#📌gimshim-help

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bright cape
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how is the 2nd team?

warm scroll
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Also you can go fischl in most diluc vape teams

bright cape
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sounds fun. no need to funnel energy to xiangling

warm scroll
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And xl receives 1-2 funnels per rot

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I recommend fav lance xl

bright cape
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but does she apply enough hydro to vape with 2 of them?

warm scroll
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Furina will have majority damage share

warm scroll
bright cape
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thanks. i will try both n see how it goes

fiery wigeon
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How long does it take for the fish to respawn?

lyric cargo
fiery wigeon
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Ah so I was right, sorry I was just talking to one of my friends and she was being saying it's every reset

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Thank you 🙏

forest venture
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72 hours, countdown starts when obtaining the fish*

zealous ledge
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There are domains that aren’t artifact domains but also not talent material domains. Like, domains with a little challenge that gives primogems and adventure exp. I know you can only get the rewards once, but are those domains replayable?

shy ravine
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Can someone help?

zenith thicket
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did they release ororon and mavuika kit?

neon harness
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no

bright cape
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any tips for diluc envisaged echoes fight?

neon harness
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do dmg

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survive

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profit

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@dusty cape kisSkis

dusty cape
bright cape
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one more to go

strange scarab
shy ravine
bright cape
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is it worth getting zhongli over mavuika for this account?

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if I get him, I can build zhongli for envisaged echo to complete the imaginarium theatre achievement. RaiDerp

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i already am at 4/5

wind bolt
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Intresting

strange scarab
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mavuika not even playable

wind bolt
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Bamboozles

unkempt river
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Why is Lumidouce that high up? Simply as a statstick or does it take into account that you're triggering burning? But Hu Tao wouldn't be able to do that haha

haughty lotus
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It’s just a good statstick

hard narwhal
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I kinda wanna build a Tighnari team, would a Tighnari Baizhu kuki/raiden/fischl team work and which ones should I run? (I only have C1 fischl so idk if its worth)

rugged sparrow
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you want an electro on-fielder on top of Fischl

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Tigh/Fischl/2nd electro (on-fielder or quickswap)/+1 is generally his best setup

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don't even need c6 Fischl

hard narwhal
rugged sparrow
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Tigh is a quickswap

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you just do E CA Q combo and swap out

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and then your 2nd electro takes the filed to proc Fischl's A4

hard narwhal
rugged sparrow
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he does, it's still around 5s to unload his whole combo

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then you're afk on him

hard narwhal
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o ok

rugged sparrow
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since they're catalyst (easy aggravate procs for Fischl A4)

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and generally low commitment on field time

hard narwhal
rugged sparrow
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she works but not common

hard narwhal
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dont have yae and not really sure I want to build lisa lol

rugged sparrow
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because Raiden takes a while to use her burst combo

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can definitely clear abyss, though

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something like Raiden/Fischl/Tighnari/+1

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in your case, Baizhu I assume

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which is nice cuz Hakushin + 4p Deepwood I guess

quaint fern
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at that point wouldn't it just be better to go agg raiden and just ditch tighnari?

rugged sparrow
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perhaps

quaint fern
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also I realized the other day that I didn't refine my slingshot 💀

rugged sparrow
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depending on both Raiden and Tigh respective investments

hard narwhal
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or they fly

quaint fern
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oh like the boss in floor 12 rn?

hard narwhal
quaint fern
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you have fischl

hard narwhal
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I'm literally using an arle team rn and im just desperately trying to hit it

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you'll never guess which floor I wasn't able to 3 star lol

rugged sparrow
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I mean you just need to shoot it down every so often

hard narwhal
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ive never like actually fought something with weak points normally

quaint fern
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you just need to hit them

hard narwhal
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oh ok I can just sub fischl in for my neuvi team then

rugged sparrow
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specifically for Aeonblight Drake, you just need to hit the weakspots once

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to bring it down

quaint fern
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yeah it has two weakspots

hard narwhal
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prob still gonna try building a tigh team cause charge shot team looks kinda fun

lyric cargo
crude dirge
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where do I get tables w/ weapons compares for chars?

opal surge
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Build guide in pins has weapon rankings

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Weapon rankings with % diff shown are highly subjective to the specific team you run and the artifacts on your account

crude dirge
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oh only for support qiqi..

opal surge
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DPS qiqi isn't real

crude dirge
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i got aquila favonia
so it is now

rugged sparrow
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pog 1k DPS char

crude dirge
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🤫

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at least nobody will die in coop

rugged sparrow
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you overestimate the average intelligence of coop players

jolly junco
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the best coop strategy is playing a strong self sufficient DPS

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makes the run faster even if the rest of them do nothing

rugged sparrow
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I stopped using healer/c2 Zhongli when I see ppl still dying KEKHands

crude dirge
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is aquila good choice for dps traveller?

rugged sparrow
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uh

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depends on which traveller but generally no

crude dirge
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i need dungeon w/ pale flame either way idk

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
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just slap it on Bennett

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the Aquila

crude dirge
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im not using him that much

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OMG I JUST GOT PERFECT PALE FLAME FLOWER

rugged sparrow
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define "perfect"

crude dirge
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HOLY SHIT

rugged sparrow
crude dirge
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DOUBLE DEF AND FLAT ATK

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
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no clue

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works fine on my end

crude dirge
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is there any way to get those things except crafting and domain?

