📌gimshim-help

[lyric cargo]

16% skill crit rate
45.9% ER

I'd say get it since your weapon pool is so small
it's a good option to have in your arsenal, even if it doesn't end up on Xingqiu

do you have or plan to get Furina?

she can use it as well

[spice pecan]

Yes I will pull for her whenever she comes

[quaint fern]

I have a build of all time

and what hidden said, you can use fleuve on furina and whoever so it's just nice to have

[spice pecan]

oh tahts good to hear

[quaint fern]

especially becuase you said you only have one fav, you need to get fleuve

[spice pecan]

oh wow thats a great build

[quaint fern]

i don't even use him

[spice pecan]

:( why

[quaint fern]

it's carried by the weapon, and none of my teams want xingqiu

[spice pecan]

ur artifacts are great tho

[lyric cargo]

hoyo is kinda making it so less of the new teams want him, recently

[quaint fern]

I don't even play new teams

[spice pecan]

what do you use as main dps

[quaint fern]

I think the only time I used him recently was the last time that pryo lectors were in the abyss

[lyric cargo]

he's still a good option for older teams

I think having all 3 good off-field hydros (Furina, Xq, Yelan) is good if you have any team that wants two of them

[lyric cargo]

I still use mine for hyperbloom, which is still my best team 2 when I use Neuv Furina as team 1

finding teams that don't want Furina is a struggle

this is his build if Raiden's artifacts are available, btw
he gets to steal everything from her

[spice pecan]

xd :D

still definetly better then my Raiden

it just appeared to me that I should probably switch out their sands xd

[lyric cargo]

oh, and while you have no other options:
45.9% ER is around +11.5% burst dmg% with 4pc emblem

doesn't exactly make it worth your while to overbuild ER, but better than iron sting

[spice pecan]

Andd their flower

[spice pecan]

Yeah I should probably get fleuve and build a more crit based xinqui on artifacts

[lyric cargo]

depending on the team, farming for your other chars might be more important tbh

[spice pecan]

My arlehino is already built and so is my Kazuha. Building xilonen shouldnt be hard and 3 chars I need for Raiden team on abys are xinqui xiangling and bennet since bennet is easy to build I think farming Emblem might be better idk tho

I spent 3,600 resin on Arle just to have a 0cv goblet piece :( and I never got an offset pyro goblet

with any amount of Cv

[dusty cape]

simpsicles waiting for ganyu banner

[quaint fern]

TRUEEEE

I'm at 110k now 😔

that's like, enough to go from no character to c6

[spice pecan]

:O are you playing melt ganyu?

[lyric cargo]

hmm, getting a good set usually takes months for me

trying to compare that to your spent resin..
30 days * 180 resin per day = 3600

oh, so that's exactly one month of farming

mind posting your Arle enka card? If it really is done otherwise, you might want to use the new artifact crafting system

[spice pecan]

yeah but that was like 3 months ago I spent my resin moons I gathered pre ar 45

[lyric cargo]

actually I'm bad at math. 30 * 180 = 5400

[spice pecan]

If I had a good goblet with like 30Crit dmg it would be a lot better 95 over 180

[spice pecan]

Oh. I'm pretty sure I spent my daily + about 55 moons in like 2-3 days

[lyric cargo]

hmm, with a crit rate weapon I'd aim for a crit dmg circlet

you haven't gotten a good one?

if you craft a goblet, you could use an off-piece circlet

[spice pecan]

Nope actually I havent dropped a single crit damage one. Even like a bad one thats why I thought there werent crit damage circlets in the game

[spice pecan]

Yeah im planning to do the Natlan quests I think they give 3 sanctifiyng elixir and I get 1 from transmuter

[quaint fern]

assuming equivalent stats (10 CR circlet) it's about the same

both are 1.4

[lyric cargo]

crit multiplier?

[spice pecan]

I have to go now sadly. Tysm to both of you for help/guidence

[quaint fern]

ye

roughly the same

[lyric cargo]

that does appear to be the case. kinda wild.

cr weapon, lots of cr rolls, cr circlet. my intuition said it's so stacked in that direction that I don't need to calculate 😅

[quaint fern]

yeah tbh I thought that the 75 Cr would be better than 95 Cr too

[lyric cargo]

I guess Tassel is just not a very high cr weapon, and the base ratio of 5 : 50 starts out off-balance enough

plus the 38.4% crit dmg from ascension

[ripe surge]

hutao,furina,kazuha,jean for hutao vape team? or hutao,furina,yelan,kazuha???

[dusty cape]

hu tao furina yelan jean

[ripe surge]

i tried this and hutao dmg isnt as high as i hoped

[dusty cape]

what does the build look like https://enka.network

[lyric cargo]

Hutao, Furina, Yelan, Xilonen

Furina's kit doesn't work if there's no healing

Xilonen is basically Kazuha but with healing instead of grouping

also, she shreds pyro res without needing to trigger a reaction with it, meaning Hutao deals more damage that way as well

[ripe surge]

alr i'll try this. sadly with furina c1, hutao with sig, yelan with sig, hutao personal dmg just falls so low

[ripe surge]

how do i get pyro res tho? i e with hutao first? or burst first so xilo can res shred pyro?

[opal surge]

you get it by default

you dont need to react pyro

hutao yelan furina xilonen is one of the highest dps teams in th e game btw

[ripe surge]

alr i'll show u hutao build as well

[lyric cargo]

Xilonen's res shred doesn't require a reaction, only the 4pc scroll of the hero set

so you get -36% pyro res, -36% hypo res, and +40 hydro dmg%

[limber light]

Deathmatch or jade winged spear for hutao?

[opal surge]

dragons bane

[limber light]

EM?

[opal surge]

it does give EM yes

[limber light]

why EM??

for Hutao tho?

[opal surge]

because she is vaping

its more important than hp for her, at equal distribution

[ripe surge]

should i use instructor on furina or stay at golden troupe 4 pc for hutao vape

[opal surge]

gt

[ripe surge]

my hutao isnt c1 so i cant do many charged atks

[opal surge]

you can do more than enough

[limber light]

I'm not running her with A hydro character

[opal surge]

then you shouldnt play hutao

she does very bad damage in non vape

[limber light]

Deathmatch it is

[ripe surge]

here's my hutao

[opal surge]

Looks fine

artifact quality is a bit on the lower end but it should do fine damage

[limber light]

I don't even have any hydros to use for Hutao if I was gonna do vape

[opal surge]

xingqiu

[limber light]

he's not really built....I gotta build him

[ripe surge]

oh nice, hutao furina vape cleared 12 chamber 1 1st half before 9:00

[limber light]

what about Ayato?? does he do well with her?

[opal surge]

not really, its mostly just xingqiu for solo hydro or a combination of yelan furina and xingqiu for double hydro

[limber light]

.....yeah I don't have yelan or Furina

[bright cape]

is there hp boosting food?

[opal surge]

there is

[bright cape]

thanks

[opal surge]

i think palace jewels a recipe from a 4.x event is the only non specialty hp food though

[bright cape]

looks like i will have to give up on this

not enough dps if i choose survivability

or vice-versa

[sage sail]

what is the date today in asia server? i just want to set my birthday to today bc im making a new acc just for fun

[wind bolt]

should be nov 6

[sage sail]

ty

[lyric cargo]

not sure if setting to today works, if it checks on daily reset

if you're not sure, I'd set it to tomorrow

[sage sail]

it worked

[stiff latch]

not sure if i will but who between nahida and hu tao would fit best into this account?

