco]

[narrow folio]

Real shit?

[opal surge]

well standardization exists for comparison, for personal calcs standardization matters little

[quaint fern]

yeah if I tighten up the energy drops it's not an issue

from 8-12s per drop to 9.7-10.3spd

[jolly junco]

look i fixed it

[quaint fern]

LOL

nice one

[jolly junco]

https://gcsim.app/sh/wKP7njfhpD8B

damn bro you gained a whole 400 dps

[quaint fern]

yeah usually for personal calcs I just ignore energy on simming and just use ERC

[narrow folio]

It's massive

[keen willow]

Thats what

[quaint fern]

i said

[narrow folio]

True

[quaint fern]

I just gotta get a decent hp sands with ER sub 😔

that's the reason why I'm still farming GT

430 RV

[narrow folio]

Farm for a Ganyu upgrade

[quaint fern]

-100k resin

+3 CD

[narrow folio]

Perfectly balanced

[full sonnet]

Defense

[lyric cargo]

5 rolls of crit, is what I'd focus on

[full sonnet]

Can having furina on a Hu Tao team be bad if you're just using a shield?

No zhongli only Thoma and layla

[lyric cargo]

Furina's buff would be lost, without a healer

[full sonnet]

I think it's furina xinqui thoma

[lyric cargo]

no Xilonen, no Xianyun?

no Bennett?

I guess Jean could work as well

[full sonnet]

She wants to be low hp

That'd be bad wouldn't it

I like using Jean with basic attack characters for that extra attack speed

[lyric cargo]

part of her kit wants her to be, but it's less than Furina buffs by having healers

[full sonnet]

It mite be overkill but I think I just wanted vaporize I have yelan

🫰

Oops my hand slipped

I think I used yelan legitimately 2 times

I just didn't feel like using her when I already have xinqui

[haughty lotus]

xD

🪣👍

[brittle escarp]

That's a weird looking dog

[quaint fern]

I keep saying to myself that ER with >30 CV isn't that hard to get but I still haven't gotten it LOL

[lyric cargo]

one day I'll return to MH / GT domain

[quaint fern]

My MH is kinda dookie too so that's another reason why I'm in

[lyric cargo]

there was a point where I wanted to go for Neuv's signature, which would've meant getting him a cr circlet

since it looks to be with Zl's.. I think I'll skip it for now

[quaint fern]

Oh yeah, is VV reruning

o7 neuvi weapon wanters

[stone snow]

Can someone please help me I’m trying to do abyss floor 12 and feel like I’m banging my head against a wall

[quaint fern]

Sure

Just putting this here for reference
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1263156461345964052/1307636250844598272/5.1.png?ex=67439868&is=674246e8&hm=d84f35ad650f0a84bfb5182bb65662cc477e4ef13660a8aa5234d906e9576386&

There aren't really any checks in this abyss besides DPS and bow for 2nd half

If you need team help, we can do that

However, we can't really do anything if you don't have the requisite investment

[lyric cargo]

what teams are you trying to use? got a screenshot of your char list?

[stone snow]

Hi! I sent you a dm

[unkempt river]

Which quest brings you through Ochkanatlan and how do you get it?

[bright cape]

i triggerred it when i reached statue of seven there

i was just trying to uncover all the map

[unkempt river]

aight ty!

[lyric cargo]

hey! can't you post it here? there are more people who'd help

[quaint fern]

;-; just send it here, nothing to hide

[full sonnet]

Do not

[forest venture]

[forest venture]

if you feel like you're insecure to show your character roster, i'll let you know that someone here was even daring to ask for crit dps venti team and still not canceled

[limber light]

Does he need more Crit rate? I could probably farm for a feather for crit rate, but idk

[quaint fern]

Crit venti is better than em venti at high investment right?

It's just that we don't recommend doing it

[forest venture]

yea i'd use the build in mono-anemo or single target heavy content too

[violet cipher]

I need more Mora but I don't want to waste too much of my resin/time with ley line outcrops, is there any better or equivalent way to get mora?

[marble fern]

anemo or atk gob for chasca?

[rugged sparrow]

atk

[fiery steeple]

hi I'm having a weird problem, I'm exploring the quahuacan cliff region to 100% but after exploring the whole area I'm stuck at 89% is there anywhere I'm missing?

[neon harness]

did you use a guide (interactive map or somthing else) for the exploration?

[fiery steeple]

ya

this is what I looks like for me

[full sonnet]

Some areas have hidden waypoints you need to play quest to unlock

[fiery steeple]

is that the areas I'm missing?

[full sonnet]

I have no idea

Just a thought

[fiery steeple]

bc I did all the quests for the flower feather clan and masters of the night wind alr

[full sonnet]

Have you done the pillar world quest it opens a big hole in the ground

[fiery steeple]

tf?

[full sonnet]

I remember there being like 2 waypoints under it

[fiery steeple]

where is that

I'm missing 3 waypoints :/

[full sonnet]

You'll see it it's the big yellow things

[fiery steeple]

in quahuacan cliff?

[full sonnet]

Could you zoom out a bit

[fiery steeple]

in the chest map?

[full sonnet]

Yes

I know what the area looks like but I don't know what it's called

[fiery steeple]

above the area for the masters of the night wind

[forest venture]

the data needs to flourish. the region is still new

[fiery steeple]

ah k

[forest venture]

everything is contrtibuted by players

[fiery steeple]

does the official map have everything?