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and that parametrical thing

rugged sparrow
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events but peeposhrug

crude dirge
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i already wasted my resin when i got aquila and I couldnt do it

elder bluff
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wait until you can do domain 02shrug

opal surge
rugged sparrow
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yes

opal surge
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And 90% of the time it's the arle player refusing to press Q OMEGALUL

rugged sparrow
lyric cargo
lyric cargo
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(is it even a strong shield? I have no idea)

rugged sparrow
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I mean ZL shield is the strongest there is

opal surge
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I'm not a whale unlike oxd

rugged sparrow
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spoiler: still didn't save them

elder bluff
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they can't block certain attacks

rugged sparrow
elder bluff
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some attacks like knave's can penetrate shield and 1-hit characters

rugged sparrow
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her attacks don't penetrate shield, she just hits super hard

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
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chars marked with Bond of Life takes 250% of the original attack dmg

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she can easily hit for 20k if you get marked

elder bluff
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I think she 2-hit my shielded Zli with 80% hp and shield. his max HP was above 50k

rugged sparrow
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happens KEK

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phase 1 Arle has 26k atk, phase 2 has 37k atk agreege

opal surge
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Chat is mavuika dead Clueless where is the drip

rugged sparrow
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gone

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I ate her drip

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now I can save for c6 Wrio in peace Pepe_Sleep

opal surge
lyric cargo
opal surge
strange scarab
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chacha powercreeps

crude dirge
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is there any tier list for aquila favonia characters? (dps)

lyric cargo
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nobody else can really use it

crude dirge
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since when bennet is dps

lyric cargo
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it's meant to be for Jean I think

lyric cargo
crude dirge
lyric cargo
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physical chars other that Eula and Freminet aren't really a thing afaik

lyric cargo
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even they are kinda bad
phyiscal lacks support

crude dirge
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I heard that frem<razor

lyric cargo
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that'd be pretty sad

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I'm not sure

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but Razor's best team is not physical

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it's Bennett Nahida Xingqiu Razor I think

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with Razor built for EM

strange scarab
strange scarab
crude dirge
lyric cargo
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afaik, aquila is still rated highly on dps bennett

strange scarab
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physical sucks

lyric cargo
crude dirge
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but ion have c6 rah
only c5

lyric cargo
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but it's the best that exists to look up which chars want a weapon

opal surge
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Aquila is unfortunately not actually a good weapon outside of providing 674 base attack to bennet

lyric cargo
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c5 is a lot if you haven't played actively for that long (?)

crude dirge
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since start of 2022

crude dirge
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@lyric cargo do I use 2pc2pc cw and shim or 4pc cw?

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1st - 4pc cw, 2nd - 2pc2pc cw/shim

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@opal surge

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no c6

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im using only 60lvl aquila so base atk is low as hell

lyric cargo
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without Xilonen, I'm not sure I'd run Bennett dps
he needs c6 for it as well

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Furina is what would enable Marechaussee

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CW is not the greatest set to strongbox nowadays, I feel

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though it can be an alternative when MH would lead to crit rate overcap

crude dirge
opal surge
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Would you even run Aquila on DPS bennet

crude dirge
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yes

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but its only lvl 60 rn

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both buffin others and myself

opal surge
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Putting aside that main DPS Bennet literally doesn't work without C6 I have strong doubts that Aquila actually performs that well for him (as a main dps), but I doubt anyone has recently calced weapons for him so I don't know

crude dirge
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not that big of dmg lose i think

opal surge
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Aquila effect is hot garbage

crude dirge
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u mean passive or substat

opal surge
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(both)

crude dirge
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passive is KINDA good if u nub
im just dodging

opal surge
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Weapons are supposed to help you deal damage Aquila does 200mv every 15s and 20% attack

opal surge
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Bennet is a healer...

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Who cares if it heals a tiny bit

crude dirge
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when u have no ult

opal surge
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You do you friend

lyric cargo
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but either way, the first steps to using him as support or dps are the same (lvl90 the weapon and level up his burst)

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one thing about him is that his plunges come out faster than other sword chars

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I probably wouldn't recommend pulling Xianyun just for Bennett though

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it's just that I have her already, that's why I'll even try it

velvet tide
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chasca or lyney bow for tighnari?

cedar flint
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but it’s not like you have a choice since it’s the same banner

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there is a decent chance you will get both if you go for pity

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I think they’re both equally great tho

opal surge
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I calced this there is a screenshot in this channel somewhere

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It's chasca bow

lyric cargo
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there's also the hidden third option
(using slingshot, and waiting until you get Amos or Skward Harp from standard)

primal tendon
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my xingqiu c6’d, how much er I would need

cedar flint
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maybe her bow is better if you have swirl

opal surge
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This is assuming double dendro (favoring lyneys bow)

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It's even worse in single dendro

lyric cargo
# primal tendon my xingqiu c6’d, how much er I would need

Lemon posted this once:

Rational: ERC
#📌gimshim-help message

assumes 2E per rotation on bennett, xiangling skill put to 0.5 to account for gouba being inconsistent at hitting sometimes, particle rng put to safe to account for raiden's E

also assumes favonius on xingqiu

if you get c6 xingqiu then change the bonus non particle energy in his section from 20 to 32 (since his c6 provides roughly 12 bonus non particle energy)

raiden provides 20-25ish which is why right now he has 20 bonus non particle energy in his section

see the bolded bit

opal surge
cedar flint
opal surge
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But it's better anyway so doesn't rly matrer

cedar flint
jolly junco
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its kinda weird pulling it for tighnari though

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just wait maybe another year until the next chronicled wish

lyric cargo
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For 12s after triggering a Swirl reaction, ATK increases by 24%.
In addition, when 1/2 or more characters in the party are of a different Elemental Type from the equipping character, the DMG dealt by the equipping character's Charged Attacks is increased by 20%/48% and Elemental Burst DMG dealt is increased by 10%/24%.

inbefore you get the second effect only if you get the first panic
do we know for sure, already?