[dusty cape]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/915180263003267094/1023622356637339658/standard.gif

I’d probably pull nahida since u already have arle for pyro but really up to you

[haughty lotus]

nah, id a

[dusty cape]

https://tenor.com/view/gura-gawr-gif-19004437

[wide dirge]

I switched some artifacts, is this Furina better?

[manic geode]

nocie

[lyric portal]

I want to play cyno baizhu yelan and nahida but I don’t have baizhu

Who is a good baizhu replacement

[wide dirge]

Got a good cup this time, what about this?

[wide dirge]

Yaoyao

[rugged sparrow]

if you're fine with that amount of ER in the team you run, it's a really good build

[wide dirge]

Great, goblet is an improvement right?

[rugged sparrow]

it's a lot better than the one you used before

[wide dirge]

All right, thank you for the help. Where should I test her so I can see if she got enough ER?

If Abyss, which chamber

[lyric portal]

I haven’t been able to pull her 😞

[rugged sparrow]

extreme case is like Masanori

[elder bluff]

the capybara

[rugged sparrow]

abyss chamber just try running continuous from 12-1 to 12-3

on any half

worst come to worst you just run Fav

which should solve the ER issue and you still have a good build

[wide dirge]

It two shot my 69k hp Nilou 😭

[elder bluff]

you are LUCKY it is a two shot

[elder bluff]

most of the time it is one shot

[wide dirge]

This makes her build instantly top 0.001% right?

[wide dirge]

Ok thank you for the advice

[rugged sparrow]

idk about 0.001%

[wide dirge]

HP number makes it top tier 🙏

Has to be the exact number too

(not cope)

[wind bolt]

Not even my nilou is top 0.001

[wide dirge]

Is that real?

She can burst every other rotation with this team. Pretty much expected that

[elder bluff]

that's a strange team but ok

[wide dirge]

Pretty fun

This team (2 fav) can burst every turn. I guess the ER is enough for me

@rugged sparrow Thank you for the help

[elder bluff]

Guess Ill stuck in Waterfall Wen for another month

[rugged sparrow]

u don't want to burst every other rot though on the first team in case you're wondering

[elder bluff]

Too many EM rolls

[wide dirge]

Yeah... Still destroys content, so I'll keep that in mind if I struggle with the team

I just need some sleep 😭

[rugged sparrow]

Navia plays crystallize, surely u want more EM

[wide dirge]

Shield new meta!?

[rugged sparrow]

it's /s

[wide dirge]

😱 This changes everything!

[rugged sparrow]

real

[elder bluff]

no thanks. I got nothing good after 2 weeks farming there
even the 2 pieces in set are not better than the golden troupe piece I placed in her before

[rugged sparrow]

only 2 weeks

who do u think u are, void?

[wide dirge]

I used 6 months to get a vv EM goblet for Kazuha before they added strongholds

It was useless, so I spent the rest of the year to get a goblet with two ER substats 😱

[elder bluff]

in 2 weeks I got way better pieces from Obsidian Codex almost a full set for Mualani if I want to use her

[limber light]

How my kinich

[nova swift]

Not as good as you

[raven valve]

Sorry for seeing this too late but is it wise to get zhongli and skip nuevi, then prolly i will get arle or alhaitham whoever comes first

[sage sail]

fruitful hook could potentially be better on that team

oh wait nvm the guy who sent the navia build is a different person

[sly moss]

What character should I use in Xilonens domain?

[strange scarab]

what domain

[lyric cargo]

so, most of the time Zhongli isn't a "necessary" character. Just nice to have if they put in an abyss like the current one, with geo shields, or very aggressive enemies

Zl is mostly a consideration when you play chars that get easily interrupted (Wanderer, etc)

I'd say skipping Neuv for Alhaitham is bad, if you want to clear content as easily as possible

[raven valve]

I think arle will comes first so i will prolly get her

Is zhongli good with navia tho ?

[lyric cargo]

for Navia, I'd say either Xilonen or Kachina

Zl gives you a shield, which I don't think Navia particularly needs

his geo app is unreliable I heard, since the pillar can be destroyed and doesn't have the biggest range

[keen condor]

how strong is a dps c6 furina without xianyun

im olanning to get 3 more cons when she reruns

[fallen topaz]

Does the timer reset to 8 mins if you accidentally used fragile resin and overcap or does it retain the time before it will go to the next resin?

[elder bluff]

it stops when the resin caps, and no it does not retain the time

[lyric cargo]

it'll reset to 8 mins, yeah. don't overcap

[zinc shoal]

should i get nahida now for aggravate clorinde or get mavuika for burning kinich?

[opal surge]

It's not garantueed that mavuika actually works with kinich

Nahida isn't the biggest upgrade for clorinde, if it's purely clorinde you'd be pulling and you don't just generally want her I'd consider skipping

[zinc shoal]

did you just basically tell me not to gamble

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913018237783003136/1303637162419421236/image0.gif?ex=672c7a37&is=672b28b7&hm=cac52282031c0eaa7e0d6606dcfdad90d7afe2e794c08b46c67b8cae9fd91be0&

[strange scarab]

if mavuikas playable that is

[elder bluff]

no no no
gamble everything you have

what's the fun if not gamble

[zinc shoal]

why not

[strange scarab]

she dead

[zinc shoal]

huh

[lyric cargo]

first impression of the event: this interface is annoying. Where's the button to change equipment before you start?
gotta exit the event to do that
teleport back to overworld, change equipment, then re-enter

it should use the same interface as abyss

[wet plank]

You can change from event screen, it's just uber unintuitive

Click on the char during party setup > details on the bottom right of the screen

[lyric cargo]

huh, thats' very helpful. ty.

When the clear is almost in range, but not quite

I need to pay attention to its special gague..
two times I used Xilonen's skill for res shred right before it summoned its pillars, and I had to wait for her cooldown

[elder bluff]

kazuha e?

[lyric cargo]

oh, that works? I assumed it didn't go high enough

I keep coming up slightly short

~~time to pull Neuv r1 or c1, or Furina c2 to make up the difference ~~

[wind bolt]

C1r1 trust

[wide dirge]

Rizz

[lyric cargo]

TIL: You can use food in the event

what.

[wind bolt]

Yep i used alot of healing ngl

[lyric cargo]

I guess it makes it more bearable for new players?

without affecting gameplay for those that want a difficult challenge

[wind bolt]

I mean just food buff up and clear it even faster

[jolly spire]

How do you build sethos for his burst?

[wet plank]

No food

Oh wait you alr realized

[lyric cargo]

I guess
my attitidue towards food is probably partly because of how it's used in damage per screenshot showcases

it feels like using cheats, generating unrealistic scenarios that won't hold under abyss conditions

[wind bolt]

I just cant be bothered with food outside of the healing ones

[jolly spire]

Upon reavalution his burst is shit

[wind bolt]

U only ca wirh him iirc

[opal surge]

No

U do 8n2w "optimally"

Realistically 7n2w

[wind bolt]

Dang can you write that out for me

Isk what the w stands for

[opal surge]

Walk

It's like | (Charged attack at C6) > Skill > Burst 7x N2 walk cancel

Or 6 or 8 however many U can manage

The only sethos player I know says 7 is doable and 8 is simbait

[wind bolt]

Ive him c5 sadly

[opal surge]

U Just skip the CA at the start pre c6

[lyric cargo]

okay, I give up. I'm always just a sliver of hp short

what's the best food I can use for a Neuv team, that I can easily cook again and not regret using now

[opal surge]

Palace jewel for hp

did you play that event

U took a break in 4.x right

Crate and cdmg food is often the best offensive food in general, especially for neuv, it's

Kinich, neuv, diluc,lyney,qiqi specialty

[lyric cargo]

I don't recognize it, I'll check my cooking pot

[opal surge]

But fishing for specialty dish procs is kinda cringe

But if Ur just a bit short I'd just grab a hydro potion it's prolly good enough

[wind bolt]

Guys is this usable

[pure epoch]

any light spender / dolphin can clear this full stars without Navia? any team recommendation?