[full sonnet]

Hmm if it's in an area to the left of the city I don't know but to the right I see it

Right above that green chest those two big islands

[rugged sparrow]

shrine / tribal secret space

have you opened them

[fiery steeple]

for night wind yes for flower feather no

[rugged sparrow]

open them then, easy 100%

[full sonnet]

Do all tribes have secret areas

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[full sonnet]

Like the one where you need a ticket to get in or one from completing the pink quests

[fiery steeple]

I'm missing a fragment

[rugged sparrow]

how about shrine, have you opened

[fiery steeple]

and I found a quest to the right of the flower feather clan

[rugged sparrow]

Ochkanatlan chests count for Flower-Feather Obsidian Rings cuz yes

[fiery steeple]

1/2

[fiery steeple]

bruh

[rugged sparrow]

same

[dark shadow]

There’s a home base for our saurian companion?

[tame walrus]

It's that icon

[dark shadow]

Thx i was looking for it. Read somewhere it was near scions of the canopy but it was way off where it’s actually nearest to

[ruby canopy]

Yo guys how's my furina?

[fiery steeple]

thanks I got the bracelet and 100% the area

[narrow folio]

Kinda low on crit rate, crit damage, and ER

HP could use work too honestly

Also you should definitely bring her to level 90

[ruby canopy]

She is level 70 still and I am getting really trashy artifacts for her. And she has level 1 weapon on her. What about her crit dmg? I can't get good rolls

[narrow folio]

Well it's RNG, there's not much you can do about that

Focus on leveling her and her weapon first then worry about artifacts

[ruby canopy]

Thanks man

[thin current]

Guys

What the heck happened to memories flowing with color act 2

It was different yesterday

It made me do the colour puzzle inside the cave after opening the colour cave

Now it says to go back to toltec snd do it later

[crude dirge]

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which do I use?

[strange scarab]

none

[crude dirge]

erm

53:148 or 59:146 crits

[tame walrus]

Needs mo' hp / er

[crude dirge]

60:152 on first one now

[lyric cargo]

It was about being not sure how to show it, since they play on PS4

[lyric cargo]

#📌gimshim-help message

[lyric cargo]

What's the current max statue level in Natlan? (+leftover oculi if you know)

[jolly junco]

7 + 5 extra

[knotty sphinx]

what do i do here?

[rugged sparrow]

it's related to the Ochkanatlan quest, did you do it

[knotty sphinx]

oh not yet

[elder bluff]

yep, it is for the world quest

[frozen obsidian]

To those using Furina for Chasca, which weapon are you guys using? ER sands instead of HP then?

[opal surge]

You are almost certainly wanting to use fav, I'm currently running fav and er sands personally, although I imagine I'm a bit over the er needed

[tame walrus]

Does Fav proc on her pets off field?

[opal surge]

No

Fav doesn't proc offfield in general

[frozen obsidian]

Dang. I'm barely at 200 ER with ER sands, so fav it is then. But like you, I'll be overcapped for ER as well when I switch her to ER + Fav.

Might have to switch ororon to ER sands as well since he has 0 ER subs at the moment

[opal surge]

You can try and see if it's enough for you at 200 without fav, as long as it works it works

[jolly junco]

I tried it in abyss and fav furina with 230 er was barely managing with only furina on favonius

[frozen obsidian]

ER calc says it'll be a struggle lol

[jolly junco]

[frozen obsidian]

Also, what am I doing wrong here

[jolly junco]

remove the red press

put 15 flat energy in his section

9 from passive and 6 from scroll

8? more if c4

[frozen obsidian]

My guy is c0

Yep. He def needs ER sand then

[jolly junco]

you can also use favonius on him

cuz his damage share isn't that high and everyone apart from chasca needs a lot of er

[frozen obsidian]

So fav over chainbreaker r5?

[jolly junco]

well it's worse for his personal damage

[opal surge]

Yeah that's my experience too

[frozen obsidian]

Gotcha. Her teams needs a lot of ER @ C0 sheesh. I'm only using her since I got lucky with the banner while fishing for Ororon--she is pretty fun tho ngl.

[jolly junco]

I was actually struggling with ororon at 150 er as well cuz of killing the second wave halfway through the second rotation

[frozen obsidian]

C0?

[jolly junco]

my chasca isn't fully built yet but i wouldnt have enough damage to one rotate then anyway

[jolly junco]

I have c3 ororon, this doesnt give any extra energy for him compared to c0

[frozen obsidian]

My chasca only has 2 pc atk% at the moment since I didn't spend much time on her domain

[frozen obsidian]

Gotcha. At least his ER requirement isn't high compared to Furina and Benny (if you're using him--also, most of us have high ER Benny anyways).

[jolly junco]

yeah I have 320 er with skyward

[opal surge]

[jolly junco]

I think i'll just put ororon on favonius until I get c4, at least for this team

[elder bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[frozen obsidian]

Wish I had 320 ER for benny lmao

[wind hearth]

My friend got an Amos bow on a acc where there is no good bow dps and already had Skyward Harp. Welp ._.

Is Skyward harp better or Amos bow for Sethos?

Can keep the other one on fischl if use one on Sethos.