jolly junco
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if you want a weapon upgrade kek

jolly junco
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im sure it'll be tested anyway in the first day

opal surge
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Uraku has the same wording and works

lyric cargo
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so 48 CA dmg% and 24 burst dmg%

opal surge
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I'm honestly surprised that hpath is that much better than avpc still

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At a glance I was suspecting it to be much closer

opal surge
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Without nahida it might be

jolly junco
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HP synergises so well with his kit

opal surge
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Yeah but 48 ca 24 burst Sounds pretty nice too

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I wonder how good it is for ganyu though, but I lack the fundamental knowledge of how ganyu works to even begin testing it

plush rune
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PonderThink whats a good team to put sigewinne on?

jolly junco
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sigewinne, furina, yelan, kazuha for example

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with on-field yelan

plush rune
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hm
i dont have any of them
what f2p options are there? HK100SV_hellokittyquestion

jolly junco
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outside of furina teams you can use her in any team where you don't need a specific last slot but still don't have defensive utility

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as long as she doesn't make it worse in some way

plush rune
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alr FoxHeadNod

dusty cape
haughty lotus
haughty hawk
haughty lotus
haughty hawk
haughty lotus
haughty hawk
haughty lotus
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Yeah haha

haughty hawk
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blushes

strange scarab
hot iris
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Should i increase hp or er? Or is this enough? 4pc emblem hydro gob

lyric cargo
fair kraken
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what should i improve

forest venture
keen willow
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How long till chasca banner

fair urchin
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8:30 am

lyric cargo
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depends on time zone

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there's a post pinned in the general chat:
Version 5.2:"Tapestry of Spirit and Flames" Maintenance Times

Estimated Maintenance Start Time:
<t:1732053600:F>,
<t:1732053600:R>

Approximately a five-hour downtime. You will be unable to log into the game during this period.

Estimated Maintenance End Time:
<t:1732071600:F>,
<t:1732071600:R>

The times shown above have already been converted into your timezone. Maintenance starts and ends at the same time for all servers

keen willow
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Yay im gonna sleep for 8 hours

lyric cargo
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move to Europe, if you haven't panic
the time is just right for us

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banner goes live at 4am

fair urchin
lyric cargo
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maybe 5 sillygoofy

fair urchin
lyric cargo
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probably to soft pity (73)
if I get her, I get her

otherwise I save for Neuv c1 / Zl

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hopefully I'll get some copies of Ororon

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I also only have c1 Sucrose and c0 Barbara

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Barbara cons would be the only wasted ones for me, tbh

keen willow
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Wait the other 4 stars are barbara and sucrose?VentiCringe

lyric cargo
keen willow
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I already have c35 barbra and c6 sucrose

lyric cargo
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share some with the class panic

keen willow
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Atp im never gonna use sucrose after xilonen

lyric cargo
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maybe if you want VV on both sides
and use Kazuha + Xilonen on one of them

keen willow
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The only time that happens is when i need hutao plunge on the other side

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Maybe national some day

swift crown
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sillygoofy hello new here

neon harness
swift crown
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how have you been?

dark shadow
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What's wanderer's best artifact set?

bright cape
haughty lotus
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Shimenawa

violet cipher
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When does maintenance for NA? 5pm?

dusty cape
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Version 5.2 is maintenance anticipated to start on <t:1732053600:F>, <t:1732053600:R> and end at <t:1732071600:F>, <t:1732071600:R>

violet cipher
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Ty

bright cape
strange scarab
quaint fern
fair urchin
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What the happened to the help section

dusty cape
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gba has changed last names

neon harness
neon harness
dusty cape
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guoballs

zealous night
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Now that chasca is out, how is her performance in combat?

quaint fern
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It's been like 30 min

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Come back in a day or two

strange scarab
dull smelt
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what would be the best weapon forchasca?

quaint fern
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probably?

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new bow is better than r5 aqua OMEGALUL

rugged sparrow
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can u even full stack Amos...

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since Chasca projectile is instantaneous anyway no

quaint fern
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oh this is ganyu btw

rugged sparrow
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oh

quaint fern
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this new bow is crazy

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still not pulling tho

rugged sparrow
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it looks ugly on Ganyu

elder bluff
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but it is strong

rugged sparrow
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drip >>

dusty cape
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I already have the one that outclasses it so save hmmmok

sand kite
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how do i unlock this chest? XD

elder bluff
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idk maybe use the new bird?

sand kite
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i tried, nothin

dusty cape
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isn’t new content supposed spoilered the first couple of days hmmmm

sand kite
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oh well i'll come back to it, there's bound to be an answer eventually

rugged sparrow
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exploration should be fine as long as it doesn't spoiler story/quest I think arahmm

sand kite
quaint fern
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gonna be real with you, most people probably don't know how these new puzzles work either

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I haven't even logged on yet :icant:

rugged sparrow
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same

elder bluff
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either check on interactive map
or wait a few days

dusty cape
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I’ll just wait until someone on the unofficial map solves it

cedar flint
rugged sparrow
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it is

cedar flint
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I don’t see magic on that list

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Found it

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alright I will add the bow to my pulling list after c6 ganyu

quaint fern
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just skip it

rugged sparrow
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treez feels threatened cuz he's not simp enough to get Chasca bow for Ganyu

quaint fern
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ganyu will get a snezhnaya cryo designed bow

rugged sparrow
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surely

quaint fern
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SURELY

cedar flint
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Surely

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I can get it for now tho

quaint fern
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also lets be honest

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chasca bow looks like ass on her

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the drip is not strong with this one

cedar flint
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I think it could work

grand jungle
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how do i open this door

dusty cape
quaint fern
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should I just build out geo

neon harness
pliant light
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Who do I pull for?

jolly junco
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well

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for the rate up 5*s you have two charged attack bow characters

grand jungle
jolly junco
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both have good damage

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so whoever you find more fun

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or just save

pliant light
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I really want Neuvillette

jolly junco
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so save then

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you only have 16 limited pulls

pliant light
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I really want Lyney though too cause then that'll complete the Triplets😭

lyric cargo
quaint fern
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i gotta read up on how nightsoul works haha

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D: they got rid of the BP animation

lyric cargo
# quaint fern i gotta read up on how nightsoul works haha

3 similar mechanics with the same naming keyword VentiLipBite

NS state: A stance.
(If Ayato was from Natlan, his skill state to use fast NAs would be called his NS state.)