[keen willow]

Do you have xilonen

[opal surge]

Post your characters

[pure epoch]

no unfortunately

[keen willow]

How does kinich hit those thingies

[pure epoch]

can just aim high and leap then hit those thingies on pillar

[keen willow]

Well if you build him

[lyric cargo]

TIL: There is a dmg% potion.
I thought they were all res%

[lyric cargo]

Neuv didn't get his burst back so his damage stopped at the end

[opal surge]

[lyric cargo]

maybe it's r1 afterall

[pure epoch]

level aside, prolly gotta farm more of his artifact yea

[bright cape]

@opal surge i finally did it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1294733495343517826/928515871553495091.gif

i was too much hung up on using kachina to get the buff. but after i remove her and xingqiu, it was all over

thank god. there's no hydro immune boss

[opal surge]

Kachina

[dusty cape]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-kachina-silly-dance-gif-791448678345413395

[bright cape]

yah. if we do 2 nightsoul stuff, we get 100% dmg boost

without natlan characters, we cannot trigger that

but that felt like a bait later on.

[lyric cargo]

finally 🎃

51 minutes of uninterrupted attempts

repeatedly being a tiny bit short just to notice the potion had ran out at the end

[lyric cargo]

What did y'all settle on for the turtle?

[opal surge]

the turtle is amongst my fastest ones as mualani owner

[lyric cargo]

right, its shield punishes using many hits

iirc it gets a shield every 45 hits

[elder bluff]

i think kinich can also make quick work of it

dendro + pyro = no shield

[lyric cargo]

hmm, I own neither

I'm thinking something like Neuv Furina Xl Nahida

though Xilonen also seems tempting, with 100% dmg bonus to the on-fielder

when you're trying to run away with Xilonen's skill, but auto targeting makes her run into the spinning turtle

[lyric cargo]

this is my limit for now

[dusty cape]

oh yes I should finish the event

[bright cape]

do you have neuvillette?

[lyric cargo]

yeah

[lyric cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145842643360825344/1297190625451704433/grafik.png?ex=67218ca9&is=67203b29&hm=22ab1e48f916fec387c8ca6cde3af5599b20771328346252b82cdebcdc172f1b&

[lyric cargo]

I tried this, it wasn't bad but didn't quite work

do you have constellations or signature weapons?

[quaint fern]

I can't imagine doing this with neuvi

bro that turtle's range and aoe is so bs

[lyric cargo]

Neuv's ability to move and still attack helps

I'll try it again tomorrow

can't quite remember what the problem actually was

[quaint fern]

I just found energy to be an issue because it's really hard to get rotations off

[opal surge]

energy on neuv

i think your shieldbreak might be too bad with neuv furi xilo kazuha?

[quaint fern]

more worried about the supports tbh

[opal surge]

does the turtle deny energy

[quaint fern]

well when it spins yeah

shield prevents fav triggers

[wet plank]

I rmb someone running neuv furi nahida xl

[quaint fern]

it's probably my skill issue

[wet plank]

If coc spins you're cancelling CA anyways so no shielder isn't a big issue

[quaint fern]

but I had to face tank it inside bennett burst to break the shield

[opal surge]

i think the matchup is just bad

xdd i just tried it

energy is mega fine shield just takes awy too long play xiangling I think @lyric cargo

maybe neuvilette just sucks against this this kinda feels bad

[bright cape]

i have his c1 and he is on pamber.
i found out u can dodge in circles and keep on hitting him at the same time

with both neuvi beam and pyronado at times.

[bright cape]

guoba n bennett break a shield very easily

i have to funnel twice or thrice on xiangling

but that happens as shield is breaking. so fine

[hasty shell]

yall its just the first chamber i cant triple sob

all the other were sweeps with 30-60 secs left total

help sob

i tried clorinde furina yelan nahida first floor raiden xiangling bennet fischl second

my issue is second half

but now i also dont have to use overload for the like other chambers

[bright cape]

try using zhongli n chiori. they should help a lot with geo shields

[hasty shell]

chiori ig

[bright cape]

how do u display characters like this?

[hasty shell]

the blessing gives 120 def but i feel like my issue is dmg

my issue is dmg

even tho the other floors were sweeps

[bright cape]

after breaking shield, bennett xiangling should do the trick

[hasty shell]

huh

okok, tho xiangling rn is on soss

so should i swap to an engulfing build

[bright cape]

it might help with er needs

i don't see fischl

[hasty shell]

first pic

just a few charas that r like lvl 20 i cut out at the end too

[bright cape]

my bad. i am blind

[hasty shell]

its finee sob

[quaint fern]

this might be kinda cope but you can try clorinde nahida double geo? (if shields are the issue)

[bright cape]

i once did a neuvi fist half and raiden fischl xl bennett

[hasty shell]

ig ill just try this

[hasty shell]

overload tho

[bright cape]

this should do the trick

[hasty shell]

raiden is free so would pair up great with xiangling

[quaint fern]

yeah that should be fine

[bright cape]

the idea is basically try to complete 1st chamber in one minute

so u can fool around in 2nd chamber

[hasty shell]

i clear it in like 830

yea

[quaint fern]

uh i'd probably put bennett before xiangling tho

[hasty shell]

i cand ef improve first chamber

[quaint fern]

I'm pretty sure you want chiori's skill to swap into bennett

[hasty shell]

wouldnt u want chiori dmg to be better

his burst

she has a burst nuke too

[quaint fern]

is bennett uptime long enough?

[hasty shell]

prlly?

just for the nukes maybe not for raiden nas

[quaint fern]

idk if you care about getting it on chiori or raiden

[hasty shell]

i do

[opal surge]

chiori doesnt snapshot it doesnt matter

just do chiori ee bennet eq xiangling eq raiden stuff chiori q

[hasty shell]

okay ty

[quaint fern]

use raiden e first tho

[hasty shell]

mhm

[opal surge]

i think the issue is probably your clorinde team though

[hasty shell]

pain maybe another day this blessing would be smth else

[bright cape]

how good is chiori at breaking geo shield?

[opal surge]

not good

[hasty shell]

• overload i feel like should be ifne

[quaint fern]

her supplemental geo + overload should be fine tho

[bright cape]

@hasty shell then i would replace chiori with fischl

[quaint fern]

I usually make do with zhongli so chiori should be fine

[hasty shell]

yea thats what i did first run

[bright cape]

raiden fischl bennett xiangling sounds fun

[hasty shell]

where i need ot clear full abyss

[hasty shell]

id prlly use chev instead of bennett but shes not built

[bright cape]

i heard zhongli is good at breaking shield. but his normals are physical

[opal surge]

u can prolly just do fischl nahida zl clorinde tbh bottom half

[quaint fern]

nah i'm pretty sure chev's dmg% isn't worth losing the atk

[opal surge]

zl doesnt normal attack to break shield his e just has high gu app

[bright cape]

i see.

i wann pull him next year

[quaint fern]

you normally see chev and bennett used at the same time anyways

[opal surge]

for raiden u can drop bennet

in favor of xiangling for offfield pyro app if u do sara

[hasty shell]

i need two rotations to clear one of the like scorpions

or bird

[opal surge]

ye the team is kinda sus

[hasty shell]

one does like exactly half dmg

[opal surge]

clorinde with no fischl is kinda bricked xd

[hasty shell]

it did much better tho

like def

quickbloom

[bright cape]

i want mavuika to be great on-fielder

no icd pyro app

[opal surge]

welcome back hutao

[quaint fern]

and I want her to be dehya pro max plus ultra xtx super ti

[bright cape]

that works too

[hasty shell]

im hoping she produces phlogistion and lets it be used outside of natlan at like base or c1 o rsmth