[opal surge]

I don't have resources to build ororon, so I'm pretty much just playing xilonen most of the time for now

[lyric cargo]

considering to gamble for c4?

[opal surge]

At least she's on fav

[jolly junco]

Yes

I don't really mind an early c1 chasca

her c1 is pretty good

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I agree

[frozen obsidian]

Chasca spooked me and took my guarantee lmao.

[lyric cargo]

I stopped at 73 pity since I didn't get her early
if I got her, I'd have probably kept going
more ororons, some chance at c1

[opal surge]

If sethos is played optionally harp should be better, but you can use slingshot on sethos, harp on fischl and save Amos for when you get a charged attacker

[frozen obsidian]

Tempted to empty my store since the bonus was reset.. but I really should just save what I have for Mavuika and top up if needed.

[opal surge]

I'm currently losing my mind trying to fish for an extra 5 bullet charged attack on chasca, I'm starting to doubt if it's possible

[wind hearth]

Sethos burst mode usually or in hyperbloom+quicken sort of teams with him

My friend doesnt likes any bow dps in general so i can probably imagine amos bow will get benched forever :"(

[wind hearth]

If only Mika had charged atk speed buff

[opal surge]

It do be like that sometimes

[lyric portal]

What could I use for abyss floor 12?

[jolly junco]

ok it fixes it

[frozen obsidian]

how much ER do you have with fav? I'm assuming you're on atk sands?

[jolly junco]

he doesnt actually need this much but i dont have good cinder pieces

[frozen obsidian]

yeah, he needs 171 according to the calc.

[jolly junco]

he doesn't need to build any if using favonius

[frozen obsidian]

sad to see low personal damage, but it's better than having a non-optimal rotation

[jolly junco]

I still think over building ER on furina is the right play because she doesn't frontload particle generation

so you're not bricked if you start the next chamber if you end halfway through a rotation

[quaint fern]

wow are chasca teams really taht energy deprived?

[frozen obsidian]

I emulated yours and it looks better. I was getting 171 ER earlier lmao.

[quaint fern]

for a more conservative estimate change the 0.3 to 0.25

[jolly junco]

0.3 is already conservative

[frozen obsidian]

Messing with that doesn't seem to change any of the values...

[jolly junco]

and yes

[quaint fern]

oh nvm you're using safe rng

[frozen obsidian]

Because at C0 we want full on PECH.

[opal surge]

Safe doesn't change much anyway

Chasca teams are rainbow teams that's why they're energy starved

[jolly junco]

its not really a problem if your artifacts are good enough and you have favonius weapons, cuz chasca doesn't need to burst every rotation and has a lot of personal damage

[opal surge]

By nature everyone is solo element in them

[jolly junco]

might be an issue for new players though

[quaint fern]

yeah i'm gonna be anal about gcsim being too conservative on ER with standard assumptions

[opal surge]

[quaint fern]

my furina needs like 10 extra ER to make it happy

and this is with already conservative 0.25 particles/sec on her pets

only way I see it messing up is if the fav actually feeds to ganyu

which in that case it's 225

[opal surge]

I mean er reqs are meant to hold up even in worst case

Fav doesn't proc, hp particles are delayed etcetc

[quaint fern]

I think it's just her fav rng being funny

in most cases it shouldn't really be an issue with like 70 CR r5 fav

[opal surge]

I don't want to squeeze out 2 more substats if that means I don't get burst back 5% of the time

[quaint fern]

most of the time it'll trigger on the 1st/2nd hit which should get picked up by furina

[opal surge]

I'd rather get burst back 100% of the time

[quaint fern]

yeah I think it's just bc gcsim is single target so it's more sensitive to fav rng

[opal surge]

The damage diff of doing a couple more er substats is negligible anyways

[quaint fern]

I've personally never had the issue of furina not having her burst up in abyss

[opal surge]

You probably also don't play perfect rotations

Or we'll, play them as tightly as gcsim does

[quaint fern]

but that might just be becuase I'm playing against aoe content with the freeze team so more particles

[opal surge]

Humans play slower than gcsim does, so furina generates more particles in practice

[quaint fern]

yeah true, they do it pretty much frame perfect

[opal surge]

Since U have more time in practice

[quaint fern]

mhm

[frozen obsidian]

@jolly junco can I see your Benny build?

[quaint fern]

this is a pretty standard one

if i really need the ER, I can always forgo some atk and go with skyward blade

but 246 is enough for pretty much every team

[jolly junco]

er/hp/healing bonus on 4pc noblesse

[frozen obsidian]

Mine pretty much matches that with a little bit more ER. I'm just curious about Lemon's because his has 320 ER

[quaint fern]

you're on skyward right?

[jolly junco]

currently yes

with mistsplitter it's this

[frozen obsidian]

I haven't been blessed with neither aquila nor skyward pride so I'm stuck with sapwood

[lyric cargo]

nice circlet

[quaint fern]

I can pump ER higher but I sacrifice healing, also weird atk goblet LOL

[lyric cargo]

I find myself considering to run 2pc scroll 2pc emblem on Bennett when I need 300%+ and I can't build it on noblesse

[quaint fern]

no skyward?