NS burst: Something that triggers Natlan char effects. Happens automatically. More Natlan chars → more often.
(Xilonen gains some def%, Chasca fires a bullet, 2pc scroll of the hero gives 6 energy, ..)

NS transmission: Exploration mechanic. Switch while flying / climbing / etc and trigger something.
(Ororon flies up a bit. Xilonen's skill activates, ..)

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Xianyun + Ororon felt good in overworld so far
basically a 4th Xy jump
E, E, E, swap

neon harness
grand jungle
neon harness
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kusastare ask in maincord

lyric cargo
grand jungle
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theyre too busy talking about hsr

neon wave
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update just dropped, wcyd

quaint fern
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yeah either try to figure it out now

or mark it and ask again in like a week

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we all don't really know much about the new region as of now anyways

grand jungle
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true but its still frustrating that they give you no hints on what to do, not even the in game guide tells you anything useful

quaint fern
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GanyUh surely it's not that bad

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I don't plan on touching exploration until the weekend maybe so I can't really tell you what to do either

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wtf this patch QoL is so goated, w and s for dialogue scrolling?

lyric portal
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What could I use for floor 12?

strange scarab
quaint fern
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what the yap is this

strange scarab
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tldr if there are 2 or more phec in team she can shred after doing 2 nas after skill

strange scarab
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maybe i wasnt really counting

quaint fern
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tbh I haven't really kept up with meta

haughty lotus
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it's deux

quaint fern
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but I kinda want to try double geo ganyu now LOL

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so I'm doing some tcing before she reruns

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chiori also just left 💀 this team isn't going to be playable until snezhnaya

random marten
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chasca is fun to play as but i'm saving for navia rerun 018_seven_cry

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this sucks MonaSigh_therues98

grand jungle
quaint fern
elder bluff
quaint fern
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i'm seeing Q first

opal surge
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it depends

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xilo q timing just usually depends on what makes more sense for fanfare

quaint fern
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okay really strange

quaint fern
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which doesn't really make sense to me but w/e

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I didn't really do an energy calc for this so I was just using whatever worked tbh

opal surge
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shes likely not catching her particles (before burst) in that case

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you can delay particles on sim if you need to

quaint fern
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no this literally doesn't make sense @opal surge

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not even on her, it's messing with rina and chiori for some reason????

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anyways I moved the furina burst to a bit later in the rotation so ganyu has better furina uptime

swift crown
opal surge
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also chiori needs to skill:2

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for a1

quaint fern
opal surge
quaint fern
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i will fix that

opal surge
quaint fern
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is there a reason why you're not using rina's burst earlier?

opal surge
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you said you wanted to move it later for better ganyu uptime

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i dont understand how ganyu works so i moved it later ICANT

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oh you prolly saw already but you want to pick up a crystallize shard at some point

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for geo resonance

quaint fern
opal surge
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its 18s actually

quaint fern
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oh sily me I was looking at CD

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wtf gcsim cares about party order for chiori swapping

opal surge
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so does ingame

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so HeheSmile

quaint fern
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yeah I didn't realize

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I was wondering why I was getting swap CD errors

opal surge
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i mean its like 105k if you move furina

quaint fern
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yeah moving furina burst earlier lets you get more fanfare + buff chiori

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104k

opal surge
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its also 20s rotations now

quaint fern
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ideally, I'd be using chasca bow bc this team has that bow in mind but w/e

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that's not in sim yet

opal surge
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chiori subs arent adjusted to burstin every other rotation yet

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she has two additional er rolls still

quaint fern
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yeah I was wondering about that

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does that not mess up the skill cd timing?

opal surge
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for chiori herself its completely fine

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shes 16s cd, the only danger you run into if you shorten rotations further is that furina wont have skill ready after a burstless chiori rotation

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since furina is the only actual bottleneck in this team, she cant do lower than 20s rotations

quaint fern
opal surge
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its also funny to me that this is a dolphin/whale sim with personal investment

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but its using KQMS on chiori xd

quaint fern
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ikr

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it's because I don't have a scroll set and im too lazy to put in my DEF pieces for GT

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actually, I don't even know if any of them are leveled

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KQMS is on xilo as well but she doesn't do dmg anyways

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getting rid of the two extra ER rolls on chiori only increases the dps by about 500

opal surge
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getting pps and playing favrina/more er on rina is like a ~10k+ dps increase

quaint fern
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pps?

opal surge
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peak patrol song

dusty cape
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peak sword

elder bluff
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anyone can test if chasca can generate PHEC bullets if teammates are down?

opal surge
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pp sword

quaint fern
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OH

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also how do you do a while true @opal surge

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do I just change the i<4 to i<1

opal surge
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for first rotation stuff?

quaint fern
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ye

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c6 ganyu lets you frontload

opal surge
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just do if i=1 {}

quaint fern
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okay

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yeah gcsim crashed on me when I tried to do while true {} LOL

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let me go steal someone's random chiori and see what a real chiori looks like in this team

opal surge
#

loops have to end or things will get angry at you PepeLa

quaint fern
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oh should I have done if true

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OOPS ehe

neon wave
#

kusastare I'll have to learn to sim at some point

quaint fern
#

dont LOL

quaint fern
#

I hate how most of the stuff isn't documented

opal surge
#

its confusing at first but once u get into it it kinda makes sense

strange scarab
opal surge
strange scarab
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fuck this

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got diluc at very hard pity but then she came at 5 pity fuck her

quaint fern
#

who here has a chiori I can steal?