[quaint fern]

okay nah

[hasty shell]

tbh

[quaint fern]

thats a bit much

furina was balanced around hp drain

[bright cape]

she is gonna make codex set viable for non-natlan characters

just like furina made hunter set viable on everyone

[opal surge]

she wont

[quaint fern]

but giving everyone access to hero and obsidian LITERALLY powercreeps all other artifacts

[opal surge]

quote me on this when she releases

[hasty shell]

no only for natlan chara si mean

[opal surge]

its not happening

[bright cape]

i dunno. i haven't used the new set on anyone

[hasty shell]

lets natlan charas use phlogistion outside of natlan pls

pslplspls

[quaint fern]

there will be no other artifacts that you use in the team besides hero, obsidian, and random support sets/emblem for high ER characters

[bright cape]

ngl. i am more hyped for citlali than mavuika

[dusty cape]

[quaint fern]

tbh I want citalli to be a buffer, if she did smth cool with gadgets or something that would be interesting

[bright cape]

it still requires farming n it's inflexible

i know alhaitham could do better with marechausee.
but he is staying on his old set

[quaint fern]

we don't really have great, persistant off field cryo except rosaria so I could see her being off field cryo but we don't really have a need for that so idk

[hasty shell]

like the enemies seprate

[bright cape]

she will have cryonado trust

[hasty shell]

is the main issue in floor two

[quaint fern]

cryo venti

[bright cape]

both xiangling and citlali melting everyone

[hasty shell]

and i dont hit both at the same time but i swear if i did i would be easy

[bright cape]

no a stuff rotating around her with no icd cryo app

[quaint fern]

actually thats probably the issue stopping pyro characters from melting

[dusty cape]

cryonado

[quaint fern]

no one has fast enough application except for c2 ayaka

(last I checked)

[bright cape]

i have not touched cryo at all in genshin

[opal surge]

forward melt needs absurd cryo app

[bright cape]

only built charlotte for neuvi

[opal surge]

unless ur name is gaming

you either need to apply 2u consistently or apply it like guoba + pyronado on crack

imagine the cryo app u would need to keep up with hutao

[bright cape]

i don't remember U of anyone

except bennett n nahida

[quaint fern]

unless hoyo gives as a new cryo healer + buffer in one idk what would be needed for cryo comps rn

we have enough dps

[opal surge]

just needs a double cryo core imo

doubt one cryo can solve it alone

tsaritsa + cryo neuvilette true

[quaint fern]

the double cryo core rn is shenhe + dps or charlotte + dps (if furina)

[bright cape]

cryo is too OP when it works

[quaint fern]

smh hoyo should let a frozen aura exist on bosses but not actually freeze them

[bright cape]

they can at least say make bosses slow

[quaint fern]

we've gotten enough crit rate buffs to where bliz isn't even crazy now

[opal surge]

freeze is whatever there is just a damage issue

[quaint fern]

removing 20 from bliz and 15 from resonance is crazy

[opal surge]

they could perma freeze abyss forever I wouldnt play it still

[quaint fern]

the issue with perma freeze is that there's no way to amplify damage

we used to have crazy crit rate from bliz but 40 isn't even that crazy anymore

[opal surge]

cryo resonance rework + delete freeze and give damage instead w/e

[bright cape]

yah. freeze is very game breaking

[opal surge]

its really not

[quaint fern]

freeze should be changed to do DoT or smth

[opal surge]

freeze is really not useful nowadays

[quaint fern]

we don't get 2x or 1.5x multis

[opal surge]

even if they could get frozen

[quaint fern]

taser did not need a buff

who is playing shatter

[bright cape]

the reason no one is playing is exactly why they buffed

but i heard it's not enough

[quaint fern]

hoyo buffs those reactions but not crystalize, freeze

[opal surge]

its not like you can play shatter

its a byproduct of freeze its not something you can actively target to get

to drive damage

[bright cape]

i like taser buff though

[quaint fern]

I can't wait for the shatter buff to raise my freeze wriothesley team dps by 0.00001%

[bright cape]

my raiden is gonna have few more options

[dusty cape]

shatter eula

[bright cape]

doesn't eula shatter by default?

when played with furina

[hasty shell]

omg ok

[lyric cargo]

I took the battle chronicle page and modified it to add drag N drop

[hasty shell]

first half cleared quicker a bit like 5 secs

how do i lure the enemies

in the second one so i hit both at the same time

mainly the natlan vishaps

[quaint fern]

vishaps should just come to you?

[hasty shell]

oh

i go to them

yea sobb

idk how to make this work just the second half needs so much dmg

[bright cape]

i would just go with zhongli n ur best dps then

[opal surge]

just play clorinde fischl nahida zl

[hasty shell]

ive never had the geo shields be an issue prlly bc i dont make it to the third wave

b4 7 mins

[bright cape]

would it be game breaking if hoyo made geo constructs indestructible with enemy hits?

[hasty shell]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1279926087622856826.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=thalassaderp er needs who i just need to clear this chamber

[opal surge]

it would be whatever

[hasty shell]

okay this clears faster, 840

okay i reach third wave by 720 and clear by 646 or so

all my problems would be fixed if i just cleared like in 1 min

first half

imjust gonna pray that in the coming days we'll get an op blessing

for this chamber only

also gonna build nahida to be better in the comign days(just goign from80 88 to 10 10 and 90)

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1083056043526979714.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[fiery wigeon]

Is Nahida, Kazuha, Xingqiu and kuki an alright team?

[bright cape]

replace kazuha with someone else

like yelan, alhaitham, fischl

if well built, just nahida, xingqiu, kuki makes for a great team

[tawdry juniper]

any way to get past this? i wanna finish the last part of the event quest but i neither have the time nor do i want to do the archon quest rn

[quaint fern]

Nope

[foggy phoenix]

should i focuz on ascending all my charcters to max or getting lvl 90 1 by 1

[quaint fern]

Most characters don't need lvl 90

[zenith thicket]

80 is enough

getting them to level 90 is alot and like ten? characters even want that much

low key im getting cooked on floor 12 help

[quaint fern]

Characters that need it are those that have damage scaling on HP > def (to a lesser extent) > atk (basically no change from 80 to 90) and those who are transformative reaction triggers (swirl (tho swirl doesn't really need it), bloom and bloom derivatives, electro charged)

[zenith thicket]

isnt hyperbloom also calculated on levels or

[dusty cape]

bloom derivatives

[zenith thicket]

o

[zenith thicket]

^
but like idk what team to make here i got one star on chamber one and i dont even know what the enemies are like

[tawdry juniper]

alright thanks

guess ill just watch it on youtube 😔

[haughty lotus]

Ayaka Furina Kazuha Mika
Raiden bennett xiangling chevreuse/xingqiu

[bright cape]

i would do main dps 10 levels higher than other 3

like 50-40-40-40. then gradually take maindps to 80

[lyric cargo]

it's not synergistic (Kazuha is a dmg% buffer, which doesn't buff hyperbloom dmg)

he shreds pyro/hydro/electro/cryo resistance with 4pc VV, but hyperbloom deals dendro dmg

Nahida's strong dendro application tends to make dendro the aura, which anemo can't react with