[lyric cargo]

only sapwood

[quaint fern]

probably would be a lower loss in dps to go skyward than lose 4 NO

[frozen obsidian]

Oh.. I thought my Benny had at least 250 ER

[quaint fern]

o7, you'll get it one of these days

[lyric cargo]

I've been strongboxing a bit more noblesse, maybe I get blessed with ER rolls

[quaint fern]

yeah I'm boxing to try to get a better atk goblet rn but no dice

[frozen obsidian]

I confused my XL's ER to Benny's 💀

[quaint fern]

I still need to pick up a little bit of ER on this build

[lyric portal]

What could I use for the floor 12

[quaint fern]

you'll want to bring a bow 2nd half, other than that not any elemental checks

here it is for reference

[lyric cargo]

just
not mono hydro for the tulpa

[quaint fern]

yeah just not mono tulpa

I've suggested this in the past but if you're having difficulty on tulpa you can just come back to the chamber with hu tao and xiangling on the same party

and you get infinite vapes bc there's permanant hydro aura

[lyric portal]

What teams could I use 🦭

[quaint fern]

I wouldn't really recommend bringing yoimiya to 2nd half unless you're skilled enough to dodge/accept having to reset if you get vaped inside bennett circle

pretty much anything works (except mono hydro for 2nd half) as long as you have enough dps

I'd just play whatever you're comfortable with

[lyric portal]

I tried mono hydro on the 2nd half on my first try forgetting the tulpa

[quaint fern]

I'd probably just slap neuvi on 1st half and then do whatever you want on 2nd half

[lyric portal]

It was not nice

[rugged sparrow]

well now try something else not monohydro

[quaint fern]

^

[lyric cargo]

resetting second half is rough

[quaint fern]

this abyss isn't really hard tbh

just dps check

[rugged sparrow]

ider what I even used

[lyric portal]

Hu tao and yelan?

[quaint fern]

this was one of the easier abysses in a while

[lyric portal]

Yelan is a bow

[quaint fern]

you can go with this, but keep in mind yelan does nothing versus tulpa

[rugged sparrow]

monogeo and Kleemilie

[lyric portal]

I wish I had zhongli so I could monogeo

[quaint fern]

@lyric portal do you just need chamber 3?

[rugged sparrow]

I mean you can just play a normal aggravate team 2nd half then have free hyperbloom procs on tulpa

[frozen obsidian]

Realizing my Benny's low ER and trying to fix it..

[quaint fern]

in that case the easiest thing to do is probably just play something like tao fischl xiangling flex

[lyric portal]

Yes

[rugged sparrow]

^

[quaint fern]

thoma might help if you're having issues getting hit by tulpa, he could make your life a bit easier

but it shouldn't really be an issue if you just bring mono pryo which turns into vape

neuvi should make 1st half a piece of cake

[lyric portal]

I only have trouble forming teams with my characters, I don’t know how to use them together, all I do is explore with Raiden and kokomi

[frozen obsidian]

Okay, better.

[lyric portal]

I’m trying the abyss to get primos for Chasca, I never done 12th floor

[quaint fern]

yeah you're missing some key supports

you have neuvi but not really any of his notable supports besides xilonen

[lyric portal]

That’s why I don’t know what I could use 😞

[quaint fern]

you could always try cyno but idk how he holds up in abyss today

cyno nahida kuki fischl 2nd half

[rugged sparrow]

or just Yae instead of Cyno

either or works depending on investment

[quaint fern]

you need to level a shielder/dehya for neuvi btw

[lyric portal]

I didn’t like kuki so I never leveled her…

🦭

[quaint fern]

you can go EM raiden, but no healer is hard

I would recommend lvl 90 kuki asap

[lyric portal]

They are leveled up very big, I just rotate support and dps builds between yae Raiden and cyno (I only have builds for two of them)

I don’t have any mora or artifacts feeders

[quaint fern]

for neuvi I'd honestly just build kirara or layla and go neuvi (kirara or layla) xilonen flex, flex can be miko, 300 ER xiangling, beidou, fischl (but she's used on other team so don't bother),

you will find abyss 12 hard

if you're at 5 stars right now, try just geting one

if you're at 2 stars, just try getting one

pushing any futher is probably wasting your time if your characters aren't up to snuff

[lyric portal]

I got them good weapons and leveled everything else on them

[quaint fern]

it's an issue of how good the build is

hyperbloom neuvi is always an option too

neuvi raiden (use em build for her, not 4 EoSF) nahida layla/kirara

I can tell that your account is probably not properly prepared for abyss 12 from the levels of some pretty key units: kuki, bennett, xiangling, fischl, xingqiu, sucrose, neuvi

[lyric portal]

If I go cyno team on the 2nd half

What do I go for in the first

[rugged sparrow]

just Neuv

[quaint fern]

I've given you two team cores you can try

#📌gimshim-help message
#📌gimshim-help message

you'll have to actually build some of these characters but you still should have three weeks to do abyss

[lyric portal]

I can level up kuki to at least 70 with the resources I had for chasca

[quaint fern]

and I cannot stress enough, if you go hyperbloom neuvi

raiden **MUST **be on em/em/em dragonsbane lvl 90

that's non negotiable

[lyric portal]

Okayss

Tyyy

[quaint fern]

wait I just suggested nahida in two teams

nvm just go regular neuvi hyper

this #📌gimshim-help message

forget hyperbloom neuvi

[lyric portal]

Yeah, she is the best dendro I have so far

[quaint fern]

best dendro you have???

she's the best off field dendro period

[inland flicker]

Not exactly a game question but it's just killing my brain. That new Xbox add is using a song I KNOW and I can't remember the name of it. Was it a Mondstadt song? Liyue? Something from one of the festivals?