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for sim purposes

neon wave
#

pity building is the first cause of mald in the world smh

opal surge
#

i think mine is worse than kqms

quaint fern
#

eh genshin got another hot patch?

opal surge
quaint fern
#

let me check my friend list LOL

neon wave
#

I do but she's not great

quaint fern
#

keep in mind that I have jade cutter on her

strange scarab
quaint fern
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so that's low key hard carrying

quaint fern
neon wave
#

Oh I'm on uraku so probably wonk

strange scarab
quaint fern
#

wait nvm I forgot that enka would be down

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I guess I can type this manually LOL

quaint fern
#

basically the same as @haughty lotus 's chiori

dusty cape
#

chioriyasicles

quaint fern
#

oh yeah @opal surge i was wondering if there's a filter to see skill/swap delay or just general waiting (usually due to insufficient energy) in the sample generation on gcsim

opal surge
strange scarab
#

Brozhe

quaint fern
#

okay why is c4 xilo so overrated

quaint fern
quaint fern
#

okay wow chiori has some great cons

strange scarab
quaint fern
strange scarab
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i only have c2

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ez

quaint fern
#

for this team that I was simming

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c2 -> c4 xilo was basically the same difference as chiori c1->c2

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xilo was a bit more but you get my point

opal surge
rugged sparrow
#

what in the whale

elder bluff
quaint fern
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i'm gonna pull a new bow after c6ing

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and getting xilo and chiori

neon wave
forest venture
#

cool ahh character

strange scarab
#

the anemo hero of the anemo tribe

serene zephyr
#

for anyone who may have had issues with the painted rock challenge and the hued monetoos, extract red and yellow to make orange on the third challenge

lyric cargo
# quaint fern wasn't her combo E N3?

normally N2. She uses nightsoul points to move though, especially if you dash

if the enemy moved away from you, you might need to N3

there'll be a sound effect, her bar will go empty, her enhanced movement state will go away. And there'll be a green-ish circle under your active char

I like that last part, it can let you know if you're still buffed

main cipher
#

I cannot find the place to use the purple obsidian ring

main cipher
#

I was so blind

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
forest venture
#

i cant fly straight up lmao

opal surge
#

Spacebar

opal surge
#

At least it's a good universal bow

forest venture
opal surge
#

Are U only pressing spacebar

forest venture
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even if i sharply hover the camera upward it doesn't increase my altitude gradually

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i dash too

lyric cargo
#

let me hop into her trial to check

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in a bit

serene zephyr
#

has anyone done the calling from the masters of the nightwind quest yet? My iktomisaur ability in the trial isnt revealing the hidden mark

crude dirge
#

is here new obsidian thingy to get elixirs?

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

Obsidian Rings

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to unlock the secret spaces on each tribe

crude dirge
rugged sparrow
#

and yes there are

lyric cargo
#

didn't see this change before, that's nice:

rugged sparrow
#

CWBH enjoyer

crude dirge
#

ABOUTTA MAKE ATK SANDS SHIM THEN

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or pyro

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which should I do 🤔

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wait they added 2 or 1

rugged sparrow
#

should be 2

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+1 from new patch so 3 total

crude dirge
#

and MAYBE one more from sigils

lyric cargo
rugged sparrow
#

CatWithBlueHat yes

lyric cargo
#

ah, ok

hollow thunder
#

does anybody know how to unlock this chest?

rugged sparrow
#

I'm not even sure how I unlocked it

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I just interacted with the stone nearby with "observe"

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and was in the middle of Ororon's CA, not sure if it helped

crude dirge
hollow thunder
lyric cargo
crude dirge
#

how many times i have to do this quest to get the chest?

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bros fr a scammer

#

@lyric cargo

lyric cargo
# crude dirge <@218297428011515904>

idk, I avoided quests and collectibles so far

just unlocked the map and collected Ororon's overworld mat for ascension
so it can start the respawn timer

I'll do quests and collectibles later, when I have time to mark things off on the unofficial interactive map
(hopefully also giving them time to work out any problems, so less markers change after I mark them)

neon wave
crude dirge
#

oh

crude dirge
#

where do i find the key tho

neon wave
#

oh should I have spoilered that wait

neon wave
frozen obsidian
#

is this patch fully voiced in EN?

crude dirge
#

ion think so

neon wave
frozen obsidian
crude dirge
#

wheres the clan vault?

crude dirge
#

looks like it is

neon wave
#

not my screenie hehe vault for which ring? purple was sent earlier

crude dirge
#

oh nearby statue

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wait how do I make pink-

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nvm red was good

crude dirge
#

WAIT I NEED ONLY 2 OBSIDIAN FRAGMENTS?

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or 2 more

neon wave
#

3 per ring

crude dirge
#

nvm then im jus dumb

#

i have lvl 12 geo traveler elem skill

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🤫

crude dirge
#

is this another tricky scam?