[lyric cargo]

that said, it can be surprisingly alright if you don't have other options:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1147142797992935514/hb-vs-crab.mp4?ex=672d583b&is=672c06bb&hm=b98cfc5a491bb680cbfe069632dfc46408e5272a3742d5c9a0e9767fa7016fb3&

[lyric cargo]

yeah, lvl 80 → lvl 90 is a 34% increase in hyperbloom dmg

kuki/raiden on an account that plays hyperbloom is probably the highest priority out of all

[strange scarab]

help me gimshim-help

[dusty cape]

gobals

[zenith thicket]

yes sigma im here to help

[strange scarab]

help who is this 1 blocked message under you

[dusty cape]

[haughty lotus]

Gobbles

[zenith thicket]

didnt work thats what i did

is it just like investment check or what

[lyric cargo]

try Raiden Bennett Xiangling Fischl

usually not a great team, but it should break the geo shields faster

I've cleared consistently with it

my first half was Neuv Furina Xil Kaz though, so super fast side 1

[quaint fern]

1st half is DPS check, 2nd half is DPS check with geo shield check (bring geo/overload/plunge/claymore)

[zenith thicket]

are there any geo characters i have worth investing in?
i've been getting slapped by those since forever

[quaint fern]

Not really

Does quickswap GMC apply enough to break the shield?

[lyric cargo]

Kachina is ok, she can give a 40 dmg% buff with the scroll set

I'd probably go overload, though

[zenith thicket]

i think the cooldown is huge no?

[quaint fern]

Yeah kachina can work but you don't really build her

Just slap fav + scroll

She does negligible DMG so I wouldn't even bother leveling talents

[dusty cape]

🦃

[haughty lotus]

You don’t have the greatest of characters for it and you’re ar56 so I wouldn’t expect 9 stars

[zenith thicket]

i got like 8 like 2 abysses ago

but not passing chamber one was something that happened like a year ago not now 😭

[dusty cape]

time to lock in

[forest venture]

no way chevruse and raiden overload team got buffed

[lyric cargo]

buffed by pulling c6 chev + "accidental" c2 Raiden along the way?

[forest venture]

4pc thundering fury/4pc cwf more use but idk how much value they will add to the base dmg

[full sonnet]

Anyone here

[forest venture]

👀

[full sonnet]

How bad would it be to give Hu Tao attack over Pyro damage to get 20% more crit rate

And 60% crit damage

I either swap out the artifacts for better ones and have no Pyro damage or keep my 40% 120% crit ratio

@forest venture

[cedar flint]

atk is pretty sketchy on hu Tao

[ebon phoenix]

Guys, best set for chevreuse??

[cedar flint]

personally I use that buffing set from the Navia domain

to maximize her support

[full sonnet]

But more crit damage tho

[ebon phoenix]

Wym

[full sonnet]

I wanna get blackcliff

[forest venture]

what's your current crit ratio?

[full sonnet]

40% 120%

[cedar flint]

damn

[ebon phoenix]

Just stack hp on that set?

[cedar flint]

well you only started building her

[full sonnet]

46% 124% specifically

[cedar flint]

I gave her hp hp healing bonus and hp weapon from event

[ebon phoenix]

How much hp and which event weap

[cedar flint]

the magical girl one

[forest venture]

okay it's a lot worse if you give her attack

because her skill offers more attack than an atk goblet

[cedar flint]

but the 3* tassel should be firm too cus it gives hp

[ebon phoenix]

OHHHHH i finally can use that one

[forest venture]

do you have dragon's bane

[cedar flint]

she needs 40k hp at least to give max atk buff with one of her passives

[full sonnet]

Yep refinement 5 level 70

[forest venture]

yes use that

[ebon phoenix]

Thats the only stat i need to maintain??
What abt er

[forest venture]

you will actually get enough em for vapes

[cedar flint]

her burst is useless if you plan to make her pure support

[full sonnet]

It doesn't deactivate if you vaporize right? Does it stay a active for a second?

[ebon phoenix]

So no need of burst for a arrle overload team?

[forest venture]

hydro or pyro, you trigger both of it

[full sonnet]

Cause Hu Tao charge attack hits multiple times

[cedar flint]

you can use it for fun or if you need to trigger overload for her charged bullet and it can group up small enemies a bit

[forest venture]

the passive stays as long as you apply pyro or hydro

[full sonnet]

I was pulling for Shinobu and got her first constellation

If I didn't get I would never have built her

[forest venture]

c1 doesn't do anything, but c2 does

[full sonnet]

Infinite charge attack

[forest venture]

oh it's hu tao

[full sonnet]

Using her with Thoma is a bit silly but he's my best shielder next to layla

Since she doesn't basic attack a lot

[forest venture]

i don't think you need a shielder, you can dash for iframes now while having enough stamina

[full sonnet]

Im not that guy

[forest venture]

you will also want low hp too xD

[full sonnet]

What's the max threshold for her ultimate

Like 15%?

[forest venture]

just 50%

[full sonnet]

Oh I was waiting till her hp turned red

Very dangerous

I could steal my hp goblet from Bennet instead of Pyro damage and have my full set

Im using shimenawas

The goblets got 9% crit rate and 7% crit damage

The one I got on has nothing

[forest venture]

just farm more

[full sonnet]

I've used 20 condensed resin

Does Hu Tao have more i-frames or is her dash just fancy

[forest venture]

both

[full sonnet]

Does the dash on the health bar line up with 50%?

[forest venture]

dash on the health bar?

[full sonnet]

/*

That symbol

[rugged sparrow]

20 condensed is literally less than a week's worth of resin though

[full sonnet]

[forest venture]

the slash? possible, it's aligned in the middle of the health bar

but maybe get behind the hp value

[full sonnet]

Well I'll pick this up tomorrow I'm Done with genshin tonight

Just did 9 condensed resin and did hard theatre mode for the first time

Took 10 minutes

[haughty lotus]

Scroll or noblesse if no one has it

[haughty lotus]

Don’t

[full sonnet]

Having two deathmatches would be weird and her crit ratio sucks

[haughty lotus]

That’s an artifact problem

and you’d get ballad anyways

[full sonnet]

Would be machetes hunter be good on her?

[haughty lotus]

With Furina

[full sonnet]

Does furina have to be healed by another character to heal everyone cause when I was using nuvilette him healing himself procd it but using Hu Tao and xin qiu it's not

[quaint fern]

furina will only heal with singers active

[wet plank]

That's a lie btw other furinas in coop can proc it from other furina's healing

[jolly junco]

It's in the notes on the wiki

I just didn't bother including it because coop is a waste of time

[wet plank]

O

[lyric cargo]

it's weird, multiple Furinas in coop share the same 1 summon

[full sonnet]

Ahh overflowing healing

[jade tendon]

For arle nuke, R1 homa or R5 CMS?

[neon harness]

:😌 rel

[neon harness]

What is cms

[rugged sparrow]

Crimson Moon Semblance, her sig

[neon harness]

wouldn’t her sig be better, especially at r5

[wet plank]

Nuke doesn't care about cr

But r5 passive so idk homeless or sig

Probably still homeless anyways if against wayob

[opal surge]

wait is it just me or was the nahida flagship event kinda up for really little time

-1 crown

[neon wave]

was pretty short too
it felt like a long cutscene and some minigames

[opal surge]

[sly moss]

Any helpers?

[lyric cargo]

maybe post in #👥gimshim-coop

make sure to include which server you're playing on

[tawdry leaf]

Hu tao worth pulling?