[jolly junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[inland flicker]

Why bother with that joke?

[opal surge]

can I get a sanity check does this look like I could get a 5th bullet in the 5th CA if I cancel my first CA a bit cleaner than in this clip

it looks like it should be easy or? CA1 and CA4 are uncleanly cancelled but I cannot get the 5th bullet to save my life

[jolly junco]

is it even worth trying to do that because of the first 2-3 anemo bullets

[opal surge]

well you lose nothing, you get 1-2 radiant bullets + 2-3 anemo bullets (depending on team) for free

The first 4 CA's are still 6 bullets

[jolly junco]

yes I see

even when the bullet hasn't loaded into the animation beforehand

[opal surge]

yeah its some nice tech someone shared with me yday, practicing it now

its even nicer if you have c1, since then the 5th CA is guaranteed 3 radiant bullets

[jolly junco]

well I have no idea if it's doable as per your original question

I just hold my mouse button and get 4 charged attacks off

[opal surge]

truly as hoyo intended

[lyric cargo]

is the right one Celestia and the left one Ninguang's?

[jolly junco]

yes I think so

and nice mint picking you're doing there

[lyric cargo]

it's route A investigation

I might look for a natlan route soon, the new area has some promising spots from what I've seen

[jolly junco]

good

we deserve it for them removing our weekly 150k mora from redoing bounties and requests

[lyric cargo]

I'm on to the real mint picking now

just a few spots with multiple elites from one tp though

[crude dirge]

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wfl freminet? wip

[jolly junco]

ilobiywuapsb

[crude dirge]

im COMPLETELY out of resin and mora

[sour birch]

apple this is good if i get sig right

[jolly junco]

yes it's pretty good

I assume you will be using a lot of dmg% buffs

[sour birch]

kaz xilonen furina

doesnt the weapon also give dmg%

[jolly junco]

yes

[sour birch]

yeah im chill on the dmg%

i think that 60/250 crit is pretty good for a triple HP build

[lyric cargo]

yeah
if you can find one more cr roll it'd be perfect
but if your pieces didn't roll that way, that's alright

[sour birch]

there's like 1 roll missed on the whole build and it's def% on the goblet

so i dont think that's super feasible

because there's already cr on every piece

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it's a 5 useful sub goblet
I thought maybe you have another one with like 10% cr 15% cd

but this is good

[lyric cargo]

you'll try to dodge the ZL sig?

[foggy phoenix]

should these be main teams i can like focus on for abyss or no (raiden on the tighnari team is a placeholder until i get fishl

[rugged sparrow]

sure

though abyss occasionally changes so
some elemental/shield checks can be annoying, but should be doable with brute force

[foggy phoenix]

600 primos per cycle is enough for me

i dont need to beat it every cycle

[crude dirge]

whys ur nahida still lvl 70

[foggy phoenix]

bc i still havent built her yet

[crude dirge]

im using almost the same team lol

[sour birch]

yeah

i really need tome lol

[lyric cargo]

was going to say replace Raiden with Ororon for 4pc scroll buff
but I forget he needs a natlan teammate to enter nightsoul state if there's no electro-charged

[foggy phoenix]

i would but uh i dont have ororon

and im not pulling for him

i only have 1800 primos and 44 pity on a 50/50 for neuv

[lyric cargo]

yeah, it would've depended on how you feel about Chasca
and also, it won't work since he won't enter nightsoul state in that team

[fast magnet]

i’m really tempted on pulling chasca, i have guaranteed and i also want mavuika

[opal surge]

can you get a ring fragment for the flower feathers from ochkanatlan?

[neon wave]

yep

[opal surge]

[fast magnet]

should i pull chasca

[neon wave]

I mean
We don't know when Mavu is coming out (or how many pulls you have)
Pick who you like most and prioritize that one

[narrow folio]

Get to exploring

[wraith flame]

What are the upcoming banners? cause i was saving primos for furina but chascas trial was so fun that i want to pull for her but im kinda scared

[narrow folio]

After this banner is Neuvillette and Zhongli, after that we don't have any official information

I'd honestly suggest waiting for Furina

[lyric cargo]

it depends a bit on how much you play, and how much there is left to grind in your world

as someone who plays a lot but with little left to grind
I assume around 35 pulls gained per banner

just build some savings and never go below a certain threshold, tbh
if you're already safely clearing content

[lyric cargo]

as someone who only skims quest dialogue: What is "a suitable gift"?

does it matter?

[dusty cape]

nah

[lyric cargo]

so just whatever I need least, gotcha

[neon wave]

that's a lifetime supply of amakumo fruit

or however it's spelled

[elder bluff]

give beetles

[lyric cargo]

time to wait 3 days for all of it to unlock, I guess

then do everything in one go

[bright cape]

is furina's dmg bonus not very significant at c0?

i was using neuvi, furina, kazuha and kachina yesterday

just kazuha n kachina alone made neuvi hit similar numbers

also no hp drain, so it was comfier

[lyric cargo]

what were her talent levels?