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oh it isnt

#

looks like theres only 1 clan secret

#

i got almost every precious/luxurious chest except for ochkanatlan

crude dirge
#

should I make shim atk% sands or pyro set atk% sands? (I have neither)

#

???

lyric cargo
#

which char are we talking about

#

I don't think anyone understood the question, that's why there's no answer panic

crude dirge
crude dirge
#

so I can use 2pc2pc shimenawa's and their element dmg bonus

lyric cargo
#

that used to be the case for Fischl, though there's Golden Troupe now

crude dirge
lyric cargo
#

I use 2pc 2pc on Navia because her set is paired with a bad one in her domain

crude dirge
#

and I already have her built

opal surge
#

chat can I yoink chasca flowers from someone Susge theres too many looking for them on maincord

lyric cargo
crude dirge
#

but ion have most of ochkanatlan teleports if they r here

opal surge
#

thats fine I can fly there

#

yeah I'm eu, id appreciate it sunfire2

crude dirge
lyric cargo
#

you can take mine as well, after
if you still need

lyric cargo
#

turns out Ororon can do the midair charge attack thing even outside Natlan

#

just no nightsoul transmission (it would've been so good VentiCringe)

strange scarab
#

does his special elemental sight work outside natlan

crude dirge
#

BRO I CANT EVEN ACCESS TO THIS ONE

#

i have only 5 chests left and i cant access 3 of them (idk about others)

bright cape
#

how long does exploration in the two new region take?

crude dirge
#

oh wait there are 2 clan secrets

bright cape
#

days?

rugged sparrow
#

no, three areas

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not two

bright cape
#

oh my bad

#

i guess someone must have marathoned it by now

rugged sparrow
#

as for actual time, no idea
just finished exploring the Masters of Night Wind area, it's fairly small

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it's like 1-2h at most if u explore with guides I'm guessing

bright cape
#

i like to do interactive map

#

also we got compass now

lyric cargo
bright cape
#

it's a nice balance

#

following video guide feels too much handholding

#

with map, i miss one or two every region

lyric cargo
#

mhmm

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with map, I get the upside of exploring and just marking off things I find

#

only for the things I don't find on my own, do I need to go the other way around

shrewd anchor
#

what is a good team for lyney?

rugged sparrow
#

Lyney Bennett +2

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shielder is generally recommended, especially against aggressive enemies

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last slot being buffer/off-field DPS works

lethal tundra
#

y'all where is the inktomisaur tribe obsidian locked place something

rugged sparrow
#

what

lethal tundra
#

like the place to use the obsidian key

rugged sparrow
#

oh

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Masters of Night Winds

lethal tundra
#

yeee

rugged sparrow
#

basically just below the statue of seven

lethal tundra
#

oh so it wasn't near the tribe...

#

ty

jaunty temple
#

how do i solve this

cobalt sigil
#

Should I pull for Chasca or save for Zhongli?

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
#

I'd say she doesn't necessarily require one, because her highest damage teammates are healers

cobalt sigil
lyric cargo
#

funny enough, it's best to ignore the part of her kit that says you play at low hp now I think

#

teams like Hutao Furain Yelan Xilonen
or Xianyun

cobalt sigil
#

Yeah, I use that team

lyric cargo
#

though that's mostly because Furina is good, and you might want her on the other side

#

Neuv definitely adds another piece of variety to her team choices that don't include Furina

#

I'd say Chasca is interesting if you want to make your overworld experience more enjoyable
cutting down on travel time and climbing

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also if you don't have two teams yet
she gives you a team that could handle most elemental shields

cobalt sigil
#

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I have a bunch of supports already that I was running out of DPS chars to use them with

lyric cargo
#

what I'd maybe do is see if you get her early
spending low enough primos that you can still get other chars you were planning to get

cobalt sigil
#

I only have like 30 pulls 😭

lyric cargo
#

so basically not much to spare, even if you get her in 15

#

was going to say:
if you want her and get her cheap, good.
if you don't get her, you're still as far from Zl as you were before but maybe you got like c0 Ororon

cobalt sigil
#

I'm also garunteed, I just need to get up to pity

lyric cargo
#

ah

cobalt sigil
#

Yeah, I lost on Naheehee

lyric cargo
#

another one to think about is Neuv
how good are your AoE teams?

#

because Chasca seems to be a single target dps, and so is Hutao

cobalt sigil
#

I don't have basically any lmao

opal surge
#

chascas biggest downside from testing so far is that shes married to furina

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and bennet

cobalt sigil
#

I can remake a Hu Tao team

#

Yelan/XQ/Kaz/Hu Tao

opal surge
#

well the other problem is that hutao does more damage than chasca

#

remaking hts team in favour for chasca doesnt make that much sense

lyric cargo
cobalt sigil
#

She also runs out of Phlog hella fast compared to chars like Xilonen

#

So she's gonna be kinda ass outside of Natlan

opal surge
#

does she?

cobalt sigil
#

She eats it faster when she's moving upward but I just don't think she has that much to begin with

#

Her whole thing is that she gets more when she kills things

opal surge
#

no she just eats way more by going vertical

lyric cargo
opal surge
#

but thats normal

cobalt sigil
#

Yeah, the nightsoul

opal surge
#

she covers more distance and is faster than xilo

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outside and inside of natlan

cobalt sigil
#

I do like fast :3

opal surge
#

her skill lasts like 20% longer

#

either that or she moves 20% faster

wet plank
#

Sprint outside natlan wanderer wins unless chasca C1

opal surge
#

I actually cant tell

cobalt sigil
#

I'm not pulling for c1 lmao

wet plank
#

If non sprint chasca wins

cobalt sigil
#

I didn't have pulls to get Hu Tao c1

opal surge
#

チャスカ移動距離比較

0凸、1凸以上、放浪者を比較してみました。
チャスカが凸に関わらなく放浪者より滞空時間が長く、移動速度も速いです。

#原神 #原神チャスカ

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wait wanderer wins this by sprinting?