[lyric cargo]

I'd wait for Arlecchino

[lyric cargo]

also, wait and see what the archon does imo

[lyric cargo]

can you post a screenshot of your char list?
https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html

what sells this banner is the 4-star char pool, though it's better for Nahida than Hutao

[jolly junco]

there's not really a big difference damage wise between hu tao and arlecchino until you start getting to c2+ level since hu tao only has one good constellation

[opal surge]

the biggest difference is the amount of hassle/skill to play either

arle has a much easier time doing damage but is at much higher risk of dying

[jolly junco]

arle has the advantage of not just vape and some AoE I suppose

[tawdry leaf]

Uhh there is an issue
I was just doing random pulls and got hu tao..😭

[jolly junco]

but then the disadvantage of less sustain and more reliant on bennett

[opal surge]

shes arguably still one of the best DPS in the game ur fine

[jolly junco]

why do you ask if hu tao is worth pulling after you pull her

[tawdry leaf]

Hmmm 😭😭😭
I have issues

[jolly junco]

she's still a strong DPS

[rugged sparrow]

[jolly junco]

just lacks AoE and takes some skill to play well

[neon wave]

she's good
though pulling randomly will ruin the chances of getting characters you actually want

[rugged sparrow]

I mean c0 DPSes are relatively the same anyway

[opal surge]

her best team uses both furina and xilonen which arguably could be a downside ig

[tawdry leaf]

Oh no

[opal surge]

but she has good options teamwise

[tawdry leaf]

Ig i fked up then

[rugged sparrow]

why

if you have Xq you can play Hu Tao

the +2 are pretty adjustable

[jolly junco]

there's plenty of good teams which use neither furina and xilonen as well

[opal surge]

[tawdry leaf]

Ohhhh

[rugged sparrow]

like sure they're not her best team, but it's not like you need best team to clear abyss / the more difficult content

[tawdry leaf]

Thatss alright then

[rugged sparrow]

but if u dont have Xq it's an entirely diff story

Furina + Yelan or bricked

[lyric cargo]

from what I've heard, Arle just has various small advantages? (more frontload, stronger in 2nd rotation and after because of bond of life carryover)

and yeah, if you later decide to vertically invest you'll wish you went for Arle rather than Hutao

[tawdry leaf]

I have xq im fine then 😅

[lyric cargo]

oh, if you already got her then that's completely different

[tawdry leaf]

Yeahh..

[lyric cargo]

one being slightly better (in my opinion) doesn't make the other one bad, I'd still build her

[opal surge]

hu tao got a 90k team with xilonen

[lyric cargo]

oh, Arle can't match that?

[opal surge]

it depends

[tawdry leaf]

At the end she is fun to play with so ig its okk..

[lyric cargo]

What I like most about Arle is her teams work well as a second side next to Neuvilette

[jolly junco]

she can if you play shieldless

or whale

or get r1

[opal surge]

it also depends on assumptions, if you never burst on shieldless arle and still somehow sheet/sim for 5-6 rotations then you arrive at stuff like the 104k gcsim scam for arle overload

but like

[lyric cargo]

yeah, shieldless no burst seems like a sheet thing ^^

actually part of why I haven't considered Arle myself: I prefer comfort
so I'd probably consider Arle + Zhongli to avoid having to reset

same situation Hutao is in, I guess. Many play her with Zl

[opal surge]

i think hutao is kinda hard do die with, you're playing 3 hp scalers with hydro resonance + a healer

and you have a get out of jail card with hu tao burst

if u play like funerational or something thats a different story ig

I think the biggest issue with tao is that she feels so bad to play until you get used to her (that was my experience at least)

but now I love playing her

[jolly junco]

i dont like playing c0 hu tao anyway

its not that jump cancels are hard because they're easy but it's just a lot slower than dash cancels and less iframe time

c1 hu tao is fun though

[rugged sparrow]

just play Klee 😎

[lyric cargo]

and then there's not cancelling at all, the way a new player who just picked her up might play her

(Is CA spam still the play, if you don't cancel?)

[jolly junco]

i'd just be the same combos but without cancelling

[opal surge]

it just looks a lot more goofy and obviously she loses quite a bit of theoretical dps, but shes still pretty playable without cancels

[wet plank]

Tao or arle debate when the answer is to clearly just get mua

Smh

[jolly junco]

at c0 it's almost the same theoretical damage as jump cancels

the main issue with not cancelling is positioning when there are multiple enemies

[strange scarab]

Can mua beat this

[opal surge]

i do dash a few times on tao at c0 anyway but its obviously biased im not really expecting to play multiple rotations

[wet plank]

she runs codex so yeah

[lyric cargo]

this is the only part that made me avoid her in the past (back before Arle existed)

I heard Arle's AoE doesn't really matter outside specific situations either, though.

[wet plank]

Tao stuck to mh 36 cr

[jolly junco]

I dunno where you heard that but it does matter

[lyric cargo]

ah

[wet plank]

It's less so the actual AoE and arle actually having some horizontal splash

Tao's CA just splashes in a straight line

Or not splash at all if canceled well

Please do not the leeker cc

[lyric cargo]

the video has no leaks, I thought it's fine then?

I'll delete it

[wet plank]

If the cc themselves regularly deal with them it's still a nogo

[opal surge]

i am quite tempted by the hutao banner tempting me with c1 though

[lyric cargo]

ah, ok. I've seen Zajef linked before

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[wet plank]

C1 tao is pretty fun, though the main bait is not having stamina issues

10N2CD still eats your stamina

It's less annoying than C0 since you're actually dashing throughout the combo for iframes but it's something to keep in mind

[opal surge]

i played one in theater and it feels way better to play ye

but my chasca funds have suffered enough from nahida already sadly

[spice pecan]

Hello I'm still a bit new to genshin and there are a couple things I dotn understand with xinqui and reactions.
So I use Arlechino as main dps and I've just built a proper xinqui before using xinqui I used to hit like 30k ish to spesific enemies. Now with xinqui's burst I see 50k pyro damage and 4-5k hydro damage. Is my Arlechino hitting more because of vaporize? And if its the hydro reaction that increases the most then having better crit stats on xinqui only effects the hydro damage right?

[wet plank]

Yes to both

[spice pecan]

Okay and how do I make sure my Arlechino is causing the vaperize and not my xinqui bc I want my arlechino to do it because of the damage increase right?

[wet plank]

You can attack once before doing arle's CA to ensure hydro is on the enemy

[spice pecan]

whats CA

[wet plank]

Charged attack/hold

[forest venture]

car aircon

[spice pecan]

oh so I do 1 attack which makes xinqui apply hydro then I do CA with arlechino to vape xinquis hydro right?

[wet plank]

CA for arle to claim her bond of life and get her bonus multiplier, then you normal attack as usual

[spice pecan]

oh okay okay

[sick quarry]

If Qiqi building.

Is she physical?

[lyric cargo]

it depends on what your goal is in doing so

Qiqi has several downsides which would normally lead to using other chars instead

but there are also reasons to build her, like needing another char for Imaginarium theater
or preference for the character

for theater, I'd say lvl70 her and give her a minimal build
but I'd only do so when cryo is actually in theater and she is needed

[lyric cargo]

she doesn't generate particles
so teams with Qiqi will require building more energy recharge on your carry than without
she also doesn't apply that much cryo, and doesn't have much additional ultity on top of being a healer

if you want to on-field her, I'd say
either Nahida Xingqiu Raiden/Kuki
or c6 Bennett, Xianyun, Furina

if you want Qiqi herself to deal the damage, the plunge team would give the best results
but if that doesn't feel right, I guess physical or some other weapon infusion

physical is quite the neglected archetype though

[bright cape]

is it nice to have r5 kitain cross spear for xiangling?

[lyric cargo]

--
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Enemy

Elite Enemies generally drop 5 Mora per level
hmm, did WL9 increase elite enemy level?