[opal surge]

It's quite signficant especially in that team

[bright cape]

1-10-10

neuvi is c1 and running hydro dmg bonus

[tight verge]

it would take a long time to get stacks without healer

[lyric cargo]

Neuvilette drains and refills a lot of his hp every charge attack
though it should be a somewhat backloaded buff in that case
compared to a situation like Jean instantly healing 50% on everyone at the start of the rotation

[tight verge]

yeah furina c0 it will still be kinda slow

[opal surge]

she does about 750k damage per 28s rotation

can neuvi clear without it? probably,
Is it significant damage? I would say so

[full sonnet]

Where do I aquire almonds in Fontaine

[hardy bone]

Best xilo build?

Teams are (Xilo nahida fischl zhongli) And (xilo gorou kachina yelan) gorou/zhongli on fav . fischl nahida on gt, yelan on emblem n kachina on cinder city

[unkempt river]

Can someone not on Xbox get the xbox wings? Or is it like the ps wings and only useable on said platform?

[rugged sparrow]

ppl will get the wings when 5.3 drops if I'm not mistaken

*ppl from other platforms

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Wings_of_Fate's_Course_Intertwined

[unkempt river]

So me on pc, will get it in 5.3 and be able to use it on pc?

I'll read that ty

[rugged sparrow]

Other platforms can only obtain it during the Version 5.3 event "Wings of Fate's Course Intertwined" Wind Glider Issuance Details.

[rancid cypress]

i didnt know this

[rugged sparrow]

now you know

[rancid cypress]

thanks

[rancid cypress]

also hi been a while

[rugged sparrow]

yes

wasn't expecting you to come back to tavern

[rancid cypress]

i realized this server has some goofy emojis

[rugged sparrow]

[rancid cypress]

also didnt know you still talk here too

[rugged sparrow]

as do george and con

[rancid cypress]

wow

[wet plank]

[pliant light]

My first lvl 90 is Gaming but I need help building him properly

[dusty cape]

so true

[fair urchin]

U2vk5d, id46tv6iciv3guoe8x9i6ud

[wet plank]

[haughty lotus]

wtf yo

[unkempt river]

Could anyone recommend a fun and unconventional team?

[jolly junco]

neuvillette, furina, kazuha, xilonen
nahida, xingqiu, yelan, raiden/kuki

[opal surge]

truly the most unconventional teams of all time

[keen willow]

Kazuha, nahida, xq, benne

[unkempt river]

Yupp hahah

[unkempt river]

Sounds fun enough? On feild kazu to trigger burgeon, FUN!

[keen willow]

Ye, i use sac kazuha

[elder harness]

I've looked at a bunch of Google tutorials. And I can't find the way past this gray rock to save me.
It's for as the Khvararena's Light Shows quest.
Am I missing something?

Sorry if this is the wrong chat, it's the best one I saw to ask for help

[unkempt river]

Do the world quest in that area afaik kvharena of good and evil I think?

[elder harness]

I'm doing it. I can't get past the rock to progress

[unkempt river]

What's the quest objective?

[elder harness]

Continue onward

[unkempt river]

to where

where does the point point? haha

5 meters huh

looks for one of those green fellas

[elder harness]

It looks like it wants me to go towards the boss. But I can't see any of thr green things

And I've tried just going around from the other way, and it just tells me to go on the other side of the rock

[unkempt river]

try this

[elder harness]

Well, the rock isn't gone. But the quest moved forward.
I'm gonna try this after the cutscene.
Thank you.

[unkempt river]

Aight you're welcome!

[gray mulch]

Does anyone know how to get out of a cutscene that's infinitely looping QAQ

[full sonnet]

Did you just quack

[foggy phoenix]

finally i can stop farming deepwood

jesus fucking christ

[lyric cargo]

that's a 4-star

[zenith thicket]

get back to deepwood ur not done

[lyric cargo]

I think the mistake is farming the domain

gilded isn't a good set anymore, and deepwood is in strongbox

we have much more efficient domains now (MH + GT, Codex + Scroll)

most accounts should be able to make use of them, assuming you don't completely skip units like Furina

@foggy phoenix do you have an enka account I can look at? I assume you're building Nahida Xq Kuki?

I wanted to see if you prioritize what I would, for that team

(I only just got my asia account to ar50, so I'm still building those chars myself there right now)

[grand jungle]

can someone please tell me how to do thisa last part

[heavy zealot]

Is Lyney's bow good have him btw

[foggy phoenix]

im only focusing on leveling up nahida rn to lvl 90 xq i just have him on random emblem artifacts lvl 0 bc i lack 4*< artifacts and same with kuki but em pieces

[lyric cargo]

the unit who triggers hyperbloom (kuki) should be the highest priority in a HB team

[foggy phoenix]

my charcters builds are pretty bad i wouldnt recomend someone to like take inspo from them

[lyric cargo]

her lvl90 does a lot

[lyric cargo]

no no, I mean I've probably got a good feeling for what it's like to be where you are right now

these are my current chars on asia
https://enka.network/u/884087020/

I just hear you're focusing on Nahida, which seems not ideal

[quaint fern]

omg my network is so cooked rn that optimizer isn't working

[foggy phoenix]

I'm not building a hb team I'm building raiden national and tighnari agr

[lyric cargo]

oh, alright.