#

hes mega mega far behind without sprint

narrow folio
#

Nightsoul consumption goes crazy when sprinting I guess

wet plank
cobalt sigil
#

frfr

wet plank
#

Dunno why NuwaXD

opal surge
#

maybe to punish you for dashing during uptime

cobalt sigil
#

Imma put in a 10 pull

#

Wish me luck

#

Chasca-less but Ororon is here

lyric cargo
#

from the trial, I like her mobility
it's like Neuv, you can kite back while charging

but it's hard to evaluate, they give you phlogiston
you have to make sure you don't use it if you want to know how she feels in abyss

#

I wish she had more flexible rotation length, her maximum is 4 CAs?

cobalt sigil
#

I purposefully ran out of Phlog in the trial and tried her that way and it runs out really fast I feel

lyric cargo
#

also, it's called multi target fire but her damage gets distributed rather than multiplied like a good AoE char would

hard narwhal
#

is an alhaitham xingqiu raiden baizhu team fine for hyperbloom? I know yaoyao is an option but I assume that baizhu is generally better, im not sure if there's a reason to pick her over baizhu

narrow folio
#

Don't let them fool you

hard narwhal
#

also like is there anything yaoyao does better than baizhu? I couldn't really figure that out

narrow folio
#

She's cuter

cobalt sigil
#

Living past the age of 25?

opal surge
#

as someone who pulled chasca c0r1 and for whom shes performing perfectly as expected I think I would not recommend people to pull chasca for strength

cobalt sigil
#

I'm also pulling her for style lmao

narrow folio
hard narwhal
opal surge
narrow folio
#

Bro is rich

lyric cargo
#

I was suprised how well this cleared, given the low artifact quality on chasca
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1r_uEZsS6U

please consider like and subscribe if you enjoy the content 😊
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opal surge
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its not that shes "bad"

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shes just not great

cobalt sigil
#

I don't mind not great, I played Yoimiya for the longest time

opal surge
#

ive tried all kinds of teams and they all clear fine

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with the exception of nahida kuki furina that one almost didnt clear

cobalt sigil
#

Dendro doesn't give her bullets, that makes sense

#

Nahida would just be giving her EM

opal surge
#

losing a bullet is not a big deal

cobalt sigil
#

What about her on VV?

opal surge
#

plenty of kazuha/xilonen teams feel good

opal surge
hard narwhal
opal surge
#

but yeah my chasca is looking a bit sussy

trail nymph
#

Can you provide teams for both Kinich and Chasca please?

narrow folio
opal surge
#

shes not ascended yet

narrow folio
#

Like I said, not 100

opal surge
cobalt sigil
#

But she's so cool :c

opal surge
#

it is genuinely worse than kqms this build

narrow folio
#

That goblet is a tragedy

opal surge
#

its a 22 sub build

#

xdd

narrow folio
opal surge
#

it might just be the worst build i have

narrow folio
#

I'm lowkey about to craft an atk sands on this set, I cannot get a good one

opal surge
lyric cargo
opal surge
#

it will be difficult to make non overlapping teams for both kinich and chasca as theyre both ehavily reliant on bennet

lyric cargo
#

I'd have foddered these in a heartbeat

narrow folio
#

Especially when you need four sets

opal surge
#

xd

narrow folio
#

Just craft a better piece WhyDidntIthinkOfThat

cobalt sigil
#

I'm going for Chasca. I just like her lmao

opal surge
#

i can cook a mare set but i cba

lyric cargo
# opal surge they have 2 more subs than me

really? I'm counting ER as useful since her burst is pretty good

I suppose it it doesn't change "burst every other rotation" to "burst every roatation", it's no difference

opal surge
#

you need like

#

180 er to burst every rotation KEKL

cobalt sigil
#

I GOT HER AT 30????

trail nymph
hard narwhal
hard narwhal
narrow folio
#

And there's the issue

hard narwhal
#

he has yelan and xingqiu which doesnt work

lyric cargo
cobalt sigil
lyric cargo
hard narwhal
lyric cargo
#

you have 42 days to get to soft pity on the next banner if you want to try
3 * 42 would be 126 wishes

hard narwhal
lyric cargo
hard narwhal
#

other than that I don't really know what your options would be

cobalt sigil
#

His electro app is kinda ass though

opal surge
#

ororon is better than fischl yes

narrow folio
#

He's not really there for the app

lyric cargo
#

does Ororon need field time in Chasca teams?

opal surge
#

he EQ's

#

thats the rotation

#

the bennet n1 is not necessary in practice

lyric cargo
#

if he can apply electro without taking the field (from Chasca's nightsoul attacks)
then at very low investment, you could put him on a bad 4pc scroll and focos on other chars first

#

though farming for Chasca means farming for Ororon

opal surge
#

you need to EQ anyway

lyric cargo
#

ah

opal surge
#

you cant cheat rotation time for chasca because furina e is not up if you do

#

your rotation must be 20s long, or 18s if you are certain that everything is dead after the second rotation

#

so you can furina EQ into furina QE on the second rotation

#

thats the only real way to cheat rotation time with furina on the team

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or sac sword furina

narrow folio
hard narwhal
#

might run neuvi hyperbloom with ororon looks pretty funny ngl

jolly junco
hard narwhal
#

ye its 30s uptime 20s cd

jolly junco
#

so you can potentially E every other rotation

#

if you want to try run a short rotation

opal surge
jolly junco
#

im not sure its 18s

#

bennett E is certainly skippable with enough ER on him, though doing QE can be nice so he gets a healing tick from his burst for fanfare

opal surge
#

let me check

#

I dont think i have enough enough er on bennet in practice for this but

hard narwhal
#

how would ororon stack up against raiden in a Neuvi Furina Baizhu hyperbloom team?