I thought 600 mora was the old max, but I still haven't seen more than 600

[elder bluff]

they have a cap

[lyric cargo]

it's niche for her, I think
it can be used, but Catch and Dragon's Bane are ranked higher

[lyric cargo]

ah, so 600 is the max but some enemies drop more now?

[elder bluff]

Elite Enemies generally drop 5 Mora per level, although the values vary based on difficulty - weak Elite Enemies, like Mitachurls, cap at 200, moderates like adult Rifthounds cap at 400, while particularly strong and/or rares like Lawachurls cap at 600 Mora. Rocky Avildsen and Liam drop 50 Mora per level and cap at 3000

[lyric cargo]

because this "Ruin Guard" (according to interactive map) just gave me 600
I could swear it was a Ruin Grader though

[sick quarry]

And guess what

Im having fun with qiqi

[lyric cargo]

I was assuming these were calculated values from their level, and 5 mora per level was what actually determines it

[sick quarry]

Im using sac sword on her

[lyric cargo]

lvl 103 ruin guard gave 200
so yeah, it's capped

likely meaning that what's tagged as ruin guard on the map must've been a ruin grader

[elder bluff]

it's also likely they put a ruin grader there, but switched to a ruin guard later and forget to update the mora

[bright cape]

i heard it greatly reduces ER. so was considering it for solo use without bennett like with neuvi team. just for shield breaking

i am already mid way building it for thoma

[lyric cargo]

if she's providing aura, the EM isn't that useful (she might steal some vapes, so that's the usecase of EM here)
I'd use fav in that case, maybe even with 2pc emblem 2pc scroll of the hero
if your ER req is high

[opal surge]

Fav

[bright cape]

it's weird though fav has lower er than catch

[opal surge]

2pc scroll 2p emblem 280er fav xiangling my beloved

[lyric cargo]

fav also produces additional particles

[rugged sparrow]

but it generates particles

[bright cape]

is this xiangling build used by mualani teams?

[opal surge]

I actually only have 260 I think but I use it in every team I use xiangling in

[bright cape]

only 260?

i barely touch 230 with catch

does thoma need r5 kitain?

i have been collecting pink rocks for past 2 days

[rugged sparrow]

r5 Kitain

is nice

[lyric cargo]

this one looks a lot like a ruin grader to me as well
maybe they got upgraded by WL9

I can't actually find the other two
maybe they don't respawn

[elder bluff]

elemental sight can be used to check monster names

[lyric cargo]

oh

I'll check when it respawns

[fading axle]

I don't seem to be able to get the best out of my Hu Tao. Just got C1, can anyone help me, please?

[lyric cargo]

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this will allow us to take into account your weapon, and see which artifacts are realistic to improve

which team are you using with her? do you have Xilonen?

[fading axle]

first of all, thank you kindly!
I do, I have Xilonne, Kazuha, Xingqiu and Yelan

[lyric cargo]

Furina as well, or not yet?

[fading axle]

Yes, I've got her

[lyric cargo]

Her best team now is Hutao, Furina, Yelan, Xilonen now I believe

[fading axle]

Good to know! I've been using Arlecchino a lot, but I'd really like to use Hu Tao as well, everyone says she's so strong

I'll definitely try out this team!

[neon harness]

😌zhongli

[quaint fern]

if you're running her with furina, it's better to farm marechaussee rather than crimson

the only caveat being that she'll be locked to furina teams

[neon harness]

Idk, hutao if u got skill issue, c1

Raiden c2

[lyric cargo]

when in doubt, most new chars have good early cons

many are kinda narrow, like Xianyun c2.
Xianyun is only for plunge, Furina is for pretty much any team

I'd say Kazuha c2 is fairly narrow and not worth including on the list

not all his teams actually value the EM buff

I also think the list is somewhat biased by pretending constellations are the only form of vertical investment

getting r1 if often just as valid

Nahida is good if you play a lot of older dendro teams, but she doesn't get many new teams anymore

[elder bluff]

hmm

[quaint fern]

84/240? try getting into the 90s for crit rate

Otherwise looks fine

[cloud plover]

is frostbearer catalyst from dragonspine a good weapon

[haughty lotus]

No

[cloud plover]

but so much work to getting it smh 😔

I have a catalyst and claymore billet, what weapons should I make with this roster?

current equipped weapons
mualani: ring of yaxche
chiori: harbinger of dawn
gaming: earth shaker
freminet: snow-tombed starsilver
fischl: stringless
bennett: prototype rancour
xiangling: favonius lance
xingqiu: sacrificial sword
kachina: footprint of rainbow
candace: favonius lance
lisa: widsith
amber: favonius warbow
barbara: ash-graven drinking horn
lynnette: favonius sword

oh right i also own rust, dragonspine spear, eye of perception, and dragon's bane

[haughty lotus]

Who do you plan on using

[opal surge]

Refine ring

[cloud plover]

crafting? okay

[cloud plover]

qiqi /jjjjj actually maybe but I wanna make a gaming dps team and then another chiori dps team

[cloud plover]

but i actually don't really enjoy using mualani at all that much because i didn't plan on getting her, i pulled on her banner on accident, and she all of a suddenly decided to appear instead of kazuha

still mad abt that, i could have made so many good teams with kazuha

but unfortunately, i got her instead

anyway

it is what it is, c'est la vie

[haughty lotus]

You don’t have many teams for Kazuha

Mualani is the better choice tbh

[dusty cape]

so you pulled on the wrong banner?

[haughty lotus]

Craft tidal shadow for gaming

[cloud plover]

still don't really enjoy her playstyle, will be waiting for kazuha reurun

they work together well anyways

[cloud plover]

where can i craft that one? if i have to go to inazuma i can't bc not ar leveled yet

[haughty lotus]

Fontaine

Check the build guide in the pins to see if you have something better for him, like rain slasher or the 5 stars

[cloud plover]

fontaine is doable, i will craft it then

[cloud plover]

i don't have rainslasher or the other 5-stars, but thank you for your insight!

[bright cape]

that's really impressive with pamber.

[zenith thicket]

dont have kuki, would lisa or fischl be good for hyperbloom in place of raiden?

[haughty lotus]

Use raiden or don’t play it

[zenith thicket]

😔

low key what artifact sets go on who? if i had like nahida raiden yaoyao xq

[crude snow]

Deepwood, paradise, clam, emblem.

[zenith thicket]

XQ emblem? is his personal damage high enough to not do like instructor or smth

[opal surge]

characters need to do damage in hyperbloom the reaction alone isnt actually that insane dps wise

ure already running yaoyao instead of an offensive 4th slot you cant give up on xq damage as well

[zenith thicket]

who would work instead of yaoyao? i have tighnari and the dendro four stars

[opal surge]

I cant recommend a good 4th slot unless I recommend you to play healerless

Since U are using raiden instead of kuki

[zenith thicket]

im the dodge king its calm dw

[opal surge]

Then yelan

[oak crown]

Tips for making hyperbloom party?
Raiden, Yae, Kuki
Yelan, Nilou, Xinqiu,
Nahida
Kazuha

[haughty lotus]

Nahida xingqiu yelan raiden/kuki

[oak crown]

Prefered artifact sets?

[haughty lotus]

Deepwood, emblem, emblem, fopl/gilded

[scenic plover]

I’ve been struggling with this for hours.. does anyone know what to do?

[forest venture]

lighting the torch will change the torches that are connected to the line

[neon harness]

Find a YouTube video and relogin the game to reset the puzzle

[scenic plover]

It won’t, even if get out of the quest the current torch’s remain the same and I’ve watched videos already

[neon wave]

did you solve it

[forest breach]

Any team suggestions?