[lyric cargo]

so close, and yet so far

[quaint fern]

perfectly balanced

ignore the extra .2

maybe I'll craft a geo goblet this patch

the state of my geo goblets

[heavy zealot]

Should I craft Lyney a good sands with the type writer

[quaint fern]

we recommend ER/EM sands, damage % goblet, crit/em circlets

how bad is it?

if that's the last piece you need to finish the build then sure, don't worry about the theoretical efficiency

[heavy zealot]

It is the last piece rn the only sands is purple

[quaint fern]

can you send your enka card?

[heavy zealot]

What is that

[quaint fern]

https://enka.network

[heavy zealot]

I don't have one

[quaint fern]

make one

you don't need an account

[sour birch]

can i be done

idk why the image is fucked up

[quaint fern]

if you dont send your build, we can't help you

[heavy zealot]

Don't worry about it I'm gonna craft the last piece and pull his bow

[quaint fern]

i'm more worried that you haven't farmed ENOUGH

if you haven't gotten a single atk sands

but whatever floats your boat

[heavy zealot]

I have to wait for my resin to refill an I did get a sands it was just tragic

Or good if your name is Albedo

[quaint fern]

you do realize we spend months in a single domain to work on a build right?

[heavy zealot]

..... please calm down I know what I'm doing from here

[dusty cape]

[zenith thicket]

how low does the base em have to be for it to be a bad pull?

[quaint fern]

what do you mean?

[zenith thicket]

when the artifact has the 19 em substat should i level it up or no i have zero 4 stars rn 😔 i grind domains just to level up

like i see it sometimes its 23 other times its 16

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

depends on the character, but usually EM isn't a stat that I focus on

em with double crit is nice

but if it's a feather/flower with like CD, ER, atk, em I'd probably just toss it (unless it's a four liner then check for potential 40+ CD by +4ing it)

[zenith thicket]

raiden hyperbloom

[quaint fern]

just level it then

you only care about em

in this case, everything else is "nice to have" but not essential

[zenith thicket]

yeah but im broke on artifacts do i risk it with 19 em or nah

[quaint fern]

I'd roll anything that comes to me with em main stat

are you trying to min max her em?

idt it's worth the effort to min-max it

[zenith thicket]

why wouldnt it be? is there like a falloff

iirc vape had one

[quaint fern]

no but i don't think its worth your resin to chase EM substats

especially becuase you're only rnging for flower and feathers

the point of hyperbloom is that it's very cheap for the amount of dmg you can get out of it

it's not the be all and end all of teams

get a usable hyperbloom set and move on to farming for others

[rancid cypress]

gimshim

[quaint fern]

gimshim

[rancid cypress]

who

ig something i dont know then

ah

all good

[strange scarab]

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tf she doing she shuld be dead

[cobalt imp]

Looks like her death was…

[strange scarab]

ok

[cobalt imp]

Greatly exaggerated.

[fading holly]

this cant be helped w co op right

[strange scarab]

i mean if your co-op partner knows the solution to it then yes they can

[lyric cargo]

the biggest difference when it comes to chars that only care about one stat (EM here) is starting with 4 substats vs 3

with four starting subs, you can roll into it 5 times. together with the starting roll, that's a maximum of 6 rolls.

each roll can be either 70%, 80%, 90%, or 100% of the max value (23.31 EM)

the starting roll doesn't influence the ones that come after it

what matters most is the total number of useful substat rolls on an artifact

[fair urchin]

This guy destroys me

How to defeat him

[elder bluff]

dodge better

[lyric cargo]

co-op might help

local legends are no joke

[fair urchin]

Ohh it didn't take dmg

[swift forge]

which is better support for eula ? c5 bennet or c6 mika ?

[wary vessel]

should chasca prioritize vape dmg over the other ones? i have these 2 sands but idk which one i should use.

[opal surge]

what team do you play

[wary vessel]

furina ororon benny

[opal surge]

put fanfare to 150 and enable bennet burst, disable scroll from ororon if you have it active and use this multitarget

[wary vessel]

ah nice. ok tyty. not that much of a difference ig.

[opal surge]

[fair urchin]

How to get these

[strange scarab]

theres a plate, near the rock, put something in there, enemy appears, beat them, open chest, new enemy appears

[lofty canopy]

can i have some help expolring

[strange scarab]

#👥gimshim-coop

or, alternatively, https://discord.gg/genshinimpact

[lofty canopy]

did it in the other channel

thank u

[crude dirge]

me when Invalid Invite

[strange scarab]

that means you're permabanned

[wary vessel]

tbf they ban over the most tame things so thats normal lol.

[crude dirge]

i was talking about leaks

[wary vessel]

well thats understandable actually.

[crude dirge]

i started chatting only after i found out how to

which was like 2 weeks later after i readed the rules

[wary vessel]

in my case they banned me cuz they had this suggestion channel when xianyun came out. and i suggested that they should give her grouping. then i found out that before release she had grouping, so ig they thought i was saying give her back the grouping soo they banned me lol

[strange scarab]

well if youre smart you shouldnt just casually talk about leaks especially in official servers of a game and how youre not the type to read rules

it wont kill you to just avoid that topic

[crude dirge]

i did read them

prob just forgot some

[dusty cape]

https://tenor.com/view/shironeko-cat-holding-a-flower-shironeko-sleepy-cat-holding-a-flower-silly-cat-sorry-gif-2983801009814780729

[sonic pier]

hii what's the max level of Natlan Table this patch?