opal surge
#

wait ororon cant proc fav if he doesnt take the field

opal surge
cedar flint
#

do we know now by how much the reaction dmg increase was?

opal surge
#

you could EQ on ororon every other rotation pogO

bright cape
#

i thought fav doesn't proc off-field at all

opal surge
#

it is

jolly junco
#

what are you doing with ororon

cedar flint
jolly junco
#

not using his EQ every rotation?

opal surge
#

isnt that what we were talking about Hmmge

jolly junco
#

Well I just said you can remove the bennett E

#

though it might be worth using it still

opal surge
#

i assumed this meant to shorten rotation by not fielding ororon

jolly junco
#

hidden might've meant that

#

but no you should EQ on him every rotation

opal surge
#

and 16s in the burstless chasca rotation so i guess you lose ~3 seconds of pets only

#

if you wanted to do shorter furina rotations ye

fair urchin
opal surge
#

best option might be layla but i havent tested it so I cant really speak for it

#

its okay on paper, I dont have a layla built

white birch
#

is chasca's weapon worth it? i have a AS so i don't know if i should get her weapon or not

cobalt sigil
#

Yeah, I was gonna ask too, I have a Thundering Pulse

lyric cargo
lyric cargo
opal surge
#

@cobalt sigil @white birch

lyric cargo
#

but then I realized you're farming for him automatically by farming for Chasca

opal surge
#

assuming furina ororon bennet

#

but weapon rankings dont change much across teams

jolly junco
lyric cargo
#

in my mind, they could focus on farming for the on-fielder and do the bare minimum for supports at first

#

but they share the same domain

jolly junco
#

yeah

#

you're also not really resource gated from building a few characters excluding artifacts at low AR cuz artifact farming isnt recommended until 45+ anyway

bright cape
#

have we been getting liyue character every year?

#

for lantern rite

keen willow
#

Should i build pity and hope for oraroen or pull for chasca's weapon, im at like 20 pity

quaint fern
rugged sparrow
bright cape
opal surge
#

except the one where he throws rocks ig

bright cape
#

who were before yaoyao?

rugged sparrow
#

1.3 had Xiao Hu Tao
2.4 had Shenhe
3.4 had haitham (lmao)
4.4 had Xianyun

#

right Yao was also 3.4

#

but haitham being in 3.4 was omegalul

opal surge
#

4.4 also had that boy ga ming

bright cape
#

no i mean free 4 star

#

did 1.x and 2.x have free new 4 star?

rugged sparrow
#

free 4-star has always been a thing regardless we got a new one or not

#

1.3 had free 4-star selector yes

bright cape
#

so no new one right?

rugged sparrow
#

2.4 had Yun Jin

rugged sparrow
#

Yun Jin, Yao, Gaming, were the last 3 lantern rite new 4-stars

#

1.3 didn't have new Liyue 4-star

bright cape
#

thanks

hard narwhal
#

bro ive been seeing some ppl say chasca is mid some ppl say she's cracked, no idea what to think

lyric cargo
quaint fern
#

wanderer powercreep o7

hard narwhal
#

Also I got xingqiu to C6 so now I don't need an ER sword, what are some good 4* swords for him?

quaint fern
#

tbh he doesn't get that many great free to play 4*s

main cipher
#

ok so i did the puzzle before

lyric cargo
main cipher
#

why ain't it progressing

quaint fern
#

@hard narwhal rather than swapping his weapon, you can take him off ER sands

#

if you're in a super low ER team, maybe finale?

hard narwhal
#

thats probably a better idea

bright cape
quaint fern
#

that is unless you have a 5* weapon, then we can talk

hard narwhal
#

nah i dont lol

bright cape
#

i dunno if we can ever pull on PJC

hard narwhal
#

i have skyward blade but that's on bennett rn

bright cape
#

i think that's his best

night remnant
#

How should I build Chasca? (Or however its spelled)

jolly junco
#

just nothing out of the ordinary as far as limited 5* onfielders go nowadays

#

she does hog furina and bennett though

#

which for some people could be a problem

main cipher
quaint fern
#

@jolly junco have you tested wheelchair? it's disgusting

jolly junco
#

what is wheelchair

quaint fern
#

xilo chiori kek

hard narwhal
jolly junco
#

I use it with mualani and xiangling

#

but I wouldn't call it wheelchair

opal surge
#

the true wheelchair is xilo furina yelan

jolly junco
#

mualani still does significantly more damage than chiori

#

both are c2 r1

quaint fern
#

leave it to cn bros to bring back double geo core

#

i'm honestly surprised that chiori is doing this much tho

jolly junco
#

yeah her damage is good

quaint fern
#

too bad she's going to take a million years to rerun because she just left 💀

jolly junco
#

it's balanced because she just does damage and is geo so doesn't 'enable' the same way some units and elements can

quaint fern
#

honestly, I think this team just speaks for how shafted ganyu has been 😔

fringe scroll
#

who at fourth slot, all c0

main cipher
dark shadow
#

Chasca goblet should be anemo dmg? i saw somewhere about atk but not sure on the credibility of that post

jolly junco
fringe scroll
jolly junco
#

kokomi but then you'd need to onfield nahida

main cipher
#

wheres the Crimson Obsidian ring use location

dry thunder
#

Hey guys we have a gacha boss wanna help me defeat him?

#

The new shape shifter boss is just the dev being lazy

dusty cape
main cipher
dry thunder
#

Asia

main cipher
dry thunder
#

Hope to get Maguu Kenki one

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dry thunder
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i can i-frame now

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He doesn't exist on that boss

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I never see him when fighting that shape shifter boss

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We not gacha for character we now gacha for boss phases

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Imagine we have another gacha boss like the shape shifter boss

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We gacha for boss phase and the entry is free

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