[versed marsh]

kuki
collei/dendro traveler if u can get him
xingqiu/barbara [xingqiu better]
keqing ig...?

[forest breach]

Okay thanks

[versed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/citlali-genshin-hmph-pout-gif-16721772209010237928

[rugged sparrow]

you want double dendro with hyperbloom without Nahida

[versed marsh]

early game would be easy anyway~

[rugged sparrow]

might as well run a national team atp

[lyric cargo]

mmh, burst focused team in overworld when getting enough ER might be a struggle early on

[rugged sparrow]

but it's the better investment over hyperbloom w/o Nahida eventually

[haughty lotus]

You still have to burst on dmc and xingqiu

[rugged sparrow]

and Collei

[keen willow]

I hope they rerun furina today

[quaint fern]

ganyu SURELY

[scenic plover]

Nope ☹️

[keen willow]

Did you light them like you make a star on paper

[wary warren]

it’s friday let me farm 😭

[rugged sparrow]

pretty sure the daily reset is at 3 am

[wary warren]

OH

oh my glob thank you my brain didn’t equate the midnight factor oughhh I am stupid ty xoxo

[neon harness]

Om

[wary warren]

it’s okay i was being crazy

[neon wave]

find which step you're at and follow this
or send another screenshot

a lot of puzzle solutions are in the explo doc in pins btw

[true depot]

(need help for imaginarium theater) hello for those who have a well built alhaitham, clorinde, cyno, hu tao, c2 raiden, can you pls add me (arlecchino pfp) ASIA 858882533, would really appreciate to borrow one of them to help me clear IT

[strange scarab]

no

[neon harness]

Ba

[quaint fern]

Za

[haughty lotus]

Ta

[strange scarab]

Wa

[lyric cargo]

somehow this looks suddently very empty

[lyric cargo]

maybe it really did last longer before. I can't recall the event menu being this empty

[lyric cargo]

--
For Feast of Pursuit:
If I drink a hydro dmg% potion and a pyro dmg% one, will they stack or replace each other?

seems they replace each other

[rugged sparrow]

food buff of the same type doesn't stack

[lyric cargo]

guess my Furina will deal slightly more and Xiangling slightly less

[rugged sparrow]

can just crit food (Diluc or Qiqi's sig dish) + HP food (Dehya or Furina's sig dish) + pyro pot to compensate for XL

[lyric cargo]

might have to
I have the most scuffed team for the turtle, but it kinda works
except for being a little bit short on damage

Xilonen, Furina, Xianyun, Xiangling

[rugged sparrow]

what Xianyun doing

[lyric cargo]

buffing and a few plunges

[rugged sparrow]

[lyric cargo]

oh, Xy
I thought Xil

[rugged sparrow]

that's certainly a team choice

[lyric cargo]

I don't have a shielder leveled, and Xilonen's burst is lvl 1

[rugged sparrow]

time to level it up

[lyric cargo]

so with kazuha in that slot, it's death

[lyric cargo]

waiting for overflowing mastery

[rugged sparrow]

I did turtle with Navia/Furina/Yelan/Xilo

wasn't the most ideal but it's my friendship pt right now for Xilo so

[lyric cargo]

all my friendship comes from teapot

I refuse to tie my overworld teams to it, I pretty much use whatever gives good mobility

right now it's Xianyun Furina Xilonen Sayu

[lyric cargo]

I tried Ga Ming over Xl, but he died pretty easily

can't really dodge while plunging

[lyric cargo]

close, with just a pyro dmg% potion

I switched Xl back to 4pc emblem
from 2pc emblem 2pc scroll
and focused on funneling her fav particles from Xilonen + Xianyun

[lyric cargo]

Finally

[opal surge]

[bright cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915180263003267094/1294733495343517826/928515871553495091.gif

[lyric cargo]

230 ER Xl

I didn't know I could give her that much without completely messing up her build

[bright cape]

i find anything below 220 uncomfortable

[lyric cargo]

normally she runs this, with Raiden

[bright cape]

this looks worse than 229 one

[lyric cargo]

worse than 230ER?

[bright cape]

yah

[lyric cargo]

yeah, I like the change

lost a lot of EM, though

[bright cape]

i like not having to funnell bennett to her

sadly i still have to sometimes

[lyric cargo]

in theory I believe Ben should funnel her twice per rotation

at least for rational

[opal surge]

doesnt rational not have ER issues on xiangling anyway

[lyric cargo]

Rational: ERC
#📌gimshim-help message

Lemon:
assumes 2E per rotation on bennett, xiangling skill put to 0.5 to account for gouba being inconsistent at hitting sometimes, particle rng put to safe to account for raiden's E

also assumes favonius on xingqiu

if you get c6 xingqiu then change the bonus non particle energy in his section from 20 to 32 (since his c6 provides roughly 12 bonus non particle energy)

raiden provides 20-25ish which is why right now he has 20 bonus non particle energy in his section

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073722731939504218/1131965056448475276/image.png?ex=672ed15c&is=672d7fdc&hm=b88413d2fc3014c9e9ba6324d663bad01dba083f48675e9f7f60e7fe6386024f&

I still find higher ER more comfortable though. Sometimes enemies mess up your rotation, or you finish a chamber without getting bursts back

[lyric cargo]

Furina had to go on higher ER than usual as well:

195 → 216

[bright cape]

can you show one where bennett doesn't funnel?

feels like i am overkilling on everyone's ER

still it's not fun to swap artifacts

[lyric cargo]

hmm, you can copy the settings from lemon's screenshot and set skill uses per rotation to 1

[opal surge]

can never have enough er for xiangling

[lyric cargo]

you'd still want to rotate Ben Q E → Xl Q E though, I believe. it's realatively easy to funnel once

[opal surge]

actually candace skkills twice

truly one of the characters of all time

[bright cape]

ok. what does 0.5 skill on xiangling mean?

[opal surge]

it means 2/4 hits from guoba connect

[lyric cargo]

I believe lemon wrote it's for Guoba inconsistent hitting

there's some convo after the messages here as well:
#📌gimshim-help message

[lyric cargo]

I wonder if Xilonen Furina Xianyun Mavuika will be a thing

[opal surge]

assuming mavuika has pyro infuse herself?

but i mean i doubt its xilonen that seems wrong

[lyric cargo]

mhmm

[opal surge]

she cant pyro crystallize

[lyric cargo]

otherwise she'd need c6 bennett

[lyric cargo]

I assume as an archon she'll have off-field app, but that would also mess with vaping her plunges

so yeah, can't have it both ways. Either swirl and crystallize are hard, or vaping is

[opal surge]

her offfield app would need to be twice as strong as furinas right

[lyric cargo]

mhmm

[opal surge]

since she would need to clear hydro aura and then app pyro

to get pyro crystal

[lyric cargo]

if it's short duration she could enable crystallize + swirl, then wear off to let her vape plunges 🤔

but Furina's off-field app would need time to establish hydro aura as well

[opal surge]

only for bennet to probably be better anyways

i mean yeah first rotation is easy ofc but furina hydro app will not stop

between rotations

[lyric cargo]

I find most Xianyun swirl setups for vape complicated, tbh

maybe I should look more at what rotations people are using for Diluc and Ga Ming

[forest venture]

uhm uhm should i pull hu tao or neuvilette?

[vale sequoia]

Who in the banners

[jolly junco]

it's chasca + lyney (+ ororon) 1st half and zhongli + neuvillette 2nd half

[vale sequoia]

Dam I only got 30 wishes for neuvillete I think I’m cooked

[jolly junco]

considering there's new map areas

[opal surge]

U should get 70 next patch