[elder bluff]

30

[sonic pier]

what about the statue of seven?

[lyric cargo]

@sonic pier ^

[sonic pier]

alrite tnx ! I only lack those underground or above sky lol 14pcs

bruh

[dull smelt]

is the blackcliff slasher gonna be good for mavuika?

[rugged sparrow]

Blackcliff Weapon in general is just not good on anyone

it's safe to assume it won't be good on Mavuika (whose kit we dont even know )

nor her weapon type

[dull smelt]

fair enough

wait what? i thought she uses greatswods

claymores

[rugged sparrow]

her weapon hasn't been revealed

[dull smelt]

but she used a claymore vs capitano

[rugged sparrow]

Kinich's claymore yes

[dull smelt]

plus that claymore seems to be designed with pyro in mind

[rugged sparrow]

do you think Furina can use Finale of the Deep

[dull smelt]

no idea what that is

[rugged sparrow]

Fontaine craftable sword

[dull smelt]

umm

i dont think so, besides, i dont have her

i think she's good with the fishing weapon

[rugged sparrow]

then why use that same logic/argument

[dull smelt]

because furina is actually out and has been tested

while mavuika has not

[rugged sparrow]

I think you're missing the point

[dull smelt]

ok ok

anyways, what are these for

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-knows-snl-washington's-dream-nate-bargatze-gif-1712690635348172944

[dull smelt]

i was thinking they might end up being a drop from an upcoming weekly boss

[rugged sparrow]

mayhaps

[dull smelt]

what's a good way to farm mora that doesnt include resin? bc i dont have much

[rugged sparrow]

artifact route and recyling them into mora

other than that elite routes ig

[dull smelt]

wait what?

artifact route? What's that?

[rugged sparrow]

it's as its name implies, you just interact with objects that give out artifacts

[dull smelt]

ohhh

i didnt know those respawned

what's teh silver bar under ororon for?

[narrow folio]

Nightsoul

[fair urchin]

Just changed her Weapon
I'm trying to get her good crit ratio turns out 90-100%cr with good CD isn't possible for f2p

Any suggestion guys?

[forest venture]

you just need crit rate, i think your sands can be improved

[fair urchin]

But still is the ideal Cr possible?

[forest venture]

top builds with a non-crit weapon usually goes around 75:200 avg so maybe you can focus more on crit dmg

[wet plank]

Ideally you lean more towards cr though

Missing a nuke on navia is pretty much insta reset if your clear times are tight

[narrow folio]

Your sands and flower could use work, you could probably squeeze out a couple more stats from them

[bright cape]

i cannot wait for her strongbox

[fair urchin]

75 is enough??

[fair urchin]

Yeah thts wht I was thinking

[narrow folio]

Well enough is subjective

Personally "enough" for me is 90+

[fair urchin]

More crits is better than one fluke

[fair urchin]

Yeah I'm trying

[fair urchin]

Same her domain is a pain

[bright cape]

i don't have energy to farm her domain 😭

i am impressed u got that.

u just need a crit weapon now

[fair urchin]

Is there any cr/CD claymore

F2p

[narrow folio]

Blackcliff I guess

[wet plank]

Getting serpent spine from bp and calling it a day would probably be the fastest fix for your build

[bright cape]

do u plan on getting any crit claymores?

[wet plank]

There's not really any good f2p crit weap options for most weapon categories

[fair urchin]

I get the best sodp pieces I swear but not a single good nighttime artifact

[fair urchin]

From the shop??

[narrow folio]

Yeah but I wouldn't reccomend it

[bright cape]

blackcliff is cdmg only

not good for u

[fair urchin]

R1?? Serpent spine

[narrow folio]

Well it gives you crit so... yeah

[wet plank]

Yeah, it gives 22 cr

[fair urchin]

Why

[wet plank]

Pretty shit passive so it just ends up worse than craftable alternatives most of the time

[fair urchin]

Oh got it

[narrow folio]

Shit passive, only really "good" as a statstick

[quaint fern]

Only fleuve and festering count as "crit" weapons

[fair urchin]

This earth shaker works well without needing furina

[bright cape]

by that logic, catch is also crit weapon

[quaint fern]

TRUE

[narrow folio]

I mean it technically is, it just doesn't show up on your stats

[quaint fern]

gotta wait for a fishing claymore to save f2p claymores

[bright cape]

true. i am surprised natlan didn't give us just that

wait we only have claymore remaining

to get from fishing

[quaint fern]

Oh yeah

[quaint fern]

Catalyst too, no?

[narrow folio]

We'll probably get one soon, there's lava fishing holes in the new areas

[bright cape]

oh yah that too

[quaint fern]

Maybe next patch 😔

[bright cape]

makes sense

[narrow folio]

Surely

[quaint fern]

We got a 50/50

[bright cape]

for the last region

i wish end of line was a bit better 😔

[quaint fern]

But historically, only every other fishing weapon has been good

No one uses end of the line

[narrow folio]

I do

[fair urchin]

So should I target my crit ratio around 75:200?

[narrow folio]

Well realistically without a crit weapon you probably won't get that

[fair urchin]

What are the natlan fishing weapons for now?

[quaint fern]

None

[fair urchin]

Even 75?

[quaint fern]

We were talking about how odd it is that there wasn't one added

[bright cape]

nah. that's too try hardy

just try to get baseline stats